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October 9, 2025 • 206 mins
### 🦶 Bigfoot: Myths, Sightings, and the Endless Hunt? | Untold Radio w/ Open Mic Guests!

Step into the wild with **Untold Radio Show** hosts **Doug Hajicek** and **Jeff Perrella** as they unravel the Bigfoot legend—from the iconic 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film to fresh DNA studies and eerie footprints. Is it ancient giant, hoax, or something unexplained?

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Looking back on life that you leave him then rested
a home in the crowd, stick around through the create
the feeding.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Who are the fire?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
You'll be dancing around.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh here is the sound of treating, and no one
cares where.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
He's coming from.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
My ears are still ring and feeding.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
I guess we are new from the start.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
The days not.

Speaker 7 (00:48):
It's open Mike Night, the guests Year.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know one of these days will be the world.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Looking for a answer?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
What it sass?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
My n l cost.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Leading the fuse of the Ashes the Spirits, that album.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Looking down the House for Life.

Speaker 8 (01:37):
From the Untold Radio Network, It's Untold Radio AI with
Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co host Jeff
Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am is going live right now.

Speaker 9 (02:04):
This show is for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
Yep, that's the ticket.

Speaker 9 (02:10):
Now Here are your Untold Radio AM posts. Doug hih
Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Hello, how are you, Jeff?

Speaker 10 (02:25):
I'm doing good? Busy day to day.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, that's that's good. I got saved. I fell I
fell asleep. It was at my desk, songed out. Andy
Vet comes back and woke me up, and I'm like, oh, crap,
what time is it?

Speaker 10 (02:45):
Get a little scare. Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I'll do that. I'll just fall asleep right in my chair. Anyhow,
I'm glad everybody is here.

Speaker 10 (02:56):
Yeah, welcome all of our friends. Chat. We love you guys,
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
We had kind of fun this weekend, didn't we We did.
We went up to the Minnesota Bigfoot Conference and uh,
we're going to talk a little bit more about that.
But first we are doing open mic night, special open
mic night. So if you have a story, an encounter,

(03:26):
a ghost, story, time, glad you could be anything.

Speaker 10 (03:31):
Yeah, Oh, email me for a link. I got I
got the link up on the screen there. It's Jeff
p j e. F FP at Untold RADIOAM dot com.
So send me an email. I'm happy to send you
a link. If you don't want to go on screen,
we can do audio only. You can send on you
log in, you can set that. If you want to
turn your camera off, that's totally fine. But we're welcome

(03:53):
to listen to anybody's story. So you can come on
in your underwear if you really want, just don't let
us see it, yes, just keep your.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Camera off anyhow, So like, yeah, anything, goes as long
as it's uh something interesting taste. We don't we don't
want to hear about your your trip to the grocery store.
Oh maybe Jeff does. Really I don't, but that it

(04:22):
would be cool if you want to come on, here's
your chance.

Speaker 10 (04:26):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (04:27):
So this.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Weekend we went up to Grand Rapids and we were
joined by lots and lots of people, including some of
our listeners were up there.

Speaker 10 (04:39):
Yeah a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And yeah, we really did. We had fun. You man,
the the booth.

Speaker 10 (04:46):
I didn't have to sold a lot of books the
Hanger one booth. Yeah, I sold a lot of books.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Good for you?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Was it you or Brendan that sold a.

Speaker 10 (04:55):
Lot of Brendan actually, and I think he's listening. He's
up in or up his cabinet or I'm heading up
there Friday. He actually is a really good, really good salesman.
He talked more than I did. I kinda I kind
of did the nuts and bolts and he did the selling.
But he did a great job. He's very knowledgeable about
the books. So, yeah, they're great books. I love the
Hanger one books. I have a bunch of them. I

(05:17):
bought four more myself. I was working the table.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's funny, that's hilarious. And then there was the New
York Big Wood Conference the same weekend, put on by
Loretich Hollins and Mark d Worth, and I guess that
was a big success, and they already booked for next year,
so there'll be this second annual New York Bigwood Conference.

(05:43):
And I know sure that the one we went to
was the success. It was, you know, it was busy.

Speaker 10 (05:49):
Yeah, we had a good we had a full room
most of the day. I was great.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, I had I had a really fun time. I
liked it because I didn't have to speak.

Speaker 10 (05:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was fun, you know, as much fun
as the actual event was. We had great speakers, great presenters.
I had so much fun just meeting people, meeting fans
of the show, meeting the researchers. It was just it's
a ton of fun. It's I highly recommend. And that
was my first ever Bigfoot convention, so first of many.
I really had a good time. It was a lot

(06:19):
of fun.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, I thought Abe did a really good job.

Speaker 10 (06:23):
Worked hard. Give me the whole team up there. They
worked hard. They buy a good show, and.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
We had people show up. See let me name a
few here, Mike, Eric, Joel Mitchell, John uh In April
Montoya of course uh. And of course my buddy Adam
Colet went up. And now Adam I kind of played
a joke on it.

Speaker 10 (06:47):
Adam so okay, So.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
A while back he was in charge of booking rooms
for us for a ATV cancer or a cancer fundraiser. Right,
So we went on this ride and literally in the
middle of the ride, we get a call like, we
got all your stuff and garbage bags and you gotta

(07:13):
you know, if if you don't pick it up by
like eight o'clock, we're gonna throw everything in the garbage
or whatever. So we're like, what, you know, we booked
for two nights and they're and they're booting us out
right in the middle of our ride. Anyhow, so we
got back all muddy, and I mean we were thick
covered with mud, our faces, our clothes, everything, and we

(07:35):
had no where to shower. Well, I thought, what could
I do to Adam to get them back for that?
And we kind of plodding. So my thing is I
called him up the other you know, before we went.
I said, well, I got the room Chorea. And what
I did is got Adam a kid's room and booked

(07:56):
it and blah blah blah. Okay, so we get up
there and and I, you know, I load my stuff
in my king bedroom and Adam opens his door and
there is it looks like something out of a kindergarten classroom,
with bunk beds, little tiny beds, and I don't know,
he had three bunk beds in there. And by the way,

(08:19):
Adam said they were the worst hardest beds he's ever
slept in for kids that way about a third of
what Yeah, So anyhow, so do you have that? So
he gets into one of that. One of the amenities
in the room was a rocking horse, and so I said,
you know, on the damn rocking horse, and I videotaped

(08:40):
on the there he is. I think it's I think
it's a video. There you go. So this is Adam
and then we and then and then of course I
was showing people downstairs at the bar.

Speaker 10 (08:58):
This video got a lot of airplay.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The bartender said something like I think I'm gonna pee
my pants.

Speaker 10 (09:06):
He was a great bartender too. Just the whole staff
up there was great. It's a good event.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I've never had a bartender say that, So then we
we Yeah, we had we had fun anyhow. So if
you want to, if you want to bring ad him on.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Welcome there.

Speaker 10 (09:23):
He is the good big boy, Adam the big boy.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I got you back, did you did you did?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (09:36):
I love the fact we were walking down the hall
and Jeff sorry Dug opened that room first and he
goes closes the quick he goes, whoop's wrong room. Then
we load all this stuff in the room and then
he's like, here's your room, like sense it and opens it.
Oh my god. I mean it had the dinosaur and

(09:56):
the fish on the shower curtain, and it was it
was everything. It was a full.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
He had the frog clinics to Spencer Toobes, I remember, yeah,
Amilia was the beads. I mean that was the that
was the joke.

Speaker 11 (10:15):
The beds were brutal.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I knew it would be.

Speaker 11 (10:21):
A you got me, you got me good.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, we still had fun. You were a good sport
about it.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
And then there was something about tequila and rocking horses.
And then Adam wrote a really quick song and played
this song for the bartender gold rocking horses and tequila,
and then she said I'm really gonna beat my band.

Speaker 11 (10:45):
So we secredized the the Ai song to the to
the Rocky Horse video, and she really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, there you go. All right, what else do we
get going on here? And I know, uh, there were
some new people I met. I met a guy named Moose.
We're gonna get on here. I'm gonna call him, maybe's
early tomorrow and getting him on. Man, he's got two

(11:16):
crazy stories, both from up there, up in you know,
the Grand Rapids area. So that was really cool. And
then we got to reconnect with Todd Niece, reconnected with
the Russell Accord, Maria uh Mayor, and then Carl Sup
of course wrote up with me. Oh my god, here's Carl.

(11:38):
He just popped in. I'm gonna let Carl on. Yeah, yeah,
get him on.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Coming. Why from a hotel room in Dallas?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Are you really you went from hotels to hotels, didn't
I know?

Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah? I did.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
So me and Carl and Adam it up together. And
what a trip that was.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I got I even got to see that that
palatial room that Adam had. That was awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 11 (12:12):
And you got to ride the squatchmobile.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I got to ride in the Squatchmobile. That was exciting. Yeah,
and we even gave a hitchhiker a ride and the Squatchmobile.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
That was he leaves this thing in my car in
my driveway that looks like the Ghostbusters ambulance. And it
looks like a movie prop. It really does.

Speaker 11 (12:34):
I did send Jeff a picture if you want to
put it.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Oh, yeah, we're gonna show people funny. Yeah, it looks exactly.
I mean there were like people driving by taking pictures
of it. Well, that's a crappy picture.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
That's when I got it.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's that's your picture, Adam.

Speaker 11 (12:59):
Well, it's what am I can dig up another one.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm sure it's terrible. You can't even see it anyhow.
It's covered with gear and satellite dishes and the cow. Yeah,
the Gael's over. You can't make out that picture. Terrible picture.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Shame on you.

Speaker 10 (13:17):
At him another day, I might.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I was gonna say you, I don't think a sasquatch
would be able to see it.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
In another another week in the in the kids room
again next year.

Speaker 10 (13:31):
All right, I'm going to call now to reserve that.
Make sure you get that next year.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah. And then I was deeply honored. They played three
of my tribute videos up on the big screen reived.
It was the Four Horsemen, the Jeff Meldrum Tribute, and
the new Roger Patterson and Bob Gimmel tribute I did
called nine five four Frames.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
So it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And then h on a more somber note obviously, I
think we even talked about it. Last week. We lost
Jane Goodall, who I did get to. I spent an
entire day with her once.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
That was amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, to me, it was like a lifetime.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
That was funny.

Speaker 10 (14:16):
That's that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
And so I did a I wrote a tribute called
Into Gumby after I got back from the conference. I
had started it but I didn't finish it. But I
finished it, and we'll play that in just a little
bit if you have a.

Speaker 10 (14:35):
Jeff ready whenever you want.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I know it was a massive file.

Speaker 10 (14:39):
So yeah, I had to go down to low Res again,
but we got it.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, that's a massive file. But yeah, I got to
pick because of doctor Lynn Rogers in the North American
Bear Center that I was a board member. He calls
me up one day and he goes, uh, could you
pick Jane Goodall at the airport. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(15:05):
I'm available, and so we picked her up. Olynn doctor
Lynn Rogers was with me and we picked her up,
and Joe Joe Frischello was with and we picked her
up and went to all sorts of events. So it
was really cool. Yeah, what a sweet lady. Maybe, yeah,
maybe that would be a good time. Let's go and
do that. Let's play into Gambie right now here we go.

Speaker 12 (15:47):
Jane Hill the dreams like fragicies. I was told the
waw near human hearts.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
She leaves.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
From London Rains.

Speaker 11 (16:09):
To Africa's Nomad.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
She traded her town for a jungle path long.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
Into Norman. She walked along where forest whisper.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
The chips have their roll.

Speaker 13 (16:41):
She lingered in silence, shadowed and slow, naming those semen,
learning what they on.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
She'll listen that Colm. Her voice is intre.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
S, sorrow and laughter. Who believe re breathed between human
and privy. She built a bridge of trust.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
She showed us how onnor all.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Creatures, how to care as we you f.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
In twig and Turman, in ritual, andand to in conflict
and kindness, in play and in rule, She saw war
in the family, compassion and stride, and taught.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Us the truth.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Of our kinship in life.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
He is the dude.

Speaker 14 (18:25):
See fun.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Do you see the spy.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Live side classrooms, We're passing a.

Speaker 15 (18:38):
Spy crsvoice on scene.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Her foot, griss word legacy.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
We've heard that her side.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Now, Shane good Old, the recip.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Beyond the veil burder Ecles.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
In France will forever preveal what we carry is the compass.

Speaker 15 (19:13):
She lived in our hearts, her questions, in our actions.
Her She listened to that gumb She taked forest hands
to him. The world feels quieter, hurt now where her

(19:36):
presence was written. May we hear in her silence? May
we answer her came.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
To guard, to love, to wonder, as she did above all.

Speaker 15 (19:58):
Her soppoin stilty, her foot principle.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Legacy, with the wonders of.

Speaker 10 (20:12):
Her at her. Yeah, that was great, good job, it

(20:36):
was fantastic.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Wow, thank you.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Anyhow, any words Carl you would like to say on
Jane's behalf.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I'm sure, oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, as
a kid, I mean I was always medsmorized, right, I
wasn't you know, sure I'd watched the occasional Saturday morning cartoons, right,
you know, but the you know, I was always watching
as we talked about in the car, you know, like

(21:07):
you know, Wild Kingdom and just about every uh, every
other special and I just remember how special that was.
And I'm super jealous that you you know, you know,
you got to spend a day with her. I mean,
that would be that that's amazing.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
But but you know, just her.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Her demeanor and her understanding of that. I I mean,
I actually apply those techniques a lot of those same
techniques when I'm out in the field researching as well,
you know, and and it's I certainly not sure I
would have the courage, you know to do that. Sometimes
if I didn't look back at that and say, if

(21:52):
Jane could do it, I could do it, you know,
very brave.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
So yeah, and there's really not not a lot of
people that don't use a little bit of her kindness
when they do research. Yeah, I think most people I
meet do you know, it's just yeah, it's it's a

(22:16):
mutual respect. Obviously they must sense sense that.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Oh absolutely, like I said it, you know, I know,
I concluded my speech at the Minnesota Bigfoot Conference, you know,
with you know, just you know, be a friend, you know,
and and I know they know that, you know, and
it's and like I said, it's something that Jane did
you know, she was became one of their them, you know,

(22:44):
and and that and that opened the doors to so
much understanding and knowledge that you know, it's what.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
We have to do.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, it's true, true, Adam, Do you have anything you
want to throw in there?

Speaker 11 (23:00):
No, I was just thinking back to the days of
Mutual Omahas and that that show inspired a whole generation.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
Yeah, great stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. I'm old enough to remember
the first time probably she was Jane Goodall was on
TV back in the I think it was probably in
the late sixties or mid sixties.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Yeah, mid late sixties, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
a little before my time, but yeah, she was something else.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah I didn't They did an Imax movie that I
went and saw on her. Gosh, that was that back
in the nineties, I believe did you did any of
you guys see that Imax.

Speaker 10 (23:41):
For that one? I remember the big National Geographic documentary
she did is just so memorable when she was embedded
with the I mean, that's just I think everyone's seen
that that documentary. It's amazing and it was life changing.
It nobody had done that before. It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, that was so if you if anybody wants to
come on say a few words about Jane, you're welcome
to do that. Don't don't be shy people, you know. Yeah,
you don't even have to have your camera on and
just ey to talk to Jeff. Did you put your

(24:19):
email address up?

Speaker 11 (24:24):
And while we're waiting, I have a question for you three.
Back in I think we're all pretty close to the
same age. But back when I was in school, it
was kind of this you know, vibe from the teachers
that like, oh, you can't be an archaeologist. We already
we already discovered everything. We know everything, you know, we

(24:45):
know everything about the stars, we know everything about the
about Adams.

Speaker 16 (24:49):
You know.

Speaker 11 (24:49):
It was really interesting. I got you know, there's a
lot of jobs I would have probably tried to do
if I had been encouraged to go that direction, you know,
but it was like, oh, yeah, we know every thing,
and here we are twenty twenty five and we're just
now learning so many new things. That's amazing.

Speaker 10 (25:08):
Yeah, I guess it's kind of nice that I'm the
young guy here. I'm the youngest by a fair amount,
so I'm kind of happy about that. I don't get
to say that very often, that the youngest were your.

Speaker 11 (25:20):
Teachers kind of liked that in your era or not?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it was there was the
teachers I really loved the most were the ones that,
you know, encouraged you to think outside the box and
really keep an open mind and think critically, you know.
And then there was those teachers that said, the book
has it, that's that's the bible on that subject, and

(25:45):
you are you know, and you know there's no no
need to go any further than that those boundaries, you know,
And I never ever thought that, so, but I think
that's what drives me still today.

Speaker 11 (25:58):
I grew up in Colorado, and I would have been
a gold prospector if I knew that was a real job.
And you know here they got teach shows about it.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
So yep, it's true.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, No, there were a lot of bad teachers at
one point that really discouraged thinking out of the box
or doing anything. That's one reason I you know, I
don't think I've told this publicly, but I walked out
of school at a very young age and never came
back because I just felt like they were just destroying

(26:32):
me mentally.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Oh yeah, I escaped.

Speaker 11 (26:37):
Reason, Yeah, yeah, I escaped.

Speaker 10 (26:41):
I ended up with a completely useless degree because I
was not really given great advice but to do.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of poor people that go to
college too. They go on beyond high school, they graduate,
and then they go on to college and waste even
more of their life and going to debt and do
a lot of things. So, yeah, we definitely need to
get back to roads. I think, yeah, and get out there.
I mean I think you can just if you just
want to look at the money. I think you can
make way more as a blomber.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
Yeah. Yeah, skilled trades are the way to go, I
think right now.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
For right now.

Speaker 10 (27:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Anyhow, Well, let's go on. Let's do our weird and
fast news or is it fast and weird?

Speaker 10 (27:22):
It's weird and fast.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
We go, It's time for weird and fast news.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
Weird and fast.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Okay, good, I'm glad it's weird and fast. Anyhow, first
thing on the weird and fast news is they have
decided that bears consume a certain type of probiotic in
the fall, you know, different microbes that help them put

(27:59):
on weight. So it says here researchers have discovered that
changes in gut bacteria play a key role in how
grizzly bears pack on massive fat reserves before hibernation.

Speaker 10 (28:13):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I found that really interesting by analyzing micro microbial shifts
and I've never really heard that term microbial shifts in
our guts, and that's really fascinating. And they found these
shifts with these microscopic partners help drive energy storage, allowing

(28:38):
bears to thrive through long, foodless winters. The findings could
even shed light on human obesity and metabolism. So there
you go.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Interesting. Yeah, they're smarter than us in some ways. What
the microbes the bears they know what to eat.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, but what would be neat if they came up
with There's some probiotics that you could take, you know,
during various parts of the year if you wanted to
lose weight, yeah, or you want to put on weight.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I know a few people that need to put on weight.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
I'm not one of them, and.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You know who you are. Okay, I got jealous, all right?
Then the Florida Aquarium moves hundreds of marine animals to
a new mega facility. Apparently, the Mote Marine Laboratory in
Florida has relocated over four hundred marine creatures, from mandes

(29:44):
to sharks, sea turtles to penguins into a new listen
to this one hundred and thirty million dollars Mote Sea facility.
The move involves specialized transport oxygen, oxygen NATed tanks, climate
control trucks, and is designed to improve both animal welfare

(30:06):
and public access to conservation education. So there you go,
And so I guess they're going to be able to
get room service, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (30:19):
First classroom service for all the penguins. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
And then the longest wooly rhinohorn has been discovered on
Jeff at the wrong button. I think he gets the
kid's room. Next year it Jeff gets the kids room.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
Now there we go.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay, So apparently researchers have uncovered a wooly rhino horn
stretching over one point six meters in Siberian permafrost, the
longest ever found. Based on growth bands, the whole is
kind of like tree rings. The team estimates that rhino

(31:04):
lived at least forty years old, even under the harsh
ice conditions. What a beast that would have been. Could
you imagine having nothing go after you?

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Man, That's that's impressive. Yeah, that's something else, all right.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And then universal anti venom So, apparently they're working on
a universal anti venom project aims to tackle venoms of
dozens of snake species, so they're trying to develop a
universal anti venom. So scientists are developing a universal anti

(31:46):
venom cocktail combining Uh, Jeff, do you want to take
a stab at that word, monoclonal mono yep, thanks, smart ass, antibodies,
and small molecular drugs. Apparently an early test it neutralized

(32:09):
venom from nineteen different cobras and crates and other species,
but skeptics warn that venom variation may make a single
cure unworkable in real world settings.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
Yeah, there's a ton of variation in venoms. So they
do some of them do radically different things when they work.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Oh yeah, I know in Arizona they actually they actually
milk rattlesnakes, you know, for in order to get their
venoms to make antivenom and have that on hand at
the hospitals.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So do that by hand to the state, don't they.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Yes, they do, they do.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, there's there's no milking machine they can hook up
to them and that's.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
Worth a lot of money. I remember we talked about
it that venom is extremely valuable and.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
They do the same thing with scorpions too them that way.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
So now this next one is about primates. So China
launches a primate brain mapping consortium. We wonder what is
primate brain mapping? It says a new international consortium is
underway to produce multi multiomic I don't know what that

(33:25):
means omic. Anybody want to take a guess on that
multiomic brain atlases across primates species that includes marmosets, macaques,
and humans. The goal is to map every cell type
in their brains and better understand evolution, cognition, and disease.

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So who knows, Adam, you can donate your brain?

Speaker 11 (33:54):
Well, everyone says, I got a big head here, so there's.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
No Well the way your cameras look up your nose,
you know, what do you expect? So it says that
that's then looking are I just I don't know. I
think programs like this just seem really weird to me,

(34:18):
But I guess, I guess I guess God knows what
they cost. And then many animals grow hot tempered in
heat waves that apparently triggers aggress aggression across different species.
So the picture obviously illustrates primates, alligators, deer, lizards, birds,

(34:40):
and whatnot. Apparently they have more animal attacks when the
temperature source. So the new study shows that when temperatures rise,
aggression increases in species from salamanders to monkeys. Warm days
and social dynamics are firmed in the animal kingdom and

(35:02):
maybe even human kind. Like though, I mean, who isn't
more crabby on it when they're hot and human?

Speaker 10 (35:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Right, raise your hand. I just just like, well, how
much money did they get for this study? Just called me?
I would have done it for I would have told
them for free.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
That's an actual photograph. It was a hell of a party.
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, that was a photograph. Yeah, to look at it.
You notice I dropped the bigfoot in the corner. Remember
last week I had a olym big foot. Oh yeah,
I didn't do that this time.

Speaker 10 (35:37):
Well, I should have should have gotten the actual photograph.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I'm I'm over it now, but I'm just like I
don't I don't know whatever these programs. It's interesting, but
I think we all kind of knew that, you know,
when it's hot, or why wouldn't a deer be more crabby?

Speaker 10 (35:57):
Somebody got paid lot of money to tell us that.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
I know.

Speaker 10 (36:00):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Adam's smart crabby when it's hot. Right, we all are
all right, that's enough news, enough of that crap, and
then we've got the weird, very weird, untold fact of
the week. And this is a weird one. You got
a race for this one. Are you're ready there?

Speaker 9 (36:21):
It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the
week that is kind of weird.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
All right, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
So octopuses octopi. Oh please octopus. That's plural octopus, right, Carl,
Octopus is plural.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
I think it's octopi.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh my god, you guys, Adam get on my side,
please octopus. I'm not saying octopius can edit itself in
real time. So apparently they can do their editing of
their own DNA. Now another reason why I think they're aliens. Okay,
let me read this. Unlike humans, obviously, octamusses see octopusses

(37:19):
not Yeah, Octopuses and squids can reprogram their RNA on
the fly, essentially editing how their genes are expressed without
changing their underlying DNA, so they can tweak their own DNA.
That is so cool. Apparently this lets them adapt their

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nervous systems quickly to changing environments like shifting water temps.
Scientists call it biological software updates.

Speaker 10 (37:53):
So you wonder where they started out. I mean, there's
no fossil record, so who knows what the heck they were.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Maybe that's all they got.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
So weird they probably is. That's a pretty good uh,
that's a pretty good uh.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
We didn't put the he didn't put the picture up.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
I thought I had it up. It's up on my screen.
I worked on that picture, the actual photograph. I'm sorry,
you know what I thought. I had it on the screen.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
The whole shows down the toilet in my jar.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
I screwed up.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
See boat worm said, it's it's that we're done.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
Fire me.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
He took the cane. Okay. Apparently they are doing this
inside themselves, and it's just that's amazing.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
It really is amazing, amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think that that fact is so weird that should applause.
It's amazing weird.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
That's incredible. It really is. Explains a lot to explain
why they're so weird. Yeah, I mean, how the heck
did they get to be what they are? It's just bizarre.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I think they're like from another world. Carl, could you
turn your phone the other way?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
We don't need one of those.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
We don't even see how skinny you are. I don't
need to see your abs, all right, and there, and
then I wanted to talk about slang words. Right, there's
a lot of slang words that are happening that I
have no idea, and I even hear them from my
own kids. Slang words. I'm like, what what does that mean?

(39:30):
And so I thought I would do something that the
latest and greatest slang words. Did you know that's all right?
Turn your mute your mics, guys, who's going sh.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
M?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Sure it was you, Carl? I know what was you? Anyhow? Okay?
Did you know the word if you say six seven,
that is a snooze slang word? That one that's six seven.
So it says that apparently that drew that term drew
the highest number of searches lately, but it has no

(40:07):
literal meaning. Instead, it's meant to be an absurd bit
of kind of a brain rot influenced humor. Its origins
come from a cyrilla song one you might want to
play on a lower volume and mixed company, okay, as
well as a basketball player. I don't follow basketball. Lamilo ball.

(40:33):
You know, Lamilo ball. I have no idea. Apparently some
guy appeared in a viral video about being six foot
seven inches tall, So, Adam, you're six to seven man?

Speaker 11 (40:48):
No, I'm I'm sure Carl's almost there, Carl.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Okay. Another word is Ohio.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
You do?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, go ahead, we're waiting.

Speaker 11 (41:02):
It comes from a commercial only in Ohio, and so
they were just using it in the brain rot thing
to mean something obscure and yet absurd. Yeah, absurd.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, so they're making fun of Ohioan's.

Speaker 11 (41:18):
Yep, well in Ohio. Yeah, but they just got Ohio now,
so they shortened it.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
It was a no angry email advertisement called Ohio. Oh man,
I'm coming down with the conference grunge. You know what
that is? The conference crud? Yeah, it's when you you
talked to too many people and somebody had a cold.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
At least at least you weren't howling out in the
woods like I was.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Hell, No, I'm glad, No, I don't do that. Okay.
Another one is bop. It's just a slang word called bob,
and that's someone who has a lot of romantic partners.
Is a bob?

Speaker 7 (42:05):
Interesting?

Speaker 10 (42:06):
So there's a lot of other words for that too, Well.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, I know there are. The latest one is bob,
so yeah, Adam, you're a real bob. She was a bob?

Speaker 10 (42:19):
Yeah? And training okay.

Speaker 11 (42:23):
Another one is moging uh moving no m ogg Okay, okay,
I know mewing mogan mogan.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
It says is a it's a good thing because it
means you're outdoing others by being more attractive, more skilled,
or more successful. You're moging right right, I am definitely moging. No,

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tell your friends, Tell your friends. And then the other one.
Next one is a huzz a huzz and that is
an attractive girl or a group of girls, or someone
you want to impress. If you meet a huzz do
you want to impress a woman? I guess is a huz.

Speaker 16 (43:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
And then another one is glaze. And you just don't
glaze because that's keeping someone with excessive insincere praise. So
you lie to them saying, oh, you look really great today,
and yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
You.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
Want to be a bossy don't glaze hu exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
By the end of this, Carl, you have to take
all these words to put them in one sentence.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, all in a paragraph chain together.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
No, no, one sentence sentence yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
It says you're not lazy if you're zesty. So zesty
people are not lazy. It means a zesty person is lively,
exciting and energetic. I think that's kind of I mean
I could have figured that out. Zesty. I mean he
did it with zest. I mean that's I don't know,
I don't know how they think that's a new word.

(44:17):
And then the other one is you might want to
collect a phantom tax.

Speaker 11 (44:22):
Yeah, I know what phantom taxes you do?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Would you like to explain that, mister Dwell.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (44:28):
It came from a video where some guy kept taking
other people's food. So like you just walked past somebody,
you grabbed their you grab their meal or their treat
or snack and say phantom tax.

Speaker 10 (44:40):
So we had a guy that did that back in
my dad's start. I was a little kid. He this
is late at night, he'd come you know, this is
after the barskills. He'd come in, he'd walk by a
table and just grab a piece of pizza off of
people's tail. He was known for that. People put up
with it because they knew him.

Speaker 11 (44:55):
And yeah, yeah, and it's not phantom, it's phantom.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
F a n U M text that was named after
a streamer and a creator of popular who was popular
on Twitch and Instagram.

Speaker 10 (45:15):
Instagram.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah exactly. And then there's another one called green f N.
It's like a guaranteed win is a green f N?

Speaker 7 (45:25):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
And then there's a word called the slang word called
the clanker. Well, we used to say clunker, but now
it's clanker. That says uh. You can say it like
in a scent. You can say that story was written
by a clanker. A bot as a clanker. A comment

(45:50):
like in an article, if it's just looks like about
wrote it, you'd say it's a clanker clanker comment. All right,
go ahead, girl, now use all those in one sentence.
We're ready.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I wasn't taking notes, but oh my gosh, I didn't know.
I think there was only one I had heard of before.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
But wow, I'm impressed.

Speaker 11 (46:13):
Doug, you got a lot of it. I did a
little brain rod study this summer, and really I thought
you were going to pull up a lot of the
standard ones, but you got you got some new ones
in there.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
These, uh, Black Sheep said, clankster. Clangster. Adam is quite
a clangster. All right, now, I want to do this thing.
I don't there's no bumper, Jeff, don't look for one good.
I want people to guess what these random objects are
because I literally don't even know what they are. So

(46:46):
we're gonna we're gonna throw them up, you know. There
we go. First one, What in the hell is this? No,
it's not a it's not a plug at him.

Speaker 11 (47:02):
Yeah, I was thinking of shim. But no, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I think you were thinking the word.

Speaker 11 (47:06):
But no, it's a family show, Doug. It's a family
I didn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Oh, I didn't say anything, did I, Carl, No, you
did not one thing. So can you guess what these are?

Speaker 8 (47:23):
So?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Mary Jo says, fertilizer. Ah, like my mom. Black Sheeps's
farm equipment. Butt worm welcome back, but worm spun could
play man. I don't know what that boat warms, but
worm get on the get with the program.

Speaker 10 (47:41):
Here, put the whiskey.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Down, black sheeps. That's a nail filter for a nail
filer for bigfoot.

Speaker 10 (47:53):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
That's a good one. Yeah, what are they? Uh?

Speaker 7 (47:59):
Do you know?

Speaker 10 (48:00):
Does anybody know?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I don't have any idea. It's it's written in there somewhere,
can you Yeah, it is a some gonna do hickey.
It's a do hickey.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
It looks like it might disintegrate, so maybe it's uh,
oh god, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
It's a do hickey.

Speaker 10 (48:29):
Okay, well it's a second person I said, it's it's fertilizer,
like that actually makes sense. Somebody putting.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Maybe incense?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah no, no, girl, you don't light those on fire
in your house. No, all right, next, let's go back.
And that wasn't even a real one. Let's figure out
what these are. So apparently somebody found these in their
crafting supplies and they have no idea what they are.

(49:03):
And there's a name for him. After a little research here,
we found out what they were.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
Anybody know, anybody know, anyone, anyone, anyone, anyone.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I don't think boatworm is actually watching the program. I
think I think he's just here socializing are you just
here to socialize?

Speaker 11 (49:34):
He's just trolling us.

Speaker 10 (49:37):
Joel says spool for and he says receptacle shims. There
we go, guesses coming wrong?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
We want to hear your guests. They can't see myself.
Oh my god, get a magnifying glass, boat worm spacers
for test tubes?

Speaker 10 (49:55):
Other? Good guess there. I'll give you a hint. They're
a lot smaller than that.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
All right. And they're called uh elsie sticks?

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
And what are they for? Oh? They're they're there so
you can stick popsicle sticks and.

Speaker 10 (50:13):
Make there for ice cream? Yeah, ice cream bars.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's what they were to hold.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
Now now now now I see it.

Speaker 10 (50:22):
Yeah, out of context. Yeah, it's kind of hard to guess.
But it's a bored and elsie.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
It's not a context in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah, yes, as the most kits. Adam is going to
give him four million dollars a millionairey. He's going to
write a check for four million. Whoever guesses? Just kidding people,
all right?

Speaker 7 (50:46):
Next?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Next, this is a tiny, tiny, metal little fist. Apparently
what is it? What is it that looks like a
little cigarette in his hand? Isn't it does?

Speaker 10 (51:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:02):
What the world is this thing? Apparently it has diverse
meaning worldwide, this little thing, and you know, everybody guess
but worms just laughing.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
It's a roach holder. It's a pretty good guess.

Speaker 11 (51:30):
That's the joke was to be fair.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
What isn't a roach holder? At some point?

Speaker 11 (51:35):
Oh my god, Family show, Family Show, Jeff, shame on
you what.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
How else could he catch those insects at home?

Speaker 10 (51:49):
Come on, it's it's for your insect control.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
It's okay. It says this is called the the fig squatch.

Speaker 10 (51:59):
Mama had it, it has she does, Yep, she said
it's a fig. She is correct.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, okay, read what it is, so, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
It has diverse meanings worldwide, ranging from good fortune and
protection in Portugal, Brazil, in some parts of Spain, to rude, vulgar,
insulting gestures in Italy, Russia, Slavic countries and parts of Asia,
similar to the Middle finger. I've actually seen that in
Italian stuff. Yeah, it's it's kind of it's meant to

(52:30):
be a rude gesture.

Speaker 7 (52:32):
I could see that.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
The Italians are you know.

Speaker 10 (52:35):
There's a lot of animation, but I love it.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
So boatworm goes. If you know you know, yeah, oh
my god. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (52:45):
I got to go to Italy when I was a kid,
and of course they taught us were all the dirty words.

Speaker 10 (52:51):
So yeah, it's essentially like the finger, and it's actually
the thumb sticking out is what that's supposed to be,
is the thumb sticking up between the.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
All right, it's enough of the I'm pluting the Italian
sign language.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Yeah, and what is the what are these?

Speaker 10 (53:13):
I have no clue.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
It's like a broken fishing rail to me. Oh, anybody
went to guess it's really not that interesting. This is
a boat gate latch kit for boat gates. Next, stupid

(53:44):
X is a tiny metal thing found in the field
of per perth Shire, Scotland. Jeff, you know that isn't ye?

Speaker 10 (53:56):
I don't. Well, I do because I read your notes.
But oh I wouldn't have known what that one.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Well that's kind of cheating.

Speaker 10 (54:03):
Well, I do have to go through the notes at
some point to get everything ready.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (54:10):
I try not to look, but sometimes I kind of
catch things.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
The squorch mom on the last ones, it looks like
a window ledge, good job, very the toilet parts on
the last thing, Yeah, it does look like a toilet
flush handle.

Speaker 10 (54:26):
That was a good guess, but a wax press that
would have been my guess, except that it's not printed
in reverse.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Right, so apparently this is a what.

Speaker 10 (54:41):
Someone knows?

Speaker 7 (54:42):
What is it?

Speaker 10 (54:43):
Jeff Green bag tag, Russian bail seal. Yeah, that's uh,
it's a tag for green, oh for green.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Okay, I was about to say bail seal, yeah yeah,
or bag seal yep.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
All right, And the next one I get, like, I
know exactly what it is, Go ahead and throw the
next one up. Some people may know what a crappy picture.
And they were talking about that thing on the wall
with the ball in it.

Speaker 10 (55:12):
And to give you some context, that's that's a door.
It's inside of a doorjam behind like behind a door.

Speaker 11 (55:18):
Right, I'm sort of bumper stop the door from opening.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's correct, am, No, it's a is that a whole
alarm switch.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
For an early early, early early alarm alarm censor gets
like a momentary switch.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Buttworm said nightlight.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
It looks like that, but yeah, it's a like a
moment I'm guessing it's like a momentary switch.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
I thought it was a door stopper.

Speaker 11 (55:56):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Next the stack of wooden pieces with WingNuts found in
a thrift store. Oh, I know exactly what that is,
because I've got one of those in my office. I
had my daughter left here and I keep telling her

(56:19):
take her you know what home, and she hasn't taken
it home.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Yet, still in my office like a pan flute.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
No, no, it's a I want to see what people
can figure out in this one.

Speaker 10 (56:31):
Which there we go.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
She got it easel, yeah, oh black sheep got it first.

Speaker 10 (56:39):
Not complete, but it's it's an easel artist easel.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Oh, I think you can picture that once it's all together.
And the next we have some kind of hooks.

Speaker 11 (56:58):
Oh, those are for a closet hole.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Uh, it's actually is that you can't eat saying quilt.

Speaker 11 (57:09):
Wreck or maybe a curtain rode or something.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Says there well mounted wooden hooks found in a box
of sewing items. That was boring that thing. God, who's
the idiot that picked these out? What's the next thing?
It's a an enameled container with a hole for moaning

(57:34):
on the wall. What in the world would this be?
And it's got like a drain thing in it. It's
a little better, more fun. Patrick Noble said, gun right.
It's a good guess. Patrick on the last.

Speaker 10 (57:47):
One, Okay, a feeling squatch. Mama knows what it is.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I have no idea what this thing is. Pup, Yeah,
that's what it is. A peak up, Adam, it's a peacup.

Speaker 10 (58:03):
No, that's not what it is.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Prototype Still, I.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Was thinking it was like you put some charcoal and
gravel or sand or something in there to filter water.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Maybe cabin urnal.

Speaker 10 (58:22):
No, there better be a plug.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
That's what I would use it for.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
A few people have got it. Sclotch. MoMA definitely knows.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
What it is.

Speaker 10 (58:32):
She just wants to say, oh gee, I just read it.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
It's a enema.

Speaker 10 (58:41):
Reservoir, an old fashioned animal reservoir.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
I think you take you put a tube.

Speaker 10 (58:45):
On there, right, and the one end goes there, one
end goes somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Let's put it this way. Buttworm would know the region,
he said, don't ask Teresa.

Speaker 10 (58:58):
It's definitely not for meople syrup.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
It's not. Although you could use it for Mabel syrup.

Speaker 10 (59:05):
I wouldn't something else, But.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Then you can throw up the little squiggly pieces. I
guess these were found in a plastic container in a
parking lot. I'm sorry, it's kind of hard to see.
It's a crappy little picture. To pardon these pictures, I

(59:36):
don't know where did I get them? Well, where do
you think I got them?

Speaker 16 (59:42):
Well?

Speaker 11 (59:42):
The Internet, of course.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Well yeah that's I just look and look up, look
at pictures, just look at pictures all day to you.
I don't know what that is and you.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
Put it up?

Speaker 10 (59:52):
Okay, oh my god, no, moving on.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, I see those were were they were little magnets.
Now it's called shake your feet abby. Yeah, what's this
goofy thing? I look dangerous?

Speaker 11 (01:00:16):
Yeah, it's a family show, Dog family show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
What the world? I guarantee this, this show section will
never be back. This is a gigantic apparently it's really big.
It's a gigantic transparent rod and hook.

Speaker 10 (01:00:40):
But what is it for? No clue, no clue.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I don't think it's for crocheting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I'm looking. I can't remember what the hell is it.
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:01:01):
You sound like that sketch sketch from sketch from Steve Martin?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
What is that?

Speaker 10 (01:01:07):
Yeah, we don't know what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I forgot.

Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
All right, well we can move on.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Apparently it is the world's biggest crochet hook. That was right,
I had it. All right, Carl, you're brilliant.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
I said, yeah, yeah, they're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Just right there. That's one. Teresa said, that's one heck
of a crochet hook.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
See double lot, so it'd be like a like a
fourteen or something.

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Well, see when bat worm gets nervous and he can't
come up with any good answers, he just puts happy faces.
That's that's how you know. Butt worms in a corner.
He's backed into a corner. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
we're learning. All right. Uh, this is a small nail

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like item with a plastic cover where the sharp tip
would normally be.

Speaker 13 (01:02:06):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
M Kenny says, harpoon, cribbage peg.

Speaker 11 (01:02:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
A Roger, it's an invisible heart. Oh that's he was. Yeah,
he's back on the crocheve. I think. But butt Worm
and Roger need to get together and team up as
a team to identify these things. Butt Worm says, it's
a cute tip.

Speaker 10 (01:02:34):
Mmm, careful that one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Williams says, did Williams said, no.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I like.

Speaker 10 (01:02:44):
I like Nancy's answer. It's a safety now safety now
comple But it's safe.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
Okay, it says this is a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Oh, it's just a tooth from a hair rush.

Speaker 10 (01:03:01):
Doesn't look like it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
You know those kinds of that. You know what I'm
talking about. That little rivet is where it was molded
into the role.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Okay, all right, And.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
That little rounded thing is what goes against your scalp.
It's one tooth from hairbrush.

Speaker 11 (01:03:20):
Next bristle, it's a it's a bristle.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, what's next? Here? It is a donald metal beam
with lights on it in a soccer field.

Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
Just skip that, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I don't always know what I'm thinking at him. Sometimes,
my sometimes I just hallucinate lack of sleep. This is
a rubbery disc with a whole throat.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I get, David, A oooh when I look at it?

Speaker 11 (01:04:02):
A nickel holder.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's a nickel holder.
Do you see what it is?

Speaker 10 (01:04:16):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I asked if you could read what it is?

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
Can I read what it is? It doesn't say just
a theory. Somebody said, it's a stand for.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
You mean I only put a theory in there?

Speaker 10 (01:04:28):
Yeah, God, stand for a webcam, an old webcam. That's
they said, Okay, that's what the notes say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Okay, okay, see what we You gotta remember what we're
doing here is we're like archaeologists. Oh interesting, think about that.
In the future, five hundred years from now, they're going
to be going, oh my, what it was there for.
You know, they're gonna find the craziest crap because we've
become so so industrialized. I mean, they probably won't even

(01:05:02):
be able to figure out what a bottle cap is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
They're going to find the bottle according to butt worm
and and they'll think that's the gospel there.

Speaker 10 (01:05:15):
Yeah, people saying that's a playground, that's not a playground.
That's uh, it's I have no idea what for. But
if you look closer at it, Yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 11 (01:05:27):
Not a jungle gym, a homemade a dome home.

Speaker 10 (01:05:35):
Yeah, the grass on top is kind of weird, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Do we care? We don't care. I don't like looking
at big things.

Speaker 10 (01:05:47):
Like hear that one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I'd rather look at them little.

Speaker 11 (01:05:56):
Ear ring earring I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
As health vim and pep on it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Yeah, health it's a it's a vemmer.

Speaker 11 (01:06:11):
It's sort of medicinal charm.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
And Kenny and the last one at the top of
a silo. I could probably believe.

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
That it's some antique sylo Yeah, that actually makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
And apparently these are representing scales. I guess I would
buy into that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
Well, actually there's if you read here, it says and
I believe this nice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I'm not gonna say it. You can read it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:41):
I said it's part of an exercise advice. The clause
would have attached to elastic straps to provide resistance. I
believe it's the monogram of the Health Developing Apparatus company.
They made exercise devices that could be part of that,
part of an old exercise machine. That actually makes sense. Yeah, okay,

(01:07:01):
why not?

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I could see that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Carl, Carl, you haven't figured out one of these items yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
I have not, except for the crochet oka. I kind
of was guessing, well, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
See, that's when people get the hook. They just get
hooked right out of the room. Okay, this is your
that's your last chance, Carl. You gotta get joking. What
is this. I don't like the big things. Get rid
of this big thing.

Speaker 10 (01:07:27):
Okay, I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
It's too big. We'll do this one. We'll do this one.

Speaker 11 (01:07:32):
Sure, what is it, Adam, I'm just I'm laughing because
we're an hour into the show and I don't think
we've done anything productive yet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
We haven't done anything productive.

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
I don't know what this is. It's an old photography thing.

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
I don't know. Apparently it is a silk fireplace screen.
She heels viewers from the heat and flying sparks of
a fire while also serving as an ornamental decorative element.
Interest amazing. Not many. I'm guessing that many of those survived.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
No, I'm thinking one good ember and that would be gone.

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
But yeah, it doesn't make sense to me. But what
do I know? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Squatch Mama says, I have a Victorian house and that's
in front of my phone.

Speaker 10 (01:08:29):
Boy, she is on it. She using all this stuff.
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Oh my goodness, and we're not wasting her time at him. Okay,
I'm glad you think.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
So.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
Somebody gaining knowledge from squatch Mama.

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
We're educating the masses.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Yeah, and what do we got next? There's something really
sharp that looks like a dart to me, like you'd
play darts. You'd put a feathers on it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
But it's a puncture er. It's an auto a center punch, a.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
Pocketole pocket all yeah, like for putting in a new
hole in your belt.

Speaker 10 (01:09:18):
Well, it looks like a scriber to mean, like prescribing
a line on metal.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
But wendle bigfoot high dug high windle. Uh, it's a
spring loaded oh, spring loaded center punch jags.

Speaker 10 (01:09:35):
A really old one, fancy one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, and what is it?

Speaker 10 (01:09:41):
That's what I didn't say in your notes, but that's
probably probably right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Oh my god, uh doctor pimple popper duel geez, oh god,
we're gonna we're not None of us are archaeologists. Okay,
we're not doing good. We are not doing good. Okay, next,
what is it?

Speaker 10 (01:10:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I have no idea pipe plate?

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
What is it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
Interesting notes here, I never would have guessed that that's Victorian?

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
What is it? So?

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
I think we've started a new game show here. It
will be canceled after.

Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
The pilot.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
One and done. Yeah, and granp grand closing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
So we didn't figure out rogers that looked like ascribe
that last thing? Yeah, uh, okay, this is a steamer set.
According to black Sheep, that makes total sense, except where's
the where's the heat come from.

Speaker 11 (01:10:51):
Yeah, you have to put it in a pan of
water or something.

Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
Once again to watch Mama with the right answer.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
What is it? What is it?

Speaker 10 (01:11:00):
Put my head it up here? Where did it go?

Speaker 11 (01:11:02):
I called it? She knew what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Flat Rockland says, what the hell have I wandered into
the show? Okay, flat okay, the show has gone to
complete crap as of today. It's not my yeah, it's
not girl's fault.

Speaker 11 (01:11:20):
It just has.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I had this vision of all these people wanting to
tell their stories, and that fell flat on its face.
And now we're looking at crock pots. So we're gonna
have Williams or Rusty's gonna tell the story, right Rusty? Yeah,
you can bring Rusty on, Just bring him one. He

(01:11:45):
just gotta just give a voice. Is he on their russy?

Speaker 7 (01:11:50):
You're on?

Speaker 16 (01:11:51):
Am I on? Okay, you're on?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
What the hell is this? Rusty?

Speaker 11 (01:11:55):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (01:11:55):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
So what's this thing? Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:11:59):
You know, I thought it was a like to hold
a piece of bread, but after Squatch Model talking about
the mother life, that makes more sense.

Speaker 10 (01:12:08):
It's for butter. Yeah, it uh not, you know, raw
unprocessed butter. The liquid would separate through those holes. Was
kind of the idea. Okay, we squatch Mama for the
wind again.

Speaker 16 (01:12:22):
Dang oh, I've struck out all of these things.

Speaker 10 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I've been kind of well, see, we're not good
at archaeology.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
It's modern archaeology. Someday this is going to be a
real thing that archaeologists are going to have to do.
You know, after the big blast or whatever, after three
eye Alice hits us, there will be some survivors will
be going, what the hell are these people making? Okay, next,
Oh there it is. Looks like a big pasta noodle.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Yeah, like a routini sitting in the That's.

Speaker 16 (01:12:58):
What I was gonna say, a giant routini.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, you can bring uh flat, you can come on.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
Yes, I me an email. I'll get you on yeah
flat with the program. Roger, you can come on the party.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Roger talking to you, Roger, mhmm.

Speaker 10 (01:13:21):
I'll put my email up there again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Kenny, you can come on, come on. We can get
whole bunch of people on here. We have other things
we can talk about other than giant routinis.

Speaker 10 (01:13:35):
Oh, putting my knee and put my email up there again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Oh, apparently it's an archimedes.

Speaker 10 (01:13:40):
Screw yeah, raising water up. That's a pretty clever invention. Actually, yes,
it is screw for.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Yeah, some kind of.

Speaker 16 (01:13:51):
Wood screws they use for the pumps in New Orleans.

Speaker 10 (01:13:55):
Yeah, you can use it for real. Yeah, screws like
that in.

Speaker 16 (01:14:01):
New Orleans to pump the water out of the city
into the lake when it rains hippy.

Speaker 10 (01:14:07):
Yep, Yeah, pretty pretty clever invention.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Yeah, are you coming on, Roger, because I hear you.
Ah that is did flat Did he send you a letter?

Speaker 10 (01:14:23):
No, no one did yet, No puddy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Nobody wants to come on.

Speaker 10 (01:14:29):
And I tud a couple of people that emailed me
last time we did this. I wanted to come on
in there, people that have asked for this and what's true?

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Yeah, I could do that, Kenny. Okay, what's this thing
a spoon? Is that what we're trying to figure out?

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Nobody cares?

Speaker 11 (01:14:56):
Golf club start, I don't know many golf.

Speaker 16 (01:15:00):
Measuring spoon, No idea, some kind of solid server I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Next, next, I give up. Then we got this wooden
contract contraption. Excuse me, Just because I found these pictures
doesn't mean I knew what they were.

Speaker 10 (01:15:21):
Well, you should know everything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
These are cutouts. They're obviously made to hold something.

Speaker 16 (01:15:28):
I don't know what, an architects desk.

Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
Oh, I bet you that's a protract, a French curve
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Yeah, French curve. You know what those are.

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
Yeah, it's a pretty good guess. Yeah, that's probably what.
It makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
It's a Fibonacci curve tracer thing, Fibonacci, right, Doug.

Speaker 11 (01:15:50):
I'm just impressed that you found so many of these things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
You wonder what I do in the middle of the night.

Speaker 10 (01:15:59):
This is wait, it doesn't sleepy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Okay, it says there are food process or blade holders.

Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Oh yeah, someone will someone will know that. Twenty thousand
years from now. They'll think, oh, it's their language. That
was there. It was there, that was all they communicated.

Speaker 10 (01:16:26):
So what the hell is that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
I'd say, a pisa or something like that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:31):
Maybe like an.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Oven or something.

Speaker 10 (01:16:33):
What's got double doors, which is kind of odd.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That's some lab of them. The drying oven.

Speaker 10 (01:16:40):
The drying oven, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
It's for a like drying a kneeling or dry heat
sterilizing like a ah sure con con conclave or what
do they call those?

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
Yeah, something like that, not conclave.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
We can't.

Speaker 10 (01:16:57):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
You know, they heat things up? What do they call Carl?
You're wrong again, it's not a what's the next thing?

Speaker 10 (01:17:10):
Come on, somebody should know the answer to that. What
that word is? Next one?

Speaker 11 (01:17:13):
There we go something small again.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I like small things.

Speaker 10 (01:17:18):
Stop saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Auto. Yes, I hate that. When I can think and
I can't.

Speaker 10 (01:17:29):
Thank he Andxy to the rescue on that one. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Damn Minxy's got a lot of knowledge. All right, What
the heck is that?

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
What is this?

Speaker 16 (01:17:42):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Butt worm says, Oh, he's talking you guys got to
go to speed. The cigar human human word. No, it's
not a cigar. Okay, he's saying that. Okay. Tennessee says,
this is a nail poler close, but no sewing foot

(01:18:04):
for a machine.

Speaker 10 (01:18:06):
That's a good guess, but no I hammer to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Test your reflexes. Multi purpose can opener.

Speaker 10 (01:18:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 11 (01:18:16):
A painful Q tip.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
It's called a it's called a mock helegan. A helegan
is a firefighting tool used to forcibly enter an over haul.
And I don't even understand what I've written here.

Speaker 10 (01:18:33):
Yeah, tons a miniature version of a like a fire
fighting tool for for breaking breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Through a door, but a lot of people use from
his bottle over.

Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
It's a media version, kind of a novelty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Oh, there you go, the heavy metal item next that
has two left? Thank god?

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
Is your bit? Man?

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
Yeah, you got some weird ones, Doug, that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:19:03):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
What's this, Adam? You're on your own? What's this? You're
completely on your own? For one million dollars? Can you
name what this is?

Speaker 11 (01:19:14):
I really couldn't for one million dollars each, b ammor bit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yeah, it is a it's used in a metal electro
plating bath and those two ears are to hang it
on the edge of the bath and it goes in
acids and electricity are then used to do electro plating.
Apparently it's like electrode basically for electoral plate. It's an anode. Yes,

(01:19:51):
that's exactly like Sheep said's a honey badger.

Speaker 10 (01:19:55):
I like that's a good guess, all right, one, okay,
a banana hook.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:20:09):
The banana has nothing to do with it. That's kind
of uh yeah, the banana, I mean, of all the
things to use for scale. If you're a banana in
the picture. That's an odd thing to use for scale.
We should start doing that for the for big foot
not in my house from now on, for big footprints,
put a banana next to it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Alright, alright, so we normally use bananas at my house
for scale.

Speaker 10 (01:20:35):
Yeah, it's for all your pictures, for all your big
foot ad but it's all your footprint evidence.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Yeah, just start using bananas, okay, all right?

Speaker 10 (01:20:42):
Yeah? I think wasn't wasn't it. I think it was
Grover Krantz that you pioneered the banana as a scale
for pretty sure, what is the thing?

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
Let us tell us coat hanger for little people.

Speaker 10 (01:21:00):
Somebody should know what this is. Somebody, somebody should know
what this is.

Speaker 11 (01:21:02):
Yeah, squatch mama does uh?

Speaker 10 (01:21:07):
Did she in there? No, nobody's quite right. It is
actually a folding hoof pick for getting stones out of
horses hoofs. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Okay, See the banana was to distract you, great?

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Anyways, anyways, all right, we're gonna we're gonna do our
clips and then we're gonna have Uh. Rusty's got a
great story, right, Rusty, It's great.

Speaker 16 (01:21:44):
Right, right, story, absolutely a great story.

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
Clips.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Adam you've got a story or two, NYA, I'm sure, Carl,
Oh my god, we don't want to get him started doing. Yeah,
it was funny too, because well you were speaking at
the conference, because you know, I know all your stuff. Right,
it was I was just outside. It was so beautiful outside,
so I'm outside, and then Jeff was relaying me with

(01:22:11):
Dix's number. He's on number eleven. He's I wanted to
come in before I write at about thirteen, and I
showed up right at thirteen. Now I bopped it all
the time. You had, You had it the best. That
was awesome. I think I probably No, no, Carl, it

(01:22:33):
wasn't the best, but it was really good. That was
really good.

Speaker 10 (01:22:39):
Clips. Yeah, let's do that right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Clip one. And if you notice I have a few
primate clips in here today and the yeah this is
I said. I thought that clip illustrated. Hope you know

(01:23:19):
this it's training just like kids. Yeah, I'm positive Bickfoots
have a very good sense of humor like that they do,
because we have done things where we've thrown a rock
underhand and they throw it right back underhand. We throw
it underhand, they throw it back underhand.

Speaker 10 (01:23:41):
You know, great apes definitely understand physical humor. Lots of
videos they get it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Yeah, first ever ever had a rock exchange, was doing
just that kind of a thing in a slow motion.

Speaker 11 (01:23:54):
All right, story, what tell your last story?

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Oh? My last story? Yeah, okay, all right. So I
had taken a friend up to up to my research
area in Arizona, and there was he had never you know,
he had never experienced anything. Well, you know, the first
time we got up there, uh they you know, they

(01:24:23):
were clacking some rocks and he kind of uh you know,
responded back.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
With him and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Well, the next we went on hiking that day and
came back into camp I and of course cooked dinner,
and then you know, went to bed. Well, we were
in the tent and early morning I wake up and
just like you know any good camping trip, when you
wake up at six a m. You know, you know

(01:24:49):
you've got to, you know, do what nature intended you
to do, right, you go. So I walked across across
the camp and across this old logging road and right
to the edge of the woods and started relieving myself.
And you know, of course it was a really good
streamer and we I completed that with of course, I

(01:25:14):
was all by myself out there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Right, I did you say you were a good streamer?

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
What I said, it was a good It was a
good streamer. So yeah, And I was trying to trying
to be politically correct there. But I finished it off
with by passing some gas. And it was quite loud
and across probably about one hundred and fifty feet away

(01:25:39):
from me.

Speaker 7 (01:25:40):
I hear.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
This was six am in the morning. And I just
turned and I looked towards him and I said, as
I was zipping up my pants, I said, I said, oh,
did you like that? And they clacked a couple of rocks.
So at the time I walked back over to camp,
my friend's getting up and he's getting out of the
tent and I relay the story to him and and

(01:26:07):
he's like, where was that? And I said, right over here,
and I and pointed over to to the brush that
the laughter had come from, and and also the little
rock clacks, and and he says, oh, come on, And
I said, so, I just said, out to the woods,
you want to do you know those rock clacks again?
And they clacked and they clacked the rocks back, two clacks,

(01:26:28):
and you know, so I said, well, whantn't you answer him?
So he starts looking for a he starts looking for
a couple of rocks. Well, anyway, he ended up. I said,
just do a tongue clack to him. So he goes
back to him and and they clicked, you know, they
clacked the rocks back twice. Well he does it three times.

(01:26:49):
They responded three times, just in fun, you know. And
this went on for five minutes, where he would, you know,
pause between a couple of clacks, or do two clacks
and three clacks, and they'd exactly the same, mimicking him.
And like I said, and then finally he went and
then they were all quiet, and I said, wait to go.
I said, you pissed him off, took it too far.

(01:27:13):
But the laughter was the funniest part. And I think
that that ties right in. I mean that that they
have an absolute sense of humor.

Speaker 16 (01:27:21):
So everybody loves a good fart joke.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's I've had whistling exchanges, you know, whistling
back and forth. I've done that. In fact, one time
I was with Abe and we were doing whistling. And
of course you don't know what you know, you can't
see who's whistling back? But you know, two in the
morning in the woods. I mean, who's out there? I

(01:27:47):
don't know. Do you want to let Roger in?

Speaker 10 (01:27:49):
Yeah, welcome Roger. Here's our friend Roger Man. How you doing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
How y'all doing?

Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
There is good?

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Roger is uh the the host of the hit show
and all.

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
That's a great show on the Untold network.

Speaker 7 (01:28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
Yeah, uh, Doug, I heard dogs say my name, like, Oh,
I got to find a shirt, a clean shirt?

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Oh god, did I I just totally nailed you didn't I?

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
Yeah, you did?

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Sorry, you got Adam.

Speaker 5 (01:28:22):
We got to meet a few couple of weeks ago, yep,
down in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Oh you got to meet Roger? Yeah we did.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
We hung a.

Speaker 11 (01:28:30):
Yeah, I met a ton of people. It was a
great trip, Yes, sir, Thank you Chris, thank you Bud
for coordinating all that. And like I met, you know, everybody,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
So he went on.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
He went on a southern tour that a lot of
people would pay good money for.

Speaker 10 (01:28:49):
So I'd love to come on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Well, I heard he even got to hang out with Cumbo.

Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
You guys.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Yeah, we sat in his living room. Got to listen
to audio, right, Adam.

Speaker 11 (01:28:57):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Coo was playing all the cool clipses guy.
He took us out into the woods on his and
his property in one of the beautiful spots overlooking the
river and it was amazing. We did a lot. That
ten day trip was action packed, full of everything.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know Adam was by himself at
L B L and I've give him some giving him
some pointers. I thought he was with the group. He said,
thanks for scaring me and Bud he said, no, he's
by himself.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have said anything.

Speaker 11 (01:29:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm terrified of the dog Man already because
I've heard the old dogmen stories. And then you know,
Roger's sending me creepy stuff. What what did you send
me a warning about a bearer?

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
No, the one of the biggest wolves I've ever seen.
And I found a track in Red Hollow where you
were at that was beside like an eight inch iron skillet.
You know, it was massive, and the one I saw
was It's one of those things that you try to
explain it, but when you do, it's unbelievable. It was

(01:30:05):
the biggest dog I've ever seen. It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
So what does it mean to be windled.

Speaker 11 (01:30:12):
I got wend Yeah, got wendled.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
So so Wendell doesn't have to do anything with a
rocking horse.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
Dug.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Windows are unofficial reporter, uh for the Southeast. And he
don't care if you've got bad hair, just got up,
hangover whatever. He he'll come up throw a camera in
your face. That who are you and where are you from?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
And what are you doing?

Speaker 16 (01:30:40):
I've been wendled.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
I have not been wendled.

Speaker 10 (01:30:45):
Oh nice, there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:30:48):
I got my hat on.

Speaker 16 (01:30:50):
I've got one of those in the bedroom.

Speaker 10 (01:30:54):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
Yeah, windows are buddy. He's from he's from South Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Yeah, so what are you podcasting from the salon?

Speaker 17 (01:31:03):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
A don't know where are you?

Speaker 11 (01:31:05):
I'm in my lounge chair.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Lounge lounge, your lounge casting.

Speaker 11 (01:31:12):
I need therapy after this weekend that you put me
in the kids room.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
How long did it take for your back to recover
the chiral?

Speaker 11 (01:31:20):
First thing Monday? Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Yeah, okay, anyhow do we want to do clips or
do we want to just do I don't care what
we do? Why don't we do one clip? One story?
One clip, one story?

Speaker 10 (01:31:34):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
All right?

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
So clip two?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Clip two is a chimp tag bop. I thought this
was kind of interesting. Just pops some on the head
and leaves. Primates do have a sense of humor. Absolutely,
let's do this one more and then okay, do one
more clip three. It's it's a short clip. This is

(01:31:59):
this uncle mirror. I'm sure most of you have seen this,
but it's it's it is interesting. It's the reason I
think they look in our windows because they get to
see themselves. That's how Adam acted when he saw his room. Well,

(01:32:33):
I you know what, I love watching know they They
they get that pilo erection. Their hair gets all kind
of stands up on end, yep, and they're trying to
intimidate themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Apparently that's interesting. So they don't actually attack the mirror.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
They know. Have you seen this clip before?

Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
I have not. I haven't either, you haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
No, Oh, it's interesting to see what they do. Yeah,
I have a feeling Carl is going to be going
to the store and buying.

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
A big mirror.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
I've got one, I have one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Look at their behavior, it's just fascinating. I think they're
pretty sure it's another you know, another Jim. It's fascinating.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
That's interesting that they're slapping the ground with their hands
and feet.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Well, they're trying to intimidate any other.

Speaker 18 (01:33:34):
Jump.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
This guy's like, I'm gonna pull a branch off in
Chile's straw. I am money, can't really hit the ground.
It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, all right, that's enough of that crap.

Speaker 10 (01:34:02):
That's a cool clip.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Yeah, very cool. Okay, So Russie, you said you have
a story of your encounter.

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Let's give him the floor.

Speaker 16 (01:34:14):
I think Rogers probably already heard this before, but.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
But I'll Rodgers heard everything, twist everything.

Speaker 11 (01:34:20):
Of course.

Speaker 16 (01:34:23):
So I really did have a face to face bigfoot encounter.
This was way back in nineteen eighty. I was in
college at the time, and I was working at a
little resort lake in Arkansas, just across the Mississippi River
from Memphis, and myself and another guy who was in

(01:34:45):
college with me were working as lifeguards at this lake.
And every evening after the swimming time was over, he
and I kind of got to do whatever he wanted.
So we go out in our boat and go fishing
from you know, after six o'clock to win.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
Ever, it got dark.

Speaker 16 (01:35:01):
So it was summer of nineteen eighty and I remember
this and I think this is important. It was the
hottest summer on record at the time in the Memphis,
Tennessee area. They had like thirty consecutive days over one
hundred degrees with no rain, so very hot, very dry. Anyway,
so we're out on the lake fishing, and we're using

(01:35:24):
our trolling motors, so we're going very quietly. We weren't
saying anything, just slowly trolling down parallel to the shore
of this like maybe ten fifteen yards offshore, and all
of a sudden, we hear from the shoreline some rustling,
like in the leaves because it's very heavily overgrown on

(01:35:48):
someone is like a jungle there. There's cypress trees, there's
Spanish moss, There's all kinds of stuff there, so it's
very thick vegetation. Anyway, we look up at where this
sound is coming from, and all of a sudden we
see the head and shoulders of what I could only
describe as you know, what a bigfoot should look like.

(01:36:11):
It was hairy on everywhere except for its face. The
face itself was dark, you know, like dark brown to black.
The face also was sort of, as I like to say,
halfway between looking like a human face and an ape
face in the sense that the nose was kind of

(01:36:32):
smashed down and widened with upturned nostrils, but it did
not have a typical brow ridge like an ape does.
And we saw him only from about like nipples up,
basically chest up, because he was behind he or she
was behind the vegetation like that. So we stared at

(01:36:54):
each other, and I got the impression that we had
startled him or surprised him as much as he had
surprised us. So we just stared at each other for
maybe ten seconds something like that, before he turned and
ran off into the brush, and we could hear him
running away, but he disappeared from sight and you know,

(01:37:14):
second or two because the vegetation was so thick, so
we could hear him running and it sounded like he
was on two feet until we heard him go up
the levee, which is just right next to Mississippi River,
so it's in the levee system. Ran up the levee
and beyond. We couldn't hear him after that, so my
buddy and I in the boat are thinking, what in

(01:37:35):
the hell was this, and we didn't know what to do.
We immediately started the big motor and raced back into
our little cabin that we stayed in, which was about
a quarter of a mile down the lake, and went in,
locked the doors, loaded all of our guns because we
didn't know what it was, and we talked about it,

(01:37:55):
and we ended up deciding not to tell anybody because
we didn't know what to say or who would believe this.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:38:03):
The first thing we suspected was if we told the
adults that were in charge, they say, all those boys
been drinking again, are they're you know, they're telling stories whatever.
So we didn't tell anybody, and I went straight from
there to medical school and residency and fellowship, and so
I kind of put that aside for many years, didn't

(01:38:24):
really much even think about it until probably fifteen odd
years ago I stumbled on the Bigfoot Research Organization website
and they have a splot there where you can post
your encounter by region, area, by state. Even so I

(01:38:45):
did that. I posted that encounter on the BFROS site,
and I started getting phone calls from people asking me
to share that experience with them, and I started doing
podcasts and various other things. So that's what he was.
I mean, it was not terribly exciting. I guess, as
big footing counters go, we were not intimidated. It was

(01:39:09):
not like a bluff charge. We didn't hear any vocalizations,
we didn't smell anything. We just stared and looked at
it face to face from like I said, maybe fifteen
yards apart, for between five and ten seconds, so we
got a good look at his face. He got a
good look at us. As I said, I couldn't see

(01:39:30):
him below, like chest down, so I can't tell you
exactly how tall he was. It certainly seemed large. In
other words, his shoulders seemed to be larger than that
of a normal man. His head seemed to be bigger
than that of a normal human. But beyond that, I
can't really say much about the dimensions of the hight,

(01:39:52):
or weight or anything of it. So that's my story,
And that's kind of like I said, after many years
are kind of putting it aside. I brought it back
out again. I told my wife about it, told various
other people. My buddy actually unfortunately died about ten years ago,
so he's gone. But I've told you know a number

(01:40:14):
of people online about it. So that's that's what it
amounts to. You know, it seems kind of boring to me,
but that's what it is.

Speaker 11 (01:40:24):
Great story.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
And by the way, if you're in the background and
you have a story, we don't care what it is.
It could be any kind of story, an encounter or whatever.
It could be a time glitch. All you gotta do
is in the in the chat you have posted your
your email. He's gonna post it again. All you gotta

(01:40:46):
do is just just say hey, I want to come on,
and he'll send you a joint link. That's simple.

Speaker 10 (01:40:53):
I just sent one out. We'll see if he comes
back with us.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
There it is. Have you had a feast to face Roger?

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
Not not face to face, but about one hundred and
sixty or seventy yards cleared about a thirty second encounter.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
But it wasn't it was the backside. Yeah, well it was.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
It was side view. I got to see it walk
up the hill and uh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
But we need to have a name for that, because
you know, I'm in the same camp. I just keep
seeing the back.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
It did turn and look at me, but it wasn't like,
you know, ten yards away, so it kind of acknowledged.
I've been hunting that area since I was eight and
I was fourteen at this time, and when it stepped out,
it's just you know, people say the first thing I noticed,
and you're like, but your brain is noticing everything at
the same time. So that's why scrambles. You can't think straight.

(01:41:51):
You know, Do I run, do I sit still?

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:41:53):
What what do I do?

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
It was looking to where it w was going to
go up in a gas out where an gate was
that had been open for decades and so the honeysuckles
and the vines and stuff you couldn't close it. It
was looking that way and then all of a sudden,
it's like it either realized I was there or just
let me know, Hey, I know you're there and I'm

(01:42:17):
not worried about you. It turned it turned like that
and looked right at me, and that's when I'm like, uh, oh.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
What do I do? But I stayed.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
I don't know what made me stay. I don't know
if I was too scared to run, but getting to
see it walk up the hill was one of the
one of the things that told me. You know, my
fourteen year old mind, you know, I knew it wasn't right.
The color all from head to toe, the size and
all that comes along with it. And the thing we

(01:42:49):
can't explain is the mass. You know, the mass just
blows your mind. But when it started walking up the
hill and I had done that, you know, several times,
hated it because the way the grass regrow every year,
the guy wouldn't cut it every year, and it's tough
to walk through. You couldn't wade through it. And this
thing was just stepping right over it, just like a

(01:43:10):
walking horse motion, and where I would have to put
my legs up and over, yeah, dumbling up heels.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
So yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
It was pretty intense. And I don't know whether the
worst part was seeing the thing or not being able
to talk to anybody for twenty five thirty years. Yeah,
you know, you don't know what to say, no, no,
And when I was a kid, I could get by
with you ever seen a big foot?

Speaker 7 (01:43:33):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
But as you get in eighteen nineteen twenty, you can't
get by with that so much.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
So well, well, look how it's affected you. I mean,
you've kind of devoted your current life to the mystery.
And obviously you wouldn't be here, rusty if you hadn't seen.

Speaker 16 (01:43:48):
That, correct, Why would you?

Speaker 10 (01:43:51):
You know?

Speaker 16 (01:43:51):
Oh, absolutely you know, and I remember thinking, you know,
when I went straight from there to medical school, what
was I going to say in medical school or fellowship?
You know, does that, you know, disqualify me somehow? Does
that question my integrity? My you know, so I you know,
just didn't say anything at all for longest time.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Yeah, don't blame you. Okay, let's do another clip. I
want to show a big foot clip. And there's a reason.
Let's go to clip. Let's see here, uh clip eight.
Couldn't run that now, this clip represents an animal or

(01:44:35):
a creature that my Joe, you know, Joe him, would
Joe lie? No, no, there's not a chance he would lie.
Joe saw this creature. Couldn't play it first. It's actually
not bad footage. It's crouching under a bunch of it's

(01:44:58):
a it's a windbreak, a farm buy big marine lake.
And the people that shot it would not come forward.
They dropped it off at a news station anonymously and
they left and this was then recorded from the TV
screen when they played it on the news. And Joe

(01:45:19):
had seen this exact creature based on the color, just
days before, and so whatever it was headed east, he
saw it on the shore of Ronde Lake. They walked
right in front of his car, broad daylight and stepped
over a barberre fence like it wasn't even there. And

(01:45:40):
he calls me up and he goes, do youer walk
up right?

Speaker 7 (01:45:43):
I'm like what.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
He's like, well, did youer walk up right? And he
described the color and then this was shot and I
ran ads in the their local paper for months trying
to get them to come forward, and they wouldn't. Nobody
came from. Not one person answered, not even a Hoaxter
answered the ad because they had a reward out for

(01:46:08):
those people to come forward. But anyhow, so that's uh.

Speaker 11 (01:46:12):
Maybe maybe they will nowadays.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
Maybe it's that footage is legit based on the fact
Joe sees it and then two days later this, I
mean literally could draw a straight line from when they
saw that and filmed it. I mean that's a pretty
good evidence that tells me that footage is right. Won't
you just play it one more time? Real quick?

Speaker 10 (01:46:32):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Now that people know this story, I was focused in
on the thigh, think you hear me? I found it
interesting how it's crouched way down. Yeah, And I have

(01:46:56):
studied the film. It's it's got some pretty hefty legs.
You know. Of course people are like, oh, that's a suit,
you know, Well, obviously it could be. But Joe described
the creature that walked in front of his car about
eight foot tall and it just stepped over a four
and a half ft barbee or fence like it wasn't

(01:47:17):
even there. So there you go. Let's do one more
and then we'll come back to our crazy crew here.
Let's see here, let's play.

Speaker 11 (01:47:31):
Oh man, Jeff, I sent you a couple of pictures
from lbl ye.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Well, yeah, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk
about lbl adam. Okay, there's a clip here of a
horseshoe crab, but there's some history on it, and I
found it interesting because they're claiming the horseshoe crab was
here before the dinosaurs and before a lot of the
stars were even born in the sky, that this animal

(01:47:59):
existed on Earth.

Speaker 10 (01:48:00):
Gohad what clip five?

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
I believe? I believe? So yeah, clip five?

Speaker 10 (01:48:07):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:48:08):
What second here, dude, take a look at this is it?

Speaker 10 (01:48:14):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:48:15):
It's just an animal that's been here on Earth for
nearly half a billion years?

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
What? Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:48:22):
Man, this is a model of the horseshoe crab, living
creatures which look pretty much identical to their four hundred
and fifty million year old ancestors, which is why they're
often referred to as living fossils. They just appear to
have changed very little over this vast period of time. Well,
mature definitely settled on a freaky looking crab.

Speaker 7 (01:48:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:48:44):
Well, truth be told, they're not actually crabs at all.
They actually belong to the subphylum shellisara alissa. What calisarada?

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
Man?

Speaker 18 (01:48:52):
It just means that they're more closely related to things
like spiders and scorpions than they are to actual crabs.
But here's the thing, man, even though they might look
a little scary, they're totally harmless to humans. Their little
claws are really weak, and their tail doesn't stab or sting.
It's just there to help them move around. Oh cool,
I still wouldn't want to be near one. Look, dude,

(01:49:13):
these guys were here way before dinosaurs were, let alone humans,
all right, so maybe show your elders a little more respect.
In fact, I don't think you get it, man. Horseshoe
crabs are quite literally astronomically old. They predate the existence
of many of the stars we see at night. No

(01:49:35):
oh yeah, the brightest star in the night sky, Serious,
the Pleiades star cluster, and Beetlejuice Ryan's Shoulder have all
been found to be younger than horseshoe crabs. Each of
these stars and many others had yet to form while
these guys were crawling around on Earth, and really the
night sky has entirely changed since these creatures have been around,

(01:49:59):
not only because lots of familiar stars didn't exist way
back when, but also because none of our constellations did either.
What do you mean, Well, stars are not stationary. Every
star we can see, including the Sun, is moving through space,
going around the galactic center, and these motions do eventually

(01:50:20):
lead to changing stellar configurations as seen from here on Earth.
It takes an astronomically long time to notice, but constellations
are only temporary, and horseshoe crabs have been around for
many different versions of the night sky. Wow, yeah, I
mean think about this. The Sun takes about two hundred

(01:50:41):
and thirty million years to fully orbit the galactic center,
meaning that horseshoe crabs have literally been all the way
around the Milky Way galaxy just about two times. They
are two galactic years old. Okay, that is awesome.

Speaker 10 (01:50:59):
There you go your video.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
I just thought it was interesting. Yeah, the kid that
presented that it was I thought it was fascinating. We
used to go catch horseshoe crabs on Santa bel Island
in Florida, and there was a river in ding Darling. Uh.
I think it's state park. It's called ding Darling State Park,

(01:51:21):
named after the comic the comic artists that lived on
santabel Island. But I would take my kids there and
we'd collect horseshoe crabs. Shells they're everywhere, and they would
mate there. It was just a really cool little.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Did you ever eat it?

Speaker 10 (01:51:36):
The monkey duck?

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
Monkey duck? No, I hated the other kind of duck
with the F word, but not the monkey one.

Speaker 5 (01:51:47):
Santa Bell was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
I used to go there every winter and just spend
a month there, you know, just because it was so
wild back in the days. That's kind of a co
I mean, you'd go to that Jerry's supermarket. There'd be
always alligators in the parking lot. It was crazy. I
loved it. Okay, anyhow, Adam, so you're one of the

(01:52:11):
few idiots that I know that we ever go to
the l d L the land between the lakes l
b L and camp alone. Yep, why would you do that?
I mean, that's the that's the legendary werewolve lighting capital
of the world, and you go there. It's like, oh,
I'm gonna go camping at the old.

Speaker 11 (01:52:30):
Home.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
It was on the way home. Okay, that's a great
reason to get eaten.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
Would have done it it?

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Okay? I know you, Carl, You're just as nutty as Adam.
How about you, Roger? Would you camp alone at the
l b L No, exactly, rusty, would you?

Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:52:50):
I don't think so. I've offered a chance to go
with other people.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Yeah, wouldn't even go on other people.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Yeah, we've we've camped there quite a bit, you know,
with other people. But I try to get into the middle,
in the middle where you know they're smart, you don't
want to be.

Speaker 13 (01:53:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:53:06):
I tried to go with Roger on one of those trips.
I think that Roger went on and I just couldn't
get away to do it. So, yeah, I would do
it with other people, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:15):
To meet Okay, So the place that Adam went, I
went the first time I ever visited the place. I
asked Daryl, didt'on, like, you know, where should I go?
And then he didn't answer right away, so naturally I
went right to the first place he told me not
to go along. And then we saw tracks from about
eighty yards in the mud, and I went out and

(01:53:37):
filmed the tracks. There was over thirty tracks, large mail,
the mama and the kids running everywhere, and I'm scared
to death.

Speaker 10 (01:53:46):
You can hear it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I'm nervous. I see a wolf track that's huge. And
I come back to the truck and the doors had
been opening. The windows were down when I left, they're locked.
The windows were up, and what are you doing? And
she opened the door and she said, while you were
out there, a rock came out of the woods behind
the truck and bounced and skipped under the truck. And

(01:54:07):
I'm like, well, that's when you blow the horn. I
didn't even have my phone with me, had a little
poor man's GoPro, so leaning up at him, I'm like, yeah,
you know, I found a family full of bigfoot tracks
and a big wolf and I did not know he
was there himself.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Okay, I apologize, but Adam you had an experience, didn't
you the moment you arrived there.

Speaker 11 (01:54:28):
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty nutty, well good, and tell
us told me which site to go to, and they
told me why to go there, and the reason why
they said go there is because it's on the side
of the hill. And I guess they come down through
that site and they go to the water's edge and
then to eat. So I'm like, yeah, this is this

(01:54:49):
is cool whatever. So I get to the campsite and
there's only two other people there. So there's twenty, you know,
twenty plus campsites. I don't know, maybe even thirty, I
don't know, there's a lot, but there was only two
other people in the camp. In the camp. So I
pull up and my whole mission is just to get
ready for bed, sleep one night, hit the road, come
back to Minnesota the next day. But I get there

(01:55:11):
and immediately things start happening. There's branches breaking, there's rocks
being tossed into my camp, and they just sound like
they were angry at me. And then Roger basically tells me,
I send him pictures of these things. And you know,
Jeff's got the pictures right now, you can put them
up whenever. But I find these things at the water's

(01:55:31):
edge and there's muscles in them. There's like five or
six of these little traps and fish traps or muscle
traps or whatever they are, and that's kind of what
I want to talk to the audience about. But somebody
or something made these traps, and every one of them
was working because they all had muscles in him. So
I figure they come down to the water's edge and

(01:55:53):
and eat muscles. And maybe I interrupted dinner time or something,
I don't know, but man, they weren't happy with me.
They eventually, about an hour and a half later, they
calmed down and I didn't have any more craziness for
the rest of the night. But yeah, they were throwing
rocks at me for a good half an hour. So

(01:56:14):
but yeah, and then I found if you look down
the shoreline, you can't I didn't take a picture of it, unfortunately,
but right up against the pine trees, about twenty feet
from the shoreline, I found a boneyard as I was leaving,
and there was all sorts of fish skeleton and mussels,
shells and possibly some you know, other animals there, maybe
even some deer parts, but they were all right underneath

(01:56:37):
that tree. And I'm just like, Okay, who goes down
to the shoreline to eat and leaves a giant pile
of bones underneath the pine tree.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
So dog man, dog man, dog Man.

Speaker 5 (01:56:53):
There's been piles of those muscle shells found on the
other side of the bay in the woods. And I
texted the guy that fishes there all the time. He said,
he's never seen any.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Structures like that. Well, it looked to me like whatever
was putting, maybe somebody was something was putting muscles in
there to keep them fresh. So you catch them and
then you can store them on the shore so they
can't really get away. It's like a trap, a muscle cage, refrigerator,
a refrigerator exactly. By the way, Kenny is in if

(01:57:28):
you want to like Kenny, and.

Speaker 10 (01:57:29):
Yeah, welcome Kenny.

Speaker 7 (01:57:30):
Oo ray, how are you? Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
You can hear you. It's not like crap, we can
hear you.

Speaker 7 (01:57:39):
Yeah, well, half West Virginia. You'll have to forgive me.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Well no, no, no, no, do wean not. Just have
your move your mic a little bit away, just so
it's a little farther, a little bit farther. Yeah, there
you go. Perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:57:52):
Is that better?

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
Yes, sir, that's matter.

Speaker 7 (01:57:54):
Because you can't see me now.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
No, I didn't. I didn't mean to you to move back.
I met your mic.

Speaker 7 (01:58:03):
My phone.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Oh I got you, Okay, I got you. I got you.

Speaker 7 (01:58:07):
I get a little shaky. I'm nervous.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
Oh that's fine. Have you ever been on a podcast, Kenny.

Speaker 7 (01:58:16):
Welcome?

Speaker 13 (01:58:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Yeah, we got a new one and we're gonna we'll
make you love it. Okay, But Adam, you're I would
imagine the rocks quit, you found the bones. You slept
like a rock. You always do, except in that room
I put you in, exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:58:36):
I'm just wondering if any uh, you know, viewers have
seen these things, or you know, talk to Chris about it.
He said, Oh, they're just fish traps. People make them
all the time, and you know, they're no big deal.
And I'm just like, I thought it was weird because
I'm like, who, who's going to sit there and eat fish? Like, well,
we got fishing poles, why wouldn't we fish? You know,

(01:58:57):
why would you make fish traps?

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Right? I mean just like in Arizona, I found that
one very very large fish trap on the river and
it was the amount of material that it was moved
in order to make it, and including of course the
wide fingered impressions that were left there from creating it.

Speaker 18 (01:59:21):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
It was pretty remarkable. But it certainly looked very similar,
except a much larger than than the ones you found.

Speaker 10 (01:59:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:59:32):
Mine were about the size of a regular seat cushion,
so they were you know, Kenny, you had any experience
with fish traps, but what fish traps?

Speaker 7 (01:59:44):
Fish traps?

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
No, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
And it's odd too that you find those piles of
muscle shells in the woods with no fire around, so
something sitting there eating them raw and stacking the shales, and.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
It was it was just a raccoon. Why wouldn't they
eat him right there on the shore?

Speaker 10 (02:00:04):
Yeah, they would see them. That's good insight about the fire.
That's a really good insight.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Yeah. Can you put that picture up because there was
one photo he showed me where you could see like
four or five of those. Oh, there's two of them
right there. Yeah, there's the one closest to the camera.
There's another one, and it's like a little little tidepool. Yeah.
I think it's nature's I think they were using him

(02:00:31):
as refrigerators.

Speaker 10 (02:00:33):
That makes sense.

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
I saw something Mike on say the squats one time
on one of theirs and stream look like that?

Speaker 10 (02:00:44):
Really?

Speaker 7 (02:00:44):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
So Kenny, have you seen anything? Have you had any
kind of encounters?

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
I haven't had a big fit sighting caught in an
orb up in New Hampshire. I sent you a picture
and I have a possible how I recorded in Canall
State Forest here in Charleston.

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
But what but what I'm getting at is why are
you so interested in this mystery? Because we obviously talked
about Bigfoot mainly.

Speaker 7 (02:01:13):
I've always I growed up, you know, I watched all
the monster quests and all that stuff. That I had
a couple of rotator cuff surgeries and started researching Bigfoot
a little bit, and then I started to get back
in shape. Rush Jones gave me an area he researches
in Canall State Forest, so we, my wife and I

(02:01:34):
started researching and hiking. I'm back in good shape now
and all that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
So well good, I'm glad you're feeling better, so we go.

Speaker 7 (02:01:43):
Well that was back in twentyd and six seventeen and eighteen.
I had two rotator cuff surgeries, so I was shut
down for about three years but I've been researching before that,
but I really got into it then. I watched a
lot of podcasts and stuff, and like I said, Rush
Jones gave me one of his areas to research. So

(02:02:03):
we uh, that's what we do. We we we high
and get exercise. I get a lot of pictures of
just beautiful scenery and lost eighty pounds hiking and researching.
It's all for you. Everything benefits you know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
Yeah, absolutely, it's it's it's a great mystery and if
you can get exercise, enjoy the outdoors, it's a win
win win.

Speaker 7 (02:02:33):
Yeah. Yeah, we've I've got a couple of foot tracks.
I've sent you all that stuff you.

Speaker 3 (02:02:39):
Did, and I would have to go get it, which
I could maybe do.

Speaker 7 (02:02:43):
Yeah, I got that that orbs in there, and I
got the foot prints and plus the how Dave Ellis.
I think Dave was going to check out how that form.
I haven't heard back from me yet.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
Yeah, I forwarded it off to him. Yeah. I might
be able to just escape for a few minutes and
get it to Jeff. Uh, I see Tristan's in the house. Tristan,
if you want to come on just then, Jeff. The
little request and he'll get you a link.

Speaker 4 (02:03:15):
I probably have to drop for tonight, but oh please Carl.

Speaker 10 (02:03:21):
Good to see.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
Yeah, man, I really appreciate it. And what a blast
we had last last weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
First to meet you. As you know, it was really
cool as Carl was the vi P that whole weekend
and he would he would make us feel like peons.
What do you doing girl? You want to go to breakfast?

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
No, no, no, I'm going to the vi P breck.
No what are you doing to you want to have
dinner with us? No, I'm going to the vi P dinner. So, yeah,
Carl got to be a vi P.

Speaker 7 (02:03:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
I talked with a lot of people, and boy, I
really appreciated hearing everyone's stories and it was it was
a great time.

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
The conferences are nice and you got to meet Russell,
Cord and Maria and you got to obviously meet me
in person, which was cool to hang out like we did.

Speaker 10 (02:04:13):
So it was great to meet you in person. We
had a lot of fund we talked.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
I do have to apologize to you profoundly for saying
what's up all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
It's okay, I'm used to it.

Speaker 16 (02:04:29):
Stop.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
Yeah, I couldn't resist anyhow, well, thanks, Carl, we'll talk
to you. We'll talk to you, so we'll probably talk
to you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (02:04:37):
All right, yeah, all right, sounds great.

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
There see this is more room for you. Kenny.

Speaker 7 (02:04:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Doug, Oh my.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
God, I can say one thing about you. Kenny got
an awful cool name. If I had a name like
Kenny has, God knows where i'd be today.

Speaker 6 (02:04:59):
I I got.

Speaker 7 (02:05:00):
I got a grandson named Miller Hypes. He's gonna be
a football star. There you go and beer commercial.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
So what what is it about the mystery that convinces
you they're real? You know, as somebody who hasn't seen one,
what do you think the best evidence is?

Speaker 7 (02:05:23):
You got to compile everything. It's the it's all doctor
Meldrem's work, the foot prints, and you know, you got
all the hair samples, then you got the witness testimonies.
There's just there's too many reports for everybody to be
a liar. It's it's got to be you know, it's
got to be something more than there's just too many,

(02:05:43):
too many sightings. Yeah, and it's just like UFOs, there's
so many sightings that everybody can't be a liar.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
But well, I like the way you're thinking, because it
really is a collective. It's it's not any one thing,
it's everything.

Speaker 7 (02:06:04):
That's like what Dave Ellis does with the sound work,
what you do with you know, with all all the
people you bring on. It's it's it's uh, you have
to weigh all the evidence, not just one a bit
here and a bit there. It's it's a little bit
of everything.

Speaker 10 (02:06:21):
Do you want me to go?

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Let me, let me bop out of here, and I'll
go send those recordings.

Speaker 10 (02:06:27):
To uh Jeff, Yeah, yeah, I got to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06:32):
Do you want them email? Or can I put them
in a messenger?

Speaker 7 (02:06:35):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:06:35):
Emails easier, but I can figure out if messengers easier.
I'll figure it out either way. Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 3 (02:06:41):
I think you can just play it. Well maybe not, Okay,
I'll go. I'll see if I can get them in.
It's hard to remove things.

Speaker 7 (02:06:48):
Yeah. The beginning of the beginning of the first email
or first chat we had was the ORB and then
it just goes down. I got the foot prints, I've
got some evidence from hanging up State Forest, you know,
the rock up in the tree, and I got some
tree structures from down and hanging Rock Forest and State

(02:07:08):
Forest in North Carolina. But the orbs from up in
New Hampshire. I do my bigfoot call, and that's the
orbs showed up up there in New Hampshire. My wife
and I was taking a break on a pond called
Falls Pond, and that ORB showed up. We got a

(02:07:29):
picture of it, and there was another one farther back
in the woods. We didn't get a woman come down
with her dog. When we got to chatting, I got
distracted and then it was gone, Yes, I've made the
call I make. I make a whistle like call, and
I've had I've called in codies and I got an ORB,

(02:07:50):
and now I got maybe that bigfoot just depends on
whether it's a bigfoot or possible cody. That's about the
anything it could be. Where I was at that with
that how I got.

Speaker 3 (02:08:02):
I'm really tempted to ask you to do your call. Call.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
Well, I blow through my knuckles. It sounds like a
dove on steroids. But when I do it close to
my phone, it does. I do you do have it
on your I think I sent you that call. It's
towards the end of our emails, the call I make,
but it don't it don't really sound good up close. Now,

(02:08:27):
if I get out in the wide open out of
my house, I can do it really good. I may
have to. I may have to go outside and do
it for you to where you could hear it that way.
I don't know what it is about being inside, but
it don't sound the same. But it's I blow through
my knuckles, you know, Uh, you clap, you cusp your

(02:08:49):
hands and blow through that. Yeah, well it sounds like
don't it sounds like a big old dove on steroids.
But one of Dave Elis's, Dave Elsi's and Manga he
was calls. It sounds like a call from when they're
a distant call a distant like a locator call. Don't

(02:09:11):
I don't do it. I don't do the big house
or whoops or anything. I just do that whistle. I
don't do tree knocks or anything. I just that whistle.
So I do right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
Well, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. You guys can do whatever.
Roger tick over telling telling telling Adam's story, No doubt
Adam I got down there.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
Adam is just a great guy.

Speaker 3 (02:09:35):
He is funny too.

Speaker 5 (02:09:37):
I could joke with ad him. He you know, even
if he didn't get it, he'd laugh, he'd be you know,
he was nice. I've got the story. Actually, so Adam, Bud,
my wife and I, Coombo and Greg. We're all out
on the point and it got dark and they I
don't do calls. I don't have a strong voice. They're
practicing their calls. Combo's doing a few, and then I

(02:10:00):
think Adam might have tried one, and then Bud, well,
we didn't hear it. This cruise ship on the river
slipped up on us and we were all wondering what
they were thinking was going on on that little knobb.
It was just right at dark, and I don't know
who brought it up. But it was quiet, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:19):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
Yeah, but I would love to hear some of their stories.
They may they may send you an email. Hey, we
heard Bigfoot down in Alabama on a cruise ship. But
that was interesting to see the different type cause and
I think some people were kind of self conscious doing
a call in front of Coombo, but all of them

(02:10:41):
are great.

Speaker 6 (02:10:43):
I just can't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Is this the best story you can come up with
on Adam?

Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:10:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (02:10:49):
Hey, I got a question for Adam. Yeah, hey, Adam,
have you seen the speaking of LBL. There was some
are thermal footage from earlier this year that a couple
of friends of mine and Rogers and other people took
that are that is just fascinating that maybe it looks
like an upright creature of some kind. Some people think

(02:11:12):
it looks more like a dog man. I thought it
looked more like a bigfoot. But it's from March or
so of this year. Uh, And I histed toy give
their names because I don't know whether they want to
share that or not. But they're people that that that
we know, several of us know well, and it's from
l b L.

Speaker 11 (02:11:29):
I met those people at Flat Rocks, got to sit
next to them, and they told me the whole story.
And yes, that footage is very compelling, and that's one
of the reasons they're They're the ones who told me
exactly where to go, you know, in addition to Roger.
So everyone everyone got me to the same spot, which
was really cool. And uh, yeah I did get to

(02:11:49):
meet them and see hear their story.

Speaker 16 (02:11:51):
Oh yeah, they're great, nice people.

Speaker 11 (02:11:53):
Yep. Scared scared me to death.

Speaker 7 (02:11:55):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (02:11:56):
That spot that you went to there's a couple in
the area, but that one spot seems to it seems
to have more activity. I'm wondering if it's just because
there's a family unit there or whatever you want to
call it. And they try and they try to run

(02:12:16):
you off because you know, we've three years before. I
didn't know this, but a trackway was found in the
same place. And then when I posted mine on my show,
I started getting these these emails and messengers and phone
calls like, hey, do you know about the read Noble trackway?
I like, no, I don't. And they did a great

(02:12:37):
job documenting that. They took plaster casts and you know,
did it was amazing.

Speaker 16 (02:12:42):
I met Patrick on that trip and had Patrick's in
the chat, or at least he was earlier.

Speaker 5 (02:12:48):
Yeah, he's a good man.

Speaker 11 (02:12:50):
He's a really really great guy. Yeah, he hit the phone.
He showed me the pictures of his trackway. And again,
I can letly understand why that area gets so much
trackway evidence because of the water and the way it
recedes and just creates a giant mud bake. You know,

(02:13:11):
there were tracks in the in the mud. But I
went out there and I was able to see a
shoe tread, so it. But the weird part about it
was it was like a size six children's shoe. It
was a little kid walking around in that mud. And
it was an interesting track. So I'm just like because
it started in the middle and walked out of the mud.

(02:13:34):
But I didn't see them walk into the mud, so
that was you know, I should have taken pictures, but
I'm just like, no, that's that's human activity. I'm not
going to waste my time. But it was interesting. But yeah,
lots of lots of mud. Great place to collect tracks.

Speaker 7 (02:13:49):
That's where we get our tracks is yeah, around the
creeks and into mud.

Speaker 11 (02:13:56):
Yep, makes sense. I'm gonna do something weird next time
I go out, I'm gonna bring like I'm gonna go
to the marble store and where they do marble countertops,
and I'm gonna have them cut me some pieces and
I'm gonna try to make like a giant marble obelisk
and put it down and like break the ground and

(02:14:17):
get it wet so to see if they come up
and touch it, because they you know, the whole thing.
I learned a lot more this weekend about the supernatural stuff,
and you know, quartz crystals and just all the you know,
things that I'd never even thought about before. So my
mind is definitely more open to the high strangeness sight

(02:14:38):
of things now. Again, I don't want to lean into
it too hard because if they're able to teleport in
and out, like, we'll never be able to catch them.
But I'm just I'm hoping that they slip up and
leave their prints and the mud for me.

Speaker 5 (02:14:53):
Well, Rusty's been to one of the stranger places down
you know, in Talladega National Forest, and there's quartz rocks
you just bend over and just pick them up everywhere.

Speaker 16 (02:15:04):
I've got several of them here at the house.

Speaker 5 (02:15:06):
I brought some, but uh, they're outside. They don't come
in the house. After what happen, does I'm not I'm
like Adam, I'm being a little cautious.

Speaker 7 (02:15:15):
There's a bunch of courts, and you are when we
went there.

Speaker 11 (02:15:21):
What's the campsite we went to in Alabama with Mark
Green So you.

Speaker 5 (02:15:28):
Were a creepy mountain and then there was Hollands. I
don't know if you went to Hollands or not.

Speaker 11 (02:15:32):
Yeah, I couldn't believe how much courts there was at Hollands.

Speaker 3 (02:15:35):
Yeah, that's where.

Speaker 5 (02:15:36):
That's where we're talking about.

Speaker 16 (02:15:38):
I've been there several times.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:15:39):
Yeah, I did collect some courts from there too, and
minus outside as well.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
I would suggest that Doug does a little thirty minute
to our show on Hollands itself. Yeah, on what Holland's
Hunter Camp. It's on the court it oh man, we
we need to talk about it.

Speaker 11 (02:15:59):
Yeah, it's where.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
It's where we caught the ORB a few months ago,
my ORB video that I showed you, and then I
have audio from last year it now it was on
my phone, but it was one of the loudest screams
I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
It was So I've got something that I want to
show everybody, say, Kenny, I couldn't see. I forwarded those
to David through Messenger and I can't get them off
Messenger to Jeff.

Speaker 19 (02:16:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
Here's why, because they got old enough now where they've
locked me out of my old messages. Yeah, you know
Facebook is I have a word for Facebook, but I'm
not going to say it. So if you want to
just send them to Jeff, is there a way you
can just like step out for a second and get
them forwarded.

Speaker 7 (02:16:52):
To Jeff, Yeah, I got something right here. I'll show you.
Uh my boss just panded me before I'll send him.
I'll send him the ORB pictures and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:17:04):
Okay, but we want to hear the hole.

Speaker 7 (02:17:07):
Yeah, yeah, okay, here's the can you see my.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
Yeah, let's get let's get on full screen. There we go.

Speaker 10 (02:17:17):
Yeah, what is this?

Speaker 7 (02:17:20):
This is the sixth fifteen and a half inch print
I got out. I cast it out of Kenall State
Forest and uh, it's seven inches right at the top
and the hill was around four and a half. It's
a little bit of overcast on the hill at the top.
The top was the end of ground to the hill.
I kind of had to pour out. It wasn't real deep.

Speaker 3 (02:17:42):
So why are there toes on the very side of
the right side of the foot? You know?

Speaker 7 (02:17:46):
One thing in the dead center of the foot there
was it was this was on a path and there
was rocks solid rock, and that was leaf litter warth.
It was coming down the side of a trail and
this was it's on an old gaswell road and the

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big toe came out real well. And in between the
big toe and the smaller toes was where that holly
spot was where there was a rock right in the
middle that was That was the one and this is
the other. This is the other footprint I got. It's

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like fourteen inches and it come It had a curve
in it which throwed people off. It was stepping up
out of a stream. This was at the base of
a little hill about four foot tall and a stream.
There's a little bench down in that stream that stepped
up almost four foots. I'm thinking it may have had

(02:18:53):
some torque on it when it When it did this,
it was pretty deep. I couldn't put my to put
my boot down. I couldn't even put an impression. Very cool. Yeah,
this was an extreme Yeah, very cool. And what I'll do,
I'll send Jeff that ORB and that how yeah, yeah,

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and I'll send that to him.

Speaker 3 (02:19:17):
Yeah. You can just you can just there's a little
thing where you can just click your camera. It just
shuts your camera off and then you can do whatever
you need to do. Or you can just use the link.
You can actually exit out and then just come right
back and we'll let you.

Speaker 7 (02:19:31):
Okay, yeah, well I'll send you. I'll send you that Okay,
I'll send you a couple of three pictures or say
and Okay, see, thanks Kenny.

Speaker 3 (02:19:41):
We'll see a little bit and then we've got flat
rockland here and Tristan, I would love it if you'd
want to join.

Speaker 10 (02:19:51):
You're flat man.

Speaker 3 (02:19:54):
Oh there is there is, okay, Jeff, I just I
need everybody's opinion on this. Jeff, I sent you that
giant microphones that we sow. You got to see this, guys,
and Brendan said they've uncovered the third one. I figured

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there'd be three for doing triangulation.

Speaker 11 (02:20:21):
Interesting and you saw.

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
These big giant microphones right at them. So the story
goes it was a friend of a friend of Jeff's
friend's friend friend of Brendan's. Yes, yes, ran into these
giant microphone, ran into one and then searched the area
and I think the other one was almost like a

(02:20:43):
mile away, and then found a third one. But these
things are like the size of basketballs, and I'm thinking, uh,
what could that be? They're obviously recording some sound and
it's in Bigfoot country. That's what's so interesting stating about it. Yeah,
anybody want to venture to guess what these are, what

(02:21:07):
program they are operating. It's obviously government and I wouldn't
surprise me if they were bigfoot recording microphones because of
because of what happened to Adam. Remember your story, Yeah,
I mean you can. You can relay that story. I'd
be great, go ahead and relay it right now at.

Speaker 11 (02:21:26):
The DNR story.

Speaker 7 (02:21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:21:28):
Yeah, Well I got to my TP.

Speaker 3 (02:21:32):
Leave the picture up, hold on, leave the picture up, Jeff,
because I want people to be able to, you know,
in the future or even even right now, to be
able to go ahead. I know what that is, go
ahead at them. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:21:45):
So it was just the DNR stopped to buy right away,
and uh, they were kind of concerned because I was
in that area and they were like, yeah, we're we're
here to set up some some wildlife recording equipment and
I'm like, that's funny, That's what I'm doing too. And
they're like really, and they like, what are you doing, deerstad.

(02:22:08):
I'm like, no, I'm looking for bigfoot. I just said
it straight up, and they didn't laugh. They actually looked
at me quite seriously, and they said, oh, we hadn't
heard any recent reports. And I'm like, yeah, there was
a sighting here last week, so that's why I'm in
the area. And they're like they took it very seriously,
and they were going to set up cameras in my area.

(02:22:28):
But you know, they just looked at their maps and
they said something kind of strange. Actually, They're like, oh, well,
we're in the wrong area. Well we'll go set up
over there. And they drove on the on the trail,
which was pretty treachy. I took that trail on four
wheeler and they drove a truck back there and I

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don't know how they got across the small creek and everything,
because the bridge was only like three and a half
feet wide, but yeah, it was. They drove behind me
and disappeared and I didn't see them come out of
the woods. So they set up their cameras or whatever
somewhere nearby, but definitely, you know, I don't know. It

(02:23:10):
was just a whole weird.

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
It was just weird having these guys to show up
the minute you got set up with your cameras, yeah,
and saying, oh, we're going to do a deer study here. Yeah,
just come on. And then that internet truck pulled into
the middle of a national.

Speaker 11 (02:23:26):
Forest too, which was d Yeah, that was in the
black helicopters. I had lots of strange things there.

Speaker 3 (02:23:32):
Well, the the internet truck that pulled into this National forest.

Speaker 11 (02:23:36):
Telecom truck.

Speaker 3 (02:23:37):
Yeah, Telecom, they blocked your signal.

Speaker 10 (02:23:40):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 11 (02:23:41):
It was the day Doug was coming up with this
cameraman to interview me and stuff, and I was guiding
him in and I rode my foe wheeler all the
way down to the main junction, and when I was
sitting there, a telecom truck came and pulled in and
literally parked, you know, two hundred yards away. And right
when they did, I lost all cell service. I was

(02:24:04):
unable to text Doug or tell him where he you know,
find out where he was at, or his ETA or anything.
And so I jumped on my four wheeler and I
rode right up to him, about one hundred feet away,
and I just kind of stared him down because I'm like,
what the hell are you doing here. You're in the
middle of a national forest. There is no telephone poles
or wires of any kind here. Why do you have

(02:24:25):
a telecom truck sitting here? And eventually he got you know,
he just picked up and left. But then with the
minute he left, I got cell service back.

Speaker 3 (02:24:37):
Cool once. Yeah, it's just coincidence. Yeah, but Roger. Have
you ever seen anything like this, Hue?

Speaker 5 (02:24:45):
These things are the only thing I can't that comes
to mind. I saw a documentary out in It wasn't
Skinwalker Ranch, maybe it was Sedona, Yeah, Arizona, and they
were investigating and ran up bone some government type equipment.
It wasn't exactly like that, but they had the power

(02:25:05):
supply and h and audio and audio equipment there and
the people researching didn't know where it came from or
whose it was. So, but it wasn't exactly like that.

Speaker 3 (02:25:18):
Well what were the other ones used for?

Speaker 7 (02:25:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:25:21):
They didn't know it was. It was they It just
they appeared. They just appeared. And it was in a
it was in an area where the vort disease or
vortex uh and and they had reports of strangeness in
the area. So and they found a track. They found
a track that looked like a big foot track on

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the way in.

Speaker 3 (02:25:44):
Also, well, what's you know, we've all experienced the areas
that there's a sighting and they rope it off and
then Adam and you just had that happening. We gave
them coordinates to go to this spot and he gets
there and it's all it's all like what police taped off?

Speaker 11 (02:26:02):
Yeah, taped off. Yeah, like they they must have done
it the night before. There wasn't a single speck of
dust on the tape.

Speaker 3 (02:26:08):
Yeah, it was like they listened to our conversation and
then taped it off.

Speaker 11 (02:26:12):
Yeah, it just was there.

Speaker 3 (02:26:15):
How many coincidences can we tolerate? Is the question? And
then you sent me that that interesting? Uh oh, I
don't know. It's a video about what they're what the
government can do now legally, yep, if they want, they
can just do whatever they want, a lot.

Speaker 11 (02:26:36):
More freedom to just tap the bones and do whatever
they want.

Speaker 3 (02:26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:26:39):
The interesting thing about that video is they said that
ninety nine point seven percent of the requests get approved. Yeah,
untapping people.

Speaker 4 (02:26:50):
It's like, it's not.

Speaker 11 (02:26:51):
Even it's just a joke, that's just a formality exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:26:57):
You know, I do have something that vaguely looks like that.
I remember seeing it in the desert in Nevada, around
area fifty one, and I assumed that was, you know,
a listening point, because obviously that's very heavily patrolled and
controlled by the military, so I assumed that's it. I
don't think it looked exactly like that, but it was
you know, something fairly similar. Well that's where I would

(02:27:19):
assume it's some kind of listening device.

Speaker 3 (02:27:21):
Well sure, yeah, absolutely, it's a listening device and it's recording.
But the question is, uh, what are they doing it for?

Speaker 11 (02:27:29):
Doug semi coordinates? I know what I'm doing this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:27:32):
Oh you want to, Well they've yeah, we can. I've
got the exact GPS location of this. So yeah, you
can go up on up, go up to it and
go testing one two three, testing one two three.

Speaker 11 (02:27:44):
Yeah, Well that case isn't locked. I can open the
case and figure out what they're using for a power
supply and for a recording device.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Oh, I'm sure it's locked. I think. Okay, let's well,
let's talk tomorrow and I think we can get you
your answers before you go up. But yeah, we should talk.
But if anybody knows in the future, leave it in
the comments.

Speaker 16 (02:28:09):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
There are three of them. I guess they're about a
mile apart.

Speaker 7 (02:28:15):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
Whatever they're doing, they're trying to get a they're trying
to get a location on something, right, yep, triangulation, triangulation,
So who knows? Thanks Jeff, I appreciate you throwing that up.
Something can take it down now, okay, flat, what do
you think it is?

Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (02:28:39):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (02:28:40):
Yeah, loud and clear.

Speaker 6 (02:28:44):
Three of them within a mile radius.

Speaker 7 (02:28:47):
And that that.

Speaker 16 (02:28:50):
Oh, it's about the size of a like a volleyball
or a wow, like an omnidirectional microphone sort of.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
Yeah, definitely omni directional, absolutely, and it's big and expensive.

Speaker 6 (02:29:04):
Well I heard you talking about that van showing up
last week on I Forget her Name, the podcast you
were just on. I didn't know about all that. That
was last year, Adam, right, when you were out there
for a month.

Speaker 11 (02:29:16):
Yeah, two years ago. Yeah, I was out there from
two years ago yesterday.

Speaker 6 (02:29:21):
Yeah, I remember trying to freak you out in lifetime.
It's up behind you, man, two years that's bizarre. So yeah,
obviously they're listening to you, of course.

Speaker 7 (02:29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:29:36):
It makes you wonder why.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
Well the other thing too, and yeah, I don't want
to say it, but our look, let's just say the location.
The next location, Adam was going to set up a
whole bunch of cameras, right, yep, Uh, the location got
sabotaged really bad, or or let's just say a bunch

(02:30:01):
of pipes broke at the homestead where pipe broke and
flooded the entire out literally to the point the second
floor collapsed. Ye where where Adam was going to be
staying a.

Speaker 11 (02:30:13):
Few days before I was headed out there.

Speaker 3 (02:30:15):
Yeah, think about that once again. Another coincidence.

Speaker 6 (02:30:19):
Yeah, that's a lot of coincidences.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
And of course they've got delayed now because he can't
go out there because he needs you know, he needs
the power he needs. Everything's been shut down and it's
on indefinite hold.

Speaker 6 (02:30:33):
Isn't that make you wonder?

Speaker 3 (02:30:35):
It does make you wonder. I was on the phone
with my daughter, and I'm just going to say this publicly.
I was on the phone with my daughter and we
were talking about some pretty deep forensics I'm working on.

Speaker 6 (02:30:47):
Yeah, and all of a sudden we both heared.

Speaker 3 (02:30:51):
This call is being recorded and we both hear it,
and my daughter freaked out, and I said, okay, just
change the subject of family stuff. And then we heard
a beep and an echo. The beep echoed, and then
we talked about family stuff for a while, and then
we actually, okay, back to the forensics. We talked about

(02:31:12):
that here comes to that sound. He goes, this call
is now being recorded.

Speaker 5 (02:31:18):
Again, that's not even that's not even trying to hide it.

Speaker 3 (02:31:24):
It's like, what is going on?

Speaker 6 (02:31:26):
Yeah, it makes you think like they're trying to obviously
let you know that they're there.

Speaker 3 (02:31:33):
I don't know, or who knows, you know, I don't.
I'm not saying there it's government. But once again, it's
just it's just it's just one of those coincidences, again
and again and again and again. And this last one
over the weekend was the last straw. Well, we're going
out there, and we talked about it over the phone,

(02:31:53):
and now suddenly the whole place got flooded. I don't
want to see.

Speaker 6 (02:31:59):
Well what huh what last weekend?

Speaker 3 (02:32:02):
Yeah, and no, we can't go got canceled.

Speaker 11 (02:32:07):
I do have one more weird story I have, so Doug.
When I was testing that EMF meter for you, remember, yep,
I had to literally turn off all the power in
my house because all my WiFi and all that other
stuff was interfering with the meter.

Speaker 3 (02:32:22):
Right.

Speaker 11 (02:32:23):
I was trying to get a baseline duo reading. And
as I was testing this meter with no lights on,
I killed the main circuit breaker from my entire house.
All of a sudden, I got this crazy spike on
the meter, like right when I started my test, and
I couldn't figure out where it's coming from. And I
heard a noise outside. I walk outside, and thirty feet

(02:32:44):
away in the street, there's a police car top standing
out of the car pointing a radar gun at my
living room window. And I'm like, yeah, oh, what the hell?

Speaker 10 (02:33:04):
Yeah, Well, if I can interrupt you for a second,
Kenny is trying to get back in. I have some
pictures and audio from Kenny. Kenny, looks like your microphone
or camera are not on, so I can see you're
trying to get in, but it looks like your camera
microphone is not on.

Speaker 3 (02:33:22):
Just just get if you can hear us, Kenny, just
get out and then just try to hit the link again.

Speaker 10 (02:33:26):
It'll and then back to your back to our last
picture that microphone. Guys, you didn't He ran it through
Google image search and what he came up with is
a Global Navigation Satellite System g n N g n
S S station, also known as a continuous Operating Reforce
Station c o r S. These stations are used for

(02:33:49):
various geodetic and earth search earth science applications.

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
So it's not a listening device.

Speaker 10 (02:33:57):
Well, that's what he that's that's what he.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
I think we're gonna find out. Well, we got to
find out now because you could be right trusting, but
it also might be a giant microphone.

Speaker 11 (02:34:07):
It looks like it's got a wind screen on it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:09):
Yeah, it's what they call a windscreen, and they wouldn't
put that on a on a g a g I
S or a GPS unit.

Speaker 10 (02:34:19):
Right, Yeah, that's that's what that's just I just want
to report that. That's what he said. So who knows.

Speaker 3 (02:34:23):
Yeah, so you could be right, Tristan, but I think
I think a visit is probably in order that. Yeah,
should I say that, I'm not uh with the S word,
I'm not just in case I disappear tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:34:39):
Oh man, well I hope I don't disappear.

Speaker 3 (02:34:45):
Every time somebody says that the end of leaving this planet,
I'm not saying it, but you all know what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 (02:34:54):
Yeah, Team six shows up at your house, we'll we'll
know what happens.

Speaker 10 (02:34:59):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (02:35:00):
Yeah, I think they have. They have people that did.
They always go oh, suicide, suicide.

Speaker 10 (02:35:09):
So Kenn, you want to set us up here?

Speaker 3 (02:35:11):
What what? Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:35:12):
What do you?

Speaker 11 (02:35:12):
What?

Speaker 10 (02:35:12):
Did you?

Speaker 7 (02:35:13):
What did you?

Speaker 19 (02:35:13):
I have four things from you. You got two pictures
and two audio clips. Okay, I just sent an audio
two audio clips. One of them is the how I make.

Speaker 7 (02:35:25):
It starts at fourteen seconds. Is in your notes, yep,
And but it starts at fourteen seconds. You may have
to try to boost that just the hair. I just
went outside and did it across the porch from my wife.

Speaker 10 (02:35:41):
Let's see if we can hear it here.

Speaker 7 (02:35:48):
That's the big fun how or possible how I recorded there?
That's that's the how I got out of canall State
forced that one? That's all right, that's what we sent
to Dave Ellies. You want to play it.

Speaker 10 (02:36:01):
I clicked the wrong one. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (02:36:03):
Hold on, Oh you're fine, You're fine. You can play
that one. We can do it either way you like, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (02:36:08):
One second here I got I do have the other
clip that you sent.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
That.

Speaker 7 (02:36:14):
Look, that'll be the whistle I make And it starts
a fourteen seconds and I do two whistles.

Speaker 3 (02:36:33):
And that's you, Kenny.

Speaker 7 (02:36:35):
Yeah, could you hear that? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:36:38):
I'll play it again here, Well, we could hear you
doing your loon call.

Speaker 7 (02:36:43):
Yeah, that's the whistle. That's the whistle I make.

Speaker 3 (02:36:46):
Nope, I can make that sound too.

Speaker 7 (02:36:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:36:53):
Yeah, all right, So was it a return call after
you made that sound?

Speaker 19 (02:37:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:37:15):
That that other recording I got there for you that
whatever that was, it answered just that's the call I
make and answered that call.

Speaker 3 (02:37:24):
That so it made the exact same sound.

Speaker 7 (02:37:31):
The first the first one, the first one Jeff played.
The first one Jeff played is what that's the that's
what we recorded, the how I got. WI said to David.

Speaker 10 (02:37:42):
Okay, that's what you I'll play I'll play it again here.
Yeah okay, oh I hear it.

Speaker 7 (02:38:02):
Yeah. The other thing that could other be besides a
big fit, it could be a coyote, but I don't
the Coddies usually did that, right. There was Luke three times.
What you heard that was just a single recording and
it was Luke three times. But yeah, cotes usually go

(02:38:23):
off and make a bunch of noise, you.

Speaker 16 (02:38:25):
Know, Kenny, how long was it after you did your
call that you heard that response?

Speaker 7 (02:38:31):
It was with It was within five seconds. The first
response we got we didn't get recorded. It entered my
call three times, and the third time it was too
far away. It's on top of it was going up
the hill, up the mountain, but what we recorded was

(02:38:54):
probably one hundred yards away, about level with us, and
it started up the hill.

Speaker 16 (02:39:04):
That's fascinating.

Speaker 7 (02:39:05):
The first call, the first call we didn't record, was
a lot more aggressive. It sounded more, you know, it
like it discovered us or something that was kind of disgusted.
It was a different sound.

Speaker 5 (02:39:20):
So it was just one animal it wasn't.

Speaker 7 (02:39:22):
Yeah, I think it was just one and my wife
could hear it. I can't hear very well, but my
wife could hear it walking. And this was across the
hollow from us. And I don't think if if it
was Cody's or something, we wouldn't hear walking. This kind
of could hear it walking.

Speaker 3 (02:39:45):
You're interesting back to the big microphone ball that KYU
found the stuff, And my point is they're obviously recording sound,
and they may have an interest in the bigfoot screams
and howls. And I just find it interesting. I mean,

(02:40:07):
to go out in the forest and say, oh, we're
looking for a human talking. I don't know. It just
all seemed lame to me. What's their motivation for putting these.

Speaker 11 (02:40:16):
And why they have three of them so close together.

Speaker 3 (02:40:19):
Yeah, and what you know, what what Kyu mentioned could
just be their you know, excuse, we're trying to preserve
the natural soundscape of the area. Really, it's a freaking forest.

Speaker 5 (02:40:33):
You know what I mean, you should already know what
that is exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
If you don't know what that is by now, then
you're you know, you're not too bright.

Speaker 11 (02:40:40):
And one of those microphones is right close to the
road to the highway.

Speaker 3 (02:40:45):
Yeah, one of them is pretty close.

Speaker 7 (02:40:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:40:49):
Yeah, I don't know. I just find it. I just
kind of get that spidey tingly thinking, hmm, it's interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:41:01):
They would go with game cams if that was the case.

Speaker 3 (02:41:05):
Right, Well, I mean, there's so many amazing sounds that
bigfoots make on the forest, and I can only imagine
when no one's around that, you know, the stuff that's heard.
I mean, Cayu knows that more than anybody. He's recorded
crazy stuff. Play Bumpy Lake if you want to come
on Cayu and he hasn't answered me, It's like, just

(02:41:29):
come on.

Speaker 5 (02:41:30):
And guys, I gotta go. I'll give you all some room.
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (02:41:34):
Oh, thanks Rusty and thanks Roger. We'll talk.

Speaker 5 (02:41:42):
Bye bye.

Speaker 7 (02:41:43):
So yeah, hey, Jim, hey Jeff, I got you. I
got you two pictures of or what picture of an orb?
Been there too? I sent you.

Speaker 10 (02:41:53):
Yeah, let's see here.

Speaker 7 (02:41:58):
The first picture show shows the orb. The second picture
shows where we was sitting when the orbs are on
to the over to the right. Inside that picture, that's
where we were setting. Yeah, the orbs in the tree
right there.

Speaker 3 (02:42:14):
Can you blow that up?

Speaker 7 (02:42:16):
That's where we were that that right there's where we
were setting. And those two trees are on the right
hand okay side of the picture.

Speaker 3 (02:42:22):
Yeah, super interesting when people see stuff like that in
the daytime.

Speaker 7 (02:42:27):
Yep, that's cool.

Speaker 11 (02:42:30):
Yeah. Yeah, we got a couple of stories at the
conference well as well.

Speaker 7 (02:42:36):
So there was Yeah, there was one farther back in
the woods, but we didn't get a picture of it
because the lady and the dog come down. But there
was another one farther back in those woods.

Speaker 4 (02:42:52):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:42:52):
But that that showed up after I made that call
when we sat down, take a break all, always make
that calm. So are you that just appear in that spot?

Speaker 6 (02:43:05):
Kenny?

Speaker 7 (02:43:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:43:07):
Did it?

Speaker 7 (02:43:07):
Move it on? Well? I got the picture and everything
of it. When I turned around when that woman showed up.
When we got to talking to her and looked back,
it was gone, okay. And that other picture, the other
picture I got, it shows that that area is not

(02:43:27):
lit up by the sun that I zoomed in and
got that pick. But if you look at the other picture,
you can see on the right hand side that picture,
those two trees are real small on the right hand side,
but they're not in the sun. The sun's on the
left side, you know. Yeah, you can see they're sitting
back in the shade on that side and the sun's
hitting the left side of the picture. Those two trees

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right there, those two trees on the right is where
that was at setting in those trees, and just a
little farther back in those woods right there was the
the second ord that But it didn't last real long because,
like I said, that woman come by with with her dog,
walking her dog, and we didn't, you know, we after

(02:44:13):
that it was going nice that.

Speaker 3 (02:44:22):
You can see it's definitely an orange glow to it.

Speaker 7 (02:44:27):
Yeah, that's called that's it. That was in New Hampshire's
it was in its a little it's called falls Pond.
It was down on the gorge in New Hampshire. And
the White Mountains is where we was.

Speaker 3 (02:44:38):
Boy, that definitely is some very bigfoot looking country.

Speaker 10 (02:44:42):
Beautiful beautiful country.

Speaker 3 (02:44:45):
Did you watch it? Did you watch it move?

Speaker 7 (02:44:47):
Getty, No, we didn't just see it moved. But another
thing kind of just told me when that that dog,
when that woman walked that dog down there, that dog
was wanting out of there.

Speaker 5 (02:45:00):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:45:01):
And she couldn't control the dog. It was wanting to leave.
So she and we got you talking. But we talked
to her for just a minute, and then when we
got back to looking towards the orbit was going.

Speaker 3 (02:45:12):
Mhm, fascinating, very cool, very cool.

Speaker 7 (02:45:19):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (02:45:24):
I'm just looking here. Yeah, that's you might want to
go up there, Adam, Adam still with us.

Speaker 10 (02:45:33):
I'm still here, Okay, audio only get there is.

Speaker 3 (02:45:36):
Yeah, we might you might want to go up there.
I've got the coordinates and see what it is. But
I I obviously KAYU confirmed it's a recording device. It's
like it's probably just a little sorts of all sorts
of gis recording.

Speaker 11 (02:45:52):
But but for what reason and and why three so
close together?

Speaker 3 (02:45:58):
Well no, you know, I get that, but yeah, why
do they need to do that study? What's the study about?

Speaker 5 (02:46:05):
You know that dog.

Speaker 3 (02:46:06):
They we have no interest in big but none at
all because they don't exist, right. You know what I
find interesting? They always have these little cover stories for
their their their little surveillance work. Anything so flat. What
have you been doing lately?

Speaker 6 (02:46:29):
Nothing? I actually got back from my annual lobster diving
trip two days ago. Oh cool, and I wore these
on the boat, Doug.

Speaker 11 (02:46:41):
And they were a huge hit.

Speaker 6 (02:46:42):
So now I'm gonna have to buy them for everybody.
But that's your fault as well.

Speaker 3 (02:46:48):
Did you buy those up marketplace?

Speaker 7 (02:46:50):
I get?

Speaker 6 (02:46:50):
Yeah, well that one podcast you had, you put those
on right before.

Speaker 10 (02:46:56):
That hat that I bought you so hilarious.

Speaker 6 (02:47:00):
I bought a whole bunch of crap that day. But yeah,
they've worked their great boat shoes.

Speaker 3 (02:47:07):
Can you show us again please?

Speaker 19 (02:47:09):
You bet?

Speaker 7 (02:47:10):
You bet?

Speaker 3 (02:47:10):
Yeah, Okay, hold them still now so we can see. Yeah,
they look like lobsters.

Speaker 16 (02:47:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:47:20):
And you did not really go on a lobster diving trip.

Speaker 4 (02:47:23):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:47:24):
I go down to southern California once a year and
we leave Ventura. You did three days on a boat
the Channel Islands, you know, Catalina Island. Yeah, there's a
bunch of islands out there, and we do around fifteen dives,
a couple of night dives on a boat and we
get rock lobster and you get seven a day, so

(02:47:45):
we're allowed twenty one lobsters. We drive all the way
down from Seattle, so it's twenty to twenty three hour
drive off on a boat.

Speaker 11 (02:47:54):
Is it three diving suba snorkel it's scuba.

Speaker 6 (02:47:59):
Yeah, but there's a couple of guys at free drive
for like a yellow tail and some other fish out there. Nice,
So yeah, it's great, man, but you're always thinking about
those twenty foot white sharks that are swimming around when
you're you're flopping around like an injured seal. Ye ship, Yeah,

(02:48:19):
at night dives especially.

Speaker 3 (02:48:22):
I think I know too much to go on in
the water.

Speaker 6 (02:48:25):
And Scooby, well, it's it's cool. I actually I talked
about this on Dean Show last last time I was on.
But I was out there two years ago and I
asked one of the one of the deckhands, who's actually
the captain now of this boat. It's Peace Dive boat
out of Ventura. I said, hey, you ever see any

(02:48:45):
UFOs out here? And he said no, But because I mean,
you're you're by Catalina where all the tic TACs and
there's all kinds of crap that goes on. He said
he worked on a small fishing boat. The captain told him.
He was on a boat by himself one night, just
moored up in the off the side of I think

(02:49:08):
of Santa Cruz, and like a beach ball size or
circled his boat a few times. That freaked in the
hell out. But that night I'm on I'm on the
boat having a beer with a buddy and we see
a UFO just it looked like a shooting star enough

(02:49:28):
time to go.

Speaker 3 (02:49:29):
Hey, man, check it out.

Speaker 11 (02:49:30):
And he goes, oh, oh wow.

Speaker 6 (02:49:32):
And it was going out of forty five and then
it kind of zipped sideways. But it was about this
fast way miles away. So I don't know if that's
something we have or what, but it was pretty fast.
It just I was looking south towards Catalina, San Diego

(02:49:53):
area from from Santa Cruz Santa Rose Island.

Speaker 3 (02:49:56):
But I'm pretty convinced these things going to the wall
and then come out of the water.

Speaker 6 (02:50:02):
Well, there was a video I think, uh Corbell and
Nap had it on their on their channel. Uh not
long ago where a light went down into the water
and it looks fishy man like a like a drone maybe,
But it was right exactly where I was parked that night.

(02:50:22):
Oh really Yeah, which is bizarre.

Speaker 10 (02:50:24):
So who knows.

Speaker 6 (02:50:26):
Man, it's a hot spot out there. So I'm always
looking when i'm out there, but nothing, nothing crazy this time.

Speaker 7 (02:50:35):
I'm always looking.

Speaker 3 (02:50:36):
Yeah. It's good because I don't think. I don't think
anybody ever wants to see anything crazy. Not really.

Speaker 6 (02:50:43):
Well, it depends on what you mean by crazy, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:50:46):
Just like UFOs. I mean, yeah, once in a while,
if you've got somebody who's never seen anything weird, you
might want to see something. But generally most people want
their lives just to be you know what we expect.

Speaker 16 (02:50:59):
Well, I won't see any of the stuff that I
go looking for, no.

Speaker 3 (02:51:05):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:51:06):
I think about that all the time when I'm out alone.
It's like I want to see something, but nothing too crazy.
When I'm fifteen miles in the bush by myself, that
might ruin, you know, my future experienced going out. I
might not even go out anymore if I did see something,
But but I do.

Speaker 7 (02:51:27):
So it's like a conundrum.

Speaker 10 (02:51:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:51:29):
As long as it's a safe distance for me, I'm
happy with it.

Speaker 6 (02:51:32):
Yeah, exactly, I don't Yeah, good call.

Speaker 3 (02:51:36):
So Kenny has jumped up. Thanks Kenny for joining Kenny.
He is so longer the podcast Virgin.

Speaker 7 (02:51:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:51:44):
Man, it was crazy, it was painless. Yeah, anybody can
come on.

Speaker 6 (02:51:51):
I was at work today, dog, I have another quick story.
I'll feel some time, please. A friend of mine's wife
was working with us today and she was saying she
grew up on a farm not far actually near where
Bob Pyle lives out in Gray Gray River, Gray Harbor.

(02:52:11):
I know, Gray's Harbor County's out there, but southwest Washington.
And of course I go, you got any good Bigfoot stories?
And she goes, I don't believe in Bigfoot. That's not real, okay,
but my dad saw when I was a kid, they
had I think one hundred and sixty five cows, milk cows.

(02:52:36):
And she said he got up early one morning and
he saw light. She was kind of vague, but she
said he saw light and there was this humming just
and I was trying to pin down, like, you know
exactly what she meant by humming. She said, I don't
know When she explained it, she was like, and I

(02:52:59):
first I thought, I go, oh, that's a bigfoot roar,
you know. I was thinking of Dave Ellis's story not
far from there, that big roar here as a kid.

Speaker 3 (02:53:09):
And she goes, no, it was.

Speaker 6 (02:53:10):
She said it was an electrical coming.

Speaker 11 (02:53:13):
And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:53:14):
And then all of a sudden, a big flash boom.
She goes, boom. I said, oh, did a light up
the whole sky? She said, yeah, everything lit up and
that was it. No more sound, no more light, and
all all the cows are up on their feet, which
is really rare at four in the morning or five
in the morning. Usually, she said, some would get up go.

Speaker 7 (02:53:37):
Eat, and half would lay down.

Speaker 6 (02:53:39):
But all of them are up. And on top of that,
there there was a bunch of cows in a big
circle sniffing. They were sniffing like were they weren't licking
or just no, they were like sniffing in a perfect circle.
And I and she didn't know how big yeah, and
I said, was a twenty feet thirty feet? She goes,

(02:54:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:54:02):
Cows were Okay, those back up the cows were sniffing
like snorting or sniffing or I don't know, I don't
know cows. They were smelling, they were taking deep breasts
and they were in a circle.

Speaker 6 (02:54:17):
Right, yeah, And I was trying to gauge how big
the circle was, but she didn't know. But but we
circled back and I had her tell me the story again,
and she said it was just a weird loud humming
and it was an electrical and then just an instant
and a huge flash and that was it. And other

(02:54:41):
farmers in the area, after they had kind of a
get together town meeting, they saw a light. And I
don't know what that means, but I just, yeah, I
love I love asking anyone I meet, hey, you ever
heard heard a bigfoot or seen a UFO? And nine

(02:55:01):
out of ten we'll we'll think I'm absolutely insane. But
there's that one out of ten there like actually, so yeah,
it was.

Speaker 16 (02:55:10):
A sign out too. It's gosh, it's already ten o'clock
in my time, so I got to get up early
in the morning. All right, you all take care of.

Speaker 6 (02:55:19):
Thanks right to see you, Rusty.

Speaker 3 (02:55:22):
Rusty Adam, Yep, you've got a story about that. Remember
the the zip zips electrical sounds? Yeah, tell this story
real quick.

Speaker 11 (02:55:32):
Bell Grove story. Yeah, okay, Yeah, So got up early
in the morning and the outhouse is, you know what,
thirty forty feet from the cabin.

Speaker 3 (02:55:40):
It's too far.

Speaker 11 (02:55:41):
Yeah, it's definitely too far. But so I walked out
to the outhouse, did my thing, came back, and on
the way back, I was hearing this zip zip, zip zip,
And luckily Chris actually caught it, so that's he's got
a recording of it. But I was concerned because I
thought it sounded to me like electrical arcing and that

(02:56:02):
somebody was gonna get electrocuted when they came out and
stepped in the water. That because it had rained that
night from the generator, from the Jenny, Yeah, from the generator.
So I went and turned the generator off, and I'm
like thinking to myself, if the zipping stops, it's got
to be electrical. But it didn't stop. I heard it
after the generator was off. So then I'm like, is
it a bug, is it a critter? Is it a

(02:56:23):
weird frog? I don't know about I don't know. So
I stood on the porch with the generator off and
hoping to get some good audio on it. Uh, and
I just kind of waved into the woods like hey,
I see you and blah blah blah. And the minute
I waved, there was a bigger sound, so the little
Originally it was just zip zip, zip zip, and then

(02:56:47):
it was like and I'm like, wow, Mama Bear told
Baby Bear to stop making the noise because they'd been spotted,
and I thought that was interesting. So yeah, right in
the tree line snell growth.

Speaker 3 (02:57:03):
Fascinating. I don't mean to me hanging there, I had
my mic turned off. Yeah, I mean, there was a
whole bunch of that was a crazy trip that way,
and we and we saw orbs too, everybody but me.
You guys saw a lot of orbs. Do you want
to describe all the orbs? And a weird crab we

(02:57:23):
saw up there.

Speaker 11 (02:57:24):
Well, I didn't get to see the ones across the
lake like you did originally, and Chris and I know
that other people saw him. But when we were sitting
inside the cabin, we just kept seeing these lights fly
by the cabin and to me, they were bright, there
were stop light red and they were about the size

(02:57:47):
of a baseball and they were just zipping around the
cabin and the best feeling I got was when Joey
and I both reacted at the exact same time and
to and we both said did you see that? They
were like, yes, we both.

Speaker 3 (02:58:02):
Saw and I had my back turned to the window.

Speaker 11 (02:58:05):
Yeah yeah. And so it was nice having that visual
pull corroboration. You know that you aren't seeing things, you
know that it was really there. So that was nice.

Speaker 3 (02:58:17):
Welcome Tristan. Are you We haven't talked in a long time.

Speaker 17 (02:58:24):
You know, it's been a while.

Speaker 3 (02:58:26):
So Tristan does research, you know, out West Pacific Northwest,
mainly around bumping bumping lake correct correct or bumping lake.

Speaker 17 (02:58:37):
Yeah, that's one of my main research areas. Unfortunately it's
going through wildfires right now. Oh no, so yeah, I
probably won't be going back there for a bit. But
I was back there in August with Alex Pettacoff, but
unfortunately we didn't really encounter anything.

Speaker 3 (02:58:54):
And you're the one, but I gotta tell everybody you're
the one that started this.

Speaker 7 (02:59:00):
Humming.

Speaker 3 (02:59:01):
It's a phenomena that's now hit us and that we're
in deep study on. Because I interviewed a guy on
Saturday that he heard the show and he came up
to me at the conference. He said, we need to talk,
and I'm like, okay, whatever. He takes me outside and
we're talking and we're gonna have him on and he

(02:59:23):
can imitate it like exact and it was definitely this hummingbird,
weird hum but he said it was going right through
his body, like his whole body was shaking from it.
And it's great because guess what he saw About five
ten minutes later, They saw bush shaking like it was

(02:59:44):
violently shaking this little bush, and they kept watching it.
They watched it for like five minutes, and he'd walk
towards the bush and it would quit shaking. He'd walk back,
and they'd go back to their truck and just kind
of they were sitting on the tailgate and it would
start shaking again. And they kept watching that spot and
guess what walked out where the bush was shaking. Juvenile

(03:00:06):
bigfoot with a beautifully rounded had broad shoulders. He said,
it was really muscular. It wasn't very tall, it was
like maybe three and a half four feet tall, and
it just zipped away. I mean it ran away. They
got to see it run away. And so directly correlated

(03:00:28):
with the humming was the sighting of a bigfoot and
two witnesses.

Speaker 17 (03:00:34):
Yeah, I've never heard that where you somebody hears that
and then you see a sasquat.

Speaker 3 (03:00:39):
Yeah, that's the first time.

Speaker 17 (03:00:40):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:00:41):
Come on, I interviewed him. I did a really I
waited till gold Golden Hour and I took him out
and interviewed him for LMS two and got a great
interview from him. He was really awesome, and he of course,
I come to find out he lives down the road
four miles from me. Oh so he's close.

Speaker 17 (03:01:00):
Yeah, so you think he could take you to to
that spot.

Speaker 3 (03:01:04):
Yeah, of course, but this spot is way up north
Jeff's friends, is that right now? He invited us all
up there.

Speaker 10 (03:01:13):
Jeff, I'm up there, Friday you are, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:01:19):
Yeah, I'm whispering. I might too, want to, I really
want to. But so Tristan recorded this thing he had left,
Uh was like some kind of crackers, peanut butter crackers
making this really loud, like hummingbird wings sound, and I

(03:01:43):
just remember going, that's something that's really weird. And that
then we started doing research. Next thing, you know, we
got witnesses coming forward like crazy, and then we found
that article, or David found it from like one hundred
years ago, where this woman was that a stream washing clothes.

(03:02:04):
She hears what she thinks is a hummingbird quite loud,
and she looks up expected to see a hummingbird, and
instead it was a bigfoot standing there with a juvenile.
So maybe there's something to do with the juvenile because
this guy saw a juvenile.

Speaker 17 (03:02:22):
Yeah, that's it could be. It could be maybe it's
a maybe some kind of defensive mechanism for him or
you know, some kind.

Speaker 10 (03:02:28):
Of Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 3 (03:02:30):
For all I know is it was His interview gave
me chills because the way he he could impersonate the
sounds so well, it was I mean, he made a
great effort to come, you know, to find me up
at the at the conference, and he had no idea.

(03:02:53):
He wouldn't have thought anything of it if it wasn't
for the show that we did. Tristan, that's what's good
about big podcasts.

Speaker 17 (03:03:01):
Well, I'm happy. I'm glad I was able to share that,
and other people have come forward since then because I've
had that I've had that recording for so long. I
didn't know who to take it to or what to
do with it until Davidis.

Speaker 3 (03:03:13):
And do you think there was something weird with it
with that humming in there.

Speaker 17 (03:03:16):
We absolutely but I you know, at the time, I
didn't know if it was a big for or not.
I didn't have any I didn't have any other evidence.
So I'm sure this is something I held on to
for a long time, but I finally shared it, and
I'm glad that, Like you know, I'm glad more people
have come forward. I mean even Flat Rock mentioned the woman.

Speaker 3 (03:03:36):
Here's where it gets really cool, Tristan, when we were
at Snell and Adam can attest to this. Guess what
we recorded up there.

Speaker 10 (03:03:44):
You got.

Speaker 3 (03:03:46):
Matches to the sound, you got exact and we've got
tons of it of at cell growth and within conjunction
with you know, all sorts of other activity, you know,
them banging into the cab, been in all sorts of crap.

Speaker 11 (03:04:01):
I had the juvenile bush shaking up there too.

Speaker 3 (03:04:04):
Oh that's right, tell that story, Adam.

Speaker 11 (03:04:06):
Sure you can going back on camera, holl don you
don't need to.

Speaker 3 (03:04:11):
We don't need to see a near damn lounge chair.
He's like, this is like we've had car casts, we've had,
now we got the lounge chair casts.

Speaker 7 (03:04:22):
We've had, We've had just walk off.

Speaker 3 (03:04:26):
We've had people drive off while they're on the podcast
go ahead at him.

Speaker 11 (03:04:31):
Yeah. So it was the morning that we were heading
out and Budd had woke us up early, and I
went out to the back and Bud was telling me
about all this, the knocks and the activity he had
been hearing that morning, and I walked outside thinking it
was all done. But then the there was a bush
that was out by the outhouse and it was shaking violently,
just like the one you just described. And uh, the

(03:04:54):
only thing I could think of was a juvenile, you know,
because it was low, the bush was maybe s It
was a small pine tree, maybe six feet high, so
something was behind it shaking it and we were having
pine cones chucked at us. And yeah, it was an
interesting morning, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (03:05:11):
So I got.

Speaker 3 (03:05:15):
So we had bush shaking, yep at matches and it
just it was Jane bush. It doesn't sound like a big,
big vote would do it bush. It sounds like a
juvenile that would shake a bush.

Speaker 11 (03:05:27):
Well, it was too small. The tree was too. It
was a pine, small pine tree that was very bush like,
and it seemed to me to be too small to
hide a creature. That was, you know, very tall, because
you know, tips of the pine trees get smaller as
they go up, so it would have had to be
squatting out or on its knees or something. But I

(03:05:47):
definitely I felt juvenile vibes, and especially after the zip
zip thing where that you know, the mama bear told
the juvenile bear to stop doing it, you know, and
I think there was a family up there. And then
the fact that we got the thunder knock later that day, Uh,
that to me is is big Daddy telling us. You know,
you guys are done, get out.

Speaker 3 (03:06:09):
Yeah, you had pine cone thrown at you. You guys
heard the thunder knock that apparently was like insane loud.

Speaker 11 (03:06:16):
Yeah, it was insane loud.

Speaker 3 (03:06:17):
Okay, good, that's I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna play a
clip right now that could explain the thunder knock. Go
ahead and play. Let's see here which one, Jeff it is?
God damn, I've got them on the label. They got
so many clips was recorded?

Speaker 5 (03:06:40):
No, we were.

Speaker 11 (03:06:44):
The boat plane had literally flown overhead, you know, because
it has to do with a multiple paths when it approaches,
So it had flown overhead, tipped its wing and then
it was coming around the land of the lake and
we were just sitting there goofing around. Our luggage was
already packed up and ready on the dock, so we
weren't ready to record anything.

Speaker 6 (03:07:05):
That's a pistport excuse, Adam, you should have an audio running.

Speaker 3 (03:07:09):
That's what I think. It really was a pist excuse.

Speaker 11 (03:07:12):
I know, I'm gonna have a go pro scrap.

Speaker 3 (03:07:18):
Jeff. Can you see that one where I put this
could explain the thunder knock? Dang it, I can't.

Speaker 6 (03:07:25):
Find I'm want to talk. I'm always like, oh I've
had I have ten hours recorded, I'm going to go
to sleep.

Speaker 3 (03:07:31):
And oh I found a clip six Jeff, yep. So
this could possibly explain how they would break something that.
It isn't a knock, it's a break Listen watching this clip.
This is a gorilla doing it, and I watch.

Speaker 7 (03:07:53):
Whit?

Speaker 10 (03:07:53):
Did you hear this?

Speaker 3 (03:08:06):
That's sound like a shotgun going on? You hear that?

Speaker 19 (03:08:11):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (03:08:12):
Play that one part again, just just that towards the middle.
This is a prem that did it sound like that,

(03:08:32):
Adam at all?

Speaker 11 (03:08:34):
I would say that button. Chris would agree with me. No,
I heard something similar to that when I was in
my tepee for thirty days. But the thunder knock was
definitely one distinct, extremely powerful knock, and it was it
just it it was insane. I can't even tell you
how loud it was. Never heard.

Speaker 17 (03:08:56):
It's sound like a shotgun sound kind of like what
that was?

Speaker 3 (03:09:00):
Yeah, that was just boom. Well that's what I just played.

Speaker 11 (03:09:04):
But it was there was no cracking, there was.

Speaker 3 (03:09:07):
No there was no Yeah, but it might have just
snapped it all off in one you know what I mean.
I have your animal.

Speaker 11 (03:09:12):
I think Christ and butter Or they were a little closer,
they might have heard something a little bit ahead of time.
But yeah, for me, it was you know. And then
the fact that I heard another knock from across the
lake answering that knock, it was a very interesting It
was interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:09:29):
Well, I get to witness very close to me a
tree coming down just two weeks ago, and it was insane.
I mean, the cracking and the cracking. There's no wind
and all of a sudden snap and this big giant
tree comes down, a total healthy tree. And I looked

(03:09:52):
at the guy and I go, does that happen often?
He goes, Only when I'm back here by the barn
and I'm like, uh, do you pick foots on your property?
He's like maybe, Well, I mean it's crazy to be
at some place two minutes and how that happened right

(03:10:12):
by you.

Speaker 11 (03:10:13):
Yeah, thirty seconds after I put my camera out at
Flat Rocks in Alabama, we got a tree at twelve
inch thirteen inch they measured it. It was a big
tree and it was snapped off around five six feet high.

Speaker 3 (03:10:29):
Gosh, yeah, what does that? I don't know.

Speaker 17 (03:10:33):
Yeah, I do want to mention when we were bumping.
When we were bumping a couple of months ago, one
of the guys that was with us was playing hyena sounds, okay,
and like a few minutes later, we heard a big
tree fall way out. And this was during the daytime too.
I know trees fall naturally, but there was no wars,

(03:10:53):
so I mean it could have been a natural fall.
But it was just kind of weird that after this
guy was playing these hyena sounds, like he was called
basting though, you just hear this big tree, like in
the distance fall And I even I even got that
recorded the tree fall.

Speaker 11 (03:11:07):
It was a pretty big.

Speaker 17 (03:11:07):
Tree, but we couldn't see it because it was pretty
deep in the woods.

Speaker 10 (03:11:11):
Same thing.

Speaker 11 (03:11:12):
Yeah, you could hear it.

Speaker 17 (03:11:14):
It was crazy.

Speaker 11 (03:11:14):
There was no no wind, just like yours right twenty
feet away. It was it was big. We found the
tree the next day.

Speaker 17 (03:11:22):
Oh cool, yeah cool.

Speaker 18 (03:11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (03:11:25):
That there's you know, between the hums, the shaking and
the and then the thunder knox the tree falls. I mean,
it's all pretty pretty standard activity.

Speaker 3 (03:11:36):
I guess it's all coincidence. Yeah, of course, it's just coincidence.

Speaker 7 (03:11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:11:43):
What what other stuff have you seen or hurt lately
since I've talked to you, it's been about I've been
talked to you in like two years.

Speaker 17 (03:11:51):
Tristan me, Well, that's the thing, Like it's been kind
of quiet in the areas I've been researching for the
past couple of years. But uh, I did go to
a trout lake which is up by meult Adams a
few months, like a month or so before them with
the bumping lake again, and uh, I don't know what
it is, but I got something. It sounds by petal,

(03:12:11):
but I got something running up to one of my
taskcams by by pedal le eat during the night and
it sounds like it's something on two legs and it
comes up to the record of the TASKAM, and I
think it scratches it, like it puts its nails on it.
And you can hear something scratching the TASKAM for like
a couple of seconds, and then it just stops. And
the weird thing about is we actually had some food,

(03:12:34):
like food like apples and bananas lipped out like nearby,
and none of none of that was touched by anything.
So I thought that was odd. Like I thought, I
thought even deer or elk would have eaten the food,
but it wasn't even touched.

Speaker 3 (03:12:47):
Yeah, they'll do that. They'll come up and take their
fingernail and rub the microphone.

Speaker 11 (03:12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (03:12:53):
Yeah, that's where it sounds.

Speaker 3 (03:12:54):
A lot of ye. And then and there once again
the reason you know it's not a road and because
he just her rocket. You just turn a wood knock,
you just turn to scream, and then you hear the
scratching on the microphone. Right, yeah, it's all related. It's
just boom, boom, boom, all this happens.

Speaker 17 (03:13:11):
Hey, then you hear a bonk like I think even
banks the recorder too like this.

Speaker 3 (03:13:16):
Yeah, I think what they're doing is throwing either they're
flicking it with their finger or they're throwing a little
stone at it.

Speaker 10 (03:13:23):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:13:24):
But yeah, I was followed by a bonk. You're absolutely right,
it's so hey, Yeah I was.

Speaker 6 (03:13:32):
I was camping actually by above Trout Lake Forest Road
twenty three that goes to Randall between there, yep, And
I was mushroom hunting because it was it was still spring.

Speaker 7 (03:13:45):
I want to say it was.

Speaker 6 (03:13:48):
June, early June. But anyways, I found some wild structures
back there. It's it's it's a trippy spot. But on
one of the things I saw was some small saplings,
not saplings, there were like five foot dug fur bent
over about a foot off the ground, all about a

(03:14:11):
foot and they're all bent into like a bed. Has
anyone seen something like that?

Speaker 3 (03:14:18):
Or is that bear?

Speaker 6 (03:14:19):
Would a bear do.

Speaker 3 (03:14:20):
That bear would? But they're all like into each other,
like into.

Speaker 6 (03:14:25):
Each other, maybe six of them in a eight foot radius,
but they're all bent perfectly a foot off the ground into.

Speaker 7 (03:14:34):
Like a bed.

Speaker 11 (03:14:36):
I like that someday.

Speaker 3 (03:14:38):
Yeah, I mean to me, it sounds like one of
these juvenile holding areas.

Speaker 6 (03:14:43):
Yeah, there was some weird xes around there. I've got
some pictures, Doug, if you want me to send them.

Speaker 3 (03:14:49):
To you, I think they stashed their juvenile Yeah, I
love to see them. I think they Okay, yeah, it's
a possibility they stashed their juveniles there.

Speaker 6 (03:14:58):
And of course it's a weird UFO spot too. Man,
that's by SETI ranch up there, kind of sauce cool
stuff in the sky.

Speaker 10 (03:15:08):
The ranches are too far from from there, minci as.

Speaker 11 (03:15:13):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (03:15:15):
Woven?

Speaker 6 (03:15:16):
It wasn't woven, just snapped over, but but they were.
They were placed so they weren't actually hitting the ground.
They were kind of floating. So I don't know if
anything of substantial weight would have, you know, crushed it down,
so that that kind was kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (03:15:35):
Would it be a herd of deer bedding anyway?

Speaker 6 (03:15:38):
No, No, there's no way a deer would have broke
those trees. They were good inch thick maybe.

Speaker 3 (03:15:44):
How yeah, no, deer aren't going to do that. How
many trees were broken like that? Four?

Speaker 7 (03:15:52):
Five, six?

Speaker 6 (03:15:53):
Okay, probably round five. It was enough to make me go, oh,
that's weird. If if there was only three or four
kind of broken, I wouldn't have paid any attention. But
they're all kind of in an oval. So it was
about the size that could hold you know, a juvenile
would have been perfect, And that's kind of what I
was thinking.

Speaker 3 (03:16:14):
Would it have made it Would it have made a
good crib or a stash for a real young juvenile,
like a newborn type.

Speaker 7 (03:16:22):
I think so yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:16:23):
It would have kept in place and and camouflaged them.

Speaker 6 (03:16:28):
So I I just jumped off the road just to
look for some Morrell mushrooms that look like a good spot.
I was one hundred feet in, so it was quite
a ways off the road, but not too far. Just
a random spot. And across the street I found some
weird some weird large x's that looked interesting.

Speaker 7 (03:16:51):
So I took some photos of that too.

Speaker 3 (03:16:54):
Coincidence, that's all coincidence. That's all cool coincidence.

Speaker 11 (03:17:00):
It's Christian for admitting that he doesn't find something every
time out, because you know, we do this so often.
Sometimes we come back with nothing.

Speaker 7 (03:17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (03:17:11):
No, And that's why I told people, it's not like
what you see on TV. You don't always find it.
You know, ninety percent of the time you really don't
find or hear anything. In my opinion, it's not like
what you see on TV on these other shows. So
it bothers me when I see that because it's like
it doesn't make these people experts or anything, you know,
It's like they're not doing anything different than what we're doing.

(03:17:34):
We don't really find any We don't find I don't
find something all the time I go out there. It's
just like everybody else is experiencing. Like maybe once in
a while you hear something or see something interesting, but
it's Christian.

Speaker 6 (03:17:47):
Do you still do any stuff near Greenwater up up
the White River there?

Speaker 17 (03:17:54):
I haven't not lately.

Speaker 11 (03:17:55):
No, No, I haven't.

Speaker 17 (03:17:57):
Okay, I know those still can't. El's going on up
and there with bar Barbousto doing campouts up there. I
might go back. I mean, it's been a while since
I've been up in there. I had a really crazy
like it was a banchee scream. I'm one of the
campouts like a while ago, when I was up in

(03:18:19):
there and it was this was during the daytime. It
was like it was like a really loud female banchee scream,
and I was actually looking for footprints and all of
a sudden, this damn scream comes out of the woods
like ahead of me, and I didn't get it. I
didn't get it on camera or anything because I wasn't
recording at the time, but it was. That was one
of the craziest screams I've ever heard, and it only

(03:18:40):
happened once, but it was like a bane scream.

Speaker 3 (03:18:42):
It was.

Speaker 10 (03:18:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (03:18:49):
So yeah, I would like to go back up in there. Yeah,
maybe next spring.

Speaker 3 (03:18:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:18:54):
Last time I was on the show, I mentioned I
was I was dinking around and Forrest Forrest Land. I
got caught by the security guard and I told him
I was looking for Prince and then he lit up
and it was like, oh really, And I got about
forty five minutes of good stories from that guy, and

(03:19:16):
he told me of yeah, he hears just these lonesome
yells up there. He said they were lonesome cries, which
was kind of an interesting term. Yeah, and a whole
bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 11 (03:19:31):
But yeah, I wish I got that Banci scream. That
would have been great.

Speaker 17 (03:19:37):
Yeah, man, But it was crazy when he was so loud.
Was it was because you don't expect that. He just
happens all of a sudden and that was it, though,
like one scream, that was it.

Speaker 3 (03:19:49):
I wish I was.

Speaker 17 (03:19:49):
Recording, but I just wasn't.

Speaker 11 (03:19:51):
I was just looking for so the second time. I
promised myself I'd record twenty four to seven, but my
batteries would die and you have to swap out cards
and and then you know, you just get invited to
eat lunch or dinner and you forget to start the
recorder again. It's it's not like the TV shows where

(03:20:11):
you've got paid camera crews walking around with you know,
cameras to try to catch them.

Speaker 6 (03:20:17):
Look a backup, Tristan, What do you do for batteries?
Do you just get like a big deault and plug
it into that or something?

Speaker 3 (03:20:26):
Uh?

Speaker 17 (03:20:27):
Well, actually I do have I do have like one
of those battery packs. I need to put that on
my task can. But I've just been using those I
think double A batteries, those big.

Speaker 11 (03:20:37):
Double A batteries.

Speaker 17 (03:20:38):
I've been using those, but not on a task can. Yeah,
that's the thing. On a regular task can, like they'll
run for like eight hours or maybe of the ten,
but I need to put the battery pack on it
so it will uh last longer than that.

Speaker 11 (03:20:52):
Yeah, the banks, I've been using the power banks on
my task ams and other recorders and the zoom recorders
as well. They all up to USB power, those those
large battery banks will last for days.

Speaker 7 (03:21:06):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (03:21:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in construction. I have a s ton
of de Walult batteries, the Big five am, so I've
got an adapter to that, and there's pluid in there,
and yeah, a couple of days at least.

Speaker 11 (03:21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (03:21:20):
Yeah, I'd like to use an LTR, some some kind
of LTR and just leave it out there for a while.
But I just used my task. And you know, if
I go on a camp out, I mean that's really
when I use it. I don't really leave it out
there because I'm afraid somebody's gonna take it.

Speaker 11 (03:21:33):
So anyone who's listening, ditch the double a's start switching
out three banks.

Speaker 6 (03:21:40):
Well, the problem, Adam is is when you're hiking, man,
you want to go as late as you can. So
I'll just spring twenty double a's, but then that adds up.
But yeah, yeah, I just get then I get lazy,
and I'm like, oh, it's not it's going to happen,
and then that's what happens every time.

Speaker 3 (03:21:59):
Okay, guys, we are at the three twenty mark. We
got to say goodbye, but just hang on. We're gonna
we're gonna just do some quick wisdom. We'll be right
back and stand by.

Speaker 10 (03:22:09):
It'd be right back.

Speaker 9 (03:22:12):
It's now time for Untold Radio Am Wisdom of the week.
Wonder is the first step of knowledge, but it only
grows when you share it and remember the quietest steps
often leave the deepest tracks in the forest, in memory
and in the hearts of others.

Speaker 7 (03:22:31):
Good night. We hope to see you all next week.

Speaker 9 (03:22:33):
If you like the show tonight, please consider giving us
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subscribing and hitting the bell so you will be notified
when a new episode is dropping. Also, please share this episode.
Now back to Doug and Jeff for our wrap.

Speaker 10 (03:22:53):
Good wisdom, and we are back.

Speaker 3 (03:22:57):
So thank you guys, Thanks true to I wish we
could have got you on earlier. Thanks Flat, Thanks Adam,
Thanks Jeff, Yeah, Kenny and Carl and Roger and yeah

(03:23:17):
it makes we do this once in a while. It's
kind of fun to do and just kind of this
open Yeah, I know, all right, but we'll be back
next week with more crazy, fresh mysteries, untold stories that
you won't hear anywhere else. And the truth is always uh,
it's out there, man. We just need to communicate more. So,

(03:23:39):
good night, everybody, stay curious, and we will see you
all next week. Good night, Tristan, good night.

Speaker 14 (03:23:47):
I call you up in the middle of the night
and bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

Speaker 3 (03:23:57):
You give me comforts, say.

Speaker 14 (03:23:59):
Just give me because I'm tired body the end of
our talk and feeling just fine.

Speaker 3 (03:24:05):
You and I will always know. Will we be long?
This sing no ordinary?

Speaker 16 (03:24:15):
We can't go in all.

Speaker 14 (03:24:21):
I pick you up in the fifteen hour, Pard, we
head on down the roads till.

Speaker 4 (03:24:26):
We care for just being in the sun and b wind.

Speaker 11 (03:24:32):
If the relacious took call able.

Speaker 14 (03:24:34):
Head on over a care everybody has can see.

Speaker 3 (03:24:39):
Will we be long in no ordinary love? We can't
go in all.

Speaker 2 (03:24:50):
At the end of the.

Speaker 14 (03:24:52):
World together forever it's roll and our way, if ever
you should be.

Speaker 18 (03:24:58):
In town in our They never compose a part in.

Speaker 11 (03:25:03):
All way.

Speaker 2 (03:25:06):
All the time.

Speaker 14 (03:25:07):
I would be together every day, but pos it never
would be lefs straight a.

Speaker 2 (03:25:15):
Comprom all way back home.

Speaker 4 (03:25:18):
To shoot up again.

Speaker 14 (03:25:37):
At the end of the world together forever, small allway,
if ever.

Speaker 16 (03:25:44):
You should be in town a comprate.

Speaker 3 (03:25:47):
They never composed a part in.

Speaker 2 (03:25:50):
Norway at the end.

Speaker 3 (03:25:54):
Of the world together forever is fond in always, if.

Speaker 11 (03:25:59):
Never we should be in down in hollways.

Speaker 2 (03:26:03):
They never prose a part in all ways.

Speaker 14 (03:26:08):
At the time have we be together. We never retained
in hondo. They never would be left straight and a
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