July 30, 2025 • 60 mins
Hello my friends and Welcome to Tuesday night on The Untold Radio Networks Real American Monsters. Tonight at 8pm est we welcomeJonathan Brown. Jonathen is an enrolled tribal member of the Chehalis Tribe, living right on the reservation in Southwest Washington. By day, Jonathan is a dedicated financial services professional, guiding people through the complexities of retirement savings and life insurance.
But there's another, more mysterious side to Jonathan's life. In 2012, his family became aware of unusual activity on their property – activity attributed to Sasquatch. The following year, Jonathan and his brother Ben captured what many consider to be the best thermal video of a Sasquatch ever recorded. And the encounters don't stop there: his wife, Sara, has also captured some of the most compelling audio recordings of Sasquatch.
Together, Jonathan and Sara share their experiences and insights on their YouTube channel, Salish Sasquatch. What started as documenting happenings on their own property has expanded to include interviews with others across the Pacific Northwest and compelling documentaries. Through their incredible journey, they've now experienced Sasquatch activity in five different locations across Washington State.
Get ready to dive into a truly unique story!
But there's another, more mysterious side to Jonathan's life. In 2012, his family became aware of unusual activity on their property – activity attributed to Sasquatch. The following year, Jonathan and his brother Ben captured what many consider to be the best thermal video of a Sasquatch ever recorded. And the encounters don't stop there: his wife, Sara, has also captured some of the most compelling audio recordings of Sasquatch.
Together, Jonathan and Sara share their experiences and insights on their YouTube channel, Salish Sasquatch. What started as documenting happenings on their own property has expanded to include interviews with others across the Pacific Northwest and compelling documentaries. Through their incredible journey, they've now experienced Sasquatch activity in five different locations across Washington State.
Get ready to dive into a truly unique story!
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
Big footstopping through woods, son.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of Shadow, The ain't no good. My man lurking in.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The night.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hides that fire burning bik.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Tall man howling, that floor.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Shadow creeping bringing through.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Sat by a first in fold.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Leave you cold to leave it did re let lostus
rise as the trees flood shy.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Welcome to the Island, Welcome to Real American Monsters.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Hello, Lola, my friends, and Monsterland. Tuesday night again on
the Untold Radio Network's Real American Monsters, and we're back
in the chair. We're back at the helm, and we're
back in control for the next hour and we will
not disappoint once again. This week we have another great guest,
mister Jonathan Brown. He is from Washington State. He is
(02:49):
he is part of the Chihallis Reservation and we'll be
live from there tonight. He is actually outside and going
to do the interview with us. He's got one of
the mer uh I would have to say, uh uh
fleaer videos that have been recorded of a Sasquatch. He's
(03:10):
got some great audio that he sent over and we
were gonna hear a lot more about about what he's
got going on up there. He's also has a channel
with his wife Sarah called Salish Sasquatch, And if you
guys aren't familiar with that, you should go on over
there like and subscribe and check them out because they
do a lot of great work up there and they
have great videos and they have a great way to
(03:32):
do things, and make sure you guys go over there
and check that out. And uh we have a comment.
Tell them that real American monsters sent you, but they
don't need me. Their their subs are way out way
out there, and uh they do a great job. So
uh go on over there, Salish Sasquatch. So good evening, everybody.
(03:52):
I'm glad that you could join us. Mister flat Rockland
is with us tonight. Good evening, Miss Francesca, good evening,
and glad to see you back once again. Blue Eyed
Nor's with us. Mister Gary Spike Senior is with us.
Good evening, Gary. Oh, the Squatch father himself, mister Alfred
Santa Riga is here tonight. Also, we have people pouring
in for this this great, great interview. Mister Boyd Omer
(04:15):
Boyd's in the house also and he is the one
that actually set us up with Jonathan. So thank you
Boyd for another great guest tonight, the Stone Pickers with us,
So everybody's pouring in a kind one a little time
crunch because Jonathan's got a birthday party to get to,
but he took the time. I have a busy schedule
to hang out with us for the next hour. So
(04:36):
without further ado, let's bring out our guests tonight from
Selesi Sasquatch in Washington State.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Mister Jonathan Brown, Well, thanks for having me on good eving.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sir, Well, thank you, thank you. I appreciate you taking
the time and spending with us on a Tuesday night.
I know it's only five o'clock out there, and it's
kind of hard to get the scheduling with the three
hour difference, so I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, I did want to clarify it. Our channel is
actually pronounced Salih Sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I can't get chet, I can't get the Chahalis right,
Helly is right, or the Chilly.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So the reservation that we live on, it's the Chehalis
Reservation and the channel is Salish Sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
All right, Well again, I told you a little bit ago.
I was struggling. I found like eighteen different pronunciations of
that this morning, so I'm not even going to say
it the rest of the time. So you guys just
heard the proper pronunciation, and uh, we're going to go
with that. So before we get started, why don't you
tell a little bit about everybody out who's out in
the audience and everybody who's listening a little bit about
(05:52):
Jonathan Brown.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
So I live on the Chehalis Reservation of Lift your
most of my life and uh, I mean, I got
three kids, my wife Sarah, And as far as I like,
how much about myself do you want to know? Like
what I do for work and things like.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
That, Let's just stick with what do you live? Let
everybody know how you got it? Interested in the big Foot?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, So you want me to just kind of get
right into it, then.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, we'll get right into it and we'll get rolling.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
So things started as far as like what we were
aware of back in twenty twelve. And I was coming
outside the probably about nine o'clock, and this was in
I think it was in September October of twenty twelve,
and I come outside and it smells kind of funny outside.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
It smells kind of like a mix of like a skunk.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Mixed with something foul, and I'm just listening there for
a minute, and then off on one side of our property,
are here this whistle.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It's just so.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
And then about I would say, thirty seconds later, on
the opposing side, there's a whistle response. And it definitely
wasn't a It definitely wasn't a bird. But that in
combination with the you know, foul odor that I smelt outside,
I definitely my mind did go to Sasquatch at that time.
And it was after that that we had just started,
(07:26):
you know, spending some time outside listening and see what
we could hear. And things really did start unraveling after then.
If we fast forward to two thousand and thirteen, in April,
I don't remember which day it was, but it was
within the first week. There was this particular spot near
(07:48):
our property that we were hearing a lot of vocalizations
and knocks and rock.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Clacking and things of that sort.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And so my wife Sarah and I were going out
to We're going out to leave food out there. I mean,
we were just nubes at the time, so we didn't
We were trying to see if we could get some
type of interaction. I mean, we're probably just feeding raccoons
and squirrels. But on this particular time when we went
(08:17):
back there, we could we heard some like crashing, We
heard some vocals and knocking. I don't remember if it
was wood knocks that we had heard or if it
was rock clacking, but knocking definitely. And then I look
off to my left and about one hundred feet away,
I see a sasquatch that is approaching this tree. And
(08:41):
I'm looking at it from the side, so I'm not
able to tell, like square on, like how big his
shoulders are. But he gets behind this tree and he's like,
you know, peeking around and like real fast twitch motion
as he's moving around it. And I'm telling I'm trying
to tell Sarah to look over at the time, she wouldn't.
(09:01):
She wouldn't look over there. She just wasn't ready for it.
And this probably she was just pacing back and forth
and she.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Was like, I can't join, I can't look. I want to,
but I can't. And uh.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
This had probably gone on for about a minute, but
it seemed like it was like way longer than that,
based on you know, how scary it was in the
moment you know, and.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
So that happened.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
And as far as like the what it looked like,
I mean, it was shaded just enough to where I
couldn't make out like facial details, but I could, you know,
see that it had a conical head. I remember the
face being dark, but I couldn't I couldn't like clearly
see eyes or like what the nose looked like or
anything like that, but it was it was close to sunset,
(09:50):
so there was just a little bit of sunlight coming
through the trees, and I could see that when the
sun was hitting parts of its body that it was
kind of a reddish brown, and on his back, like
part of the part of the hair was like clumped together,
like if kind of like kind of like BedHead or
something just kind of messed up looking.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I don't know if it was like dirty or oily
or what the case was.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
But I was looking at him from about one hundred
feet away, and at one hundred feet away, you could,
you know, imagine like what a doorframe would look like
at one hundred feet away, And when he was crouched down,
he looked like he would have been like the height
of a doorframe, and the doorframe is six foot eight,
(10:35):
but I don't know how tall he would have been if.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He was, you know, standing erect.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
But you know, I could see his I could see
his like his thighs and his glutes, you know, very muscular.
But those are the those are the main details that
I remember seeing. And as this was going on for
I'm guessing about a minute, he starts getting on.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
He starts getting.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
On one side of the tree as he's looking at me,
and he just starts crouching down and crouching down and crouching,
keeps crouching until the last time that I glanced over,
like he had to have been like laying right down
on the ground, because it was when I was looking
at him, I wasn't like square on looking at him
like you know, like that like squaring up with him.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I would look like this because I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I didn't want to appear to be challenging, and so
I would look for a few seconds and then just
kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
It was.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It was very intimidating, so I wasn't trying to look
like I was flexing on him or anything.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And as fast twitched motions that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
He had, I mean, I can only imagine, like you know,
how fast something like that could run. So that was
that happened in April of twenty thirteen. You know, we
had heard a lot of vocalizations between then and when
we were first you know, aware of them, you know,
frequenting this area in twenty twelve, the fall of twenty
(12:04):
twelve until April, there was a lot of stuff that
had happened. But it was shortly after that I had
that sighting in April of twenty and thirteen that not
really I can't remember anything notable happening until about August
of late August of twenty thirteen, and then things had,
(12:26):
things had you know, really gotten active around that time period,
and so Sarah had Sarah had reached out to David
Ellis and Derek Randall's at the Olympic Project and you
know kind of gave them an idea of some of
the activity that we had going on. And it was
(12:49):
shortly after that that Derek and David had you know,
both came out and David had brought his tape, his
audio recorder and he was like showing Sarah how to
operate it and everything, and he had like an audio
tent and some different equipment to capture audio and he
(13:13):
taught Sarah how to review audio, so that was going
at the time, and they had also they had also
lent us a thermal camera that didn't have recording capability
in it. And I'm trying to think, and I mean
I could, I could pull up the exact date, because
you know, we have notes on this and stuff, but
(13:35):
right off the top of my head, I can't think
of when this would be. But the first thermal recorder
that Derek had left with us, it was just this
monocular that didn't have any type of recording capability. And
Sarah and I were just listening outside one night and behind.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Us we hear this bang bang bang, like.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
This something banging on something metallic, and we we had
quickly ran to the side.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Of the house because we were you know, it freaked
us out.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It wasn't very far away from us, I'd guess about
fifty or sixty feet, and we grabbed that thermal monocular
that had the that we were looking over in the area.
But right right prior to that, I had before Sarah
got the monocular.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Right before that. One thing I forgot to leave out
that I didn't mean to leave.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Out, is I start coming, I start coming back towards
where the knocking was coming, and I had a flashlight
with me, and I mean there was more than just
the eyes that I saw, but the eyes were what
really stood out when I flashed my light at it,
and I was probably about, I don't know, thirty or
(14:52):
forty feet away from it. And then then after that,
it is, as soon as I saw those eyes look
at me, I just bolted right back to the house.
And that's when Sarah was looking through the thermal monocular
and she was like, Joe and I can see him, like,
you know, he was like swaying back and forth. I
(15:13):
don't know if I don't know if he had like
lost his night vision from the from the light being
in his eyes, or if that's just you know, something
that they do. But as she was, as she was
watching it, we're on the we're on the back steps
of the house, and she sees it just you know,
swaying back and forth. And enough time had gone by
by this point, I you know, understood it didn't have
(15:34):
any cape, any recording capability. But I told Sarah, I
was like, well, you know, put your phone up to
it and you know, take pictures of what you're able
to see through it.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
So she did.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I mean, and in hindsight, like I would have I
would have told her, like, you know, record a video
of it if she if she was able to, But
that didn't happen. And uh so that and said the
next day, we come outside and and.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There's a.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
We were looking for what was what it was banging on,
and it was this There was this rusty, metallic like
tea kettle that was back there, and so we're we're
assuming that's what it was because we couldn't see anything
else that was, you know, metallic that was back in
that area.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So that happened.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I don't remember if that was in September or October,
but it was one of the two. And then then
I'm trying to think the next thing that happened.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Then, Before we get too far down the line, I
just want to ask you a couple of questions. How
long How long have you lived on this piece of
the reservation. How long have you been you know, had
a house there, Oh.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We were living here at this spot.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
We've been living here since twenty twelve.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
How long have you been on the reservation? Have you
been your whole life.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Or pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, and what what what was what was the what
was their outtake on Sasquatch? Did they all believe in
Sasquatch or is this just something that came about as
you you started experience them. But you know, did the Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I've always I've always heard stories from the reservation and
you know, people, you know, people telling me about their
accounts and stuff. I've I can't think of a time
in my life, you know that I didn't believe that
Sasquatch was real. But as far as I having absolute
definitive experiences, you know, this was this was you know,
(17:35):
a first. There was another time that was There was
another time that was back in two thousand and six.
This is before anything had happened on our place that
we were aware of. But uh, I was going fishing
with my cousin Greg, and it was it was late June,
and it was real foggy out and we were we
(18:00):
were going down this road and then we see somebody
like walking through the fog, you know, two or three
hundred feet down and then all of a sudden, it's
just an outline of a figure. We assumed it was
a person, and it could have been a person but
this is just something strange that had happened before that.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I can't say I definitively saw one then.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But as soon as we'd come down the road, this
thing is just walking towards us, which we believe as
a person, and all of a sudden, it just turns
right and bolts into this really thick brush.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
And I say, right.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Then to my cousin Greg, I was like, and I
wonder who that was. And then my cousin Greg goes,
maybe it was a bigfoot, and he's just saying it
in that way, like you know, we were both thinking
that that was a possibility, but we were too far
away to have like any clear definition or you know,
being able to gauge anything on size.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
It all just happened so fast, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Is there as you mentioned fishing and all that, And
I dug in and I did my homework a little bit,
and there's a river that actually flows near the reservation.
Am I correct? And is that a big part of
the life there of fishing throughout the ages was that,
you know, how they made their money way back when,
with fishing wheels and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I mean, there is people that are like commercial fishermen
and that's a significant portion of their income. But for
the most time, it's more like a part time gig
that people have during the different salmon runs. But we
have the Chehalis River, which is the biggest of the two,
and then we also have the Black River, which is
a tributary to the Chehalis, and both of them are
on the reservation.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
How important do you think that is to the Sasquatch
to having waterways like that? Do you think they use
them for travel? Obviously they must, you know, they love fish,
you know who fresh fish, you know, big fish too.
You know we're now we're talking. You got steelhead there too.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Correct, Yeah, we have a we have a we have a.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Coho run, a steelhead run, and a and a chinook run,
and so those are the those are the main runs
that we have in the river. But yeah, I think
it's I think it's a very important thing. And as
far as like where our properties positioned, like where we're
positioned right here where the we're the last place on
the reservation on this side, and so the Chalis River
(20:23):
is about a half mile away from us.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Do you think they come to your property because they're
coming through to the rivers I'm sure with all the
audio that you've guy done, you've probably gathered over the
years which direction they're coming from when they come from.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Well, well, on our property, there's a there's a creek
that's directly behind us that also flows into the Chehalis River.
And so I mean, I think they if I was
to guest, I think that they would prefer to, you know,
be close to a water source as often as possible,
especially with you know, I mean with water you don't
(21:01):
just have fish, but you got you know, frogs and
all the other critters that are down.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
There right right, and you need water to drink and
all that stuff too.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
And U or if you're hunting deer, you know deer,
do you need a water source? Yeah? I think I
think the waterways play, you know, a.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Significant role in the places around the area where you
know they're seeing.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
How about aquifers, Do you guys have aquifers or around
like the underground springs or any of that in the area.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I have heard that there's a that there's actually an
underground river like nearby.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I find that fascinating. You hear a lot in different
areas that the aquifer is a thing that for some
reason that there's sasquatch activity around them. I don't know
why I couldn't tell you that. Again, like we talked
on the phone, I told you I'm not the big
foot guru. I just I just have my opinion, just
like the next guy. So I'm not I'm not stating facts.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
So I don't think. I don't. I don't really think
there's any of us that can do that, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Right right? And would you wait? So why have you
been so lucky over the years to have so many experiences?
I mean, how many times have you seen them? Now?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Well, I mean when things were first happening, you know,
twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, I was thinking like, oh man,
this is like easy to have activity because I had
I had four sightings all together, including that being including
you know, seeing through thermal But uh, I have not
(22:30):
seen one since then, and I've It's it's not that
it's not that difficult to like be in a location
like ours where you spend a lot of time outside,
it's not necessarily that difficult to hear one every now
and then. But hearing them and seeing them is two
completely different things.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Right right right now? You have some you have some
pretty really really good thermal footage. I've looked at it
one hundred times, and I've seen your explanation on your
channel of how deep that little ledge was in back
that is standing up mm hmm. Before we show it,
we'll get where we're we're cruising right along in the
time already so wet.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
And also also like this area that you're looking at,
like right back here, this is the this is the
area where you're looking at it.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
So you could have some type of perspective as.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
To you know where it's coming up, and you know
how far of a drop down that you would have.
And over in this area where I'm pointing, that's where
that creek is. And then right over there is.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The Cheles River.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
All right, so we're gonna we're gonna play that video
now for everybody. If there's never nobody's ever seen it.
It's a pretty good, a really really good video. Uh
and as my hands bleed and hold on two seconds, weird,
(23:58):
sorry about that. All right, Well, you'll be able to
describe everybody that's going on in the video because you're
going to be right next to it when we pull
it up. So, what was what time of the year,
was this recorded, Jonathan.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
This was on.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
October thirtieth of twenty thirteen. And you want me to
explain what was happening right.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Prior to that?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yep, yep, Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So I think this is a I think this is
a significant reason why we were able to capture what
we did was because it's approaching that time of year
with that field that you saw right behind me that
floods when you know, the high waters come, so a
couple times a year that.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Field gets covered with water and on.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
At that time, there was a bunch of cows behind
us and they were getting they were getting moved off
to different pastures on higher ground, and on that particular night,
like they were making a law noise because half of
them were moved away, and you know, they're getting separated
from their families, and so they were just doing a
lot of like crying and bellowing and just making all
(25:08):
kinds of noise, even to the point where we didn't
put out audio that night because we didn't think anything
would be captured because the cows were just making so
much noise in they're like right behind us. But it
was in the it was in the midst of all
of that that like right behind my brother Ben and
I there was or right in front of us, I
(25:29):
should say, there was the cows that were you know
that you could see in the thermal video. But there
was one point pretty close to where I'm sitting at there.
I heard this tapping and I was thinking like, okay,
I'm gonna get the thermal camera out. And this thermal camera,
(25:49):
this one we had replaced Derek and David had replaced
it with that monocular that didn't record. This one did
have onboard recording capabilities. So I was scanning through it
and I wasn't that familiar with the device. I mean
I wasn't even like adjusting the lens for clarity or
anything like that because I was just unfamiliar with it.
(26:12):
But at first, and it was close to it's close
to where I was where I'm sitting right now, and
I'm looking at it from about one hundred and twenty
feet away from here. It was I see this like
what looks like kind of a human shaped head on
the ground with a body, and I'm thinking like, okay,
what am I looking at here? And I look at
(26:33):
the camera to see where the record buttons are and
how you get it recording. I'm not able to get
it recording, and so when I put the camera back up,
it had changed positions and that's where you see this
berm right behind me, where it's at the chest up
right there. And I thought I was recording, but what
(26:53):
I was doing was I mean I was, I was
taking snapshots and then I realized it wasn't recording. I
tell my brother Ben, I was like, hey, I'm not
getting it's not recording. I'm just taking snapshots. And so
I hand the camera to him and then he gets
it recording at that time, and it goes for two
minutes and twenty seconds, and then the camera just turns
(27:14):
off at that point. I don't know what the reason
for that was. There's been speculation by David Ellis that
thought that the camera had an auto shutdown feature on it.
I don't know if that's the case, but I do
know that that camera had to be sent back at
least once because there was there were some faulty issues
with it. So I don't know if it was what
(27:35):
it was. But the stops at two minutes and twenty seconds.
We're able to get the camera back on, but at
this point there's.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Nothing there anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
And we looked all around and it was just it
was just we think it was just there momentarily, you know.
But I think that's close to enough. Right, we'll get
explanation on it.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
It's there. You can talk about it more. Because you
got to be right next to the screen. You can
tell everybody what's going on. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah, so where you're where, you're seeing it at the chest,
it's coming up from that field.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
The top of the berm is what you're seeing.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
At its chest. You'll eventually see a cow walk by.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
There's been people that have talked about like, oh, it's
a cow and you know a bunch of different cows
that are congregated together and everything like that. And when
you're watching the video, there's not a it doesn't appear
to have like a whole lot of movement. But uh,
I've never talked to this guy before, but I did
watch Uh, I did watch this YouTube. Guy he used
(28:52):
to his channel still there in the video is still there.
His name's a Bigfoot Tony. He's from the UK, and
so I saw him when a trying to like stabilize
he was trying to stabilize everything, and you know, quickly move.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It and fast forward to see what kind of movement, and.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You could clear that you could clearly see when he
was doing that that it was it was actually making
a lot more movement than you could realize, like watching
it through the camera, but it was just doing it
so slowly.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Well obviously there's the cow, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
But as as he was speeding it up and everything
like it was in fact one solid, one solid subject
that was moving around.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
No.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I've seen some of the blown up steel shots and
that you can see that on your channel also, and
it's it's pretty impressive. You can see muscular you know,
you can see muscles.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
And and there's also.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Sarah had asked at the time, the rancher that was
leased in that field behind us. Sarah had asked him
if he had ever had any cows go missing, or
any calves or anything. He was like, nope, not even
a calf. And so there has been people that have asked, like, okay, well,
if there's a if there's a sasquat, tright there, help them.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
The kelves weren't afraid of it.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And I mean, in my opinion, it's not it's not
that I know, but I would guess that they're somewhat
used to them coming around, and they've never been harmed
by him.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
No different than you know, most.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
People don't hurt cows, except for I guess when they're
slaughtering them.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
So well, let's take care of the cow.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
They know.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
How how steep is that inclining back, it was like
six seven eight feet right to the ground from the bank.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I'd say it's more like twelve or thirteen feet, but
I mean it's not it's not like it's not vertical.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
It's kind of a gentle burm, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Right, But then the camera goes off and then you
get it back on and then it's gone. Do you
think it was waiting for the opportunities something like that
to happen, for it to make its move, because you
hear a lot about that also.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I'm not I'm not sure if if it was. I'm
not sure if it was able to see us at
that time, but it may have been. But the cows
were making so much noise they were putting on a show.
I was under the impression that the sasquatch was basically
coming in and saying, like, Hey, what's going on here?
What's all the commotion about? You know, and so that's
(31:36):
what I think. I think those cows being so loud
is what drew the sasquatching.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
And it was.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
In the following days like where it was positioned uh
there we had got some we had got some plaster
to we had found tracks where it was positioned at,
and we had got some plaster. We took Sarah had
taken h video and photos of the of the tracks,
but she only cast one of the tracks, the clearest one,
(32:08):
and it was it had it had like in the
mid part of it, like there was like a little
bit of a kind of a bend in it, as
if there's some you know, flexibility, and but from from
the heel to the to the top of the foot,
I mean, even with that little bit of a flex
in there, it was about fourteen and a half inches,
So if it was completely straightened out, I would think
(32:31):
that it would be like closer to sixteen.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Do you think that you were in the middle of
a hunt possibly? Do you think they were there to
take a cow or do you think it was there
to take a cow or what's your opinion? Why you
owe obviously you said because they were making a ruckus,
But do you think that you guys might have stumbled
in on a hunt.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I don't think so, because just because the rancher that was,
you know, lease in the field, he had said that,
you know, he had never had a cow go missing,
and so I I don't I don't think that was
the case. I'm not saying that it wasn't. It could
have been, but I think it was just there out
of curiosity to see what was going on with the
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cows were making such a commotion about.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
So have over the years, have has has I don't
know how to say it. Has it has it intensified?
Have you Have you heard language or anything like that?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
I think you?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I sent you a couple of audio recordings where you
hear I kind of sounds like singing where there's when
I when I first heard that, I don't remember, like
there's probably a date on that audio clip that I
had sent you, But I'm coming outside and I hear like.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, and I'm like.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
As soon as I heard that, I was like hell,
and I walked right inside because like I was just
like it sounded like little girls singing in the back
of the woods, and like at that at that time
of night, I was just thinking like if that was
a little girls, that's creepier to me than like if
there was a sasquatch back there. And there was another
(34:18):
one where one of the recordings that I had sent
to you, where my brother Ben and I were outside
and we had heard on the other side of the
road we hear this yeah yeah, yeah, like and it
you can't really make it out on the audio recording itself,
(34:40):
but it totally sounded like talking to us and in person.
It doesn't sound feminine on the audio recording, but on
the in person it did have kind of a feminine
tone to it.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
At least that was the impression that we were under.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Okay, so you got one from sid Stember, you got
one from October, and you got one from November. We'll
play the one from September first, Okay. I got them
all loaded up and then you can tell everybody which
ones which. So here's the one from September. Okay, so
(35:35):
that's the first one.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
I couldn't on my end, I couldn't tell what that
sounded like.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Uh did everybody? Can anybody else hear it is loud enough?
Let me see, mhm see anybody in chat? Was that
loud enough for you guys to hear it. Yeah, no,
it was plentny loud, and you didn't hear it. So
(36:03):
that one, that one sounded like you just said, I
think it was with your brother. I went, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, it sounded it sounded like.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
We were just under the impression that it sounded like,
you know, like it was talking down to something or
to one of them, you know.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Because you can hear another subject, you know, kind of
like grumbling like it wasn't you know, like okay, you know,
like you get over here now, And it was like
it was, you know, okay, mom, I gotta come over.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That's but when we had just to just to make
sure that it couldn't have possibly been like a person,
and we had a as soon as we heard that,
we went out to the road in the opening and
scanning the area and no.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
There wasn't. It's not like there was anybody walking around
at that time. But that's that's what we heard.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Audio was such a great tool to have. I mean,
he really did it. Answer yeh, all right, We're gonna
play the next one. This one's from October. H Did
(37:27):
you hear that one at all?
Speaker 7 (37:28):
I didn't. I didn't hear it. I don't know if
it was it was.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
I think I sent you one that was called five
long howls or something like that. And then then there's
that one that I explained sounded like the girls singing.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
That's the girls singing when the five howls is next. Okay,
so we're what's the five girls singing? So well, what's
your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Well, it wasn't five girls singing, but what sounded like
the little girls singing? I don't know what it was like.
It was just as soon as I heard that, I
did not come back outside.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
It was just that was just too creepy. And so
I was like, nope, I'm setting this one out.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Well it's from your house.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
So the next one is the is the the house?
Play it out right now?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
H h.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
H h.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
H m hmm.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Okay, where is the file of them? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
And as far as that one goes, I can't recall
if I had if I had heard that live or not.
There's been quite a few times that we've heard, you know,
those extended calls and also like the deep roars, but uh,
I can't recall if I had heard that one live
or not. So there's a good possibility I did, and
(39:28):
there's a good possibility that it was an audio clip
that was you know, just captured at like, you know,
between two or four o'clock in the morning. And I
missed a question that you had asked me, is it like,
as you know, things intensified, and like, how different is
it now versus you know, things in twenty and thirteen.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I don't really, I don't really know that I have
a that I have an accurate answer to that.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I mean, it definitely seems like things were more active
in a twenty thirteen specifically, I don't I don't know
if there was a reason.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
For you know, closer behavior and things like that, but.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
It has not been we haven't experienced it to that
level like since then.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But there's a couple of things that are different.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
It's like during that time period, like I would I
would stay out till midnight, even on work nights, and
so I was able to like hear a lot more then,
and it seemed like there was kind of a sweet
spot between like eleven eleven PM and much later, And
according to the audio, I would say that that was
probably about like between like eleven and four o'clock or
(40:40):
so in the morning. But I haven't been I haven't
been spending nearly the amount of time outside that I
haven't back then, So I don't know that I don't
know that.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
How much different it has changed.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I would still suspect that twenty thirteen that it was
more active at that time, but I can't say that
for certain, but that it isn't like it isn't like we're.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
It isn't like these things are our neighbors and you know, just.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Always around like we're just I think we're our properties positioned.
We're just kind of at a at a pinch point
where you know, they pass through. It could be could
be just a few minutes. But when they do, like
they come through and it's they're not there for very long.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Have any of your children had any interactions with them?
Have they seen them? Have they heard them? Have they?
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:38):
But because of like they've they've known sasquatches rerual their
whole lives, and so I can't They don't want me
to like really ever speak on any of their anything
that they've ever had happened, but like they have had
I'm not saying which kids have had anything happen, but
(42:01):
they have had knocking.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
On their windows and things that night.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Oh jeez, are you worried about that? Were you? I mean,
obviously over time I have found that you were more
was more worried about them at first than I am.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
Now I wouldn't say that I'm worried about it.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
I think there was a reason for that is because
at the time they had put up they had put
up these these lights at the ceiling of their bedroom
just to try to make their room look cool and
things like that. But when you would look at it
from the outside, like like the coloration that you would
see from the window when it's dark out, I mean,
it really does look like those lights are like putting
(42:41):
on a show. And so I think that it would
just be like more of a curiosity thing more than anything.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
But no, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I wouldn't say that I'm worried about the sasquatch like
doing anything. But I also I also am not one
of those people that like thinks that you know, they're
my forest friends or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We got a question for you from the from the
chat room. El Santrigue asks, is there any any dog
man sightings on the reservation.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
I'm not aware of any.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Man.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Somebody had somebody had brought that up to me, and
not far away from me is probably about twenty minutes
or so, twenty five minutes.
Speaker 7 (43:25):
There's this area.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Called may Town and apparently there's there's people who have
reported seeing a dog man over in that area. Whether
it's true or not, I don't know, Okay, but as
far as as far as Washington goes, as far as
dog man goes, that's the only thing that I've ever heard,
and I don't know if it happened or not.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Good. So, you guys got to travel and bone like
I got. I love to travel and meet new people.
I love to go look at different areas. And I
see that you guys just got from Bluff Creek. You
just did a nice video on that. If you guys
haven't catched that, yeah, you should go watch that one. Well,
what was your favorite experience that Bluff Creek down there?
Speaker 7 (44:11):
I mean, I I just think it was kind of cool, like.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Just seeing all of the surrounding area, Like it makes
sense that it makes sense that you know there is
sasquatch still in the area. There's people that have had
experiences in recent years. Yeah, it's it's definitely a place
I'd like to go back. It's it's gorgeous out that way.
(44:36):
And obviously the obviously the Patterson Gilman you know film
site is you know, something to see. I didn't personally
go down there because of a of a knee problem
that I developed a couple of months ago.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
So but Sarah did go down there.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
All right. We got a question from a Squatch mama,
Yes do you find of coast? I can't say. I
don't know how to say the words Solish? Is it Solish?
Did I get right?
Speaker 7 (45:06):
Slish?
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Salish? Salish folklore? And the sounds that you've recorded, do
any of the recordings reinforce ancestral stories?
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I mean, I'm not a I'm not a that aware
of like the ancestral stories of them, you know, being
real vivid on the kind of vocalizations that they would make.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
I mean, I would say so to a.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Degree, because you know they're like the whistling and stuff
that happens, and you know there's there's you know, old
Indians that also think like that. You know, whistling that
you hear in the woods isn't from Sasquatch, but it's
from little people. And that's a whole different topic. I'm
not saying that. I'm not saying that I know, but
in my opinion, I think the whistling is from sasquatches.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
It's a common it's a common thing, and you can
tell the difference in an a lip whistle compared to
a bird whistle. And no, definitely you know it's a
lipless We got one here, uh and the two girls
to my two teammates on the team were in the
back of me. I'm like so excited. I'm like, girls school,
did you hear that was a lip whist? So that
was a lip whistle? Did you hear the little kid
(46:22):
in the kid he story? That just reminds me that, well,
you can tell the difference between the bird and lips,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
So mh where'd you have? That? Happen?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
At here in Connecticut? Northwest Connecticut and at one of
the state forests. It's on my channel if you want
to look at it, I'll just send you the video.
You can hear. Like, we recorded it on three different
cameras and the recorders on our backs, and the girls
actually seen one that day. The two girls had witnessed
at whatever whistled at So it was pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
Pretty they saw it.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
They saw it. Yeah, and I handed Mary, the youngest
one on my team, the camera, but she never used
it before and that was my mistake. Mary, just point
it in the direction, just point it, point it, and
she's got the cameras going all over the place, but time,
and that's pretty cool. Yeah, the whistle was on video.
Everything's right there for.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
People to say, so, yeah, I don't have to look
at that.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Yeah, it was a cool It was a cool day
for sure. We had a lot of crazy stuff happen here.
How about gifts you guys received gifts, anything like that,
And if if you guys want questions, we're nearing the
hour mark here, so if you got a question for Jonathan,
please put it in capital letters then we'll get them
out to them.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
Like do we uh, do we leave Sasquatch gifts?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
That done that? Get a gift, leave a gift? Have
you ever tried any of that?
Speaker 6 (47:40):
I mean, like when I had seen the one in
the daylight, when Sarah and I were out there, we
were putting some food out there because it was just like,
you know, we were attempting to like try to draw
them in, but after that, not so much.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
I mean sometimes sometimes sometimes we'll.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Like Sarah has you know, dropped off some like apples
and just left them there.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
But that it's even something like that's not very common.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
So no, it's not like we're it's not like we're
constantly feeding anything or even doing it very often. And
as far as like receiving gifts, uh no, I'm not
aware of anything like that.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
Okay, I got a question right here from that. We
have many small yallery reports here in Australia. Oh well,
Australia Indigenous know them very well. But most of that noisy,
the sacred, and we need to respect that. First nations
(48:41):
is where the truth is.
Speaker 7 (48:44):
I thought it was a question.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Oh no, it's sorry, it was very act asked the
question nothing, but that was a cool Hello Australia. Anyways,
that's very cool. Nothing. How has your connection to Indigenous
teachings and traditions shaped the way you interpret sasquatch encounters,
both your own and those shared with you by others?
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Like, how has it shaped and changed? Is that? What
the question was?
Speaker 5 (49:11):
How is your connection to the Indigenous teachings introduced and
shaped the way to interpret Sasquatch encounters.
Speaker 7 (49:21):
I don't really know that I have an answer to that.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
I've I've you know, heard Indians all my life talking
about you know, experiences that they've had. But uh, I
guess I've I guess I've just always been a believer.
I don't know that. I don't know that like I
have a I don't know that I have a real
like uber Indian answer to that, you know. I mean,
(49:46):
it's I wouldn't say that, like I wouldn't say that,
like anything culturally comes into play. There is things that
there's things that we have on the reservation that are
different than a lot of places, and that is like,
you know, you're brought up the fishing, and so at
(50:09):
different times of year there's you know, guild nets that
are in the river. I mean maybe that has maybe
that has you know, I would imagine that that has,
you know, been something that Sasquatch we're aware of the like, Okay,
they just put these gill nets in the river, they
pull them in and they're full of fish. I think
(50:29):
I think something like that is a possibility as to
you know, why there's a lot of activity in the
area as well.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Is Tasquatch like a big part of your heritage. I mean,
is it a big pair of the tribe or is
it just you know, something that you're experiencing is.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
I don't know about I mean, I would say most
people on the reservation believe in Sasquatch, but you know,
there's still there's still people that don't. There's still people
that maybe maybe they're kind of a defence on it.
But I would say the majority, uh believe it. And
as far as uh, as far as I go on
our reservation, I wouldn't even necessarily consider us like that
(51:10):
special compared to like some other people in different locations
that have had, you know, the same amount of activity
and in the last in the last year specifically, some
some people not far from us had had have had
far more activity than we've had.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Do you get called to them those places? Do they
call you and have you come over and you know,
get to hang out with them overnight or any stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
No, it's not really like that, but it's you know,
in when the when the topic comes up, you know,
we'll we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
Well that you should, I mean, Green Interactions is a
lot of great.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
Yeah, and then there is.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
Uh, there is people that you know, like, have sent
me stuff in the Okay, check out this picture that
we got from the other side of the reservation of
like a footprint and things like that.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Stone Picker asked, have you ever have you ever thought
that they could read your mind?
Speaker 7 (52:06):
No, I know a lot of people. I know a
lot of people you know saying that they can. I'm not.
Speaker 6 (52:13):
I'm not saying that they I'm not saying that they can't.
But like, it's just not one of those things that
I believe.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Have you ever seen orbs or anything like that? Oh,
I'm the I think the orb is its own phenomenon
that just happens to show up in Sasquat Cherry's. Have
you ever witnessed the orbs?
Speaker 7 (52:32):
I have not. Not so much on our property.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
There's there's some there are some weird lights that we
have you know, seen in the past near our property.
But uh, in other other locations that I've gone with friends,
when you know we were in you know, good zones
for bigfoot where Yeah, there's there's been quite a few
times that we've not I wouldn't say quite a few
(52:58):
times a handful of time times that we've seen strange
lights that you know, we couldn't we couldn't place. And
you know, it does seem like it does seem like, oh,
you're in a you're in a bigfoot area. It seems
like there's a close relation. But I just like you
were saying, I personally think that it's its own independent phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
I agree with you, right. We got a couple couple
more questions we're at we're at the five five of
Mark and uh got a birthday party to head out to,
so time for two more Alesandrique asks, does your do
you try to believe they are supernatural?
Speaker 6 (53:40):
I've heard I've heard, uh, I've heard people put blanket
statements on you know a lot of different tribes that like,
this tribe believes this and that I think that from
all the people in different tribes that I've talked to,
including my own, I think that it's split just as
much as it is, like, you know, these people think
(54:01):
that they're you know, flesh and blood creatures.
Speaker 7 (54:04):
These people think that.
Speaker 6 (54:05):
They're interdimensional and you know, they can you know, access
they can like walk between worlds, and there's some.
Speaker 7 (54:15):
That just don't believe that they're real at all. So
I think that I think it's.
Speaker 6 (54:19):
Pretty close to the same as like the general population
that are, you know, into the subject or not into
the subject, you know, except the only exception would be
far more believe that Sasquatch are real than the general
public does, and whether it's real like interdimensional or flesh
and blood like they believe in sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
So we're at the hour mark. I appreciate you giving
us that we're gonna have to have you back because
I got a ton more questions than we have to
have Sarah on too.
Speaker 7 (54:50):
So yeah, she said she she said she would definitely
do it.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
So and I intentionally, I intentionally didn't cover like some
of the stuff that I knew that she would go
over because some of it's just not my story to tell.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
But we're gonna have to have you back to for sure.
Speaker 7 (55:07):
All right, Well, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
Yeah, I really appreciate it too. What do you got
coming up before you head out? What's coming up for
Jonathan Brown?
Speaker 7 (55:17):
Next week?
Speaker 6 (55:18):
I'm going on a going on a camp out with
about between thirty five and forty other people. We're gonna
be getting out in the Gifford pin show for us,
and we'll be there for about five days or so,
so that should be a good time. Where positioned in
a spot where that I think is as good as
any place to be. So, you know, fingers crossed, maybe
(55:40):
we'll have you know, some something happened.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Well, when are you gonna see Boyd again?
Speaker 7 (55:47):
Man? I hope to see Boyd sooner than later. I
love Boyd.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
Yeah, Boyd's one hell of a guy.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (55:53):
I never met anything Boddy like Boyd. He's a really, really,
really really good guy.
Speaker 7 (55:57):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
The last of my song was in in January at
squatch Fest.
Speaker 7 (56:03):
He surprised everyone and showed up there.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, yeah, I knew he was coming. He actually did
the show from up there when he was there.
Speaker 7 (56:11):
Oh that's right. I think I remember him saying something
about that.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Yeah I was there. Yeah, it was great, great, all right. Well,
if I want to say a big thank you, everybody
in the audience had a great time and the chat
room was great as always. So uh, you know, push
you backstage and if say goodnight to everybody, and then
if you want to hang out for a couple of minutes,
I'll say good night when I get done, all right,
(56:35):
all right, everybody, ladies and gentlemen. Mister Jonathan Brown, all right,
all right, all right, what a great show. I want
to say thank you for everybody showing up tonight being
kind in the chat room. We will have Jonathan back
(56:58):
for more questions and we'll have Sarah coming on, so
we we're gonna set that all up tonight. We had
to go. So that's that's the way the cookie crumbles,
that's the way it happens. So little news. We started
filming our first documentary. It is called The Winstead wild Man.
Me and Mike Lucy from the Adirondacks. I've teamed up
(57:22):
and we are filming it ourselves and doing it. We
figured out that both of us each needed a hand,
and we're filling in the spaces for each of us
and we are filming that now and look forward to
getting that out to you sooner than later. So that's exciting.
I've been wanting to do that for a long time.
So thank you Mike for coming in. And it's gonna
(57:43):
be good. We started filming already and we're gonna be
filming again in two more weeks and hopefully that'll wrap
up the filming. So next week I got the boss
on the show, got mister Doug Hicheck and Joey Bagga
Donuts his best friend, and it's going to be called
The show is going to be called Nell Grove before
Monster Quest. You're gonna hear stories that would between Doug
(58:05):
and Joe they went up there for thirty years, and
they went there before Monster Quest even happened and had
strange stuff happen. So you're gonna hear all the stories
that you've never heard before. And I had the honor
of hearing when I was up there with them. So yeah,
that's what's coming up. So thank you all. And as
my friend Larry says, get in the woods people.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Best to sleep. World should be dead. Is this something
that have time.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
To think that it was God? I cannot be myself.
Speaker 6 (59:32):
Once in a wild.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I get tired talking. I'm good on the smile and
let my alter e go wherever the stays were show.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
The screen can be a streams
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Play, so
Big footstopping through woods, son.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of Shadow, The ain't no good. My man lurking in.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The night.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hides that fire burning bik.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Tall man howling, that floor.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Shadow creeping bringing through.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Sat by a first in fold.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Leave you cold to leave it did re let lostus
rise as the trees flood shy.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Welcome to the Island, Welcome to Real American Monsters.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Hello, Lola, my friends, and Monsterland. Tuesday night again on
the Untold Radio Network's Real American Monsters, and we're back
in the chair. We're back at the helm, and we're
back in control for the next hour and we will
not disappoint once again. This week we have another great guest,
mister Jonathan Brown. He is from Washington State. He is
(02:49):
he is part of the Chihallis Reservation and we'll be
live from there tonight. He is actually outside and going
to do the interview with us. He's got one of
the mer uh I would have to say, uh uh
fleaer videos that have been recorded of a Sasquatch. He's
(03:10):
got some great audio that he sent over and we
were gonna hear a lot more about about what he's
got going on up there. He's also has a channel
with his wife Sarah called Salish Sasquatch, And if you
guys aren't familiar with that, you should go on over
there like and subscribe and check them out because they
do a lot of great work up there and they
have great videos and they have a great way to
(03:32):
do things, and make sure you guys go over there
and check that out. And uh we have a comment.
Tell them that real American monsters sent you, but they
don't need me. Their their subs are way out way
out there, and uh they do a great job. So
uh go on over there, Salish Sasquatch. So good evening, everybody.
(03:52):
I'm glad that you could join us. Mister flat Rockland
is with us tonight. Good evening, Miss Francesca, good evening,
and glad to see you back once again. Blue Eyed
Nor's with us. Mister Gary Spike Senior is with us.
Good evening, Gary. Oh, the Squatch father himself, mister Alfred
Santa Riga is here tonight. Also, we have people pouring
in for this this great, great interview. Mister Boyd Omer
(04:15):
Boyd's in the house also and he is the one
that actually set us up with Jonathan. So thank you
Boyd for another great guest tonight, the Stone Pickers with us,
So everybody's pouring in a kind one a little time
crunch because Jonathan's got a birthday party to get to,
but he took the time. I have a busy schedule
to hang out with us for the next hour. So
(04:36):
without further ado, let's bring out our guests tonight from
Selesi Sasquatch in Washington State.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Mister Jonathan Brown, Well, thanks for having me on good eving.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sir, Well, thank you, thank you. I appreciate you taking
the time and spending with us on a Tuesday night.
I know it's only five o'clock out there, and it's
kind of hard to get the scheduling with the three
hour difference, so I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, I did want to clarify it. Our channel is
actually pronounced Salih Sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I can't get chet, I can't get the Chahalis right,
Helly is right, or the Chilly.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So the reservation that we live on, it's the Chehalis
Reservation and the channel is Salish Sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
All right, Well again, I told you a little bit ago.
I was struggling. I found like eighteen different pronunciations of
that this morning, so I'm not even going to say
it the rest of the time. So you guys just
heard the proper pronunciation, and uh, we're going to go
with that. So before we get started, why don't you
tell a little bit about everybody out who's out in
the audience and everybody who's listening a little bit about
(05:52):
Jonathan Brown.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
So I live on the Chehalis Reservation of Lift your
most of my life and uh, I mean, I got
three kids, my wife Sarah, And as far as I like,
how much about myself do you want to know? Like
what I do for work and things like.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
That, Let's just stick with what do you live? Let
everybody know how you got it? Interested in the big Foot?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, So you want me to just kind of get
right into it, then.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, we'll get right into it and we'll get rolling.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
So things started as far as like what we were
aware of back in twenty twelve. And I was coming
outside the probably about nine o'clock, and this was in
I think it was in September October of twenty twelve,
and I come outside and it smells kind of funny outside.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
It smells kind of like a mix of like a skunk.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Mixed with something foul, and I'm just listening there for
a minute, and then off on one side of our property,
are here this whistle.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It's just so.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
And then about I would say, thirty seconds later, on
the opposing side, there's a whistle response. And it definitely
wasn't a It definitely wasn't a bird. But that in
combination with the you know, foul odor that I smelt outside,
I definitely my mind did go to Sasquatch at that time.
And it was after that that we had just started,
(07:26):
you know, spending some time outside listening and see what
we could hear. And things really did start unraveling after then.
If we fast forward to two thousand and thirteen, in April,
I don't remember which day it was, but it was
within the first week. There was this particular spot near
(07:48):
our property that we were hearing a lot of vocalizations
and knocks and rock.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Clacking and things of that sort.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And so my wife Sarah and I were going out
to We're going out to leave food out there. I mean,
we were just nubes at the time, so we didn't
We were trying to see if we could get some
type of interaction. I mean, we're probably just feeding raccoons
and squirrels. But on this particular time when we went
(08:17):
back there, we could we heard some like crashing, We
heard some vocals and knocking. I don't remember if it
was wood knocks that we had heard or if it
was rock clacking, but knocking definitely. And then I look
off to my left and about one hundred feet away,
I see a sasquatch that is approaching this tree. And
(08:41):
I'm looking at it from the side, so I'm not
able to tell, like square on, like how big his
shoulders are. But he gets behind this tree and he's like,
you know, peeking around and like real fast twitch motion
as he's moving around it. And I'm telling I'm trying
to tell Sarah to look over at the time, she wouldn't.
(09:01):
She wouldn't look over there. She just wasn't ready for it.
And this probably she was just pacing back and forth
and she.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Was like, I can't join, I can't look. I want to,
but I can't. And uh.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
This had probably gone on for about a minute, but
it seemed like it was like way longer than that,
based on you know, how scary it was in the
moment you know, and.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
So that happened.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
And as far as like the what it looked like,
I mean, it was shaded just enough to where I
couldn't make out like facial details, but I could, you know,
see that it had a conical head. I remember the
face being dark, but I couldn't I couldn't like clearly
see eyes or like what the nose looked like or
anything like that, but it was it was close to sunset,
(09:50):
so there was just a little bit of sunlight coming
through the trees, and I could see that when the
sun was hitting parts of its body that it was
kind of a reddish brown, and on his back, like
part of the part of the hair was like clumped together,
like if kind of like kind of like BedHead or
something just kind of messed up looking.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I don't know if it was like dirty or oily
or what the case was.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
But I was looking at him from about one hundred
feet away, and at one hundred feet away, you could,
you know, imagine like what a doorframe would look like
at one hundred feet away, And when he was crouched down,
he looked like he would have been like the height
of a doorframe, and the doorframe is six foot eight,
(10:35):
but I don't know how tall he would have been if.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He was, you know, standing erect.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
But you know, I could see his I could see
his like his thighs and his glutes, you know, very muscular.
But those are the those are the main details that
I remember seeing. And as this was going on for
I'm guessing about a minute, he starts getting on.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
He starts getting.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
On one side of the tree as he's looking at me,
and he just starts crouching down and crouching down and crouching,
keeps crouching until the last time that I glanced over,
like he had to have been like laying right down
on the ground, because it was when I was looking
at him, I wasn't like square on looking at him
like you know, like that like squaring up with him.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I would look like this because I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I didn't want to appear to be challenging, and so
I would look for a few seconds and then just
kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
It was.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It was very intimidating, so I wasn't trying to look
like I was flexing on him or anything.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And as fast twitched motions that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
He had, I mean, I can only imagine, like you know,
how fast something like that could run. So that was
that happened in April of twenty thirteen. You know, we
had heard a lot of vocalizations between then and when
we were first you know, aware of them, you know,
frequenting this area in twenty twelve, the fall of twenty
(12:04):
twelve until April, there was a lot of stuff that
had happened. But it was shortly after that I had
that sighting in April of twenty and thirteen that not
really I can't remember anything notable happening until about August
of late August of twenty thirteen, and then things had,
(12:26):
things had you know, really gotten active around that time period,
and so Sarah had Sarah had reached out to David
Ellis and Derek Randall's at the Olympic Project and you
know kind of gave them an idea of some of
the activity that we had going on. And it was
(12:49):
shortly after that that Derek and David had you know,
both came out and David had brought his tape, his
audio recorder and he was like showing Sarah how to
operate it and everything, and he had like an audio
tent and some different equipment to capture audio and he
(13:13):
taught Sarah how to review audio, so that was going
at the time, and they had also they had also
lent us a thermal camera that didn't have recording capability
in it. And I'm trying to think, and I mean
I could, I could pull up the exact date, because
you know, we have notes on this and stuff, but
(13:35):
right off the top of my head, I can't think
of when this would be. But the first thermal recorder
that Derek had left with us, it was just this
monocular that didn't have any type of recording capability. And
Sarah and I were just listening outside one night and behind.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Us we hear this bang bang bang, like.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
This something banging on something metallic, and we we had
quickly ran to the side.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Of the house because we were you know, it freaked
us out.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It wasn't very far away from us, I'd guess about
fifty or sixty feet, and we grabbed that thermal monocular
that had the that we were looking over in the area.
But right right prior to that, I had before Sarah
got the monocular.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Right before that. One thing I forgot to leave out
that I didn't mean to leave.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Out, is I start coming, I start coming back towards
where the knocking was coming, and I had a flashlight
with me, and I mean there was more than just
the eyes that I saw, but the eyes were what
really stood out when I flashed my light at it,
and I was probably about, I don't know, thirty or
(14:52):
forty feet away from it. And then then after that,
it is, as soon as I saw those eyes look
at me, I just bolted right back to the house.
And that's when Sarah was looking through the thermal monocular
and she was like, Joe and I can see him, like,
you know, he was like swaying back and forth. I
(15:13):
don't know if I don't know if he had like
lost his night vision from the from the light being
in his eyes, or if that's just you know, something
that they do. But as she was, as she was
watching it, we're on the we're on the back steps
of the house, and she sees it just you know,
swaying back and forth. And enough time had gone by
by this point, I you know, understood it didn't have
(15:34):
any cape, any recording capability. But I told Sarah, I
was like, well, you know, put your phone up to
it and you know, take pictures of what you're able
to see through it.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
So she did.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I mean, and in hindsight, like I would have I
would have told her, like, you know, record a video
of it if she if she was able to, But
that didn't happen. And uh so that and said the
next day, we come outside and and.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There's a.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
We were looking for what was what it was banging on,
and it was this There was this rusty, metallic like
tea kettle that was back there, and so we're we're
assuming that's what it was because we couldn't see anything
else that was, you know, metallic that was back in
that area.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So that happened.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I don't remember if that was in September or October,
but it was one of the two. And then then
I'm trying to think the next thing that happened.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Then, Before we get too far down the line, I
just want to ask you a couple of questions. How
long How long have you lived on this piece of
the reservation. How long have you been you know, had
a house there, Oh.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We were living here at this spot.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
We've been living here since twenty twelve.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
How long have you been on the reservation? Have you
been your whole life.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Or pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, and what what what was what was the what
was their outtake on Sasquatch? Did they all believe in
Sasquatch or is this just something that came about as
you you started experience them. But you know, did the Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I've always I've always heard stories from the reservation and
you know, people, you know, people telling me about their
accounts and stuff. I've I can't think of a time
in my life, you know that I didn't believe that
Sasquatch was real. But as far as I having absolute
definitive experiences, you know, this was this was you know,
(17:35):
a first. There was another time that was There was
another time that was back in two thousand and six.
This is before anything had happened on our place that
we were aware of. But uh, I was going fishing
with my cousin Greg, and it was it was late June,
and it was real foggy out and we were we
(18:00):
were going down this road and then we see somebody
like walking through the fog, you know, two or three
hundred feet down and then all of a sudden, it's
just an outline of a figure. We assumed it was
a person, and it could have been a person but
this is just something strange that had happened before that.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I can't say I definitively saw one then.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But as soon as we'd come down the road, this
thing is just walking towards us, which we believe as
a person, and all of a sudden, it just turns
right and bolts into this really thick brush.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
And I say, right.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Then to my cousin Greg, I was like, and I
wonder who that was. And then my cousin Greg goes,
maybe it was a bigfoot, and he's just saying it
in that way, like you know, we were both thinking
that that was a possibility, but we were too far
away to have like any clear definition or you know,
being able to gauge anything on size.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
It all just happened so fast, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Is there as you mentioned fishing and all that, And
I dug in and I did my homework a little bit,
and there's a river that actually flows near the reservation.
Am I correct? And is that a big part of
the life there of fishing throughout the ages was that,
you know, how they made their money way back when,
with fishing wheels and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I mean, there is people that are like commercial fishermen
and that's a significant portion of their income. But for
the most time, it's more like a part time gig
that people have during the different salmon runs. But we
have the Chehalis River, which is the biggest of the two,
and then we also have the Black River, which is
a tributary to the Chehalis, and both of them are
on the reservation.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
How important do you think that is to the Sasquatch
to having waterways like that? Do you think they use
them for travel? Obviously they must, you know, they love fish,
you know who fresh fish, you know, big fish too.
You know we're now we're talking. You got steelhead there too.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Correct, Yeah, we have a we have a we have a.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Coho run, a steelhead run, and a and a chinook run,
and so those are the those are the main runs
that we have in the river. But yeah, I think
it's I think it's a very important thing. And as
far as like where our properties positioned, like where we're
positioned right here where the we're the last place on
the reservation on this side, and so the Chalis River
(20:23):
is about a half mile away from us.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Do you think they come to your property because they're
coming through to the rivers I'm sure with all the
audio that you've guy done, you've probably gathered over the
years which direction they're coming from when they come from.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Well, well, on our property, there's a there's a creek
that's directly behind us that also flows into the Chehalis River.
And so I mean, I think they if I was
to guest, I think that they would prefer to, you know,
be close to a water source as often as possible,
especially with you know, I mean with water you don't
(21:01):
just have fish, but you got you know, frogs and
all the other critters that are down.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
There right right, and you need water to drink and
all that stuff too.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
And U or if you're hunting deer, you know deer,
do you need a water source? Yeah? I think I
think the waterways play, you know, a.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Significant role in the places around the area where you
know they're seeing.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
How about aquifers, Do you guys have aquifers or around
like the underground springs or any of that in the area.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I have heard that there's a that there's actually an
underground river like nearby.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I find that fascinating. You hear a lot in different
areas that the aquifer is a thing that for some
reason that there's sasquatch activity around them. I don't know
why I couldn't tell you that. Again, like we talked
on the phone, I told you I'm not the big
foot guru. I just I just have my opinion, just
like the next guy. So I'm not I'm not stating facts.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
So I don't think. I don't. I don't really think
there's any of us that can do that, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Right right? And would you wait? So why have you
been so lucky over the years to have so many experiences?
I mean, how many times have you seen them? Now?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Well, I mean when things were first happening, you know,
twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, I was thinking like, oh man,
this is like easy to have activity because I had
I had four sightings all together, including that being including
you know, seeing through thermal But uh, I have not
(22:30):
seen one since then, and I've It's it's not that
it's not that difficult to like be in a location
like ours where you spend a lot of time outside,
it's not necessarily that difficult to hear one every now
and then. But hearing them and seeing them is two
completely different things.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Right right right now? You have some you have some
pretty really really good thermal footage. I've looked at it
one hundred times, and I've seen your explanation on your
channel of how deep that little ledge was in back
that is standing up mm hmm. Before we show it,
we'll get where we're we're cruising right along in the
time already so wet.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
And also also like this area that you're looking at,
like right back here, this is the this is the
area where you're looking at it.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
So you could have some type of perspective as.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
To you know where it's coming up, and you know
how far of a drop down that you would have.
And over in this area where I'm pointing, that's where
that creek is. And then right over there is.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The Cheles River.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
All right, so we're gonna we're gonna play that video
now for everybody. If there's never nobody's ever seen it.
It's a pretty good, a really really good video. Uh
and as my hands bleed and hold on two seconds, weird,
(23:58):
sorry about that. All right, Well, you'll be able to
describe everybody that's going on in the video because you're
going to be right next to it when we pull
it up. So, what was what time of the year,
was this recorded, Jonathan.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
This was on.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
October thirtieth of twenty thirteen. And you want me to
explain what was happening right.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Prior to that?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yep, yep, Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So I think this is a I think this is
a significant reason why we were able to capture what
we did was because it's approaching that time of year
with that field that you saw right behind me that
floods when you know, the high waters come, so a
couple times a year that.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Field gets covered with water and on.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
At that time, there was a bunch of cows behind
us and they were getting they were getting moved off
to different pastures on higher ground, and on that particular night,
like they were making a law noise because half of
them were moved away, and you know, they're getting separated
from their families, and so they were just doing a
lot of like crying and bellowing and just making all
(25:08):
kinds of noise, even to the point where we didn't
put out audio that night because we didn't think anything
would be captured because the cows were just making so
much noise in they're like right behind us. But it
was in the it was in the midst of all
of that that like right behind my brother Ben and
I there was or right in front of us, I
(25:29):
should say, there was the cows that were you know
that you could see in the thermal video. But there
was one point pretty close to where I'm sitting at there.
I heard this tapping and I was thinking like, okay,
I'm gonna get the thermal camera out. And this thermal camera,
(25:49):
this one we had replaced Derek and David had replaced
it with that monocular that didn't record. This one did
have onboard recording capabilities. So I was scanning through it
and I wasn't that familiar with the device. I mean
I wasn't even like adjusting the lens for clarity or
anything like that because I was just unfamiliar with it.
(26:12):
But at first, and it was close to it's close
to where I was where I'm sitting right now, and
I'm looking at it from about one hundred and twenty
feet away from here. It was I see this like
what looks like kind of a human shaped head on
the ground with a body, and I'm thinking like, okay,
what am I looking at here? And I look at
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the camera to see where the record buttons are and
how you get it recording. I'm not able to get
it recording, and so when I put the camera back up,
it had changed positions and that's where you see this
berm right behind me, where it's at the chest up
right there. And I thought I was recording, but what
(26:53):
I was doing was I mean I was, I was
taking snapshots and then I realized it wasn't recording. I
tell my brother Ben, I was like, hey, I'm not
getting it's not recording. I'm just taking snapshots. And so
I hand the camera to him and then he gets
it recording at that time, and it goes for two
minutes and twenty seconds, and then the camera just turns
(27:14):
off at that point. I don't know what the reason
for that was. There's been speculation by David Ellis that
thought that the camera had an auto shutdown feature on it.
I don't know if that's the case, but I do
know that that camera had to be sent back at
least once because there was there were some faulty issues
with it. So I don't know if it was what
(27:35):
it was. But the stops at two minutes and twenty seconds.
We're able to get the camera back on, but at
this point there's.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Nothing there anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
And we looked all around and it was just it
was just we think it was just there momentarily, you know.
But I think that's close to enough. Right, we'll get
explanation on it.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
It's there. You can talk about it more. Because you
got to be right next to the screen. You can
tell everybody what's going on. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah, so where you're where, you're seeing it at the chest,
it's coming up from that field.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
The top of the berm is what you're seeing.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
At its chest. You'll eventually see a cow walk by.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
There's been people that have talked about like, oh, it's
a cow and you know a bunch of different cows
that are congregated together and everything like that. And when
you're watching the video, there's not a it doesn't appear
to have like a whole lot of movement. But uh,
I've never talked to this guy before, but I did
watch Uh, I did watch this YouTube. Guy he used
(28:52):
to his channel still there in the video is still there.
His name's a Bigfoot Tony. He's from the UK, and
so I saw him when a trying to like stabilize
he was trying to stabilize everything, and you know, quickly move.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It and fast forward to see what kind of movement, and.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You could clear that you could clearly see when he
was doing that that it was it was actually making
a lot more movement than you could realize, like watching
it through the camera, but it was just doing it
so slowly.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Well obviously there's the cow, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
But as as he was speeding it up and everything
like it was in fact one solid, one solid subject
that was moving around.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
No.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I've seen some of the blown up steel shots and
that you can see that on your channel also, and
it's it's pretty impressive. You can see muscular you know,
you can see muscles.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
And and there's also.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Sarah had asked at the time, the rancher that was
leased in that field behind us. Sarah had asked him
if he had ever had any cows go missing, or
any calves or anything. He was like, nope, not even
a calf. And so there has been people that have asked, like, okay, well,
if there's a if there's a sasquat, tright there, help them.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
The kelves weren't afraid of it.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And I mean, in my opinion, it's not it's not
that I know, but I would guess that they're somewhat
used to them coming around, and they've never been harmed
by him.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
No different than you know, most.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
People don't hurt cows, except for I guess when they're
slaughtering them.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
So well, let's take care of the cow.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
They know.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
How how steep is that inclining back, it was like
six seven eight feet right to the ground from the bank.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I'd say it's more like twelve or thirteen feet, but
I mean it's not it's not like it's not vertical.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
It's kind of a gentle burm, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Right, But then the camera goes off and then you
get it back on and then it's gone. Do you
think it was waiting for the opportunities something like that
to happen, for it to make its move, because you
hear a lot about that also.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I'm not I'm not sure if if it was. I'm
not sure if it was able to see us at
that time, but it may have been. But the cows
were making so much noise they were putting on a show.
I was under the impression that the sasquatch was basically
coming in and saying, like, Hey, what's going on here?
What's all the commotion about? You know, and so that's
(31:36):
what I think. I think those cows being so loud
is what drew the sasquatching.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
And it was.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
In the following days like where it was positioned uh
there we had got some we had got some plaster
to we had found tracks where it was positioned at,
and we had got some plaster. We took Sarah had
taken h video and photos of the of the tracks,
but she only cast one of the tracks, the clearest one,
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and it was it had it had like in the
mid part of it, like there was like a little
bit of a kind of a bend in it, as
if there's some you know, flexibility, and but from from
the heel to the to the top of the foot,
I mean, even with that little bit of a flex
in there, it was about fourteen and a half inches,
So if it was completely straightened out, I would think
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that it would be like closer to sixteen.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Do you think that you were in the middle of
a hunt possibly? Do you think they were there to
take a cow or do you think it was there
to take a cow or what's your opinion? Why you
owe obviously you said because they were making a ruckus,
But do you think that you guys might have stumbled
in on a hunt.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I don't think so, because just because the rancher that was,
you know, lease in the field, he had said that,
you know, he had never had a cow go missing,
and so I I don't I don't think that was
the case. I'm not saying that it wasn't. It could
have been, but I think it was just there out
of curiosity to see what was going on with the
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cows were making such a commotion about.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
So have over the years, have has has I don't
know how to say it. Has it has it intensified?
Have you Have you heard language or anything like that?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
I think you?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I sent you a couple of audio recordings where you
hear I kind of sounds like singing where there's when
I when I first heard that, I don't remember, like
there's probably a date on that audio clip that I
had sent you, But I'm coming outside and I hear like.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, and I'm like.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
As soon as I heard that, I was like hell,
and I walked right inside because like I was just
like it sounded like little girls singing in the back
of the woods, and like at that at that time
of night, I was just thinking like if that was
a little girls, that's creepier to me than like if
there was a sasquatch back there. And there was another
(34:18):
one where one of the recordings that I had sent
to you, where my brother Ben and I were outside
and we had heard on the other side of the
road we hear this yeah yeah, yeah, like and it
you can't really make it out on the audio recording itself,
(34:40):
but it totally sounded like talking to us and in person.
It doesn't sound feminine on the audio recording, but on
the in person it did have kind of a feminine
tone to it.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
At least that was the impression that we were under.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Okay, so you got one from sid Stember, you got
one from October, and you got one from November. We'll
play the one from September first, Okay. I got them
all loaded up and then you can tell everybody which
ones which. So here's the one from September. Okay, so
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that's the first one.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
I couldn't on my end, I couldn't tell what that
sounded like.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Uh did everybody? Can anybody else hear it is loud enough?
Let me see, mhm see anybody in chat? Was that
loud enough for you guys to hear it. Yeah, no,
it was plentny loud, and you didn't hear it. So
(36:03):
that one, that one sounded like you just said, I
think it was with your brother. I went, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, it sounded it sounded like.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
We were just under the impression that it sounded like,
you know, like it was talking down to something or
to one of them, you know.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Because you can hear another subject, you know, kind of
like grumbling like it wasn't you know, like okay, you know,
like you get over here now, And it was like
it was, you know, okay, mom, I gotta come over.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That's but when we had just to just to make
sure that it couldn't have possibly been like a person,
and we had a as soon as we heard that,
we went out to the road in the opening and
scanning the area and no.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
There wasn't. It's not like there was anybody walking around
at that time. But that's that's what we heard.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Audio was such a great tool to have. I mean,
he really did it. Answer yeh, all right, We're gonna
play the next one. This one's from October. H Did
(37:27):
you hear that one at all?
Speaker 7 (37:28):
I didn't. I didn't hear it. I don't know if
it was it was.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
I think I sent you one that was called five
long howls or something like that. And then then there's
that one that I explained sounded like the girls singing.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
That's the girls singing when the five howls is next. Okay,
so we're what's the five girls singing? So well, what's
your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Well, it wasn't five girls singing, but what sounded like
the little girls singing? I don't know what it was like.
It was just as soon as I heard that, I
did not come back outside.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
It was just that was just too creepy. And so
I was like, nope, I'm setting this one out.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Well it's from your house.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
So the next one is the is the the house?
Play it out right now?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
H h.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
H h.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
H m hmm.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Okay, where is the file of them? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
And as far as that one goes, I can't recall
if I had if I had heard that live or not.
There's been quite a few times that we've heard, you know,
those extended calls and also like the deep roars, but uh,
I can't recall if I had heard that one live
or not. So there's a good possibility I did, and
(39:28):
there's a good possibility that it was an audio clip
that was you know, just captured at like, you know,
between two or four o'clock in the morning. And I
missed a question that you had asked me, is it like,
as you know, things intensified, and like, how different is
it now versus you know, things in twenty and thirteen.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I don't really, I don't really know that I have
a that I have an accurate answer to that.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I mean, it definitely seems like things were more active
in a twenty thirteen specifically, I don't I don't know
if there was a reason.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
For you know, closer behavior and things like that, but.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
It has not been we haven't experienced it to that
level like since then.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But there's a couple of things that are different.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
It's like during that time period, like I would I
would stay out till midnight, even on work nights, and
so I was able to like hear a lot more then,
and it seemed like there was kind of a sweet
spot between like eleven eleven PM and much later, And
according to the audio, I would say that that was
probably about like between like eleven and four o'clock or
(40:40):
so in the morning. But I haven't been I haven't
been spending nearly the amount of time outside that I
haven't back then, So I don't know that I don't
know that.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
How much different it has changed.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I would still suspect that twenty thirteen that it was
more active at that time, but I can't say that
for certain, but that it isn't like it isn't like we're.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
It isn't like these things are our neighbors and you know, just.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Always around like we're just I think we're our properties positioned.
We're just kind of at a at a pinch point
where you know, they pass through. It could be could
be just a few minutes. But when they do, like
they come through and it's they're not there for very long.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Have any of your children had any interactions with them?
Have they seen them? Have they heard them? Have they?
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:38):
But because of like they've they've known sasquatches rerual their
whole lives, and so I can't They don't want me
to like really ever speak on any of their anything
that they've ever had happened, but like they have had
I'm not saying which kids have had anything happen, but
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they have had knocking.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
On their windows and things that night.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Oh jeez, are you worried about that? Were you? I mean,
obviously over time I have found that you were more
was more worried about them at first than I am.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
Now I wouldn't say that I'm worried about it.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
I think there was a reason for that is because
at the time they had put up they had put
up these these lights at the ceiling of their bedroom
just to try to make their room look cool and
things like that. But when you would look at it
from the outside, like like the coloration that you would
see from the window when it's dark out, I mean,
it really does look like those lights are like putting
(42:41):
on a show. And so I think that it would
just be like more of a curiosity thing more than anything.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
But no, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I wouldn't say that I'm worried about the sasquatch like
doing anything. But I also I also am not one
of those people that like thinks that you know, they're
my forest friends or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We got a question for you from the from the
chat room. El Santrigue asks, is there any any dog
man sightings on the reservation.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
I'm not aware of any.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Man.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Somebody had somebody had brought that up to me, and
not far away from me is probably about twenty minutes
or so, twenty five minutes.
Speaker 7 (43:25):
There's this area.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Called may Town and apparently there's there's people who have
reported seeing a dog man over in that area. Whether
it's true or not, I don't know, Okay, but as
far as as far as Washington goes, as far as
dog man goes, that's the only thing that I've ever heard,
and I don't know if it happened or not.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Good. So, you guys got to travel and bone like
I got. I love to travel and meet new people.
I love to go look at different areas. And I
see that you guys just got from Bluff Creek. You
just did a nice video on that. If you guys
haven't catched that, yeah, you should go watch that one. Well,
what was your favorite experience that Bluff Creek down there?
Speaker 7 (44:11):
I mean, I I just think it was kind of cool, like.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Just seeing all of the surrounding area, Like it makes
sense that it makes sense that you know there is
sasquatch still in the area. There's people that have had
experiences in recent years. Yeah, it's it's definitely a place
I'd like to go back. It's it's gorgeous out that way.
(44:36):
And obviously the obviously the Patterson Gilman you know film
site is you know, something to see. I didn't personally
go down there because of a of a knee problem
that I developed a couple of months ago.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
So but Sarah did go down there.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
All right. We got a question from a Squatch mama,
Yes do you find of coast? I can't say. I
don't know how to say the words Solish? Is it Solish?
Did I get right?
Speaker 7 (45:06):
Slish?
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Salish? Salish folklore? And the sounds that you've recorded, do
any of the recordings reinforce ancestral stories?
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I mean, I'm not a I'm not a that aware
of like the ancestral stories of them, you know, being
real vivid on the kind of vocalizations that they would make.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
I mean, I would say so to a.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Degree, because you know they're like the whistling and stuff
that happens, and you know there's there's you know, old
Indians that also think like that. You know, whistling that
you hear in the woods isn't from Sasquatch, but it's
from little people. And that's a whole different topic. I'm
not saying that. I'm not saying that I know, but
in my opinion, I think the whistling is from sasquatches.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
It's a common it's a common thing, and you can
tell the difference in an a lip whistle compared to
a bird whistle. And no, definitely you know it's a
lipless We got one here, uh and the two girls
to my two teammates on the team were in the
back of me. I'm like so excited. I'm like, girls school,
did you hear that was a lip whist? So that
was a lip whistle? Did you hear the little kid
(46:22):
in the kid he story? That just reminds me that, well,
you can tell the difference between the bird and lips,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
So mh where'd you have? That? Happen?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
At here in Connecticut? Northwest Connecticut and at one of
the state forests. It's on my channel if you want
to look at it, I'll just send you the video.
You can hear. Like, we recorded it on three different
cameras and the recorders on our backs, and the girls
actually seen one that day. The two girls had witnessed
at whatever whistled at So it was pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
Pretty they saw it.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
They saw it. Yeah, and I handed Mary, the youngest
one on my team, the camera, but she never used
it before and that was my mistake. Mary, just point
it in the direction, just point it, point it, and
she's got the cameras going all over the place, but time,
and that's pretty cool. Yeah, the whistle was on video.
Everything's right there for.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
People to say, so, yeah, I don't have to look
at that.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Yeah, it was a cool It was a cool day
for sure. We had a lot of crazy stuff happen here.
How about gifts you guys received gifts, anything like that,
And if if you guys want questions, we're nearing the
hour mark here, so if you got a question for Jonathan,
please put it in capital letters then we'll get them
out to them.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
Like do we uh, do we leave Sasquatch gifts?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
That done that? Get a gift, leave a gift? Have
you ever tried any of that?
Speaker 6 (47:40):
I mean, like when I had seen the one in
the daylight, when Sarah and I were out there, we
were putting some food out there because it was just like,
you know, we were attempting to like try to draw
them in, but after that, not so much.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
I mean sometimes sometimes sometimes we'll.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Like Sarah has you know, dropped off some like apples
and just left them there.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
But that it's even something like that's not very common.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
So no, it's not like we're it's not like we're
constantly feeding anything or even doing it very often. And
as far as like receiving gifts, uh no, I'm not
aware of anything like that.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
Okay, I got a question right here from that. We
have many small yallery reports here in Australia. Oh well,
Australia Indigenous know them very well. But most of that noisy,
the sacred, and we need to respect that. First nations
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is where the truth is.
Speaker 7 (48:44):
I thought it was a question.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Oh no, it's sorry, it was very act asked the
question nothing, but that was a cool Hello Australia. Anyways,
that's very cool. Nothing. How has your connection to Indigenous
teachings and traditions shaped the way you interpret sasquatch encounters,
both your own and those shared with you by others?
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Like, how has it shaped and changed? Is that? What
the question was?
Speaker 5 (49:11):
How is your connection to the Indigenous teachings introduced and
shaped the way to interpret Sasquatch encounters.
Speaker 7 (49:21):
I don't really know that I have an answer to that.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
I've I've you know, heard Indians all my life talking
about you know, experiences that they've had. But uh, I
guess I've I guess I've just always been a believer.
I don't know that. I don't know that like I
have a I don't know that I have a real
like uber Indian answer to that, you know. I mean,
(49:46):
it's I wouldn't say that, like I wouldn't say that,
like anything culturally comes into play. There is things that
there's things that we have on the reservation that are
different than a lot of places, and that is like,
you know, you're brought up the fishing, and so at
(50:09):
different times of year there's you know, guild nets that
are in the river. I mean maybe that has maybe
that has you know, I would imagine that that has,
you know, been something that Sasquatch we're aware of the like, Okay,
they just put these gill nets in the river, they
pull them in and they're full of fish. I think
(50:29):
I think something like that is a possibility as to
you know, why there's a lot of activity in the
area as well.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Is Tasquatch like a big part of your heritage. I mean,
is it a big pair of the tribe or is
it just you know, something that you're experiencing is.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
I don't know about I mean, I would say most
people on the reservation believe in Sasquatch, but you know,
there's still there's still people that don't. There's still people
that maybe maybe they're kind of a defence on it.
But I would say the majority, uh believe it. And
as far as uh, as far as I go on
our reservation, I wouldn't even necessarily consider us like that
(51:10):
special compared to like some other people in different locations
that have had, you know, the same amount of activity
and in the last in the last year specifically, some
some people not far from us had had have had
far more activity than we've had.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Do you get called to them those places? Do they
call you and have you come over and you know,
get to hang out with them overnight or any stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
No, it's not really like that, but it's you know,
in when the when the topic comes up, you know,
we'll we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
Well that you should, I mean, Green Interactions is a
lot of great.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
Yeah, and then there is.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
Uh, there is people that you know, like, have sent
me stuff in the Okay, check out this picture that
we got from the other side of the reservation of
like a footprint and things like that.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Stone Picker asked, have you ever have you ever thought
that they could read your mind?
Speaker 7 (52:06):
No, I know a lot of people. I know a
lot of people you know saying that they can. I'm not.
Speaker 6 (52:13):
I'm not saying that they I'm not saying that they can't.
But like, it's just not one of those things that
I believe.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Have you ever seen orbs or anything like that? Oh,
I'm the I think the orb is its own phenomenon
that just happens to show up in Sasquat Cherry's. Have
you ever witnessed the orbs?
Speaker 7 (52:32):
I have not. Not so much on our property.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
There's there's some there are some weird lights that we
have you know, seen in the past near our property.
But uh, in other other locations that I've gone with friends,
when you know we were in you know, good zones
for bigfoot where Yeah, there's there's been quite a few
times that we've not I wouldn't say quite a few
(52:58):
times a handful of time times that we've seen strange
lights that you know, we couldn't we couldn't place. And
you know, it does seem like it does seem like, oh,
you're in a you're in a bigfoot area. It seems
like there's a close relation. But I just like you
were saying, I personally think that it's its own independent phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
I agree with you, right. We got a couple couple
more questions we're at we're at the five five of
Mark and uh got a birthday party to head out to,
so time for two more Alesandrique asks, does your do
you try to believe they are supernatural?
Speaker 6 (53:40):
I've heard I've heard, uh, I've heard people put blanket
statements on you know a lot of different tribes that like,
this tribe believes this and that I think that from
all the people in different tribes that I've talked to,
including my own, I think that it's split just as
much as it is, like, you know, these people think
(54:01):
that they're you know, flesh and blood creatures.
Speaker 7 (54:04):
These people think that.
Speaker 6 (54:05):
They're interdimensional and you know, they can you know, access
they can like walk between worlds, and there's some.
Speaker 7 (54:15):
That just don't believe that they're real at all. So
I think that I think it's.
Speaker 6 (54:19):
Pretty close to the same as like the general population
that are, you know, into the subject or not into
the subject, you know, except the only exception would be
far more believe that Sasquatch are real than the general
public does, and whether it's real like interdimensional or flesh
and blood like they believe in sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
So we're at the hour mark. I appreciate you giving
us that we're gonna have to have you back because
I got a ton more questions than we have to
have Sarah on too.
Speaker 7 (54:50):
So yeah, she said she she said she would definitely
do it.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
So and I intentionally, I intentionally didn't cover like some
of the stuff that I knew that she would go
over because some of it's just not my story to tell.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
But we're gonna have to have you back to for sure.
Speaker 7 (55:07):
All right, Well, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
Yeah, I really appreciate it too. What do you got
coming up before you head out? What's coming up for
Jonathan Brown?
Speaker 7 (55:17):
Next week?
Speaker 6 (55:18):
I'm going on a going on a camp out with
about between thirty five and forty other people. We're gonna
be getting out in the Gifford pin show for us,
and we'll be there for about five days or so,
so that should be a good time. Where positioned in
a spot where that I think is as good as
any place to be. So, you know, fingers crossed, maybe
(55:40):
we'll have you know, some something happened.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Well, when are you gonna see Boyd again?
Speaker 7 (55:47):
Man? I hope to see Boyd sooner than later. I
love Boyd.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
Yeah, Boyd's one hell of a guy.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (55:53):
I never met anything Boddy like Boyd. He's a really, really,
really really good guy.
Speaker 7 (55:57):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
The last of my song was in in January at
squatch Fest.
Speaker 7 (56:03):
He surprised everyone and showed up there.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, yeah, I knew he was coming. He actually did
the show from up there when he was there.
Speaker 7 (56:11):
Oh that's right. I think I remember him saying something
about that.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Yeah I was there. Yeah, it was great, great, all right. Well,
if I want to say a big thank you, everybody
in the audience had a great time and the chat
room was great as always. So uh, you know, push
you backstage and if say goodnight to everybody, and then
if you want to hang out for a couple of minutes,
I'll say good night when I get done, all right,
(56:35):
all right, everybody, ladies and gentlemen. Mister Jonathan Brown, all right,
all right, all right, what a great show. I want
to say thank you for everybody showing up tonight being
kind in the chat room. We will have Jonathan back
(56:58):
for more questions and we'll have Sarah coming on, so
we we're gonna set that all up tonight. We had
to go. So that's that's the way the cookie crumbles,
that's the way it happens. So little news. We started
filming our first documentary. It is called The Winstead wild Man.
Me and Mike Lucy from the Adirondacks. I've teamed up
(57:22):
and we are filming it ourselves and doing it. We
figured out that both of us each needed a hand,
and we're filling in the spaces for each of us
and we are filming that now and look forward to
getting that out to you sooner than later. So that's exciting.
I've been wanting to do that for a long time.
So thank you Mike for coming in. And it's gonna
(57:43):
be good. We started filming already and we're gonna be
filming again in two more weeks and hopefully that'll wrap
up the filming. So next week I got the boss
on the show, got mister Doug Hicheck and Joey Bagga
Donuts his best friend, and it's going to be called
The show is going to be called Nell Grove before
Monster Quest. You're gonna hear stories that would between Doug
(58:05):
and Joe they went up there for thirty years, and
they went there before Monster Quest even happened and had
strange stuff happen. So you're gonna hear all the stories
that you've never heard before. And I had the honor
of hearing when I was up there with them. So yeah,
that's what's coming up. So thank you all. And as
my friend Larry says, get in the woods people.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Best to sleep. World should be dead. Is this something
that have time.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
To think that it was God? I cannot be myself.
Speaker 6 (59:32):
Once in a wild.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I get tired talking. I'm good on the smile and
let my alter e go wherever the stays were show.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
The screen can be a streams
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Play, so
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