Untold Radio AM #264 New Bigfoot FOIA Documents Are Shocking with Eric Palacios

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Looking back on the life that you leave him then
rested a hole in the crowd, stick around through the crane.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
The feeling who are the fire?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You'll be dancing around on hearing the sound of treating
and no one cares where he's coming from.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
My ears is no radi and feeding.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I guess me.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm new from the starts goes up.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Tonight's guest is big Foot Foy expert.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
You know one of these days will be the World.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Lancers go.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
It's Sasky test my my, the.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
Fuse of the ashes, the spirits that I having.

Speaker 8 (01:35):
Down the else We're life from the Untold Radio Network.
It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug
Hicheck and co host Jeff Parrella Jr. Untold Radio Am
is going live right now. This show is for entertainment

(02:06):
purposes only.

Speaker 9 (02:08):
Yep, that's the ticket.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Now Here are your Untold Radio Am hosts, Doug Hicheck
and Jeff Parrella Jr.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Here we are Hello. Hey, could you have that change too?
Here's what's left of our Untold Radio hosts. We both
had We both had a week, didn't we.

Speaker 9 (02:34):
Yeah, that's fair to say.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Welcome everybody. It might be a little thin on audience,
but maybe not. Things got out of hand today and
they couldn't get any of the invites out and all
that stuff. So we'll see, they'll fight us, they'll find us.
They're gonna have to find us on your own. But anyhow,
so tonight we have back for the whole show. Eric,

(03:02):
I can never say his last name. Eric's a friend
and I can't say his last name. That what does
that say about me?

Speaker 9 (03:08):
You're a terrible friend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
By the way, By the way, your mic sounds weird.
I don't think your MIC's actually on. I think your mic.
You're using your computer mic? Pretty sure? Yeah, all yours
room noise, that's weird. I mean, tap on your mic.
This is how you talked. Tap on your mic, Tap
on it. Yeah, see, no sound, your MIC's not on.

(03:33):
You might have to go in and make sure you've
picture now it's on, all right. Yeah, it's a big
difference when your MIC's on versus when it's not.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
No, I didn't change anything.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Look, there are electrical grumblins that come in when you're
sleeping and hems me like almost every day.

Speaker 10 (03:56):
You are.

Speaker 9 (03:56):
You are a magnet for that stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Magnet for that I don't know what it is. I
just it's where a little gremlin's come in and just
mess up all your settings at night. It's weird anyhow,
So we're gonna go deeper into Eric's UH foil work.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
Yeah, and we're gonna revisit.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, we're gonna revisit one of the greatest I think
one of the greatest mysteries I've ever seen. We're gonna
we're gonna visit a bigfoot cage somebody built underground with
a about a one ton door on it. And I'm
not joking.

Speaker 9 (04:31):
Yeah, it's pretty wild and it's up a mountain.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
How. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna talk about it, show
pictures of it again. I'm sure a lot of people
have not seen this. But first we're gonna mention a
couple of things. UH One, you can join me and
Jeff up at the Timberlake Lodge. Yep, we'll be up
Friday and Saturday, But anybody wants to stop by and

(04:56):
say hello and buy tickets to get into the Minnesota
a Bigfoot conference hosted by the UH. I call him
Abbe none other than Abel Rio, one and only Abel
Rio of the Minnesota Bigfoot research team and we'll be

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up there and we're bringing up Carl up who's a speaker.

Speaker 9 (05:20):
I believe that'd be cool. He's a great guy looking.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
For you and you get to pick him up at
the airport. You got you got two guys coming in
from Arizona.

Speaker 9 (05:32):
What's up with that at different times? Of course? Yeah,
of course.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Want to. Yeah, we wouldn't want it to be right
next to each other. We wouldn't want him to take
the same flight. That would be too hard. Okay. Anyhow,
so we'll be up there Friday Saturday, and you know,
if you want to stop buying Jeffle buy drinks, I
will joking like PEPSI sure, yeah something, But get your

(06:02):
tickets for that. And then also, the New York Big
Book Conference is coming this weekend due and we can't
make that because it's so far away and we're committed
to this one. But you can still get tickets, I'm sure.
And that's this weekend and go to the New York
Big Book Conference website and there you can find all

(06:24):
the information. Say what else do we have here going on? Oh,
we have another announcement to which you know, really sad,
and that is Jane Good All has passed, but at
the ripe old age of ninety one, which she's had
a very long, beautiful one. Oh man, her life is.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
Amazing and a hype person.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, let me let me read a little bit of
the official release. It says good olds Field research change
the understanding of human's closest relative, obviously the chimpanzee. She
spent sixty years studying chimps in Tanzania and so and

(07:10):
then of course her Goodall Institute has kind of become worldwide.
In fact, I got a personal tour by Jane and
Joe picked her up at the airport, and I'm trying
to remember why we were there. We were there because
I'm a board member of the North American Bear Center
with doctor Lynn Rogers, and Jing Goodall is also on

(07:33):
the board. Oh and so that's kind of how that
all got arranged. They didn't just like call me out
of the blue and they picked me up of the
air It was a formal planned thing. And so we
picked her in her secretary up and they were just
that was really a wonderful day, just spending the whole

(07:54):
day with her.

Speaker 9 (07:55):
Oh yeah, that's incredible. She's I'm just an amazing person
just so accomplished and added a lot to humanity. She
just really changed the world in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
She was so warm, Jeff. She would hold her hands,
not for support, but just because she was just that
kind of a loving person. Yeah, she was just so kind.
But so I'm honored that I got to meet her
and hang out with her for a day.

Speaker 9 (08:20):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But she was only twenty six years old when she
first entered Tanzania and began her important research on chimpanzees
in the wild.

Speaker 9 (08:33):
So there was Yeah, I think about that way back
then too, that that was no easy feet just to
get there and be in you know, to be in
the bush there was Yeah, not exactly easy.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, not at all. Now it'd be I mean I
don't think I have the guts to do what she did, No,
not at all. I mean chimpanzees, wild chimps can be
quite quite scary dangerous. Yeah, yeah, and they are dangerous,
and she had away with them. She really did obviously.
I mean, you shouldn't die of, you know, a chimp attack.

Speaker 9 (09:03):
I remember watching the epic shows when I was a kid.
Just so cool stuff that she did.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
But they say that she is and they hope by
this that she is the most famous, well known person
in the entire world. Oh and I didn't know that,
but they say you can show a picture of her
anywhere in the world and they will tell you her name,
unlike any pop stars or actors or whoever. And I thought,
what an honor to be spent the whole day with

(09:30):
the most famous person in the world.

Speaker 9 (09:33):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 10 (09:34):
That is.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh my god. It was funny too, because you know,
Joe obviously he's so, He's kind of cute in his
own right, and Jane was old in his end, and
I think I mentioned that to him. You know, she
went off to go look at a painting or something.
We're at this art gallery and Joe goes, huh and

(09:58):
this is a little giggle and yeah, that's Joe. But
me she rest in peace, as yeah, what else do
we have?

Speaker 10 (10:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, you know, all this of course reminds me how
I took Jeff Jeff Meldrum, granted you take I took
even Jane goodall.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
You know, you think people are going to last forever.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, we do, And you know, we we idolize certain
people and then we just think they're going to last forever.
They're just permanent. They're not going anywhere, and it's just
not true. And that made me realize, oh, okay, I
did that tribute. Whether you liked it or hated it,
I did that tribute for Jeff, and I thought, you

(10:43):
know what, I'm going to do a tribute for the
four Horsemen. And I did that and I posted it
on Facebook and it's got like five thousand views. People
seem to like it. And I thought, well, I'm going
to do one for Roger and Bob Gimmelin because they
really deserve it too. And Bob's still alive. Maybe maybe
with a little luck and a prayer, Bob will be

(11:04):
able to get to watch it. Yeah, somebody knows him.
And Russ. I'm gonna send it to Russ. But the
file is six hundred and sixty five megabytes.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Yeah, I had. I had to lower the resolution quite
a bit to get it to get it to upload.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, so it's huge. It's a huge file. So I
couldn't just like email it to Russ or anything. So
I'm gonna send him a link tonight and hopefully Bob
can just you take a look at it. Maybe Bob
will hate it. I don't know, but I wanted to do.
It was from my heart. I do know Bob. I
even got to travel with Bob down to Bluff Creek
for his first time he'd ever been back, and that

(11:41):
meant a lot to me. John Green was there and
it was it was really cool. Man Moneymaker was there,
Daniel Perez, Autumn Williams. I believe Bobo was there. I'm
trying to think it was kind of a whole entourage. Oh,
Dmitri Bano was there and he was really cool. He
had it up leaving with me. Then our in our

(12:03):
motor home that we were touring the country doing uh
my serious encounters and I just said, hey, come on
with and he's from Russia and he's like, oh my god,
and he just had the best time. He joined us
on all these film shoots, and then eventually I had
to bring him into Canada somewhere I think British Columbia
and drop him off so we could fly home. And

(12:26):
I remember just how thankful he was.

Speaker 10 (12:29):
He was amazing.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm changing the topic, so let's we can go ahead
and play that if you have it. I don't know
what rest did you end up getting. Oh gee, so
people yeah, understand this was.

Speaker 9 (12:48):
File.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, it's all done. Yeah, it's all done in actually
four K. But we're going to watch it and roll res.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
But go ahead and play it all right, here we go.

Speaker 11 (13:00):
Well, all rustle.

Speaker 12 (13:07):
Your amazing footage and great efforts now filmed well over
twenty one.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
A thousand days ago.

Speaker 9 (13:17):
This is for you.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Your success will never be funny.

Speaker 13 (13:24):
Hit it Hona Sonia Utumn Day. In sixty seven, a
myth was defined with luck.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
They carried the whole Kodak for the word.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
Tracking deep foot prints in the ancient Californiia pints, a
vision burned through bluff creeks.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Rose trail line. Roger and Bob saddle up to get
just one more.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Strack for a creature known by sketches the stories.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
The world called a nine five ball fame on the road.
A shadow in the.

Speaker 14 (14:11):
Team striding in the sun, so called it a horse.
Both swell the fil remains a legend was captured in
just nine hundred and fifty four frames.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Out from the long pile.

Speaker 15 (14:32):
Of bluff creek, she stepped out and showed us her glory.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
A huge stride so strong sleep Roger hit the dirt
as his horse spun and bucked away.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
His practiced hand found the camera that day.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
A Paddy move with power.

Speaker 12 (14:52):
Muscles ripple below, a strange anatomy.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
In each motion she showed, and my.

Speaker 12 (15:02):
Gate revealing helps throwing in with shop ooo ooo. Each
stepso and Kenny. Her knees never locked him, and she turned.

Speaker 13 (15:15):
Her face Bob by steadies and why had let she
measured his rifle.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Head after the side.

Speaker 12 (15:20):
Well she leading the month down the creeks, winding way
of God in secret.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
She never betrayed Roger sixteen millimeter, just.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Filled the way nine five four frames a minute on
the road, a shadow in the tamber, and shred it
in the sun. Some call it a hoax.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
Most sweated the truth from me, and a legend was
captured just nine hundred and seventy four frames.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
When the woods fell quiet, they stood in the sand,
measured the stride Paul plaster by hand prints in the
creek bed. The story to say. Paddy kept walking unbound
and nine ingrad a moving image. The curious people craved,

(16:24):
why did she walk where the river runs wide? Why
glance at Bob with the rifle at his side? Was
it proofing the lens or a trick of the game.
Still the world keeps turning to those nine hundred and
fifty four frames.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
They thought they could cover it, just do it again.

Speaker 7 (16:49):
But the moment was gone. Did it still remains?

Speaker 16 (16:55):
The scowls and skeptics the filmment who or all left
bewilders by what Patty news.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Roger left her surly his dream cut down. Bob now
bore the laughter, the scorn of the town, but his
word never wavered, his courage.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Intact a hero of honesty.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
No one can attack nine five four fames. The film
still survived in the bak of a nine letters, now.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Truly alive.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Through the whispers of down and the laughter round blame beforeest.
The world and Bob will never be the same.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
We will.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Remember this.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Nine hundred and fifty.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Four fame.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
That was awesome. Where Doug go, I'm hereous, I'm here,
here we are? That was great? Anyhow, Yeah, we going
to take speaking of taking for granted, if you're lucky
like I am, to have your parents call your mother,
call your mother, tell her that you love her. I'm
gonna call my tomorrow. It'll be too late tonight, but
she'll probably be watching this tomorrow. But Mom, I love you.

(18:55):
I'll call you tomorrow, I promise.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that's so true. You know, we just take people
for granted, absolute especially the elderly, you know, people like
me joking. I'm not elderly, I am. I'm thinking. I'm thinking, Jeff,
you could be my kid. It scares me. Yeah, I

(19:17):
got kids older than you anyhow, But I do and
I do feel bad because I never got to say
goodbye to Jeff.

Speaker 9 (19:25):
Well, nobody knew who was going. Sad just.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Kills me every day, all right, So what else do
we have? Let's go ahead in and do our little fast.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
And weird, weird and fast.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Is it weird and fast or fast and weird?

Speaker 9 (19:43):
I believe it is weird and fast. Okay, I got
to remember that weird fast.

Speaker 10 (19:54):
It's time for weird and fast.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
Knees, weird and fast.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
That wasn't weird and fast?

Speaker 10 (20:01):
All right.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So apparently a snake or lizard, some kind of fossil
that had the properties of both was uncovered and it
was just uncovered in in Scotland, So it's a new
Scottish fossil of the Bregna there. And then there's there's
the second word there, ego lenses how do I do? Sure, Yeah, okay,

(20:30):
that's good. It mixes a snake like jaws and lizard limbs,
blurring the Squamet family tree, so they don't know really
what category to put it in.

Speaker 9 (20:43):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I think it's interesting. It's kind of kind of boring.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, this is there's actually not a whole lot of
transitionary fossils. That's actually kind of one of the issues
with theory evolution is that there's not a whole lot
of there's just not a lot of transitionary fossils. You
get one species for a long long long time, they're
gone that in those species for a long, long long time. Yeah,
evolution isn't evolutionary. There's not there's not a gradual change.

(21:12):
It's all plateaus.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, I remember when they used to call Bigfoot the
missing link. Yeah, that was always the term you always heard,
if we could only find the missing link, you know,
Bigfoot's the missing link. And I remember that carnival display
of the Minnesota Iceman. I think they had on their
the missing link, you know. So there you go. The

(21:37):
word bigfoot wasn't kind of in style when I was young.
What else we've gotten weird and fast news we have.
Apparently Mars rocks are now telling a story, and apparently
they have for sure uncovered a lake that maybe had life,

(21:59):
and course you and I know that life.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
Of course it did most likely.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, it's like the chances of it didn't have life
are far bigger than it did. So apparently Perseverance found
munthstones with minerals tied to organic processes in the zero
Bright Angel area flagged is the strongest sign yet of

(22:26):
ancient Martian life. Apparently confirmation awaits sample return, So they're
doing DNA or whatever. I don't know what they're doing,
but Mars has been singing about life as far as
I know, since I was a little kid. Yeah, it's like,
do you remember when they all they thought they were

(22:46):
like canals? Maybe too young, but when I was really young,
Martian canals.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yep, that was Lowell that did a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The art.

Speaker 9 (23:02):
Yeah, he did drawings of uh remember somebody in chat
correct me. I want to say his personal lull that
drew all the maps of the canals and was the
first one to really look at it.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I remember my sister, older sister reading a book on
the canals on Mars when I was a little going.
Oh so you know, when I hear stuff like this,
it's just the anti climatic to me. Anyhow. Next, and
apparently speed of Mars three I Atlas passed near Mars,

(23:35):
and that's this interstellar comet flyby that some claim and
still claim it could be a craft.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Yeah so I don't know, unlikely, but who knows.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And apparently there's a bigfoot on the craft. You see
the big foot there in the car.

Speaker 9 (23:52):
Yeah, that's an actual picture.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, that was my little touch there.

Speaker 9 (23:59):
Anyhow, that's what they forgot here. Bigfoot came here in
a comic, doesn't every Didn't everybody know that? I thought
that was came from Mars somewhere, he wrote a comic
landed landed in the Pacific Northwest, and then killaway.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
A latest eruption ended. Apparently it started, was really powerful
and then ended. And apparently this uh eruption fired, you know,
another short but very spectacular burst overnight. Fountains topped four
hundred meters, but all the lava and everything stayed within

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the crater. So there you go. That's a real picture too.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Actually, that's an actual photograph. And there's big foot there.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yes, Yeah, it's kind of like, where's Waldough. Yeah, I
may put a I may put a big foot in
every single weird and Fast news.

Speaker 9 (24:52):
I think you should just to confuse people. I like it.
That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's kind of cute. Didn't let's see here, we're done
with the Kilauea. And then apparently this is kind of
interesting twelve thousand year desert gallery. They found life sized
carvings and phone. Apparently archaeologists dated enormous rock engravings of

(25:21):
camel's gazelle's in northern Saudi Arabia in presence back further
by another millennia once again.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
And that there was a big foot on there too.
I'm sure of it. It's just stop.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I forgot to put it on there. I should have.
I should have been I should have engraved it on
the on the rock wall.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Again, it's an actual photograph.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
It's an actual true photograph. Oh my god. Okay, next,
I'm slap happy today. Apparently the Mama bite, now they've
figured out, has a two step toxin in it. So

(26:04):
you got phase one and they got phase two, and
apparently it's kind of unique, I guess to the mamba bite.
They wanted to book by a mamba. I'm sure, Jeff,
you got mamas living in your yard, right.

Speaker 9 (26:22):
Let's hope not. That's a dangerous snake.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I gotta just get to tell this story real quick.
I was on a plane on my way to Belize
and I had been warned that the verdolances will get
you and kill you, okay, And I kept hearing that
from people like be careful, you know when you're walking
through the jungle, and blah blah blah. It was going
down with the Prime Minister of Archaeology to explore caves

(26:47):
that had never gone in in Belieze. It was also
a great honor and I was filming for a Discovery
Channel and it was one of the scariest craziest. I
would put it in the category of Indiana Jones app
I ever did to be able to shine a flashlight
on skeletons covered with calcite that had been seen in

(27:08):
a thousand years. I was the first human to see him.
I was pretty cool. But anyhow, so I'm on the
plane and there's a gentleman that sits next to me,
and you know, of course we're talking, and I said, well,
where you know where you're going, I'm going you know,
I'm going to uh belize and blah blah blah, I'm
going to my sister's funeral. And I said, well, what happened?

(27:31):
How did she pass? And he goes, she was bit
by a fair to lance. Oh wow, I'm sitting with
the guy and I'm like, okay, I better be careful.
That was kind of a sign, right, be careful. All right,
So let's see here. Apparently you can even have to
get the anti venom. The black mamba can reveal a
second wave of neurotoxicity and then yeah, it'd get you out.

(27:56):
So don't don't get bit by a mamba.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Important safety tip. Thanks, Yes, it's.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
A public service the message almost and then the weird
fact of the week, weird Fact of the weirdest s
I'm waiting.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's now time for untold radio weird Fact of the week.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That is kind of weird.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
Now the weird fact of the week, Yes, Doug, I check.

Speaker 17 (28:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Anyhow, throw that weird fact up. This is on the
snapping pistol shrimp and how it's slams sitting on here.
I got to get this up. I can't even read it. Slams.
It's oversized claw it's got one claw and it slams
it shut it, which shoots a gent of water that

(28:55):
creates cap captive Kevin again, catation. Yeah, cavitation, that's easy
word to say. We have that going on. And that
was that Monday. We had cavitation going out. Number of
the boat was going really slow. That's my cavitation. Yes,
And apparently these bubbles suddenly collapse and it briefly reaches

(29:20):
extreme temperatures. I've heard almost the temperature of the sun,
which makes no sense to me how a bubble in
the water can reach such high temperatures. It gets so
hot it produces a flash of light, and the flash
of light is called is called that's your huge jess

(29:40):
to make a fool out of yourself, and that's good job. Uh.
And it creates a shock wave strong enough to stun
its prey.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
Yeah, pretty cool. I'm sea get us of that. Yeah,
a little little flash. It's loud. It's super loud'st shrimp.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, it's like a little gun going off. Actually it
actually he.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
Does it as it sounds like a cap gun. It
sounds like, yeah, report from a gun. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And the next up, Adam Colt doesn't have a report.
We're going to bring Adam on, but we've decided to
to forego it for other reasons we'll talk about later.
But he was going to come on and show us
some footage. He just got back from Alabama. I joined
Chris Reinhardt, our own Chris Reinhart down there. They went

(30:29):
down to uh highly bigfoot active area and then Adam
camped alone in the land between the lakes cool and
I said, are you scared? And he goes a little bit.
I was talking about he's in his tent. He goes
a little bit. I'm thinking, Okay, I bet it's a lot.

(30:53):
All right. Then we have clip picks. Now, these are
all kind of on the lighter end, right, I'm trying
to keep the this week a little lighter.

Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah, we've had a couple of heavy weeks. Let's keep
it light.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, let's keep it light. So these are all on
the lighter side. And so let's go ahead and you
can do whatever you gotta do on hands in the air.
All right, there you go, all right? Clip one, sound

(31:27):
is good. Do not carry a mirror like this, Jeff,
do not do it.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
Anyhow that looks fun.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, don't do that because you could drop it, giggles
and drop the mirror. You have seven uh yeah, seven
years of bad luck. All right? Clip two, no sound,
no sound. This is a really fun Halloween project. If
anybody wants to do this, stick yourself in a jar.
So you photograph yourself with your face pressed against the

(32:09):
glass or your nose or your cheek, your lips or whatever,
and then you print it on your printer and then
you put it in there. Actually, you can go one
step further. You can spray it with some kind of
like waterproof clear coat and then add green water to
it or some you know, brown water to it and

(32:30):
then put it in the fridge. It looks like yeah,
you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, So there you go.
Have fun. Somebody's going to do that in our audience.
You know who's going to do it. It'll be flat Rockland.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
And then he's gonna show us next week. That's my guess.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
Yeah, if you do it. If you do it, send
me a picture.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, anybody send it in we'll show.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
It shirt next week facing a jar.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Stick your email. All right. That next clip is about
how women read compared to how many men read. But
sounds good.

Speaker 10 (33:11):
Aerating. Everything is iterated. Anybody who won.

Speaker 11 (33:14):
Up element have dreams, got got you, you had you,
you you could you do.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, that's exactly how Jeff reads. I know because he
read me a story once, right, Jeff, I'm kidding. Anyhow,
my gosh, what else do we got? We've got a
next is a pumpkin idea. You can do a check
engine light pumpkin, which I thought was really cute. There

(33:53):
you go the check engine light, you got a battery warning,
you got thermal thermal stay that warning, oil warning, and
the regular old check engine light.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
That's pretty clever. That's that's for you, Jeff, that's pretty clever.

Speaker 10 (34:07):
Know what you do?

Speaker 18 (34:08):
You'd put a Moto goozy code on your pumpkin. Anyhow,
you should almost tell that. We should almost tell that story.

Speaker 9 (34:20):
Kind of happened.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Let's resolve it first and then we'll tell the story.

Speaker 9 (34:23):
All right, we'll fix the problem and I'll tell the
story because it's funny. Long saga of the Motoui. It's
the expensive Italian paper weight in my garage.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
It's not funny yet, but it will be.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
Yeah, can be talking.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
About it for years.

Speaker 9 (34:39):
It's been a year, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, okay, okay, this is okay. The next clip is
when the doctor tells you your sugar level is too high.
Your to lower. He tells you to lower your sugar. Watch,
SoC how you do it? There you go, she's lower.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah. By the way, did you know I used to
work in an orange juice company.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
You didn't know that?

Speaker 8 (35:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh, I got canned?

Speaker 9 (35:16):
Yes? Nice? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
No, you know why I got canned because I couldn't concentrate.

Speaker 9 (35:27):
Uh huh, it's true.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
All right, what do we got there? Let's see your
I can't even I'm so tired, I can't even find
my place. Clip six. This is what yes, good men do,
wholesome good men do to entertain themselves.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
This is funny.

Speaker 9 (36:00):
Oh my god, they're having fun.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You know what's funny about that. I was in the
car with two girls ones and they were doing that,
making the little fart noises with the water out the window.
I thought, okay, so sold some good fun, all right? Uh?
Clip seven? Sound as good? Are there any jokes about ants?

(36:30):
Here's one another? Five ants? Now they are ten ants.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
Tenants, dad jokes.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
It was pretty bad, all right. The next one is
a very creative use of shadows. I thought this was
this is definitely my clip of the week pick. It
would be my number one pick, and shadows can be funny.
Go ahead and watch this.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
Ringing sound effects kind of add to it too.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Who does that?

Speaker 9 (37:11):
I bet there was beer involved. I would have to
if if they had to make a bet, I'm guessing
there's some empty bottles of beer behind them. You think so,
that's a pretty safe bet.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I think Rogers's boo. Okay, let's see er hold on.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
Clip nine next.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I can't even count to ten tonight. Clip nine sounds good.
This is a this is a strange costume, but it's oh,
it is creative, and it just it struck me funny.
I cracked up. I don't know what.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
Can magine having on the road and see a couple
of idiots doing that on the side of the road.
And again, I would bet that there's beer involved in that,
in that whole process, there was some beer involved.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It looks pretty real though.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I sent it to a vet and she goes All
she said was nope, I don't know what that meant.
All right, Uh, clip ten. The sound is good. Since
we're talking about mars. Uh is this an ancient artifact
or just nature? Put the sound out? What say you, Jeff?

Speaker 9 (38:37):
Pretty weird?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Kind of interesting, doesn't it?

Speaker 9 (38:40):
But yeah, you can do all kinds of stranger.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, can I know? Never know? That's what.

Speaker 9 (38:45):
One more bonus clip?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh we have a bonus clip.

Speaker 9 (38:48):
Yes, that's right, last minute bonus clip.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Sometimes delays are actually meant to save your life.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
Go ahead, right, yikes.

Speaker 19 (39:07):
Yeah, that wasn't a bird, that was an angel. That's
crazy and you just got your life saved. Yeah, wow, Garry,
that is all right.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
We are ready, I think to bring on.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
Eric Eric, who was politely waiting backstage for us.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Politely wave if you're polite, Eric, he said, he's all right. So, uh,
let me just tell you a little bit about Eric.
I think Eric is a true journalist, right, he just
doesn't He's not a surface guy. He digs deep. He's
a filmmaker. He's a journalist. He's seeking the truth behind

(39:53):
every door he can think of. And he has currently
been obsessed in working on foil requests. And I think
he's a foya maniac at this point, which is great.
You remember the website, the Black Volt. Have you ever
gone to it. He was a fat yad. He's got
this crazy giant website because he would just do request.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
I've read a lot of that stuff, though, I've been
a lot of deep dives into the weird documents and
interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's interesting anyhow. So he is searching for the truth.
He does far more than most mainstream reporters by far.
He's got a film out that was picked up by
Amazon called The Beast of Brushy Creek. There it is.
I almost said the Breast of Brushy Creek. That's how

(40:47):
tired I am. Yes, and we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about his current new stuff. We'll
just talk about anything we get out of him. Let's uh.
I don't have you ever anything to play before we
bring them on.

Speaker 9 (41:02):
I do one second here, all right, and welcome Eric. Hello,

(41:24):
there he is.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
By the way, Eric, can I read the definition of
a foyer? I don't know. I don't think I hated
to just like spring that on you out of the blue.
I know you know what it means. But so, a
foyer request is a written request to a federal executive
branch a branch agency asking for access to existing agency records.

(41:50):
And so by law, the agency must release the records
unless they fall under one of foya's exemptions. National security, law,
enforcement sensitivity. That's kind of a broad one, right Eric.
Personal privacy that's another broad one, trade secrets, and deliberate,

(42:12):
deliberate process. I don't even know necessarily what they're inferring there,
but let's just talk about for you and what you've
been doing.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
And you got the mic man for sure.

Speaker 10 (42:25):
There's also a universal one that kind of just kills
everything where it stands, and that's the hippa exemption, which
is like a medical thing. So as soon as someone
claims hippa, it's it's dead in the water. You're not
gonna get any type of information. But no, I've I've
I'm kind of right there with you, Doug. I'm fighting
something right now, so hopefully I'll be able to have

(42:48):
the energy. But but yeah, I know I've been doing
a bunch of four year requests. A lot of that
stuff is going to be in my new book that
actually released on Saturday. It's a Bigfoot that redacted truth.
Oh wow, And I mean I'd like to go over
some of that stuff with you guys. Live. Yeah, a
lot of stuff that people have never.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
By the way, I need to interrupt you only because
this book is going to be big. I really think
it will be big, big because people are after like
what's hidden from us? Are there is the government covering
up stuff? And what I had found out years ago
and I want to shut up, is that it was

(43:31):
I definitely knew the local agencies were they.

Speaker 10 (43:36):
Yeah, I mean I think from some of the stuff
we're gonna see tonight, it's I really don't think there's
any other explanation, you know, unless it's some type of
you know, effort that's going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (43:49):
But yeah, I mean I've sent you guys some stuff.
There is some stuff that I'm not sure if you
want to talk about, because I mean we might get
into some trouble tonight. Looking at some of these reports,
they are like officially like unclassified at this point. Some
of this stuff, the older stuff took me over a
year to get going through FBI stuff. Again, we mentioned

(44:12):
like local state. I have a lot of local state
information coming from different counties I've done. They're not necessarily
four your requests. Every state has their own type of
like Follia Law, Ohio has the Sunshine Law and there's
other laws like that, so I kind of had to
construct separate full your requests. I wasn't able to use
like a blanket folia for all these so I kind

(44:34):
of crafted each one specifically for information that I was after.
And my book really just compiles over about three years
of investigation doing rereadom of Information Act requests all over
the country. And I think if anybody watched last week,
we kind of touched on that unidentified bone that we found. Doug.

(44:55):
I know I sent that to you and you were
kind of looking into that. So that's that's you know,
i'd like to maybe we can talk about that a
little later on. But that's just some of the stuff
that I'm beginning from that uh Freedom Information Act project
that I've been working on. It's yeah, I think it's
pretty amazing stuff. And and Jeff, I'm not sure if
you're like a you know, believer quote unquote or not,

(45:17):
but i'd like to I think after you see some
of the stuff, a lot of people might start leaning
towards that. Because I necessarily wasn't one of those type
of people. But after doing these four yeer requests, man,
it's just you see patterns of stuff going on. It
just no explanation, defies what we would consider, you know,

(45:37):
plausible or things that you know out of the ordinary.
It's interesting stuff. So if you have some of those slides,
we can go over. Or do you want to talk
about the the Bigfoot Cave first?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Do that last, because that's such a that thing is.
I've been thinking about that for two years to this day.
I cannot come up with any lodge goal explanation that
if it wasn't somebody who was obsessed with the big
Foot topic and built it weird many many years.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
It's so weird because you look at that structure and
doing the research I actually found there's also a stone
face carved in a county hall it doesn't exist anymore.
It's called Cleo County. And there's also a similar looking
face star carved into a stone in this area, and
the Native Americans referred to that as like you know,
the like the bear man is what they would call

(46:34):
it the local people. And if you follow that, the
Brushy Creek and Bear Creek they intersect at one point,
and the Brushy Creek is not far and off from
this area where this this thing was found.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So first off, people can get the book, right, they
could order it.

Speaker 9 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, actually right now, thank you.

Speaker 10 (46:56):
Cool.

Speaker 9 (46:57):
Just heard a copy right now while while you were talking.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
See, I knew he was doing stuff behind behind, behind
the scenes. I just knew it. Okay, anyhow you're shopping Amazon.

Speaker 10 (47:09):
Yeah, that's on Amazon.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
I been working on it for a few years now,
and I mean it's my first book, so it's not
gonna be perfect. I kept delaying it. I was trying
to get out by summer, but I kept getting information
in because before your request, yeah, it could take months.
You know, you never know when you're gonna get it.
So I kept getting stuff so I had to kind
of delayed a little bit. But it's out now, so
I you know, if anybody's interested.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
That's that's up, great, up my alley. I love reading
that kind of stuff. I started I read years ago,
I like everybody, you know, thanks to art Bell, I
started digging into all kinds of crazy documents and yeah,
there's some Like you said, if you read enough of
that stuff, it kind of makes a pattern and it
kind of paints a picture of there's something going on here.

(47:54):
It's it's it's worth looking into it's interesting. I'm looking
forward to your reading your book. That's cool.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
I think some of this stuff is it's it's it's
pretty close. I don't know. I want to say smoking gun,
but godly, I mean, what's the other explanation for this stuff?
And you know, we'll go over some of this here,
and I think you guys will. It's crazy. I mean,
some of this stuff was on email servers that was
never meant to reach the public. Nobody knew this was
ever going to get out. So they're they're talking freely
between themselves, employees, thinking nothing's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So it's right, Why would it right?

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Well, there's nobody else other than you, as far as
I know, you're the only guy right now doing this.

Speaker 10 (48:32):
In the end, I haven't heard of anybody doing this. Yeah,
I haven't heard anybody doing uh. And I was kind
of surprised by that. When I got into the subject,
I was kind of doing my own thing here, just
looking into the area, the harry Man Road. I was
able to find how that actually got its name, the
harry Man Road. There was a lot of speculations to that,
but I was able to find that and from there
it just kind of grew on. Is anybody doing these,

(48:52):
you know, four year requests, any any type of information
acts or whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Well, how did harry Man run? Let's start there.

Speaker 10 (49:00):
Yeah, so, yeah, sure. I'm from around Rock, Texas, Winton County,
and we have the Harryman Road that passes through a
outside portion of the town. And I mean it used
to have like a canopy over the road, just covering
the trees, just covering over the road. And that's why
I took the name Harryman Road because unfortunately, over these

(49:22):
last few years, they've really kind of destroyed that road
to an extent. They put bridges over it, just took
out a lot of trees, and it's kind of sad
to see that. Growing up, we used to see it
just flourish out there. But a lot of caves that
Swiss cheese out there. If you're not careful, you might
walk into a sinkhole or just a pit just out
in the middle of nowhere. It's kind of sketchy out there,

(49:43):
especially at night. It's just wild. And there had always
been this rumor that the Harryman Road had got its
name because settlers traveling through the area. We have the
Chisholm Trail, which is like a famous trail that would
pass by the cattle up to Montana and such. And
they said that before this, and like the seventeen eighteen hundreds,

(50:05):
there was this hairy man that would hang out on
this trail and dangle its feet from the trees, would
like scrape the wagon tops. This is the story that
we heard as kids, and it was just something that
had been passed on. And while I was researching for
my first movie, the documentary Beast of Brushy Creek, I researched.
He went to the library, and I was able to
find a book that actually, without a doubt, gives us

(50:28):
the reason that name Harryman Road came to be. And
without a doubt, it had that kind of rumor before
because the actual incident took place in nineteen sixty six.
A group of kids we know their names from the book,
were all hanging out at this area around midnight and
one of the kids was stranded there. Shorty called well,

(50:48):
and this giant, hairy figure came out of the brush
and chased him all the way back to town. Came
to school the next day, started talking about it, and
he was going to like wildfire. Everybody was mentioning the
harry Man Road. Fast forward to a few years later,
a man starting a business off of this area. He
wanted some stationary with his name and everything on it

(51:09):
didn't have The road didn't have a name at the time.
Goes to the local post office, asked the postmaster what's
the name of this road. Postmaster says, well, it doesn't
have an official name, but all the kids call it
harry Man Road, and from then on it was mister Carroll,
I believe his name is. He's like, I love it.
He went to the town hall to get the name registered,
gets a name register, comes back just laughing, loves it,

(51:29):
and he says, okay, they said it's harry Mett Road.
So that's the way it got its name officially, the
Harryman Road. And I talked about that a little bit
in my documentary.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Very interesting. Speaking of weird road names, there's a road
not terribly far from me, about five miles where a
guy that works for me, he had a daytime bigwood sighting,
and we went back there, of course to show me
the exact spot. It was on fur Man Road. Okay, hey,

(52:00):
so you know you like, did that get named because
of legends or saans.

Speaker 10 (52:07):
Yeah, similar, absolutely. And I mentioned the bear Man, and
that was actually from right in the area. It was
in I believe it was eighteen ninety nine, eighteen ninety eight.
This woman claimed to be abducted by the bear Man,
a giant hair covered man took her to the Hill
the Hill Countries and Marble Falls just right near me,

(52:29):
and that's where it came. I think that that article
was actually in the National Library in DC. It's like
on the wall somewhere. The bear Man interesting aread.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Obviously, I would imagine they're referring to a bigfoot type creature.

Speaker 10 (52:44):
I mean, yeah, at the time, I don't think they had,
you know, that terminology at that point. The Native Americans
obviously had seen something and they would always talk about it.
The Tonka would tribe was in this area and they
had really strange customs. They would wear the fur of
these giants, of these wools, and they would dance around
like they were giant wolves. They're God, who's like this
wolf deity. So it's just interesting stuff this whole area.

(53:07):
I sent you some slides about the Gulf. The Gulf
is kind of like a new thing. There's a documentary
about it. They're finding ruins and things that were about
twenty thousand years old, which is crazy finding that in
central Texas. The other closest thing to that, Yeah, that's it.
The other close thing to that is like go Beckley Tepe,

(53:27):
which is in Turkey, and they're they're dating it around
that same age. So it's just really weird that, well,
what is happening right here?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
What kind of stuff?

Speaker 10 (53:35):
Eric? Is that? The gold, you're finding, pottery, you're finding
pre Clovis stonework, bones, all types of really interesting things.
There was a community that was living out there. And
one of the other interesting things. I don't think I
talked about it in a documentary, but around the time
they were constructing the main road through here, I thirty

(53:57):
five Texas. Everybody's in Texas, they know that road, they
went through the Brushy Creek and this same area where
all this stuff is happening, they find an ancient Roman
coin and I think I sent you the thing for
that one ancient Roman coin. I believe it was nineteen
sixty seven something like that, And I have a really
amazing story that I just from this year. Coincidentally, I

(54:19):
was with a colleague and We're at a place and
he's talking to a gentleman that he knows, another colleague
of his who's an older gentleman, and he's talking to
us about all types of stuff, and he brings us
up and it caught my eye. He says that he
was in Professor Epstein. That's the guy who's holding the coin.
He was in Professor. He didn't know anything about me, said,
I was in Professor Epstein's class. We were talking about

(54:40):
the buffo toad, which is the toad that Native Americans
used to lick to get you know, psychedelic or whatever.
And his friend knew right away. They were looking at
some like architecture whatever had a buffo toad carved. They
were looking at it, and his friend knew right away
that was a buffo toad. Okay. The professor kind of

(55:01):
shamed him in front of the class, saying, no, that's
not a buffo toad. That's this because of this or whatever.
This is the same person that got that Roman coin.
He wrote an article about this Roman coin. He said
that he didn't believe it was an original deposit. It
was found at the bottom of an Indian burial mount
Mind you, he didn't believe it was an original deposit.
He believed it was a relic somebody brought back from

(55:23):
World War Two. They dropped it walking along Brushy Creek.
A rode and grabbed it and burrowed with it. That
was his thesis on it. Okay, So I just learned
that I was mentioning this buffo toad during this class
where he shamed that student for claiming it was a
buffo toad. The next day he had to come and
apologize to that student because he did the research. And

(55:45):
he goes, I apologize, You're absolutely right that was a
buffo toad. So that's the same person that was in
charge of this Roman coin. So did he make a mistake,
first of all, And it's really interesting for me. And
then I also have a couple I think I had
a slide of the cart ruts. The cart ruts are
really interesting too. Those are only found in like three
places in the world, Malta, Turkey, and Central Texas. Along

(56:07):
the Brushy Creek what is it? And the cart ruts
are these little cart ruts? Yeah, cart ruts exactly. Those
those are only found in three places in the world, Malta, Turkey,
and Central Texas. Off the Brushy Creek. That's the Brushy
Creek right there. Uh. And from dating those the ones

(56:27):
that in Malta are I think around five thousand BC.
Those they I mean, if they're that old, they show
a civilization that's been in Central Texas for at least
that long, which is really incredible. It's it's kind of uh,
you know, baffled the archaeologists that have come through who
made these as a video, there's a lot of videos.
I think the cart ruts are going to become a

(56:49):
popular thing here very soon because they are they're interesting,
they're unexplained. They go you see those you see those
lines that they go into rocks, they go into the water,
they just disappear. I don't know where. They're really interesting, unexplainable,
these cut ruts.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
Yeah, the Malta ones were on Graham Hancock show. They're
pretty wild. They're just bizarre. They don't make a lot
of sense.

Speaker 10 (57:12):
And I mean that's found right along the Brushy Creek,
right in an area where they found the Leanderthal woman
that they're dating around sixteen thousand years old. That's that's
around the Galte site. So I mean they found the
Roman coin. I mean it's just really like, you know,
I feel like there's been people here for a lot
longer than their claiming. I think pretty confident that, right. Yeah,

(57:36):
And the Golt's becoming really popular right now. There's a
documentary that was just released on it. A man spent
his life savings to buy this site or else who
was going to be turned to like a condominium or
something like that commercial property. So I think in the
next few years the Gault is going to become like
go Beckley Tepier, I think, honestly really interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah, yeah, well it's it's it's just cool that your
area has got so much uncovered and obviously still buried history.

Speaker 10 (58:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, right. In my in my documentary I
mentioned I didn't we hadn't moved already from this property,
but my childhood home. In twenty fourteen, they dug up
three ancient Native Americans right behind our house. Like, it's
just insane. We have no idea how those those bones
were because unfortunately, in Texas we have a law that

(58:27):
says the construction company can hire their own you know,
archaeologist or whatever, and a lot of times they just
pay right over the road. So I believe that's what
happened here.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah, fortunately, Yeah, I would put the archaeologist in a
pretty bad position. Yeah, unemployed.

Speaker 10 (58:45):
Oh take the bone you didn't see exactly. And I
think that bone you didn't see in my documentary. I
have a camera that I don't want to say, it's
kind of a hidden camera or whatever. And the construction
workers telling me we find bones everywhere. He's like, they're
all over the place. This whole place is the grave yard.
So yeah, yeah, it's an interesting area.

Speaker 9 (59:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I know a lot of people have gone missing in
Brushy Creek alone, let alone the whole country. Have you
been doing any National park for is?

Speaker 10 (59:19):
I have done National Park foroys, but not really for
missing people. I've done them for bigfoot. And I want
to talk about one that I've received. It's really just
kind of wile we can talk about that at first.
It is the only I have my thing to follow
along here. I believe it.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
It is.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
It's a Federal hall. Where's it shoot? It is labeled
twenty three And this was a foyer request I submitted
to Dineo National Park in Colorado. This is in my book.
It's nothing like I've ever seen before. I've seen other
four year requests. And if if you can look at

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right at the top of their that that stuff that's
redacted shouldn't be redacted. Those are rangers. That's a badge number.
We should know that that should not be redacted.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
That should be public.

Speaker 10 (01:00:09):
Yeah, that should be public. And if you look really
closely those letters right there, it says, please note as
asters this contained information that has not been approved by
a supervisor. I've never had that before in my life.
I've never seen that before all the four year requests.
This is the first National Park one that I've seen

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that had this. And this was in twenty twenty December
of twenty twenty, and I'd go ahead and read it here.
It says summary suspicious circumstances bigfoot hunters flocking to Yampa
Bench Road report bone piles near road and bigfoot siding
near Cleopatra's couch. Bone piles may be related to poaching,
possible ob camping along Bench Road. Unprepared visitors visiting area

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and winter may result in increased search and rescue Yampa
Bench Road. So the wrong quote bigfoot hunters that were
there in the area. Well, first of all, right, off
the bat, we have no idea how this report came
to be. We don't know if it was a phone call,
We don't know, if it was an email, We don't
know if it was a dialogue between people in the park.

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We have no information on that, and we should we
should have that information. It should be there, but we don't.
I mean, you can see that it's that it's not
approved by supervisor. The really interesting stuff again is the
bone piles, the bigfoot siding in the area. And then
the other really interesting thing it's in my book, is

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that the reason they give all it is is that summary,
those little three words or whatever. We should have a
four or five page thing saying this person did this,
this did that. We've got a whole summary. It shouldn't
be just three four senses. That's that's not a normal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, because that tells you there was a lot more
emails are reporting.

Speaker 10 (01:01:57):
There was something somebody called somebody you know, we you know,
we don't know how this transpired originally, but attached to
this report was a personal thing they had sent me
saying it's in my book. It says, Hey, the reason
this document is so short is because the ranger that

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was assigned to this was medically incapacitated to go out
to that area. And when you think medically nepacitated, what
happens hip hop research is done? No more research after that.
And the crazy thing is, I've talked about this before
and some people speculate was the ranger, the one that
submitted this report. Was he medically incapacitated because he saw something.

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We can only speculate, But we shouldn't know who submitted this.
We should know who the ranger is. So they're kind
of making it. It's one and the same if we don't,
you know. And again, once they do the foyer, it's
dead in the water. We're not gonna be ably get anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
So I don't remember I've ever talked to you about this.
I learned indirectly from Jeff Harding.

Speaker 10 (01:03:05):
Jeff's a great guy.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Yeah, you know Jeff.

Speaker 10 (01:03:08):
Jeff's a great guy. Yeah. I've had the pleasure of
speaking with Jeff. Really knowledgeable guy. He's kind of taking
a break. I wish he would come back. I know
I've been one of the most sensible, one of the
most sensible people I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
But did you hear did he did he confide in
you a tip on how well? Let me just I'm
just gonna throw it out there because I don't care.
It should be heard by everybody. And this is what
was kind of uncovered at least in one department in Minnesota.

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So what a lot of times when the sheriff gets
a call that's uncomfortable bigfoot sighting or people's home being
attacked by bigfoot, or people out camping who are being
attacked by bigfoot in those kinds of situation, like in
the wilderness, they will refer the whole thing to search

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and rescue. In that way, there's nothing in their files.
Everything goes into the search and rescue files. Yeah, and
apparently Jeff had thought, okay, so he wrote and he
did this to a search and rescue group in one
area way I know there's a lot of big food activity.

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Sure enough, we get the letter and a whole you know,
it's quite a whole bunch of stuff and lots redacted.
But it did specifically talk about rescues where people were
too frightened to leave an area because of bigfoot attacks
and sightings in remote wilderness areas, and the sheriff had

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nothing in their records. All of it goes into the search.
But apparently the search and rescue people are at least
that one was very willing to give everything.

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
Yeah, I've been saying, maybe that's great. I appreciate that.
I think he might have touched on that, not directly,
but just a little bit. But doing the research, yeah,
I have. I've I've noticed that that a lot of
communities and counties are kind of switching out their own
uh nine to one one for companies that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Do this now, oh yeah, privatize exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:05:28):
I think Alaska has the most. Like I've tried to
get stuff from Alaska and I have got some stuff,
but a lot of it it's like, hey, that's the
third party, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, right right, Well it's the same thing with the
search and rescue exactly, the same escape that they have
to not have to reveal anything.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's tricky, but they they know
what they're doing. They absolutely know. What.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Have you tried different contact? Like will they even give
you the name of the company, the private company?

Speaker 10 (01:05:55):
Don't give me the name of the company. Yeah, and
I have. I have sent stuff to them. I I
want to say, the last thing I sent to them,
they're still working on it. This is maybe like four
months ago. Yeah, but a lot of the times they'll
just you'll, you'll, they don't even let you. You have
to submit through there like portal. You can't even you

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can't just write an email. You have to submit through
their portal. Yeah, I have no idea where that goes.
You don't have a record of it, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, man, and I would imagine they're gonna want to
charge you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:26):
Yeah. I mean, this book actually costs me quite a
bit getting these records, which is unfortunate because that's it's
public information. But I've spent probably over six hundred dollars
on a lot of these reports getting done, which it's
just it's disgusting. It should be free.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Okay, So, uh, squatch mom has a question. Is there
one report or one player response that was the most
blacked out that stands up? Maybe there's those.

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
Years, there's a lot of them. I mean, uh, this
one right here, the last one was a good one.
Probably for me. It might be the well, there's a
few of them that I really like too. Now, probably
the best one for me is one that's uh, I
consider it to me. I don't know if we want
to talking about this later, but I consider it the greatest,

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big foot siding of all time. I do consider it that,
and it does have a lot of redactions in it,
but there's a lot of amazing information in there. It's
it's incredible. I got it through the let's do it. Okay,
let's do it.

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:29):
Let's do it. Let me let me hold on, let
me sure, let me find it. Which one it is?
I want to make this okay? So it's twenty six
what I labeled it. I got this from the Federal
Bureau of Indian Affairs. I don't think anybody's ever done
a four yeer for them regarding a big foot before.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Good idea.

Speaker 10 (01:07:50):
I thought it was I thought it was interesting. So
this is the folder they sent me back after doing
the four year request. Is there any way you can
zoom in a little bit on that labels not at school?

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
I'll read it, I don't think, so I'll read it.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
It's okay. So it's that's the folder I got from
the for your request. Everything is inside of this folder.
Everything is in my book. It says incident Report number
two three one eight six, twenty five seventy eight. So
it came out in nineteen seventy eight, and you see
a black bar. There after that black bar, it says
residents animal or bigfoot. That's what it says. And that

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is a that's a federal that's a federal document right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
The animal or read it one more time for audience.

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Yes, it says redacted residents, animal or bigfoot. No one
has ever seen this document before. It's it's it's it's
been hidden for since nineteen seventy eight. I got this
around the beginning of last year of this year. Sorry,
no one's ever seen this before. If you're able to

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pull up Jeff page one report. And I'd gotten a
lot of heat because I posted this folder on some
Facebook groups and I just got hacked to bits. Everybody's
like show everything, we want to see it, you know.
But this cost me money to get this. Unfortunately, I
can read most of that if it's too small. So

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this was again June twenty fifth, nineteen seventy eight. This
was written by a federal Indian police officer. And it
says two Agency special officer from Officer redacted subject animal
or bigfoot seen by redacted residents. And it says I

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checked the area where this animal was seen. I had
officer redacted and conservation officers redacted Big Redaction with me.
Officer redacted, myself walked up to where this animal was seen.
The conservation officers drove up to the green water tank
located and above Galtiero Flats. After checking the area, the

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only thing we found were tracks belonging to a bear.
Official redacted said he would put a he would put
bear tracks in the area, a bear trap in the area.
Official redacted also advised that due to the dry weather,
it is causing animals to come down from the mountain
looking for water and food. There's a there's a drop

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right there line break. The persons who saw the animal,
Big Redaction. Both persons said the animal they saw was
standing up and had his hands in the air. Both
subjects were frightened. They then began telling me that they
heard bigfoot was seen at Head Springs and that they

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were sure what they saw was a bigfoot. I advised
them we would go up there and see what it was.
So this is the federal officers report of this. I
have the witness statement in the book. It's a handwritten thing. Basically,
what had happened is it's in the book. The mother

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and a child were all by themselves on the Mescalero
Apache Reservation that's where this took place in New Mexico.
They were by themselves alone. They heard something near their
water tank. They go walking up to the water tank.
This thing comes up standing on two feet, hands in
the air, scares them the death. They run back home
and they called the cops. They call the federal police.

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That is what that report has never seen the light
of day before. Again I have. It's about four more pages.
They're pretty much just kind of going into a little
bit more about it. Again. There's a witness statement saying,
you know, they called because of this. We have up
to at least five federal officers investigating this conservation officer,

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Federal Bureau officer, and then officers that we don't know
what agency they're from. They're all checking out this area,
and it's it's kind of, you know, it's kind of
interesting and kind of insulting to me that these you know,
they would say it's a bear. You know, it's a bear.
But the native people that have been in this area
for a really long time, they were one. It says

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they're they're sure what they saw was a bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
It says it sure what they saw was a big well,
I mean most beards do raise their hands and you know,
wave at you and so on. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I mean they said that that thing was seen
by head springs, and then some of the you know
the Yeah, some of the other stuff is interesting too, crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
Well, I find I find the wording. I find the
wording interesting. I mean he didn't say alleged bigfoot or
put big foot in quotes or creature. I mean they
just used the name bigfoot like they took it serious.
You think it's a pretty standard word that they'd be using,
you know what I mean, it just yeah, the wording
is interesting the way that it's.

Speaker 10 (01:12:50):
To me, this is so similar to what is it
the Ruby creak encounter a woman alone with their children,
and this thing just comes out of the you know, wilderness,
really interesting stuff. If there were bear prints, were the
photos of the bear prints. We don't have any photos
of the bear princess in nineteen seventy eight. I'm sure
they were equipped with everything they needed for that.

Speaker 9 (01:13:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
Again, the handwritten letter is really interesting too. To me,
I think this is this is good, this is good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Well, it's definitely you know, there's definitely a cover up
on that one, no doubt.

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
But you said it. I'm glad you said it. Oh god, yes, no,
but we'll well yeah, I mean, yeah, the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
But it's a local but a local cover up. Eric,
it's you know, it's that local office.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Well it's local, but it is also federal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
It's federal but local, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:13:39):
Federal. But yeah, it's interesting that you know, they they
had at least five officers up there, one officer to officers,
for sure, you had five guys that they want to
know what this thing was. I think they took pictures.
I think they took measurements of those tracks. We know
they took measurements of those track pictures at least.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:56):
It's interesting stuff, man, really interesting stuff. I don't know
where we go from.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Well you just you know, whatever, just sure interesting. You know,
here's the thing about your book. As you reveal contents,
people are going to want the book more, not less,
because so many people buy these books to show their
brother in law, their sister that the one or two

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people in their family that are skeptics. Because most people
here in your in our audience, they're already long past believing,
but they you know, I've got a good friend, Jim,
and he he's got a brother that just is you know,
he keeps collecting files and things to keep trying to

(01:14:47):
convince his brother that they're real. And I don't blame them,
because it's frustrating when you've got somebody that just won't believe.
And your book will definitely turn some heads, right, I
hope it does.

Speaker 10 (01:15:00):
And that was kind of my thing, you know, I yeah,
I mean I know a lot of skeptics also, and
you know, I love the stories, I love all that stuff.
It's great, but I wanted some hard data you can think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Do they have for by the way, in Canada if
any you know do?

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
But I'm not familiar with it, to be honest with you,
Yeah they do, but it's I think it's a little
bit more restrictive, to be honest, not one hundred percent sure,
but I know they have it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Well, if anybody's listening wants to work with Eric on
yeah filing Canadian wants a Canadian yeah that wants to
help Eric file? You know, Eric, maybe go out the
documents or whatever and you can be the filer. But
that would be interesting because I would imagine there's so

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many cover ups up in Canada.

Speaker 10 (01:15:47):
Yeah, we're gonna can we talk about this one. I
kind of put this one as like an astris astis well,
it's it's labeled, it's a bunch of nines. It's let's
do the triple let's do the let's do the triple
nine first, if you can, if this is cool with you.
I didn't put this in my book because honestly, I
was terrified to put there in my book. Really yeah, yeah, well, uh,

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this this was about a year and a half in
the making. I'm obsessed with Tom Slick, the big foot
hunter from San Antonio, multi millionaire. Just he's just a
he was kind of like Howard Hughes, you know Elon
Musk before that, he was just a really well Howard Hughes,
I guess, really interesting guy. I spent the yetty expeditions.

(01:16:32):
We hear about him smuggling that hand from Nepaul, a
lot of interesting stuff about Tom Slick. And I did
a four request for him into an agency and Alphabet agency,
wanting to know if they had any information on Tom Slick,
because I mean we did mention cover ups earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
You mentioned that there's no there's no way they wouldn't
because he was involved in the the Patterson Gimblin film,
and you.

Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
Know, there's he was involved in and more things I
think than we know. I mean it's not known, but
he actually started a primate research facility in San Antonio.
So if he had something, he had the facility to
do whatever he wanted with it, test it, whatever. You know,
he had the facility built. It was. He had his
own airline. He didn't have to. You know, it's just insane.

(01:17:20):
He was the guy who has a lot of secrets.
And I'm gonna read this right now. This is from
a memorandum from May second, nineteen fifty two, and there's
a lot of rumors about Tom Slick and his dited
an airplane crash in Canada, I believe, and a lot

(01:17:41):
of crazy stuff about that. But the subject about this
this was I believe he died in nineteen like fifty
nine to sixty two. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
This was in nineteen fifty before that. So the subject
is bullet hole and stabilizer of aircraft. This is a
federal document and they're basically writing that aircraft they named

(01:18:04):
the aircraft. March eighteen, ninety fifty Slick Airways, Inc. Sabotage
says sabotage. I have your memorandum of April twenty sixth,
nineteen fifty and closing a copy of a memorandum from
Los Angeles Office advising that bullet holes have been found
in two planes belonging to Slick Airways, Inc. You state

(01:18:25):
that no investigation will be conducted in the absence of
a request from me. An examination of the enclosure of
the memorandum discloses that the available information does not indicate
the possibility of sabotage within the meaning of the memorandum
of nineteen fifty entitled Aircraft Incidents sabotaging involved pan Am airplanes.

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The Criminal Division, according this does not desire the Bureau
to make an investigation of this matter. So two planes
from Tom Slick Airways had bullet holes in them a
few years before Airplce Lane death. I don't think anybody's
ever seen this before.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I've never never heard about this ever.

Speaker 10 (01:19:06):
Two bullet holes. And I had a bunch of files
I had, like at least maybe over forty pages. But
the agency that sent me this you had, you couldn't
download it. You had to log in and look through
it through their portal, and so everything redacted, redacted, redacted.
And I'll show you what I mean on this next

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document so you can pull it up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I mean, is it is it legal for you to
take like photos of the screen?

Speaker 10 (01:19:39):
I mean I snapped these. I snapped these just like
screen grabbed them because they were the only ones of
anything giving me any words. Everything was redacted with those squares.
You see those little squares right there. Everything was redacted
to hell. So this is another Uh, it's a white
that's a white out exactly you see up top right
there where it says confidential crossed out or whatever. So yeah,

(01:20:00):
I don't think anybody's seen these. Yes, Slick Airways, and
you can see where this came from. I'm not gonna
say it, but you can see that and redacted to hell.
A confidential informant who has furnished reliable information in the
past has advised that on November nine, nineteen fifty six,
a representative of Slick Airways, Incorporated, Washington redacted just redacted.

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Another confidential informant has furnished reliable information in the past,
advised that we're adapted. This memorandum is loaned to you
by the Federal Bureau of Investigations, and neither it's nor
its context are to be distributed outside of the agency
which loaned. So they had confidential informants working in slick airways,

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you know, around the time. I don't know, you know,
just really crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Can somebody in chat just put up a short like
a bio of mister Sleck because he was involved in
YETI stuff over the Hamalaya. Absolute, he was fine. He
was a rich I don't know if he was a
bill next year.

Speaker 10 (01:21:08):
Oh, he was definitely oil billionaire.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
He was bonaire.

Speaker 10 (01:21:11):
There is a I don't know if it's released yet,
but they're working on a podcast where Owen Wilson is
actually going to play Tom Slick's voice in this new podcast.
Apparently they found like some new documents or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Cool so he heard I heard that.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
I would love that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
It's a movie played by Nicholas Cage was gonna play Slick,
but it got apparently axed after they started shooting for
some reason. Think about that. That just goes with what
you're doing.

Speaker 10 (01:21:42):
I mean, Tom Slick, he had a lot of information
that you know, when he died, it kind of got
confiscated honestly, we have no his family doesn't have it.
They should we We really don't know, you know, the
contents of what all he did have, it's it's we
can only speculate, but we know he built this a
facil they do like hormone testing and all this type
of stuff. It's still there in San Antonio, but it's

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not run by the family anymore from what I understand.
Really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So yeah, maybe Greg would be just fun. If Greg,
if maybe you can find it, maybe you can even
ask Ai or whatever. I'd love to just throw up
a quick description of Tom Slick.

Speaker 9 (01:22:23):
Well, here I found the Wikipedia article here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Well, yo, you can always trust Wikipedia. Yeah, can you
read just a brief Sure.

Speaker 9 (01:22:33):
He died in nineteen sixty two from San Antonio. Inventor, businessman, adventurer,
and heir to an oil business. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
He during the fifties. He's an adventurer. He had expeditions
to investigate the Lockness Monster, the Yetti Bigfoot, the Trinity Alps,

(01:22:55):
giant salamander, Slicks interest in cryptozoology was little known until
the nineteen eighty nine publication of the biography Tom Slick
and the Search for YEI by Lauren Coleman. I'm gonna
put that on my my list here too. That I
got to read that one cole Ma Contino study of
Slick in two thousand and two with Tom Slick True

(01:23:16):
Life Encounters in crypto Zoology. The book makes as many
of Slick's adventures and politics, art sciences, crypto science, and cryptozoology,
including his involvement with the CIA and Howard Hughes. So
there's two more books. I got to put it in
my list.

Speaker 10 (01:23:31):
Yeah. Interesting, interesting guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
So do you think it's possible he was taken out
because he was financing these monster ons by one of.

Speaker 10 (01:23:41):
The I mean, yeah, he was involved in stuff that
we don't even know about. So it's hard to say
if it was this or you know, if it was
something else.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
But who was putting the you know, I just wonder
who's doing the bullets, who was shooting their airplines?

Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
Well, I mean you saw where that letter came from
or whatever. Say, yeah, I'm not gonna say any names.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Well it's okay, back up to a second. Are you
truly no? I just want to go there. Are you
truly a little concerned? At times?

Speaker 12 (01:24:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:24:12):
Yeah? Sometimes? Uh? That one scared me the most because,
like I said, it took over a year and a
half to get it, and I had to use their portal.
I couldn't like just download the files or whatever. And
my book, you know, I'm not redacting. There's only like
two things I redacted in that book, just information, you know,
personal information. Everything else there is personal information from some

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of that stuff just out there. I didn't want to
didn't want to do it myself. I only did it
for like two things that I thought, you know, needed
to be Everything else is unredacted. And have you hopefully
I don't get in trouble after it comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
No, I know, But have you had any incidents that
just seemed weird?

Speaker 10 (01:24:50):
I'll tell you one thing. I'll tell you one thing.
This was maybe two or three years ago. I got
pulled over at driving whatever. The guy was really on behind,
I mean, really bad police officer. I think it was
a police officer. He didn't he was like playing clothes.
Pulled me over and he took a picture of me
with a cell phone. I've never seen that before. What

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take a picture of me with a cell phone and
then he let me go?

Speaker 9 (01:25:14):
Uh it's odd.

Speaker 10 (01:25:15):
Yeah, that was on and I tried getting that well yeah, no, okay,
I tried getting that information. But I was thinking about
getting that information, but I didn't. And I mean my
documentary kind of covers why I didn't. There's a lot
of this last year. I'll just say it. You know,
my documentary talks about bodies popping up in the Brushy

(01:25:35):
Creek and weird areas or whatever, and this last year
there was multiple but I actually on my phone captured
them pulling someone out of the creek. News never touched
it nothing. I'm out there because someone posted on like
a social media thing or whatever. So I rush over
there and there's a guy sitting on the bench and
I'm talking to him and I was like, what's going on.

(01:25:56):
He starts telling me and he goes, they didn't get
well this is this is what he told me. He says,
they didn't get the cs I out here nothing. He's like,
they're just taking them out and I was like, that's crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:06):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:26:06):
The other thing is my county, Williamson County. You can
look this up Williamson County, Texas. I didn't know this
until recently. There is no medical examiner. We have no
medical examiner. The judge gets to decide, with no medical background,
how people die in the county. Okay, they get to decide.
There is there's kind of this no training eight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
There's judges which I didn't even know, that have zero
legal training.

Speaker 10 (01:26:34):
You can look it up Williamson County. If they do not.
We do not have a medical examiner. So these past
bodies that have been pulling up out of the Brushy Creek,
someone said no foul play, no nothing. That had no
background to say that. That's just my pervoy. So it's
it's really weird, weird, you know, I think I think

(01:26:58):
about it, but you know, I kind of I haven't
been out to the Brushy Creek in a while, uh
kind of for you know, just it's creepy out there,
and and yeah, I don't have an out there while
I've been doing foy and stuff. And maybe that's subliminally
because of you know, I don't know, I'm concerned. Maybe
I don't know whatever. That's yeah, we can move on, gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
So so that's that was one thing that kind of
just shook you up. I I would be shook up
too if that happened.

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, if the guy was a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Cop, a government agent. You don't know anything.

Speaker 10 (01:27:34):
Yeah, I've never had that happen before.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Yeah, it's just things that make you go.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Anything else that you don't want to talk about, that
you want to tell us tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:27:48):
Well, I think that's come on here, get me.

Speaker 9 (01:27:51):
I think okay, everybody, don't tell anyone. Just keep it
to your We'll just keep it here.

Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
That's right, that's right. No, I think that's that's. You know,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ye.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Clicking on your phone or.

Speaker 10 (01:28:10):
No, definitely, not definitely, but I have you know, it's
probably just me being clumsy, but like putting files in
the wrong place and stuff. That's that's you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I mean, you've got a few this goes up gone.

Speaker 10 (01:28:22):
Well, you know, I think it's probably just me moving
stuff around.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I'm sure it is. Yeah, I'm sure that's that's that's
the ticket.

Speaker 10 (01:28:31):
Eric, I got a really cool photo that I can't
I can't find anywhere that someone had sent me off
of the balcony's canyon lands where they found that coyote
tied into a knot. I think that that was in
this area.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Was that you that that we had all those We
had some photos of that. That was you, wasn't that?

Speaker 10 (01:28:53):
Yeah, the coyote tied into a knot turning? Who that
was in the brushy cree Yeah, that was right. Also
that was near the Balconies canyon lands.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Yeah, coyotes tight in and not kind of Yeah, yeah,
what can do that? Right?

Speaker 10 (01:29:09):
Turned inside out?

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Turned inside oh, Jeff, and tied into a knot.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
What about sending you that photo? But I should have. Yeah,
it's a gruesome photo. It's a gruesome photo.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
But yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:23):
The Yeah, you've seen it. Yeah, yeah, I sent it
to you.

Speaker 9 (01:29:28):
I think thinking. I'm just I'm backcracking a little bit
thinking about tom Slick. Oddly enough, Trump just announced that
he wants to declassify files on immediate Earhart, which on
the surface sounds why on earth would they have files
in here and why would they be secret? Well, the

(01:29:49):
speculation is the government was using her for spying purposes,
so sore. There's a lot of stories about the CIA
kind of capturing people that are world travelers, So Thomslick
could be ideal because he already has cover for being
traveling to exotic places, traveling in the world. He's kind

(01:30:11):
of got cover. There's lots of evidence that the government
has used people like that for Spine, Amelia Arhart, Lindberg,
the astronauts in the Mercury program. So that could mean
this is all this is pure speculation on my part,
but that could be. That could be a possible explanation
for some of the memo. Who knows.

Speaker 10 (01:30:33):
Yeah, no, I mean he was definitely a world traveler,
we know that, and he funded his own travels. He
had everything you needed. I mean, he just seemed kind
of like a spy, you know, quote unquote interesting guy.

Speaker 11 (01:30:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:30:47):
Yeah, we only know a little bit about Thomsley. We
do only know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:50):
That's, like I said, that's another book. I have to
another book from my list.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I remember talking to John Green, who dealt with that
on a pretty regular basis, and I heard it. You know,
I just for some reason, I didn't think it was
that important at the time. But John would tell me stories,
you know, about things that he would supply them and

(01:31:13):
have ideas, and you know, he would supply them trained
dogs as an example.

Speaker 10 (01:31:20):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Any Okay, well, let's let's get away from Tom Slick.
There's lots of other things we can talk what a
great name.

Speaker 10 (01:31:26):
I mean, can I say real quick, there's like two
researchers that I'm obsessed with, and it's Tom Slick and
Robert Morgan. Mister Robert Morgan, two really interesting people. Robert Morgan.
I have stuff in my book to where I don't
know if it's been out. I didn't do a foyer
or anything. It was in a national archive, deep international archive,

(01:31:48):
and documents of him, uh, requesting funding for a federal
bigfoot hunt. And you have people signing off saying like, oh, uh,
Department of aggrolls thru you're you know, come on by,
you know, use this park. Stuff like that. Oh really
it's really interesting. Yeah, it's a I mean, I don't
know if directly the government funded Robert Morgan's efforts.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Well why haven't Why didn't you ever get in touch
with him?

Speaker 10 (01:32:13):
I've tried. I have tried. I've spoken with a few
people that know him, and I believe he might He's
up in age and I think he might have that effect.
I have really tried.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
If you could help me with that, Doug, Well, I
know somebody that remains friends. I don't you know. I
tried to get a hold of him too, at one
time and didn't have any luck. And I've got somebody
I'll look.

Speaker 9 (01:32:39):
You up with.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
She is the latest and greatest information on him and
his health so on.

Speaker 10 (01:32:45):
So yeah, he Yeah, I've been kind of fascinated with him.
Just an enigmatic figure. I mean, yeah, some of the
it's in my book. The journal he wrote like a
five page thing and he's basically saying, hey, I have
people that can work undercover or you know, if we
find something. It's it's pretty wild stuff. Yeah, involved in
a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Interesting. Well, he's my Facebook friend, I know that, which
I thought, oh my god, you got a request from
Robert Morgan.

Speaker 10 (01:33:14):
This is like three four years ago in the lottery now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Yeah, anyhow, Okay, what's what's what's next?

Speaker 10 (01:33:23):
We can talk about if you want to stay in Texas,
San Antonio, Tom's lick, we could talk about these events
that transpired in twenty nineteen in East Texas. And this
is really weird. If you could pull that photo of
it's fifteen and this is just on explained insane. So

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in Texas, if you guys know, we have a lot
of we had I think they changed the laws now,
but people owned tigers, they owned all types of stuff everything.
In twenty nineteen, I think we had one tiger that
was on the loose in like San Antonio and Randa,
Maine or whatever. I didn't pay much of attention to
this when it came out. It says loose monkey is
reportedly tormenting a Texas town. When I heard about this

(01:34:06):
at the time, I didn't really think much of it
until another bigfoot YouTuber did a video about it. Bob
Gimlin the YouTuber, a bigfoot YouTuber. He did a video
about it, and it kind of like I was like, oh,
I remember that, and he touched on some stuff that
I hadn't seen before, and I was like, okay. So
I did a Freedom of information after request for this incident.

(01:34:27):
People in the town of Santa Fe, Texas were calling
nine to one one saying that there was a wild
monkey on the loose attacking people. This is what they
were saying. The news went crazy with it. Everybody was
out talking about it, and it was just all over
the place. At There was at one point where the
news was at the location of one of the sightings

(01:34:49):
they're reporting. A guy drives by and says, hey, we
just saw it. It's over there, so stuff was happening.

Speaker 9 (01:34:56):
In real time.

Speaker 10 (01:34:57):
It was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Well how big was this mon?

Speaker 10 (01:35:00):
Well here, let's go to uh can you go to
sixteen real quick, Jeff, that's the thing. There was a woman,
the only woman who ever talked to the media, said
that this thing was standing by her garbage cans that
you know, normal stargs garbage cans, lifting up the lid
and looking in there. So you think it's got to
be a good size. The reports coming in were just

(01:35:21):
kind of varied. People were saying it was one size.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
They're not a squirrel monkey.

Speaker 10 (01:35:26):
Exactly, yeah, exactly. And so again I did the fourier request.
I got over five reports from this one incident. I
really wanted to get the nine to one to one
phone calls. I have nine one one phone calls from
you know, strange creature, bigfoot signings or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:35:42):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:35:42):
I really would have loved to get these, but unfortunately,
I'm starting to learn a lot of these departments they
only keep their stuff thirty days ninety days, and they'll
erase it they don't have anymore. So if that really sucked.
I wasn't able to get the phone calls, but I
was able to get these police reports and if you
see here, this one came from League City. It was

(01:36:03):
on September tenth, twenty nineteen, at eleven to fifteen am.
So someone in League City at ten oh four am
reported a possible monkey siding. And then this whole thing
kind of kicked off. And it says game Ward and
advised he will be speaking with ACO about the issue.
Animal Control officer. They say, Aco contact, They give the

(01:36:26):
contacts name. We need a drone, so they are requesting
a drone out there assisted Aco via drone attempting to
locate monkey. But search was unsuccessful. Checked area of your drone,
unable to locate monkey. So this thing was on the loose.
They had hound dogs out there, they had drones in
the air, they had people on foot looking for whatever

(01:36:49):
this thing was. The sheriff had to come out and
make a statement saying, hey, this is updocumented. Hey if
you see a monkey, don't go near it, don't touch it.
Called the chimpanzee. I think it's a chin panzi, don't
touch it. Called the authorities or whatever. People were really
kind of paranoid about what was going on. And I
have another Uh. It kind of evolved. It evolved from

(01:37:12):
a monkey to a primate. If you could pull up
sixteen three. That was the other report that came up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Well, the monkey, the monkeyme it's.

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
It should be sixteen like brackets three. Hopefully. I think
it's in the second game though, I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
So the monkey moniker is just so harmless, right, it's
a monkey. Yeah, it's like I've seen I've seen reports
where they say gorilla right to describe.

Speaker 10 (01:37:51):
Yeah, So, I mean this thing was it traveled from
one side of the town to the next. People were
seeing it everywhere between I'm telling you the news or
would have said, like they're driving by and someone says
it's over there, you know whatever. So people were seeing
it all over. There's two more reports in my book,
this one I'm gonna read. This one happened at right
before midnight the same day and it's in a different

(01:38:14):
location and it says Paller advises he hears primate. So
it would have all from monkey of primate possible visual So, man,
I would have loved to got that nine to one
one call as he's just shriving what he's seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Why can't you get this because it's well.

Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
They erased it. They erased it Doug. They only keep
us to do that, They only keep it around thirty
to sixty ninety days and they erase it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Oh that's us.

Speaker 10 (01:38:39):
How terrible is that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 10 (01:38:42):
So we would have like six nine to one one
calls of people, you know, mentioning this, but we don't.
All we have is the reports to go off of,
which really it's suck. I mean, at least we have something.
But man, can you imagine hearing those nine one one
phone calls as there? We don't have transcripts of any
of these calls. We don't know what the people are saying.
We only have just the really.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Brief How many calls were there?

Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
Eric, it was at least six at least monkey at
least six calls, six six calls around two days. Wow,
monkey of a monkey on the loose. Now here is
the kicker right here? Okay, everyone was saying this is
an aggressive monkey. We have no idea why they were
saying aggressive monkey, but they were saying it was an

(01:39:24):
aggressive monkey. None other police reports saying that. Nothing says that. Okay,
if you could pull up seventeen bracket two, Brent, the seas,
this to me is just this is kind of the
smoking gun for the case. So this was a private
email sent from the county clerk. No one was ever

(01:39:44):
supposed to see this, sent to an outside person, and
the subject line is OMG, oh my god. This was
right before the first report. I believe the first report
came out right before it. So, oh my god, there's
a loose monkey out in Santa Fe, Texas. It is
between three to four feet tall and attacking people. What

(01:40:06):
the heck? It's been missing it out and about since Friday.
So I've done all the full year requests. Couldn't find
anything about a monkey missing or anything like that. The
only four.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Foot tall, yeah, four foot tall monkey. Well, monkeys have tails, right.

Speaker 10 (01:40:26):
But you could see this was a real thing. It
was happening in real time. People in the in the
you know, community, were discussing in a clerk was talking
about it. And they never found anything. They found nothing.
They never found any you know, a monkeys, nothing like that.
To this day, it kind of remains unsolved. We have
no idea what these people were seeing. The woman who

(01:40:48):
said she saw this thing digging through her trash, what.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Location again is this, Eric, This is.

Speaker 10 (01:40:55):
Santa Fe, Texas. It's just a little bit, I believe
south west of Houston. Yeah, it's kind of like a
wet not wetlands, but uh rural area, rural area and doug.
When I first started talking about this, a lot of
people messaged me and we're only going to kind of
you know, I can speculate on what they were saying,

(01:41:17):
but I mean I had a lot of people reaching
out to me with different kind of They were from
Santa Fe, the area where this happened. People claiming different things.
One person said it was a a mother and a juvenile.
That's why there's like a size discrepancy thing going on.
Once it's small, once said big. Someone else said that
it was like an escape chimpanzee from like a chicken farm.

(01:41:39):
Uh someone else. This was probably the craziest one because
this guy, uh he he wrote me something pretty amazing
and he was saying, well, it was reported as attacking people.
Did the Foyers couldn't find anything from an ape attack
or whatever, And so he told me that his son
and his UN's friend, we're out, this is speculation whatever.

(01:42:02):
His son and his friend were out dove hunting and
they see a chimpanzee in the tree and They're like,
what the heck is that it sees them, and I
believe they shot it first. They shoot first, and then
it went after them and scratched a kid in the face.
This is what the guy was telling me. What And
that's the report that kicked off everything. The weird thing

(01:42:24):
is that all the reports that I showed you from
League City, from Santa Fe, those were all on September
tenth with a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
But they didn't describe it as a chimp, because chimps
are very very distinguished. You know, you just did the
way they sound, the way they look. You know, we
all grew up watching chimps on DV chimps jumps. That's
the one monkey you can identify.

Speaker 10 (01:42:46):
Or they did not describe it as yeah, exactly, at
least the police reports the yeah, yeah exactly. It was weird.
Never found anything. I mean, was this like an injured
eight kind of roaming around people were seeing. I don't know,
it's weird, man. They never found dogs, drones, eyewitnesses.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Reports, what year? What year again?

Speaker 10 (01:43:11):
This was twenty nineteen. Oh, it's recent, very recent, and.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Is it a dead end? Is it a dead end?
At this point?

Speaker 10 (01:43:19):
The only thing I think I could do a little
bit further, would be to interview the witnesses, and I
know who two witnesses are. That's it, the eyewitnesses. That's
about it, and it is a dead end after that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Are you are you going to do that and get
it on tape or record it?

Speaker 10 (01:43:36):
So I'm actually going out to East Texas and Louisiana
where we can talk about this perfectly leads into some
other stuff where I've received nine to one one phone
calls about bigfoot sightings, about bipedal creature sightings taking place
in East Texas. So at the end of this month,
I'm going to be out there in East Texas doing

(01:43:57):
some filming. I'm going to be interviewing, uh, at least
one of the witnesses of this nine to one to
one phone call. If you want to pull it up,
we can.

Speaker 9 (01:44:04):
Pull it up.

Speaker 10 (01:44:05):
It's in East Texas, not far from this area here.
Get this one up here and uh again, just kind
of unexplainable stuff going on here.

Speaker 9 (01:44:20):
You're amazing, Eric, Yeah, let me let me. I can
mention squatch Mama's comment here. It's seriously impressive how meticulously uh,
you organize your slides and photos and I agree. It
makes my job a thousand times easy. Most guests do
not have their pictures even labeled at all, so it's
kind of scramble and it's it's so I really appreciate

(01:44:43):
that you're so organized.

Speaker 10 (01:44:46):
You've got a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
Yeah, yeah, you just make it so much easier to
know what we're talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:44:51):
Oh yeah, do you want to give you a hard
time if you could pull up nineteen it's nineteen. So
this was in twenty twenty three, yeah, twenty twenty three. Okay,
So do you guys remember when that Santa Fe incident
happened September tenth, twenty nineteen. This report that I have

(01:45:15):
from Harrison County, Texas, East Texas, September tenth, same day,
twenty twenty three, same day, a few years apart, this
incident happened. And what this is was a gentleman who
has a beautiful piece of property in East Texas, Harrison County,

(01:45:37):
captured an image on his game camera that it's interesting,
it's an interesting image, and he called the local police.
He called nine one one in the area. A book,
it's in my book. Yeah, the image is in the book.
Yet it's an interesting image. It's he was concerned. I

(01:45:57):
mean he was concerned enough to call nine one one
to get yet help because he's he was doing his hay.
He was raking up his hay or whatever through the
machine and sees this thing out there. He was he
was worried about seeing this, calls the authorities. I have
the nine to one to one phone call. It's gonna
be in my documentary. I've spoken to the person, and yeah,

(01:46:18):
he was concerned. He reported this. At first, they took
the incident seriously. Once they transfer the call when it's
just him, you can kind of hear some laughing in
the background, unfortunately, and then what happened was weird. They
passed it over to the game warden. So it's like,
why did they get passed to the game warden? Why

(01:46:39):
didn't they go to the sheriff's office. You know, That's
that's it's weird to me. But that's what happened. And
I can go ahead and read what the report contains.
I should have done that. Actually, sorry, it says the
call happens and says call and reports that he may
have spotted something like bigfoot on his game cameras near
Samuel Road Estates off of the lovely road. His RP

(01:47:01):
was transferred to public service and it says siding of
bigfoot on game camera. That's what it says. This is
a sheriff's document out of Harrison County, Texas. I have
then one phone call. This is awesome because I think
I have everything from this. I got the image through
the foyer request, I got the report, got the nine

(01:47:21):
one one phone call, so it's in a nice little,
nice little bundle. There's no ambiguity of where this came from,
what happened. We know exactly everything about this, which is amazing,
and I'm really hoping to get an interview with the
man who made this phone call. He said, we could
when I go out there, go to the area where
this took place and just do some you know, measurements investigation.

(01:47:46):
I don't know. I thought it was really interesting. He
was concerned enough to call. He's not a bigfoot guy
at all. Didn't know anything about it, he says, No,
I heard one store years ago, that's about it.

Speaker 9 (01:47:58):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:47:59):
Interesting. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 10 (01:48:04):
Hoping to go out there soon.

Speaker 9 (01:48:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:48:06):
I will be going out there soon.

Speaker 9 (01:48:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:48:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
And these are all of the people that don't you know,
they're not going to report it to like the BFRO.
They're just to the police matter exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:48:23):
It wasn't a he This was not on any Facebook groups.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:48:26):
He this, You know, he wasn't seeking any type of
attention publicity. He was concerned. Especially when I spoke to him.
He's like, I don't know what the heck this theme was.
I don't want whatever this is here, So.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
So I want to backtrack. You'd mentioned this one thing.
These hunters shot it and it attacked and scratched somebody
where That scratch is serious? Do you have any idea?

Speaker 10 (01:48:49):
Well, you know, this was just a short little message
that I had received from someone who had heard me
talk about this. I can't verify if it's true or not,
but he told me that they shot it, it came
out of the trees and scratched the kid. And that
is where the aggressive eight came from. Because there's no
documentation saying aggressive ape other than the internal email, so

(01:49:12):
only people that were in the know knew about the
aggressive part. If you see what I'm saying, it's weird, yeah,
and yeah it's speculative, but that's what this person told me.
H yeah, interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Yes, yeah, it's it's very crazy. What else you got, Eric,
I got lots.

Speaker 10 (01:49:34):
But yeah, let's go to uh his image at twenty
if you can don't know how anymore like that? I
think I got that anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Well, I got by the way. By the way, Eric,
there's a comment up about the county that Verrex pulled up,
several reports filed.

Speaker 10 (01:49:55):
It might be there there is someone else's part after
hearing about it, but I don't know large here can
try to look for. Yeah, twenty twenty three, September tenth
is when this happened. Again. It's weird that it happened
exactly on the date of that other one twenty nineteen,
same thing. Really weird. I'm not sure where I want

(01:50:16):
to go from here. I think I want to that's good. Yeah,
you read my mind, Jeff, that's perfect. So A terrified
teen spot bigfoot with blowing eyes in Louisiana Forest. This
happened last year in Cassachian National Forest. It made the
national news. A group of teenagers were out there celebrating
a graduation and they got terrified, spooked, and they called

(01:50:42):
emergency services to get rescued.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
From Yeah, okay, you see that word rescue. Yeah, this
is apparently a common thing where people get so afraid
they're afraid to move, They're afraid to you know, walk anywhere.
They just they want to be rescued.

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
And I have the phone call of him calling in.
He is scared. You can hear in his voice.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
You want to play a tiny bit of it? I
have it.

Speaker 10 (01:51:09):
Give me one second, I can come on Eric. Well
it's not in my book, but it's gonna be in
the documentary. Give me a second. I will give you
one second. Here, I'll make it to where you can
play it real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Yeah you can just.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:51:27):
Oh okay, yeah, that's good. I can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Yeah, we'll hear it. M okay, okay, yeah, And if
anybody has questions for Eric, just put him in caps
and we will get him to Eric immediately.

Speaker 10 (01:51:49):
Okay, one second here, O kill me? Oh I think
I need to take well actually, yeah, I might have
to take my ear, but that's to play suda.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Mm hmm. Well I think it's worth it, don't you
Jeff A little?

Speaker 9 (01:52:11):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
You can't. You can't fake nine. It's pretty tough.

Speaker 10 (01:52:20):
Sorry, can I still see me?

Speaker 9 (01:52:29):
We lost you?

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:52:31):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:52:32):
Well, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
I don't know what's going on now? Welcome to live.

Speaker 9 (01:52:44):
The men in black got to him?

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
I hope not.

Speaker 9 (01:52:49):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
They're just getting going. I screwed it up. That's my fault.

Speaker 9 (01:52:52):
Oh no, we lost him.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
We'll come back.

Speaker 9 (01:52:56):
Yeah, Well, what are we talking talk about? In the meantime,
let's see what have we got in chat?

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Well, I just you know, I was going to mention
they talk more about these rescues. I was shocked when
I saw all of the cases and all of the
dots on the map were this Search and Rescue had
to rescue people in Minnesota, Like it was insane. I
was like, holy crap, there was like twenty of them.

Speaker 9 (01:53:28):
Yeah. I imagine, like you said too, if they transferred
over to Search and Rescue, there's going to be different
record keeping procedures.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Well, they're not obligated to keep any record, but they did.
You know, they did have files, and it's not going
to show up in Aphoia. That's the beauty. That's why
they do it, because the sheriff could have ordered, you know, rescues,
but no, no, no, no, they just turn it over

(01:53:56):
and they butt out. Yeah. And so that's a great
tip for anybody wanting to do, you know, to do
a you know, a call to their local search and
rescue team and say, hey, you ever handed?

Speaker 10 (01:54:11):
Kay, I think I got, I think I got. I'm
gonna see if I'm gonna crank it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 10 (01:54:19):
Hear this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
You know what I do? Eric, I just I put
on my phone. I hold it up to the mic.

Speaker 10 (01:54:28):
Let's see here. I'll put my hand, I got my
earbuds in. I'll put my head next to it. Magan here, yeah,
there you go. Okay, there you go. One second, here
goes one.

Speaker 17 (01:54:42):
Four nine seconds.

Speaker 20 (01:54:51):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
M We're not hearing it good enough.

Speaker 10 (01:55:05):
Eric, give me one second.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Just put your mic right up, Just hold it up
to the speaker.

Speaker 9 (01:55:12):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Condenser MIC's only work from like inches.

Speaker 10 (01:55:18):
Let me do this here listening better.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
It sounds like an interesting goal. Mm hmm. So he's
working on that plane on one call. Hear that, yep, a.

Speaker 17 (01:55:49):
Backbone trail and the part we are standing something that
was that we are not sure and.

Speaker 20 (01:56:00):
Take your stare something in the woods that you're not
sure of. There was a shadow of a rather large
animal or in our tent right now, and you was
different to do so okay, and you're on the back
of where exactly are you camping?

Speaker 10 (01:56:17):
About?

Speaker 17 (01:56:18):
A model housing? Fire going outside of my tent? Well, see,
it's about five people here. You've seen in intendents all
time because of what it was close? Did you hear
anything about hurting the cheap growl where everyone else who

(01:56:44):
is kind of taking the team take the rest of you.

Speaker 20 (01:56:47):
Do you think something was up staying four or two?
Not too sure.

Speaker 17 (01:56:53):
I do, not too much. I saw an experience and
to them in.

Speaker 20 (01:57:01):
Yes, okay, you're about half a mile and a mile
off the back of the trail.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Yeah, he just.

Speaker 10 (01:57:15):
Up.

Speaker 17 (01:57:18):
Okay, you want to be there? Want to do that?
Like somebody to be here? Okay, what's your ninety?

Speaker 10 (01:57:35):
That's about it? Can you guys hear it?

Speaker 9 (01:57:39):
Yeah? Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 10 (01:57:41):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
It wasn't great, It was great, but yeah, the point
is he wanted to be rescued. You want to be
I mean, that's the bottom line.

Speaker 10 (01:57:53):
And these are teenagers, a couple of guys out there,
bravado and they towered this tent and he told me
about this. I spoke with the witness. I have his
phone number on the UH from the report and everything,
and he was like he was embarrassed, you know. Uh,
and I probably would have done the same thing. I
probably would have done that. He was embarrassed. He's like, yeah,

(01:58:14):
I didn't know what to do. You know, we got
a call. I didn't know, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Yeah, it's freaky.

Speaker 10 (01:58:18):
So uh and uh, you know they having a nine
one one call. I have the reports. Uh, they know me.
The reports go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
When you feel your life is truly in danger, you know,
it's what people do. Yeah, a lot of people go
through life and they've never had their life in danger ever.
They just lived a charmed life and they've never felt
that panic. And a big unknown creature in your camp

(01:58:48):
is kind of a nervy So did they did they
see the the animal or were they just.

Speaker 10 (01:58:54):
They got the caller got a little bit of a
glimpse of it. Excuse me. Uh, it was over five
feet tall, he said, standing up thick. He said, it
was thick, like you could see that. It was thick,
broad And it was not far away. He said. It
was only about like fifteen twenty feet from him, not
far away at all, just kind of on the edge

(01:59:15):
of their camp, tormenting them. Really have really weird stuff.
No one from what I've heard people it is a
publicized event. I've heard researcher saying they're going to go
to that area, and I'm sure they did go to
that area. But I actually have the GPS coordinates from

(01:59:37):
where this happened. I'm going to be going out there
very shortly, and honestly, I'm I'm hoping to find maybe, like,
because they didn't pack anything, their camp should still be
their tents and supplies they just left. So if I
could go back there and find like this abandoned camp,
oh my god, that'd be insane.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Well we could, I don't know. Do you bring somebody
with you?

Speaker 12 (01:59:59):
Do you?

Speaker 10 (02:00:00):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (02:00:00):
For sure?

Speaker 10 (02:00:00):
For sure. No, I'm going with a little crew that's
gonna help me film this documentary. I'm gonna be making
here good. But yeah, I'm looking forward to going to
the exact coordinates where this call was, you know from,
and just drone searching the area looking for their camp.
I'm trying to convince the guy who called to go

(02:00:22):
out with us. I don't think he's I don't think
he's gonna want to go back out there. I've spoke
with him briefly. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully I
can convince him. But again, this isn't somebody that posted
on a Facebook group or anything. This was a nine
to one to one call. The other thing about this
is that I got the report Casachi National Forest. That's

(02:00:43):
a federal forest, okay, federally whatever. I got the report
from the Natatocia Sheriff's office. I didn't get anything from
the FEDS. And I looked for it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
I was like, hey, boy, that's suspicious.

Speaker 10 (02:00:54):
That's that's not only suspicious, that's concerning. These kids had
to be evacuated and you have no record of that, right,
that's crazy to me, Like they tried contacting the ranger
nowhere to be found, so insane, Like, no no record
of it, even though it happened in a national you
know institution. Crazy to me, bananas, and it kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
Pulls the the cape off the whole thing. You know,
the National Forest has zero records of a rescue. And
we found the same thing because the reports I had
mentioned of the from search and rescue is also from
a nationally a national forest, and that's where this stuff

(02:01:39):
just zinc disappears.

Speaker 10 (02:01:41):
Yeah, it's you know, we should have some type of
you know, anything, really no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Look if everybody was like you, we would have this
mystery solved just in piles of mountains.

Speaker 10 (02:01:53):
Well, yeah, the problem is, you know, we missed out
on a lot guys.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
It's like, like I told you the but this is
currently going on though, Eric, It's going on every day
in this way, It's.

Speaker 10 (02:02:04):
Going on every day, and we need to jump on
it when it happens, because again, reports get deleted. Nine
to one one calls only can stay on a server
for so long they've got you know, so it's like
if you don't catch it in the moment, it's gone.
So the report that the nine to one one call
that you just heard in the other nine to one
one call, those are long gone. The servers don't have
them anymore. So this is the only I believe I'm

(02:02:26):
the only one to have these actual.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
I just can't comprehend. They don't. They don't even want
to save them. Just I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:02:37):
It's yeah, they say it's cost effective or whatever, but.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Look nowadays storage is so.

Speaker 10 (02:02:45):
Cheap exactly, Yeah, yeah, so are just so cheap. You
got the cloud is an option as well, you could
do that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
I couldn't imagine that they could even fill up you know,
a terabyte drive in twenty years with one one calls?

Speaker 10 (02:03:00):
Right there? Those are two federal things. Okay, do you
remember the one I showed you in Dinoh National Park,
not approved by supervisor, A little short thing, it's federal.
And then we have this that should be federal. Nothing.
So they're just giving us like a little bit of
breadcrumbs and they're not giving us anything.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
You know?

Speaker 10 (02:03:17):
Is that by design?

Speaker 8 (02:03:18):
Is that?

Speaker 10 (02:03:18):
You know? It's interesting when you look.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
At it, like that story undo itself?

Speaker 9 (02:03:23):
What else we got?

Speaker 10 (02:03:25):
What else we got?

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
Let's see I like the way word that. What else
you got here?

Speaker 10 (02:03:30):
Are you? What do you guys think so far? I mean, yeah,
it's and like I said, I you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
How I can tell it's fascinating. People in chat go silent.

Speaker 10 (02:03:43):
I haven't seen chat. I haven't even looked at it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
They just think of silent because they're listening.

Speaker 10 (02:03:49):
Yeah, and like I said, unfortunately, we missed out on
a lot of calls, a lot of nine. One one. Actually,
let's do that one. We have that one. We do
have that one almost, Yeah, let's do that. Okay, if
you could pull up seventeen parentheses three we haven't talked
about this one yet it's super similar. Yeah, no worries.

(02:04:12):
So this is a case that took place in Cincinnati,
Ohio in twenty twenty one. Now you remember that a
I call it the ape sighting spree. It took place
in Santa Fe, Texas, the one where you know the
scratch in the face or whatever. That was a few
years before this, and then this happens, and it's just
really weird. No monkey's found in Cincinnati after multiple nine

(02:04:33):
to one one phone calls. Now this we actually had.
There's video of this. There's video of these apes in
a tree. It's not the best video, but there is
video of it. Really, there is video of it. It's
on like YouTube and a couple of other news. It's
a grainy looking video, but you can clearly see some
type of eight creatures, at least four of them sitting

(02:04:53):
in this tree. It's wild. It's a guy in Cincinnati.
Guy took yeah, exactly, a guy took video of it.
His name was Lucky something, and that he's in the
news and everything. So I did the full year request.
I got his original call that he that he made
and talked about and I want to pull up let's
see you pull up eighteen please yep. So this is

(02:05:21):
one of the four reports that I got from this incident.
This is really crazy. Okay, if you can see that
it has multiple callers or users. They had at least
six or seven nine phone calls. All of this is,
all of these reports are combined into one incident report.

(02:05:42):
I've never seen that before. What every every call should
have their own incident number, or this was all bundled
into one thing, which.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
Is why do you think they bundled it to cover
it up?

Speaker 10 (02:05:52):
I think there was so much going on, it was
like happening in real time. They were getting a call,
they get another call, like, that's my only reason unless
they're trying to cover something out, they put it all together.
I mean, it's really weird. Unfortunately, again I called, hey,
I want the nine to one one phone calls. Sorry,
only keep them for ninety days, don't have them anymore.
So we've missed at least like eight or nine phone

(02:06:15):
calls from this event. Again, people describing what they're seeing.
We're never going to hear that, which sucks. But we
do have some pretty good descriptions in this ninety one
one phone call. Yeah, well let me start at the top.

Speaker 9 (02:06:26):
This was this was like a.

Speaker 10 (02:06:29):
It was one day and it kind of led into
the next day. So this is the report of the
second day, after the first call, the video the guy
put out or whatever. There was two reports. There was
a lot of reports, but they combined it into two
like incidents reports, which is weird. But this happened at
nine for three am the next day.

Speaker 9 (02:06:48):
This is.

Speaker 10 (02:06:50):
You know, local county sheriff or whatever. So it says
ac from Mike King from the Department of Agriculture, requesting
a call from someone that can give him more information
regarding the monkey situation. So the Department of Agriculture is like, hey,
we want to know what's going on over there. Why
are people seeing monkeys running around? Why is there a
video on the internet of monkeys running around? Interesting? And

(02:07:13):
then it says at this time, we can't provide any information.
So I don't even think they called back the Department
of Agriculture. And then we have someone who called it's
a different name, and it says ac from I'm not
going to say the name redacted, calling from American Primate
Education Sanctuary. So the sheriff's officer was just calling all
different people trying to get help for this. They called

(02:07:35):
the zoo. It wasn't theirs. They were trying to get
someone equipped to handle a monkey, like with tranquilizers and stuff.
Taking it really seriously. It says that they were equipped
to rescue monkeys the sanctuary. Let me find this other
one here, Okay. It says spoke with resident at Athan
Harrison Department last night video scene so they saw the
video of this. At least four or more last scene

(02:07:59):
through the woods at eb And Cemetery. No sign on
camera of residents unknown who they belonged to, has been
advised to contact PIO. So we've got at least four
monkeys apes on the loose in this area.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
And first off, if they were domesticated monkeys or from
a zoo or a pat yeah, they don't go into woods. Yeah,
they stay in the cities, you know, where they know,
you know, where everything's familiar. They don't head to the woods.

Speaker 10 (02:08:34):
The cool thing about this call incident was that, unlike
the the one that Santa Fe, tex Is, I think
at least three people were interviewed about this came forward.
One woman saw them next to her garbage cans, said
they were at least like four feet tall, long arms,
no tails, long arms. It was near her garbage cans.
She gave an interview to the local news about this.

(02:08:55):
I couldn't find a report about this is what she
told them. And again guy who took the video said
they were big. Didn't see any type of tail or anything.
Nothing about that in the in the reports. And it
gets really it gets really weird. If I can read
this next part right here. Again, another call from somebody
else compiled into this. Complainant was watching the news and

(02:09:17):
was told if they have info dot dot dot. Compilant
advised her dog was barking at a screaming creature in
the tree on Easter and it was a monkey. This
is not even the same time frame. This is a
different day she's talking about. She saw this thing and
her dog went after it in a tree. It was
screaming at it on Easter. It was a monkey. Then

(02:09:40):
it ran to the top of the tree of a
swaying tree. The body of the monkey was Koala bear
size monkey, last seen Easter. Sunday. Can call if needed
to want her to confirm. So we've got someone calling saying, hey,
I saw this thing on Easter. It was in the
tree he's running in the tree. My dog barked. Add

(02:10:02):
it went to the top of tree. It was freeing
at my dog, and she said it was a monkey.
It's crazy, the size of a koala. And then here
kind of you can kind of see where the cover
up kind of starts. Right here they talk about another
person separate again, we should have a separate call for
her as that she could hear monkeys up in a

(02:10:23):
tree at her location. Stownes only recorded no visual. I
don't know where that recording is. It should have been
in the foy request. Can hear some kind of animal
sounds from the woods? No visual woods at interaction of
globul and bracken woods. And then it says right here
it is where no monkeys, just owls, just located owls.

(02:10:48):
Incident has been closed about an hour. About an hour later,
Shasta police go to another location. Heard monkeys in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
So there so they blame it on like baroles and they.

Speaker 9 (02:11:04):
Blame it on o.

Speaker 2 (02:11:08):
God.

Speaker 10 (02:11:09):
After video multiple people seeing this, a woman saying that
her went out and her dog barked at it. It's
the monkeys framed at her dog. It went up and
swung around in a tree, owls don't do that. It's weird.

Speaker 9 (02:11:23):
It's weird.

Speaker 7 (02:11:24):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (02:11:25):
And this just kind of reminds me so much of
that Santa Fe interaction. Had so many people out there
looking for it, didn't find anything.

Speaker 21 (02:11:31):
With all the modern technology, drones, dogs, you know, radios, everything, nothing.
This is two cases where we have in you know,
modern America, we can't find monkeys running around. Are they
truly monkeys?

Speaker 10 (02:11:45):
Is it something else?

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Apparently these monkeys were as tall as a garbage can,
long arms, long arms ship. It sounds like, uh, general
bigfoots is what it sounds like.

Speaker 10 (02:11:58):
I have I think that I include the other one
in here, so I have three more of those. This
is probably the most significant one. The other one was
the guy who took the video. He basically says the
same things. Three to four foot tall. He says, they
were walking down the street. He says this, and they're
walking down the street. Yeah. We never got any closure
for this either. Uh yeah, no nine to one phone

(02:12:22):
calls crazy. Yeah, just it's it's it just happens too often. Man,
it's happened. It seems like it. I don't know, I
don't know. Really monkeys, it's a weird it's a weird thing.
Let's see what else we got?

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
What you got, Eric, what you got?

Speaker 10 (02:12:43):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (02:12:45):
I love this. This is interesting as heck. I'm digging this.

Speaker 10 (02:12:49):
Yeah, well, what do you guys think about those monkeys?

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
Was it just I think it's a chance it could
be juvenile orphaned juvenile big ones.

Speaker 9 (02:12:59):
Well they just closed it out, didn't really get curious.
Is odd? You know, you think they'd let's just assume
that it's just chimpanzees that from someone's private collection. Wouldn't
you be really concerned about getting it under control?

Speaker 10 (02:13:16):
Right, it's owls, you know, So that's it. Guys.

Speaker 9 (02:13:21):
That's just strange that they would.

Speaker 10 (02:13:23):
Just let it go. And then less than an hour later,
somebody else calls, hey, we see monkeys. The fact that
they compiled all this stuff into like we should have
at least like eight nine reports, individual reports, nine one
one phone calls, all that stuff and they just bolk
it together. Here you go, this is it, you know, like,
it's that's weird audio.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
That's just weird.

Speaker 10 (02:13:44):
Everything they're talking about. We should have, like they said
that audio was recorded, we should have that video. They
saw the video that should be in there. No, no,
that's included, and all you can find is a really
grainy video.

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
News agency All Black were the one the blurry video
of them. How big did they look to you?

Speaker 9 (02:14:06):
Eric?

Speaker 21 (02:14:06):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (02:14:06):
They yeah, at least at least four feet at least. Okay,
I feel like you can see legs dangling. That's what
I feel like. You can see legs dangling.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Yeah, that's interesting, it is interesting.

Speaker 10 (02:14:17):
It's up there again, no closure. We don't know what
this was. We should know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
It's like a flap. It's a flap of monkey flap, flap,
flap of monkeys.

Speaker 10 (02:14:28):
Okay, So we have we have the Santa Fe incident,
which is right in that neighborhood. We've got the Harrison
County bigfoot sighting, which is just a little bit of ways.
We got the Harrison, we got the Kasachi National Force
with just a little east. And then if you follow
that line against the Ohio right there, you know, it's
interesting if you follow the yeah, the reports, weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
Yeah, I mean that area is known. I mean just
south of there is.

Speaker 10 (02:14:58):
You know, it's a lot of oh yeah, you hear it. Yeah,
you hear all types of interesting stuff going out there.
And now it was just stories. But now we have
the documentation. People are seeing things. Nine one one was contacted.
You can't. It's no longer just stories. It's it's factual data.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
It's yeah, because if you go north of Cincinnati, I
think it's north, you hit like soul Fork here.

Speaker 10 (02:15:22):
Yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:24):
Yeah, I just I just pulled the video off of YouTube.
Oh cool, Okay, I can't. I haven't watched it yet,
so I apologize in advance if there's any kind of
inappropriate Yeah, but let's let's let's take a look.

Speaker 10 (02:15:39):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
There we go.

Speaker 10 (02:15:42):
They're just sitting there. That's it.

Speaker 9 (02:15:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:15:44):
They were swinging from the trees.

Speaker 4 (02:15:48):
And there's one down below you.

Speaker 11 (02:15:54):
Yeah, I'm so glad for that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Oh my god, there right there, right there, that's.

Speaker 22 (02:16:09):
Right here.

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
Nobody could collected them. You would think they would react
to the light. They're just sitting there.

Speaker 10 (02:16:17):
Just sitting there.

Speaker 9 (02:16:18):
Man, it's weird.

Speaker 10 (02:16:19):
It's don't they look big?

Speaker 9 (02:16:23):
They do?

Speaker 2 (02:16:23):
They look they look pretty big.

Speaker 10 (02:16:25):
They look afty.

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
They're not monkeys.

Speaker 10 (02:16:28):
I don't think they're monkeys. Have no tails and everything
from as tall as the garbage can long arms. I
have that guy's report. That guy's name was Lucky. I
have his report. It's in the book. Everything you talk about,
it's all in. It's all and I have everything from there.

Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
And the guy goes, they were swinging from the trees.

Speaker 10 (02:16:47):
Swinging from the trees, and that's in there. That's someone
else says that in a different report. So not even coroborating.

Speaker 2 (02:16:54):
Have you ever seen have you ever seen that upstate
wood it's not woodstock, but it's in that area where
it looks like a bigfoot, you know, like a big yeah,
walks up to the tree and one of the thing
on its back leaps into the tree and it's like
swinging and swinging for that.

Speaker 10 (02:17:16):
I was.

Speaker 2 (02:17:18):
Like one of the first guys to Matt Moneymakers sent
that to me years and many many years ago to
start analyzing it, and it it's just like unexplained, but
it looks like the thing is a juvenile bigfoot, because
you have to kind of infer when a big, husky
wide creature walks up to a tree and then something

(02:17:42):
small leaps up into the tree. People are saying, well,
it's a guy with his pet, Like it's not a guy.

Speaker 10 (02:17:50):
Now I've seen that is Yeah, the way that things
moving is incredible, and yeah, the thing that's standing on
it's Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
Somebody mentioned there's an interview two of the guy or something.

Speaker 10 (02:18:05):
See I gotta hear that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:07):
Says Kenny. Kenny says, we're using the term monkey instead
of bigfoot and search terms help the US armchair researchers. Yes,
I sure, I think so.

Speaker 10 (02:18:21):
Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of the documents
you've seen people classify these things as monkeys. If that's
you know, what they are whatever. I think that's just
a common terminology when people don't know what they're saying.
It's ok with something, it's a monkey.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
And then apparently Stephanie says, Jeff, exactly did you get
the video of the interviews? Apparently, take a look. See
if you can find it. Let's move on and then
we can come back. Jeff. See if you can find something,
Let's go and move on to a new story. That
was great.

Speaker 10 (02:18:52):
If you have a second, Jeff, it's twenty two. What
it is to do this is kind of a I
think this is up in your neck of the woods here, guys.
I don't know where you are, Jeff, but I know
you're up.

Speaker 9 (02:19:05):
No, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm your I'm in Minnesota.
We're both okay, cold, cool cool. What's the weather like
that there? Hot?

Speaker 10 (02:19:14):
It's like one hundred over here in ninety.

Speaker 9 (02:19:16):
It's unusually hot. It's gonna hit ninety on Friday. Amp here,
that's too much.

Speaker 10 (02:19:21):
Okay. So this is from I don't know how you
say it, WASHINGTONA County Sheriff's Office. I'm saying that right,
and I believe that is near ann Arbor, Michigan. This
was taken again in September nine, six, twenty twenty two,
at midnight, Yeah, twelve thirty one am. Location redacted, dispatch

(02:19:46):
offense redacted. Let's go ahead and read this at the bottom,
it says the narrative by gives the name of the officer.
It says wild Clear. I guess that's wild Clears. I
guess it's wild Clad, Okay. Be don's okay? Okay. So midnight,

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twelve thirty two, call her out in the wilderness and
a jeep at tree form just heard someone yell outside.
Caller thinks it's bigfoot again. Wildclear's caller says he wants
to go to the hospital to get out of the
tree farm HbA to stage wandersome back to line trooper

(02:20:31):
can move the sidebark to left to open the fence.
Was calling for extra ETA secure HbA. So this was
a guy who was basically stranded in a tree farm
in the middle of the night and after midnight for
whatever reason, he calls the emergency services staying that he

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hears someone screaming out there, and he says, I think
it might be Bigfoot again, which again is really interesting.
Why he included that this guy was taken to the hospital.
We know he was taken to the hospital. And guess
what happens when he goes to the hospital. It's a
hippo exemption. We don't get any more information. So we

(02:21:19):
know this guy references Bigfoot. It seems like he's injured,
and he's taken to the hospital. So it's it's weird.
I mean, I've talked about this and people are like,
was he attacked? Was his vehicle attacked? What happened? Again,
this is one of those rescues, Doug He had to

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be rescued from the area. He's terrified, claims Bigfoot is yelly.
It just follows kind of that same pattern of people
trying to relocate from an area where they feel in
danger because of alleged bigfoot. Yeah, it's weird, man, it's

(02:22:02):
a it's interesting nine to one one and again, like
I said, no more information because it's for you. Yep, yeah,
I mean this one was cool, but it just really
kind of I would have loved to hear that phone call, right,
imagine hearing that phone call. Unfortunately, again the agencies, Uh,
they deleted after sixty ninety days. It's a no phone call.

(02:22:24):
But would have been cool. Would have been cool. So
here the panic in his voice, I see a big
You know what did he exactly say? What did he
really say? We don't know what he really said? There's
no transcript, is there is there any?

Speaker 2 (02:22:37):
Is there any way Eric? You could do a blanket.
You could take it like a hotspot area and do
a blanket for your record, saying any future.

Speaker 10 (02:22:49):
Oh, any future, do a future for you. I wish
that name like that would be awesome. Dog. We wouldn't
miss anything, we would you.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
Golly, But what would it hurt to try? I mean,
you never know, maybe gathering gathering.

Speaker 10 (02:23:09):
There's no law that'says you can so oh, okay, okay, cool,
I just found something good.

Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
It's like a future pardon right, right, somebody if they
haven't committed to that time they might do or might get.

Speaker 10 (02:23:27):
It's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (02:23:30):
They can do that. You got to be able to
do future for you.

Speaker 10 (02:23:35):
So let's take a trip to Florida. All right, let's
see what Florida's got.

Speaker 2 (02:23:40):
I'm closing my eyes.

Speaker 10 (02:23:43):
Okay. So again, this was an internal email and never
meant to reach the light of day. Got through this
through an email server. So I actually got this. I
believe I got this. Oh no, no, okay, Yeah, So
I got this from the Fish and Wildlife of Florida.

(02:24:04):
And this is from a Guano Tomato Batanas National Research Reserve.
So it's a research reserve in Florida. It's very restricted.
And I'll just read you what the title says. The
title subject line of this email is called track casts.

Speaker 9 (02:24:27):
Is that number twenty four?

Speaker 10 (02:24:29):
Oh? Sorry? Yeah, sorry, sorry, I thought I I told you.
I got excited here I found it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:35):
Yeah, you're so organized. You don't even need to tell jobs.

Speaker 10 (02:24:39):
You just know you gotta have to be with these,
you know, with these or else. Yeah, you'll lose them coincidentally. Okay,
So it says, hey, Christine, I checked the tracks about
eleven pm today and none of them were completely dry.
Mind you, this guy said he's checking the tracks at
eleven pm. Hitch black in a swam up in Florida.

(02:25:01):
What the hell? Why are you checking tracks at that
late at night? Crazy? It says the Bigfoot track was
almost dry, but the toes were still wet, probably because
we use the remixed plaster on booth and the plaster
mixed in the field on the rest of the foot.
We're going to give them all another two days to
dry before I go back out to get them. Sorry

(02:25:23):
about the pre mixing idea, Live and learn, though, some
good news. The deer Raccoon cast cast Sunday. We're good
and you'll be able to use those. And then the
bottom one is really interesting. I think this last line
is really interesting if they're still not dry by Wednesday.
It's talking about the Bigfoot tracks. I'll make some new
ones on the tracks I can find out there with

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the correct plaster cast of procedures. So he talks about
casting Bigfoot tracks and this.

Speaker 2 (02:25:53):
He's talking about procedures. What the procedures that that's kind
of a loaded words using yeah and.

Speaker 10 (02:26:03):
And the fact that he's saying like he's checking the
swamp at eleven pm, what the heck are you doing?
Like are you doing this in the cover of darkness
so people don't see you going out to this area
like really weird. And the fact that he says, like, Oh,
I'll just I'll cast some more on the ones I
could find out there, like they're just readily available out there.
It's crazy. I thought that was really interesting. And again,

(02:26:23):
these people never thought this was gonna get public. They're
comfortable talking amongst each other.

Speaker 2 (02:26:29):
It's another case of the hairless monkeys. It's something code word,
code word, right, monkeys.

Speaker 10 (02:26:39):
It's definitely something. So, yeah, that's the one I got
out of Florida. I've got some interesting stuff out of
Florida I've had. I didn't put this in there because
it's kind of a dead end, but it says Chaka
photos and it's from another park. These two internal employees
are kind of discussing what they think is in this
image that they're sharing. That image should be in the

(02:27:04):
email chain that I received through the foyer, but it's not.
One guy says, oh, it looks like a bigfoot, and
the other guy says, it looks like a kid with
like a like a gilli suit on or something, and
so they're kind of debating on what this image is.
I can't see what the image is. So I'm doing
another four year request to see if I can get

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that actual image that they're kind of talking about in there.

Speaker 2 (02:27:29):
And who are these people? I wish I could read
the headline. I can't.

Speaker 10 (02:27:32):
Oh, this one is, uh who are these people? So
this was taking This was taken on twenty ten. This
is in twenty ten, and the person at the bottom
is the uh yeah information specialist Christie. Yeah, yeah, I

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got that out of Florida. I've got these guys kind
of sharing a photo of a giant fog and they're
kind of talking among themselves. They say, between this hog
in Bigfoot, we know where why people go missing and
stuff like that. It was interesting, really, I mean, yeah,
was it jest or not? I mean it's interesting that yeah, right, Yeah.

(02:28:20):
I shouldn't really joking about that.

Speaker 2 (02:28:22):
I wouldn't think they were.

Speaker 10 (02:28:23):
I wouldn't think, yeah, you would think, but it's interesting.
They were like, oh, between this and you know Bigfoot,
we know how people go missing.

Speaker 9 (02:28:31):
It's crazy. Yeah, we need to talk about age.

Speaker 10 (02:28:40):
Yeah, I think I got like one more maybe which
one the need double check. So it is, uh, it's
just twenty five. It's not it's not a document, but
the document it is in my book. It's this is
kind of what the document is referring to. And it's
kind of hard to see, but if you guys are aware,
a lot of researchers, especially out of Florida, talk about

(02:29:02):
the no taking of skunk ape clause in some of
these parks in Florida. I actually got this not through
a state but through federal. I got this through a
federal Fish and Wildlife for your request, which is really interesting.
I'll read it. I can read read it. Say. It

(02:29:24):
just says specific hunting regulations hogs, no size or bag
limit for hogs. It says take them all hogs during
the hunt season. And then at the bottom it says
designated archery areas only crossbows allowed, Coyote may be taken
during archery muzzle loading season. And at the bottom the

(02:29:44):
very last thing it says, it says there is no
taking of swamp or skunk apes. And that was a
brochure that was published in a couple of I know
for a fact when a couple of nationally preserved parks.
Was that like the federal government kind of takes care
of And that's where I got We know, I know
for a fact why that clause was put in there.

(02:30:06):
There's no speculation. I have the document. I got it
from the actual ranger who talked about it, and it's
written from the ranger. I'm trying to find it here. Sorry,
It's written from the ranger about why he decided to
include the note taking of skunk ape clause. God right here. Okay,

(02:30:32):
So this was It's not that far ago. And again
I got this through the federal and it basically says
that I'll read it too. While I do not have
an easily findable administrative record of this phone call, I
may have written a note in my yearly notebooks. In

(02:30:54):
or around two thousand and eight, I received a phone
call from this gentleman who had a YouTube channel and
called himself Mothman, and his phone called the gentleman thanked me.
Thank the Refuge for stating in their annual no hunt
brochure that there is no taking of swamper skunk apes
during our hunt season. I was inclined to include the

(02:31:16):
no take clause in the annual hunt brochure due to
an undocumented in person conversation I had with an hunter.
I had with a hunter who advocated me to not
allow this and to clearly state that in our hunt
to clearly state in our hunt brochure this I did.
The gentleman then phoned me as he hunts in the

(02:31:39):
Lower Swanee. He spoke with me for close to an
hour and exhorted me to look at his channel to
see if Linthy interviews with hunters who witnessed the Swamper
Skunk Ape. They are known as skasquatch or bigfoot in
this part of the US. So that's a document right
there that a hunter. We don't exactly know it's It's

(02:32:04):
weird because he kind of gives two He kind of
refers to two people in that. I think he's referring
to someone who wanted to thank him for putting that
in there, and then I'm not sure if it's the
same or another hunter who was actually able to convince
him to include this note take of skunk gave clause
in this brochure. It's really kind of muddled on on

(02:32:28):
the information of that, but we know for a fact
that the guy was persuaded by a hunter to not
include a no taking of skullcape clause. What in the
world did this guy show him? What did he show
him that to make him say you can't take a skuncap.
I believe he did show him something pretty interesting in
that to convince him.

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
But yeah, well, let's get out of let's get out
of foyer, and let's go down and actually up and
then down on the strange thing at you phone cool. Yeah,
maybe can just tell his story briefly, because this is
this is so weird, extremely Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:33:10):
I I had found this structure while research and doing
my research in the area. And again, I kind of
got a lot of flak from some of the Bigfoot
people when this documentary came out because they were like, oh,
you know, it's not focused on Bigfoot. I wasn't trying
to make a big Foot documentary. I was trying to
make a documentary on the Brushy Creeks because of all
the weird stuff that happened. And so while I'm doing this,

(02:33:33):
a friend of mine, a longtime friend of mine, reached
out to me saying, Hey, my brother's a construction worker
and him and his buddy found this. I think it
was like the year, like last year, a couple of
months before, and he was like, I thought you'd be
interested in looking at it. And all the footage is
in my documentary. There's a guy holding up the phone
vertically and he's filming these guys as they're discovering this.

(02:33:57):
I hold in the hole in the ground that was
covered up by sticks and dirt, and they're removing all
this stuff and they were moving. They find this weird
structure and it's like a little stone structure, circular stone structure.

Speaker 2 (02:34:12):
But to be clear, if somebody would have walked on
top of that brush, they would have fallen into.

Speaker 10 (02:34:17):
Oh yeah, yeah. So it took me about two weeks
to find this actual area. The guy didn't give me
any location because I don't think he could give me
a precise location. He didn't know the coordinates or anything
like that. So I used GPS to kind of search
the area. But after like two weeks, I was able
to find this. And we, honestly, we weren't prepared to
find it because we've been out there before. I didn't

(02:34:37):
think we were gonna find anything. So we actually found it,
we're like, oh, you know, let's check it out. So
we're totally ill prepared for it. And uh but that's
kind of what was in the documentary. But uh, yeah,
no one would have been able to find this place.
It was covered up. They it's like they tried to
hide it or something. And the construction workers only found
it because they were building some power lines through that

(02:34:58):
area near that near that area.

Speaker 9 (02:35:00):
So yeah, and the.

Speaker 10 (02:35:01):
Video is like the guys are terrified. You can see
the guy and he's just kind of like his handshaking.
You see a guy standing outside and it just kind
of like, I'm not going in there. You know. It's weird,
and I don't blame him. If you're stumbling upon this,
it's as creepy as hell. Yeah, if you want to
take a look at some more of these pictures, that's
my friend.

Speaker 2 (02:35:20):
They even kind of flip through them.

Speaker 10 (02:35:21):
And you can flip through all of them. Yeah, so
that's the actual.

Speaker 9 (02:35:24):
Face right there.

Speaker 2 (02:35:25):
Okay, so this is on this is down in a hole. Yeah, okay,
so let's just think this. It's up a mountain, then
down a hole. Someone builds this very bigfoot like or
carves or I don't even know how they made it.
It's it's what concrete.

Speaker 10 (02:35:44):
It's like concrete and maybe like some other stuff that
they on top of it. Yeah, to kind of help,
you know, for or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:35:51):
Clearly a cartoon representation.

Speaker 10 (02:35:54):
Oh yeah, I'm really I'm really interested in those dots
under the eyes. They're like dots like almost like a yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:36:02):
Are there are there more pictures there?

Speaker 10 (02:36:05):
Yeah? There should be a couple more in there. Yeah,
it's it's weird. You can see the size of my
buddy stands next to it. It's huge, you know, it's
not his size. And right next to it, I don't
know if you can see that, there's like a breathing hole. Yeah,
so it's weird. Like a lot of people said, what
were they saying? A root cellar and stuff like that.
But when you see the breathing holes in the giant
face and also the stone.

Speaker 2 (02:36:27):
Door, I know, the door is the next thing.

Speaker 10 (02:36:30):
That's the door. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Yeah, so this is the door. But it locks so
you can lock something in.

Speaker 10 (02:36:37):
Yeah, there's no handle anything from the inside. It only
locks from the outside, that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:43):
Yeah, so you lock something inside it not outside.

Speaker 10 (02:36:48):
And that door was made in like the nineteen forties.
It was with able to stand a nuclear blast.

Speaker 2 (02:36:53):
It was like a vault. Yeah, it's a vault.

Speaker 10 (02:36:55):
It was a vault door, yeah, most of it. I
think it was the company that built it. They're no
longer out.

Speaker 2 (02:36:59):
I think what was the name of the company again, Mostler,
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well coming back, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:37:06):
It's uh, it's creepy. I mean it's thick, old door.
So the weight of it was cool my god, yeah,
it was over I think thirteen hundred pounds. Yeah, something
wild in that. I think the frame.

Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
How do you haul at thirteen hundred pound door up
a mountain? Okay, dig dig down a hole? Yeah, and
then build this this it was like a natural cave
that they walled off and then installed the door in bars.

Speaker 10 (02:37:34):
And so, I mean there's trees and brush everywhere. There's
no machine that you can drive up to it, like
you'd have to road down. No road, no road.

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
It's very clear there's no road to get.

Speaker 10 (02:37:44):
Here, no road to get there, middle of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (02:37:48):
And then the fact it was hidden.

Speaker 10 (02:37:50):
Yeah, they buried it. Yeah, so they dug it out.
It was partially buried. They dug it out. There was
a bunch of stakes on top that they removed it
all and this is what was left.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
And do you have any of the interior, because I
know you went.

Speaker 10 (02:38:03):
I think I have the inside of the frame. Uh yeah,
it should be in there, and the inside it was,
it was, it was, that's the there's no you know,
there's no pandel on that door. That's the inside right there.
That's one of the frame. That's the piece of the frame.
If you, I think, let me see if I can,
if you want to play video of it, I think
let's see. Give me one second. All that's good play.

Speaker 2 (02:38:32):
Yeah, it is insane because for what reason?

Speaker 10 (02:38:37):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:38:38):
If you're gonna build it for you, it's like a
bomb shelter or whatever. You're gonna have a door knob
on the inside, not just on the outside, not the
lock on the outside. It was meant to hold something in.
And then of course everybody's mind thinks, oh, it's like
a serial killers uh Dom style that he built to

(02:39:02):
you know, And did you ever get hold of the
police on this, Eric can report it? No you should.

Speaker 10 (02:39:12):
I don't know if I should. I don't know if
you should, well, I don't know if we should have
been there.

Speaker 2 (02:39:17):
Honestly, well, there's no there was was there any no truth,
There's no there was no.

Speaker 10 (02:39:23):
I didn't no, but we did try to go back
maybe a year or two ago, about a year and
a half ago, and the whole area was painted in purple,
purple dashes, purple fence post. I don't know if you
guys know about the purple fence post law, but in Texas,
the purple fence post law means if you pass the

(02:39:44):
purple fence, they can shoot without question. It's just open
your open season. They can shoot without asking any questions.

Speaker 2 (02:39:50):
Okay, So this particular landmark, whenever it maybe had some purple.

Speaker 10 (02:39:57):
Path where after this documentary came out, Ah, there was
a lot of purple everywhere all through there was purple, really,
and we learned about that in elementary school. Not to
pass the purple.

Speaker 2 (02:40:09):
I've never heard that.

Speaker 9 (02:40:12):
It's interesting.

Speaker 10 (02:40:12):
Yeah, you look it up. It's a real thing. I
don't know if you saw that thing I sent you, Jeff,
I send you something on Facebook, I think email to you.
But that video has a little bit of the interior.

Speaker 2 (02:40:26):
How thick were those walls, Eric, how thick were the walls?

Speaker 10 (02:40:31):
Oh, it's it was, oh man, at least a foot
and a half thick maybe, And is.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
It true it was a natural cave that they walled off.

Speaker 10 (02:40:42):
So I mean this area is just full of caves everywhere.
We're part of the Balcone's discarment. And like I said,
Harryman Road is full of caves, houses, caved in, uh,
caves everywhere. And I while I was researching this, I
actually found a document from the Central Texas spur Lunking
Group group. The ghosts looked for caves and stuff, and

(02:41:06):
they documented over five hundred caves in my county alone,
and they were estimating there could be like three thousand
undiscovered caves. So I mean it's caves everywhere, all over
the place. And some of these caves they found like
ancient rope from the native tribes that were out there.
They were like climbed down they found ancient rope. There's

(02:41:26):
one that was in my town. I think they blocked
it off now, but it was called breathing cave. The
reason that it was called breathing cave is you would
be able to put like a two by four in
the small entrance and it would blow out, like forced
from the cave would blow this two by four out.
And the University of Texas went out there they did
some investigations, and they thought their equipment was broken. They

(02:41:48):
wanted to go back out and retest it because they
said that when they measured it what happened. What was
happening was it was like a gigantic stadium sized chamber
forcing air into this small chamber, which was causing this
explosion of air. And but the size of it again
would have been like a stadium underneath the ground. So
they thought that there's something had malfunctioned and they were

(02:42:08):
going to come back and test it, and they never did.
So that was everywhere.

Speaker 9 (02:42:15):
Right here for you.

Speaker 10 (02:42:17):
This is part of the documentary. You don't have to
play the audio. I don't want you to get in trouble.
That's just some graffiti we found really weird, uh binary code.
So that's the original video.

Speaker 9 (02:42:36):
It's bizarre.

Speaker 10 (02:42:37):
Yeah, and it's we didn't find the end of the cave.
It just went like all different areas down to Yeah,
this is just like a slow motion of it. But yeah.
So this is the actual construction workers when they were
digging it out.

Speaker 2 (02:42:59):
So was there dirt in there too or just sticks?

Speaker 10 (02:43:02):
There was a lot of dirt by the by the entrance,
by the sides, by the door, there were some good
amount of dirt that I don't know if it came
from the outside in Yeah, most likely yea, but yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:43:14):
So you're pretty sure it was abandoned or whatever for sure.

Speaker 10 (02:43:18):
Yeah, it was definitely abandoned. Yeah, for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (02:43:21):
I mean, yeah, I love to know the history of
this place.

Speaker 10 (02:43:28):
Yeah. And we went in there, like you know, idiots
without any gear, and that door could have closed and
we would have no one would have known that. Yeah, terrifying.

Speaker 2 (02:43:37):
Yeah, it's like it's right out of a real creepy movie.

Speaker 10 (02:43:43):
Definitely creepy. Yeah, it's my friend David, really nice guy, fearless.
This guy was feeling David. No, David wanted to keep going.
He's like, flash lights, we don't need flash lights, Like,
what are you talking about. We don't need flash lights.

Speaker 2 (02:43:59):
We don't need we don't need no stinking badges exactly.

Speaker 10 (02:44:04):
Yeah, he was fearless. I'm not. Yeah, somebody put a
lot a lot of work into this thing. Breathing holes,
the face.

Speaker 2 (02:44:13):
I wish we had a close up of the face.

Speaker 10 (02:44:16):
I think I think I get close to it here,
give me a second.

Speaker 2 (02:44:19):
I want to see the eye.

Speaker 10 (02:44:21):
So that's the size of it. I mean it's massive.
There's the door.

Speaker 2 (02:44:29):
Did it have a combination lock on it?

Speaker 10 (02:44:32):
No, No, it might have it if something broke off
from the front. It looked like so we can't tell.
I think it was there.

Speaker 2 (02:44:39):
There we go, There we go, there we go. It
looks like a whacked out big butt.

Speaker 10 (02:44:45):
And it's got lines like hair. That's kind of what
I interpreted at, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:44:48):
It's like, you know what, it'd be cool to show
this too. It just would be Scott Wolder.

Speaker 10 (02:44:54):
Okay, I've I've heard that name talked about before. The
He does like stone stone stuff, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:45:03):
He does a lot of like you know, weird structures
and like that gult area. He yeah, ages things and
you know he I think he kind of got made
a name for himself working on the Ruined stone Okay,
yea up here in Minnesota that was said to be
you know, had Viking and descriptions on it, and whether

(02:45:26):
it was fake or really old. The vikings really were there,
and it's still controversy. You know, to him it was real.

Speaker 9 (02:45:36):
This wasn't a casual effort.

Speaker 2 (02:45:38):
This is something Oh no, that's but the problem was, Jeff,
how do you get up there? How do you haul
at thirteen under door.

Speaker 9 (02:45:49):
But the reason, it's just why. I mean, that's a
that's a big project. You had to have a really
good reason. You're not doing that on a whim. You're not.
It's not kids doing it to screw around. I mean,
it's there's a reason they put it there.

Speaker 2 (02:46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:46:02):
Yeah, And I haven't heard a good one yet, you know, I've.

Speaker 9 (02:46:06):
Heard that I could think of is I know, the
parks are which will seal off caves that are dangerous,
but A it would still be sealed and be there'd
be a record of it. I mean it would be
it would be public knowledge. It'd be posted. You know
what I mean. We have that is that is kind
of normal, but it would be clearly posted.

Speaker 10 (02:46:22):
We've got games all over, We've got caves all over
that have been sealed off and normally they have good bars, yeah,
bars in front of them. They're everywhere here.

Speaker 9 (02:46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:46:30):
There's a famous one called Airman's Cave, which is a
little bit more in the central area of from where
I am, and there's a this is rumored like it
goes so far. There's like these gigantic like Superman crystals
at the end of this place, only like four people
have ever gotten to the end of it. One guy
who writes this awesome journal about it. I think it

(02:46:51):
took him twelve hours to like crawl to the end
of this thing. Insane. But yeah, there was just caves everywhere,
Airman's Cave and when it's there's a lot of rumors
and speculations about that one too, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:47:04):
So you don't feel like you'd be welcome to go
back there confident, No.

Speaker 10 (02:47:10):
Not while that purple stuff is there. I don't want
to take a chance yet. I'm not joking. That's what
we learned about that elementary. Like I remember the day,
like a sheriff came up. He said, hey, kids, we
got a new law. It's like, you know, don't pass
the fencer. You'll get shot in the face. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
So, uh, I'm this's gotta be more you can do
on that.

Speaker 10 (02:47:35):
Yeah, I've I've I've talked to locks and myths about
the door and stuff seeing if I can get any
more information, like to see who was sold to and
stuff like that. There was no serial number on it,
can't We looked everywhere for a serial number, couldn't find it. Uh,
And that was odd. They said it should have had
a serial number. They told us where it should have
been and can find it. Yeah, it's in Texas, Nick, Yeah,

(02:47:59):
Central Texas, the Hill Country, and we call it the
hill Country. How far from your home is this, Oh,
that's thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:48:09):
Maybe you should go there every day then, Eric.

Speaker 10 (02:48:13):
Oh, they got the purple Doug. I would be if
they didn't have that purple.

Speaker 2 (02:48:17):
Well, yeah, obviously you take that very very seriously.

Speaker 10 (02:48:23):
You have to. You have to no, I mean throwing
up here. I've been chased off with a shotgun before.

Speaker 2 (02:48:29):
You know, so, yeah, I gotcha. Gosh, it's just so creepy.
So everybody in chat, if you could tell us what
you think it is, don't be shy, type in what.

Speaker 9 (02:48:42):
You think it is.

Speaker 10 (02:48:43):
I mean I've heard like dungeon, you know, that's what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:48:47):
It's got dungeon vibes.

Speaker 10 (02:48:49):
Man, it's got dungeon vibes. It does got dungeon vibes.

Speaker 2 (02:48:52):
Yeah, I just that's why I'm wondering if you shouldn't
report it to the police. If you're done with it,
you won't go back.

Speaker 10 (02:49:00):
Yeah, that's actually and you have the coordin.

Speaker 2 (02:49:02):
I would I would call a police department.

Speaker 10 (02:49:05):
I might, I might do that, Doug. That's that's valid.

Speaker 2 (02:49:07):
Yeah, yeah, because the problem.

Speaker 9 (02:49:12):
Afterwards.

Speaker 2 (02:49:14):
Yeah, right, you have ever done a foy on this thing?

Speaker 9 (02:49:17):
I don't know, I Doug.

Speaker 10 (02:49:19):
I tried not to do. I used to do foys
in my area and I don't do that anymore. Well,
once I learned we don't have a medical examiner, I
don't do that.

Speaker 17 (02:49:29):
I got you.

Speaker 10 (02:49:32):
Because there's some really controversial stuff that's happened in the town.
But that's a whole documentary by itself, and I'm not
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (02:49:41):
I don't. I didn't. I didn't hear a word you said.

Speaker 10 (02:49:43):
There you go, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:49:45):
I don't know anything you're talking about. All right, thank
you so much. Can we get you back when you
get your doc done?

Speaker 10 (02:49:56):
Absolutely? I would love to come on and show you guys.

Speaker 9 (02:49:59):
Yeah, this has been great. This, this this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:50:02):
Let's stay in touch. I will be in touch on
my results on the job.

Speaker 10 (02:50:07):
I was going to ask you, yes, I was going
to ask you about that. Yes, do you want to
show it?

Speaker 2 (02:50:11):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (02:50:12):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (02:50:14):
Do? I I sent you the I sent you.

Speaker 10 (02:50:19):
Well, I thought you wanted what what you did with it?

Speaker 2 (02:50:22):
Well, you could do that too. Sure, it's kind of weird.

Speaker 10 (02:50:25):
Does Jeff have it? Well? Did you show up the
original first?

Speaker 8 (02:50:28):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:50:29):
I kept I kept my word.

Speaker 2 (02:50:31):
I didn't share it with it.

Speaker 10 (02:50:32):
I'll send you to you real quick. Jeff, what's that?

Speaker 2 (02:50:35):
H I gept my word.

Speaker 10 (02:50:38):
I shared it with I appreciate that with Eric.

Speaker 2 (02:50:43):
So basically, it's a job. He got a photo from
a foyo and I think the foyo was up in Alaska.

Speaker 10 (02:50:54):
But the actually it was in California.

Speaker 9 (02:50:57):
That was my bad.

Speaker 10 (02:50:58):
I'm California, Washington. Excuse me why she didn't?

Speaker 2 (02:51:00):
Sorry?

Speaker 9 (02:51:01):
Sorry, he told me that once and never left my hand.

Speaker 2 (02:51:04):
So it was Washington gets this foya and they're talking
about this job bone and the job bone apparently doesn't match.
Any animal, doesn't manche, any primate, doesn't matge human.

Speaker 10 (02:51:19):
It was acquired from what we believe to be a
biologist in a private collection. He's had it for over
thirty years. Allegedly this person died, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:51:29):
And we found it. He founded in Washington though.

Speaker 10 (02:51:32):
Found in Washington in a forest, North Washington.

Speaker 2 (02:51:37):
Yeah, so I'm planning, just so people know what I'm
planning and doing. Dental experts anthropologists are all going to
have its say at this, But before I did that,
I took it. I like to educate myself so I
don't get bisD I don't like being bs by either
lazy anthropologists and that doesn't have ads human They don't

(02:52:00):
even really examine it, right, the joking conclusions. So I
wanted to do my own due diligence. I studied every
divot in the jaw. I wanted to see is that
a tooth divot or is that a nerve? Because there's
a couple of obviously two sockets, and then there's a
couple of divots that aren't two sockets, but they're for

(02:52:22):
nerves and arteries in a jaw right, And then there's
the two ones at the bottom, the two holes at
the bottom. Those are also lifelines for blood and nerves.
But I'm talking about the ones in the actual the
teeth are there's some dibots.

Speaker 10 (02:52:40):
And it's thick to me. Maybe it's just me, but
it looks it looks.

Speaker 2 (02:52:43):
Yeah, Well what's thicker is the hinges. But they're not
wide enough to be chump, they're not wide enough to
be gorilla, So they're very human like in distance, but
they're thicker, and so it's like kind of an it's
like a Missy link. It's between. It's quite interesting. But

(02:53:04):
what I found the most interesting was the blockie teeth
that I did forensically and place the teeth where they belonged,
where they were missing. And are you gonna e? Did
you send it to you?

Speaker 10 (02:53:20):
I sent it to your Facebook? Oh I'm sorry, all right, okay,
I'm gonna I was looking. Can I show you what
you sent me? Doug?

Speaker 2 (02:53:35):
Sure, okay, there's the original job picture. And of course
I even started with AI trying to identify it and
it it it. It started to hallucinate saying it was
a pig job, and I'd send it a picture of
a pig. John was like, oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 9 (02:53:54):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:55):
When AI is like, oh, yeah, you're right, it's not
even close to a pig. John, then it would say
it's it's like it would be. It would say, no,
you're right, you're right, it's not a chimp jaw, and
blah blah blah. I was like, the hell with it.
I'm just gonna work on reconstructing the teeth and the
best one is the far right lower. I like that,

(02:54:17):
but let's but let's do a zoom in on the
best you can, I know, on the first picture, because
that you.

Speaker 10 (02:54:25):
See the two big holes for the original one be incisors.

Speaker 2 (02:54:30):
That's the way you got it. There's a broken molar
on both on each size, so it has less molars
than humans. And then it's got a broken molar. Okay,
so all there are is two holes that are empty
the front in size. Yeah, that's it weird, So I
so I reconstructed it and put them in. Now you
can cut to that lower right picture, Jeff. If you

(02:54:53):
look at the bottom, you see how why those incisor
teeth are.

Speaker 10 (02:54:57):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (02:54:58):
So I did that, and I did another attempt to
the left of it, but felt I'd made the teeth
too short, so I tried to balance everything the best
I could.

Speaker 10 (02:55:11):
Well, you could see the holes in the bottom. They're huge.
I mean they had to be.

Speaker 2 (02:55:14):
Yeah, no, no, that's that's accurate.

Speaker 4 (02:55:17):
I'm with.

Speaker 2 (02:55:17):
I believe it is. So now it's going to be interesting.
At least I've got myself totally up to speed. And
now when I start dealing with dentists, and I can
refute if I hear bullshit, pardon my French. If I
hear something that's like you didn't even study it, you know, really,
I hate that when I go to and I found

(02:55:38):
that with monster quest, I would call scientists to the
mat that I knew they were just being lazy. I'd
call them to the mat and they go, yeah, you're right,
Oh I better do it, you know whatever, or they
wouldn't do more fology, even on a single and so anyhow,
I'm trying to protect the integrity of this because I

(02:55:59):
would to just take this what could be a subsquatch
job that we maybe could even find right, it's possible. Yeah,
I mean there's there's there's ways to do it because
bone collectors are a tight knit, tight knit group, and
there may be another bone collector that's gonna know exactly

(02:56:20):
what I.

Speaker 10 (02:56:21):
Plan on doing another foy. Now that I have some
more information on this I have, you know, I knew
that it happened or whatever, so I think I can
go a little bit further. I know dates and stuff.
So yeah, hopefully we can track down.

Speaker 2 (02:56:33):
Okay, now somebody's asking Kenny, how why does it back?

Speaker 4 (02:56:36):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:56:36):
That's the only photo.

Speaker 10 (02:56:39):
Was one photo of it.

Speaker 2 (02:56:40):
But I've taken measurements as best I can, because he
has angled. But I can do there's a lot you
can do, not a ton, but anyhow, so this does
have a chance of being something unique. It's all I
can say.

Speaker 10 (02:56:54):
And again, it was owned by a biologist who yeah,
he knew what he was talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:57:00):
Yeah, collected it for a reason and it ended up
in a FOYA document for a reason. So that's the
first thing y'all need to listen to. Why was it
in a FOYA document? Why was it Why was it
hidden from us? And that's that's that's that's where I'm

(02:57:20):
like pumped. I'm like, okay, there's there's a reason they
hit it. Then we're going to just bring it to
the light. So it's actually smart. We're airing this.

Speaker 10 (02:57:28):
Right now, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:57:30):
So it's a smart thing.

Speaker 10 (02:57:34):
I don't want to get ahead of It's been nice
knowing you.

Speaker 2 (02:57:36):
It's been nice knowing your anyhow. And should I say
that I am not you know what, I'm not going
to say it. And you know that you know the
phrase I am not Yes, yes, I.

Speaker 9 (02:57:50):
Know, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (02:57:54):
We will have some definitive answers and with you, you know,
with any Look, this would be a great little I've
got some other dental things that will be a legitimate
science too. This would be a nice edition because it
also teaches people what can be done on these cases
and that, you know, I don't know what the final

(02:58:14):
final conclusion will be or if we can even get
a final, but you know, people say, well you have
no bones, Well you know there's a possible bone, and right,
why was it in a foia?

Speaker 10 (02:58:33):
Yeah, they really wanted the agencies really wanted.

Speaker 2 (02:58:37):
Yeah, Kenny said it. Well the book the books were
used a scale.

Speaker 10 (02:58:41):
I did do that, yes, yea.

Speaker 2 (02:58:46):
And thank god there's those books in the background that
really helped me a lot, and it's going to help
the next anthropologist that gets that gets to study this.

Speaker 10 (02:58:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:59:00):
I'm planning and getting into three different ones and then
some dental people'd be awesome, So we'll have some answers.
So just give me a little time. I don't like
to rush. I've been really thinking about it because it's
like a grenade that can go off in your hand
if you're not careful.

Speaker 10 (02:59:17):
Absolutely, I kind of learned that the hard way.

Speaker 2 (02:59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:59:20):
I posted a picture of my one of the folders
from my book and I got lit up. I just
got everybody, it's fake, it's you stow this. This was
already out before, and so I just forget.

Speaker 2 (02:59:31):
Yeah, by the way, those could all be government bots.
Do that every one of them.

Speaker 10 (02:59:34):
I didn't think about that. I did nothing about every.

Speaker 2 (02:59:36):
One of those government bots.

Speaker 9 (02:59:39):
They excel at discredited.

Speaker 2 (02:59:40):
I have been studying the bot farms. I have been
studying the bot farms. It's scary what's going on right now.
There are bot farms everywhere, and they have thousands of
cell phones and they just they can hammer any anybody,
any topic, and it's.

Speaker 10 (03:00:02):
Yeah, hey agents, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:00:05):
So we're living in different times. So I don't think
about don't take things too too much to heart, right Yeah.
So with that, So with that, Eric, you you definitely.
We we had a great I found it just like
beyond fascinating. And when you get off all actually, I'll
actually market the show a little.

Speaker 10 (03:00:26):
Bit sweet if you guys are interested. Again, everything in
my book here if you guys wants on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (03:00:33):
And there's a there's a link in it and give
us the title.

Speaker 10 (03:00:37):
The title is Bigfoot The Redacted Truth.

Speaker 2 (03:00:40):
There you got.

Speaker 10 (03:00:42):
Everything, yeah, pretty much everything. We talked about in here,
and that's so yeah.

Speaker 9 (03:00:47):
Here Saturday sweet awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:00:50):
Yeah yeah, well he got, he got. We're gonna just
run our wisdom.

Speaker 9 (03:00:54):
We'll be right back, all right, right back.

Speaker 5 (03:00:58):
It's now time for untold a wisdom of the week.
Don't wait to eulogize the living. Tell your people now
what they need to you, assume nothing, make the effort,
say it out loud, and remember to always give back
kindness to the everyday people you meet.

Speaker 9 (03:01:17):
Good night.

Speaker 5 (03:01:18):
We hope to see you all next week. If you
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back to Doug and Jeff for our wrap.

Speaker 9 (03:01:39):
Then we're back. I'm back too, and Doug's back.

Speaker 2 (03:01:44):
Yeah, we're all back. So thanks everybody. We really appreciate it,
appreciate that wonderful chat, and we will be back next
week and again the Minnesota Big Forer conference this weekend.
Anybody want to come up and uh and then make

(03:02:08):
sure you get your tickets for the New York Bigfoot Conference.
Our own Loretta Collins is hosting now with Mark d Worth.
So we will see y' all next week, and we'll
be in touch this week. Eric sweet all right, I.

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