Squatchin' Holler #10 Bluff Creek Bigfoot and the Humboldt Hum with Glenn

Glenn AKA "Bigfoot Dwarf" joins us live to talk about his boots on the ground Bigfoot investigations in California and Oregon. You can find him on youtube @Bigfootdwarf4200

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Squatching Holler.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
In the midst where the trees lean loom.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Squatching Holler's gotta tail.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
The show wisps creep like creature's faint out. Every shadows
got a secret to crowd Monsters rise? Where the stories
are too? Squatching hollow where the legends are born?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Are they? Are they gone?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Who can say?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
In the hollow of the truth just lifts way, Huge
footprints fade where the creek runs, thin lantern sways. Let

(01:23):
the search begin, rustling waves, but there's no one near.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Is it the wind or the beast?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
You fear?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Everywhere goes a question. Every Russell's a clue. Squatching hollis
got its eyes on you.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Monsters.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
The stories are torn?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Swatching How where the legends are born?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Are they gone?

Speaker 6 (01:52):
Who can say the truth? Not say?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Now with your Squatching Holler hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers,
and Ashley Raymonds. Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere
great podcasts are found. And now the show.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
Hey, I'm Neilma fan and I'm listening to Squatch and Holler.
And if you're hearing me say this, you are too,
which means you have excellent taste cheers.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh, that was so cool.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
That was awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Naom was a friend of the show, y'all. She did,
she did a couple of shows with us because we
had a technical difficulties and we started over one night.
So there's part one, part two on the old Squatch
and Holler. And she has a terrifying Bigfoot experience and
she's a master storyteller. So just y'all go give out

(02:57):
and the.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Watch for it for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But we made it, y'all. We've been scrambling backstage. Glenn's
with us aka Bigfoot Dwarf, and I believe he went
by another name before, but I'm not. I won't ask
him about that. But how's it been going.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
It's been going good. Everything's been wide open.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
It is a fall festival season here in North Georgia.
I believes they're starting to turn, so all the leaf
lookers are on their way up here. The apple orchards
are wide open, and everybody in their neighbors up here
right now. So it's getting a little busy and a
little crazy already.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You probably don't want to hear me say this, but
that area this time of year. In the next couple
of weeks, you can't beat it. You couldn't grab a
ticket on a plane and go anywhere in the world
and find any place more beautiful than Northeast Georgia, North
Georgia and all the smokies and all that. But I
think y'all have this. I think y'all have it beat.

(03:55):
But Amanda's like, shut up, Roger.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
No, I can't say it live here.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
And yes, a lot of the all the influx of
people up here aggravate me some days, but I can't.
I can't say I don't blame them. It's it's gorgeous business. Yeah,
I drive up and down, look at the trees, and yeah,
it's it's nice, all right, all things in life.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Right, Yes, that's right. And sometimes we don't appreciate it
enough in the areas we live, you know, until somebody
else brings it up. And Glenn lives in an awesome area,
if you If y'all have watched any big Foot dwarfs,
I say like documentaries or I like to call it
like a walk along. I love those type videos because

(04:38):
I'll probably never get there, right, And in watching a
video like like he does, he's so calm, he's such
a chill guy and if there is a film crew,
he he hangs back and he's talking and you really
get to see what the terrain looks like. And he
explains where he's at, what he what he's doing, and

(05:00):
and some of the history as he goes along. And
if you're like me, you're watching up in the trees
and when he pans around, you know. So yeah, mss
Bobby she said, love love his channel. Me too, And
I think there's not enough of that. We try to
do it some, but that lets the people that can't well,

(05:24):
that will never be there, have an idea. When when
somebody said they talk about Bluff Creek or whatever, it
doesn't look like you know, you get that those frames
that Patterson caught, and then Glenn and his friends go
up with equipment and clean up the area so other
people can enjoy it. So it's grown up. And anyway,

(05:44):
we'll we'll bring him on here and y'all get ready
because he's a storyteller. I love it.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Good evening, Amanda Roger, everybody in the chat and everybody
else listening out there. Uh, thank you, thank you for
having me on. I appreciate the invite.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm honest. Oh look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Uh you know, you you try to figure out who
you want to give. And of course, if you don't
see anybody on another show, it's hard to judge or whatever.
And I saw you on it was with Jerry and

(06:26):
Jeff Milkman, and it was great. Uh old line cryptis
if y'all y'all go back and check that out. I was.
I was sitting there like, why have I had? Have
I not? Haven't had his own before? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And usually I'm watching YouTube and so I'm on the
other side of things and the chat side of things,
and and but here we are. You know how life
works sometimes, and uh yeah, I appreciate invite and I'm
glad everything worked out and we're all here, and yes, excited.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I just hate that it took so long. But it
happens when it's supposed to exactly. I think now watching
I believe it because you're not a flashy guy. I mean,
I don't you know what I mean, You're not out
doing the conferences and all that. And and then you know,
and I look up and I'm watching Small Town Monsters
and I'm like, wait a minute, I know who that

(07:24):
guy is. What kind of experience is that. I mean,
those guys they seemed awful chill too.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, it was it was pretty cool in Haw that
worked out. It was it was organically done. I had
no idea really that Alex Pettakov was going to be
up that way. My buddy Jonathan Easily from Western Bigfoot
Explorations another great YouTube channel, and these guys really do
the documentaries. I'm just I'm starting to like dabble with

(07:54):
it and put longer videos together. I have a lot
of just short little videos and I never really got
into the whole like video editing and all this other
stuff that comes along even with like live streaming and
podcasting and stuff. It's all a bunch of stuff I'm
learning now and I'm like, Okay, I guess I got
to learn this stuff to be able to do what
I want to do. And so here we are, you know,

(08:15):
a little by little figuring things out and yeah, and
running into folks like you is always great. And I
enjoy your shows, you know, I catch your live streams
when you would do Love the Lives and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (08:28):
And uh, some funny moments which we all go to
here that that was for backstage but yeah, and then
having a partner like Amanda is just yeah, a blessing man.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
And I enjoy your your vibe. You two definitely work
well together, and thanks.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
And yeah, what happened with me and Roger getting together,
like you just said, it was all organic.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
It just happens.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I love it. You know. I saw her take
kind of like you. I saw her on TikTok and
I will go away from some of her videos that
was making me, you know, hmm, make me think. And
then she was on the show and I'm like, you
know what, I'd love to have her as a co host,
and and I was. I was just as shocked as

(09:15):
anybody when she said yes, So uh, I'm glad she did.
It's uh, you know, I think good people attract good people,
and and we and you know, you can pick up
somebody's vibe. You can even you may not say anything,
and you won't call it out, you'll never nobody will

(09:35):
ever know because you'll keep it here. But I think
I think good people draw good people. So uh, I
feel like you're one of the good guys. And uh,
we we appreciate you. I was excited when you said
you'd come on, because we try to focus like east
of the Mississippi, but we're we want to we want

(09:57):
to include everybody because you know, we went for years
I was hoping Bigfoot was only in your way as
a kid. You know, then I have things happen like,
oh oh no, that's not true. So now we're kind
of start focusing on here in this county mainly, and
then the surrounding counties. But speaking of counties, you were

(10:19):
in one of the the hot spots of the world,
the most famous ones. Yeah, it How did what made
Glenn want to go by himself to maybe like Bluff
Creek or some of these famous places when you first went.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
So currently I'm at we have a smoke shop skate
shop here in East Los Angeles, so I'm currently at
the shop. And I grew up out here in Los Angeles,
actually Hollywood out of all places, and at some point
in my life I was just like ready for change,
and I ended up in the Redwoods. To give up
the Hollywood for the Redwood. It was just mind blowing.

(11:00):
When I first got up there, I fell in love
with those trees and just the environment up there, the
ocean and the rivers, and stuff, and not really knowing
that the Patterson situation had happened up there. But the
presence of the bigfoot culture. You see it when you
head up that way heading up, and actually you see

(11:21):
it a lot more throughout this part of California now too.
It seems like big food's just popular everywhere, but especially
in northern California. You know, you start seeing a lot
of storefronts and businesses using it as their logos, and
you know, the redwood cutouts and uh, you know, just
stickers and shirts and all the merch and stuff, and

(11:44):
so it's you know, I just knew that bigfoot, you know,
and you could tell you sense it when you get
into those redwoods. You just sense this vibe that something
else is out there, and and it could just be
the trees themselves too, but yeah, you could. Just it's
just the squatchy vibe that people talk about, you know,

(12:04):
it feels squatchy.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
We use that word a lot.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
I like that for myself. It fits because else do
you describe it?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (12:15):
And uh and so yeah, So I first went to
visit a friend that was going to school that it
used to be Humboldt State, but it's APAULI now and uh,
and so I just visited for a short amount of time.
I think it was about a month at that time.
But since then, I had returned the following year and
it was for this festival music festival. It's a big

(12:37):
reggae festival that they have up there. And since then
I have made it a ritual every year to head
up north. And there was these other music festivals. I'm
big into music, you know, a DJ on the side
and stuff like that, and and so yeah, I just
it was a yearly thing. We would head up there.
At the time, I had a seventy three Volkswagen bus
and I would pack it up and yeah, I head

(12:59):
up into the woods and the party.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
For a bit. And eventually one year I just Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
A friend of mine, a female friend of mine who
lived up that way, had a boyfriend who had a
piece of property up in Humboldt County, and that's kind
of it was. These festivals were like borderline Humboldt County,
northern Mendocino County, and he needed somebody to caretake for
for the land there the property, and we jumped I

(13:29):
jumped on it, a friend of mine, and I did
and made the change, made the move, and had no
idea really what I was getting into, and just got
schooled in in country living, you know, humble living, living
up in the hills, and it was just something, yeah,
totally different than the city. So it was it.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
Was reverse Beverly Hillbillies based.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And I saw a quote that was awesome where people say,
in your area where the woods have woods.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, And so we moved into Honeydew is the name
of the town, and they say they call it they
named it Honeydew because it was one of the sweetest,
if not the sweetest spot in California, and and it
was it was amazing and just was able to, you know,
live up there. You know some people, you know, I
would think back to people friends and stuff back home,

(14:24):
and I was like, yeah, they would not be able to,
you know, hack it out here. But I just, yeah,
I made the smooth transition and then lived there a
few years. Didn't really have anything happened there, but that's
where I learned there was all types of friends and
people that would come by there throughout the years. Lived
there about three four years, and that's where I had

(14:46):
learned someone had brought up you know, we talk Bigfoot
some nights some nights, and someone had brought up that
the Patterson footage was filmed in Humboldt County, which is
technically I learned now it's it's actually in Dell North
Dick County, which is a county above Humble, But several
counties meet in that Bluff Creek area. So you have Humble,
you have del nort County, you have Sisku County and

(15:10):
then Trinity County, which all are Squatchy. You know, Sisku
is where Mount Shasta is, So Mount Shasta is not
too far from Bluff Creek. Actually, you know, something to
keep in mind there if you're into the high Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Ben Shasta several times, never like a summited or anything

(15:30):
like that, but been there several times and always keeping
an eye out for you know, UFOs and the Limerians
and all the strange stuff that people talk about, you know,
the count of Saint Germain and little people and actually
Bluff Creek there there's there's more than bigfoot out there,
and we'll get into that. But so yeah, lived in Honeydow,

(15:51):
that's southern Humble, got schooled there and eventually met my
uh my queen and we ended up moving in together
and also in southern Humble. And actually, to give people
an idea, there was a Netflix documentary and I won't
say the word, but it's it's we say unliving. But
it's at Mountain and so I don't know if you've

(16:13):
seen it. Maybe people have heard of it, but it
focused on some of the dark side of Humble County
and the Emerald Triangle that they call up there because
of the cannabis industry and all that. You know, it
was Humble was actually known for like missing people, and
it was a good place if you want to go
missing for sure, But then there was other stuff, you know,
crime and then other weird stuff you'd ever know, you

(16:35):
know you bigfoot comes up and stuff like that. And yeah,
there's been several films that have come out of Humble.
There's a Willow Creek which is at pretty good one.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
That I like.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
There's Primal Rage, Lost Coast Tapes, and a recent one
that actually a buddy of ours from the Bluff Creek Project,
who will also mention a little later. Rowdy Kelly worked
on Have you seen SaaS Squatch Sunset? Anyone out there?

Speaker 8 (17:04):
Yeah, I saw the the the trailer, and I was like,
I get it as as a film project, as a
film film nerd, I get it. But as far as
like anything else, I'm like, not.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Was that the Was that the one where they didn't
speak the whole time? And oh I saw some of that?

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah yeah, uh And so our buddy Rowdy worked on
on that, and he's worked on several other things having
to do with film and and some of the Bigfoot
related as well. But yeah, so moved to that part
of Humble and so uh, these properties I was staying on.
Both of them were you know, forty acres, so for us,
for me, that was that was a lot of space,

(17:48):
you know, and pretty wooded. And again in the hills
and uh, there was actually another one in uh Afa
Hulu called Sasquatch and it was about like cannabis related
and all this other stuff. Which also I mentioned that
part of southern Humble borders with northern Mendocino and that's
actually on the Mendocino side of things, So there's been

(18:10):
quite of films and videos and stuff that have come
up from that area. But anyway, so living on the
land there, I started really getting into Bigfoot at the time,
and actually my brother in southern California started sending me
a bunch of stuff on YouTube. I wasn't really watching
much TV up there, you know, had a phone and
was able to get onto YouTube luckily, and was checking

(18:33):
out some of these Bigfoot videos and I was like,
you know, oh, you know, tripping out what people were
doing and finding and stuff. And so I started doing
the same around my area. And I started right there
on the land actually, you know, looking for one of
the things where the stick structures and ground lifts and
stuff like that. And I know some people are totally
not into that. I feel like everyone in Bigfoot has

(18:54):
their little niche where they're you're into the feet or
into you know, the structures or just different things. I
feel like everyone has their low, you know place. But yes,
the structures were one of the things. And I found
a few things that caught my attention on the property
and so I was like, h interesting. So at the
bottom of the hill along Highway one on one there's

(19:19):
several Redwood State Redwood State parks, and so along there
I started really finding some stuff and I thought it
was interesting, and yeah, of course it's you know, You're
along a major highway there, and there's this little detour
that takes you through the redwoods there, and so people
go through there. You know, there is traffic of people there,

(19:41):
But at the same time, there is a lot of
a history of reports and stuff like that. So I
started diving into some of that stuff online and then
of course asking locals, hearing stuff from locals. Anytime I
had a chance to get into a conversation with anyone
about the topic, we'd get into it, and you know,
I get some feedback. And then before I knew it,
people started mentioning this name Bobo. They're like, you need

(20:03):
to you need to you need to talk to Bobo.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You I was thinking, I was thinking he lived, he
lived in Homebo County.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, so I had no idea. I didn't know who
Bobo was. But everyone's like, you need to find him.
And before you find Bigfoot, I tell you, trying to
find Bobo is like trying to find Bigfoot. Yeah. So
eventually it happened, and I forget how how it all
worked out. I really got a dig A lot of

(20:31):
things become a blur, especially up that way, but Bobo
and I ended up meeting and I think before that
there was maybe a few other people that I might
have met. I don't know if I had gone to
Bluff Preakyet or not, but eventually I had found So
I met Bobo and it was like, all right, cool,
this is super exciting, and we kept in touch and

(20:55):
and so, yeah, there was at one point where I
got invited up to Bluff Creek. So, but before that,
I was running all up and down the county. My
lady's dad was living in Trinity County, so, which is
the county over and he was up in the hills
there too, so and every once in a while we'd

(21:16):
go check up on him. And so we were up
in the hills of Trinity also, and so we were
all over the place. Anytime I got a chance, I
was out there looking for stuff. And these were all
a lot of the places where reports were coming out
of it in the past and in some current reports.
I'm seeing a lot more now. So I don't know
if it's you know, the online thing or but I'm

(21:38):
starting to hear more reports from up that way. But
a lot of them were historical reports. But I was
doing my little searching and I was finding stuff. You know,
some of the teepee structures, the X structures that people
talk about, and the questions always up in the air,
you know, whether it's you know, people or is it
really a bigfoot or sasquatch out there doing this stuff?

(21:59):
And some of it was you know, really big, like
what you would call a massive structures, and some of
it was really really tiny. And and the places I
would find it and the way I would find it.
Sometimes I feel like I was almost like guided to
these things sometimes.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, and uh, and you.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Know, so I was trying to figure out if there's
any patterns, you know, is there, like you know, is
the river always going by there, is there's some sort
of water source near, you know, just trying to figure
little things out, and and just it just became a thing.
Definitely always looking for a sign like that first and
then and then taking it further, you know, whether camping

(22:39):
there or trying to set up some cameras. Really got
into the gadgets, learning about the different gadgets, audio recorders
and stuff like that, and just you know, you know,
everything comes out of the pocket. So you wish for
you wish for the top notch stuff, but you know,
we get what we could afford and just you know,
putting it to use and uh. And so the Bluff

(23:00):
Creek thing became an annual thing. So I would get,
you know, the phone call from the guys and and
so when I first went up there, I didn't really
know too many people, but everyone was pretty cool and
and I was like, yeah, I could do this. I
think the first time I actually went, I took my
son and so that was a nice experience as well.
And people were already at the film site. And it's

(23:24):
crazy because of the main camp, one of the main camps,
which is Laos Camp and Loos Camp. It goes back
in like history with the people that were you know,
the Four Horsemen and all that and some of the
historical stuff that was already happening before the Patterson film.
You know, that campsite was being used. And I heard
also that even the natives way back would use the

(23:45):
actual Loos Camp for hunting and certain things like that.
Not too sure on that, but so yeah, that's kind
of like our main base camp there. And and we
had no idea where the Patterson footage was. The time.
There was an next sheriff from I think the Los
Angeles area who would who was going up there from

(24:07):
the eighties, and he took us over to where the
film site was. He didn't have to do that, but
it was it was it's quite a mission. It's you're there,
but you still got to you know, it's quite a
way age. You got a hike down to the site
and kind of bushwhacked a bit, and he showed us
how to get there. So it was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
He ended up passing away a few years back and
they released his ashes there at Bluff Creek. Yeah, it's
a special thing. So I always loved Mike for that.
And since then, yeah, it was every year we'd go
up there and get the call. And so since then
it's been about, i want to say, going on maybe
eight nine years and maybe skipping a year or so

(24:48):
here and there. But uh yeah, so recently last year
and throughout those years, there's been you know, I'd never
had a full on sighting like a Patty siding or
anything like that, but you know, a little interesting sounds here,
some knocks or some you know, vocals off of the
distance and stuff like that, and that always kept me
wanting to go back too. So you know, people talk

(25:11):
about Bluff Creek being like squatched out. They say, like,
you know, there's no activity, and you know, but there's stuff,
stuff going on, definitely, And when.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
You talk about going and doing that one of your
you know what documentaries, I'll call it you when you go,
you go for two or three weeks, don't you?

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Well this time I did so last year usually, so
when I would go up there, and even living in
Humbold County, to get to Bluff Creek was a mission still,
you know, be still maybe like a two to two
and a half hour, three hour drive still and you're
in the county already, you know, and it's it's just
like whoa, But yeah, we would only I would only
stay about three days max and then would have to

(25:53):
you know, get back to work or whatever it was.
And and still, you know, that felt like a good
amount of time. But yes, this time around, I was
able to spend Actually last year I went up twice,
once in July with a certain group and then in October.
So it was a blessing to be able to do that.

(26:14):
And actually coming from Los Angeles, so from out here
it's like a eleven twelve hour drive and you know,
gas ain't cheap.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Especially not in Cali, and.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
It was a blessing to be able to make those trips.
And then before I knew it was time to go
again this year. And so last year is when Alex
and the whole STM thing went on there, and that
was exciting. We had some faint vocals that we heard
on one particular night, and we weren't able to record it.
We had all, you know, the guys had the audio

(26:48):
recorders going, We had our thing. It was a night investigation,
and yeah, we started hearing some pops and like some
snaps of twigs and stuff, and then off to one
distance the guys we started hearing some vocals and eventually,
this is like three in the morning, we're up at
layered metal particular meadow up in that area, also with

(27:08):
a lot of history, and so we ended up driving
towards where we heard those vocals, up towards Onion Mountain,
and yeah, I didn't have much else happened there, but
there was this weird So when we were driving up there,
it was Alex Petakov and Jonathan easily in the front
and I was in the back and something told me

(27:28):
to just like record with my phone, and when I
got back and went through some of that footage. There's
one point where I noticed this weird like it was
like a smoky, dark humanoid, almost like figured go across
the road. It was super weird. I showed it to
the guys. The guys thought maybe it was just like No,
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You're right. Let me tell you why you're right. I
rewatched that over and over, and the vehicles are headed
this way. The shadows come into the light. I don't
do that. And it crosses right at the left corner
of the vehicle and goes past it. And it was big. Yeah,
that wasn't I'm glad you brought that up. I did.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
I missed that one.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
I'll have to go find that for sure. Something very
reminiscent to the one down here from the Sheriff's.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Vehicle and this.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
And it's kind of this one, Amanda to see through.
It's it's like a it's like a black figure and
it's big. It's a mass, it's huge, and it comes
to the vehicle in the bright light at night, and
it's coming at an angle and goes off. And I
rewatched that because I think you made a comment like
they didn't see anything. They don't think it's anything. It

(28:45):
may be a shadow. Yeah, it's a shadow of some kind,
but shadows don't move towards When you put light on
a shadow, what does it do?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
It disappears, so and I'm glad. I'm glad you see
it the same way. I was like, this is something weird,
and I send it. You know, I got my buddy
GARYL from Midwest Night Watchers. I send him my stuff
to kind of like you know, review, you got to
send it to somebody. I say, there's a few people
I send my stuff to and they're all solid people,

(29:16):
you know, and I do have the other people that
will point out all the weird stuff that you're like,
I don't know. And he felt like that, I think,
if I'm not mistaken, he felt like there was something
there too, and I was hoping. I was like, oh
my god, please use it in the STM video. But
I guess it didn't make that cut. But I know

(29:38):
who would use it. Josh Gates would Okay, you know
what I mean. Expedition X.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
They love stuff like that and they do more like
paranormal or whatever. But see, that's the thing. You go
out there. You don't even know when you first start,
you don't even know. There's several camps groups that oh
it's this, or it's you know, it's an inner dimension
or it's flesh, and but we we have no idea

(30:06):
because and then when you bring something like that up, Uh,
some people that are in one camp, they'll they'll deny
it because they don't want to go against you know,
what they've known. But that's to me, and I even think, like,
how would you fake that? I mean, I don't even

(30:27):
know as big as that thing was. Uh, I didn't
see it the first time I missed it. I had
to rewind it a few times. But yeah, you you
you got something weird there. So the point I'm making
is even even when something weird does happen, it's like
some people are like, I want to focus over here.

(30:47):
I'm scared of that. Yeah, and I understand that because
I've been there. Uh and but but if you if
you catch it on film, you've got it right.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
So yeah, And that's what I love doing, is trying
to document, to try and capture anything strange or anything
like that. Because yeah, it was weird that those we're
hearing those vocals and actually where we heard those vocals
on there was maybe a year two years before that,
Jonathan Easley and I we were also doing a night

(31:18):
investigation there and got similar vocals from that back area
where we think, and that I did capture on my
cell phone and it was sent to someone for analysis.
And this person is good at what he does. And yeah,
you know, he didn't say it was it was they
named it. It's most likely the specified target, I think.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Is how.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
I like how we worded that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
That's good something along those lines. But you know, he
doesn't say it's bigfoot, because you know, we don't we
can't prove it like that. But yeah, he says that
the vocals are weird and it's super cool that it
happened again there, and there's been some other weird stuff
that had happened in that layered metaw in that particular year.
Also a couple of years back where several of us,

(32:06):
it was a big group of us, a bunch of
cool investigators and researchers and stuff, and two of them
being a bart coatino and who was the other one.
There was someone else there that it'll come to me anyway,
So oh hit morale, Yeah, salute Kip. And so we're
all like winding down from the night investigation. We get

(32:28):
into our vehicles. We're parking like a U shape, and
I'm in the front of my truck and I have
a custom bumper. It's a little bit, you know, trucks
a little bit raised. And I get into my sleep
and something like wakes me up, just voice inside or
something like that, and it's like, don't open your eyes.
And then I started feeling the front bumper like I

(32:52):
could sense like I had my eyes closed, but I
could sense that something was in the front of my
truck on the bumper slowly pressing down, and I could
feel my truck slowly starting to go down down to
Oh my goodness. I'm like the door is unlocked, and
I'm in the front of the truck, likes lain across
the front, and it was the weirdest thing. So I

(33:13):
was like, in between this dream, you know, it felt
really real. I think it did happened, but I was
like kind of sleeping and did not want to open
my eyes because I felt like there was going to
be something that I didn't want to see. But I'm
there to see this stuff, you know, And but yet
I did not open my eyes.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Glenn, I have had things happen. I've talked to seasoned
researchers that have been doing this since they were kids
because of their parents and stuff like that. They want
to they want so bad to have a sighting, and
when that moment comes, I've heard that so many times,
I was scared to look up. I was scared to
open my eyes. I was I was scared of what

(33:52):
I was actually going to see. So don't feel bad.
That's that, Yeah, that seems I know one her mom
was a research that you're well known, and I think
her and her boyfriend were laying in a tent. It
was open on the top and something told her not
to look up and she could hear it breathing. So

(34:12):
that's I don't know what that is. I've had times
where you know, you'll you'll want you'll like a have
a turkey neck like we send the South, You'll stretch
up and and what is that? And the other times
you're like, oh no, and so there's something that sixth
sense you might have or whatever. Just like I said,
I've got more more trouble not listening to it than

(34:34):
i'll listening to it.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Right, And And that that happened again recently So fast
forward to this July some back up there and we're
at Laos Camp and we'll just get right into it
since we're, you know, getting into this good stuff right now.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Let's get into the good stuff like it.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
This year was supposed to head up with the Tate Hieronymous.
I'm pretty familiar with Tate. Yeah, okay. He was going
to plan to head up to Bluff Creek and then
up to Northern Oregon and then into Washington and I
was gonna cruise with him, and so I was taking

(35:20):
the whole month off. You know, I was like, all right,
a whole month, Bigfoot, let's do it. And the things
didn't work out like that, you know, I'm telling you
that that that gas and so yeah, so I spent
two weeks in Bluff Creek and which was amazing. And
on the mid part of this trip there was a

(35:44):
big group of people that we had people from all over.
We had sailorsh Sasquatch from Washington State come out. Thomas
Steinberg veteran researcher, yes from BC, and Brentdale from Washington State,
different people from different places. A lot of different people
came through and so the campground was packed and on

(36:08):
this particular night, Jonathan Easley and I had stayed up
like the latest, and you know, we shut down the
campground and towards the end of the night, it was
just like a few of us just talking and it
was just Jonathan and I. At the end, it's four am.
I head over towards my tent and I purposely put
my tent as far as possible from everyone and stuff

(36:30):
like that, and so it's kind of this, it's kind
of scary sometimes, especially when there's no people. There was
a bunch of people, so I was like, I felt
pretty good, but still it's just this eerie feeling when
you're out there. And so I get in my tent
and yeah, several minutes later, I'd noticed and I could hear, like,

(36:52):
there's someone camp next to me, and I could hear
their like inflatable bed. When they would move around, I
would like kind of squeak a little bit. But I
noticed this light starting to shine inside of my tent.
And the thing was it was coming from it seemed
like it was coming from behind my tent, which there
should be nobody back there. It's nothing but woods. And

(37:13):
then this little trail that takes down into Bluff Creek,
and so I was like, whoa tripping out on it
and just trying to figure out maybe, all right, someone
with a flashlight a head lamp or something like that.
So I'm paying attention, and I could hear little like
twigs snapping and stuff like you hear little stuff going on.
And so at this point my phone's almost out of

(37:35):
a data to record and stuff like that. So I'm
like racing things and I'm under the blanket, so my
phone doesn't shine because I'm not trying to trying to
make it seem like I'm sleeping in there, and this
light is just like getting dim and bright and dim
and bright, and I'm like, this is weird. And it
reminded me going back to when I was living in

(37:55):
Southern Humble, there was these orbs that would pop up
in our lad these bright balls of light like people describe.
And I did a lot of live streams recording this
because it was happening so frequently. And I've heard people
talk about that these things could possibly be due to
maybe like certain minerals and stuff like that in the

(38:16):
earth and things, but no, I've seen these things like
float through the woods and take off into the sky
and vice versa. I've seen these things drop from the
sky into our woods and stuff like. It was weird.
So a lot of live recordings of this stuff, and
this is like years back on my channel, if you
go way back, maybe like six seven years, and a

(38:38):
lot of it is just like dark, you know, because
it's dark, you're out in the woods, and just these
little bright lights, you know, they would just turn on,
turn off, get dim and bright, and.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
It just so reminded me of that.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
And since then, since those lights on the property, there
was other activity actually starting to happen. Before the lights.
I noticed the lights, there was like a pre breaks
and stuff like that. I've seen several trees actually fall over,
which I know naturally things happened wind and snow, you know,
snowload and stuff like that, but it just happened way

(39:12):
too many times. And some of those natural things did happen,
you know, like the snow of windy nights and stuff,
but there was other times and it just when it happened,
it was just odd.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
There wasn't wind, there wasn't you know, And so there
was little things like that that were happening on the
property before I noticed these lights starting to pop up,
and and so yeah, it became a thing. And I
talked to other you know, other locals and like, oh, yeah,
they've seen the strange lights and stuff like that, and
so it definitely was a thing. I don't know if
it was something to do with that particular land there.

(39:45):
Off to one side was this huge rock that you
could see, and we had this really nice deck that
you could just hang out, see the stars, see everything.
And we had several ridges around us, and there was
strange vocals on certain nights that you know, I would question,
you know, and there was some re range cows in
your typical wildlife that I was used to as well,

(40:08):
but some of these vocals sometimes were really odd. And
so that's when I really started getting into the gadgets,
recording and all that. It reminded me of those lights.
So it was the strangest thing. And again I was like,
you know, I could have got up and got out
my tent been like what the heck, you know, who
is this or what what is this?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
But did anybody else say anything about it?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Everyone thought it was kind of weird at the end,
you know, like the next day when I showed everyone
and talked about it. And there were some other things.
I'll take you back a few days before that too,
were some odd things had happened that I thought, But yeah,
it just remind I got that sense of like, yeah,
don't get out of the tent. You don't want to

(40:50):
become a four eleven case, you know, missing for eleven case. Yeah,
And I used to get that feeling too back on
the land. When I would stare at these things. It
almost felt like I was like, I don't know, I
felt like at some points, I'm like, Okay, maybe I
should just go inside the house and stop looking at
this or recording it, give it a break, you know.
Just I don't know, you know, I just felt like

(41:11):
at some point maybe it could come and take you
or who knows, you know. And I did do a
little digging into what, you know, what some people said
about these lights and some time are.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
They always the same color or.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
They so usually it'd be like a star color, this white,
bluish color. But I've had the orange ones pop up,
and then some of them they will change multiple colors. Sometimes.
I describe it sometimes like the Mario Brothers, when you'd
get the flower the flower power and you start changing
all the psychoelic colors like that. It's like almost like that,

(41:44):
you know, and you have.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
This on video. I've seen some of it where and
y'all you've just you've done like whole shows discussing, oh yeah,
breaking it down with these lives. So if y'all, y'all,
I would tell tell you, if you're interested in this,
go to this channel, because uh, he does better than
I do. I'm like, I catch something, I don't even
look at it myself to break it down for you.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, So when that light thing happened, I also got
this really bad sewer smell, like a city sewer smell,
which I thought was very odd, Like it wasn't and
there's like a little porta potty outhouse at that campground luckily,
and uh but it wasn't that. You don't ever I've
never even smelled it the outhouse or anything like that

(42:30):
unless you're in that thing. But uh yeah, outside of it,
I'd never heard, you know, smelled it throughout the can
and I was wasn't near it, and it was and
it was strong. It just kept getting stronger and stronger.
I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm experiencing the smell too,
like whatever this is, it's smelling bad and it was

(42:50):
just the oddest thing. And yeah, I got I was
able to get some several video clips and that's in
my latest episode. I can title the episode one High
Strangeness at Bluff Creek.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, high Strangeness, High Strangeness at Bluff Creek. Yeah, Uh,
that's that's that's probably the one I watched. It's recently uploaded, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And I tried, you know, doing the documentary style and
it was longer format and unfortunately, for some reason, I
don't know, my upload came up came up at like
three what is it, three sixty or something really low resolution, and.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I like it looked good on my phone maybe on
the TV, but.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Yeah, I thought impressed it for your phone. But that's
interesting how it affected the video quality.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Yeah, and I'm wondering maybe because I threw in clips
like game cam clips, uh, night vision clips, thermal clips,
and then some clips using a cannon two thousand and
d that it just happened to you know, I needed
extra cameras. I was really like, uh, worried that I
wasn't going to get enough footage out there, and my
thing out there too, is to just record just in

(44:02):
case something ever like happens to pop out and you know,
lightning strikes twice that bluff Creek or something.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Glands like us. He'll be going along and and back
in history. This is layered meadow. And oh, look at
that mushroom.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I'm big into mushrooms. Actually, last October I found a
bunch of Chantrelle's.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, one the one y'all were asking
about the big yellow on the tree. Was that not
like Chicken of the Woods or whatever. I don't, I
don't know. I told Misty there. She's all into that,
and and she'll try to tell us. I said, I
only stick with Chicken of the coop. So yeah, I'm
not eating a mushroom.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yeah, and I'm very I'm familiar with the Chicken of
the woods. There's Hand of the Woods too, and that
one I wasn't sure, but if someone told me later
that I think it was edible too, so I kind
of you know, but yeah, better right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
With that, you definitely got to know what you're taking.
That's something the wrong.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Thing, and especially like when you're out by yourself, like
or not even by yourself, you could have ten people
with you, but you're so far back in the woods.
Help's not gonna get there too fast. So yeah, uh.
And I like the walk alongs I kind of call
it where you can see the terrain something. Man. Man,

(45:25):
you you've caught some beautiful shots.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Yeah, cool, you have.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I mean there were some of them. I will stop like,
oh my god, that's that looks like heaven right there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah. They call it God's Country up there. Yeah yeah,
and it's just it is beautiful. And you know, like
I said, I fell in love with northern California, and
then the more you go north, you know, we ended
up moving out of a Humboldt County. I lived there
over over ten years, so all this stuff, a lot
of the stuff I've been talking to you about, was
over like the whole time I was up there. So

(45:59):
I was up there over ten years. And what was
I going to say?

Speaker 8 (46:03):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, we had moved out of Humble and actually moved
to southern Oregon several hours north. So we're in the
southern Oregon area also, and actually not far from the
Bigfoot Trap. You ever heard of the big Bigfoot Trap
in southern Oregon?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, so I guess.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
I've heard of it. Yeah, yeah, the pictures online.

Speaker 8 (46:23):
I'm like, I kind of want to go find it,
but it looks like it's way out there.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Well, I could show you where it's at. It's not
far from from our place up there. And and yeah,
there has been you know, I have found tracks in
that area that were very interesting, like deep in the mud.
I use it a lot of my intros and stuff.
But uh, and I tried casting them and all that.
So there's I think there's definitely some stuff going on
around there. There's an applegate lake is where the trap

(46:48):
is is at. And and I guess some I don't
know if they were biologists or something like that, like
some something to do with the wildlife. This group in
the seventies that put the trap there, they built didn't uh,
and it boost because I guess there was some historical
stuff going on there way back in time where some

(47:08):
miners had found the tracks and we're having activity as well.
So I guess the plan was to try and trap one.
And I don't think you know, the trap would maybe
maybe a bear, but yeah, I don't think it would
traffic bigfoot.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
There was one of the pictures I've seen of it.
It doesn't look like it would be big enough.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Uh huh. There was one video you were by yourself.
You were in a meadow and had a I don't
I couldn't tell if it was an old road gravel
in the middle, and you're kind of panning around and
you you you look down one time and I swear
I saw a track, a deep track in the gravel,
and and and and I'm like, no, no, Glenn, go back,

(47:48):
go back to the TV. But no, I don't know
whether that was your It would looked too deep.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
But yeah, who knows.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
But I understand that when you're looking through a land
sometimes it doesn't pick up, like if you're looking with
your eyes. Do you know what video I'm talking about? No,
but yeah, yeah it's show me and I'll give you
a time stamp on that. But it was, it was
it was looked like a big, perfect track.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
So anyway, And what I'm learning also is that you know,
you're not always gonna it's not always going to be
the perfect tracks. So like, yeah, I'm learning to find
these impression And there was a lot of impressions up
at Bluff Creek. And it could be bear because there's
a whole lot of barrassing, like five bears up there
the two weeks that I was there. I got a
couple on VID, so I'll be showing that. But yeah,

(48:36):
a lot of what looked like impressions. And I got
to spend a lot of time with uh, good buddy. Now,
especially after this trip, Todd samples from Bigfoot Wilderness Research
and uh, there's the the documentary that Alex did on
the go Road up at Bluff Creek. They featured Todd

(48:56):
sample's snow trackway that he found up on the road.
So Todd, yeah for tracks, and he was really schooling me,
and we were finding a lot of impressions and yeah,
I'm gonna be coming up with two more videos from
this trip. So I got one up and hopefully they'll
upload in higher quality. And so before that light incident,

(49:18):
earlier in the week, we were hanging out the you know,
campground there and someone else and I had noticed this
across Bluff Creek these up on the trees there, these
weird red lights like flickering, and I thought, all right,
I looked around. Maybe I was like maybe it was
around when the sun was going down, and I was

(49:39):
thinking maybe someone's backing up and the brake lights are
turning on or something like that, and it looked like
that someone like had put reflectors on the trees there
and light was hitting it. It was weird. And then
so I didn't say anything, and someone else, this lady
friend of ours, she's like, did anyone else see that
or something like that. I'm like, She's like, yeah, there's

(49:59):
weird red light. And I'm like, yeah, I'm seeing that too.
And right after that, there was also another strange light
that looked like it was coming down. It looked like
a car was driving down the creek, which would be impossible,
and it was really bright.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And that time.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Tate, that was soon after those weird red lights. That's
when Tate had spotted that light.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Tate was just like, oh, that's pretty bright. Like I
forgot what he said, but I was like, oh, that
looks a little odd. But Tate thinks that maybe it
was like moonlight, but I don't think so. And it
was after that, like several days after that that that
tent situation with the lights happened. And then going through
some of my game cam because I was sticking my
game cam on my bumper, there's some weird lights that

(50:43):
popped up on some of the clips there too, and
I threw that in that first episode. So yeah, so
I don't know these strange lights that Bluff Creek what's.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Going And you know, we've experienced that several different places.
I can't tell you what they are. Uh. But the
thing is every time that I've experienced it, I've had
witnesses and and and you'll get like, man, what do
you think that was? Or no, like, I don't know.
You know, you can't You can explain it, but you

(51:16):
can't explain it. Like you said, it's it's running down
the creek, like a car running down the creek, driving
down the creek. And that's impossible. So what does that leave?
And it kind of and now you're here, you're looking
for bigfoot sign, you're looking for physical stuff. Now you've
got it in the back of your mind, You're like,
why are we dealing with this? What is it?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Is it supernatural?

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Uh? You know? Is it related? Because oh and that's
I'm glad you said that because I heard you talk
about this. We had a guest on last week and
they talked about the home in the woods. Oh yeah,
and I heard you you jokingly called it, you'all call

(51:59):
it the home out Home. Can you explain some of
that and what goes along with Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
And I seen you had thrown that in the tile.
Yeah it was weird. So again, uh, you know, when
the strange stuff happens, a lot of the guys up there,
like the Bluff Creek Project, a lot of them are
just you know, bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Solid.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
They don't get into like the paranormal. Although there's stories
of some weird paranormal stuff happening, but you know, they
keep it strictly bigfoot, you know, for the most part.
And and yeah, so Tate again, what happened here? Uh?
He noticed it. So on a particular night, Tate and
I decided to go camp, just him and I over

(52:44):
at what we call the Berm. And that's on the
trail to down to the Patterson site. And so there's
another site above that that we call the cell site
because you actually get a little bit of cell service there.
There were some people up there, but Tate Andnight decide
to do the Berm and the Yeah, we noticed right

(53:05):
away that this takes like, oh, I hear this weird
humming sound and I was listening. I was like, yep,
I picked it up. And I had heard that several
years back and in southern Humble, and there was even
the local news and stuff like that had reported news
sources from the area had reported it throughout the years.

(53:25):
So every so often people report this weird humming sound.
And I've heard people report it, I guess in the
Bay area and here in Los Angeles too, so it's
not just a thing that is happening up there.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
And but it was weird.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
We were hearing it right in that just in that
area there, the berm area, and it, like I said,
it's this tight little trail because it's the old logging
road and at the bottom is Bluff Creek and it's
about maybe a mile hike down or something like that.
And so you have the creek at the bottom there,

(53:59):
and there was no one else around, you know, there's
no people around there or anything or any industrial like
machinery or anything like that. And at one point we
also heard on one particular day, what felt what sounded
like a huge boulder fall is how we could describe it.
And we felt like the ground shake a little bit
and heard some little metallic tapping after that behind us.

(54:22):
Tate heard that too, and that was a little odd
and so but at the same time, we're in you know, California,
there's some big plates that connect up there.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
That's what I was about to ask you do you
think it might have something to do with that?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Who knows, maybe earthquake or something like that.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
But the thing is, when that does happen, it disturbs
the wildlife and they kind of wild too, or you know,
so if you had something in the area, you know,
you may have a sighting because it's leaving, you know.
Like so, because I've heard people say that with the
hum in different parts of the country. Uh usually what

(55:00):
did that one say that they have a lot of
times that they see like juveniles or whatever. I don't
know what that means. But but the thing is they're
associating the home with bigfoot sightings. Also, it's like the
home comes first, then you see the bigfoot, right, So

(55:22):
I was thinking about that maybe because you know, birds
and animals will get away from it if they can't
and it may disturb them, or they know what it
is and they're getting out of that area. I don't know,
that's that's speculation, throwing it up against the walls.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
There are no experts and we're all trying to figure
this out. And I actually haven't thought of that yet.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I have heard of that, so yeah, I had. I
was sitting in a seat before daylight one time on
our old farm bow hunting, and uh, I started hearing
this home. This is this is before I started getting
back into the bigfoot thing. Dark and you know, I'm
worried about coyotes maybe by here this home and I'm

(56:04):
you know, it's not normal, and I'm looking around. I'm
like that is that the power line over there? Is
something about the you know, electric keep me? Yeah, you
know what it was. I had went in and put
my seat down in the dark, just under a hornet's nest.
Oh yeah, daylight and I'm kind of focused my eyes.

(56:25):
What Oh no, it's time to go. I left the
seat and everything I just left. But so there are
natural things like that. But like you said, with the boulder,
now where did uh is that the air where Tate
got the rock thrown at him in one of his
videos or that?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:40):
No, Well so they had the rock slide. I think
the whole STM, the Eli and Alex from STM were
there there was several other guys that friends of ours,
and yeah, they had this rock slid. I think it
was the first time the STM crew was there and
a bunch of other you know, it was star Studded
Bluff Creek at night. There was a bunch of other people.

(57:01):
But yeah, that was a very interesting moment and the
rock slide incident happened there and yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Almost like something was peeking over the edge looking.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
At him from the top there. Yeah, it's interesting and
we gotten up there during the day and stuff, and
it's a nice little spot to yeah, definitely check things out.
And yeah, so there's been other people that you know,
have been tending when we get together up there, and
they've reported We're not sure, you know, we all question,

(57:32):
but they've been reporting activity. And actually a buddy of ours,
Damon Irons, has recorded last year. He actually recorded the
day that I got there. He got some really like
these weird vocals. It was like something like that. Yeah,
right along with it was some tree knocking in the morning,

(57:55):
and that morning I had erased my audio recorder because
I felt like I didn't hear anything last night. Big mistake.
I wouldn't had probably a recording of that myself. But no,
he's been getting recordings from up there, and yeah, there's
some stuff happening for sure, and that that's going on
right now, yes currently, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Coincides with here. Also, this is the most active time
when the when the when we go from ninety eight
degrees and during the day and ninety eight percent humidity
and we can start getting those cool nights where it
dropped down in the fifties and the sixth you know, whatever,
we we start things start ramping up in the southeast also,
So yeah, that's that's interesting that it's kind of the same.

(58:39):
You know that that's why I like talking to people
from you know, the left coast. I guess, oh yeah,
way over yonder. That's that's that's good to note, is it?
Have you heard that before? It seemed like that's when
a lot of them go uh later in the year.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Well if you look at the patterns, well to like
the Patterson story and the footage, Uh that happened they
say in October mm hm, So you know, just something
to take note. I don't know, yeah, and I don't know,
I feel it. I'm like something about uh like fall

(59:17):
has its energy, and like, I don't know, I guess
there's a certain vibe, especially you know with Halloween and everything.
But yeah, there's something weird about fall, I think. And yeah,
I've noticed I like going out, you know, looking for
stuff that time of year, and uh yeah, it could
be something with the seasons too. Yeah, this guy, I think,

(59:38):
you know, people discuss the foods and and you know,
different things like that. I think there's something to it,
definitely with certain foods and uh yeah, how much how
much time do we do we keep going or we're
gonna cut this at an hour?

Speaker 8 (59:51):
We go? Right?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
No, no good?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
I'm like, yeah, I definitely wanted to be able to
share the the couple sightings I've had too, but yeah,
this time around, I was definitely focusing on on like
some of the food sources like berries, because I think
there's something weird to like people going missing picking berries
and mushrooms. You know, they talk about that a lot
in the four Missing four eleven phenomenon, and so I'm thinking, like, well,

(01:00:21):
what is it. I've heard of bigfoot picking certain type
of mushrooms up that way when they're out, and those
mushrooms are like price, I forget it has a Japanese
name to them, and it's not the matsutaki, but it's
very phallic shaped and it's supposedly an aphrodisiac and it's
prized and they I've heard that's supposedly the Bigfoots go

(01:00:44):
after those two.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Well, I was thinking, if it's birth and season, you
need another season for that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Also right before and yeah, it was there was quite
a variety of berries up and up there right now.
And you know, another thing that we've had up that
way is fires. Like every year, you know, California is
like it's been on fire, you know, and especially in

(01:01:09):
that area, there's been actually this year there was a
couple fires the year before. Every year there's been a
close fires. And on one particular year they say the
fire got really close to actually the Patterson site, and
I think they they helped protect it. And and yeah,
usually it's the Bluff Creek Project guys that go up
and do like the maintenance like we're talking about sometimes.

(01:01:32):
You know, this time around, I gave a helping hand
and you know, help maintain some of the trails off
taking you down to the site. And but yeah, no,
they've really made it possible for you to get to
the site. So that's cool. There's little signs that they
got up there to help you, and it's still difficult
if you don't know how to get there. You can get.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Yeah, y'all, don't think don't think that it's a big
wide road. There was times where y'all were walking through
spots where the the foliage we're coming out touching you.
You know. So there's there's trails that are you know,
if you're scared of something reaching out and getting you,
there's certain places they can't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Oh yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
It's not like you're walking down the road and like,
uh there's a big sign and a water fountain and
you know, like hey this is this is where you know. Yeah,
it's not like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
And uh and another thing I did want to bring
up much respect to M. K. Davis, and I know
there's there's always a yeah, the loo, there's always there's
been this discussion of where the actual Patterson site is
and everything, and and he has his place and the
Bluff Creek Project has theirs, which is I guess a

(01:02:41):
little further up creek from m K's and and so yeah,
you know, I just uh, I believe we're going to
the right site. And uh and even the guys have
said like, yeah, you know, we're more than happy to
take m K to our spot and try to figure out,
you know, what it is. But uh, yeah, they have
mapped out all you know, there's little flags, they mapped

(01:03:04):
out everything that's in the in the Patterson footage pretty
much a lot of landmark trees and stuff stuff like that, yeap,
and and you see it when you go there, you know,
and uh but no, no, it's much much respect And
did it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Oh he did it? MK is awesome. He's going to
be on uh November, yeah, November six. We're gonna talk
about some johnts and weird stuff too. So did it
surprise you?

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
How?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Now I get this from video so I haven't been there.
They surprised you how small the area was, Like how
close they actually were to Patty when they filmed it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Uh yeah, yeah, they were pretty close. And and it's
just amazing how all that worked out. And now again
m K has brought up some other things. You know
that the situation there got really dark and right, which
I don't you know, who knows, I don't know. I
wasn't there, but Uh yeah, but it's and it's possible.

(01:04:08):
It's very possible, you know, because even there was even history,
there was you know, tribes up there that uh you know,
had how to go through things like that. And but
uh yeah, I don't know until we I guess, until
I get further information on that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I really don't know what happened there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
In the film, it looks like it walked away, but
then I had I did see where he points out
it looks like it almost takes a dive at one
point or something like that, but stumbled. Yeah, amazing, amazing
work there. And yeah, it's weird if if that is
the case, then you know, it's you know, I've heard
of stories like that before. There's a there's several stories

(01:04:48):
where yeah, they say that you know, they were possibly
unlive there or hurt in some sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Way, and and and usually the motivation is money to
protect business. Yeah, and that makes it even more believable. Yeah,
you know, yeah, because we've had we've had projects stopped
here after millions and millions of dollars spent because of
one little thing that supposed to you know, it's like

(01:05:17):
there's not many of them. Then when they shut it
down like, oh, we found them over here, and we
found you're there everywhere, now, you know, so what's the
real motivation behind it? So that's yeah, yeah, and you
don't we don't know the truth, but uh it usually
if there's smoked, there's a little bit of fire somewhere, right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Oh yeah, And so that whole topic gets really interesting.
And I know some people get burned out even when
you just bring up the Patterson They're like, oh, they're
over that and it's been beat and all this stuff,
you know, But there's just you know, little nuggets keep
coming out, I think, and uh and just being uh

(01:05:55):
up that way and how everything worked out. It wasn't
like I was trying to get to the Patterson's site
and all that just kind of happened to work out.
And it's just our area and I feel like that
that's a blessing as well. And yeah, I want to continue,
you know, doing my thing out that way and hopefully,
you know, whatever finds we get, we will be able

(01:06:17):
to share it with people and learn from one another.
I have had two incidences where I've seen some strench
stuff I could talk about. Yeah, So going back to
the property down in southern humbold There's one particular summer
I was headed so the property it was like it

(01:06:37):
was three tiers. I'm going to describe it. So at
the bottom we had this a garden area down here,
so there was like a road that led you down there,
a little turnaround and a bunch of the garden area there,
and then at the middle was where the house was.
And then there was a road that would take you
a little further up, and there was a flat up

(01:06:59):
there where we had an area as well. And then
above that there was like some ridges and then some
some trails that would take you back behind those ridges
and everything. And one particular summer I was headed up
to the top part of the property. And so I'm
driving and this is a private, private property. We have neighbors,

(01:07:19):
but they're all spread apart, you know, they're all pretty
far away, and there's a gate you need to there's
a code you need to get in through this gate,
and so there shouldn't be people on the property. And
I'm headed to the top garden. It's daytime, it's hot,
I have my windows open. I'm in my truck going
about maybe five miles an hour. It's you know, pretty

(01:07:42):
slow and both sides of me, there's there's it's heavily wooded.
There's all types of woods, oaks, ma, drones, and firs.
And on the left side of me, out of the
peripheral of my left eye, I noticed a biggure. It
was like a human figure. It was just completely black,
but it wasn't huge. And I could just see this

(01:08:05):
thing running like it was running along with the truck
and distance wise, I would say maybe twenty yards or
something like that, and it's going through the trees and
it's flickering through the trees. I could see that. And
then I turn around look and when I looked, I
stopped the truck and at the base of this old

(01:08:26):
it was a huge old growth oak tree. I see
this black head stinking at the bottom of the of
the tree and sticking its head out towards inside. And
we're looking at each other and I'm like, whoa. And
it's just all black. So I couldn't make out anything,
no hair hanging or anything like that. It's just like
a black head shape. And I could notice it like

(01:08:47):
around the eyes here just look grayish around here. And
it didn't look huge like I said, it was small,
maybe like a human size, you know, and we have
this stare down, and before I know it, I'm off
to go do whatever it is I'm going to do.
So I don't even remember where we broke up this

(01:09:10):
staring contest or what happened did it take off? I
can't tell you. But all I know is that I
seen that, and I was like, WHOA. I was surprised.
I wasn't scared or anything like that, but I was
just like excited and surprised. There was no one to
tell at the time, so I had to just go
and finish my business. Eventually, my queen came home and

(01:09:33):
I told her about it, told our neighbors about it,
and our neighbors were good friends of ours. Actually it
was this logger. He was a logger from Vermont and
his partner at the time was my queen's best friend,
and she was a Mount Shasta girl, so she was
all about the yeah high strangers. She would see the
orbs from her place. So I had someone confirming the

(01:09:56):
stuff that I was seeing, and so I was able
to share with them. And the logger from Vermont, of course,
he uh was had wanted nothing to do with Eddie
Cryptids or bigfoot and stuff. The only thing he did
share one time is that he was spooked in the woods,
but never told me what it was, but he knew
I was making bigfoot, and so yeah, shared with them

(01:10:18):
at They were the first people I shared that with.
And yeah, it was exciting. It was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
So I think maybe something small it goes, It goes
right along with the stories we hear and things that
have happened to some of us. The younger ones are
the more curious and more mischievous ones, you know, So, uh,
that makes sense to me and a lot of reports.
The one I saw a couple of years ago, right

(01:10:43):
at it, it's blacker than black. That's the only way
I can explain it. It's so black that the gray
stood out the you know, because of the you know,
the other colors, and you I guess living back there
like that. You know, they them seeing a vehicle. It's

(01:11:04):
probably pretty rare for them to bump into people too,
so they're being curious. I'm not saying that's what it is,
but it makes sense that, you know, the smaller ones
would do that. I feel like a lot of times,
the you know, things we've heard and seen, the bigger
ones are more protective. They want to step away from
humans and all that, and that makes total sense to me. Yeah,

(01:11:26):
I sound like Bobo. You saw a squatch.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
And speaking of Bobo spoke to them not not too
long ago, but yeah, I know there was one of
the cool moments. Actually, we eventually got a place in
town also for our son to be able to go
to like a better schooling, and so we had a
place in town and that was pretty close to Bobo there.

(01:11:53):
And then I remember one morning getting a phone call
and it's Bobo and he's like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Hey, you want to go squad watching?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Yeah, Bobo Cullery. Oh yeah, yeah, I even went in sandals.
I didn't even get ready. It was it was a
raining day too, and we had the guys from a
squatches squatch of Chusetts. I always have trouble. They grilled
me for that squatch of chusets.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
Uh out, it's an alf don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I'm not even going to attempt it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Yes, we were able to show them around the Redwoods
a bit, and I think there was a conference there
might have been maybe the fiftieth anniversary for the Patterson
Gimlin film. There was a conference for that in town,
so I think they that's what was happening at the time,
but it was it was cool, you know, things like
that happening, you know, and and and uh yeah, And

(01:12:49):
that's what I do it for too, to be able
to connect hook up with people like this and and
share good moments and uh yeah. Hopefully get out in
the field. I'd love to check out your the country and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
U you ever come in this way, let us know
and we'll give you the tour.

Speaker 8 (01:13:07):
Yeah, yeah, I know places. I know some people like
Scott and Sheila from last week, they know the spots
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Right on.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Yeah, and I've heard quite a bit, you know, coming
out of Georgia. So enough enough respects, uh to all
the peaches out there and all the big foots in Georgia.
I've driven through once. Once. I drove cross cross country
from Virginia to northern California, and I believe we went
through I want to say we went through Georgia and

(01:13:41):
it was it was beautiful at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
A lot of there's a lot of East West interstates.
We had a store on Interstate. So I would like
to take when I go places like back roads if possible.
You know, good back roads, and I've traveled some of
those east west and from like Birmingham across and then
hooking up with this this highway, and that's that's some

(01:14:04):
of your best traveling unless you've got to be there,
you know, if you've got to be there a certain time. Yeah,
you know, hit eye forty and and and let it,
let it rock and roll. But I like, that's how
I found Helen Georgia in that area by accident one day,
just riding around. Yeah, we come up, I'm looking at
the buildings. I'm like, I've seen this before, and Heather's like,

(01:14:26):
I think I have to and we saw Hell I'm like,
oh Facebook posts where they were advertise. Yeah, so but
but yeah, it's yeah, if you ever we can, we
can set it up you some of us we don't
live too far from each other, and we can do
it like a relay. You can come with us for
a while and we hand you off to somebody else

(01:14:47):
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm definitely open to stuff like that.
And then likewise for you to come out this way,
Amanda Roger, you ever want to come and check out
Bluff Creek or you know, the Redwoods, let me know.

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
It's definitely on my bucket list is to get out
that way for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Yeah right now, yeah right, guide you to the right.
And so yeah, there was a second time. And you
know what was interesting is that, uh. I mean, so
it wasn't a road crossing that time, but it was
pretty much near a road. Uh. And you know they
say road, you know, usually they're seen near roads. So

(01:15:26):
the second time something interesting like that happened was actually
further up in the county, up in the northern part
of Humblet in a particular town called Trinidad. And Trinidad
is a small little fishing town on the coast, and
I was actually I was staying with a buddy there
and uh so I was zipping all around Trinidad and

(01:15:49):
that whole area Eureka Arcada and checking stuff out because
I was finding uh I was not only staying there,
but I was finding stuff on the beaches. So I
was finding stick structures on these beaches. And some of
these beaches again have reports, and I was I was like,
all right, well, let's keep checking these beaches out. And yeah,

(01:16:12):
again it could be you know, local hippies or you know,
travelers going through who knows, but it's just kind of
odd how they pop up overnight. And uh. And again
there's been reports of like bigfoots even swimming in some
of the waters there, or coming out of the waters
with like help strapped over their shoulders and or eating

(01:16:33):
clams and stuff like that. I found a couple of
clam piles before, like they were huge, and I was like, man,
someone was tearing them up. Yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Was looking for where's the beer, where's the twelve?

Speaker 8 (01:16:50):
You were talking earlier about the four horsemen with with
Bigfoot and you you know, that's one of the things
that Peter Burns used to do was comb beaches. Oh,
look for evidence out there all the time on the
Oregon coast. So footsteps there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
There we go. And yeah, I've found some stuff up
in I think it was a gold beach up in Oregon.
I've done some of the beaches up in Oregon also.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
No, the coast is good, you know. And and what's
interesting is actually inland from the coast is where Bluff
Creek is, so you're not too far from the coast. Actually,
from from the hills up there, you could see the ocean.
You know, you're on the right right spot and and
uh so the ocean really isn't too far, but it's

(01:17:36):
it's far. You know, you got to go through a
lot of hills to get to it, but it's right there.
You could see it. And so I think that that
plays a big role too, you know, having that that
ocean access if need be for food sources, I guess yeah.
I think I feel like they like the beaches too.
There's a lot of reports along Highway one O one

(01:17:58):
uh in that part of the state. And actually I
stopped at a report that I had read off the
Big mapping project along along the way, I've seen a
fresh report at a southern humble, So I stopped at
the area where I felt the report was coming out
of and did a little video there. And actually that

(01:18:19):
area I had gotten a lot of reports first hand, secondhand,
and others that I found online in that particular area.
And that particular area happens to have this a really
big and nice Bigfoot souvenir store. It's called Legend of
Bigfoot and and it's right around this story area. So

(01:18:40):
I don't know, maybe it's the store playing a prank
on people or or what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
I think that story yeah, No, I don't know if
it was one of your videos or somebody else.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Probably because I think I'm the one who's been pointing
that out there. There hasn't been anyone else really like
mentioning it's it's me because I used to live in
the area and I know the area well. I've been
noticing that these reports, and not only online, but I'm
hearing it from locals. And then actually my sighting that

(01:19:11):
I talked about right now was up the hill from there,
so a little a few miles up and then up
the hill so that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
The video you said, I watched it a few times.
Does this thing? Is it disappear and it's there and
then it then it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I have I have one video out of the redwoods there,
which is not far from all this, these areas we're
talking about right now, this southern part of Humbolt where
it's weird, because what caught my eye where these it
looked like a totem pole of weird faces. Okay, and
it's a tree. And I showed it to a good

(01:19:48):
friend of ours from the Bluff Creek Project who actually
was a ex ranger. He thought it was maybe like
an albino redwood or something like that, because he's like, yeah,
it does look odd really, And next to that are
a few of the redwood trees. And in between there
when I scrubbed the video like that, that video that

(01:20:08):
I did with that smoky figure whatever that, there's also
this reddish figure that looks almost like the color of
the redwoods, and you could clearly see it materializes. It
just appears and it disappears. Yeah, Amanda, I have Roger
get that to you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
I think I actually did see that one earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
I was we can play it. I'll uploaded it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Well, I don't know if it's the same one that
I'm talking about. You could play with whatever you got there,
but this particular one I did use it also in
the intro of episode one of the latest video that
I put together. It's in the intro there. But i'll,
you know, reshare that and I'll send it to you Roger,
so you could break that down and see what I'm

(01:20:54):
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Well, in this one here, I'm not sure it's a
minute in six seconds, and I don't think we can
talk all it playing. But if y'all looked at it,
the subject it's kind of in the center up on
the bank. It's almost like a head peeking over and
it's like it disappears for I don't know, y'all. Let's
let y'all watch and.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Yeah, and I actually explain a little more this uh
this clip. So this is another clip, and this was recent,
this was last year in an area. This is in
the Bluff Creek area and in a special special zone,
I'll just say that. And it's weird. Yeah, it's a
blob squatchy. But you could see it up above like
some bushes or something like that. And I scrub through

(01:21:35):
it and it looks like the subject either hides or drops.
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
It could be the camera, but yeah, go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Yeah, and it could be angles. But it also looks
like it had to be very tall if it is something.
So let's let's play it here and just watch it.

(01:22:23):
So I'm gonna stop it just for a second. If
the ones that can't see it. There's a dead tree
that looks like the bark has come off of it.
And to the to the left of that, you know what,
five yards or so, you will see a black blob,
like you said, But then all of a sudden it's
not there. Now, I don't know whether because maybe you

(01:22:44):
change angles or whatever, but I think when you change
angles like that, something will disappear slowly. This is like
it's there and then it's not like it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I was scrubbing with my thumb, so at one point
it kind of like kind of drops.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
All you're good. Yeah, So for the people that didn't
see it, let's go one more time. There's a dead
tree on the left bank of the road. It's it's
white looking. If you go over about five feet, go up,
it's it's high and you'll see all black spot.

Speaker 8 (01:23:17):
I noticed it because it's just above the yellowish weeds
or bushes or whatever that is. It's right there in
frame as well.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Right, we'll play part of it again. Just let y'all
so I know there are people will be like, I
don't see it. Here we go, yeah I don't. So

(01:24:03):
did you see it as you were driving? No?

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
No, no, So that that was all after the fact,
and and that's why I like to keep the cameras
rolling in case you capture we capture anything like that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
Yeah, the photos captures from it here. I was able
to get those uploaded earlier for us. Roger folks can
see it right there appreciate that dead center, like I said,
kind of blobby. I don't disagree with people there, but
like I said, seeing it in movement, I don't know,

(01:24:40):
it's very very interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
Like I said, it's there one second and then it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Yeah, pretty trippy. And this area has a lot of legends,
more more than just Bigfoot. There's you know, Bluff Creek area,
if you talked to because there's several native tribes in
that area. There's the Hoopa, there's the Uruk and the Crooks,
and and depending who you're talking to, you know, there's
talks of little people there. I've heard some other legends

(01:25:07):
from a good brother, Incer from Hoopah. He's an elder
and he's been in a lot of different He's been
on survival what was it a Survivoryman Bigfoot with Les Stroud,
the Willow Creek episode that's inkor there. He's been on
several I think monster quests.

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I don't know if Doug's worked with him, but a
lot of people usually go to him when it comes
to that area there, and he's talked about like some
of the hills that used to be actually dragons and
stuff like that, and at the time, I was like, what.
And now that I've been getting into some other stuff
and uh, there's like the work of Mud Fossils University.
Do you know Roger what's his last name? I forget,

(01:25:51):
but Roger he talks about like certain geological structures possibly
being creatures and stuff like that, and it makes sense
when he breaks it down. I really like his work,
and so it made me think of like when Inger
was telling me about some of these hills being dragons
and stuff like that. I was like, oh, all right,
you know it made a little more sense to me,

(01:26:11):
But yeah, I know you hear.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
I'm the same way if if you'd have told me
something in twenty fifteen that we hear. Not only do
we hear it, but we go research it. When you
find out that it's not just somebody making something up.
There's historical records and sometimes their head or put swept
under the rug or whatever. But we don't know what.

(01:26:34):
We don't know at this point because everything's been hit
a lot, not everything, A lot of things have been
hidden from us, and so we had a question earlier.
I don't know. I don't There's one time where I
saw something and I cannot tell you what it was.
It was small and look at arms drooped down. It

(01:26:57):
was black. I was hunting one morning and it was
starting to get daylight, and it's about the size of
a turkey, but the turkeys wouldn't have flown down yet,
and this thing legs look different. So I didn't tell
anybody right away. Now we have people talking about the
little people. I don't even if we're supposed to even
say their name. But Larry Hare asked earlier. I was

(01:27:22):
talking to Yahola Tiger out of I think Oklahoma, and
I was talking about missing time one night while we
were frog gigging, and we were it was about midnight
or so, and we were down there what seemed like
an hour and on the way back up the hill,
which was wasn't far, the sun was coming up and
I saw a silhouette of a deer and I thought, oh,

(01:27:42):
that is cool. That's a that'd make a great picture. Uh.
Then I'm like, wait a minute, how long have we
been here? There was like four hours missing and so
it was in the same area. Kind of have you
heard or had any experience or ran in anybody that
that has talked about the little people in the area.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, So, like I mentioned, and I've been
hearing lately actually a lot more people from the Hoopa
area there being on podcasts. And then yeah, they will
they will mention the little people. There's also this particular
mountain range that I've been told about a little further
south right there, southern Humble. It's northern Mendocino, so a

(01:28:28):
little under Southern Humble called the Yoli Bowlies. And I've
heard of little people being up there. But I've seen
the question there. I have had possibly a little people
experienced a trip out on this one. I had went
to visit family and and I probably shouldn't say this
too loud, but this is in Venezuela, and and I

(01:28:50):
have a cousin out there I have. I have really
long dreadlocks. My dreadlocks I could mop the floor if
I need.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
To step on. And that's why, Yeah, I'm like cousin.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
That's that's why I go by Brown door for Bigfoot Dwarf,
because I looked like cousin.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
It would what it was that your original name was brown? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Uh, And so yeah, it changes the big Foot dowarf
just to make it easier to find and stuff. And
so I went to visit uh and this is outside
of the city of Caracas, and there's a huge mountain
called the mount Mount Avila, and actually prop out on this.
So up on Mount Avila there's a hotel Humboldt. Wow,

(01:29:35):
I was like, what the heck? And so Humble was
an explorer, if I'm not mistaken, and and so that's
why I guess his name is all over the place.
But so I have a thing with Humble here in California,
and here I am up on this mountain. So we
decided the queen and and and my cousin and his
queen decided to do some camping up the mountain there.
And he's the same like me, Dreadlocks. He's like the

(01:29:57):
Tarzan of our family. He would actually he spends more
time up in the mountains than he does in the city.
And he used to have like a pet, little pet
monkey and stuff he used to come down to the
mountain with and everything. Yeah, he's out there and he's
like the Shaman of the family. And so anyway, we
decided to go camping up there, and I'm talking to him,
you know, about Bigfoot and all these different things, and

(01:30:19):
he mentions the little people and in Spanish we call
him Duendez.

Speaker 8 (01:30:23):
I was about to ask if they were if Dunde
and this thing was the same one and the same Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
So the Duendez came up and he's like, yeah, there's
Duendez up on this mountain. He's like, later tonight, you'll
hear them walk by. He's like yeah. So we set
up our tents and everything, have a little quick bite
to eat, and we end up going to bed. And
before before we went to bed, he did mention about
these a pack of little small wild dogs that roam

(01:30:51):
around that area. Also, he's like, you'll hear them also.
And usually the queen is pretty calm about stuff. I'm
usually the one like, oh, look at that strange light
or look this is weird. And that night she woke
up and she's like, you hear that, And yeah, I
could hear and it sounded like a little like steps

(01:31:13):
outside of our tent, a bunch of little steps. You
can hear movement out there, and at one point we
did hear the dogs. The dogs did go by also,
but yeah, I know there was these other footsteps that
we're hearing, and it really got her attention, and so
I'm like, all right, if you're if you're excited right
now that this means something's going on. And yeah, that

(01:31:36):
was that was my little possible little people experienced there
or here y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Here's the thing with everybody in chat and people that
listen to this, Uh what what he's talking about? I
understand because when you're by yourself and you see these
weird things or hear these weird things or whatever, you
get to question yourself. Right. But if you have somebody
in your life, you know, solid, you know, and they say, hey,
do you see that ORB, then you're like, oh, thank god,

(01:32:04):
it's not just me? Right, Yeah, yeah, a lot confirmation. Yeah.
And when Heather the first ORB she ever saw, it
was I won't I'll never forget it. She's we're in
the dark, what is that light? And I'm like, I'm
looking on the ground, like is somebody coming up on us?

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Up in that tree? And I'm like, wait what? And
it was a fifteen or twenty minute experience. And of
course I didn't have a show, and I had a
phone right there I could have recorded. I didn't. We
were so mesmerized by this thing that we're changing position
to get better looks. But you you almost have to

(01:32:46):
go in with the mindset if something happens, I'm gonna
have this camera right here, I'm gonna have it. I'm
gonna turn it on. That never for me, it doesn't
happen because I'm always trying to visually collect data, I
guess for me, so I can explain it later. Uh
and and but at that point it's just a story.

(01:33:09):
But these camera phones are not going to show anything anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Yeah, you know, so yeah, and and and I'll still
try and uh again, that did happen to me, so
that the sighting on the land where the base of
the tree and the head, my phone was right next
to me on the seat of the truck, and I didn't.
I didn't, you know. And I'm all about recording, you know.
This is what we're doing, is what I'm doing it for.

(01:33:32):
You know, They're to try and get some uh some
data back for us. And and luckily the time that
the tent light thing, I was I was just glad
that I was able to hit record and I was
able to able to get some footage out of there. Also,
we didn't get back to Trinidad really quick, so leaving

(01:33:53):
the small fishing town to Trinidad. It's like evening, it's
kind of fall. I'm thinking it had just rained. I
see there's actually a sunset too. And I'm headed southbound
on one oh one and I get on the ramp
and I noticed there was already a few vehicles on
the freeway there. So before I well, I was getting

(01:34:14):
on the ramp, these two three cars maybe are going by.
But at the same time I noticed on the opposite
side of the highway there was this tall, black figure
and it was it was like basketball player, like thin hooper, thin,
lanky and tall, and it was just black. It was
just like a silhouette. And the thing starts walking across

(01:34:36):
the highway, the freeway, and so I'm thinking to myself,
all right, this guy's about to walk in front of
these cars right now. There's gonna be a bunch of
honking and maybe cars swerving and who knows, you know,
And so I'm anticipating this and none of that happens,
and so I'm like, Okay, well, this person must have
made it across the highway because I don't see them anymore.

(01:34:58):
So I'm figuring where they're gonna be on my side
of the highway, and when I passed by where I'm
expecting to see this, this subject, this person. There's nothing there.
It's just an embankment, like a ravine dropped down to
what would lead you to the beach, and it's nothing.
But Redwood's there too, and nothing ever happened to those

(01:35:22):
cars went by. I didn't see anybody else seeing that
figure for about halfway and it was moving quick too,
and that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Well, and you know, your your brain and your gut
kind of tell you sometimes this this is not moving normal.
This doesn't look normal, and it's it's just a fleeting thing,
you know. It's like that's when you do the double take, right,
And I've had that happen before, but I don't I can't.

(01:35:53):
If I can't say one that what it was, I'm
not gonna just put it out like that. And that's
the thing that confused me about the first sighting was
it was it was thinner, it was muscled up, but
it didn't have the barrel belly and area like Patty did.

(01:36:15):
And now you know, years later you talk to people like,
oh no, they're different shapes. And so I've heard of
the tallest slender ones and then now with us digging
into the weird subjects that you know, we call weird.
It might've been something else, you know, you don't know,
but you do that double take and you're you're anticipate,
you're driving safeties first, and you're thinking ahead, and then

(01:36:36):
all of a sudden, nothing's there. You know that that
I don't know as.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Yeah, I've heard of people talk about the shadow beings
and stuff like that. Well trip out on this, uh
so I you know, I check out like bfroro and
different uh uh websites for reports and stuff like that.
So I checked out BFRORO and this was a few
years back and it was a submitted report from like

(01:37:03):
twenty thirteen, So it was like a report from a
few years back, and it was two women and they
were there's this little side street from Highway one on
one in Trinidad, right there, two women have a sighting
road cross sighting right along Highway one on one right
in that area. Happened. Yes, I read that, and I

(01:37:25):
was just like, oh, yeah, I thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
That's a that's a confirmation, right, And there's no telling
how many people see something weird and just shut it
out or I know people in my life that that
don't have peripheral vision, and you know I can. I
can duck a you know, like a bird flying over. Now,
what are you doing? I'm like, you didn't see that

(01:37:50):
bird almost at the windshield? No, it came from your
side and almost you know. So uh, you know, everybody's
built different. Uh. And I think the more where we
we focus on the weird things, I guess. Or it's
like if I'm driving down the road, now, yes, I'm

(01:38:11):
looking for the traffic and all that. If I'm walking
the trails, you know, the terms that's overused, a head
on a swivel, but that's the truth. We're we're looking
at every movement and all and I watch. I'm a
people watcher, and you can go to Walmart parking lot
and people almost get run over and they could have
prevented it by paying attention. Right. Yeah, so it's not

(01:38:36):
a superpower, but I think some people don't have that.
And for for you to pick up on that movement,
you know, those other cars probably never even double check.
You know, I never saw it, Like I said, It's
just I like to think about this stuff and other walks,
you know, other things we do. And some people are like, well,

(01:38:58):
how come this person and that person have seen Bigfoot
or one or two or three. And then you get
to talking to those people and they have amazing peripheral
vision or they have they've grown up in the woods.
They you know, they're not just focused on the trail
in front of them.

Speaker 8 (01:39:15):
They're more in tune with everything around a whereas yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Any and Glenn, Glenn feels like from listening to him,
to me, it feels like he's kind of like me,
and I think Amanda the same way. You also go
with those other senses that that you know something's looking
at me or something's not right or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
Also, so yeah, you have to and and I do
feel like we do have we're not using all our
senses or maybe you know a large portion of us
and we do have extra senses that we're learning about
and stuff. And yeah, it's a matter of being able
to tap in and and and yeah, you know, I'm
learning that. And at the same time, I'm not like

(01:39:59):
you know, a lot of people like to uh talk
about like the scientific side of things. What do you
what do you bring into the table scientifically and and
stuff like that, And I'm I don't think you know
at this point, I don't have any uh specific projects
or anything I'm working on. You know, I just flow
with the go and and uh, you know, do what

(01:40:20):
I do. And but yeah, no, I respect science and everything,
but I feel like even a lot of stuff that
science uh has said is changing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
There's a lot of things. Yeah, you know a lot
of things happening on that side that is kind of
matching to what we've been saying and experiencing and and
all that. You know. So it's a trip and uh
huh right exactly. Yeah, yeah, we've got to keep following
our hearts, keep following those tracks and uh yeah, you know,

(01:40:51):
we'll see where we get to. But I feel like, yeah, no,
it's it's another thing yet and so many different characters
and ego and all that. You know, It's another thing
I'm learning too, is just how to operate in between
all that. And because yeah, and the subject is easy
to get you know, yourself worked up or get into

(01:41:12):
some sort of discussion that maybe is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
If I if I was going to build a team,
if somebody said, here, Roger, you've got unlimited, here's a check,
here's a blank check, my team would have a couple
of science minded people if we needed to gather evidence
or whatever. But I'd also have different people from different
walks of life that that pay attention to things that

(01:41:39):
other people don't either. There they're experienced in that region.
With wildlife, you may have somebody that's you know, works
at a zoo or something that that can hear certain things.
And I think the team. If you have a group
of scientists get together, they're going to do things a
certain way. If you have a group of hunters get together,

(01:41:59):
they're going to do a certain way. I've always felt
like you need a diverse team.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
To Yeah, and I mentioned earlier. Everyone has their little
specialty too, you know that we you know, and and
of course you we do it all, but you know,
you might have a little specialty. Like I said, Cliff
Brackman loves feet, you know, or you know, and he.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Can spot a track where somebody else might not.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Oh yeah, he strained right, Yeah, and you know, just
people like that learning from him, you know, that's into
the feet and what he's looking for, what he's finding,
and and uh yeah, I think it's all important. What
we all have something to bring to the table, you know,
And uh yeah, just enjoying life and Bigfoot and then

(01:42:48):
let me know I'm ready to go.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Well that's that's the thing. One of the best quotes,
I believe Cliff said it on one of their podcasts,
you know, just when people ask him what do they
do need to do to get started? Just go enjoy yourself,
enjoy nature. Just pay attention to what's going on around you.
Pat you know, you don't have to go repelling off

(01:43:10):
into you know where the guys got eight Canyon. You
don't have to climb down in there, you know, or whatever.
Just like you did, you started paying attention close to home,
noticed a few oddities, and it went from there and
some of the best I mean, like, I'm sitting there
listening you talking about Lared Meadow, and I know exactly
what it looks like because you've showed me. You didn't

(01:43:33):
know you showed me, but on your video you put
Lared Meadow and they're out there talking and it's just
I appreciate things like that when you have a discussion.
And I would people go go watch some of his videos,
watch the latest one and some of these things he's
talked about tonight. You there it is, and I like

(01:43:56):
I love people, you know that don't have the egos,
and you know, if he's if I'm looking at the video,
he said right up front. He texted me and said, hey,
if you don't see anything, don't show it. And I'm like,
I have to. I have to because you got to
go with If it stayed there and it didn't move,
I would have said, Glenn, man, I don't know, and

(01:44:19):
I knew his attitude would have been like, that's fine.
That's the people I love. Flat rocks one of them.
We have people that show you evidence and and man,
this is just what it is. You make your own decision,
you know. And if I show you something, Glenn, I'm
wanting help. If you if you see something and you said, man,
I've seen that twenty three times and this is x

(01:44:39):
y Z. I know what that is. Oh, thank you,
even if it goes against what I believe it is.
You know, so you have to throw the eight egos
out the window and the pride and all that, and
you know, if you want to be the number one
big foot, to go for it. But I'm not going
to listen to you. If you treat people the wrong way,

(01:44:59):
I I'm going to cut you off. And block you
and move on because we don't we don't need that,
so you know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
And I feel, you know, and I know it's easy
once again for like the for one to be like,
oh yeah, I wanted to be number one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
You want to be the one to.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Make a discovery and and you know, bring something to
the table big and you know, world changing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Maybe, and you know that's that'd be awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
But yeah, you know, I just again just having fun
with it and meeting great people again. And Amanda, there's
a bunch of stuff I want to share with you too,
So hopefully somehow link up and I could share these
types of strange videos. This was just one little clip,
so there's a lot more that I could share with

(01:45:43):
you like that that. I'd love to share it and
get your feedback on and and if you have anything
on your end that would you know you'd like to
share and have me to take take a look at it.
More than happy too. I love checking out videos and
stuff like that, audio anything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
So can I give her your phone number or yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
Please do Yeah, we can share back and forth. It'd
be great.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Yeah, I'm into the reports. Also, if anyone's got reports
in any of the areas that I've mentioned, you know,
please reach out.

Speaker 8 (01:46:14):
Yeah, yeah, insane with you if anybody gets anything that's
from our area or the southeast or whatever happens to
come in through you or the heck anywhere. That's my
thing right now is I'm trying to collect as many
reports and stories and stuff like that I can, because
the more that you get, the more that the the

(01:46:35):
naysayers can be like, oh, there's you know, there's.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
Well, how do you explain like this five hundred people I.

Speaker 8 (01:46:41):
Got right here that I've talked to that you say,
there's how do you explain what they saw to the
to somebody?

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Yeah, And you know, keep digging, Amanda, Like, I don't
know where you're at with your like receiving. I keep
asking people. I've gotten some in messages and stuff, but
I feel like, yeah, keep digging because eventually you'll tap
into a source where it's just blowing in.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
You know, you like.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Jeremiah over at Bigfoot Society or.

Speaker 6 (01:47:11):
Yeah, he's got he's got a good thing going, that's
for sure. He's a cool guy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
And y'all we have to mention Jeremiah. He's one of
the good people doing this too. We you know, we
all know him and and he's he's just a simple,
good dude.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
And I know I haven't I've never haven't met Tate yet,
but I started watching him because of the outing that
Jeremiah they went on. And then you have you have
people that we share things with each other. I've got
I've got people that have send me things and and
it's not they're just what what is your assessment of this?

(01:47:50):
You know, and I appreciate that, and I'll tell him
the truth, like this is what I think. I may
be wrong, but you know, and it's it's I feel like,
you know, we're building a network that nobody knows about basically.
You know, you have the TV shows and you have
all that, but there are places that all of us
can go that these things are. You know, there's too

(01:48:15):
many of them in some of these places, and people
are having to deal with them. And I've learned a lot.
I've learned a lot sitting in a vehicle with somebody
telling me their their stories, stuff that they don't tell
out in public. And so you might pick up like
you're talking about, you may pick up a piece of
that that makes something makes sense, that's just like me.

(01:48:38):
I was glad to hear that y'all's activity is starting
to ramp up at the same time time ours is.
That's cool to me. That's that's why we gees because
you can watch all the TV you want it in
all the YouTube. But until we have the communication open
between all of us, you know, we're not gonna know anything.

(01:49:01):
And the thing is y'all in chat and people that
are listening, that will listen tomorrow and on after that,
we're gonna share. We're not gonna hold it back, right,
We're not. Now. If somebody says, don't get my address,
that's that's an obvious you know, we're not going to
do that. But if it's if we get a piece
of information that the person says it's fine to share.

(01:49:24):
I have a guy that contacts me. He's putting some
project together and I share I like, hey, privately, hey
this happened here twenty miles away from my house in
the seventies whatever, and he will always ask me you
care if I share it. I'm like, I never if
I'm telling you, go ahead, you know, And that's cool.
He's from a different region, so I appreciate you. Glenn.

(01:49:48):
It's nice to meet you, and I likewise, and I
know for a fact we can do a part two sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Because yeah, anytime, anytime, make sure you bring Amanda along, yep,
because that really enjoyed having her here as well. And yeah,
really really quick. So look right now, I'm in southern California,
and you know, bigfoot. There are reports out here, but
a lot of them are throwbacks from you know, maybe

(01:50:15):
the seventies and stuff like that, but you do have
a few here and there that are current. And actually
right here in LA we have the San Gabriel Mountains,
the Angelus National Forest, and a few months back, actually
it's going to be a year now almost, we had
gone camping up there because there was a spot camping

(01:50:35):
spot that I was interested in. There was a report
from nineteen ninety five, and I figured, all right, take
my nephews up there. They've never been camping, go up
with my brother, take a day off from the shop.
It was my birthday and all that. So we made
it up there and spent one night and I let
my nephews use some of my thermals and the night

(01:50:57):
vision and all that. One of my nephews got this
interesting footage of what looks like a subject at the
base of a tree again and he's got it on
the therm and it looks like he's either covering himself
or ducking and hiding, and again sent it to several
of my friends. Jonathan Easley thought it was maybe someone
cowboy camping and getting into its its tent or whatever,

(01:51:20):
which that does look like that, But at the same time,
there were several other things that were just made it
really odd. And it's really really good, pretty good thermal footage,
and I'll send you that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
But you've got a good You use a rafflescope, right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
I recently got Yeah, I upgraded the I got this.
Uh it's the Rattler V two by a GM, which
is a rifle scope, but I used no rifle, just
the scope. And yeah, it's been amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
I got a few other smaller units as well. But yeah,
so that was very odd. And what's interesting right now
is that so I've been wanting to go back to
do like a reenactment of what had happened and just
to see what it looks like and the daytime also
see what the area looks like. So I'm learning to
do that. Follow ups I usually do follow ups on

(01:52:13):
like structures and see them change and stuff like that.
But yeah, learning to do follow ups on like that
subject that we showed in that video clip. So I
went back to that area this year, but wasn't able
to do reenactment. I don't think any anyone was really
up for it, but I would like to do that,
you know, and learning to do that. And then so

(01:52:37):
here locally, there's a few old bigfoot reports actually from Pasadena,
which is like right here. They have some foothills in
that area, but it's a pretty big city and you're
in Los Angeles County. But so several reports out of
some places there are one of them called Haunted Forest.
And this is all near This is all right near

(01:53:01):
NASA JPL. So NASA and JPL have their facility here
and these areas, and they're right at the foothills of
these mountains. And there's a lot of strange stories, like
a missing persons mysteries. Steve Stockton just recently covered a
case which is a fresh case of a lady who
went missing up here hiking, a well known hiker. She

(01:53:23):
knew the area very well, went missing. There's no trace
of her, so you could check that out on his channel,
and actually that's not far at all that that happened
in Mount Watermen, and next to Mount Watermen is Devil's Canyon,
and next to Devil's Canyon is this area where I
got that where we got that thermal footage, and so

(01:53:46):
you know, just putting that out there, I thought it
was a little odd, you know, I don't know what happened,
you know, condolence. I don't know if the lady pat
you know, she hasn't been found, but they switched her
case to the Homicide Miss Seen Persons Bureau or department.
So that's a little weird, you know, and still no
no updates on her. And there's several other missing person's

(01:54:10):
cases in that area, and you know, it's it's just
really odd, weird. A lot of crime up as well, but.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
You know, uh missing for one. The Hunter's Edition, I
don't I don't remember the the actual name of it.
I think everybody's seen. It. Scared me to death because
that you know, if if I watch Jaws, I can
stay out of the water. I've hunted all my life
and still like to do it. And just so many
people without a trace or or or the weird stuff

(01:54:41):
with their with their shoes and boots and socks off
and it's so weird. But anyway, hey put it, put
it in taps here and y'all come back sometime. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I'll get some get some good stories from the outings.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
Yeah, and you mentioned I know we're we're about to
hit the two hour mark here, And before I go,
I did want to say that I did. Did you
all check out the Sasquatch?

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
American Sasquatch? It's a new I guess documentary movie that
David Politis is in and some researchers.

Speaker 6 (01:55:16):
Yeah, I think they just dropped the trailer for that, didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Are you No, No, But I did see some some
some interesting characters in there and then some cool ones
like m K.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
I know m K.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
Trailer too was like.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Bar shoop.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Also, she's got that.

Speaker 8 (01:55:37):
That footage she's got is amazing. And not to mention
she's an amazing lady as well.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Yes, you know, I knew a friend that was there
during that recording and she unfortunately passed away. I think
it was last year, and we were in touch, you know,
through text and and uh, she was having a lot
of strange stuff hapening. She had Actually, she was actually
trying to sue the state of California with Todd standing

(01:56:06):
for not uh telling people about the Bigfoot being out
in the wilds here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Remember that she saw the tree with their kids.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Yes, yes, yeah, so she was there during the Barber video.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
Yes, I did not know that. And look, that's a
that's a good point, y'all. We're not gonna be here forever,
and we have people, you know, that are passing away,
and we need, we need to carry on the torch,
so to speak. And you know, I'm just so glad
that the culture now allows us to talk about it

(01:56:42):
amongst ourselves. I mean, it's not big news to most people,
but where we can share the evidence and and you know,
we have these videos. Hopefully they'll be on long after
I'm gone, and you guys, you know, can carry the
tour and then there will be a new group come
in hopefully and maybe sometime I don't know what it'll take.

(01:57:02):
I don't know if it ever be, it would almost
it would almost be Bigfoot would have to like walk
out in the super Bowl, you know what I mean,
and then everybody, oh, it's Ai, you know, so it's man,
everything's going against us. But the able being able to
share is just amazing to me because I've lived so

(01:57:24):
long not being able to. And I appreciate what you're doing.
I like, I love those type videos. So you know
that that walk along type thing and you're and you
explaining some of the you know, the foliage or the
trees when you when you were walking through the redwoods
and there wasn't like these monster ones. They were big

(01:57:46):
ones when you were showing the base of the trees,
and like, I'll never get to see that, and I
almost felt it. I almost it's like a magical place.
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:57):
I appreciate that, brother, you did see that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Just know if I ever get a chance to go
out that way, I will contact you. So that's it's
just you know, we read about it in in history
books in the seventies and like you said, I'm starting
to figure out a lot of that stuff they taught us.
I don't know, they just bs and it's like the
take up eight hours of our day. You know, we

(01:58:23):
tell we tell them anything, they'll believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
Yep. Yeah, we're figuring some things out. Yeah, and again
again I'm honored, Thank you again, Roger, Amanda has been
a pleasure.

Speaker 8 (01:58:36):
It's been an absolute pleasure having you on, for sure.
Jeff from Doug Scheff, I can't never say your last name, Jeff, Sorry,
he just said, well, said Roger. The future of our
hobby is saved with people like Glenn, myself and Ashley.
But throw that out there to.

Speaker 4 (01:58:54):
You, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Well, y'all, it's been I knew it was gonna be great.
And when we do shows like this, I consider you
a friend, you know what I mean? Now, and just
keep in touch. You've got my number, and it doesn't
even have to be about Bigfoot, right.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Yeah, no, but I'll check on you on Tuesdays, see
what kind of tacos you're having out there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
I had a friend told me, Uh, I was working
for the lottery and I got to travel several different
counties all week and I'm like, you know, I saw
this taco truck food truck and they're like, look, go
over there and there's some things that's not on the menu.
I'm like oh, and they're like, ask for a tongue taco.

(01:59:46):
I'm like, oh yeah, and like I don't know about this.
I'll try anything. Once I went to my fan my workman,
and I'm tearing this thing up. I went back, so
you have more. Yeah, yeah, i' done that way back.

Speaker 4 (02:00:01):
I'm very particular about my meats now. But yeah, no
I have heard. Yeah, I know about the tongue and
it sounds discussion, but no, yeah, you made a good
choice there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Yeah, and I'm all about you know. We had a
story on the interstate and and I would briefly get
to meet people from all over the world, and I
found out one of the best ways to get people
to open up and ask them about where they're from,
their culture, their food, their music, you know, all of that,
and man, it just most people will open up, and

(02:00:35):
you know, there's there's things in this world I love
to try. You get a chance. And I had old
Cajun buddy and h you know, they'll eat about anything.
He put enough spice on it, and he said, the
problem with you guys is y'all eat with your eyes.
He said, I eat with my taste. Buzz, he said,
y'all said it looks gross. And so he started telling

(02:00:57):
me about some gross stuff that they had.

Speaker 8 (02:00:58):
But and then here, at least in our neck of
the winds, we slather everything with Gravyes, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
That's right. What was that? One guy said he's a
Rogers said, uh, we used everything on the hall back
in the day, and uh he said, we we would
have ate the squeal if we could have caught it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:15):
But I like that, see and respect the pork. I
don't do work anymore. I totally get it, and this
time around love Craig Rowdy or Buddy Roddy, Kelly amazing
elk that they had to hunt it and.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Oh I saw that. Yeah yeah spaghetti and I was
I was jealous that.

Speaker 8 (02:01:36):
We used to get deer spaghetti all the time, so
it would be good too.

Speaker 3 (02:01:40):
Right, all right, y'all, thank y'all for joining us. Next
week we have Da Roberts and Robbie Rains and we
really appreciate you Glenn coming on. And like I said,
let's just keep doing what we're doing and let's spread
the truth and just keep rocking and rolling. I mean,

(02:02:03):
I'm having a blast doing this and I love a
chance to tell my stories, but also when our guests
tell stories that make me feel better because I'm like, yeah,
see I'm not crazy, so but yeah, just uh, y'all
be sure and go check his channel. Out if you
like the if you like watching that type of stuff,

(02:02:25):
and I don't know who you do. Are you doing
your own editing? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:02:29):
Yeah, I'm learning learning how to do that.

Speaker 6 (02:02:31):
And uh job, you're doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
See tuned. We got some more stuff coming. All right, so.

Speaker 3 (02:02:39):
Everybody, thanks for joining joining us. We're gonna end it
right here. We don't have our outro yet, but uh.
Also check out Neilma Fenn's books. Uh, she's a great,
great writer, tells great stories. And go back and watch
and on the old Squatch and holler a watch her interview.
She's she's funny. So y'all have a good night.

Speaker 6 (02:03:02):
Good night y'all.

Speaker 8 (02:03:07):
HM.