Untold Radio AM #271 Government Knowledge About Bigfoot with David Dominique

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tonight's guest is David special.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Agent, looking back on life. That you leave him the
resting home in the crowd, stick around through the crate
with feeding for the fire. You'll be dancing around on
hearing sound from the treating.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
And no one cares where.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
He's coming from.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
My ears are still ringing feeding.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I guess we are moved from the start the days cos.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
You're one of these days will.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Be the world.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Looking for answers.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Go it sast.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Das my cono.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Leading the fuse of the ashes.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
The spirits that afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I looking down the ash.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Were life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio
Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co
host Jeff Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am is going live
right now.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.
Now Here are your Untold Radio Am hosts Doug Hicheck
and Jeff Corella Jr.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Hello everyone, Hey, Hey, Jeff, Hey everybody and Vera Acts
and Lee were owned Roger and who else we've got
Kenny yet? Miss Mary is all sorts.

Speaker 8 (02:35):
Of people, Roger, Kenny, Yeah, a lot of our friends.
Good to see I appreciate it a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right on, see who else I'm looking her Tennessees and
a lot of our moderators in might need them tonight.
I never know anyhow, So it's welcome to show number
two seventy one. Yep, on this beautiful chili Sunday night.

(03:08):
I hear we have a big snowstorm heading our way.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
Yep, we do. I'll go and welcome to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, looking forward to that. So tonight we have an
amazing guest, David Dominie. Yeah, we're going to kind of
hone in on what the government knows, what these things
might be.

Speaker 8 (03:28):
It'll get good stories. I talked to him a little
bit today. He's got some great stories to share.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, so that'll be our main theme. Yeah, he's a
retired senior agent, and he may be able to answer
some questions. I think so. And then we've got other
favorite things to do. We've got other segments. We've got
weird marketplace picks, I got clips. So grab your robe, right,

(03:54):
you should grab a robe. Nice one. I just I
think that's just nice. I don't wear robes anywhere, but
he used to. I always had to wear a robe
and get up in the morning, have a robe on.
I don't do that. Nice, No, I just jump into
my jeans. Yeah, so why is that? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
I have I have. I have flannel pants on. They're
really comfortable.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I'm great. I saw a guy at the casino one
time and that's all he had on was a robe.
Oh nice, that's it. So I think that was what
I think that was the beginning of my robe days
were over right there. I don't want to be that
guy anyhow.

Speaker 8 (04:34):
So don't don't go to the casino with the robe.
I'll make a note of that.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Turn your lights down a little bit, get comfy. We've
got a long show. Would be a good show, and uh,
let's go it and just just roll into unless you
got something you want to talk about. I cut the
tip of my finger off. Oh how did you do
that yesterday? Oh? Just put your in a box the

(04:59):
sharp knife and I just slipped and then you know,
it's just a tip. You know, it's not a big deal,
but it's painful when he gets into it in your nail.
When you cut the nail off too, it's like, yeah,
that's not fun. Yeah, now you know why the now
I know why the mob goes after your fingers. Yeah,

(05:20):
if you don't pay your bill. Right anyhow, let's just
get into the news.

Speaker 8 (05:26):
Weird and fast news, weird and fast and weird, fast
and weird.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
H it's time for weird and fast news.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's a good bumper. I like that one. It might
not be so weird, it may not be so fast,
but we're gonna try sure. All right, first one up,
as apparently they have built a robot crabs, right so
in the Southern and Southern Portugal. Researchers from the Center

(06:06):
of Research and Animal Behavior. Think about this. It stands
for crab. How fun behavior. I'll do it. How clever
at the University of x Exeter deployed a bluetooth controlled
three D printed robot crab and they called them wavy Davy.

(06:28):
There's wavy davy on the right there, or at least
what I think wavy davy.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
What approximation?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Anyhow to study how real male fiddler crabs adjust their
courtship signaling when faced with a rival. Okay, well what
a girl, What a great way to do it. I'm
gonna yeah, never mind the robot. A robot could wave
two differently sized claws near a males burrow right in

(07:02):
the mudflaps. The result showed that the real males increased
duration of waving when the robot waved, but did not
wave faster. They couldn't get the damn crab to wave faster.
That's really useful information, isn't it, Jeff? I guess I

(07:23):
think it is suggesting that they modulate how long they
signal depending on the level of competition, rather than simply
waving more rapidly. Interestingly enough, some real grabs even attacked
Wavy Dave and broke its three D printed claw right,

(07:46):
So there you go. That's a valuable I'm sorry, that's
just like really useful information.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
We can want to bring that to work. I'm going
to bring that to work Monday. Everyone's gonna love it.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Wavy Dave.

Speaker 8 (07:56):
Interesting, that is interesting, it is, But what.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Do you do with that? Could you imagine doing a
proposal for a grant for this? Somebody got paid to
do that. I want to see how fast crabs a wave.
It's like, now they know accomplished. Yeah, and then we
have they've been studying underwater calls of the Hawaiian monk seals. Now,

(08:25):
I always like monk seals because at one point we
used to have seals around Florida. Oh they were monk seals.
They were these tropical seals and they're kind of small.
But anyhow, I think they're smaller than regular like seals
that you would have on the West Coast or sure
up in the article or wherever. But anyhow, I just

(08:48):
had to throw that in. That's not the news thing.
That was fake. That was just Doug's news. Yeah. But
by the way, people are claiming they're still seeing monk
seals occasionally in Florida.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
That interesting. I didn't know that they were there at all.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I don't know it, says Okay. Critically endangered Hawaiian monk
seals turned out to be far more vocal underwater than
scientists that had assumed. In a study by the University
of Hawaii and Manoa Marine Mammal Research Program. Please tell
me that doesn't spell seal? Think does passes? Spells exactly.

(09:32):
Passive acoustical recorders were deployed across five sites in the
Hawaiian Archipela, from Molokai to the remote northern Western Islands,
and over four thousand, five hundred hours of audio data
were analyzed. The team identified twenty five distinct underwater call types.

(09:55):
So now we know monk seals make twenty five distinct
underwater calls. And that's that, not twenty six, only twenty five.
Ex Yes, exactly, Okay. The team identifte twenty five distinct
underwater call types, ay jump from the only six they

(10:15):
previously knew about from capturing funk seals. Even more intriguingly,
the seals can combine different calls into sequences combination calls,
a kind of acousticals syntax not previously documented in seal species.

(10:36):
They also discussed also another discovery, Jeff also discovered a
specific call called the wine associated with foraging, suggesting these
seals use sound not only for social or mating purposes,
but also in hunting. Interesting it's important for conservation because

(11:01):
much of their habitat overlaps with human generated low frequency
noise caused by ships and boats, so understanding their acoustical
behavior helps assess how noise may affect them. Much better
than weavy Dave. Yeah, much more important than wavy Dave.

(11:22):
All right, Next, I'm trying to speed this up. Mushrooms
is living computers. Now, we've all heard about mushrooms in
their neural network. Right. So, a team of Ohio State
University has demonstrated that edible fung guys such as I
love this name, Chatake mushrooms can be grown into organic

(11:45):
Now listen to his word. I've never heard this word,
but it makes sense. Memoristers, not a resistor, but a memorister,
interesting electronic components that remember past electrical states. Hold on
for my weird and fast news. I'm gonna have some ripper.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
Oh the weird and fast pause.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
And by the way, everybody out there in podcast line,
do not drink ripper while you're on the air. Do
not do what I do, because you will burp.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
You know, a weird and fast purp.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You'll have a weird and fast purp. You need to
have your your finger on the burpt button. And there's one.
Let's see. Well I lost my place, damn it. Okay,
the Mycetelia network, a fun guy was cultivated, dehydrated, and
then wired into circuits. I just couldn't imagine doing that.

(12:40):
These fungal devices achieved memory switching up to listen to
this five and fifty hertz with a ninety percent accuracy
and early tests. So there you go. Your next iPhone
may be made out of a damn mushroom. That's crazy.
It's crazy. I mean, it's so cool. Now I can

(13:02):
see this kind of research. The advantage. They're biodegradable, so
that way we can get a new iPhone every week
and throw them in the garbage in the recycling bin.
There'll just be it will just be mushroom made of mushrooms. Yeah,
that is crazy. It says they're bidegradable, they use low power,
they don't require any rare earth metals, and potentially mimic

(13:25):
brain like computing architectures. So it says they're not ready
to replace silicon chips yet because of speed and scale.
But it's still limited. But this research opens the door
to living computers and ultra sustainable electronics. You gotta say, ah, oh,

(13:50):
that crap. Let's move on here. Ah And she's moving on.
What a weird world were living in. And then a
giant airship was spotted over the San Francisco Bay as
Pathfinder one was launched and spotted over the bay. Now,
this thing's amazing because it's taking this blimp of course

(14:13):
technology to a new level. Let me just start up
by saying this thing is roughly four hundred feet long.
So it's the biggest aircraft ever launched. I think it
exceeds the Blue Goose. Did I said the blue Goose didn't. Yeah,
I've heard the Spruce goose.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
That that's big. It's and it's a rigid frame. Apparently
that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That was Howard Uh not Stern Howard Howard Hughes how
built anyhow So, it says the startup l TA Research
and Exploration, backed by UH Sergey Brinn, has revived the
rigid airship concept, whether it's prototype Pathfinder roughly four hundred

(15:02):
feet or one hundred and twenty four meters long, constructed
with a framework of thousands of carbon Oh god, here
we go with carbon fiber again. No carbon fiber titanium tubes.
I would not get in a carbon fiber vehicle, no way.
I know how quick it breaks. Carbon fiber titanium tubes

(15:23):
powered by twelve electric motors using helium for liftoff. Could
you imagine the amount of helium? Wow, think of a lot.
I it's safe, but I keep hearing how we're running
out a helium. I keep hearing about it. That's what
I hear in the ground because he mined from the

(15:43):
ground a lot of it. Yeah, and that's like getting depleted.
So I don't know whatever you get from the air.
I think, unlike traditional blimps, which relies solely on gas pressure,
pathfinder one is a rigid hull in a li by
wire control.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'd like to drive it. Recently flew over the San
Francisco Bay Golden Gate Bridge region during its test phase.
I don't think that's a good thing to fly over
the bridge operating with special airworthiness certificate issued by the
Federal Aviation Administration. The aim was to create a large scale,

(16:24):
low emission cargo transport, so they're trying to use this,
I think as a cargo thing. I don't know. I mean,
isn't the size just to float that little thing at
the bottom a little uh.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
God, no, I guess I don't know how that would
be efficient.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I mean, because you can't well, maybe you can
put stuff in with the helium. I suppose you could.
You sound like Mickey Mouse while you're loading and unloading though.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
Yeah, right, yeah. They used to actually have healing in
the air and submarines because it doesn't compress as much.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh yeah, I know, I remember used to watch those
Jock hous Stowe. They talk like, yeah, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
Interesting, So apparently it is here. Well, the upside is
it's something really big that you can land. You don't
need a you don't need an airstrip to land anywhere.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It says that the game is create to create a
large scale, low mission cargo transport vehicle that does not
rely on runways or use heavy jet fuel. Yeah, the
revival of lighter than air tech may signal a shift
in aviation tech. You might want to riff on your show.
Oh good, Okay, that's what we're doing. We're riffing and

(17:39):
ripping it. We're riffing and.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Ripping perfect weird and fast riff.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, anyhow, I don't I'm supposed to read that. Probably
not that last line. Okay, next one is a death
pall Ramo stone here, I think, yeah, that's the last one. Okay,
Number five deathball Sponge is a new deep sea discovery.
This does not look like a fun thing to grab

(18:07):
onto in the remote depths of South Sandwich Trench. Now,
I have no idea where that is, the Southern Ocean region.
The research expedition led by NIP the Nippin foundation. I
take it that's a Japanese thing. I don't want to

(18:29):
read all this crap. Oh my god. Uncovered at least
thirty previously unknown species, one of which is a seviical
hook covered carnivorous sponge named the death Ball. Founded depths
around three thousand, six hundred and one meters. So why

(18:52):
did they put the one on if it's only just
a boat.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
You're not even paying attention of my weird fast news,
you know, just agree with me. East of Montague Island.
The sponge that's.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
The very very self pacific. I think that's in the
Antarctic Ocean, right in the.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Very Oh that's cold. But I think it was a Japanese.
I think it was a Japanese.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Anyhow, it says it uses his ball, uses the usual
filter feeding strategy of other sponges and instead uses hooked
appendages to trap small crustaceans.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
That's an unpleasant way to go.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's where i'd be worse and stepping on legos.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
Yeah, that would be unpleasant. That wouldn't be good.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
All right now, I'm thinking they're probably about six inches,
probably pretty small. Yeah, I just guess that looks like
six inches to me. The rover recently captu an image
of a boulder that doesn't fit the known geology of

(20:05):
its surroundings. So what's this guy doing in the neighborhood?
Its color, texture, and isolated placement differs sharply from the
adjacent rock, So how did he get there? Scientists are
now considering whether it was transported from elsewhere on Mars,

(20:25):
or even by a meteorite impact, challenging existing assumptions about
rock distribution and ancient water activity in the crater. So
there you go. That's cool. See that was really weird
and really fast.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Some weird and fast news man.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That was weird and fast. So let's just keep the
weird going and just get into our weird fact of
the week.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Weird fact of the week. Here we go, I can get.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
That is kind of weird. Oh crap, I don't have
any information on the fact. I have the picture, but
the fact, Okay, I forgot the fact.

Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay, I know I know what it is, sort of,
But they discovered this planet that's basically one big diamond.
Oh yeah, German. But I can't tell you where it
is because I don't remember, but it's up. It's a
long ways away. But this Hubble telescope has figured out
that this thing is made of it's basically a solid diamond,

(21:37):
a planet hard as a rock.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
Really big diamond. There's actually a kind of a fringe
theory that the center of Jupiter is a big diamond.
The pressure from all that, you know, just carbone squeezed
down by pressure. And there's been a theory that the
center of Jupiter could be like carbon hardened into a giant.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Trillian carrot diamond. Who knows. And I'm sure that's exactly
what the planet looks like.

Speaker 8 (22:07):
That's a photograph. I'm pretty sure it is a photograph exactly,
including the people, the people walking down.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
The people walking in that other rock down there, actual
scale photograph. It's a skill. Fuck yeah, for sure. Absolutely,
that's exact science. It's science, real science. So the weird fact,
So that was the weird untold. It was untold, yes,
because we're not going to tell anything about it. It's
not going to tell you anything about it. I'm told

(22:36):
it's completely I'm told, Oh my god, told, it's a
bitch getting old job.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
Top score, it's a top score, good job. Yeah, it's
an untold story. Perfect it is told. You didn't tell.
You didn't tell it.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
You didn't tell it? Just a picture. All right, let's
get into some I've I've managed to do some clip. Picky,
we're getting under our clips.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
Okay, all right? What I had a twitch in my finger,
but I didn't tell about it. It's untold. I had

(23:26):
an untold twitch.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Did did that bumper even finish? I don't think it did.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
It might not have.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Don't know. I think you twitched it and I.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Think my finger was just I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay, anyhow, clip one? Sound is good? Oh man, sound
is good. I haven't even introduced the clip and.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
It hurts.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Jesus, get me you please, got on.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
It's not a hot dog anymore. Now, it's a cold dog.
Get it.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Did that need an introduction?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I wanted to introduce it.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
Okay, introduce it.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's too late now. Anyhow? That was a cold dog. Yeah,
you're just going You're just are You're getting twitchy? I
think I am. Did you drink too much?

Speaker 8 (24:19):
I think I'm a little overtired?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Did you do I think you drink too much coffee.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
Again, I didn't drink enough, I think is the problem.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Clip two. Try not to twitch on this one. All right,
sound is good. This is the fastest drone in the
world period. Let's watch it. Okay, that right?

Speaker 10 (24:41):
There is a twenty two horsepower water cooled beast of
the drone. Last year, my dad and I broke the
Guinness Cold record for the fastest drone quad Copta in power. However,
since then our record has been snatched away from us
by a Swiss engineer named Sammy, So naturally we want
to try and get our record back. We set up
our prototype drone, which got us up to four hundred

(25:03):
and twenty kilometers an hour or two hundred and sixty
one miles an hour. Next, we wanted to find out
if we could three D print the entire frame instead
of using the traditional carbon fiber frame. After the drone
caught on fire multiple times, we finally got it working
and got it up to speed of five hundred and
twenty kilometers an hour or three hundred and twenty three
miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Crazy time for it to catch.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
On fire again, so we implemented a water cooling system,
tested the scale model outside a window and also did
some CFD using airshaper to reduce drag. Finally it was
time to fly, and we managed to reach a new
world record of five hundred and eighty five kilometers an
hour or three hundred and sixty three miles per hour.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
That's extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
That's that's quick. Yeah, that's good. As quick as our
weird and fast news, even quicker, even quicker. All right,
sound as good? On the next one, clip three? Did
you I didn't know this about Terry's facing east? Did
you I did not see the cis this is really interesting?

(26:05):
Couldn't watch? This is fun little bible fact. A lot
of people don't know this.

Speaker 11 (26:11):
If you go to any cemetery in the United States
and you pull out your little compass. I love doing this.
Pull out your little compass. Every every gravestone in the
United States. It's like industry standard for cemeteries. They all
face east. The headstones, all every single one. I know
people have never heard this and like, there's no way

(26:32):
that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 11 (26:33):
Drive to the closest cemetery, pull up your compass, and
you will see every single headstone in the entire cemetery
faces east. Because Christian people that founded our nation were like,
We're gonna bury all of the dead facing the Mount
of Olives because we want them to be ready to
come out of their grave and.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
See Jesus as he cracks the sky. Amazing, Wow, amazing. Sway, dude,
that's good.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
Yeah the idea.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I didn't know that either, see only an untold I
made up for my diamond planet. All right, the clip
for Yeah, Halloween's long over. But I had to pick
a good Halloween costume that I meant to do last
week or the week before, and I didn't do it.
So now I picked my favorite Halloween costume of the year. Ready,

(27:25):
So here it is, missing cat, there is on it.
All right, that's pretty clever. People. People get pretty greative

(27:50):
on Halloween. Clip five. Sound is good. This is kind
of creepy. These are really lightweight robots, and I go
ahead and play.

Speaker 12 (28:03):
It, sending these shape shifting wheels for savellants someday. They
used tense secrety to expand and collapse to locomot on
uneven terrains and jump onto obstacles three hundred millimeters high.
Researchers at Colorado State University developed this lightweight and compact robot. However,
it remains in the experimental stage.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That's really cool. Now here's what's weird. In the seventies,
not the eighties or the nineties. And the seventies, I
had dream after dream, like four nights in a row
about those things. Wow, And they were exactly the little wheels.
They were all just kind of made of these little
and there were robots. And I had dreams numerous nates

(28:43):
in the row and yet seen anything like that. It's
just kind of weird. So when I see a clip
like that, I go, WHOA, is that aver familiar? Because
those dreams are so vivid. I can come to this day.
I mean, how many years ago was that? Oh my god,
long time? Yeah, all right, Uh, this one is kind

(29:05):
of weird too. The sound is good. It's a new
type of wheelchair prototype, which the wheelchair hasn't changed in
a lot of years. So go ahead. Now, I could
use one of these on my podcast, Jeff, it's a

(29:32):
walking chair. That's really cool. That would be kind of cool.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
Yeah, some interesting terrain.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Could you imagine some another thing that goes up the stairway? No,
thank you god, i'd be scary, all right. Clip seven, Uh,
The sound is good. This is remember that big hurricane
we had here, Hurricane Melissa, right that did so much damage,
and Haiti and all those places, all those islands. But

(29:59):
look at this thing from the sky. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
I wouldn't play that.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Wow, that is just right there, man, nature at its finest.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That really is.

Speaker 8 (30:15):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, it looks like snow, like a snow tunnel. Next
do we have clip eight? Sound as good? This is
like more evidence that Mars had an ancient past. And
I don't know what some people I'd like to see
in the comments here? Do you guys think that Mars
was inhabited at one time? Just everybody in chat and

(30:38):
be really cool. I'm curious. It's kind of a yes
or no it wasn't. Go ahead, play it. Look this
thing that looks so man made. Do you like the
music we've added?

Speaker 8 (30:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I do regularly. That's really Oh what do you think?
Do you think Mars was inhabited? Me?

Speaker 8 (31:07):
I mean, anything's possible, but it's.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Just well, okay, then how did that get formed from?
Just natural?

Speaker 8 (31:13):
Could be I mean it could be a natural crystal
formation of something, or who knows. It's definitely odd.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, we're gonna be asking David about stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
Okay, he might have a good answer.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, let's see her clip nine. That sound is good.
So this is weird because there is a guy just
fill in this. He sees his one signpost vibrating and
he cannot figure out what's going on. Go ahead and
play it.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
I walked past his poe earlier.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Damn, Rate.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Still vibrating. I don't know what's making it elaborate.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's such a that's something i'd noticed rate.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
That's yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
Crazy like it.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm not touching it, that'sir. I would have I would
have tried to stop.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Oh, I would have to. I would have thought the
wind until I saw that there wasn't anything on top.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
I don't know what can make a vibrate like that.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay, but next well yeah it comes after nine. Sound
is good. This is not your normal guardrail. This is fun,
although I don't think it's a good idea. I might
distract a driver, so as you drive by, it animates

(32:53):
if you look out your window.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
That's kind of a terrible idea. It's cool, it's a
terrible idea.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, well they made it pretty short for there, dear,
what could go wrong?

Speaker 8 (33:02):
Right, I'd be looking at every time I drove by.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Clip eleven, which comes after ten. Sound is good. This
is a great illusion. Do not trust your eyes, right,
our brains are fooled easily. Here's going to be more
proof of that. Go ahead and play this.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
No, this is crazy.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
I don't know how these are not moving in the
direction that those errors are pointing, because I put a
roller up to them to test it and they're actually
not moving.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Nothing's moving.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
It's the last one.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
Look at this one. It's moving in all directions.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Does it move for you?

Speaker 8 (33:38):
Well, it looks like it. But if you if you
kind of kind of hold your hand in a cover
one up, yes.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, right, if you just look at the edge or whatever,
they kind of stop. Other than that, it's a great illusion.
Nothingbody cares. Clip twelve, which comes after eleven. Sound is
good for a sound This is ever sound set up
like I have never seen. This is kind of insane.

(34:03):
Go ahead and play this infrasound people. Now they got
a pan back. I'm gonna show the rest of this setup.

(34:46):
Look at little subs man. Okay, that's nuts. Yeah, can
we do clip thirteen. This comes after twelve. All right,
sound is good. Sound is good. This is kind of
a great magic trick. And if anybody knows how this

(35:09):
was done, please let me know. I'm serious. Watch it
a few times.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
Okay, I watch your hair.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
The trick is so transparent.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
Wait is the camera?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I love stream magic.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
Paces. Don't take your eyes off. Let me flick it. Okay,
I just do.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
I watched Joe.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
All right, that's impressive. That's a good street trick. I
went to the cafe yesterday and ordered a meal and
then ordered that, well, get a coffee too, right, And
then it's like, well I'll take a coffee too, Okay, great,
So now we got two cokes, two coffees. The coffee

(36:32):
was four bucks for each cup. I'm like, whoa. Things changed.
I remember the old days of the tally ho. They
were thirty cents and that was like that was after
the Carter administration inflation. They got up all the way
to thirty cents, and we thought that was crazy. Now
it's four bucks. Yep. That's street magic, right, yeah, makes

(36:52):
the money disappear. They took my money. Oh my god,
it's getting expensive out there. It was like eighty bucks
for just two little, basic, little dinners a mom and
pop cafe.

Speaker 8 (37:05):
It's it's tough, man. I know that.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I know you do well. I used to own a restaurant,
you know. Yeah, I had a big restaurant.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
And people think that the restaurant owners are getting rich.
And I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I worked three years and never drew one penny.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
On ye, the margins restaurants are just.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Not one penny. I had a ball, I had fun.
That was wonderful experience. It was on my bucket list.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
Didn't make it, and I noticed you're not doing it anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
And I didn't lose any money. But I didn't make
a penny. But I worked. But the money you lose
is the labor that you lose, because that's like a
lot of labor, right I was. I owned that restaurant
while I was producing monster quests, believe it or not.
Busy guy that was busy. Yeah. Anyhow, So what else
do we get? I think we're done with? Oh no, no, no, no, no,

(38:02):
we got no we got two more? I think oh
were one infant sound, we have the U the magic trick.
Oh just one more clip fourteen that comes after thirteen.
This is weird because when it gets when it gets
cold in Florida, if you're in the right area, it
will rain. Iguanas go aheads.

Speaker 9 (38:19):
Out Florida right now and it's forty one degrees.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
When it gets this cold, the iguanas can't hold on.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
They literally rain out of the trees.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Here's one on the sidewalk, looks frozen solid, but it's
just chilled and waiting for the sun.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
Their bodies go stiff.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Wow, yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Oh yeah, they just they just gotta go to sleep
and they fall. I don't think they get hurt, unless
maybe there's a bunch of iguanas walking around with little
casts on their legs. Hope not, that's kind of brutal. Anyhow,
what have gotten next here? How are we doing on time?

Speaker 8 (38:52):
That's about twenty two?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Oh yeah, oh we can get through this quick because
they only have a few Okay, so this is another
not a contest, not a contest, not a contest, but
at one point everybody can play this. At one point
I'm going to say this is the one and if

(39:15):
you are the closest person, we can somehow find it
in the thing and in the crazy chat we will
then send you not a prize, and not a prize,
we will send you not a price. Is not a
contest because it's not a contest. So here we go.
Let's start. These are weird marketplace picks. It's now time

(39:39):
for untold radios, odd, strange, weird and zany marketplace deals.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Please don't let these gems slip away.

Speaker 8 (39:54):
I didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
No, no, no, that's fine. That guy looks like somebody,
the guy with the magnifying test. Who does that look like?
It reminds me of some actor anyhow, See you're all
by yourself. There you go, No you're not. This is
this is antique conjoined twins. It's what they call a

(40:16):
bisk doll. It was apparently made in Germany. It's obviously
a rare. Who the heck is it? I'm going to
make conjoined twin dolls, no clue, you'll see those every day.
It was made in the late eighteen hundreds or the
early nineteen hundreds, right, and they call it the twin
bisk doll. And it's a frozen doll, so it doesn't

(40:40):
move or anything, doesn't articulate. And how much is this
thing worth? And don't look it up. Don't cheat. So
we got fifty, we got fifty four fair x is
one of five. Excuse me, Minxies says, there wasn't jes

(41:01):
that goes by so quick. I've heard him.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Can you read these? Good?

Speaker 8 (41:06):
No? I can't.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
They're deserve Miss Mary's is one hundred and fifty fifteen
hundred for Debbie blah blah blah for sixty gregs is
greg ols Sin says four sixty or no sixty. No,
I can't there. I'm I'm like gonna read one and
then it flips.

Speaker 8 (41:26):
Yeah, they're coming on pretty fast. I just scroll, I
just scrollways the nine hundred.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay, it's a hundred bucks, so cutting me off hundred bucks.
I don't think anybody got a hundred I don't think
so it's yeah whatever, So there you go flat. If
you want to buy this can join twin dole. There
it is. Just look it up. It's a hundred bucks.
It's probably worth it. It might be worth thousands. I
don't know what do you what do you think Jeffrey would?

Speaker 8 (41:55):
Yeah, repiece it gets I don't really care to own
that A right next.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
One is a collector item, I guess it is the doors.
People are strange. Forty five to seven inch, forty five rpm.
This is what we used to listen to when I
was a kid, and uh, you know, I was you know,
putting a lot of good scratches on. Yeah, they would

(42:21):
skip anyhow. So everybody want to guess what this is
selling for. It looks like it's in really good shape.
Comes with a bunch of the jackets and lyrics and
all sorts of stuff from the doors. So it's here tenness,
he's forty five, William Robinson's at twenty five, Mary not one,

(42:47):
twenty five, Gregelsince forty five, twenty five and twenty five yen, Okay,
that's a good one. Slave Box.

Speaker 8 (42:56):
I don't know what the construction is.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
It's like a penny. I don't know think it is. Yeah.
Debbie Krueger's five, one hundred and fifty forty, God, Debbie,
I wish I had a big record collection I could
sell you anyhow.

Speaker 8 (43:10):
Rust was pretty close.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah it's twenty bucks. Yeah, so there you go. Records
are not worth much money.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
No, there's the not really, they're just not. Yeah, a lot,
not a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I keep having people leave me the record collections. You
know when people pass and there's just not a lot
of them are worth like ten cents.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
Well more than that, but well they.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Rifled through them pretty quick when you want to get
rid of them. Yeah, and it's like I gave you
the five bucks for the box. It's like, okay, they're
not worth much. But there's always that one that is right.
That's the problem. They're very on off all right. The
next one is something I know you'd love to own
and display it.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
Oh yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Not going to say the word creepy, but McDonald's dolls.
How much are these? And this is the one. So
if you guys, who ever can come the closest and
the first, it's gonna be the closest and the first
before I cut you off, will win. Not a contest,
not a contest, and it's no prize. We'll send you

(44:20):
something no charge, but it's not a prize. Uh, guess
on the price, and it's for each or or pair,
but just guess for each one so you can you
can you can have more than one guess, so as
I see the right price, where you've won the Not
a contest.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
It's not a contest. You've got a price, no price
but exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I like the way you worded that. Do you see
the price that I don't. It's really close there, really close,
really close, like it's warm, warm, warm, warm warm. So
far it's the closest I think Loretti goes. I hate clowns. Yeah,

(45:09):
I don't blame you. I think most people do. Like
what were they thinking for marketing that? God?

Speaker 8 (45:16):
Who would want that?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh? Vera Ax just keeps sneaking up there. Oh I
got he says, and all those Oh my god. Okay,
we're gonna cut it off. Beverir Axe is the winner.
It's twenty five bucks each. He was like twenty three,
twenty four, twenty two, twenty.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
So yeah, email me.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I'm Patrick Patrick got it too. So let's let's okay
Patrick and the Vera Axe. You both are not a winner.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
They don't win anything, but we will. We might change
you something.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yes, So you got to get Jeff your do you
Jeff at Jeff.

Speaker 8 (46:02):
Jeff at Untold Radio am dot com. You mail me
your mailing address please and I'll see that you don't
get anything because it wasn't a contest, and get anything,
no charge, But I still need your address, but just
in case.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Right, exactly, yeah, exactly. Okay, that was all right. Let's
see here. We've got just a couple more. We're done.
We're gonna bring David one. So we have a weird,
creepy painting of a girl with the say helmet here. Yeah,
that's quite the herd. A great way to describe it

(46:36):
with straight bangs. How much is this painting? Looks pretty old?
The masterpiece is the helmet here, and she has her
arms behind her back and slightly booked teeth.

Speaker 8 (46:54):
Actually, the mouth and the eyes are pretty good, but
the mouth and eyes and nose are pretty good. The
best is strange.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
No, William, you were not a winner. Not a winner.
So here we go. Let's see here who got it?
Mary Joe? Yeah, Tennessee Mary Joe and Tennessee you both
fifteen bucks fifteen I'm still trying to figure out why bother? Okay,

(47:24):
this next one, I'm thinking, what go ahead? This is
like what?

Speaker 8 (47:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:30):
This is strange. It's so strange somebody would even bother
posting it. Yeah, it is two with the tobacco tins. Yeah,
unless John Lennon made it. It's like, whatever, do you
want to guess? Please guess what they're selling this particular

(47:53):
piece of art. It is art. Let's keep that in
mind and know John Lennon did not make it, not
to my knowledge. Free uh Lisa's three dollars Marions is
free Unknown Comics, Gregs.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
The Unknown Comic. Remember that was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, well yeah, the Gong Show.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
Yeah, that was good stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I heard he was a CIA agent.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Who knows that that's uh, what's his name again, Chuck,
Chuck Barris, wasn't it Chuck Barris?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, he was a character man. Yeah. We thought it
was probably the duct taped banana. Yeah, that didn't sell
for a lot of money. And Debbie says one dollar
all right, whoever guessed fifteen got it right. So if
you want to drive all the way to wherever he's
selling that and pick up the weird two ten tobacco

(48:50):
wal art, you're welcome to. I don't think I don't
think she was included, Brandon.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
That would make it worth a lot more like that
would like cripple the price.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
Yeah, anyways, moving on, and then.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
We have uh, this is just weird too. It's like,
what the hell is this thing? Let's skip that one. Well, oh, way,
go ahead. I'm just gonna tell you right now, they're
asking four hundred for this. Never guess. I don't know
what the hell it is. It's like a see through

(49:29):
lawn director with no cutting blade. I don't know what it.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
Is speak of. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
One of those The next one's good, though. What the
hell is the what got into a somebody that decided
to make this? They call it a TV lamp? You
were supposed to put it on your TV?

Speaker 9 (49:47):
Like?

Speaker 1 (49:47):
What in the world?

Speaker 8 (49:49):
Feeling there was drugs involved in that decision making proud gosh.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well no, they produce these things like they were produced.

Speaker 8 (49:57):
There was a drugs involved in the done?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so it is who's got this? I
wants to guess what that's what you would you pay? Okay,
Lisa's seventy nine? I would say you're the closest lee.

Speaker 8 (50:12):
Oh, it's a pretty good guess.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, it's uh seventy bucks for that bad boy? What
is the thing is that supposed to be a hat?

Speaker 8 (50:21):
I don't understand what the heck's going on there. That
doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And I think that's the light bulb in the mouth.

Speaker 8 (50:28):
In the mouth, yeah, that's where you put the light bulb.
I'm not getting it.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I don't get it.

Speaker 8 (50:33):
The last one's pretty appropriate, though.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, And I have a feeling next time we see
Flat he'll be wearing this damn thing. This is a
Comedy Central workaholic. Let's get weird, tight eyed truckers skater
hat combo. So how much is that worth? Come on, guys,
how much is that worth? Eighteen dollars? It's a pretty

(51:00):
good guess from Tennessee. Flat Flat goes, I'm in, man,
he's in, I guarantee. Do you remember that we had
amon house and he had the hat on that we
were about ip in your pools?

Speaker 8 (51:14):
Greg nailed it fifteen fifteen bucks. Nice job there you go.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You know all it's hot. There's one that come on
Flat you get a rush and get that thing hardered.
I said, we don't help people.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
All right, you're gonna know of that crap.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You know of that crap. Let's do uh whatever? If
you just gotta do a disclaim? Do you have any
commercials to run? No one one?

Speaker 8 (51:40):
I can. Okay, here we go, let's run one.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
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find out?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
In paranormal apocalypse. Creepy dude, creepy dude, we are back, Okay,
our guest. I don't have a big bio on him,
because he will or we're going to have to drill

(53:42):
him a little bit on it. But David studied sociology.
You got a PhD in it criminology at Bulling Green
State University. And he's from Montpellier. Is that he said? Montpellier, Ohio.
He is a retired senior special Agent UH with a

(54:08):
with a major three letter federal agency law or law
enforcement agency. Sorry, And he also has a t S
and an SCI Security clearance and UH classified career creds.
He's an expert in digital forensics, digital image expert in

(54:32):
federal and state courts. Oh, there comes up, burp. Did
you did you get it?

Speaker 8 (54:39):
Did you get.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I shouldn't be drinking rope here? That's like, that's so
unprofession That is a terrible idea. He worked on major
cases in national security investigations. And I thought, okay, and
I've known David for quite a while, but we haven't
had him on yet. So let's go.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
Let's get David disclaimer real quick.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh yeah, you gotta disclaim him. He's watches David. We're
gonna disclaim you.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
We're going to disclaim right now.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I think we need to have a contest disclaimer that
this is not I think we're gonna do that. This
is not a good not a prize.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Anyways, Well, welcome Dave. Ready to bring them on. Here
we comes. Hello.

Speaker 9 (55:41):
Hey, how are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I like your I like your QR code. That's pretty
clever move there, dude, he's clever move. That's what I
call a clever marketing move. That's good though, it looks good.
That's smart because you can just scan. I don't know
where you're gonna go.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
Anybody can find me on Facebook. I'm on a lot
of the platforms out there, like you too.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I'm gonna try it. I gotta try your QR code.
Try honest, see if it works. Hold on there. I
love QR codes, They're cool, but I got to warn
people don't just do QR codes anywhere that like, if
somebody mails you want or if something happens, don't ever
scan it. Yeah, it's working. There, you go.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Good.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Anyhow, Welcome David. So you got.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I know we have a little delay, but you got
interested in a lot of weird obviously weird topics, and
bigfoots one of them. And I know you're good friends
with Valves of all right. I think that's how I
met you.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
Correct that that was a great guy.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, he's the gumshoe guy and he runs the the
Michigan Bigfoot Report in Michigan and Vales. He's amazing. Anyhow,
so I'm glad I met you and we've had some
interesting conversations. Do you do you have any idea? Yeah,

(57:19):
the government has or Inklan I should say, the government
has any information about these creatures. Are you convinced the no? Everything?

Speaker 9 (57:31):
Well, let me start start out first your introduction. I
want to be very clear. I do not have a PhD.
Have a master's degree. The Feds came knocking on my
door before I could finish. But I did teach at
two colleges and two universities. Before being a federal agent,

(57:52):
I was a police officer in Ohio, went back to
get my degrees, and so I have a lot of
experience as both the police officer and federal agents.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, that's right. I think I'm not sure how I
read it, but it does say the official bio David's
study PhD in sociology. Never you never said you had
one for absolutely.

Speaker 9 (58:16):
Right, So yeah, getting to your getting to your question,
The government hides they have they have many secrets. And
I can tell you for certain having worked as a
special agent for the federal government, there is a lot

(58:39):
of things that happen out there and are happening out
there that the government does not want the public to
know about. I think it's about ninety percent of things
that happen out there never finds its way to the
American public. They just never know about it. A lot
of different things, national security things obviously, things that would

(59:03):
terrify the public. Actually things regarding things like bigfoot UFOs.
Of course we had a big ufo uh disclosure with
Michael Braver and the Tic tac ufo. But but then
you had you had the guys testifying in Congress, right,

(59:26):
and they're given approval to testify and to tell the
public like lou Alesando right at that point, they're not whistleblowers,
they are government operatives giving up information. So there's there
is just so much that the government hides, and it

(59:47):
was a real eye opener becoming an agent and getting
some of The information you get fits in pieces and
sometimes you can hit them together, uh, to to see
a larger picture as to what could be going on
in this country and with different different topics and different

(01:00:10):
things going on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
You would you would think, David, that they're highly aware
of all of the weird reports that people have seen
and reported about, you know, weird things that happen with bigfoot,
you know from what do they call it? Coming out
of portals disagreeing? Uh? What do they call that, Jeff, David,

(01:00:37):
what do they call that? Like the predator? What was
it doing? Cloaking looking, that's.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
The word of cloaking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, they must be aware of these reports. You would
think that would cause them to be interested in it.
That would be the weird stuff that they would be
interested in. Do you agree?

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
I agree? And they study such things and things such
as dark the Advanced Defense Agency that comes up with
all of the advanced technology for the military. They would
want to know about these things. And you know, in

(01:01:14):
terms of cloaking and everything, there is an interesting phenomenon
with the polar bears that their hair is actually translucent.
It has no color and it only appears white because
of the snow that's next to them, so technology, and
they want to know about this stuff. They want to

(01:01:35):
know about everything they can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Have you studied their hair a little bit, the weird
on some of the weird aspects of their hair Bigfoot, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:01:48):
Yeah, a little bit. But I could be uh, I
could be up on that a little bit better than
what I am tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
The fact that it's kind of a clear tube, very
similar to like a polar bear here is odd, and
it does does some weird things under eavy light, especially
when you look at it under an infrared camera. There's
a lot of there's a lot of weird qualities with it.

(01:02:18):
You know, it's it's got the it's very thin, very wispy,
it's transparent. Don't you think that would help them maybe
blend in a little bit?

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, without a doubt it would.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
I often wonder though, really if they have any kind
of a little group that studies Bigfoot that kind of
keeps track on the all the podcasts and the witnesses.
You would think they would. I mean they have endless money, correct, David,
I mean, well to take who would it take to

(01:03:01):
have a few guys full time looking into the big
wood industry?

Speaker 7 (01:03:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
The The government definitely has an interest in these subjects
for a few reasons. First, uf you end up with
topics like bigfoot in UFOs in particular, they call them
fringe subjects. But they they want to know, well, let's

(01:03:31):
take let's take UFOs UH for instance. Okay, they want
to know if groups like Moufan and and other groups
out there that study them, if that if they got
a hold of information that was classified or leaked. So

(01:03:54):
they do monitor the groups for that. They do monitor
the groups for another reason as well, and that is
because people that belong to these fringe groups often belong
to other fringe groups that might have some national security

(01:04:16):
concerns like militias and other nefarious things going on. And
in terms of Bigfoot groups UFO groups, without a doubt,
the government agencies that start with a C and a
D do collect intelligence on people that are interested in

(01:04:40):
those things and would even infiltrate the groups UH to
to to gain intelligence. And these intelligence agencies, you need
to understand, they're everywhere. They're in Hollywood, as Jeff and
I spoke about earlier. They are in UH corporations, most

(01:05:01):
major corporations. They are in academia, they are literally everywhere,
and you wouldn't you wouldn't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Is this something that I mean, I'm in all seriousness.
Is this something that people kind of need to be
a little concerned about, Like researchers, some of the top researchers.
Do you think they're being listened to and kind of
you know, I don't know, spyte on.

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
I think I think definitely that tabs are being kept
on at least some of them. And you said in
my introduction, I did friends, it's computer forensics. I did
that for the government for like what ten years, twelve years,
and we did undercover stuff as well. And I'm just thinking,

(01:05:49):
you know, the best way that I would approach it
if if I had theoretically, if I had an investigation
where an open an investigation and intelligence investigation to develop
intelligence from these groups, I would go to their conventions.

(01:06:10):
I would become a member of the group, go to
the conventions. I would set up I would buy a
hotel room, have the g buy hotel room, set up
in the hotel room, set up my equipment hidden in
my luggage, and I would connect to the hotel's Wi
Fi and basically suck the data off of every device, laptop, phone,

(01:06:37):
whatever is attached to the hotel Wi Fi of anyone
attending these events. So and there's other things, other ways
that they could use, like even cell tower emulators that
tricks your phone into connecting with it instead of the
actual cell tower. And basically they can grab all of

(01:07:00):
the data from your phone. And I've got to believe
that it has happened, and it possibly could still be
happening on an ongoing basis.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
But do we need to be concerned? There's it just
like who cares for nothing to hide? Let them, let
them dig or or should we be concerned? I mean,
what are your thoughts on that? I mean, would you
feel comfortable being you know, I mean you were in
that that part of the government, But would you feel
personally okay with being spied on if you're having a

(01:07:36):
private conversation with al or whoever.

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
Well, first of all, all of the data from everybody
is being collected from your phone. Uh, there's like data centers.
I believe there's like too a neat states and major
data centers. I think they're called fusion centers or something
like that, where the data is archived and stored. That way,

(01:08:02):
if something happened, and this came after that big event
in September two thousand and one. I don't know what
we can stay here on this platform, but basically they
solved it by grabbing everyone's data and they've continued to
do so under the Patriot Act, which I used almost

(01:08:28):
every day. And so your data is being stored and
archived anyway in a manner that they can go back
and search if they want. But you know, in terms
of being monitored and everything, you need, you need something

(01:08:49):
to come to their attention to be monitored, and that
does happen as well. And you know, people say that,
you know, the government's watching me, they're doing this and that,
and they're following me whatever. I'm sorry. A lot of
the people out people you're just not important and UH

(01:09:17):
and most of us aren't. What I do know is
that once you had a very high security clearance, they
basically you you sign an agreement with them where you
will allow them to search your data, search whatever for
the rest of your life. So they do keep tabs

(01:09:41):
on people with UH had security clearances.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I mean, it's getting it's getting crazy. Our vacuum cleaners
are spine on us toasters, refrigerators. TVs have cameras out.
I guess all the new smart TVs have a camera.
I say, we're not utilizing those where they were. You know,
I've heard light bulbs like these new LED light bulbs,

(01:10:07):
a lot of them may have chips in them to
listen in on your conversations. And that's crazy. I mean,
it's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 9 (01:10:16):
A lot of that is being driven by technology, like
from China. And you know, I saw I saw a
something on my phone. It was it was like one
of these games that you do, okay, and it said
take a picture of your face and we'll tell you
your fortune, right, and you enable your camera. Then you

(01:10:37):
take a picture of your face and send basically your
biometric data to China, which is not a good idea.
And people that are on tick pack, you know, all
of your data, everything's going directly to China. So you know,
you have China wanting to get all the information that

(01:10:58):
they can in terms of gathering intelligence, and then you
have the same apparatus at work in the United States
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
It's getting it's getting weird. So I'm going to just
tell you this story. I want to tell you this
quick story. David Very simple. I was on the phone
late at night with my daughter. I was giving her
some kind of insider information about legimate science I have
not talked about with anybody, and we both hear this

(01:11:32):
call is being recorded. Okay, now we both have iPhones
and I don't. There's no feature that I have or
she has I can do that, and it kind of
freaked around. I said, well, let's just talk about something personal,
and we changed the subject, and then we heard a
beep and we heard an echo, like kind of an
echo of like somebody shutting off. And then when we

(01:11:54):
started talking about bigfoot again bad we heard this conversation
or something to that effect. This conversation is being recorded,
and it really weirded us out. So what do you
make of that? That's, you know, in other words, if

(01:12:14):
somebody was listening, why would it be announced like that?

Speaker 9 (01:12:19):
That probably was a technical glitch that was not supposed
to be heard by you, right in other words, right, well, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Talk about that. So if somebody who's like listening, there
was a technical glitch that allowed us to hear that
they were listening to us, that's what you mean, right, Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:12:41):
Yeah, in effect, they blew their cover.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah, can you can you like, you know, talk a
little more about that and how that works.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
What I what I do know is if you look
in the information. Uh again, I'm not going to talk
about anything that's classified obviously your stuff. There's stuff I
can never talk about. There's stuff I can Yeah, there's
stuff I can talk about, like on the periphery. But

(01:13:13):
there's stuff I can't talk about. But there was this
project and it's out there. It's public information. I was
called echelon And basically this technology is the same technology
that allows you to uh call like your doctor's office
and or or your pharmacy and allows you to talk

(01:13:37):
to the menu, allows you voice prompts at the menu
because it's voice recognition within within the within the technology. So, uh,
this came about the government I believe, and I believe

(01:14:01):
has used echelon to screen all communications domestic. They used
to be only catching data that was going to satellites
and overseas. But if they can articulate uh, the possibility

(01:14:22):
that it would hit a satellite, then they have the
nexus they need to to screen it. So basically, the
echelon would screen calls for certain keywords and phrases and
then if you speak one of these keywords or phrases,

(01:14:45):
then the call is recorded and plagued for a later review.
And it's it's my understanding and belief that this is
what came with Project Echelon, and this is how things
largely work. You know, like if you text somebody, uh,
if you send text messages, then you know certain words

(01:15:09):
are automatically plagued for further reviews.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Well, I have said one of those words. I mean
that's possible, right, I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
Remember exactly exactly you think about think about I don't
know if you guys were fans of Art Bell back
in the day, right, I'm sure you were. But he
he had he had a collar on somebody that said
he worked at Area fifty one and started giving information.

(01:15:36):
It's a really famous episode that he did. But the
guys giving information said, they're following me, they're they're they're
behind me. I'm driving and the guy actolutely scared, and
and then they lost the cell connection. But worse than that,

(01:15:58):
just exactly then Art Bells broadcast gets knocked off of
the air. It's almost like somebody it's like somebody almost
emp'd this radio station and they had to go like
the backup generators just to get back on the air.
So you can bet they're very interested in controlling the

(01:16:20):
narrative and controlling the information that gets out there. And
what I can what I can tell you is things
happen in this country, ninety percent of which is never
known by the public, some of which is pretty frightening.
I think if the public knew the restless, they would

(01:16:43):
be alarmed, alarmed and maybe upset as well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Do you think it would be, like, you know, just
a drop in a bucket to have a few Would
they have a few agents and monitor in the big
bootnistry or would it be four? Would be ten? I mean,
how many do you think they actually would assigned?

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
What what I what I could see is certain agencies
that monitor fringe groups like militia groups and other groups
of intelligence agencies that start with D n C. But
like as an agent, you carry a caseload and for

(01:17:30):
for them they're called case officers, not special agents or
case agents or case officers. But you carry a caseload.
So some of which you are working, you're working with
the goal of of solving the case, bringing it to

(01:17:52):
prosecution as soon as possible, and other cases are more
open ended cases. So what I envision such a thing
being as is agencies that for instance, investigate things having
to do with QPUs, alcohol, tobacco, other agencies that would

(01:18:20):
investigate domestic intelligence and their agents who and their agents
who would have basically an open pace that would be
kept open for probably several years in which they tried

(01:18:43):
to develop contacts, They try to develop sources, they try
to develop information. In terms of the agency that starts
with A. They're trying to make connections with other fringe
groups that are up to no good and often illegal things.
And I'm all for that because they hide and they

(01:19:09):
use uh these other groups such as UFO groups, put
groups just fringe into like hollow earth theory, flatter earth,
flat earth groups, stuff like that, in order to connect
in order to communicate and find one another. Yeah, So

(01:19:30):
as far as as far as how many doug, as
far as wild gas, as far as how many you
probably have, Like in in the agency I worked for
had about eight eight thousand agents. The agency I worked
for did not have the letters FBC or A in it.

(01:19:54):
That's what I can tell you. But the agency I
worked for about maybe seventy five hundred agents, and other
agents are large, other agencies are larger, some of the smaller.
So out of those agents agencies you might have, you
might have ten ten in the agency that actually have

(01:20:19):
open investigations. Just looking at the looking at these things
and think about this. You know, you Doug picking an asset. Okay,
what what what I would do is create a podcast
and attract people to me if I was running such
an operation, and I would host a podcast and have

(01:20:43):
basically and solicit information and intelligence in that way. That
would be one of the ways. So I don't know,
do you get a second paycheck? Doug barely get one?

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
But hey, thank you Charles, and thank you Andrew. We
appreciate it. Do you so one of the questions Virix
had a question, I believe, let's ask a question Andrews
going camera glass drain batteries are not sasquatch, but are

(01:21:24):
the results of technology of those monitoring that particular pod.
Could That's a great observation.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
That could that could be completely totally plausible because we
have we have pe pews that hey, I'll just call
them nugs, right, nugs. We have we have actual nugs
that that will shoot out an e MP pulls and
take down a drone. So what happens if you shoot

(01:21:56):
shoot that at a camera? What happens if you shoot
that at an iPhone? It's gonna kill it. It's gonna
it's gonna kill the battery. It's gonna it's gonna fry it, basically,
So that's that's entirely plausible.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Well what's uh. We we had a we had a
bunch of orbs in our yard years ago. We came
back from fishing, and we had came back and we
got started screaming blah blah blah, and so I started
filming these orbs that were all over yard, all over
the everywhere. They were white and they would disappear and
then thing would go black and they would turn white

(01:22:31):
and they would swarm around, almost like an organic pot
of animals, but they weren't because they disappear and then
they would reappear. But my phone got damaged beyond repair
that day. Uh never got used again. It was a
brand new wife phone. I had to bring it in.

(01:22:51):
They said, dude, your phone's a brick, like it's done.
And I took it to another guy and fed it
and he's like nope. I had to buy a new phone.
But was that from the UFOs or was that from
like you said, maybe somebody zapped it because they didn't
want me to share that footage exactly. I was getting

(01:23:13):
amazing footage. Like it was amazing what I was getting.
I was within maybe twenty feet of these things, and
there were hundreds and hundreds of them, and I'm getting
I'm zooming in, I'm doing you know, I'm a camera guy.
I'm getting really good stuff. And I thought, oh, this
is maybe the best UAP footage ever taken in history.

(01:23:37):
And this is before AI or anything in my never
was never got it. That was completely wiped off the phone.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Never.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
They couldn't get it anywhere. So there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:23:50):
It could have been a very energetic phenomenon that was
going on or where he could have been, or he
could have been zapped somehow. What I can tell you
phone that are bricked. I had a very important case
one time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Have you ever heard of them before? I've never heard
beig on, David, this is it? Whoa, whoa, whoa? Have
you ever heard of a phone being bricked before? I
have never heard that before from anybody.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
Yes, yes, yes, we ran into phones being bricked and
and again. One one very important case, I had a
phone was underwater for many days and we very much
needed to get the data from the phone. And I

(01:24:36):
had to call up Apple and convince them to sell
me a brand new phone, the same making model that
was unused, forensically sterile call it. And I sent the
the the phone that was submerged for days, and the

(01:24:58):
brand new phone to a place that was high least secretive.
I'll just leave it at that, and they were able
basically to rebuild the phone and retrieve everything off of
the phone, which was no less than amazing. What they

(01:25:20):
were able to do just ridiculous, amazing, and hats off
to them. They really gave some really important information for
that particular case.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Wow. So the phone was destroyed, yes, not by the owner, right,
And there was nothing you can do, like nothing like
they made it sound like. They came up these texts
came out in the back room at Sprint and they go,
we've never seen anything like this. We can't even we

(01:25:58):
can't nothing will even get up any electricity. And I went, right, yeah,
your phone's a brick, dude, It's like it's made out
of clay. And I went, Okay, bring it to this guy.
So I brought it to another guy that they knew,
some guy that like replaces like glass screens and stuff.
But he was apparently really good at getting getting information

(01:26:22):
on phones that couldn't you know that have been like
underwater or whatever, no heat the same thing.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
Well, that makes sense that E and P would do that,
and me and P would just melt everything.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
I don't know right.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
Right, So like even even like for computers and phone
memory that has been overwritten, there are techniques that they
can retrieve the data before it was overwritten. Well, what
was interesting, They can get the previous data if.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
That film the phenomenon. But after it started leaving, like
it's eventually it started leaving, it was now over the
neighbor's rough and beyond, and I said, aren't you filming?
She's like no, And I'm like, get your phone out
and start because you can still see this swarm of
these things. So she started filming, and we have that

(01:27:18):
foot but it's it's far enough away now where it's
not like what I was getting. I mean, I was
really filming the phenomena beyond what I still think would
have been the best UAP footage ever in history. And
we got nothing except her footage, which is you know

(01:27:39):
you've seen her footage, right, Jeff, you sent it to me? Actually,
oh I did, Jeff, did I show you too. It's
like you can see him. You can see them disappear
and reappear, and you can see them going black and
then they go. It's like at first, you know, I thought, well,
maybe it's a flock of birds, but then you realize, oh,
that ain't bird. Birds aren't around, are they so? Anyhow?

(01:28:06):
And then people, okay, a couple of things. The army
and the military, they they see bigfoots. I know they do,
because I have some friends that are in the military
that have seen these things. And wouldn't that alone bring
this phenomena to the government's attention officials in the military.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
Absolutely. You know, if you're going back in history, you
know Daniel Boone I had a siting a big foot
and Teddy Roosevelt, President Teddy Roosevelt was conveyed firsthand a
bigfoot experience to him that he wrote in his book.

(01:28:51):
And of course Teddy Roosevelt was responsible for the establishment
of our National park system. So you know, you have
we have a lot of connections being made. Definitely people
in the military would would be in a great spot
to witness and to see these things. And I am
very certain you know, there are things, there's things out

(01:29:12):
there that we don't know about. You know, we can
and everybody says it, but you know, we can only
hear a very small part of the spectrum, or we
can only and we can only see a very tiny
part of the visual light spectrum. So you know, all
of this stuff is around us and we can't even
perceive it. So there's a lot out there that we

(01:29:35):
don't know about. There's a lot out there to be
discovered yet, and I think that leaves a lot of
room for a lot of experiences that people have a
hard time explaining.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
And what about the you know, the dog man phenomenon,
the dog man mystery they any going away anytime soon.
I mean, there's got their biologist that you name it
in these things, and they all talk about the terrific
speed big Woods can run, the terrific speed that Dogwin

(01:30:09):
can run. Why wouldn't just that one trait you would
think would interest the military, which is the government.

Speaker 9 (01:30:17):
And absolutely it would, Yeah, And because if they could
find out how that's done as well as you know,
like polar pullu bear hair and they look even I
think at geckos that have suction cups on their hands,
and they made suction cups like that people can actually

(01:30:39):
climb like uh. I think it's a gecko that they
can like climb on a wall like abug now and
basically reverse engineer uh biology uh found in nature or
use in defense? And would they do that? Absolutely, they
would do that and and do it as much as

(01:31:02):
they could. Anything that would give them the upper hand
over our adversaries.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
What is somebody like you think, David, when you're getting
these reports too, of the speed that these creatures can
run at keep up with cars run fifty miles an hour.
People over and over report that to me, just the speed,

(01:31:32):
and we saw anything move that quick or that way
or that smooth. I mean, what goes through your mind?
Are you thinking supernatural? Are you thinking flesh and blood
was so superabilities? We're not aware of what's going through
your head? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:31:48):
I first of all, I think biological before anything else.
And what is what is supernatural? Other than a lot
of times science that we just haven't discovered yet, you know,
like like at some point radio waves or go back

(01:32:10):
even further than you know, higher we've seen as supernatural.
So I think a lot of it. You know, maybe
our science just needs to catch up and make the
discoveries to figure out how it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Yeah, I mean everything does seem like if you know,
back in the seventies we were seeing some of the
crap we have now, we would have thought, oh my god,
that's magical.

Speaker 9 (01:32:37):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Yeah. Do you feel that they know everything about these creatures?
Like everything? Would they have the would they have the
ability to catch a big foot, capture a big foot,
take one out? Blah blah blah. I mean I was
wonder that what do they know and how would they

(01:33:04):
have known that capture? Do you think they're capable of
capturing one where we're not.

Speaker 9 (01:33:12):
I think they have the ability to, But I think
chances are they're trying to figure it out, just like
everyone else. You know, there is this huge overstated perception
that that the government knows about everything and the government
has a handle on everything, and you know, I can

(01:33:36):
tell you a lot of it. They make it up
just as they go along. And do they really know
about everything? Do they really have a handle on everything?
Absolutely not So they're probably trying to figure it out
as well. And is it possible that, you know, should
these creatures exist, that they have killed or captured. Yeah,

(01:33:59):
that's entirely possible in order to study in order to
two uh to studies biology and and uh make that
to use it to make defense uh defense items, you know,

(01:34:23):
or the defense technology. I guess right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
So we've got a question here, Uh do you, David,
do the hominidts have the ability to utilize dimensions? Is
obviously one question that people have, and you know, people
have reported it. I don't know. I don't have no
answer to that. But but if they did, wouldn't that
just wouldn't they just like if there was like a

(01:34:52):
ton of consistent reports and they can and then they
can read about it listen to podcasts, wouldn't they go, Okay,
we have to figure that out. How are they doing that?
Like that would be technology they would want.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
Absolutely the UFO and you were you were broken up
a little bit. I understand you two have said that
they were like you're talking about the interdimensional aspect of that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Yeah, well, people report it. You would think that alone
would be motivation for the government to go, oh, this
is consistently reported this dimensional crap that alone you would
think would motivate motivate them.

Speaker 9 (01:35:33):
You know. Yeah, And you know in terms of UFOs,
you know, they had Project blue Book or forever, and
then when they closed Project blue Book, they kept on
researching researching it anyway, so when they they've been doing
so ever since. It is pretty obvious. So absolutely, and

(01:35:56):
these agencies want, these intelligence agencies and you know places
like DARFA, you know, any anything that they can exploit.
You know, how many.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
People are employed? Do you know how many people.

Speaker 9 (01:36:10):
That I couldn't tell you're it off that I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Ten people.

Speaker 9 (01:36:18):
Yeah, I can tell you. What's even larger than DARPA
are these defense contract companies that are shadow companies that
do defense things and they've actually been given again you know,

(01:36:38):
all of this I'm talking about. Nothing I'm speaking about
is official knowledge. It's my own opinion, my own thoughts,
my own whatever. But but these these these shadow quasi agencies,
like defense contract agencies, you know, have been given classified technology,

(01:37:05):
uh that becomes proprietary for them and that they can
develop into defense goods, and uh, it does, it does happen.
But I think that that number for the private defense
contract companies is much larger than any agency intelligence agency

(01:37:30):
out there that's doing it or darker.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
What do you think the best evidence for the existence
of a big foot is? What's the best evidence? To you?

Speaker 9 (01:37:45):
Yeah, that's evidence in order to to prove these things
are real. Ultimately, we're going to need a body and
you know, to report it to law enforcement. Then you know,
then the higher up show up and the FED show up,

(01:38:05):
and then they up goes the body or whatever and
it's never seen again. And uh, that's kind of been
the course. You know. Even the giant skeletons back in
the eighteen hundreds in Cincinnati, Southern Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri.

(01:38:30):
Ultimately the Smithsonian showed up and took them all and
they're lost. They're gone, and gee, we don't know where
they went to. We have no record of them. And
in that way, I think a lot you know the
same thing, it's probably happened. Do you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Feel that there is evidence? So that's good because you
didn't really answer why.

Speaker 9 (01:39:04):
I didn't. Let me let me circle, let me back
to that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
I just want to know, what do you think the
best evidence we have now?

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
What do we have right now that is okay.

Speaker 9 (01:39:15):
Photographic evidence, and I'm a digital image expert can be problematic.
Of course, since AI is from around it's even tougher
to delineate what's real and what's not. I recently had
a fairly credible, very credible researcher from Kentucky company with

(01:39:35):
some images. While we've got it, we've got the evidence,
and I basically did an analysis of it like I
would digital images at work, and I came to the
conclusion that there were images still images from a movie
that was cleverly modifed, slightly modified by AI and inserted

(01:40:04):
into what we're like trail can pictures. So in that case,
I debunked it. So it's getting tougher with Yeah, so
ultimately we need DNA, we need we need we need

(01:40:25):
some flesh and blood, we need video evidence, and we
we need credible witnesses, just not one. We need we
need an event where there's fifty witnesses, and we need
a nexus. We need a convergence of all of that
to happen at once. So it is indisputable. And you know,

(01:40:47):
if you get evidence of such a creature, you know
I would divide the evidence and send it to several
different places so that when the people show up to
take it and confiscate it, that they don't get all
of it. So that is that's my thought on that.

(01:41:11):
But it's gonna it would take the convergence of all
that stuff to to prove beyond it be on the
shadow of doubt. And even then, there's like fifteen billionaires
that own all of the media and everything that we see,
everything that has fed to us, Doug Jack, so they
can control what we see. And you know, even if

(01:41:36):
such an incident did happen, it would be very difficult
for it to even see the light of day.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
In interest, I was gonna ask you, David, do you
have a microphone on or are you wearing a microphone?

Speaker 9 (01:41:55):
No? No, right now it's on my microphone for the
microphone for the uh yeah, no, no, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not miked up or anything.

Speaker 8 (01:42:08):
So we have a challenge getting set up. Yeah, we we.

Speaker 9 (01:42:12):
Did some technical issues with some new hardware that basically
it blocked all of the audio courts and everything. So
it was what was the challenge and I'll yeah, something
to fix later.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
That's why we always try to do camera and and
Mike checks because it's not so easy, live, live tough. Okay,
you never know, So okay, So what's the best evidence,
physical evidence, That's what I'm talking about physical, mentioned, photographic,

(01:42:47):
and obviously the Patterson footage. But what do you think
is the best physical evidence that we have right now?

Speaker 9 (01:42:55):
DNA samples, because those can be checked versus known species
and unknown species. And if you have some unknown d
n A, maybe we need to start looking for other
species that that that we don't exist. And you know,
like uh, the late great doctor Meldrum very much a

(01:43:18):
gigantopithecus guy. Other people lean more towards like the interdimensional,
some people towards uh paranormal, other people towards psychic typic
type uh animal or or entity or whatever you want

(01:43:43):
to call it. But I think ultimately d n A
of an unknown species is going to help. It's going
to help solve this riddle.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. It's the good things are
coming is the price keeps coming down. We just spent
a bunch of money in this last week on DNA
and it's it's still really expensive. Don't get me wrong.
You know, if you don't think Tanner twenty thousand it's not.
Well it is, but back five years ago would have

(01:44:17):
been three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:44:20):
That's exactly right for all these I see. I see
the the the post down below about Russell Accord. Yeah,
love Russell. He's a great He's a great guy. He's
the real deal. I spent some time with him and

(01:44:41):
took a very close note of his tattoos, his military tattoos,
because they tell a story, and I did some research
on him, and very much he is who and what
he says he is, So he's in my opinion, he
has a lot of credibility.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Yeah. No, I like Russell.

Speaker 9 (01:45:03):
I like them great, great guy too, just a wonderful person,
wonderful person.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
I get to hang out with them a little bit
this summer or fall, I should say, as Jeff did, so, Okay,
what do we need to do to encourage getting the
government to really? I mean they're doing it with the

(01:45:29):
UAP thing. It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. The
more whistleblowers you get, the more you're gonna get. And
there at this point, as far as I know, there
has not been one government hearing. There hasn't been anything
on the Bigfoot mystery. What would it take me? What
do they have to get do they have to hire
does everybody have to get together, pull their money and

(01:45:51):
get a lobbyist. That's what they did with the UAP.

Speaker 9 (01:45:55):
Yeah, lobby iss certainly hope, lobby is, certainly hope. And
for the uf I forget the guy's name, but he
was represented about Arizona who brought it to the floor
of the house, I believe. So it's going to take
something like that. But but make no mistake, you know
the information that is really good about it. They are

(01:46:15):
going to clutch it very close to them and not
let go. They're going to hold on to it as
long as they can. And and quite frankly, you know,
if these things were, if these things were, if the
government tomorrow said they do exist, and by the way,

(01:46:39):
they're in the national park system, they're in all of
the national parks, and we we estabiedish the national parks
as a refuge for them, it would really upend our
country and people's confidence in the government and people's confidence

(01:47:01):
in being able to go these places and be safe.
It would fundamentally change everything. So to a certain degree,
they they they can't really admit it. Ever, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Okay, and Jim's got a question. Have you previous personally
ever heard through the grapevine or whatever indirectly of a
big food being taken by a government authority? Has that
ever whispered out of.

Speaker 9 (01:47:33):
The rumors personally? No? Personally no, Yeah, there there are
things that rumors that do circulate in in Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
You guys got to talk. I'm sure seek with eight
you know, clearances must talk to each other.

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:47:57):
But here's the thing. Okay, and I was told one
time a rather fantastic story of something. And I don't
want to really point as to what it was, but
I immediately thought, okay, it could be a test, in

(01:48:18):
other words, to test and see if you are a leak.

Speaker 15 (01:48:25):
So they so they they put out, they.

Speaker 9 (01:48:30):
Put out a story and then see who repeats it,
and then they know if you talk or not. So
when I heard this story, I kept my mouth shut
and I didn't say anything. It ended up being confirmed
about a year later with UH a researcher who brought

(01:48:55):
it out to the media, but it was known before
about a year year and a half before in the
media and became known there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Wow, I had never really thought about that that they
would provide you guys here and there, there's see a
few spill the beans, tell you buddy.

Speaker 15 (01:49:16):
Right, So so you know to the degree that you
know the these these rumors circulate, are they are they
being circulated for that purpose or and are they false
for that purpose?

Speaker 9 (01:49:32):
Or are they true? You know? And in the case
of the one that I had heard, the rumor I
had heard going around a year and a half later,
it was a story in the press and they did uh,
some researchers actually did some did some films on it,

(01:49:55):
and uh in a big way. So I think that
one in particular probably had some delidity behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
It's interesting, have you lately I've been hearing more and
more information coming out about some of these government whistleblowers
and came forward that they're being attacked in their homes
by orbs. Have you heard any of this? I mean,
they've been a talker and they've been all these places saying, yeah,

(01:50:24):
we've been seeing stuff in our homes. You know, we don't.

Speaker 9 (01:50:29):
I have not heard anything like that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
So in fact, one of these guys can't matter if
it's Crush or one of these guys sons got in
their home and he had to go to the hospital
ORB on their home. It's like, what.

Speaker 9 (01:50:48):
You No, I haven't heard anything like that whatsoever. I
don't doubt. I don't doubt what you're saying, but I
just don't have any information about that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
Yeah, the hitchhiker effect, right, And that's seems to happen
with some Bigfoot researchers too, where they they go out
on an expedition or they're out on there just nightly
whatever they do, and then they come home and there's
some grap going on in their home. You know, I've
heard that too.

Speaker 9 (01:51:17):
Yeah, yeah, a lot can be said, uh as well,
you know, like negative spirit attachments, you know, following you
around as well. You know, people that that are into
the paranormal stuff report that can happen, and you know
it could be it could be a real thing for sure.

(01:51:37):
So yeah, yeah, I forget where I was going to
go with that, But go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
I'm sorry, No, No, that's fine, Jeff. Can we take
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Speaker 8 (01:53:03):
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Speaker 9 (01:53:04):
We are back, great, great, great.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
So what in the world do you do you hear
about that's not classified, but that you might have a
little special aspect to you know what I mean, a
little a little up on it because you're in law enforcement.
Is there anything shocking? There's gotta be, you know, something

(01:53:30):
that's not classified that you can talk about.

Speaker 9 (01:53:33):
Yeah, there's there's always there's always stuff in law enforcement
that's shocking and that a lot of people in the
public wouldn't believe. But I think, you know, I think
right now might be a good time to talk about
like reports that are made to the police and the

(01:53:54):
reports that that officers have to take regarding bigfoot or
other other strange happenings. Let's call it that. And then
you know, people go and then get oyer requests for
this information, which which is great that that can be had,

(01:54:18):
but the information itself should not be seen as evidence
or true because the information still needs to be validated. Uh.
No matter how you get the report from somebody calling
up or messaging you know, a researcher, or or giving
it to the government, all it means is that at

(01:54:40):
some point they called a government agency and nade a
report with the government agency. It doesn't necessarily mean it's true.
And to be quite honest with you, I'm sure you
have had hoaxes called into the police, and the police,
you know, they get it and then the stargent says, yeah,

(01:55:00):
we got this report. Yeah, let's send the rookie out
to take this report. Why because he's the rookie and
you get messed with when you're the rookie. And yeah,
and then you go out to this report and you're like, okay,
so how seriously should I treat this? And do they
actually expect me to write up a report? And and uh,

(01:55:26):
they do that not just with Bigfoot, but other things
as well. And it's part of being a rookie. They
do that to you. So you know, these Foyer requests,
you know, you know, some of some of the reports
could be true, some some might have been obtained, you know,
just as the result of you know, let's send the

(01:55:48):
rookie out, Let's send the rookie out, Let's send the
new guy out. They do that to you, but they
need to be validated. The information still needs be investigated
and validated. Just because it's a it comes back as
a player request doesn't mean the information is true, factual,
and evidentiary.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:56:12):
Police get hoax calls all the time. So anyway, what
what was the other part of your Do they really thought?

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
Does law enforcement get a lot of hoax calls? I've
never asked anybody that question.

Speaker 9 (01:56:29):
Yeah, yeah, you do, you do you get you get
false false complaints, you get, uh, you get people with
mental illnesses, right that that might totally believe what they
saw or whatever happened. So going there, you know, being
the responding officer or the officer doing the report, taking

(01:56:52):
the report, getting the information, you kind of have to assess,
you know, the person's uh mental faculty, they're kind of
if you're cognitive, and then you know, consider alternative explanations
and and really just just look at the whole picture,

(01:57:12):
you know, and even after even after that, you know,
there's some things that have happened out there that that
you just can't explain.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
Interesting. I never even thought about that, because, uh, it
kind of discredits the sighting or whatever. If they send
a rookie out. That's kind of crazy. By the way, David,
if you're coming I've had this happen to me twice.
You're coming down with a cold. Just you have a
camera switch, you can hit your camera, you can cut

(01:57:42):
your mic, you can blow your nose and come right. Sure,
we all said cold, it's that season.

Speaker 9 (01:57:49):
It's that time of year for sinuses, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Whatever, Yeah, just take care of yourself, don't worry about it. Uh,
this is a it's a it sucks. It's a live show.
But man, I've had to do this cold with the
flu with cold. Yeah, so don't worry about it. Okay.
So somebody had a question and it was about have

(01:58:14):
you ever report of somebody hitting a big with a
car or vehicle?

Speaker 9 (01:58:19):
I have, but I don't know, no, I have not.
I have not where the police departments I worked at
were we're cities. That's more akin to like the sheriff's department,
state police where they go, where they go out into

(01:58:42):
the highways that go out into the woods, stuff like that.
I'm in Michigan. I don't know if you knew or not,
but I'm in Michigan and I've spent probably since twenty fourteen,
I spent a lot of time in northern Michigan and
in the Upper Peninsula in the woods. I height backpack,
camp off grid and research in the woods at night

(01:59:09):
A lot of times, even alone. I've run across the
bear probably the last four times I've been up north
out in the woods road in this uh state park,
and there's cats out there. I've recorded mountain lions.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
UH.

Speaker 9 (01:59:28):
And you know, the bears don't really the bears really
don't scare me. Much the cats. They will if they're hungry,
they will stop you and they they will attack you
with hungry much more.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Michigan is rot with cougars. Cougars in Michigan. I saw
one near Escanaba on the road. It was amazing, first
cougar I'd ever seen. I was like, whoa, it was Michigan.

Speaker 9 (01:59:59):
And in large one at that. But you know that
doesn't the bear bears in the woods, they don't scare me. Cats,
okay a little bit, not even bigfoot. But what really
scares me in the woods is the guy to conouns
it with the acts. That's what really scares me in

(02:00:20):
the woods exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Yeah, yeah, have you had have you had any kind
of personal experience with a bigfoot anything?

Speaker 9 (02:00:35):
Yeah? In twenty eighteen, that's actually how I met dal
Isabella from Michigan. They quote report and data.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
Sure.

Speaker 9 (02:00:45):
I was traveling back home near an Arbor, Michigan. And
it was late it was November, probably about this time
of year actually, and I was driving. It was dark
at night. It was gosh, it was about eleven thirty

(02:01:06):
at night, and I took a side road I usually
wouldn't have taken. Why, I don't know. I ended up
on this road. But it was I turned on this
road and you know, you get down roads and you
have people like with barn lights on and house lights
on and stuff. Everything was just dark. And the thing,

(02:01:26):
it just seemed like I drove off of a page
of reality somehow into this other place. And it was
there was a little bit of night light peeking in
through the trees, so things were backlit just a little bit.
But I went down this road and I dassed houses

(02:01:48):
and then a line of trees and there was a
house and there was a tree. It was probably about
sixty feet from the road, and next to this tree,
something was standing. There was between seven and eight feet tall.
It had no neck, it was darker than black, and
whatever it was, its arms hung down almost to its knees,

(02:02:12):
and it had blazing red eyes. And those eyes it
was terrifying. It's like it kind of trade. It's like
it was projecting here onto me. That was not my own.
You know, I had been a street cop for ten years.
I'd been in car chases, I've been in bar fights
with bite gangs, and heck, I've been shot at, but

(02:02:36):
that was it was really terrifying, and it took about
twenty seconds for me to register what I just saw.
And I was down the road, wasn't I didn't fall asleep.
I would wreck the car. So it took about twenty
seconds and we even to register what what I just saw.

(02:02:59):
And then I came up to a t in the
road at the road dead ended, and I had sitting
there at the sign and I'm deciding, well, whether whether
I should go back or not. And I decided, well,
maybe I should count my blessings and just keep going
because if I go back, I don't know what's going
to happen. But I know what I saw. I saw

(02:03:22):
what I saw. I know what I saw. It wasn't
a it was not a hallucination. It was not a dream,
nothing like that. And I can't explain what it was,
but I know what I saw. And after that I
had reached out to Alzabella and talked to him and

(02:03:43):
we've had a very good friendship ever since. He's a
very good man.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Yeah. Yeah, was there any eyeshine? Did you notice.

Speaker 9 (02:03:59):
No eye shine? And it was like almost by aluminescent,
it was. It was it was blazing almost like I think,
you know, I I in researching I saw like images
of Momo and Missouri Monster, and it seemed to be
a lot like that. And it literally they were blazing

(02:04:20):
red eyes and I can't explain, I can't explain.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
It like till it's on the car that bright.

Speaker 9 (02:04:28):
Yeah, that right, that right, And.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
No mistaken, this is not a reflection there creating there.

Speaker 9 (02:04:38):
There was, there was, There was nothing there to reflect.
There was nothing it was. It was in this It
was in the middle of the yard, and I don't
think it could have been anything lighted. I I did
not see any movement. So there's always the thing of
it being a stationary object that I had missed identified,

(02:05:00):
but I don't think so. It was. It was a
three D It was a three dimensional object. It was
a three D thing, and it looked alive. Again. It
was backlit against the night sky, and it was darker
than black, almost like it was sucking in the light.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
Like black, like vant to black. What do they call that?
Vanta black where it's blacker than black?

Speaker 9 (02:05:30):
Right, exactly exactly. So you know, I don't know what
it was. I know what happened, though, And as a cop,
you know, you see things. A lot of cops see
things out there that they can't explain, and you know,
you don't talk about it. You see like people at
c UFOs and stuff in law enforcement, you know, you

(02:05:52):
tell anybody anything like that, uh there there, your career
is over, basically. So there's a lot of cops out
there that have a lot of stories as to things
that they've seen in their careers that that are pretty
fantastic that they can't explain.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
So Jim Zachman asked, didn't move at all? Was there
any movement of this?

Speaker 9 (02:06:21):
I saw it for about four and a half seconds,
and during the time I saw it, I was moving right,
so the perspective changes. So if it was moving, if
it was moving slightly, I would not have been able
to tell it was moving because I was moving. But

(02:06:42):
it like it there. There wasn't any large movements or
anything that I could tell. So, but I believe it
to have been a real, a real three dimensional thing
whatever whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
You call that a rate and put it in a percentage.
Do you think it was a big foot and that
would be your high percentage of what it was, or
do you think it could have been something else?

Speaker 9 (02:07:10):
I don't know, you know, I thought about that for
a long time and even researched it after that. And
one thing that I did research was the archangel Azrael,
you know, and descriptions that that are given to two
different things like that. And I think maybe it was

(02:07:34):
maybe paranormal as much, if not more than physical, And
I think it was physical. Coming right back to it,
I think it was physical.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
It's pretty crazy, pretty crazy. Now, I know you sent
Jeff some materials. I don't even know. We hadn't even
had time to even find out what you sent Jeff.

Speaker 8 (02:07:58):
I tell my phone here I did. I didn't get
it all uploaded. Oh okay, what what I What I've
got here though, What I but I'd love to talk
about is the Dennis Ovans stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
If you can.

Speaker 8 (02:08:11):
That's that's pretty interesting.

Speaker 9 (02:08:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's sure.

Speaker 8 (02:08:14):
Your theory about the Dennis Ovans.

Speaker 9 (02:08:16):
Yeah, it's it's really interesting. If you can pull up
any of those slides. I don't know. I know I
was trying to send them to you, uh after we
dealt with our tech issues and everything.

Speaker 8 (02:08:28):
But yeah, I got them on my phone. I just
I didn't have time to get them all up onto
my computer here.

Speaker 9 (02:08:33):
But I got something that's okay, that's okay, we will
we'll go with what we got right, so I won't.
I've researched several things, probably over the last forty years.
UFOs I first learned about from the Roswell disclosure in

(02:08:56):
nineteen seventy eight. Stanton Friedman, right, My dad told me
about that, and it got me interested in it. I
couldn't read enough about it, you know. I got every
book I could, and then I delved into like ancient civilizations.
From there I found a really amazing book. It was
called Atlantis the Antediluvian World by Ignacious Nominally I believe

(02:09:20):
it was in eighteen ninety something, the late eighteen hundreds,
which is an amazing book. It's not so much about Atlantis,
but it's about the theory that there was previous civilization.
And he goes Ignatious Nominally goes in and very convincingly
makes arguments as to megalithic structures all around the world

(02:09:44):
being similar, like pyramids, languages being similar, words and languages
from a parts of the other sides of the world
being similar. All the way down to seriology, which is
the study of props, and the fact that crops have
been engineered that would have taken tens if not hundreds

(02:10:08):
of thousands of years. So and you know, with that
whole theory comes even recent scientific discoveries in Africa of
Homo sapiens like we exist, Homo safety and sapiens like
we exist, that we're pretty much as we are three

(02:10:34):
hundred and twenty thousand years ago. So I really think
the reason that we don't have hair, a lot of
body hair anymore, the reason why we cannot digest food
like from the wild anymore like other animals like bears, dogs, whatever.

(02:10:56):
We no longer had the enzymes in our stomachs, you know,
a longer had the hair because we had been domesticated
over at least obviously at least three hundred and twenty
thousand years, but probably at least double that. And there
is much in our ancient history that we don't know about.
So I really studied that a lot, and some things

(02:11:19):
started to come together in regards to some of that.
In two thousand and eight, they found in Denisova, Siberia,
in a cave, they found a pinky bone a infant girl,
and it didn't match any DNA that they knew about.

(02:11:41):
That it was a new species, and they found a
jab on. Subsequently in Southeast Asia that matched the same
DNA profile, and they in China they even found an
entire skull and own species that they called Denisovan because

(02:12:02):
of the cave it was found. And as you see
up there now you see on the left we are
and then on all the way to the right would
the Denisovan skull case. And their brain size was a
lot larger than ours. Uh, they were a lot larger
than us. They were approximately seven to eight feet in height.

(02:12:26):
And they put this in perspective, an average Native American
back then would have been about five foot two. Making
the truth giants back in the day, and even the
Bible says, you know, there were giants in the Europe
in those days, and Native American tribes and all around
the world, all around the world, and our legends of giants,

(02:12:52):
you know, the Nephite, the they exist throughout the world
and they were destroyed in the flood is a great
what is what the Bible says. So I started looking
at all of this and a few things started to
match up into line up. And in America, well, in America,

(02:13:13):
there was twelve eight hundred years ago there was an
event where they believe now that it was a comic
strike that they called it younger, driest impact theory, which
has gained a lot of traction here in the last
few years, and spearheading a lot of the research are
people like Graham Hancock and then Randall Carlson. And I've

(02:13:38):
read Graham Hancock for twenty years at least at least
twenty years, and he is so far he's a journalist.
But my gosh, I thin guy should have an honorary
PhD in anthropology or something with the degree of research
that he's conducted. But the theory is that there was

(02:14:03):
an ancient comment twelve thousand, eight hundred years ago that
came across North America, and just like the comment that
struck Jupiter in nineteen ninety four, I think it was
a shoemaker leading comment broke up into a number of
pieces and if you're if the viewers are that old,

(02:14:24):
you remember watching it on TV, each piece hitting. They
believe that the same sort of thing happened with this
comment twelve thousand, eight hundred years ago, where pieces of
it hit in places such as the middle of Lake
Michigan west of Runnington. They believed that a piece of
the comment hit where Bay City Michigan is now creating

(02:14:47):
the Thumb of Michigan. And the main impact was in Greenland,
and they recently found the crater for that, many many
scientists are there now studying it. They found ejecta from

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the comment as far away as North Carolina. So this
was a big event and and it would have caused
a nuclear winter that lasted for years and years and years,
and there's indication that it caused a climate a climactic

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event that lasted twelve hundred years. Now. Before this, the
ice age in America lasted one hundred thousand years and
we are in right now in interglacial period called the Holacine.
But prior to this, some sweet spots where where the

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where the climate it would have supported the development of
advanced civilizations occurred between one hundred and twenty five thousand
years ago and seventy four thousand years ago when Mounttoba erupted,
and then again about fifty thousand years ago would have
been sweet spots for advanced civilizations to have to have risen.

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So we have a lot of evidence that when the
Denisovans were actually they were in Russia, they spread to
Southeast Asia, and there's a lot of evidence that the
Denisovans actually made it to America. There's between three and

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six percent DNA in Native Americans. Have let me let
me Denis DNA.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Let me just briefly interrupt you. Have we found some
of their skulls, there are quite a few in North America.

Speaker 9 (02:17:04):
To my knowledge, we have not found anything in North America.
There is the mystery of the love Lock Cave. Back
in the eighteen hundreds, the Native Americans giants, the red
haired giants, there were war with the red hair giants
and they chased the last of them into the last
one into a cave in the love a lot of Texas,

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I believe it was, and burnt the cave and filled
the giant and apparently one of the Native Americans had
passed down to them a garment made with red hair
woven into the garment. But yeah, that is in Native
American war in history. But as far as any bones

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in America, no, But what we do have in the
eighteen hundreds, we have stories in the newspapers that giant
skeletons uncovered all over South Ohio, Southern Ohio, Cincinnati, southern Indiana, Missouri,

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and they were they were uh found quite regularly, but
the Smithsonian always came in and took them and uh
never to be heard from again. Now, in terms of
them getting to America, to the Americas, there's the Clovis

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first theory, which means that they came over the baring
straight land bridge. But the DNA would indicate that they
ended up in Panama and in Peru before that, and
they likely came through Mexico to southern UH to UH
southern United States. And just before this younger Drias event happened,

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these Denisovans that were seven and eight feet tall were
all over North America and they were I believe, I
believe they were the same one and the same as
the Clovis culture in the wholesome cultures. And you know,
so we have the we have the common impact, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:19:16):
And we have.

Speaker 9 (02:19:19):
Places like the Serpent Mound in Ohio. Okay. If you
look at the Laurentide ice sheet, it extended h just
past Columbus, Ohio, Okay, So it the the Serpent Mound
stood right on the edge of it stood right on
the edge of the ice sheet. And more so than that,

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the Serpent Mound is located within a three hundred million
year old meteor crater, and how did they know about that?
But the Serpent Mound is pointed direct towards Lake Michigan,
and I believe they say the Adena culture made it.

(02:20:08):
I believe it goes way beyond that. And they've radiocarbon
dated it and everything. And obviously I've been to it
several times, and it's only about three feet high, and
obviously it's been rebuilt several times. But it's pointed towards
Lake Michigan, and I believe that it is a It

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commemorates the younger, driest impact event that occurred in Michigan
with part of the part of the comet, and that
if you look at the Serpent mound, it's a serpent
and it has an egg in its mouth, and then
you see the serpent's body. I believe that the egg

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and the mouth of the serpent is the comet, and
then the rest of the body of the serpent is
actually the tail of the comet that is being depicted.
So at the top you see the egg, and at
the bottom you see you know, you see the rest
of the tail of the comment, and you know, Randy, Randy,

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the distance is about three hundred and twenty miles away,
it would have been a spectacular thing to see such
an impact. They could have been knocked off their feet
by the air blast, but at the very least, you know,
the sky glowed for days. The eject that came down
around them. It was a significant event.

Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
I believe.

Speaker 9 (02:21:33):
I believe that this is what the serpent mom is depicting.
And again just right at the edge of the ice sheet.
And so the belief is what caused the major flood
was that the eject that caused major forest fires and
the ejecta superheated the ice sheet and caused it to

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begin melting uncontrollable. And after the event, there's evidence that
people had to seek shelter for like twelve hundred years.
And we run into places like Rebecley Tepi in Turkey
that tells us of such a catastrophe twelve hundred years

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ago did occur, and they actually have something that is
called the Vulture Stone. I think it's pillar forty three
that has the star alignments that is basically a date
stamp as to when this happened. And then we have
less than one hundred miles away a place called darren Kuu, Turkey,

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which is an underground city that can hold perhaps ten
thousand people. And they have places for stables for animals,
They have wells. They even were able to get oil
from the ground and and uh light up the place
with air shafts everything. And just not in Darren Free, Turkey,

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but all over the world, Southeast Asia. Uh, there's one
in Vietnam, Taiwan, China, France. Uh, there's one in Italy,
Sicily and and other places Peru. And according to Native

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American legend Kope Indians America Southwest, we're we're in our
fourth world now and the previous world was destroyed by
a flood and they were taken underground by what they
called the ant people. There we go the hand the

(02:23:48):
famous handbag, and they were taken underground by what they
called the ant people. Uh to survive the cataclysm, and
they emerged into this world previous cataclysm, from the confluence
of Colorado River in the Grand Canyon. And it's very

(02:24:10):
coincidental that part of the Grand Canyon now is off limits.
And there was a gentleman by the name of G. E.
Kincaid in nearly nineteen hundreds that had gone to Grand
Canyon and he was prospecting for gold before the government
made the area off limits and found a very large

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cave system. He reported like the Egyptian artifacts there and
writing that he didn't know what civilization it belonged to.

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
But then the.

Speaker 9 (02:24:45):
Government then the government made everything off limits. But okay,
so we have that going on. We have evidence that
we have evidence that the Dennis Sylvans were in fact
in the United States and places like White Sands. Right,
there's footprints that are fossilized. I believe they're twenty two

(02:25:09):
thousand years old. So the Younger Dryest event made all
of the megafauna, megafauna being large an news real extinct
such as the wooly mammoth, such as the sabertooth tiger,
the giant ground sloth, the short nose bear, and others.

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The extinct, as well as the clobus people almost went
entirely extinct. And there's one of the slides it shows
the dispersal of the wholesome and clobus people who were
all over the United States Midwest and east, and after

(02:25:53):
the event, it's believed that they all moved southwest to
get away from to get away from the catastrophe, and
they had all but died out. But what if you know,
here we have the species, the Denisovans. We we can
show to their DNA. They were here, They were seven

(02:26:18):
to eight feet tall, they were probably just as they
were probably just as hairy as neanderthals Homo floriensis or
or other such species, and they had big feet. So
as a as a criminal investigator retired, to me, denis

(02:26:41):
would be a suspect that I cannot rule out, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
Look say, let me interrupt just for a second. I
think that's what Jeff Meldrum had kind of turned to
also the same, a similar theory. I don't know if
he talked about it publicly he did, but he was
kind of edging towards the same theory.

Speaker 9 (02:27:07):
Yeah, and Jeff and doctor Meldrim. I don't want to
call him Jeff because he's doctor Meldrum and he earned
that doctorate, and he certainly was one of the kind
and irreplaceable. But we we had spoken about we had
spoken about just that more than once actually, And so

(02:27:28):
so here we have a prime suspect, you know, so
Gigantopithicus versus a denisovan or and another as yet unknown
species that that even more accurately fits the bill. And
you know, aren't we all biologically speaking, aren't we all

(02:27:49):
all into the primate family? So and and people who
have had big foot encounters a lot of times they
come back and they say the scene looked very very human,
which would fit the Denis theory.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
Okay, the dens were they uh kind of proven to
be that tall? Or is it controversy, Like there's a
big controversy about Giganto. Was it upright in all fours?
Is there any controversies that surround uh these creatures?

Speaker 9 (02:28:27):
So, yeah, they know that the Denisovans blocked up right,
and they yeah, they have they have teeth, They have
a jawbone and the teeth. There's a picture somewhere there, Jeff,
if you could put it up, would be amazing. There's
a teeth. Their teeth are about twice the size is
our teeth. The jawbone, the skulls, everything is much larger.

(02:28:50):
And if you extrapolate their size compared to our size,
they probably went seven or eight feet. Uh would be
a very good it would be a very good educated gas.

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
So yeah, one of our one of our viewers in chat,
I can't read it because my eyes are so crappy,
but it's a oh Amy had mentioned that they had
inherited a gene that allowed them to also deal with
high altitudes, which is really interesting because I always talk

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about these things being made so well. Their their gate
to be able to walk up mountains.

Speaker 9 (02:29:34):
Exactly made for it. She's exactly right. And they found
this gene in the native population in the Hias and
also in Peru on the Alto Planel where like Puma
Punku is in these other places where where because of

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this gene, people can follerate.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
You see it. Look at the molar there. That's word.
I mean, that's massive compared to the human.

Speaker 9 (02:30:10):
They were a lot bigger than us.

Speaker 1 (02:30:13):
How do you have any idea. I've never seen a.

Speaker 9 (02:30:17):
And here's the here's the skullcase for us on the
left and them on the right. But but yeah, again
getting back to the getting back to the altitude thing.
People like in the Himalayan, the natives and Himalaya and

(02:30:37):
also the native culture in Peru that lives by Lake
tit Paca, they they have the gene and and they
can tolerate very well the high the high altitudes. So
she's she's absolutely right that that's correct and a very
good point made. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
That's kind of amazing. I did not know they were
that big though. I mean even the skull doesn't do it.
But you see the tooth. That's like, uh okay, I
get it. Now made my light bulbs go off.

Speaker 9 (02:31:12):
The tooth did it for me? Get really good?

Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:31:17):
Now this is just a theory, the same as gigantopithicus
or or or the portal, the portal theory, the interdimensional theory.
It's just another theory.

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
But I believe.

Speaker 9 (02:31:28):
What I believe. They all deserve serious scientific inquiry and study,
legitimate study.

Speaker 1 (02:31:39):
So I have a question I need to ask you,
because if I forget it, I'm going to kick myself.
Have we have we extracted ancient DNA from any of
these teeth or any of the fossils left by these
very large hominids?

Speaker 9 (02:31:56):
Yes, yes, we had the DNA and again the DNA.

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
So is it because yeah, maybe we can compare because
I'm doing a bunch of DNA studies right now. Yeah yeah,
maybe that could be compared to this creature. So I'm
taking big notes here.

Speaker 9 (02:32:16):
I have I have spoken to a pH d doctor
who has run UH supposed alleged suspected. And you say
that not because not because you're you're doubting the credibility
of the witnesses or the evidence. You say it suspected
until you can positively identify it right scientifically. That's what

(02:32:38):
you do. It's it's it's just language. But this doctor
has run suspected DNA that would come back with markers
that did or did not match Denisova. So and some
of it came back to indicate that the DNA that

(02:32:59):
the doctor retreat did not contain the Denisovan DNA. And
I just I can't wait for the day until some
of some of these samples that are retrieved match the
Denisovan DNA. And what we do know about the Denisovans
they spread throughout UH Siberia to Southeast Asia, Indonesia, UH

(02:33:23):
and the Indonesians made their way to Easter Island and
and all of those UH islands in Micronesia, and then
and then the DNA indicates that they made their way
to Panama, where there is a large amount of Denislovan

(02:33:43):
DNA and natives there who are called the Kuna Indians.
And I've been to Panama on the military plan. And
you know, I you can go see the Kuna Indians,
you buy, you buy stuff from them that they're they're
really cool people. And and but but the natives in
Peru as well, and you know, for the whole Clovis

(02:34:08):
first theory. And I did I measured the distances right
to go from to go from Shanghai Southeast State, just
as a point from Shanghai to go up to Alaska
and then come back down to Arizona and Clovis, New
Mexico would have been about like nine thousand miles right

(02:34:32):
and and you're you would have to go between the
two ice sheets. It's how they think they got there
at a point where the two ice sheets started melting
and it could get between the two. But to me,
it's a lot more likely that they sailed eastward from

(02:34:53):
Micronesia and Easter Island in places like that, and they
landed in Panama and in South America and they made
they made their way north through Mexico.

Speaker 1 (02:35:03):
But you're talking about but you're talking about.

Speaker 9 (02:35:09):
I'm talking about Denisovans.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
You are, okay, So so you're talking about advanced tool use,
advance equipment on making equipment. Bigfoot is not known and
you know, like never reported ever with any tool use exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:35:25):
And when I can tell you there's a few slides there,
Jeff were uh in in uh and the Chinese had
an entire Denisovan skull that sat on a shelf and
they didn't know what it was until like a few
years ago, but they had retrieved a bracelet that looks
maybe a jade looking bracelet that was made, and then

(02:35:47):
another artifact that actually was drilled out and it looks
like a precision drill, So they had tool usage. And
of course, you know, Bigfoot reports did not have reports
of you know, such sophistication. But you know, here's here's
the crux of the whole theory, Doug, is that you know,

(02:36:11):
we had the Younger DRIs impact event, and we know
the Clovis culture was wiped out. So if the Clovis
were in fact Denisovans, they almost went extinct, maybe a
few of them lived. They lost their culture, they lost
their knowledge, and they even lost their language, and they

(02:36:34):
ended up being feral people living in the woods and
they have survived that way since. And there's a there's
a picture of a guy that was found in the
eighteen hundreds if I could get his name here really
really quick.

Speaker 1 (02:36:52):
But David, this is is good of a theory of
courses i've ever heard. It's it's a great theory. It
does fit. There's certain their physical attributes fit really really well.
It's just that, you know, we don't hear about bio
being advanced and using right although Ray Harwood. Ray Harrwood

(02:37:15):
claims that he's found some pretty interesting things in the
forest of showing some kind of tool use.

Speaker 9 (02:37:22):
Yeah, so there's the bracelet that was found with the
Denisovan remains, and and there's another picture there as well,
Jeff right next to it, that one right there.

Speaker 1 (02:37:35):
That's super advanced where.

Speaker 9 (02:37:37):
You know this wasn't made with sticks. So there's There
was a guy in the late eighteen hundreds. His name
was Dina Santa char and he was a fair child rescued.
He didn't livet be too long, but he helped inspire
the movie and the book Jungle Book. It was a

(02:38:01):
real person, and he was a feral person who couldn't speak,
and he had a hard time adjusting to living in
the civilization. And my suggestion is the catastrophe that happened
twelve eight hundred years ago. The people that did survive,
they had to go under ground and live for twelve

(02:38:22):
hundred years. But the Clovis culture, which could have been
the Denosovans, they could have lost their culture, they could
have lost all knowledge, They could have even lost their language,
and it could have been like just pockets of feral
Denosovans trying to exist that has evolved into what we

(02:38:46):
know in I was Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (02:38:48):
And hang on one second, David, Jeff, can you look
up a denos reconstruction, you know, with the hair and whatever,
all the skin, all of the attributes, so we can
put one of those up that might be really cool.

Speaker 9 (02:39:07):
And I have I have, I have a slide. You
like that? And the thing is with that does they
don't know how much hair they really had. They can
only guess as how theory they were. And they're thinking,
we can only we can only guess they had at

(02:39:28):
least as much hair as the Neanderthals and the Hoofuriences.

Speaker 1 (02:39:36):
Hair. Even if they have as much hair as some
of the people I see at Walmart, will be good.

Speaker 9 (02:39:46):
I got I got nothing to respond to that. I
got nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
Whatever.

Speaker 9 (02:39:53):
So I think the theory is as good as any
other theory, and and and they all are worthy of
scientific inquiry. They are all worthy of of They're all
worthy of consideration. And the thing is the scientific establishment academia.

(02:40:22):
Like Jane Goodall, doctor Jane Goodall, we lost her this year.
She was amazing. Yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (02:40:32):
I don't know, that's like, uh, that's kind of the
best I can find. It's perfect.

Speaker 9 (02:40:41):
I don't know male pattern bolvedness going on there exactly exactly,
and you know it could have happened to them. But
you know, if you have more hair, you're gonna have
more hair, more hair to lose. I guess right, what
is it?

Speaker 1 (02:40:55):
Is interesting? The wide set eyes, because that has been
reported a lot. Yes, the wide super interesting, Jeff. And
that's the best you could do. Huh. It's okay.

Speaker 9 (02:41:13):
You'll find something good. You'll find something.

Speaker 1 (02:41:15):
Good right after you'll find it.

Speaker 9 (02:41:20):
So, so what I was saying in terms of scientists
and academia, you know, they depend on grants, of course,
And what would happen to our society of religious beliefs?
What would happen with whatever if it were revealed that
you know, there was a super advanced civilization fifty thousand

(02:41:43):
years ago or one hundred and twenty five thousand years ago.
And and there is there's a temple in in in
uh India, they have you know, stories in the Maha Barat,
they had stories of giants, they have stories of technology,

(02:42:04):
the manas that flew in the sky. But in one
of their temples they have the carving of a mastodon
that has four tusks and they are known to have
gone extinct forty four thousand years ago, So that temple
is at least that carving is at least forty four
thousand years old for somebody to have seen it, to

(02:42:26):
have sculpted it, and like that. Okay. In Lake Michigan,
they have stone what they call the Stonehenge of Lake Michigan.
Before the ice sheet melted and filled in the Great Lakes,
all the Great Lakes were yeah, thank you. All of
the Great Lakes were ponds by comparison, and they had

(02:42:49):
like drive lines of rocks where supposedly they were they
were hunting bison buffalo, I believe, and funneling them into
a kill zone as a hunting technique. But on one
of the rocks it's underwater. In Lake Michigan, I believe

(02:43:10):
it's west of Bloodington, again the same kind of area
where the comet would have landed. Coincidentally, maybe not so coincidentally,
is a picture of a mascodon on on a rock
underwater under Lake Michigan. There it is. And over in
Lake Huron there were some fishermen that they had they

(02:43:34):
had nets out and they brought the nets in they
found these strange pieces of black glass looking material and
they took it and had it checked out and it
was found to be obsidian, used used to make weapons.
And so they so there's no obsidian in the Great

(02:43:58):
Lakes area, you know where they found that. The obsidian
came from Oregon, the state of Oregon. So the Denisovans
or the Clovis, whoever they were, they had they had
a culture that spanned the entire continent that they could
get a cidian to make weapons that ended up in

(02:44:21):
the Great Lakes.

Speaker 1 (02:44:22):
The nearest in North America, I believe is in southern
Mexico or like Belize. I know, Belize has got a
bunch of obsidian.

Speaker 9 (02:44:33):
Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, the state of this. The obsidian from
Lake Huron came back as a match coming from Oregon.
There's there's a slide there that shows that shows the
the the the obsidian pieces and everything. So there was
a lot. There was a heck of a lot going

(02:44:54):
on the Michigan There's no without a doubt. Yeah, I've
I've hiped the Great Lakes areas for years, at least
twenty five thirty years. And you know, I studied geology.
I took one winter and I studied the geology of
the Great Lakes. And I can tell you yeah, obsidian

(02:45:17):
is not native to Michigan or the Great Lakes area now,
although it comes from volcanoes and on the west side
of Lake Superior about five hundred million years ago. I
think there was a Super Bowl game volcano on the
west side of Lake Superior. But no, no, no obsidian.

(02:45:40):
It is found in the Great Lakes.

Speaker 1 (02:45:42):
Have you ever touched that? Crap? It you just cut?
You can cut?

Speaker 9 (02:45:50):
Yeah, you could look at look at it, look at
it exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:45:54):
Yeah, it's crazy. Absolute. Yeah. I handled someone leaves and
I did cut my finger.

Speaker 9 (02:46:01):
On excuse me one second?

Speaker 1 (02:46:06):
Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 9 (02:46:07):
Can you can you pause me for a second?

Speaker 1 (02:46:10):
Ye, there we go. I I just know that that tooth,
that molar that made my light bulbs go off for
some reason.

Speaker 8 (02:46:23):
Sure, again, what I do.

Speaker 1 (02:46:25):
It's just funny how certain things will really make your
light bulb go off. And that tooth did it? Yeah?
What I do with that?

Speaker 8 (02:46:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:46:36):
I got that's fine. I mean you can see it.
It's easily twice as big as a human, easy in
mass and everything. Well, just this picture, but that doesn't
do my light bulbs. Here's here's why we have a
lot of big humans, you know, And that just doesn't

(02:46:57):
Like that could be a young woman the first skull,
and the next one could be a you know, big
guy like Michael Jordan or somebody, you know what I mean.
It's just doesn't It doesn't ring my light bulb. But
the other the other one did. The one, Yeah, that's
the one. I was like, holy crap, you could put

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like three of those teeth.

Speaker 9 (02:47:20):
And bring I am. You bring up a great point, Doug. Okay.
And that is the three samples that we have. We
have a job owned. We have an entire skull from China,
and we have the pinky bone from a an infant
child Denslovan from Denisova cavean in Siberia. And do these

(02:47:42):
bones represent do they represent the median size of this
species here, and what kind of supports that is that
they're found in different locations, one in Indonesia, one in China,
one in Siberia. So the samples are spread out, which
would lend to credibility to the theory that they were

(02:48:06):
all this big and maybe even perhaps bigger.

Speaker 1 (02:48:13):
Another point that I really thought was good at ver
X made he said that since there's none of these,
then a Sylvan skulls found in North America. We haven't
found any Bigfoot skulls either. Maybe it's just in other words,
if they could stay hidden in Olivier without finding bone evidence,

(02:48:37):
then maybe Bigfoot, the modern Bigfoot. There's no reason that
there would be bones of a bigfoot either, that we
would just find bones are not bones, and fossils are
not easy to find because most of all of North
America bones disappear. There's no correct climate for fossilized bones.

(02:49:03):
It takes exactly special, rare circumstances where a bone can
be preserved. Otherwise the porcupines and the mice and the
rats and everything else choose it away. It's gone. It
just gets buried in the forest somewhere.

Speaker 9 (02:49:21):
That's exactly correct. And you know, for just think about
other things that die in the woods. You know, nature
disposes of the bones fairly quickly, within the matter of
within the matter of a few weeks. So unless you're
there right away and you're talking about millions and millions

(02:49:43):
of acres, you know that that you need to find
this one eight eight foot area.

Speaker 1 (02:49:52):
Did you ever see that footage? I did? Worry, took
a deer, cabled it down like with cables so predator
couldn't drag it off, and then put a time lapse
camera on it on a deer carcass to see how
long it would take to disappear in the forest. Did
you ever see that footage? I did.

Speaker 9 (02:50:08):
I have not seen that footage of yours, but they
did show us. And I have worked on a few
homicide cases of lewis an agent, and part of the training,
general training, even for investigators, they teach you things about,
you know, what the body does in terms of decomposition

(02:50:30):
and how long it takes for bodies to decompose under
certain circumstances. And they have a place I forget what
state it's and it's called the body farm, right, and
you can actually donate your body to go to the
body farm. And they test different ways, how long you signed,

(02:50:51):
how long a decomposition actually takes under certain circumstances. So
I have not seen your video. I look forward to
seeing it, and I'm sure it's just very much in
line with just go to.

Speaker 1 (02:51:06):
Monster Quest and look, I'm trying to think which one
it was, but it's in one of the Monster Quest episodes.
I got a pick.

Speaker 9 (02:51:15):
But yeah, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, Doug,
Monster Quest was like one of my favorite, uh cryptid
shows ever. I think it was. It was. It was
well done, beyond anything at the time, in my opinion,
anything since so you did it was an amazing show.

Speaker 1 (02:51:39):
And I I really I put together a hell of
a team. Let me tell you we did it was
it was cool. It was cool.

Speaker 8 (02:51:47):
It really was a great show. I ag.

Speaker 1 (02:51:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, David. I appreciate it. It's
still it's still it's still teaching.

Speaker 9 (02:51:55):
People right yeah, absolutely ever on Prime right now Prime
still one of my still one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (02:52:07):
But yeah, if you be great, if you could find
out what show has got that deer. But it's crazy.
I mean the first you know, the maggots get inside
and they eat it from the inside out, and then
the skin starts getting eaten away by stuff, and then
the bones start getting dragged away by little rats and

(02:52:28):
mice and they chew it for the calcium. You know,
it's it's food, and the bones are food for a
lot of animals. You know, it's certain nutrition. And so
I know for a fact that that never bothers me
the argument why don't we find bones, It's it's not

(02:52:50):
or why don't we find fossils? In fact, I come
back sometimes I go, Okay, believe it or not. We
have fossil evidence of a giant ape lived in Asia.
I'm not saying that's a Bigfoot, but we do have
fossil elevenance of a giant ape that lived in Asia
and that may have crossed the landbridge had access to it.

(02:53:12):
But we don't have any fossil evidence of white tailed deer, uh,
buffalo's we don't. There's a lot of animals black we
have none. Right, so in a way, you could say
we have more fossil elevenence of Bigfoot and none of
any modern animal.

Speaker 8 (02:53:31):
The episode with the decomposing deer is season one, episode
nine on the Swamp Beast, Skunkcake kept skunk ape episode really, remember,
I guess according to Groc.

Speaker 9 (02:53:46):
Excuse excuse me for a second. Excuse me for a second,
Gentleman'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (02:53:51):
Yeah, so yeah, I just I think it was because
Peggy Callahan helped. And that's up at the Carl Avery
And no, I don't think that was. I think Rock's wrong.
Grock was loocinating.

Speaker 8 (02:54:09):
Yeah, it could be. It said it was a time
lap experiment and a deer carcass in swamp conditions.

Speaker 1 (02:54:17):
That could be right. I'll have to check it out.
Can you type that up? Put it in the comments
so people can check and see if Groc is wrong.

Speaker 8 (02:54:26):
Put it put. I'm sorry, I put what in the comments.

Speaker 1 (02:54:28):
The episode numbers season.

Speaker 8 (02:54:36):
Typing that in right now?

Speaker 1 (02:54:37):
Season one thinks Fox, what happened to Boatworm? He just
disappeared on us. Give boat Worm two demerits unless he's
there in the background snoozing. There we go, Well, there
you go, yep, I see it, thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:55:01):
Yeah again, this is according to Groc. I just I
just asked.

Speaker 1 (02:55:03):
I swear to god, we did it in a Minnesota show.
But in other words, we did it. I know we
did the experiment in Minnesota. We did not do it
in Florida that I know, So I don't think I
would have put it in a Florida show. I just
wouldn't have that. I don't. My brain don't work that way.
I don't. I'm not disconnected like that, pretty literal.

Speaker 8 (02:55:27):
I asked again, Yes, it's definitively, it's positive.

Speaker 1 (02:55:31):
It says, uh uh.

Speaker 8 (02:55:34):
Yeah, I said, are you sure? Was there one in Minnesota?
So yes, I'm sure it's definitive. Of the episode nine,
season one, the team sets up a controlled time last
experiment with a fresh deer carcass to demonstrate.

Speaker 1 (02:55:46):
How the hell would A I know that because A
I cannot watch video?

Speaker 8 (02:55:51):
Ah, that said, there is a decomposing deer featured in
a Minnesota film segment of another episode, Season one, episode four, Newton.

Speaker 1 (02:55:59):
Oh, okay, we might have repeated that as like footage
on a later show. Okay, so that's now, it's see now.
So sometimes we did that. If we had another reason
to use that footage again and get double duty out
of it, we would have done that. Yes, that's possible,
but I did it for a Minnesota show. So that

(02:56:22):
was season one really fascinating for Mutant Cane.

Speaker 8 (02:56:26):
It's about DILF like mutants, and I remember that.

Speaker 1 (02:56:30):
I think is Groc is hallucinating, could very well be
as the usual. I don't use rock, that's my favorite.

Speaker 8 (02:56:40):
That's why I seem to get the best results with
that most accurate reasons.

Speaker 1 (02:56:43):
So we have to pitch my my chat GPT five
against your.

Speaker 8 (02:56:47):
Groc and se well, I have no dog in the fight.

Speaker 1 (02:56:51):
I just get does Groc talk to you or just
it's just tight?

Speaker 8 (02:56:56):
It would, I think if I heard it on, I
don't have that. I don't turn that on. I is
type I just type it in. Yeah, but i'd more,
but I I don't trust. I don't. You can't trust
any AI that it's gonna spit out verbatim truth. You
just they just don't. They're based off of web articles,

(02:57:17):
and they're only as accurate as web articles.

Speaker 1 (02:57:21):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 9 (02:57:23):
All right, Back a little a little bit of a
glitch here.

Speaker 1 (02:57:31):
I like it. It looks like you're about to be
eating it.

Speaker 9 (02:57:35):
Does it does? So yeah, we'll just go with that.

Speaker 1 (02:57:38):
For it's a creature. But a creature, it's a creature.
It's a creature.

Speaker 9 (02:57:42):
Is something going on, that's for sure? So all right,
I think I think it's the Gove trying to shut
me down here or something.

Speaker 1 (02:57:51):
It could be. You know, we gotta we're wrapping up,
we're gonna go. It's ten o'clock. Yeah, and I want
to thank you everybody say it is a really fascinating,
great conversation. Conversation. Obviously you know you're junk. I was
sorry I was taking you all sorts of places, but
the way I am.

Speaker 9 (02:58:10):
It's okay. You you bled, you bled an admirable and
admirable amount of information.

Speaker 1 (02:58:16):
Out of me.

Speaker 9 (02:58:18):
So that you did that, you did so I think.

Speaker 1 (02:58:23):
You've invented something new. Back behind you, David, warning, you
have a portal.

Speaker 9 (02:58:32):
I have got some big foots coming to get me
out of the portal. Right, they're gonna grab me and boom,
going to be gone.

Speaker 1 (02:58:39):
Thank you. By the way, Carl, you need to call me.
Let's see here what else we got. Let's go ahead
and get rid of our untold Wisdom.

Speaker 8 (02:58:50):
Of the Week week.

Speaker 1 (02:58:51):
All right, hang everyone, just hand tight, David.

Speaker 7 (02:58:56):
It's now time for untold Radio Am Wisdom of the Week.
The forest keeps its secrets, but it always leaves clues
for those patient enough to notice them. And let's not
forget it's better to ask an impossible question than accept
an ordinary answer.

Speaker 8 (02:59:13):
Good Night.

Speaker 7 (02:59:13):
We hope to see you all next week. If you
like the show tonight, please consider giving us a thumbs up,
leaving a nice comment, and most of all, subscribing and
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new episode is dropping. Also, please share this episode. Now
back to Doug and Jeff for our wrap.

Speaker 1 (02:59:35):
All right, people are saying Dave needs to come back again, yeah,
and Doug needs to come back here, I am there,
we go, and Carl says, Doug, I'm gonna call you tomorrow.
But people are saying, great to have you, David. We
lost Dave's mike. It looks like, oh, that's fine. He
doesn't need to say anything. You can just wave.

Speaker 9 (03:00:00):
So yeah. Anyway, I think in conclusion, you know, there's
a lot of things that the American public needs to
know they're not being told. I would love to tell
you about stuff like that. Maybe next time, tell you
about this the Secret Space program or Apophae the asteroid
of Pophus coming in twenty twenty nine, both of which

(03:00:22):
the government is in my opinion, not being not being right.

Speaker 1 (03:00:29):
What about this three I at liss is that anything
you're following?

Speaker 9 (03:00:34):
I have and you know, my, my, my best. I
think it would be amazing if we could get something
like the James web Space telescope fast enough to catch
up to this thing and land on it and just
let it go for the next one hundred years and
get images of where it goes. That would be that
would be a really cool thing to do. The three

(03:00:58):
eye at lists absolutely is this proof that you know,
interstellar objects regularly asked through our our solar system, and
we've only recently gotten the ability to detect them. And
obviously it's happened much much more. And here's the thing

(03:01:21):
with three I at list. You know, they still don't
know really how big it is, how how how good?
How good is our science? Guys?

Speaker 1 (03:01:31):
Yeah, exactly on that we were going to depart. I
love that last question. How good is our science? Not
very good? We don't know crap about anything. So with that,
good night, everybody. We'll be back with another good guests,
great guests next Sunday. And to that, everybody, take care,
We love you all, and good.

Speaker 9 (03:01:52):
Night, Thank you guys. I appreciate it, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:02:00):
Of the night.

Speaker 13 (03:02:01):
And bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

Speaker 2 (03:02:05):
You give me comfort, say just give it some time.

Speaker 13 (03:02:08):
By the end of our talk and feeling just fine,
you and our always no will.

Speaker 4 (03:02:16):
We be long.

Speaker 2 (03:02:20):
The sing no ordinarysm We got.

Speaker 4 (03:02:23):
Go in all. I'll pick you up in a fifteen
hour ford.

Speaker 13 (03:02:32):
We head on top of the road till we care for it,
just doing the sudden burrowing.

Speaker 9 (03:02:40):
If the eracious, dop.

Speaker 4 (03:02:41):
Call able head on home again. Everybody else can't see
when we be long in ordinary ism. We got go
in all at the end of the world together forever

(03:03:02):
it is one and obbay.

Speaker 13 (03:03:04):
If ever you should be in town and obray.

Speaker 9 (03:03:08):
We never compoon us a far.

Speaker 4 (03:03:11):
In allway for the time we would made together every day,
but it never would be less straight up all way
back home to.

Speaker 1 (03:03:26):
You workin.

Speaker 4 (03:03:45):
At the end of the world.

Speaker 13 (03:03:47):
Together forever small than our way. If ever you should
be in town and Aubrey. They never compose a part
in lorway.

Speaker 4 (03:04:00):
At the end of the world together.

Speaker 13 (03:04:04):
Forever respond and always they never we should be in
down and out grays.

Speaker 4 (03:04:11):
They never was a part in all the way all
the time when we be together, we never retain a hondos.
They never would be less faith than up found.

Speaker 1 (03:04:26):
The way back go to you or again

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