Real American Monsters #19 Army Veterans Battle with the Hatman

😱 SHADOW FIGURE TERROR:
Tonight on The Untold Radio Network at 8pm EST, prepare for a descent into the terrifying unknown! We welcome Tom Franklin, a former U.S. Army soldier, stand-up comedian, and fearless paranormal investigator, whose life is a roadmap of chilling, unexplained encounters.
Born in Baltimore in 1980, Tom's connection to the supernatural began at age eight with intense poltergeist activity. But the real terror solidified during his two decades in Germany, where he came face-to-face with the legendary, bone-chilling entity known only as the HATMAN. 😨
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Tom didn't stop there. Seeking a deeper connection to the mystery, he purchased 10 acres deep in the jungles of Mexico, a location that has become a nexus of strange and unexplainable events. What secrets lurk in the ruins and shadows of the Mayan land? The jungle has delivered a terrifying new series of encounters that defy logic and science.
Join us as the host of The Eye of Jupiter Podcast dives into:
• The Infamous Hatman: Tom's terrifying personal encounter with the shadowy figure and what it truly represents.
• Jungle Mysteries: Cryptids, UFOs, and relentless hauntings in the heart of Mexico.
• Consciousness and the Paranormal: How personal adventure connects to the deepest mysteries of the mind and the universe.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
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Speaker 4 (02:01):
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Speaker 3 (02:12):
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sad fairy. Welcome to THELS.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Welcome to the Real American Monsters. No no, No, My
friends and Monster lands today night once again on the
Untold Radio Networks, Real American Monster and we are back

(03:01):
in control. We are back at the Helm and we
have another another great guest for you today. We will
not disappoint. Mister Tom Franklin is with us. He is
the host of the Eye of Jupiter podcast. Tom has
had experiences from eight years old and on and tonight
we dive back into the paranormal. We leave the sasquatch

(03:25):
world a little bit and we dive into the paranormal.
Tom lives the Border and Koe lives in the Mexican Jungle,
and we're going to hear stories from the Mexican Jungle
also tonight. It's going to be a great show. If
you're not a subscriber to Tom's channel, you should go
on over and check him out. I was actually a
guest on his program. So go on there and give

(03:47):
Tom a hello from real American monsters. So good evening, everybody.
Everybody's pouring in in the chat room. Oh, the Squatch
Father himself, Afred Santa Rica's with us. Good evening, mister
Thomas Franklin, good evening, Miss Francesca. Hello, Kim Kincaid. Good evening, Diane.

(04:09):
So everybody's pouring in to see mister Franklin tonight, and
it's going to be another great show. Mister Stephen Wolf
is here on time, folks. He is here early, and
he is on time. We have such a great chat room.
I hope you guys all enjoy the chat and all that.
I forgot to show this a couple of weeks ago,

(04:29):
and then I'll bring our guests out. That Miss Francesca
won the book from Al's brother Paranormal Family and Friends.
So there's a picture of her with her little friend
in the background, and there's Miss Francesca. So she was
the winner of the book. And if you guys haven't
seen that interview, he should go on over and check

(04:50):
it out because it was a great interview. Al's brother
is a great guy and as Alan is himself. So
all right, So one announcement the the I have a
new video on my channel on Real American Monsters Channel.
It's called the AHC We were We just got brand

(05:12):
new private property. We got hundreds and hundreds of private
property acres of land here in the Connecticut Massachusetts border
and we have access. We have access to come and
go as we want, campsite in the middle ground zero
and we are going to go in there and try
and experiment, and we are going to try and bring

(05:32):
the guys in with the frequency end of things and
all that. And we're gonna we have starlink and we
have a bunch of toys and it's going to be exciting.
So go on over and check that out on my channel,
and that's on the Real American Monster Channel. We're going
to start that thing rolling, all right. So yeah, mister
flat Rock is here, mister Patrick Nobel, So everybody's pouring in.

(05:52):
So let's that's enough for me, ladies and gentlemen. Our
guest tonight from the Eye of Jupiter Podcast, mister Tom Frank.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Hey, Hey, Chris, how's it going, buddy? How's it going.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Right? Good evening, Good evening. How are you.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Oh, I'm yeah, just just coming back from basketball practice.
I'm doing good man.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
All right, good well, thank you for taking time out
of your busy day. I know you got your tutor
in and you're teaching kids basketball, and you got your
hands full down here, you got a you got a
house in Mexico, you got a house in Germany. You're
all over the place. So before we get started, why
don't you get to everybody, just a little small little
bio on mister Tom Franklin before we get started.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Oh, you want me to tell me about myself? Okay,
So my name is Tom Franklin. I'm from Baltimore, Maryland.
I I'm former US Army soldier. I spent four years
active duty. Two of those years I was stationed in Germany.
Six months of that in Kosovo, met my ex wife
of twenty something years. Lived in Germany for twenty years,
and then I came to the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico

(07:03):
in the end of twenty twenty one because I didn't
want to complete and gave up my entire existence there
except for my house, cars and everything, and came down
here to the Yucatan. And now I live here in
the jungle. Well, I don't live in the jungle, but
I have property in the jungle because I mean we
split up. But I do live in the city and

(07:24):
I run a podcast called the Ia Jupiter and we
talk about, you know, basically the same thing as you
do talk about. Hello, Hello, Steve. You guys have you
have a wonderful chat room over there by the way?
Wow going on and yeah, paranormal consciousness, bigfoot, forest people,
dog man wind, it goes, anything, anything goes. Every Tuesday,

(07:45):
I have a show that comes out live, so it
just dropped today. That one is about the Trickster Entities.
And every Friday I have a live show and you
were on one of the live shows recently. Thank you
so much for coming on and I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
All right, well, thank you, thank you for being here.
So I read your biography that you sent me, and
again I am I am going to all aspects here
with the sasquatch and the paranormal and the ghosts and
all that, and I'm trying to bring it all in
together because I believe it's all it's all together one
way or the other. It's all linked.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
So again, now I read your about your bio and
you had one of your first, uh first interactions with
the with the with the entity when you were eight
years old. And that happens throughout the Sasquatch world. And
when you have when you when you have that, when
you have that when you're young, it seems to last
the rest of your lifetime. And uh, well, let's start there.

(08:50):
Let's start out what happened at eight years old, and
then we'll move on from there, and then it will
show the progression just like other folks.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Sure, we'll do it chronologically. Not a problem, my friends like. So,
we had to move from We moved around a lot.
And when I was a kid and my dad had
to change job. So and this one time in the
summer of nineteen eighty eight, we had to move. So
I was born in eighty I am now forty five.
You do the math. We moved there and it was

(09:17):
a row home on three thirty seven South Fulton Avenue, Baltimore, Maryland.
You can look it up on the map, So three
thirty seven South Fulton Avenue, Baltimore, Maryland. And so it
was a row home. You when you go up the steps,
the steps came up sideways into row home. So the

(09:38):
front room is to the left, that's to the front
of the house. That's where my grandmother and her husband slept.
Then you have to walk through two rooms with no hallways,
so we actually actually literally go through the rooms with
doors to get to the bathroom, which was behind the
second room. So it's one to the left, one two bathroom.
So me and my sister I was eight, she was

(10:00):
seven if it's in the summer June sixth or seven,
and every not all the time, but it always happened
when my older half sister came and she was like
thirteen at the time, five years old, yeah, so that
makes sense, thirteen, and it seemed that every time she came,
like just weird things would happen. And I also think

(10:22):
this house was also kind of haunted. My grandmother did
tell me some stories later in life. But so we
were in this room trying to go to bed. It
is very hot. We had no air conditioning back then,
and so it's a room you go in. The door
swings into the room into the left on the wall
that's adjacent to the house next to us, and then

(10:42):
the room just kind of goes off to the right
there's a bed right there on your right. That's where
they stayed, and I stayed on another bed across the
room on the left side, and things just started happening.
We try to go to bed, and then like the
lights would literally flick off and on, and I thought
my oldest sister was playing with me, and I looked
over and she was still in the bed. So we're screaming,

(11:04):
and you know, we're like, what is going on? And
then my parents are yelling up the steps, like, you know,
stop playing, go to bed. Then we were okay, and
then it kind of stopped for a second, and then
these are a couple a couple of them amalcamated into one.
I don't remember exactly how it all went night per night,
but at least three to four occasions has happened on

(11:25):
the weekends. That's when my mother had custody of her
and uh so, I don't know if it's the same
night or another night. We were there and then we
had a bunch of shoes on the wall where the
sort of door swung open. Then there was some shoes,
so it would be like I had two pairs my girl.
You know, sisters had three or four pairs apiece, and

(11:45):
these shoes literally started flying off the floor and hitting
us in the bed. And I seen them like crawled
up and screaming and getting hit and I'm getting hit
my little sister. Uh, I dig what's going on. I'm
picking what you're putting down, mister Vararex. And yeah, uh
so my little sister, who was the brave one, I

(12:07):
was the least brave of all them, for for real,
for real. And she goes down the steps and tells them, hey,
there's some crazy stuff going on, get out of here whatever,
go back to bed. They come. We kind of dies
down again the action. She comes back in the bed.
So I'm laying in my bed, I got the sheets
pulled up to you know, to my nose, just looking
out at the top and Chris, something reached up between

(12:31):
the bed and the wall. So there's like, you know,
about a four inch space and something it felt like
something reached up and put its hand on my chest. Dude,
I swear I jumped out of the bed and I'm screaming,
you know, and my uh my little sister's like, you
know what's going on. I'm like something touched me. And
then she runs down the steps again, and I'm standing

(12:53):
in the middle of the room and I kind of
you know, and then my little older sister's like, oh,
I don't know what we're going to do, and this
is crazy. My little sister gets sent back up the
steps again. So I'm in this room. The door swings
into the room, so it swings into my right. The
beds are to my left now because I'm looking out.
She comes up the steps, comes in through the first room,

(13:14):
and as I say to her, so what did they say,
the door slammed in her face. It swung past my
face and slammed in her face. And I just froze. People.
You know, people like to say fight or flight, but
it's really fight, flight or freeze. And I froze because
it was the scariest, to this day, the scariest damn
thing that's ever happened to me. And so she opens

(13:36):
the door and asks me, you know, did you slam
the door in my face? And I said no, no,
and then she kind of spun me around like you
know Weeken at Bernie's and kind of just like walked
me back to my bed and then put me in
the bed. And then my older sister like you want
me to put the sheet on it. Yes, tucked me
in and and then I kept feeling like it felt

(13:59):
like some kind of a breeze was blowing through the
blanket and like ripples and and it was just it
was very frightening. And uh, in the room adjacent later
and so they kind of stopped only when she was
there too, which I later realized has a lot to
do with adolescent women, uh, you know, going to you know,

(14:19):
into into puberty. And I didn't know it at the time.
We all didn't know, but she was having some real
bad issues somewhere else. Awful as that may be, but
it's part of this from what I've learned. But one time,
we're playing Hiding the Seek in this house and in
the front room we would hide in the closet. And
I do remember one time seeing when when people talk

(14:40):
to me about this and asked me to speak because
normally I'm in your seat, things come up and I
remember distinctively sitting in there and there's like a shadow,
like the where the door light came in, there's a shadow,
and some shadow kind of came up and then it
disappeared into the wall, and that scared me too. But uh, yeah,
that that house. My grandmother told me she would sit

(15:04):
across the street at I can't think of her name,
Miss something. I can't remember her name now, and she
was sitting there she told me that one day. This
is years later, because I told her, no one believed me,
other than my other sisters. They still I have my
sister on my podcast a long long time ago, two
years ago. I can't get her back on because she
doesn't want to come on camera. And she collaborated my

(15:26):
story and Miss Brooks was her name. And my grandmother
was sitting on Miss Brooks's steps across it's like a
two or three lane one lane one direction road coming
out of the north of the city down going out
into the suburbs, and she told me that she's seen
a woman like draped in black cloth, like walking through

(15:49):
the houses, and so like, you never told me that
she goes you were eight. I couldn't tell you. You know,
this is too scary. And so to this day, my
dad still doesn't believe me. He's in the seventies. My
mom kind of believes me, but my two sisters we
stick to our story, and we're now in our forties.
So you know, the jokes on them. Hey, what's up Ashes?

(16:10):
Thank you buddy.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
So, Tom, was there a certain room in that house
that you didn't want to go in? Because when I
was a child, I had the same experiences with a
ghost in the house that I lived, and I would never,
never want to go in the basement, never ever could
get me in the base Was there a room in
the house like.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
That, that room where all that happened? I actually we
actually made our parents switch rooms with us, and they
didn't want to switch rooms because we'd have to walk
through there to get to the bathroom. And then you know,
the parents, they want to do parents stuff, and so
I remember, I don't know my mom was I think
while we're still living there, or maybe later when we

(16:47):
moved to another house. She said to me, Yeah, I
always felt like something was staring at me in there,
and I could never put my finger on it. So
it's a it was that room, that back room before
the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
How long did it last for in this house? How
long did this activity go on for?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
About?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Just like in the summertime, So we were there from
I don't know, may this is this is the same? No,
maybe longer? Damn, My uncle died. My uncle died in
eighty nine. I think so maybe a year, but it
only happened in eighty eight, and that's because my mother
kind of lost custody. Was only when my older half

(17:25):
sister would come over. So maybe I don't know, maybe
three months, maybe four or five times it happened. I'm
a three four or five times something like that, but
definitely multiple times.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Is she one of the ones that'll openly talk about
what happened your half sister?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
We don't have the relationship that we want, so we
I kind of keep my distance. She keeps har Me
and my younger sister have a great relationship, my full
blood sister, and she has a relationship with my half
sister a little bit because I've been all over the
world and I just couldn't keep up with her. She
kind of did her own thing in her life, and

(18:03):
she tells me, yeah, she's oh my sister, man, she's
got some stories. Bro. When something chased it at in
my half sister's house she was with her husband, chased
her up the steps into their bedroom and then slammed
the door behind her as she ran into the room.
So my sister, her whole life was has been seeing
things and my older sister, so it's all three of us.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Your half sister sounds like she's got something.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
She's got she's got something. Yeah, man, she got she
does have some demons, bro, like for real, Like we
don't talk about it, but you know what I mean,
something going on, got issues?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, gotcha? So how long at how long did you
live in this house for afterwards? After that? And I
did it follow you through your younger years?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
And no, we moved. I moved in from there to
twenty one to twelve Wilkins Avenue, which is about o
dout of six blocks away on a different road, and
I lived there for from uh the end of eighty eight. Yeah,
now exactly now it's making sense, right, bumblade. When I
was that's right, we were. We just moved and I

(19:08):
had I remember being there when I heard about it
is because my parents took me to my grandmother's house
that day when my uncle got hit by a car,
and that's why I heard it. That's why my memory
is a little flogged. You know. We moved right before
the beginning of the school year, so that's September to
another house and I I never had any problems in

(19:28):
that house. No, no, in the next one. So it
was maybe three four months where things were happening at
this at this place.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Okay, so when's the next time it came back? Because
now now this happens again in all aspects like the
Squatch world and everything. You had this interaction when you're young,
and then it progressed. Me kind of like forget about it.
You know, most not everybody, but some most people forget
about what happens, like the ghosting that when I was young.
I didn't really pay attention to it after we moved

(19:59):
out of this one house because it didn't really happen again,
but it happened periodically over the over the years. You'd
get little tidbits and I would never even think about it,
you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
There's things that there's I remember. We were so still
freaked out. I moved to Pennsylvania and the end of
ninety two, so from eighty eight till ninety two we
lived in Wilcomes Avenue twenty one twelve two one one two. Rush.
I'm a big Rush friend. Thank you Steve and Steve Wolf.
It was an awesome reference. And we moved to Pennsylvania

(20:34):
and I remember we lived in this very old house
that they literally had to go in the basement and
jack up because it was slouching in the middle. And
I remember like the wind was blowing the door in
the house, that it was squeaking, and I was freaked
out of my dad's like, this is just the door blowing.
So it affected me years after this, years after this,
And there was nothing wrong with that house. It's just
the effects lingered over psychologically. And I don't think a

(20:58):
lot of parents listened to their children, and that's something
I want to like bring to the forefront a little bit.
I don't understand why, you know, because there's kids who
can tell you about past lives. You know, I used
to live here, and they drive them to the town.
They're like, yeah, this is Mary and Bill. It's freaking crazy. Uh,
you need to take them seriously at least a little bit,
and not just yell at them. It was. It was
ridiculous so that both of those at the same time.

(21:20):
Something's happening that's completely, you know, abnormal, And then your
parents are just yelling at you and you're you're young.
It's not good for you.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
I agree with you. Does any you or your your
sisters or anything, have any like psychic abilities. Have you
ever been anybody approached on any of that or are you.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
The only thing I know about myself is that I'm
extremely empathetic, almost to a fault. Where if a person
is like, has bad like vibes and shit, like they're
just kind of grumpy and just you can feel it,
I just get away from them. And then I'm really
drawn to people that are really cool, and I'm drawn
to people who need help, you know what I mean.
If I see someone who's like struggling, you know up here,

(22:02):
I'll talk to him, be like, hey, man, you know
there's you know, there's there's God. You can pray, you
can meditate, you can do a many exercise, But like
psychic abilities, I don't know, man. I mean, if I
get stoned, you can I could probably think of something,
that's for sure. I've been to places doing that through
meditation and things. But to say that I'm psychic.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Now, okay, okay, there was a question here. It was
a good question right here, but next to you asked
did your did your have sister ever come to that
new house?

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yes, but she was that was later like she would
come on the weekends later, and she then had a boyfriend.
His name was Paul. I actually remember that, and she
was like maybe fifteen sixteen. But so nothing but nothing
really happened in that that I remember in that house. No,

(22:57):
that house was okay. That house was okay, I remember
very finally, actually.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
So where did it? Where did it go next? From
when you're eight years old, you're having all these interactions.
You had this little politic ice stuff at the house.
When did it what did it appear again? When did
it come back?

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Something really weird happened to my sister. She she always
had issues. So we would always move a lot, like
I was saying, and every house we went to, for
some reason, being the older brother, I got the pick
of the bigger room. So when we moved to Kerry
Street after living in Pennsylvania and a couple other places.
So I was about thirteen, yeah, she was twelve and

(23:34):
thirteen fourteen yeh ninety four, went in eighth grade, Yeah,
something like that, something like thirteen fourteen. She told me
one night, So she had the bigger room and my
room was the little one in the back. And it's
like the back was split into two parts. One part
of the bathroom part of the room, but I can.
I had a view of the alley in Baltimore, which
is very beautiful to look at. And I remember one

(23:57):
that she goes, she comes running in my room. She goes,
are you calling my name? I got no, She goes,
can I sleep in a year with you? Yeah? So
she climbed my younger sister. I'm thirteen, she's twelve, and
she slept in the bedroom because something with my voice
was mimicking my voice calling her name and here going Jenny, Jenny,
And she goes, what And I'm like, I didn't say anything,

(24:19):
So that happened. That happened, So I forgot about that.
You asked me to write this stuff down, so that happened,
But me personally, I have it. I didn't have anything
that I noticed until I was, you know, after the military.
I joined the military with ninety eight when I was eighteen,

(24:41):
and I left out in two thousand and two. So
I did a four year stint and I moved to
Germany in two thousand and two the end of it October,
and I started a band, and I think it was
two thousand and four or five. We you know, we
had enough songs down and Mike A. Harrest was leaving

(25:01):
to go do an apprenticeship at BASF in New Jersey.
So he he's studied in BASF in Germany, which is
where it begins, where it starts. It's kind of like
Dow but of Germany. And he had to go over
for an apprenticeship. So we're like, hey, let's go to
this practice room where we you know, we always practice
our practice room, and let's rent some microphones for the weekend.

(25:21):
Let's go ahead and get all these songs down that
we write on a big metal head. And we're like, okay,
so we'll work to the whole weekend trying to get
this down. So we're in this room and we got
a mic set up and we're practicing, and it's like,
I think, Saturday night. So I'm sitting there in this
old room. It's called the Power Tower. This building survived

(25:43):
the World War Two. I would just say the bombardment,
because the Americans bombed this city in Germany. It's called Mannheim,
and they bombed like some of the factories and this
is the factory area. But this is one of the
ones that did survive. And it's uh, kind of a
weird building. So it's like four floors of you know,

(26:03):
just rock and roll and metal and hip hop and
all kinds of things. So we you had to go
to the third floor, get out of the main hallway,
go through this hallway to get to my room. And
it had like some fire doors, you know what I mean,
to keep the fire and it had like what do
they call that, this vegel's meda that's German lights, sensors

(26:27):
like light like what you called them when the lights started,
like sensors for the lights. And you go to the
end of this hall then you make it right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and uh, and then you make another right and that's
my room. And then if you keep going straight instead
of making right right, it goes to a fire escape
out of the back. So we're sitting in there, we're jamming,
we're tired, I got a beard. We're sitting there on

(26:50):
the couch and I'm looking out into this hallway and
there's this like the doors open. The hallway is dark.
There's nobody in the building, right, and the door is open,
and so you can see like the light shining out
of the room into the hall but not in a
square but at an angle, if you know, what I mean,
like it's like a rumbus kind of shape, if you

(27:10):
know what I mean. And we're just you know, talking
shit and chewing a rag and hanging out whatever. And uh,
I hear like one of the doors open that on
the long hallway right the fire doors, and I'm like, eh,
you know, there's probably someone in here. You know, there's
some there's people who like you know, there's other bands,
there's people who mix and master music and stuff. I

(27:31):
ain't think nothing of it. I'm hearing footsteps, i mean
clack clack, like real footsteps. I'm like, I'm not thinking
anything of it, no big deal. And then like three minutes,
I'm not hearing any of the doors close to our
room open. That's because you would hear them someone unlocking
a door and walking into their room. I'm not hearing
any of this. So at that time I think that

(27:53):
I look over to that doorframe with the light shining through,
and I swear to God Chris with it. It was
like like thousand thousand two, like that speed of time.
I seen this black figure with a hat. It was
so tall that the brim of the hat was just
below the top of the doorframe, so it was like,

(28:13):
here's the top of the doorframe, and the brim and
the hat would be here, and you would so you
could see it go up and you start to see
the curve just a little bit, and it looked like
it was wearing an overcoat, and it's just passed in
front of the door. I'm staring at this, like what
the hell was that? I get up and my bandmates
recognize because they're staring at me, sitting on another couch

(28:36):
or chairs or whatever, and they're like, what's going on,
you know? And I go, I don't know. I've just
seen something. I stand up, I walk over to the door.
I look to the right because that's where it went,
and see if someone opened the fire door, because I
didn't hear it opened for the fire escape that goes
it's a back stairwell basically, and no door. Nobody in

(28:56):
the corner, look left, look right, nothing. They go, what
did you see? And I told him And then I
didn't know what that was called until literally four years
ago when I came to Mexico and I started my
own show and I was doing with another gentleman and
he said, well, you know what kind of experience? I
told him this when he goes, oh, dude, that's a hat. Man.

(29:17):
I looked it up on the internet and I go,
that's exactly what I saw, but with no red eyes.
It was blacker. It almost looked like a like a
paper cutout, you know what I mean. It was so strange, man,
it was just the weirdest thing.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Well, what kind of So I had to do some
research on it because I'm new to all this paranormal
end of the stuff and the different the different entities
and all that. And I had to call my my
my Google is al al Santa Rica.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yes, he is also my Google.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yes, And I said, al hat man, help me out.
What what's the hat? Many shadow figure? Where's a hat?
Could be a cowboy hat, could be a federo hat?
What kind of hat was was this this entity wearing? What?
What kind of hat did you have? Did it have?

Speaker 4 (30:04):
The best way I could describe it is, uh, have
you ever I don't know, you're you're you're you're you're
an older gentleman like myself. Have you ever seen like
the old show? I don't know if it was in
the nineties or early two thousands. It was yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,
I'm twenty seven myself. Yeah, I'm with you, dude. And
you ever seen that? It was called spy versus spy.

(30:27):
It was like, oh yeah, the two guys, yeah, ones
black and ones white, and they were it looked like
that hat. It looked like that hat.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Did it have a point face like the like the
old dose No doctors used to wear with the mask
remember during the plague.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
No, all the death masks where they would put like
roses and and yeah, no, no, it didn't have the
point you know, is it was just it was just
that form with the head with the hat with like
whatever I think they call it a duster, That's what
it looked like.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
And it just.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
It was the weirdest shit and it was real. Man,
I saw that shit, So what is that? Yeah? It
was crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I'm sorry, No, I was just wondering. Is that native
to Germany? I don't I'm you know, I've never been
to Germany. I don't know what they wear. Would that
be something like a residual haunt? Was something they were
Germany from a boy or something? Or it was probably
just its own entity. Then I know a.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Little bit about German history. I know the unification under
Venifon Bismarck was in the eighteen hundreds, and you know,
you can look through you know, Prussian history, World War
one and two, and there there might be something kind
of like that, but it would be more like if
you look at the New York New York, you know
times in the nineteen twenties where they wear the smaller
you know, like Derby hat derby, Derby derby, one of

(31:46):
those words. But I don't think there's anything that would
be like dressed like that, or there might be some
strange individual, but you have to yeah, it's hat man, dude, exactly.
Was it a duster or cape? I would say it's
more of a duster, Thank you. Al Is that an
album as somebody Else? Yeah, that's as somebody Else. Yeah, Yeah,

(32:10):
it was more of a duster. It wasn't a cape
because it was just solid. You didn't see it moving
in the wind. But it just looked like a kind
of like something like like uh hmm, kind of like
a Cruella de Ville but like just completely black and
like just kind of walked past. He didn't see it
sway or anything like that, or at least I didn't

(32:30):
see it, or at least I wasn't paying attention enough.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
I'm picturing Josie Whale's all blacked out.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Okay, that's Buffalo Bill.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
All blacked out. That's what I'm But it's been seen
a lot of places.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I was talking to a gentleman who actually seen it
outside underneath a lamppost in the field, so and that
was weird. I've never heard of them being outside before.
Mostly they're inside.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
And then I did a little more research on it
after I talked out and girl, most they're seen around
lots of death, the places I've had death, you know,
like obviously now this building that you're there was bombings there.
You know, people died, So they are around a lot
a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Great point. Yeah, great point, dude. I never I'm just
like looking at the pictures, going that's what I saw.
And then I show my girlfriend. She goes, oh my god,
you saw that. I'm like, yeah, I've seen this thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
So do you think if you didn't have your experiences
when you were younger and in an experience what you did,
do you think you would have thought twice about seeing
that thing or you would have just shrugged it off
as a just a just a regular No.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I would say no, only because of my uh my
military training. You know, I'm always kind of looking out
and uh, you know, it comes in handy being here
in Mexico. I mean, this play, this part of Mexico
is very safe. Hopefully it stays that way. But I'm always,
you know, always checking my six uh looking out the
corner of my eye and just kind of like surveilling

(33:59):
this around. So I would have seen it. But even then,
like I said, what I seen, It didn't scare me,
It didn't freak me out. I was just like, what
the hell was that? You know? What am I seeing?
So I literally just kind of been looked. I thought
it was somebody messing with me. Like, you know, I
don't know what it was, man, But I saw that
damn thing, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Did you ever see it again? Why you had your band?
How long did a band stay there?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
The oh we end up moving somewhere else. We weren't
there that long, maybe six months we were there and
we ended up moving. I can't even remember what the
hell we moved to. Where the hell did we move to? Oh? Yeah,
we moved to another same building, but we moved upstairs
because this room we were sharing with another band. It
was a bigger room, but the one upstairs was smaller.
But we had it to ourselves, and I never seen

(34:43):
it again there. I never felt anything odd because I've
been to the room. I've been to been to this
building many many times by myself. There's other places I've
been where you can feel like, oh there's there's you know,
there's something here, but not not in that room, not
in that building. I don't know. I don't know how
to explain it, but you know, the damned these things happens.
It's that's why these shows exist, like yourself in mind

(35:05):
and many others.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
All right, the band broke up, no.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
No, no bro we went I That band lasted for
ten years. Man, you can look it up. It's called
a lamera l A M E R A type in
that the word metal and then type in Mannheim. So
m A N N H E I am, and you
will find two albums of us. It's kind of a
groovy death metal. And I'm the singer and guitarists.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
All right, cool cool, cool cool cool. So after the
hat man now and things are, of course they're going
to progress because you they're they're they're following you. You're
you're able to experience these things. And I believe myself
and this is this way I believe. I think is
that the more you experience it, the more these things
are going to open up to you because they know,

(35:52):
they sense that you can see them, They that you
can be what I think. They can see the light,
they can see your inner light, they can see your aura.
I think they're attracted to that, and I think they
know the ones to go to. And I just this
is how I feel. I've had the happen my whole life. Now.
Oh okay, so after this, where does it go from here?

(36:14):
Where were you after the after the hat man and
all that? What's the next the next step?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah? I kind of like just lived my time in Germany.
I did the band thing, I had a job, and
then COVID came along and I was anti everything they
were trying to do to me. I'm a freedom of
speech for me is paramount, the freedom to do what
I want to do with my body, my body, my choice, right,
Okay guys? And and I just me and my ex wife,
we weren't having none of it. She was even stronger

(36:42):
than I was. I kind of teed her for a
second and she was like, no time, don't do that.
And I was like all right, man, and we just
pulled up steaks.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Man.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I gave up everything, you know, a full time paying job,
thirty days vacation, healthcare, dental care, UH, surfing equipment, band
equipment and everything, pulled up steaks, sold everything I could,
left most of it in my garage there, and just
moved here to the Yucatana Peninsula. The rationale behind it was,
if they ever try to pull that shit again, I'm

(37:10):
going to be in the forest with a rifle and
I can get my own food and grow my own
stuff here in the tropics. And so we ended up.
When we came here, we rented a house for a year,
because that's the contract was for a year. But in
that time we were searching for property and we ended
up buying property about a half hour outside of town.

(37:30):
So you know, I enjoy looking at the sky and stargazing,
so that's cool. It's very black out there, so we
ended up buying ten acres. We found a place and
there's a lot of red tape to go through, so
we cut into this property. It used to be a
former goat field for this guy, so they have a

(37:50):
place to eat and stuff and then use them for meat.
So we cut into it. I built basically, just like
you know, a little little house. I literally took logs.
I literally cut them with a chainsaw, painted them, you know,
like with tar, dug in the ground as far as
I could, stuffed them in there, got them as level
as I could, and built myself some kind of a

(38:10):
place to sleep because I didn't have much time left
on my one year contract when I found it. So
one night, this place is it's wild. Okay, So there's
a thing down here in the Yukaten. There's this place
is very very spooky. Just to give us some background,
the Yukatan is no Stowe in Mexico. That's not true.

(38:31):
There's places, there's certain mountains. This place is former Mayan territory,
so and it's still Mayan. There's still I would say
thirty thirty five percent of the people here speak Mayan,
and maybe twenty percent of them only speak Mayan and
some of these towents. So the Mayan people are still here,

(38:52):
and there is an entity that they create to protect
their corn. So corn originally Mexico guys popcorn, all that stuff,
you know, it's called mais in Spanish. So they they
do a ritual here that the Mayans did a ritual here.

(39:12):
And I learned this from a person who knows about
it because his whole family is into this stuff. They're
like kind of which people kind of and they know
a lot about kind of things. And I can't think
of a word for it now, but it's kind of
like if you want to put a curse on somebody,
they can do that for you kind of thing. And
he told me. I had him on my show. His
name is Moisus. He now lives in a different part

(39:34):
of Mexico, near closer to Texas now, and he was
telling me because he spoke English, and I tried to
do that. I try to get a lot a lot
of people have a lot of stories here. And he
told me there's a ritual what they do to protect
their property. And this ritual is a seven day ritual.
They they make like a little figure out of like

(39:55):
corn mixed with mud, mixed with blood, and they do
like this ritual. I can't remember if it's over a
few weeks or over seven days. It's either seven weeks
or seven days. I can't remember that part. But they
do these rituals and on the seventh day they offer
it like corn and food and stuff. And on the
seventh day this thing disappears. And this is what is

(40:17):
known here as a lucius. Look it up, guys, it's
a real thing. Yeah, bruja exactly, which female witch. Bruho
is a male witch, which is also uh yeah, thank you,
thank you exactly men x fifty eight thirteen. And there's
also they also call wizards. They also call them witches
here too in Spanish colloquially that word colloquially there it is.

(40:42):
And so these things are called a lucias they are
a cherup. So basically like if you think about Cupid.
So they got the you know, like they got a
little fanny on them. They kind of chubby, they're kind
of like a mini Buddha. They are kind of naked.
They're brown skinned. They're two and a half three foot tall,
and they protect the property. Now, the Mayan civilization is

(41:04):
civilization as we know it is now gone. The pyramids
are still here. I've been to a few of them
and they are oo, they're very spooky. There's one on
one in the woods. It's about forty minutes away. It's
called akanmu so ac a n m u l So
you guys can look it up. It's kind of off
the beaten path. There's the stones. They took some of

(41:27):
the stones off the pyramids to make a church nearby
that has bones in the floor, which I've also visited.
And I've seen a Satanic symbol there, which is the
star but with the point at the top, so which
is very weird in Mexico because people are so poor,
they would never get spray paint, to spray paint on
the wall without any purpose, So that's definitely witchcraft for sure.

(41:49):
So I saw that and I got the hell out
of there. But so these things, they protect the property,
and how do they do that? They freak you out,
they'd scare you. I've talked to people. I talked to
a mechanic here who was working on my car. He's
a hunter and he was showing me, you know, his deer,
and I asked him about these things and he goes, yeah,
anytime you're near a hill, so there's like a hilly

(42:11):
area here where I am, you'll get rockstrown at you.
Or I've heard of people who've seen them. Right, there's
a story bro that I heard two gentlemen lived in
a city. Here, it's an area of the city where
they have larger pieces of property. So it goes back
maybe I don't know, maybe two hundred feet and maybe
one hundred feet wide, and there's still like some jungle

(42:32):
in there, but it's fenced off in the back, and
there's a lot of caves here. It's the Yucatan Peninsula
is like a limestone outcrop, so it's limestone also has
a lot of electricity quartz type value to it, but
quarts is more concentrated, but here it's kind of like everywhere,
but not as concentrated. So they kept hearing something, right,

(42:53):
And so this is a guy that I worked with
and his uncle and his friend is an uncle's property.
They go, they kept hearing something. They're having some cigarette,
smoking some beer on a Friday night, just hanging out
in the yard. And he goes, let me show you something.
He goes, what do you mean. It takes a little cup,
little cup right, puts a little bit of beer in there,
puts it near where they heard it, put a cigarette out,

(43:16):
lit it, put it on the ground. He said, one
of these things came out, drank the beer, smoked a
cigarette and the dude took off running. And here's what happens. Supposedly,
when you see one of these things, you get sick.
They call it male Viento's bad winds if you go

(43:37):
or evil winds better, probably better said, if you go
into the caves. There's people who will get like a
they'll get a creak in their neck, or they'll get
a fever that will last for three or four days,
and sometimes they actually perish, you know. So he's seeing
this thing, freaked out, got a fever, never went back
to the property again. So I'm setting this up to

(43:58):
tell you about this property. I thought, okay, so it's
about two now, it's a kilometer off the road, so
what is that zero point eight miles something like that.
It's through a lot of mud, especially in the rainy
seasons which just passed. Yeah, come on down, Francisco. You
can come on down. I'll hope you up at a
hotel and you can come chill out with me. We'll
have a beer. It's really cool here, very nice part

(44:20):
of Mexico. Very hot, but very cool, very cool. At
the same people here are very very very friendly, and
so I bought this property. It's way back in the woods.
So these entities do not know that their masters are
no longer there. So I built that house. Like I
was saying, me and my daughter, who's here with me. Now,

(44:42):
we were roasting marshmallows. We got this place. We're just
hanging out, and they he said that the rocks is
thrown at you. I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, Chris,
this freaking rock comes humming through the trees and hits
branches behind me, and there's nobody out there. Bro, this
is in the middle of nowhere, dude, And I said, uh,

(45:02):
I said, audios Audio, my audio, My audio bad. Well, okay, hello,
all right, maybe there's somebody else's I shouldn't be reading
the comments. That's your job.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Audio too. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Later, do I uh yeah, So I just kind of
freaked out for a second. But she's like five, my daughter,
and I was.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Like, there's a guy named audio.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Audio is a pretty high audio.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Sorry, brot a club in the chat room. You know,
they're not really listening to us.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
It's fun, nonetheless, dude, And yes.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
I fat I'm sorry. They're great. I'm joking.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
It's all good, guys. Good guys. You have a very
lively chat over there. It's very friendly. You guys are
an awesome community. Glad to be here, honestly, seriously, and
you have to say you'll have the same come over
to that and Jupiter, guys, you come on over and
you can talk with us too. I got a great,
great group of people over there trying to combine forces.
And yeah. So I go in the house and we

(46:10):
just go to sleep. So so this house I built
an outside area. All right, this is the first thing
a rocket thrown at me. So I'm a little freaked out.
This house has an outside area, and I screened mosquito
screen it in Chris very important.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Here.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
There's five different species that I know alone. Of some
mosquitoes down here. There's a big black one, a little
black one, a little tiny black one. One it looks
like a tiger. It's got like stripes on it. And
one that is yellow. And that's the one that has
like a yellow fever malaria. I gotta be very careful,
so a lot of offspray and a lot of hiding
behind mosquito nets. So we're in there. I sleep in

(46:50):
a hammock. I always sleep in a hammock because of
my bad back, and they're super comfortable, not to kind
with a stretcher on the top, but it's kind of
like a like a like a peapod, and you Leah
knows it, and they're super comfortable. I can sleep six
seven hours, no problem. So we're sleeping in the hammock.
My daughter has hers. I'm sleeping in mind. We're both
outside together. You know, we're living in life, basically retired,

(47:13):
poor as can be, but we are free. You know,
they're never gonna tell me what to do again. And
I get up to go to bathroom. Chris three in
the morning, oddly enough, the witching hour, and now I
know that too, go to bathroom. I get back on
my hammock, and I'm bound to go to sleep. And
then I swear, dude in my left ear, which is
also one of those things. I hear this, This is

(47:34):
what I hear, Dude. I hear like this, and I literally, dude,
I just threw a punch, Like what is that, dude,
you know, and there's nobody there, no something. I could
feel the breath in my ear. I can feel like
my ear drone being like hit in like the little
hair is in there. Yeah, dude, go check it out, dude,

(47:55):
not the eyes, the eye close enough, no s. Yeah.
So that was one night and then I put this
addition on on the the house because we wanted to
build like a shower and a little bigger area that
you know, to hang out in, and so I put

(48:17):
my hammock in there. And it's this long sweeping lines
that I had. I'm sorry, this long sleeping line. And
then my daughter is kind of catty corner away from me,
about maybe fifteen twenty feet in the older section where
we were sleeping together. And so I get up one
night to go to the bathroom. And I'm not trying
to be a cool guy or anything, this is just
the truth. In the bathroom, it was a snake and

(48:39):
it was eating bugs. It was sitting on this log,
on these logs that I was putting in, and it
was hanging there on the logs and there's a lot
of ants here and it's just eating these ants. And
I was like, well, I can't go back to sleep
with the snake there. So I had to, you know,
take it out and with a machete. Very important, guys,
don't do it with the sharp end. Do with the
doll end and make sure the snake is facing you. Okay,

(49:00):
these are things I learned from my Mexican the guy
I bought the property from, who still owns a piece
next to me. Anyhow I do that. I'm laying back
in the hammock and then for some reason, I kind
of like just opened my eyes and I look above
my daughter and there's this Chris, I'm telling you, there
was this white, bluish white light that looks like someone
shines a flashlight through like a fish tank, but not

(49:22):
super distinct on the edges about the size of I
don't know, a little bit bigger than the softball. And
it was on the ceiling above my daughter, and it
was kind of moving a little bit, and I'm like,
you know, I'm just so, what is that? And then
I go to look to see if it's like a
flashlight or something, you know, to try to rationalize, rationalize it.
That's kind of what we do. And I was looking

(49:42):
for the source and I look down. I don't see
any source. I look back up and it was gone, Okay,
that's freaking weird. Then about I swear a week later,
same thing. I get up to go to the bathroom, and
the bathroom is close by. I get back to my
thing and I look so that there's no door on

(50:02):
it yet, because like I said, I'm still under construction,
and I'm laying in the hammock, and I look over
to my right. This is where the snake was and
where this light was, and I see this light instead
of being on the ceiling now it's on the wall.
And it looks exactly the same. It's kind of bluish,
it doesn't have a really defined edge. It's moving. Same
thing what does that come from? Disappears and then shortly

(50:25):
after that, behind me out in the jungle, about maybe
twenty thirty yards, you know, past the mosquito net. I'm
hearing this voice again. Now. To describe the voice, I
already did it, so you know what. It kind of
sounds like. It's feminine. It's not German, it's not why
would it be German? But it's not German. It's not English,

(50:46):
it's not Spanish. I've heard may end before. But it's similar,
I guess you would say, but it's none of the
syntax I would recognize. And I just and I'm not
just you know, thank you so much. Octapus I'm not
like a I'm a man of God. You know, I'm
not a Christian, I'm not a Muslim. I'm just a

(51:07):
man of God. And kind of, you know, I dig Jesus.
I think he's a cool cat and all that cool stuff,
and there's a lot of things that I like about
what he does. But and I also know that this
the name holds power when you're in a situation. And
I was quite frightened because I'm hearing this voice and
it's kind of like just messing with me. And I
just said, you know, in the name of Jesus, you know,

(51:27):
I don't want you to be here no more. And
you can stay here, but you're not allowed to bother
my family. And then there's like some hills up behind
my or my property, and I went up there, and
there is a there is possibly I can either confirm
or deny mayan ruins on my property and near that
I don't go in there. It's a circle possibly I

(51:48):
can either confirm or deny, and I don't walk in there.
And I just said, hey, once again, you know my
intention here. I'm here to improve the land. You guys
can protect it if you want, but just leave us alone,
and ever since then, I've had no problems with that situation.
So pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Well, here we go down, here's the here's the comparison.
Now again that I think it's it's all link Sasquatch
stone throws, stone throwing people. Do they see the Sasquatch
throwing the stones?

Speaker 4 (52:19):
That know?

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Did you see what's throwing the stones?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Orbs orbs are now being seen in Sasquatch areas and
Sasquatch investigation areas for many years. Now. Can you associate
the orbs with a Sasquatch? No you cannot. Can you
you know? Can you associate the orbs with the spirits? No?
You cannot. Are they the identity? Maybe? Who knows? Right
then you use it in the name of Jesus. People

(52:46):
have did that to the Sasquatch to drive them away
from their areas.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
To Yes, they go to the cardonal points and they
what's that called? Where they what's it called? When they, oh,
you know the word probably better than I do. When
they go to the four cardinal points and they say
the name of Christ, I you know, I can't think
of the name of it. Someone in the chap will
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Right here on the tip of my tongue.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
And yeah, it's one of those words. And yeah, please Chris,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
But anyway, so now, thank you, rebuke, thank you in
the name there we go. Thank you, Diane, Diane Fowler Is.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
It's all on fire tonight. Good job, Steve.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
She's good to have in your your your chat room
and everything. She's a great lady.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
She's in every chat room, she's everywhere. She's she's come
on over.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
You can come over and help help help me on
my side. I can always use an extra cool mod
if you want to come over, I'll wear you on.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
But now, once again, the similarities. It's all together, it's
all in the same, it's all in the same little ball,
and it's all packed in there in it. But you
can't say one thing is one thing and one thing
is the other because you really don't know, and if
you're not and if you're not seeing what's doing it,
and you really sure as hell don't know. And you know,

(54:04):
I've had stones shown at me a lot. Never saw
what did it ever? Really well in the forest, I've
had a lot. I got them on tape, I've got
them like a lot. And uh, it's just it's just
the similarities of this all together. And I just I
just that's where I think it's all going. And uh,

(54:27):
just the way you you you explained it, it just
it reminded me of someone can tell the same exact story,
but they could be talking about a sasquatch.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of over overlapping magisteria, you know
what I mean. It's not just I mean, if you
you'll you'll hear people talk about sasquatch and then if
you like look and start like just in that area
within a ten kilometer radius, you'll hear a lot of
things about UFO sightings, abductions, uh, poltergeist activity. It's there's
something weird and it seems to be electro magnetic for

(54:56):
some reason. I don't know what that is, but it's
it's just the the damnedest thing, man. I agree with you, buddy.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
Frequencies And now the Mayans. The Mayans were big, and
the frequencies those big pyramids. You go inside and they
ring bell I forgot what it was. I saw a
show and they were ringing bells or something inside and
it was echoing, it was vibrating throughout the whole inside
of the pyramid, or they were hitting the stone or
something on the top of the pyramid.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
I was, I would take place an hour away. You
guys can look this up. What is it called ed'sna
eed z na edsna And it's weird. So you go there.
It's like I said, hour away, and it's on this platform,
so it's up a little bit. And then there's these
pyramids on the sides, and the big one is in
the back and it's about one hundred feet up in
the air. Old mind sight, it's very old. And you

(55:44):
could stand on one side of it and hear people
talking on the other like everything. Oh yeah, I was yesterday.
You're like, dude, I can hear the car and they're
not yelling, just having like you and I right now.
It's they were very in tune with that.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
It's very strange, right the death whistle. They use the
death whistle and battle and to scare their enemies. And
I mean, I'm using that. I have one in my backpack.
I use it when I'm out looking for sasquatches to
see if it'll draw up something on those things.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
And I've seen they had like here's the deal. List.
That's another thing. Here is a place called Pomuch It's
a po m u c h. It's about an hour
away north and they have a cemetery there where the
actual every year around the deals we dust, which is
Halloween time, first second of November. They'll actually go in

(56:33):
there Chris take out the bones out of the cryps
and clean them up and put them on display and
put food and candles and pictures of the people. And
everyone walks around the cemetery and looks at the bones,
and the more stuff there is left behind, whether it
be hair for everyone else and other the happier they
are because that means that people want to stick around.
This place is crazy.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
I would love to get there's one day to go
down there and see this.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Come on down, guys, shit fly to Marya. It's about
two hours away. Hop on the train, take the train
into town, and then get yourself a hotel. And it's
really cool. It's called I live in a place called
compitche c a m p e c che very cool place.
Just don't be buying any houses dinner it's still pretty
nice and sheep dinner, guys, I don't want you. Yeah,

(57:20):
and no heavy drinking either. It doesn't have a beach.
The beach is thirty minutes south, and it's not that good.
It's kind of more of it's kind of more of
a historical city. It's kind of like what the pirates were,
like black Beard and all that was here, dude here
and they actually built a walled fort around the city
and it still exists today. Man, it's it's a pretty
wild place.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
The history must be incredible.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
It's really cool.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Yeah, So Tom, what do you think is going on? Well?
What do you Why do you think this is all happening?
Why do you think it is what it is? Why
do you think people are seeing spirits? Why do you
think people are having sasquatch activity? Why do you think
people are seeing these dog men?

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Now?

Speaker 5 (57:58):
What's going on? It's the number is growing? Is growing more?
Do you think it because it's more people?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
So?

Speaker 5 (58:04):
What is Tom Franklin's explanation of the weird?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
What?

Speaker 5 (58:08):
What? What? What? What do you think going on?

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I think wow, that's a wide net to throw. First
of all, I mean, if I had to take a
stab at say Cryptis, I think, uh, I think Bigfoot.
My personal opinion is just for me, uh, for me
the Patterson Gimblin film is the proof, all the proof
I need, especially when you zoom in on the right
leg when it turns back and you see those muscles wiggle.
That's all I that's it for me. That I never

(58:33):
saw that until I was talking to M. K. Davis
and he was like showing me the braid and stuff,
and I was like, oh, whoa, okay, and then I
started looking more and more into it. So I think
they're just somewhere's. Uh, you know a lot of people
think they're Nepholm or something like that. I don't really
go that. I don't really go that route. That's you know,
that's that's you can think that and we can talk

(58:54):
and that's fine. I'm open for all of that. I
think that bigfoot are basically type of you know, either
proto human or some type of superhuman that are just
in tune with the world in a way that we
can't be in tune with the world. You know. Maybe
they're infrastound kind of things where you're seeing and not

(59:15):
seeing them as the eye, the water in the eyes
vibrating and you're seeing things. Who knows what that is.
I mean, it's all open for conjecture is there more.
I think they're being put into smaller and smaller areas,
and of course then the people see them more. There's
another part of me that wants to think that they
see that we are somehow in this weird decline as

(59:38):
a as a civilization, but not in the way that's negative.
In other words, the power structures that once exist it
no longer do because of Pandora's Box, the Internet. And
now I do think that mynd calendar really happened to
twenty twelve. It wasn't. It was like a split in reality.
So the people who still follow and they're just you know,

(01:00:00):
they're always on their screen and that's all they see,
and they believe CNN and all that. I think they
went strong that way, and then everyone else kind of
woke up. So I think those people are seeing sasquatch more.
And there's people who need to see it are being seen,
you know, like so like you need to see this,
bro because you are open to it somehow. So the

(01:00:21):
Internet is also helping people, especially being in some of
these you know, in the Bible Belt and other strong
Christian communities. It was never good to speak on these
kind of things, whether it be ghosts or sasquatch or
dogmen or the other. So I think people are more
open to it now. People are seeing them more often now,

(01:00:42):
and maybe the Sasquatch are trying to get in touch
with us or in tune with us, to tell us, hey,
we're not scary monsters. We're just different than you, bro.
And I think the government knows about it, and I
think they are suppressing it because if they don't, if
they deny it, nothing happens. Okay, if they accept it,
then they will be a protected species. And then what

(01:01:04):
happens to Native Americans because they would be more native
than they are. You know, where do you draw lines
of boundaries to forest industry? Yes, has made it less
of a stigment. I agree with one hundred percent. And yeah,
there's there's there's no upside for the government to say
they exist, but they know they're out there. When it

(01:01:27):
comes to hauntings and stuff, I don't know, man, I
don't know what it is. But people are seeing a
lot of the same things and experiencing a lot of
the same things. There's a lot of decent evidence. I've
seen some really good evidence. I've seen some decent evidence
a lot of these shows really pemeo, if you know
what I mean, and they always try to make it
more than what it is. But there's people like Austin

(01:01:49):
Lawrence the Dead Chronicles. He does a really good job
of really showing what it is and taking his time
to go check out Austin shout out, but shout out
to my buddy. He's great at it. It's the thing
is being a human. I think we just want to
know and and I just want to know your story. Uh.

(01:02:09):
And we've kind of discovered all the land, unless you
believe in the ice Wall or whatever that is. I'm
not saying that I agree or disagree. I don't believe
or don't. You know, I'm not going to try to
get you shoved off for YouTube anytime soon. But basically
everything has been found and discovered basically. But there's still
the oceans and there's still things that are happening, especially

(01:02:32):
like Appalachia with large owls and witches and uh, it's
all over the world, guys. You know they have Dwinda's here.
It's it's just a mystery. And I think now we
are slowly unraveling it and culturally looking at it. And

(01:02:53):
you know a lot of Native Americans. We're also talk about,
you know, the Sasquatch. So it's just an interesting time
to be alive. Don't be afraid, especially if you have
a belief in God and you're connected with your community
and yourself, you know, and just open your heart and
just not be don't be afraid, and just look at

(01:03:14):
it objectively and you know, enjoy it. Man, go along
for the ride. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Yeah, the fairy tales are real. I just don't. I
think they didn't know how to write back then of
what was going on, so that's how they portrayed things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
You know. Yeah, great point, dude, the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Big bad wolf going to huff and puff and blow
your house down? Well, what do you think The big
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Dog man is interesting. There's like three different types, aren't there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
I don't. I don't know much about the dog man either.
I'm really this is all open book for me. All
this new stuff, the dog man and the fire and noise.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I've been hearing. I've been hearing ones that people are
saying they look more hyena like. That's the new thing
that I've been hearing. And then there's ones that look
like like Patina Malsine who looked like you remember Ike
from Tom and Jerry, but like a black one. And
then there's the ones that look like like literally like
a freaking like a huge German shepherd chays like leaning over.

(01:04:11):
And some of them, like Daryl Denton was telling me,
he's seen four times and like two of them have
been ones that appeared and then like disappeared. And then
there's ones that look more some of maybe your military experiments.
There's there's so much weirdness going on in the world
right now, but I'm enjoying it. Just sit back. Six
different types, thank you, Al, Six different types of dog men?

(01:04:32):
All right, man, go to hell, go to uh the
Bronxville Paranormal Society, and go check out my buddy Al
Santa Rico over there. He's awesome. I love that. Oh
he got us in touch, didn't he? He got me
in touch with due now I remember. God, damn, we're busy, man,
aren't we.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
There a pass night here tonight and my buddy Bud
be up. Budd isn't here. They caught some pretty crazy
footage of a dog man and UH and a plan
between the lakes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, dude, that's one of those places, man,
I mean you can go check out like, uh, I
think it's there's there's there's really good like documentaries about
that place. You know, it used to be two rivers.
So always flowing water too, guys, something with water, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Uh yeah, that's what we're playing at that new area
this year we got.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Oh I had a new please you were telling me about.
That's pretty cool, man, that's pretty cool, dude. That's dude.
So so you're looking forward to going back out there again?

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Huh yeah, I'm ready. I've I've lost my area three
years ago and now I finally got a new place
to go all the time. So I'm looking forward. But
this isn't about me, just about you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Oh no, no, no, we're talking with I just I'm
just talking bro, just what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
But I'm just it's not about it's all good. It's
all good. I'm not saying. But uh so, if you
guys got we're out. We're already have an hour and
fifteen minutes. We got fifteen minutes after everybody. If you
got questions for time, put them up in the capital.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Fire away please.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
By all means, what do you got coming up? Tom?
What's what's coming up for you this year, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Basically just continue what I'm doing. Just continue to do
what I'm doing. If the podcast takes off, you know,
I want to thank you guys. I've already I just
took a quick look over here. I already got five subs.
That's fantastic. Check it out, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
I have a lot of fie Okay, I gotta pay
for them, all right, all right, yeah, I send you Okay,
I don't think I can afford that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yeah, I mean the the plan is to continue to
do what I'm doing, to make the podcast where it
becomes my job. And when that happens, because I'm a
tutor right now, I'm an English shooter. When it becomes
my job, I plan on learning Mayan. That's the real truth.
Going out with a friend of mine, I have a

(01:06:56):
friend here who speaks Spanish and he's you know, he
can get me through some backwaters and stuff. He's a
really cool guy. I can picture his name right it,
but I can think of his name. He's the one
took me to the pyramid. I got this pyramid. You
gotta come check it out, all right, bro, let's go.
We had the drone and stuff and we went, and
I want to go out to these communities and talk

(01:07:17):
to them about things like Alusha's and Ishtabai, which is
Ishbai is like the Belwich of the Yucatan Peninsula. Okay,
but not as but different kind of like come here
into the woods and drunk guy, and the guy disappears.
She has a horse leg and a chicken leg, but
she's hot with long black hair, beautiful fair skin. And

(01:07:40):
then when you look down and see the legs, you
freak out. Look back up. She's like, you know, like
the ring or something, or like the whatever, the grudge
or something, so pretty pretty scary stuff. Yeah, just continue
what I'm doing. I mean, I want to I want
to go out to these places. I am in connection
with some guy. I have to speak Spanish better. He

(01:08:02):
is really into it. He can get me permission to
go to the cemeteries here. My girlfriend has had some
interesting things in the cemeteries. There is a picture somewhere
on YouTube video, not a YouTube video, but like a
short or something I did. And I went into these
cemeteries and there are literally people are buried on top
of each other here. There's no rhyme or reason. They're

(01:08:24):
just it's crazy. Go in there, do some ask some questions,
check it out, talk talk to the Mayas. I think
that's really going to be a cool thing. I also
want to talk to some of the construction workers who
built the train Maya. So they built a train that
kind of like so tourists can come and fly in
the Cancun and go see, you know, chichen Itza, go

(01:08:47):
to Marta, Campeche, go to Plenke and all these different
Mayan sights and travel the Yuculda Peninsula and enjoy it.
And a lot of these workers when they cut through
some of these forested areas that are just very remote,
the things that they were talking about they were seeing,
you know, like things in trees, alucious scratching like on

(01:09:09):
their like weird shit in the woods. I want to
talk to these people. And I just like Corona. Oh yeah,
that's very famous in Mexico. Like Corona. It's like the
Screaming Mother. That's very famous down here. I don't know
anything about Chop of coabber here. There's not much of
that going on. Just kind of maybe expand out. I
don't know if I'll be able to only if the

(01:09:31):
channel expands to a point that which it covers what
my tutoring is covering now. But for the most part,
just keep getting interesting guests on. If you guys want
to reach out to me and you want to talk
to me and you want to feel comfortable, that's what
I do. Man. At a lot of people are having
these encounters in the woods, whether it be Bigfoot dog
Man and I like, and they just don't know where
to go. And if you want to come on, you

(01:09:53):
can be fully you know, anonymous. We can you know,
you don't have to turn your camera on. We can
change your name and we can just talk about it.
So just reach out to me. Best way is through
my email, Theia Jupiter Podcast at gmail dot com. You
can also contact me on Facebook, Instagram, what's the other one, TikTok,
which I don't really use mostly Facebook and my email.

(01:10:17):
I have a channel, you know, you write it right
in a comment. Hey, I'd love to talk to you
either way. This has been a fun. Yeah, thank you, buddy,
and just come over and talk to me about it
and then maybe, you know, we can figure out something
together at least make you feel human again. You know,
I think a lot of people when they see this
you know, I've talked to people who hunt and fish
their whole lives. They go out in the woods, they've

(01:10:39):
never seen anything like that, and they can't go back again,
you know. And there's been at least once, maybe twice
where I've been able to help people kind of get
through that and they able to go back to do
what it is that they love, and that's enjoy the
great outdoors. So yeah, come over and check me out, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Very cool, very I'm looking forward to the mine stuff.
I just yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
There's a video over on my on my channel. You
can see it. It's not very good. I wasn't good
at like cutting it, but you can see, uh, the
actually when I went to this uh pyramid and to
the church with the bones on the floor, you can
see that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Are you able before we head out it? Are you
able to investigate those areas or do you have to
have pearl permits or do you have to do it
from the hip or.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
This particular area. I didn't have to really do anything.
My friend knew it was Carlos is his name, and
it was an old u. The first place we went
to was an old like hacienda where they were making
like uh like vines, old rope like from these plants
where they had the you see like steam power like
cast iron old ship. And then there was a church
across the road where they took the stones off the pyramids,

(01:11:46):
and then a little father down was the actual pyramids.
And it's no big deal, but they get into the
cemeteries at night. You need you need uh, you need
permission because there is UH. During the pandemic, people were
so poor here. They were going in and stealing any
metal they can find, and they were like, you know,
like basically great propping here. So it's pretty wild place, man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
I could just imagine what goes on in the jungles
in the middle of the night, way back in the
by those.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
There's animals here, dude, there's jaguar foot My daughter has
seen jaguar footprints and she took pictures of when she
was out there about maybe one hundred yards for my property.
I've seen. I had a python I've seen out there
one day that almost snuck up on my ass. That
was about I don't know, seven feet long, about I
don't know about that big around and I kept hearing
and I looked over and I've seen this coil over
a branch. Dude. It was like the Jungle Book. I

(01:12:32):
felt like Mowgli and showed the picture to my neighbor.
He goes, that's a python. Be careful, but it tastes good.
I'm like, nah, I'm cool, man, I ain't going to
do a python today. Thank you, guys, Thank you Sasquatch.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Mama, all the all the watch the human sacrifices back when,
and oh my god, that jungle must come alive.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I'm I don't think the Mayans did it as much
as the Aztec, but they weren't singing kumbaya, dude, so
they were very astrologically aligned. They like if okay, we
say the man on the moon, the Mayans, when they
look at the moon, they see a rabbit. If you
look at it, you'll see a rabbit. You'll see the
two ears, and it looks like a rabbit. So you

(01:13:15):
can see what they want. My girlfriend is actually uh Mayan.
Her mom is fool blood Mayan, and she's like Mayan
uh and uh. She has a little bit of Asian
in her two I don't know she's but she's basically Mayan.
Her mom speaks a little bit, but her grandmother was
fluent in it, and uh, I want to I want
to talk it because it's kind of dying here, but

(01:13:37):
they're starting to like go, you know, like let's make
sure we keep it and uh, it's yeah, dude. Oh
the Japanese see rabbits too. I didn't know that. That's interesting.
That's interesting. Wow, thank you for that. That was a
good piece of information. I didn't know I learned something today.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
Yeah, you learn a lot in the chat room, that's
for sure. Good people.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
All right, I appreciate I appreciate you having me on man.
I really really enjoyed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
It and I had a great time tonight. Thank you
for sharing all your stuff. And once again we've were
on we're linking this stuff together. It's linked. I mean
you just described all that stuff and then someone could
come on the show tomorrow and say the same thing
that they had a sasquatch and the whole thing. There's
something linked up. I don't know what it is. Again,
this is just my opinion. I am not the sasquatch

(01:14:21):
guru or the ghost guru or any guru at all,
just a man that's looking for some answers and I
love learning all this, So thank you again. For being here, and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Oh man, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
I'll have you back down their own again and I'll have.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
You on again. I'm sure I'll have you on again
with maybe just like a roundtable like kind of discussion
thing where we just kind of talk and just have
you on and just just shoot the breeze.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
You know, I always always enjoy having good people on
the show.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
You know it is all right, well cool, just hang
out backstage. We're gonna say good night to everybody, and
then I will I'll be right back there say good
night to you ladies. And Joe from the Ia Jupiter podcast.
Mister Tom Franklin, all right, all right, all right, what

(01:15:11):
a great show, What a great show. Tom is a
great guest. I'm glad you guys are going over there
and subbing too his channel. I am off next week.
I am on all for work. But the following week
we're going across the Pond and we are staying with
the ghost theme. We're staying with the paranormal. Mister Tommy
Cullum will be our guest in two weeks on the show,
and then it's the holidays and we will not have

(01:15:33):
a show until January thirteenth when I have the original
investigators from the Cells property in Texas. Yes, the two
original investigators from the Cellsxes property, well after thirty years.
After thirty years, oh, this is such a great show.
Are coming live on real American monsters to tell us

(01:15:56):
about what happened why at their stay at these baby
and we're gonna show some stuff. We got a whole
documentary coming on this. But the two original after thirty
years are coming live to tell their story. So we're
looking very very forward to having them. That'll be on
the thirteenth of the New year, so that'll be Tommy Cullum.

(01:16:19):
Then we're off into the thirteenth and that's how we working
off the new year. So once again, thank you all
for being so kind in the chat room. We learn
a lot from you guys. I love you guys. I
love all you in the chat You guys are the kindest,
gentlest people I know on this earth, and I love
seeing you when we're doing this. And as my friend

(01:16:41):
Larry says, get in the woods, people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Out of my.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Head, out of the best of sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
That could be dead.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Is it something that I have done? Did I lead you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
To think that it was gone?

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Designed me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I cannot be myself.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Clean so much.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Once in a while.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
I get tired of talking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
I'm good on the smile.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Let the auser e go wherever go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
These days were we show the sid Can I be
a stream myself explaining so