Paranormal Spectrum #73 Ohio Paranormal Encounters with Guest Timothy Gayheart

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Timothy Gayheart is the founder of the Ohio Bigfoot Researchers. His team has done a lot of researching at the Salt Fork State Park.

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Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the Paranormal Spectrum. I
am your host, Barnaby Jones from Cryptid's Anomalies and the
Paranormal Society, and we are live today here on the
Untold Radio Network. That's right, guys, we are live in
the studio. Lee Warner, welcome to the show. Thank you
for joining us, and you are right. It is a

(03:22):
very sad week again for our community, for the bigfoot community.
This week we mourn the loss of Scott Violet from
Squatch America. He is a former multi time guest on
my other show and he recently passed away this week.
So very sad news in the community this week as well.
As you know, this has been a rough year. A

(03:44):
lot of good researchers heading down, So don't want to
start off the show on a bad note. But yeah,
there you go. All right, guys. Well, we got some
events coming up this weekend, the Van Meter Visitor Festival Saturday,
September twenty seventh, the Veterans Reception Center, Van Meter, Illinois.
We are gonna be down there. I'm gonna be doing

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a presentation on dog man encounters throughout history. Gonna be
a great time. The One and Only Chad Lewis is
gonna be down there leading the tours of the city
where all the Van Meter visitors sightings happened over a
I believe it was a six day period in town
where they saw this flying reptilian dinosaur creature with a

(04:27):
white beam of light on top of its head. Very
weird encounter. So if you guys are anywhere in Van Meter, Iowa,
come out and check that out. We will be down
there on Saturday, and then guys coming up this October.
We are happy to announce that we have paranormal investigations.
Come on out and investigate with the Caps team at
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It is over one hundred years of haunted history. The
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building was featured on the television series My Haunted Hometown
and has had the gambit of paranormal activity. Everything from

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You can get public investigations or get yourself a private
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things more spooky. I am going to be at the

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Channel County Library here in Wisconsin on October sixteenth, the
Brownsville Public Library on October twenty second, and the Nina
Public Library on October twenty fifth. All these presentations are
going to be exploring the paranormal, so we're going to
give you a good background on everything from how to
use the equipment, what to look for, how to do

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an investigation, everything to get you started. And then guys,
we are going to be doing public investigation of the
libraries following that presentation. So if you guys want to
come out on a free investigation with us in Shao,
Brownsville or Nina, we are going to be investigating the
libraries as well. I know for a fact that the

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Brownsville Library and the Shadow Library have reported paranormal activity already,
so it's going to be a great time if you're interested.
Coming up next year, we are going to be at
the Contact Modalities Expo May first, second, and third in Delavan, Wisconsin,
and Fonolac Wisconsin, May eighth through the ninth forour Capcom Wisconsin.

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With that being said, guys, it is awesome. We have
a great guest here. Let's get to that alright, guys.

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I love guests that are able to transfer between the
two shows. If you guys are a fan of Monsters
on the Edge on Mondays as well my other show.
Timothy Gayheart has already been on that show talking about
all of his research and experience with a bigfoot in Ohio.
He is the founder of the Ohio Bigfoot Researchers, and

(07:19):
he joins us again now because he has a lot
of other paranormal and weird encounters to share. So ladies
and gentlemen, please welcome to the show. Tim Gayheart. Tim
welcome back.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, thank you Varnabus for having me back home.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
It's my pleasure man. I've been looking forward to hearing
some of your other stories. Your bigfoot interview on the
other show is absolutely amazing. Some of the stuff that
you've encountered and seen in the bigfoot realm and researched already,
and you've only been doing this for a short time,
like officially bigfooting, so it's really cool. That you've had
all these experiences and sightings and pictures and stuff already.

(07:57):
So I highly recommend if anybody has missed that interview
to go check it out because we're gonna we're gonna
head down some spookier roads today.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Right, Yeah, we got a lot of things that's happened
since I've been a child till nowaday till day.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Awesome, awesome, Well, let us let us get started here.
We are live, guys, So if you guys have any
questions or comments as we go through the show, throw
them in the comments and we will get them in here.
But Tim, tell us how where where did all this start?
You said that you've you know, on the last episode
you talked about being out in the woods, you know,
growing up and stuff and having encounters with things, hearing things,

(08:37):
seeing things that you couldn't explain that weren't even bigfoot.
So tell us, tell us where we're going to start today.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, I was born to Ohio, but we moved to
eastern part of Kentucky when I was probably three and
a half, almost four years out. So yeah, I was
raised in the hill in the woods, learned how to hunt,
live off the land. I was taught to the old

(09:06):
ways and stuff, and yeah, I've had some weird experiences.
All I had dreams even before I even knew what
a bigfoot was. I never h the TV. When you're
in eastern part of Kentucky. You usually only if get
one K one channel from an antenna outside, and you

(09:28):
didn't get very much information for anything like cryptids or
anything like this. You're talking early seventies and stuff, so
it wasn't very popular at all back then. So I've
never even seen a picture of a big foot. And
tie was probably in the eighth grade, which would have
been eighty one, eighty or eighty one, and one of

(09:51):
my friends at school brought in a book. It was
called Myths Legends, and it was was TV about TV
shows and vampires, werewolves and mummies, uh, black creature from
Black Dragoon, Bigfoot all that in it. And that was
my first introduction to such thing as a seeing a
bigfoot picture.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
So that's that's really fascinating. Like, so you had dreams
of bigfoot, correct, Like Bigfoot was chasing you?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, and uh in them in them dreams it was
from in the hills by where we lived, is where
I had them, and the dreams chasing me. And uh,
the weirdest thing is though, when I go to get
away from them, I'd start flying. It was it was
just some of the craziest drinks diverse. I mean, I

(10:45):
had vivid dreams ever since I've been a kid.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Huh. That's that's fascinating. You know that you you've never
even seen a picture of one or heard of these things,
and you're having dreams about them. They goes back to
the whole like past life or dress and some of
that stuff where people believe that, you know, when you're
really young, before the world kind of you know, narrows
your perspectives and stuff that you you know about all
this stuff prior to that. Do you have you had

(11:11):
any like past life regression or any kind of thing
like that that you know, were you a big Foot
investigator in a past life.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I have no idea. I don't remember any of that.
But I've always had the feeling that that I ain't
part of this world. I don't know why that is that,
but that I've like, I got feelings like that that
I volunteered to come back to this world. And it's

(11:40):
crazy stuff. I Mean, when I first started realizing this.
I'm like, what is this these thoughts that I'm getting
that I volunteered to be here for some reason that
I have no clue of what it is or anything.
And then i've seen it here lately, stuff that on

(12:02):
some podcasts and stuff that say, yeah, we volunteer to
come back to this place. I have no clue, but
I've had that feeling for many many many years. That
and like when I was growing up and they was
trying to teach that evolution craph I didn't that didn't
that didn't fly in my book, No such thing. Then

(12:24):
even when I first started going to church when I
was a young kid, and the pastors and stuff was
talking about the calendar and this and that, and and
then it didn't sit right with me. Then like when
I got older and stuff, it come back to me
and I started searching, and here the Catholic Church, Roman

(12:47):
Catholic Church and all them they changed the calendar and
all this and that, and I'm like, well, what what
stuff is really true? What stuff can you believe that
you've been taught?

Speaker 5 (13:00):
That's that's amazing, that's absolutely true. You know. I've had
multiple guests on here of the metaphysical and stuff, talk
about when you pass away, your soul needs to learn
some certain life lessons and you agree to these soul
contracts when you when you're in the other side and
you come back to to specifically learn a lesson or

(13:22):
specifically teach someone a lesson or you know, have that
specific life and you've agreed to this before you come back.
And that's sounds exactly like kind of where you are,
and you know you know where you're at with that.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So it's this it can mess with your mind. I mean,
you're you're taught one thing, and you're taught all your
life these things, and then your mind's telling you know,
this is this is not this is not what it is.
This is totally different. But I've had, like I said,

(13:58):
vivid Vivid dream server. So so I was back three
or four years old wherever I can remember. It was
like most people when I was younger. Now I'm getting older,
my memories is not as good as they used to be.
But when I was younger, people would say, because I
tell them about my childhood and stuff, and I can
remember back when I was two years old, and they're like,

(14:22):
that's not realistic for people to remember back when they're
that young, and I'm like, well, it seems like in
my mind when I do something in life, it just
seems like it's a movie plan. I'm not, it's not real.
I mean it's I've like as my childhood and stuff,

(14:44):
as was growing up, every day was like, well, this
is a movie. This is it feels like you're in
a movie and you're just you're watching it and then
some crazy stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
That's interesting. I've had moments like that. I can't say
like my whole life, but I've had moments where you're
you're kind of like seeing it just kind of happen
around you and and and experiencing it. Yeah, that's weird.
Huh weird. Yeah, you know, the more you dig into
this stuff, you know, like it's it's unbelievable the stuff

(15:21):
that that you know. But so many people, unrelated, unconnected,
that haven't listened to, you know, the metaphysical stories and
all that stuff, and they have these same stories. And
if this was all, you know, just a story that
somebody made up that people are following, now, there's no
way that so many people could have the same experiences,

(15:43):
the same thoughts, the same feelings and not know anything
about this, So it's it's it really makes you stop
and think and really, you know, kind of I'm amazing.
I don't. I don't know how else to put it.
It's just weird world.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, it's weird. I said, just to mess with your
mine too, was because you're you're always like, did I
do this? Is this really what I did? Is this real?
Or is this over here? Is something that it's hard
to explain how it works. And that's like I said,

(16:19):
I can remember back when I was two years old
because I was born in sixty six, and I can
remember living in places and being my aunts and uncles
and stuff when I was probably two, and the I
can still in memory right now. I can tell you

(16:43):
when we lived in a home out in the country
in nineteen sixty nine, so I was only three. I
tell you I lived in Indiana before that, in two
different places in sixty eight. I can tell you that.
And it's just.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Let me ask you this, do you do you Have
you experienced a lot of deja vu throughout your life?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Uh? A few times? I mean it's like did I
dream that and now it's coming true? Or or did
I do this before? And and it's like, well, I've
seen this person before and I know it. I hadn't
seen him before, and like it's been in this place
and seen this person, and I'm like, well, I've seen

(17:32):
this person before and never met him in my life,
like or be somewhere's in like didn't I just do
this the other day?

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting, like because if you're you know,
like you said, like the feeling of watching it as
a movie, I'm wondering if you got the sense like
of deja vu lake as you're watching it, have seen
it before, having experienced this exactly scene the story or whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, I talked to psychic online one time. It was
on a podcast, and she said, I was one of
my previous lives. I was in the wild West in
the eighteen hundreds and something that I was the town
drunk and I ended up getting killed in eighteen and

(18:30):
one hundred and something. And I didn't know whether to
believe or not. But well, I was raised my family
background that there was alcoholism. Yeah, I was. I drunk
quite a bit when I was in my late teens
early twenties. Yeah, then I broke broke away from that

(18:53):
and I stopped at but yeah, there was in my
family history of the family that, yeah, there was alcoholism
and stuff. So I if I was that was what
I was supposed to come here to do to break
the chain of alcoholism in the family or what I did.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Interesting, So now we're talking about for the show you
go on here to eventually like train to be a pastor,
and was that like how did that affect this because
like a lot of the people that have had similar
stories growing up like that where you're still able to
remember possibly some of your past life or anything like

(19:37):
this weird stuff. Were you raised in a religious home
or what was what was that like, what did that
lead to becoming a pastor?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
No, I was raised in a home my mother she
was a Christian, her family was Christian people. But my
dad's and dad's side of the family, no, they were
Like I said, there was alcoholism and stuff in the
family tree then, but uh, yeah, I started going to
church when I was young with my mom and uh

(20:11):
but when I become started to become a I got
baptized and stuff when I was like thirteen or fourteen
years old. But I attended church a lot when I
was younger and then in mid so it would have
been mid thirties. Well, I got married in my mid twenties,

(20:32):
and then we started going to church and stuff in
my mid thirties, and I got rebaptized and stuff. Then
I felt like I was called to be a pastor,
and which I don't. I didn't teach the doctrine that
most of them teached nowadays, because a lot of that

(20:54):
is not truth. Because I started researching, and I found
out that the Bibles and stuff that they use nowadays
been re've written twenty sometimes and all this and that.
And I started researching ancient biblical texts and all that
and found out that they've removed There was three or

(21:17):
four hundred books and they only come down to like
eighty some. Then they ended up removing twenty nineteen or
twenty books. Then they come down with the books of
sixty six pro of the Bible. And there's a lot
of stuff that they teach in doctrine that's man made.

(21:38):
It's not even biblical. And so I went from being
my mom and then was raised Pentecostal and Baptists, and
I ended up being non denominational. I don't do it
due to doctrines. I seek for the truth, the real truth,

(22:03):
and when I started preaching and stuff, there was incidents
of one night and there was an evil entity that come.
I was living in Plymouth at the time, and it
woke me up. I was alva sound sleep. It was
on a Saturday, what way it would have been Sunday morning,

(22:24):
been around three o'clock, around three three thirty in that
area of time. This evil entity come. It was on
the outside of my house and it woke me up.
And I mean I was the hair and everything was
standing up. I was scared. I was shaking, and I
didn't know what was going on. Then I heard it

(22:46):
walking on the outside of the bedroom wall, outside of
the bedroom, on the outside wall, and I hear this
growling garble wood kind of un recognizable noises that was
seemed like some kind of language and with a growl

(23:08):
and all this and that in it. And uh. Then
I ended up setting up in the bed and the
window is right at the head of my bed, the
wall and the bedrooms on the ground. It's a single
story house, so the windows right at about three foot

(23:29):
above ground level. And this shadow goes by the window
and it goes toward the front of the house, and uh,
and I'm I'm really shaken. I'm trembling, and then not
knowing what's going on. I mean, I went from a
dead sleep to that woke up and instantly it's everything

(23:49):
in your body's shaken and vibrating, your scared, and I'm like,
what's going on? And like I said, I heard this
gurgle and growling stuff out behind the by side the
window and stuff. Then it comes around the front of
the house. We had a small porch and uh, we

(24:13):
had a banner of Jesus with his lambs on the
on the front porch hanging and uh, he got there,
and then it really started really growling and carrying on
and making some kind of language. I don't know if
it was ancient Greek or what it was, but it
was some kind of language. And then I started praying,

(24:36):
and then uh, I called for archangel Michael to come
and defend me. And then all once it was just
like a big bright light outside and I mean it
was coming through the windows in the in the house
and everything lit the whole entire inside of the house
up the whole outside of it. I mean, just like
you stepped out right in the middle of the sun,

(24:56):
right in the middle of the sun. Then once it
was just and gone, and then I got peaceful and calm,
and I'm like, well, that's over with And so I
go back to sleep. Get up, Get get up about
seven o'clock because we're going to church. Get up and

(25:16):
get around, get my coffee, get dressed and everything, and
we're going out to get into the truck. At the time,
we had a truck to go to church that morning,
Sunday services. And I get in the truck. My wife
she gets in the driver's side of the truck and
she looks and she looks back at me. She said,

(25:37):
what is all that blood? And from there the sidewalk,
then there's a porch and there was a flower bed
between the sidewalk and the porch. And said, what's all
that blood into my flower bed? What did you kill
and skin there? I said, I didn't kill nothing. Hunting
seasons been out for three months. I ain't killed nothing.
This is early spring. She said there's blood there, and

(25:58):
I said that shouldn't be no way there should be
blood there. And uh, she said. She gets out of
the truck. Come out here. I'll show you. We walked
over there, she says, right there, and it was a
puddle of look like blood liquid and she stuck her
finger in and she said, see that that's blood. But
I never told her what went on that night, and

(26:18):
so we ended up. I'm like, I ain't skin nothing
out from the house. It's some season's been over with
like three months. And I'm like, and I didn't say nothing.
We go on to church. We get to church, go
up and get in our pew where we set all
the time. And uh, this pastor friend of mine, he

(26:41):
usually come in about five minutes before church start. He
comes in. He comes around shaking everybody's hand. He comes
up to me and he goes shake my hand. He said,
he said, you had a battle last night, didn't you?
And you won, didn't you. I'm like, I'm looking at him,
I'm like, well, how you know this? I ain't told
I ain't told nobody. He said, yeah, you had a

(27:01):
battle last night. It showed up at your house and
I'm like, yeah, he did. I said they left too,
and he said yeah, and that was that was fir
as it went. And when wife's looking at me and
she goes, what is he talking about? I said, I'll
tell you after church and stuff. What went on? Wow,

(27:23):
it's crazy things.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Wow, there's so much there done back. So why do
you think that, you know, like we always hear like
Lee's over here said the Witching hour, Lord of you know,
the three three am as far as like the religious stuff,
and that goes, why is why is that such the
norm time?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Well they say that Jesus was crucified around three o'clock
in the day, so the devil has his three o'clock
for his reign at three am, So he's mirroring the crucifixion,
and that the power of the crucifixion, and now he's

(28:09):
releasing his power at three a m. In the dark.
The evil does not like the lights, so they that's
just that's the reason it's three a m.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Fair enough, all right, Well, that's that's really interesting. Like
I was waiting for you to come back to the
Jesus and Lamb banner, and that's where I thought this
was going to go. Is that the that was all
torn up or missing or something.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And no, it was right there were right in front
of the blood. The cool blood was right in front
of that banner, on the edge of the twin the
sidewalk and the concrete sidewalk in the concrete porch in
the flower bed right in front of the banner.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Wow, So what what do you take that as. Do
you think do you think it was like just a
big foot out there or do you think it was
I mean just just you know, ran a bigfoot out
there eating something, or you know, do you think it
was demonic? Do you think what do you think it was?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
It was the money? Because it was, I mean it totally.
I'm not a scary person, and now I was shaken.
Then I was scared bad. I didn't have no idea
what it was because I've never seen all. Like I said,
all seen was a big dark shadow go by the window,
bedroom window. Now we're this house is right in the

(29:31):
middle of houses. I mean we're on in a city
with street chair streets and alleys here and houses all around.
I mean we're well, it's probably three to five hundred
yards to the river. But we was in the city

(29:52):
limits and the city limits went right to the river.
And I mean we was in a populated area. There's
only trees. You are on the edge of the streets,
that's only trees there is. It's it's a what you
call a neighborhood. There was this and there wasn't no

(30:12):
woods until like two three hundred yards away on the
past the other streets. But I can't it had it
was demonic whatever it was, the only thing I could
figure out it was a demon trying to come and
stop me from preaching or what it was doing. I

(30:32):
don't know. That's what I got. And then my friend
was a pastor, and when he come up and told
me that, and I'm like, well, how did he know?
But he he knew my name before I ever met
the man because one one's church service, we was sitting

(30:53):
there in the church before church started. Him and his
wife come in. I'd never seen these people, never knew
who were or anything. And they come around and we
introduced and shaking hands and everything for services. Well after services,
we was going out to get in the vehicle to
leave after church and stuff, and he comes out hollering

(31:15):
at me as I'm walking towards my truck. And he
comes up and he said, brother, I wanted to say
hi and think and talk to was glad to meet
you and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, I'm glad to
meet you and stuff and this, and we was shaking
hands and he was hugging me. He said, oh, oh,
God told me to do something for me, and he

(31:36):
was shaking my hand. He put a piece of paper
in my hand and me, I'm not the type of
person I ain't going to look right at something when
you give it to me. Because so I stuck it
in my shirt pocket and we said her goodbyes and stuff,
and he said, well, i'll see you next Sunday. If
I don't see you before, I said okay, I said,

(32:00):
living plemouth toy my addresses of us to stop by.
We'll have coffee or whatever. And so I get in
the truck and we're getting ready to pull out the
parking lot, and I said, what did he give you?
What did you put in your shirt pocket? And I
reached to my shirt pocket and I said, I don't know.
He give me a piece of paper. I rested my
shirt pocket and opened it up, and here's a seventy

(32:20):
five dollars check wrote out in my name to me.
And I'm like, well, at the time, I needed seventy
dollars to pay my electric bill because it was due
and I didn't have the money at the time. But
I had told him. We hadn't told nobody about it,
and we had to figure out how some way to
come up with it if I don't want junking or

(32:41):
something and made the money, and she goes, well, I
guess we can pay the electric bill. God send us
the money to pay libery. And I never met this
man in my entire life. This was the first time
I ever seen him. And I'm like, well, how did
he know my name? Name spelled on it right and everything?

(33:01):
And she said I handed her to her and shoulder,
and she goes, well, evidently it had to be from God.
I'm like, how did he know my name? But we've
become real good friends and stuff. And he was a
pastor and me and him started trying uh uh church
and stuff, and then he ended up getting sick and

(33:23):
passing away. Then we just closed the church because didn't
have the finances to run it.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
I'm sorry to hear that. That's that's really cool. You know,
We've we've had a couple of like really interesting like
angel stories and stuff on here, and it kind of
sounds like like that was one of it. You know,
like this guy kind of you know, knew what you
needed and was there on a mission. And that's that's
really cool that you got to, you know, be friends

(33:56):
with them and stuff after that and keep that relationship going.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
He was a very talented person, really smart. He knew
he had Bibles and studied in different languages and everything.
I mean he had old Bibles from way back into
sixteen hundreds and something. He has had original Bibles and stuff.
And he was a well versed person in religion.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Very cool, Very cool. Wow, So you've had you had
mentioned that you had some other encounters with things while
you were training to be a pastor and stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well this was before that. I've had encounters with I
had friends that hung around. They was older, a couple
of stuff that they lived at a little town just
a couple of miles down the road from where I lived,
and stuff. I hung out with some of their other
their kids that was my age and stuff and go
down there and stay with them. And they had a

(35:01):
haunted They claimed their house was haunted and the woman
called him George, and it was haunted. I come to
find out it was honted because they it was in
the winter one time, and they come and got me

(35:22):
to come and stay all night with them, sit around,
talk and stuff. We used to go out in the
country driving around looking and she's told me about when
she was a girl she had and encounters that seeing
bigfoot when she was a girl and stuff. And at
the time I was hanging around them, I wasn't into

(35:42):
hunting looking for bigfoot or anything. I was only nineteen, No,
I've been like twenty twenty one, and I wasn't out
looking for no bigfoot or anything like that. And she
was telling these stories of when she was a child
and stuff about where they lived out in the country
out it was out next to the area where I
haunted and where I've had sidings and where they took

(36:05):
my deer and in the same area. And this was
back in the fifties when it was happening to them,
So that was a being before the Patterson Giblin film
or anything. And so I think it was fifty six,
fifty seven and stuff. When she was I think she
said she was eleven, twelve year old and stuff when
they seen him. I seen it out there. And so

(36:26):
I was staying at their house and it was winter
time because the roads got bad and they couldn't take
me back to where I lived out in the country
to my mom and dad's and so I stayed all
night and they let me sleep, told me made up
bed on the living room in the on the couch
in the living room. And their house was an old, big,

(36:47):
old two story house and it was on the right
of way that back in the trade days they had
the underground railroads and places in Ohio, well that little
town there, underground railroad tunnels there and went by their
house underneath, just off to the outside of their house

(37:08):
underneath because they was opening on the others. Uh, they
climbed out in the one cemetery outside of town that
there was a headstone you could move, and that's where
one of the they'd come up out of one of
the tunnels. And like I said, I was. They made

(37:28):
me a bed on the couch, and they had the
house in that warm, so they had an electric heater
setting right in front of me, about four foot in
front of the couch so that I would not get
really cold. And they'd went to bed, and I laid
down on the couch, covered up. It was gonna go
to sleep. And it's probably eleven thirty, twelve o'clock at night.

(37:51):
We set up drunk coffee and talked and visited and
it's getting the probably around one one thirty. I just
started to doze off in this strange house, so it
took me a little longer to go sleep. And just
as I started to doze off, I felt something grabbed

(38:11):
me and I'm like, I went like that and there's
nothing above me. And I'm sleeping with my arms like
it's up on my chest underneath the blanket and I'm
trying to move and I can't move. It's a holding me.
It's squeezing me. And I'm looking and I'm seeing. I've
seeing the whole room. I see this heater and everything's

(38:34):
going I see the in the kitchen they have the
light on, the stove was on and all that. I mean,
it wasn't completely dark. And I'm looking and't I can't move.
I can't. I'm trying to get up, I'm trying to turn.
I can't do nothing, and it's just keeps squeezing me
and squeezing me tight around. I'm like, what's going on?

(38:55):
And I'm like, is that that is the goat was
trying to hold me down? Or what is what is
going on here? I mean, there's nothing above me, but
I can't move, So I said, uh, you need to quit,
let go of me, and then it just it was gone,
and I'm like, it's crazy now. And then I got

(39:20):
up and I went in the kitchen and I sat
in the kitchen at the kitchen table because their bedroom
was off to the side, but they had a door
and stuff. And I said at the kitchen table. The
rest night, I didn't go back in there and go
back to bed. It was I didn't want to deal
with it no more. And I got up and told
The next morning, they got up and I told him

(39:41):
about it and said, oh, that was just George. He's
just playing with you. And I'm like, I don't like it.
I don't want to deal with that either. And then
they've had me come stay all night before, but they
put me in another room. They said, well, he won't
go in there, and I stayed in the other room
and that he never would come in her. But it's

(40:02):
just crazy m hm.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
So you never saw anything, just just felt it.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Just felt something holding me down, squeezing me like you
bear hugging somebody's And then I couldn't move, I couldn't
get up, I couldn't twist, I couldn't I couldn't do
nothing interesting.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Had they had they had a similar encounter in that room.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Uh, they had their son in law. They did it,
did it to him a couple of times, and one
time it put a pillar over his head, trying to
suffocate him. He didn't like you.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
At least George was nicer to you. He just wanted
to give you a hug, you know, smother.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah. Yeah, they we've been sitting there. And then upstairs
they had you know, the old fashioned radios, the big
long ones with the TV and all that, and it's
the big cabinet. You could hear it slide across the
floor and you'd hear it open the top where the
radio and stuff was, and you'd hear the radio turn on.

(41:00):
You'd her changed the channels and then then and then
it get to a certain station and that's it. And
she'd holler, ay, George, turn that off, quick, burning my
electric and he'd turn it off and you'd hear it slide.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
It's crazy, that's awesome, that's awesome. So he's got to
be a more modern ghost. At least if he knew
how to use the radio and and turn on the
TV and stuff, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, well they they said that he would have been
uh look the clothing that she said, he's seen, she's
seen that. He had like a top hat and uh,
like big dress coat and stuff. He was like in
the twenties or something like that, twenties or thirties. The

(41:45):
way they dressed then.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Very interesting, very stylish gentleman.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Then, yeah, hmm.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Interesting. That's that's a lot lot of energy though, to
be able to move objects and turn on things and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
So, yeah, another place we lived at, and this was
when my daughter was about five, Yeah, I shoot, about
five year old. We lived in a place in the
town we lived in for years and years, and it
was a two story house, but it was right beside

(42:27):
the funeral home, and there was there was it was
the attic was big enough to be bedrooms and stuff.
And when I went up there one time in it
and there was newspapers that was stacked up in a
triangle shaped and they was from the forties and fifties.

(42:50):
I knew it. After I got them and took them
downstairs and was looking at them and stuff, and my
wife told me, he said, now you better put them
back up over where they've belong because they've been there
that long. And they was I mean they was not
wrinkled or nothing. They rode up and all that. She said,
you better take them back up there and put them
back up there. And when you get done looking at them,

(43:14):
I mean, you could buy a pair of red winged
shoes for twelve bucks back then, and you could buy
what is a Western flyer bicycle for like eighteen dollars
back then. And it was neat looking at that stuff.
And so I didn't take them back up. I put
them up in the cabinet. I'm like, these are old man,

(43:35):
I don't want to take care of these, and I
put them up in a cabinet that should't have done well.
The next two or three nights, I'd get up to
go to the restroom middle of the night and the
bathroom light would be on. I'm like, okay, maybe maybe
my daughter got up the middle of the night and
go to the bathroom left to light on. I turn

(43:57):
it off. You had to come through the living room.
Then you come across the hallway into our bedroom, and
the kitchen was down the hallway and her bedroom was
down the hallway, and I look in the kitchen light
with beyond. So I went down there and turned the
kitchen light off, come back, got in bed. Now, this
happened for a couple of nights, and I didn't say nothing.

(44:18):
And my daughter she would talk to somebody in her
room and I'm like, who went in there? One day
she was just talking away to him and I'm like,
who are you talking to? She said, Jessica. I'm like,
who's Jessica? Is that your make believe for a friend?
Because she's only that five year old? No, she's real.

(44:38):
She's right over there ain't nothing there. I so, who
is Jessica? Then she said, what's the little girl? This
house burnt her and her family die well. When I
was upstairs in the attic looking through the round and stuff,
and when I found them newspaper stuff, I've seen the
wood in the top of the on the ceiling in
the attic, under the roof, and stuff was charred smoked,

(45:02):
so there had been a fire. But yeah, like for
three nights in a row after I brought them newspapers down,
there was something kept turning the lights on them and
leaving them on. And then I had my daughter go
out there. One morning. I took her in the bathroom.
I said, reach and see if you can turn that
light on. She said, Daddy, I can't turn that light on.

(45:23):
So she read and she was about four or five
inches too short. I took her in the kitchen the
same thing, and she liked four or five inches too short.
And I'm like okay, And my wife said, what's going on?
I said, well, I'll get up. The last two or
three nights, the lights have been on in the bathroom.
Then I turned it off, and I come to the
kitchen to the bedroom, and on the way to the

(45:44):
bedroom the kitchen lights on. I turned it off. She said,
did you put them newspapers back when you got them
from I said no. She said, take them newspapers back
up here and put them where you got them and
leave them alone. And I did quit that, but she
always kept talking to that little girl called Jessica. HM.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
So your your wife obviously believe in all that stuff too.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Oh yeah, she she knows that. Uh there's ghosts of
stuff that they lived in houses when they was younger
that had things spirits and them or her grandma, her
grand not her grandma had been her great grandma. Now
she was more we call person that could use her

(46:35):
mind to manipulate stuff. Yeah, she could. When my wife
was young girl, and I would stay with her and
stuff at night and stuff, and they get bad and
she'd tell them to shut up and go to bed,
because she'd kept the great grandkids daughters, and she'd they'd

(46:58):
be making too much rack and at bedtime and she's
telling you go to bed, or on the booger man's
come to get you. And now they start laughing and stuff.
And she sit there in the living room coffee table,
raised up and slammed back down on the floor and
now already the bedroom. And she did it several times
in front of them kids. She could levitate things. Wow,

(47:25):
that's that's that's sees how she learned how there's different
things in this world that's beyond most people's minds.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
That's that's that's hilarious, Like the whole fact of you know,
like somebody learns, you know, tele can eeless to move objects.
What do you do with your powers?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Do you?

Speaker 5 (47:46):
You know? You know whatever? And no, I use it
to make the kids go to bed.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
But she was her background and stuff was uh Indian
and other things. So I met her when we got
married and stuff, and she's over her Nice still my wife,
and her name is Nice. She looked at him, said
that you got a good man. And the first time

(48:13):
I ever met he met her and she says, you
better take care of him and not be mean to him,
because you're not gonna get no man better than he is.
And I'm like, well, she don't even know me. And
we've been married for thirty three years going on thirty four.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Awesome. Lee Warner would like to know, going back to
the last story there with the other house and the
fire in Jessica, were you ever able to research the
house and the fire? Was there actually a girl named Jessica?
Did you ever get back to that?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Uh? No, I never researched it because this little town
it was in, they wouldn't have kept records of it
and stuff. It's just a little hicked down population maybe
three four hundred people. I mean, they had a library
and a store and a gas station, a few little
things of that. But to keep historical records of all

(49:14):
that and for that area, I doubt it. And but
but the crazy thing was we moved from there to
a trailer which was just a couple of three or
four streets away. And when we was moving in there
and we got in the closet hanging up with my

(49:34):
daughter's stuff, and there's this picture looked like it was
from the seventies, or it had to be from the
seventies of this little young, blonde headed girl. And he
turned it over. On the back it said Jessica.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
What.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Well, hopefully she didn't follow us here, but it was crazy.
It was a little picture of a little blond headed girl,
like a little school picture like that had to be
in the seventies. The girl looked like she was about
ten or ten years old at the oldest. And turned
it over and it said Jessica right on the back
of it. And we asked her daughter, where'd that picture

(50:13):
come from? She said, I don't know. I've never seen
that picture before, and it was in her stuff, and.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
I'm like, gave her a little picture to remember her by.
Did she say that I liked the girl?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she said, that's Jessica. I'm was that
what she looks like? Huh, he goes, yeah, that's that's
what she looks like. And I'm like, where did the
picture come? She said, I don't have no, no, she
didn't know where to come from. Well then she was
only like going on six, says when she first started

(50:49):
kindergarten when we moved to the trailer. But it's something
like I said, it's busier stuff.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Sounds like it. Wow, So yeah, I wonder, I don't know,
you know, we we already talked about, you know, like
how kids are more open and stuff when they're younger.
In that, I wonder if maybe she saw the picture
first and that's where she got it, or did it
manifest the picture? And did she ever talk to Jessica

(51:24):
after that when you guys had moved.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Uh the first I no, first I remember, No, she
never after we moved to the trailer and stuff. And
I asked her a couple of times after that, like
a couple of weeks, three weeks after we moved here
and stuff, I said, did your friend Jessica come with
you know? And she goes, no, she stayed stayed at
the house, and uh, never heard of talking to nobody

(51:51):
after that no more either.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
That's weird. Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Hmmm.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
So let's see what else have we got that we
got to recover here. You you talked about seeing some
lights and orbs and shadow figures out in the woods
as well.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, that was the lights and orbs was when we
was doing Bigfoot researching. But before that, I mean, I've
had encounters out in the woods that I didn't know
what it was like. In the hills of Kentucky when
I was probably ten years old, I'd been down to
my friend's house playing and it got dark and I

(52:35):
had to go up the holler by myself because I
was down there at their house playing. And in the
hollers Kentucky, there's no lights. I mean, it's completely when
you when you get away from somebody's house that's got
a pole light, it's pitch black, and that's coming up
to holler and I hear this like a woman screaming

(52:56):
up on the hill. There was an old cemetery up
on the hill. I had like three or four graves,
and then there was a patch of pine trees that
was like there's only like a hundred and some feet
up the hill from the road, and I hear this
like a woman screaming. I mean it's loud. Every hair

(53:18):
on my body stood up. I come from to a
dead stop when it first started, and I'm looking up
her and this thing is screaming and screaming and screaming,
and I'm like, buddy, I was back then you run
around barefooted. I was patting them feed up that hill
that road to the house. I had almost half a

(53:38):
mile to run, and I ran uphill almost half a mile.
And there's like when I was sixteen, we moved Ohio
and we started hunting and stuff up here, coon hunting
and all kinds of different hunting. And one night we
was coon hunting and we was over in front of
the house where we lived, and there was probably one

(54:01):
hundred and fifty acres of woods over in front of
the house. But you had to cross two fields to
get to the woods. We had to cross the roads
in two fields get to the woods. And me and
two of my brothers was in there hunting one night,
and we had my dad, black and tan and a
redbone with us. And now black and tan dog. He

(54:24):
did not like strangers. He hated people that strange people.
He would absolutely bite you if he didn't know you.
And we're over here hunting in the woods, and we'd
only been gone from the house probably twenty minutes, and
made the first turn of loose with the dogs, and

(54:44):
they was gone for about fifteen minutes or so, Souse.
It took us probably almost five minutes or so to
walk to the woods and we're standing there waiting on
the dog's tree. Then all once we hear them coming back,
and then they run right between our legs and get
between the three of us for me and my older

(55:06):
brother and then brother younger than me, and we all
had coon hunt lights, and these dogs get between us,
and I'm like, what is going on? And none know
the black and Tan ain't afraid of no human being.
If it's a human being in the woods, they better
be watching out for him because he didn't like strangers.

(55:28):
And then he's sitting there with all the hair on
his back standing up in his tail between his legs,
and I'm like, something going on. Then we started hearing
something walking around us in the woods, bipedal, and I'm like, well,
we're sitting there and well, somebody's trying to prank us.
Somebody's strangers in the woods. For the reason he comes back,

(55:50):
I said, Oh, if it's somebody strange, he'd be tearing
them up. I said, whatever it is, he's not wanting
nothing to do with it. And this dog's probably seventy
eighty pound dog. I mean, he's not no little dog.
And we're taking our lights and we're shining. We're three
of us, three different directions, so we could cover all

(56:12):
three hundred and sixty degrees around us. And these lights
we're using now they use these are mining lights as
they're using the coal mines and stuff, and they will
shine forty or fifty feet easily in the darkest that
you can get it. And well, in timber, you're not

(56:33):
going to see much more than sixty or seventy feet
or one hundred feet at most. And we're shining and
we ain't seeing nothing, but we keep hearing this thing
walk around us outside of the light shine, and we're
trying to stand there trying to figure out was it
my dad? And what if it was my dad. We're saying, well,

(56:55):
if if it's my dad, Blackie Boy would have went
to you. We did just thought he was gone and said,
well it's not him. So and I know it's not
nobody strange that the dog don't know where he would
have been trying to buy him. And we're going to
wonder what is it? Like I said, we never thought

(57:18):
Bigfoot was real or anything in and so I said, well,
let's go back the dogs, Let's go toward the other
end of the woods, and we're starting that way, and
the dogs would not leave us, would not leave us,
and he said, well, me and my older brothers said, well,
we might as well go on back toward the house
and that the dogs ain't going to hunt. And so

(57:41):
we started out the woods and we get it going
across the field, and soon we got out in the field.
I said, let's turn our lights off and we'll see
if it's anybody, if the dogs are being stupid, or
if somebody's trying to scare us, or what I said.
Let's walk out in the middle of that field, away
from the woods with all our lights off, and see

(58:02):
what comes out to the outside edge of the woods,
if it's a person or watts and there making the
dogs act this way. So we get out about a
couple hundred yards out in the field, but we turned
our lights off soon as we got left, got out
in field where we didn't have to worry about tripping
over sticks. So we walked like two hundred and some

(58:23):
yards out in the field. We stand and turn around
and we all looking toward the woods, and there's probably
five hundred yards of five hundred feet or so woodline,
and we stood there and nothing never did come out.
You could hear it walk up to the edge of
the woods. Then you could hear it walk down the
woods so far and then turn around and walk back

(58:45):
and go that way so far, and then it turn
around and come back. It just kept pacing forth, back
and forth in the woods there would come out. So
we just got tired up and went onto the house
and put the dogs up and quit for the night.
But yeah, there's been some crazy stuff, you know, the
orbs and stuff. I seen the lights was out into

(59:05):
the area where I used to hunting stuff where I've
got pictures of bigfoot and stuff. Seeing orbs out there.
Had one night we was out to investigating. They was me,
my wife and another guy. Well the first time it
was just me and my wife and we was sitting
there and we could hear them walking around in the

(59:28):
woods over here and right in front of us. We
was only setting like fifteen feet from the woods, and
we could hear them walking back and forth and they
watching us and stuff and all. Once it was just
like somebody took a camera and a light, bright light
just flashed lit everything up all the way around us

(59:48):
and the woods everywhere, and I'm like, what the heck
was that? And I'm looking around and there's no houses
in a mile of that place. We're on a dirt
road and the nearest blacktop roads almost a mile away,
and no way it could have been headlights flashed, and
I'm like, what was that? And she said, I have

(01:00:10):
no idea. And then then we started hearing this metallic
electric motor hum and noise, and I'm like, what is that?
And it's coming from towards in the area, in the
woods in front of us, and I'm like, well, there's
three miles to the nearest town that way. There's one road,

(01:00:33):
probably two and a half miles that way, just a
country road, and there's only black four or five houses,
and there's no kind of machinery or anything that would
have been running at that time of night. There's no

(01:00:53):
machine shops or anything would be running a generator or
anything like that to make that noise. And she got
a little eerie feeling and she started getting sick, and
she said, we need to go. It's getting bad. It's
bad here for some reason, there's something bad here, and
so we get a vehicle when we leave. So it
was like a week or something later we went back

(01:01:17):
out there. This time one of her friends that lived
by us in the the apartment complex we lived in before,
he wants to go out with us, so he follows
us out there and we'll go to the same location.
And we're sitting there and it's probably quarter to ten,

(01:01:41):
somewhere around that time, nine thirty quarter to ten, and
it's completely dark, and Rende walked off to my left
a little bit on the gravel driveway there parking area.
She was looking back in the timbers, listening and stuff
back in the woods. And me and him was over
here house sitting by the car and he was standing
on my outside and it did it again, big bride

(01:02:03):
flash of light and he goes, he jumps and he goes,
what was that? And I'm like, he goes, It's like
somebody's headlights or a camera flash that lit everything up.
And I'm like, it did this the last time we
was over here. I said, I have no idea what
it is. And when it did it, Renee come walking in.

(01:02:24):
She said, well, there's it did again, so and he goes,
do you just know what what it is. I'm like, no,
I said, it happened the last time we was out here.
That did that, and he said, well, it's I'm leaving.
I'm going home, And so he gets in these veighic
of leaves and we decided to sit there a few
more minutes to see what happens. Well, here comes that

(01:02:46):
electric humming again, and I'm like, she started getting real
nervous or sick locking, and she says, it's time to go.
It's whatever that is is evil, it's it's not got
something that's not good. And so we got let left again.
But the orbs, we've seen them at Salt Fork a

(01:03:08):
couple of times. Then it was usually it's either right
after we have an encounter with a bigfoot down there,
or it's right before, and sometimes it's but they're just well.
Then I had orbs here in the house just right

(01:03:30):
before my brother passed away. They had something U slapped
inside the house. Then there look, I was in the
bedland and I woke up and there's this silverish gold,
what was a silverish white looking orb about this bigger
round right in front of my closet. And then then

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when I started to raise up, it went into the
closet and went and was gone out the outside wall.
The same wall that was just got slapped. That woke
me up, and then it was probably five minutes later
I was I got maybe five minutes. I got up,

(01:04:17):
started walking towards the closet, I mean toward the closet
to see what it was. And then there's this little
red one like a laser dot, comes out under my bed,
zips past me and goes right into the closet. Now
into the wall. Now what is that? What is going

(01:04:40):
on here? And I went over to into the closet
and I moved the cause we had clothes hanging there.
And I moved the clothes and there's nothing on the
wall or nothing. And I'm like, and my seeing things?
Is it playing things on my mind or what's going on?
And I have no clue about them? And but like

(01:05:00):
I said, we've seen them out in the woods too,
But they're they're different colors. Some of them are white,
some of them are reddish looking. Some of them got
a bluish tent to them. But it's some crazy stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
Do you want to know the one in your house
in the closet There was that about three thirty in
the morning as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
It probably would have been somewhere's around that because it's
usually I wake up around that time every night I
have to go to the restroom. So yeah, it was
somewhere's in that area around that time.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Interesting. So going back to the motor hum and the light,
would you you said it wasn't it wasn't a generator
or anything like that. Did it sound to you like
a phone vibrating?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
It was something that's similar to that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Yeah, obviously very loud, but the same thing. Yeah, kind
of sound. Yeah, that is so interesting. So let me
tell you this story. So we were up in Upper
Michigan on this private property investigating one night and there's
a it's a dead end road, so there's one house

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past where we're at and there's you know, I don't remember.
It was night, it was dark out, and we're hearing
this sound coming from the road area, but it's coming
from the dead end of the road, and it sounded
like a phone vibrating, and it would get louder and
louder and louder, and then it would kind of gradually pass,

(01:06:42):
like it went past, but it took forever to go past,
and then it would do it again from the same
spot and it would come and go past again. And
it did this several times. You know, it's like as
if it was like an ATV or something going down
the road. But there's no way it could have been.
Like I said, there's there's one house past the property

(01:07:05):
where we were at. They have a truck. That's a no.
No ATVs. They don't drive around like that. And it
wasn't like a motor. It was just this, Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Uh, well that's like when I was that the light
and stuff, the humming was going on. Well just just
say like you was sitting in a room no windows,
pitch black, dark, and it's just like the outside has
the door and just like somebody opened the door and

(01:07:41):
it's all light out there and just opened it and
then shut it back. Now that's what it looked like,
like something opened the big door that lit everything up.
Then it just it was that instant it was gone.
So I had no idea if it was some kind
of space after whatever is causing this and that homing.

(01:08:03):
But that's what that's what it looked like. Somebody just
opened the door, bright light behind it lit everything up.
Is when the door opened and then just shut rabbit
shot back. That's why it went twice. Now we was
down salt Fork one night on Devil's Knob. First night
I ever went to Devil's Knob and there was like

(01:08:27):
thirteen of us in a group. He was down there
for a camp out and something. Now, we went to
Devil's Knob for an immigat investigation and we had a
guy there had all kinds of audio equipment. He had
directional mix and everything hooked up to a soundboard and
recorders and everything. I mean, he's got this whole system

(01:08:47):
and he can hear for miles with this system. He's
got all this set up. We're all in this parking
area and then everybody starts weeding out, looking going down
the gravel road. As it's all gravel road area in there.
You're nowhere near houses. You're you're miles from houses because

(01:09:07):
you're right in the middle of the park. And they
were going down people's going down the gravel road. There's
a couple of hiking trails. People were going down there.
I stood around the parking area because my legs don't
work that good. And there's other couple of people and
the guy with the sound equipment was set up by
his vehicle. And we'd been there probably fifteen minutes. Enough

(01:09:34):
time for him, get all this sound equipment set up,
get his mics and everything tweaked in to where he
can hear all the different directions, and people started scattering
out and he starts picking up his noise in which
you get to hear with your ear is like something

(01:09:54):
beaten on a big steel drum and go through through through. Now,
like I said, now, this started about fifteen minutes after
we got there, and we stayed there probably for almost
two hours, and until I started getting sick, and then

(01:10:15):
other people started getting sick, and we all decided it's
time to leave. I don't know what it was infrasound
or what it was that effect us then that metal
beaten sound. There's no kind of oil rigging or wells
or anything in this area. There's no kind of metal

(01:10:37):
anywheres around that area should be any where they can
be beaten on. But it went on from like fifteen
minutes after we got there till we left, and he's
got it. He had it on all recorded and all this.
Then then you hear this every now, and then you
hear this, then you did the thomb won't metal and

(01:11:04):
you did moom and like a vibration of the phone
then Thom Thoom it was that was just crazy. It's night.
But like I said, I got sick and there was
three three men that got sick at night. But it
didn't affect the females. And it didn't affect the guys

(01:11:25):
that was up in their rage. And it was the
guys that was in therve like from the thirties to
the well I would have been like fifty fifty seven then,
and but if the guys that was like sixty something older,
it didn't affect. And then and uh, the women it
didn't affect. And it was just strange. I mean you

(01:11:52):
could just feel the it just unsettling when you were
standing there. The longer I stood there there to settle,
and they got the sicker I got. And then when
we started leave only got down the gravel road probably
a half mile, it started the symptoms started letting up.

(01:12:13):
The time I got to the black top road, which
was probably two miles, I was totally fine. Again, just weird.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
One of our comments section here says flat Rockland says,
I talked about that sound on Doug's show. He said,
I heard what sounded like a pile driver a click
deep into the brush bush at two in the morning,
and I don't mentioning it, you know, you know, like

(01:12:46):
I said, so many stories and stuff. I remember when
we first started investigating here in Wisconsin. We were down
in the Burlington Woods, and every time that we had
any kind of like weird bigfoot activities start up up,
we would hear again this not a metal drum, but
like a big bass drum, like a boom boom, and

(01:13:10):
it was it was very what do you call uh, rhythmic,
like one and then wait and then one and then wait.
And the weird thing is is we had go pros
that we were recording all this when we were down
there investigating, and it would vibrate the lens of the
go pro, so not only could you hear it on

(01:13:33):
the audio, but the lens would slightly vibrate a little
and go out of focus right when you'd get this
boom that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Yes, that's some crazy stuff. Did you Kate explain what
goes on when you're doing it? That's like a laugh
And them they they've been out a couple of times.
And then we have like a digital recorder. It does
not didly night. You can see at night with it.

(01:14:03):
It has I hour and stuff and when she she says, well,
I'm going to take the hour camera and go out
tonight and investigate and stuff. She get there and it
won't work and it's fully charged, gets to the area,
go to turn it on, it won't even come on.
Get up and get away from that area. A couple

(01:14:25):
of two or three miles reach over and need to
turn right right on the lon what is it? And
we had a third night, two night visions. This did
the same thing. The same night, two different people had
night visions, and I just sold the girl the one

(01:14:46):
and it had rechargeable batteries and it was recharged, brand
new rechargeable batteries that have been recharged when I sold
it to fully charged. She took it out that night
and another person had one and they did put brand
new batteries in it. And then our camera wouldn't work.

(01:15:06):
There was three of three three cameras there that night
that would not work, But as soon as we got
away from that area, all three of them turned on.
All three of them had full batteries. It's some crazy stuff.
You can't explain why it won't work in the area.

(01:15:30):
You can't even get it to turn on. It's like
a dead batteries and you go to another area twenty
minutes later, turn it on. It's full batteries.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
Help yep. I've had that multiple times and we.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Ended up getting EMF meters. But I ain't been out
with them since we got them. To see now. My
wife's had them out and said when things start happening,
she turns them on and she would get EMF reading.
But I ain't, Like I said, I ain't been out
to do it yet. But when you get activity and stuff, yeah,

(01:16:11):
there's EMF she said. The mL will go off. And
other people say they're starting to carry Geiger counters and
stuff and they pick up radiation. Now, when there's activity
and stuff, it's some crazy things.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Absolutely, I don't know. It's all connected, all weird, just
strange world we live in. Yeah, awesome, man. Well we
are at the end of the show here, man, I
gotta thank you again for coming back. I knew that
this was going to be a good one. The Bigfoot
episode that we had. If anybody hasn't got a chance

(01:16:49):
to listen to that, head on over the same network
on the Untold Radio network. Here there is a Monsters
on the Edge with Tim as well. Go listen to that.
There's a whole bunch of big Foot stories on their
amazing stuff, all about your research in Bigfoot and the
encounters and all the stuff at Salt Forks, and even
a weird dog man story towards the end there as well.

(01:17:11):
So really great episode if you're interested in that. But Tim,
Ohio Bigfoot Researchers, you got a Facebook group, you have
a YouTube channel, tell us all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
We have Ohio Bigfoot Researchers on Facebook. Come and join
the group. Please read the questions and answer them and
you will become a member YouTube. We've got twenty some
videos up. I just put a short up last night,
yesterday evening, and it's almost up to three hundred views already,

(01:17:46):
and so come and join and subscribe, hit the black button,
share it and you'll see a lot of our research
on YouTube. And you know there's in our group. There's
all kinds of pictures and videos and stuff of what
we've captured, and it's all one real. I don't fake nothing,

(01:18:10):
I don't I don't make anything up, and I sure
don't exaggerate what's what we've encountered or what we find.
It's all one hundred percent the truth. And uh, that's
why it will be as long as I'm able to
do it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
Yeah. Absolutely, there's a lot of videos, a lot of
pictures and stuff on your Facebook page and stuff, and
we we looked at a bunch of that on the
last episode as well. If anybody's interested, go check that
out on YouTube. And great shows, both of them here.
So I really appreciate your time, really appreciating you having
you on again.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Well, thank you Bornamus for having me about going and
thanks everyone for that's watched, and share it out if
you think your friends would be interested to share his channel,
share all his videos. He's a very good in a person,
and uh, thank you for having me back on the

(01:19:03):
show again. And if you ever want to do anymore,
let me know. We have some more big foot encounters
and that we didn't make it too absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
I know we were talking about some interesting dog band
stuff at the beginning of before we went live as
well that we didn't get to today, but definitely more
more to explore here, guys. So, uh, you know, if
you liked him, give it a like, give it a
share and let me know and we will have him
back on and you can follow him back to the
Bigfoot Channel or the monsters on the edge. Instead, we'll

(01:19:36):
just keep bouncing back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Man. That sounds great, all right, it's great. I enjoy
the time being here, and I enjoy you, uh talking
with you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
I appreciate it, man, I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
If you ever ever in Ohio looked me up and
we'll go out to a couple of areas here and
let's see what we can see.

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Absolutely, I would love to get back to Salt Fork.
We went there for a convention a couple of years
ago and we had I chased something on thermal down
one of the little creeks there, and I have no
idea what it was, but it was big and it
disappeared on me. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
There plenty of them. There plenty of them there. I
mean we've had road sidings cross right in front of
the vehicle. We thought he was going to hit it
that night. And like I said, we've encountered them down
there in many different places, and it's the number one
hot spot, know how Salt Fork is. But I can

(01:20:34):
take the terriers around here. Not quite as known for
Bigfoot is Salt Fork, but they're there. I can take
the one place that I know there's a couple there.
There's one twelve foot there that he's been there for
a long time. And then there's a youtjuvenile and he's

(01:20:56):
I got a picture of him two years ago and
I just got a picture of him this fall in November,
and he's grown. He went from being like six foot
almost eight foot, and his head went from my size
to this size.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
Well, man, I will definitely look you up next time
that we are over in Ohio. So I know we
get there right tons of years so hopefully so I will.
I will give you a call next time I get
a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Man. Yeah, because I'm up in the northern part of Ohio,
up next to Lake Erie, So if you're any worse,
then that's this area. Let me know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Sounds good man, I definitely know. Well you take care,
Thanks for coming on again and I will talk to
you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
You take care and everybody out there be blessed and
talk to you in all later.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Man. All right, guys, that is our show for this
week here on the Paranormal Spectrum. I want to remember
remember remind you all to go and check out Tim's
Ohio Bigfoot Researchers on Facebook and YouTube. The links are
in the show notes for you guys to go check out,
give them the like, give them subscribe, share as well

(01:22:05):
as go check out his other episode here on Monsters
on the Edge my Monday Show and hear all of
his big foot encounters, not all of them, but a
good deal of them. A great show as far as
that goes. Great show again today. Hopefully guys you remember like,
subscribe and share all things here on the Untold Radio
Network and Cryptids Anomalies and the Paranormal Society for all

(01:22:27):
my research. You can check out all the Burlington Woods
stuff that we did the very first episode, our very
first CAPS road trip episode. You can actually go in
there and watch what I was talking about with the
drum beat and the camera vibrating just a little bit.
Really good stuff there. So those are very first episode
we ever put out, So check that out as well

(01:22:48):
while you're online, and you know, because you have nothing
better to do with your life, I guess, I don't know.
Hopefully hopefully you're interested in the stuff, otherwise you wouldn't
be watching the show. So until next time, guys, remember well,
we're all part of the paranormal spectrum. Take care, be
well and I'll see you next week.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
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like you think streets. I'm pages in the room and
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(01:23:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
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