Real American Monsters #14 The Beast of Land Between the Lakes

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Uh, big Foot stopping through woods, son of Shadow, Lain't no.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good mob man, lurking.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Lily, I not buy a burden bine.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Tall man howling, that.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Shadow creeping bringing through Stadt by a thirsting for.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Leave cold to.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
League you did real Welcome to the Islands.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Welcome to Real American Monsters.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Hello Lo, Lo, my friends and Monster Land. Tuesday night,
once again on the Untold Radio Network's Real American Monsters,
and we're back in the chair. We're back in control
for the next hour or so. And do we have
another great guests for you tonight? We have Darryl, the
Tennessee Bigfootman himself Denton backstage in the green room, smoking cigars,

(02:56):
drinking bourbon, do whatever they do in the whatever else
they doing the green room. He's chilling backstage and we're
happy to have him here and he's cannot wait to
uh get him out here. Our friend, the squatch Father himself,
Alfred Santa Riga, hooked us up with Darryl. So thank
you Elle for the for the hookup. I'd like to

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before we get the show started and everything, I'd like
just to everybody just uh, you know. Last week was
a tough week all around with everything that's going on
in the world and all that, and if you could
just you know, just keep you know, doctor Meldrim's uh,
you know, family and your thoughts and prayers, that would
be great. A moment of silence. Tomorrow night on the
Untold Radio Networks on Doug's channel on jug show, he's

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having a big tribute for for the Good Doctor. So
go on over if you want to see a good
tribute show and pay your respects. But that's a tough, tough,
tough week last week. I don't want to get political
or anything, but there's a lot of stuff that's going
on that needs to change.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
And uh, that's all I got to say about that.
Don't want to get into all that.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
So say hi to the folks before we bring Daryl
out as a little blue eyed Northern She's glad to
see you tonight. Miss Diane follows with us WI Babs.
Of course, Michael Morgan is on time tonight, Good Evening, Michael, Day,
Trooper GW Good Evening Day Tripper, Trooper, Monica Smith, Good Evening, Monica.

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So we're gonna have a great, great show. Obviously, we're
going to start off, you know, we're going to talk
a little dog man, you know, because I'm starting to
learn a little bit about the dog Man and everything,
and no, good evening, Tennessee, Kentucky Bigfoot's here with us.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Good evening, Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
And I'm learning all about the dog Man, and Daryl's
kind enough to talk about Dogma. But then we'll have
to go into the Bigfoot because we were talking backstage
about everything, and wow, he's got a lot to share,
and I'm very excited because he's got a lot of
the same of the same ideology that we have. Have

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a real American monster, so we're looking forward to. So
I got to just play something for the boss first,
and then we'll bring Daryl out, ladies and gentlemen, the

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Tennessee Bigfoot Man.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
Darrylf Wow, what am not?

Speaker 7 (05:38):
I'm startingly honored to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Good evening, sir, and thank you for taking time out
of your busy day. I know it's early in the
week and we're very glad to have you here, and
I'm looking very forward to to talking Bigfoot and Dogman.
Would you like I said, I'm a newbie to the
dog man scene and I'm trying to learn as much
as I can. So Al pointed me in your direction,
and you're here, so glad to have you.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Well, I'm glad to be here. Like I said, I'm
always honored to be a guest on anybody's show, and
I've heard nothing of good things about yours, and I
want to thank I Al for sending me the invite
to hook up with you.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
All Right, great, great, great.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Before we get started, do you want to give everybody
just a little, small, little small background on the Tennessee
Bigfoot Man.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
I got started in Bigfoot by complete accident. I never
had an idea i'd be involved in anything like that.
In November sixth of nineteen ninety two, had my first
siding in Canon County, Tennessee. I was twenty eight foot
up in my tree stand and a creature walked out
of a cane thicket next to the creek or the river.
I was on a deer hunting and literally changed my

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life forever. It showed me its teeth, it growled at
me and screamed, and I thought it was going to
pull me out of the tree and I was gonna
be my last day. And that's how I got started
in this, and it kind of. I kind of stayed
out of the woods and didn't do any type of
hunting anymore for about seven years, and then I was

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actually fishing in a spike real rule on the Comnan
River in Tennessee that I fished on and ran to
another family of these creatures, and I became very good
friends with those and spent about four or five years
of almost five years visiting them on a regular basis.
So that's pretty much how I got started on it.

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The definitely life changing and experience anybody that ever sees
one and encounters one the way I did the first one.
And then I was basically lucky enough to befriend the
family on the river after thinking about it for a
while where I should try it or not, and I did,
and it changed my mind about them. These creatures were

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like us. There's good ones and there's bad ones.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
How important do you think that people need to be
aware that that they walked the forest with us? Do
you think that is?

Speaker 7 (08:01):
I think it's really important, you know, because you know
where we research at. My research team is of course
my friend of a best friend of forty five years,
Martin Groves, Ryan Moorehead and Barton only that's my team
that research together in the land between the Lakes of
Tennessee and Kentucky. And we have some spots in there

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that I wouldn't take anybody. There's only there's one or
two spots, and nobody's ever been but Martin Groves and
and it's the area he was almost keeled in in
nineteen ninety three by dog Man and a bigfoot too, Bigfoot.
And yeah, people don't tell these tell of families when
they're going into the forest, and I think that the
National Parks should be able to tell them. The rangers

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shoot should warn people at least have signs up that
these creatures. They don't want to admit that they exist,
even though we all know they do. They just still
have such type of warning signs up, like for example,
they do in Pike's Peak. They signs up Oliver Pike's Peak,
Colorado about the Bigfoot that lived there and let people
know that these creatures including dog Man, could possibly be

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real and be in the area, and be careful of
what you're doing, because there's people missing in the National
Parks and also other areas too. And I'm not saying
they're all based upon Bigfoot or dog man or taking them.
But I do think some of them all. I think
it's very important that people know those things existing are
out there.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
No, I agree with you. One hundred.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Just happened.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Facebook just w Yeah, the Facebook just went down on
the thing. That's weird. I don't know, but that's all right.
Where we're going to work, still rolling.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Maybe they'll let us swill a little bit longer.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Okay, we're good, We're good. You started to talking about
missing people and then the Facebook went missing, So.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
So people we all know that, you know, right.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
We're definitely going to touch base. We're definitely going to
touch base on that again because well, do we just
go with it now that we were talking before the
show about missing people and what each other thought about it,
and we kind of agreed on what was really well
we believe, you know, in our opinion, what's going on
out there? What's your take on the missing for one one?

Speaker 6 (10:17):
What what do you?

Speaker 7 (10:18):
What do you?

Speaker 6 (10:18):
What are you thinking?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
And I think, you know, I thought of Dave pull
Out as pretty well and missing for one can I
am missing? For one one? I think Dave does a
great job and he spends his time in the valuable
time and He's put a lot of hours in to
prove and what is happening and what is not happening,
and he don't have an answer for what's taking people,
and none of us do. But I don't think it's

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all cryptids. I don't think it's a big threat that's
taking out these paper or necessarily a dog man. I'm
sure that some of those people could be taken by
some of these creatures, but there's many people that are missing.
I don't see how it can be possible. I think
there's something else that's involved in it. I don't know
what it is. I wish we didn't know. But you take,

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for example, Yosemite National Park for day Pelatis, it's the
number one missing people area in the entire world, not
the United States, which would be huge. I'm talking the
entire world. There's more people missing there over the years
than any other place in the world, and there's clusters
all around the US and Canada and other countries also.

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I don't understand it, but if you line up for example,
I know I've done it before and I've seen it.
I've done myself with my studies trying to figure out
I started studying about the lay lines for quite a while,
which are the lines that go across the world. And
there's a certain part of these lay lines that actually
the ancient Egyptians and the Romans built most of their

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temples on where the lay lines crisscrossed in certain areas
because they believe that it produced a larger vibration of energy.
And these lay lines are everywhere all across the US.
But where the play lines seem to crisscross in numerous areas.
You lay that over the mount and where those lay
lines are and the missing people are and the cave

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systems are, it seems to be a cluster in all
those areas. It kind of lines up across the US.
It's kind of it's kind of fascinating. It kind of
makes you wonder, why would that line up so ackerately
with the cage systems where the lay lines crisscross with
higher energy and the clusters of missing people.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
I'd be curious to see if there were aquifers underneath
there in court stains.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
And you know how, yeah, I say, you're probably right,
some of that's probably present.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Myself, I believe that there's there's stepping into something that
we're not aware of.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
And uh.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Yeah, you and I talked about that before the show.
I do believe there's step in and so a lot
of these people are probably going into a portal or
a different dimension that we're not aware of, and we
don't know how to find them, and I don't know
how to come back. So I don't disclaim that at all,
because we do know that even animals consider a different
dimension that we can so, and I'm not sure there

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might not be another dimension after that one. How do
we know how many dimensions are actually are right?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Right?

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Well?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
I forgot what the percentage is how much of the
reality that we see with our own eyes. I don't
know the percentage, so I can't comment in it. But
we don't even see ninety five percent of what we
should be seeing. And it's just the science. If you
get into it, it just it makes your head spin.
But these folks are piling their clothes, like you said,

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and you know they're found naked. And what does radiation do?
Radiation overheats you, and that could be like you said
prior to that, that could be the zapping that that's
going on, That could be radiation pursts. And we're measuring
that with meters now and We never had that technology before.
But everybody said, you know, there was the WU and
this and that, but now we have stuff and measure

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it and get the Geiger counters out that you can
carry in your backpacking. Like you said, you want to
tell folks about the footprint that your friends found.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
Oh yeah, you know myself, I partially myself. I've been
zapped three times or inver sounity, whatever you want to
call it. Twice by Bigfoot, once by a dog man,
and the East occurrence was different. The Bigfoot was more
in the stomach, more legs tingly. You can't heart. It's
like your legs are asleep when your legs go to

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sleep at a certain angle you're laying or seating, you
can't hardly move your legs, and then you have a headache.
The dog man is more of an upper chest and
headache and real nauseous feeling. And when you get zapped
by these things, it takes you a while to overcome them.
It took my friend Martin Groves almost two weeks to
overcome the one we got snapped on into LBL in

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October of twenty three. I got over it in a
day or so, but I still didn't feel right for
quite a while. But our friends Joe and Zeski of
Helvin Holler, they also had a Geiger counter and they
tested a track I believe it was a big foot
track at that time. It's been quite a few years ago,
and they found radiation in the track with a Geiger counter.

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So that tells me that these creatures somehow have the
ability to have radiation in their system or producer radiation,
or they wouldn't have it in the track. So I
believe that those Rod Morehead and I have discussed this
many times, and with Martin Groves and Martin only two.
These creatures are on a higher energy than we are anywhere.

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Their vibration is much higher than ours, and I think
they have the ability to somehow use that I believe
radiation to do that to you what we call the
zaching or the infrasound.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
I have to agree with you, Hunt, and I've never
seen it, you know what I mean, I've never at
least I don't know I've gutten z out. They mean,
like we're talking about eye detachments and all that. Before
the show. You're telling me that you're one night from
an outing that you guys had. You want to tell
everybody about the outing that you guys had, and like
all four it was a how many I forgot four

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of you were at the well.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
There was a few others there. We had an outing
in October and the lb AL. The lb AL is
laying between the lakes of Tennessee and Kentucky, and it's
got a lot of history there of really strange things happening,
of people being attacked by dog man, people missing, all
type things of the of the history of it anyway,
and we were having an outing there this last October.

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And Martin's been sick ever since Martin Groves I was
speaking of. He's had a couple of surgeries. He's still sick,
whether or not in the woods all year because he's
been too sick to go and he's still got a
ways to go with more procedures coming up. I talked
to him every day. He's been our best friend forty
five years. And Ron Moore, he was not with us

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stuff different meeting and he didn't affect him. But Barton
Unley was there and he went blind for about two
weeks shortly after that. And we have no idea the
doctors trying to say it might have been bloodshedar that
caused it, but he's gotten his vision back since then.
I SAYLF, I went blind to my left eye that night,

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and I'm still blind in my left eye. I can
see a lot now and taking a lot of supplements
and going to the doctor of different specialists trying to
get my vision back. But we all three had something
happened to us that night, and I haven't fully recovered
from it.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
And people need to be aware of this. It's real.
You have seen the videos, You've seen all the guests
we've had on. I'm sure you've heard Darryl speak before.
Are you sure you heard Al speak? And there's a
lot of others people that are speaking about it. You
need to equip yourself with these meters. You need to
equip yourself with something that can warn you, a warning
system that when you get this high energy of radio

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frequency you should turn around and you shouldn't continue.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
And well, I definitely believe that it's something to it,
because as we were talking before the show here too,
you know, my good friends got Cofferent there passed away
three years ago in August, and he was zapped at
least ten times that year from talking to him regularly

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and the great Smoky mountains there that he resourced on
a consistent basis, and his zapping was mainly dog man
And he actually filmed a portal, actually filmed it live,
and I've watched it several times, and I'm sure a
lot of you have too. Looks like a creature's trying
to step out of it. And you know, he died

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of a brain aneurysm right after the conference up there
that year that we were supposed to meet him and
go out with him at the Gattenburg conference that year
and never got to. Uh, he was the aneurysm is life.
And you know, you get hit by this radiation or
whatever it is as many times as he was. I

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think it has an effect and a toll on your body.
You know, the human sailor body is not adapt to
take that type of radiation over and over, and uh,
we don't have a defense for it. These creatures have
a way of doing that. I really don't understand why
they always do it. They don't always do it. I've
been around many a big throat that never tried to

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is at me. But when you get into an area
you're not familiar with them, they're trying. They're not familiar
with you, and they don't feel as good about you
as you do about them, and it's that type of
situation you kind of startle them, you know. I can't
understan my situation is how it was that both times.
So it was not an area I'd frequently been to.

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But uh, it's a dangerous situation, it really is, and
I do think it's radioactive.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
I'll have to again agree with you. I'm on your team.
I'm on team Tennessee Bigfoot man. I ain sure.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I'm only I can only speak of what I know
and experience here in the audience. I'm no way exported anything.
I've just been blessed in a lot of ways, I
guess you could say, to experience and have the encounters
I've had over the years. And I do think it
may be something to do with my bloodline. I have
American Indian in me, and I wonder if that has

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something to do with it. I never thought that it did,
but I'm starting to think that it does, because I
can feel these creatures when I go into the woods,
and I'm talking about Bigfoot, not dog man. When I
go into the woods, like Martin and I Martin Groves
I'm speaking of he can feel dog Man. I can
feel bigfoot. I don't know how I do that, but
when I go into a certain area, I can be

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riding down the road and I can feel if there's
what I believe a bigfoot in the area. And I'm
talking about a remote area. There's a certain area I'm
at here and I'll be with my wife. She goes.
You feel it, don't you. I know you'll do and
I'll pull over sometimes and stop because I just feel
as things they're close by. And I don't know how
I did. It's not anything that I ever practiced or

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asked to do, but I did it. I feel them
and uh. And like I said, Martin is able to
do that with dog Man for some reason. We're going
to LBA on here. Do you feel them? I say,
the other on the left of us. And I don't
always feel them. If not there, I don't feel them.
But I mean certain areas we go in, I'm just
able to do that. I don't know if that's a

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blasting or a curse, but I'm able to do it.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I think it's a vibration thing. I think you're you're
on the same vibration as they are. And I know
people will listen to this, and but you know what, again,
you can only go on the evidence as presented to you.
And if this stuff is presented to you, you need
to tell the truth. You need to tell folks from happening,
you know so. And I respect that for people that
do that. And it does take courage, though, to come

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out and tell people the way this stuff is happening,
because a lot of people think, you know that your
cuckoo were experiencing this stuff, you know what I mean.
And I've been battered.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
I think I mentioned to you before, had you know
I was? I was a public official. I ran seven
times for a public office and I was very fortunate
enough to win all seven of them. And I was
a commissioner in alban and a mayor of my county
in Robinson County, Tennessee, and Martin Gard was the chief
deputy sheriff. And when we first had our excite, when

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I had my first exciting, my first sighting in November
the sixth of ninety two, I couldn't tell anybody. I mean,
there was there was no groups to go to, there
was no shows like this to go on. And talk
about it. There was there was nothing. You had nothing
because you had nobody to talk to. And then if
you did mention it, people think you were crazy and

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they sure wouldn't re elect you as a mayor because
you're talking about seeing beefood out in orderness. So I
kind of kept it to myself. It was almost like
a PTSD thing for me for quite a while. And
then within four months of my Currens Martin Groves has
an experience while hunting Turkey and they land between the lakes,
him and his partner Harry, and he couldn't tell anybody,

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and you know, he come and talk to me because
we were such close friends. We used to go to
lash and sit down to the table and talk the
whole entire time just about what we were experiencing and
what we were feeling inside and how we couldn't express ourselves.
We're telling anybody because they think we were you know,
we need to be going to the nuhouse. So you know,
I got to the point now I'm open after all

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these years. You know, this has been way over thirty
years now that I've been involved in this. I don't
really care what anybody believes. I know what I've experienced,
and I'm not being smart by saying that or trying
to be rude. I just don't care whether people believe
it or not. I know what I've experienced.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, that's that's great. That's the way. That's the way
you gotta be. You gotta be. That's that's it, you know,
And either you want to listen to you or you don't.
If you don't want to listen to you, then you
can into it. Yeah, tune it out. But I went
back after I figured, you know, when I first started, like,
I thought these were a monkey and I thought, you know,

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all that, And once I started experiencing this, the strange
stuff and the stuff, I went back and I apologize
to the people that used to tell me, wait, you
experience this stuff, And I honestly did went back and apologize.
I said, listen, I am sorry for not believing you
back when, but you know that anything now I do
believe you, so U you also got a Yeah, that

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was the.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Very time, you know, I didn't really know anybody that
I'm very close that I had seen anything. And when
I first said my sighting, I was hunting in the
same area with three of my buddies, my close friends.
I was hitting on my grandfather's farm and we've been hunting.
I've been hunting there all my life, but I'd never
been that far in. I went deeper in this time

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because I wanted a trophy deer and we all had
areas to hunt on my grandfather's adjoining farms of neighbors
he had, and it was a very rural area. And
the same three friends went with me every year. If
third the deer hum, we went up there opening week
of black powder or muzzlowder as we call it. That's
your really best chance to get a bigger deer, because

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nobody's been in the woods and I've been firing guns
and stooped the deer. That's really I always felt like
a better chance. And you know, uh, Cody and Scott
and Jason were with me, and you know I'm mentioning
to that. When I got back to the house, I
was so terrified for my granddad. You know, my granddad
knew what they were. He never told me about them,

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but oh, you seen a woodburger. I said, what, why
do you tell me about these things? I was literally terrified.
I'd run all the way back nearly a mile to
his house because this thing, I thought it was going
to catch me, and it could have, but it didn't.
Now I look back, if it wanted to, it could have.
But you know, I see things completely differently now. Thank

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thank thank goodness for the ones on the river who
made me feel different about them. But people don't really
take other people's They don't see other people's stories as
their own. And it makes a difference because they don't
feel what we feel. And that's and it's totally understandable.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
So you you said you can you can tell you
you can usually tell the difference between a dog man
and a big foot. How do you how do you?
How do you do that?

Speaker 7 (26:32):
How?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
What's what's that?

Speaker 7 (26:33):
What? How do you?

Speaker 5 (26:34):
How can you tell what you're experiencing in the forest
between the two.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Well, I don't necessarily feel a dog man myself. I
feel big foot the big foots. In the area that
we go in. We have what we call hotspots in
the LBA or land between the lights of Tennessee and Kentucky,
and we have probably about five that are really hot spots,
three that are always hot spots, and one that is
a non stop spot that's called Area twenty three, and

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we have another area of twenty three in a different area.
It just happens to be called that because it's a
former campsite that has twenty three on it. And you know,
I feel the Bigfoot's presence. I just I can't explain
how I wish I could. But you know, if you
ever want to understand how this stuff works, you know
Ron Moore, he had been one of my best friends.

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He wrote the book Quantum Bigfoot. I've got it right
here behind me. And if you want to read and
understand how these creatures have the ability with the higher vibration,
they have to somehow relate to you, the best book
I've ever read read is The Quantum Bigfoot by Ron Morehead.

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I've read it five times. Every time i've read it,
I learned something else that I didn't pick up the
first time. But some reason, they have a higher energy.
I don't know how, but I can pick up that
energy if I'm in their area and they're around me.
Mark Grows has the same thing. He picks up a
dog man energy. I don't know how he does it.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
I know I do it.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
He does it. I can't tell you how we do
it because I don't know how.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
I guess I should have not said feel. I was wondering,
how like if you had a if you're having an
interaction in at lb L and it's pretty intense, how
can you tell the difference if it's a dog man
or it's a big foot. That's what I'm figuring out.
How do you how do you tell the difference? Is
that there the way they hold themselves, it's the way
they come at you.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
What's that big foot is? You know? Big food is
knowingly a peaker or what I call I call them
the peakers. I've been calling the mat for years. I've
been all over the state of Tennessee and Kentucky investigating
paper who contacts me about having big fit on their
property or the backyard or or wherever they had them
at and and just trying to help them. A lot

(28:52):
of people are terrified of these creatures when they're looking
in their window at three o'clock in the morning. So uh,
most of these creatures are just elusive, very very intelligent,
and they're just peakers. They want to look at you,
they want to see you, they want to watch you.
They love to watch children. They'd love to hear music,
they're they're just that type creature. You can build a

(29:14):
relationship with them. Some of them will allow you to
do that, some of them won't. There are different types
of them. Are the ones on the river, which I
was so close to. They're the ones that if you
go into the woods. The ones that are the friendly
ones are the ones that formed the big xes. Huge
trees broke off at the bottom that can be green,

(29:36):
nothing wrong with them, and snapped at the bottom, and
they'll be forming AX in the woods, or or they're
forming X on the game trail, or they'll be dead
files of forming X. Those over the years of my
experience are the friendly ones. The ones that I've always
that I've had really good luck with befriending. The one

(29:59):
I on the river they were that type. Uh. They're
not aggressive, They're they're friendly to a certain extent. They
protect their family just like you would yours. You're going
into their house. The woods is their house. It's just
like somebody like one of them walking into your living
room and sitting down one night. Well, you walk into
the forest, that's their living room. So they want you

(30:21):
to be respectful to them. They don't like bright colors.
They don't like red, they don't like orange, they don't
like plaids. Uh. Their favorite food is cantalou cook bacon
and uh jellyfield donuts. That's their favorite food. And they
don't like it throat on the ground like they're a dog.
They want it on a plate or something, and you

(30:42):
push it over and next to the area of the rain,
they'll come out and get it. You know, they're they're
they're a human. They're they're an ancient type human. They're
not an ape. I spent a lot of time trying
to earn their trust and uh asking them their names,
and I told them my name over and over. When

(31:03):
I would come into their area. I was parking a
very real area. It's about a two hundred yard walk
back to their area on a game trail, in a
real thick area. And they lived in an area of
what we call kad zoo, real thick vine like stuff.
They lived in that and I would go in and
when I started coming in, I would start yelling, Hey,
I'm here to see you, and they knew who I

(31:24):
was and knew my voice. I start whooping and they
start making noises and grants and all the type noises
that they make and the cads. They were happy that
I was coming in. I was their friend. This took
a number of years. I was there every day or
every other day for almost five years. I was there

(31:47):
except when I was on vacation with my family or
I had to overwork over time. I was never over
a week or a longer, but normally all the time,
I was there every day or every other day, and
I would let know when I wouldn't come, I'll be
gone for a little while with my family. Don't be here,
so don't think I've left you. And they understand. They

(32:08):
have their own language. They understand the English language, they
understand the American native language, which some of the language
I understand. And they also they pick up on you.
They understand your intentions when you go in. If they

(32:30):
feel you have bad intentions, they will not allowed you
to friend them. So I was very close to the
family on the river. They were my friends. And I
know it probably many sounds strange to some people out there,
but they were and the female was my friend. She
was the first one that I met that stole my

(32:51):
me in a bucket for three weeks in a row
before I figured out was not a kid or some
people stated in my bucket it was one of these creatures.
And she was about five foot tall when I met her,
and when I last time I seen her, she was
probably closer to five and a half or six foot tall.
And the one behind her was a nail and he

(33:12):
was about the same high. And then the one that
watched over them was about seven foot tall when I
first met him. And there was other family members in
there also, and I never got to befriend them like
I did these three. I could see them through the
KADSOI their face, part of their face, part of their body.
They were watching me, but they never made yourself open

(33:35):
and friend me like these three did. And I was
just really close to him. I kept him there with
those creatures. I brought my sleeping bag. I sat the
next to a tree I was at when I first
met him, and got up a little campfire, and they
were twenty thirty feet from me in their kadzoo. And
I spent the night, and they come and look over

(33:55):
the kadzoo at me at night when I was sleeping,
and you know, I had no with them. I tried
every way up possible to communicate with those creatures over
that period of time. And I kept telling them, my
name is Darryl, Please tell me your name. And they
made me all kinds of gifts. And they brought me fish,
three fresh fish. They brought me a half gallon milk

(34:17):
carton that I had been in the river for quite
a while. Was a cardboard one probably read them white
at one time. It was pink and white when I
got it, when the sun and tagged it out, and
had sticks to all four sides of it forming the
X so as it come out so and it had
vine wrapped around that around all the way around it.
It was a pretty nice gift. And I do still

(34:39):
have that gift. And they were my friends, and I
learned to I was learning a lot from them, and
they trusted me, and I trusted them, and I respected
them very much. And they knew my intensions. They knew
I was not there to harm them. They knew I
was there to learn from them and to be their friends.
So I brought them whistles. That was probably the most

(35:05):
exciting thing I ever did. They were bringing me things
all the time. I was bringing them food at different foods,
and I was bringing them gifts from balls to marbles
to I didn't even hear the gifts in this time.
It's just something I came up with because one day
when I went in there to visit them, I was
eating a sandwich. I was on my lunch break at work,
and they were looking at me funny, like why are

(35:27):
you eating and word eye. So I started bringing them food,
so they did enjoy some of the food. I found
out what they did and didn't like, and I brought
them whistles one time, like a little plastic bag of whistles.
They're a little plastic whistles, a little black string on them.
I could give it a birthday part of your kids,

(35:48):
and you know the system. They pull them out and
blow them and I hung them all the branches before
I left one day and I said, I'm leaving these
gifts and I had no idea what they would do.
And I left and when the next day, I think
it was a day after that, I came back the
next day. I was working too nice to get there,
but I came back, and uh, soon as I walked in,

(36:09):
I started saying, Hey, I'm here to see you, and
I could hear whistles blowing everywhere, blowing, daping, to the
layoff to the ride across the river. They were blowing
these whistles, excited that I was coming in to see them,
and it was a really good heart failing that I
was very close to them and they felt excited about me.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, no, I agreed. Like I told you earlier in
the show, I traded with them for six years, and
I experienced all the stuff like you just said, and
you had that feeling and I know that what you're
talking about. When they were there and you were there,
there was a feeling like it. You can't describe it.
It's just like it overcomes you.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
It's just it's amazing failing, you know, y on something.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
That's what it feels.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Yeah, it's it's just an amazing failing.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
I would really terrified of these creatures after my first experience,
and if I hadn't met these creatures on the river
and it wasn't intentional, I didn't hunt anymore after my
first experience. I didn't go in the woods for seven years.
I was terrified. I had nightmares. I didn't know. I
thought these creatures were killers. And the first one I

(37:21):
seen was called the Woodburger, and I only knew that
because I started going to the library trying to find
pictures of what I'd seen, and I found a book
that said ten bigfoot species. And I don't know if
there's ten or twenty five species. I just know that's
what the book said. And the number two one said
the woodburger. And it was the ugliest, meaniest looking thing

(37:41):
I've ever seen to this day. And I've never seen
another one sings. And most of those are in the South,
what I understand, Tennessee, Kentucky, that area, and these are
more like what they call the type three or four,
the ones on the river, which looks more like the
Patterson gimbling type, big for a top. And they were

(38:05):
not ever, never aggressive towards me. They were they were very,
very patient and very They knew my feeling in my heart.
They knew that I wasn't there to harm them. They
knew I was trying to learn and from them, and
they were trying to they were trying to learn from me.
They do think they are higher being than us. They've
been here a lot longer than we have, and they

(38:28):
think they're a little higher than we are. And it's
kind of an arrogant way they have at times, but
they were always friendly with me. They were never anything
but that. And I asked them over and over for
all those years, you know, where are you from? How
did you get here? I'd do this every time I
went in there. I would try to get some kind
of communication. I was trying to learn from these creatures.

(38:49):
I would tell them, my name is Darryl. I've lived
here most of my life, and you know, I have
a children, and I just talk about me, and they
were just sitting and stare at me. And one day
I was had a box of their favorites, which was
jelly filled donuts, and I brought some plates, and I
was opening a box and put it on a plate,
and I was pushing it over about thirty feet away.

(39:12):
I'd get on my knees and push it over right
to the edge of the kazoo, and the female would
come out and drag it in and sit and look
at me while she eat it, and then the mail
behind her would do it, and then the big one
would do it behind as I'd give them their food.
And other times I had a little box or a
bow the tree that I was sitting at. It was
a little box I'd made like a little coat container

(39:35):
that I'd nailed up there between two forks. I'd put
their gifts up there when i'd leave, but when I
brought them food, I'd slidded over because I realized they
wanted it clean on a plate, So that's what I did.
But you know, I one time, I was just in
the box and I was sliding the food over, and
I said, I wish you would tell me where you're from.
You know, I pointed up, I said, are you from

(39:56):
the heavens? I didn't do anything. I said, you from
another galaxy. And then the female went, Now, I don't
know why they would lie to me, And I said,
you're from another galaxy. They said you were from another galaxy.
They agreed to that, and I said okay. I said,

(40:20):
can you tell me your name? And I'm sliding another
donut over toward the middle one looking down, and all
of a sudden, I hear Aliatha. So the female had
told me her name was Aliath. I looked. I was
so stunned and so shocked. I said, your name is Elitha,

(40:42):
and she just looked at me and went like that.
And then I asked the one behind me, said, can
you tell me your name, You didn't say anything, You
wouldn't tell me anything. Then I'm the one behind the
bigger one that watched over them. It was about seven
and a half foot tall at that time, and I
only go by the heights by the ranches up there.
I would measure for a tape, measure how high it

(41:04):
was to kind of get a dyna. So how tall
they were, and the female and the male that was
a little younger ones were never real tall, close to
six foot by the time I last seen them, but
the one in the back was more like seven and
a half. And I'm not sure, but I believe that
he was the older brother that watched them. And then

(41:26):
I hear the word Tobias. I said, your name is Tobias.
So only two words I got out of them after
almost five years. So I learned these creatures are very intelligent.
They know how to speak English. They have their own
gibberish which I've heard many a time in weird tones

(41:48):
that I didn't understand. And then they also had some
kind of other ways of communication that I didn't understand.
But besides me leaving every day, when I would leave,
I say bye, I see all tomorrow or the next
day I'm leaving bye. I would hear bye bye bye
all in the woods there because there was other ones

(42:08):
I couldn't see. They would mock me bye bye. And
I mean it was an amazing thing. I mean, I
don't know how any other way to say it. I
had I would have never dreamed that they knew how
to speak English, but they do. They were holding out
on me, but I already felt like they trusted me
more than that. But that's the only words I ever

(42:31):
got out of them.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
And when's the last time? Do you have you gone
back there?

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Oh? No, it said. It was very heartbreaking. I was
on vacation. I was out of town and working too,
for almost the longest time I'd ever been away from them,
and I told them I wouldn't be back for a
week or two. And I went into the area. And
that was around late two thousand and four, maybe the

(42:59):
middle of toy can't remember the exact timeframe, but it
was in two thousand and four, not quite two thousand
and five. And when I went in, I parked, I
pulled down behind an old sewage water treatment plant. The
guy that worked there and you were a friend of mine,
and we had to go through like a little guard area.
You couldn't just pull down there. And they knew who

(43:21):
I was because my buddy from high school had his
cousin worked at that plant. And you pulled down behind
there and parked, and it's real rule. It's out in
the middle of nowhere, and you walk down this open
you parked your vehicle down and open the gate and
go through this game trail and go about two hundred
yards down and there was another creek coming out into

(43:43):
the Common River and it's a sandbar and that's where
we fished that, but it's a real rural area. Nobody
ever fished there but me and him and a couple
other guys because they didn't know how to get there.
And I never seen anybody else there, but I'd been
going for that to weeks and I came in to
see him. I was really excited. I come back and

(44:03):
I pulled around the bottom and I started walking back
towards the gate. I noticed the gate was off the hinges.
Both of them. I used to have to open the
gate and shut it, and they was kind of leaning
to the side where bulldozs or tracks back to that area,
and all the cats there was in a huge pile
or of some type of tracko or bulldoze or had

(44:26):
piled it up. They had cleared that area off back there,
and the trees were in a pile, and they were
smoking where they were burning them, and there were stakes
in the ground, little small staks were pink ribbons on them,
like they were doing some type of formation of something
they might be building back there. And I got real
nervous and I started yelling for him. I didn't hear them,

(44:48):
and I walked into the woods and walked all the
way back in the feather that I've been before, and
it's real thick back there yet I almost get on
your knees to get back through that area on that
game trail, and I was yelling for him and looking
for them, and they weren't there. If they didn't answer,

(45:08):
I did find some shellecasings not far from the front
of the trail, and I don't know if if they
if someone whoever was or was building something or whatever
they were doing back there, if they came in and

(45:29):
maybe called the authorities, and they thought maybe that they
were frightened of these creatures. They'd probably seen them. These
creatures might have thought it was me when I was
coming in, and because nobody went back there but me,
and they mount alerted them and probably maybe scared these
if it was contractors or whoever it was, and you,
I thought these creatures were frightening, and they met all

(45:51):
the authorities, and they might come in and fired upon
them or or maybe moved them, or I don't know
what happened to him. I know I was pretty upset
about it, and for two or three months I went
back to that area and went back there and went
miles back behind that area looking for tracks, looking for them.
They even got a boat went to the other side

(46:11):
of the river looking for them and yelling for them
and looking for tracks. And I've never seen them or
heard from them since.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
That's awful.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
So I don't know if they were killed or they
ran off to a different area, or what happened to them.
But I kind of believe they may have been healed,
because I just think they would have found me.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Or they went back home.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Possibly I hope that's where they went. That's not like
a form they used to really bother me. It's been
so long now it doesn't bother me like it once
to it. But I just I have to think the positive.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Like you just said, you know exactly what you're You're
you're talking about six years we were there and then
the property was sold and we couldn't go back in
Oh Gosha.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
That I am.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
I was a heartbreaker, cried.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
I had no idea they were going to do any
excavation back there. He would have never even thought it
because this whole plant been there for years. I don't
even know what they I don't even know if there's
anything built there now. I haven't been there in probably
fifteen or sixteen years. And when I was there last,
it was still just like it was just stakes in
the ground. Nothing had been done. It was just cleared.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
So they knew where they were and chased them out.
And that's what my guess is, Well.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
I'm hoping that's where they're hoping that's the case. I
hope they didn't have their life taking because they were
all friendly and they were really good friends to me.
So I took a buddy of mine in there with me, Derry,
and he knew that. He always believed me. I'm telling
him about him going to see my friends, and he
kept asking me, we're taking me with you. I said,

(47:50):
you know, I don't know if they really want me
to bring anybody in there. And finally I did take him.
And this is a guy I've known most of them life,
and you and I played ball together, and Darry was
not scared of anything, and he was just one of
the tougher guys that I ever knew, and one of
my clothes friends growing up. And he went there with me,

(48:13):
and I had a five gallon bucket I sat down
on right next to his tree and it was set
on it, and Darry was on the other side of
the bucket looking over my shoulder. And we're there probably
an hour before they showed themselves because they were kind
of leery of him. And then the female came out
and we've seen her, and I've never seen anybody just

(48:35):
completely scared to death. That was I would have never
dreamed he would have been that way. But he's seen that.
He looked at me and he goes, man, what is that.
I said, I told you they're friendly, they're creepy. He goes, no, man, no,
there's He took off a running all the way back
in the trail and run all the way back to

(48:55):
my truck and lock and got in the truck and
locked the doors and was blowing the horn. That was
the only person I took in there, And that was
definitely a mistake. So and it kind of upsets the
creatures too because they didn't understand. So but anyway, that's
going to another story there. I know you wanted to

(49:15):
touch on dog Man, so you don't let me know
if you're going to do that.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
All right, Well let's break into the dog Man. Yeah,
that that was But no, man, I just we got
a lot in common.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
Yeah, and I'm glad that we do. You know, I
don't run into very many people that's experienced some of
the things I have over the years. And and I
never thought i'd be here. I was. I never had
any intensions. I didn't even know these things existed. So
but I'm here, and you know, it's just an ongoing journey,
and I've been very fortunate. There's been a couple of

(49:49):
cup there's been a lot of times that, you know,
people say, I can't believe you, I've been killed by
woman these things. You know, I've never had one of
these creatures tried to attack me, have it. I mean,
I've had some Bigfoot Bluff charged me in Chatham County, Tennessee,
in an area that I got zappting. But yeah, I'm
not sure that they just didn't know who I was

(50:11):
or didn't trust me. I was in a new area
and we were gifting these creatures back in me and
Billy Howell about in twenty eighteen, and I think they
were just kind of nervous with us, but never had
anything real seriously. So I did have some that attacked
my farm from that same area, I think there. I

(50:32):
called Scott Carpenter because I think I had to hitchhiker
effect on that protector's situation because there was a two
or three of them that we didn't go down there
a while because there were so many orbs that kind
of weirded us out, and they kind of scared my
animals on my farm to death. And they were banging
on my house at two or three apart in the morning.
So Scott helped me rebuke them and get rid of them.

(50:56):
But the dog Man situation, I didn't ever know anything
about dog Man until April of ninety three from my
best friend Martin Groves came in. He'd been hunting the
whole weekend and he came in and he was he
was gone for about three or four days. Him and

(51:17):
him is one of the one of the Sheriff's deep.
He's Harry. I won't mention his last name, but bad
turkey hunting in the land between the lakes, and it
was the opening turkey season and they'd been there two
or three nights and they had these creatures come in
and they followed Martin back from the area he was hunting,
and he thought it was a person in a gilla suit,

(51:40):
but turned out to be a bigfoot. I'm not sure
that it was a big foot today and he's not
one hundred percent. He could have been a gugway, but
it was very similar to a bigfoot. There was two
of them, and then there was two to three dog
men that attacked them at the camp. One of them
was growling at had him coming toward him in. Martin

(52:01):
Putte's revolver and fired several shots into that creature and
he ran up aside of a bluff and was screaming,
and they were lucky to get away with their lives.
But I had never heard of dog man. I'd heard
of the beasts of the lbal and the family go
killed in nineteen eighty two and land between the lakes.

(52:24):
But I didn't know if that story was true or
not true. So a lot of people I knew very
well said it was true. They knew people that were
at the scene. But that was the first time I
heard a dog man. I was actually living in a
certain part of Virginia in twoenty twenty one, just for

(52:45):
a short period. My kid, my youngest daughter, was there
with her mother and her brothers, and I was at
an old country store that I went to in the
morning to drink coffee with a farmers who's out in
the country area of Virginia. And just four or five

(53:06):
farmers sitting at an old table in our country stower
and we have coffee in the morning, just talk, regular
routine talk. And this gentleman came in and went to
the counter, and the Indian gentleman on the country stoer
and he didn't speak English real weal, but we knew
him and he was a nice guy. And this guy

(53:27):
walks in and says, I want to talk to somebody
about some creatures, and I kind of caught my attention.
I was at the end of the table and I
heard the word creature, And I just kind of looked
around towards the counter where the man was standing with
his little boy, and he said, I've got creatures at
my house. Do you know anybody here that knows anything

(53:48):
about creatures? And I looked around and I said, what
kind of creatures do you have? And and I got
up and walked over to the counter and started talking
to the gentleman. He said, you want to follow me
out there? And I said, well, I'm kind of be
easy today, but I'll be glad to meet you another day.

(54:08):
How far it isn't He said about three hours? So
I didn't have the time that day. So I got
his ad dressed, and a day or two later I
went out there and that he had He was living
with his great aunt and him and his wife, and
I believe he had two children. I know he had
a boy. I believe he had a daughter or two.
I've never seen her. But they lived on this remote

(54:31):
farm out in Virginia. And it was in Taswell County, Virginia.
And he said, can you look at my area here?
All my aunt's goats have been killed. Something is ripped
them apart and killed them. And I went to the
area of these goats were in. The goats had already
been removed. I did not see them, but I seen

(54:53):
the tracks, and when I seen the tracks, I had
a good idea what it was. And he asked me,
do you know these tra and I said I think
I do. And I said I've seen those tracks at
the land between the lakes. And he said, well, what
is it? I said, well, I'm I'm not sure, but
I believe it's a dog man type creature. And he
said what is it? He didn't know anything about these creatures,

(55:16):
and I wouldn't have expert on them by any maids.
They still aren't. But so he said, well, can you
find out words coming in and tell me what I
need to do. And he gave me permission to stay
to his place there and I was pulling my track around.
You had to go across the creek to go to
his house, and he made a left to go to
his house, but I went to the right and went

(55:38):
across the creek, went up on the top of a
hill overlooking this large field. It was about two hundred
yards wide and probably about two undred yards long. There
was kingstand with ADATs had been where this creature was
coming in in the corner, he said, and it would
start hoiling, and it scared him and his kids, and
they every when his kids go out in his freight

(56:00):
to I suggested not to let him go out either,
because I didn't know what he was doing with and
I'd stayed there probably just i'd stay. I'd get up
early in the morning and drive out there and stay
in the morning. I never seen anything in the morning.
I started standing later in the evening. Of course that

(56:22):
time of year, it was getting dark around five o'clock
in the afternoon. It was later fall, and i'd just
back giving up. I'd seen tracks. I got out walked
the fence line in the daytime, and I'd seen tracks,
but I didn't see the creature or anything of it.
I thought maybe it'd moved on, since it probably killed

(56:42):
all the goats, and it was about it was a
Friday evening.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
It was.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
I just not made my mind up that if I
didn't see it by Saturday, I was going to go
on back and I through with it anymore, because it
was taking a lot of my time and gays to
get there. And this particular Friday evening, I was on
the hill kind of overlooking the field with little hell
overlooking the corner of the fence, just little rise that

(57:10):
goes up where he had cows on top of the
heel there jeate that I had my truck carked and
I had my binoculars and I was looking at the
corner of the field and I seen something in the
corner move and I've seen this creature and it comes
to the corner of the field. From the woods across
the fence, I can see it come across the fence.

(57:33):
And this field had like it had like stage grass
in it. It wouldn't completely sage, just patches of it
where the grass had died, and it was just patches
of it, probably a couple of feet tall. And again
it was clear in other areas, and this creature come
across the fence. I'm looking at them by binoculars and

(57:56):
I'm probably at that point two hundred yards from it
from the corner of the fence when it crossed. And
this thing was running on all fowerds and I couldn't
understand what it was because it wasn't like anything I've
ever seen. And I couldn't get a real good view
of it because every time I did, it would go
through a spot of that cad a spot of that

(58:20):
sage grass, and I couldn't see it did. And then
it opened up across the field in an area where
it was clear, and this thing was galloping. It wasn't
running like a dog. It was galloping like a horse.
And it was running really strange, and I got a
really good look at it with my locker stand. It
looked like an embasting German shepherd It looked like a

(58:44):
black German shepherd dog, except it was about three times
the size of a German shepherd dog. It was running
on all forwards. It ran all the way from the
top of that field all the way to the corner
where I'm at. I'm overlooking the corner. It runs all
the way to the corner. It stops, It stands up

(59:05):
on two feet the hot legs. It takes one foot
and steps over the fence to the left to the right.
I'm looking at it. It never seen me. I'm looking
at it without leniculars because I'm not that far from it.
And then but I'm up high enough where it didn't
catch wind at me, and it steps over the fence

(59:26):
and disappears into the woodline. And that was my first
dog man creature that I've seen, and it was literally
like a German shepherd, black face, huge pointed ears, just
about three times the size of a German shepherd. I'm
saying it was probably around six foot tall. I think

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I did manage with the branch where it was standing
across that fence. It was right right at six foot
from there to the ground, so I could not see
its feet, but I can see its hot legs as
stepped over the fence. And uh, that was my first
doltment creature. And there was definitely a flesh and blood
try creature. And I went back in there. It was

(01:00:09):
almost dark at that time, so I was back there
the next day and I got out with my gun
and my backpack and I went into that area and
across the fence and went down into that area pretty far,
probably close to a mile. The real remote down in there,
real thick, and I was real cautious about what I

(01:00:30):
might run into. And uh followed followed tracks a trail
all the way round to the bottom of the bluff.
And whatever this creature was, it dug up under the bluff.
It had dug a burrow up under this bluff, and
you can see where they'd been coming in and out
of there, and uh, I shined a flashlight up in there,

(01:00:52):
couldn't see anything, and I didn't see the creature again.
I never did see it again, but there was bad
was all around it where it was eating the different
type of deer and top things around that area, and
it may have been several of them. I don't know.
I only seemed to want but I went around a
little while thinking it might come out, but it never did.

(01:01:14):
And I went on back to my truck, and I
went and tell the homeowner what I'd seen, and I
would suggest that he out let his kids come out
and play unless he was out there with them, and
don't let them go into that particular area. And funny
thing about it. When I was, he said, well, you

(01:01:35):
come up here tomorrow the next day and do a
few things for me, and I did. I went up
and picked the gate, went in the open, done some
things they asked me to do for him, and he
taked me a little bit for doing it, and just
a nice man, him and his kids. He was worried
about him and his great aunt was very old and

(01:01:55):
she had dealt with raising her goats and that was
my first dog minute and the game. Orden met me
on the way out. He was coming across the creek
when I was. He asked her what I was doing
there and I told him. I said, well, I was
up here just scouting out for the homeowner. He told
me I could scout out up here scouting out one.

(01:02:16):
I said, I just doing scouting. I didn't want to
fly or tell him what I was doing, so, well,
you have permission slip and I said, no, I don't,
but he gave me permission. So he followed me back
to the house and told him that he gave me permission.
And on his way out, he says, what kind of
weapons you got in your truck? And I said I
have a shotgun and I have a pistol. He said,

(01:02:37):
you have a permit and I said I've a kay
permit and he said okay. He says, what are you looking?
What are you caring weapons for? And I told him,
I said, well, you never know what you're going to
run into out there in the woods. And he said, well,
I think you both we both know what I'm talking about. It.
My suggestion is to you to leave here enough to
come back. There's a lot of people's livestock that's been

(01:02:59):
getting killed in this area, and I suggest you not
to come back, and I didn't go back. So that
was my first experience.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
So why do you think they tried to hide it
like that or are they are they allowed to take
them down or are they just allowed to know that
they're there? Well, what do you think that? What do
you think is going on with that situation?

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
You know, I truly think for some reason, the government
and you know, you know, they just don't want us
to know what's out there. And there's a couple of
reasons in my opinion. First of all, it would probably
if they was announce on the news or on a
public forum that there was a dog man type creature

(01:03:43):
killing livestock. I mean, it put people into a major panic,
and it truthfully would I mean, how would it not,
So you know, people be terrified some kind of creature
around their farm. But at the same time, I feel
like they have an obligation to do that because someone
could be hurt, one's child or even their animals being killed.

(01:04:03):
So you know, I don't agree with the way they
do that. But he definitely knew what I was doing there,
and he also is trying to let me know that
these creatures were there and they were trying to find them,
So I don't know if they ever did or didn't.
I never have been back there since, and I have
talked to the homeowner once since then. He said everything

(01:04:25):
was fine here, and of course they don't have any
more goats, so the animal probably moved home. So it's
very strange to me. I do believe that the federal
government will never admit that there was any type of
cryptis in the national parks. For the biggest reason by far,
besides the scientific part, is the fact that the national

(01:04:49):
park industry is a two point eight billion that's what
a b billion dollar industry a year. That's a lot
of money the federal government brings in from the national
parks from visitors hiking and camping and whatever else they're doing.
And you go to these national parks and the government
tells people, Okay, there could be an eight to twelve
foot Harry mayn running out out and run around out

(01:05:12):
in the woods. He not harmy, he not not. And
there might be a dog man running round out there
that not rip through he and off, but he might not.
I mean, it's not going to do any good for
the revenue coming in. You have a lot of people
that won't go back to the park. So that's my
biggest belief on why they don't tell.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Yeah, the government will never admit something's real that they
cannot control.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Believe that period. Believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Have you seen the footage that's come out recently this
year of the thermal footage from land between the Lakes
of the dog Man.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
I've seen several footages, you know. Are you talking about
the same footage that Roger Williams and him had I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Ago a couple of months ago, mister mister Joel Parker,
Miss Pat and Harrison and be a buddy. Yeah, that footage.
Well what do you think that?

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
To me? That is some pretty pretty pretty amazing footage.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
No, I don't. I don't believe it's legitimate. Yeah, those
people are really good people anyway, I know those people.
But uh, you know that I would I would suggest
to anybody. You know, I'm not trying to scare anybody
or make anybody feel uncomfortable, but I can tell you
this much. I've been to a lot of places in
my lifetime, and some places are a little scared that

(01:06:33):
I've been to even some places in Montana, some places
in the Blue Ridge Mountains, Uh, some places on the
Appalachian Trail. I mean I can go on and on
some places that gave me a little weird failing. But
there is no place like land between the lakes. When
the lights go out, and the land between the lakes,
it is a different world. And if you don't know

(01:06:56):
the area you're in, and you don't know where you're at,
don't go to the Land between the legs. I would
suggest you go to Hillman Campground or some of the
campground areas where there's a lot of people and they're
well supervised, and you can still have a great time
and still go out and fish and hunt and even

(01:07:16):
high in the daytime when some of the trails they have.
But don't go out into an area that you don't know,
because I know what's out there. And every time we
go to the LBL, we don't have an experience. Sometimes
I'll sit there and tell you we do because we don't.
But a lot of times we go, we have more
than experiences that we want to have. And dog Man

(01:07:37):
lives in the LBL. It goes back to the seventeen hundreds,
of stories of with you know, the French that were
there and even the American native that dealt with these
dog type creatures that attack their livestock and their animals
and even the people. So I don't I think there's
flesh and blood there, and I think there's something else

(01:08:00):
there too that Martin Groves and I've seen in October
of twenty three is I've never seen anything like that
in my life, and I mean not anything even close
to what we've seen. And we were in the area
real close to where he was attacked in ninety three,
and we were actually in there because it was twenty

(01:08:20):
nine years, not to the day, but twenty nine years
since the attack, and we were in there going back
to that spot that night. We were going to go
back to a spot and camp out, so we hadn't
been there, and he hadn't been there in twenty nine years,
and we were going and we didn't make it that
far because we run into a creature that that I've

(01:08:44):
never seen anything like. And you know there again, it
didn't try to kill us. It could have. It could
have taken us out very easily. I don't know what
in can't these creatures have and they're very unpretty intimal,
but we've been very fortunate. We've never been attacked by
one now. And March of twenty twenty two, Barton and

(01:09:08):
Lee and Martin Groves and I were in an area
called Area twenty three, one of our hotspot areas, and
we were completely surrounded by dog men. They were howling,
they were barking. They were coming across the water in
the shallow if we could hear him stopping and coming
through the water. I was pretty nervous. I was a
little frightened, and Martin was ready. He was We were

(01:09:30):
sitting next to a campfire in the woods and Martin
had been zapped three or four times that night. I
took him to the restroom I'm not real far away
from there a couple of times because he felt like
he was going to throw up, and he was pulled
up back then there in his suburban, he was laid
back in his seat with the windows down, and Bartin

(01:09:50):
was hour in the woods right next to his suburban
with a camp We hear these creatures coming. They were hoiling,
they were barking. I was pretty nervous. I got admit
that I was, and he looked at me and said,
are you ready. I said, I'm ready as over. But
they're coming. And we thought they were just about to
come in on us. And I was prepared and he

(01:10:11):
was too, and Martin jumps up out of the truck
just walked right into the woods. I said, man, don't
go into woods by yourself. Martin, don't go into woods
by yourself. Walks right into the woods or I can't
see him start screaming and shouting this scripture that he

(01:10:34):
believes in and I'm talking about. I couldn't hear it.
What was what he was saying as well, because he
was a waif from me and he was saying but
I could hear him. And he comes right back, gets
in his truck, just in his vehicle, lays back in
the seat because he's still feeling sick, and he said

(01:10:55):
it'll be okay now, boys, And it got so quiet
or pan drop. Those creatures heard that scripture. These creatures
know who Jesus Christ is. And if you don't think
they do, they do. All of them do. And I
don't know if that's a good point for them or
a bad point for them. But we're we're all three

(01:11:17):
of us, or are Christians and we believe in Christ,
and and I think that does help us and protect
us while we're in there also. But I've never seen
anything like what I've seen that night when these creatures
were there. Was these creatures are on the hillside market
and howand coming toward us. I can hear them coming,

(01:11:39):
and uh, I thought they were going to attack us.
I really did. And I'm not sure that they wouldn't
have if Martin hadn't done what he did. But it
was pretty amazing. I've never seen anything quite like that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
So that obviously with the with them retreating in Christ's
name there, they're definitely an evil, evil type creature because
you know they they they cower underneath.

Speaker 7 (01:12:01):
Uh he would think so, he would think, so you would, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
The temperament. Now big Foot will do the same thing,
but they won't go to that extreme. They'll they'll they'll
push over a tree, they'll knock on they'll hoot and
holler at you. But then it's like then it turns off,
like you had just turned on. Was this just constant
until until he chanted at them? As it was?

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
That? Was it just they were that not that night
we had had a friend. We had a friend that
come with us there, and he won't stay in the LB.
When he gets dark, he's out of the He won't
stay in the dark. And the LB A he's been
going there for thirty or forty years of his life.
And hey, we had grilled out right there on a
grail that we had on the fire and had dinner

(01:12:49):
and uh, right before all this started happening, there was
a big foot on the heel to the left and
I could sing him clear's day you look around a
cedar tree. He look around and pak at us and
he was watching us. And I told Barton, I said,
look to the left, to the top. And Barton rebuked
these creatures back ten or twelve years ago. He has
a difficult time seeing them because when you rebuke those creatures,

(01:13:14):
they don't for some reason. You can't see him as
quite as good as people that haven't done that. And
you know, he can see them through the camera, through
the camera on my phone, but not with a high
I don't know how that's possible, but it's true. And
that's kind of war off. Since then, he can see
him now, but for quite a while there seven eight years,

(01:13:35):
he couldn't hardly see him. He felt them and hurt him,
but he couldn't see him very well. But we watched
that creature for a while, and Martin and I seen it,
and you guess that was there eating with us seeing
it too, and they were just watching us. They weren't
trying to bother anything. And when those dog mans started
coming in later that night, I could hear him, maybe

(01:14:00):
maybe a mile or so away. I could hear them.
I can hear coyotes howling first, and then it turned
into a different kind of hole, and then the cooties stopped,
and then these creatures were howling a different hound. I
could hear them on different hills, and they were all
coming together. And at that time of the year in
the LBA or we're close to the water right there

(01:14:20):
in that particular area. It's what it's called summer pool,
where they lower the water for the lake, or their
rise raise the water in the spring. That time of
year they lower it and the back part of the
of the bays where we're at, the water is only
like a foot deep across the bays, so I can
hear these creatures running through that water, coming from the

(01:14:41):
other side of the lake. And it was very obvious
what I was hearing I was, I was a little nervous,
and I don't know what would kill these things and
what won't kill these things. I've never had to fire
on one, but I've had a lot of people tell
me that you can't kill them. I've had people say
that you good, I don't know. This is not a bigfoot,

(01:15:02):
this is a dog man. So I've never had to
fire on any of those croaches. So I was close
to in my house in twenty twenty one when when
the his hoicker effect worked with a couple of bigfoot.
But they never tried to kill me, but they sure
made me feel like they wanted to. So But anyway
that you know, I had a friend named Beth Collins

(01:15:24):
work and my phone does not work in the LBALE.
I have no signal there at all. And then she
calls we're all three there before this happened with Martin
going into the woods, and my phone starts ringing, and
I'm thinking, how is this happening? Because I can't get
anything in the LBL none of us can except Mark.

(01:15:44):
He can sometimes get something, but I've never been able
to get anything with my service. And I picked the
answer to the phone. She goes where are y'all at?
And I said, well, we're in. She goes, you're in
the lb AL. Before I could even say it, I said, yeah,
we are. She goes, y'all need to get out of
right now. And she goes, there's a whole pack of
dog man surrounding y'all and there's a faral man with him.

(01:16:09):
I know this sounds crazy, but that's what she told me.
And Beth is one of the most intuitive I never
known anybody quite like or She has a way of
doing things that I can't explain. But I said, what
do you mean. She goes, I'm telling you there's a
dog pack of dog man surrounding y'all, and there's also

(01:16:30):
a feral man with them. I said, how did you
call me? She goes, just do what I tell you,
y'all get out of there, and she hung up. So
that's when Martin gets up, goes into the woods and
does what he did, and quite frankly, between her and him,
they probably saved us from having some type of attack.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
Do you think you're being hunted?

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
You know, I don't know what we did to be hunted,
but I just think, you know, yeah, it was so
hard to understand it really is. I felt like that
they were going to attack us that night, no doubt.
I really felt like they were going to I don't
know why, but they were surrounding us. I could hear
them behind us, I could hear them on to the right,

(01:17:16):
onto the huge hill in front of us. I can
hear them running through the leaves up there. I can
hear them all around us. They were searching us, and
I don't know why they were doing that, but for
some reason they were. They were out to get us.
I believe they were. So.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
I think when you saw Rake, is that what you
were you were talking to Skinny White Luminous.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
The grounds now we've seen that was in March of
twenty twenty four in lamontwenty Lights. It's an area called
Jones Creek. It's a closed campground. There's once a There's
tons of campgrounds in the LBL that have been closed
just for no reason at all. Now, Jones Creek had

(01:18:03):
a basketball court, a small grocery store, campsites. I don't
remember how many campsites. I think I'll rude around two
hundred r V camp sites. I believe tennis courts too.
I believe it was just super nice campground overnight and

(01:18:24):
said that the bridge getting into it and that definitely
is not sure. There's nothing wrong with the bridge, but
we have a pretty good idea. We know what happened.
There was some type of attack that occurred there and
they decided to close it. But anyway, we were close

(01:18:45):
to that area and I was on a trail and
next to a gravel road where we parked and got
out walked to this one area that we go to
there and I here's something running through the and the woods,
just running down a hillside. It's like in front of
me to the right, and it's running fast. And I

(01:19:07):
got a bright flashlight, we all three do, and I
shine the bright flashlight over into the woods there, and uh,
I see this thing running on on it. They looked
like a human and it was running on it's It
was running on like all fours and it comes running

(01:19:28):
right up and runs up a tree just like it
was amazing. It just runs up this tree like it
had claws or something. It didn't even slow down, just
running right up this massive, huge tree right in front
of me. It's probably probably one hundred and fifty foot
tall tree. There's a huge, big, old tree, and Martin
and Martin were on the they were on the gravel road.

(01:19:50):
I was off the gravel road on the trail right
below them, and this thing. They both seen it. Martin says, look,
what is that thing? He shined a light on it,
and it looked just like one of those humanoid type
rake things. It was a whitish gray color, so skinny,
but had a head of a human. It just looked

(01:20:12):
really weird. And it ran up this tree, ran all
the way to the top of the tree. I'm walking
around the tree shining this bright light on it, trying
to get trying to get a sighting of it, a
better shot of it, and every time I did, it
would move around, but the other side from the get
away from the light. And then it starts this clicking noise,
like a click, like a clicking noise. I can't explain

(01:20:35):
how it sounding, but it was like a click, click, click,
real loud noise. And I didn't know what that was about.
And about that time Bart and Bart said, get out
of there. Let's get away from this thing. We don't
know what it's capable of doing. And about that time
we hear one or two more of these creatures behind
me on top of the ridge. They're clicking back and

(01:20:57):
this thing's clicking with them and it's clicking, are talking,
they're communicating with each other. So yeah, we we've seen
one of those things. Is the first one I've ever seen.
Very strange looking, really thin, skinny, humanolid looking thing running
on all fours and just ripping up a free just

(01:21:18):
like a squirrel. I've never seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
It was unbelievable and uh, like white jello and saran
wrap right the skin.

Speaker 7 (01:21:26):
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, really well, I never I've heard
of them all my life and I've never seen one.
But that was. That was our first sighting in one,
and I don't care to see another one, to be
honest with.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
You, but there was I was, okay, tell me that.
They started clicking, and I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
The clicking sound had us really made us feel strange
because it was they were definitely communicating with one or
two more were up there, and uh and it was
loud clicking. I can't explain it. It was like a
real loud like a like a popper licker. And and
then the other one on the heel would would click

(01:22:05):
some kind of clicking no, whar's back and this would
click back like they were talking some type of language.
But anyway, they were afraid that this thing. They thought
they would not be getting surrounded with these things because
there was some more of them, and we decided to
leave the area. But they're out there. I've never seen

(01:22:25):
one of them, but they're definitely out there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
Has anybody I'm not familiar with lbl Has anybody ever
like dove into the history of LBIL. Has it been
cursed by the Native Americans at one point there's something
really bad to happen a long time ago, like a
massacre or any any type of that stuff ever happened.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
Well, the biggest thing is that lb ALS is first
of all, it's got so many cemeteries. I don't even
know how many cemeteries it has. And these cemeteries go
back to the seventeen hundred and some of them do.
And they're way out in the You'll be out in
the middle of nowhere in a forest and you'll find
a cemetery and you'll have a fence around it, and

(01:23:08):
that hadn't been you know a lot of times, the
families hadn't been there in years to take care of it.
There's a cemeteries everywhere, but the biggest things a the
LBL that A lot of people think that when the
Tennessee Valley Authority came in, I can't remember the exact year,
but I think it was nineteen sixty four or maybe

(01:23:30):
sixty six, and the Tennessee Valley the Authority were building
the dams across Tennessee and Kentucky to help with electricity,
and the dams to make the electricity for the transformers,
which of course lighted the area, and that whole entire area.
People had farms that had lived there. It was that

(01:23:52):
one time that place was called Two Rivers. It was
called I think it was called Two Rivers. There were
several different towns that was there. And anyway, they came
in and they tell these people they either leave or

(01:24:15):
they were flooding them, and they offered them I would
I understand. I don't know all the details, but I
understood that some of these people had been living on
those farms there for you know, hundreds of years, and
there were family farms, and they apparently didn't offer them
what they thought their property was worth. And the Tennessee
Valley Authority told them they had so many days to

(01:24:36):
get out or accept their offer, or they were flooding them.
And there was a whole lot of those areas that
were flooded and people were drowned. They just flooded farms
with cattle and everything. Cemetery schools were flooded. It's like
a whole town under that lake, several towns and there.

(01:25:01):
A lot of people think all those cemeteries had a
lot to do with what they call the curse of
the lb Al the blood Stained Grounds. I've heard that
many a time. My good friend Elijah Henderson, him and
Johnny Henderson, his light dad that's passed away. They did
a lot of studies on the land between the lights

(01:25:22):
of Tennessee and Kentucky. But that has a whole lot
to do with it. They think that that brought a
bad energy there, on top of the fact of so
many people that lost their farms and their lives there,
and so many timetaries that was covered up with water.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
Oh and then yeah, it's just got to be what
I was thinking, you know, it has to be something
major for that much bad juju in one air, you know,
And like obviously it's huge, how many acres is lbl'.

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
Seventy thousand acres.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
Wow, I own that. I don't have that in my backyard.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
I own all that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
It's one hundred and seventy thousand acres and it used
to be the National Park Service, but now it's the
US Forestreet, so they pretty much patrol it now. But
you know, I've had so many weird occurrences there. I
mean I could go into them and take me all
night to even talk about all of them. But I've
actually seen him one hour. And let's see, there was

(01:26:29):
six eight fifteen of us there on an outing. We
went in two cabins and Hillman Ferry, which is a
really good place for just anybody to come and go.
You can go there and have a good time. It's
a very nice campground. And but we all went out
in four different vehicles to different areas that night. You know,

(01:26:50):
we'd stay there and somebody'd go out and come back.
But I witnessed and they witnessed. It was the most
craziest thing I've ever seen. I think a full moon
at eight point thirty at night, clear white, beautiful full
moon turned completely orange for an hour and a half

(01:27:13):
and then go back to white, and then all hell
Broke Loos because my good friend Elijah Henderson, Gabriel Henderson,
his sister, and a former sheriff, Matt Dial were in
one vehicle and they were headed down down the Trace,
which is the main parkway through there. And the Trace

(01:27:35):
turns off the roads and there's roads that go so
far back in there. There's dirt roads to the left,
gravel roads to the right. It just goes say, if
you don't know where you're at, you can get lost
back and they're really easy. So they're traveling to an
area that we were all going to go to different
areas and see if we've seen anything that night. And

(01:27:57):
they're traveling and they're going down a hill and all
three of them witness hundreds of snakes crossing the road. Snakes,
just hundreds of them, all three of them saying them
they couldn't believe what they were saying or calling back.
There snakes acrossing the road everywhere, and they had to

(01:28:18):
slow down they were running over them. And after the snakes,
they seen just hundreds of deer acrossing the road, running
across the road like they were running from something. And
that area is loaded with so many white tailed deer
its unbelievable anyway, but these deer just kept running across
the road like they were trying to escape from something.

(01:28:38):
And then after just about the time the deer went by,
they seen a dog man run across the road on
all fours. I know this sounds crazy, but it's absolutely truth.
Everything I've told you is nothing but the truth. And
the other vehicle, which was a lutician and Lee Barton's

(01:28:59):
wife and two of them, the ladies anikated with Jones.
They're in a vehicle. They stop, they're going to a location,
and a mouth man stops in the middle of the road,
flies down and makes their car that's a stop. They're
gonna run over it. It's a mouth man looking creature
that lands in the road. It's not as tall as

(01:29:21):
the one we've seen pictures of, but it's a smaller one.
But it looked like a mouthman type creature that landed
and just looked at him with his red eyes, and
then it flew off. And uh, I mean, all this
happened within an hour and a half. And then they
come back to the camp and they're all excited telling

(01:29:41):
us what the heck was that? And then the moon
goes back to what true story? True story?

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
I'm telling you you got no reason to lie, you
know what I mean. And that's like, you know what,
You're sitting here making one thousand dollars to tell lies
about anything, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:29:57):
So well.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Is your word and your truth in this and uh,
that's all you've got really, so.

Speaker 7 (01:30:04):
Well, there's a lot of witnesses that's seen all that
stuff too, so that makes a little difference.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
But I believe, I believe you don't have to convince me.
You gave me the ward with the clicking. I'm still
thinking about that clicking.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
Yeah, that was you know with right the night before
we had seen that Ron moorehead and Martin Untley and
and Martin and I were headed down the trace and
we see this creature sitting on the side of the road.
Now this is on the main paved road that goes
from one end of the park to the other end.

(01:30:38):
Now you may not see a car on that road
in the night for an hour. I mean, it's not
very much traffic on it. But we're headed down back
to the area we're camping in and I see this
creature on the side of the road. The headlights hit it,
and Martin says, what was that? He stops his vicar
real quick. We back up, We turn around the road
and shine the lights on it. Setting there. It looks

(01:31:02):
like it's as big as a grizzly bear. It's huge.
It's like the size of the grizzly It's sitting on
its rerian on the side of the road on getting
a ditch. It's just sitting there looking at us. But
the only difference it looked like a grizzly bear body,
but it had the head of an anator. And we

(01:31:24):
all seen it, and I said, what an the world
is that? And I tried to get a picture of it,
and as soon as I tried to, it took off,
running into the woods.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Well, look, this sounds like you can name that one.
I've never heard of that before.

Speaker 7 (01:31:40):
I talked to one person that's seen a creature just
like that in Illinoi and they said, I've seen it twice,
the same creature you're talking about. And that person who's
shell Dion and she's seen it twice and close to
a lake and a part of Illinois that she researches.
So but as I don't know, I can't tell you

(01:32:01):
what weird things are out there, but I can assure
you one time, there's some very strange things that are
that exhausts in our wilderness.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
So all right, well we're at the ninety minute mark,
and uh, just like that, I'm going to have to
have you back because i want to get back into
the family unit and talk trading and I want to
hear more about LBO. I'm actually headed to Alabama on Saturday.
I'm going to go hang out with Mark Green for
part of the week and then I'm going to end

(01:32:32):
up at Flat Rocks at the end of the week.

Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
Well, I can tell you right now you won't find
any better paper than those padiful Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
I know, I'm excited. I have been friends with him
for a long time. I've never met him, and I'm
gonna Pat Harrison is going to be there and mister
Joe and I'm going down with Bud.

Speaker 7 (01:32:48):
So uh, well, Mark Green is that's a good guy.
Him and Rebecca. I've friends the AM and talked to
them pretty regular. We just had the Tennessee wild Man
Conferences last month and they were both there and enjoyed
talking to them. Always do. And you got wood Walkers,
you got you got a lot of good people there. Man.
You've got Roger.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
Williams, Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
Spencer, Yeah, Spencer, Spencer is a great guy. And then
you you've also got uh. I don't know if Bama
will be with him or not. Bama Murdoch, you so
freak with him quite often, and so did Cumbo Banker.
Tim Cumbo Banker and I just did our conference at
Tennessee wild Man, he was the speaker there also, and

(01:33:30):
month before that we were in Nebraska together. So you're
you're going with some great people because those people are
just the best people in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
Yeah, I'm excited. I very am much excited. I can't wait.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
Have you back again because I need to hear more,
and I'm sure everybody wants to hear more. So we'll
get your scheduled back, you know, later on probably the
new year.

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
And yes, sir, I appreciate you having me, and thanks
everybody for listening. And I appreciate you everybody. Before I
go here, I please keep you my best friend Martin
Groves and your prayers. He's had a really hard year.
He still have got a ways to go before he's well.
And he got out one today o'b had a couple
of weeks ago because he felt so bad. He had

(01:34:14):
friends there and he's been really sick ever since he went,
so he's recovering. We just need to keep him in
your prayers. And if you're not familiar with my great
Bigfoot Believers of the Creatures, I'm sure appreciate you joining us.
If you're a member, I appreciates you on here watching
us and keep an EyeT from our new podcast. Ron
Moorehead and myself. We have a new podcast starting up

(01:34:38):
and it's called Two Real Cryptied Legends and Help. You'll
watch that with us. And I want to thank my
good friend here for having me on and I appreciate
you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
Yeah, thank you so much, and we we'll I'll link
everything that you can find Daryl in the in the
in the in the description tomorrow and uh, yeah, so
thank you, thank you so much for sharing. I had
a great time. I mean personally, I really had. This
was a great interview and I learned a lot and
actually have a lot in common. So, uh, just hanging

(01:35:09):
out backstage for a little bit. Why I say good
night to everybody, and.

Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
Yeah, thank you everybody for watching. I appreciate it, ladies.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
Darryl then all right, all right, all right, what another
great show, another great show. So next week we will
be live either from Creepy Mountain, I don't know where

(01:35:39):
what Tuesday night we will be live from Alabama, and
then the following week when I get back, I'm off,
and then we have Hoyt Vollarde will be the next
next He is a tribal elder from New Mexico. So
I'm looking very forward to having Hoyight on the show.
And we've actually been invited to go out to New
Mexico and camp there, but sounds like I need to

(01:36:01):
get to LBL here sooner or later because I need
to go experience that place. I love to travel. So
thank you one and all for keeping it cool, and
thank you for Darryl. And keep Daryl's friends in your prayers. Everybody,
everybody needs a little prayer now and then, and it
does work. So and that's it. We're still working on

(01:36:24):
our documentary. It's coming out. Have you heard about the
vocals that we've captured. Some of you you've heard them,
some of them hasn't. David Ellis has vetted them, and
we're very excited. We've actually caught sasquatch vocals, very loud
vocals and cool vocals, and you'll all get to hear

(01:36:44):
them when the documentary comes out. So that's all I
got for tonight. Thank you all for being kind in
the chat and experiencing everything that we do here at
Real American Monsters, and I appreciate all you. I love y'all.
And as my friend Larry says, get into woods people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Out of my head. I was best to sleep dead.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
Could I be dead?

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Is it something I have done.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Did lead you to think that I was gone? Design Cley.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Become me?

Speaker 8 (01:37:56):
How cannot be hold myself?

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
Play?

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
So far?

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
What's in a wild? I get tired of talking. I'm
good on a smile.

Speaker 8 (01:38:18):
Let my alter ego wherever the stays were show, get

(01:38:46):
a mouself.

Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
So

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