Squatchin' Holler #16 Bigfoot Activity in the Appalachian North: A Deep Dive with Brian Seech

Researcher and documentarian Brian Seech joins us to talk about his 40 years of studying and gathering evidence.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Squatching Holler.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
In the midst where the trees lean loove, Squatching Hollers
got a tail.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
The show wisps.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Creep like creature's fade out.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Every shadow's got a secret.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
To crowd monsters rhymes Where the stories are told? Squatching
Hollow where the legends are born?

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Are they gone?

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Who can say?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
In the hollow of the truth, your slips wait.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Huge footprints faed where the creek runs than a lantern sways.
Let the search beak in rustling leaves, But there's no
one near.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Is it the wind or the beast? You fear?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Everyhere goes a question.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Every russell's a clue.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Spotching hollis got its eye on you.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Monsters those where the stories are told? Swatching How where
the legends are born?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are they calling you? Who can say? They are the shots?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
And now you're Squatching Holler. Hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers
and Ashley Rams remembers this podcast can be downloaded everywhere
great podcasts are found. And now the show.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Hello, can you hear yes, sir, I can hear you?

Speaker 7 (02:27):
All right?

Speaker 8 (02:27):
How about me? Were good?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Good sounding? Good y'all? Thank y'all for hanging in there.
We're having technical difficulties today. I don't know if everybody's
internet has been acting crazy, but some some of us has.
Uh it's been raining all over the southeast, so I
had to reboot my phone today and it's it's just been.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
Yeah, the service has been just really awful here in
our area as well.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
And so, uh, mister Seechs, he's he's backstage. We've been
We've been trying to get the sound right. It kind
of sounds like we're communicating through a robot voice on
both ends. So we're gonna we're gonna give him a try,
and if it can't work, we're reschedule, but we'll we'll continue,
we'll do something. So Amanda's got a presentation.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
Hey, I was like, what do we do if we
if we can't get it to work.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
So she's gonna read bedtime stories, booger stories to y'all.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
Yeah, read some good old old time stories.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, and before I've got a couple of things to
talk about quickly. If I can't get well, well, we'll
do it here in a little bit. I'm gonna see
if you want to try to bring bring Brian on
and see if it's working.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah, we can try it. Everybody in chat and on
the show, just bear with us here while we make
sure everything is good.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
If the audio is a little wonky, we apologize in
it out.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
So let's see what we got.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Let's see what we got. Hey, can y'all hear us?

Speaker 8 (03:57):
Now?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Can you hear now?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Oh? I can hear you? Guys? Great? Now?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh my god, we gotta show.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
That's my awesome wife back there.

Speaker 8 (04:11):
Yay to wife e is that's Terry?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
She did? It's Terry. He's a technical girl.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm not well in the southern terms. I'll buy her
a cold drink.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
Right, Okay, again, I'm very sorry, I don't it is
okay though. We are very just very thankful for you
pushing through and trying to get it to work. And
it's working. So it was meant to happen.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Look, and y'all with with live shows, I've had so
many things happened. Terry take support. That's cool. Yeah, called
Terry tech support.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
She actually we have two groups and she runs. She
basically is the heart and soul of the group. She
does everything.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
I just get too uh, you know, have fun and
you know, just talk, but she I couldn't do. I
wouldn't be doing any of this if it wasn't for her.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
And I'm gonna try to turn you up just a
little bit. Hold on, uh, I'm gonna go to automatically
adjust to all right now say something for me.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Hello, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's a little better. We can hear you. It's just
a little low, okay.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I'll try to talk real loud.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
That we're punking you. We can hear we can hear
you the whole time with you, Thank you, thank you now,
mister Seats, I got to stop that, Brian, thank you
for coming on. I didn't didn't get a chance to
do an intro for you. But with with our show

(05:48):
when I when I started, I wanted to learn more
and and then then we started finding out. I started
finding out there's people that's been doing this a long time,
and you're one of them. And if you if any
of y'all and chat are the ones that to be
listening tomorrow on Spotify and stuff. If you don't know
who Brian is, if you google his name, if you've

(06:10):
watched any Bigfoot shows or anything like The small Town Monsters. Uh,
in the Mothman movie. Uh, somebody was in the Mothman movie.
I'm not gonna mention.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Any names, but uh, but you three seconds, guys, about
three seconds carrying a briefcase in the back.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Hey it counts.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
Hey, it still counts, right.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
But so.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know, when I started this journey, you know, Amanda
started HER's a different way, and we all came together.
It's kind of crazy how it happened, but I'd always
I'd put it in the back of my mind, but
I'd always kind of wanted to get into this, and
I didn't know people like you were actually doing it.

(06:54):
And you I think I saw where you said, you know,
the kids, uh moved out of the house and you
all were looking for something to do. How did you
how did you kind of settle on investigating?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Well, basically, uh, you know, just a little bit about us,
about us because probably even though we've been around, we
have our our first group was called Q. We still
have that. It's the Center for Unexplained Events. We started
a nineteen eighty six, so next year's actually forty years
for our Q group. We're proud of that. And what

(07:27):
we did is we were both interested. I grew up
in the seven. You know, we both grew up in
the seventies. I grew up watching like In Search of
all the all the documentaries that were at you know,
like Boggie Creek things like that. So I was I
was interested. I was always interested in UFOs too, So
I would buy the UFO magazines in the seventies. UFOs

(07:47):
were really big now as they are now. Excuse me, UAPs, guys.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
Get we still call it UFOs.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Let's get what the times right. But so I was
always interested in that, and so I started to read
some of these I was reading these UFO magazines, and
so they start talking about gen X. Yeah, I love
my gen X guys, nineteen sixty five. I just turned
sixty here, so we're.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
All gen xers. Kudos, We're lucky to be here. Yeah,
because yeah, uh it was a different time back then.
It's like, uh anyway, but my daddy's favorite thing was
I'd get hurt, I'd do something stupids that I'll bet
you won't do that again.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, exactly, they didn't. They didn't caught it once. It's like, hey,
you know, just here's a band. They go back out
and play for three hours.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Rub some dirt on it. They wouldn't even give you
the dirt to go find your own dirt, get out
here exactly.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
So but what was interesting, So I was reading these
UFO mag UFO Universe, you know, Saga. It was in
Saga magazine, True magazine. They started to have you know,
they were talking about UFOs, but all of a sudden
they started to bring Bigfoot into it. And at the seventies,

(09:01):
hey is there a Bigfoot UFO connection? At the time,
a lot of articles about UFOs and Bigfoot. So my
wife and I originally from Pennsylvania. We both grew up
in Hopewell, Beaver County, Pennsylvania. Now we moved to Weird
in West Virginia, and that's Hancock County. So basically, if
you look, if you look at a map, you'll see

(09:23):
Ohio up here, Pennsylvania and you'll see a little sliver
we're I always say, we're on the tip of the
middle finger of West Virginia, not like it. We're in
Hancock County right now, and that's the smallest county in
West Virginia. Actually. So we've been down here for four
years now and we're researching down here, holding holding events,

(09:46):
trying to get up because down here big footing was
never huge. Okay, one county up in Pennsylvania, people knew
about bigfoot more, but down here not as much. So
so then so in twenty twelve, okay, we decided to
have our second group. Okay, and our second group is

(10:08):
called Center for Cryptozoological Studies. And I don't know if
you could see my shirt here, but so we decided
to take because Q was just a broad based generic
term for a group which we covered all spectrum of
the paranormal, from ghosts to UFOs to cryptids, everything under
the umbrella. We called it the paranormal umbrella. But we

(10:32):
weren't getting the creature reports that we don't wanted, so
we branched off. We still have Q for everything else,
but just for any kind of cryptid report, whether it
be dog man, and we do research dog man, wing identities, thunderbirds,
you name it, we research it. Okay. So that group
has been since twenty twelve. So you know, here we

(10:52):
are today, you know, older and grayer, but still still
continuing our exploits.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
So to say, did it surprise you or both of
y'all when you started digging in how some of these
seemed to be connected, uh, because it has surprised me.
But you know, I have people come to me. I

(11:19):
started out totally bigfoot, but I've had weird I saw ufo.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
We've had weird stuff happened in all our lives. And
I had a young man I think he's watching the
Night with my son, told us about when he was
younger here at the airport, about something with wings that
looked like a man landed on a fence behind his house.
They joined the airport, so it was a tall fence
and it was so heavy when it landed it bent

(11:47):
the top rail down, and he turned around and ran
in the house. He said it looked gargoylish like you.
He ran in the house, and you know, as a
witness to some of these weird things, you kind of
second guess yourself. Well when he walked back out and saw,
you know, the next day the fence was actually still damaged.

(12:08):
Then that left evidence. And I wasn't expecting to get
stories like that. But I feel like, you know, if
you're talking to somebody and you're talking about Bigfoot and
they're they're they're comfortable talking to you because you've been
through some weird stuff too, you know, and I think
what y'all doing is very valuable.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
It gives people a voice, you know, even if they
don't want their name, you know, put out there a
lot of us that was unexpected to me. So it
was it was it a shock to you that some
of this stuff seemed tied together.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Well maybe not as much like especially for me because
I grew up with it. It was ingrained in me.
I mean and even even today, Uh, when you talk
about the if this, if this, uh, if this young
man or whoever is still listening. We have a phenomena
here in Pennsylvania. It's in Butler County, Okay. It's called

(13:07):
the Chakuora Gargoyle. It's in Chiquora, Butler County, which is
right next to East Brady, home of Jim Kelly from
the you know, formerly from the Buffalo Bills, Okay. And
this thing there's been we investigated the one report with
Dan Hagman from called BORU Butler Organization for Research for unexplained.

(13:31):
This thing was about a like six and a half
seven foot gray gargoyle ish if there's a word like
that type entity with wrap around wings. It had its
head looked like a dynamic bicycle helmet, and we actually
found another report in nineteen ninety three that was twenty

(13:53):
eleven for the Chiquora Gargoyle in nineteen ninety three. The
drawing is almost exactly drawing from twenty eleven. It's really
like when I first I first saw the twenty eleven
drawing and I said, oh my god, I've seen this
drawing before. Where is that? Now? We we collect an
archive old forty material, books, magazines. We call it the

(14:17):
s Files for sech Files, and we've been doing that
for forty years. And yeah, right above my head here
it's just a whole there. There is so much stuff there.
What I think we intend to do for next year,
for the fortieth is doing doing some lives up there
and just showing people what we.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Have showing that would be super awesome. So I oh
that you would you would just come library.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, you would just love this. My wife is you
know you see the smile.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
On my face.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
Oh my god, that would be like so much all
that Oh.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
There was so much over there. We have it all up,
we have it upstairs, we have it downstairs. This is
when we tell people that that it's been our lives.
They you can tell somebody, but we actually for the
uh we had uh Set and Courtney from Small Town
Monsters for the If you guys have seen the West

(15:13):
Virginia episode, uh, it's called Mountain State Monsters is Sasquatch
on Earth. Mountain State Monsters is what it's called. Ours
is called Season of the Sasquatch and it takes it
shows down here in in Weird where there was a
creature that they called the Bell Hill Beast. Now, our
friend Fred Sluga told us about this and we were

(15:37):
able to get on camera the very first eyewitness who
wanted to talk about the Bell Hill Beast. So, if
you guys, anyone listening, and we actually film up in
our h S files, So if anyone wants to actually
see part of what our S files look like, you'll
see you'll see us and you'll see just the one

(15:58):
back part. It's a small room, but it's packed and
we we've made that it's kind of like a passion
like you know some people, you know they couples will
go out the bars and drink, you know. If we
find the old newspaper articles, were excited. That's how kind
of geeky we are. And we also had Heather Moser
from Small Town Monsters. She came here and Amanda, if

(16:20):
you think that your smile was big, hers reached here
to hear I.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
Could I can only imagine, yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
And we actually can meet with her soon. And we
have a box of stuff from her. So we we
also accumulate stuff from other researchers, and we just accumulated
a whole bunch from our friend who moved out west.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Amanda is also smiling, Brian, because you're in contact for
her now. She loves old articles like.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Oh yeah, it's isn't it? I mean, isn't it fun?

Speaker 8 (16:48):
I mean we're like, is it so much fun?

Speaker 5 (16:51):
We're like the geeks. I mean the geek I've been,
you know, I find you know, they.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
Were teasing me at work this week.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
I just bought a new copy of David Plaidi's book Bigfoot,
Giants and Wildman.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah. I don't have that one yet now.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Yeah, And it's got a ton of old newspaper articles
early seventeen one hundreds to the early nineteen hundreds. And
I had the second edition of it and I had
already gone through no highlighting, did my nerd thing with it. Well,
there's a third edition now and I was curious to

(17:28):
see and it's very obviously thicker than so it was
a It was a slow day at work on Wednesday,
and I had both of those books laid out and
I was going through trying to figure out which articles
were new, and they were all like, what are you
doing it? I was explaining to them, and they're like,
you really are a nerd, aren't you. I guess I
am proud of it.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
It's it's I mean, you know what's really fun is
so what I'll get back to Bigfoot here because I
know you guys, you know you love talking Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Right, Hey, anything goes.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
We're just on the front porch having a good time.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
So where we live, we lived it was called Hope
Well Beaver County, Okay, next right on the Ohio line.
The Ohio line is Columbiana County, Ohio, Okay. And then
Hancock comes up comes up to here, so you have
three counties. We call it the tri State Triangle. Basically

(18:29):
everything from UFO's big Foot, Thunderbirds, ghosts. We also do
paranormal research, not as much anymore, but we still do
a little bit. And when you start to see patterns
from one state to the next. What these creatures do,
what they look like. They're the same, the same patterns.
If somebody wants to just say, hi, this is our

(18:50):
little kittie. He's six months old, six months ago, and
is it awesome, little dude?

Speaker 8 (18:58):
I have usually try to ye for born.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Out Amanda's once you got one to have picked the
locks and come in there with her.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, they did that last week.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
The door wouldn't shut quite right, and they kept putting
their pall under and eventually got the door open and
came in here in the studio.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I got two things before I forget. So the when
people are listening, they're like, oh, you know old newspaper clipping,
so what No, the reason they're valuable is because they
haven't been changed or wiped from the history. You have
a report from eighteen ninety seven or nineteen twenty two

(19:42):
if you go look. I have some encyclopedias from the sixties,
and when I used to do papers and stuff, I
would look at those to get views and things that
I couldn't find anywhere else. Right, there's things in those
encyclopedias that you won't find in current ones exactly. And
so I'm a geek I guess too for the old

(20:04):
newspaper stories, because it just it just shows there's been
a history, and then then there's a huge gap, like
where everybody's quit talking about it. You know, they're calling
everybody crazy.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
And all that.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
But also when I was I'm not far from me.
I'm fifty four, and when I was in third or
fourth grade, one of my buddies come in from the weekend.
And this is like nineteen let's say, seventy eight ish.
So he come in and we're kids. We're worried about
what toys were going to play with or whatever, and

(20:37):
then you know, right, yeah, we never leaves. So he said, y'all,
I saw pterodactyl this weekend.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, And I'm like, oh, really, what's that here?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I I didn't know, right, I said, what's that? He
showed me a picture and I'm like, he said, you know,
I said, he said it had the head, everything was
the same. He said it was massive. Well, years later
I don't remember if it was Monster Quest shout out
to Doug or which one it was. But in the
seventies there was a wave of thunderbirds that came through

(21:19):
with a storm and it dipped down and it come
up through Middle Tennessee up to y'all and it was
the same time period. Now I've got goosebumps now, my
hair standing up. I called him when I saw that
episode back in the day. I said, Hey, Eric, did
you see that episode? He said, no, is he need
to check it out. But it was Brian, what was

(21:41):
wild was not only it was just this fantastic story,
but there's other stories in the same time period, the
exact same time period, and they feel like they may
have rode the wave up to y'all and either settled
or died or whatever. But there was a way of
sightings in like just a few days there across the country. Yeah,

(22:05):
I thought that was amazing to hear that.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, and when you know, when we talk about thunderbirds here,
you know, especially in Pennsylvania, the Black Forest region up
towards New York, like Clinton County, uh, Kettle Creek, So
they were seeing what especially you know, Chestnut Ridge too
is one of the most famous in the country. They're
seeing the they're seeing these things that basically look like

(22:28):
something from the terosaur family, whether a Terra dactyl, Terra
dawn or they're seeing what an old uh prehistoric eagle.
They were called terra thorns and they were these big
black prehistoric eagles. Now there's that's the two actually two
different types of thunderbirds being seen. And so here's so

(22:50):
when I say this, I'm like, so you're saying, Brian,
there's dinosaurs here. I'm like, well, one of the things
that you know, maybe not far, you know, maybe a
time slip. Maybe some of these creatures. Hey, there's a pterodactal.
Somehow it's a time slip for thirty seconds in ours
and then it bleeds back in. I don't know. I'm
just throwing that out sometimes.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
The same wave there.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes, it's kind of like sometimes like when you say
something on a on a podcast, they'll say, oh, Brian,
Brian said these things are this, I says no, I
said it's a possibility, and people like to put word
in your mouth. And there's just there's so much that
we don't know. I mean, we've been doing this for
forty years and I don't think we know much more
than when we first started. I mean, like you said

(23:37):
about trends and patterns, and a lot of people who
do go ghost research, they'll be out in the cemetery
there'll be a bigfoot there watching them, or there'll be
a UFO overhead. And we we started about four years
about five years ago now a new project which has
just went very very slowly. It's called l A E.
The initials l AE Light Anomaly Expiration, and we've been

(24:01):
researching these. We call them light spheres, some call them orbs, okay,
but there are. They were often seen in conjunction with
bigfoot sightings or an area that have bigfoot had been
known to be. Now so some people say, oh, you're
saying there's a connection. I'm like, no, I'm saying there's
possibly two different phenomena that can occur at the same time.

(24:26):
I wish I could tell you.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Guys, you're right when we say that. We're not saying, uh,
I think the ORB was connected with bigfoot. But but
what we have to look at. You take the evidence
that that you see and you work your way back
how is it possible? So you know, we've seen the
orbs in our bigfoot research area. I'm not saying either
that they're connected, but I feel like it's the area

(24:51):
that's conducive to whatever. It's like, it's it's ripe for
whatever reason, whether it's caves or minerals and minerals or yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
And one of the things too, with with the portal area,
and I know I'm going in a bunch of different directions,
I'm sorry, but yeah, So with with some of these
orb sightings and things like that, there is a possible
and we've kind of thrown it out there. Weather from

(25:24):
the Sun, like coronal mass ejections, uh, you know, like EMPs.
What's the other one, geomagnetic storms. So let's just say,
let's let's go through the sun. Right, there's a huge
geomagnetic storm. And if you guys have noticed, I don't
know about down you know your way, but up here
we're seeing the aurora more than we ever have in

(25:44):
our lives, Okay in our lives, because we're getting all
these geomagnetic storms. So let's say there's a place, you know,
let's say you know a place that we research called Livermore. Okay,
it's in flung the Chestnut Ridge. Boom, you get a
you know, electraumatic storm. Boom, it comes to a place.
It's got rivers, it's got water, it's got valleys, it's

(26:06):
got minerals. Boom, you put all these things together. Then hey,
maybe a portal where opening can form under certain conditions
and we don't know what the heck can come in
and out again, just thrown it out there. I think
that's how a lot of great discoveries get made because
you I don't know what you want to call it
a hypothesis or but then you try to get evidence

(26:29):
for that. But if you don't find evidence, you don't
find evidence. So could that be It's possible.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, that's just normal for for some of us that
are curious. We might not ever have the answer. But
when you see things with your own eyes and there's
there's people with you, and or you catch it on thermal,
there's people with you. I'll send you that video after
the show, but I think you I've got I've got
an old video. This is kind of crazy. So anyway,

(27:00):
it's a natural. It's natural for some of us. Some
people see things and they're like they don't care, or
they don't they don't want to know. With me, I'm
like you, Okay, what can cause this? And what is
funny you say that? You said so, well, there's there's
more encounters happening, right or whatever. You pick a subject,

(27:21):
just what you said, we are seeing more Aurora borealis,
And I've seen it twice in my life, and I've
seen it more times in the past two years than
I have my whole life. So what happens when something
amazing like that happens. People flood to the fields at
dark at night that they normally don't there. They go
away from the lights, they go away from the cities.

(27:43):
They and and when you put yourself at ten o'clock
twelve o'clock at night in those situations, you're gonna start
seeing things we've been seeing, you know, And I think
it's shocking to them. But it's just it floods the
rural area with new people when something like that's going on.

(28:04):
So you have you have this, uh of course digging
into this. We know everything's energy, right, yes, and that
we could we could talk about energy for weeks. But
I feel like it's all of this. I feel like
it a combination of the normal stuff happening, but it's

(28:26):
it's kind of rare and people wanting to see it,
and then they get out and might have a big
Foot experience. Now that person might still Brian's the Brian.
I think Bigfoot's connected to the northern lights, and he's like, Uh,
what do you do with that? But that's what happens.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
I believe.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I believe people that that normally get out at those
times of night that I think that's what's happening. And
I'm with you. I've said this many times. I feel
like it's the people. Some of the paranormal is normal,
we just don't know about it.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
And what it is, a lot of it too. You
talk about energy one hundred percent. Uh. Also frequency, Uh,
each one of us, everything has the frequency. We all
have a frequency. Amanda frequency might be higher than mine
and she can see more. I might be in the middle, Rogers,
maybe yours is lower. So maybe all three of us
are standing in the field, and maybe Amanda sees it. Fully,

(29:25):
I already see it. Maybe you don't see it. It
happens with like a lot of you. Even UFO sightings,
They'll be four eye witnesses in a field and three
out of the four see something different. A lot of it,
A lot of a lot of it is also about perception.
What we can see, what we can see, you know,
conceive and uh. A lot of people don't want to
hear this, like especially with Bigfoot, if you if you

(29:45):
said the Bigfoot is not just a giant a like,
that's why our our our group we will never like
our my wife and I and our members will never
be a will never be mainstream with the Bigfoot people
never because we have always we have done we do
all of the paranormal okay, and we were we're throwing
all the creatures under an umbrella. Okay, whether Bigfoot is

(30:07):
paranormal isn't the unexplained That's why Center fron explained events.
A man to see something that's an unexplained event, that's
what we do. But uh so there's a lot of
stuff out there, a lot of even actually like for us,
we're actually I don't want to say we're getting away
from Bigfoot. We still take the reports, but it's just
not as high up on our uh you know, our

(30:27):
interest level as it used to be.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh, I understand totally. You you sound like you could
be a co host here because we talk about the
exact same things you're talking about, and we just try
to keep an open mind. If you if you close
off one section, that might be that might be the
bridge that leads you to to the other thing. Right, So,

(30:53):
uh yeah, I can't believe he's saying all this because
we're like, we're right on board with you.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Uh. Yeah, there's that that old saying and says I
know that I do not know. I'm sure you've heard that.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
I think, yeah, I think that's uh, that's healthy.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
And that shows if you're aware of all you don't know,
then you're on the right track, I hope.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
So I've been doing this long, I hope I'm want
to right track and not right in the middle of
the track. You know. I always tell people when we
do our presentation, my wife and I do presentations, we're
getting close to one hundred here, I think one or
two more and we're at a hundred together, and I'm
proud of that. But we say hey, and I even apologize.

(31:42):
I'm like, I have to apologize you that I can't
give you, you know, everybody's you know, sitting here watching.
I'm sorry, I can't give you definite answers. I really
am sorry. I'm going to do the best I can
try and explain it. But you know, do your own
research too, you know. And then somebody told me one
time it's okay to say you don't know. M h

(32:05):
absolutely a lot of and you guys, you know, I'm
sure you've already dealt with a bunch of a lot
of the ego in the Bigfoot field, right, Oh yeah, yeah,
why why It's like, well, I don't know, I don't
care if you're like this, like the talking head or whatever.
Oh sorry, I accidentally have my cat. Sorry I used

(32:29):
my hands a lot, and I.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Have to sit on mine or where oven mits because
they make fun of me because I talk with my hands.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah. So I'm like, here's what we know, here's some
of the experiences, here's some of the eyewitness testimony that
and we we try, we're pretty big into drawings. We
try to ask people, please can you draw what you saw?
And we we get like, we don't get a lot
of response, guys, we really don't. But we have a

(32:57):
book of you know, everything from dog Man to you know,
the Bigfoot, you know, one paradactyal reboard and a couple
of dog Man reports. We researched the dog Man to
some UFO drawings. We actually we've seen several UFOs over
our our time in the field. Uh so, you know,

(33:18):
we've had some pretty cool ghost experiences. I saw and
actually right in that doorway right there, I saw a
figured apperation of an old female. My wife was actually
sitting like right here, and our bathroom is like that

(33:39):
way or that way that way, and I was coming
out and right where that doorway was there was it
looked like a woman, an older woman, but she kind
of had she was kind of a little hunched, and
she walked into the the kitchen and I came and
I said, hey, tear again, I'm looking that way and
she's sitting and she goes, what And I went, my

(34:04):
face must have been waiter. She goes, what happened? You
see a ghost? I said, I think I did.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I saw it.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
I've done that with my husband as well. I've seen
a lot of a lot of things. And he's like says,
it's like, do you think I think?

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Did you see?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
It?

Speaker 8 (34:17):
Goes like, actually, yeah, I think I did. I said
those exact words before.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
And you know the fact that we're all wired different
and some of us see things that other people may not.
It's happened to me. I've seen something clear as day,
you know, nighttime, and my wife's sitting there in the
truck with me and didn't see it. And it was
so obvious, and then she's seen things that I haven't seen.
So I totally agree. And I think that's what makes

(34:45):
people like us curious. If I have friends that have
never had anything weird happened to them, at whatsoever they
could give to whatever. They don't care about none of this.
But once you see something, that's like if somebody comes
to you, Brian, you know, out of one hundred people,
two of them might want to draw something. They don't

(35:06):
want attention, right, they don't want people thinking they're crazy.
So it's hard. There's tons of people that have had experiences,
but there's very few that want to come on a
show like this or talk to you and actually physically
spend time drawing it out. Because for a lot of
those people, it's very traumatic. It's scary to me when

(35:29):
it happens, but it's done. You know, I'm fifty four
years old now, and I'm like, oh, not again. You know,
It's like it's not I get excited when we find
bigfoot evidence or whatever, but I'm scared of the paranormal stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
I don't know why, but I think it's something you
can't see. At least these other things. You can see
them coming and if they're going to come and grip
you apart, at least you can see it. It's what
you don't see it. It's scary talking about that. One
of the things that we've been got also pushing and
talking about is these we call them. The best way
we put them is we say shimmering predator type entities.

(36:11):
And everybody knows predator. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows. You
can see right through this stupid thing. You can see
the woods through it. You can see the outline. I
just received the report, oh less than a month ago.
It was an older report. The guy was coming out
of it. This was in Allegheny County, closer to Pittsburgh,

(36:31):
and it was about four in the morning. He comes out.
He has spotlights on his garage motion sensor spotlight, so
he's coming. He's not in that sensor rang yet boom,
sensors go on. He sees an outline of a huge
something and at the top of it looked like it
was glowing a little bit. It stood there, it saw him,

(36:55):
he said. It turned and when he turned he saw
the fool outline and he saw the garage right through it,
right in front of Oh wow, ran it was about
eighty eighty to eighty five ninety yards. It ran from
the garage to the woodline and he heard something crashing
through the way. He says, in a matter of four
seconds it was there. I mean, something to run that quick,

(37:19):
that big, that quick. And then he said, I know
it hit the woodline because it was crashing. It was
like crashing through the you know, but busting through the woods.
And hecas they only took about four seconds. And so
far we perceived about five of those reports. So people
don't want to talk about it. Oh okay, now now
the predator's out there, Brian, it's not bad enough. You're

(37:40):
you're looking for wear wolfs. Now you're looking for predators.
What's next? The tooth werry?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
You know?

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Well, look, and when people give descriptions, it's natural to okay, well,
I saw the Predator movie. It was kind of like that.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
So Mark Green, our good buddy. He was on a
documentary and he was trying to explain, uh, how horrible
this big foot screen was and he called they call
it the t rex roar well and chat uh and uh.
Some trolls like, how do you know what the t
rex sounds? Like, well, we watched Jurassic Park and what
that sounds like you kind of you're trying to paint

(38:16):
a picture, trying to paint a picture for people to
kind of put them there and show why you were scared.
And then you know, with with people first time experiencers, God,
it takes it takes a huge amount of courage to
call you or people that take reports because they don't know, uh,
because your little self conscious. First time I told my

(38:37):
stories publicly, I was scared to death. I was nervous,
I was shaking. But it, man, it was so therapeutic
to finally just get it out of there.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Sometimes, you know, you know, when I tell people, I'm like,
you know, sometimes it might sound crazy. It's almost like
we're therapists in a way.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Uh, definitely.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Somebody And I remember the one of the first when
we first got into this, one of the first Bigfoot
reports that we took. It was at a park called
Brady's Run Park, and I was talking about Bigfoot and
a friend of ours was it was her her friend.
She says, I saw it and we were at like

(39:17):
a mystic show or something, and all of a sudden
she had goosebumps up and down her arm and she went.
She goes, I haven't told anybody about this for three years,
and she drew with everything, and it's one of the
best drawings we have the creature. It was after a
storm and her friend and her horseback, so they're going
up this trail and they see something off to their

(39:38):
left and this creature stands up both hands like this
crowd showed its teeth and they just took off, both
of them took off up to the top of the hill.
When they got to the top of the hill, our
friend asked the other lady, did you see that? She says, no,
I didn't see it. I didn't see nothing. I'm never

(39:59):
talking about again this day, refuses to Michi saw and ironically,
like the way what that creature did, this is like
about six and a half foot tall brown creature, which
a brown creature was seen five years prior, almost right
down by the lake Bradi's Run. It's Brady's Runt Lake.

(40:21):
And on Finding Bigfoot, I don't know if you guys
watch Finding Bigfoot at all when it was on during
its hey day. I mean, I'm not like crazy for
it either, man to believe me, but I want to
learn about even if I can pick one or two
morsels from it. Yes, exactly. They went to Sumatra looking
for their rang pendict, the small creature, and one of

(40:46):
the eyewitnesses says, put its hands up. It was a
smaller one now put his hands up and growled, and
I'm like that gave me goosebumps. I'm like, oh my god, Sumatra,
Beaver County, same again, slightly different, what they look like,
the same behavior. That was like, wow, that was like

(41:08):
that really very few things that you're talking about a
detective putting puzzle pieces together right boom. Halfway across the world,
they're exhibiting the same exactly.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
Isn't it amazing how some of the reports of other
bigfoot like creatures, you know, year in Yahwee, all these
other international versions are so similar to sasquatch or Bigfoot here.
So that's why I think that's one of my one
of my things I think is just so fascinating about.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
So every single person, every single thousands of reports across
the whole globe. They're also they're all mistaken identities, they're
all apes. All it takes is one right.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
And there have been you know, of course, there have
been times where there was an animal, a regular, normal
animal that we know about in a place it shouldn't be.
What popped in my head. There was a TikTok video
the guy. It was funny. The guy was in the
hunting blind and it was right before daylight, and then
he was using his phone and the guy of the

(42:15):
his buddy, his hunting party bunch heard him shoot five
times and they went running down there and he's what happened.
I just shot a big foot. It reached in and
grabbed my cell phone and took off running with it.
And they're like, well, let's go see. There was a
blood trail and everything. Well let's go see. Uh, I'm
going to the truck, y'all can go, say he and
it got down there. It was a silver back gorilla
in the United States. You know where did it come from? Yeah,

(42:37):
So yes, there can be things like that. You're talking
about similarities. So our buddy Greg, Greg Howees and Alabama
the first one he saw. He was telling me how
it jumped up on the road. It leaped from one foot,
landed him of the road, he said, But its back
was straight and it looked like a scoop. You do

(43:00):
run almost like the feet, their legs are moving so fast,
and it ran with a straight back. Then I see
a video later of a simper back griller running and
it's similar.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
So there could be things like that, but that's that.
I think that's more rare. Wouldn't wouldn't you know about that?
Wouldn't you know? I know my my friend in Kentucky.
I'll cut this short. I went to visit him and
Olive Hill. It's not too far from you. Probably Huntington,
West Virginia is right across there. We were throwing the

(43:34):
football and I heard this halazious noise.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
No, what is that?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
He's back in the note in the hollars. He said, Oh,
my my neighbor want a line in a poker game.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
I go in the house and stay in the house
for the next three days. I'm not getting out there.
But we we understand that that can happen. But I
feel like, you know, the continents used to be connected.
There's there's they've split apart. Who's just say some of
those animals over there didn't take a ride and and

(44:12):
and create more animals. But I know they're rare, But
I'm all over the place to y'all, because I love
conversations like this, because you've you've talked to so many
different types of witnesses with different things. I had a
theory talking to some family that some of us may

(44:32):
you talked about frequencies and all that with light spectrum.
Also we see here normally.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Yes, but it could be outside of our yes, So what.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
If somebody can see in a sliver of light about
five over that we can't see.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Right, there's a lot of this frequency both exactly.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
So thoughts like that only come from curious people. Like
you said earlier, you're spitball and throwing stuff against the wall. Well,
ninety nine of them may be totally off base, but
that one time you might you might hit it, you know.
So we we a lot of my friends that are
into this. We we talk about it on the phone

(45:13):
and and and we laugh and cut up. But when
it comes time to like people like you, Brian, you
and your wife, you know, take it seriously. As a
person went through a traumatic experience, think about what they're
explaining to you. If I come to you and let's
say I saw what the young man saw at the
airport here, I would feel so self conscious like, Brian,

(45:39):
I know you're not gonna believe this, but what I
saw and tell you what it looked like. It's so
hard to do that, but anyway, I'll let you. I'll
let you continue. I have all these thoughts.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
I saw somebody that did put about Clarion County. Uh,
we did. I actually got a report from one of
the guys that used to work with from UH and
he was staying at a friend at Clarion County. Now
again he didn't really say exactly where in Clarion County
and uh, oh, Mark Eddy, thank you. Mark. Mark Eddy

(46:12):
is a friend of mine. I'm just seeing stuff pop
up down there. So he he said, you know, it
was at my friend's house and they his mom said,
I heard something screaming outside. So they go outside, and
he says, they go into the woods a little bit
because they lived in a trailer and the outska was
woods out there. He said, this dark, huge, dark thing

(46:34):
was in the is in the woodline and it started screaming.
He said, they turned back around and they ran in
the house and barricaded the door, and he goes, you
know what, he goes, I think it's a big foot.
It was huge. It didn't look like a baronet, screamed,
screamed at us. But that's the only one actually from
I know that there's Claring County for sure has has
multiple sightings there. It's just it's a little far farther

(46:55):
north for me, so I've only got up there like
maybe one time. So yeah, but what thanks for asking you?

Speaker 4 (47:01):
What's the I want to say, the beast, What's what's
one of your most favorite reports that you've taken?

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Well, the first one that I said about the Bras
Run Park because that was our first one, and just
something about that, you know, the first time you do something,
it's like wow, it always sticks with you exactly when
people ask them about like what's our best case, I
take about there's been eleven, but we've investigated seven maybe
eight now because it's we didn't really go there in

(47:32):
so we we lived in Beaver County. There's Lawrence County
up here, and there's Columbia at County, Ohio. Like within
those three states, we've researched seven white Bigfoot reports and
what I tell people, it could be the highest concentration
of white Bigfoot reports in the country in like three

(47:54):
three counties. Again, I've never really looked at it. But
so people say, a white bigfoot, wouldn't it be easier.
I'm like, I'm just telling you what they told me. Okay,
all of them except one. One was four foot tall.
It was a small one in a park Cascade Park,
if anyone in Lawrence County. The others were all almost

(48:15):
the same. They were about six and a half seven
foot tall. White. One of them actually hopped, believe it
or not, it hopped from tree to tree. The other
ones were, you know, they would lower. This one hopped
from tree to tree, and in several of them. One
in Beaver Creek State Park. I know you've heard probably
heard about that. That's in Ohio and then right across

(48:36):
the border in PA. The lady saw three times over
twenty years, and that guy saw it once. It's it
had like hair, kind of like over its eyes. You
barely saw the color of the eyes. I think, I'm
trying to think. I think they were yellowish. And I
had two eyewitnesses. I couldn't make it. They met and

(48:56):
they said, we saw the same thing. And where the
one lady saw the three and as the stones, you
know how they say, as the crow flies or whatever
might have been like eight miles. So again, nope, we
have not received any new I did receive one newer
order report, if that makes sense. Nothing new. We just

(49:16):
call him Whitey and he's called we call him Whitey.
He saw Whitey. But yeah, it's as a conglomerate those
cases together.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
That's really cool. I know at least three reports here
in the North Georgia area that David, the museum owner
I work for, has taken.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
David Bakara, Yes, Sir, Dave's awesome. I met him one
time and I just think the dude is awesome. I
would love to get down there. One time he was
down and he was down at the Mofman festival when
I was down there.

Speaker 8 (49:47):
Gotcha.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Yeah, just awful.

Speaker 7 (49:50):
Yeah, it's because the map that we have there has
got one, two, three that I know of. I don't
know the exact day it's alf, but I know of
three that are on on our little track age.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
They are very work. They do that.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
To think of you know where the name the Alabama
white Thing came from?

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Exactly exactly got to come from somewhere.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yep. If you if you look on the map at Flintville, Tennessee,
the Flintville monster as a crow flies. I'm about twenty
twenty five miles from there. And my wife's sisters people
have heard me tell this before. They didn't know that
I was into this. And she found out and she
paused and shed She said, Heather, we tell you about

(50:33):
the white when we saw back in the early two thousands.
And I'm like floored. But we're only twenty miles twenty
two miles from the Alabama line, right in the Flintville.
But you got these train tracks in these rivers that run.
It's perfect. It's perfect the places that you're explaining, some
of the places in Alabama. The terrain is perfect for

(50:57):
this because nobody their place, which is probably that nobody's
stepped no humans never stepped foot on because it's so rugged,
and that's where you're going to find usually as a rule. Uh, now,
we do know that dumpsters behind McDonald's or dairy queen
with sweet, they're going to draw, you know, sugar make

(51:19):
you do some crazy things, you know. Uh, animals are
the same way. And don't get on to me for
saying animals, y'all, they just I don't know what I did.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing I've said I said
that about uh dumpsters myself, that that down beaver freak.
Apparently there's a there's a family campground and somebody, so
I want to open her lid and prove them through.
I'm like they laughed at Like why would you laugh
at that? They call them opportunities opportunists right, if they
got an opportunity to eat something? You know, what does

(51:51):
bigfoot eat? We say anything at once, that's right.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Hey, Brian, can you do me a favor? Is that
your mic hanging from your ear? Yeah, you pull it
up a little bit. It's rubbing your shirt when you're
when you're you're good, You're good, Yeah, you're good. It's
just it was just when you were moving, it was
touching your shirt.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Okay, Yeah, you're good now.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
And there was reports somewhere up north where there were
some big foots eating out of dumpsters where people are
in line to drop their kids off at school, and
the cops came out and had to handle that. And
it's it's funny how these official reports are never official.
You know, you can't go look because the local sheriff.
Oh Joe, he he don't want to be ridiculed either,

(52:37):
he wants to be elected re elected again.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
So he probably show up as unknown or unidentified animal.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
In the Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
So.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
There there are pockets around this country, lots of different
pockets of activity that goes. It just gets swept under
the rug, and I wish that would stop. I have
a local guy, I'm not gonna mention his name. He's
high up in the sheriff's apartment, and he was telling

(53:08):
me about a couple now one calls they got in
the late nineties close to where I saw mine, and
I never had heard of that before, and I was like,
is there any way I can get that, and he said,
it's it's buried. If I ever get a chance, I
would love to have that. Nwe on one call and
guess where the guy was from, which it was right
on the interstate and that people travel and they get

(53:28):
off at the at some of those roads and go
to another little town. This guy was from West Virginia
and he said, no, I know what a bear looks like.
He said, it wasn't a bear. It walked across the
road and looked in my windshield at me, stepped over
the fence without touching it. It was a big foot
I know what it was.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
So what people say too about bigfoot? Okay, six sometime
maybe six and s seven in some cases, but they
all report the same thing. Huge, huge shoulders big why
uh like sort of like a linebacker, And just that's
what more than the actual height is the with how

(54:08):
big some of these things are now, I still it
seems like the ones out west or even bigger. I
just think there's more room to roam things like that,
maybe even better food supply. But the ones here too,
they have the wide shoulders, I mean they do, and
maybe a little skinnier as it ones. Maybe that one's
out west, But I'm telling me, they always said those shoulders.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
How the big thing was, Well, what it does, it
makes it uh for a witness, It makes it unmistakable.
And then you got the people you sure it wasn't
a bear. Well, if a bear stands up, there's two
there's two different it's not gonna have shoulders. Yeah, And
I tell people all the time, every time I've ever
seen a bearer look like a bearer, So I don't
know what to tell you.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Yeah, and then they run, I mean they can just
they've run just a little. There's so very clumsy. These
things can take off, and with the speeds they can
take off, it's not a bear. I mean, I guess
if you're driving down the road and you see something
out a corner or I am, may it be a bear.
But most of the people who get a good even
five or six seconds, that's not a bear. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I've even heard reports. Brian of Uh, I don't remember
I listened to so much because even though we're doing
the show, I like to I like to listen to people.
I like to listen to them tell their stories first
of all, to kind of see how they go about it.
And sometimes I'm like, yeah, they're telling the truth, you know,
which I'm not judging anybody. I just love to listen

(55:35):
to the stories because you pick up little things. There
was one where a hunter out west he was stalking
and he saw something and well maybe I don't know
where was at, but he said he saw this bigfoot
with its arm on a fence post. She's kind of
leaning on it. Watching I heard of maybe deer or
elk or something. So that's you know, a bear is

(55:57):
not going to rest to elbow up on a that's
a human characteristic. You know that that we would do.
So I love hearing those little details. And I know Amanda,
I mean she takes reports every week.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
That that's the little details I like listening to.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Though.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
It's always the little details that makes makes the stories.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
For the for the uh the wing dentities, the gargoyles type,
you know, and that's what they call them, you know,
gargoyles up here, bent back legs mm hmm. And one
an Allentown crossed the road and they specifically said it
when it walked, it looked like a chicken. Okay, you

(56:40):
know how the chickens kind of walk really well. There
was a report from Puerto Rico's reading in a magazine,
a night Watchman. He saw one of these things. He
said it was walking. He said it walk like a
chicken and had bent back legs. Again, there's those characteristics. Boom,
Puerto Rico, Ah, Pennsylvania a good distance there. So almost

(57:02):
the same same characteristic. So that's what like when I
get when I'm reading and I get those same characteristics,
that's like, wow, it gives me a shot of adrenaline.
I mean it really does, I know it Yep, it
sounds like a geek.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Geek, no, I totally understand because.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
It's like it's a little it's a little details that.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
And it's funny, like talking from experience, when something happens
that you're not expecting, it's funny what your mind focuses.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
On, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
And so all of this weirdness is going on, and
the only thing this guy could identify was it walked
like a chicken, because he knew what a chicken looked like. Right,
So it's scrambled. It scrambles your brain, and I feel
I feel blessed to be able to, you know, have
told my story and listen to others. But y'all if

(57:53):
you haven't, you know, you don't have to go on
the show and tell your story. I'm not I'm not
trying to get guessed. These people in chat, a lot
of them. If if if you get to know them,
add them on Facebook, and if they if they act right,
you know, just kind of talk to them because they're
we're all in the same boat. It's just I've got

(58:13):
a computer and a mic, and you know we're just
up here talking about it. But just I promise you
find somebody you trust and talk Calbrian, I mean, he's
not gonna he's not gonna, you know, put your information
out there.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
Yeah, we we we as as a rule we do
not give out names, uh you know, anonymity you just
you guys deserve it. Whatever. We will talk. We will
talk about the sighting, but we're not gonna say it
was on Route twenty two right next to the McDonald's,
or we don't give exact details right and never use names,

(58:51):
but we will kind of like at least say, you know,
just happened in Beaver County. Things like that, and most
people are are good to tell you the story, even
despite what some people say, hey they want it, they
don't even want I can't even tell you that I
talked to them. I'm like, you know, most people would
at least want to get their stories out. Just don't
use their names and don't use an exact location.

Speaker 9 (59:13):
M M.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Most people are going to be fine because because I'll
tell them. I'm like, hey, if I hear somebody something closer,
can I call you back or can I contact you?
And they all say yeah, please. It makes them feel good.
It's it's validating what they saw somebody else saw it,
and it means a lot. It means a world to
these people, and right, I think we should all treat

(59:37):
it as such. I mean, I know I've talked to
some people. Oh I've got four or five hundred reports,
but I can't release one of them. Why you're doing
Are you in it for ego? Well? Why you? I
me know, I just don't understand that. Like like you guys,
you know you both talked about, hey, somebody saw something
here here vague, but at least or it exhibited this

(59:59):
characteristics that's not they'll never get back to that person.
I'm like, there's a lot and as you guys know,
so much ego in this field. It's it's tarnished a lot.
For me. It is bigfoot field. It really has guys it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
You know, I totally understand. I was warned. Are you
sure you want to do that? Because they're they're people
are vicious and them I you know what, I don't.
I don't care. We have comments made, you know, we
you know, people share some of our screenshots or whatever,
and they make horrible comments. But they don't watch the shows.

(01:00:39):
Because some of the comments it's obvious that they didn't
watch the show. They'll read the tide or whatever. But Brian,
another thing, also some of these we're talking about the trolls.
They're scared. They're scared that it could be true. Possibly. Uh,
some of the ego stuff. I go by how people
treat me, you know what I mean, that's the proof

(01:01:02):
in the putting. How you treat me is how I
treat you. If somebody had a twenty years ago had
got sideways of each other, that ain't nothing to do
with me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Right, I'm not gonna choose sides now. If you make
me choose sides, I'm not gonna choose any side.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Right. So we're doing this. While we're doing it, we
don't have to explain it to anybody. We're trying to
get the truth, hear the truth. And there's sometimes you know,
I'm hurting, don't feel like doing the show. But you
know what keeps me going is these people in chat
right here, because a lot of them have experienced things
and they don't have anywhere else to go to talk

(01:01:38):
about it. They don't have a like minded people, they
don't have a library to go and have a big
foot get together.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
This is that you see me on other people shows
in chat because I'm doing the same thing, you know,
and you're right. You've made a statement there that's absolutely
one up percent correct. Even though I know they're real.
I've had my own stuff happen. And when if Brian
tells me a story and and I'm like, oh, that's

(01:02:07):
it's awesome, it's almost what what word you use?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
It?

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
It just lets you know you're not crazy? You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Yes, And it's it's validation. There you go, validation, the
eyewitness we're we wouldn't be anywhere without the eyewitnesses. We
wouldn't be anywhere without our fellow We have a wide
net of people that we researched with and every every
and goes speak for n UFOs up here in West Virginia,
PA and Ohio. Great people. And you know, I would

(01:02:39):
say ninety percent of the people are good in this field. Yeah.
The the negative to that that those five percent are
known and they cause so much grief and people do
know even though these five percent think, ah, they can
get away with things, they're non they're no.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Well here's the thing, just just in life and general,
that five percent makes the rest of us look bad. Yes,
So I'm with you on that. I don't have time.
I've had people that you know, if they want something
from you, oh your best things since sliced bread. Exactly right.
And I have been treated one way on the internet,

(01:03:20):
Oh Roger, Hey, how's it going? Then somewhere where you
meet them and then they high hated me because there's
a better known person. I don't that don't bug me personally,
but I just pay attention to that. Okay, that's how
you are.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
Just followed away and that's exactly like like so for
people like that, the best thing to do. Yeah, it's
just like, Okay, I don't want to deal with you.
I'm not going to cause you any trouble ever, but
I'm not going to You might get a high, but
I mean I know what you're what you are, and
uh what do you call it? You just deal with it.
Like like all the people in the chat room, they

(01:03:53):
are they just they want to hear many There may
be a lot of people in this room that I
have seen something and they still won't talk about it.
But m for that one show that one specific person
to say, is this creature floated? I'm just saying just
throwing that up too.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
That was one of the many reasons I came out
public with some of the other stuff that I've seen
besides just Bigfoot is just from listening to other podcasts
and shows and things like that. I was just like, Wow,
I know, how cool is that that person was brave
enough to share that information that it might help somebody
else who has had a similar situation. You know, Oh

(01:04:34):
my gosh, Okay, I'm not alone, I'm not crazy. So
you know, as long as it can be helpful and
beneficial to somebody else, and that's all, that's all I
want out of it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
Yeah, because I always say, you know, at there, we're
closer to the my wife and I are closer to
the end of our research that we are in the beginning,
and we know that, you know, you know when it's
coming right. Still, we haven't had a book out yet.
I mean, we want to maybe try to do this one,
a local one here for a bunch of reasons. But

(01:05:07):
I've been asked that so many times, you know, why
why don't you have a book ot I'm like, I
want to be honest with you, guys. It was, first
of all, it's a lot of work. Yeah, it's just
it's never been like high on our priority list, and
there's a lot of people that it is high on
their priority list, and I'm glad they get the material

(01:05:28):
out so like I can read it too. I mean,
I love We've given a lot of research, a lot
of our research to authors, and we buy their stuff,
we promote there's things for them. Even like the podcasters.
You guys applaud what you guys do. It's like I've
been asked, like you ever do a podcast. It's it's

(01:05:49):
it's like it's work, and you guys know that it's
so much work. You have to commit time and you
just can't come on. You You research the person, you
try to line people up, and like tonight, I'm so lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
You just got a good woman in the house. That's
what that's what.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
She's We always say that we used to live in
beaver Khank, that we were the Maldern Sculia beaver Khank.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
So you know, with you doing it for as long
as you have and being on some of the I
love small I love a lot of the shows. But
I like the way small town monsters, the feel of
their the way they do things, and some others. You know,
we've had Jill on with Flash of Beauty. She's been

(01:06:40):
down in the South with.

Speaker 9 (01:06:41):
Some of our friends and her and her husband, and uh,
you know, mhm, they've they've always treated me with respect,
even though we're a small show.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
I pay attention to that. But what so what goes
through your mind when and let's say, hey, you want
to be in the Mothman movie as an extra? How
does that? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
When they so they did that, they filmed around Pittsburgh, Okay,
And when the small part I did, it was up
at the Cathedral of Learning. And that's actually you know,
the guys are you know a Gear and Leak are
coming up the up the steps or Alan Bates and
Richard Gear and I'm walking towards I mean, you can't.

(01:07:29):
I mean you see my figures. It's darkened, but I'm
walking to I'm carrying a briefcase actually, but uh I
heard they were looking for extras, and I was like,
after Bigfoot, Mothman was I just I still remember the
first time I read this, this wing creature was flying
next to a car at one hundred miles an hour.
I was hooked. Mothman is my second second favorite after Bigfoot,

(01:07:51):
and just I was down there. I've been down there
probably eight or nine times at the festival. I was
able to speak twice, and I may be doing it
again this year. But it is so much fun everybody
down there. It's just like a big party, just so
much it's a good feel. Have you guys ever been

(01:08:12):
down to the mouth MANIFESTIV We're.

Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
Now, I have no Unfortunately I haven't got to make
it there yet.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
It is like it is packed the close down in
half the town. It's just packed. But it's such a
good feel down there, a good feel from the people. Now.
You know, just right across the river the bridge collapsed
and killed what forty six people when there was this
wing creature there, there was a massacred chief Cornstock. There's
a lot of negative energy. It's still there, but that

(01:08:39):
weekend that people bring it up and just you know
it's you. You got to make it on your bucket list.
You got to go there once, you really got to
go there. It's just so so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
I mean, you know, I have all these random dolts.
You know, you're talking about Mouthman and you look at
cave drawing, and you look at architecture, you through the
entries and there's all of these creatures represented of all types.
But then you get to twenty twenty five and people, oh,

(01:09:14):
you're crazy, Well what about what happened back then? You know,
there there were no I think like Edgar Allen Poe
was one of not the first, but there was other
people to write a horror stories, right, there was some
in the past, but that just wasn't something. Maybe that

(01:09:35):
was part of it. I don't know, but when you
see when you look at some of the buildings in
some of these big cities and you really get to
looking at them, kind of freak you out a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
They got carboils on the you know even that. You know,
the Native Americans they drew what they saw eactly. They
saw these heavy creatures. They saw these these beings with
big eyes. And you see those those cave, those the
drawings or the carving they got the almond guys like
the grays do. I mean, that's so you're you know,

(01:10:06):
what do they see?

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Well, Brian, I feel like that's the that's their version
of what we're doing right now. And what you guys
are doing. We're documenting is document however you do it,
whether it's videos, it's the book you know the other
people write, or you gathering all of this information and
putting it in one spot, Amanda doing what she does. Uh,

(01:10:29):
it's it's I didn't expect it to turn into something
like that, but I realized that early on. Now this
could be up for a while. You know, when I'm
not here, somebody sees a bigfoot that they're looking. They're
in Pennsylvania and they're they're searching, and Brian Seech pops up.
None of us are here anymore, but like, hey, Brian Seech,

(01:10:52):
what what did he get into? And that's kind of
humbling a little bit, uh, Which it's I think that's
what keeps me going to There's plenty of times when
I could have just packed it up and went home.
But I just I feel like we're doing something. I
feel like I feel like we're an underground network, so

(01:11:14):
to speak, and we're we're doing something out of the
curiosity things that happened to us and and and the
love of people.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
So I so when when a troll attacks me, I
don't even you know what others?

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Yeah, and I I talked to a lot of researchers
that you know, they'll post online somebody attacked them, and
I'm like, don't worry. About these well, I'm not gonna
say something about them, but you're better than them. I mean,
they're jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
The one thing I've always said, you know what the
easiest thing in the world to do or to be
is you know what it is with that skeptic you
do like I'm doing right now. You sit on your
ass and you say show me yep. Hard thing to
do is with me and you and you were doing.
I'll there trying to find information, trying to find the truth.

(01:12:12):
So uh in the you know, skeptic one one letter
from septic basically yeah, So it's kind of like, yeah,
it's it's well, I don't believe it, okay. I mean
I always say I put the information the best that
our organization has. I'll now leave it. Don't believe it.

(01:12:34):
It doesn't even bother me anymore. Do whatever. I'm just
okay because you're listening to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Me, right If you and I are talking privately and
you tell me about this creature that I've never heard about,
I've never had an experience with, I'm probably gonna go
whoa you know, then listen to you and then file
that away. Also. But when it comes to the things
that I've experienced. Like I tell people all the time,
the only thing I know one hundred percent for sure
is what's happened to me, what I've seen. You can

(01:13:01):
tell me what's happened to you. A man, I can
tell me what's happened to her. And because we trust
each other, we believe each other.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
But when somebody tries to troll me or be a
skeptic over something I physically personally witnessed, they don't know
that fear. They don't know what it feels like standing
in the woods and being surrounded by things throwing twenty
and thirty pounds bolterers and picking up logs and screaming,
and that's when it gets real. So I understand on

(01:13:30):
one end, and I didn't mean to get talking about
trolls here, but it's just part of it. We have
to learn. It's just like we had a store for
thirty years on Interstate. I had to learn early on
on how to handle my business. If somebody did something
to me, I had to wipe it away, and the

(01:13:50):
next person stepped up, I had to treat them with
respect and forget about. That's easier said than done, But
I think that job with my parents season them for this.
If that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Yeah, I tell you have to have a hard skin
to be especially you got do we we've been doing it,
but we're still not that well known even after forty years.
We really aren't. And you know, yeah, trolls are cryptis
too right. I mean we have to faith folk and
my wife and her friends study the faithfolk, the little people. Okay,

(01:14:25):
so but yeah, it's you gotta do it. Like like
when we're out there, I I enjoy this. Now do
I enjoy the conferences as much? Now I don't. I
don't the big conferences. Like last two years in Beaver County,
we've done libraries. One was at an Arab heritage museum
one hundred people, a Manaca library like a couple of

(01:14:48):
months ago, like almost one hundred people. They loved it.
That's what I'd rather do. I'd rather go to libraries.
I'd rather go to smaller things. You got to conferences.
If somebody's paying to come in, they're gonna watch your
thing thing and knit ticket of death. But if you're
getting the library, you know, doing your own time and saying, hey,
these people love it. I would rather we're actually gearing

(01:15:08):
towards more of that, uh, the smaller things as we
progress into retirement.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
The first, the first Bigfoot conference I went to was
in Gatlinburg a couple of years ago, and I learned
more from the crowd than I did. And I'm not
saying anything about the speakers. They did a great job,
but I actually learned more in the crowd talking to
people because I'm not shy I used to be. I'm like, hey,

(01:15:37):
what do you do? What are you doing here? What's
your interest? You know, what brought you here? And they
I didn't even start a podcast yet, but that's just
my nature. Because we had a store, I talked to
people from all over the world and and a lot
of them they whip out their phone. Look at these
tracks I found last week. Yeah, uh huh, holy crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
You know, I've seen really nice pictures of my you had.
Some don't, but it's like, you know, some do, and
I'm like, wow, look at this.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
You know, sometimes you're even afraid to ask them to
send it to you because then they'll be like, oh no, now,
I really don't trust you because you just talk for
yourself exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
So I do believe that the majority in this field
are good. I do mm hm, and and you know,
and in it for the right reasons exactly. Knowledge. Yeah,
it's cool. Like you said, you get on small time Monsters.
I was actually on Monsters and Mysteries in America if
you remember that show. I was on those episodes. It's

(01:16:34):
cool when somebody say I saw you on there that
I'm like, that was like eight years ago. That's cool.
It's still out there. Yeah, well it's funny, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
I saw you. I saw you on something probably a
couple of years ago, and I'm like, I say, I
seen a frame request. But then I don't engage with anybody.
I like, I let I let people say that I'm
not an idiot, like we haven't. And that's another thing. Uh,
the people that get upset about the legit questions. Actually

(01:17:05):
some of your experts all get upset about a legit question.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
You've got to think of yourself as a teacher. If
you've got people coming to you, they don't know everything
you know, they're trying to figure out things. And unfortunately,
I have heard stories of well known people that you know,
they were busy and they didn't have time to talk
to somebody, and it just kind of ruined there, they
were fans of them. But I can tell you and

(01:17:34):
I know Men and Amanda and a lot of people
in chat and friends we made. We all have senses
in humor. It's hard to hurt somebody that grew up
in the seventies, eighties and nineties that watched some of
the shows we did that have senses in humor. Right,
these people that are uptight, Oh, you can dig at them,
you can get to them, you can get under the skin.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Yeah, I mean I make I make fun of myself
more than anyway. I'm cool with it. I mean, I
like a good life, and you know, very few times
anymore to like, do I really get upside it? Just
I mean that then you let them win, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Yep. Sophia brought up something I'm gonna Sophia, uh, talking
about the deadline pass. I made a little video on TikTok,
and that thing's like five hundred thousand views. Uh, there's
a I didn't realize, and it's not it's like thirty seconds.
I didn't realize how many people are still interested in that.
But it's such a mystery, and there's so many different

(01:18:30):
explanations that came along decades later. That it's misinformation too.
I don't know whether it was on purpose or whatever,
but that always has intrigued me, that story. But yeah, y'all,
if I'm sure you've been living under rock if you
don't know about the Deadlafe Pass. But yeah, y'all go

(01:18:51):
check that out. They have they have a website that
have actual pictures from their cameras, all of their cameras.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Yeah, and there is the one with that looks like
the Yetich big type creature, and that was pretty That
was a pretty interesting picture, I will say it is. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Uh and me, you know, we talked about the little details.
The The one detail that stood out to me and
hooked me in was that the tent was cut from
the inside. You know what I mean. So you're you're,
you're you're trying to see what you've been in a
tent when something's going on you can't tell, you know.
They these people were scared enough in this this frigid temperature,

(01:19:29):
with the wind blowing, they were scared enough to risk
their life to cut a hole in the tent to
see what was outside. Yeah, now that one, you know,
that one little point there is I keep going back
to that when people say it was an avalanche or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
But you know, I've heard all the theories, you know,
big foot, ay you upo, I've heard you know, it
was a government some kind of an explosion that they're
that did it. I mean, who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Yeah, And you know, a lot of a lot of
countries they they handle their information because you know, back
in the day it seemed like it's way different nowadays,
but not too long ago, countries held back information because
they didn't want to look silly either exactly. You know,
I've heard stories of some things that have happened that

(01:20:17):
didn't go reported for that reason. But yeah, it's a
but that just goes to show you this is not
a Pennsylvania thing. This is not a southern Middle Tennessee thing.
This is worldwide. Yeah, and you know how many how
many people? You know, there's not many people doing what

(01:20:37):
y'all do. You're putting pins on the map. Basically, Amanda's
putting pins on the map. I'm locally got a small cluster,
but that cluster to me means the world to me
because it's it's close to where I had my experience.
So when I started getting those coming in, Hey, don't
say my name, but I was in this hall, I
was on this road. I'm oh, my Crid, that's two

(01:20:58):
miles from where I saw that. So it's yeah, and
what I just I don't know. I commend you too,
and you and your wife for doing that and it
it may be a small thing right now, but it
could be a big thing later, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Yeah, you know, we already kind of you know, making
plans what to do with the info once we go
to that happy hunting ground in the sky, right. But yeah,
it's it will go to you know, especially for us,
especially the the newspaper articles and the binders of newspaper.

(01:21:34):
I mean, we must have ten binders just of newspaper
articles and we will start to show a lot of
that in a couple of months. And I want to
make next year the year of Q and I want
to really you know, take pictures and throw stuff out
what we have and things like that, and uh, you know,
just in case it's our last big, big year. So

(01:21:54):
I want to at least go out on pop both
of us.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Well, and when you do that, I'm not saying come
on the show. I'm saying just let me know, like
on Facebook and stuff. We'll reshare it for you? Yes,
you know what I mean, because you because I.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
Watches us.

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
Yeah, I was thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
I was thinking, boy, they make a good museum exhibit.
But I'm not gonna say anything. But there's there's no ego.
Uh Me and Amanda and Ashley and you know a
lot of our friends. We I don't care if I
if I get some great evidence and as long as
it gets out there, I don't care to put my
name on it, because that's that's not what it's about.

(01:22:38):
There are people out there that've got this idea in
their head that they're going to make I have no idea.
I have no problem people making money at all. That don't.
We've been in business for you know, all my life.
I grew up learning how to price uh cans of
beans when I was like five, so my daddy taught
me how to figure the profit and all that. So yeah,

(01:23:03):
I think it's important for the subject, for people like
us to be involved. And I'm not putting me in
that because of no egos, because we don't you know,
we just want the truth out there. And that's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
And and the thing is, if you put it in
a book and want to charge twenty five dollars. That's
that's okay, that's cool, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Uh I would probably buy it so and I know
Amanda would she buyt three copies in case you want
to read it more than once.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
But yeah, I mean we will that that's I think,
you know, because well, I'm I'm closer to retirement now
than I ever was, right, and uh so that could
be like a you know a little extra source of
income you know, after retirement that we have done to
do that. But the one thing I told my wife
is that we don't. I don't want to even in retirement.

(01:24:01):
I don't, like, I know, I know people out there
they're going to something every weekend, and I'm like, I
still don't want to go to something every weekend. And
you know, yeah, and you know, maybe like we tend
to do our talks and things, we tend to do
them and almost like we might do like in October,
we might do three or four just in October and

(01:24:21):
then two or three year and then have months with nothing,
and I like that, you know, like I know, like
right now after you know, after this show here, I'm
going to be on back on midnight Lecanthropy with Kenny Thibio.
I don't know if you know Kenny or not. And
then that's going to be it for the year. And
I don't have any I'm doing a Crypti panel in

(01:24:43):
I think April, so I don't really have a lot,
so that could give me time to maybe start on
this book.

Speaker 7 (01:24:49):
So do people do people reach out to you to
do these talks or shows, not shows the presentations that
you do, or do you you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Guys, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
When I say that we're not well known, we're more
well known just in a couple of states up here, okay,
and there's a big network up here. So this person
will say, hey, we haven't had him on. Let's get
him on. Let's get them, let's get them both on.
We do more talks together now than we ever did.
We try to do. We try not to turn anybody down,
but like the ones that I would always I'd love

(01:25:28):
to go to Cryptic On once. I don't know if
you've ever been to that in Kentucky as well. Go
I like to go there one time to speak just
so I say I did it. I always say that
I want to go there one time just to say
that's it. I don't have to go ever again. That's
why I want to do moth Man one more time,
which will make three for me and then I'm good,
you know. But yeah, but some of the local ones

(01:25:49):
we do try, you know, try to go and try
to we try to accommodate everybody. Sometimes we can't, and
I feel bad. Yeah, we try, you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Know, It's it's just I don't know. I mean, I
would like to try it. But Amanda did a good job.

Speaker 8 (01:26:08):
She was at one in Georgia, right, Yeah, it was
one in Georgia. A gentleman that Neil Ryder put it on.

Speaker 7 (01:26:18):
It was called the Encounter's Conference, and through word of
mouth he found me and invited me to speak. And
that was my first speaking gig on this kind of stuff,
and it was a new experience.

Speaker 8 (01:26:29):
I actually enjoyed it. And uh yeah, it was a
new experience for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
The hardest part I've always found is for both of us,
the beginning. Yes, once you even like two or three
minutes and okay, I'm in this, I'm feeling it.

Speaker 7 (01:26:45):
Yeah, like and my husband even gave me the same criticus.
It's like you can tell you were stumbling there at
the beginning. But once you got into it and got
into the flow of it, you just rocked and rolled
through it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
So we got Kenny. Kenny says, does Brian have any
chestnut redge stories? I think we all have a chest
chestnut ridge in each county.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
But yeah, so yeah, the chestnut ridger, well here in PA.
I'm in West Virginia, I still forget. So yeah, it's
a it's a one hundred and ten mile range from
I think Indiana County down into uh, West Virginia. What's
it called in West Virginia, Morgantown, And they call it
the PA Twilight Zone. We when I was with the

(01:27:26):
Old with the Old PA Pennsylvania big Foot Society, we
my wife and I were up there a lot, and
we do talk about some of those in uh it's
called Sasquatch Unearthed the Ridge. I'm in that one. Terry's
not in that one. I'm in that one, Sasquatch Unearthed
the Ridge, and I'm in three or four episodes of that,

(01:27:48):
and I talk about some of the some of the
things up there that have happened, and you know, some
of the things we've seen and things like that. But
that's a long time ago. We don't. We We have
too much around here to do when do we even
get to do it? Now? We still do it, but
just not as much. We're trying to hike and do
more here in these rugged mountains of West Virginia. And

(01:28:09):
I'm telling you it ain't easy. I can imagine we
actually live and we call a holler. We're we have
a like off to the left, here's a big hill,
a creek in a hill. Over there, there's a big hill,
and I've hiked them, and if they're not easy, I
mean I found some caves up in there and it
was pretty cool. But I don't go there a lot.
It's just, you know, the body says, oh, the mind

(01:28:30):
says I want to go after the body says maybe tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (01:28:34):
And then when you do do it, then it's like, oh,
why didn't we do that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I do it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
I feel it, I really do. I mean I wish
I wish you could have came down here about ten
years earlier, to be honest with you. But we still
do it, just not as much as I want. What What.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Have y'all ever had anything that made you question why
you do get out and research like something scary? I mean,
I probably know the answer. I mean, you're you're talking
about saying a ghost in the doorway behind you, and so.

Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
Yeah, that was. And also another two more ghost stories
if you want me tell them real quick, I mean,
if yeah, please do so. One of the ones we have,
we had a friend up in ere Erie, Pennsylvania. Lake Erie,
it's on like Erie is on Lake Erie, and uh,
he was a minister there and they were having they
were seeing shadow people. They were having books fly off

(01:29:26):
the off their shelves. So when we were there, we
didn't have that happen. But we we went downstairs and
they had like a little rec room. Walked down these
steps and there's two doors with those you know how
the handlebars come out. You've seen the doors. So we
go through it. We turn left and he's showing us
the old foundation. So we're taking pictures. Right, it was

(01:29:49):
maybe eight o'clock whatever. The whole church was locked down.
Only one other person that keys, and he was nowhere
to be there was nowhere there. So we hear coming
down the steps. Then this door starts shaking. It's going
to like something's trying to come through it. I like
our eyes were like this wide. And then he says, yeah,

(01:30:12):
just finished taking the pictures. I'm like no, So I
ran out and went looked, looked out the little window.
Nothing boom. I run up the steps into the church
and I'm looking. I'm like, there's nobody here. We and
so did he. His name was Robin and boom boom
boom bum bom bom boom boom that that that door
started to shake. I mean three of us heard it,

(01:30:34):
and it was like, somebody's there, someone's coming through the door,
but nobody. And the other one we did a private
house in a rochester in Beaver County, and this couple
would start doing things to their basement, fixing their basement.
And you know, if you read any ghost stories, sometimes
if there's an old house and people make changes, you know,
the ghosts don't like it. Right. So my wife and

(01:30:56):
the homeowner and another lady who in the ghost group
that we were with at the time, they're in the house.
Me and the gentleman who owned the house, we're outside.
So we're outside next to this pool, this little plastic
kids pool, the kind of you blow up and it
has a ridge around it, you know how it has
a ridge around it, and then the pool okay. So

(01:31:18):
we're standing there talking then and the pool was about
maybe ten twelve feet from us. All of a sudden,
the top of that pool like this, something is pushing
it in. It went down until the until it went
below the way to the water, and the water was
cushing out, maybe only goushed out six five or six seconds.

(01:31:41):
It went real slowly up. Now there we weren't we
were far enough away. We were looking at each other.
We didn't do it, and there was nothing else, no dogs,
no animals, no nothing there. And that way it went down,
It went in a v and the water's gushing out

(01:32:01):
just maybe maybe four or five seconds. I can't even
remember because it was like we're just there and then
it just came back. So those are the the uh
and then whatever this was in the back of us.
So those three.

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
It makes you makes you wonder if something was trying
to communicate with you and that's the only way it had,
you know, I was like wow.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
You know, I was just like and we did go.
We did an investigation in April. It was it this
place called the Grand Hotel and it's really cool. The
the guy has themed monster rooms like there was all
we stayed in the Frankenstein room. It was so cool.
But we went downstairs. They have a video place for

(01:32:42):
the guests. There's a plastic coffin there, so I got
my EMF reader. I go to one end and that
thing not an EMF, a Trifield meter. This thing went
boom boom all the way up to three hundred, three hundred.
Then it went down. So I'm like, wait, is this
a false for eating something? I did it three more times. Nothing.

(01:33:04):
Then I go to the other end of the coffin.
It wasn't a huge coffin. It was a replica plastic coffin,
just for a show. I went to the other end.
Woom three hundred again and then it slowly went down,
and I did, I checked each one. I would go
and I left. I did the whole room and that
would come back just to see and nothing. Just twice

(01:33:26):
one each end of that room and that meter. I
have never seen a meter or shoot like that. And
so I'm thinking if it was something underground because there
was a little basement or it should have done it
again and it didn't right again. Can I explain that? No?
I mean, was it a ghost? I don't know. I
just thought it was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
It's energy, right, yeah, right, So have you do y'all
ever take some of your equipment. There's more geared towards
ghost hunting out to the woods.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
Yes, we've been doing that for about three or four
years now. And I take that trifil meter with me.
We've taken EMF, we've taken the guy Geiger Connors, just
to see maybe we find an area that could be
a portal. Maybe it's a high energy, maybe it's an EMF,
maybe there's something coming through there. Maybe it's close to
a sighting that happened years ago. Yeah, I really do

(01:34:19):
think this and see if this is true. Keep us
in the back of your mind. Seeing about four or
five years. If more people aren't doing that, I think
you're gonna find like especially like Bigfoot. They don't want
you know, what are you carrying around? Oh I'm not
carry around nothing. Why do you have any f me?
You're I don't know. Just you know. They more people,

(01:34:44):
I do think are starting to have more thoughts on Bigfoot.
They just don't come out and say it. They don't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Well I think, yeah, what we talk about, Maybe it's
the area that draws things. So yeah, and I know Hardy.
We were out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
Yeah, you ever come to Tennessee or Alabama. Let me know.
We've got some places.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Down there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
Yes, there's some, there's some. There's one spot somebody mentioned
earlier in chat. I think it was Michael x.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
There's a place where that we all go in South Alabama,
Talladega National Forest. It's on the thirty third parallel. There's
courts Land everywhere. We've had some strange things happening, multiple witnesses.
We've caught stuff on audio, we've got video.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
Uh. And it's and it's not just it's fears too,
like orbs and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
I got Yeah, you want me to show that right quick?

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
I mean, if you can, I don't want to know
you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Let me let me show you this right quick. Because
there's people in chat that's never been here before.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Oh okay cool.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Uh So this this was in uh, this was the
first of the summer. I'll set it up. We're on
the thirty third parallel. It's about midnight. I had just
showed people how to make cold fire courts so released energy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Right, Yeah, I've done that. That's pretty cool. I'm in
the dark. That's so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
I'm not saying that's what caused this, but check this out.
Oh that's cool and watch it. Uh, it's see through.
It looks like a it looks like a nucleus human. Uh,
it's got a membrane and a Yeah, the nucleus looks

(01:36:21):
like a human.

Speaker 8 (01:36:22):
This part here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
And when it dropped down, Kenny had his therm on.
He said, I got it, and there he is. He's
were But that was like I've.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
Heard plenty of theories, plasma possibly plasma. It's I mean,
I hate to say this, it's almost like these things
are sentient, like they're I know, energy, but maybe a life.
I mean, it's I don't know. Some of them like
they're going through the wood searching for something. Sometimes they
it seems like they can change your density and go

(01:36:56):
into the ground. Even I think, uh, what's his name, Ronnie?
The blank hat that happened up in that Massachusetts It
wasn't straightening to the ground disappear.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
If you watch Skinwalker Ranch, they show a lot of
times where they go into the mesa and come out
in another another area.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
And remember, remember you gotta shoot rockets. I don't care
to shoot a rocket. What I love. Maybe I'm teasing,
but I love that show. But it's like, you know,
how about like no rockets this time? It's like, yeah,
stimulate the enigma or wherever they want to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
The Uh you know, but I've seen I've seen ball
lightning before and I saw a huge about the beach
boss size orb on the train tracks one time here
and if you look up to Chapel Hill light and
and uh I heard of that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:45):
Yes I have.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Okay, I've seen that personally. I'll tell you about it sometime.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Uh, Sophia, I don't know who you are. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
Yes, I was like, I was like, what does that say?

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Thank you so much? We appreciate it's that stuns me.
That hardly ever happens. So but the plasma part where
you're getting too. We saw the first orb my wife
ever saw with me. It's in our North End hotspot

(01:38:18):
how we call it here, and actually it's not far
from the Chapel Hill light sight. But it wasn't round
it was, but it was it was changing sizes. It
was about that long, and it was up in a
tree about ten foot and it just was slowly like
it was liquid but it was light. And I said,
something to somebody like, I don't understand what it is,

(01:38:41):
and there's well that counts as an orb too, but
it could have been plasma like it let Brian. It
lasted fifteen to twenty minutes and we changed Now. I
didn't get out and go try to get a picture.
It wasn't too far from us, but I did change
angles with the truck to try to get a better
look at it. And I went back the next day

(01:39:02):
to see if there's any equipment in a tree something
I didn't, you know, somebody put up a trail cam
or which it didn't look like that, which I had
to make sure the leaves on the ground hadn't been
disturbed and forever. So I don't know what that was.
She doesn't know, but it helped me because now she
likes going out because we've seen some strange things and

(01:39:24):
it's cool to her. But yeah, when you say plasma,
if you'd have said that three years ago, i've been
I would have been like what. But as you get
to do in these things and learning more about it now,
I don't know what it was is it Does it
have something to do with bigfoot? I don't know, but

(01:39:47):
we had we.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Had a citing a gentleman told us when he was
young along the I think it was I think it
was actually a Clarion river. Yeah, bron Kennerdale and he's
a him and his friend. It was at night and
they were walking along the river bank there and he said,
he's they saw this this orb and light sphere what

(01:40:08):
everyone calls. And it was white and he said it
was above the river and fall in the river and
he says, you could see it as clear as you know,
clear as day, and it was. He said, there was
no reflection in the water. How is it in the water?
How could something like that not But he said, no reflection.
And this dude is super smart.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
That's he That's a detail.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
That's again little details exactly, the little details exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
If that happens, and anything else we ever get.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
So you know, wow, I do look we and we're
we're our show is full of I don't know. But
all we can do is report what we've been told
or what we've seen, and let and if anybody out
there can help us out welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:40:57):
I always loved it. I loved it the one even
like if we do libraries, I love to put this
stuff out and I'll say, anybody's seen this, anybody's seen this,
or afterwards they come and talk to us about this,
because sometimes if you're in this as long as we
are too, it's like sometimes you can't see the forest
through the trees. They're like, did you ever think of that?

(01:41:18):
I'm like, no, right, I'm always like I learn every day.
I have to learn every day. Okay, I didn't go
to college, went you know, one year of Vibe Junior
college like CCBC, and I figure, every day is my college.
I have to I have to think like that. I've

(01:41:38):
got to I've got to learn from everybody and learn
as much as I can because everybody's could have a
piece of this puzzle.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
Somebody once told me one time it was funny because
you know, you can learn from the village drunk if
you listen to them long enough. I'm like, you know,
think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Mm hmm. You're right, because that's something that might have
seen things that he can't handle, you know what I mean.
If you can catch him mental clear moment, you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:07):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
I don't know, you know, maybe one of these days
we can connect the dots or whatever. But I feel
like I feel like I've been shown things, not that
I accidentally saw it, and I know that's just a feeling.
You talk about feelings. I feel like if i'd have

(01:42:34):
seen the UFO before I saw the Bigfoot, I probably
would have flipped out little more. But I've already had
that old crap moment three years earlier. That was just
mind boggling. But uh, and then somebody asked, have have

(01:42:55):
I been touched? It was a comment way back up there.
And the only time I've ever been touched, well, there's
two times, but one I got grabbed by the big toe.
I was I was laying awake in a hotel room
in Gatlinburg and it felt like these two fingers grabbed
me on a big toe and snatched my leg off
the bed, and I don't like that. That's not you know,

(01:43:15):
I'm not a ghost person, So.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Let's see, I've never been touched.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Yeah, Uh, is this the one Kenny you're talking about
said that you can blow up the orb and see
faces in it. They caught on a trail camp. That's
that's something I was going to bring up to. You
said something about how they feel like I don't know
if they're being manipulated or their own entity. But I
was trying to figure out because this this thing was

(01:43:42):
set to black hot and almost like before, it moves
like it it may change and it's pulsing a little bit,
so it's almost like it well it being the first
thing is looking like a human. Say what in a
mess for looking like it's alive? It looks like a

(01:44:02):
human sale.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
Right, Yeah, like it has a like a brain or something. Yeah,
I mean it's you know. And the one thing I
always say too is everybody wants black or white. There's
a gray area, and I think a lot of what
we've always done and what you guys do, it's in
that gray area. A little bit of this, a little

(01:44:25):
bit of that. Maybe there's plasma balls, maybe there's energy balls,
maybe there's earth lights. These could all be different, doesn't
have to be one thing. And this is even like bigfoot,
you know, maybe there are bigfoot that are just flesh
and blood creatures like bears. Maybe there's some extra dressers
mixed in there, and maybe just paranormal enterities that can

(01:44:45):
slip in it out somehow.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
Well, if I if I was an alien and a
couple of humans caught me, I would I would if
I could I would change myself into a Bigfoot like
portray it, you know, and confuse them. But Sophia God like,
thank you. So I'm gonna read this comment here and
it you've probably heard this before, Brian and Amanda. Like

(01:45:09):
one of the first questions I ask, and a lot
of people ask when they saw I shine with the
big Foot. First, a lot of people ask what color
it was, and there's some different colors. But also was
it emanating light or was it eye shine? Renee that
was with finding Bigfoot. I saw her give a speech
and she actually admitted to seeing red eyes and there

(01:45:30):
was no light to illuminate anything, which confused her. Now
her being the skeptic, you know, it's a TV show,
but hearing her talk about that and it scared her
and something walked up beside her and never left, and
she's in the dark right. Hearing her say that this
is this point right here that you said, I feel

(01:45:52):
I'm with you. I feel like it could be different types.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
So I don't think that's wrong. I mean every like
a lot of the Bigfoot people, they wanted to be
a gigantopithicus, they wanted to be a you know, some
sort of undiscovered North American ape and it may well
be like for me, I really don't care what it is.
I just want to research it. But if you even suggest, hey,
maybe there's maybe it's some interdimensional creature, oh man, they

(01:46:16):
jump off all you're you're not a real researcher. And
you laughed at, you get laughed at now. You know,
even when we started doing that the dog Man phenomenon
years ago, okay they were people were laughing about us
around here. But we brought out the Shanango Valley dog
Man Shanango Valley dog Boy, which we ended up believing

(01:46:37):
that it would just end up being a kid with hypertrichosis.
And that's on monsters and mysteries in America. But so yeah,
we were what was funny about that, though, we were
laughed at until the same people that were laughing at
us saw how many people were coming and wanted to

(01:46:57):
hear about that and how much publicity and what we
were we were in the newspaper articles up in Mercer
County and stuff. All of a sudden, hey, you know,
we're getting left out. Let's start researching this. It's funny
like something that some people just do it and they
still don't even believe it in a hunch, but just

(01:47:19):
to get that publicity, maybe you know, sell some stuff.
Let's all. I'm all in it now. It's like you
laughed at us two months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I'm gonna read dis ract quick with Sophia's one Indian
man told the legend about the eyes of Sasquatch. They
have crystals that make those lights from their eyes. In
the interview on the channel Small Town Monster, he told
it to Alexander Pettakov and then Kenny are a good buddy, Kenny,
he's Creek. Uh what did he say that name?

Speaker 7 (01:47:49):
Yeah, it said, uh oh yeah. A lot of natives say,
do not look at their eyes. And I'll read this
comment as well, Joshua. They've been sharing actually some interesting
h encounter stories in the comments as this show has
been going. And he says that he actually didn't see
any face at all on the on the creature that

(01:48:09):
he saw. So so there's a lot of anomalies with
these things that exactly if you get your head out
of the gigantopithecus exactly world, it opens it up to
some really interesting stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
What we do, like especially at our talks, if so, Amanda,
let's say that I talked to you and you say,
this creature didn't walk, It floated across the across the
or the meadow. I'm like, that's going on my report.
It's not. Amanda said it ran really fast. In No,
Amanda said it floated. Guess what. That's what I'm saying.

(01:48:47):
That's what we're going out there, we're going to I'm like,
this is your story. All we do is we're a
relayer of the of their sightings. All we are. I don't.
We don't mold it one sighting to fit our you know,
whatever you want to call it. Now, when we did
the dog Man, things we found in some of our cases, Okay,
that these creatures are seen around power sources or during

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electrical storms or by power substations. Now that's and we
we've had maybe three or four like that. The rest. No,
but so could there be some weird connection with power substations?
If they're interdimensional? Do they need that to manifest or
walk through? I don't know, and I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Well, no, it's actually right. It's fun to do this.

Speaker 7 (01:49:34):
Yeah, there's another's talks in like the ghost hunting, that paranormal.

Speaker 8 (01:49:41):
Camp whatever you want insert term there that they talk
about that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:45):
You know, people can have hallucinations and things like that
that they could think is ghosts and things like that
happening in their homes, but it's actually just the electrical activity.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Too close to.

Speaker 7 (01:49:59):
So I mean the fact that you could have that
happening with you know, cryptids and other things like that too.
You know, I don't see why people couldn't automatically think
that that there could be correlations there.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Yeah, and spitballing. One day, I was talking to a
friend and he has a podcast, and we were just
being goofy, and he showed me the Cave system map
and then the Bigfoot you know map, which we know
is skewed because probably less than one percent of people

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will tell somebody. So we're talking and I just happened
to mention, you know, our hotspots we have no phone
signal at all. And the reason it irritates me because
I could go live and bring people along, but I
have to do videos, right unless I get on the
top of this big hill. And then I just said
something like, I wonder what the no cell phone coverage

(01:50:54):
map looks like. And I do understand that there's a
reason they would overlap because of how mountainous or war
or whatever. But I was like, Okay, so if these
things are all about energy, what if these five G
towers or cell towers interfere with their mojo? You know

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what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
You know what I've heard. I've heard that from somebody
here that's not yet exactly. Yeah, it's why not Why.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
Couldn't don't everybody don't go say I heard Rogers say exactly,
It's just I do that because it may be totally wrong,
but it may give somebody smarter than me another.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
Idea exactly Like I saw somebody say about the eyes paralyzed,
the can paralyze the victims. Well you've heard of the
infrasound with some of these creatures. We were I was
twice out of all the times we were out at
they twice. One was really really it affects myself and

(01:52:01):
my wife and our friends Dave and Carrie at salt
Forth State Park. And I'll do this very brief because
I know we're coming there. Did the end here? So
it was during a conference weekend, okay, but we had
a couple of our members at the handicap shelters, so
we pulled in. Uh, you know, with myself and my
wife and Terry, Carrie and Day we pulled in. As

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soon as we got out of the door and put
put our feet on the pavement, we were all hit
by something. We're like, whoa. We all looked, all looked
each other. It was like it was like something out
of a movie. Yeah, We're like, something don't feel right here, okay.
So we walked a short distance to the like this

(01:52:44):
rotunda thing and gazebo type thing, and there was like
four four or five of our members there and as
soon as we got there we didn't say a word
to them. They said, something is off tonight. So Dave
and I I mean, we walked to our vehicles and
we got on some equipment. We walked around the perimeter
and such a strong feeling there was something didn't want

(01:53:08):
us there. It was like you were hit with this oppressiveness,
like get out of here. Like we walked up and
down maybe ten to fifteen minutes. We walked back to
the you know, the zebo, and it was like boom.
It was like somebody took a switch and shut it off.
It was like you started to hear things in the
woods and everybody went so where we hit with him

(01:53:33):
for some If there's one time did it, I believe
there might have been something there that was the time.
But I do say we didn't see anything. We didn't
hear anything, and we didn't smell anything. Okay, but you
sure as hell fell felt it uncomfortable, like there was
something there so on us with the way.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
I said, well, maybe maybe it got it got its results.
It wanted you to leave.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
I've been I've been hit with energy before a few times.
And what I've started doing when I feel it, if
I'm live or whatever, I'll tell people just to document it.
May not anything come of it. Just a couple of
months ago, I got hit from the right so we
heard a monkey sound. Me and my son, he's in
the chat now, hee Willie. I felt it. I got

(01:54:20):
hit on the right side and my hair stood up
or whatever, and I was I'm like, oh my god.
And Peyton I didn't say anything. He said, do you
feel that. I'm like, oh no, I said, what are
you feeling? He said the same thing, But it was
coming from the side that this all I can call
is a large monkey sound. We heard it twice within

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ten minutes. I don't know what that was. But the
fact that I didn't say anything and he brought it up,
that's tangible. That's what. I don't know if that's the
word for it, but that's confirming.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
Now do we know what it was? We have no
idea what it was, but guess what we did? We left, so.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Well, yeah, just this. If it was something, it left
us and uh it was kind of a good thing
because it was what you call it. It did not
feel good. And we've been there several you know, we've
been there about six eight times over the years, not
something except that one night, and uh, it's like, yeah,
you guys, maybe you shouldn't be here tonight. But at

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least at least if it was something, you know, well,
at least.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Did you know, and you're not saying what it was
because you don't know, And that's the best way to
go somebody, as you know. Uh, Rusty asked in chat,
he said, didn't you feel something to Holland yeah, I did.
The first time I ever went there. When we pulled in,
something hit me. My stomach got Judy and I turned.
I stopped the truck and I told my whiy, something's
going on and it's it's it's pretty strong right here.

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And then once it eased up, we went on in
and met everybody, and and just a two three hours
later we caught a big foot screen on audio. So
and then I had somebody say that when they pulled
in there was one looking at them. So, I don't know.
I've been frozen before, like something hit me and I
couldn't take a step forward when I was younger. I

(01:56:17):
don't know what that was. But in my mind, why
I did this, I don't know. I said, if you'll
let me go, i'll turn around, step on my right foot,
I'll go home and won't come back today. It just now,
I don't know if that's power suggestion something I did
to myself. But as soon as that feeling went away,
over exactly what I said I was going to do

(01:56:39):
and went back home. I don't know what that was,
but I know that the more we do this, the
more we run into things like that. Now, some people
are not as receptive to it exactly. It's but you
know it sounds like you are, and it's probably why
you're doing what you're doing. It's just but anyway, what

(01:57:00):
about a part two? Sometimes sure, if you if you
start a podcast, We'll come on and talk to you.
You retire to start a podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:57:11):
Yeah, because we didn't get into any of your experiences
and some of other research stuff. So yeah, I would
love to pick your brain on some of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Yeah. Sure, And I think maybe next time I know
what I'm doing. This is the work better?

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
Oh you're good, right, Brian?

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
What what I like to do? What we like to do?

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
The first show I like for even if you've done
one hundred interviews, you know, we may have a different
group of people. You know, there's there's there's there's big
Foot and Mothman. People come in everyday, new people, right,
don't don't know who none of us are. I want
everybody to get to know the guests first, to get
to know you. And I feel like that that's very

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important because there's people that I know that I've gotten
to know. When they tell me things, I trust them.

Speaker 6 (01:57:55):
So I.

Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
Think we're very lucky because this is almost didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (01:58:01):
Yeah, I agree, I'd have felt bad. I but again,
like I said, we're we're down here in a place
that you know, sometimes the signals get mixed up, and
that's why I'm like, I love doing them, but there's
always like, oh, I hope nothing happens wrong and.

Speaker 8 (01:58:18):
It never fails. Is when you need it to. Actually
all work is whenever it all goes to crap.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
It's always it's always Sometimes when you do a recorded
show that you're more laid back, it's like I might
get it, but it might take me twenty minutes, and
they're they're going on in five, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
So yeah, but that's the good thing. Well, you did,
you were you did perfect. You came in way early,
and yeah, that's the reason why I help people.

Speaker 5 (01:58:43):
Oh, thank you for this gentleman who like I appreciate
everybody who joined us tonight. And you know, you know
I wanted to hear our you know what our group
is taken and.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Can there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:57):
Look Brian, can there that she just showed us. Comment
when I showed the or video, you saw the back
of the guy's head. That was his head.

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
Okay, that was that was a great video. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate that. And I shame your time to tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
I mean you guys, we appreciate you. I mean, without guests,
we can't do a show. I mean, and you know
I say this all the time. But when I asked
somebody to come on the show and they say yes,
I'm like, why, I'm I'm no, I'm I'm surprised that

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anybody want to come on and talk with us. You know,
we're still new at it, and and I'm like, it
means a lot to me, is what I'm trying to say.
When when somebody says, yes, Oh, you.

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
Guys ask awesome questions, I mean, really really cool. I
mean it's I wouldn't have thought that you're just new.
I thought you guys had been around for a while.
Really induct yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
And this is episode fifteen or sixteen here on I'm told,
but I think we've got maybe six years seventy on
the other Squatch and dollar on YouTube that you can
go back and watch me with my green wall behind
me and and this, and you know, it's just struggling
with everything. So it's been a fun ride.

Speaker 5 (02:00:09):
Yeah, but I do. I do thank everybody, and I'm
glad that I didn't make a foo out of myself.

Speaker 8 (02:00:14):
Oh no, you did great. We appreciate you coming.

Speaker 7 (02:00:17):
On here with us.

Speaker 4 (02:00:18):
So and thanks to the lovely no Hillary.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
We don't get much sunshine down here. We really don't
we really.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
Get it so and then it's all, yeah, well, one
thing I noticed that we're in a really hilly spot
where we're not in the mountains. But one thing I
noticed in the hollers we have hollers. It gets dark
about two hours earlier in some places. You know what
I mean. It's like the sun goes down. It's like
three o'clock and it's dark, and you know, possum trot like,

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how does that work? But anyway, thank you Brian, and
thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
Thank you miss Brian for helping us out and getting
it going. She's in there hiding. Thank you, Sophia, appreciate you.
Thank you everybody. Uh, the chats always awesome. People that
will listen on Spotify and other other platforms tomorrow. Thank
y'all for listening. Next Thursday, we're not gonna do a

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show because obviously it's Thanksgiving, but I got permission to
do the Wednesday time slot and we're gonna do just
a laid back Thanksgiving show. We're gonna have a lot
of the untold Ready with Dogs gonna be on for
a while. Chris roan Hart Barnaby is gonna check in, Uh,
the big rag Goo. Jeff's gonna step and we're just

(02:01:36):
gonna do a relaxed and maybe tell some either fun
or scary stories that's happened to us. And we just
appreciate all of you gives us, gives us something to
do and people to talk to. And we feel we
say this, it's not being cheesy. We feel like y'all family,
and now Brian's in their family, so yep, yeah, all right, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
It could be the Adams family here though.

Speaker 8 (02:01:59):
I don't want to coffee right. That was single and
that would work.

Speaker 5 (02:02:03):
We would have it work again, you know. Thanks, Thanks
you guys, and thanks everyone listening to spend time with us,
and happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (02:02:12):
Everybody, and tonight google Brian seeks and read everything and watch.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Everything out there. Yeah, the names out there. I'm surprised.
I've googled. We've all googled ourselves, and uh there's there's
more out there than you think.

Speaker 8 (02:02:26):
So oh yeah, shocks. She doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
At our internet. It's amazing. All right, love y'all, be good, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:02:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:02:38):
This is Jeremiah Byron from Big Foot Society and you're
listening to squatch and holler so get ready because it's
a good time.