Untold Radio AM #256 Strange Sides of The Bigfoot Mystery with David Bakara

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Looking back on life that you leave him then rested,
hole in the crowd, stick around through the crate, the feeding,
go the fire. You'll be dancing around only hearing the
sound of treating, and no one cares where he's coming from.

(00:30):
My ears are stringing and feeding.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I guess me anew from the start.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Days not go.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know, one of these days will be the world.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Look at.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Who what it's sass my coasta.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Costa in the fuse of the ashes, the spirits.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Ladder and I.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Down the else We're life from the Untold Radio Network.
It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug
Hidchek and co host Jeff Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am
is going live right now. This show is for entertainment

(02:06):
purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Now here are your Untold Radio Am hosts Doug Hicheck
and Jeff Carella Jr.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
And here we are.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hello everyone, Hey Jeff and hello everyone, or should I
say hot damn Tonight we have a very great guest. Yeah,
and he's already with us in the green room, David Bakara.
And he's the owner and curator of the expedition Bigfoot

(02:42):
Museum in Georgia. David is a wealth of experience, certainly
in talking to people and uning first hand encounters where
they don't want to tell anybody else. So we'll be
exploring the entire higher Bigfoot mystery made is the everything strange,

(03:04):
everything normal, whatever. So we'll put our heads together tonight
and see if we come to any kind of consensus.
Because I'm open minded, I don't have any idea. I'm
open to anything.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I know nothing like everything.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've experienced so much weird stuff and even weird stuff
when I'm out researching, so I'm as humble as they come.
So I cannot wait to give David the front stage here. Yeah,
what else we got going on? We do have a
tech breakdown. We have clips, uh in news of course,

(03:45):
we clips and news and clips and the tech breakdown
is kind of cool. I'm kind of excited about that one.
And let's see what else. We got heat and humidity back,
which is not so fun to work outside again. It's
like we got smoke. We're going to talk a little

(04:07):
bit about the smoke. I'm gonna have a hard heart
talk with everybody about this dance. It's get It's been terrible,
but anyhow, but please, you know, grab a cold lemonade.
Turn the air conditioner up. Uh, already, can grab it
another cold beverage.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
I don't care an adult beverage if you prefer.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, if you prefer, you're not driving. But let's get on.
But I wanted to mention I threw together a I
guess it's a music video commercial for Loretta Collins and
Mark do Wors Bigfoot Conference in New York, the first annual.

(04:54):
I'm trying to help these guys out a little bit,
so I like doing it.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
And it's real everyone, you're gonna love this. This is
really cool.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
The event is October third and fourth, so buy your tickets.
Drive there. It's not that far and there's a ton
of people I know that are into bigfoot in that
end of the world.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
I hope I can go. I can't. I can't commit
to it yet, but I'm really hoping I can go.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right, So let's do that and then we're gonna
come back.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh yes, they say they came with their stories. They
came with their proof, from the ebolition hollarg to the
cab andrew.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
The New York Bigfoot Conference just offers more convincing proof.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Sasquat believers the skeptics to under one big grena.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
With a curious cruise, vinder booth and chili fries, Christen
shirts and every.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Size big forty.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
They soon spied him.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Just the other day, and I've this mossy look like
a Sasquat shaw f big for gregoise.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
The man was gonna leave a camera.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Says he heard the howl by a creek so quiet.
You're an old church town wall and soft Foot brands.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
Big as a play, she said, I froze in the woods.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I couldn't escape.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Celebrities, feakers came flash selling big food looks for your monastass,
big mountay.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
The evidence is mounting here after lear.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Spotted him just the other day, the.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Tree fling of shadows, flee.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Big fluttery, don't look away.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Come to the New York Bigfoot conference and.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Believe man, how good was that? Huh the job, Doug,
you have it?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm here. I hope you've liked it. I love that sound.
It's a soft cell commercial, but it does get the
information out. Yeah, it does it in a fun way.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I learned about soft cell when I was in high
school one of them. I remember that way. Did you
guys have to take an advertising class when you were
in high school?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
No? But I did. In college, I did. I did
business classes.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Actually, well that's when I that's what they've stuck me
in from eighth grade on into business school. Uh, in
the senior high because I walked into the principles office
said I'm done with all this that I want to
go to a business class. And I liked it at
the senior I so manyhow all right, Uh, I do

(09:02):
want to welcome some people I want to welcome, but
Worm especially, he's bad. He wrote me a letter he
said I've been banned, and I'm like, well, we'll straighten that.
I don't know how he got banned. I didn't ban him.
Somebody that maybe accidentally did. But anyhow, Alex fixed it.
But Worm's back so high. Butt Worm, thank you Kenny

(09:22):
for the nice uh super chat. We appreciate it. We've
got let's see, pretty good, pretty good crowd. I see, yeah, chat,
butt Worm says, thank you very much. See that's the
kind of service you get when you're right. Old Doug

(09:43):
took care of it for me.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah, we fixed it.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Anyhow, it's just uh, because I've been saying for what
months and where's buttworm? Where's but worm?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yeah, you have mentioned that I had no idea. Yeah,
I don't know that happened.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I know we have no way of knowing. All right,
what else we've got? Yeah, So shout out to everybody
and all the moderators and shot and then I want
to do a shout out to Jim Zu joined us
on a little secret road trip on was that Monday?

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Monday Funday?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah? Yeah, so Jim Jim joined us. He's an untold
radio listener and oyl one. He never comes in chat
though ever. He's a lurker.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
But that's just a great guy. It's fun to have
him along with us.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
We had fun. We were listening to like, uh, the
Sasquatch Chronicles on the way home, all sorts of stuff.
He was picking out things we needed to hear and
it was great. Yeah, but the problem was you got
me hooked on something. You bought a bag of Lifesaver
gummies and you opened a bag and stuck in the

(10:58):
middle of That's great. I can't stop eating them. You're
eating I'm eating them, jim Z. But then we had
a I bought a bag too, so we had two bags.
So we ate.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I know you love them.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh my god, we ate two bags of those damn things,
gummy life savers. Yeah, I'm sure I was making rainbows
when I got home. That was Yeah, it was too much.
And then we stopped a quick trip and we got
some very delicious food. That's all. I'm going to say
a few maybe a few too many ingredients possibly, but good.

(11:31):
I had these crunchy taco things that were like to
die for. They were that good. I'm just like graving
them right now. All right, Yeah, Well we made it home.
Save it was a long day. We drove a lot.
But let's see what else we've got. I think that's
about it. I think we can get right to the

(11:52):
news real quick, and we'll try to get through our
pre show here and get David on all right.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Time for the news.

Speaker 10 (11:57):
Here we go, untold radio news that can be a
bit weird, is right now?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
First off, we have air quality alerts now in ten states.
Is wildfire's burn in Canada seven hundred fires and counting,
five hundred of them are out of control. And I'm like, okay,
so is this gonna get worse. It can't get much worse.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
It's been terrible here. It's just terrible.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, they say we have the worst air in Minnesota
anywhere in the world. And that's bad.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
It's been. It's been terrible. It's just unpleasant to be outside.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But here's what's funny. I did a little research. This
is my news. I did a little research, looked up
the smoke map, did all that, and and maybe you
can go down. There's a photo photo two I put
up and that's the smoke map map, not Matt smoke
map from two thirty in the morning last night. Right.

(13:04):
As you can see, a lot of the smoke is
coming up from above Hudson.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well there's not even any damn trees up there, right,
it's just wet moss. So I'm like forest fire. They
didn't mention there's speed fires. Nobody mentioned that. Maybe there is,
But what's going on right there could be I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
That'd be miserable to put that out. Yeah, so the majudren.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, but here's where it gets weird. So you go
on the other side and you type in you know,
Canadian rainfall, Oh, Canada. So I get this report about
how Canada is getting more expected u. It says, let's
see here, I'll read this. This is my news. It

(13:52):
says predictions for Canada's rain levels and twenty twenty five
indicate an increase and precipitation in many regions. Climate models
suggests that Canada will experience more intense rainfall events due
to climate everything's climate change right, too much, rains, climate
change too little. It's like, oh, like really, they have
to get that line in there every time, particular in

(14:14):
the northern and eastern parts of the country. Wall in
the northern part that's burning like crazy. But it was
just it talked about all of the downpours, heavier downpours
in Canada. Blah blah. It says long term trends over
the past decade decade, Canada has already observed a trend
of increasing precipitation increasing. So then why are there more wildfires?

(14:41):
That's the question.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
I don't remember. Do you remember summer? Never it's the
wettest summer I can remember. It's been pouring rain here
more often than not.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
These weather systems going to Canada. Okay, so my thing
is it's got to be arson that's.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Probably going on that that's kind of what I've been reading.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I think it's being downplayed, but I don't know. But man, good,
get the US Army up there, Get everything you got,
get all this crap, because we're choking on the smoke.
It's come on, people, get real, get these fires out
all right. Next, researchers were shocked to discover an enormous

(15:27):
new species of insect. And there's a video of it there,
and it says researchers were shocked to discover an enormous
new species of stick insect in Australia in the Australian forest,
highlighting just how much humans have yet to learn about
the biology and the rich habitat right. That's man, we

(15:51):
don't know anything. How did that thing stay hidden? It's
the heaviest insect in Australia for sure, and it's a
go fifteen inches in length, weighs forty four grams one
point six ounces. It's a big bug.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
It's a bug.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
And then Hell's bells. America's cattle farms are being protected
by ec DC music and I thought, okay, I gotta
read this. So they're apparently they're up Photo three. This
is their strategy. They're playing ec DC music at farms

(16:29):
and drones, and apparently the wolves don't like ac DC
and they flee. That's the strategy, and I'm thinking, okay,
it sounds good. It says hits including Thunderstrucked and Blue
On Black are chasing away wolves. So there you go,

(16:51):
there you go. Yeah, this is what we need. And
then in Minnesota, here on the research vessel the Blue Heron,
which I'm highly familiar with because I've done research on
that ship, a black goo was oozing from the ship
on the Great Lakes and teeming with undiscovered life. So

(17:14):
they're discovering new light goo. And this goo was trapped
between the basically the propeller shaft and the housing and
it was growing. And apparently they discovered all sorts of
new bacteria and probably planked in and all sorts of
new creatures and living in Lake Superior that were making

(17:37):
the Blue Herons drive shaft its own. Yeah, and that's
what it looks like. They call it black goo. It says.
The research vessel Blue Heron trawls the Great Lakes, gathering
data from water. The floating Laboratory's most recent discovery, however,
came from an unexpected location. Its own runner well doc

(18:00):
after a long cruise to study algae balloons in the
Great Lakes. It says this was in September of last year.
The mechanism that allows the eighty seven foot long nearly
twenty seven meter long boat to change directions. Unsure of
what this odd goo was, Doug Ricketts, who I know,

(18:23):
marine superintendent and senior research associate at the University of
Minnesota Duluth Large Observatory, got these articles, brought a cup
of the substance for testing, and that was this material
was teeming with life forms that were unknown and unknown

(18:44):
micro organisms.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Ship Lake Superior.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, and they've been formally named it ship Go one.
And apparently it's an oxygen free environment, which is also
what's really interesting about it. There's no yeah, that's it's
like what do they call it life? That's another living
on like meteorites and other things. That's interesting. So the

(19:14):
mugu is is found, the goal will be collected without
disturbing its oxygen free environment. So they got to get
it and then keep it in a vacuum. But throw
up the photo of my project that I did with
the Blue Hair and cooperation called the Bath. They could
explore I have a weird life. I built this thing

(19:37):
like a mad scientist in my garage one day, and
well I took me more to day. But I remember
my neighbor coming over and saying what just always shaking
his head constantly, you know. So I built this and
this was the world's first instrument that had three sixty vision.

(19:59):
It had the worlds first SAGE they call it SAGE,
which is the inland tide measuring device. Had never been invented,
never been used, and it was to measure the inland tides,
like the tide goes in and out. Lakes Spear and
the Great Lakes had never been measured. I did that.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And then I used the world's first multi multi frequency cameras.
That was the first time those had ever been used.
The Navy has now adapted those.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, because it's water piercing technology. It pierces the water.
So there you go. And what we learned all sorts
of things and discovered how like the mice's shrimp and
the Great Lakes migrate up and down the water column,
and we got to measure the stage and actually see
it in action visually with these floating floatation plastic eye

(20:49):
I developed, and yeah, it was really a fun, fun project.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
But any I don't think people appreciate just how big
Lake Superior is it. It's so deep. I mean, there's
a lot of undiscovered stuff in that lake. There has
to be, well there is.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, that's why I built the camera and we submerged
at the bottom of the experior and it was there
for almost a year gathering data, all sorts of data.
I mean, I didn't want to get into it. It take
me an hour. But it could also do experiments and
conducted fish intelligence experiments as an example. That's cool, did

(21:24):
all sorts of things, and I get it. Well, I
could do a whole show just on that thing.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
That was really that'd be fun to talk about Lake Superior.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, anyhow, all right, so moving on.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Sorry, I saw a picture of the blue hair and
I brought back all these memories.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Oh yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
A woman faces more than a twenty thousand dollars medical
bills after a wild bat flies into her mouth.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
The bat flew into her mouth, and of course she
had to go treatment for you know what. And I'm
gonna mention it. And she is okay, but she had
up getting this giant bill and her insurance company wouldn't
cover it because they said there was some thirty day
waiting period. That's why she bought it to travel to Australia, right,

(22:11):
and they wouldn't cover it. So I don't know what's
going on now, but but she described it to a
weren't for the horrible medical bill. Everything was fine, you know,
but imagine that thing flying in your mouth.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Oh thanks.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
She did describe how it tasted. She said it tasted earthyez.
All right, next, not on the news. That's a Doug's
clip picks. Let's do it ready for some clips? Here
we go, all right, Clip one, the sound is good. Now,

(22:53):
how can you not have too many frogs?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
A lot of truck just.

Speaker 9 (23:02):
A lot of rock.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's amazing, isn't it? Isn't nature leaning?

Speaker 11 (23:09):
Yeah? Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't want to give people nightmares. They're gonna have
frog nightmares. Okay. Clip two? Uh, this is talking about
this new have you read about this new three I
atlas object that there are a lot of scientists saying
this thing's got to be a ship because it's plotting

(23:36):
a course. It's not acting like a comet or anything else,
or any other object. It's actually got some kind of
very interesting course that defies just a natural object. Are
you aware of that, David?

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I'm sorry, I was. I was trying to get this
to get Are.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
You aware of this? All right? I don't play it.
Are you aware of this object? This Atlas three eyes?

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh? You are? Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, all right? Well I told the audience what is
Let's go ahead and play this clip. I'd be interested
in knowing what people think. There's no sound, Jeff, Oh,
what's going on?

Speaker 9 (24:13):
Perfectly in the same flat plane that the planet's orbit
in the ecliptic.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, sorry about that. This video got corrupted here.

Speaker 9 (24:20):
Another major point is about its orbit. Most interstellar objects
enter at random angles, but this one is different. Its
path lies almost perfectly in the same flat plane that
the planet's orbit in the ecliptic. That kind of alignment
is incredibly rare, and it's not just a coincidence. This
angle would actually allow a flyby path that brings it

(24:44):
closer to multiple planets, almost like a planned route. It's
similar to how we design the trajectory of our Voyager
spacecraft to pass by several planets for study. According to calculations,
the chances of this kind of precise alignment happening randomly
is only about zero point two percent. And it gets

(25:04):
even more curious. The object passed unusually close to Venus, Mars,
and Jupiter. These are some of the closest planets to Earth,
and having an object from another star system comes so
near to all three in one journey is highly unlikely.
The chances of this happening randomly are around zero point

(25:25):
zero zero five percent, which is extremely rare. It's almost
as if the object is on a carefully chosen path,
one that maximizes interaction with the inner Solar System. Another
weird coincidence is that when three I Atlas comes closest
to the Sun or its perihelion, it will be on

(25:45):
the opposite side of the Sun from Earth. This means
Earth will be completely blocked from seeing it at that moment,
the Sun will be right in the way. The chance
of this kind of alignment is around seven percent, which
again is not very high. It feels almost like the
object is deliberately avoiding our view, slipping past Earth through

(26:07):
its one major blind spot.

Speaker 12 (26:09):
So the unusual trajectory of this object offers the possibility
that it might have been designed so as to have
some goals of a reconnaissance mission.

Speaker 11 (26:22):
So it's possible that it's a comet.

Speaker 12 (26:24):
But if that's the case, it will become very clear
as it comes closer to the sun and gets heated
so that it's evaporation rate that gets much larger, and
then the glow of dust and gas.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
I got the idea.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's interesting. I hope they figure out what it is.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, there's uh yeah, I can actually talk about that
a long time. I've done a little bit of research
on it. Yeah, I don't know. It's just weird.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's weird. The chances of it acting is where weird,
as did Muhamoa. Yeah, and I don't know what became
of that. I guess it just disappeared whatever. All Right.
The next one is kind of in line with the
same thing. The sound is good. This is sound captured
on Mars, and it's something I'm like, God, did I

(27:13):
ever hear sound captured on Mars before? And I'm thinking,
I don't think, So I go ahead and play this
really interesting? All right? That's it, all right, Jeff weird,

(27:39):
That's all I can say. Someone's gonna superimpose that. In
some bigfoot audio videos, it sounds like a creature screaming,
but they claim it's meteorites hitting the surface. It's causing
weird like whatever. All right, four is sound? Is good?

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Wrong? One hold on?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Wrong one? Sorry, sorry, here we go. All right, so
this is good. There's a really funny delayed reaction at
the end. Just go ahead and play it with sound reaction. Yeah,
it's a bigfoot. The guy that they put the food,

(28:26):
it just scares a living crowd. Even though the thing
was talking to him, it still freaked him ot when
he finally noticed what it looked like. Yeah, he just
jumps again. All right. Then we have a clip with
the world's smallest motor that we're gonna build, Jeff, a
little motorcycle with little micro motorcycle. I have this thing.

Speaker 13 (28:48):
This is the world's smallest motor elect wheel which it
falls from your hand. You will probably never find it.
It is smaller than a grain of sand. And the
surprising thing is that the biggest part of this motor,
which is the wheel, is the smallest. Inside it, there
are four capacitors, a power circuit, and a single fan wheel.
But the thing to think about is how it would

(29:08):
have been assembled.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, there you go, and it's crazy nanotechnology. And it's
gonna get smaller. I mean they're going to keep they
keep making things smaller and smaller.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
All right.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Clip six. No sound on this, but a lot of
people are familiar with barn owls. But this is how
the act when they feel threatened. It's really interesting. They
do a dance interesting on Jeff. Jeff is muted.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
All right, that's cool, man. I had a cough.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, that's what the cough button is for. All right.
Then I had to sneak a little dad joke in
or I just had to. It's a pretty funny one.
You can cut it off at anytime. The first one's
the funniest. Go ahead, neat audio. No audio, no audio,

(30:13):
darn it, no audio, it's good. No audio, Jeff, it's.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
No audio, Jeff Freebie, no audio, really no nothing. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I know it's weird. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I don't know, Gremlins. Did we talk about that last weeklins?
I don't know what's going on?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, know of that. Clip eight. Sound is fine, even
though you may not have any I.

Speaker 11 (30:46):
Don't need it.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
But this is this is a very out of place animal.
See this, This is not the environment you see them
in Beer down in the boreal forest of Canada. Yuh.
And a lot of people don't know they head into
the forest right in the summer. They actually go south.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, they go south and they hibernate kind of sort of,
they rest and they just pretty much chill out for
until the ice is formed on like Hudson Bay, and
that's when they go hunting. But polar bears are as
far south, are just like one hundred miles from Cell Grove.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Just weird really Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh yeah, they come that far, that far down.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
They're dangerous. That's a dangerous animal. Yeah, the most dangerous animals.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I don't know if they eat much in the summer though,
I really don't think they do, so I thought that
was just kind of cool. You don't see footage of
polar bears in the summer.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Okay, Oh, I see what the problem is. Uh, it's
a problem with street to restart my browser all right, anyways.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Uh, the next one one is just a really good
illusion of movement where there is none and just couldn't
play this. These things are not moving at all. But
you'll see them just going up and down and all around.
It's a beautiful illusion.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Those objects have not moved at all. So there you go.
You cannot always believe your eyes. You cannot. All right,
then let's see your uh oh nah, you don't really
need to just read what it says. Everybody, Okay, read it.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
I hate water meltains. You read that wrong. You read
that wrong too. Oh, I just failed it.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
It says I hate water lemons, water lemons. You that
read wrong? You read that wrong too. So you've read
two things wrong and had no idea. Yep, I wasn't
pointed out, and I'm sure our audience will find the same.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
I just failed to read it.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Right now, I failed it too. That's how quick we
are to judge things. You know, we just skim. We're
just skimmers. We read the news, we skim, we read headlines,
we just skim. You know, we're all skimmers. But when
you actually have to go back and somebody says that's wrong,
you go back and you go, wow, how did I

(33:35):
miss that? It's two things?

Speaker 5 (33:36):
That's pretty wild, all right now.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
The next is a IQ test that we're going to
be giving people in the first person to throw the
answer in the chat, we will send them something free.
This is not a contest.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
It's not a very important it's very important.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
It's not a contest first person to get this answer right,
and it is an IQ test. It's very simple. But
if you get it right, just put your comment down
as quick as you can and we'll send you something.
All right, go does ninety eight percent of people fail this?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Anybody got it? I actually figured that out.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, it's okay, Michelle Mitchell or I can't read it's gone, Michelle.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, Michelle will follows first, so please email me. I'll
type it in the chat here. We have an email
me job job michellem dot com. I'm typing it in
the chat right now.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Oh and Lee was just really close, super close, super close.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
So well, Michelle, email me your contact from your address
and uh, dougle get something out to you.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, all right, Tech breakdown we're gonna bring on David,
and this tech breakdown won't take wrong. I could actually
cut out something about it. But what's going get going on?
Tech break there? All right? This is going to be

(35:38):
about a mini very versatile camera that's more handy than
a chip clip during a football game right zon, and
you have to spend much money twenty two bucks, many
many different brands. You can get all sorts of different
brands twenty two bucks. It's it's hard to believe even
I don't even I have no idea how they can

(35:58):
even mail it for that little loan ship it out
free for that. It's insane crazy. These are really high quality,
and I have one. I have one of my gradu
user the last night he gave me. But they're really
handy for camera traps. Why because they have a fixed
focus lens. They are tiny, it's like less than a

(36:18):
quarter of an inch or about a quarter of an inch.
And you can hide these anywhere. You can turn the
light off, you can do whatever. They're very low light.
You could slip one through the screen on your tent,
or through the floor, poke a little hole in the
bottom or side of your tent, slip this out, and
you've got a really cool camera that you can manipulate.

(36:40):
But let's cut right to this, this one, which is
a little more expensive because they make articulating ones. Put
a photo twa. Let's see your photo thirteen. Throw that
one up. So I know for a fact, this one's
like forty nine bucks. It still is extremely cheap for
what you get, and you can see the end. You

(37:02):
can actually do that little thumb wheel and that thing
will move around anywhere you want a little articulating end.
A lot of people. Yeah, these are called endoscopes, bordscopes,
snake cameras, and that's why they're handy just to everyone
the house.

Speaker 11 (37:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's a great investment because you can dig it out.
You can dig it out to your cabin, you can
dig it out on camping, and it'll tell you what's
going on outside your town. Right, bring a black cloth,
throw it over your head so when you turn it
on you hear something. You turn this thing on, you
can maybe see what it is or what we're going

(37:42):
to talk about tonight. You might hear it and may
not be able to see it. I don't know, but
that's the mystery we're trying to solve. But you can
hide hide the tip in a log.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
A piece of all the showing is that the tip
of that thing is really cool.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, it's very cool, and they're very low light. They
work really good, and they're not expensive. This one is
forty nine bucks, but it comes with a thirty two
gig SD card, So those aren't cheap either, so you
get really everything. The drawback on the more expensive ones
or the short the cord is short or five point

(38:17):
five feet versus like sixteen up to thirty two feet
lost though it's not really a cord. It's a very
stiff wire. That's stiff, it's bendable. You can pose it
in any shape you want, right, So you can do
some really once you get this thing, you can do
some really creative camera traps in your camp or even

(38:38):
away from your camp, you know, because it'll record and
buffer on that SD card, And so I would imagine
you're going to get at least eight nine hours of
record time.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Yeah, well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's it. We're done. We can bring David. Yeah all right,
well let me yeah, so, let me introduce David here. So,
and I hope I'm pronouncing David's name right. I think
I am David Bakara or Bakara. I don't know, do

(39:11):
we spell it wrong as it Bakara or Bakara. I
think it's Bakara with a A.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
All right.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
He's from Georgia and he often talks about reports that
he has taken in the past. David is used used
to be in research in a research organization and later
on branched out to new horizons within the Crypti subject.
David Bakara is the owner of Expedition Bigfoot in Georgia.

(39:40):
It's a Sasquatch museum. I guess it's really amazing and
it's located in Blue Ridge, Georgia. David has spoken with
many people about other worldly characteristics right about Bigfoot, and
we're going to talk about that. We'll also talk about
the normal side of Bigfoot, the things they do, I mean,

(40:02):
the hair, they leave, the scat, they might leave the
road crossings, you know, if it's otherworldly wise across the road.
I don't know. I have no idea, I don't know anything.
But let's just go ahead and bring David on and
then we'll get down to the conversation here that I'm

(40:23):
excited about.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Okay, just a second, we'll get David. Come on, all
right and welcome David.

Speaker 11 (40:46):
Good to be here.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Hey, David, how are you. It's so good to meet you.

Speaker 11 (40:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
As you know, Ashley, who I believe works for you,
is joining the Untold Radio now work with Squatch and Holler,
which debuts I believe tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Ashley and Amanda and Roger Roger ye, and they're about to.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Last.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah. Yeah. So anyhow, but some great people. You obviously
have good taste in people, David, because they've gotten to nowhere.
They're just great people to work.

Speaker 11 (41:23):
Bigfoot people seem to be the best people.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know, Why do people say they aren't. They're the
most wonderful. I have never personally run into anybody that
wasn't nice. Me too, Yeah, good, good, and it's nice.
You know. I like to go to the conferences. Maybe
you like to for the same reason. You feel like
you're with your people. Yeah, like you're understood or you know,

(41:49):
it's just they're open minded. Most people are open minded.
They want to learn, they're curious about the world. Those
are the best people in the world curiosity. All right,
So tell us just real quick about your museum, because that's,
you know, obviously where you've gained so much of your
knowledge is owning this museum and being the curator.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
Yeah. So, my wife and I moved up here in
twenty thirteen from Sarasota, Florida, and we moved up to
this little cabin which is where we still live on
a ridge surrounded by bears and deers when we're in
the thicket. It up here, and we moved up here.
I went back to the restaurant business. I was driving

(42:32):
truck over the road, and once we came up here,
I just said, I can't go back. It's too beautiful
up here. I just want to be outside. I don't
want to be in the cab of a truck driving
back in orange juice, back and forth from Florida, California.
So I went back in the restaurant business up here,
and people kept saying to me, Hey, Dave, is there

(42:53):
anything interesting to do with the kids out there? My
family's coming to visit. You live up here, now, what's
fun to do? And have any good answers for him?
Except for maybe go to the orchards and pick some apples.
I'm thinking somebody should really open something up here. So
long story short, my wife and I put our heads together.
If I was at a researcher, I had all kinds

(43:15):
of casts. I thought, how interesting would it be to
open up a little museum and just kind of educate
people and make it a family fun thing. And a
building happened to come up. It was almost like it
was all planned by somebody destiny. Yeah, and this building
opens up seven miles from my house, in between me
and Blue Ridge, and it was very inexpensive. Durant wasn't

(43:40):
in great shape. We spent months this building used to
be an old country Western bar and put what he
had in there. And when people find out what we
were doing, they start saying, hey, i've got some extra
cast I've got some hair samples, I got this, I
got I'll take it. So kind of researchers kicked in
a lot of stuff and in two thousands sixteen we opened,

(44:02):
and my wife was kind of nervous. She thought, yeah,
I'm not sure if this is going to go. And
I don't know why. I really don't know. I can't
explain it. But I had absolutely no doubts that this
was going to take off. And usually i'm a very
cautious person. I don't I'm not a big risk taker.
But when I was standing walls and putting maps on
the wall and making exhibits, making different things, I didn't

(44:25):
want this to be like your grandfather's museum. We had
to read everything I wanted it to be, so that
when you came with your family and your kids and
your teenagers. They weren't snoring. Right. If you're going to
be the one that's going to introduce this subject matter
to another generation, you have a big responsibility. You don't
want kids to come to your museum and then leave

(44:45):
and go, well that was boring, right, because that'll be it.
That might be the only chance you get to introduce
this subject matter to them. So I took coming from Flora,
took everything I learned from theme parks and museums.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
That I liked.

Speaker 11 (44:58):
I took the stuff I liked. I left off this,
I left out the filler. Of course, doctor Meldrum had
a wonderful cast collection, so I got several casts from him,
and we opened up the doors in February, thinking it
was going to be just a little thing and just
be me, my wife working fellas. Let me tell you,
there's way more interest in this than you can possibly imagine.

(45:24):
We started off and it was just like we hit
the road and all of a sudden, I needed more
more people. I needed more employees. Three We now have
seven full time employees. Wow, and we're open seven days
a week. You can't even close to Somebody shows up
on a Tuesday and you're off. They're mad. I drove
all the way from Cincinnati, so we have to be

(45:46):
open seven days a week. And we went from I
think twenty six thousand people our first year to now
we're doing about seventy to seventy five thousand people a year.
It passed through.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh wow. Think of the impact you have on kids.

Speaker 11 (46:02):
Especially right, And that's the part that really that's the
most important to me because I'm not going to be
able to change a lot of adults' minds, but kids,
this is an and people. When I was a kid
grow up in Miami and I was watching Skuncave bitfa
stuff on TV, they kind of did me a favor
because they opened my eyes. I to see park rangers

(46:23):
and police officers talking about the skun Cape on TV,
and you know, it was serious. There was no tongue
in chic as much like there is now when the
news reports it. And it had impact on me and
I wanted to I wanted to pay forward that, so
I do this. There's nothing cheesy, zero cheesy in there.
It's the best I can do. But I have to

(46:44):
keep it. I can't tell them. I can't divulge all
the scary stuff. I have to keep it on a
pretty kind of even level, so nobody leaves. They're terrified
to go back to the inside. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
No, watching some video I don't remember when, but you
had a little monster request something in there for monster quests,
some masks that were used for reconstructions or something.

Speaker 11 (47:10):
Yeah, I made this mask MEIU for us.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yes, yeah, oh that's what it was. Okay, anyhow, but
we I got I got a few things I love
to send you, so I'll take them. Oh yeah, yeah.
So anyhow, Probably the highlight though, was when people want
to talk to you. I would imagine they want to
they want to tell you the why they're there, because

(47:34):
I would imagine the average person that has no interest
in big but maybe not stop that. Isn't it true
that most of your customers know somebody or have had
some kind of experience themselves.

Speaker 11 (47:49):
Yeah, that's I think. My wife asked me what if people?
First of well, what if people come in and they
want to argue with me about if this is real? Yeah,
like skeptical, I know it. And I said, well, we'll
just take that on a case by case basis, And
that was the end. Of the that was seven years ago.
We haven't discussed yet, and it's never happened. Somebody in
the group, it's either the husband or the wife or

(48:11):
one of the teenagers is either interested in this, or
some of the husband or wife saw one as a child,
or their brothers saw one and it's in the back
of their mind and they drive, Oh, we got to
go in there. So there's so many people, and I
promise you there's way more people that see these things,
these maps you see. I moved up here, well since

(48:34):
we opened in twenty thirteen. I'm not even opening. I
just put the sign up on the front. I'm staying
in walls and there's a knock on the door and
there's a guy. That was my first bigfoot report taken
up here when they at the museum and we weren't
even open yet. And since that's happened since we opened up,
they come in in droves. One Saturday, I took so
many bigfoot reports that my mind was killing me by

(48:57):
five o'clock, saying, don't send one more. I can't take anymore,
but my brain because I learned something really important, is
that if somebody's telling you a bigfoot report, if you
grab a piece of paper in a pen, if you
grab a camera or listening to a recording, let me
get my record. Whoa, whoa. You have got to just

(49:20):
let that person tell you a story. And I used
to not have a very good memory, borre. Let me
tell you that, my friend, My memory has gotten a
little sharper because I have to remember all these details.
I might grab a pen whether talking, I'll just say
what road was it? Three agency, I'll just write that down.
But they will the best stories. Those folks will not
let you record it. It took me a little while,

(49:42):
but I understood that it's so, he says, it's either
so traumatic for them or the people in the South.
They're not transplants. They're born here, raised here. Every friend
they have in the world lives here, all their schoolmates.
They don't move on a lot. And those people do
not want to be ridiculed by everybody in the world.

(50:07):
So that's one thing about taking these reports is that
you're going to have to you just better. You better
have a good memory, and then excers leave you better
jot as much down.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
That's awesome. So I would imagine you get the uneventful
reports that are just road crossing, you know, I imagine
that's probably the majority of reports, isn't it just basics
on on at the side of the road or road crossing.
And then you get the the other ones that don't

(50:39):
really fit in any category that are probably freaky. But
I think you've heard so many strange ones, as we
all have and all even experienced, and we've all experienced strangeness.
If you're if you're not experienced something weird, you're not
out there, right. Do you have any that you want

(51:01):
to recall, like any of these really ones that kind
of like can't you can't get them out of your
head because they kind of haunt you.

Speaker 11 (51:09):
I'll tell you. Even though most of the stories I
take are are and the girls take tons and tons,
I'm not because I'm at the museum all the time.
I'm actually working on another museum, so I'm not there
every day. So the girls take the reports and they
send it to me, and I'm fortunate where I can
scan through them, and the girls know I'm looking for
the unusual elements and the people they don't want to.

(51:33):
They won't call you on the phone or email you
with a strange story because their name's on it. I
found that if you want to get the really great
stories where they either terrified or there was unusual elements,
that they're going to tell you to your face because
you can't read that, they can stop you from recording it.
And people don't drive one hundred and fifty two hundred
miles across three states to come and tell you a

(51:54):
big fat lie. And a lot of these stories, a
lot of these stories they tell you they're white to
stand it next to them, their children, to stand it
next to them, and that has that has an impact
on the validity of the stories you're taking when your
family is standing right there. My friend, I've taken so
many strange stories that it's changed me to change the

(52:16):
way that I look at this phenomenon, and not in
a good way. It's it's very frightening. Yeah, because I live,
like I told you, I live right in the thick
of the woods. Their side.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well, the thing is is, you know, like me, I'm
extremely open. I have no answers on anything, and I've
experienced weird stuff too. But I'm not gonna say I'm
gonna stop researching because of the weird stuff. Because whatever
it is, when they're here they're here right. Let's say
that they are this or that, or you know, paranormal

(52:48):
or metaphysical or whatever category you want to put them in.
They're still here.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
You know.

Speaker 11 (52:54):
I had a I had a I think it might
have been like two months. I have to we have
to open the museum. And I was working the desk
and another researcher was standing there. J C. Williams was
standing there talking to me.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Was it J. C.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Johnson?

Speaker 11 (53:09):
No, This a fella's name is Jac. And this older
couple had finished up and I was standing behind the
desk and Jac was standing next. We're just talking and
they're getting ready to leave. And they said, boy, you
got a great museum here, but if you want to
hear some great stories, should talk to my mother.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Now.

Speaker 11 (53:28):
These folks were in their sixties and so their mother
must have been a late eighties into her nineties. And
I said, oh, really like what And he said, when
I was a baby, I'm sorry, before I was born.
My older brother, when he was a baby, they lived
in a cabin in Elegi, which is the town actually living.

(53:52):
And this was back in the fifties. So there, she said,
I assumed there was no screens on the window. So
it was a hot summer and they had the windows open,
and the mother, who was ninety now, but she was
a young mother. Then she hears a commotion noise coming
from the baby's room. So he says, she gets up,
and she walks into the baby's room, opens up the

(54:15):
door to the shock of her life. In there is
a wood booger, one of these hairy people, and it's
got It had crawled into the window and was holding
the baby, and it was trying to breastfeed the baby.
And I looked at jac and Okay, I'm like this,
that's crazy. I immediately thought this guy was just yanking

(54:37):
my chain. I looked at JC and we looked at them,
and we realized that these people were not kidding. They
weren't the kidding type because a lot of them they're
from up here. There's not a lot of humor in
this kind of stuff up here. If they're telling you,
they're serious about it. And I think I even said
to him, are you serious? He said, I'm damn serious.

(54:57):
And if you want, I actually get my mother. I'll
see if I get her to come in or tell
you that story herself. He said. My brother unfortunately is
not around anymore. But my mother told me this story,
and my brother told me this story, and it really
happened right here in El j He said, well, you know,
I'll try to get her to come in, and he

(55:18):
left with his wife. There was no humor attatchment. They
weren't joking. And that was the first time I got
I got a story where I was just like bam,
my jog hit the ground. And uh. After that brother,
I talked to a guy over by Amaclola State Park
who came in with his boss. And this was probably

(55:40):
maybe three years after we opened up. I'm guessing and
uh again I'm working and he's uh. He says, I
gotta I gotta tell you a story something that happened
to me. With these things, that's why I came here.
But it's so weird that I actually brought my boss
with me to verify to vouch for me that I'm
that I'm not kidding that I'm a good right. I

(56:00):
live here, so I knew this was going to be good.
So he says, I walk out on my deck. He's
right over by Ama Colola State Park, which is about
maybe thirty eight forty minute drive from here and can
I can tell you other stories from Ama Colola State Park.
I get a lot of those as well. So I
walk out on my deck. I'm having a cigare and

(56:21):
a cup of coffee. The sun's off. It's like seven
o'clock in the morning. I don't remember what season it was,
he says. I'm just sitting there clicking my thoughts, thinking
what my day is going to be. And I catch
movement from the corner of my eye and I look
up and there's this person walking along the fence line.
And there's a fence that comes from a pasture and

(56:43):
then there's an opening where they drive the tractor in there.
And he says, I'm looking at this person and he's thinking,
what the hell is this guy doing walking? He's walking,
but he said it had this really strange gliding, like
it wasn't bobbing up in town as it was. He says,
looking he's looking at and he's thinking, geez, that's a
big guy. Why is he got a why is he

(57:03):
follow like you just assumed he had a fur coat
on or a gillea suit. And as it comes, because
now the fence is between him and it. When it
clears around the fence and starts walking right in front
of him. He realizes why it looks like that. He says,
this thing crossed right in front, right across my yard,
right past me, never looked at me. And this thing

(57:24):
was not touching the ground. That's why I wasn't botted.
He said. It was above six to eight inches above
the ground and he was just gliding right across the ground. Said,
I just stood with my copper coffee. We went right
across my yard, went right across the street and down
to the other pasture on the other side. And I
think this happened maybe a month or two before he

(57:45):
came to tell me. I ended up going back to
this place. I put cameras. He might me put cameras,
so I might put three or four cameras. There was
a big dumpster. It was a it was at a campground.
He thought maybe it was coming to the dumpster, so
I put the camera. I didn't catch you anything. And uh,
that was another strange story, And that kind of played
into all these possible explanations. While we get these weird

(58:06):
stories of these gliding motions.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Well, let's talk about let's talk about the gliding. Let's
kind of focus on that for a little bit, because
I've heard so many, you know, stories or encounters. It's
just weird. But then then of course I've seen these videos.
Maybe you have, David. If not, maybe Jeff can find
one of this walk you can do where it looks

(58:31):
like you never touched the ground, like it's such a
good illusion. It doesn't look like any of your feet everything.
Can you find something like that, Jeff on YouTube? Can
you do that? Okay, I want to talk about that,
because that's just one, you know, I try to debunk
everything I hear. I don't care what it is. But

(58:51):
they do have a weird walk. They have such weird
leg movement right as it is where if you just
look at it, and I don't really think it looks
like a normal human walking, but the legs are doing
all of this weird things. They're splaying, they're knockinging, they're angling,
they're almost just like a Peruvian horse. There's YouTube videos

(59:15):
and you look at a proving horse gate and they're
designed to go uphills, and they're also smooth as silk.
But they do this naturally. And I remember I was
filming a proving horse at a proving horse ranch and
I just I was filming it with a with my
camera and I was looking through the vfinder, going, I
don't even see the horses feet touch the ground. It's weird.

(59:39):
It's like, what is this gate? And I studied it
at home, and then many years later I got interested
in bigfoot obviously, and then I started seeing the same
patterns with Patty when we would go frame by frame
and pose a model. And then I said, oh my god,
it's very similar to a a Pruvian horse, which is

(01:00:03):
not your normal human walk obviously, and so I'm not
against thinking they're glide and float, but I'm also not
against there maybe some almost supernatural walk, complicated walk, because
we obviously we don't know. We don't know anything, and
I you know what I mean, We know, but we

(01:00:23):
don't know. We hear a lot of the data from people,
and it is data, but god, it would be nice
if we actually knew. So how many reports have you
taken that seemed like they just float across the road
or glided up a mountain or that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:39):
The only one I talked that they actually saw that
they they weren't touching the ground. Okay, I've talked to
a lot of people that said it came up behind
them and it didn't make a sound, and they don't
know how or they saw it and then it fled
and it didn't make any sound, like like the leaves
didn't rustle. They don't know how it took off without
making a sound. Talk to a priest who came in,

(01:01:02):
told me he was hunting in Oregon before he was
a priest and when he was in the military on
leave and he saw was it was he by himself
or was he with a friend? I can't remember. He
was buying something with a friend and they saw a
sasquatch down this their shooting rate, not they're shooting where
they were shooting through the woods and it walked through

(01:01:23):
me to turn and walked away, and they as soon
as it was gone, they jumped down and started tracking it.
He said, the tracks just stopped in the snow. There
was nowhere to jump. It just stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, that's a real common issue where they just the
trackway ends. And then's something that I don't know how
to address it. And obviously are they just disappearing do
they do they even know they're just they are disappearing?
Do they even know they're disappearing.

Speaker 11 (01:01:51):
I found it interesting too that during the past Beulah
UFO induction incident with Hickson.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
And Yep, yep, down in Louisian.

Speaker 11 (01:02:00):
Yeah, nice guys. I actually had a chance to talk
to the younger one before he passed away to Kimemer
his name right now, nice Kelvin Parker's alt Parker. These
these guys was to god. They said they didn't need
this stuff. Those those those aliens and there and the
tall thing with the weird spikes coming off of their head.

(01:02:21):
They hovered across the ground. They didn't touch the ground
when they came off the ship. They hovered a foot
or so above the ground. And that's how they approached them.
And after doing more research to listen to other UFO witnesses,
those aliens do the same thing. Some of the Kelly
Hopkinsville aliens, they didn't touch the ground. They were hoven
arouns across. So this is these patterns. You want to

(01:02:46):
be very you have to be exceptionally gifted to put
a few patterns together. Those things started to gel in
my brain, amongst other another.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Honey well, all of the mothman sightings to defy gravity,
they don't use their wings to fly. They seem to
just open them and take straight off. They and I
hate to admit this, but me and a Vet we
had a mothman sighting that dived out my car that

(01:03:16):
was way up in the sky, David, and it drops
the wings. We could see the wings open, huge, drop
straight down like a spider stopped right above the freeway,
just stopped and then headed right for my car windshield. Wow.
And eventually Vet ducked, And of course I ducked eventually

(01:03:37):
do but I hung on an extra second probably, And
I humbled me. That experience humbled me about anything, because
that shouldn't be living in our forests. It wasn't a
forced Yeah, it just shouldn't be here. It shouldn't be
on planet. It shouldn't be able to do it. How

(01:03:58):
do you drop straight down with wings? But you can't.
It defies, uh, you know, all sorts of physics. But
yet we both saw it, David, and I know we
saw it, and I know, no, it wasn't because it's
haunts us and it's given it's given a Vet a
lot of issues with traveling now. She won't even go

(01:04:22):
with me, even in the car into forested areas. Even
on the freeway. It's a it's a.

Speaker 11 (01:04:28):
Problem, right, well, at least yourself when you saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I was, yeah, I wish I would have been by
myself now, but you know, having her with at least
I know I'm not crazy. But we didn't say anything
to anybody for years. We just tipped our mouth shut.
We just nope. Finally one day I had enough guts
to call on Strickler and tell her, tell him what happened.

(01:04:52):
But but my point to the whole story is that
it humbled me to know I don't know crap. That's
all it was was a humbling moment. And and it's
it's the one where you go, you need to be
open about everything, right, don't be close minded, because I

(01:05:13):
was a little bit before that that will be I'll
admit it to you. And so now I'm just like, Okay,
if that can exist, and that could do that, I
guess pretty much anything goes David. So all right, So
what other weird you know, strange stories that don't really
fit into any paradigm, that maybe kind of shocked you

(01:05:36):
a bit or stuck in your head. I hate to
catch you off guard too, like this.

Speaker 11 (01:05:40):
Oh no, it's Okay, so I had a I'm trying.
I think we should type about the gold miner it
saved his life. I think we tell you about the
fella came with his wife and kids. And I like
this because then I didn't talk to him.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
Over the film.

Speaker 11 (01:05:58):
These are the worst stories I've told you. The guy
will standing in front of me, and when somebody's telling
me a story, I'm looking at it. I'm looking where
their hands are at, I'm watching their feet, their shoes,
I'm watching who they're with, they're shuffler around, if they're laughing,
and you know, I'm looking for any sign where this
guy might be having fun with me. And I can
tell you right now it doesn't happen very often. So

(01:06:20):
and he catches me out a busy Saturday, and it
was like maybe a year after we opened it. We're busy.
We hadn't hired a lot of people yet. So my
wife and I were like, you know, we've got people
coming out when I talk as people going in, and
I have to do a little talk before I let
him in the museum. This guy towards museum, he's probably
about seventy with his wife. I assume his son, his

(01:06:41):
son's wife and three kids, little kids, all anywhere from
six to eight years old. So it's like seven or
seven of my guess too, amuseum. They come out, this
is are you the owner? And let My said, yeahs,
I want to tell you a story of something that
happened to me before I do. I said, okay. So

(01:07:02):
he was very somber, very very somber. So I kind
of blacked everything, and there's people were talking. I just
blocked it all out. I said, what happened? He says,
I used to live up here in an Lja. And
he says, when I was about seventeen, I had a van.
It was just it wasn't super customized, but it was.

(01:07:23):
It was a van. So this would have been in
the sixties, I guess seventies. I guess maybe sixties or seven.
And he said, I had this kid that lived down
the road for me on a farm, and it was
very it was very rural back then, and I didn't
know him very well, but I knew him in school.
And I had another buddy that I knew really well

(01:07:45):
in school, and these two sisters that one of them
I wanted to date. So we made a plane. We
were all going to take my van and go up
to Tolna Ridge and there's a big RV park up there. Now,
we got to drive off there with a little cooler
of beer and just watch the stars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
So it's him, these two sisters, his good friend, and
this kid he doesn't know very well, that lives on
a farm next farm over. But he'd know him very well.
He hadn't been there very long. So they're in the van.
They get up to the top. I don't remember if
it was dark. I'm assuming it was dark. And he said,

(01:08:22):
we just parked and we're talking, and he said, I
haven't even opened the cooler yet to get the first
beer out. And he says, I'm talking to the girl
in front next to me. She's sitting in the passenger seat,
the sister I want to date, the other girl sitting
behind her. And there's two benches on the side of
the hand at one in the back. He said, my
buddy's sitting. My buddy's sitting all the way to the back.

(01:08:44):
The other sister's sitting behind her sister, and this kid
I didn't know is sitting right behind me, facing the sister.
He says, me and this girl, we just got there.
We're just talking, and he says, all of a sudden,
she looks in the back and her eyes get this big,
and he starts to absolutely flip out, and he's like,
what in the world. So he glances behind his back

(01:09:07):
around his chair where his buddy is sitting, and I guess,
I guess there was enough light in the van to
see what was going on. Maybe it wasn't completely dark yet.
And he says, where this kid was sitting, there's this
giant hairy man doing this like he's got a shock
look on his face, like they can see me. The

(01:09:30):
kid's not there, this giant hairy man's there, okay, And
he says, oh my god. I didn't know what to think.
He said, all I knew is I'm getting the hack
out of my van. So see and his buddy in
the back, he's freaking out, and the girls sitt across there.
The whole van is freaking out. So this all happened
within seconds. He says, I reach for the door handle

(01:09:51):
to open up the door to bail out, and when
I do, my hand it indvertly turns on the knob
that flicks on the interior light. So now the van
is lit up. Oh no, he says, as just before,
as I'm bailing out, I take one more glance to
make sure that whatever this thing is isn't reaching for me.
And he says, where this thing was sitting, This kid's

(01:10:12):
sitting there now, but it's doing the same thing. Let's
look looking around, like, what's going on? What's going on?
And he said it was so this we all knew
what we saw. This kid wasn't there, and in his
place was this giant, hairy thing. Because there was so
much fun, because my brain was in shock, and neglected
to ask him if it was wearing the kid's clothes

(01:10:33):
or was it it was just covered in hair, So
I can't answer that. After he left, I wish i'd
answered that. I wish I had asked that, but I didn't.
He did gave me the two girls' names. They still
live here in town. His buddy's not around anymore. About
a week and a half, two weeks after this happened,

(01:10:54):
the kid and his family moved, packed up everything and left.
They were gone. The girls had to go to had
to go to a psychologist in Atlanta. He never saw
them for the rest of the year in school, and
when he did catch up to him. Found out that
their mother had to take them to a psychologist so
they could sleep because they were hysterical for days and
could not go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Wow. So so it poured it into the car? Is that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Like?

Speaker 11 (01:11:22):
Yeah? But if it poured it in the car, where
was the where's the kid?

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:11:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yeah, And now I keep.

Speaker 11 (01:11:28):
Reading all these and and all these stories I had
read in the past about bigfoots wearing clothes. Barton Untley
his mother saw a creature looking at the window and
it was wearing a blouse. I talked to Guy when
him and his buddy were driving back to bring his
brother his brother back to a base in California, and
they're driving through big cornfields and they could see this

(01:11:51):
thing running through the field and they're like, what the
hell is that thing? And it was running as fast
as the car is running, and as they could see,
they were gonna intersect on the and as this thing
came out of the corn field up, they were shocked.
It was a giant, hairy man wearing a pair of coveralls.
He said, this thing was so big that it hit

(01:12:11):
at the front of them. When it hit the side
of the car. It could have reached over and touched
me in the window. That's how big this thing was
wearing a pair of coveralls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
That's yeah weird. But then again, you think people do
put their clothes on clotheslines. It could, you know, see
people wearing.

Speaker 11 (01:12:26):
Them and going hey, yeah, I just found out that
there's that there are stories of them. I'm trying to
think what was it? Was it the Monroe how big camera.
There's a stories of a bigfoot in this one air
and I can't remember. I just came across it the
other day and they were wearing jeans. No, Dan, bigfoot
is gonna squeeze on a pair of jeans. Well, they

(01:12:48):
put on a shirt. Maybe I don't know, wrap up
in a blanket, but you hard, it's for us to
put a pair of jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
One.

Speaker 11 (01:12:56):
I have a story where the kid was going and
it was there. I'm like, oh my god, please, I
don't want to go here. I'm just a regular guy.
I have the same education you have. I'm just blessed
enough to be in a position where people bring me
all these stories that I take them in and I
don't have preconceived notions. I don't go odd because I

(01:13:19):
was raised this a way. I don't believe that. I
was raised to give everybody a chance to tell you
the truth. Also raised that if I see a rattle
snack on the rattlesnake on the trailer, I'm miking. I
just don't walk by it, even for the next guy
to come across. I either get the rattle snake off
the trail, or I wait for the next guy to
come up and I say, watch out, there's a rattlesnake
right there. Make sure you tell the next That's just

(01:13:42):
the way I was raised. That's why I tell these
stories because I don't want to write a book. I'm busy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Don't these things have a mental like a mental effect?
Does it ever make you?

Speaker 11 (01:13:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
For me, it makes me fearful of beyond. I'm just
being honest. It makes me fearful of walking in the
forest alone. Or when you've seen things that are so bizarre,
you're like, I tell people all the time on the show,
I'm afraid to take the garbage out on Wednesday night.
I'm not joking. I mean, I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:14:18):
People will step in front.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
But I've like my I do, but my head's on
a swivel.

Speaker 11 (01:14:23):
You have many flashlights I have by my door. I
ain't talk about them, little dicky ones. I got them
pistol ones. I got fired by the front door. Two
in the shed. But I never walk outside, and I
don't just walk out there like a big dummy. I'm
scanning rough because when you hear this stuff, you realize
what's you have a little bitter idea, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, if you don't blow it off and actually take
it in, You take it in and you digest it
and you go, holy crap. They were telling the truth,
and that means our world is full of things that
we don't under stand. It doesn't mean we can't. You
know what I don't like about the pure normal end

(01:15:06):
of it is it seems to I've had too many
friends or fellow researchers just completely stop researching, like they
give up because something's to a point we don't understand it.
I don't like to see that. I want to see
people stay curious and not give up, and not not say, well,

(01:15:29):
I'm not gonna hang camera traps or I'm not going
to try to fool them because they're aliens, are there?
I know? We just we still should try to get information.
I think obviously they're getting information on us, right, No,
why not try to get information on them? It isn't
gonna hurt, don't. I don't believe in harming anything, right,

(01:15:50):
I don't want to harm it, even just the smallest creature.

Speaker 11 (01:15:53):
I don't like to harm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
I don't want to harm anything. But I like to
learn about things. I don't think it hurts so bad
to pick a bug up and look at it and
let it go, or I can't. I even most almost
all the time I catch and release fish. I don't
want to harm them unless I'm really hungry and I'm
gonna eat them. Fine, Okay, that's life. But on the

(01:16:15):
same token, I just I don't see there's harm in
trying to if they are paranormal. But what I mean
by paranormal is is probably paranormal is sending you back,
David with an iPhone back one hundred years, you'd be paranormal.

Speaker 11 (01:16:31):
Right, that's it, absolutely right. It's just science. We don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
It's just science we don't get yet, right, So why
is it so? Then? Why do we have to judge
it so harshly? Then? I don't believe we should judge
it harshly because just because we don't get something. You know,
there's so many things we don't get. My God, we
don't even understand the damn forest yet. We have no

(01:16:57):
clue what goes on in a forest. So anyhow, I
wanted you to kind of get to know me. So
I'm not I'm not that I'm not judging. Some people
think I am because I work on legitimate science or No,
that's I just want answers, like everybody in our chat.
You know, Flat said it really good and I put
it up. No, it's like way back, like that comment

(01:17:20):
from Flat. He just said that. He just said, that's
why we're all here. We're trying to figure out the puzzle. Yeah,
and I am curious. And are you still do you
still have your thirst to learn?

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
David, I've got I've got camera traps set up up
on are was seen a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
It was good for you, good for you. Well, that's
that's why I do Tech Breakdown every week. I try
to throw new ideas to people and maybe it might
affect something in the future. Everything we do effects there,
and I believe in the butterfly effect. Everything we do
effects God knows it. Might affect the whole world. We

(01:18:00):
don't even know it. Just driving to the grocery store
one night might affect the entire world. It's crazy, all right.
So the nursing one I'm a little curious about. Let's
back up to the one that this, Uh was it
a woman or man saw the Bigfoot trying to nurse's baby?

Speaker 11 (01:18:18):
It was it was the baby's mother.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
It was a mother. So how did that story kind
of resolve itself? Did the bigfoot? Russell?

Speaker 11 (01:18:26):
As soon as she walked into the bedroom, it looked
at her, and she looked at it, and she realized
what she was doing. Right, she said, it dropped the
baby into the crib. Okay, left, it dove out the window. Wow,
That's why I'm assuming there was either no screens or
maybe if she she never did come in, but or
it just it pushed it the screen in and out

(01:18:47):
to get it out. I don't know for sure, but
it dove hit first off the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah, some already mentioned Overax mentioned. Could there be real
psycho semantic effects from researching Bigfoot? Absolutely? Absolutely absolutely, But
in my life it's mostly been positive. I think, I mean,

(01:19:11):
I feel like it's brought me together with a lot
of people I would have never met. That's made me
a lot of friends, a lot of camaraderie. I think
I know for a fact, even though I didn't know
it before, but now I know it now because those
kids that watch Monster Quest and Legitimed Science have grown

(01:19:31):
up to call me and say, you know, I got
my degree in science because of the Year program. And
I hear that over and over. It was funny. I
was interviewing a guy who was helping us light our
the entire Freeman site for legitimate science and a big
light art machine on a basic giant drone and we

(01:19:54):
light our the entire forest and all around, and there
was a Sciences there to observe this measurement stuff going on.
And I've interviewed him and on camera and asked him
how he got interested in this topic or why is
he here because he had so many degrees, and he goes, oh,

(01:20:15):
because of legitiment science. And it's just like, wow, that's
so cool. So this topic gets kids like interested in
the world in science. So I think it's just that
alone is worth it, you know, tell those wholesome stories
around the campfire. Yeah, there's a little fear in it,

(01:20:37):
But that wholesome fear stimulates curiosity, I think I agree
with Yeah, Oh my god, that story that he was
told with the nursing thing is just freaking me out.
I'm literally freaked out. I'm picturing that going what in
the world, because you know how protective you'd be of

(01:20:59):
your own child. Yeah, that must have been a scary,
scary moment. But yet the bigfoot didn't hurt the baby.

Speaker 11 (01:21:08):
No, And it applies a very strong biological connection between
the holes because you don't hear about it raccoon coming
and trying to nurse a human baby, even though there's
stories of wolves, I guess nursing human children. But this
thing came in the window and felt a strong connection
to a human human child. And I hear that a lot, right.

(01:21:32):
You hear stories of these things carrying what looks like
a human kid, or walking with a little walking with
a kid like the kid is a wild kid with them,
and I hear their stories. So when I hear these stories,
I asked, what, what are the implications of that? So
I kind of I try to make some connections. I
don't make too many connections until I hear the other one.

(01:21:53):
The other one, so then you see a pattern, it's
a little easier to make the connections.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
But well, let's Jill, let's jump right to and I
don't mean to put you on the spot. And I'm
sure you have all sorts of theories, but what is
your strongest theory as to one? What is their environmental benefit?
There's usually every creature seems to you know, especially animals.
You know, we humans don't, but animals will benefit the forest.

(01:22:19):
They do things that help things. Every little creature helps
the forest. So that's one part of the question. But
what do you think these things are? What's their purpose?

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
Well, I can tell you I don't know what their
purpose is. I don't even care to try. I have
no idea what the purpose is. They're not running the
show they are. They are the surf of somebody else.
There's a third between them and us. There's a third

(01:22:51):
unseen entities that are controlling them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Do you think, so, okay, somebody else, Okay, that's a
that's a great theory.

Speaker 11 (01:23:00):
So so my research, I'm not so much interested in
all the footprints and all that anymore. I wanted. I'm
trying to get the patterns as to what they're seen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
With you're trying to see the forest instead of the
trees exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:23:16):
Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind that they have
a connection here on Earth because they drink our water,
they eat the row kill, they eat the animals, they
eat the plant. They can't even go to Mexico and
drink the water without getting sick, let alone another planet.
So they have a strong connection here. But somebody else
is helping them. Somebody else is lay the ground rules

(01:23:40):
down for these animals. And I don't think they're here
all the time. I think they can come and go.
I don't know if they control they come and go,
or if somebody else controls that. I don't know. They've
never been as far as I know. I've never heard
a story where they operate any machinery other than holding
an orb in their hand. I've heard stories of that,

(01:24:02):
but I'm not aware of them wearing like a belt
or using any kind of alien technology.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:24:08):
Well, they're almost like the lap dog of somebody else,
And there's somebody else's who I'm looking for. I've've already
found big Foot. I had a beat down my wall
when I lived on an Apple worsher I've seen two
skunk capes in Florida. You have anything anybody anymore that
they're real trying to find their bosses.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Well, i've had sightings too, thank god, both with the
vet or actually three of them now. But it's part
of it, Oh God. So you're looking at the big
picture and you think they're maybe being controlled by some

(01:24:49):
other entity. But while they're here, they seem so restrained.
You know, you know what I mean by restrained. They'll
do they'll pound on your wall, all they'll do things.
They might break into an empty gabin, but they don't
really I mean, I'm not aware of any stories of
personal people and they've been hurt or hitting the headle

(01:25:10):
of the rock or and I've had rocks right by
me and they just always seem to miss right.

Speaker 11 (01:25:18):
Lots of stories of of of I talked to guy
in Florida who had one standing in front. He was
checking his hog trap, and it was it was walking
paralleling it, and he turned around the corner was standing
right in front of it, right in front of him,
and he said, and I've heard this over and over again.
It was screaming at me. And he said, I could
tell this thing wanted to kill me. Wow, it couldn't

(01:25:42):
and and and when you hear these stories over again,
it didn't come in the house. It could have come.
It straddles the door, but it didn't come in the house.
They have rules they have to follow, and some of
them don't like us, and some of them don't like
us a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Is there is there? Maybe I don't mean to interrupt,
but is there maybe a religious aspect to your thoughts?
You know, there's this story somebody just had mentioned the
nephil in some of these bbical stories. Is there any
possibility there that you.

Speaker 11 (01:26:15):
Think, Yeah, absolutely, there's absolutely a possibility that that that
have something to do with the Nephila or they are
the Nephilon. I don't know for sure yet. My wife,
God bless her, she's very much more into the religious
part of the spirituality. I'm more into the spirituality. I

(01:26:36):
don't attend church, even though was raised a Catholic, and
I pray every single day, and I thank God for
my for all the blessings of my family and my grandkids.
But I don't attend church. But yeah, so, I'm very
familiar with the stories of the nephilom Enoch, the story
of Enoch and Anki and Sumerian texts. So yeah, there's

(01:27:01):
no doubt they've been here a long time and a
long time probably.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, And I tend to think that do you think
there's more than one type or do you think they're
all the same.

Speaker 11 (01:27:16):
Oh, there's definitely more than one type.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Okay. Do you want to expound on that a little bit, David, So.

Speaker 11 (01:27:23):
I'm sure you've heard John Carlson and Adam Davies story.
It's twenty sixteen so hot incident. Yeah, and they were
only about this tall, they were like a half four
feet tall. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Do you want to just relate that kind of do
a log line on that story? Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:27:39):
Yeah, So, and that was I was gobsmacked. And and
also when I got to the first time, I got
a chance to say because if you know, if.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
You know Adam, Adam is like his is a nobs guy.
I mean, he's he's not gonna.

Speaker 11 (01:27:52):
Lie there there at the Southern Oregon situation area. It's
been corrupted since then, so he can't go back there anymore. Yeah,
with John Carlson and John John Carson, Adam Davies are
there with Matt Johnson, and there was getting late and
Matt Johnson went back to his tent and these two
guys they weren't allowed to have flashlights. I think Matt

(01:28:16):
Johnson had some really strong ground roles and I think, oh,
I think what I'm Adam was smoking, so you had
to get away from him to have a cigarette. And
while they're over there talking away from the campfire, they
see a light appear at the only entrance to come
into this little area. It's not even a campground, it's
just an area or its flattened area. There's only one
way in and one way out. And there's just a light.

(01:28:37):
It's not a headlight. There's no sound, and it's right,
I don't know, fifty feet sixty feet from them, and
this light opens up like this, and they're both looking
at they're looking at it one another like what in
the world. Now, these guys are portal people. They're just
looking for Bigfoot with Matt Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
No Adams, the opposite of that, right, And.

Speaker 11 (01:28:58):
As this thing opens up, they can actually see a
red sky on the other side of this red thing
of this. Now this appears to be for no other
there's no better word than a portal. And out jumped
these two little Harry beings with shiny white teeth and
super red eyes, and they charge at these guys and

(01:29:20):
they have no weapons and they're watching these things run
across the gravel to them, and all he had was
a flashlight, john and he hit him with the flashlight,
hoping he could see him better. And as soon as
the flashlight hit the scene, the whole thing just faded away.
And they're sitting there talking to Call and Matt Johnson over.
Matt comes over, they tell him what happens is Matt says,
I'm just going to go to bed, which I thought

(01:29:41):
it was really weird that that he wasn't like, I'm
gonna partake of what was going on. So he goes
back to bed, and the whole scene happens again. The
portal opens up, they watch it again. These two beings
come out and they charge him and as soon as
they hit it with that flashlight, that's very interesting, it
goes away. It happened three times that it just kept

(01:30:03):
replaying itself over and over, and every time you hit
him with that wavelength of that flashlight, the whole thing dissipated.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
That's weird, and my jaw hit the floor. I had
to call Adam personally and him tell me that story.
I just called him. I said, Adam, okay, tell me everything.
And my son Blade was with me and we listened,
and Adam is just like he goes. I didn't believe
in any of this.

Speaker 11 (01:30:26):
I'm just telling you what I saw, right, you know, right,
And I I'm so glad he told us.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah. I took guts for him to come forward.

Speaker 11 (01:30:36):
Yeah, did, and he didn't want to. And John I
spoke as John Carlson about it as well. They of
course corroperaty each other the stories because they weren't like
they were right next to each other. And it's funny
when I was at a Georgia Bigfoot conference this is
along the same lines over in Delanaga in twenty twelve,
I think twenty twelve, twenty eleven, I don't remember. When

(01:30:58):
I got to meet John Moore ahead and and a
couple of other really super researchers. My god, it was amazing. Anyways,
I look over and there's Matt Johnson. You can't miss Matt.
He's like what, he's six' ten or, something big. Dude
AND i happened to know the Researcher Scott taylor In

(01:31:18):
washington that took the. Report SO i Texted, SCOTT i,
said you ever get to? Believed this Is Matt johnson sitting?
Right and ALL i knew was From Matt johnson's story
was the story that he told the. MEDIA i just watched,
that you.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
KNOW i.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):
SAW i was walking with my family In Oregon k's
AND i went up the hill to go pee real,
quick and THEN i see this thing walk between one
tree and the, other AND i freaked, out went, back we.
Left that's the STORY i. Heard SO i Texted Matt Scott,
tayley the original, investigator super nice.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Guy did those guys have a? Therm who have a?

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Therm?

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Adam When adam.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
Was at THAT.

Speaker 11 (01:31:57):
I DON'T i don't know if he had a, therm
don't think, SO i don't. Know but so So scott,
says and he, says ask him what really? HAPPENED i,
said what do you? Mean he, said, yeah Ask scott,
asked Got Matt. Johnson Doctor johnson asked him what really?
HAPPENED i was, like, wow that's kind of. Weird SO
i got my wife sitting next to. Me Matt johnson's

(01:32:18):
over there with his wife and we have a BREAK
i go over, here produce, myself Ham. Dave i'm be
a firm investigator here For. Georgia so you, Know i'm
talking to, Him, scott he, said you ask what really? Happened?
Now at this, TIME i had no no interaction with
any of these strange things that were going. On and
he looks at, me dead in the eye and he

(01:32:40):
starts to tear. Up i'm, like, okay what's going on?
Here and his wife hears me asking, her and she
starts to rub his back and he looks off like
he's like he he looks off like he doesn't really
want to tell. Me BUT i think the fact That
Scott TAYLOR i didn't just ask him. Out scott, said

(01:33:01):
for you get, that for me to ask you that,
questions he got the, Okay so he tells me the
story where he goes up the. Hill this is what
started the whole thing for. Him and he's using he's
using the he's just peeing on a tree or something
and he looks he sees moving out of his. Eye
he looks at a tree and he sees like the,
reflection you, know like a mirage on a hot. Road

(01:33:24):
he sees, this there's nothing there but all of a,
sudden there's this mirage like heat rising from the road
and there is standing there's squatting down a bigfoot looking
at his, family and it doesn't See, scott it doesn't
See Matt, johnson and he sees this. Thing he, says
you don't. UNDERSTAND i used to teach people that said
they Saw i'm not a bigfoot.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Guy at the.

Speaker 11 (01:33:44):
TIME i used to laugh at people that said they saw.
Bigfoot WHEN i see this, THING i go like, THAT
i can't, help BUT i have this involuntary inh elation
What i'm shocked at WHAT i. See and it turns
and looks at, me and now we're looking at each,
other and he, says it look. Me it turns back
to my family and here's this mirage thing, again and it's,

(01:34:05):
Gone it, disappears it, cloaks whatever you want to call. It,
yeah that's the first TIME i heard, that and the
impact was profound on me because now he's he's full crying,
man he's, panicking and his wife is trying to control.
Himself he's a big, dude and his wife's rub at
his back And i'm, like, man de, man we know

(01:34:25):
when somebody's bs and, us and, man we know when
somebody's telling us the. Truth you get to a certain
age when you can smell bs bs. Me and this
is in broad. Daylight this wasn't one hundred yards across
the end of a, field or this was a story
somebody told. Him this happened right in front of. Him
so When Matt johnson Took Adam davies And John carlson

(01:34:46):
to his special, spot that had more weight on me
BECAUSE i already knew That Matt johnson had real encounter
with something that we cannot. Explain and all these things
THAT i hear and go on and on, about these
all these crazy story reason that the fact is that
the reason that the most hardcore scientists will refuse to

(01:35:07):
look at this thing BECAUSE i promise you one that
whatever the truth, is it is gonna sound like science.
Fiction it's gonna be so far out of our. Wheelhouse
it'll have no resemblance to anything we were taught to
biology class or anything like. THAT i promise you that if,
we if we ever live a long enough forget the,

(01:35:29):
truth it's gonna sound absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Insane well what's cool is, finally And i'm getting, old
But i'm finally seeing the, future you know WHAT i,
mean robots are COMING ai. FINALLY i, mean there's really
been no change my whole. Life not. Much, YEAH i had,
cars AND i was, more and they had tea color
TVs and and you know. Whatever but NOW i, think

(01:35:54):
and we've got government employees coming forward saying a lot
of weird, things and AND i Have congress people coming
forward saying weird. Things so we're almost like in a new.
Era AND i hope we live long enough to see
maybe get some at least clues that, answers you, know

(01:36:15):
to things like you, know what in the world Did adam.
See i've heard the portal story at least ten times
from different, witnesses and especially when you have two witnesses
and you hear the same damn, story it's got a
lot of. Weight you, know two guys sitting on a
deer stand and they see a portal open up and

(01:36:36):
they see a creature step. Out, well that's kind of
powerful when you know them both and you, Know Dann,
wild they're not lying to.

Speaker 11 (01:36:43):
You And cole mckeelor wrote that about his book in
the Skin Will hunt For Skinwalker, ranch where the two,
investigators one with some kind of very sensitive camera in one.
Way we're looking down the hill and saw that thing
open up and out crawl this humanoid through through a

(01:37:07):
suspended cave or not a, cave but it's suspended like a.
Wormhole and it lumbers out with his elbows and steps
out into the, field lumbers off there and they're, Like
i'm not staying. Here this thing's out here, somewhere and uh,
so there's there's other stories of. This have you ever
heard the story of the portal? STORY i call it

(01:37:29):
a portal? Story but what was his? Name he was
hiking The Pacific Coast. Trail Larry. Kalma that's his, Name Larry.
Kalm if you get a, chance google The Larry, Kalma
bigfoot And Larry calm.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Encounter how do you how do you spell his last?
Name kay is And.

Speaker 11 (01:37:48):
KAREN e L m L M Larry. Kalma sharon eb
took the report and A B fro expedition with her
husband at the, time and this guy that was on
the expedition told him the. Story they were they'd never
heard anything like it, before but they were good enough
to write it down AND i think he even signed,

(01:38:10):
it even signed IT i don't know Where Larry kalm
is at. NOW i don't know if he's still with
us or. Not but he had he was just hiking
on The pacific just that was a beautiful sunny. Day
and as he's as he's walking down this, trail all
of a, sudden the sounds sound a little, different and
he feels like a pressure change in his head and

(01:38:30):
he takes a step and then he can he feels the.
Pressure he's he's momentum because you, hike so it wasn't
like just walking real. Slowly and he took another, step
and then the plants are on him started to look
differently and it went from a cool day to a
very warm it got very warm and human immediately on
the next, step and he took another, step and that's

(01:38:54):
when he realized that he was not on the trail.
Anymore he was in some kind of a, jungle some
kind of other, place and he got this overwhelming fear
of dread hit him like a ton of, bricks and
he didn't take another. Step he immediately started going, back
and he, SAYS i AS i started stepping, BACK i

(01:39:14):
saw this hand just miss, me this big. Hand AND
i think he said it was a really white hand
with white hair on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
It.

Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
Wow and as he's backing, up it just grazed his
cheek and he heard in his. Head as he was going,
backwards he heard this in his, head. Gotcha that's when
he'd heard his, head. Gotcha and he took a step
back and the pressure started to. Relieve he took another step,
back and as he stepped he took a third step,
back he could see what he walked. Into here was

(01:39:45):
this shivering. Patch he didn't see it walking, In and
that's why he thinks something laid a trap for, him
because he didn't see it walking. In he only saw
it when he was coming. Backwards so somehow this, thing
somebody needed to put this thing right in front of
it the exact, time so you could not see it
as he stepped. Into but if he came, back as
he came back a couple more, steps he could see

(01:40:06):
the shimmering patch right above the. Trail and he took
off and. RAN i, think he, said If i'm trying
to remember the, STORY i think he hiked like a
day and a half to get to that, point and
he was back to his truck in like four hours or.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Something do you, think do you think this is kind
of the answer to all these missing people where They
Because i've heard some survivors where they claim they're on
a trail and all of a sudden they don't recognize,
anything and they and the smart ones have stayed. Put they're,
like just stay in this, spot don't, leave even though

(01:40:43):
they didn't recognize, anything and they found themselves off the.
Trail that old thing is crazy, Too AND i Know
bigfoot's get blamed for, that which it could be. True
but on the same, TOKEN i, mean there could be
so many things that are taking. People could be, aliens
that could Be, bigfoots could be just time warped. Glitches

(01:41:06):
that story you just told is beyond.

Speaker 11 (01:41:09):
Creepy like we tend to want to make it one.
Thing we tend because we're, humans we kind of we
want to make it. Simple but in, FACT i, think
what's going on, here there's a multitude of phenomenons that
are they are happening around us all the, time, Right
and if you open one of, these if you open
a museum where you live.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
At you In, Missouri i'm In, Minnesota i'm.

Speaker 11 (01:41:31):
Sorry if you opened up one in a rural area In.
Minnesota you'd be flooded with these kind of you be
flooded with.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Reports can imagine that's probably what we're gonna end up, doing, Right, Jeff,
Jeff Just jeff just sold his business and he's looking
for a whole new. Life.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Ter, Yeah I'm i'm unemployed and kind of open to
do just about. Anything so it's.

Speaker 11 (01:41:56):
Amazing i'm. Blessed i'm blessed because something some some THINGS
i wasn't aware of as a younger. Man i'm aware
of them now and it's really expanded in my brain a.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Lot and.

Speaker 11 (01:42:10):
AND i know what's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Important you, know, well you don't have, well you don't
have to. WORK i, mean every day for you is
just like it's. You it's So and that's kind of
WHAT i do. TOO i just do WHAT i love
AND i don't go to. WORK i work so many,
hours but it doesn't seem like work to. ME i
look forward to. IT i get excited about.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
It there you, Go.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Jeff, THERE i tell you The Minnesota Bigfoot, museum good.
Happen i'll get you. STARTED i got a big COLLECTION
i can donate right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
HERE i have a pretty good Idea i'm thinking about.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
All, right stuff stop thinking about. It, okay all, Right
i'm Gonna i'm gonna throw some words at, you you
in some phrases and just kind of tell me anything
there you want to talk. About, Okay. Okay if there's,
not just we'll just move. On do you think there's
more interest now in The bigfoot mystery than? Ever think

(01:43:15):
gets like? Grown how many? Percent if it? All what
do you? Think?

Speaker 11 (01:43:20):
Oh, Absolutely, yeah there's a. Way AND i, think AND
i have to give credit where crit is. DUE i
think The Finding bigfoot crew really propelled this into the. Mainstream,
yeah and then so many good. Documentaries Seth Breed love
is making a lot of the Small Town masso's. Documentaries
AND i think what's important is that there's witnesses On
they're not just telling, stories but witnesses. Themselves that's of

(01:43:43):
course the best part of any. Show and that gives
people when they see people ON tv telling, stories it gives,
people you, know the courage to tell their. Stories. Right
SO i think with the advent of so many amazing
documentaries And Answer quest of, course holy, cow that was
a Huge i've never missed episode of. That, yeah AND

(01:44:05):
i think people have the courage to finally come out
and tell their. Stories, so, yeah there's way more interest
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Now do you think when you say way, more do
you think it's doubled from ten years, ago twenty years?

Speaker 11 (01:44:16):
AGO i think, quadruples.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Quadruple, okay.

Speaker 11 (01:44:21):
We just don't Get we just hardly get any non.
Believers everybody that comes to the. Museum it just seems
like everybody has an open, mind or at least most
of the people in the, group because we just don't have.
Anything there's nobody wants to throw around a whole lot
of Wild it's proved this to, me it just doesn't.
Happen like, ever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
How about percentage of reports that make it to the.
Public what do you think the percentage of?

Speaker 11 (01:44:43):
Reports what a profound question that is in, Ways, SO
i have two. Newspapers i've got one IN lja and
one In Blue, ridge AND i post on Our facebook
page about local reports up here all the. Time walking
right down five point, fifteen the guy hit the brakes

(01:45:03):
and locked up his brakes right next to. It up.
Up lady IN lj that saw one sets standing outside
of the window early in the morning looking in the
window at, her and she just stared at. It looked
like a little ape. MAN i can't tell how many
Stories i've posted from up here in The Blue. Ridge
the police officers have been. HERE i have to be
kind of quiet. About let's just Say i've had a
lot of police officers come and tell me their stories

(01:45:25):
from this. Area not one time as any of these
newspapers ever contacted me in eight. Years, hey can you
tell ME i heard? You you're taking some local not.
Once they've never contacted. Me and people come to the
museum of how come we never hear about? That and,
well you're gonna have to ask your newspapers why they
don't find this newsworthy BECAUSE i post them out there

(01:45:47):
and the people in the LOCAL i love, posting and
the people share them in the Local facebook. Page the
newspaper never never contacted. Me they either find it not.
NEWSWORTHY i don't know what the problem, is so. Uh
And i've taken an amazing amount of. Reports WHEN i
was with THE. Bfrl the first couple of REPORTS i,

(01:46:08):
took they refused to publish, them AND i left town
with my. Wife we went and got a hotel To
realm AND i sat with a costing. Me And i'm not,
complaining BUT i put my, PERSON i put my, word left,
town got a hotel for two days to meet with the,
witness to go to the place where it. Happened and
if there's any elements of unusual things in, there they

(01:46:32):
would either wouldn't publish him or they made me take them.
Out AND i, go, well why wouldn't be much of
an investigator IF i was just taking stuff up because
you didn't like? It why want to do? That, yeah
what's my point of doing? This and after like round
five of, THAT i just finally, said what's? This and
THEN i found other investigators it's the same. Thing they
get a dog man's. Story we're not publishing. That but you,

(01:46:53):
KNOW i met the people that saw. It it was
brought now its. Hallucination so you become you were kind
of you be come to realize that a lot of
good information is being rough hell for the public for
a myriad of.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Reasons, interesting, okay interesting. Comment we're gonna address. This, Says,
honestly anybody making documentaries About bigfoot is full of. CRAP
i can't think of one person that's genuine besides the
camping And sasquatch. Channel and of COURSE i take issue with.

(01:47:28):
That because in a documentary covers so much, info, eyewitnesses. Science,
yeah it could be, wrong but it's at least we're.
Trying So i'd love to see Stone picker makes his
own try to make one.

Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
Better i've never heard of camping with, sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
No, Exactly SO i don't. KNOW i JUST i love
comments like. That they're just so. BROAD i don't mind hearing.
Them but that's it just seems like a very strange
added you to have. Strange strange strange because boys insulting
a lot of, people including all the witnesses that are

(01:48:09):
in the. Docks, YEAH i think. So. Documentaries, okay hold on,
here documentaries never get it right because their goal is
to make. Money. Wrong they're, Here Stone picker here buying
to this. One AND i did legeni in science AND
i was in debt for almost twenty eight years on

(01:48:31):
that and just recently broke. Even oh, YEAH i did
it to make. Money you can Ask matt. Moneymaker we
did that because we wanted information, outright, period end of.

Speaker 5 (01:48:42):
Story everybody does everything to make, money you know WHAT i?
Mean like that's even that isn't wrong to make a.
Living that's what's. Corrupt you of making. Money you got
to make a. LIVING i just don't see that as.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Everything is museums face because he, charges, uh you, know
an admission to get into this. Museum he's got electrical, bills, church.

Speaker 5 (01:49:08):
You got seven, employees you got to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Him and when you make a, documentary obviously you're coming
from a very very ignorant. Stance AND i remember WHEN
i wanted to Have discovery pay for all of the legitimate.
Science they only gave me half the money that we,
needed SO i had to finance the. Rest AND i, thought,
well we'll get paid hopefully with a year or, two

(01:49:32):
and it, didn't AND i just had to carry that
debt for almost twenty some years. Now when my boys
called me and, said, hey we finally broke, Even i'm, like, okay,
YEAH i did it for the, money, right and, yeah
it's just not. True it's not. TRUE i WISH i
do this. PODCAST i don't make a. Penny i've never

(01:49:53):
taken one penny from podcast in two hundred and fifty
episodes and spend twelve hours a week, now one penny
HAVE i personally ever. Taken i'm not doing it for the.
Money i'm doing it Because i'm here to. Learn i'm
here to share What i've. Learned i'm here to gather.
Information that's. It so you could say that about. Anything

(01:50:14):
SO i, disagree, respectfully very. Respectfully would love to have
you in the, audience trust. Me, YEAH i love having you.
Here But i'd love to talk to you on the
phone for about three. Hours i'll straighten you right up
about making money in This oh, god it's. Funny, yeah. Okay.

(01:50:39):
Uh North, Georgia North georgia sasquatch. Activity why Is North
georgia so active and not maybe the mid part or
what are your theories on? That if these things, are you,
know like even be in, control why do they need
a certain? Environment that's, fascinating isn't.

Speaker 11 (01:51:02):
It it just seems Like North georgia is more active
because there's people that live out here that are. Researchers
there's more. Researchers it's the same In. TENNESSEE i go
To kentucky to visit my. Sisters they see my. CAR
i stop at the gastation of puplic, car my truck
with the. Emblema, hey they want to tell me about
their dog, manage bent foot the side of. It there's
nothing special it's the same thing in Rural, tennessee Rural, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississipi, Mississippi.

(01:51:29):
LOUIS i take stories from all over the. Country there's
nothing special About North. GEORGIA i think it's maybe because
the museums here AND i get a lot of stories
that people will. Drive they're not too far from, here
so it just seems like. It but it's because most
of the stories they get are from my. Area it's
gonna be the same thing In tennessee And, kentucky maybe

(01:51:51):
even more. So that's WHY i say there's way more
sightings out, there and you can wrap your brain. Around
but people either don't know where to, go or they
told their wife or their brother and they laughed at
them so they shut up about, it, right or they
don't want to lose their job they have an important.
Job i've talked to people like that as, well and

(01:52:13):
have an IMPORTANT jobb will tell me the, story AND
i can't even share that those stories with, anybody including
lots of police. OFFICERS i can't can't tell the story
Because i'll tell you where't. Happened and when you're too
general about, it it loses its. Validity do you have
to be real general about. It so it just it
just better how to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
It AND i know you've got opinions on like possible,
migration AND i would, imagine if you know every animal
has to follow food, SERVICES i would imagine they eat
and then weather it is kind of an important. ROLE
i would think that affects food. Supply what are your

(01:52:55):
thoughts just on the whole the whole gamut of, migration
Because i've thought about it And i'm, like, well out,
west in Like British, columbia they don't really need To
they could just go down to the, ocean you, know
maybe fifty miles and then go up to the high
peaks in the, summer and then of Course minnesota we

(01:53:15):
get forty below.

Speaker 11 (01:53:16):
Weather, interesting what are they doing up? There what are
they exactly primates doing way up in the snow? Belt
the last. Copy if they don't have hunts and they
don't build a, fire how are they making it up?
There i'm not so sure about this. MIGRATION i used
to think that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Too WHEN i was In.

Speaker 11 (01:53:33):
FLORIDA i would go On google AND i would get
topographical maps AND i would find the greenways were to
get from here to, here this all. City but here's
a GREAT i would set cameras up across that greenway
if anything was passing through. There, AGAIN i never got.
ANYTHING i live twenty minutes from some of the state's

(01:53:55):
biggest apple. Orchards nobody calls me from an apple orchard
tell me they have a bigfoot stealing their. Apples people
have gardens all over. Here not one person that's ever
called me said they found a big. Foot they saw
because it was in their garden. EATING i have a garden.
HERE i don't get any call from many said they
were taking their fruit, off their fruit. Cheese nobody said
they were it was stealing stuff out of their. Garden,

(01:54:17):
so AND i know they eat the food, here don't
get me. WRONG i know they eat road, kill they
chase deer down to eat. PIGS i know all that
they'll take farm. Animals and we know they need a
lot of. FOOD i, mean especially when they travel in small.
Groups if there's three or four of you can imagine
how much food they need to. Consume and funny that
flix food in the wild has got to be, difficult very.

(01:54:39):
Difficult so why aren't they raiding more? Gardens why aren't
they Picking why don't people catch them on their these
orchards call me because they're stealing all their? APPLES i, mean, So.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
I'm not so.

Speaker 11 (01:54:51):
Sure do they snack while they're? HERE i think that's
all they're really doing is the short time they're, here
they're looking for a. Snack but they noticed stay away from.
Gardens they know not to be observed from people's. Houses
even though it happens on. Occasion you, know we should
have we should have. More BUT i should get a
lot more of reports of them stealing stuff out of
the garden or out the front, yard picking the. TREES

(01:55:13):
i know it does.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Happen do you get more reports In georgia certain times of?
Years a pretty much stable all? Year what's that? Is?
Uh do you get more reports like a certain time
of year In georgia or is it just kind of
the same.

Speaker 11 (01:55:28):
YEAR i, TRIED i try to make a. PATTERN i
try to, say, well they maybe they're up here during
the apple. Season now they're here in the. Summer you're
here in the summer when when the gardens apples aren't ready, yet.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
We have peached here.

Speaker 11 (01:55:42):
TOO i go to THESE i go to these uh
orchids all the, time AND i kind of kick it with.
PEOPLE i got my shirt. On not one person the.
Time is anybody ever say?

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
Hate come.

Speaker 11 (01:55:52):
HERE i want to tell you a story my dad.
Was NOW i did HAVE i took a story from
a guy who was a citrius inspector or, sorry citrus
inspector from the state Of. Florida and he Saw. Bigfoot
never gave him a, thought but he Saw bigfoot darting
from tree to tree in an app and a orange
orchard down In. Florida AND i didn't get that. Pressure

(01:56:15):
he was picking. APPLES i think it was passing or not,
apples but. Oranges so it was in an, orchard but
he didn't tell me it was like taking a lot of.
Oranges it wasn't picking oranges or anything like. That so
to be, FAIR i did see one report from an orange.
ORCHARD i don't get. Anything they're not they're not people's.
Gardens they're not stealing stuff off the. TREE i haven't got.

(01:56:36):
Any AND i have a thousand reports. Here i've got
him stacked. UP i have so many reports. THERE I
i pick up my. Computer oh there's three, there go
to the. Museum there's four of my. Box every. Day
this is every day, nothing nothing from, gardens nothing from,
orchards pretty, well stealing pies off their. Porch it's just

(01:56:56):
it's like there they need a lot of, food But
i'll be damned IF i know where they're getting all of.
It and they're not getting it from bark and. Roots
that's just that's way too much for these. Creatures and
they're not way out and they're. Remote they're outside Of,
atlanta they're outside Of Blue.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Ridge, yeah they seem to they seem to come into
the edges quite. OFTEN i mean the edges are kind
of where. Close, yeah it's definitely where it's. At in,
FACT i think that's you, know where most of the animals.
Are they're near the edges of the farms the. Suburbs,

(01:57:34):
well WHEN i go out into the wilderness wilderness by flow,
plane get dropped. Off we don't see, animals we don't see,
birds we don't see anything because there's no. Edges it's just.
Forced they're just it's. Weird it's kind of it made me,
think you, know we'll go ten days and only see one,

(01:57:54):
seagull and people will think ABOUT i could take a
bike ride here and see a flock of Wild turkey's
fox tons of, rabbits tons of, deer you know WHAT i.
Mean but you go in the middle of the, forest
you're not gonna see, anything, Right so it's kind of
a fascinating thought that most people don't think. About just

(01:58:18):
a monotonous, forest don't necessarily have a lot of animals in.

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
It, well it's just so, big and until you've been out, there,
yeah it's hard to. Understand and until you've been, There,
yeah it's so. Different it's just, yeah it's just, nothing nothing.
Else it's like nothing else in the. World that's why
people get addicted to, it because it's such a special
thing that you can't experience in the. Town you just.
Can't all, Right i'm moving on.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Here let's see here we talked about kind of what
you think their, Purposes BUT i don't THINK i got
an answer from, You. David what do you think to
maybe their?

Speaker 11 (01:58:56):
Purposes their purpose here is whatever their boss tells.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Me, okay that's that's as good as answer as.

Speaker 11 (01:59:03):
Any boss doesn't share that with, us, GOTCHA i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
Know, uh it's fascinating.

Speaker 11 (01:59:08):
Whatever whatever their boss tells. Them pose.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
What are your thoughts about orbs and? Bigfoot we were
up to Snow grove last, summer and we had we
had some bigfoot activity but not, much but we everybody
saw red orbs except. Me everybody did like they were
zipping all over in front of the windows and, out you,

(01:59:36):
KNOW i mean nice you, know good sized orbs close to.
People AND i don't, know is there a, connection do you?

Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
Think?

Speaker 11 (01:59:43):
Oh absolutely You i've never seen, one BUT i know
a lot of people that have seen. Them and the
stories of these orbs go back a long. Time they're
floating at their white red ones and blue ones and
green ones and white, ones and might BE i know
If i've ever heard a yell at, ONCE i THOUGHT
i thought it was interesting WHEN i heard the story

(02:00:03):
THAT i CAN'T i can't recall where and when it,
happened but at bigfoot walking through the woods holding one
of these. Orbs AND i just heard a story that
happened up In North carolina at the what was it the,
forest not THE i can't remember the name Of it's
it's a famous this Where john this wore, Green Mike

(02:00:24):
green got his thermal. Foot it's a squeaky and that
forest up, there and they were camping up, there and
that they had two orbs above their, head and the
father was looking at and he could see faces in the,
orbs looking down at, them embedded into. Orbs there's like
a face face in. There SO i don't know what it.
Is that's WHY i, say whatever the truth to, this

(02:00:44):
there's this there's a connection Between bigfoot and these. Orbs
that's WHY i, say whatever it, is it's huge that
whatever the answer to, this these phenomenons and they're all
part of they all have tendrils that go back to
the same. Source whether it's AND i know this is
a sounds, strange whether it's The lochness monster or lake
monsters that are all over the world and landlocked, lakes

(02:01:06):
some of which freeze over and we can't find any
of those in the lakes all over the. Place and
Dog man And bigfoot and UFOs and, orbs these all
have tendrils that lead back to that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Source, yeah because, yeah we're talking About, bigfoot but there's
a lot of byewitnesses it's the dog, men mothman or
some kind of wing. Creature and then of course guy
PARDON i know.

Speaker 11 (02:01:36):
A guy that saw him off. Man, yeah you do, know,
yep you do. Know these beings are CONNECTED i don't
know how they're. Connected this this brain and all its.
LIMITATIONS i CAN i can only take so, much believe
it or. NOT i think the more educated you, are honestly,
EDUCATED i mean formally. Educated, yeah YOU'RE i think it's

(02:01:57):
even harder for you because you keep one of fault
back to a repetition of what you taught at. School
you want to go back to that because it's more.
Comfortable but Since i've never had any of that kind
of super intense scientific, education my mind is wide. Open
SO i take in what people tell. ME i don't
make stuff. UP i don't dream things. UP i don't

(02:02:21):
have a third eye. ORYTHING i just listen to what
people tell, me and, uh there's no doubt in my.
MIND i take them all that these things there's a
source controlling all these, things.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
And we're not in that club kind of The Jacques
valet yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:02:37):
Theory, yeah whatever whatever it, is we're not supposed to
know about.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
It, yeah is? It BUT i like that once in a,
while it's, Me. DAVID i think maybe they're just we're being.

Speaker 11 (02:02:48):
Entertained that's, Possible, yeah that could.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Interesting it's like it's just an entertainment for. Us and
that would be sad to find, out wouldn't. It, yep it's, like,
oh darn jokes on. You we've just been. Entertaining you
keep me, occupied and it's like in a video, game
and you, know all sorts of crazy thoughts cross my.
Mind but on the same, token there are real effects that,

(02:03:17):
happen AND i don't want TO i don't want to
be a little and what kind of, yeah your thought
on some of the stories of. Shootings you, know we've all.
Heard i'm sure you've heard your own stories of people
shooting these things and they seem to just walk. Away my.

Speaker 11 (02:03:38):
Goodness i've talked TO i don't know how a couple
three or four guys that have hit him with their,
car knocked him. Down they got out of the car
and looking at, him thinking they're looking at this, body
thinking what. What all of a, sudden it stands, up
looks ron looks at, him shakes it, off and kid
jumps up and runs back off into the. Woods AND
i talked to guy down in uh this Little Tony

(02:04:00):
george just east Of, atlanta that hit a creature on
a bridge and he came over the bridge and he
said there was no there. Was there was a two
lane bridge and there was no, shoulder and there's nowhere
for me to. Go and it came over the bridge
AND i hit this thing and then knocked it right
off the uh the, bridge AND i got out of my,

(02:04:20):
car went. Down there was this thing laying, there and he,
said the neighbors come. Up we're all this was back
in the. Eighties we're all looking at this. Thing it's
dead and nobody had camera. Phones it was in the
eighties before anybody had a. Phone and We're i'm standing
there looking at this. Thing it looked like a five foot,
upright a, wolf but its front paws are real. Small

(02:04:43):
and THEN i saw AFTER i took AFTER i took this,
REPORT i Saw Linda godfrey's sketch Of hurt that the
big for that windows saw that was up on the
roof with little these little arms and the dog dog,
legs and it. Came it came across the. Bridge was
it was running on two. Feet and then the farmers are.
Coming they're looking at this. Thing they're all looking at,

(02:05:03):
it and one guy, goes so that's what's been killing my.
Sheep the other guy, says that's what got into my
chicken coop and killed half my. Chickens that's what killed my.
Lamb and they're realizing that this is after, This they're
all looking at this thing has been killing livestock in the.
Era when to make the long story, short they called THE.
Dnr the guy gave me THE dnr officer's. Name they

(02:05:23):
all knew who he was because they used to. Hunt
and they come and take the. Body and he called
him back and he, said what was? It he, Says
i've never heard of your. Shame no one's ever told
me what it. Was and because the park rangers or
THE dnr or the wildlife, officers they like their. Job
they have a, job and they have kids in college

(02:05:45):
and they have retirement to look out for. It they're
not going to get involved in this. Stuff they tell
him to shut. Up they shut. UP i talked To Dave,
leady who shot one with a three point fifty seven
In North, carolina and he, SAID i could see the
hair As i'm shooting at this. THING i can see
the hair part AND i can hear the. Thud i'm a,
hunter and when your bullet hits, something you hear a audible.

(02:06:07):
Thud i'm shooting this thing and it's just looking at
me like whatever with a three fifty. SEVEN i think
it might have been like twenty yards from it or
something like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
That and it. Was it was not the only.

Speaker 11 (02:06:18):
One they. Said he'd shoot it and it would just
look at. Him you'd look at the other one over,
here look back at this, one and this one had
advanced ten feet like. That within a. Second he was getting.
Closer AND i talked to A.

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
I've never heard of retaliation for being shot, Though, no
is that?

Speaker 11 (02:06:36):
Strange? Yeah, yeah and again it's just another little component
into they have rules even if we shoot. Down, yeah
that just hit me.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
Now i've never once heard of a retaliation.

Speaker 11 (02:06:51):
Ever, Yeah AND i mean you hear the stories that
people aim at a gun at him and it goes
wacko and it starts to like charge you and making
noises to terrify. You but it never he said they
could have got to. Me Mike wooley had two of
them chasing through was he knew they could have had.
Him he shot one at, them you, know he had

(02:07:13):
his gun on one and they were chasing him all
the way back in his. CAR i talked to a,
guy and it could have had him and it. DIDN'T
i talked to a, guy Mister, brown what a nice
guy up In, Somerville, georgia and he, was this is,
interesting that's. Wrong i'm wanting to tell you interesting. Stories
he went down Gen sing. Hunting he usually goes with
a friend of his AND i think he was probably

(02:07:35):
in his fifties at the, time and his friend could make.
It so he, said, well this is wrong men to.
Be if you want to meet me, there he, said,
Well i'll, maybe But i'm probably not gonna HAVE i
got something to. Do so Mister brown parks his Car
stammer And, Summerville georgi's goes down this. Embankment it's very
tricky and. Bacon he has an. Idea there's ginsing down
her and he's picking gensing and here's somebody walking up behind,
him and he's. Thinking he didn't even look up at.

(02:07:56):
First he just assumed it was buddy because he told
where he was gonna. Be so he continues looking For
GenZ and he hears it again and he turns around
and there is a, female hairy person totally, naked standing
in the woods and she's looking at him and she's
She he's in shocked looking at this female. Bigfoot that's
What i'm gonna call. It and then she looks over

(02:08:19):
into the woods and he's hearing this popping sound and
walking and he gets the strong feeling that this she ain't.
Alone and then she's worth several of, them and they're
coming into her position and they're looking for something to,
eat and she looks at, him and then she looks
over her her she looks towards her friends that are,
coming and she looks like she goes and then she

(02:08:42):
looks back away from like, this and then she looks
back at and he's, shocked and she looks and say.
H and he realizes he's she's telling him to get
his you know what and get out of there right
now before my friends get. Here that's the impression he.
Got she is warning him they're. Coming get out of,

(02:09:04):
here he. Says once he understood what he, was she
was telling. Him she she would make that noise to,
him and then she would look off towards her, friences
so they weren't looking at, it see her looking at.
Him she was warning. Him he, SAID i got, up
and he, SAID i was not in good. SHAPE i
ran up that hill to get to my car faster
Than i've ever moved in my. Life WHEN i got

(02:09:25):
to my, CAR i was trying to open my car,
door AND i started vonning BECAUSE i was so tired
and terrified at the same. Time but it was interesting
to me BECAUSE i think she was saving his. Life,
yeah and that's not the first Time i've heard that
from a witness in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
Hand, YEAH i want to get into. THAT i WANT
i want to get into, that the life saving. Stories but,
okay The Abe canyon, Thing David ellis brought up a good.
Point what about the a Canyon they threw rocks at the.
Cabin But i'm talking About i've heard story is where
guys have pulled a gun point, blank where the creature
is four feet, away they shoot, it the creature runs.

(02:10:07):
Off i'm talking about right there at that, moment like
kill the, guy you, know like get revenge versus throwing. Rocks,
hell they throw rocks when you haven't done anything to. Them.

Speaker 11 (02:10:20):
Yeah, Yeah Fred bible he even wrote in his BOOK
I fought the Ape man Of mounts In hell's that
he knew that those things could have got in, there
they could have torn the walls, again but they didn't
even at, them shooting at it, overnight shooting at. It
they stopped shooting because they were all kind of thinking
that they would go away after that. Happened but he

(02:10:41):
said he knew they could have.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
Busted, YEAH i was referring to like real, retaliation like
a story where there was, witnesses somebody shot one and
they just you, know grab the guy and tore his arm.
Off you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
Know, well the other perspective on that, is if they did,
retaliate maybe those are the people you never hear from. Again,
well that's.

Speaker 11 (02:11:02):
TRUE i have no doubt that some of these things
don't like. Us well for, sure don't like us like a,
lot and if there's an opportunity to take one of,
US i don't know what they do with.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
THIS i don't.

Speaker 11 (02:11:15):
Know, YEAH i think some of them don't like us that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
MUCH i want to relay a story to. You david
My son used TO i don't know if he's doing.
ANYMORE i don't think he's doing it. Anymore but he
used to find out where a person went missing and
then he would go camp. There, brilliant, Right that's WHAT
i would tell. Him, brilliant brilliant. Idea so there was

(02:11:40):
a guy up in The Bounty waters that went. Missing
all they found was his wallet and his tent and
he was just. Gone never found any trace of. Him
So blaine's, Like i'm gonna go camping right there in his.
Campsite so he goes up, there long hike fifteen miles
back in The Bounty waters camps, there and oh my,
god the woman that he was with ended up GETTING

(02:12:03):
ptsd because they got. IT i, mean the tent had
boulders thrown and landed right at the base of the,
tent rolling up wood knocks all, night rocks hitting the
rocks near the shore they were at, bounding ricocheting in the.
Water they were just really that was aggressive and it's

(02:12:24):
all recorded AND i put it up on. YouTube you
can listen to. It you. Know they put what do
you call it a microphone outside and a, recorder ran,
headphones wire and splitter so she could hear what was going,
on and he could and it was so. Bad he
had yelled knock it, off you, know because he was getting,

(02:12:49):
worried because they were getting really. Agreed but that's where
the guy went. Missing and so It's.

Speaker 11 (02:12:57):
Yourn's not doing that, anymore, RIGHT i don't think so
maybe he.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
IS i don't, know but he was doing it on
a quitter regular. BASIS i, SAID i don't think that's
a great idea because when someone's, gone like he, wondered
did he come out of the tanty to hear a
bunch of the same racket that they. Heard but the
difference is they did not come out of the tent to.
Investigate they stayed within that, nylon, right and that may

(02:13:25):
make a. Difference the, Nylon, yeah the thin nylon saved.
Him but all the, record you got to listen to, It,
David it's it's. Crazy you can hear him just walking
around and throwing stuff and you, know wood knocking real.
Aggressively and they were not happy they were, there AND i,

(02:13:47):
do of, course we don't know of anything to do
with this poor man that went. Missing But blaine's, like
what are the, chances what are the chances that we
go there and right away they have activity so bad
THAT i guess the lady brought up. There they had
to go get a, hotel AND i got it there

(02:14:08):
the next. Morning they packed them get the hell out of.
There said, that like the refrigerator came on in the
hotel and she would just flinch violently because they, Were
and you, know it's is? It is? It in other,
words is it the question is is it an intimidation

(02:14:29):
or do you think if they have a, chance they
could grab somebody and hurt, them drag them.

Speaker 11 (02:14:35):
OFF i think it's. BOTH i think some of. IT
i think they might amused themselves with this kind of stuff.
Too it could be very just go scare the, dumb hairless.
Humans SO i think it's it's some of them was
a comedy. ACT i, mean they lived as scare. Us
BUT i remember WHEN i talked to the hiker From
california that went to pipe The Appalachian. Trail it was

(02:14:57):
this first day safe for like six months of train
and he's on his first leg at Em Colola State
park and three of these things descend upon him in broad,
daylight driving him down the trail further and further breaking.
It every time he tries to, rest they break a tree.
Down he gets his backpacker and he's JUST i keep,
Moving and he, said BEFORE i realized what was going.

(02:15:19):
ON i realized these things were corralling me further away
from the entrance to the, park further down the, trail
and make a sort of long story. Shirt he's in
his tent at night and there's two of them standing
above his tent, arguing and he, SAID i couldn't understand
the word they were, saying but he, SAID i knew
exactly what was going. On one of them wanted to

(02:15:40):
kill me and the other one was trying to convince
the other one to let me. Live AND i didn't do,
anything he, SAID i. Was i'm just hiking on the.
TRAIL i didn't even have a weapon with. Me it
wasn't a, hunter he. Said the only THING i could
think of that irritating BECAUSE i had a camouflage cap,
on like a military, cap but he wasn't ex. Military

(02:16:01):
and so there's no doubt that we know there's bad,
ones but we KNOW i think obviously there's a lot
more good ones than bad.

Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
Ones, well there have to be some bad. ONES i,
mean there just kind of has to. Be it just
kind of goes without. SAYING a man to, ask is
that video here in the? End told, yes it's CALLED
i THINK i called it a bigfoots in my. Camp
there's part one and part. Two wear headphones because you'll
be you'll be just like you were in the tent

(02:16:28):
you put the headphones. On it's actually a friend of
mine listened to it. Recently he called. Me he, said
that freaked me out more than ANYTHING i ever listened. To,
wow that the guts that they had to just you,
know but what are you gonna? Do? Right you, know
you can't do. Anything you can go outside and try
to scare him? Off and he just Like David, ellis

(02:16:50):
Because david analyzed a.

Speaker 11 (02:16:51):
Lot of the.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
Recording he just Love lane's. Response he, goes, easy, buddy
what's he gonna?

Speaker 11 (02:17:00):
Do?

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
Anyhow it's. On it's just Called bigfoot Or sasquatch in my.
Camp it's it's under videos on. It go to our,
homepage go to videos and just scroll till you find.
It it's kind of a green.

Speaker 5 (02:17:15):
Thumb NOW i just FOUND i just found it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
All. Uh there's two of, them and there's a third
one THAT i haven't got around to editing. Yet there's
another one that's like part. Three but, anyhow so nothing of.
That so, intimidation obviously they seem to all do, that,
Right that's one thing they have in. Comedy all do.

(02:17:37):
Intimidation god like Black. Bears you, know if you've had
a running with a black, beard ninety nine percent of
the chance they're gonna start clacking their, teeth they're banging the,
ground and it's a. Bluff if they're making, noise you're.
Safe it's the quiet one you gotta worry about that
don't make any. Noise and maybe the same for maybe
the same For. Bigfoot there may have been one creature

(02:18:00):
in that group that didn't do, anything just sat there
and waited for those guys to come out of the.
Tent but we don't, know you, Know but it was
interesting WHEN i studied the, Area. David there was a
huge cliff near them in like a valley THAT i
don't think anybody's ever. Explored it's like a hidden valley

(02:18:21):
and we found it On Google, maps and literally all
of us are scared to go back. There AND i
don't THINK i could even make the Hike blanes and
you'd never make. It it's really. Brutal but the hidden
valley was interesting WHEN i found. That it's just weird.
ANYWAY i keep thinking about, it all. Right, audio have

(02:18:46):
you ever heard? Audio or do you like moreheads got
this talking kind of samuraiz. STUFF i finally have heard
audio up at Snow. Grove we recorded. It it was crystal.
Clear we had microphones in our cameras that were, out
and all of a, sudden something went around and threw

(02:19:07):
a rock at every camera and we heard it live,
right and they were hidden cameras a little tiny and
it still it was like you, IDIOTS i know where
they all. Are and it went around through a rock
and then it said this weird phrase into one of
the cameras and it sounds Like Native american. Talk and

(02:19:27):
this isn't a very. ISOLA i mean you have to
get you, know dropped off by a floatplane and. Left
it's not where they're going to have human. Interference AND
i don't want to think of. It it's just, like
was that message meant for a certain person in our because?
It do you want me to play? It you want

(02:19:49):
to hear?

Speaker 11 (02:19:49):
It?

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
David, OKAY i can play it real quick.

Speaker 5 (02:19:52):
Here while he's looking that up, TOO i should we
can add. That last night on The Ontold network On
Real American, Monsters doug And ug And Joe, fricellatol we're
talking About, snellgrove so highly recommend you go look Up
Real American monsters from last. Night, yeah, yeah we were.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
On that talking About snellgrove and all we've been going
there To gaving and we were going there thirty, five thirty,
six thirty eight years now wow to that. Cabin and
we never had any activity until one day we brought
our kids up, there our, daughters and all of a
sudden there was a wood knock right next to my,
boat And i'm, like oh, crap and so we. Did

(02:20:35):
we waited until like one in the, morning we did
a wood knock and we got a response right outside
the firelight like twelve fifteen feet from, us loud and
knowing like right, away and you should have seen everybody
that camp fire just did their, jaws just. Drawing and
that was the night the cabin got attacked for the first.

(02:20:56):
Time AND i had been going there thirty years and
never had an hang App AND i used to sleep
go there even alone and sleep out on the dock
on the pull the foot on cushion out if it
was too hot in the. Cabin all, right hold, on
here we, go uh snowbur of lake, talking here we?
Go you, ready. Yep i'm Sure i'm sorry if people

(02:21:17):
have heard, this BUT i put my volume up. Here
hold on, HERE i should get this to, You, jeff
so you can do it. PROPERLY. I i mean it's crystal.

(02:21:38):
CLEAR I i that came across live with our camera
and then we all just freaked because and we had
brought up a system which we had never done before

(02:21:58):
where we could hear the can was live and that
luckily we got it on. Tape what did that? MEAN
i don't. Know it sounds like it's Saying i'll talk with.
You that's kind of what it sounds. Like But David ellis, says,
no it's Like i'll sauce switch out or something like.

Speaker 11 (02:22:16):
That so maybe you should get if you could get
to A Native american tribe reservation in that. Area maybe
it's just a. THOUGHT i don't.

Speaker 2 (02:22:29):
Know, yeah it's it's a good. THOUGHT i just don't
know what it.

Speaker 11 (02:22:32):
Is probably don't.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
Know but it seems like it's Speaking. English BUT i don't.
KNOW i don't.

Speaker 11 (02:22:40):
Know it's.

Speaker 2 (02:22:40):
Freaky so what do you think of The morehead tapes
And ron and that whole it's. Crazy, YEAH i, Know
i'm GOING ron for years and it's.

Speaker 11 (02:22:50):
The most important piece of audio probably. Ever, yeah because
you could hear of. It it's not just one how
they're talking amongst each, other and you can get a
sense of the, emotion, right talking to a little, ONE
i was like a father and. Son, yeah so, YEAH
i think it's just. AMAZING i listened to him one hundred.

(02:23:12):
Times this taps one hundred. TIMES i can't make heatch
of tails what they're, saying But Scott, nelson.

Speaker 2 (02:23:19):
CERTAINLY i haven't sent this To. SCOTT i really should, Have,
david OR i should send it To Scott. Nelson. Yeah
maybe the trouble Is scott's so involved in the Marinad.
DAVES i don't know if you'd have a room for
even looking at, it but listening to. It but it's very.
Clear it was very close to the microphone. Obviously, Yeah david,

(02:23:44):
says it's speaking at a fast, rate not your normal conversational. Speed,
yeah and you think.

Speaker 11 (02:23:50):
It AND i Think Scott nelson said that they speak
so fast that we Can't they don't break their words
up like they just like it all out very, fast
and that it would usually mean that they have to
have a brain function that works on that. Level, Right
so obviously they're very. Intelligent if they can speak fast

(02:24:12):
to one, another they're gonna have to have a brain
that can process it that. Fast so that's interesting as.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Well, well what's the what's the what's the one, Thing
david that they do in the forest that they do
a lot Of they pushed trees down a, ton tip them,
over you. Know and AND i realized that elephants kind
of have that same. Purpose they push a lot of
trees down and that helps the. Environment i'm wondering if

(02:24:39):
that's one of the ways they contribute to the environment
in the forest by pushing trees.

Speaker 11 (02:24:44):
Down, WELL i had a tree pushed down at me
my wife AND i did a would knock he did
To Reestate. Park it's never it's never happened. Before it
was a perfectly calm day and we were there on
an on an expedition and we got THERE i think
the day before or everybody got. There so we went
through a hike with what they called The Torria, challenge

(02:25:05):
which takes you it's like the very the very beginning
of the appellation of The Appalachian mountains, range and it
actually starts in The panhandle Of florida in cold place called.
Three this got a little bit. Elevation it's unlike any
other place In florida that's right Where Stacy brown got
his father got that thermal. Park and we stopped at

(02:25:29):
a beautiful. Day we, STOPPED i don't, know we're two
three miles, in took our. Packs office said let's have
something to, drink AND i, said, well we're, sitting let
me just do a wood. Knock it's like two o'clock and.
Afternoon there was no. Wind nothing like this has ever.
HAPPENED i picked up my picked up my sturdy walking
stick and went over to tree AND i tapped a
few times to make SURE i got a good, knock

(02:25:50):
AND i went, bam, bam. Bam and it wouldn't a
second after that last knock that we could hear a
Tree i'm guessing seventy five yards away into the. Woods
you could hear this. Thing you could hear this, tree
and it wasn't like dead. Falling something was pushing this thing,

(02:26:11):
over because you could hear all the live fibers in
this tree fighting. It it was pop, pop popup. Creker
the whole way from the beginning to the, end this
tree was, resisting pushing down to get hear all that
wet fiber until it finally were. Smashed SO i let the,
ground and we Were my wife AND i looked at

(02:26:32):
each other like we knew that tree didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:26:34):
Fall we knew that kind of proves it was. Pushed, yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:26:37):
Right and then after, that where as we're trying to,
process we hear this very strange mechanical, sound like a
buzzing sound coming from.

Speaker 2 (02:26:48):
This stop, stop stop. Buzzing.

Speaker 11 (02:26:51):
Yeah we're, like what what is? That And i'm, thinking
is that somebody with a drill or. Something but it
sounded like it was up in the, air like it
wasn't on the.

Speaker 2 (02:26:59):
Ground, okay, okay well back back up just a little.
Bit somebody even asked me to remind you about asking
if you heard any buzzy or.

Speaker 5 (02:27:08):
Humming.

Speaker 11 (02:27:09):
YEAH i thought they never heard any. Buzzing and there
was nothing out there mac. There you're in the. Year
you're out. There there's no, houses there's no, buildings there's
no there's one little service road that takes you back
to a primitive. Campsite but it was close. Enough if
it was you can't get it with a, truck you

(02:27:29):
have you use AN. Atv we would have heard THE.
Atv it wasn't that far. AWAY i don't know what
the hell it Was i've heard these weird buzzing sounds
that people have said. Before but let me tell you.
Something we picked up our. Packs we didn't hang around
to find. Out we certainly didn't go investigate between the
between the cracking and the big it was a big

(02:27:50):
tree that came down and that buzzing. Sound we packed it,
up which just said we're, leaving AND i think we
actually turned on our hike right back. Out, yeah that was.

Speaker 2 (02:28:00):
Weird can you describe the in more, detailed this buzzing, sound,
like give me some, comparatives? Hummingbird?

Speaker 11 (02:28:09):
Uh oh?

Speaker 2 (02:28:12):
Uh did? It and did it vibrate your ear? Drum kind?
Of did?

Speaker 11 (02:28:17):
IT i don't remember it was loud enough to vibrate
my ear, drum BUT i remember that it was A
it was a loud buzzing sound that we could. Hear
it wasn't right. Here it, was LIKE i, said seventy
five yards away in the, woods slightly, elevated so it
wasn't like it wasn't like coming from the. Ground it
was coming up from like midway between the tops and
the bottom of the. Trees and it was loud enough

(02:28:41):
that it had to be something. Big it wasn't like
a bug or. Something it was, loud And i'm trying
to think at the, time it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:49):
Didn't remind you at. ALL i mean even reminiscent of
hummingbird wings loud and on your, bone humming.

Speaker 11 (02:28:55):
Bird it could have. Been to be honest with, YOU
i was still in. Shock the tree could coming, down.
RIGHT i could still hear the tree coming down When
i'm hearing the buzzing. Sound So i'm already in shock
WHEN i hear this buzzing. Sound SO i couldn't to.
ME i just really couldn't tell you if it was
a if it sounded like a. Honeybird my wife's not.

(02:29:17):
HERE i GUESS i could ask. Her she was saying
that right next to me when it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
Happened She why don't you, okay this isn't kind of.
Important why don't you Have david jump? In david if
you want to jump, in you can just jump in
with a audio too if you, want but Send. David
what the current? Link jeff, ye give me a man,
Here David? Ellis you Know David ELLIS'S i. Do, Yes,
Yeah we'll Get david. On and this is important for

(02:29:43):
you because if anybody needs to know this information as
you because you take so many reports and talk to
so many, people and if it's a, question you could
for us even ask have you ever heard any? Buzzing
the fact you've heard it yourself is really. Important so

(02:30:04):
we'll Get david on. Here, yeah we can get you
some recordings of other people that have recorded, it and
of course we recorded it up At snell last, year
tons of. It like it's crazy and what is? That
it's REALLY i don't. Know it isn't a. Hummingbird and
we know that it's right because we've done all these

(02:30:26):
spectrograms and. Comparatives it's some kind of a hum, or
a buzz and it also changes with maybe with the
size of the creature doing, it Because i'll tell you
a quick. Story adam walked out Of snell early morning
one day and he's hearing this sound and he, said

(02:30:47):
what the heck is?

Speaker 10 (02:30:48):
This is?

Speaker 11 (02:30:48):
It you?

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
Know someone like electricity almost maybe or, so all of a,
sudden here's a big one yell at the little one
with the like the all of a sudden there was a,
beeper a lower one and then the little one shut.
Up that's super. WEIRD i don't, KNOW i don't. Know,
Yeah david, SAYS i can't believe the number of encounters

(02:31:11):
and a lot of recordings of, this and we found
articles Are david dead of stuff back into the early nineteen,
hundreds like nineteen thirty of people describing hearing a buzzing
or humming and they looked up and expected to see
a bugg or something and it was a bigfoot standing. There. Wow,

(02:31:33):
yeah so we've got direct, connections, right which is. Fascinating oh,
here here's here's another. One bee have but recorded the
humming of a well pump up on a mount with
no electricity for. Miles, yeah exactly is uh, oh there he,

(02:31:56):
is he's coming. In. Yeah, Sorry. David we don't mean
to sticky in there and get you on the, spot
but that might be ink very nice kind of into our.
Show but we don't let me. Forget. David want to
hear about your sighting or whatever you've seen before we wrap. Up, Okay,

(02:32:17):
david are you?

Speaker 5 (02:32:18):
There you got a lot of, Men, Yeah David ellis
are you? Ready he's? Ready all?

Speaker 2 (02:32:23):
Right well he's saying, no.

Speaker 5 (02:32:26):
No, no oh, okay oh he just. Disconnected he'll be,
back he'll be.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
Back so why don't you tell us what you've. Seen
you just told us one story that kind of freaked you,
out which is great that you mentioned, That but has
there been anything else that you've.

Speaker 11 (02:32:45):
Witnessed so my first encounter was SOMETHING i didn't even
know what it was at the. TIME i was about,
eighteen living in a a little apple farm in Northern,
michigan a little place Called Saint helen near Ross, Common,
michigan and my parents WERE i lived in an old
schoolhouse and matter of, fact it was an old schoolhouse
Where Charlton heston had gone to school as a, child

(02:33:08):
and we lived in it and with the chalkboards were on.
It it was turned into a, home but they left
a lot of the school stuff that's. Still the bell
was all the way at the top and. There and
there's a little store next, door like just a little party.
Store but there's a few, farms but pretty much it's
quite remote out. There but we're on a main two
LANE m fifty five was the name of the. Road

(02:33:30):
it's a two lane. Road and one mornings winter my
family is, visiting has gone To. Florida i'm there by.
Myself i'm in my first year of. College i'm sleeping
in the bedroom two o'clock in the. Morning i'm guessing
one o'clock in the. MORNING i wake out of. Bed
something is beating on the side of the cabin so

(02:33:52):
loud it wakes me out of my. Bed i'm, like
what the, hell AND i get out of my walk
out of the. Bedroom i'm staying in the living room
AND i can see something is beating on the. WALL
i can see the wall.

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
Moving oh, Jeez so this this is, like, really you
gotta get your pointing. Cross this is. Powerful it's.

Speaker 11 (02:34:09):
Pounding there's something huge, outside like it's really strong on the.
Wall and Where i'm, standing it's four feet to the
ground because as you walk up to the, schoolhouse the
grounds right. Here so whatever this was, pounding it had
to be pounding ten eleven feet up from the ground

(02:34:30):
because it was about a little taller than my. Eyes
and it's four feet down to the. Ground so whatever
standing out there beating on the ground ain't no. Bear it's.
Huge it scared me so. BAD i went to my dad's,
bedroom my parents', bedroom BUT i got my dad's shot
gun loaded it AND i sat there in that chair
facing and there was big picture windows SO i could

(02:34:52):
have this windows AND i could have just looked out
around the corner and see what it. Was but something told,
me don't. Look you don't want to see what's out.

Speaker 2 (02:35:01):
There, yeah same Thing i've had.

Speaker 11 (02:35:03):
Happened SO i didn't, look and something just, said don't,
look just Sit AND i, thought whatever this thing, is
if it gets in this, House i'm gonna have to shoot.
It SO i sat there till the sun came up
it went. Away there was no snow on the ground
at the, time so there was no. PRINCE i couldn't
find anything molested or moved around or anything like. That
it's scared that living crap out of. Me the other, time,

(02:35:26):
though that's like a horn told my parents when they came.
HOME i never told my. PARENTS i never said anything
to anybody what have, happened AND i don't THINK i
ever told. Them And i've relaid the story to a few,
people my brothers and my, sisters BUT i never told my,
parents certainly didn't tell my. Sisters and the last one
that the other one that happened was WHEN i was
on an investigation with my. Wife, Thankfully i'm with my

(02:35:48):
wife with a lot of the, south SO i have
we know what we. SAW i didn't dream it. Up
and we are an investigation In florida where the guy
who's a fisherman and his friend and said he's got
these things on his property and he comes home with
all these, fish cleans them up and cooks. Them and
this leaves the heads and guts laying all over the.
Place and they will come in and look at his

(02:36:10):
windows and they love the. Fish AND i think they
used to take the part pieces of fish he'd lead laying.
Around and he was frightened if they were going to
take his, dog because his roommates would see him looking
in the windows like this night they wake up and
see this face looking at. Him next day with the
peck the crap and leave he. Lost he was on
his third roommate and he was afraid they were going

(02:36:30):
to take and eat his. Dog his dog's name Was.
Tank was just a, great, big old like mixed. Retriever
she couldn't hardly. Run but one night he was looking
in his. Bedroom he jumps out of, bed thinking it
was just some person grabs a twenty two and he's
running out in the front yard with his underwear on
with his twenty two and he's chasing this thing through the.

(02:36:53):
Yard it leaps over a four foot fence on the other.
Side the swamp is on the other. Side never even
touched the, fence and when it got over the other
side of the, fence it just reached his arms out
and started mowing the trees down and. Screaming and that's
when he realized it wasn't a. Person so we camped

(02:37:13):
out in his. Backyard he kicked up his, smoke or,
says whenever they smell, fish they. Come and we sat
out there maybe an hour and a. Half you're playing
some music and there was. Swamp there was no. House
it was a swamp back, there and we're in a
tent with a, thermal but we had The scout thermal
before it there was. Affordable they couldn't didn't. Record you

(02:37:35):
could just it was A ps twenty four or something like.
That you could, see but it didn't. Record my wife's
in the. Tent we're taking turns coming out of the,
tent so nobody's looking, around but somebody scanning behind the
scenes from just outside of a. Tent my wife, says
you better get in, here SO i get in there
in the tent with. Her she hands me the THING

(02:37:56):
i look out at surest. Crap there's these two things
in the swamp behind each of them behind a. Tree
they got their arm behind the. Tree they'd lean out
like that from the tree and they look, back and
then this one leans. Out it comes, back and the
tree is only like this, wide so it's just covering
you can see everything. Else it's just a tree, covering

(02:38:19):
just a slit down the front of. Them everything else
was hanging out from the, tree and they'd look out
and this one would look, in and this one look
and then they go back behind and he'd look, again
this one. Off for like twelve fourteen minutes something like.
That the witness, CAME i, said go in there and
look at the. Tent So i'd come out and we,
said don't look at, him just kind of make you,
know just. Talk and then finally after we switched a

(02:38:41):
couple of times whenever they were figured, out but we
could see, them and my wife was back on the
thermal where she could see him turn a walk off
into the swamp and go. Back next, MORNING i get,
UP i jumped, THAT i jumped that fence And i'd
go in there the. Swamp i'm, thinking how in the
hell can anything walk, huge thick, vines look like a
horrible tours end. Movie how anything you can walk in?

(02:39:03):
THERE i have no idea fines, pot big holes in the,
ground all, wet and it's weird because we never heard.
Anything you couldn't hear them walking. Around, well you can
see him plain as, day but it was it was
just a thermal image to walk away or never heard
him walk. Up they were just totally. Quiet BUT i
went back to the next, MORNING i, said how would

(02:39:25):
the hell could anything walk around in? Here but they,
Were they were back, there and that was My that
was my, second and THEN i had one more after.
That already told you.

Speaker 2 (02:39:36):
About well hang on one. Set we're just gonna Let
david in.

Speaker 11 (02:39:41):
And then you Can Hey david, One david, two.

Speaker 2 (02:39:48):
It's David. Knight, Yeah, david it's good to see. You sorry,
Short by any, chance can you blained To david how
important this little bit of.

Speaker 14 (02:40:04):
Influence, well it's one of those sounds That i'm constantly
looking for that people aren't aware. Of that maybe more
common than we, think and may tie back into, sasquatchery
BUT i believe it was a common person That doug

(02:40:25):
AND i both worked With Tristan, yolton who has sent
me quite a bit of, audio talked about a recording
that he got when ACTUALLY i think it was his
first time putting a recorder, out and he was convinced
that there was a sasquatch that was eating some food
that he had left. Out well during the time that

(02:40:48):
it was, eating was making this, buzzing, humming purring, sound
if you, will like a contented cat.

Speaker 11 (02:40:56):
Eating and.

Speaker 14 (02:41:00):
Asked kristen what was that and he, said, WELL i don't,
know but it's kind of. Weird and Then, DOUG i
think you played it on untold radio and because you
said to, US i just got a feeling about. This
this is one of those. Things trust, me it's going
to get, legs and it sure. Did we started getting

(02:41:23):
reports from a lot of people THAT i worked with
over the. Years one of them you may Know Paul.
Graves he was With John andrews and they actually recorded
it and didn't know what it. Was had me listen to,
it AND i, said, well it ties in with, this

(02:41:44):
and Then paul got really interested in. It he went
on the internet and went back through The bigfoot forms
do you remember that talking? Group and he found an
article THAT I scott McClean had captured and it was a,

(02:42:07):
lady Missus cawfield in nineteen twenty four something like. That
maybe not twenty, four that's an overused, number that's The
Ape canyon, number but it.

Speaker 11 (02:42:17):
Was it Was it was, Early, yeah it was.

Speaker 14 (02:42:20):
Early she was took her laundry down to a river
and was washing it and she heard a hummingbird and
she looked up to see the, hummingbird only it was
a sasquatch making this.

Speaker 2 (02:42:34):
Sound didn't subsquatch have an infant with? HER i can't remember.

Speaker 14 (02:42:38):
NOW i know they kind of both stared at each
other for a little bit and parted way as. Quickly
but she was very adamant about what she, heard and
it just tied in with this particular, sound like it's.

Speaker 11 (02:42:56):
A buzz, or a hum, or a. Purr and there's
a been quite a few people that have come forward with.

Speaker 2 (02:43:02):
It so now read the, Post david real. Quick can
you see?

Speaker 14 (02:43:08):
That could it be some sort of residual energy or maybe?
Interesting you, know it can be a lot of different.
THINGS i think it has to do with the mechanics
of their air, sacks but they Have i'm pretty convinced
that they at this point in time that they have

(02:43:29):
air sacks that to contribute to the infrasound. Possibilities and
this resonance of this, hummingbird it's pretty. LOW i think
it's in the forty hertz, range.

Speaker 5 (02:43:45):
Which is.

Speaker 11 (02:43:48):
Been pretty much what we look for when we get
reports of this particular. Sound i've heard. This i've heard
the humming sound before as, well not a lot as
many as you guys, have BUT i think it's been
associated with With, uh they're making the, sound, right they're making. It,

(02:44:08):
yeah it's got to be a. Purpose it's either is
it to calm us? DOWN i think it may be
to calm themselves? Down or is it to freeze? Us
where there's so many stories of yeah right and all
said you cannot move.

Speaker 14 (02:44:23):
RIGHT i think that has to do with maybe the
infrasound that they seem to have the capability of doing as.

Speaker 11 (02:44:32):
Well, Right so.

Speaker 2 (02:44:35):
Very, INTERESTING a lot of interesting comments flooding in.

Speaker 5 (02:44:38):
Here, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44:41):
Hilary, SAYS i heard, It tell, yeah tell about hurting
himself being picked up by a bigfoot and the bigfoot
made a purring sound to smooth his, crime and he went.

Speaker 11 (02:44:52):
Yeah there is also a report.

Speaker 14 (02:44:56):
In the archives THAT i ran across where a sasquatch
was supposedly baby being a baby of theirs.

Speaker 11 (02:45:02):
At a creek and was, humming making this particular.

Speaker 2 (02:45:05):
Sound so that always been associated with. This he actually
even HAS i guess when we hum are what our
blood pressure and all sorts of physical, things, Right so
maybe it might just be that. Simple so many damn.

Speaker 11 (02:45:23):
Mysteries SO i recently heard and it's not the first
TIME i heard the same. Story it's it's been passed,
around but about a kid that was on a field
trip with his. Family AND i can't remember what state,
where but, GENERAL i just get to say the general.
Story and it was the first time he had been
on a field. Trip he was from the. City and

(02:45:45):
as he was walking around the, creek he was looking
at frogs and. Salamanders he was just absolutely, stunned and
he got behind the. Group tell me if you've heard the,
story and he's and he's in a creek looking at
these little things that all of a sudden he realized
he's by, himself that the group has left ahead of,
him and he and he sees a person walk up
next to, him and he looks up and there is

(02:46:08):
a bigfoot looking at, him and it looks at him
AND i can't remember exactly what happened, next but it
makes this sound this, world this, purring vibrating, sound and
then it picks the kid up like, this and it's
looking at him and this it was not looking at
him in a loving, way and it was looking at

(02:46:30):
him in a horrifying.

Speaker 2 (02:46:31):
Way and it.

Speaker 11 (02:46:32):
Started to make that sound to get as it was
holding the, kid st to make this very strange, humming vibrating.
Sound and the, kid he remembers he had an outer body.
Experience he's looking down at this sasquatch holding him from,
above like a near death, experience and that was initiated

(02:46:53):
by that bigfoot making that strange humming. Sound i'll see
IF i can find. It i've heard that's interesting least.
Twice but whatever the sasquatch was, doing it wasn't doing
it because it liked the kid or it was. NICE
i don't know, why but it didn't hurt the. Kid
the kid he passed out and he was laying AND
i think it was one of your, commenters and when

(02:47:15):
next to. You when he woke, up he was on
the ground and one of the one of the people
that one of the what do you call, him, uh
one of the people that was up with the field,
trip found the kid and dragged him back to the,
bus and they were all mad at him because they
were going to stop. Somewhere now they couldn't get had
to go right back to school because this kid got.

(02:47:36):
Lost but he really wasn't, lost and he tried to
tell people what happened to, him but they were all
telling him to stop dreaming this stuff up and they
wouldn't believe. Him but, yeah SO i don't know how
long this kid was on the ground when he came,
to but it held him up and made that strange
sound and created this outer body. Experience so you can do.
It but it sounded very just sounded like something somebody

(02:47:58):
would make. Up let's just say.

Speaker 14 (02:47:59):
That, well a sound can have a high end and
a low, end and the low. End you, know if
this humming sound is a forty hurtz, range it's only
another twenty hurts before it starts to dip into the.
Infrasound and there's so many psychological reactions to. Infrasound you

(02:48:22):
can go on the internet and read all of the
different types of reactions a person can, have and.

Speaker 11 (02:48:30):
It's been studied by the government as a tool to
use in.

Speaker 14 (02:48:35):
Warfare so there's there's a lot of things that could
happen to somebody when hit with. Infrasound and it sounds
like that's what was going on with this.

Speaker 5 (02:48:49):
Body.

Speaker 2 (02:48:49):
Experience, david could you play Like tristan's or somebody's you, know?
Good So david gives an idea what we're talking. About, oh,
GOSH i.

Speaker 5 (02:49:00):
Know i'm.

Speaker 11 (02:49:00):
Sorry the answer is, YES i. Could the answer IS,
i uh.

Speaker 2 (02:49:12):
Can? You so when you heard that, sound why did
it scare? You because just a, bug you know WHAT i?
Mean why would that have scared, You?

Speaker 11 (02:49:23):
David Because i'd never heard that sound, before and we
were at a place where there should be no sound like,
that and it was big, enough it was far enough
of way we knew. It it was a substantial source
of that.

Speaker 2 (02:49:37):
Sound, Right, okay that's the second Time i've heard it
coming from far. AWAY i Really, Oh i'm actually going
to be on a show tomorrow With Charlie. Raymond and
he had that happened to. Him him and his Wife
Neah lindsay had that happen to, them and it freaked

(02:49:59):
them both out BECAUSE i brought it up To. Charlie,
Well i'm going to be On Charlie show, tomorrow SO
i don't know what we're going to talk, about but.

Speaker 11 (02:50:07):
Yeah you, Know, charlie they had a they were going
to open a museum over there In Clay, County. Kentucky and,
UH i told, HIM i, said just just be, ready,
buddy because, once, once once they start coming, in you're
you're the road. Crossing you'll get a few of, those
but you're gonna start getting the good. Stuff and he's

(02:50:27):
getting a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:50:28):
Now, yeah he's doing a great job.

Speaker 11 (02:50:32):
Documenting there's so many Amazing. Kentucky's.

Speaker 2 (02:50:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah he's so nuts to. Me do you
attribute it to the mild, climate the more mild, climate
or do you think that has nothing to DO i,
mean you had Mentioned minnesota's pretty inclement in the, Wintertime
so do you think that they're attracted your area because

(02:50:57):
of the, Weather you.

Speaker 11 (02:50:59):
Know ONLY i don't think the weather matters that much to.
HIM i had a hunting guide From alaska come in
with his sister to tour the, museum and he was
real quiet and his wife and his sister was just.
Talking they were so excited to be. There but he
was real, quiet and she, goes you, know and she
goes to you on the. PLACE i, said, Yeah she
said you believe In? BIGFOOT i, said of. Course she, goes,

(02:51:20):
well if you want to hear about, bigfoot you should
talk to my brother over. There and he's real, quiet big.
GUY i love this guy as real quiet. Guys and
she AND i, go oh, really he, goes. Yep he,
Says i'm a hunting guy and An. Alaska he, says
we WERE i don't know what they were. Hunting they
were hunting whatever big game they're hunting In. Alaska and

(02:51:43):
he's they're out in the bush with Some, inuit and
it is he's the only one that's not An. Inuit
all the rest of the guys Are Inuit Native. Americans
and he says they're in their tents going to, sleep
And i'm up having a cup of coffee by, campfire he,
SAYS i and the firelight only goes out so, far

(02:52:05):
but he, Says i'm starting to see this thing coming
into the. Firelight he's thinking What AND i remember he
said he had his gun sitting next to. Him he
probably did if it was hunt In. Alaska i'm assuming
he had his rifle right. There he, said this thing
took one step into the. Firelight and he, says you don't.
Understand he, Says i've seen. Grizzlies this thing could break

(02:52:27):
a grizzly's. Neck this thing stepped into my. Firelight and
this Is. Alaska how where in the hell are sasquatch
is staying warm In? Alaska?

Speaker 2 (02:52:36):
Yeah, WELL i had my first footprint find even north Of,
alaska way up in The.

Speaker 11 (02:52:41):
Arctic this, GUY i, said how big was? It and
that's when he really comes to, live he. Says he,
Says i'm gonna tell you how big it. Was you,
said you see this this beam above my, head it's
about eight feet the eight, half he, said that's where
shoulders were. At that's how, big he says. YOU i
can't even begin to explain to you how SCARED i

(02:53:04):
was because this thing was. Huge and he, said AS
i stood, there it just made SURE i saw. It
and he said it took a couple of steps back
and it was out of the. FIRELIGHT i, SAID i
stapped there all night with my. GUN i wouldn't go
back to, bed AND i never told when he got
this guy's got up in the. MORNING i never said
a word to them all that WHAT i, saw but

(02:53:27):
one it was huge. Too how are these things living
up in the north like that and there is meat
right out of the? Snow why don't They why don't?
This why don't the sightings pick up In florida And
alabama in the? Wintertime but they. Don't that's WHY i,
Say i'm not sure these things really, migrate because when it,
snows there are the sightings don't pick up out of

(02:53:50):
the snow. Belt it's the.

Speaker 2 (02:53:51):
Same well you, Realize, OKAY i saw a poss. Once
it was a true forty, blow not Doing joe forty.
Blow AND i saw possum running out in front of
my car and he was just running AND i just
slowed down with the headlights on, him and he was
running And i'm looking at his bear. Tail, no, no

(02:54:12):
no fur at, all, Right And i'm, thinking how in
the world is he not freezing solid with no? Insulation you, know,
possums they don't have a lot of fat on, him
and they don't have a lot of. Fur but yet
the possum was just fine right forty. BELOW i would
have lasted out There oh my, god four or five

(02:54:33):
seconds before my lungs went, crystallized, right and it was
just you, know bare. Tale why doesn't it break? OFF
i don't, KNOW i, MEAN i really. Don't it's.

Speaker 11 (02:54:45):
Magical like possums eat. Garbage there's little. Eaters sasquatch requires
what do they, say thirty thousand calories a, day yeah
or something or. Something, still it's still kind of. Sustenance
and what people say. Them i've talked to, People i've
seen unhealthy, ones but most of the time these things
look like weightlifters on. Steroids, yeah they're, big they're not

(02:55:08):
starving to, death so so that that's just another strange.
Aspect how are they living in The Great White? North
where are they getting all this food to grows so?
Big they're not alone, there they have.

Speaker 2 (02:55:22):
Family but but why couldn't they just eat? Meat turned
to just a complete meat?

Speaker 11 (02:55:26):
Diet, yeah where's all the kills.

Speaker 2 (02:55:34):
Around The i'm not, arguing you, KNOW i, Mean i'm
not disagreeing.

Speaker 5 (02:55:37):
With you for.

Speaker 11 (02:55:38):
You that's for the people in the audience THAT i just,
YEAH i.

Speaker 2 (02:55:44):
Wonder i've gotten calls about people finding stacks of deer
with broken, Legs and THEN i THOUGHT i wondered if
they're just breaking their legs keeping them alive and. Immobilizing
and then a guy, said, OH i phoned them like
deer with broken, legs and they've got like a log
kind of on top of them to kind of keep

(02:56:05):
them there so they can't, move and then they're kept.
Alive and that's just, brutal but Crazy nature's.

Speaker 5 (02:56:12):
Brutal i'll talk TO, u, yeah you, know, Joking.

Speaker 11 (02:56:15):
JEFF i talk to friends with the pastor not too
far from, here and this pastor had moved into. Town
he owned her air conditioning, business so he was a
pastor at the. Church but they have regular, jobs, right
so they had just moved into this area and he
was the new pastor at the. Church so he's he's

(02:56:36):
he's off to an air conditioning. Work his wife is
home and the kids are at, school and his wife
is besieged by these two sasquatch one big one run little,
one and they keep coming into the. House they stand
on the deck looking at her as she's putting the laundry.
Away she calls her, husband you need to come. Home they're,

(02:56:56):
back absolutely freaking. Out he does don't really know anybody
in this. Town he just moved. There so after like
the fourth time of these, things staring at her not
in a good. Way this, wife he goes to his
congregation after the church one day after saying he's, desperate
he needs, help, says, look, Fellas I'm i'm gonna tell

(02:57:21):
this with you Because i'm. DESPERATE i need. HELP i
can't be home every. DAY i have to go make a.
Living and he tells him what's going? On and what
do you think happened to that? Pastor after he told
these guys and his congregation that he needed, help and
he was kind of hoping that if something, happened because
she called, you If i'm too, far would you come.

(02:57:41):
Over they fired, Him they let him go because they
thought he was a crack pot and he had to.
Move he had to, move sold and sold the, house
quit his, job and moved off some place. Else but
that's the kind of that's the kind the response you
can get from regular everyday people that regardless of religious. Affiliation,

(02:58:07):
uh they'll turn on. You folks will on you if
you try to tell him something they don't want to.
Hear and that guy was. Heartbroken he was heartbroken that
they didn't believe. Him instead of getting. Help they ran
him out of the. Church that's not a hit on a.
Church i'm not. Right, no that could happen to any.

Speaker 2 (02:58:23):
Church, damn you got anything queue?

Speaker 5 (02:58:27):
Up, yeah, yep he, said MEAN i JUST i just
got an email from. Him let me get that, ready m.

Speaker 2 (02:58:37):
Hmm.

Speaker 5 (02:58:39):
Yeah minute, here and we are creeping up on three
hours here, too so we're getting we're getting to be
a little bit long. Here let's see all, right here we.

Speaker 2 (02:58:53):
Go we hear? Nothing? David, Maybe oh you know?

Speaker 11 (02:59:08):
WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (02:59:09):
Know it's MY i need TO i need to restart
my browser.

Speaker 2 (02:59:14):
Here david can share it, Too, Yeah, Jeff jeff's having audio.

Speaker 5 (02:59:20):
Problems it never, ends, Man i'll be right, back all, Right.

Speaker 2 (02:59:24):
David, yes you want to just share? It you, can
you can share. IT i THINK i don't know JUST
i would Love, david do you hear?

Speaker 14 (02:59:33):
Those, Okay i'm not sure HOW i queue it. UP
i can play it on my, computer But i'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:59:50):
Sure, well let's wait Till jeff gets. Back he'll be
able to share. It just hang, on he'll be back.
Quick his computer reboots. Quick he he's already.

Speaker 5 (03:00:00):
Back, YEAH i just had to reach out my browser
here let's try.

Speaker 11 (03:00:05):
THAT i.

Speaker 2 (03:00:07):
Can't, yeah you even sound, Better, Jeff, YEAH i JUST
i don't. KNOW i got old audio for the whole.
Show sounds. Better suddenly we, here let's see if you
guys hear. This oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 (03:00:50):
You Hear.

Speaker 2 (03:00:51):
David, yeah.

Speaker 11 (03:00:54):
That's quite a, reaction.

Speaker 2 (03:01:10):
So. Strange, yeah it's apparently, eating and he's got it's
very close to the. Microphone it's. Eating they're At Bumpy.
Lake they're in a really good big foot.

Speaker 11 (03:01:20):
Area i've been there.

Speaker 2 (03:01:22):
Before, yeah, Yeah and then all of a, sudden that
kind of weird buzz hum comes, across and it's pretty
clear it's coming from whatever's eating, whoever who or whatever it.
Is we don't, know BUT i, mean it's just is
that anything at all like what you've? Heard?

Speaker 11 (03:01:41):
Uh, no that was? Subtle WHAT i heard was wasn't? Subtle,
well could you try to mimic it? SOMEHOW i can
tell you what it reminded me. Of it reminded me
of a big electric, drill not a little. One is
a definitely sounded mechanical.

Speaker 2 (03:02:01):
To, me like A dennis type, driller like, uh like
a big.

Speaker 11 (03:02:06):
Use like a big plug in half horse power. Drill
it was like a. Word that's.

Speaker 2 (03:02:17):
Similar, yeah that's still. Similar, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (03:02:21):
That's WHAT i was. THINKING i thought it was a.
Drill but Then i'm, like that can't be a. Drill
there's nothing out. HERE i mean out, here there was.
Nothing there's no, house there's no, power there's no, road
there was, nothing and it was right from that tree
that just got pushed.

Speaker 14 (03:02:36):
Down so, well just so you, Know, david it's not
exact every. Time there's always a little bit of variation
in the recordings That i've, got so, yes and that's
why IT'S i call it the hum buzz per because
people describe it sometimes as a, hum sometimes as a
buzz and and sometimes as a.

Speaker 11 (03:02:57):
Perr so you have something to do how far they're.
Projecting if it's, close.

Speaker 2 (03:03:01):
It, right almost like a parabolic. Reflector it's like coming
right into your body from far. Away if you've never
experienced the reverse of a parabolic. Microphone so you can
play sounds using parabolics and aim them at, somebody And
i've done, this SO i used to experiment a lot with.

(03:03:23):
It it's. Freaky you can have a couple of mile
away whispering and you could be having in your parabolic
thing and they can hear it just like it's right
next to. Them, wow through. Parabolics it's really. Interesting so
it does the opposite somebody had mentioned And i'm not.
Laughing he goes it Was brendan, goes is it possible

(03:03:45):
they're passing? Gas And i'm, like it's not such a you,
KNOW i haven't Heard have you ever heard of? It,
okay here's the weirdest question you're gonna get asked in
your whole, Life, david have you ever heard a report
of a bigfoot? PARTY i have.

Speaker 14 (03:04:03):
Not there you go must happen broke here on i'n
told radio we'll start hearing next.

Speaker 5 (03:04:12):
Week we wrap.

Speaker 11 (03:04:17):
IT i have before you, wrap just make SURE i.
WANT i got one story that.

Speaker 2 (03:04:21):
One, time please tell. It go.

Speaker 11 (03:04:22):
Ahead that changed everything for, me all, Right and it
changed it because it was early in my my my investigator.
Career it was like maybe my fourth REPORT i took
WHEN i was with the Bfol it happened In. Ocalla
the guy contacted me AND i got on the phone

(03:04:43):
with him and this happened to him when he was
twelve years old in or Near, Ocalla. Florida and they
lived on a piece of property and they had a
dog that used to run back and forth on a
line in the, backyard and he got up one morning
and the dog was acting up for like. Nights they
would bark all night, long and they were wondering what

(03:05:04):
the hell's wrong with the. Dog so he got it
one morning AND i had breakfast and his mother, said
take the garbage out to the back of the. House
SO i picked up the bag of, garbage and he,
said it was just getting light out wasn't completely. Light
BUT i bolted out of the back of the house
AND i got this garbage bag in my. Head i'm
headed to the big garbage bag or the big garbage.

(03:05:26):
Can and behind the, house he, SAYS i come around
the corner AND i see a bear bent over eating
out of the garbage the big garbage can That i'm headed.
To he, SAID i. Freeze he, SAID i don't make a.
SOUND i am frozen looking at this bear bent. Over
and then he, said all of a, sudden the bear
stops and it stands up on two feet and looks at,

(03:05:49):
him and he realizes this is not a. Bear it's
some kind of a huge hary. Man and then he,
said what do you say to? Me he, said and
THEN i JUST i just went to the house AND i, go, oh,
no he, said and then we locked eyes with one,
another locked, eyes and WHENEVER i heard, THAT i go,
AH i, goes, okay you know what happened when you locked?

(03:06:12):
Eyes and he got real, quiet AND i don't like
talking about. THAT i, said well's kind of. IMPORTANT i
like to know what happened when you locked.

Speaker 5 (03:06:20):
Eyes he.

Speaker 11 (03:06:21):
Said he, said you know, WHAT i JUST i. Don't
i'm not. COMFORTABLE i, said do me a. Favorite just
it's easier, sometime, Man just tell me the, email because
then you have the pressure of me what my reaction
is going to. Be just put in an, email send it.

Speaker 2 (03:06:34):
To, me nice.

Speaker 11 (03:06:35):
Guy so he sends. IT i get up the next,
morning then there's the email waiting in my box and
open it. Up i'm just, Look i'm just.

Speaker 5 (03:06:43):
New at this.

Speaker 11 (03:06:44):
RIGHT i don't have a whole lot of Pre i'm,
thinking we're looking on for an ape like everybody else.
Does when we're going to find it's just a. Monkey
we're going to find this. Thing SO i get this.
EMAIL i had to read it like three. Times i'm,
thinking what is the god's? Name and it said he walked,
out and he, says as soon AS i lock eyes with,

(03:07:05):
saying this thought just jams into my. Head he, Said
i'm twelve years. Old i'm just a. Kid there's no
WAY i thought this to. MYSELF i had no interest
in any of. This and he, said what was? Them
and saw.

Speaker 2 (03:07:21):
You in?

Speaker 11 (03:07:22):
Parentheses, man are not of this world. Planet that's how
we typed the. Email that is exactly what was jammed
in this kid's. Head you, man are not of this world.
Planet he, said that's. All that's all it jammed into
my brain and then just turned on or walked. Away
he said that had a profound effect on, me so

(03:07:46):
much so that from that point ON i deviated from my.
Family it affected me so. Deep my, family he, said
they Weren't they weren't very. Learned they weren't. Educated he,
said from that point, ON i couldn't. OPERATING i sucked
EVERYTHING i could about. Philosophy he sent. ME i don't
know how many books he sent, me The book Of

(03:08:08):
seth and he was, talking he, said in my, family
and we barely talk with me and my family because
in this instant took me way. Off on another, tangent he,
SAID i didn't ask for this to. HAPPEN i wished
it hadn't, happened BUT i think and secretly it changed him.
Profoundly BUT i had to read that sentence over and over.

(03:08:28):
Again you man are not of this world, planet and
that stuck with. Me by the. WAY i put that
in my report and it was, rejected AND i, Thought
i'm not telling you THAT'S i believe. It i'm just
telling you that's what he told, me and he certainly believes.

Speaker 2 (03:08:45):
It now now we're not.

Speaker 5 (03:08:47):
Going to do.

Speaker 11 (03:08:48):
THAT i was, like, man that's kind of, important, Right
but they weren't interested in And a's another piece of
information that will never get out to the public UNLESS
i tell the. Story it changed him. PROFOUNDLY i don't
know what you're, Muted. Doug you can put that where
we want to put.

Speaker 2 (03:09:06):
It there's people that claim mind, speak and that's obviously
the toughest thing to prove to, anybody you know WHAT i,
mean if you have a personal. Experience but who's to,
say you, KNOW i. WOULDN'T i wouldn't ever criticize anybody
when they claim, that because it's got to be weird

(03:09:29):
when it happens to.

Speaker 11 (03:09:30):
You, Right LIKE i, said if we ever live to
see the truth to, this WHICH i don't think we're going.
To it's gonna it's gonna be so, crazy it could
be so far. Out AND i think there are people
that know. That that's why we keep looking to the
government for, answers and we don't have.

Speaker 2 (03:09:49):
Anywer, well there's been some there's been some. Hints there's
been some, Hints, david from some people in the know
that same. Claim they've read like everything and they're, like
you don't want to know, exactly you don't want to.
Know it's too there's.

Speaker 11 (03:10:05):
SERIOUS i think there's the FURTHER i get into, this
the more there's validity that. STATEMENT i remember saying not
too long ago that it wouldn't surprise me if some
if it ever, happened if somebody said red in my,
EYE i, said, oh you want to know About? Bigfoot come,
Here and they took me, downtown set me in a
room and said we're gonna tell anything About. Bigfoot, here, here, here,
here this is. Everything NOW i go out and tell the, world,

(03:10:28):
yeah and you'd walk out, there you. GO i can't
tell anybody, this there's no. Way not only are they
not gonna believe, me it's too. Upsetting SO i think
that's really where we're at right. Now, yeah we get
if we get to nibble on the on the outskirts
the perimeters of this, mystery but if we ever like
actually submersion in, it we'd be, like, OH i don't
want any. Part this is way too. WEIRD i want

(03:10:50):
my whole life back where we'd.

Speaker 2 (03:10:52):
BE i think my, Opinion, well once, AGAIN i want
to state for. Myself i'm just open minded to anything.
Period i'm NOT i don't believe this or this or just.
Nothing i'm just open, minded WHICH i think is the
best place to be if you want to, learn you,
know you just. Listen you don't block, anybody you, know

(03:11:12):
you take it all in and make your own dayn
mind up based on your own your own. Experiences, Right
and where do you Stand david on all this this
open mindedness and what they are and what they could be.

Speaker 11 (03:11:27):
And talk About David Ellis David, Ellis, yeah where DO
i stand on?

Speaker 2 (03:11:32):
Yeah and all this? Craziness, Yeah WELL i come at
it from.

Speaker 14 (03:11:38):
Physical proof and well of course also with the. Audio you,
know that's a physical. Thing so that's my area of.
Interest but that doesn't mean that that's WHAT i. Believe,
right if you were to go back in my childhood
and my, youth you would have thought THAT i would
have been The king Of, wu just because that's what

(03:12:02):
interested me AS i was growing. Up every strange tale
in the Book i'd love to read about and love to.
Hear But I'M i just for as far As bigfoot is.
Concerned for, Me i'm looking for the physical, evidence and
that's that's just.

Speaker 2 (03:12:21):
What works for. Me and there's and there's a lot
of it, There, yeah.

Speaker 14 (03:12:25):
There, is there, Is but that doesn't mean that they
can't do other, things so, right that's kind of, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:12:34):
Oh it's trace. Evidence it's stuff that they leave. Behind you.
Know the footprints are very. Compelling, obviously any kind of
casting of an impression of movement is just you. Can't
you can't fake. It, it, really you. Can't you. Know
i'm working With i'm working on fingerprints and things like

(03:12:56):
that that are really you, know you can't fake YOU
i was talking about THREE d evidence with fingerprints because
they seem to it at, times leave a very weird white.
Substance have you ever seen, That david where a handprints
got like a whitish. Gray, yeah it's very very like like,

(03:13:19):
waxy very, thick and then you think about, It, well
there's got to BE dna in. There you've got, Layton
you've GOT, dna and you have the chemical compound of the,
sebum the skin oil or whatever that crap. Is there's
some chemicals. There what is? It and that's What i'm
aiming to get to the bottom of, it because it's

(03:13:40):
not a real uncommon, thing, right it really. Isn't so
tell me about what you've seen with that white. Stuff
do you have any memories of urges photos or what have.

Speaker 11 (03:13:52):
YOU i went to A carrol And Bill bridges home In,
florida spend the night in the. Property, man you talk
about some crazy. Stuff she was a worked for THE
fbi in their canine, department and the husband was an.
Architect very nice, people very well to, do very educated.

(03:14:14):
People and they had a white hamprint on their on
their uh, screen your port store the glass on their.
Door and she said it took her a while to
get that thing off. There WHAT i never, SAW i
only saw pictures of. IT i personally have never seen,
it But i've heard the stories of the white, residue

(03:14:37):
But i've never seen it. Before i've seen it on,
trucks pictures of it on trucks and.

Speaker 5 (03:14:41):
Whatnot.

Speaker 2 (03:14:43):
Windows you know what's. Interesting it just hit. Me i've
never had this thought. Before if there's a lot of you,
know truth to some of their abilities and, whatnot we
may not be able to tell from a dead.

Speaker 5 (03:14:57):
Body that's a good.

Speaker 2 (03:14:59):
Point so we still won't not learn, anything, Right, right
that's kind of a. Thought, RIGHT i just get these
diary of thoughts all the.

Speaker 5 (03:15:08):
TIME i actually a really good h that's a good
conclusion for.

Speaker 11 (03:15:12):
Sure, well here's here's an interesting observation that these things
have been seen In japan for hundreds of. Years they're
called pigabond In.

Speaker 2 (03:15:21):
Japan what do they call?

Speaker 11 (03:15:22):
Them? Higabond. Pigabond they've been seen In New zealand The
North island Near Cormorant, POINT i think is what they
call it In New. Zealand New zealand has no native land.
Mammals New zealand was broke off from The godwana from
the main, continent but it was mainly. Submerged only a

(03:15:44):
small sliver Of New zealand was ever above the. Sea
almost all of it ninety percent Of New zealand was
formed from volcanic. Activity that's why there's no native mammals
that live On New. Zealand but yet we have the
mohow man spotted in The North islands see many times
over hundreds of. Years and they're also in The. Philippines

(03:16:06):
it's called the copra in The. Philippines i've talked to
People i've vised the museum from The philippines and they
told me there's grandfather's stories about him gifting these, things
glowing eyes up in the, trees these huge hairy people
they call them the copper and The. Philippines so how
they can be in the island nations Of New, zealand

(03:16:27):
The philippines And?

Speaker 2 (03:16:30):
Japan, yeah in Olver, ASIA i Mean. China how do.

Speaker 11 (03:16:34):
We not have on an. Island Isn't japan Host they're
the biggest city in the, World. Tokyo they've been living
on the island for thousands of years and they don't
have a body or a specimen or a. Skeleton so
these are these are examples of strangeness that a lot

(03:16:55):
of people don't want to talk. About but how can
these things be at any man that is on the
island Of New zealand arrived there by.

Speaker 14 (03:17:03):
Ship, well, ACTUALLY i think they are much more ancient
being than we have an understanding for back when the
continents were reshaped and didn't look like what they look like,
now was an island wasn't an island if you go

(03:17:24):
back in ancient, history, Right SO i think that we're
dealing with something that's, very very, ancient and those way
more than we.

Speaker 11 (03:17:34):
DO i, Agree and it makes you, wonder how can
something that, old that's been here that long and exist here?
Now so we're not talking about t rex that died
out sixty million years. Ago we're talking about something that
was possibly here since the beginning of the continents pangee
Or god want or whatever you want to call, it

(03:17:54):
and exists all over the. World, now where are all
those bodies between then and? Now where's all those? Fileses
where's all those skeleton on the island? Nations so when people, say,
uh there's nothing supernatural about, This i'm, LIKE i don't
know what else is more? Supernatural and how can they
have been here? Then and they're here now by the

(03:18:17):
thousands on every continent and nobody has a, skeleton, nobody
nobody all and all THE i talked to the ladies
and so. On In, italy there's no skeletons In. Italy
i've they've spotted In, britain In germany And ireland they're
they're there as, well but nobody's got a skeleton or.
Body SO i don't know what could be more supernatural

(03:18:39):
just in the the the what do you call the
basis that we know that they. Exist there's shown to
say that. Exists they're observed all over the world and every, continent,
islands and nobody has a. BODY i find that very,
telling very, Interesting. David if you've.

Speaker 14 (03:19:03):
Seen the Movie Forbidden, planet, yes old sci fi movie
where The krell who had inhabited that planet used a
machine to increase their brain power and they invented through

(03:19:26):
THEIR id which is subconscious, monsters and they manifested them
in physical. Form are we dealing with something like that
where we have are manifesting these creatures With and that's
why there's so many different types and so many different.

Speaker 11 (03:19:48):
VARIATIONS i could go with that if people had observed
them eating or defecating on, themselves leaving, footprints just too
many physical. Properties that was.

Speaker 14 (03:20:00):
The thing that the power of the subconscious was creating
physical manifestations of a monster leaving footprints that they were following.
Finding but it also since it wasn't, real it could
disappear or go. Away we are we dealing with something

(03:20:26):
of that. NATURE i think he. KNOWS i, mean it's
just one of those things where we can throw things
at the wall all night long to see what.

Speaker 5 (03:20:35):
Sticks it just occurred to me that another explanation, is
what if they're incredibly long, lived if they live to
be three hundred years old and they only have one
or two, offspring that would explain a lot who, knows you,
KNOW i, mean that would explain why the lack of dead.
Bodies that would explain where's comparatively few older ones that are,

(03:20:57):
seen you, know that look older if they live three
for three or four hundred, years which is. Plausible that
thought has occurred to me as.

Speaker 11 (03:21:05):
Well there are they Stay back in the days Of,
noah people lived much longer than than they do. Now,
uh there's a biblical stories where they didn't live sixty
they Lived so, yeah, absolutely no strong.

Speaker 5 (03:21:21):
POSSIBILITY i, mean it would explain a lot of. Stuff
it would kind of it would kind of feel in
a lot of gaps of, answer a lot of.

Speaker 2 (03:21:28):
Puzzles, yeah pretty. Crazy all, right we got to.

Speaker 5 (03:21:32):
Go, yeah.

Speaker 11 (03:21:36):
Everybody's, bladders all three of you. GUYS i really appreciated
a great stimulating. Conversation that's.

Speaker 5 (03:21:43):
Great it was really, Fun.

Speaker 2 (03:21:46):
David and hopefully we can chat soon and share some more.
Stuff we can get you back. On you were welcome.
Back anytime you want to come on. Too you got
some crazy thing you want to tell, us please come
on and share.

Speaker 5 (03:22:01):
It stories for.

Speaker 2 (03:22:04):
You, well, yeah you can come on anytime you. Want just,
sorry come, on you don't have to stay for. Hours
i'm sorry about. THAT i really do. It just get into,
It jeff. Does, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:22:21):
Thank. You should you play a little wisdom quick?

Speaker 2 (03:22:24):
Here, yeah we're gonna do our wisdom with stand by.

Speaker 5 (03:22:26):
Everybody, standby would be right.

Speaker 7 (03:22:29):
Back it's now time For Untold Radio Am wisdom of the.
Week remember that the daily practice of kindness will transcend most,
barriers especially when combined with, gratitude, forgiveness, thoughtfulness and unselfish
work for. Others good night for all of us at

(03:22:49):
The Untold Radio.

Speaker 5 (03:22:50):
Network once, again and good wisdom From.

Speaker 2 (03:23:00):
Doug oh, yeah good night. Everybody we really appreciate our audience.
Tonight kind of nuts, Anyhow thanks so, Much, david just
awesome once again the Expedition Bigfoot museum In Blue, Ridge. Georgia,
uh and you have a phone number easy to. Find

(03:23:22):
just Look google you you'll come up your phone. Number,
yeah people can get directions. Again. Tomorrow somebody who works
With david will be On squatch and holler on The
Unhold radio network. Tomorrow i'm not sure exactly the, time
probably seven Pm Central and, uh we will talk to you. Soon.

(03:23:46):
David me And david talk all the. Time we're, like
we're like. BROTHERS i guess we're talking a. Lot but,
anyhow we love. Everybody, everybody have a, great safe rest
of the, week and we love.

Speaker 5 (03:23:58):
Y'all Good, night knight, Everybody good.

Speaker 11 (03:24:01):
Night jeff can call you up in the middle of the.

Speaker 3 (03:24:04):
Night been bothered by dreams and feeling all day you
give me, comfort say just give it some.

Speaker 1 (03:24:12):
Time by the end of.

Speaker 3 (03:24:14):
Our talk and feeling just fine you and have all
always no will we be long this sing no Ordinarysm
we got go in ALL i pick you up in

(03:24:34):
the fifteen Hour. Ford we head on top of the
road till we care for, it just you and the
sudden bowin if you acious.

Speaker 2 (03:24:45):
Stop allyver head on home.

Speaker 1 (03:24:47):
Again everybody has chancey will.

Speaker 8 (03:24:51):
We be long.

Speaker 5 (03:24:56):
In no ordinary.

Speaker 2 (03:24:58):
Ism we got go in all.

Speaker 8 (03:25:02):
At the end of the world together forever is wall
and our.

Speaker 11 (03:25:08):
Way if ever you.

Speaker 12 (03:25:09):
Should be in town in our.

Speaker 2 (03:25:11):
Prey they never can.

Speaker 8 (03:25:13):
Put us apart in all way for a time we
would be together every. Day BUT i know it never
would be less straight.

Speaker 1 (03:25:27):
Up on my way back home To shugay.

Speaker 2 (03:25:49):
At the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (03:25:51):
Together forever small than our.

Speaker 2 (03:25:54):
Way if ever you.

Speaker 3 (03:25:56):
Should be in town and compry in there composed a part.

Speaker 11 (03:26:02):
In norway.

Speaker 3 (03:26:05):
At the end of the world together.

Speaker 2 (03:26:08):
Forever refund In norway thegether you should be in town in.

Speaker 8 (03:26:14):
Always they never composed a part in our.

Speaker 2 (03:26:18):
Way one the time when.

Speaker 8 (03:26:22):
We beg, together we never recame a. Handos they never
should be less straight than.

Speaker 13 (03:26:29):
All from the way back go To, dalgain

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Fudd Around And Find Out

Crime Junkie

24/7 News: The Latest

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Untold Radio AM #256 Strange Sides of The Bigfoot Mystery with David Bakara

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Fudd Around And Find Out

Crime Junkie

24/7 News: The Latest

All Episodes

Untold Radio AM #256 Strange Sides of The Bigfoot Mystery with David Bakara

Fudd Around And Find Out