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November 27, 2025 • 126 mins
The URN crew meet up to tell stories and give thanks.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Squatching Holler.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
In the midst where the trees lean love.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Squatching Hollers got a tail.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
The show wisps.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Creep like a creature, spain out.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Every shadows got a secret to grow?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Monsters rise? Where the stories are told?

Speaker 5 (00:46):
Squatching Hollow where the legends are born?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Are they gone?

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Who can say?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
In the hollow of the truth, you just slips with.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Huge footprints, fade where the creek runs them a lantern sways.
Let the search beak in rustling leaves, But there's no
one near?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is it the wind or the beast? You fear? Every
goes a question. Every russell's a clue.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Spatching Holly's got its eye on you.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Monsters. Those of the stories are told?

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Swatching How where the legends are born? Are they?

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Are they gone?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
You can see.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You are not say?

Speaker 4 (01:59):
And now you're Squatching Holler.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers and Ashley Rammers remembers this
podcast can be downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found. And
now the show.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Alrighty, we're live. How y'all doing? Everybody in chat? We're
doing a little doing something a little different tonight. We're
gonna have a lot of the Untold Radio Network host
on and get to know them a little bit. Amanda
and Ashley, they're taking a break, Hemus, Diane Lee Warner Oracle.

(02:43):
We got people coming in in the back. I want
to explain something to a lot of people. I didn't
realize that some of the some of them don't know
how this works. We had our old show Squatch and
Holler on YouTube and we moved over to Told Radio Network.
Now Untold Radio Network, of course is it's Doug a

(03:05):
high checks thing and he's gathered people together to have
different shows, and all of us have different time slots
and you can go watch these shows, uh live in
their time slots, listen to all of us on your
social media platforms or or podcast platforms. And but we

(03:27):
also do the lives on the set night and if
we have pictures or video or stuff to show, you
can see that. And I know a lot of you
know this, but some people didn't. So you can go
to Untold Radio Network on YouTube and you know, become

(03:47):
a member or join or whatever, and you can be
in the live chat, so you know the people that
will be listening to this later. I thought I'd just
throw that out there. There are tons of shows like
you can go back you if something's live last week,
it's still there. You can go and watch. We have

(04:09):
mister Barnaby Jones and Jeff Perella and Doug high Check
coming on, Chris froyn Hart, maybe Doctor Dean, So we're
gonna heyleen. Yeah, happy Thanksgiving everybody that's This is kind
of going to be relaxed and fun show. And when
Walker right, it's kind of confusing, but I'm here, hello everyone,

(04:30):
Thank you for being here. And you know, we have
to realize, like even with the subject of bigfoot or paranormal,
we have new people coming in all the time, so
they may not know how this works. So I thought
we would explain that. And we're gonna bring in mister
Barnaby Jones and the Bigger I go I think they
call it.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, that's how you doing.

Speaker 8 (04:54):
How's it going, guys doing good?

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Y'all? Thank y'all for showing up. I just you know,
I thought this would be a great thing for everybody
to get to know some of us and some of
us get to know each other. You know, I haven't
talked to Barnaby before I watch a show when I
can and Barnaby. Can you tell everybody you have two shows? Actually?
Can you give them your time slots and what the
shows are.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
Yeah, I am live every Monday on noon Central Time,
and I do Monsters on the Edge Oops this one,
and we do all things cryptied and creature wise on
that one. All my guests are Cryptid related usually. And
then on Thursdays, I also do the Paranormal Spectrum and

(05:39):
that is also at noon live Central Time, and that
one is everything from UFOs, Metaphysical, Paranormal, any any bizarre, weird,
strange stuff on that one. So we're gonna be live
tomorrow on Thanksgiving. I have my mom coming on again.
We're broadcasting from her living room and making her do

(06:02):
the show because she's also a member of my team
Cryptid's Anomalies in the Paranormal Society, so she goes up
searches with me and my team and stuff. So that's
so cool.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
And you know, people, uh, it makes a difference when
you have a support group close to you, It makes
it tough. I have some friends that you know, they've
had weird things happened all their life and they there
to continue to try to figure out things. And you know,
their whole family. They don't care, they don't they don't
want to hear about it. It makes it tough. So
that's a great I love hearing that the husband and

(06:35):
wife teams the you know, my mom, she sends me
stuff all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like did you see this?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Listen? Look at the comments and it'd be something that
we've talked about before. But uh, yeah, it's and y'all.
The good thing about Barnaby his shows are probably around
your lunch hours, if you're at work or whatever, tune in,
give him a listen, you know. And uh, and if
you can't finish it, finish it up later. It's I try.

(07:01):
I try to support everybody and watch and and not
only it's not it's and Jeff, you know, you know
I see you in chat and stuff. It's not the
fact you're you're wanting to support, but you actually you
can learn things, you can eat, you can learn from
other guests, and it's always good to have different h

(07:21):
viewpoints on all these and and so Doug makes you
do yours on Wednesday night usually, well.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Our you know, our show was Wednesday night for a
long time, and we had to move it to Sundays
because my new job. I just I just can't get
I can't get home. I just got home like ten
minutes ago, so I went to have enough time to
uh do all the show prep. So for now we're
doing the Sundays. When I get a things are going

(07:50):
to hopefully change before too long with my job that
I can have Wednesdays free against we can go back
to Wednesdays, but for now it's on Sundays, and it's
been going great. The audience has followed us and Roger
it's really it's a good idea to kind of give
an explanation like you did too, just how things work.
Because yeah, you can watch live, you can watch it
later either way you can. I mean my mom watched it,

(08:11):
like usually our show gets kind of long, so she'll
watch it over three nights sometimes. But as as as
Roger said, man, we love people participating in the chat.
Just as long as you're logged into YouTube, Facebook, wherever
you're it's free, you please join in the chat. It's fun,
it's it's a great conversation all of us, all of

(08:34):
us hosts are great at We try really hard to
make people feel welcome and you know, treat people's stories
with respect. So I think a lot of people are
nervous about that, and they really shouldn't because we love
to talk about it. So yeah, I like that you
explain that, Roger. That's that's what we do. We love it.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Well, what happened this week was somebody sent me in
said O messenger and said, man, I really miss'll shows
you and Amanda. We watched them and we hate that
you're not doing them anymore. I'm like, whoa, wait a minute.
We're like fifteen episodes and I had to explain what
was going on, and it hit me. I'm like, wait

(09:16):
a minute. Not we assume sometimes that everybody understands. And
it's like, if you wanted right now to start and
scroll back to the beginning of You Untold Radio, you
could watch twenty four hours a day for years.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
There's a lifetime of content for sure.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah. And it's the different the different types of guests
is that's the amazing thing. And by the way, thank you,
Gary Spikes. You're the best moderator on Internet right there.
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
One of the things I was going to say is,
you know a lot of people that I think listen
to the show. We get a lot more on podcasts
platforms than on YouTube. Yeah, I don't know about your show.
I know Doug shows a lot of pictures and videos
and stuff is and you know, I think it's important too,
if you're just listening to this on a podcast, to
go check out the video version as well, because there's

(10:14):
so much that you're missing, you know, with the content
of things that are being shown and vice versa. If
you can't watch it on YouTube, you know, maybe letter
by No, we are available on all the podcast platforms.
You know, some people might not know that, so absolutely.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, we actually do. I think the majority of
people are listening versus watching, But yeah, go our show
has a lot of video and we do our best
to try to describe what we're showing. But if you
just want to listen, that's great too. I appreciate, appreciate everybody.
It's fun watching everyone else's shows too, because you see
a lot of the same names pop up in chat.

(10:48):
We just got. Our audience is spectacular, just great people.
They're loyal fans. They provide great questions for the guests,
and yeah, I just love to have more people participate.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
It's great and that's that's something I never expected when
we started, I had my regular green wall behind men
and bad mic and it grew a little bit here
and there, and some of the same people started coming
back word of mouth. And man, I've met a lot
of these people that are close to me and we've

(11:19):
become like families. And we say that, but listen, if
you have had strange things happened in your lifetime and
you don't know what's going on, or maybe you do
and you want to be around like minded people, come
check out Alive and talk to these people. Uh, they
they're they're here for a reason also, and we we
have great moderators like Ms Diane and Gary and there's

(11:42):
plenty more that if somebody comes in acting like a jerk,
it doesn't last long. We're not going to allow people
to know that.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
And that's that's one of the things I asked Doug.
I said, Look, you know what, I have people that
I blocked on mine for good reason. What if what
if they show up? I give people chances if they
show up at right you know, and we don't have
we don't have much of that.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, it's pretty rare.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
It is, and I think because a lot of us, Uh,
the host we're confident we don't. We've we've gotten past
the point of, you know, if somebody is ridiculing, I'm
just I laugh back at them. So yeah, I mean
it's not It doesn't bother me. But but yeah, we
miss uh Lee Lee Warner, people with the same interest
who support each other. And you know, I could say that,

(12:32):
I could say that and and people could hear me
say that. But that's something we feel we do. It's
I get to missing Chat sometimes if it hadn't.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
We're doing a recorded show because looking over at Chat,
there's no comments like, oh man, that's that's because I'm
not lying, And yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Weird just being a guest. This is great. I don't
have to do anything relaxing. Yeah, it's great. I'm so preocupied,
you know, getting clips ready and whatnot, so a lot
of times I can't focus as much on the actual show.
This is great. I'm just focusing on you guys. I've
got everybody.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Anything else is We're glad you're here and we have people.
Uh they'll be like, oh, I can tell shows that
don't pay attention to Chat. They don't realize like when
you're doing the show, Uh, you have a lot of
things going on, right, you have to you have to
think three questions ahead of time, and then then some
eight then somebody else say something and it changes the

(13:32):
direction of the whole show, which is fine.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, absolutely, it's fine. That's that's a that's preferred. It's
that's I mean, we want to deliver content that people
want to watch. That's that's the whole point. If we'll
take the conversation wherever you want to go. And I
also should say too, if if if you have a
story to share, reach out to whoever one of us
you like, reach out to us, you could probably be
a guest on the show. I don't know about you, guys.

(13:56):
My favorite shows have been I don't want to mention
anybody's names. I want tombars anybody. But there's been shows
where people have told their story for the first time
and you can just tell and I'm sure I know
you guys have all had that. Just the emotion the
catharsis the release of just getting that story out with
the kind and friendly, respectful audience. Right, those have been

(14:19):
my favorite shows. I've had people tell stories that you
could just tell. This has been eating at them for
years and they tell their story and people kind of
understand it, give some feedback, and you can just tell
just this huge weight lifted off their shoulders. That's Those
are my favorite shows. I love when that happens. And
you can be part of that. Absolutely. If anybody has
a great story to tell, reach out to any one

(14:39):
of us, and I'm sure we get you on as
a guest. It'd be great.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, I agree that I love, I love. I started
this to learn because of my experiences in the past,
and it's kind of I was that person. I hadn't
told my story. A few people around here knew it
close family, and then one day I didn't know anything
about podcasts. Now they we were listening to podcast at work.

(15:05):
They let us and somebody shared the earbud with me,
and this is cool. Well, on the way home, I'm like,
I wonder if they have bigfoot. So that one question
led us to hear and but I was that person
and this this guy was on the show, he was
going to start one. He gave his contact info out
and it's I thought it's time to get this off

(15:29):
my back, right Yeah, And I'm telling you it was
like that. We say this all the time, but it
was like therapy. It was. It felt so good. Yeah,
once once you let it go and and you're like, Okay,
now the cat's out of the bag. So I'm officially
the crazy guy on the street. So now they know
why there's a bigfoot cut out on the fence.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, it's cool too. I'm finding more and more people
that again, like you said, just the comfort and having
people that you know were kind of on the same page.
But I've had people people that I that I know
but don't know that well, like people from high school
or whatever, people like friends on Facebook that I don't
know that well have reached out. And there are people

(16:12):
I had no idea had any interest in this kind
of stuff, but they've reached out to me and just
like yeah, I'm a fan of the show and I'm like, wow,
that's great. You know, and people I never would have
thought of that are picking up My mom and dad
like watching it, which kind of amazes me. I'm not
sure they're either, they're probably gonna watch this tomorrow, so hi,
mom and dad. But yeah, it's it's it's just it's

(16:34):
just so cool. It's it's a great feeling being around
people that are just kind of like minded and except
that we're all a little bit off.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Well, you know it, it definitely makes you feel less crazy. Yeah,
and and I think you know when there was a
comment says, Barnaby does it so you can talk to
people he always wanted to talk to now, Barnaby And
I was on that side of it. You're with Doug,
and Doug knows everybody, so everybody. It may not seem

(17:06):
as important or fun because that's just his circle. But
to me, I'm not speaking for Barnaby, but I assume
if I get to speak to somebody that I watched
on YouTube or some adult shows for twenty years, oh yeah,
I love talking to him.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh yeah, I'm the same. I've had guessed that was
a little bit starstruck and Doug. And Doug does know everyone, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Everybody, everybody. So to Je's point, Sunday at church, I
would I was in the restroom, I guess. We got
to the vehicle after service and Heather's like, you know,
so and so came up and said she was in
the doctor's office and two people were talking about bigfoot.
An older man and said that he had seen a

(17:52):
multiple bigfoot while hunting recently, and said he was really
adamant about And this lady at church watches the show
and I didn't know it, so she came up to
tell Heather. Now, unfortunately we don't know what county it was.
But when you got people starting to come up publicly locally,
it's kind of a shock, but it's fun.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
I go to convengeons all over the US and stuff
with caps and that, and you know, we've been doing
that since twenty nineteen, my team and research and all that,
and you'd be surprised how many people have never seen caps,
but they know me from this show. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
I watch your show. Oh yeah, which is your favorite episode? Oh?
I listened to the podcast. I'm like, no, wait a minute,

(18:35):
I see this big banner back here says caps, Like
you don't watch that? No, No, I never heard of that. Yeah,
well my shirt every week.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, we you know, we take it for That's why
I want to do this show. We take it for
granted that everybody knows what we know. It's like some
people get the watch or listen, you know, once or
twice a month maybe, and they just they don't hear everything.
Here's you wonder right here, mister Veras. Uh, that guy

(19:05):
asked questions that I can't even read sometimes he's.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, he was. He was a great Vic was a
great guest.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Yes sir.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
And and uh he comes up with great questions in
chat too. He's a very valuable member of our audience.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
And we love you your yes, sir.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Now, also to the people that ask questions, and if
you've got to what you feel like maybe a dumb question,
put it out there, because what I do if we're
if we're all in a group, we're all on a
round table and we're trying to figure out something, I'm
the one that's gonna say something stupid and make everybody
laugh to kind of break the tension. And it may

(19:41):
give somebody an idea, you know or whatever. But uh, man,
who's that who's that thug that just come into the
into the mix? Here?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Chris Ryan Hart?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Hey everybody, how are you welcome in?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Good good to see you.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, but happy early Thanksgiving to all.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Thank you, thank you, and mister Chris, give us your
time slot in your show if you would. And that way,
the people listening, like Barnaby said, they only listen on
Spotify or whatever, they'll they'll know where to see you live,
all right.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I am on Tuesday nights at eight pm Eastern, and
I'm real American monsters.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Right, real American monsters, and y'all. Chris and I got
to hang out for a little while at some pretty
crazy places here a few months ago, and I liked
being around them because getting to hear the things they
were trying. And Chris, I'm kind of in the middle,
and Chris is trying a lot of things that I love,

(20:49):
like with the I guess the what do you call it,
the mega hurts the frequencies. There you go. I pulled
a Barnaby. No, I'm kidding, Barnaby did that? And and
some of us are getting old, y'all, so if we
forget a word, you know, hey, it's for you, right. So,
But yeah, I had fun, you know, with Adam and

(21:11):
just listening to you guys talk about some of your
techniques that you're trying and and I feel like that
was a better trip for me. It was only what
an hour and a half from my house. I went down.
I love spending time with you guys.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
It took me like three weeks to rehab from that trip.
That was a lot not to get in in one
one full week. I mean we were all over Alabama,
so meaning lots of folks. So yeah, the frequency thing.
We're definitely an Adam Colt is definitely a whiz at
all that stuff. Uh yeah, yeah, Jeff knows Adam. Well, yeah,

(21:51):
Adams a lot of fun too.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
You know Adam, Adam doesn't lived Doug and Adam and
I all the three of us lived pretty close together.
So I see Adam paramount. Yeah, he's he's a really
really smart guy, and he's he knows that equipment.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Well yeah, yeah, he's. The thing I like is most
people that we come in contact with, we have a
sense of humors. So we take this stuff seriously, but
we can cut up. You know, Jeff and I we're
close to the same age, right.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, I'm fifty three and I'm fifty four.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Yeah, so you know he's got he's got some classic
cars or at least one, and.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I have two old cars or three old cars and
three real motorcycles. Yes, I've been a gear head my
whole life.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
I love that stuff and so it's not all about
Bigfoot or whatever, but but it is a big part
of our life and and the Barnaby, the ghost, the
ghost things have you noticed? Like I have people that
are you know, they'll say a hat or whatever, Now Bigfoot,
what do you yeah? I usually hit him with this.
I was, oh, yeah, well I don't make a big

(22:54):
deal out of it. Then I hit him with you
ever lived in a haunted house? And like eighty percent
of the people, And you get them to talking about that,
and then you can have a conversation about the weird
you know, you get them talking about it, and and
so many people have had weird stuff happen in their life.
And it's to me. If I'm watching Barnaby Show, Chris Show,

(23:15):
and I hear somebody talk about a personal experience, I
don't care how little or how major it is. I
love it. I love listening to the stories.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
And we travel. My whole back of my car is
all bumper stickers, and it has the Big Caps logo
on the back and stuff, and then the trailer is
all decked out in our logo and stuff. And then
the whole back door is all stickers of everything from
places we've been like Gettysburg and all the haunted locations,
and then all the Bigfoot stuff in that and we
get stopped at gas stations. We've had people follow us

(23:49):
into Walmart in other states to ask us questions or
talk to us and stuff when we're on the road.
And that's why we do it because it shows you,
you know, like these weird people that have all this
stuff on their cars are they're open to having these
conversations and talking about that. And you tell them they
say like, oh, you know, you believe in that big
Foot stuff. That's a bunch of crap, you know, but

(24:10):
this one time I saw this ghost, you know, or
I saw ufo. Okay, well you believe in that or
the other side is all there's no such thing as ghosts.
But I saw this upbraid bear walking in the woods
one day. You know, he was really big and yeah,
so you get all types of that stuff, and so
it's really interesting.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
And I know that what's fun about this is we
have all of us for kind of from different regions.
And Christ and I have talked. He caught some amazing audio.
I had something from a couple of years back, and
it is kind of similar, and then you kind of
can compare notes about the different regional stuff with these

(24:49):
with the Bigfoot. But the ghost stuff that's like that
that scares me. I've had I've had things happen. We
were at the Arlington Hotel in Hot Springs, Arkansas, on
the seventh floor. Oh my god, it was it was active.
Didn't go there for that, you know, But I've been
in places and I'm kind of sensitive. I didn't know

(25:09):
what it was for a long time, but I'm kind
of sensitive to different energies. And and because of Chris Reinhard,
I care, I care a courts run in my pocket now.
I don't know what it is for, but it makes
me feel better. But Chris, what are you? What are
you doing for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Nothing? Go in to the wife's mother's house and her
sister's house actually this year and just a little good
together and then coming home and taking a nap.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Probably the Detroit line up, that's what stretch pants, all that,
the whole Oh yeah, get the meats wet.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm definitely getting into the into the paranormal side of
all this. No, I am hooked. I'm actually going with
al Santa Riga and the December sixth to do a
house in New York he's been to before and they
got some crazy recordings going on right now. I'm gonna
play it next Tuesday when I have David Strader on
the show. And now we're actually going to go there

(26:11):
for my very first paranormal investigator that we're gonna Then
we're going to to bless the home and all that
when we're all done, because Al does all that stuff too.
So but this crazy stuff's going on. It's got a
silver war graveyard next to it, and it's really I'm
hooked on all this paranormal stuff. And I think the

(26:33):
tools that they use for all this paranormal stuff we
can use for Sasquatch research because I just think the
full spectrum cameras are going to come in real handy
out in the out in the forest for the Sasquatch.
I just think that we're gonna be able.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
To pick up I think you're onto something. Have y'all noticed, Barnaby, Chris, Jeff,
since the solar storms and all of that, the geomagnetics.
Have y'all noticed tick and in activity in your areas
or anything you've done, If there's anybody have any answers

(27:10):
to that, I mean, because I have. I've I felt
this may be just me, But during those most intense days.
This is the first time this has ever happened. I
felt like energy was going through my veins just like
it at times. It was real short, thank god. But
I'm like, is this something that's coming from that or

(27:31):
or what is it? Have y'all had anything happened or
any you know, like any people call you about more
orbs than normal or anything.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
It seems like my mediums and stuff on the team
say everything, you know, like usually after Halloween stuff starts
to kind of taper down, when the veil strengthens again
or whatever. But they've they've been talking about things aren't
quieting down, and that would make sense with the you know,
the geomagnetic spectrum and stuff hitting us and that It's
really interesting because everyone's all excited about the Northern lights

(28:02):
and seeing them and stuff, and if you actually know
what that means, the stronger that gets, the more likely
all of our technology is going to go could put. So, yeah,
cheer on those northern lights and and your entire computer
is going to go fried. So so it's a horse
a piece there.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
But the biggest thing I've noticed is go ahead.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Oh, I was just gonna say on our team when
we go out to investigate these places. You know, you're
talking about using paranormal equipment for bigfooting and stuff like that.
When we get a report, we'll go out and investigate
the area. We won't go you know, if somebody says,
oh I saw a bigfoot out there, we'll go out
there and look at the area for UFO, bigfoot, paranormal whatever.

(28:44):
Because when you put those blinders on of trying to
go in to investigate a certain topic you're getting you're
getting blinded to to miss all this other stuff that's
going on. So we have we have mediums on my team,
we have paranormal on my team, we have cryptids on
our team, you know. So we go out in these
areas as a group to investigate our own topics, and

(29:06):
it allows us to bring all that stuff in and
look at it from all angles, so we hopefully don't
miss some of the other things that people do when
they're just looking for these certain signs or certain evidence.
So that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well, go ahead, Well I'm just going to say the
biggest thing I've noticed is rate. I'm kind of a
radio nerd shortwave an AM radio, and yeah, you can
just tell when there's increased you know, geomanetic storms and
solar activity. The radio reception is affected bad, so it's
hard to get a late you know, I used to.

(29:42):
It's not nearly as good as it was twenty thirty
years ago. They're just not as much content out there.
But I still like trying to find late night AM
and late night shortwave stuff, and it's the reception has
been terrible. I miss Art Bell. I think we all
miss right. The best Oh man cha listen to Art
Bell late at night was that was just loved. That

(30:04):
was years.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I know. I got a quick story. I was listening
to one of his shows and we were about to
go dove hunting, and I was the first one there.
And I'm listening to art Bell and I'm pitched back
pitch dark and sitting in my truck and I didn't
see this guy pull up. I don't know how he
got there, but I turned there talking about aliens and

(30:27):
I'm in the middle of nowhere. I turn and look
and this guy is looking in my window, my truck window,
and I about died right there on the spot. I'm like,
how did you get here? But I was already in
now I've gotten past that point because I did a
like I faced my fears type thing. I was so
scared of ghosts growing up in a haunted house that

(30:48):
even the Ghost Adventures scared me, even though I knew
it was just TV. So I made myself sit down
one day and do a marathon and just keep my
eyes on the TV. And I kind of got over it.
But what I like about this group, y'all, that that
that Dougs put together, just what Barnaby was saying, Chris,

(31:09):
Jeff Doug, A lot a lot of us get out
and do this stuff. We we research it when we can.
We we try to figure out, Okay, what's the new
thing we can do. Chris is on top of that too.
I feel like we were at one spot where we
got the ORB video this summer and a guy had

(31:33):
an mL reader and he'said, hey, let me let me
check that first, and it was double what his baseline
was at his area. And I'm me, I'm like, what
does that mean?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
He's a head?

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I have never seen it, just because we went everywhere
there was court Chris, there was quarts all over the ground.
You you've probably been there now. Down at Hollands, there
was courts all over the ground. It's on the thirty
third pair of lel Oh. You know, it's a lot
of weird stuff going on, but uh, I was glad
that we had those readings to go along with the
other weirdness too. It just confirms something. I don't know what.

(32:10):
Something's going on at that place.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Things are going hey where I agree with you the
actually the Earth's frequency is actually going crazy right now.
It's like vibrating at a higher frequency than normal. It's
usually I think it's what seven point at seven point
eight three? Is that?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
What it usually? The Earth's frequency is a registering that
right now is going haywire. Ever since that at that
what do they call it? Three one out lists, I
don't even know the property. Ever, since that thing's going
after the Earth, the earth frequency has been picking up,
so it's resonating that more. I don't know. I'm not
two into the science terms, you know, I'm I'm a guy,

(32:51):
I'm not a college grad, but uh, something's going on.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
Well, since you brought it up, what what what some
of y'all's I don't know. I know I read different things,
but anybody have an idea what it could be?

Speaker 8 (33:10):
There's so much misinformation and stories and stuff that you
really got to sift through when you're looking at the
three eye atlass stuff. And the last thing I saw
was it's split into three. And I haven't checked to
see if that's actually legitimate or not. But I don't
know where that came from. But that was what I

(33:31):
saw on Facebook the other day, and just siphoning off
of the sun that was legitimate Supposedly, instead of like
the sun pulling stuff away from it, it's actually pulling
out of the sun. It got brighter, it changed colors,
it's changing direction that it shouldn't. This is all like

(33:53):
legitimate stuff that NASA or other sciences said that it
has done.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
So what do y'all think about? I blame it on
ancient aliens the show that kind of desensitized us. But
you know, the government comes out and you hear it's like, oh, yeah,
we have we have biological material, we have this, we
have that, and it's crickets from ye everybody. So is

(34:21):
it the fact that we're all worried about where the
next stator chips coming from? Or is it we're focused
on other things? I felt like that would be a
whole lot bigger deal than what it was. Well.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I think part of it too is we're just overwhelmed
with information. It's just how do you pick what to
pay attention to? And number one, you don't trust any
I don't trust any source of I mean, I don't
trust any any broadcast whatsoever, or any news source. But
it's just so much information. How do you Yeah, I
think you're just desensitized to it. I really do.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
I do a whole presentation at like libraries and stuff
on just catching people up on the government and all
the congressional hearings and stuff. And there's so much information
there that is just like jaw dropping that these people
are coming forward and talking about and there's, like you said,
just crickets.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
About it, no interest.

Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeah, all the information of the stuff that they have
and seen and experience, and it's getting weirder and weirder.
Like it started out just oh we saw a ship
and this, and then the the one helicopter pilot came
forward and said that it made contact mentally with him
the object that he was hauling, and he got this
overwhelming feeling of like just a woman's presence, and it

(35:40):
I mean, there's just so much weird stuff going on.
With it, that's supposedly legit and one hundred percent. You
know these people talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So the dimensional travel is real. They came out and
said it yeah. And then the question was asked can
humans do it? And they're like, no, we can't, and
why because our bodies can't take that. They can't go
through the gates or whatever they're doing. And again, Barnaby,
you're right, crickets, nobody's even rendering that. They say they
walk among us. Nobody's even nobody even nobody even thinking

(36:09):
about its crickets. Again, it's crazy. And they came out
and told this point blank that that's real, and they're
there and nobody cares. They They rather get a double
cheeburger for a dollar ninety nine and really know what's
going on.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
I blame people like Doug Hotschheit with those TV shows.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
It's Doug. Obviously, it's Doug's fault. Dogs blame Doug.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Good Time and Doug.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Hey, everybody, Jeff Hey, Chris he Barnaby and Roger. I
heard the word stupid earlier and I thought you guys
were talking about me.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
So I thought to myself, we forgot you were everywhere Doug.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
And you know, I was. I was listening to you
while I was driving. It's bad.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
That's bad.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, that's right. Oh wait a minute, you were traveling
in that snow.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Well, no, I'm talking. I was just driving now.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Oh yeah, it was pretty nasty. I just got home,
like I got home about yeah, about forty minutes ago. Yeah,
it's it's it's not. It's not pleasant outside in Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
It's not snowing too much here a little bit, but
it's windy as all get up, like it's just bound
in my house out here.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So see, I've got something I was going to mention
to all you guys. I'm curious. I don't even think
I've talked to Jeff about this. Have you any of
you guys researched this. It's called the Discovery. It's all
over YouTube, it's all over, like I don't know, all
over anyhow. It's about people that are taking d MT

(37:47):
on purpose together and then they shine a laser that's
diffracted and they see a code and depending where you
shine the flashlight, it shows. In other words, the code
is a fixed object. It doesn't move, It has parallax.
You can look up, you can get really close to it,

(38:09):
you know, and so it has object properties. And I
just wondered if you guys had heard about this.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
I've heard, I saw a video.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
If it's the same thing where they were shining the lasers. Yeah,
the wall on the wall, and if they look at
it at a certain angle, it's a lot of coating
and stuff and you can see kind of past it.
And they said, if the laser moves, it changes.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, no, it doesn't change. Think of it as shining
in a flashlight into a different area. It lights up
the code. So in other words, if they go down
there's one code, they move it up there's a different code,
and it's fixed. It's permanent, doesn't change, it doesn't move,
it doesn't scroll, and they can go You can go
within an inch of it, and you can look at

(38:57):
it and study it. You can see it's three dimensional
and it looks like there's like a hole in the wall.
It's quite interesting.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Because maybe we are living in the matrix right exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
And what's the any what's so interesting is it tells
us that maybe the things people have been reporting using
TMT is another dimension. It's a real, you know, real
dimension that people go into. And I've never done DMT.
You don't know anything about it, but it's actually do

(39:32):
you know this hallucinogen is in every vegetable you eat,
everything you eat, if it's green, it has DMT in it.
But our bodies have a way of neutralizing it. And
so really what they're doing is taking a neutralizer. If
that makes sense. You're not so you're eating those. If

(39:52):
you had a salad date, you ate the drug, you
ate tons of it. Like there's enough hallucinogen in a
stick is salary to kill you. Wow, And so like
when they drink ayahuasca, that's basically basically neutralizing there de
neutralizing the effect. I just wonder that was one of

(40:14):
the most interesting things I've ever heard.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
I actually watched I believe I watched that video twice
and one comment said, you know, she she watched it,
or they watched it and didn't quite understand it. I
kind of knew what it was talking about. I've talked
to a couple of people that have done the same
thing with the mushrooms. I've never done anything like that,
but they're talking about the the weirdness of the city,

(40:39):
of the of the experience, you know, and it doesn't
make me want to do it. But it is. I
am curious about it. So if Doug, if you want
to do mushrooms.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And yeah, exactly no. But you know what's the most interesting.
They can put eight people in a room and they
all see the same thing exactly. So that's never happened
in history, so it maybe the biggest breakthrough in unlocking
other dimensions.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
Who's doing the study though, it's a.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Guy by the name of He invented the process. His
name is Goalie uh Goler Goler g O l e R.
Very few scientists have any interest in it, like there's
been no interest at all, kind of like the big
Foot mystery. They don't give it crap. You could have

(41:29):
twenty big woods in your backyard and they go.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
No, not.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
So he hasn't. He's had a hard time finding scientists
to even try it, to even look. But other other
journal many journalists have and they all reporting the same thing,
like it's real. It's not a it's not part of
the hallucination. It's as real as you know anything on

(41:54):
your desk. So there you go.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, I'm wasn't familiar with that. I'm looking to it.
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, just look up the discovery and then you
can watch a ton of different interviews and apparently there's
a new doc coming out of film on it. So anyhow,
you guys were talking about three I Atlas, Yeah, Chris,
so we've we've talked a little bit, and I know

(42:21):
that all the rest of y'all talk about this, but.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
I'm I'm wondering how all of this could be connected,
like all these different subjects we talk about, is it
is it? Is it something that each individual is capable
of seeing, or something that's happened to them, or is it?
You know, that's my big question. I'm like, why why
of the stuff keep happening to me? And you're talking

(42:46):
about a glitch and of matrix and you know that
could be that could be like what deja vu might be.
You know, I've had that happen so many times, and
it's it's scary. But the more you talk about it
all these subjects, the less scary it gets. And and
then you're like, what's going on? What's really going on?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
And well, you know, I've just I've had so many
experiences where there's like a glitch in time over and
over and over. I mean it happens like once a month,
and these glitches are quite real. Like an example, we're
downstairs playing ping pong with my daughter and we hear
event coming home. Here the garage open up. She comes in,

(43:28):
we hear, you know, making dinner pots and pansilverware, and
then I'll yell up and go, uh, you know, hello
or whatever, and there's no answer. It's Event from another time.
She's not really there.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
I had a years ago. I was I was old
enough to drive. I was cleaning the back of our
store and I had the door open going out outside
my dad's truck, and this white fluffy dog come walking in,
and I thought, oh, somebody's dog. You know, we're on interstate.
We had to store on an interstate. They're gonna they're
gonna leave without him. He went in this room where

(44:07):
there's no exit, and of course I'm being cautious, so
I'm like, come on, puppy, come on, puppy, there's no dog.
I saw him playing a day going to that room
and there's no exit.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
That's exactly I'm just curious. Barnaby, have you experienced like
any glitches like that time glitches?

Speaker 8 (44:23):
Yeah, yeah, It's like a lot of my guests and
stuff talk about being more like a time slip where
you're not actually experiencing paranormal or ghosts, but you're seeing
through another dimension into either the past or the and
it's just kind of weird. But I've noticed a lot
of things like little dark shadows moving around lately, just
like out of the corner your eye, you'll see something

(44:44):
move and it's it's happening, you know, going back to
that geomagnetic situation and stuff, and more frequently, there's been
a lot of that in my life, of.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Seeing that that could be Jeff sneaking around here, could be.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Could I never know, Doug's throwing it away. It's really
dug in his cameras.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I guess. Some one time and we were talking about
residual hauntings, and then we started talking about the one
the one bigfoot track that's always found, you know, in
the middle of the field, there's one big So what
if that's a residual haunt What if so every ten
years that whatever makes that footprint walks on that same
spot and just that one time there was mud there

(45:26):
and left that print, and then ten years, then ten
years will go by again, and then nothing will ever
happen again. Now you know, there's another slip in time,
and that could be, you know, attributed to all that stuff.
It's it's going to this other side with Bigfoot. It
just opens up a whole different another ball game.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
And it doesn't make their heads explode.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, it's not enough that you already try you're on
the other side of it, and now you're on both
sides and it's just like, whoa, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Well, you know, a lot of y'all have been around
this a lot more than I have as far as
studying is. And I remember, you know, sometimes they're there,
maybe one line and a documentary that will stick with you.
I don't remember what it was, but they were. They
were at Gettysburg and the Paranormal crew and somebody said,
and I had no exposure this up right at that point, Well,

(46:17):
we think it could be the courts the memory, and
it could the residual haunting and and and replaying. And
I'm like, wait a minute. So then I start looking
into courts a little bit, and I'm like, oh my god.
I didn't realize at the time how much we use
it to store information. So, uh, you know, I don't
remember anything else about that documentary, and I don't know

(46:40):
who did it. I'm sorry if you know somebody you
know knows whose it was. But uh, that stuck with me.
And so then you go years later and you talk
to Chris and you talk to people about uh, these
different areas and the and the makeup of it. It
it it kind of the courts. It keeps coming back
up for me and Doug, let me ask you this.

(47:02):
I read this. I think it. Quartz is neither a
solid nor a liquid. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
I would have no idea. I've experimented with uh pisio
quartz crystals, like for underwater microphones and for for making electricity.
Quartz is magical, I'm not I'm not really sure about
its its matter of state. But obviously it's a solid

(47:35):
and it would take immense heat to melt quartz, but
it could be. It's like glass. Glad you know your
your windows are always melting, they never stop moving. I
don't know a lot of people don't know that liquid. Yeah,
it's a liquid. And so if you go look at
an old old house that's three hundred years older than
a glass, you'll see the bottom of the glass is

(47:58):
getting thicker and thicker, Like it's thicker there and so
quartz is kind of like that, but we're talking maybe
a million years. But yeah, it's it's it's moving, but
very much much slower than glass.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
Quartz vibrates at a higher frequency, so the molecules aren't solid,
they're in a constant state exactly. It's it's that's what
you're kind of getting into as far as like it
not being a soluble liquid or I think it's just
constantly vibrating.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It's how magical. Every time we go to starter grill,
you know, you click the knob and it goes click
and it makes that spark. It's just a little piece
of quartz in there. I didn't know that, and that
lights your charcoal grill and or a quartz lighter.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Watcht Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Vibrates exactly, doesn't matter even
if the voltage changes, it still vibrates the exact same rate.
That's all. That's how watches work.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
I would have imagine Dar's ly. I would imagine like DARPA,
guys has read it does nothing. I'm sure they have
a whole department just working with quartz because it's magical.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Other exotic materials too. Who knows what they're working on.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Oh man, the percentage of what's underneath the ground at
all these sightings across America, I mean, paranormal to bigfoot,
I bet you an amount of money about ninety percent
of it has quarts underneath the ground or quartz veins
or aquifers that.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
There's there's a map you can get, Chris, and you
can just look at where the quartz deposits are. And
we have done that and looked in Yeah, they actually
coincide with a lot of the big butt onspots.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Interesting, just kind of I know one of my Native
American friends, he's not in here right now, but Kenny,
he's from South Alabama, and he they they said they're
medicine bags. They'll have, you know, usually some quartz in there.
And they were coming from Arkansas. It was him and
three friends and they're there was at least one medicine

(50:01):
bag in the car and they were about to cross
the Mississippi River and there was an explosion inside the
car and it ended up the quartz exploded inside that bag.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (50:13):
And I was wondering if it maybe y'are a lot
smarter than I am. Maybe the the energy off of
that river or the is it negative ions or whatever
it produces. I wonder if that could have caused that
quartz to explode.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I would imagine it could have. But you know, quarts,
like a lot of natural rocks, are under internal pressures
that can just explode. Have you guys ever had a
what's it the pirate? Ex pirate's class will explode just
sitting there in your you know, in your cupboard, did
all of a sudden, just for no reason. It'll just

(50:47):
explode and sit there and crunch and grind all on
its own as it's releasing it's internal.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Yeah, the stored energy in that in that court structure,
that's how the that's how the Prince drop, you know
is every familiar with the Prince Trooper drop. That's when
you make that drop of glass and cold water got
some crazy, really strong. Yeah, it'll stop a bullet, but
if you just break a tiny piece off the tail,
the whole thing will shatter. And that's whyse because it
has right when it when it cools, it stores an

(51:17):
enormous amount of kinetic energy in it, so as soon
as it cracks, it kind of explodes, and quartz kind
of does the same thing. There's in that in that
matrix of the crystal, there's stored tension that. Yeah, if
you do break it, it's going to release all that tension.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
So I mean there's no but yeah, it could be
some magical thing that happened. And I just I mean, really,
eight years old and you think a lot you're gonna
start it at a certain age, you're gonna start going
anything's possible.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Right.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Do you think the areas of these high courts and
stuff are active for like the creatures and phenomenon going there,
or do you think it's causing something in the humans
that are allowing us to see it.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, that's a good, good question, great question. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Now now Barnaby, I tee. I think these guys know,
I've told them. Uh we had we caught an orb
on video with a thermal and uh it was pretty crazy.
But after we get we started like going over what happened.
Just before that, we were at Holland's. Chris and I

(52:28):
went and gathered up some quarts off the ground and
it was pitch dark round midnight, and I started arcing
it to make cole fire, just to show them, and
then all this crazy stuff happened In the next twenty
five minutes or so thirty minutes, and you know, I
get back home to Tennessee and we're telling the story
and everything, I'm like, wait a minute, did I cause that?

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Or was that?

Speaker 6 (52:50):
You know, that's something curious to come see what was
going on. But that's a great question because I'm wondering,
you know, I've wondered if it kind of draws certain
things in maybe the energy or whatever. But that's a
good question. Maybe it opens something up in us to
where the things are there already, we're just seeing them.
That's a great point.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Well, you know, they spend so much money on you know,
they're trying to answer the question why is the weasel's
tails long? Which doesn't help anybody. Really, there's a lot
of money wasted in science, tons of it. I couldn't
begin to think of how much money as wasted here.
And many of the real mysteries they ignore because they're mysterious.

(53:31):
That's why they ignore them. You know, they worry, they
worry they can't answer them the questions.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
They can't make money off of.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
It exactly why they can't get a grant? Yeah, but
you would think they could, you know, you would think
I don't know of any people that applied for a
grant that wouldn't get it? Who's that doctors at Bob Pyle,
Who's who's the guy that we had on Jeff? That
movie is based on Robert Pile.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, The Dark Light.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
He applied for a scientific Google NYME grant just to
uh do this and study Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Study butterfly. The grant was a study butterflies, but he
made it into uh.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Did they make a movie about his life?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Great all that. Yeah, it's a great movie. He was
a great guest in his book is spectacular.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
But he actually no, he he put the Bigfoot histery
in there and his grant. Yeah, I think what you're
thinking about is the movie in real life?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Well no, he really was.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
He was, but when he put his grant in it
was to study the Bigfoot mystery. Ye. So but yeah, yow.
He was a really interesting guest.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Yeah, great guest, outstanding. I recommend his book, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (54:48):
You don't know what number of show that was, kidding,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
But if I could probably find it, just like Robert,
look up Robert Pile.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Pile the I'm told Networks it was.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
A great show. I could have talked to him all night.
Just a brilliant guy.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
But you know so, I just don't think any scientists
are applying for the grants. They're afraid to even apply.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
It couldn't just normal person apply for it. You got
to be a doctor.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
You have to. You're probably gonna have to be an
academic because you're gonna have to write a paper on it.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, you got a I know anybody could write a.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
All you gotta do then, Chris is assume the name
doctor Reinhardt.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
To make a diploma for you.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
And I get invited. Look because I did that research
on pregnant female black bears. It's hilarious. I get a
letter a week and inviting me to speak at a
guynecology conference. And they always call me doctor Doug. Every
letter doctor Doug, doctor doctor Douglas. I'm thinking, I think

(55:57):
I just could assume that identity.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I won't anybody.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Uh, who's gonna go for it? Oh, Dean's in the chat.
I don't know if you knew that.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
He Dean, we.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Want you in the show. I sent him a link
and messenger.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Come on, mister Dean.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
You're a link to get on the show as a messenger.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
James Cryptid pardon, I call him the James Bond of cryptis.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yes he is. He is definitely James Bond of crypto zoology.
And you all uphology. Did you know Dean? Okay, Dean
has a doctorate in your uphology? Really? Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Did you tell them I wanted to have him on
my show? Well, if you're listening, Dean, I want to
have you on my show. I've never told you.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Oh, you never asked me to.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I just talked you to what last week about it?
We've talked about the matrix stuff.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Remember Now that was in the wrong dimension, Chris. You
got to get in the right dimension.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, you got to catch him on a good day.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
When Yeah, and you know, he says, Okay, I'm gonna
pop on in a bit. How long are you going
to be on tonight?

Speaker 6 (57:19):
He's asking, however long you'll want to go?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
At least another five hours?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Yeah, we can alternate and take restroom breaks and stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So let's go back to Barnaby's questionnaire. I'm still thinking
about that one. Do you it is that the area
or do you think it is the person that brings
the multiple interactions? What do you guys really think about that?
I think it's a combo.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Well the first but the first thing, Chris, you're gonna think,
why is that? Why are those hotspots? Yeah? My guess
if you go to those hotspots, like I have their
beautiful areas that often and have a lot of boreal
force and uh, you know, just mixed forests on those
quartz areas. So there's a lot of forested area. Because

(58:11):
once again, where where are you gonna build? If you're
gonna start a city or build, you're gonna build on
a river. You're gonna build where it's flat, cheap to build.
They get into these rough, rocky areas or there's a
lot of quartz deposits, they just don't they don't build
there because it's too expensive. Yeah, there's cabins and stuff.

(58:32):
But so you it's just it's good habitat with these
quartz deposits are.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I know, I never thought of that. That's that's a
great answer.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
That's great habitat. And there's a lot of quartz up
at snow tons of it up there. Lots of Minnesota too, Yeah,
Northern Minnesota's really good, lots of big one up there.
So yeah, it's like, what what's the reason is it? Yeah,
but you do find quartz generally and more rugged area.

(59:01):
It's harder to build on. Let's put it that way.
If you don't build its wilderness.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Then you touch on the individual end of it. Now,
you know, it's a certain person can go to this
area and not experience anything, and then there's some person
that can go there six times in three weeks and
have multiple interactions just for some reason, right right, I
think that's the person's individual vibration or their vibration.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I don't know. I also think somebody, and you know,
it sounds weird, but I think somebody should start getting
the nationalities in the in the background, the ancestry of
the people that are seeing a bigfoot, because there could
be a pattern there that we don't know about that.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
I had a question, you know that, Chris asked, you
know why, why me? Why the ghosts, why the UFO,
why the bigfoot? You know whatever? And I started looking.
I did. I went ancestry. I went to twenty three
in me. I believe I have Anderthal DNA, I've got
O negative blood type, I've got all this stuff going
on that people say, are we And I've got like

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four or five of these things and I'm like, I
don't know what it means, but I started looking at
me individually. Also, I have Native American blood on both
sides of my family. I don't know, but I've always
felt a little different. And I can walk in the
house and maybe let's say ten people and two of
us can feel this negative energy and want to get

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out like right away, and other people are just oblivious
to it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I don't know it, yeah, but I just think it
would be really interesting to, you know, tell if you
could take every witness that's see in a big butt
and get into their ancestry and start charting them. It
would be really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
What you could probably, you know, do your blood. You know,
that'd probably be the easiest step right there, you know, yeah,
start asking that question. You had a big foot saying
what's your blood type?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
And then just blood could be anything, you know, let
me let me say.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Okay. So once I figured that out, I didn't know
what it meant. But we were in chat one night
and we had a lot of people and I said,
how many of y'all are you know, negative RH negative
or whatever. It was like guesstimating like eighty percent. Well,
it's it's kind of on the rare side anyway. But
yet we're all gathering together and some of them felt

(01:01:17):
left out. Well I don't have that. Well, you need
to figure out why you're attracted to us and this.
So I don't know what the answers are, but I'm
trying to figure out any connection at all. And listening
to some of y'all shows, I mean I come away
sometimes with a with a notepad listening to shows. Barnaby

(01:01:38):
and I was listening watching his show yesterday and a
great question popped up somebody that's in my region and
it's something simple, but you know, I know Barnaby is
going to follow up on it and ask questions. But
it's just you have to you have to expose yourself
to different you know I said earlier, two different ideas

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and different mindsets to grow in the subject. So look
at all these old negatives popping out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I just got to comment on that. That's wild. That's
really rare.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Yeah, I'm o negative to Roger.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Are you That's that's that's extraordinary? Yeah, I mean that
is extraordinary. That are really rare. And that's that's another one.
That's one, two, three, four, five and chat plus two
here that's I'm own negative too. That's that's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Baby, what are you be positive? Good night, Barnaby?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Are you a positive?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Give them the hook?

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
But I do have DNA.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
M you know, I don't know is okay? So if
we go somewhere and there's ten people I've been, let's say,
research and or investigating in some high, highly active places,
and then people are putting out, you know, recorders, and
they're doing this and they're doing that. And I remember

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one time my wife she said, you want to go
for a walk? Said not yet, it didn't feel like
the right time. And then I said, yes, let's go.
I turned my phone on recording. In a minute, and
thirty three seconds later we had three big foot house.
Chris has heard the big one. It sounds similar to
something he caught, which is a lot clearer. But it's

(01:03:31):
almost like something was holding me back, like no, no, wait, wait, wait, okay, now,
let's go. I can't explain it. It just may be
my you know, you know, I don't can't explain it
as to stop right there. But I've had people call
me lucky. I don't know if it's luck or you know,
like Chris and barnaby y'all talk about maybe it's the

(01:03:51):
individual person.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I think we're all touched.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
I do too, you know Southern my uncle's you say
that they could attached.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
That's another that that is. That's crazy. How many your
own negative here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
That's we are you all negative? Jof I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I'm a positive. But that's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
You and Barbie need to live.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Well. Like I said, though, I do have I do
have the Underthal DNA. So I got that heng on
for me. You do, I do?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
And I was shocked when that Of all the things
that came back, that was the one thing that shocked me,
was it? Uh? It said that of all people that
had Neonderthal DNA, I was like sixty percent more than most.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
I don't remember the number, but I was above average.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Is that a good thing to be part of? Andal? What?
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
I think we're smart. They were They were smart and
they were tough. Yeah. I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Yeah. Well a lot of people that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
We're fighting, we're just learning recently, they just call I
could talk a long time about Neanderthals. They get a
bad rap. They weren't They weren't dumb. Brutes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
No, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
I'm pretty smart people. And then I just I've been
reading lots about Dennis Slvans lately. That is a crazy
theory about Dennis s Ovan somewhere noticing that modern humans
have Denisovan DNA, and that's a really interesting hypothesis for
explanation of Bigfoot. Is Dennisovan dna. That's pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah. I just got a letter last night in the
middle of the night because it's from Russia. So I
got this letter. I won't read the whole thing. I'll
tell you hold on here. It's kind of interesting though.
It came in from a gentleman who has got a
little bit of money, raised Tim and somebody else, and

(01:05:50):
they retested Elena, where if you know, Lena is the
supposed have a bigfoot woman that was capture or like
a bigfoot, a female bigfoot that was captured in Russia
and then had a baby that was half h you

(01:06:11):
know whatever, half not bigfoot. And and Zuweitt really was
a person, and I do know that. And they they
somehow got DNA from zu Witt and there I tested
it once and it came back inconclusive, of course, but
he sent it because you get to remember, back when

(01:06:32):
I was doing Monster Quis, DNA was in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Its infancy, inexpensive and expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
But he sent me a letter let me so I
can find it, because it's back about one hundred emails
from last night. He was looking to do too. He's
looking for funding. They need twenty five thousand to do it.
He's working with the Copenhagen uh it's a primate they
do primate DNA there. In fact, it's one of the

(01:07:01):
labs that I'm going to be using for one particular sample.
And here it is right here. I got this letter
at I got it just another follow up letter from Richard.
Don't you know Richard's soul, Richard soul. He was on

(01:07:21):
the mailing list too. But anyhow, so it's a really
interesting thing. He's trying to raise twenty five grand to
see if zuwett is related to something they can't identify,
because if they could, it would give, like even me,
a comparison with our DNA. So we'll see, I mean

(01:07:47):
to seeing anything. I just thought was something every time
nobody can ever get like the full picture. I never
got the full picture. Apparently he did another study. He
didn't get the full picture. But it keeps encouraging you
to do more right. So he's looking at anyhow if
anybody wants to look into it. But I wish I

(01:08:08):
could get his first and last name. I'm not familiar
with him. It's Vlatimer anyhow, Richard's soul and soul is
spelled s O U L E. And I have a
feeling Richard would steer you to these people if you
want to donate a little money. Yeah, because Richard Soul
says I wholeheartedly endorse this approach. So there we go. Anyhow,

(01:08:35):
not for that, but you never know what you're gonna
get in your email. I can imagine, Yeah, it's I'll
tell you, I swear to god. You're sitting there eating
your raising brand, trying to get the bed, and you're
reading all these weird letters that you're getting and you're thinking,
holy crap, I'm living in the X files.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Did you have that?

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
Did any of y'all think that at this you know,
years ago, at this point in time, we would be talking,
you know, because about these subjects alive, Because I mean,
I grew up in a time. I'm not gonna talk
about Doug, but I grew up in a time where
you know, the phone calls were you know, old roadery
dolls and all that and mena and the technology we

(01:09:22):
saw was like buck Rogers and h Star Wars and
future stuff. And this is pretty amazing that to me
that we're scattered all over the country, but we have
people from all over the world in chat right now.
And I just I remember seeing and I'm not saying
it's just becalled Doug in there, but I remember seeing

(01:09:43):
like monster quests and being like, oh my god, like
something I was really interested in in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
It exposed me to some of the different stuff in
the in the different regions and the did you do
one on the chup of Cobra? Mhm, that's the I
believe it's the when I showed my dad because I
won't not going to get into the story, but there
was something close to my house similar to that, and
it was in pain, it was cold, and I put

(01:10:11):
it out of its misery and all and my dad
we couldn't figure out what it was. Didn't have a
camera back then, and it looked similar. When I saw
that episode, I said, Daddy, you've got to watch this.
And head man, that looks like the thing you know
behind your house, but I thought ninety percent sure it
was a mangy coyote, but man, it didn't look like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Well yeah, but then there were a bunch of people
that were seeing me ange covities or tuper cobras, And
yet the reports of trooper cobras have nothing to do
with a coyote, a coyote without here. These were. These
were creatures with spines down their back and big eyes
and kind of more monkey like creatures that were in trees, right, fangs.

(01:10:51):
I don't know who in the world came up with
that connection, and I just threw the whole thing off. Yeah,
all the research got the eld at that point.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Wow, And I remember one of the old crap moments
watching uh monster quests. You did the Thunderbirds also, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, that one of my episodes.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Yeah, okay, so when that episode came on it originally aired,
I'm watching it. I'm like, oh no. In third or
fourth grade, a guy from here came. We went to
school together all the all through you know, twelve years,
but he never told any crazy stories or anything. He

(01:11:33):
came back from the weekend we were third or fourth grade.
He said, hey, guys, I saw a pterodactyl this weekend.
I'm like, I don't know what that is, so but
he was telling me we looked it up picture and
everything it was that it was huge or whatever. Then
I see Monster Quest and not only was it the

(01:11:54):
pattern that showed the storm that came through went right
across Middle Tennessee and went up north. And it was
also the same time period.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
And yeah, we were talking back in the seventies.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
And right the late seventies. And the next time I
saw him, I'm like, Eric, did you see montre Quest
and did you see this show? And he's like I did,
and he said, that's what I was talking about, So
uh Dot, and see those sightings that's not never been reported,
you know, So how many other people saw these things,
just like Bigfoot? But I was glad to see that

(01:12:28):
and and stuff like that got me hooked on the
show because of some of the correlation between things that
happened in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
So yeah, that was I mean, it's a real interesting mystery,
you know, these big giant birds, because man, of it's
some big giant wing thing that swopped at our car.
You've heard that story. We ever told anybody. I don't
know anyhow, We don't know what it was, but it

(01:12:57):
was huge, dropped straight down out of the sky. It
swooped at my windshield, came right to the windshield and
vet duct and I ducked eventually because we thought it
was coming right through the windshield. And uh, I got
to look at it didn't look like a bird, but
I could have been mistaken. If it was a bird,

(01:13:17):
its wings were wider than both lanes of the freeway.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
So was that a underbird or was it a giant pterodactyl?
Or But I swear to god, I remember seeing a
humanoid face with pointed ears.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
It's interesting. I've talked to you and of it about
it quite a bit, and both of you the story
has been consistent. You tell the story a lot more
calmly than a vet does. It rattled the heck out
of her. I mean it scared the crap out of her.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Oh yeah, oh oh yeah. Trust me. I can't dig
her anywhere at night.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
I mean, if there's woods anywhere near, they ain't happening. Not.
I'm like, you're safe in the car, you're saving the car.
It ain't there.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
I found the more weird stuff that's happened to you,
the less it, the more it takes to shake you up.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
So you know, dog doesn't get rattled too easily.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
But no, but you know you think about you think
about that often because you're like, well, why did we
get to see that or was it just a random coincidence? Right?
You know? And speaking of weird, here comes mister talking
weird himself.

Speaker 10 (01:14:30):
Greetings everybody, how are you doing this really cold Thanksgiving eve?
Not in the north would see the snow's belting down,
as I'm sure it is in most of the places,
you gentlemen, not so Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:42):
We don't have snow, but I can smell it down
here when that Arctic blast comes down. It's a different Uh,
it's a different area. So I know people would think
that's crazy, but you can actually smell it today.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
So you did you live in the like in the forest?
You live in the world.

Speaker 9 (01:15:00):
I have a cabin in the woods. Yeah, it's so cool,
which is cool. I like it here.

Speaker 10 (01:15:05):
You know, it's they're always keeping an ear out for squatches,
and they're like, whatever, we hear a noise. They always
joke with my nine year old daughter who lives with me,
and you think that's a squatch.

Speaker 9 (01:15:15):
Sometimes she does.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Sometimes she doesn't, but it's an ongoing and ongoing gag.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
We have.

Speaker 10 (01:15:19):
We've had a lot of owls here lately this season.
For some reason, the our population must have exploded, or
it must be there must be a migratory or a
seasonal thing with ours. We don't normally have this many.
And some of them hoot like monkeys, And when we're
out late, yeah, when they start hooting like monkeys, that's
when she thinks it's a squatch or something. And then
she gets scared and she runs inside. She doesn't know

(01:15:40):
me get scared of stuff. But the idea of, you know,
a squatch hooting adder in the woods is probably a
little bit too much.

Speaker 9 (01:15:45):
So then she's like, let's go inside.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
If you want to ruin your life, Dean, all you
gonna do is go out there and do like three
wood knocks one time, and your your cabin will be
on the map forever more. You've never done that, have you?

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
No.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
I think I talked about it once, maybe in comments
on your show, Doug, and I think I mentioned it
maybe on Talking Weird. My girlfriend was here one night
and we were both out on the porch and there
was I don't know what it was. I mean, I'm
not I've lived here for almost ten years, but I'm
not down with every kind of North American animal. I'd

(01:16:23):
certainly never heard this before. It was a very deep,
strange growl, like and ongoing for a while, not very
far like in our front woods or on the other
side of the road where there's also it's not my
backwards and we were like, what on earth is that?
I jokingly, of course, that's probably a squatch. So I whooped.

Speaker 9 (01:16:42):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:16:43):
I'm not somebody who's out there squatching, but I certainly
listened to enough of you guys and watched enough, you know,
monster quests and finding bigfoots to know how to.

Speaker 9 (01:16:51):
Do the whoop.

Speaker 10 (01:16:52):
And I did the whoop, and we got a knock back,
we got a tree knock Then it was the weird
and my girlfriend, who's lived in this part of Wisconsin
her entire life as well. She hunt, so she's used
to being in the woods. She doesn't freak by much.
She was like, a I've never heard anything like that growl,
And when we got that knock back, she was just
flaber gas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
And this is right by your homestewn Yeah, so okay, well,
obviously if you have Woods Winner Hills, you have Winer nearby.

Speaker 9 (01:17:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:17:17):
And interestingly, the late Linda Godfrey in her book Weird Wisconsin,
which I bought when I first came to this part
of the world, she talks about a sasquatch encounter very
close by to here. It's actually in the book, and
when I was reading, it was like, it's between this
town and town the book says, And I'm like, that's
literally where I am.

Speaker 9 (01:17:36):
And then I read more of the report.

Speaker 10 (01:17:38):
I worked out I know where that is, and I
drove just up the road and around the corner and oh,
there's the cricket came out of and wandered up into
this people's poverty. So yeah, there's there's squatch reports around here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Are you east of Claire?

Speaker 9 (01:17:50):
Are you west of okla We are to the east
of Oaklaire.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Okay, that's a yeah, yeah, that's a.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Good air of Hilaria.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
It's a really good area.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Dean. Before we forget, you want to tell people that
are listening they'll be listening tomorrow, what your time slide
is and what your show name is.

Speaker 9 (01:18:09):
Oh sure, I appreciate that, Roger.

Speaker 10 (01:18:10):
It's talking weird It's nine pm Thursday's Central time on
the Untold Radio network, and I'm going to do I
haven't got a guest tomorrow. I'm always a guest driven show,
but I thought, I don't want to bother anybody on
their Thanksgiving. So maybe people will pop in, maybe somebody
want to jump in and say howdy, But I'll just
be talking weird literally for an hour or so, like
I usually do.

Speaker 9 (01:18:30):
And I just I like to.

Speaker 10 (01:18:32):
I like to keep those holiday commitment dates to the
people who are the regular listeners in case they're at
home doing nothing and want to tune in.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
So so I'll be on here tomorrow nine pm Central.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
All right, a nine Central hop up in for you?

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Dean.

Speaker 9 (01:18:44):
Oh, that'd be wonderful. I'd love to.

Speaker 10 (01:18:45):
I didn't want to take anybody away from their family
dinner or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Please, you're I'm joking. I've gone to the ill laws tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:18:57):
I will send you a link then, Doug in Cash.

Speaker 8 (01:19:02):
You got to be like me, force your family onto
your show on the holidays. I got my.

Speaker 9 (01:19:08):
You know, I get my mom who's visiting. In fact,
that's what I was doing.

Speaker 10 (01:19:10):
We were watching myself, my daughter and my mother were
watching transplants and automobiles, the greatest Thanksgiving movie ever made.
And on Christmas I do the last two years. My
mother's also visited for Christmas at this period of the year,
and I have her on the Christmas episode, so then
it's a very family kind of Christmas.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
Oh, Kim, can Catile be there? Excellent? Thank you Kim.

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Yeah. So what Dean? I almost called you, mister Dean?
What you know what we did early on? I explained
kind of what Untold Radio Network was for. I had
somebody to approach me, and they thought I wasn't doing
the show anymore. And I realized that a lot of
people that listen to this on like Spotify and whatever

(01:19:55):
don't know that we may show pictures or video or
and where to find us. I just assume and like
a lot of people do know. But we have new
people coming in all the time, and I thought this
would be a great opportunity to put that out there
and and that way maybe some of those can come
over and see what we what we're talking about when
we were alive. So I appreciate you coming on. It's

(01:20:17):
nice to meet you. Finally to meet you too, Roger.
It's been on the show. Oh, yes, sir, I try to.
I was telling the guys earlier. You know, I watched
a lot of the shows when I can, because I'm
still I'm I'm still in the new new phases of
this and I'm I'm trying to figure out, you know,
what in the world's going on. So I appreciate y'all.

(01:20:39):
I mean, Chris, Chris has helped me a lot, uh
even before this. Doug, you know, I can ask him
question and Jeff also, so I won't bug y'all too much,
but I might ask y'all some questions, you know, borrowing men, Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Hit me up to doctor Doctor Dean, I'd like to
have you on my show for as a guest.

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Uh oh, i'd like that. Yeah, just are we friends
on Facebook? If not, just get my contact for a dog,
I'd be happy to come on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'll get your info. Yeah cool, look
forward to that.

Speaker 10 (01:21:10):
I appreciate the appreciate the invitation, and I an if
you guys are free tomorrow night and want to and
want to jump on you all, you all can get
into the network anyway, so you don't even need an invice.

Speaker 9 (01:21:20):
Just see you and I'll bring you on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:25):
You know, this is an interesting question. I've never thought about.
Have any of y'all heard of a bigfoot having a tale?
I've never heard anybody talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I could tell you a tale of a big foot.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
Let it rip.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Chris was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Right there, you get it. Thanks, And in.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
This comment here Roger useuld back up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Why in the world or how did you come up
that question? No, there's a reason you asked in chat
Oh somebody in chat ass. Yeah, it's an interesting question.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
Yeah, I've never I mean, I've only seen two and
that's that's that's a lot apparently, and it was thirty
five yards thirty five years in between, so I didn't
get to see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
I believe dogmen have tails.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say dog man accounts. You hear
that a lot that people talk about a tale that
wolf or something.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I've heard that bear dogmen have tails.

Speaker 8 (01:22:34):
Don't do I've heard both ways on dog man that
some of them do, some of them don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Yeah, yep, I've paid both too. We're seen both.

Speaker 8 (01:22:42):
Yeah, but there's a lot of different variations of the
dog man creatures, anything from the werewolf to a new
bist to Hyaena. So you have a lot of different
sighting reports based on the characteristics of them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yeah, I agree, it's not quite as uniform as bigfoot sightings.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
And then I think, I do you think Roger was
going to ask Diana something about blood type? I'm not
good because of hippola.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
We're not we're not in the medical field. So Dean,
what blood type are you?

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
If you don't mind sharing negative?

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
All right, good night, everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Well the extraordinary tell them.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
And look, somebody in chat said, look, I'm you know,
a whatever. That's what I was saying. It's like seven
percent or O negative, but we had eighty percent in chat,
so it needs to be something to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
That, you know, could.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
Uh, it doesn't mean that we're leaving you guys out
that are like a positive and all. There's a connection
there somewhere that you might can figure out why why
you're connected to us. It's just Dean. What I did
was I started wondering why things were happening to me,
and I did a DNA test. I come back a

(01:24:00):
large Well, I don't have large percentage, but Neanderthal, my
own negative blood and some other things. And I've got
Cherokee blood on both sides of my family and when
I started looking at me, things started not making sense.
But they're just more questions. And then I just asked
in chat. One night, we had a lot of people

(01:24:21):
in chat, like how many of youall own negative? And
it was like, amazing. The number of people is incredible.
I'm not saying that it is something. It's just it's
just odd that a low percentage of OH negative people
get together and talk about strange things.

Speaker 10 (01:24:39):
I've certainly heard theories that people with own negative might
be more likely to be abducted by aliens, or that
OH negative might be some original genetic type from when
you know, the Ananachi or the ancient gods or whatever
interfered with our DNA. So I've sent the heard people
posited the significance.

Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
Of of own negative blood. I don't have any particular
theories myself about.

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
It, right, It's just I'm like I was like Jeff,
he's just learning it. That night. I'm like, I'm looking
at all the you know, the hands like me, me, me, me,
and I just couldn't believe it. Now, I can't tell
you what it means. It's just something for somebody like
Doug eye check to look into.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Right, Yeah, that's that's just crazy. That's since ever I've
ever even heard about that, And that's amazing, how many
oh negatives there are in this community.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
Yeah, and then once I found once red Cross finds
out your own negative, it'd be like Dove's emails at
one o'clock in the morning, trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
You'll be getting some phone calls.

Speaker 6 (01:25:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they won't leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
But we probably just broke every YouTube rule.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
We're gonna go out with a bang dog.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Not a contest, by the way, vera accent thank you
letter for the not a contest.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Not a contest anything, not a winner, not a contest.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Everybody send Doug a DNA sample that.

Speaker 10 (01:26:12):
Don't yeah, film coming along dog, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
We just keep shipping off more samples or we're just
waiting to get all of our lap stuff done. I
can't do anything. I have no control over it. I
mean as many times, like how many times can I
call these people and bug them like what is there?
You know they work on different timelines than we do.
It's like I have a film, I can't do the

(01:26:41):
film and they get the results and they just like
they don't even give a damn. They're just like, well,
we're doing it as quick as we can, and there's
other things ahead of you, and blah blah blah. You know,
so we just in fact, we just paid a bunch
of money was donated to try to speed things up

(01:27:04):
a little bit. So it's all we can do is
just keep trying.

Speaker 9 (01:27:09):
I'm looking forward to the results.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Yeah, but I'm sitting here with thirty two terabytes of
footage now wow, and I just need to get the
ending done. It's the ending, can't the beginning's done? Just
need the ending.

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
Well, that's what That's what stays with people, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
So whatever, Actually, you know, what we could do, We
could just do it, like a lot of other things
will just not it will be thank you, good night, folks.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Enough of this crap.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Well the results will be in next year.

Speaker 5 (01:27:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I've even we've talked about that. It's like, god, you
just maybe that's what we have to I'm like, no,
we can't do that. I have to have the conclusions
of the end. I've got to do the same thing
we did before that doc. It was you know, numerous
years and the works too, but it was a much
smaller scale. This is much bigger, and I'm doing it

(01:28:08):
with far less money, so you got to kind of
wait till money streams in and then you get it.
You know, you get something out. Just to send a
crew out for like four days now, it's cost me
well over fifteen to twenty thousand just a two man crew.
It's not like an extravagant crew either. It's just a

(01:28:30):
sound guy and a camera guy.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
That's why I saw those shoot all of my own stuff.
I kind of foot anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yeah, I remember, you know, happy my boys were. We
hit goal of eighty and I'm like, well, the other'll
get us through two or three shoots, but what are
we gonna do for the rest. And they're like, oh,
you'll figure it out, just like thanks guys.

Speaker 8 (01:28:50):
Thanks on me or Kickstarter still running dug.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Well yeah, yeah, you can still donate. People can still
donate money absolutely. I mean, once you at goal that
you can just keep it up and you can keep
you know, people can continue to donate. But we did
make goal right away, and which I was actually amazed
we did because you just think about how good some

(01:29:17):
people are, how nice they are, you know, think about
the people in super chat that donate money. It's awesome.
It's just beyond kind because you know there's nobody sending
them a bill. They're doing it out of the goodness
of their heart and not because somebody's forcing them.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
Well, Doug, how do we donate very act?

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Won't you just go to Hanger one Publishing and just
go to the legitimate Science. It's right at the top
and then you can there's a donate button and you
can donate right there. That's cool. So we have another
We have some really amazing samples yet that we have

(01:29:59):
to send over sees. I've already got the same samples.
We had eight of the same thing and a lab.
It's got everything, got confirmation that got him supposed to
have results on that one in January. But it may
be the best sample anybody's ever had in history. It
was blood and it was collected highly vetted. I'm happy

(01:30:22):
that I can tell his story real quick. It was
found in the left footprint only, so it was a
little foot injury. There was a blood drop and it
was noticed because they had followed the trackway to a cliff.
There was a butt print. Buttprint was huge. The grass

(01:30:43):
was just lifting off the buttprint. I mean it was starting,
you know what I mean. Grass does when you it
starts rebounding, and he looked over the cliff that it
was sitting at and there was blood on a rock
where the left foot would have sat. So you went, oh,
left foot blood, I better go check all those tracks.

(01:31:06):
So we went back and sure enough, there's blood in
each left foot. So we have we have the photos
of the footprints, the photo of the blood in the footprints,
we have, we have everything. So it's highly vetted right
that it's not like a deer, because a deer, if
it was a deer that you know, the thing had

(01:31:27):
hunted and was carried, it probably wouldn't end up in
just the left footprints.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
That's the link there. Even though it's not my show,
I'm still pitching into do what I do. That's a
That is the address to get to the page on
hang you one to donate so you can you can
go out there, you can, you can pre order the
DVD in the book. Everything. That's that's the place to
do it right there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Yeah, it's hard, you know. When I was doing Monster Quest,
I mean, you're getting funded by the network and I
could just go to them if I needed some being special,
if they felt it was worthwhile but man, being on
your own like this, it's just brutal with costs so high.
You know what, our hotels now are like four or
five hundred night in these bigger cities.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
You know, the inside, you're in complete control. You don't
nobody telling you what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Yeah, which is good because if people are patient, they're
gonna get a really good product with some really good
are raising results. But if I rush it, like you
have to do with a network, you get you get.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Monster quests or network limited you for time and you
know that kind of stuff. So yeah, you can do
whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Yeah, I mean, these are all the great stuff. We
shot up at Snowgrove, Chris over what over two times,
two visits we shot a ton of great, amazing stuff
and and then what happened? The cabin even got wrecked
in one of those shoots by a bigfoot again, and
so we when what do we do? We find a hair?

(01:33:00):
So now we've got another hair right directly from sell
Grove writing association with you know, the doors being ripped apart.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
That was a great fine too, right on that original door.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yeah, on the original door. And it's it's not an
animal here, it's not beer I mean, I know my hair.
It's not bear, it's not human. It's got it. It's
like human hair, but it's got a taper tip, it's
naturally worn, it's got no medulla in it, and and
we only collected one. And I'm just waiting now for

(01:33:35):
the right lab that's going to take that hair, because
that air was collected right away, that was out of
the sun right away, and the mitochondrial on that should
be really good. And I've got it stored properly in paper.
And you know, we no, we did it correctly. We
collected it correctly. But that's just one of many examples

(01:33:59):
of all the things that have happened because of the delays.
So I look at it that way and I just go, well,
there's a reason it's been delayed. The blood, we wouldn't
have had blood. The hand, we have a hole. We
have an entire hand.

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Yeah, I sent him a hand.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
And you can tell him the story, Chris. I think
people will find it pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
So I have a friend of mine whose name is
Don Monroe, and he lives up in the Montana Wilderness,
and the local sheriff up there at the dump got
a report of a hand that was found at the dump.
So he went out to go investigate it, and he
looked at it, and he knew it wasn't an animal hand,
and they knew it wasn't a human hand. So he said,

(01:34:45):
who could I contact to get his hand and get
it looked at, and he called Don, and Don went
and he collected that whole hand, and he had it
for a few years and he started in, uh, it
was frozen, yeah, alcohol for a while, and then it
was frozen, and then he gave it up and he
said he wanted to know exactly what it was. He

(01:35:06):
wants to know what it is. He doesn't care if
it's a bear or something.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
And in two years, we have not even had the
quick test done on it. And I've talked to them
over and over and over, and now I've got it promised.
It's like, you know, these QUICKTNA tests don't take long
to do. All that does is determined, oh it's not
a bear, or oh it's not a human. And so

(01:35:32):
I'm still waiting for the damn quick test. It's been
how long, two years, Chris?

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Two years?

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Yet we've been waiting. It's not anything I'm doing it.
DeLand it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
And Don's a bear hunter. Everybody, he does guided trips.
He knows bear paus and his buddy's no bear paus.
And this is not a bear. Pause.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
It looks like a human hand with hair, a lot
of hair on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
It now, so hopefully not gone wood.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
It comes back and apparently went to the police determined
it non human, so they didn't want anything to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
And then we got x rays to the x ray
pictures of it from a doctor and it's it's just
not an animal and it's unknown.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
So this will be in a legend me and science too.
So once again, that's still even the delay, the COVID
delay got us.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
The hand that I like Lee Warner's question, what type
is the hand got?

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
We gotta know it's all negative, it's all negative. Uh
So anyhow, I've just you know, the whole legendmen and science.
There can I just there's nothing i can do, as
much as i'd like to, I'm not in control of
these big labs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Gonna be worth the weight though, it's like none other.
It's like a production that nobody's ever seen on Bigfoot
ever before ever.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
It'll be worth the weight, and you know it can't
go on forever.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
We have an untold radio network private preview. I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
I'm joking. H Uh, that would be That would be cool,
wouldn't it. It would be coot that a while, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
The weekend at your place and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
A million Live Years.

Speaker 9 (01:37:14):
Premiere at Midwest we Fest and Clay with May talk.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
So so Lisa's I bet a dollar it's own night.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Yep, that twenty guys coming to the house for the
weekend and Brainer sleeping bags and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
So. One of the excuses we heard on the hand was, uh,
the tech cat can't do anything with it until they
get a raby shot. I'm like, what, whatever, We'll go
along with it. I'm not I'm not a scientist.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I had it in my fridge. You're here at the
house in the freezer, I mean shot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Yeah, and and yeah. Could you imagine if somebody would
have grabbed it and thrown it in the micro away everything.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
There, dry ice and send it with baby diapers in
the box, all these precautions to get it there.

Speaker 6 (01:38:16):
That's a good question. You think you'll ever get the
hand back. He's not gonna say anything, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
We know it's been confiscated. It's in a vault at
the in Washington. Do you see at this point?

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Yeah, no, kidding, I'm sure we're already on a bunch
of lists already.

Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
Oh man, that you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Uh is? That?

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
Is that what the guy was talking about on y'all
show Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
What? Oh? I have no? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
Yeah, I mean we were at the l b A
a couple of years ago. We had a pretty good,
uh turnout, and I don't know how many times the
black helicopters came over and circled it at night, just
a I don't know if they're keeping eye on us or
they're keeping things away from us too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
That could have been a possibility keeping an eye on Dean.

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
We've had locations that I've gone out to that black,
unmarked helicopters have flown over us several times.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
I ha my house for fifteen minutes one night after
having sasquatch activity right out my back door, just hovering
over my apartment. Just life is like it was unreal.
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Adam had the same thing. We're setting up that big
thirty day camera thing up in a Grand Rapids area
on the National Forest, and all these black helicopters were
flying over the top of anim while we're setting up cameras,
and then even an internet truck came into the National

(01:39:51):
Forest on a dirt road and then jammed the signal
for a long time until Adam went up to that
rig and they freaking took off and then oh suddenly everything
worked again.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
Thanks Charles, I appreciate that. That's that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
I'm excited. Adam invited me to help him set up
his project in the spring this year to set up
the TP where he's had He's got a new new
place to go, so he invited me up. So I'm
going to come up for you know, a few days
and help him set up camp.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Yeah, you're hoping to I'm hoping to camp with him
up northern Minnesota too with the TP.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
And that's cool. Yeah, I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
The only problem with the TP doesn't keep the bugs
out of the mosquitoes out, because it's good about off
the ground, so I have fun. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
He's making it. He's making so the wife can come
up there and work now, so he's decking it all
out with bathroom now and all.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
I haven't seen it. He's excited about it. He loves
that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Yeah, he does Adam loves his TP.

Speaker 6 (01:40:49):
Yeah, when y'all were on the way at Alabama, I
didn't know he was with you, and you stopped, y'all
stop somewhere the BUCkies, and you took a picture of
his vehicle. That's the coolest ever. I thought, y'all. I thought,
you'll just happened to meet somebody. It looked like a
Jurassic Park vehicle, but bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
You know. We met at that same point within a
half hour of each other. And he left from Minnesota
and we left from Ohio, and we met at that
same area where we're going to beet within a half
hour of each other. It was crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:41:19):
He said he had didn't he have people approaching him
and asking him questions about that, giving us reports.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
We had two old ladies pull us over, had our
pictures taken with them, and by the end of the visit,
when of the lady goes, oh, you guys, changed my
mind and got in her car. It was the coolest thing.

Speaker 6 (01:41:38):
Wow. And I was gonna make a point for people
in chat and people that are listening when we say
black helicopters come to check it, they're not being secret
if they come in low and then make sure you
know they're there. So and even with that thing with
Adam Doug, I don't know if that was a type
of intimidation thing or what it was, but obviously they
didn't want to talk to him. So it's just blows

(01:42:00):
my mind that we all kind of know that they
probably know everything, but when that happens. I mean, I
had a I had a lady I worked at the
jail right out of high school, and she was from
Texas and she was a female correction officer. She was
an older lady, really really sweet person, and we were
in the tower one night. It was it was boring,

(01:42:23):
and she started telling me about her granddad, who was
an Air Force officer I believe if I'm not mistaken,
and on his deathbed he told her that he had
seen alien bodies in a hangar and that they're real,
and she and so the family was confused. Like he was.

(01:42:45):
He wasn't on his way out and didn't delirious on meds.
He was looking. He called him in. He said, I
want to get this off my chest. So I don't
know if that guy ever told I don't think he
ever told anybody else, but just to get to listen
to that was like a privilege. And how many other people,
you know, how many other stories. I'm sure Doug gets

(01:43:06):
to hear a lot privately, I get to hear some,
but and I'm sure Dean and Barnaby at all, y'all.
But it's amazing that all these stories are out there.
And that guy. What got me was he didn't want
to die with that secret and it was such a
touching story and then he scared his whole family and
them passed away. But that's that says a lot. If

(01:43:29):
that's the last one of the last things you do.

Speaker 9 (01:43:31):
Yeah, that's it. That's a heck of a story.

Speaker 10 (01:43:33):
Unfortunately, chance and I'm gonna have to know though, because
my daughter goes to a mom so for Thanksgiving tomorrow,
so I should spend our kind of Thanksgiving night with
her before she goes to bed. So I'd like to
be able to tuck her in things so it's getting
closer to her to her bedtime.

Speaker 9 (01:43:46):
But I hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving. Thanks so
much for inviting Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
Thank you. Nice to meet you well.

Speaker 10 (01:43:54):
And if anybody wants to hop on talking with you
tomorrow night at nine pm Central, you're more.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
Than welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
You soon too, Dean. Have a happy thank.

Speaker 10 (01:44:02):
Thank you Chris, Happy Thanksgiving toal with you you.

Speaker 9 (01:44:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:44:07):
So Doug. You got any funny production stories from the
Monster Quest days?

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Oh God, just chilling them. Uh. Probably the funny, the weirdest,
the worst thing that ever could have happened to us.
Couldn't have been anywhorse. Okay, do you remember nine went one? Right?
And remember they shut all the flights down. I was
the same thing. I was just about to start LMS

(01:44:38):
one for the first one so that we have this
big disaster they shut all the flights down. Well before that,
I was working on a snow documentary all about snow.
It was called Deadly Beauty Snow Secret Life, and it
was about avalanches into different types of ice and snow

(01:44:59):
c and the animals that live under the you know,
the Nivian world under the snow right in the winter,
the snowbug, snow fleas, on and on and on. I
mean I was just no oney'd ever done a dog
on snow, and so I wanted to do this. Well,
one of the things we had in our dock was
a lot of avalanches. Built a cabin and then put

(01:45:21):
cameras in the cabin and then had an avalanche. We
had to use dynamite, right, to do the avalanches. You
do dynamite, drop it, you light the fuse in the
helicopter and you throw it up.

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Yeah, well that's how you do it. So okay, I
don't want to talk too much about this. I don't
want to talk too much about it. But anyhow, so
we're at the airport. I'm just gonna flash forward. Now,
we're at the airport. I meet Steve, my camera guy,
who's the mastermind behind the avalanches, right and all that stuff.

(01:45:58):
He's really fuses fearless. So we're at the airport and
they want to X ray all of our gear. So
he opens all the cases and everything's cool. Everything's cool.
He opens the cameras the camera case and here is
this probably basketball sized ball with foam and tape all

(01:46:21):
around it. Right, And I said, Steve, you do not
wrap the camera. You wonder whether are you nuts? I said,
you realize this is right after night one one. And
of course I know the cameras covered in gunpowder, and
I also know there's an egg timer in there, so
there's a ticker in there, and it's covered in gunpowder,

(01:46:42):
and I'm like trying to yell at Steve out of
the side of my mouth, going why didn't you take
the time to get that all cleaned up? And you know,
we talked about cleaning up the camera before we left.
It's a film camera, not a video camera. It's actually
thirty five miliilm. And in fact, if you guys see
any avalanche, every movie you've ever seen with avalanches, like

(01:47:06):
you go to a movie vertical limit, that's all the
avalanche footage that we shot. It has never been done
because it was a special technique with an egg timer, right,
and the film camera and then you go up to
the top and you work with avalanche controlling. You go
in the helicopter and then you throw a dynamite out

(01:47:26):
the window and get the oven and then it comes
towards the camera, but then the camera's on an egg timer,
so it triggers it. Yeah. Anyhow, make long story short,
that was not a good scene. The guy was freaking
out and he thought for sure it was a bomb,
and he's shaking, he's screaming, and he's calling the bomb squad.

(01:47:51):
Of course, I don't blame him. Looking the X ray
it's a timer and it's covered with gunpowder, explosivesnether thing
like other things. Yeah, that wasn't good anyhow. That's how
I started my first shoot for Legend and Science. That's
how it started.

Speaker 6 (01:48:09):
I was picturing that they'd let you all through and
got this little lady with two bottles of water, not
her cuffed. I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Well, the funniest thing. Then the guy grabbed a knife
and he's shaking so bad. He started to cut the
foam and then the duct tape, you know, because it's
all wrapped a million times, and he's just he's shaking.
He's so scared, and I'm thinking, he's got the bomb
squad coming. I'm like, what are you doing? You know,
I'm the I know it's not you know, it's not

(01:48:35):
even dangerous. It's just a film camera. But he doesn't
know that.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Wait on the bomb squad. Let them do their jahah
my god.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
But he was shaking. He's trying to coh it was.
It was a disaster, and I'm thinking, Okay, this is good,
this is this shoot is starting to be really good. Right,
And then we went to New York. Okay, So then
we get to New York and I've got an interview
doctor Esteban Sarmiento, and I'm going to interview George Shaller,

(01:49:02):
who is the head of the World Wildlife Fund, about Bigfoot.
And these are rare things to get a guy like George,
somebody of his stature to agree to an interview about Bigfoot.
But he had an open mind, and I was going
to meet him at the Central Park Zoo and interview
him at the Central Park Zoo, and then we had

(01:49:24):
to go to the American Museum. So we get to
New York and after this harrowing flight to get there,
and we're driving to our hotel that was booked by
you know Joe, right, Jeff, Oh yeah, yeah, So Joe
arranged our travel plans. So we're driving and it's like, oh, man,

(01:49:45):
are people supposed to be spitting at your car and
throwing rocks at your car? And Joe's like, I don't
think so. And I'm like, I think we're going into
a really bad part at town. Joe, I think I
think we need to turn around because there's a guy
with a two bye for it's gonna hit our car.
You know, we need to leave. We're not welcome here.

(01:50:06):
And yet our hotel right there, we're gonna like, we're
gonna stay there. We wouldn't have lasted one day. So
I said, turn around, take us to Manhattan. We'll just
just stay down right Manhattan, and so we did, and
then then we had the first shoot was to go
to the American Museum of Natural History. So this trip,

(01:50:26):
I'm like thinking, it can't get any worse. And we
haven't even shot one foot of film in So we
go to the museum and it's a you know, the
American Museum of Natural History. It's a big deal to
film there, big deal. And we get up there and
we unload the car and we have our little like
fold out truck, you know, to wheel all this heavy gear.

(01:50:50):
And the lady who's in charge goes, oh, you can't
use that. You have to hand carry your gear. And
it's like two blocks away, okay. So we it's like, oh, well, okay,
we'll carry the gear. And she goes, by the way,
you can't use any of our electricity, and we're thinking, well,

(01:51:12):
how are we going to shoot it. We need electricity
with lights, you know, we have to have our movie lights.
I mean, we had a big lighting systems. She's like
you cannot use the thing. In fact, if you even
try to use our electricity, we will have you thrown out.
Blah blah blah. They were doing everything they could to
make us not be able to film anything about Bigfoot

(01:51:35):
and interview one of their scientists. So they're making it hard.
So long story short, Steve goes, nah, no problem, he goes,
I got a bunch of batteries. So he got a
bunch of batteries he had stuck in there, and so
we went in, we did our shoot. We had batteries
for lights, and we got the shoot done, and then
we get out and our car's been towed away as

(01:51:58):
we forgot we parked in a park. So I'm just like, oh, guys,
this this is just not good. So anyhow, but that's
legimate science. One first day day one.

Speaker 6 (01:52:14):
I was wanting to Jeff, I might I want to
ask it. Do you have any funny donk stories for
us that you can tell you let's put that that
you can.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
Put on Oh golly, put.

Speaker 6 (01:52:25):
Him on the spot, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Don't don't. Don't say any about those life saver gummies.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
I have a I have a lot of stories, but
I'm not sure if you are really appropriate. You know, honestly,
our best stories, our best stories. We kind of talk
about the intro to the show, just my favorite Doug stories.
Or is that's that he's such a nexus of strangeness.

(01:52:52):
It's just he's like a magnet for wild, weird and wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
So I, well, I can I can tell you really
quick where Jeff can tell this story about how I
met you because it has to do with Bigfoot in pizza.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Well, yeah, I mean, I I actually it's interesting that
I pulled I pulled up the Legend Meat Science to donateresting.
I actually donated that. I participated in the kickstarter for that.
You did I met before I met you?

Speaker 10 (01:53:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
So yeah, I mean what that what got me into
Bigfoot in the first place was watching the original Legend
Meet Science what twenty some years ago. That's what got
me interested. Yeah, I mean beyond the casual almost got interest.
And yeah, it's just it's just kind of a crazy

(01:53:43):
story how we met because it it's weird. Well, yeah,
it's I got to think here for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Oh, I went okay, I went to the the the
Minnesota Big Granary and for the v I was a
speaker and for the VIP dinner, they took us to
sammy Pizzas with jeff family. Jeff's family owns. Okay, so
we go there and I'm like, Dad, why would he
have a VIP at a pizza place. So we got

(01:54:10):
there and it was like the best pizza and the
best chicken wings I've ever ever in my life. And
I'm really old, right, and so it was like I
was so amazing. I was like, oh my god, I
couldn't quit thinking about that place, and to the point
where I wanted to drive four hours to go there.
That's how good it is. Okay, So I get home

(01:54:33):
thinking about it. John Badger goes up to investigate a
bigfoot sighting in Grand Rapids, and I said, John, stop
at Sammy's and give me some chicken wings at pizza
and so but then Vet heard me and she goes, oh,
there's a Sammi's right down the road. I'm like what.

(01:54:54):
I'm like, oh my god? Really, So I called there.
I was like, okay, John, you don't have to get
you don't have to get it. I call them and
I get delivery a bunch of chicken wings and pizza
and I eat till I'm really full. And then next
day Joe, I've got to meet you with Joe. So
Joe comes over and I said, Joe, do you want
some Sammy's leftover Sammy's chicken wings and pizza. So he goes, yeah,

(01:55:17):
that'd be great, So I eat it up. I mean,
this is what happens. He goes, the guy that owns
that place wants to meet with you, and I'm like what.
He goes, the guy that owns Sammy's Pizza wanted to
meet you, and I'm like what, So that's that just
didn't make any sense, the whole you know, the circle. Yeah,

(01:55:39):
the coincident, the coincidence.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
Well, yeah, it turns well, it turns out a gal
who works who worked for you, well she works for
Metro still. Yeah, is uh. I introduced her to her fiance.
I know her really well. So she's so we had
just talked, we had talked about stuff, so yes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
And the best friends one of my best friends.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
Yeah, it's and it's his fiance and she's great cow
she still she still works for for Doug's sons, so yeah.
So yeah, so anyway, that that's kind of how we
met is they're like, oh, by the way. Yeah, this
guy wants to beat you. So we met and the
first night we met, we went and we hung out.
I don't know, it's past midnight. Just it turns out
we've got a million things in common. His mom is

(01:56:19):
from my hometown, which is kind of wild. His cousin
taught me how to fly our airplanes, you know, when
I was a young teenager. I mean, we have so
many connections. The drag racing connection with Fred and I
mean we we've both been to the same resort, the
same resort that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
You go in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
Next.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
Yeah, we went to the same resort in Mexico on
Lake back Rack. We've been to the same uh.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Roger. This is a place they shoot at you, right.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
This is like in the middle of cartel country.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
It's in the middle of the Sineloa cartel.

Speaker 9 (01:56:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
Yeah, it's since the see.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
It wasn't as bad when we went. It's it was
getting bad. It's you can't go there anymore. The best
basis on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
I went there because I went there. I was doing
an outdoor show in this and the host says, oh,
we got to go down there. We got invited.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
You know, it's all free and we can go and
bub you'll fly us in. And so we go down
there and do this thing, and I end up on
the front page of the newspaper in Minneapolis here the
start tribute and the big newspaper here with my shirt off,
you know, casting and it all goes and I remember
I get on the airplane and there's a woman reading

(01:57:40):
the newspaper and she goes, oh, this is really interesting.
It was on the front page of the page. This
is a really interesting place. And we're talking about it.
And we get done talking about it, and I go,
you didn't happen to look at the cover there, did you?
The front page picture? She look scited. She goes, oh,

(01:58:00):
my god, that's you and so and so. Anyhow, so
then his dancy's that article. Yeah, And we went fishing
Drag's Jeff down there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
And I've also been fishing at the same resort that
they go to to go to Snellgrove, that resort up
in Ontario. I've been to that resort. What I mean,
it's just crazy that the we found out we've crossed paths.
I used to work at an ABC affiliate in Duluth, Minnesota,
he was freelancing out of there to say, I don't
I don't remember meeting, but we certainly crossed paths. Gosh,

(01:58:32):
that was thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
And I find out you're you're a customer of hangar Onan.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Yeah, of all of this, all the companies.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
And I started, he was already a customer.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
Yeah, slot car stuff, the publishing stuff, the classic Atta
restoration parts. I mean, we've got just a million things
in commons. So yeah, the first time we met, we
we just sat up and chatted past midnight. And I've
been great friends ever since. And I just realized that
I just hit a year doing the show. It's just
it's just been a year now. Yeah, couldn't been a year.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
But I've only known him six months and he's been
doing the show for.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
A year, you know, a little longer than that. But
it's funny to come fun.

Speaker 6 (01:59:12):
It's a small world. I remember the first time Doug
and I talked. We we had My family had a
store on Interstate for almost thirty years.

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
And we live.

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
Fifty miles south of Nashville. And I asked dougas have
you ever traveled up Ice sixty five and whatever? Because
I'd seen the high check on a on a credit
card or debit card and thought, man, that's you know,
I don't see that much. And come to find out
his brother worked at an auto plant not twenty five
minutes from me, and it possibly could have been him,

(01:59:43):
I mean, which I don't know for sure, but that
was kind of wild, like, oh wait he worked at.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
It was a Saturn plant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
he was. He He's the one that designed all of
the assembly line, the artificial intelligence assembly lines. That was
is the first plant in the world to use the AI.

Speaker 6 (02:00:02):
Yeah, and I know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
That a form of crude AI.

Speaker 6 (02:00:05):
One of my buddies. Uh, his dad, he designed the
paint department, so they had to work together. I mean
you would think so. I just I just wish we
could go back in time, you know, a little bit.
But it's it's odd, Uh, Chris, do you find does
that happen to you or Barnaby? Like you will go
somewhere just on a whim and bump into somebody you

(02:00:27):
know or somebody that you know that you had no clue.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
Well, don't you feel we were supposed to meet? Chris?

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Yeah, A bunch of people. Now I've I've come to
that realization that it was bound to happen. You know,
the wait Doug and I met, he did my show,
and then I said something, you know, my my bucket
list was snow girl. He goes, well, let's go. I'm like, well,
don't tell me, let's go, because I'm going to go.
He goes, no, seriously, let's go. And that was that
was that was it. We went, and then we went

(02:00:56):
in next year again, and we talk all the time
and come good friends. And never in a million years,
I'm watching Monster Quests. You know, way back when you
used to watch it. Would I ever guess that I
have dogs were on my phone and I could call
him whenever just to say hi and talk about family
stuff or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
Yeah, I know that what you mean, it's like, yeah, wow,
Doug Hijack's calling me.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
That's yeah, yeah, we're not going to deal, Doug.

Speaker 6 (02:01:21):
Kind of a big deal. Yeah, I mean, oh yeah,
I felt the same way. I'm like, you know, y'all
know how that happened.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
That's exactly how I felt when I was scraping grease
off and engine.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Today, I gotta go. I got a turkey to cook
tomorrow morning, and stuff and then Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:01:41):
Yeah, I got to check out pretty quick too.

Speaker 6 (02:01:42):
Yeah, this would be a good place to end it. Uh,
thank y'all for coming on. I appreciate everything y'all done,
everything you'll do and chat. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
Oh, I got to mention. I got to mention Barnaby.
I met you by a coincidence too.

Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
I was gonna say, uh, I was so excited to
see that we were both at the same event together.
We were at the Minnesota Pair Unity Convention. I got
the big banner from my sign up there, and it
was it was really cool meeting you. Was so nice
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
He was like the friendliest guy and he just kept
over and coming over and coming over to talk to me,
and I'm like, man, this guy's nice. And then he
had this name and then anyhow, there we are, right.

Speaker 8 (02:02:23):
Do you do you remember the thing that stands out
even more beyond that is that across from you was
Lauren Coleman. Yeah, and it was you told me it
was the first time you ever met Laura.

Speaker 3 (02:02:34):
I had never met Lauren.

Speaker 8 (02:02:35):
I have I have pictures from my booth of the
two of you standing over there talking because it was
so cool to say, like, you know, Lauren Coleman is
such a big name in the industry and stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
You know that you know.

Speaker 8 (02:02:46):
And then here's Doug Hychek, who I grew up watching
Monster Quest and yeah, and the fact that you two
had never met, I'm like, oh, this is this is historic.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Well, we had talked on the phone for you know,
thirty years, but we had never met in person. Yeah,
you know, he lives on the other side.

Speaker 8 (02:03:03):
It's like, I can't believe it. I'm like, he was
on Monster Quest. How did you never meet him?

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
Oh? Yeah, I never met him? No, yeah, but anyhow,
so I met Barnaby by accident too, And I don't
remember how we met Roger.

Speaker 6 (02:03:16):
I remember that guy sitting right there with the blue
behind him around the heart.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
Oh, that's right. And I never give Chris credit, right,
I never give you credit. It was Chris Ryinhart. Thank you.
So it wouldn't have been for the coincidence with Chris,
I wouldn't have led to the coincidence with you. And
I can say you guys have both enhanced my life greatly,

(02:03:43):
so I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:03:44):
Well, I want to do a Thanksgiving show so we
can all give thanks. But you know, that's kind of
what we've been doing. H not officially, but just thank
you to everybody. I mean, I appreciate having connection with
you guys. If I run up on something, I sent
Doug a wild picture today. I don't know what it is,

(02:04:05):
or we don't know what it is, but Chris scared.
It's scared me and we left. But to y'all, everybody,
have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow and enjoy your family. Be safe,
and just check out check out some of the shows.
Now you know Barnaby, he's got you lunch time covered.

(02:04:26):
So Chris, you got Tuesdays. We don't know Doug and Jeff,
they're all over the place. So I'm getting there on Sundays.

Speaker 4 (02:04:33):
Now, Please pet and chat. Everyone to participate, just dive in.
You don't got to be afraid. Just make a comment,
ask a question. We love having the questions. We love it.

Speaker 6 (02:04:42):
So Hillary stays on me here she said, you cooking
that country ham, y'all. I found a country ham in
a cabinet that's been there like three years. I didn't
know what was in there, and it's still good. And
yes I am. I'm putting it in some green beans.
So there you go. You're from West Virginia, so you know,
you know about that, but yeah, it's and you know,

(02:05:04):
I wanted a lighthearted show and to get get to
know each other a little better.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
Fun.

Speaker 6 (02:05:09):
Yeah, it's been fun. I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
Good show, good good idea. Roger, I just let it
at it. One more thing about Doug. Doug makes the
strongest cup of coffee you'll ever drink in your entire life.
First cup of coffee you ever made for me. I
laps around his house. How can you drink this stuff?
No wonder you're up all night for?

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
Oh my god? Isn't it funny the different perspectives people have.
I didn't.

Speaker 9 (02:05:38):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:05:38):
I don't think that. But that's good.

Speaker 6 (02:05:41):
My mom made the strongest team. She still does. I mean,
if you if you go, you have to like not
to offend her. You go over there and you pour
you half a cup of coffee and put a little
water in it. You know, it's like it's like blacker
than black.

Speaker 4 (02:05:54):
But my Grandma't coffee was like that too.

Speaker 6 (02:05:57):
Yeah. One of my buddies told me. He said, I
you know the way I check see if it's too strong,
He said, if the spoon stands up I won't drink it.
Other than that, I'm good. All right, y'all. Thank you guys,
Jeff and Chris.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
What a great group you have.

Speaker 4 (02:06:20):
In chat Roger, Oh yeah, the best.

Speaker 6 (02:06:24):
Yeah, they're they're They're one of the reasons we do this.
And ask me, you know when we were talking that
that initial phone call is why are you doing this?
I'm like, basically to get the truth out there and
to learn more of it. So y'allre on this journey
with us, and we we appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
Yeah, every Thanksgiving, good night, good night.
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