The Bigfoot Influencers #46 Bigfoot in the Olympic Peninsula? Shane Corson

Tim & Dana have a fascinating conversation with Scottish born researcher, Shan Corson. Shan leads the Olympic Project Team where they have found compelling evidence including 2 potential nest locations for Bigfoots. They dive into Shane's first encounter and why their research area is so active.

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Episode Transcript

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Spanning the entire globe, involving hundredsof different cultures, explaining the same phenomenon
by different name. The nature ofthe footprints, namely their remarkable consistency,
their biomechanical appropriateness, you know,those aspects that are are extremely compelling.

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He seen. Hey, Tim andDana, thank you so much for the
very kind intro. It's an absolutepleasure to be here. Yay. I've
love your background. That is supercool, super super cool. You got
all the appropriate stuff back there.It's I got many more walls just like
this in this room. That isso awesome, because what is seven it's

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my game room slash Sasquatch room,so a lot of a lot of paraphannellion
here and sasquatch stuff. So it'sit's kind of a focal point in my
house. Very cool. I loveit so so so you know we Tim
had mentioned in the intro, soyou're from Scotland. You obviously don't have

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a Scottish accent, thank god,because we wouldn't be able to understand you.
She's subtitles. I mean, Ican understand it, but now I've
always had I lived in Italy foreight years, years and years ago,
and I have a bunch of friendsin my different countries, but we all
spoke English because we were English teachers. And I was so excited because we

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were going to go to a filmin the original language English, and I
think it was that movie called TrainSpotting and it was a filmed in Scotland,
and I found myself reading the Italiansubtitles because I couldn't understand the English
that was being spoken with a Scottishaccent. So yeah, it was definitely

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interesting. So you were you wereborn there? And then when did you
move up to the States? Soyeah, I was born in Glasgow and
I think a lot of Train Spottingwas filmed in Glasgow and Edinburgh if I'm
not mistaken, And yeah, theaccents are thick. You wouldn't understand my

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dad even until this day. Butlived on a little island off the west
coast of Scotland and the Hebrides calledIsla, just a little tiny island off
the mainland of Scotland. Moved overto the US southern California in ninety three,
and over a couple of years,I sought to lose my accent because

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people couldn't understand me right, right, and so in nineteen ninety three,
you don't mind, how old wereyou? I was thirteen. Okay,
wow, so you had already liveda good part of your life there.
Yes, yeah, that's pretty amazingthat you've like picked up the American accent.

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I'm not even hearing a slight endinggoing on, So that's pretty amazing.
And you didn't get the southern Californiaaccent either, No, no,
I haven't done that, No,I no, but I did learn to
speak, you know, well,lose my dialect, and so that you

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know, it was it was anissue growing up. The girls loved my
accent, the guys not so much. So it was a lot of you
know, a lot of little tipsand I thought, you know, I
need to lose this accent right right. So how often do you go back
to visit? Not very often.No, I have plans I had.

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I do have plans to go backhere shortly. My daughter is eleven and
as yet to to to see whereI grew up. And I have an
absolutely huge amount of family over there, all over Scotland, England and in
a few in Ireland. So Iwant her to experience where I grew up
and see another side to the familythat she's not seen but hopefully get back
soon. Okay, awesome, Yeahwe want to do that. And I've

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got we've got both have some familyheritage from there, and I have family
heritage they got to Yeah, yoursisters. Yeah, you guys have Norwegian.
Okay, she's not Norwegian. We'reon Norwegian. The Vikings kind of
just yeah, they just spread theirseeds everywhere. So so that where you

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got in the pale and tw isthat what kind of inspirred you just growing
up in Scotland. Yeah. Absolutely. I always had a fascination with dinosaurs
and uh, you know, Imy original passion was paleontology. I used
to write right to literally literally aphysical letter to Edinburgh to some prominent paleontologists

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and they would write a letter backto me and it got really sparked my
interest in that, and then eventuallylooking at things like locktness Monster, you
know, NeSSI and other cryptids.My my. I've always had a passion
for dinosaurs, like I said,but it kind of moved into these possible
the existence of other unknowns or thepossible existence of supposedly extinct species. That's

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that's cool. And yeah, welland before you know, we I'm kind
of bouncing around here because you wereyou were in southern California. Now you're
in the Pacific Northwest. You knowthe mountain just go all the way down
there. I mean, we hadEli Watson on here and we were just
sit chatting about the mountain ranges fromsouthern California. I think some people don't

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understand that there's activity down there toowhere you usually right. Yeah, it's
funny you mentioned Eli. He justspent a week up here. We were
doing a filming project which will beout on YouTube sometimes sometime down the road.
So we we discussed that very thing, the least, the past history
on Sasquat's being down there and notthe southern California, but all the way

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up through California, and the possibilitythat there is Sasquats still in some of
those areas, you know, southernCalifornia being you know areas like Idah Wild
and Palmer Mountain and San Borndino Mountainsand Los Angeles you know forests and the
Cleveland Forest down there national forests,and then moving up towards Central and then
northern California. And as you asyou said to him, the Mountain Range,

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travels up and down this side ofthe coast. It's it's pretty amazing.
So so because because so let's goback. So you're a kid in
Scotland, you're thirteen, you movedto the States, you grow up a
bit. What got you interested inthe big Foot phenomenon? Yeah, yeah,

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So my mom actually got me interestedin in cryptids in general. You
know, I was looking into She'dget me books, the few programs that
were available. Wide Watcher was there. Mainly, I was just visiting the
library and getting my hands on everykind of book I could because my mom
kind of sparked my interest in itwhen I started looking into the Lochness Monster,

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the Jetty Map and Gari Mokala Membe, all these different world right worldwide
cryptids and so, you know,Sasquatch was always a high interest to me,
having seen the Patterson Gimblin film NeverBeen, you know, being to
the States, I was very interestedin the Sasquatch phenomena, not knowing that

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one day I would end up inthe States and you know, in one
of the Mecca states in the USfor Sasquatch reports activity in history, and
so you know it wasn't until Igot to California that I really started kind
of delving a little bit deeper intothe big Foot thing and learning more,

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more and more of the phenomena.So I'm sorry, So when did you
move? So, so when didyou move to the area that you're in
now, which is in Washington State. Yeah, so actually I moved to
Oregon first. I lived in atown called Beaverton, Oregon for a number
of years, which I moved fromCalifornia to Oregon in two thousand and eight,

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and I did a lot of researchup in the Mounthood area of Oregon
and then the Kilimot Forest in Oregon. Eventually, uh, you know,
and I moved up here. Ihad met my wife down in San Diego
and she's from Oregon. That's whatbrought me up to Oregon, and I
was very excited to move here,having visited once or twice before. I

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loved the area. I loved thehistory and just the chance to get out
and conduct research in areas that Iwasn't familiar with. And twenty seventeen is
actually when I moved up to westernWashington. So it's just so cool that
you moved into like squatch your areasobviously than San Diego, which you know

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just makes your research possibility so muchbroader. So what an awesome thing to
do. And well, first tellyour wife, I'm sorry I didn't wear
my University and the AGA shirt.I should have done that this episode.
Yeah, because we were talking toShane before our actually went to University of
San Diego, and so did hiswife. So not my wife, Shane.

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I know, so, Shane,but you were you were talking to
witnesses in southern California before you weretalking to them up north, right,
Yeah, not so much southern California. I did reach up to a few.
A lot of the reports down therewere older, you know, like
the Zoogies, uh, you knowthat is fairly well known out of Alpine.

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There was the individual I talked toyou up in Quiamaca, which is
eastern San Diego, that had apossible sighting, though at the time I
couldn't rule out bar there was.It was hard to track down individuals,
and we're talking you know, nineties, late nineties, early two thousands.
It was hard to find a lotof recent stuff. You know, I

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didn't really have you know, Iknew of the bof Row and whatnot.
But I didn't have a whole lotof access to a lot of that stuff
at that time to contact witnesses butmost machine, so your reasoning for contacting
witnesses was you were just trying to, like for our viewers, just so
they get an idea of how youwent from being interested into being a researcher.

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Yeah, no, great question.I was just trying to document reports
so I could put a back downon your cool. Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't know anybody at that time. You know, I didn't know one
soul that was into research at thattime. You know, I knew of
people, especially in Washington and innorthern California and Oregon in places like that,

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but I was just, you know, a one man band at that
time, just trying to collect information, trying to see if there was validity
to any of these reports in thoseareas, if they were just historical,
or if there were still present,if Sasquatch was still present in some of
these areas. And so it reallywasn't until I started traveling north towards like
Yosemite, Bishop Big Bear that Istarted getting in a little bit more i

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say, fresher reports, more currentreports, and that in areas also that
I thought this is a more viablelocation for sasquatch to iden. How many
witnesses do you think you've talked toover the years, Oh, shoot,
over the years. I don't knowif I could put a number, I

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don't know. A couple hundred,Okay, that's a lot. There's a
lot, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are there any of those or I'm
sure some of them have. Canyou Can you mention one or two that
like really stood out to you,that really kind of got you thinking or
blew you away. The one thatcomes to mind was one of the first
reports that I took in that wasfairly fresh and kind of came from a

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very reliable source that wanted even atthat time to not go on the record
with their name. But while Iwas I used to a lot of camping
in Yosemite, backpacking around, andI got talking with a female park ranger
that happened to be up around elkCapacan, which is a large rock face
up there. It's really popular forrock climbers to come around the world,

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and the earth stood below out Capitan. It's absolutely massive. You see these
people up on you climbing it,and it takes them you know, days
to get up to the top.They'll even sleep on rock faces, you
know, tying themselves in. Theylook like ants from the ground. Wow,
there was a park ranger there.I was unabashed that even at that

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time. You know, hey,do you guys ever hear any big put
or sasquatch reports in this area?And she said, well, a matter
of fact, about two years ago. I mean, this was a long
It wasn't right away. I hadto kind of drag it out of her
a little bit. But she hadreported that she was down below I think
it was the Alwani Hotel at thetime, somewhere near there in had something
throwing rocks at her and thought itwas a somebody pulling a prank on her

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or trying you know, she didn'tknow what was going on, but these
rocks were coming at her, smallerthan a baseball, and when she looked
up on this rock facing, shesaw something reddish in color fleeting away on
two legs. And that was twoyears prior to me talking with her and
that report. I mean, itshook her at the time. She didn't
know what was going on. Shedidn't tell a whole lot of people.

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She talked to another park ranger andhe said, well, you know,
it's probably a bear, and she'sthinking herselves, well, bears don't throw
rocks. You know, it wasn'tit was an arcing throw. It wasn't
rocks falling straight down from this ledge. It was arcd at her. And
so that really that really stuck outwith me. Here. I had a
park ranger that she'd been working therefor her I think twelve or thirteen years,
never had anything happened like that,and then one day, boom,

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she has an unexplained experience, sawsomething that was, you know, reddish
in color, which didn't match reallythe bear in that area. And there's
a lot of black bear up inthat area, and predominantly they're black.
I think there's a couple of blondishones been seen up in there. But
she described this thing as walking ontwo legs and reddish in color. And
so I started keying in on goingup to Yosemite as much as I could,

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which is a good twelve the thirteenhour drive from where I lived,
and I never really found anything ofinterest while searching those areas up there.
I never found any really good tracks. Said a lot of black bear up
there, a lot of bear tracksand other species. But I was I
still thought I was in the rightarea. But I wanted that I wanted

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to experience, but I also wantedto find something of substance and not just
have come away with another possible encounterfrom someone else. And did she mentioned
the size? I mean, obviouslyshe's probably used to seeing climbers go up
and down. Did she say anythingabout size, Uh, just that it
was it was larger than a human. She thought it was larger than a

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human bipedal. She didn't really giveme in an at six feet Yeah,
twelve to thirteen years working in thepark. Yeah, so yeah, I
would assume she wouldn't she could differentiatein size. And if it was a
person, it made no sense toher at the time where the rocks were

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coming from, why a person wouldbe in this particular spot. And it's
that same old rock throwing characteristic thatwe hear a lot of stories about,
right, because there's Shane. Isthere anything else that can do that besides
a human with you know throw thatyou know, not not that I'm aware

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of, you know. You know, you get animals like squirrels and raccoons
that can can drop stuff I don'tthink squirrels can toss up. And and
we're talking about the size of theserocks thrown, you know, I mean
they're not always large. Sometimes they'repebbles, sometimes they're pine cone thrown.
But you know, I've heard reportseven in the area that I had interest

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around Mount Hood where you know,there was supposedly a crazy black bear throwing
rocks, as these people stated,but they had no idea what to call
it. It is. They say, a large stark figure and that was
the only thing they could come upwith was it was a large bear.
But no, rock throwing is verycommon. I had a lot of reports
like that. I've experienced rock throwingnot too long ago. And we could

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talk about this later, but weChris Spencer and I were out camping and
on one of our thermal terms wehad placed out around our camp. We
had a rock come into our campin between our tents and it had an
arc. You know, we're quiteaway from the tree line and you can
see this thing arc in on thethermal camera. So yeah, it's a
very common report, you know,from researchers to layman, to hikers,

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fishermen, explorers that they have rocksthrown at them, you know, obviously,
just no other primates. You know, supposedly there's no other primates in
North America except humans, so rightapparently, yeah right, so so so
I'll actually say you mentioned Chris Spenceractually before we get into that. How
how how much time are you inthe woods? I mean, how much

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time do you you know, foryour personal time? Yeah, a lot.
I'm in the woods every couple ofdays, if not longer. So
you know, there's not a weekgoes by that I'm not in the woods
spinning, either a couple of daysor even just a couple of hours.
I try to spend as much timein the woods as I can. Obviously,
I'm into the sasquatch phenomenon, sothat's a huge portion of what I

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do in the woods. But alsoi love being out in the woods hiking,
exploring, and I'm also an avidhunter, so I'm always looking for
a sign of my corry. SoI'm and that's why I moved to Western
Washington. I feel in love withthis area and I have access right out
literally literally my backdoor, to trailsin remote areas. That's so cool.

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Jealous, I'm so jealous. Peopleare so jealous because we live near the
beach. But yeah, we havewe have woods behind this, but it's
like a quarter of an acre,a quarter an acre, a quarter mile
thick, not a quarter acre.I know, we're so excited to have
that, but we do at leasthave something. I'm very I'm very fortunate
because I'm very close to the PugetSounds, so I have beach access and

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saltwater access. But then I haveall these rivers that can to the Serias
side of freshwater access and then astone stowaway. I have, you know,
the Olympic mountains and stuff. SoI got a little bit of everything
up here. Let's move. Okay, okay, come on up, Come
on up. So tell us,Shane, tell us what you know the

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group you're involved in. You knowit's called the the Olympic So tell us
tell the audience. Yeah, andhow you got got there, how you
got there and why you joined?And I meant that, who are you?
Yeah? So the Limit Project isjust a group of like minded individuals
from all walks of life. Wehave a lot of girls and a lot
of guys involved in this. Wehave we have academics that are a part

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of the Limit Project. And thenwe have just avid researchers, investigators and
enthusiasts involved with the E Limit project. But we are all of like mind.
We all have the same sort ofgoals, the same agendas. We're
all data dribven. We know that'skind of our goals to collect as much
data as we possibly can on thesubject. That for I can speak for

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most of the Olympic project that knowsto exist. We do have a few
open minded skeptics, which is great, but they're very open to looking into
this phenomena. They're excited about itand they want to delve into it.
So we have a great group ofindividuals that get out and document and experiments

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in the woods looking into into sasquatch. I joined the Element Project in twenty
twelve. Derek Randalls invited me andI had been corresponding with him, and
I had correspond with Cliff Barrickman alittle bit before I met Derek on some
stuff I had happened. But itwas when I met Derek Randalls down at

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an event called Hop Squatch that GuyEdwards used to put on down there in
Portland, Oregon, that I metDerek for the first time and went out
on one of his public expeditions andit was was amazing. It was a
great trip. I learned a lot. Derek and I really bonded, knowing
that we had the same goals,same agendas, the same humor, the

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fact that we loved the outdoors,and so we connected. And it wasn't
too long after that that he invitedme in. And I'll tell you that
the thing that blew my mind withthe Olympic Project at that time was just
the I used to think that Iwas conducting proper research, whether it was
California or Oregon. I'm like,well, I'm I'm a researcher, you

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know, I'm a researcher investigator.When I joined the Olympic Project and realized
the amount of work they were puttinginto it, and you know, both
in the field and out of thefield, I realized that documentation, data
collection, looking for patterns was ahuge part of that, and I immediately
fell in love with that. Ithought, Wow, this is this is
substance. This is something not notjust I can look at, but others

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can look at that we can share. And so I started really hit you
know, really hitting the ground,going Okay, this is uh, this
is this is conducting proper scientific researches, you know, you utilizing the scientific
method and not just you know,oh, looking for tracks all the time
or looking for this It's about properdocumentation, observing everything around you and documenting

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it, whether it's the weather,the moonface, the terrain, the animals
in the area, the food sources, the elevation. That really, uh,
you know, that really brought meto the realization that there's more to
research than just looking for tracks andtalking to witnesses. That's amazing. Yeah,

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so would you say that. Imean, obviously you've had some experiences.
Can you describe some of the experiencethat you witnessed yourself? Well,
prior to meeting Derek and and talkingto Cliff, I had had a two
nine experience up in the Mounthood NationalForest with two buddies while we were out

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hiking remote backpacking lakes. Not anot a big foot trip, just a
couple of guys, a couple ofco workers and I going out and going
to an area we had never been. And one of my passions is fishing.
I love fishing. I love fishingrivers and lakes and the harder to
get you the better. And soyou know, I had this basically a

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two night experience with these two gentlemenfriends of mine, and it caught it.
Basically the second night is when Isaw one of these things and it
solidified the existence of sasquats for meand scared the b gbs out of the
other two guys. Great, couldyou go into detail about this encounter?
Yeah? Sure, Okay, Yeah, this was, like I said,

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Mount Hood National Forest. We weregoing to go on a two to three
day backpacking trip, remote backpacking trip, fishing trip, and we you know,
pa should This area's about a fivemile drive into a on a really
rustic and horrible logging road to atrailhead and down this trailhead there's a lake

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and that's where we made our basecamp kind of early on a early on
a Friday morning, and we eventually, after we set up camp, we
decided to go try and find oneof these other lakes in this area.
There's about eight lakes in this area, and got you know, up above
the lake we were camping at,we got up on this ridgeline, got

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completely lost. We were seeing bearsign. One of my buddies was quite
afraid of bears. He's not fromOregon or Washing He's from Boston, and
he didn't like the bear thing atall. And so we we're up there.
We're lost. My buddies from Boston. He actually had a punt pan
was banging him around and I toldhim, you know, knocked that off.
It's annoying. We were all,we were all. I always go

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to the woods armed, you know, I do carry a weapon with at
all times. And so we're lost. We start making our way finally,
you know, and we hiked aboutsixteen to seventeen miles a day, off
trail, on trail, off trail, so we eventually at the end of
the day, you know, wewe find the lake we're supposed to be

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fishing, and by the time it'sgetting dark, so we come down off
the mountain, make our way,find the right trail back to our camp,
which is a couple of miles away, set up, you know,
finish, set up camp again,make some dinner, go to bed around
eleven m thirty after talking about ourplans for the following day, and around
one thirty or two o'clock in themorning, we hear a clanking sound and

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now we're right next to this lake. We're kind of we all have our
separate tents. We're kind of ina triangle formation with you know, spread
out by a couple of feet.My buddy Mitch was closest to the lake.
I'm kind of in the middle atthe point, and that the other
area just blow like a little hillis My buddy Ian, Ian was passed
out. He didn't hear this sound, you know, this clanking sound.
But Mitch and I he started whisperingto me, Hey, what is that?

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And I said, I don't Idon't know what that is. But
it sounds like two rocks, youknow about that pace being clanked together.
And it's coming from a distance,but it's getting closer and closer and closer,
and I don't know the distance.But when it got relatively close to
our camp, it stopped. AndI'm listening, and that's when I started

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hearing movements kind of encircling our campfrom this little from down low up until
this hill and back and forth,and Mitch and I are quiet, awake,
but quiet, and then my buddyIan he's snoring away. He didn't
hear any of this. Well,after a couple of minutes of this walking
around, you hear it. It'skind of moving away, and then you
hear that sound again, and itjust sounds like two rocks, like two

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round rocks being smacked together. Notsuper loud, but loud enough you could
hear it. And it gets furtherand further and fur their away. And
that was it. The first nightwe had bench, she fell asleep and
woke up next morning. We kindof discussed it, you know, and
I'm trying to come up with everyanswer in my head. Could this have
been elk or deer antlers, couldhave been a raccoon, but none that

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made sense. The movement I washearing sounded a large, but we're on
a and of course my buddy Ianthought we were messing with him, which
we were not, because he didn'thear a thing. But so we got
out. The next day we hitthe trail, We find the two licks.
We were going to fish, noproblem. We had our you know,
our area kind of down in ourminds, so we kind of knew
their general area. We knewhere thetrails were at now, and we go

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out fish fish all day. Wecome back to our camp in the evening,
we're cooking up fish that we'd caughtand once again talk about our plans
for the following day. We chatfor a while, then go to bed
about eleven eleven thirty again and we'reall, you know, fast asleep,
and I wake up to that soundagain at about them right about that time,
about two o'clock in the morning,I hear that you know sound,

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and it's getting closer and closer andcloser again, and it's just repetitive.
My buddy Mitch again is awake andhe goes changing, you awake. He's
whispering. I said, yeah,and he goes, it's back. I
said, I know. So aswe're listening, it's getting closer and closer
and it stops again. This timethe movements we were hearing was much louder.

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Whatever this thing was, at thetime, I knew it was big.
We could hear it crunching. Andat one point my buddy Mitch is
hearing something to his left. I'mhearing something to my right coming from the
hill. So I'm in my mindthinking there could be two of whatever the
heck this is, and it's justI'm sorry, I have to inter please.
I mean, being like a guyinto cryptids and bigfoot are you not

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at this point thinking this could bea sad squatch. You know, at
the time, I didn't know.I honestly didn't know what it was.
I don't remember it crossed my mindat that time or not. I was
kind of honestly, I was scared. I didn't what we were dealing with.
And when I described the movement inthe woods, it was just large
and it just sounded big. Youknow, I've been around a lot of

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black Beard in my life. Yep, even up until that point, I've
been around elk and deer. Thisstood out that the clanking sound, I
couldn't put a finger on it.And then this movement, whatever it was,
came back a second nine row,So I'm sure it probably crossed my
line. But you know, inmy mind, I was thinking I never
had an experience up until then orencounter right, never in all my years,

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and so it's hard to rationalize mybrain, what could this be.
Well, as this thing stomping around, and there may be something to my
right and something to my buddy's left, the stomping around went went quiet,
and that's when five of the mostpowerful knocks and power knocks whatever we want

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to call him on a tree startedcoming through this bam, and they were
in a row, five in arow. Bam bam, bam bam,
and it echoed through this little valiorein we had a rock crack across the
lake and you could just hear itecho off that and come right back at
us. The undergrowth. The groundin that area is pretty hollow because of

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the root systems, and you couldfeel these knots reverberate underneath your tents.
Well, this is what my buddyeating up by this time, so all
three of us are awake. He'skind of freaking out. He doesn't know
what this is, and I'm tellinghim be quiet, be quiet, just
shut up, you know. Andhe was the one from Boston, right

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afraid of bears. Yeah, correct, He's pretty much freaking out. He's
not an outdoorsman or a camper.And I had given him, in hindsight,
very poor hindsight, you know,I had given him a pistol the
commons bears. Yeah, bad idea, bad idea, but you know,
yeah, bad idea. Would neverdo that again. But I realized that

(30:57):
he had a pistol in there,but before that happened, so I'm trying
to calm him down, and upthrough the tree line up above us,
I hear something coming through the treesfrom the hill and it's hitting branches and
it's come down from a distance andthen it thuds right next to my buddy
Mitch's tants, and he's right nextto the lake. In front of him
is a big muddy spot with abunch of skunk cabbage. And you could

(31:19):
hear it hit that ground and studlike it and it was something solid,
and I knew at that time exactlywhat it was. And emon buddy Mitch
goes, hey, something, youknow what that was? Right? And
I said, that was a rockand it hit the mud right next to
his tents. And now where theKnox. I want to go back to
the Knox. Were they all comingfrom the same spot or did? Were

(31:41):
they? I know because you saidyou heard knocks from two different areas the
night before or clacking rather well,the night before, we may have heard
a percuss of a knock, butI don't want to It's one of those
things I don't remember for a factthat happening. It may we may have
heard a knock the night prior,but it was definitely rock clanking going on
both nights, those knocks will comefrom the same spot there was. There

(32:04):
wasn't like a response. It wasjust I mean, I've never heard anything
like it since because it was soclose and so powerful. But yeah,
they were just from one location forsure. Thanks, Sorry I cut you
off there. So then then sothen the rocket you know, rocklated,
you know, pretty close to youguys. Yes, yes, and so
it landed real close to my buddy'stants. I'm getting uh, you know,

(32:30):
I'm now now the wheels are spinningin my head because I there's only
so many things up throw the rocks. I can only think of one,
you know, out here in NorthAmerica as a person. But we're way
out in the middle of the woods. It's nighttime. We did every night.
Ian would build a huge fire upto board off the bears. I
mean, he was quite an obnoxiousfire. But other than that, bears

(32:53):
coming here. Yeah, yeah,you know, you know it's former friend.
Well, he won't go back tothe woods now. I amn't talking
to me in years. But Idon't think he's an outdoors guy at all
now. But you know, afterthat all transpired, I'm sitting there and

(33:13):
beans still freaking out. So Idecide to first of all go calming down,
and then to make sure he's notgoing to shoot anybody. So I
unzip my tent and as I'm lookingaround out in the front of my tent,
you know, I'm hoping and prayingI don't see anything, and for
a few seconds I didn't, Butthen almost directly while to my one o'clock

(33:34):
roughly, I see some movement andas I lock eyes on it, I
see a large hand, a arm, a shoulder, and every couple of
seconds or less than that, ahead pop out. This arm was around
a big doug fir tree, andI could see the shoulder, and every
once a while I see happy popout, swaying back and forth. And

(33:57):
as I'm watching it pop out,I'm realizing this thing is mad. I
could see hair, I couldn't makeout color. I could just make out
the hand and the arm and theshoulder, and then this gigantic head in
half the body I had never atthat time. I didn't see the whole
whole body pop out, but itwas swaying back and forth. The arm
in hand would stay on the tree, and I'm looking right at this thing,

(34:19):
and I'm in my head, youknow. I remember, I felt
paralyzed from fear. I couldn't move, But I'm just looking at this thing,
and it eventually, I don't knowif it heard the zipper or if
it locked eyes on me, Idon't know, but it eventually dropped its
arm to its side, came outfrom behind the tree, and went up
the trail, just slowly walked awayfrom the trail, and that was it.

(34:43):
I at that point, Ian iskind of quiet. I didn't say
to anything. I didn't scream.My heart's pounding in my head, and
my tent up, and I'm justlaying there, wondering if this thing's gonna
come back, what it's going todo next. Nothing happened. I could
hear once, I could start finallyhearing again. I can hear my buddy,
Mitch breathing kind of heavy. Ian'sbreathing heavy, heavy, and we

(35:07):
just we just literally sat in ourtents. Nobody moved, I think,
you know, A couple hours later, I don't think anybody went back to
sleep. A couple of hours later, you know, when daylight hit,
we just collectively we got out ofour tents, packed up camp and got
out of there. There was noother stuff that happened at night at least
nothing I heard, definitely didn't seeanything, and quite honestly, I was

(35:28):
I was freaked out. I didn'twant to have a third night of this.
At that time, I thought,if this thing came back and it's
definitely a sasquatch, it came backfor two nights in a row for a
purpose, we shouldn't be here.And so we just weren't even talking.
We collectly grabbed their stuff and gotthe heck out of there. And that
that's story. Because we were justtalking about this today. You were talking

(35:52):
about, you know, questions thatwe might want to ask me searchers in
the future, and it, youknow, the whole thing of the whole
fear factor of actually having a sasquatchexperience, like every researcher wants to have.
But then when you finally have it, you know, it's not some
like little cutesy U sasquatch you knowcartoon or Yeah, it's a real live

(36:20):
animal that's ginormous and powerful and youknow, just has all of these amazing
capabilities, you know, and soyeah, you're kind of like the describing
what we were talking about today.Yeah, yeah, I mean it.
It was everything I wanted, butnothing I wanted at that time. You

(36:43):
know, it's you know, it'severybody's dream. But at that time I
had never had anything. I've hadbare encounters. I've had odd people encounters,
you know, stuff like that.Stuff that built me up, gave
me a little more backbone to beout in the woods and not afraid.
Respect everything, but not afraid ofthat. I'm preparing yourself. I could.
I could not prepare myself for thatas much as I thought I could.

(37:06):
You know, nowadays, I don'tget me wrong. Nowadays, I
want that to happen again, andI'll be prepared. I didn't have any
audio with me, and I didn'thave anything fishing poles and food in tents
that are happened again. I dowant that to happen again, and I
think I've come close. But atthat time, no, no, I
was still maybe they exist, maybethey don't. I don't know. You
know, I've talked to people Ireally haven't seen much. Maybe they exist.

(37:30):
But after that happened, there wasno doubting it. There's nothing I
could do to say, oh,they don't exist. It was right there
in my face, and how manytimes. Have you heard of a two
nights encounter? Not many? Andyou know, I thought to myself,
well, you know, after monthsand months of thinking about this, why
did that happen? Why two nightsin a row. The only thing I
can come up with is that wegot up on this ridge line above the

(37:51):
lake. We're off trail most ofthe time, hacking through the woods.
We disturbed something up on that ridgeline. With the noise with us,
you know, making noise, arguing, urinating, we left their scent everywhere,
banging pots, all that junk.That this thing wanted us out of
there. It didn't. We didn'tget the picture of the first night.
The second night, it hung arounda lot longer and got more. I

(38:13):
don't use the word aggression, butit it gave itself, you know,
let us know that. Hey,you know, it's you've overstayed your welcome,
get out of here. And itworked. So your two friends that
came with you, like, Imean, I'm not sure if you're still
in touch with them or how longyou were in touch with them after the
experience, but I mean, didyou guys talk about uh and did you
tell them what you saw? Andyou know, I eventually told them.

(38:38):
Ian didn't really want to hear aboutit. He was done. Mitch and
I, Yeah, my buddy Mitchand I we I don't really talk with
any of those guys anymore. Butmy buddy Mitch and I went out there
a few more times, and youknow, we went out there. I
wanted to see how tall this thingwas up against the tree, because there
was a limb above its head.It was about seven and seven a half
feet tall. Big guy or girland I found some smashed down marks.

(39:01):
I looked for the tree where thething was smacking and I may have found
it, but I wasn't hard sentsure, and we didn't really have anything
to happen in that area. There'san adjacent lake though that you know.
Once we got the courage to getyou know, stay out there overnight,
and we did. We went outto another lake which was about a mile

(39:22):
our excuse me, about two milesaway from there, same trail we took
to get there, and we werefishing at this lake with the plan of
I was gonna place the game cameraup at this place and fish and camp
a couple of nights. Well,where it's not very big lake. He's
on one side of the lake.I'm on the other side of the lake.
I got direct view of him.We had walkies, and at one

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point he starts hearing something kind oflike growling over by him, and I
said, well, you know,be careful. I know there's a large
black bear in this area. I'veseen him, you know, it could
be that black bear. Well,he's getting kind of antsy, and we
hear a knock, like a bigpercussive come from somewhere up behind him,
and then I'm like, okay,okay, you know I heard that.

(40:07):
And he's like, I'm getting nervous. I'm gonna come back around and hang
up by you. It's probably isI'm a ten minute walk. Well,
I hear we well, we bothheard a clear whistle. And this is
three o'clock in the afternoon, nicesunny day, no breeze, and I'm
like, oh man, wow.And as he makes his way back around,

(40:29):
I hear another knock from another area, another percussive and another whistle.
Well, as he gets up tome, he's a little shaken up.
I'm looking back across the way wherefrom where he came from, and there's
another kind of rock slide area andthere's a bunch of these big bushes up
there, and this bush is justshaken violently, and I'm like, oh
my gosh, I know I'm stillyou know, I'm like, oh,

(40:52):
is this are we dealing with?Sasbars? This is a bear? What
just? Bears don't knock like that, and they don't whistle, and they
didn't sound like a bird whistle.It sounds like a core human whistle,
both of them. Well, aswe're similar washing this, it stops.
I'm waiting for something to pop outwell up bring behind us near our camp.
I hear crack crack, crack,boom, and a large tree comes
down from the direction of our camp. We're like, oh, we have

(41:15):
to go back that way. Soyeah, we were both pretty breaked out.
So it's you know, it's startingto get a little darker as the
sun's cresting this we're in another bowl, the suns starting to go down.
We know we have to get backto our camp, so we start making
our way down this little game trailto our camp and sure enough, here's

(41:36):
this and it's a dead tree mindyou know, wind or anything. It's
a large dugford had fallen over andI'm looking at the base of it,
and something looks like I had stoodbehind this thing. It was flat,
all the shavings from the tree.It was really flat looking. Well,
my buddy Mitch is like, I'mdone. I'm not standing the night here.
And I said, well, ifwe're not spending night here, we
have to get going now because wehave a long hike out. It's getting

(41:59):
dark. We had to pack upour stuff. I really don't want to
be hiking out here in the dark. And so we grabbed our stuff and
got the heck out of there.And I don't think Mitch has ever been
back out there. I've been backthere. I've had some other things happen
very rarely, you know, I'vebeen out there a lot of times.
I try to make a yearly pilgrimageat least twice. Once the twice year
out there got some interesting audio butand had a few other interestings happened over

(42:25):
the years, but never another sidingI can't say hurt in person, more
percussives. Never had another rock knownEmmy, but had some other things happen.
So periodically I get reports from thatgeneral vicinity and so, yeah,
so here's something interesting. Shame doyou think that they know when you're looking

(42:51):
for them, because it seems likemost people who have eyewitness encounters are doing
exactly what you were doing the firsttime, fishing, hunting, hiking,
picking mushrooms, you know, whateveryou're doing out in the woods, and
it seems like that's the time whenyou have, as opposed to all of

(43:12):
the thousands and thousands of researchers outthere with their cameras and audio and you
know, whooping and tree knocking,and what do you think about that?
Oh, I'm so glad. That'ssuch a good observation. And point.
I love it because when I had, you know, when I had my
experience, eventually I reflected upon thewhole scenario and I thought, well,
what was I doing while we wereacting like campus and the fisherman? We

(43:37):
were we human Most humans are verypredictable. You know, anything in the
woods, you know, you know, It's like when you're out hunting,
you know, I hunt blacktailed deerand bear and everything else. They know
you, they know you're out there, and they avoid you. You know,
when I'm out off season from hunting, I see deer and stuff all

(43:57):
the time, and a lot oftimes they don't run away from me first,
they'll just kind of hang around theother things. So, and as
you notably stated, you know,almost all the real good reports are honest
reports, or any reports come incidingscome from people doing average things. Your
hunters, your hikers. You're nota lot of hunters too, but your
hikers, your campers, people drivingon the road doing their average thing.

(44:20):
They're not actively stumping through the woodsand and putting up cameras, and you
know they they're not. You're not. When they're doing that, you're acting
abnormal to what people usually do.So as an animal, whether an apex,
predator, an ungulate or whatever,you're gonna take notice of that stuff
because your mannerism has changed, youryour you know, your vibe, everything
changes about you doing that because you'refocused on something and animals pick up on

(44:45):
that. You know, humans pickup on that stuff. You know,
you see someone acting weird a normal, you're gonna be like, oh,
I need to watch out for thisperson. But if you're just gonna buy
your business, you're you're predictable,you're average. So yeah, So when
it had my experience and reflect themupon that, I started realized that,
you know, there's something to that, you know, to just being normal,

(45:06):
you know, and that's where mostof your reports come from average people
doing average things. And so thatthat really changed my direction when it came
to research. You know. Imean I do go out there and look
for stuff, but I tried asnormal as I can. When I'm camping,
you know, I go about mybusiness, but I don't and neither
do a lot of the other oneslimit product. Members I go out with,
we kind of do the same thing. Occasionally we'll do something out of

(45:30):
the norm. You know. Oneof the things I like to do now
is leave the camp, you know, like literally leave the camp, leave
whoever's there, whether they're around afire or they have a group, or
they're talking, and just peel away, Go down a trail, go sit
up on the tree stand and watchthem on far because of amount of reports
I've seen over the ears where itseems that sasquats cannot pay attention to multiple

(45:51):
groups, They get flustered or theythey're more focused on the group rather than
the individual. And I can reflect, you know, Barcatino, that's happened
to him twice now, you know, with his research and his first time
he saw one, he peeled awayfrom the camp just to go take a
leak, and then happened to sehe went to his term and then up

(46:12):
in the Sierras, he saw agroup of three of them while they were
pretty much watching everybody at camp.And I've heard this over and over again,
and so that's the only time Iwill do something I guess abnormal.
But the focus is still the maincamp. When we're in the woods,
you know, black like average youknow, hikers or explorers. But a
lot of places we go it's kindof hard because it's way off trail and

(46:35):
we're gonna through nasty stuff. Soat that point in time, the gigs
up. I mean, they're gonnathey're in the area. Whether it's a
sasquatch or another animal, they're gonnaknow we're there. So, Shane,
can you tell the audience who isyou know, who are the team members
of the Olympic Project. Well,there's a there's there's about thirty thirty plus

(46:55):
of us. Yeah, yeah,I'll tell you some of the core members,
some of the key members that Iget out with frequently. That's Chris
Spencer. He's one of our audioguys. He does a lot more than
just audio, but he's he's reallyas much as an expert on audio recording
and usually looking at the audio asone can get, so that's kind of

(47:20):
his stick. We have Rebecca andSlick who's a fantastic field investigator and documentary
and explore. And Todd Hale who'sbeen around the block a long time.
He's worked with Barcatino and a bunchof people and another great outdoorsmen and explore
and investigator. That's kind of thesmall group that I run with because these

(47:45):
are individuals that that worked with usin a couple of specific areas, and
you know, that's kind of thecore grate. We have Derek Randalls that
gets out with us a lot.He's been so busy doing other things work
in life that he's not one outas much as he wants, but he's
still active. Man. There's alot. You know. We got even

(48:06):
people like Mark Marcel involved, youknow, who's a kind of the big
historian, extraordinary guy, absolute extraordinaryguy. Yeah. We love ye Marks,
all right, We tolerate such agood friend. And Chris too,
Yeah yeah, yeah. So weallowed member Cindy Dowson. I'm hum Nima.
Nima can pronounce it hm Ni Ingma. She is a hair analysis individual

(48:31):
who looks at supposed sasquatch hair andother animal hair. Probably has the biggest
collection of unknown hair that in theUS that I know of, that hair
that we possibly associate with sasquatch anduh oh Man, Isaac ten Man.
There's just a rolling shot. There'sso many. We have such a good

(48:52):
group and they all have their kindof key role. Some of them are
more administrative. You know. Wegot David Ellis of the Olympic Project,
who's another audio grew fantastic, oneof my one of the guys I look
up to. And so everybody hidstheir niche, whether it's out in the
field or studying stuff at home,looking up stuff administrative stuff from Metric West,

(49:15):
from squatsro Metic. He's a greataffiliates, another person that I can't
speak enough about. His brain isfantastic. He's a data analysis guy by
trade and just a phenomenal guy towork with. I wish he lives state
side, of course he lives abroad, but just an amazing individual. Yeah

(49:36):
cool, So what what what doyou guys do? So can you just
share a few things your approach tocollecting data out in the woods. I
mean, what do you guys dowhen you're out there? Yeah, so
you know, whether it's just aday trip or a lot of the most
of the time it's not. Youknow, when it's a group we're you
know, collectively out there camping,exploring, we usually come up with an

(49:58):
area we're going to explore, andso we kind of a spread out in
searching area, you know, fortracks, sign you know, all the
while. One of the things wedo, notably do every single time is
as soon as we get out ofthe vehicle, we're recording I don't know
how many times over the years,and I'm guilty as anybody getting out of
the vehicle about the setup stuff andthere's a knock or there's a stream or

(50:21):
a howl or a whoop, andall of god is a kind of a
story. So we're always recording.We're recording twenty four seven no matter what
we're doing. I want to stopyou there, because I've heard that more
than once that people get they're gettingout of their vehicle and they hear a
knock. So maybe that's so that'sa perfect reason to have your recorder going,

(50:44):
because do you think that's because you'rejust getting to an area and they're
maybe communicating to others. They're saying, oh my god, they stopped and
they're getting out of the car.Yeah yeah, I mean if if that
is, if that is a Sasquatchbehavior and there it's a Sasquatch doing that.
Yeah, we we a lot ofideas out there. You know,
we talk within the Elmit Project,and we talked with outside the Elimit Project,

(51:06):
talking to other individuals. But it'salmost like, you know, oh,
there there's a there's somebody here,there's a car, there's an individual
like, yeah, there's maybe warningthe group or other Sasquatch possibly. You
know. I obviously don't have theabsolute answering on that, but there's something
to it because it happens enough.It's happening enough to us, it's happening

(51:27):
enough to other investigators and just averagepeople. You know, they get out
of the car and they're like bamn, what was that. So it's just
kind of like they're here or someone'shere, sort of the percussive, and
I think there's something to that.M So, I know, as we're
winding down, I wanted to wecan't let you off the hook. With

(51:47):
house talking a little bit about thenest sites and and for those I was
going to share some some some ofthe images here for the audience, but
I apologize we're having a little bitof technical difficulties because Shane was enough too
for the book. He did twothings. He shared images of the nest
site and he also shared a Iguess that some of the data that they

(52:09):
collected that was put together in apresentation. So you guys can well,
we'll have links to all that andhow you can find the Olympic project,
but can you share a little bitabout the nest sites. There's two of
them, so but you know whereveryou want to start with that, Yeah,
there's two nest locations. I meana lot of this informations out there
for public consumption, but I meanbasically it's a necessary that was brought The

(52:32):
original site was brought to our attentionby a timber surveyor and having worked in
all in this area, we've discoveredtwo date in well both areas twenty four
nests. There are a lot oftimes on these finger ridges where they're found
off of a ridgeline, they're inthey're in groups or clusters anywhere from like

(52:54):
four to seven and they're large.They're made out nothing but huckleberry. Their
oval in shape with a deep impressionwhere something's been laying down in them.
They range in size from about fourfeet across to almost nine eight and a
half nine feet across. They're likeI said all about huckleberry, over a
foot in depth on the outside onthe rim, and constructed by something with

(53:17):
an opposable thumb. We have foundmultiple impressions in this area, anywhere from
about fourteen inches to sixteen inches,and even a couple of twelve inch tracks.
We have hand impressions from these areas. They were discovered in twenty fifteen,
brought to our tension May of twentyfifteen. We believe they're made in

(53:37):
the months of February and March,possibly for a specific purpose. Then you
know, we spent months checking outthis whole ridgeline and checking out the fingers
where these nests are, and that'swhere we discovered twenty three of them,
including two nests that were mirror imagesof what was on the ground, but
they were built into the huckleberry acouple of feet off the ground, almost

(53:59):
like a practice nest. And afterdocumenting and studying these, we started looking
at other ravines adjacent to this areawith the same features, a seasonal salmon
creek down below western facing slope,huckleberry and just really thick, impenetrable areas.
And then in February of twenty twenty, after years and years of looking

(54:21):
for more nest, my partner ToddHell and I walked in on something making
one of these and although we camevery close to seeing it, it departed
the area and we discovered a newnest in the making that day where we
eventually casted two handpressions, a thirdpartial, and some fourteen inch tracks predominantly

(54:43):
in that area, fourteen fourteen anda half inch tracks, and so you
know, that was that was strikinggold. We were looking for more nests
for years, never in my wildestdreams that I think I'd walk in on
something making one of these things.And the huckleberry breaks just like the original
nest area where anywhere from about afoot off the grounds and nine feet off
the ground, and the hawkerberry rangesin size from you know, a quarter

(55:07):
iNTS to you know, over twoand a half inches, very thick,
no claw marks, no teeth marks. So it took something with an apostable
thumb nuts to break this stuff withoutthe teeth and claw marks, but also
to formulate these nests of different sizes. You know, people argue with me,
all it's bear, it says,well, bears don't make multiple nests
in one area like that, ofdifferent sizes. They don't leave well,

(55:29):
they'll leave their hair behind, thehair bound in these nests lacking medula,
they're not. It's not bear hair. In fact, it looks very primate
human like. So there that's justkind of a brief synopsis of the area.
It's it's absolutely tremendous, amazing site. Here. We're looking at February
marks, you know, the falland winter months coming up. We camp

(55:49):
and explore year round. We're notseasonal investigators. We do this year round,
day in and day out, andFebruary marks are coming up, and
that's when I love to be outin the woods, recording and observing within
the hopes of possibly come across morenests. I think we're gonna take a
little bit dimment approaches here. Yeah, some people would probably frown on this,
but I don't really want to disturbwhatever's making these nests. I know
that sounds silly, but it's kindof a personal thing. I know sasp

(56:14):
Wot's exists if they're making nests,which I do believe they do occasionally,
not all the time. It takesa lot of work to put these things
together, and I really don't wantto disturb that. I want to come
in after fact and collect the dataI can from that. If it so
happens I walk in on one beingmade, I'll be ready to go record
that video it so that it won'tbe just the nest themselves. As we

(56:37):
progress further in the Limit project,with the audio aspect that we're doing,
the recordings and everything else that we'vecollected and everything we're doing, we want
to get one of these things onfirm or on video. That's our that's
our main goal right now. We'renot out to shoot one of these things,
are killed that. I think thateven we were, that'd be very
very very difficult task, and we'renot. I want to record one of

(56:59):
these things on camera. I wantto get one on them so it adds
to our portfolio knowledge and data.And without sounding arrogant, I think we're
we've become very close and I thinkwe have we can do this, whether
it's me or another individual and theOlympic Project. I really don't care.
But with some of these new methodsand ideas and things we're trying experiments,

(57:22):
we got some really cool ones,really cool ideas coming up, and with
the equipment we have in our possession, I think it's a matter of time
where we get that really neat footage. Yeah. So with all this research
you're doing, and you know,you know, and all the stuff that
you probably have coming up, howcan people follow you to see all of
this upcoming stuff? Yeah? So, I mean they can. We're not

(57:46):
the best of updating the public perse. We do work with other groups
and individuals outside the Olympic Project,but you can check us out on the
Olympic Project dot com website. Wedo period periodically update people on there.
Of course, you can find meon Instagram or on Facebook as well as
you know some of the other individualslike Chris Spencer. He has a YouTube

(58:07):
channel it's called Total Route Tootle ValleyScuokum on YouTube where he shares a lot
of this stuff and also his audiowork. I'm updating our Limit Project YouTube
page to start sharing some stuff there, you know, and where are you
speaking at. Do you guys haveany engagements coming up? Yeah, David
Ellis and myself will be speaking atthe Sasquats Summit in Ocean Shores, Washington

(58:31):
come November, I think seventeenth,eighteenth and nineteenth, and then squatch Fest
in Kelso, Washington, Uh theend of January, and there's gonna be
some great speakers there. You gotMatt Pruitt speaking, doctor Meldrum, Oh,
and I forget some of the others, but I'm oh, Michael Freeman
will be there. Uh, there'llbe a great BANDU. So you know,

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come out and h and meet upand talk. Love to see some
people there and share your stuff.Yeah, as as expected, we just
there's we didn't even get into somuch of it. But this was awesome.
This was so great. Cheat,thank you so much for sharing everything.
You're such a great speaker, sucha great communicator, and it's so

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fascinating to hear all of your awesomeuh encounters and research. Well, thank
you, Keim and Danis so much. Like I said, it's been a
pleasure being on here and thanks forallowing me on. Thank you for everything
you do, Shane, because you're, like I said, you're just you're
just making a difference out there,and you've been so kind and humble and
just generous to us too as well. So we appreciate you again, appreciate

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the kind words. You guys arefantastic and awesome and and thanks for including
me. I'm really looking forward toyour next edition of Big Influencers. That's
I'm excited about that. Yeah,there'll be a few more the your friends
in there. So I haven't spilledthe beans yet, so I haven't let
anyone know who's in it yet,but I can see deserve it. Folks
in there from the Olympic Project.Yea, so great, cool, see

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so much, so much, thanks, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
they're just they're doing so much outthere. There's a few groups, you
know, we've had a couple ofyou know, a couple of you know,
David Ellis and Chris Spencer on italready and they're just out in the
woods doing things and they're collecting data. And uh, you know West in

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the book, I had West puttogether some data because West his his his
his things called squatter Metrics, isgrouping. He just takes all this collects
data from all the reports that aregoing on around the world and and put
some more in place. And he'sgot a whole thing about the Olympic project,
so it's awesome. We thank you, guys, Thanks guys for joining

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us. Hope, hope you learnedsomething new.