Talking Weird #165 Horrific Mysteries with Bob Antone

Born and raised in the Cascade Mountains, Bob Antone hails from a family of storytellers, artists and musicians. He and his wife Laura have spent years collecting folktales and legends of the Pacific Northwest and beyond. Bob is a tour guide, wood carver, writer, musician, visual artist, historian and public speaker. He and his wife Laura host storytelling gatherings as well paranormal research and walking tours of historical locations. As a result, the couple wrote and published a book in 2019 known as "The Odd Man Up" including a deep dive into North American mythology.

Their anthology of paranormal mysteries and true crime tales is available on Amazon as an e-book. Laura, a registered member of DENE 1st Nations from Fort Liard Northwest Territories Canada, brings her indigenous heritage to the table.

They've recently finished a second book of regional folk tales entitled "By Candlelight: Stories For the Dark" which is scheduled for release soon.

Having listened to countless family tales regarding UFOs, Bigfoot, strange supernatural beings, ghost towns, logging camps, railroaders and bootleggers, Bob Antone brings authentic first hand, and oral histories for all ages and diverse audiences.

Bob and Laura's THE ODD MAN UP is available here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W687ZX9

You can purchase and download LIVE AT THE SUNSET GARAGE the latest album from Bob's band - Tinkham Road - here: https://tinkhamroad.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-the-sunset-garage

Bob, one of Talking Weird's most popular, regular guests, returns to the show for our special month of spooky episodes in the lead up to Halloween. He shares tales of real life horrific, and supernatural mysteries, as only he can!

This is a creepy, fun, and enthralling episode, which even includes a live musical performance from Bob!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Paranormal UFOs, Monsters Mysteries. You're listening to Talking Weird
and No from the Kevin Deep in the Northwards, your host,
Doctor Dean Bertram.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Whoa, whoa. Greetings, my fellow widows and widows, welcome to

(00:45):
Talking Weird on the Untold Radio Network. I'm your host,
Dean Bertram, and this week, as with every week, I'm
delighted to have you with me for the next hour
or so. Whether you're watching the show live when it
goes on Facebook and x and YouTube Thursday's nine pm,
or perhaps you're watching the show archived on one of
those sites after that date, or listening to it where

(01:06):
we go out every Friday now on every audio podcast
platform out there, just about the audio only version, of course.
So welcome, thank you for being with me. I hope
you are getting ready for Halloween. It is getting very
folly up here in the north Woods. The days are
noticeably shorter, and now it's crazy. I'm starting to take
the last of my pumpkins off. Soon I've got some off.

(01:28):
There'll be more coming down off my vines and my
pumpkin patch. I think everything else is out of the garden.
We're hearing all kinds of spooky sounds at night. We
have to run in before it gets too dark when
my daughter and I are outside playing or wandering around
our wooded property, because as soon as she hears any
ol noises. She loves going out watching the migrating birds.

(01:49):
But at the moment she's creeped out by the owls
because some of them, like she says, sounds like monkeys,
and I think she's concerned it's actually sasquatch. But there's
been whatever they are, there's been an awful lot of
them in this neck of the woods at this time
of the year, which is spooky. So it's wonderfully appropriate
as well. Speaking of wonderfully appropriate, we continue this month's

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spooky episodes with tonight's amazing guest. He was born and
raised in the Cascade Mountains, and he hails from a
family of storytellers, artists, and musicians. He and his wife
law have spent years collecting folk tales and legends of
the Pacific Northwest and beyond. He is a tour guide,
wood carver, writer, musician, visual artist, historian, and public speaker.

(02:34):
He and his wife hosts storytelling gatherings as well as
paranormal research and walking tours of historical locations, and they
were instrumental in my feature documentary which I'm still making
and they still are instrumental in it. But when I
went to Maury Island, I very was fortunate enough to
have them as my tour guides there. And as a
result of all the research investigations and you know, storytelling

(02:56):
they do and speaking to people, they've written and published
a book back in twenty nineteen known as The odd
Man Up, which presents a deep dive in a North
American mythology. They've recently finished, I believe a second book
of regional folk tales entitled by Candlelight Stories for the
Dark or that was at least the working title, and
I think that's scheduled to be released pretty soon. So
I'm looking super forward to reading that one. And having

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listened to countless family tales regartning, UFOs, bigfoot, strange supernatural beings,
ghost towns, logging camps, railroaders, and bootleggers, our guest Tonight
brings authentic, firsthand in oral histories for all ages and
diverse audiences. So I'm delighted to welcome back to talking
with my very good friend the one and only mister
Bob Antone. Welcome Bob.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Hello everybody, how y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Man, I'm so glad to have you here. You're such
a perfect guest for a show at this at this
time of the year.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I've got the Unsolved Mysteries T shirt on. I'm sporting
a Bob's Big Boy hat. We just got back from
Los Angeles and when to Bob's Big Boy where David
Lynch used to hang out and he wrote ideas for
Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks at that diner historic location.
This is one of my influences. Our influences is the

(04:13):
Unsolved Mysteries TV show. Obviously many of you are familiar.
You get bonus points if you can figure out what
this comes from which episode. We can't figure it out.
We've been trying to figure out what is this scene?
What episode is this from? So if anybody out there
is a connoisseur of Unsolved Mysteries, please comment, let us know.

(04:36):
We'll send you a gift, We'll send you something in
the mail.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let me make you go full screen so the audience
can see.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh, okay, and I'll get up close. It's kind of
a glare, but there you go.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think's very cool. Super cool. Speaking of super cool,
I can't wait to see some of some of your stories.
What else, what else have you been up to lately?
I know since you were lost on that, you released
another album which will be in the show notes, the
one you recorded, the live album.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, so in January of this year, we recorded live
at the Sensa garage in downtown North Bend, and that
happens to be the place where the jail scenes were
filmed in Twin Peaks And it was a few days
after David Lynch died. So yeah, our band has been
performing around since then. So, but coming up on Halloween,

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I am doing a charity, a fundraiser for the local museum,
the Snoquamee Valley Historical Museum, and I'm going to do
a night of storytelling. The first showing is for kids,
family friendly, and that starts at five o'clock and that's
in Snawamie. And the second showing is at seven and

(05:54):
it's for adults only. So all of the really creepy
and true crime and severed body arts and severed heads
and everything else. We'll be discussing that at a later show.
But we're going to raise money for the Snoqualmie Valley Museum.
Then on November two, which is Sunday, we're going to

(06:14):
go to the town of Mattlock. And Mattlock is in
the Olympic Peninsula and it actually is connected to one
of the stories we're going to be discussing this evening
about the legend of John Turnow. Now, John Turnow was
an outlaw and he would be an early serial killer

(06:35):
of the Pacific Northwest, So we're going to go into
that in a little bit. So that's what we've been
up to. We're just researching, collecting information and getting ready.
I really enjoy offering, you know, stories, especially for fundraisers
and for community organizations. The Mattlock event is also a

(06:55):
fundraiser for their Grange Hall. The grange hall is their
meeting place, a central hub in the community and it
has structural issues. They want to upgrade the kitchen. So
we're going to raise money there on November second. Community
members are going to come together and try to put
together and pull money a stone soup social So that's

(07:19):
what's going on lately.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, I would encourage anybody to get out to anything
that you're at because it's You're always such incredible company,
and you always do so many interesting things, and you're
always so super busy as well, which I always admire.
And people who have so many fires, or so many
irons rather in the fire, and so many fires as well,
perhaps perhaps starting everywhere. And I'm excited. I don't know
very much about is it, John Turno? Is that one

(07:43):
of the stories? Is that? How you pronounce this? Yes?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
John Turno?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So how is my audio? Is my audio okay?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Am I loud? Or is it good?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I think it's okay. I can't fiddle anymore because it's
on order anyway. On your side, I think so Streamyard
won't let me play with it. I think you'd be fun.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
So I'm just talking a little softer than I normally would.
I hope that helps, I think, So okay, all right,
So I'm coming in loud and clear. So here is
the interesting thing about John Turnout. So as you know,
as you well know, this channel is very squatchy. A
lot of folks out there understand the history of J. W.
Burns in BC, Canada, who began to write about Sasquatch

(08:26):
in the nineteen twenties nineteen thirties and that word Sasquatch
is based on the original word Sasketz. How Cooma Lem
that's the tribe and the word is Sasketz. It's interesting
that they got sasquatch out of Sasketz. It seems easier
to pronounce saskets. So anyway, there was all of this

(08:47):
journalism going on, this crazy up over the top writing
about wild hairy men in the woods. And what's strange
is ten years prior to that, we had the story
the Legend of John Turnou and this is in Washington State.
So I'm going to connect the two here in a bit.

(09:09):
So let's just start out at the beginning. So the
legend of John Turnout begins with his birth on September fourth,
eighteen eighty. He was born near the town of Elma.
My aunt Lynne was also from that town. Her family
is from the town of Elma. So if you're thinking
of Kurt Cobain and Aberdeen and Hoquiam, that's that neck

(09:32):
of the woods Gray's Harbor, on the way out to
the Puget Sound in the ocean, Gray's Harbor. And so
he was born in eighteen eighty and a logging family.
They were involved in logging about ten years old, John
got the black measles, and so he was disfigured. He
developed a lisp, and he started to withdraw from society.

(09:56):
He spent a lot of time by himself in the woods,
and he would he would go by himself and just
stay by himself, and he didn't want to see people
at all. He felt self conscious, and at some point
he got a job as a logger when he was
thirteen years Oldlieve or not, people started working in the
woods as young as twelve and thirteen. He worked for

(10:17):
a company for a while, and then suddenly his father
passed away and it was a shock to the family.
He came back home, and then right around that same time,
his mother fell and broke her hip, and so he
was grieving. He already had this issue with his face
and the way he felt about himself and his lisp.

(10:38):
And so then his mother was being taken care of
by a relative, a close relative, a young woman, and
then suddenly she became pregnant, and it was a mystery
who got her pregnant, right, she carried the baby a
long way and then suddenly was rushed to the hospital
and gave birth, and it was a stillborn, and then

(10:59):
she promptly died during the childbirth. And the interesting part
of it is that the doctor was arrested on suspicion
of murder. And that's a whole nother story. But you
can see all these things are stacking up, and John
turnout is just totally bombarded with all this grief and
loss and sorrow. And then his mother passes away, and

(11:23):
this is where it starts to get interesting. So upon
her passing, the will came out, and all of the
siblings found out that John inherited all four hundred acres
of land. She willed all four hundred acres of land
to John, and that angered the brothers, and so this

(11:45):
escalated over the years, and they were very angry that
he inherited the four hundred acres. And one day they
got into a big argument and John's brother shot John's dog,
and so John turned around and got a gun and
then off went after his brother's dog and shot his dog.
And then he said, point Blankie said, I am going

(12:06):
to be leaving now. I'm going out in the woods.
You're never going to see me again. I don't want
to be living in society at all. I'm out of here,
so he went out in the woods. Now, these brothers,
these siblings, they wanted to have this land. You see,
they really really hungered. They wanted to somehow get around
the will. So in order to do that, they had

(12:27):
to prove that maybe their brother was insane. And that's
exactly what they did. They went to the sheriff's office.
They reported him a vagrant, that he was mentally unstable.
They went out and somehow they kidnapped him or they
they basically against his will, took him to They took
him to a mental institution in Portland, Oregon, And so

(12:49):
two weeks later John escaped. Okay, John escape went back
to the woods. This guy was an excellent woodsman. He
knew how to survive. He could do anything he could,
you know, he was very, very skilled. So he had
a sister named Minnie. He loved his sister Minnie. He
would visit her often. And Minnie had two twin boys,
and the two twin boys were his little buddies. And

(13:12):
he would teach his nephews everything he knew about trapping, hunting,
everything taught him how to survive in the woods. So
the two twin boys, they went out looking for their uncle.
They were hunting and they came across a bear that
was eating a carcass, and they opened fire on this bear,

(13:35):
and the story goes they didn't know that their uncle's
camp was right up beyond that. So Uncle John had
taken a steer and for survival for meat, he had
started to butcher his sister's steer, and they didn't know
that his camp was up that direction. So when they
started shooting at this bear, John heard this gunfire coming

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at him and so he returned fire, and the story
goes that he killed both of his nephews, shot them
through the heart, and this is where the man hunt began.
This is where the man hunt began, and it lasted
one year and seven months. So the nephews were found dead.

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Everybody knew that he loved his nephews, so it was
either a setup they were trying to make him look
bad because they wanted this four hundred acres of land,
or it was an accident because everybody knew that he
loved his nephews. And so for one year and seven
months they had parties of dogs and posse's of two
hundred men going through the woods. This is north of Aberdeen,

(14:40):
North of Hope, William. This is up in the woods.
It's called the Weinoche Valley River Valley, and so he
was hiding out. He used frogs as an alarm system.
So he knew that when people would come near frogs
that are croaking a wetland. This is like a rainforest, right,

(15:02):
so frogs would stop croaking, so he could sense that
people were coming up the path, and so he could hide.
He had all these ways of hiding. They couldn't find
this guy. They couldn't find him. So in March of
nineteen twelve, two Shehalis County Sheriff's deputies Colin Mackenzie and
A v Elmer they went on the hunt for Turnout

(15:24):
near the town of Matlock. Now this is the town
that I'm going to be performing at in November, November
two and they were never heard from again. They just
disappeared and they vanished into the woods. And so two
weeks later they found their bodies and they were just
under the earth, but they were buried in a tea.
So their bodies I guess spelled the word or the

(15:46):
letter T for Turnout and so man, they were just furious.
People were furious. So at this time everybody all over
the area. They had this legend that was growing of
this wild man and he was the devil. He was
possessed by a demon. He was half human half beast.
They called him the man Beast and the timber Beast.

(16:10):
So they literally thought that this guy was possessed by
a demonic spirit, that he was part creature. You know,
he could be a skin walker, he could be a
wind to go type thing. And so this guy was
walked around and people every time someone went missing, they thought, oh,
John got him. You know, kids would look out in
the woods and they'd see some kind of figure and
they thought, oh, they had a sighting. They'd see and

(16:32):
they were scared. Everybody was petrified. They were so afraid
of this guy. And it was in all the newspapers,
so it made all the newspapers, you know, internationally this
man hunt for John turnout that people were so scared
it'd shut down logging operations. So Simpson logging they were
very active at that time around matt Locke and Shelton

(16:56):
and up into the peninsula there. The folks settlers there,
the workers, the loggers, they were leaving. They were eager
to get out of the area. Because they were all
afraid of this guy, and kids would come right home
from school, they would stay inside, they'd shut themselves in.
This guy was a beast, and the legend just kept
growing and growing, this wild man. And so finally it

(17:20):
came to a culmination in April of nineteen thirteen and
there was a there was a shootout. So if you
go twenty nine twenty nine miles up the Weinoche River,
there's a place up there. And they found his camp
finally in April of nineteen thirteen, and so there were

(17:43):
several law enforcement that were shot in that incident, and
he killed John Quimby, who was one of the law
officers in and then Sheriff Matthews the next morning was
first on the scene. They found the bodies. They had
retreated the night before after this big shootout. It was
just this massive shootout and they retreated and then they

(18:03):
came back the next morning and they sure enough they
found John there he was, and so everybody was like,
finally this is over. So they got the body of
John and they packed it from this remote camp and
they took his body along the river that Whyci River,

(18:24):
and along the way. Everybody wanted to take a picture
with this legendary man beast. There he is and there's
two gentlemen standing and posing with him. Everybody wanted to photograph.
They came down and then finally they got to Monteseno.
Monteseno is really close to Aberdeen. It's really close to Hoquiam.
That's all Kurt Cobain's, you know, Nirvana Kirk Cobain, that's

(18:47):
where he was from. And they finally got to Monticeno,
and believe it or not, fifteen hundred or more people
showed up, men, women, children, These were settler families and
they just wanted to see this creature, this man beast,
and so they all came in and they took pieces

(19:08):
of his clothing, they cut off pieces of his hair.
Everybody took a keepsake. It was this amazing thing. So
this whole cultural phenomenon of John Turna, the devil of
the Winouchi River Valley, that was it a culminated in
nineteen thirteen. So if you think about it, if you
were a journalist up in Canada and you wanted to

(19:32):
one up this story because JW. Burns, JW. Burns, he
was obviously aware of this story. He's very close he
was in British Columbia, so he would have absolutely pushed
you know, his story even further because they wanted to
sell newspapers. A lot of time back then, newspapers were
part of the entertainments before you know, silent film and

(19:55):
that kind of thing, and a lot like pulp fiction.
You talked about Ray Palmer and you know, own upon
these fantastic stories. So just imagine you're trying to one
up John Turnau. So you've got this, Oh, I've got
this story about Sasquatch, these wild men, and so Yellow
journalism people were exaggerating and just taking it so far.

(20:17):
They're talking about wild men that lived in another dimension
and they had little bits and pieces. So for you
folks out there who don't necessarily believe in sasquatch, but
you're you're more of like a scientific approach where you're
skeptical and you want to follow that trail, this is
this is kind of an out for you. I mean,
you could, you could follow the trail of yellow journalism.

(20:40):
And I believe this is one of my theories is
that the legend of John Turna sort of spurred some
of the later Sasquatch legends because it's not that far away.
It's just a few one hundred miles north. That's where
the reporting came in the nineteen twenties and thirties, and JW.
Burns absolutely would have known about this case. This was

(21:03):
this took the whole country by storm. So that's all.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that's fascinating. I didn't know anything about the story
until you sent me some materials before the show. But
that parallel that you draw with the area already being
so conscious of wild men at the dawn of you know,
the I suppose anglicization of sasquatch stories. That's there's a

(21:35):
book in that. I hope you and Laura think about
writing it.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah. If someone out there has written a book like
that or put those two things together, that's fantastic. I'm
happy to hear that.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
So, I mean, you guys should do it. If not,
I mean it should be in I don't know if
there's any room left in your next book or not
that's coming out. Maybe there could be a chapter just
about the tying in that to the the Sasquatch legend.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's not a bad idea, not a bad idea. So
I've got the title of this segment is horrific mysteries,
and so that was the first horrific mystery. I guess
you could say that's our first really well documented serial
killer of Washington State. There's probably other ones before that,
but that's a really famous one and in a very

(22:23):
early one. So I've got a couple other stories that
are horrific, and one of them has a song, and
i think I'm going to perform that song.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
If that's okay with you.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, all right, So I'm going to just jump into it.
If anybody has any questions, I might pause for a
second and see if anybody has any questions.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'll keep an eye on it as well in the
In the chat, people will commenting. Obviously, some people were
obviously shocked by it. It's a heck of a story
that nobody's heard about. Some people felt sorry for John Turner.
I mean, and I think i've redden one of the
things you sent me. You told me the frog the
part of the frog story, and I'll just say this
why we're wedding in case anybody does have any questions.

(23:05):
But you said he used the frogs as the alarm system,
but apparently he was living on frog made as well.
One of the theories went, I, yes, I read it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So they call frogs out here the crab of the woods.
So they call you know, it's very common for people
to eat frogs, and it's like crab meat.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I guess I've had it before.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
It kind of does. It does taste similar, but it
was a it was a common food for for folks
living on the peninsula and then throughout the Puget Sound. Yeah,
and the next story I'm going to tell you this
is this is I've told the story before, but I've
never performed the song. So here goes. So it was

(23:49):
nineteen ninety nine. By the way, is my voice it's
still pretty good. I'm just keeping it low. No, you
hope it's not distorted or anything.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's not distorted. It's good.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay, good because I know the mic was pretty hot
when we started, so okay, all right. So back in
nineteen ninety nine, my uncle Joe Roarback, he and I
were working. I used to frame houses, you know, That's
what I used to do in my twenties. I used
to frame houses, and I was a carpenter. I was
on framing cruise and I'd worked with my uncles and

(24:18):
so my uncle Joe Roreback and I had worked a
full day and he went home and he came to
his little rental cabin located at Echo Lake, which is
the junction of Interstate ninety and Highway eighteen. And so
he came to the back sliding glass door of his

(24:40):
cabin and he looked down in the dog dish, and
what did he see. He saw a hand, And he thought, oh, yeah,
my son's playing a trick on me. And so he went, oh,
I'm so scared. And he picked up the hand and
he brought it up to his face and then he
realized he could smell rotting flesh. So he realized this

(25:05):
was a real severed hand. He dropped the hand on
the floor. He kind of threw up on himself. He
ran over to the phone and he dialed nine to
one one and he called law enforcement. They called the FBI. Now,
the FBI brought in the Green River Task Force. So
the Green River Task Force was responsible, you know, for

(25:29):
investigating all of the Green River killings. So they were
trying to investigate to see is the severed hand something
in line with the Green River killer And they not
only did they find one body, a female from Tacoma
that had been dismembered and discarded. But they found more
than one victim. They found several bodies in the woods

(25:54):
right behind my uncle Joe's house where he was renting.
So the detective gave my uncle card and he says,
keep your eyes open and if you see anything suspicious,
I want you to call me right away. So Joe,
you know, thank you, took the card. And then about

(26:16):
a month later he came home from work and there
was a van, this creepy van that was parked in
this one gravel parking lot. And he suddenly realized that
he had seen that van a lot. That van had
been there quite a bit. And then around the time
that he found the severed hand, his dog Mongo. By

(26:38):
the way, m Nngo, that's the name of the dog
that drug the hand out of the woods. I got
to give Mongo credit because that's who actually found a hand. Anyway,
he realized at the time that Mongo the dog found
the hand and drug it out of the woods. This
van was nowhere to be seen. It was gone, and
it was gone for a month afterwards, and so he's like,

(27:00):
oh my god, there's got to be something. He got
a gut feeling. He's like, there's got to be something
to this, right, So he called the detective the card
that he had been given, and sure enough, the law
enforcement came in. They surrounded this van. They had somehow
they had probable cause to inspect the vehicle, and what
do you know, they found evidence. And this is one

(27:22):
of the early DNA cases, because this was nineteen ninety nine.
DNA evidence was just right there on the cusp. You know,
that was right when they were using DNA. And so
they actually tied and they proved beyond a shadow of
doubt that these two men that were in this van
were the perpetrators. They were able to prove that they

(27:44):
had killed not only this one woman who my uncle
found her separate hand, but several victims, all of them
from the Tacoma area. I don't know what it is
about Tacoma, but Tacoma has a has a history of
serial killers. Now, the interesting thing about this before I
play the song, so stay tuned, I'm going to perform
this song. I gotta go get my guitar. But the

(28:06):
Hillside Stranglers you may have heard of the Hillside Stranglers.
Now the Hillside Stranglers were also from Tacoma, or so
I've been told. They moved down to Los Angeles and
they had a van. This was in the late seventies, right,
and they would impersonate police officers. And the Hillside Stranglers
were also from Tacoma. So here's twenty years later and

(28:26):
there's two gentlemen in a van. It's like, the mystery
is were they trying to be Was it a copycat?
Were they trying to be like the Hillside Stranglers? Was
it a repeat thing? I don't know. I would like
to know more about it, but all of the information
I shared with you has been validated, you know, through
my uncle and his experience, and I've looked up online.

(28:50):
I know the event happened, and I know it was solved.
So just give me a second, Dean, I've got a
run and get my guitar. I'll be right back, Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I always love having Bob on because he has so
many absolutely fascinating stories to tell. Tacoma, of course, was
a part of a big part of the origin of
flying sauces, with the Maury Island incident happening just off
the coast there between between Tacoma and the island Maury

(29:22):
Island in the Pugean Sound, and and Fred Chrisman the
History of course from Tacama. But I will let mob
now play.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, absolutely, no, I want to know if this sounds?
Can you hear this? Okay, it's not too louder, Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
In the woods they found a hand by a man
by man. The man that found a hand, his name
was Joel. His dog brought in home and put.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It in a boat. To find a body you don't
have fartago. Yeah, the FBII came and police been in
some dogs. They sniffed around the woods into the night.
The very next day they found it where it lay.
It must have been a pretty ugly sight. It's a

(30:23):
sick world when you're an ugly girl. When you're a
pretty girl, it must be worse.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Was it a patchet? Maybe a knife or two, maybe
a nail gun that finished you?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Dog rotted home and put it in a bowl to
find a body you don't have farago.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
This is where the flesh flute solo comes in, right trumpet?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Sorry, here we go, guys, You ready if.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
You're up for Burt and you got buddy rags stuffed
in the back of your El Camino.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Then I will run you right off the road. I
will cut off your yellow Winger. I will cut it off.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Is dog rod in home and put it in the
ball find a body.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, turn it up, man.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Amazing, man, I think a lot of people in the
chat were enjoying it as well. You don't. There's not
many podcasts in the paranormal space where you're gonna get
a talent like you actually playing playing an original song.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
So oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, it was It's amazing. I'm always staggered with not
only your your ability is like a paranormal research and
a storyteller, but your musical ability, Like you play about
a dozen instruments or something right, Like you play a
bunch yeah, and you knock out all these incredible songs,
including music which you're kindly letting me use in, which

(32:21):
is just incredible. In the man who invented flying sources.
But all of your music is great. And I think
there's a link in the show notes. We're on band camp.
People can buy your most recent live album, but I'm
pretty sure if they go there then they can click
through to Tink and Road your band and I can
see a T shirt and behind you on the left
there I have that tink and Road T shirt myself,
which I brought from you. Road is great, such a

(32:44):
great I encourage people to hunt out and they can
hear some of the songs on YouTube. But go and
support Bob, buy some of them. Buy a Tinker Road
album on band camp. You won't regret it. My daughter
and I listened to it all the time, like we've
got one when the truck it's always on a we've
got one old fashion trucks. We've got a a sad
spindle with like six different so we've always got a
Tinkam Road in that. We always play it when we're

(33:05):
driving along. Thank you. Great story.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
So my favorite part of the song is when I
do the nail gun the nail gun sound, so that's
kind of fun. So anyway, here's here's a little quick
unsolved mystery. It's not so it's not so uh grizzly
or anything. But yeah, So when I used to frame
houses a long time ago, I was framing a garage
area and I remember at the time, I was using

(33:31):
a nail gun and I was overheating. I was so hot,
you know, and I was just sweating and sweating, but
for some reason I heard this voice and it said,
put your jacket on.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I was like, put my jacket on.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Why would I do that? Why would I want to
put my jacket on? Right, I'm super hot, I'm sweating.
So I went over and I grabbed a wool Filson
jacket and I put it on, and I just listened
to that voice, and I got back up in the
rafters and here I was. I was shooting the nail
gun and then at one point I lost my balance, right,

(34:06):
I lost my balance, and that nail gun went like this,
And if I wasn't wearing, gosh, that wool jacket, I
would have basically just cut my jugulars. I would have
bled out and just died. And so the punchline of
this story is that that woolf Pilson jacket used to

(34:27):
belong to my mom's dad, So it's my grandfather's jacket.
So kind of cool. I like the idea of guardian angels,
especially family members who come and save you from death
or harm. That's that's a nice subject to talk about.
I've got a couple more stories like that too.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So I won a questions yeah, I'm happy too. Just
people commenting like Flat Rookland, who's been a guest on
the show before. Matt Auckland was saying how he hoping
to catch up with the giga yours in North Bend
sometimes because he lives in your part of the world
as well. But it's it's such an appropriate time of
the intertok about the spirits of the deceased and spirits

(35:08):
of our loved ones, because of course that's part of
the Halloween tradition, is the idea that the veil goes
down the dead look.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
In you know, absolutely, Yeah, So I like to jump
around a little bit. I'll continue on that course. So
I was talking about my mom's dad and how you
know his jacket saved me from a nail in my neck.
So now I'm going to talk about something that she
was involved in. So in about nineteen ninety at that

(35:36):
time in this town, we left our doors unlocked. We
never locked doors or anything, and people just would leave
their doors unknocked all day long. Nobody nobody ever got robbed, right,
nobody cared. And so my mom came home, she had
to get ready for an event, she had to change
her clothes and she went upstairs in the bedroom, and
she stopped right in the bedroom door, and she had

(35:58):
a feeling, I'm not going to go inside the bedroom,
you know, and everything looked normal, it was quiet, but
she just had this gut feeling like, yeah, I'm gonna
I'm gonna change later, and there'd be no reason why
she wouldn't change right then because she had to go
to an event. So she turned around, walked back down
the stairs, got in her car. She drove around for
like ten minutes, then came back again, and she was

(36:20):
kind of feeling something strange and she didn't see anything right.
And then about an hour later she went in she
went into this event, and then about an hour later
she came back and the house had been completely ransacked
and robbed, and so everything was knocked over, you know,
you could tell that they had stolen everything they could
you know, things were knocked over and dressers were you know,

(36:42):
you know, just totally everything was in a disarray. So
when they investigators went upstairs, they went into my parents'
bedroom and in the closet there was this rolled up
shirt and it was like someone was in the closet,
and if she would have walked in they would have
just strangled her to death. But something told her not

(37:05):
to go into the bedroom that day. And she can't
explain it, but there was just this warning and she
could just feel it, but there was no visual cue,
there was no other warning. It's just a spiritual feeling.
So I always thought about that if my mom walked
through the door, I may not have my mom today.
So that's another interesting story.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's crazy. Yeah, and it's interesting too, like do we
pick up on those things somehow subconsciously? Do we have
some type of I don't know, an extra sensory perception
perhaps where we're aware that there's, you know, something wrong.
And now maybe that's what the gut instant is, or

(37:43):
perhaps is the case clearly seems to be when you
put that jacket on, there seemed to be some actual
message genuinely beyond warning us or warning you in that case.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, Oftentimes you hear about quantum physics and you think
you hear about a particle that's way, you know, thousands
of miles of way, and it can be connected to
and behaving the same way as a particle, like two
different particles. Well, if we're related to somebody where we
have their DNA, we're physically related. Maybe that could explain
connections over long distances or the spirit world. I'm going

(38:15):
to jump around as some unsolved mysteries that are kind
of fun, and then I'm going to end with another
kind of grizzly, horrific mystery. But I just kind of
want to have some fun with some maybe some lighthearted mysteries.
There's a place called Scukum Lake. Scuokum Lake is in
Washington State again, and there's a story that a woman

(38:36):
named Sheila Faubus told me her and her father and
sister went camping one summer in the late nineteen seventies
early nineteen eighties, and so, you know, they went camping
at Lake Scucum, and I guess things were going okay,
and you know, but the girls weren't having a good time.
It was kind of raining a little bit and there,

(38:57):
you know, they were complaining. They were younger, and so
Dad said, okay, we'll pack up, we'll go home. And
so they packed up everything, put it back in the car,
and just as they were leaving, just as they were leaving,
this whole family of little people came out of the woods.
The two sisters saw them and the father, Now, the dad,

(39:18):
mister Fauvis, was a school teacher at Snoqualmie Middle School,
and so he was a no nonsense guy. I mean,
he taught like science and you know, he was you know,
he didn't make up stories. And so of course he
saw these little people and she described it as, you know,
two and three foot tall wearing earth tone clothes, like

(39:39):
primitive clothes. Some of them had sort of you know,
pointed hats, you know, kind of pointed hats, so kind
of like a gnome, but a little different, little different
and earth tones, you know, that kind of thing. And
there was a woman, a little tiny woman, the little
people that came out, and she smiled at these two
girls in the family. She just waved at him and

(40:02):
the two sisters in the back of the car there
they waved back, and the dad saw the whole thing.
So when they got back to Slawom Middle School, of
course the work got around town, you know, and so
they were asking about, oh, I heard your daughter saw
little people, you know, and they were teasing her. They
were teasing her, giving her a hard time, and you know,
they were relentless about it. But I really got a

(40:24):
hand it to the father. He didn't back down, and
he backed up his daughter. He said, yes, I did
see those little people, and I'm not going to change
my story. They actually were there. I saw them, and
he verified it. And so I thought that was a
really sweet, sweet thing that he did. He backed up
his daughter in that story. So there you go. There's
a nice mystery.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
That's a great story. And any anything involving the fairfolk
or the other crowd or you know, little people, I'm
fascinated to hear. It's a great story.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Here's one about Mel's Hole. Everybody, I'm sure everybody is
familiar with Host to Coast am with Art Belt and
there's a famous phone call, and you know, the story
is that there's a hole in the ground over in
eastern Washington called Mel's Hole. And you know, I've heard
this for years and years, and I'm sure a lot

(41:16):
of your audience knows exactly what I'm talking about. So
last summer, not this, not twenty twenty five, of the
summer of twenty twenty four, I played music with a
rodeo writer named CJ. Traylor. So and we played a
concert for the Ellensburg Rodeo Association, and so we were

(41:36):
over in Ellensburg and I played, you know, country music
and cowboy songs and stuff like that. I played my
fiddle and all that was fun. It was great. But
after the show I got to talking to the Rodeo
Association and there was this one woman. I have her name,
I wrote it down. I have her phone number. She
happens to be a fifth generation farmer Ranching family from

(41:58):
kid A Task, Washington. So she grew up and her
family has been there, you know, one hundred and fifty years,
right at the base of Autonum Ridge. And I asked
her point blank, I said, I said, I just got
to know, is Mel's hole real? And she looked at
me and she says, absolutely real. Yes. And I looked

(42:20):
her in the eye and I was waiting to see
if she's like flinching or maybe playing with me or
teasing me. Nothing. No, she was absolutely serious, and she
is willing to follow up and actually talk, you know,
further about it. But she says she's been there, and
she said the claims are true and she knows exactly
where it is. And I'm like, whoa. So I have

(42:40):
her phone number. I don't know. I haven't yet gone
out to that spot. And I would like to. You'd
probably think by now I would have like said, hey,
can you take me to that spot? But I guess
we're so busy that sounds pretty lame. I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Man, Man, you have to get in touch with her
and go out to middle all goodness sakes. Absolutely, that's
a fantastic story.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I love that too. I agree.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I remember from the old art Bell days. I mean
I used to only able in the early days. I
could only ever listen to it if I was visiting America.
But then of course you would find them, you know,
and the net got bigger. You would find copied, you know,
episodes which people shared on the Internet. And the Mells
whole story is one of the classic art Bells shows,
one of the classic stories. You know.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Maybe when you're out here again, let's take your lady friend,
let's go we're going to go on road trip. Let's
go find Mel's hole. I think that would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Oh my god, there's a short documentary and that at
least maybe feature depending what we find.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Oh my god, totally.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
There is an incredible documentary I've seen recently. I don't know,
when you talk about films, that I won't say whether
it's a submission to the festival or not because I shouldn't.
But an amazing documentary called The Whole, which isn't about
mel Whole, but it's about this strange hole that was
discovered on on on the side of Mount Shasta and

(44:09):
Mount Shastra of course, is filled with all these ideas
of and the documentary goes in all kinds of weird
and wonderful places. It just unravels. I mean, I love
the film so very much. It's not out yet, so
nobody can see it yet. It's on the festival circuit,
but there's probably space for a Melshole documentary, particularly if,
but particularly if you can get me to the location.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Absolutely seriously, I love we love helping other writers and
filmmakers like there's We're generous and so absolutely I'm not
hoarding any of this information, So anybody wants to know,
and I will share the contact. I don't care. I
give it to you first, though, I give it.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, no, don't don't share it with anybody. There might
be there might be at least a short documentary for us.
Nobody contact Bob and ask him for this thing, because
I'll be like, Bob, don't give this contact to anybody.
We're going to Mel'shole next summer. Anyway, No great story.
I really really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Okay, I'm gonna jump around a little bit more if
you guys want. I mean, I don't know. If anybody
has any questions, please shoot because I like to. It's
like you go to Sizzler and you get the sampler plate,
you get a little bit of everything. That's how I
like to do these shows. It's just fun. Okay. So
we're gonna go to Los Angeles and we're gonna go
to Pershing Square. So you know the Cecil Hotel. It's

(45:23):
a famous hotel where Richard Ramirez, the serial killer, he
lived at the upper floors and you know he you know,
he was a serial killer in Los Angeles. And you know,
that's also the location of that young lady who she
was seen on camera and she was talking in the
elevator and it was like she was talking to these
strange beings or somebody that wasn't there. Very odd. And

(45:47):
then she was found later on the roof of the
Cecil Hotel in a water tank, and that was a
whole mystery of how she ended up naked in this
water tank. Famous stories. Well two blocks away from that,
I think two or three blocks. A couple of blocks
away from the CISA Hotel is a place called the
Pershing Square. Now there is a famous ghost there which

(46:09):
is a Native American woman, And so folks in the
area claim that every once in a while they'll see
a Native American woman and she's floating about three or
four feet above the sidewalk and she just walking, just walking.
So it turns out that historically there was a woman
that used to wash her dishes and she used to
bathe in what was the first aqueduct before it was

(46:33):
the La River in its current state, there used to
be called something called the Sanja Madre, which means the
mother ditch. And it was like the first effort of
irrigation in Los Angeles, and it was an aqueduct, you know,
but she against the law. I guess they arrested her,
and you know, it was controversial. She would insist on

(46:53):
washing her clothes and washing her dishes and taking a
bath at that exact spot. And so it the aqueduct
used to be three or four feet above where the
current sidewalk is, so that could explain why she's seen
hovering in mid air. But if you're ever done in
Los Angeles, they do have a wonderful ghost tour and

(47:13):
that is part of the ghost tour. You just have
to look up Los Angeles Ghost Tours. But it's I
just love that story personal square.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, that's a great story.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
The goats still down in the hole, What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I think males, I think mal might have thrown a
goat down. I'm sorry, I sometimes I click things all that.
I'm going to take that awesome from.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
No, that's okay, okay. So I want to do a
little journey over to Ukraine and we're going to talk
about UFOs in Russia. Why not, let's do it, all right,
And we're also going to talk about film history. So
I have heritage on my dad's side, my mom's sides.
I wish I've talked about that before, but my dad's side,

(48:00):
we came from the Ukraine, which used to be Russia. Now,
there is a very very famous silent film that is
it was filmed in nineteen twenty five and Sergei Eisenstein
and it's called The Battleship Potempkin and so amazing film

(48:21):
and in fact, Alfred Hitchcock. This is a little bit
of trivia for those out there. Alfred Hitchcock and you
know the famous Psycho, the film Psycho. He was greatly
influenced by some of the Soviet filmmakers. He went to
school in Berlin and one of the films that he
saw was Battleship po Tempkin. And if you look at

(48:44):
that scene, you can look it up on YouTube, you know,
you can say the Potempkin steps scene, and I've actually
been to those steps, and it's an example of montage.
So like when you see in Psycho, the way that
Alfred Hitchcock would cut different scenes and create different emotions,

(49:04):
almost like surrealism. He was greatly influenced by this particular film.
And what's awesome is when we went to Ukraine, I
stood on those steps and the Potempkin steps, and I
watched it today a couple times. And I'm telling you,
it's one hundred years old, this film footage, but it's
still very disturbing. It gives you the chills. You're like wow,

(49:26):
and you can see why folks were greatly influenced. Even
though this was a film about the Russian Revolution, the
actual story is a group of sailors. There was mutiny
on the battleship Potempkin in nineteen oh five. These sailors
were muteness and you know, they revolted and that was
the beginning of the Russian Revolution and the whole city

(49:49):
of Odessa. You know, everybody was rioting and they were
shooting everybody and massacring everybody at that time. That's the
true story. But in the film they portray a bunch
of folk that are standing and peaceful and waving at ships,
and suddenly the troops come in and just start opening fire.
There's a famous scene with a baby carriage that's just

(50:10):
rolling down the Potempkin steps. So when we went there
in twenty eleven, we went to Ukraine and visited Odessa.
It was a heritage tour. We went to those steps,
and I encourage anybody who's a film connoisseur, who is
a horror movie buff and you're interested in maybe Alfred Hitchcock,

(50:31):
and I think Twilight Zone was also influenced by this film,
this silent film Battleship Potempkin. So while we were in
the Ukraine, our tour guide mentioned flying saucers UFOs, and
I thought Okay, I got to tell Dean and the
audience about this. So apparently her mother out in the countryside,

(50:53):
she had this encounter, and you got to know that
the area like north of Odessa, like one hundred miles north.
It's so rural and so like isolated. It's like people had,
you know, electricity, but not very much you know, plumbing.
They had outhouses and it almost was reminiscent of, you know,
a village of one hundred years ago, because each house

(51:15):
had a cow of their own. And at the end
of the day, each cow would come down the main
driveway or the main the main road in the middle
of Christina, and they knew every little house, they knew
where they belonged. They would go in their barn and
each cow had a little different bell, you know, a
different sounding bell, and we were there for the processing
of cows and it was so cool. So each house

(51:36):
has a cow to provide them with milk and all
that very rural. And so anyway, this woman she was
out there and at night walking around in the middle
of this pasture in this field. It looks a lot
like Yakamah over there, it looks a lot like Ellensburg.
It's just fields and fields and fields, you know. And

(51:57):
so suddenly above her this big spotlight, I guess appeared,
but it was silent, almost like close encounters of the
third kind. And there was an object above her, and
it was this huge spotlight. And as she ran, this
spotlight kind of followed her. This was in the sixties,
this was in the nineteen sixties. But there was no sound,
it was silent. So and then suddenly the light turned

(52:21):
off and she looked up and there was nothing above her,
nothing above her. So just amazing. And so there's a
lot of stories about UFOs seen around that area of Odessa,
in the countryside, and so you wonder, you know, was
that a UFO. But you could also think that maybe
the Soviets were experimenting, you know, maybe they were you know,

(52:43):
developing crafts of different kind and they were trying them
out at night, that kind of thing. But there's a
little UFO story from Russia slash the Ukraine. Yep.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Wow, man, there's not many people that would go be
able to go from you know, turn of this nineteenth
twenteenth century serial killers, through personal ghost stories, through modern
serial killers to comparing Bigfoot two old serial killer stories,
to la ghost stories, to UFO Russian stories, to Eisenstein's

(53:15):
theories about about about montage. So there you go. Yes,
I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I enjoy it, and so yeah I do. Have you
know one more story we can I can wrap it
up within let's think it's seven fifty eight. I could
probably do it within.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Man, take as long as you need to tell the story.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Okay. Now, this is a little bit of dark comedy,
and I encourage you guys to laugh even though this
is going to make you a little uncomfortable. It is
dark comedy and it's it's true and it's crazy, and
I'm just saving the best for last. Here here we go. Okay,
So back in two thousand and seven and eight, we

(53:59):
used to have a vegetable and produce stand out in
front of our house and the farmers were Mong Hmong. Now,
in the late seventies a lot of Mong refugees came
from Laos and Thailand and they moved to this area.
There's also a community in Fresno, California, and I know
in Wisconsin, Minnesota there are mom communities. Well, we have

(54:23):
one here as well, and we invited the farmers to
set up in front of our house, and it was wonderful.
And my kids were young and we used to get
you know, green beans and fresh fruit, and you know,
we were part of the stand and it was really
fun and we got to know the community and became
part of that community. It was a wonderful experience. Well,
the lady, I'm not going to use her name. I

(54:45):
would call her a tradition bearer, you could say, a
medicine person within the Mong community. She had very very,
very very special abilities. She had clairvoyant abilities.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
And so.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
At certain times, a man named Ted would drive up
and he would want to buy some produce. And every
single time that Ted drove up, she would pick up
her chair and she would go back into the grass
and she would cross her arms like this. She just avoided.
She'd just shake her head. She goes, I won't help

(55:18):
this guy at all, She's like, and she didn't say words,
she just shook her head. She was like forty fifty
feet away. So I ended up helping, you know, make
the transaction. Took his money, widhe his fruit and his vegetables,
and sent him on his way. And everybody loved Ted.
Oh my gosh, he was the nicest guy. He was
a substitute teacher for Snowuamie Valley School District, and everybody

(55:41):
knew him. He had a little chihuahuah and he the
kids loved him. He would bring his little dogs into
the classroom and oh my god, everybody loved loved Ted.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Ted.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
My mom, Oh Ted's wonderful. Oh I love Ted, Oh
my god. Finally I finally asked my mom. I said,
all right, I'm sorry, not my mom. I finally asked
this woman. I said, why don't you want to serve Ted?
When he pulls up in his car, and she says, well,
I can see it in his eyes that he wants

(56:11):
to hurt children, he wants to kill children. And I'm
like what. And I was like, I don't believe you.
I mean, I was just I was shocked. And everybody
in the community, like I said, they love Ted. He
was a part of our community. And so for her
to adamantly say no, I saw it in his eyes
he wants to hurt children, I'm like, wow, man, oh man.

(56:36):
It was just it was a very strange moment. It
stuck out in my head, you know, for her to
be so sure of that, so sure of that, right,
So anyway, this is the expanded version of the story,
by the way, because I've told this before, but there's
more to it. And anyway, so two years go by
and we're sitting and watching the news and suddenly this

(56:59):
report comes on and oh my gosh, there was Ted
and what did they find? They found child pornography on
his computer. But Ted was more than that. He was
writing poetry. He had these fantasies and one of these
and I'm not going to go into too much detail
because I really don't want to make you throw up, Okay,

(57:21):
but I'm going to say there was a poem on
his computer hard drive and the title of that poem
was Little Mophead and it was about a severed head.
It was about a severed head of one of his
students at school, and that student had curly red hair.
And that's as far as I'm going to go. But
it was fantasies with that severed head, and that's all

(57:42):
I'm going to say. So I told that story at
the Strange Storytelling Hour for the North Bend Film Festival,
and there was a visiting comedian named Emmett and he
Emmett Montgomery said his last name Emmett.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I just know.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
His first name is Emmett. He's a visiting comedian, and
he hosted the Strange Storytelling Hour. And I thought, you know,
there's people from Los Angeles here, there's people from New
York City here, there's filmmakers from all over them. They
can handle this. Oh whatever, I can tell this story,
no problem, you know. And I talked about it with
my wife the night before. She said, yeah, I don't know,

(58:17):
I'd be careful, you know. So I was telling the
story on the stage in front of a whole audience, right,
and I got to the punchline about the severed head,
and people started booing, and people started booming, and they
were upset. They were so upset. Right, And so the
thing about it was the comedian he was scheduled to

(58:39):
come and stay the night at our house here, okay,
and so we had an after party where we served spaghetti,
and so Emmett came over. Long story short is in
the living room, I had a carving set up, and
it was a carving of a man's face with a
big beard and bushy hair, wild man kind of right. Well,

(59:02):
it just so happened. It looked exactly like this comedian.
It looked it was like I had done a sculpture
of his head. I looked at it, and this was
just a coincidence because I didn't even know this guy,
but for some reason, the way I sculpted this face
looked exactly like his head. And I go, well, I
guess your big mophead then, huh. And so he was

(59:25):
freaked out. He went in the room here and I said,
you want me to tuck you in? He's like, no, no, no,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
And I said.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
The last thing I said to Emmett was good night,
big mophead, and shut the door. So here this comedian
is shivering in our room, just freaked out. He thinks
that I'm going to probably go in there and like
hold a knife to his throat or do something crazy.
And it didn't help that our son had spray painted
the wall and it looked like a voodoo ritual inside

(59:54):
the bedroom as well. So then four years later I
found out that he had told this story in Seattle
as a stand up routine, and everybody in Seattle had
heard the story of Little Mophead and Big Ma Shit.
And this woman she came up to me and she says,
I can't believe you're real. I've heard this story for
four years now, and I thought he made it all up.

(01:00:14):
You're actually a real person. I didn't know that this
was all true. So my story and my horrible, horrible,
horrific tale about a severed head fantasies about a severed
head became comedic material for this comedian in Seattle. And
that's the end. Thank you, guys. I guess that's all I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Got for you. Again. Great job, Bob, that was fantastic.
I knew that you would bring the scary, the creepy,
the horrifying, and also the entertaining and the universe to

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the table. What are you and Laura doing for Halloween?
Before we let you go?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Oh yeah, for Halloween, I mentioned it a little bit
at the beginning, where we're doing a storytelling performance at
the Encompass, which is a children and Family services agency.
It's also called Children's Services, and it's a fundraiser for
our Snowquam Valley Museum. So it's all going to be
stories like I'm telling right now. The kids program is earlier,

(01:01:27):
and then later is the adult's only program. But it's
a fundraiser for our beloved Snoquami Valley Museum. That's what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
That's fantastic. Do you guys have any personal traditions or
anything you do for the in all those period as well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, for the month of October, we usually watch at
least one or two horror movies every day, so every
day of October, and so I'm pretty well versed, and
we're very well versed in horror. And I love we're
film buffs, I mean obviously, so it'd be fun to
do a trivia night at some point with you about

(01:02:05):
horror films and you know, see see how much knowledge
you and I we could go, you know, compete with
each other. He could, you know, spar with each other
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I don't know. That's that is. And do you have
a do you have a do you have a favorite
or a couple of favorite go tos for like Halloween?
Are there movies that you've got to watch every year?
Or is there a movie you've got to watch every year?
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I like Event Horizon. Event Horizon's very disturbing, very disturbing.
And then the actor that plays in that, he's also
he plays a grown up Damien, you know in that
and it's just man. He plays a creepy guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I like Event Horizon.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
He's also in John copp and His Mouth The Madness.
Sam Neil, he's one of the great and he's of
course he's in He's in Jurassic Park as well. He's
the the What's the Doctor? Allen Grant Neil and New
Zealand actor from my part of the world. Credible, Yeah, incredible,
my original part of the world. They should say, Yeah,

(01:03:08):
he's an incredible actor. Also in a movie, he's What's
that other the Lesson in horror movies and it's the
European one. He's in a film Possession as well, which
is one of my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I've never seen that one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
It's more obscure. It's spectacular, very very experimental horror, but great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I like A twenty four, you know, like I think
they're from Australia. There's a company called A twenty four
and there's there's a Bring Her Back and Talk to Me.
Those are fantastic films as of elite. Do you know
what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, they might they might be a European company, but
I do know who or they might you know what,
I don't even know. I don't think. It doesn't mean
A twenty four doesn't have some Australian funding or Australian attachment.
But I thought they were European. They might even be American.
I shouldn't know. I'm showing my ignorance. They don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
That's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I absolutely know who A twenty five four other? Where
are they based? I'm going to Google as soon as
the show is finished, because I shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I think I think Bring Her Back as an Australian Brothers.
I think they're Australian.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Bring Her Back is an Australian film, But I think
the actual the mini studio, the distribution company, whatever it is,
I think there. I don't think they're Australian base. It
doesn't mean that in Australian cinema. They do a lot
of great stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Cool, yeah, but anything A twenty four I found. If
you're looking for new horror movies, I've pretty much we've
figured out it that has A twenty four. It's good,
it's high quality. Some are better than others. But that's
that's my recommendation for people out there looking for horror films. Yep, Well,
you're on mute you're muted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
It was wonderful chatting to you. Is there is there
any other URLs that you want to throw out? I
have a link to your your latest album on band
camp in the show notes. I also have a link
to where they can where the audience can buy one
of your books. But is there anywhere or is there
any way you want to suggest people look at or
what they should get a hold.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Of, or I guess the only thing that I didn't
mention is that we do have a pig, and we
love our pig. His name is Corny Cob, Cornelius Cob.
And no, I didn't get our pig so I could
dispose of bodies. We just love her pig. We just
love our pig. But our pig, Corny Cob or Cornelius
Cob has a TikTok channel. He has his own channel

(01:05:26):
and he is popular party. Go to TikTok. If you're
on TikTok, go find Cornelius Cob. And yeah, I'm doing
pig videos every day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
All right, Well, man, I hope you and Laura have
a very happy Halloween. And until I get and it
was a great joy having you here, of course, as
always is, and until I get to talk to you again,
which hopefully won't be in the two distant future because
we both get very busy with our lives and we
don't chat enough. And until I get to talk to
everybody else out there, which will be the same weird time,

(01:06:06):
same weird network, the untold Radio Network next week. Please
keep it weird.