Squatchin' Holler #5 Born Into Bigfoot: The Quest for Truth with Travis Carpenter

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, are we live, y'all? We're live. What happened to
the intro?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't know? Well, here we are. I guess we're
running it without the intro today.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Let's uh, let's back up and show the intro. Let
people get in here. It's it's it's loaded, But we're running.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
A Welcome to Squatch and holler.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
In the midst where the trees lean. Squatching Holler's gotta
tell the show. Wisps creep like a creature's faded out.
Every shadows got a secret to grow?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Monsters rise?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Where the stories are told?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Squatching hollow where the legends are born?

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Are they? Are they gone? Who can say? In the
hollow of the truth just slips away.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Huge footprints fade where the creek runs them.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
A lantern sways, let.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
The search being rustling leaves, but there's no one there.
He is in the wind, the beast you fear. Every
e goes, question, every.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Russell's a clue.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Squatching hollis got its size on you. Monsters stories are told,
Squatching How where the legends are bored? Holly hoy gone?

Speaker 6 (02:20):
You can say, And now with your Squatching Holler, Hosts
Roger Williams Amanda Stowers and Ashley Range remembers this podcast

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can be downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found. And now
the show.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey everybody, how we doing?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We are good? How are you tonight? Now that we've
got our official introduction.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
In oh man, look who's here? So yeah, so uh,
Travis was going to be a little late, but he's here.
But I want to read something. I want to do
our our first hollermail, and y'all that I want to
send in an email. This one was the first one

(03:20):
I ever received and a lady had, you know, like
we all do, uh have an experience and you look
up the state. Well she lives in Florida now and
I never got a chance to read it. So we're
gonna we're going to do We're gonna try this with
no editing. And if you all want to send send

(03:41):
us some I know some of you have, but this
this is what we're how we're going to do it.
So uh. She she tells me her name, but she
doesn't want you, so we just call her d. She said,
I'm legally blind now, so I use a vision device
and in voice to hype. So if there are a
lot of mistakes, I apologize. She said, I have a

(04:03):
Marshall County, Tennessee story for you. I lived in Marshall County, Tennessee.
I believed we arrived in about nineteen seventy one. We
bought a house in Belfast. I was not blind then,
I was a healthy young girl. I cannot tell you
all the locations, as I didn't drive yet, but I
can't explain the places. First off, let me tell you

(04:23):
that I adored Belfast, Tennessee, and would come back if
I could afford it, but rent seems so high. I
live in North Florida, Florida now and really would like
to move because the town I live in here is
so small that have no resources for me. And then
she goes on, she said, I understand that Louisbourg has
really grown since I was there. The house we lived
in was one hundred and three years old when we

(04:45):
moved in, and it proved to be haunted. But that's
not the highlight of my experiences there. I never saw
sasquatch with my own eyes, but my daddy kept finding
the clumps of cinnamon colored hair stuck on an electric
fence and the barbar around the place. He also found
very large barefoot tracks. He became convinced that our property

(05:06):
sat between two main roads. That how they sat between
two main roads, one a highway. It was a drifter
maybe living down by the creek. After that, I was
not allowed to play down there. That was on our property.
We had thirty three acres. I saw the hair myself,
and I would tell my daddy when I found it.
I saw impressions that were very large, but I did

(05:28):
not see the one that my daddy reported with toes
that was in the mud by the creek. He chalked
the hair up to some wild animal that was roaming
the place, but he figured somebody had come off the
highway and just living there. My daddy said the footprint
by the creek was double the size of his foot.
Then one day my dad come home after being on
the tractor before breakfast doing the cow chores. It was winter,

(05:50):
and the look on his face scared us all. My
daddy was tough as nails, so to see a look
on his face that look alarmed us. We asked him
what was wrong, and he didn't say a word. He
filled his coffee cup up, lit a cigarette, and put
his head down and waited for my Mama to fix
his plate. He refused to talk about it, and after

(06:11):
that point I wasn't allowed to play in the woods
anymore either. He never did talk about it, but I
believe he saw it, saw what was making the track.
After that, I was only allowed to play in the
open field and go down one lane on my bike
to get the mail and play in the play in
the dooryard. So it was probably the front yard of
the house. The kids at school, one in particular that

(06:33):
I don't know if they're still alive or not. Who
is my friend. I will not bring up her name.
They lived up higher and you had to take my
dad's big truck to cross the creek and get to
the steep path. Those kids that lived up there talked
about some sort of hairy man, but that's not where
it ends. Some weird stuff went on the property. Liked
some throwing rocks at my daddy while he was running

(06:54):
the tractor, which I got blamed for, and I had
to pick up all the rocks in the field he
was trying to plow and which I didn't throw them. Oh,
and the only other evidence I had experienced was the
howling I heard it in the woods at night behind
the barn, in the direction of the creek where the
woods were. We would sometimes sit on the porch at
night and listen. So she goes on to say she

(07:16):
did see some UFO activity and she was just wanting
to get that story out, like a lot of us,
you know, have done, and that's what these shows are
really for, to kind of like a therapy. So I'm
glad she sent that. I'm glad I finally got a
chance to read it. I had to dig deep into
the emails. So y'all, y'all have her emails, send them

(07:39):
to us, and we'll, uh, we'll do that again. I'll
let I'll let one of the ladies read the next one,
so it won't be a lot of UZ and AU
and all that.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So hopefully I can get hopefully i'll get something in
that I can actually share publicly. I've gotten quite a
few things, but out of respect for the for the witness,
they've asked to remain anonymous or to not have it
shared with anybody, which is pretty typical for people who
share this stuff. So maybe hopefully that'll that'll happen, and

(08:07):
we'll keep it.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
We'll keep it quiet, you know, we won't we won't
give your name, but if you want us to, that's fine. So, ladies,
tonight we got t carp Travis Carpenter, and a lot
of y'all probably heard his name. I heard his dad's
name years ago. Uh when the internet came along, and

(08:30):
I was wondering, you know, if anybody else in Tennessee
seen a bigfoot? You know, because I wasn't talking about it. Then,
so what you do if whatever state you're in, you know,
does Alabama have big foot? This Tennessee. And this gentleman
popped up and he's actually doing boots on the ground.
I thought, oh, how cool? And it happened to be
Scott Carpenter, and uh I was. I was watching his

(08:53):
videos and it just made me feel so so great
that somebody else had experienced this thing. So, uh, well,
we'll bring Travis in uh here, and we appreciate him
coming in because I know he had a meeting. Let's
add him to the stage.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
What's up, buddy, how's everybody doing today? Good? Thank you
for joining us, absolutely, thank you for letting me join.
My goodness, the pleasure is all mine.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, hey, you know, I just told that little story
just to let everybody know, and you know that we
we have to we have to realize what we might
mean to somebody else just telling our stories or allowing
them to send emails or whatever. And you and your
dad was one of those guys, one of those guys.
And I forgot how I watched like the best of

(09:42):
the other day, that was the recent one, and I
liked his attitude. I think that's what drew a lot
of people to him. But how you been doing. I
know you stopped by Tony Merkles.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, we had a really good time, so me, Tony Merkle,
John Pounders, Brian from Visual Disturbance, and some other really
cool dudes that you haven't heard of just yet, but
you will soon. We all got to hang out and

(10:17):
just kind of meet so, uh, John Pounders and uh
and all of them had that had Spiracy Coon up
in Casas City, Kentucky. Well they also had a conference
here in Lenore City. And Roger, you know, you being
from uh, you know, East Tennessee, kind of know where

(10:37):
that is. Uh, Amanda you may know where that is.
And Ashley, I know you're in Washington, the token Yank Yeah, yeah, good, she's.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
West of the Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
So Hey, I've never been west of Mississippi. I don't
even they they say it's out there. It's kind of like, uh,
it's it's it's the moon. For me, it's just way
out there. I just don't know if it exists.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, you'll love it.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I I can't wait to actually travel out that way.
But but we were all up in Cave City, Kentucky,
and they found themselves, uh in East Tennessee the weekend
after uh John John wanted to meet up with with
Tony and and we got to sitting and talking and

(11:25):
and and hanging out, and uh, it was really really cool.
We actually didn't film anything that day, we were in studio,
but we all just sat and talked. And I think
that in this in the sphere, I mean Roger, you know,
you and I talked to each other yesterday, and to
be honest with you, it was just cool to just talk,

(11:46):
you know, just not not not turn the camera on
and just be for a little bit. And I think that, uh,
it was just nice to talk with some dudes and
talk about uh, talk about life, talk about God, talk
about paranormal stuff and and just just be for a

(12:08):
little bit. And that's genuinely all we did. We didn't
really talk a lot of oh, will we'll do this,
so we'll do that. It was more or less just
hey man, how you doing talk to me? And it
was it was the cool. It was just so cool.
It was so cool. And you can always tell, you know,
people that they want to meet you for what you

(12:30):
can do for them, and those two guys, it was
more or less like, hey, we just want to hang
and it was really cool.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And we we have a group of video call that
that we do sometimes with a lot of people in chat.
We've become friends, and uh, we don't get together and
talk about boogers. Just like you said, life stuff. I forgot.
I've forgotten how good it felt to laugh and just
be just be a guy, you know, and and I
know the ladies they get together and they talk and

(13:00):
it it it's nice to have people like that. We
get so immersed in the subject a lot of times
that we forget to do that. And uh, and what's
great is when you hang around a lot of people
that know they exist, so there's not a ton of
questions or whatever, and you're just getting to know each
other and that builds trust. You know. So that's the

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most important thing is the fellowship.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
It did, it built, It built a lot of trust,
It built a lot of man They gave a lot
of great advice because there there's things in this this
community that you have to you know, you know, I
hate to be this way that like I know we're
here talking about a bigfoot stuff. There's but there's a
lot of folks that, you know, they want to talk

(13:48):
to you, and they want to love on you, and
you want to love on them and and and and
take care of them. But there's some folks that also
they hide their mental health uh issues in the conspiracy realm,
and and you want to and again you want to
love on them, to be there for him. But sometimes

(14:08):
it's just you can't be everything for everybody. And that's
that's a hard thing too, is you know. And you
guys will you guys will realize this, you know, Amanda,
I'm sure there's some a lot of folks that see
you on TikTok and they come to see you at
the museum and it's like they genuinely want to have
an experience with you. And it's like and it's like

(14:30):
they think they know you and you I'm sure you
understand that it's a cool Really.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's really odd for somebody who's definitely not used to
being in the limelights of people coming and like oh
yeah I'm watching on TV or I seen you on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's literally that's literally the way
I feel. It's like, uh, hi, you know, and it's
it's it's not that I don't want that experience. I
want to genuinely do and I'm excited, but it's like, uh,
like that nervousness, like uh, what do I say now?

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Is?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
What do I say?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Just regular old me or a.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
But that's that's the thing. It's like, do I have
to be Do I have to be Travis that you
see on YouTube? Or do I get to be like
Travis that we can sit and talk about, yeah, you know,
talk about Tennessee, you know, you know some stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm weird way Till you're in another state and people
walk by you don't know and say hi to your
dog and call them by name.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
That's that that gets that gets that could that could
probably wig y out a little bit wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
A little creepy.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
That happened to us and it ended up being some
very nice folks. We become friends and stuff, but it
was so weird, like because we had to meet and greet. Uh,
we say, we have those things to meet y'all, you know,
and oh yeah, y'all and get to know you and
and it does get to be like a family thing,
but it is very weird at first. And I know,

(15:59):
you know you went through something similar that I did.
But I was working for the Tennessee Lottery and my
dad had worked there ten years prior and he retired, well,
had like one hundred and fifteen stores, and you know,
he was sick and he didn't have much, you know,
long ago, and everybody kept every time I went to
the story, everybody's asking about him. Even after he passed,
everybody's asking about him. And it wore on me. And

(16:20):
you're born into this and and then you know that
that had to be a tough situation because you know
people they mean well. But we talked about that it
takes a while to get get ready for it.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I guess, yes, And it is something that like I'm
training and learning from these guys on how to do
it properly, because if I'm given this responsibility, I need
to take it seriously, and I need to take it.
And I'm saying I'm not, but I need to take

(16:57):
that mantle of Hey, I have the responsibility to not
only care about my people love on them the best
way I physically and emotionally can, but I also have
a responsibility to tell the truth and not hide anything
from them. So and that's one of the biggest things that,
you know, I feel like my dad did an amazing

(17:18):
job of is is not like not hiding anything if
he felt a certain way where it's like, hey, I
feel in like this thing's this way and and this
like they called they called Dad a loon for years
because he talked about dog Man. He talked about portals.
And we're going to get way into the weeds with

(17:40):
this podcast. Everyone's like Bigfoot and you know dog Man portals.
Oh gosh, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just for us. Yeah, exactly topics And to be.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
One of the first you have to be so brave,
you know, to do that. And I was stunned when
I'm like, there's actually the people that are hunting these
things or whatever, and I thought, well, that would be cool.
Well maybe it wouldn't, you know, because you're on that
like be careful with you.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's yeah, yes, uh yeah, be careful, be careful what
you asked for. Definitely, it's it's uh, you know, you
you start, you know, and dad, if you uh, if
you start earnestly seeking these things out, I mean, I'm
I'm getting to the meat and potatoes here in the

(18:29):
first ten minutes. You start earnestly seeking these things out,
you give them spiritual permission to go seek you out.
And then it gets weird and we you know, you know,
we I want Bigfoot to be you know, uh, bipedal ape.
I want it to be like a cool thing. I really,
because it would be so super cool if it were

(18:51):
this cool bipedal ape or something like that, where it's
like the Lost Keeper of the Woods or something. And
it's unfortunately it's not that pretty. It's not that not
that cute in the box. And what happens with this
is people will go out and they'll go squatching, and

(19:11):
you know, they'll do all that stuff, and they'll invite
things that they don't necessarily want to come back and
to seek them out, I would how.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
To navigate when they do run into something.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's the thing they don't know how to navigate it,
or they see something that shouldn't exist and they have
PTSD from it because it's like, Okay, we see a bear,
we see a fox, we see a big o' moose,
and those are scary things, but we already have it
on our brain that these things exist, no big deal.
But what happens when we see a bigfoot? What happens

(19:46):
when we genuinely we genuinely see a dog man something
that like a flipping werewolf thing, Like what happens when
we see that? And then we see the flies and
the gnats around it, and we see like the skin
and the hair and all these things, and the muscles.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Struminosity in the face, the stories of hunters not being
able to confront them because it's it's two yes, human,
your whole your whole world paradigpe can just flip right
and then and then you have and then you have
to figure out it's like, okay, what is true and
what isn't and if the if the government hasn't alexa hush, sorry, that's.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
As you go.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
As you got the speaker's.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Funny, Well, let me go turn it off real quick.
Let me we'll get bugged, but let me I can
still talk. I can still talking a walk with these
great headphones.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well you're good. You you hit the nail on the head.
I mean, that's what happened to me. And it makes
you question everything from then on. You know. Yeh're telling
me we're so far We say this all the time.
We're so far past do they exist or not? We're
not where about that. We're worried about maybe what they are.
How that you know, you know, I don't know. We're

(21:05):
trying to learn.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Contr That's that's a big thing. There's there's some definite,
definite things, uh like who's controlling them? What's going on?
You know all that stuff. If you guys haven't seen,
this is my co pilot. He's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
So I want to treat Daddy.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
No, he he can be on the inn. That's all
he wants. He's a good boy. He's done with me now,
but he uh but yes, it's like that was where
Dad was getting to with this, because you know, you'll
have the the footprints, and the footprints are awesome, and

(21:47):
we'll have the hair and the hair is awesome, and
you'll see the wooden knocks and the people you know,
you know, you know, I know this is called Squatch
and Holler, and that's there's nothing wrong with that, but
you know, we'll do the woops and all that, but
we're so far past that that it's like, you know,
we're doing infrared cameras and back trail cameras and we're

(22:07):
taking and we have the DNA samples, and then we
know that they do X and Y, and we know
that they they you know, he could do so many
other different things with.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
It, well, in things we can't even comprehend. I mean,
I get asked now that I'm kind of being more
involved in Squatch and Holler, because not only am I
the token uh yank, I'm also the token Nessy enthusiast
in a.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I want to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
Okay, absolutely, but no, no, But I thought I've had
similar comments towards NeSSI, where it's like, yes, in my
heart of hearts, I want her to be this disneyesque,
family friendly, pleaseeosaur type thing because because that's what feels good, right,
that's what we want, and the thought of it being

(22:59):
anything else is kind of scary. And I think when
it comes to Sadsquatch, like the number one thing I
get asked a lot is oh well, as you were Afra.
It's not necessarily asked, but brought up is oh well,
somebody would have shot one by now, and it would
be like, okay, well, that's a big assumption on your
part that people haven't shot these things, or that they
haven't taken samples and that or even if we did that,

(23:23):
it would somehow magically go public and it would just
be this world breaking thing. No, that's not the it's
absolutely not the world we live in. And it's like
you can't have your cake and eat it too. You
can't say, oh, well, they would never do this and
that right, get mad that, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
And another thing, I feel it's important for all of
us to talk from all over the country and all
over the world because what they do in this hall
over here may not be what they do too stay
to wait, you know, there may be differences. And you
you brought up a good point. People are now MF readings,
uh thermal cameras. Now we're seeing other things like that's

(24:05):
blowing our minds and getting it on film.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
That running data through AI, I mean stuff we haven't
even begin to tap yet.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
And it's it's one of these subjects I tell people,
I can't have a fifty year conversation in three minutes.
But it's it's the more you learn and you know this,
all y'all know this, the more the more we don't know,
and it can it can grip you, and it can
you can overload on it. And I worry about people that,

(24:39):
like you said, they go in the woods, they see
a TV show or here's somebody like us, you know,
talking about it, and go get hurt. The people that
lived with these things, that's one of their number one goals.
They've seen what they can do, what they're capable of,
so they don't and pet, why don't you tell me
where I can go see one at They don't want

(24:59):
to be respond for the person getting hurt, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
So that that's a really well put Roger. They're the
people that, like you said, that live with these things
or are cohabitating, I say cohabitating, but they know about them,
and they they they have this thing. It's like most
people like and Ashley probably in Washington, it's probably I
have heard that it's there's some places out there, some

(25:25):
counties where it's like it's part of like, yeah, these
dag on Bigfoot they got it in the apples again. Know,
they're messing around the house and get it like like
they talk about them like they're deer like like like
it's just it's just like no big deal to them.
They get they just are they're annoyed by them almost.
It's it's a nuisance thing.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And even here you hear people say, you know, hey,
my granddad planted an extra garden just for the boogers
to keep them away from the house, you know. So yeah,
it's it's pretty amazing how far we've come to where
we can have this discussion without uh causing the stir.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
So it's also I'm just to the point where I
don't care what people think of me.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I think that's I think that's where we have to
be in this is That was a part of the
conversation last night, is you know, you love on your
folks that comment and you love on the folks that
you're your fans, but when it comes to the haters,
you just don't care. It's like, hey, I'm going to
I'm going to tell you the truth and you can

(26:24):
decide whether or not you want to deal with that
or not. Like here's truth and just honestly, and.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You have no power. I'm sorry over Roger, Ashley, Travis
or Amanda because you make up your own mind. We
know what we know because we've seen things and had
experiences and whatever, so you can't talk us out of it.
So anyway, sorry Ashley.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
No, no, no, I was just going to say, too,
It's like, I want to tread kind of very carefully
about this because I love what we're doing. I love
the topics. I've said this a thousand times, especially between
amand and I, like we would be doing this no
matter what, talking about these things that have fascinated us
since we were little girls, having our own experiences finding

(27:09):
each other later in life a decade ago. We've been
friends that long. But I will say just vulnerably that
there is bliss and ignorance. There's some things I wish
that I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I agree. I know we've had that conversation multiple times
that you know, we almost kind of wish sometimes that
we could go back to where we didn't know the
true truth about all this. Yeah, please cut into us.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
No, No, that's so good, because I was literally, I really, man,
have you got I really can? I read this blog
post and all that my dad wrote about, Yes, this
very thing. So he wrote this, this poem or basically
this blog post in November of twenty thirteen, and it

(28:00):
literally talks about this. He's called the Loss of Innocence
advice to expiring Bigfoot researchers. The days are the days
are no more. The wilderness has lost its wonder It
is no longer a place of peace and serenity. It
all changed for me on a sunny June day in

(28:20):
two thousand and nine, while fishing, I was casting on
a point of land that was a part of a
public recreation area. I made some silly sounding whoops and
just messing around, imitating what I had watched in a
YouTube video. Then the most amazing thing happened. Happens. Something
came tearing down through the woods. It was breaking limbs
and crashing around in a thick underbrush. My jobs dropped

(28:43):
as I was in shock. As I stared at the shoreline.
It stayed back in the shadows and I could only
catch glimpses of sunlight on it. From time to time,
it acted like it was looking for something. It would
go up the bank to the right, then the left.
While this was going on, I was fumbling with the
trolling motor, trying to put some distance between it and me.

(29:05):
After a couple of minutes, I heard a very clear
hm three or four steps. Then I heard it walk
back into the woods, slowly until it was out of range.
It took me several minutes to compose myself as I
sat down at the bottom of my fishing boat. This
event would change everything. I had to find out what
I had made this noise. Even though I had a

(29:26):
siding when I was a child, this event was the catalyst.
This event started me on this journey or this quest
for truth. Over the past three years, I had seen
and experienced things that were and are unbelievable. The average
person has no idea what is going on in the wilderness,

(29:46):
and I can no longer go into the woods in
a state of the quote ignorant bliss and just enjoy it.
I know, go ahead, Sorry, it's a long one.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
No, No, you're right. I mean that strikes home to
me because we as kids would go at night and
and and be in the woods. We would we would
enjoy the woods. Now my head is on a swivel
because you feel responsible for whoever's with you. You know, so
anyway continue.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
No, no, no, no, You're fine. You're fine. Basically that
you know. It's a little bit longer. But basically he
talks about he's like he can't just go out and
enjoy it anymore. He says, they know what. I know
what is out there, I know what is watching and
lurking in the shadows. I still do enjoy being out,
but it's just different now. But basically, basically, he's like,

(30:42):
it comes down to this. I'm gonna read the final
couple things. He says, Finally, I have one more wanting
to you. With knowing the truth comes responsibility. What do
you tell a woman that calls you who is all
excited about researching bigfoot and loves to go out into
the woods all by herself when you see that child
has gone missing in a wilderness area? Uh, you will

(31:05):
wonder when? When? When phone calls come from scared people
who have had bigfoot habitation around their home, what do
you tell them? When you talk to a person that
has just had an encounter and they called you because
you're the local bigfoot researcher, what do you tell them?
What are you going to say to calm their nerves?

(31:26):
How are you going to reassure them that it's all okay,
that they're not crazy and what they saw is real.
Some who research seek an anatimity to avoid the above,
but it will be difficult if you choose to go
this route. You will be faced with choices to speak
out or be silent, and there are consequences to both decisions.

(31:49):
So that's Dad's warning to folks that you know that
that wanted that are in this realm. But somebody, you know,
some people like I said, I didn't ask to be here.
Here we are. You know, there's content, but it's just
consequences of knowing.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Was there was there a point where maybe y'all enjoyed
the woods and then after he learned the truth that
he wouldn't take you with him or anything like that,
did he change at all?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
For a little bit, it changed, But then we made
the decision that we made the decision that we weren't
going to be afraid of them anymore. There was a
time I went hunting, and I'll tell this story. I
haven't told it a bunch, So I uh, the area

(32:38):
that Dad is buried on Morganton Cemetery, it's a it's
a thousand acre wildlife area and it's hunting, its horseback trails, uh,
squirrel hunting, deer hunting, all that stuff. It's it's super cool.
And I found myself way out on this point. It's

(33:00):
about three or four miles out to the end of it,
and there's some there's some farmers fields, and I was
stalking a dough and of course I scared it off
like a dummy that I was. And then I start, well,
i'd better head back. Well, I was stalking it. You
know Roger about you know, six thirty at at night. Well,
I wasn't thinking. I had to walk three miles out.

(33:21):
And about the seven o'clock I realized I had done
screwed up, because I mean pitch black. I had a
pin light with me and that was it. And I
called that. I said, Dad, I'm scared to death. So
where it was is where we walked this down this
trail and they cut this. They cut this pipeline trail

(33:46):
basically to just keep the pipeline clear. But the sides
of it they'd let grow up a little bit. Well
if they you know, a year's worth of growth is
up to your head. So I'm walking, I'm walking down
this trail and I've got you know, it's it's right
to my shoulders. This stuff's touching me and it's just
right there and it's pitch black, and you talk about

(34:07):
as scared as I could be, because I'm like, I'm
in bigfoot dog man country, like I know, And so
I'm calling Dad and Dad's basically said, it's like Travis,
you know, just you know, greater is he that is
in me, that heathen is in the world. And just
then I said that for an hour and a half
walking out. Yes, I said that for an hour and

(34:28):
a half walking out, And you talk about you know now,
and you talk about getting getting the Royal Escort out.
You know, you could feel them. You could feel them
right to the right and to the let like you
know how they don't walk exactly to the side of you.
They'll walk like that forty five degree angle like you
can hear that like that. But that I got out

(34:51):
of there. But at that point I was like, you
know what, if nothing's going to happen, then when it's real,
when I mean when they have every chance in the
world with it, especially.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Since in your fear there's a lot I feel like
because here's the thing. We've and I've said this, We've
all said this in some way or another on this show.
Not everything in the Woods is Bigfoot. We don't actually
know everything that's in there, whether it's bigfoot, dog men
and my neck. In the woods we have goat man

(35:22):
and all sorts of cryptids and batsquatch and all sorts
of things. I kind of like, you hope it's a
big foot, because that's like the least of your problems.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Right, that's deal with Yeah, right, But I.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Have to say just I want to just in no
particular order, I just before I lose my track of focus.
First of all, your father was very well spoken. That
was very well written. Thank you so much for sharing
not only with us but with the internet. That was
very special and thank you. I think those are especially

(35:57):
now with and I say this with the man all
the time, I personally feel like the veil is tearing.
And it's not that there's not too many people that
make fun of me anymore for this kind of stuff,
because everyone either is having an experience or has somebody
in their life that they love and trust having experiences,
and it's becoming more and more real. So as Roger

(36:18):
has said multiple times, this is why we talk about it.
And I also just want to publicly applaud you on
your faith and how I think so many of these
as you squatters whatever people get out there and they're
excited to go find, you know, a critter, and they're
not prepared. And we're not just talking equipment. I think
you have to armor up in not only your every

(36:40):
day but if especially if you're going to go look
for these things. Amen, it's I think people need to
know that that that's the number one thing that you
can have. And I'm not trying to push my faith
on anybody by any means, but it's again, ignorance is
bliss the more the more you go down this rabbit hole,
it's there's so much we don't understand.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
What what was.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Your dad's How did he feel about some people thinking
that some some folks are chosen or tagged or whatever.
Like once you see something and you because I've been
told stories where there's been uh, we've talked about the
face emotion or shock or wonder in this this creature

(37:27):
and you know when two a person and one walks
up on each other or whatever and they're just as
shocked as the person. So when you when you've become
a knower, for lack of a better word, I've heard that.
I've heard people.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Say what most people usually use now.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, it's like once you've seen them and the either
the veil is broken or the secret is out, like
you tend to see more things. Did he did he
have an opinion on that?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah? Absolutely, U. The way he thought about it is
like the way he said is they know that you know,
and you like, there's a weird thing there. He was.
He definitely believed in that connection, you know, And he
he would say, you know, it's like they know that
you they know that you figured it out. They know
that you know, and he would I don't know if

(38:20):
like the whole chosen thing. I I think that I don't.
I don't know why, but I think that for some
reason they picked Dad out and and they may they
chose I don't chose such a bad word. I don't
know how to say it better. But but he.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Maybe well, because I was thinking while you were reading that,
and Ashley touched on it. He was the perfect person
for this. But I do think he could get the
thoughts out and and and put it in words where
maybe some others much better than.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Me, Yeah, much better than that. He was. He did
such a good job of saying it in Layman's terms
gently for folks. And and the way he put it
is he said, you know, if God had kind of
given him the download immediately, I don't think he said,

(39:19):
he wouldn't have been able to handle it, right, you know,
But now that you know now that it was a
slow build, it was a slow burden, It's like, Okay,
these things exist. Not only do these things exist, they're intelligent. Well,
if they're intelligent, what does that mean, Oh, they're a
human hybrid. Then there's more things out there like dog

(39:40):
man orbs, just so many other things that Dad caught
on camera. And then it builds upon itself and then
it leads into Okay, then then you have this and
this and this, and then you know, I guess said
it like Ashley, you said it so well. It's I'm
not trying to push my faith, but at the same time,

(40:01):
everybody has to understand where my worldview comes from. I'm
a Christian, I have a biblical worldview, and and all
of that, all of the things that I see are
going to be filtered through that lens through that worldview,
just like my dad said. And so if I have
that worldview, like I'm going to have that explanation for

(40:23):
all these creatures, and I'm going to have that biblical
explanation for that as well. So I try not to
try not to push that on people, like you said,
but at the same time, I kind of.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Am, Yeah, I feel you. I'm kind of the same
boat with that as well said I don't, you know,
try to push it in people's faces, but I'm very
open that that that is my faith in my understanding.
But yeah, also I have to look at it playing
devil's advocate too.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
That's the where our mindset and stuff, where we're trying
to come to understanding with something that is supposed to
be more or less ununderstandable or something that isn't supposed
to exist. So you have these people out here who
are looking at it from a flesh and blood standpoint,
trying to look at let letting science try to explain
these things. And that's okay, that's where their mind is at.

(41:16):
And so if we can get past the the egos
and the people getting for lack of better word, but
but heard about stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's my favorite word. Favorite word. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
And if we can get people on both sides to
come together and just have conversations like this, you would
be surprised how many times we all actually have a
lot of the same thoughts and ideas. And is it
not more pieces to the puzzles?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Well, is it not amazing that you start peeling those
layers of the onion back? Like I told Travis, I
was watching his dad back in the day, I wasn't
ready for what he was saying. Now I'm ready for
it because I've I've advanced and peeled those layers back.
And the more you peel back, the more truth. And

(42:03):
it does lead back to your faith, you know what
I mean. So it's it's like a confirmation in your
and and it's so weird that that that I did
not expect that at all.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
So yeah, and I think I think that that too
is you know, and I understand what I say is
very like it is absolutely bizarre and crazy to people
like I understand that. It's like whoa Like, you know,
I I'll still get the questions do Bigfoot exists? And

(42:35):
I'm like, uh, like that tree exists over there? Yeah? Absolutely,
you know, it's kind of like.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
It does exist.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, so so I you know, I'll get that.
But and I understand that there are people that are
not ready to hear what I have to say. But
when they are, I'm here for you. I got some
really cool stuff I can I can tell you some
insane stuff. I can prove scientifically that not only Bigfoot exists,

(43:07):
but but it's a heck of a lot stranger than
you ever thought. And and you know, but also at
the same time is I do think that pop culture
has pushed this agenda too. I do believe what whatever
in pop culture that makes them have to tell us

(43:27):
the truth and kind of hide it in plain sight whatever.
That is.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Kind of like Da Vinci back in the day, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
They they tell.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
You what the devil's greatest lie was, convincing the world
he doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, with and and with I know, with
a lot of these folks, I believe it's you know,
they believe you have to tell like they believe in karma.
So there their karma is is they have to let
you know what's happening. Then you're actually not like lying
to them, and it's actually it's super weird. But but

(44:06):
that's what they believe, man, And they they tell you,
they tell you all this stuff. And I would look
at the movies like Splice and and things like that,
and it's like, that's what we're seeing with the bigfoot now?
Or or are these cryptids now? The great the big question
is is is it a spiritual thing that's happening or

(44:28):
is it like governmental thing or both? Ye like like
so a lot of people will be like, well, Travis,
you know, this really sounds like a nephilum and that's
what Dad talked about. He wrote a book about it.
And then it's like, well, if if you know the net,
if their nephil them, could they be like government? And

(44:49):
I'm like, absolutely, what's the what what's a bigfoot? A
bigfoot is the best super soldier you've ever seen, Like
ten foot twelve foot tall dude that can that can
live in the woods, doesn't have to you know, doesn't
need any physical thing, can hide from anybody, and uh

(45:10):
and as strong as you've ever seen. You know, we
talk about you know, Captain America. You know, a bigfoots
for Captain America's on steroids. Yeah, so you know as.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
A huge Captain America fan. I approve of their reference.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
There you go there, and and the thing I love.
I love the way you're putting things too. It's just
like we're sitting around the fire talking and and and
people get wrapped up into I've gotta I've got to
tell the scientific this and that, and I got to
break it down or pick Look, y'all, regular people are
saying these things. So we we we talk about regular
people and and put to put it in that.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
That's because we are just regular people exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And how people say, well, you don't you're not serious enough.
I'm like, you don't even know, you don't understand what
we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
What you like.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
It's like it's a podcast, not a funeral.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
People right right up.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
And I listened to I'll listen to Travis. I'll listened
to Amanda and Ashley and my Native American friends. I've learned,
like when we go to our north North End hotspot
to what I call it, I now when I when
my feet hit the ground, I either have a little
tobacco or I say in my mind, hey, we're here
to use the land. We're not you know, we're gonna
target practice so we're gonna give you time to get

(46:25):
out of here and then we'll leave in about hour,
you know what I mean. I don't know if that's
helps or not, but it makes me feel better. And
and when I started showing that respect, they quit throwing
stuff at us. So that's all I know.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
And Dad, And here's the thing too, is there were
you know, Dad talked about. And there's a lot of
things that Dad tried to help people with. And a
lot of it was, like you said, the throwing things
in the habit and the habitation and and a lot
of people will move out to the country and have
these things. And what are you gonna do. You're gonna

(46:59):
tell the police that you got a hold plan a
bigfoot that are tearing up your you know, tearing up
your house. You can't say that you're crazy. And so
Dad would, Dad would help people with those. And what
happens is is Dad had a theorized that, you know,
there's property rights, there's ancient property rights when it comes
to the spiritual realm. What's up, Jess? What's up, buddy?

(47:23):
So sorry that Jess is my buddy today.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
She actually, yeah, that's why I put it up there.
She knows.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
You'd really interesting you said that about, you know, ancient
property rights, because I've heard some stories from down here
in North Georgia. My mom has told several times, and
my grandmother and all of them. Anyways, that because a
lot of the really bad Trail of Tears stuff happened

(47:54):
here in North Georgia, that the land here was actually
cursed by the natives, then that would be a lot
of why some of the bad stuff always happens, sicknesses, poverty,
you know, all this other stuff like that that goes
along with it because it was their land, not ours.

(48:15):
So also you look into a lot of that people
attribute bigfoot, dog men and all these other things that
go bump in the night maybe attributed to that that
you know, they're protectors of their land or whatever. So
you know, it can all go in together. So it's
really interesting that your dad had that that same thought

(48:35):
and theory that's very similar to what I've heard my
whole life.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
A bigfoot don't care about a property line in some
courthouse somewhere.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
That there's there's ancient boundary lines that they I believe
that they care about and that we as we as
the you know, I hate not to get into this,
but we, as the white man, you know, kind of
took over. So I'm not a you know, I I
have lots of thoughts about that. Uh but and one

(49:08):
of them, and one of them is is you know,
coming from Tennessee. You know, Tennessee was named after the
Cherokee capital to NACI and I live, I'll be I'll
be living closer when I get the new house, but
I live like robbed by the Cherokee capital. And you
know what, I don't know if Bigfoot are connected to

(49:30):
to that in any way, because you can find bigfoot everywhere,
you know, not just not just you know, around Native
American thoughts or whatnot. They're they're everywhere. But I do
think that, you know, I do think what we did
as a society too, to to the to the Cherokee
nation is unspeakable. And I have heard that, I've actually

(49:55):
heard that they that they have forgiven us, which is
is it had for forgiven United States as a whole.
If that's true, that is forgiveness that's undeserved.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, I don't disagree with you, because yeah, there's some
really dark stuff I won't and.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
He without getting in. That's why we need to know history,
so we won't repeat the same.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Absolutely, I go ahead, you're good.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
So all of us have talked to people that have
seen these things, and what you know, we talked about
one thing that people that shocks people is actually the
face is more human like than that. Of course, I
play with AI and nothing serious. I don't say, hey,
this is and AI always wants to make it look
like a gorilla. And I was trying to recreate something

(50:50):
I saw and it refused to do it exactly what
I wanted, and I only got so far right, uh yep.
And the thing that I noticed was the brow and
the hairline. This thing was less than thirty feet away.
We had the thermal going and the nose. The nose
came down. It was very long, and I'm like, am

(51:14):
I looking at a big foot? Am? Am I looking
at a demon? What am I looking at? And it
definitely was moving. So it gave me a better understanding
to the witnesses who have come to me since I
started doing this, the fear and the confusion when they
come face to face with these things. Right, it makes
sense now.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
One of the one of the things that people really notice,
like you said, is that the human like looking face
on these they're they're they're very they're very native looking,
they're very it really, it really doesn't sit well with people.
I think David Plottis did did a book called The

(51:57):
hoop Of Project, which is Amanda, you guys and find
it if you guys go down to the Sasquatch the
Sasquatch Bigfoot Museum down in North Georgia, which is awesome.
By the way, I love it, and we don't have it.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
The best place to get it is from mister Polyit's
himself his website. You could just google Dave Politi's Bigfoot
and pull up. Now we're throwing up pictures.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
You keep talking, Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
So yeah, my favorite though, that's that same Oh.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Gosh we were we were goofing off. How did that
picture not get deleted? Right?

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
So? But uh, that was The hoop Of Project has
just a ton of has a ton of stat and
it got a lot of hate because those people are
the the the witness sketches that was done I think
by Silva. Silva Irving is that her name. Amanda can

(52:58):
probably tell me.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I don't think Sabylla Irwin was involved in that one.
I think that was Harvey Pratt.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
If Harvey Pratt, yes, yes it was Harvey Pratt, I apologize,
but she's great. Uh but uh and and forget remind
me Pratt was a is a renowned sketch art like

(53:24):
witness sketch artist. So it's not just yeah, so it's
not some Joe blow from Kokomo like like knows how
to do this, does these witness eye sketches, and it's
coming out looking human, human face with the with the
uh you know, just covered in hair and all that

(53:44):
and yeah that you know, that's that's almost you know,
like uh a, I tried to do a little bit
of a troll esque with that, but it's it's a
very human look to it. It's not a gorilla type
of nose. And everybody that I talked to, I can
I can always tell that they if they have or

(54:06):
have not actually seen a bigfoot, because when they'll do it,
they'll you know, I you know, I'm doing these podcasts
or whatnot, and they'll to throw a picture of a
big foot. It'll have the gorilla those and I'm like,
you don't know, you know, and then they'll people that'll
like they'll they'll put some big foot yep, and then
they'll do something like that. Yeah, and it's like it

(54:28):
talks about that human nose.

Speaker 7 (54:30):
What do you guys think came first Uncanny Valley as
far as like these big foot creatures supposedly what we're
seeing them look like, or do you think the creatures
have been around? And then we developed the concept of
Uncanny Valley kind of had nothing to do with them,
even though it fits.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Or maybe maybe we're mixed a little bit with them.
Is that is that a possibility?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I mean posibility with the possibility at this point.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I mean, and look the speculation we're throwing, you know,
But that's why we have discussions, because somebody's gonna ask
that question and to me seeing this thing and then
immediately trying to get back and get AI and it's
ninety percent y'all. The nostrils were the nostrils were more

(55:24):
lower under the depth there or the nose treams under.
It's kind of close with everything else. But I focused
on the nose because it was the most prominent thing
and it was shocking. I don't know what I was
looking at. I'm not going to say it was a
big foot at all, but.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Let me get. I think I've got something that more
resembles what you're talking about. Let me see here.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
It almost looked like a nose on a a Sessme
Street character almost.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
So I've got this. This guy's got is like a
darrow that they call they talk about. Let me see
if I can get that on camera without me absolutely
just widing it out. Ah, that's terrible, but.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yes, so it has the nose way down there.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
It was. Yes, it was more like it wasn't exactly
that long, like but it was more like that than yes,
more like a really long Yeah.

Speaker 8 (56:31):
That yeah crazy, Uh the very troll like uh Dad
said they like that was people call those like a
Darrow's or Darrows, but they have the.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Big long that these big long elephant esque like really
really abundantly long noses. And that he caught that like
coming out of a little portal. Again for people that
are just wanted to come for Bigfoot. Sorry, we're blowing
that one up.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Well, Travis. Immediately after that, when flat Rock got the
thermal going is when we caught the ORB video. This
is amazing you.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Were talking about that. Tell me about this ORB video
and help me understand it again.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Okay, so what was going on? Quickly? I had started.
I had gathered some quartz and I was showing everybody
how to make cold fire, and I'm clacking this stuff together,
and then I see this phase and then flat rock.
He takes a picture, but then he turns the video on.
When I get it back there, it's gone. But this

(57:41):
is what showed up this. It looked like a human
cell about baseball size, less than thirty feet away. It's
got a nucleus and it's got a membrane and it's pulsating.
Checked us out and it gets clear. I don't know
if you can see it or not, but you can
see through it right there.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, I can see it, man. And that's yeah. I
don't like that, that's no.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
And then yeah, this this is what freaks me.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Drop Yeah, the straight drop.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, now there it is again. I'm kind of scared
to go over the video and look in the background
because I'm gonna get I'm going to confess something. One day,
I was in the North End Hotspot and we had
had some stuff going on. So I remembered your dad. Uh,
So I turned my camera on and I turned it
behind me and I'm walking out and I've got the

(58:32):
creepy feels. I am terrified. I get to the truck
and I delete the video because I didn't want to
look see what was behind me. So I mean, I got.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
It and that's and that's okay, and I'm it. And
because I think there's a lot of people that won't
do the back trail camera because they're afraid of what
they will find. Genuinely. Yeah, And I I know I
know folks, you know, I know folks that go out
and do investigations, and man, they have some they have

(59:06):
some cojones that drag the ground because mine I I
ain't going out there and doing that stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
No. Now, I heard they're talking about audio. Your dad
might have had audio of a portal opening. I did
hear the speech that Scott Nelson went over. And when
you hear when you hear that, there's no question some
people you kind of it sounds like it, But it's
almost the power that's behind this this speech is it's

(59:34):
it does something to my core. It makes me feel weird.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I don't know, but it puts it into.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
That Roger, ma'am, don't don't you man me, sir, so
fast I was asking clarification. You when you hear a
certain noise or an audio makes you feel weird.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
That was the first time I heard the sierras sounds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yes, those are creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
After you hear it a thousand times, it loses that
original uh feeling, and it gives you, just like anything else, just.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Like right, hey, stop bringing up my childhood, our.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Childhood, sir, our childhood. Yes, okay, fellow millennials, Okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Anyway, yep, yep, go ahead, yeah, something No, there's so
much to get into that. We have people, you know,
wonder about the metallic sounds and you know, could that
be something opening up or shutting because I've heard that before.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
So I you know, so dad, dad has several portal
videos that David Plotti's owns now before Dad passed away,
David Plotti's uh was came and was going to do
a documentary on it. So I have I have to
tell you that there's some really cool portal videos. I

(01:01:04):
just I can't show you, and I apologize about that,
but I'm respecting those agreements that David Pilate's now owns
those videos. Those are his and when he releases those
through hopefully soon when he releases those through his his
documentary and whatnot, he will. But what those show is

(01:01:26):
the portal. It has the door closing sound. It sounds
like a big metal iron door closing. Yeah, it's it's
pretty it's pretty wild stuff. Now again, all I have
to reference the portal stuff is what I have seen
in pop culture. There's this show on Netflix called dad

(01:01:49):
gumm It and if I can, if I see it,
I can do it. It's a it's this. Uh, it's
the show about about time travel and dad gum It.
And I'm so sorry that I can't think of it
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
It happens, don't worry about it. I forgot my name
one night, hold on, go ahead, argate or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
It's not that, it's it's this Netflix show. I'm gonna
look it up. I'd be right back. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
And and the point, uh, to this conversation is, you know,
you start out when you actually see something and you
know it's weird and it's not supposed to exist. And
the more you dig, the more this other stuff shows up. Now,
how can the people with me that night we can't
deny that we got an or bone video. We weren't

(01:02:43):
expecting that. I saw a face right before that. I
don't know how they're connected the places on the thirty
third parallel. There's courts everywhere. Who knows, but the fact
is it happened, and I don't know why. I don't know,
and I'm not going back there. I'm just tell everybody
right now. I've had a note for that place.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
So yeah, and we'll get into that. The show is
called Dark, and if you watch it, it's really really yeah. Huh, buddy,
get if you would like to bend something for a month,
holler it is it is. Dark is a great show,
and I'm kind of gonna spoil it a little bit,

(01:03:26):
but one of the main things is there's a portal
and to enter this portal, you go through this iron door.
And it was like, it was so weird because I
didn't know anything about portals. And then Dad's telling me
all this and I'm looking this up and people were like,

(01:03:47):
your dad heard this portal thing. I'm like, what are
you talking about? Dad never talked to me about this.
And then I go start looking through the archive of
the things and I'm like, oh my gosh, he did
talk about portals, and he did have these iron door sounds.
And I'm like, wait a second, I again watch this
show and it's and you know how uh again, some

(01:04:10):
shows like won't get that much traction, but they tell
you a lot like this is one of those shows,
and it's like, whoa, you know I'm doing it? Like yes, yeah,
very very solid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
You're like, wait a minute, I saw that in a
movie right now. It's real, you know, it was real.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Very yeah, very soft disclosure, you know, they I think that,
and and if you know they tell us, they just
tell us so much. And you know what Dad found
out with the Sasquatches. You know, they're human hybrid. They're
a hybridization between a human and something else. And then
you know, talk about soft disclosure. I'm a big X

(01:04:52):
Files guy. I think we all can kind of have
our big X Files fans. Was what was man? Yeah,
never trust the smoking Man? But what was the main goal?
What were the aliens trying to do with the government?
What were they doing? Oh? They were hybrid as hybrid.

(01:05:14):
I can't say the word hybrid. Yeah, thanks, thank you.
It's too big for my country. Well, you know, too
big a words, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Can't so I'm not going to tempt it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
They were, they were mixing the humans and the aliens,
so it's it's they're trying to create these half breeds.
It's just very funny to me that that has seems
to be the end goal with a lot of things.
From a Christian worldview, I'm looking them as, oh, that's nephilim.

(01:05:49):
From a if you want to use a scientific worldview, oh,
the alien creators are trying to for us to be better.
If you want to look at from a fun bingo.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
You got chimeras going back from one culture but many.
And then also too, I think we think of our
biblical ancestors and literally the people from the Bible as
being somehow primitive or not understanding things, and I don't
think it could be any further from the truth. I

(01:06:23):
think agreed, Amen, And I think too, once you start
talking about modifying our very essence, our very DNA in
a way that was not intended or natural, it gets
into some really dark, murky territory really quick. There was
a show I got maybe five minutes into it and

(01:06:44):
I had to turn it off because my discernment u
wu was going. But it's called Sweet Tooth, And.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I finished watching that one not too long ago, and yeah,
holy crap, the discerned like the whole time. I ended
up having to finish the show because unfortunately I got
sucked into it and I'm like, I must know how
it ends. But yeah, that was that was crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
But sidewar to that to that real quick. I'll say
a couple of things. I'm trying to say three different
things here at once. I'll just always preface just because
I'm given discernment over something that was for me, unless
I'm led to say, Hey, Amanda, I really don't think
you should be watching that show. I would talk to
you about that privately or whatever. So just because I'm

(01:07:32):
getting something says hey Ashley, this isn't meant for you,
that's that's literally on me. I'm not telling anybody else
they can't watch it or enjoy it. I mean, I
watch a lot of things I probably shouldn't watch, but
I'm just saying, for that specific the Sweet Tooth thing,
it looked interesting, the effects looked good. I went to
go watch it, and, like I said, five minutes in,

(01:07:52):
I just I felt just like no, like and not
even what I mean. It was so clearly no, like,
all right, I you know, turn it off. But I
think and same thing with like Stranger Things. I love
Stranger Things. Season five is coming up. I am so
stoked I have it. I have a whole plan to
watch season one, episode one, all the way to the

(01:08:15):
beginning of season five, Like I'm set. Some people can't
watch Stranger Things for the same reason you got mkay Ultra,
you got the portals opening, you got things sign or yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I haven't started watching it for those reasons myself, right,
I want to go into that or.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Not for for me. The fourth for the fourth season
got to the point where I was like, oh, I
don't like that. Like I'm going to power through, but
I don't like that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
You don't like it's the quiet part out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
It's being really is being older than y'all. I started
noticing there's two TV series that opened my eyes. One
was Ancient Aliens and the other one was America Earth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I love America.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
When they yes, when they start going to these sites
it's supposed to be two thousand years old or eight
hundred years old or whatever, and there's nobody was in America.
But all of a sudden, we're finding ten thousand year
old structures and then walls that's buried under forty foot
of you know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
There's a famous Yeah, they're everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
And these shows it's almost like, like Travis said, they
don't catch tracks. And you're like, hey, have you ever
seen America on Earth? And no, I don't know what
you're talking about. And I'm on the edge of my seat,
like why is that in Georgia? Why is that in
New Mexico? Why is this blue paint that comes from
New Mexico in Georgia from you know, you know, a

(01:09:41):
thousand years years ago whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
So and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
H and audience kind of did that also with the
structures and how things were built that we can't do now.
And I'll get off my stump.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
But no, I know, Roger, I'm going to hop you
get off. I'm hopping right back on it, buddy. You
know we you know, we talk about you know, people
were like, well, we would know that this stuff in
history and all this is like do you understand what
we call history? Like the we like agree.

Speaker 7 (01:10:10):
On who assassinated Kennedy and that was on film exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
History is written by the victors.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Bingo, and history is written by the victors, and history
is written by you know, those those in power, like
you said, those in power, Uh, they do. There's things
that they don't they don't want us to know. There's
a reason why the library and Alexandria you burned. You know,

(01:10:39):
there's so much like like they didn't just burn that,
they make sure the library. You know, there's so much
that we have zero clue about history, and we think,
like here's a good example. You know, they think that
King tut you know what, they built the pyramids for
him or something or whoever.

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
They find a mummy and a single pyramid, not just
the idea.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, and some people and some people are like, well,
wait a minute, I thought I was going to watch
a podcast or listen to a podcast about Bigfoot. This
is this Yes, all right, it's all intertwined.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
The word from one of my other favorite podcasts, Bigfoot
is just the gateway drug for ye into Bigfoot unless
you just have blinders on and or just some major
cognitive dissonance. You know, you start going down these other
rabbit holes, well something, you start finding twenty other questions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Well that's what I was saying earlier. I was trying
to make okay bigfoot. The subject of Bigfoot people that
are shown these things and and go digging for information
or finding these other truths like we have if you
if you dig far enough. So it's almost like it's
not an accident and maybe the right people are being

(01:12:03):
shown things. I don't know that to be a fact,
but it has felt that way in my life. There's
things that I've seen and experienced. If I'd experienced them
in any other order than what they happened, I might
be in an insane asylum right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
So yeah, absolutely, I think Flat Rock said it really well.
It's like, what is science. It's paid. It is paid
government propaganda. My dad found that out with you know,
doing doing and contributing to the Bigfoot DNA study. It's
like it's the most scientific, rock solid thing that you've

(01:12:40):
ever want, one of the things you've ever seen. And
it was filled with massive, massive, massive amounts of money
and people trying to get it stopped and get Spiestonian.

Speaker 7 (01:12:56):
We know you got them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
That's right, but but it's about as it's about as
rock solid as you're gonna get on a study. I
don't think anybody's ever gonna pay any more money ever. Again.
I know, mister Ericsson at the very end of it.
He basically said that people are not ready for the truth,

(01:13:19):
and they're just like they're just they're just not ready.
They don't want to know because the truth, you know
that we say the truth will set you free. I
don't think people want that freedom. They like their nice
little quiet box, and if their little box gets destroyed,

(01:13:40):
they have to deal with the cold, hard reality of
this world is nowhere close to as safe to as
normal as people think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yep, if you that. That's why I say it's hard
to have a fifty year conversation in three minutes because
it goes so deep and it goes in so many
different directions really quickly. It's really quickly. Yeah, it just
amazes me. My friend Don owed him. A lot of
the original people that came and started watching when I

(01:14:14):
just I first started a couple of years ago. They
know Don. He's my former game warden buddy, but he's
into all this stuff and he's trying to tell me.
I said, Don, I can't, I can't take that right now.
And he laughed at me because he could see me
evolving like what I was ready for, and he said,
you remember I told you that in nineteen ninety eight. No,

(01:14:36):
but I wasn't ready. So I've been there myself, and
and I understand, I don't I'm not I'm not going
to push anything on anybody. But if you come to
me and ask any of us.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Then.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
A lot of people laugh because something scares them. That's
a that's a reaction. And you've got to realize you
got to be strong doing this. The people that are
trolling and making fun they're the uneducated one. And that's okay,
you know, So you've got to be confident in yourself

(01:15:11):
and have enough confidence to you're gonna put it out there.
People gonna throw darts at you. But you know what,
if I if I'm telling the truth and it's what
I believe it now, I'm I'm fluid. If if Travis
we sit down run the campfire and you explain something
to me that makes sense that I didn't believe in
or whatever, I'm going to listen to you because I've

(01:15:34):
evolved so much with experiences, so anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
And there's and same with you, Roger. There's there's people
that know so much more than I do about this.
You know, I, yes, was I privileged enough to to
kind of be born into this, yes, but does that
mean I know anywhere close to some of those guys
out there, like yourself, like mor ZOULI like, uh, you know,

(01:16:02):
you know, I got to sit down, like I said
with with Tony Merkle and John Pounders, those guys have
interviewed and they're talking about people that I'm like, I
don't know what to say or what y'all are talking about.
So I'm gonna sit here quietly, you know, and try
to take yeah, exactly. And and they're talking about this
and and this person. They're interviewing this and this, and

(01:16:24):
I'm like, oh my gosh, so uh, you know, you
just just take it all in. And because they're like
you said, there's just so many things out there that
that we don't know. And there's people in this in
this space, in this uh in this arena that have
been doing this, and like ericson there, you know, people

(01:16:47):
aren't ready for it, and they're trying to tell us
a little this and that, and we're just sometimes we're
just not ready to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Well, I do know this. If you if you jump
up on the table and screaming you and whatever, that's
not gonna help. You have to be patient, and we
had talked about changing the public mindset. It's not a
quick thing. It's not gonna happen overnight. And some of
these little shows, some of these conversations, some of the

(01:17:16):
meet and greets, the meet and greet you had a
couple of days ago with those guys. That's that's gonna
change things because it gives us something to actually talk about. Now,
I could do five shows a week and do entertaining
and stuff. We want to entertain because we want to
grab you so you'll listen, and also I want you

(01:17:39):
to listen because you might can teach us something.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I started this to learn because I can ask questions.
And I have seen a huge because you know, y'all,
being fifty four, I'm the old guy here. You know,
when I saw the big Foot when I was fourteen,
nobody was talking about it, absolutely nobody. And you know
with all these shows that have come along, Monster Quest,
Finding Bigfoot and all in the movies or whatever you

(01:18:06):
you touched on it earlier about the the mindset changing,
because it's everywhere now now it is a big joke
to some people, but to some of us, it's not.
And that's why I'm here forty years later talking about
this because I started selfishly because I wanted to ask

(01:18:26):
questions and learn. But then when I figured out that
it was helping people, then I'm like, hey, let's get
Travis Carpenter, come on and teach us some things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
You know. I don't know if I'm gonna teach anything.
I just like, get out with you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Oh it's cold, Yeah, Hey, anytime I'll come. I'll come
over there and hang out or whatever. I know where
you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
I heard that. I heard that, Well we'll go, we'll
beat on rocks and start to start friction fires together.
That's that's not you know's my thing you're talking about.
You're talking about doing that and I'm like, hmm, I
like that stuff. That's that's my jam.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Yeah. I saw it on TIK talking about got us
eat up by Bigfoot and the or almost got us.
So I don't know that again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Speaking of your jam, that'll give a good good leeway
into Let me plug your channels here because I know
you do a lot of the outdoors stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
I do like, I do love the outdoors. Thank you
for plugging me, Amanda. I do love the outdoors. Haven't
got a chance to go out much lately. I've been
doing work's been work has been just absolutely killing me lately.
And it's been hot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Right, Holy, this summer has been awful.

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
Yeah, it's like yesterday where I'm at my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
So yeah, you you walk out, you walk out here
in the East Tennessee sun and uh in this humidity
and North George is even worse. But you know, walk
out and here in the in the east seat and
I'm like, it's too hot. I'm just gonna wait till fall.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Being on the water a little bit, you know, for
taking a Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
It's bad, but you know, going back to uh, you know,
going back to the bigfoot stuff and and and all that.
I think. You know, my dad wrote this book called
the Sasquatch a Awareness Project. And I'm terrible using this stuff.

(01:20:22):
I've got the blur filter on, so forgive me. But
you wrote this book called the Sasquatch Awareness Project, and
it's like awareness, what do you what do you mean?
Sasquatch awareness? And it's it's mainly to to kind of
be a very quick man like easy read that tells
you what they are, what to do, X y Z.

(01:20:44):
And the whole point is is to bring legitimacy to
the folks that have had these actual encounters that want
some real answers, that want to know what's up and
to help people. That's like, if you have had an encounter,
here's you're not crazy. You know. There's so many people.

(01:21:05):
I'm sure Roger, you talked about it when you're fourteen.
You know, it's like, no one's talking about this. I
can't tell my buddies this. But like you said, when
we were talking, it's like you would say something and
then they would give you that look, you know, like hey,
this is this, this, this is that. You know. I
was talking to a guy yesterday at the meat and greet.
This guy named Chris and his brother had an encounter

(01:21:29):
with one. His brother saw a white bigfoot with red
or orange eyes excuse me, and he say it ran out.
He said it ran off and when it ran off,
it disappeared and it shimmered. And I'm like, that tracks
one hundred percent. But twenty years ago, you're crazy. But
for us and for us that really are into the

(01:21:51):
bigfoot stuff, like man that tracks, we've heard tons of those,
not just the whole you know. Oh, it looked like
a linebacker, you know, big old linebacker, this this black
thing with conehead and just kind of lumping through the
woods like people that have really had some insane like
we saw it and encounters, but encounters with this thing

(01:22:12):
that really don't know what's up. It'll be very similar
to that. It will be different colors, the glowing eyes,
the the the the you know, the shimmering, the the
the almost going into this weird state of disappearing. You know,
that is extremely common. And it just again brings legitimacy

(01:22:34):
to those you know, these books like books like this,
not necessarily this book, you know, go buy whatever book
you want, but that that's the that's the why. Just
trying to bring legitimacy to this to folks and trying
to do it how do I say this, Try to
do it in a way that doesn't just absolutely sound

(01:22:55):
looney tunes to the you know, the general public. Doing
it in a way that it can be accepted, it's digestible.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Yeah, yeah, And like I said, that has to be
kind of a slow process for some people. Some people.
I've had people that like, you know, I never believed
in this stuff or had this happen, but then I
heard your encounter or a guest you had on and
they mentioned something that struck with me, just like we

(01:23:28):
had a comment there like now, same here. I had
things happen before I saw the Bigfoot, the screams. I
had a time where I was frozen in my tracks.
I couldn't move, and I didn't know what it was.
And I said, in my mind, if you'll let me go,
I'll turn around and go back home and won't come
back today. And it's I don't know if it's power
suggestion or mind thing, but I was let go. I

(01:23:51):
didn't tell anybody of that stuff. I mean, are you
going to tell you?

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
My dad laughed at me when I told him that
evening that I saw Bigfoot. A year or so later,
he came to me and started asking questions. I'm like,
you know, what's up? So they had an encounter in
the in the same area. So anyway, the books, the
TV shows and and the TV shows they have their place,

(01:24:18):
but their entertainment, this is personal. We're being personable, We're
being us. We're not putting on an act. We're not
putting on a show. I'm not gonna fake something I
don't have. You know, I hate the people that faxed us.
And I don't hate the people. I hate that they
do it because it sets that progress back that your
dad made.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Right right exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
Well, so, Travis, you're a woodsman, you're in the woods.
You I'm assuming a hunter and all that as well.
Is it ever talked about in those circles, either when
you're getting your licenseeing your permits or gun safety whatever
renewals anything like that. Is there ever whispers of, hey,
we can't officially tell you this, but when you're out there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
To be looking for this. No, there's no whispers of
that in in the in the classes or in the
courses or anything like that. There's no whispers of that.
I will say, if you hang out with some older
folks long enough, they'll tell you. But you have to
you have to get to know them. I that that's

(01:25:27):
kind of the thing, is like you have to really
you almost have to mention it yourself a little bit.
But and then they'll open up to you about their experiences.
And you know, one of the biggest things was, yeah,
it was we were you know, we're out in the
woods and we saw you know, my my bigfoot or

(01:25:48):
excuse me, my boy, my boy scout troop we saw
something or or this or that, like, you'll always get those,
but it's usually the older hunters that and they'll they'll
be they'll be a little like I said, older, and
they just they don't have anything to lose by telling
you but or yeah or game. Yeah, they don't have

(01:26:12):
anything to exactly I've gotten many people have told me,
told me that stuff in places before they even knew
I did this. I worked at a vitamin store for
the longest time and we talked. I was talking about,
you know, going hunting and doing all that, and a

(01:26:32):
lot of the a lot of the older folks you know, mentioned, hey,
be careful in X, don't go near why it's a
little creepy in there. You know, just there's places you
just don't go type of things. And that's that. To
answer your question, yes, and and no, you're I don't

(01:26:56):
think you're ever going to get a government official to
whisper or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Unfortunately, why while while they're while they're teaching, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Yeah, while they're teaching. I think if you got them,
I think if you got them around a campfire, uh,
with a beer or two, it made may be a
little different come right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
I'm not going to say where this happened, but it
happened last week and the person can expand on this
at a later date. Uh, but there was a neighborhood
attacked in the past week and now on one called
t went crazy guy shot at one and uh we

(01:27:40):
I you know, I can't say y'all, but y'all may
know the people, and y'all might hear about it on
one of the shows. But it's amazing to me, like, uh,
the deputy was scared to death because he was he's
a new guy. One of the older police officers said, Hey,
you need to go talk to this fellow, which we
know you need to go talk to him. And it

(01:28:04):
was an all night ordeal, banging on the walls, knocking
pictures off the wall, throwing rocks on top of houses, screaming.
So that person might be in chat too. So that's
all I'm going to say about that. But these things
are happening in these halaws now all the time. People
are seeing them raiding dumpsters. There was an internet word

(01:28:27):
where the people were shown up north they were going
to drop the kids off at school and the Bigfoot
were raiding the dumpsters and they had to run them off.
You know, we've heard these stories, but they don't gain traction,
and they don't want them to. You know, if I
was a sheriff, I mean, how would I handle it,
not knowing the real deal When I worked at the

(01:28:47):
sheriff's department back when I was nineteen twenty twenty one,
that sheriff would have said, don't say anything, throw the
reports away. We don't want all that attention. I knew.
He's also right, so a lot of this stuff gets
swept under the rug. And when you talk to the locals,
like you're talking about the local hunters, the heck, the postman.

(01:29:09):
I've had more post postmen and women like dude, I saw.
They're out all hours of the day, right, so they
have chances to see these things. And it just amazes
me of how secretive it is. But it's not, you
know where. It don't get outside the hollow, It don't

(01:29:30):
get outside the have one part of town.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
So but anyway, there you said it it's it's it's
an unspoken it's an it's an unspoken rule that we
can talk amongst ourselves, but anything outside of the community,
it ain't We're not going to talk about it. Uh,
it's it's it's really don't talk yet exactly and and

(01:29:57):
and that's exactly right. But it's funny how you just
you mentioned that they're you know, they're in dumpsters or there,
they're doing all those things. You know, Dad had those
issues too, you know, he had them coming to his house.
And I actually talked to a lady from Dad's neighborhood

(01:30:20):
that she knows where I work and I'm not going,
you know, and she can't. She actually was just coming
to work to get some things done, uh and to
actually get services and me and her were just talking
and uh and I had met her at the Gatlinburg
show before, and I was like, you know, just reaffirming
these things that Dad talked about happened actually happened. Like

(01:30:44):
there was police, there was a peeping you know, a
peeping tom, bigfoot, you know, all these things. She's like, absolutely,
this stuff happened. I remember being that you know all that.
So it was amazing to have that second source kind
of confirm that that what happens when you when these

(01:31:05):
things like start coming am I like, it takes you know,
you're not the only one affected by it. There's multiple
ones I'm sorry, I'm putting you to sleep, Ashley.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Did you Mack? It's like four o'clock and that, you
know in the evening there right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Exactly six thirty my day stars at ship Start. I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yeah, it's it's been nice to see, you know, people
like your dad. You know, he he's you could name
on one one or both hands people that have influenced
this subject for the good. And your dad has to

(01:31:50):
be way at the top. And I appreciate him doing
what he did. What was his advice to you, like,
did he did he want you to carry on? Did
he want you to try to find out the truth
or or what? What was his advice to you?

Speaker 7 (01:32:10):
There's no way he expected you to be like, yeah, Dad,
I'm gonna go sell tires or something like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
So, so it was that's a good point. So basically
for me and Dad, we just it was just like,
here's the truth, what do you do with it? Like
it was more or less like it was just a
part of everyday conversation. I know, it sounds crazy. It
was like, hey Dad, how was your day? All the

(01:32:38):
you know, how about involves what's going on with the
bigfoot stuff and like like that that that's just yeah,
that literally it like we would, we would, That's just
what we talked about. That's what we did. That's how
we hung out. It was like he's like, hey, I.

Speaker 7 (01:32:54):
Have part of you that resented it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
M that's such a good questions, such a good you
don't have to answer that. No, no, no, Well, I
I will say this, I resented the obsession for the
first couple of years, and he admits to it being

(01:33:18):
an obsession for all of us.

Speaker 7 (01:33:20):
I think we all hit that point, and.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
So I resented that two thousand and eight to twenty
thirteen obsession. After that, I felt like I got my
dad back, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Well, I probably appreciated you taking an interest in just listening,
because that's a lot of times if you have somebody
just to listen, you know, it makes all the difference
in the.

Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
World, right, and pull each other off the ledge all.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The time, like and you do. That's that's the thing too,
is you have to you know, with these conspiracies, with
all these glory creatures stuff, you know, you do have
to kind of unplug. For me, I got way too
in the rabbit hole when it came to politics. I
got way too down the rabbit hole and I've just

(01:34:10):
had to unplug. And it's like I got to take
my hands off the wheel here. And so what I
do is I'll do this stuff. I'll get in the
rabbit holes with a sasquatch. But mostly I know this
is kind of you know, people will probably roll their
eyes to with it. It's like I just go to
sports for a little bit to unplug, and I think

(01:34:31):
that's okay. I think people will make fun and it's like,
you know, I used to make fun of all. You know,
you all just care about the game. It's like, no,
I think they may know so much of the truth
that they need a break from it, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Have you ever had have you ever had any encounter
or sighting?

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Man, I have not physically ever seen one. Have I
had weird things happen that I can maybe attribute to encounters.
Maybe there was one time that I was hunting with
that a little bit and and again we're hunting out,
we're hunting out in the in this area, and man,

(01:35:10):
I could just feel it, like feel that that it
and I'm like, ugh, I don't like this. I don't
like this. I don't like this and then finally I
hear this what sounds like a woman just absolutely scream
at me. Now, could that have been a blue hair?

(01:35:31):
Could that have been a fox? Could that have been
something of that sort? Maybe? But I'll tell you what,
it didn't sound like it. It sounded like something screamed
at me because it was just mad that I wasn't
leaving the area.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
And that was he the only one who heard it?
Or did your dad hear it as well?

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Dad did not hear it? See Dad? See the way
we hunted it is we hunted off these horse trails,
and I was hunting. I was sitting at on the
top of this kind of I said, this little hill.
But you know how you know how you walking through
the woods and you kind of have this you know,
the the trail is one place and then like up

(01:36:14):
on the side you have this basically like a bank
that's like six foot faller. I was sitting at the
top of this bank that was in the middle of
this like this trail that was was a three way trail,
which is where you want to be while when deer hunting,
by the way, you want to be in a nice
little intersection, right, And I was I was just I
was sitting there and if of course I was on
this bank and then the the there was about twelve

(01:36:37):
thirteen fourteen feet above me there the it sloped up
into another little thing. So I was, I was pretty
pretty good cover all that stuff, and it just behind me. Man,
I could just feel something just dick, I don't know
how to describe it. So but Dad was but Dad

(01:36:58):
was about fifty to one hundred yard yards down the trail,
uh in another spot. Basically Dad dad at that time,
he was he hunted up around like the big foot
feeding session was where he was kind of hunting. And
I was, I was back about uh fifty two one
hundred yards back, and so he didn't hear it. And
I kind of was a little embarrassed because I it screamed,

(01:37:20):
and I'm I'm, you know, you know, Travis acting like
Billy bad, you know what, like streaming back at it
like you get what you you know I started, you know,
I'm I'm cussing it out and and you know, saying
words I shouldn't say as a Christian, but telling it
to that's right, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
I I kind of get gotten this argument with it.
I'm like I'm sick and tired of your crap, you know,
leave me a lot, you know. And I was like,
get the heck out of here, and uh, I didn't
say heck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
And they'll make they'll make you say ugly words I
can attest.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
And and I you know, that's about and honestly, that's
about the closest thing that I can tell you that happens. Now.
Are there times where I get that feeling in the woods,
especially near rocks? Now, I I I always, I honestly

(01:38:22):
never realized it until I started listening to other folks
and they talked about these bowlders and rocks and I
and I then now I feel dumb because I'm sitting
here listening to you know, Dave fil always talking about
missing four one one all around boulders. I'm like, well, gosh,
I don't really like bowlers number one or number two
on the check bowlers. And I'm like, I really don't

(01:38:45):
like that boulder over there. I'm getting really weird like
feelings around it. And now and now I'm like, you know,
I had this like years ago, and now I'm like, duh,
you know, uh, yeah, yeah, I feel I feel dumb there.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
Let me ask ask you a question, and it may
not make sense to you. I apologize because I know
what I'm trying to say or convey. So in your story,
you're saying that you're in the woods and you just
have this horrible feeling and it's kind of consuming. You're
not really sure what it is, where it's coming from.
You have a good idea, but you can't be certain

(01:39:21):
you're not seeing anything. You hear this screen, and I
don't want to misquote you. So just that feeling of hey,
I get out of my area is kind of what
I took it to be.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
Do you, and maybe it's hard to say, do you
feel like maybe your unease made this other entity uneasy
and it was defending itself or do you think it
was maybe reflecting back to you that same feeling of

(01:39:58):
you maybe not wanting to be there, so this thing
pushing you out.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
It's hard to say what was right. I mostly it's
I got that dread, just that dread feeling. Now again,
I'm in the woods. I've got a firearm. I've got
a you know, a high high caliber rifle with me.
So I do believe that these creatures do not like

(01:40:29):
guns at all. They don't like it, and they can
be affected by it. Now, some people will be like, oh,
like guns won't hurt a bull poop. Guns affect these things.
They are physical. I do believe they are. They have
a spiritual realm to them, but I do they are physical.
So the you know, you may.

Speaker 7 (01:40:50):
Especially when there's little ones around.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
And correct, correct, you may have hit on something. It
feeling my energy, it's energy getting ramped up, my energy
like just this this kind of like this culmination to
where it just finally popped off a little bit. This
is absolutely Actually this is what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Uh you you were running it out of your territory
and it was trying to run you out of his territory.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
So it's kind of absolute.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
That's a good uh boondog. That's a good comment theory.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:41:24):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny because and I've said that, I've
said this before, Like my theory is anybody who has
stepped three foot in the woods is standing next to something,
whether they know it or not. Right, I feel like absolutely,
I feel like these things make themselves visible when they
want to or when they don't care, you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Yes, very rarely sorry, go ahead, no, no, you're nailing it.
You go right ahead, please.

Speaker 7 (01:41:52):
And I and I think sometimes you hear the stories
of where it looks shocked, like oh, it didn't know
it could see me, and I think those are more outliers.
But let's see if I can make this makes sense.
I had the privilege of going to Scotland back in June.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Of the way awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
It was awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
Me and Travis can go somewhere else, Hey Field trip
any day, anytime, let me know, we'll just make it happen.
But I will say there was one day where I
had the opportunity to go to this really famous fossil
beach and it's it was wild because I mean just
I'm so Americanized. So it's like, I'm thinking this is

(01:42:41):
going to be like red tape and it's going to
be really hard to get to. I'm gonna have all
my documentation and no, it's it's just a hike to
the beach basically. And to get to this beach, I
had to go probably four miles in downhill, four miles
up getting back. That was that's a different story we
won't talk about. I was saying swear words too, but

(01:43:06):
but I was in this very very and Amanda will
tell you, like I was communicating with her, but like
ancient forests and I'm not trying to use buzzwords here,
but just this ancient, old forest that you could feel
it's very ethereal over there, even in the most mundane places.

(01:43:26):
It's like it's easy to believe a culture believing in
magic when you're you're just surrounded by that feeling. And
the reason why I say all this is the one
thing I took away from that that stood out beyond
just the fossils and the ocean and the dinosaur stuff,
which was amazing, by the way, but even more so,

(01:43:48):
I didn't feel a presence in the woods. And it's
only when you feel the lack of something when you
realize that it was there, like having a like a
chronic pain or something go away and you're like, oh,
that's what that feels like, right, The absence is something.
And I realized in that hike, I have never been

(01:44:08):
in the woods stateside here in Washington, Georgia, wherever I've been,
I've never been in the woods and not felt like
there was something else there or watching or some And
I don't want to say that creepily or scarily, but
just being in the woods and then not feeling that

(01:44:28):
it was like it was very profound for me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
That's that's really interesting. So it you know, we talk
about that feeling, that sixth sense. You know a lot
of people will talk about it, but everybody has that
sixth sense. So here's a good example. You know, me
and dad, me and Dad being hunters, we talk about

(01:44:52):
like when we're seeing a deer, not looking at it.
And I know that's crazy every one of you, you
sitting here at the panel and the audience. You know,
when someone's watching you. You know, when someone has eyes
on you. That's that that sixth sense, that feeling. So
I kid you, not me and Dad, we wouldn't look

(01:45:15):
directly at the deers. And Roger can tell all the
old heads will tell you this too. Don't look directly
at that deer because that deer refins you immediately. It's like,
you know, almost you watch it out of the you
do it, okay, you see it out of the corner
of your eye. Don't look at you you don't look
at it, like, am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Roger, No, I walked up on the bear in Gatlinburg,
and I did the same thing. I wouldn't make eye contact.
But I was getting out of there, and I was
trying to remember everything that I read in the books
back in the day. And but here's another experiment. Go
to a restaurant. Any of y'all here, go to a
big busney restaurant, pick somebody out and stare at.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Him, stare at them. They'll turn and look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
If they don't make my contact with you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
It's that sixth sense. So we oh, yeah, exactly exactly.
But we all have that sixth sense to us, and
it so so what you're describing is is when you're
walking through the woods and you just know something is
watching you, and I think, Dad, you talking about kind

(01:46:17):
of coming circling back to your question about have they
chosen you? I believe once they do chose you or
mark you in some point, that sixth sense becomes so
honed into them that Dad could literally get out of
the truck and be like, there's one, there's there's one
way over there. He's just he's staring at us right there,
and I'm like, what are you talking about? And it's

(01:46:39):
like there, I can just feel it. He's there. Just
just let's just keep going and it became that tuned
with them whatever that whatever that is. That's that's where
it became.

Speaker 7 (01:46:49):
But we also that he could pick out gender.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
He didn't say gender. I wouldn't say gender, but he
would he would know where they are, but not not
I wouldn't say or anything like that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
I saw a video where he was walking and he stated,
like I heard, he knew which one it was, shuffled
its feet kind of to let him know it was there,
like I'm here, and I'm like, man, he's so calm.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I don't know, he got he almost got annoyed by
it at the end, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
I would imagine I would agree with you there that
at least that's how I picked up on it watching
some of the last videos there. Like he said, he's
just like other over there. He just keeps walking and
keeps talking.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
He would he he got it got to the point
where he he he just got it, not annoyed with it,
but it's like, oh, you are going to make you know,
you're going to do your thing today, you know, type
type of thing. It did become annoying for a few years,
and then he got more back into it where he
wasn't annoyed.

Speaker 7 (01:47:53):
Especially if he had such a love for the forest
in general. I could see where I would get I
would get mad too if somebody took away like something
like that from me. I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
I think you said it really well. Is you know,
Dad did have such a love for the forest, the outdoors,
and he felt like they took that. No, he wrote
that that loss of innocence, saying he felt like he
took that away. They took that away from him a
little bit, and he had to learn how to cope.
And I don't feel like he did a you know,

(01:48:26):
I think he would even admit to he didn't cope
very well for the for a few years. With with
knowing that and being able to go back in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
Yeah, I've got a question so knowing how b f
R's mindset has been, which change it's changing also? Yeah,
and and of course he was on an episode. How
was that for him? How did they take their differences
and make that work? Did he have a great experience

(01:48:59):
or was it something than.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
Not that you know, I can't definitively say how their
relationship was because I just wasn't. I don't know, No,
I not. I'm not not old enough, not wise enough
to understand. I think that I think they're coming along.

(01:49:22):
I I do. I was at that conference. I can
just speak for me. I was at the conference. Uh,
and they had there were some b f r O
guys up there, and they were super cool, and I,
you know, I they they're I think they're more open
to understanding that in a big hairy yate like like that.

(01:49:48):
Just saying, just saying, and again I'm trying to make
this for your listeners digestible. Is there was a DNA
study done there. The results of the d and A
studies show that the uh, the the Bigfoot are are
half human half something else. And that really puts a

(01:50:12):
wrench into the oh, this is just a big hairy ape,
undiscovered ape and it and a lot of the BFRI
guys are, hey, this is a big hairy undiscovered undiscovered ape,
very much like Gigantipithecus, and just the evidence just isn't
there for that. And I think they are coming around

(01:50:34):
to it. I heard you got to give him some time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
I think it was twenty twenty three. It was twenty three. Uh.
We went to the Bigfoot conference over there, at my
first one and I was lit. I listened to people
and what they say, and a lot of people have
their own opinions of money maker.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
But he was.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Saying, let's get this physical stuff down, let's get this evidence,
let's get the DNA, let's get all of this where
we can get these scientists in here. And basically what
he was saying, let's hold this other stuff late till
later because we don't want to scare off those people,
because we need them to put their stamp of approval,
legitimize at whatever. That's just where it has to be.

(01:51:16):
But I heard that part, like, let's let's get this
first and let's worry about the other part later. There
was people got up and left because they were thinking
that he was saying, like that's not a possibility or whatever.
I looked at my son, I'm like, they misheard what
he said. He said, I heard it too. He alluded to, Hey,

(01:51:38):
there's something going on, but we need to we need
to get them hooked in first and then we can
go to the next step. So I think some of them,
like you said, they're evolving a bit, especially with some
of this UFO stuff that's going on. Some of them
have actually been in all that I know a couple
of the investigators that used to be paranormal investigators and

(01:51:58):
at one point they could and even talk about that, Uh,
it's loosening up. So that's that's that slow that slow
roll slow. Yeah. Yeah, so it's happening now.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I do now after reading some books, I know that
Dad and Moneymaker did not get along. I do know that.
And then and there was you know, money Maker did
say some things. And and again just reading Dad's book,
they there's just some things that were said and and

(01:52:34):
and that's that. That's is what it is. And again
I say all that to say I think that I
think that we're asked. You have to understand that when
there's money involved, and there's a lot of money involved
in Bigfoot, and I have no problem with it. Let
me make that very clear. I make on Bigfoot. Ashley

(01:52:56):
makes money on Bigfoot, Amanda makes money on Bigfoot, Roger
we all do yet yet But but what but I
have no Yeah, but I have no problem with it. Okay, same,
But when But here's the thing is when when someone's

(01:53:17):
paradigm like threatens the money making ability of another person's paradigm,
that person that's trying to protect their income, they can
get really defensive, and I think that's what happened with
Moneymaker and b f R O. I genuinely do so.
Do I do I think what they said is wrong
one hundred percent and what I think they did is

(01:53:39):
wrong one hundred percent? Do I blame them or do
I try to understand where they're coming from too? Yeah?
I can't. I can understand. Do I think what they
did is right? No? But I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
So saying that this slow burn we're talking about, and
and more people accept than the different ideas now they
feel like they can and won't get chastised for or
people turning to yes, right, Yeah, so it's all tied together.
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
But Roger on History Channel, here's a good example. I'm
on the History Channel. They fully admitted to evolution being
bunk theory. They totally admitted to it. Ancient Aliens is like,
you know, you know, evolution, evolution, we can't explain it.
Here's why. You know, there's no way that humans actually

(01:54:32):
evolved from apes. And here's why, here's all the evidence.
We actually believe we came from star people or we
were seated. So they they are they are like proving
scientifically the pan spermia theory. And I'm just like sitting
here just you know, they they would never say this
five years ago, right, and now they are absolutely like

(01:54:55):
showing you on cable TV like scientific eviden it's where
we are not there's no evolution evolutionary there. They can't
explain it. And oh, by the way, Darwin couldn't explain
it either with with beaks. There's no way possible. And
they were totally totally tearing apart. They're there the evolutionary

(01:55:16):
you know, the the evolutionary theory, and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Like, people forget is that it's still a theory.

Speaker 7 (01:55:25):
Theory, not a scientific law.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
And you're right, exactly, that's my platform I stand on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Yeah. And it's funny, Travis, Like, I'm the same as you,
Like they say the same thing for decades and all
of a sudden when you hear something like that, you go, well,
wait a minute, rewind that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Yeah. I was like, we are they allowed to say that?
You know, well, I can't believe this.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Hey, this this is a.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
Great comment military official and I and I cannot remember
who's talking to her why, But it's an official, like
it's not a I it's and it's this guy and
he's like, yeah, we uh we have a Astronauts soldier
on our moon base right now? Did anybody else that
the other day? It's like two weeks ago, and no, I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Did so dryftic Crystal, this is this is a great comment.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Hold on you you'all go do your thing. Hold on,
I'll be right back. I want to show you something.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
You might have to put it back up there. Yeah,
she says, your dad was ahead of his time as well.
He was the first to reveal a certain thing that
so maybe jealous, he was a part of it. Anytime
you're one of the first, uh, you're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Don't be jealous. Yeah, the first you get, you get
all the flat you know. How do I put this?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Well, even if you're trying to prove that a certain
animals were real one hundred and fifty years ago, that
people went through the same thing, right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Man, they Yeah, they went the same thing trying to
prove a gorilla exists. My goodness.

Speaker 7 (01:56:55):
That is my sorry, that's my argument. I have it
like that is literally my argument that you used to
think gorillas were encrypted, and same thing with like the platypus.
How you know they thought it was a tax and
durmy hoax when that oh sorry, that was just a
that was a nerve. Sorry good no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
No, I love it actually I love it so like
I'm like, I'm actually a big nessy like geek. I
love like I want to go look for these things
when it like like we'll go hot, like yes, like
I want to go look for My first love was
doctor Kent Hovine as a kid, and like dinosaurs still exists,

(01:57:34):
you know that that was that was my big thing,
like as five years.

Speaker 7 (01:57:37):
That was a really well done pressure by the way, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
That's that's me. But I wanted to show you guys
something you were talking about. You're talking about you know
how these government officials are talking about uh you know
what what what? How did you put it? I'm so sorry,
like talking about like space things or.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Like soldiers on the moon.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
But yeah, yeah, well I want to show you guys this.
This is something that I had to talk to my
mom about and I had to really kind of get
the nuts and bolts of this, and I talked to
your anspiracy cons So Dad, I don't know if you
guys know this. That was you know, in the air Force.
He had mentioned that several times. So, but Dad was

(01:58:23):
in I and I actually got this the other day
from uh from mom. So this is Dad's Air Force
Jersey or air Force thing he was whatever that is,
y'all can look that up. And I'm terrible that I
don't know it. It is the air Force. But he
was a part of He was a part of communications.

(01:58:44):
There's his communications patch. Dad had higher than top secret
level clearance. Whatever that is. Mom can tell you, like,
I'm going to release it on YouTube here soon and
Mom will described all his stuff, like all these things.
And he was in the occupation of Germany before the

(01:59:04):
wall fell, and Mom talks about it as they were Dad.
Everything was very analog. Okay, so you're talking about, you know,
one wire in, one wire out. But the problem is
is you got to make sure that no one's on
the line. And Dad was making Dad was one of
those that made sure people got to talk to who
they're supposed to talk to and no one else was

(01:59:26):
on the line. That was a big deal. To do that,
you have to be privy to a lot of conversations
that are very up there. So Dad went. Dad went
in four years there and he was going in to
another or he was about to go into another four
year stint. They this is basically what they said, is like,

(01:59:49):
if he were to go in another four years, his
next assignment would be Nora ad and Dad, quote from
my mother said, I'm not going to that blankety blanket.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
MA.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
I know what's there, and I don't want any part
of it. And you do with that information? What you will.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Interesting for sure? And so what that would would you
have been? Was I can't talk this evening. Was you
in the picture? Whenever? All that was going on was you?

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
I was not. I was not created yet ingredient.

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
Yeah, because my parents are always I'm a military brat
as well. Uh, whenever my parents are always telling his
stories about them and everything that was like it was
you around them for that though I wouldn't hear for
that yet. That was before your aunt came along. So
that's how we gauged. That's how we gauged my military career.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
That that stuff us Lee Lee Warner was a staff
sergeant in the US USA Airport Yet the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
That's awesome, I believe you saying that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
Since is that yes, the s c I clearance. Yes, yes,
that Okay, okay, thank you awesome, thank you, Lee. I
appreciate that, but thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
For sharing that with us, because it's like and you know,
it adds we don't need it, but if somebody's there's
there'll be people listening to this on the podcast, and
it just adds a little bit of legitimacy, which we
don't need it, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:22):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
But right it helps with people that.

Speaker 7 (02:01:25):
We obviously had somebody here in the audience who was
air Force and knew what we were talking about. Yes,
it deepens the conversation exactly there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:38):
There's a lot of details that I apologize that I
don't know, like exactly what it is. And like I said,
I'll be able to. I can't wait to release the
you know, the the video with Mom and have her,
you know, tell the stories she is actually she was at,
she was at she was at Spiracy con. So the

(02:01:58):
one thing that I want to talk about that doesn't
get enough talk is my mom. So my mom and
my dad Dad, they did get divorced when I was
really young, when I was eight or nine years old,
but Mom always supported and loved dad. You know, a
lot of people talk about miracles, don't happen. Bull crap.
The fact that my mother and my father still had

(02:02:21):
a decent relationship and loved each other in their own
way after a divorce. That's a miracle when dad. When
Dad died, Mom was by his side, Mom was holding
his hand as he passed, and my stepdad was there
in the room praying over my dad. So if that's

(02:02:43):
not a miracle, I don't know what is. And I'm
I'm being real with you guys. The fact that my mother,
my stepdad and everybody, my sister and my half brother
were there at spiracycon at the booth with me. That's
a big deal. And it's really weird, you know. So

(02:03:06):
we're we're there and we're talking about Dad and it's
you know, we we were telling people this and this
person and I get a little chill, I get chill bumps.
This person literally came up to us and we told
them that they and she said dead things are coming
to life. And I was like, okay, I can't like
and I got the whole It was really weird, not weird,

(02:03:28):
but in a good way. And uh it was. It
was a it was just a really really big deal there.
But my mother always supported dad, and basically and and
she had every skin in the game to say your
dad's crazy or and everything, and she's like, no, your
dad's telling the truth that so so I want to

(02:03:56):
it is it is, it genuinely is like my my sister,
my mom, my step dad, all this like they they did,
They love that, they loved that and and and support
and supported him. And as crazy as this sounds, Dad's

(02:04:16):
death has brought us closer together than we could ever imagined.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
I hear that so many times from different people, for sure. Uh,
speaking of your the extended family there, did any of
them ever go out in the woods with Scott or
go out and have any experiences of their own with anything?

Speaker 3 (02:04:39):
So you're aware, Miranda ever may have before, but not that,
not that I'm aware of. Yeah, it's mostly it was
mostly just just just me and then you know, David
Pilate's and some other folks around the area that would

(02:04:59):
would go with that and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Gotcha. So you know, I went through a similar thing,
uh not quite a year before you did, and you
you don't there's a point where you don't want to
talk about it, and people they're trying to do, you know,
say things and help you out. But you seem like
you reached a point to where now it's like, hey,

(02:05:26):
this is his legacies. He has left and and and
we all know that there are new people coming into
this subject every day, you know, and and keeping keeping
that information and his name out there because he was
such a great teacher, thinker, writer and dad. Obviously, I

(02:05:48):
think it's a great thing that did it. Ever, I mean,
I know if the shoe had been on my foot,
it probably would have taken me a while to where
I could do it. Also, but you had to told
me that so many people uh contacted you and prayed
for you and spoke highly of your dad that it
kind of helped that. Is this something you were going

(02:06:10):
to continue for a long time?

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Absolutely? I I The way I feel about this is,
you know, I told you on the phone. It's like
I didn't want to do this. I told Mom and
Miranda is like, come get this crap and get it
away from me. I don't want any of it, like continuely,
like I didn't care, because again it was for me.
It was like, you know, it was a part of

(02:06:36):
what me and dad talked about, but I did not care.
I just didn't it wasn't my thing. My thing was
I wanted to go out in the woods, bang on
sticks and go hunting. That's that's what I wanted. I
did not care, right, And you know, I feel like
I had ignored. Oh God, I'm gonna be honest with

(02:06:57):
you guys here, and you gotta you gottay with me.
I've always I've always been scared to talk about not
preach the gospel, but talk about God. I've always been
scared that God had been calling me to talk about
him and and to preach about him. And I felt
like I've ignored that. And God, this maybe God taken

(02:07:22):
my dad out. And again that's just crazy to some people,
but I feel like God basically taking him out of
the picture. Seeing he's basically saying, I'm your daddy now,
and you're not going to be able to sit on
the sidelines of this stuff anymore. That there's a lot
more going on and you're gonna have to tell people
about it, and you're just gonna have to stop being
a little whimp about it. You're gonna have to do

(02:07:44):
it or I'm gonna get you know, I'm gonna And
that's the why. Now does that sound crazy? To a
lot of people maybe, and that's fine. But that's the
way I feel about it is and I will be
I will be talking about this stuff for a while
until God tells me to stop. But I think, but

(02:08:05):
I think that, you know, when it comes to the
Sasquatch Awareness Project, there's people that need help and they
need to be told that they're not crazy. And oh,
by the way, I have some some answers. Like I said,
you know, I say, I'm not pushing my faith. I'll
push my faith for a little bit. I have some answers.

(02:08:26):
I have some answers, and my answers are found in
the Bible. And if it has answers for this bigfoot
in dog man and crazy crap, it's sure as heck
has some answers for my life, you know, for my
personal life, for my spiritual walk. So I have answers.
You know, if if you all have the questions I've

(02:08:46):
I've got the answers, and the answers is written and
ricking and written in in in the Bible. Man.

Speaker 7 (02:08:52):
That's that's what I believe, which is such a beautiful
safe Travis, Amanda, do we have that one photo that
we can share with the audience, which.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
One, Oh yes, yes, let me pull that up.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
Y'all. Travis didn't know who we're gonna do this.

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
Man, I appreciate you guys. So, guys, thank you so much.
So what this I want? I'll explain to the audience
what this is. Guys. I'm doing a medical mission trip
with my church here in East Tennessee. We're going down
to Panama into the Dairy and Gap. You guys can
look that up. The Dairy and Gap is not a safe, nice,

(02:09:32):
sweet place. It is definitely not. But and these people,
these people needed help. So one of my best friends,
Jordan Bryant you could look about. He's my absolute best buddy.
He's like, man, I'm gonna leave my first mission trip
and we're gonna go down here and we're gonna do it.
And he's like, well I thought I told him. I

(02:09:53):
was like, well, if you're gonna go down there and
get killed, I ain't gonna let you get killed alone.
Here I come. So but these things cost. These things
cost money us around a couple grand I've got about
twelve hundred dollars saved up for it. I'm about eight
hundred dollars short. Man. The way this cool thing is
is you pick a date and uh, you know, on

(02:10:17):
the day, let's say it's you know, okay, today's the
fourth you just donate four bucks to that little veno.
You're not giving it to me. It's goes straight to
the church. It's just it's just under my name so
they can put it in my account for it and
uh and basically that just be able to pay my
air fare, uh and my nice accommodations on you know,

(02:10:41):
hanging on a tree in the dairy End Gap hotel.
But lots of bug that's oh gosh, buddy, they say, Uh, basically,
lots of bulks pray. I'll be wearing I've got I've
bought uh seven pairs of pants because they said, basically,
after the first day the pants are useless. Uh the way,

(02:11:01):
what what where? Where We're going to be So you know,
we'll uh we'll be I know, yeah, yeah, we'll be
uh we'll yeah, We'll be riding up the river a
day a day, day and a half to go to
these places. And what I'm going to be doing is
I'm going to be bringing readers to the Cooney Indians there.

(02:11:23):
So these Indians how they make their living is they
do bead work, well, they get to a certain age
and and and they can't they can't see. So I'm
going to be bringing readers to them where now they
can see again, you know, they can have those reading stuff.
So it's easy and simple. But I'm just going to
fit reader as many reader as I can in the

(02:11:44):
backpack and here we go. So, uh, while other people
are going to be doing some other medical things. That's
my area of expertise is the vision part of it.
So that if you guys, thanks, If you guys feel
led to donate, that would be great. Uh. If not, don't,
please donate to your local church.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
Right. Well, y'all, it's been two hours and twelve minutes.
I've had a blast.

Speaker 3 (02:12:10):
Yeah, this is great. Thank you so much, Travis as
Travis talk forever me too.

Speaker 1 (02:12:15):
Travis been eat supper for three hours.

Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
It's okay. It's one of those things where I'm like,
I don't want him to hear me eating this. No,
you're true, You're you're a pro with that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
He's been sneaking, y'all, Like, yeah, yeah, you've been.

Speaker 3 (02:12:29):
You've been catching me. I'm like, you know, eating a
little bit of this, a little bit of that that's fine.
I don't need any more calories. By the way, I
got in dad bod.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
So well you got you gotta fatten up before you
go down there.

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
That's the truth. Man, sweat it all out.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Keep we're gonna keep in touch.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
Oh, I'd love to uh love.

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
I appreciate you coming on and sharing, and you know, uh,
probably eight months ago you wouldn't have been ready. And
I'm glad you know that you're ready, and I'm ready
to hear. I'm ready to watch more things. Keep please
keep sharing because things I didn't understand back then because

(02:13:12):
of things we've had happened to us, and and and
things that I've learned your dad. You know that's another thing.
Do you have more appreciation for him now than you did?
I think you answer.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Like like, I'm going through you know, what I'm doing
with is used two is I'm throwing my stuff on there.
I'm doing these interviews, but I'm also trying to throw
his older stuff back up there in a little bit
more digestible ways for folks, because because a lot of
the times, man, like you know, you're going back through
a library, it's so hard to find. So just having
that back in your feed where it's like, Okay, here's this,

(02:13:48):
here's this, here's a reminder of this. It's a lot
of fun, man uh. And and I'm just trying to
do it justice. I'm trying to clean up a few things,
you know, and and trying to make it, like a
SA said, a little bit more digestible for some folks.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
Totaland and we like, like we said, we have new
people coming in all the time. I don't know if
some of us have been chosen to spread the word
or the truth or whatever. But if you need anything,
let me know. I'm sure the girls, you know, you
have our contact information, absolutely, and we'll do this.

Speaker 3 (02:14:20):
They've been great.

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
Yeah, absolutely, well, thank y'all everybody. We could go for
three more hours, I'm sure we could, but we don't
want to burn Travis out.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
And you can always do a part two.

Speaker 3 (02:14:34):
Just come on, come on, yeah, put it on the counter,
that's right, And then and then text me like an
hour before before I forget.

Speaker 1 (02:14:45):
The only rule is not on Saturday at game time.

Speaker 3 (02:14:50):
Yes, So if you really want to make me very upset,
schedule me for something before game time. And yeah, and
don't ask. And I'm a vol fan. I apologize. I'm
a vol fan, mita. It's it is I I it
is a thing that is one of those things that
me and dad could connected with. Man, it's part of

(02:15:13):
it and that's that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
And when I see people with other hats on it.
I'm a big Wall fan and my dad got me
started in that. But the first game I watched, being
the old old guy, was the day herschel Walker ran
over all the Tennessee balls and I almost became a
Georgia fan.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
Right that was a long oh my gosh, exactly, but
it is.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
It's a tradition, it's a connection with your family and
all that. So anyway, it is thank y'all, Thank you ladies,
y'all have anything to say before we go? No, just
except for except for Ashley, because I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (02:15:43):
He's like me.

Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
We could talk. I'm joking, Ashley, I know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
In the comments. Actually before we this is a hey,
t cart, Venmo wants the last four of your phone
number for that, Venmo, So let me actually throw up
your Facebook here and let them just message you privately.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Any of those.

Speaker 3 (02:16:11):
Questions Kenny on the internet.

Speaker 1 (02:16:17):
And Travis.

Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
Here.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
Here's what's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
At least we turned Alexa Off.

Speaker 1 (02:16:23):
Here's what's amazing about that. Kenny just graduated from University
of Alabama. He's a big Alabama fan, so that shows you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:30):
Oh man, that's yeah. Kenny's going through a storm right now,
and I hate it for you. I'm kidding, I'm kiddy, kitty.
I appreciate that. Man. All right, y'all, get it figured out.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
All right, here we go, Thank y'all. We'll see y'all
next week.

Speaker 7 (02:16:48):
We have.

Speaker 3 (02:16:50):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
The Great Spencer Jamison is coming on and we'll we'll
we'll go through his his journey starting out Flesh and
Blood and where he currently is too. I've got to
watch that and it's been pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
So that's I'm excited to meet him.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
Have a good weekend, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:17:09):
Good night, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Bye bye. If I can hit the button,

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