Untold Radio AM #273 The Bigfoot and Terrifying Dogman Enigma with Jay Fountain and Nick Valente

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Tonight's guest or Chase, looking.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Back on the life that you leave him, then resting
only in the crowd. Stick around through the crag.

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The feeling go the fire.

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You'll be dancing around.

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Only here is the sound of.

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The tree, and no one cares where he's coming from.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
My ears are still ring and feeding.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I guess we are knew from the start the days not.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know, one of these days be the world.

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You're looking for? Answer?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
What it sass?

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My cost, my cost.

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Leading, the fuse of the ashes, the spirits that after
I'm looking down the house.

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Who're life? From the Untold Radio Network.

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It's Untold Radio Am with Monster.

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Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co host Jeff Parrella Junior.

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Untold Radio Am is going.

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Live right now. This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep,

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that's the ticket. Now Here are your Untold Radio Am
hosts Doug high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hello Ontoldian, Hello, how you doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Everyone? Yes, let's see all there.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You know my my brilliant co host Jeff Corella Junior,
Big regu.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, that's a long on this Pearl Harbor Day, December seventh, Yes,
It is also my mom's birthday, Happy Birthday, Mom.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Wasn't there? Isn't there a different name for today?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Is it Little Harbor Remembrance Day?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is that the name? I thought there was a nickname
for it too.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
There might be. I just I think it's just Pearl
Harbor Remembrance Day.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, that was quite a day that started World War Two.
And let's see what do we got? Uh, We've got well,
we've got a lot of people in the audience already.
We have but Worm, but we don't only need but Worm. Yeah,

(03:19):
Mary Joe and Tennessee and Kenny has and David Dominique,
who else? I don't know. I can't I can't read
hers is here moderator, but butt Worm is the moderator too.
And fear of the moderators, we owe them, We do

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all with them a lot. Okay, So yeah, tonight, I
think we have a pretty powerful line up on our show.
We have two seasoned for tea and researchers, Jay Fountain
and Nick Valente, and we're gonna dive deep into the darker,
more chilling corners of the Bigfoot in the dog Man Mystery.

(04:04):
We get their insights, so you're not gonna want to
miss that coming up. And before we do that, we've
got weird and fast news or is it fast and weird.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Weird and fast, weird and fast?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, good? The weird fact of the week, which is
a fast that's a jaw dropper. Tonight the fact of
the week. We got my favorite clip picks audience trivia,
very very cool tech breakdown that will give you, uh
something to maybe ask for from your significant other for

(04:37):
Christmas from Santa.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, yeah, I know, I bring it to you.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
What else we have? Well, let's say, I mean, just
go ahead and turn your danging lights down, get comfortable,
grab a warm drink.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Toddy, sure, why not?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Uh hot choc, wrap a blanket around you, and let's
let's go with this fast and weird or weird and
fast whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
To guard and fast. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's time for weird and fast news. That was a
really weird and fast bumper, fast bumper great number one
word and fast news is a new DNA study finds
a feral dogs near chair noble are genetically distinct. And

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now it's evolution and action, I guess by radiation, right, Yeah.
Scientists recently compared DNA of three hundred and two feral
dogs living near Chair Noble in the exclusion zone and
apparently dogs that are living only like within dead miles,

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and found significant genetic differences between the populations. One, I
would imagine if they're feral, right, they're not domesticated anymore,
no one's caring for them. And two, obviously the radiation.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Who knows, and they may not know.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It says, well, the study stops short of definitively trying
to figure out these differences or attribute them to the
radiation exposure. Researchers considered a very strong sign that these
dogs may be evolving or at least adapting to survive
in the radiated harsh environment. It says, the findings feed

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into a broader conversation about life can adapt and possibly
thrive under extreme stress and of course post apocalyptic event.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Right, Yeah, it's interesting. Charnel is interesting. The plants there,
the vegetation there's already adapted and it's eaten up a
lot of the radiation. The radiation is significantly lower, right
than predicted, because the atmosphere, the and the vegetation is
just kind of absorbing it. Nature finds a way.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, and I was reading about the giant catfish in
that area. Yeahhyl they've grown to just two hundred pound size.
If you can imagine a catfish two hundred pounds, all right.
Next number two strange orange lights over. I call these pink.
They call them orange. Strange orange lights over Queensland sparks

(07:37):
UFO debate. And you can see this amazing illustration there.
That's exact, precise, that's precise. There's no doubt, like.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I see a bat with five legs there.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, and it's tongue sticking out. Residents near uh brew
Yore brew Yard our state forests in Queensland, Australia, have
recently reported unusual glowing orange lights hovering and dancing above
the forest. No sound, the tra direction, trajectory, or visible source.

(08:16):
Some local authorities claim the lights are military flares, while
witnesses argue the timing and behavior do not add up.
Uh The event has reignited UFO speculation in the region,
especially with the holidays season, bringing renewed interest in unexplained
sky phenomena. Why does the Why would the holiday season suddenly?

(08:41):
Were they looking for Santa Claus? I guess says the
lights odd behavior forming patterns like triangles and so forth. Blinking,
hovering do not resemble typical flares or aircraft behavior. For now,
it remains unsolved. And speaking of that, I just had
an airline pilot send me some footage out of the

(09:05):
cockpit that's, you know, very similar, really interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
What's going on all over strange stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yep. And then we have another brand new jaguar living
in Arizona, number five. So we have five jaguars living
in Arizona. That's that's like amazing to me. Yeah, says
Researchers in southern Arizona recently captured on trail camera footage

(09:32):
of a previously unrecorded jaguar, now dubbed jag number five.
This marks only the fifth documented jaguar in the region
in the past fifteen years. Jaguars will be in a Noka,
Minnesota probably within a year. Well, I would crap my
pants at my son.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, cougar, we're talking about this cougar is making a
comeback in Minnesota to another one was spotted up into
looth Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, you had about one hundred people send me that link.
They're going to answer every one of them.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Thanks, But anyhow, and conservationists say it could signal a
slow return of the species to parts of its its
historic range. Biologists are now analyzing scat samples to determine
the animal sex, the diet, and hell, that's enough of that.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Have you been hoarding scat samples?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Check war crap and old three I atlas nothing to
do with scat samples, No, no, big universe, universe. The
latest interstellar visitor raises again new questions. So still being studied. Well,

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live at drawing man, It's just oh, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's cool. GREEI atlas, Our latest interstellar visitor raises new questions.
The interstellar say at least they're calling it a common.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now through time.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Through our solar system recently continues to fascinate scientists. New
observation show the comment remains active with dramatic ice jets
ice jet emissions as sunlight heats its surface. This behavior
is reigniting debate about the object's origin. Some researchers, including

(11:25):
prominent voices like auvi Lobe, suggest three I at lists
might even be an artificial probe rather than a natural comment,
though mainstream science hasn't accepted that hypothesis, Yet, whether natural
or artificial, three eye at lists remains a rare chance
to study material from beyond our solar system, offering clues

(11:49):
about alien star systems composition. Blah blah blah blah blah.
See do I go into that blah blah blahah. Yeah,
very I'm sure people were happy about that ending. And
number five Apparently Australia's desert water holes harbor rare tough

(12:11):
life that's under threat. Everything's under threat in the arid
center of Australia's hidden rock holes filled with the rainwater
after rainfall tell like our potholes season after rainfall season.
And the apparently team with strange, hardy freshwater animals, tiny plants,

(12:35):
surprisingly full of life despite the harsh desert surroundings. These
they're calling these micro oases, and they show how life
adapts under extreme conditions. Many species have evolved to survive
long routes high heat by resting dormant, drying up until
water returns. But no one knows how human encroachment will

(12:59):
affect these fragile pockets. So there you go. They're studying
the holes. I have a feeling that the whole we're
showing might be a little.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Big Yeah, it's not an actual photograph.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, no, it's not. All right, six decades old UFO
clues resurface with possible links between nuclear tests and UFO setting.
So I thought we knew about this a long time ago.
I don't know, old is new always. Researchers analyzing seventy

(13:39):
year old astronomical photographs have identified unexplained bursts of light
near mid century nuclear testing sites. So apparently they're looking
at the old films and photographs now looking for UFOs. Interesting, like,
no one's ever done that, right, rigniting speculation that some

(13:59):
uf BOTH sightings could relate to nuclear activity or followed.
I thought that was already concluded. Well, the findings still
confirm alien visitation. They add serious data of ongoing UAP
nuclear connection. So and I can do a lot of
blah blah blahs after that one.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, a lot of evidence of that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, they say it's significantly important because there was no
digital manipulation back, right, So if you're looking at old
film footage, it's important.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I guess, yeah, yeah, yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
It be faked, all right, then we have our weird
fact of them of the weird It really is weird,
extra weird tonight weird fact oh the week.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That is kind of weird, super weird.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
All right, So here it is. So did you know?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And I bet you never heard of this either, Joe,
I did not know. This as interesting as that.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
The Moon actually has a tail. The Earth passes through
it every month, So there's a tail coming off the Moon.
So here we go. Most people think only comets have tails,
but the Moon has one too, a gigantic, semi invisible
tail full of sodium atoms stretching more than two point

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nine million miles into space. Here's the weird part. Got
to add the word weird, right, Every month, for a
few days, Earth actually passes through this ghostly lunar tail.
So when the sun Sun's radiation hits the Moon, it
knocks loose tiny sodium particles from the surface, and these

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particles create a long comet like tail that streams away
from the Moon. You in, so I and I wrote
the dates down, it says, so I, investigating the article,
didn't mention that, like, you know, when does this happen?
It says, when the Earth drips through the tail that
sodium adams can act like, or it can be detected

(16:18):
in our atmosphere as a faint yellow glow, almost like
the moon is dusting the Earth. Okay, and you cannot
see it with your own eyes. You have to have
special instruments. But it happens like it's going to happen
between January fourth and fifth this year, Okay, right after
the full moon. So right after the full moon is
when it kind of happens. So so Jeff, your assignment.

(16:44):
Get a mason jar, stand outside in the middle of
the street in downtown and and try to catch me
some damn moon dust.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I see, I'll get I'll get going on that.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah please, yeah, we can. We can sell it on eBay.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It says even if the Earth crosses the general tail region,
the detectable interaction depends on conditions like solar wind, earth
atmospheric magnetic field, et cetera. So it's different. Every month
you bring it and we can give it a kid

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to bring to school for show and tell O.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Get right now, well you can just put it in
the jar and tell them that's that. Yeah, actual moon test.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
So let's see. I see, we have a nick of
Valente and Jay Jay. He's gone. He's out wandering the
streets right now.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Cameras left his camera on the checked in.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
They're checked in, but he's wandering the streets alone, cold
in the snow.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
He's collecting sodium from there, he's.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Collecting moondust right now. Anyhow, what do we want to do?
Let's do so that we could do a little bit
of audience trivia.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Sure you can do that.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And because it's.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Now time for untold radio a m audience trivia? Who
wants to play?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Damn it?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
You cut me off if you were done talking?

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You always think I'm done.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I never done.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Somebody wrote me a nasty like you just like that
sound on your own voice? And I'm like, hell no.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I like cutting off the song of your voice. I guessyes,
and you like to cut it off?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Oh so say I? Sharon Vera Ax and Alan and
who else said, of course once again, I have to
side a boat worm every time. So who wants to do?
It's on snow. It's quite interesting see snow snow trivia? Yeah,

(19:09):
I think it's damnager. I did a whod doc on snow,
first one ever been made on snow. I did documentary.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Hell is quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
So who wants to play tonight?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh my god, it's that petition.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
We don't have to have anyone compete.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Weep were like, hell, no, Judy, Judy does I volunteered Judy?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Judy? Okay, who wants to go up against Judy? Not
a contest?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, it's not a contest.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
No wagering.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
St he goes, Okay, anyone else buttworm you can play.
So if it was rain, I'd play. Now you're okay
just because that's smart ass remark. You're in flat flat
and Judy. Yeah, see that's what happens when you're smart enough. Okay,

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warm up question? What is the coldest temperature ever recorded
on Earth? Is that A minus seventy two degrees fahrenheit
B one hundred and twenty eight degrees that one twenty
eight point six degrees below zero or one hundred and
two degrees below zero? So E, B, C or D

(20:49):
or no? Where did I get D? Just mean D
up aby or C seventy two one hundred and twenty
eight or one hundred and two below zero?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Flat, said A, and Mary said B. And look at
the right one here waiting for Judy. Yep, up, Judy,
there we go. Judy's right, minus quin six fahrenheit or
minus eighty nine point two celsius. That is cold. Yeah,

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Ross Stock station in Antarctica in nineteen eighty three. Good lord,
that's cold.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, that's that's good. I can't even comprehend that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Actually, the coldest I've ever experienced actual temperature was forty
nine below. And there's forty five or forty nine below
when I was a kid, and that was just unbelievable. Yeah,
up and hitting. Its ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
You haven't been the same since.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They actually canceled school, which up in Hiving, a snow
day is pretty rare. Otherwise they wouldn't have school all
summer or all the winter. Excuse me, but yeah, I
remember actually being a snow day. It was like forty
five or something like that. Mid forties below is crazy.
All right, next question on all right? Moving on, what

(22:11):
is the term for snow that has been melted and
refrozen into hard icy grains? Is it called powder snow?
Is it called how do you pronounce number b? Is
that may? Would that be mayve?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's all right, neve nevee. It's a French name or gropple.
So is it powder, snow, neve or gropple the term
for snow that has been melted and refrozen into little
icy grains. So you you watch the thing here, Brad.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Right, it's from him and he yeah, he knows what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
So I delivered the mill in sixty wind childs don't count, Brendan.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's still pretty dang cold.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That doesn't count. It's a non counter. That's just how
fast you cool?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
So it's like, yeah, flat, said b.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
And he is right? What did.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Judy said?

Speaker 7 (23:20):
Ed? C?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Oh, So wonder one?

Speaker 7 (23:25):
All right?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Which country holds the record for the deepest annual snowfall
ever measured in a single season? Is it Canada? A? Japan? B?
Or Norway? C? Which country holds the record for the
deepest annual So it's so it's snow to get the
whole year Canada, Japan and normally.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Deepest annual snow? Yeah, that's wild. Try I play our
trim music.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Sure, please you keep that crap low.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's true on here all right? Here is that low enough?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (24:18):
All right?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is Japan flat? They both educated? Right, you guys are
tied tied one and one.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Don't be looking this crap up. It could work against you. Yeah,
because if somebody answers first. Actually, that's what we should
do from now on. Okay, see, this is what we do.
We changed the rules.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
We go because it's a contest.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's not a contest and I'm not sending a prize,
so we change the rules.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
So Flat actually had it first.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
If you want to, Oh no, I didn't change the
rules then now yet, Oh my god, this is like
play very strict non rules because it's not cont This
is like plain monopoly with your family, no things, making
up rules, just make up rules?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Okay? Okay? What a scientist called snowflakes at form when
super cooled water droplets freeze onto a falling ice crystal.
Is it called frost stars a rhyme, snow b or
crystal bloom?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
See?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
What does scientist called snowflakes at form when super cooled
water droplets freeze into a falling ice crystal. I thought
that's how all snow was done? But whatever, uh genesis? Ay, okay, Judy,

(26:01):
you are wrong and you're disqualified from that question. Another
new rule? What a flat say? Can you say anything?
I'm disqualifying you too flat because you're taking too damn long.
It's the rules. Yeah, it's the new rules us options.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, where were you too bad?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Too bad? In fact, just for fun, I'm giving that
one to judyative point.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Where were you flat? All right? Uh? In an avalanche science?
An avalanche science, what is the weak sugary snow layer
that collapses and triggers many avalanches? Then I watch them
do that. They go up and they take a stick
and they measure the you know, the the snow layers.

(26:59):
To me, sure there is a week layer in there,
and if there is, there's going to be an avalanche.
So is it called a dry back B depth horror?

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
H o R thanks see snow crust D drive back
B depth horror or C snow crust the weak layer
in the snow.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Depending how you spell that, it could be something very different.
Well yeah, uh, says by right away, with B the
correct answer the depth or so that puts Judy three
to one.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, no, four to one, I get, no, four to two.
Remind me you never have you ever be a judge
in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, I didn't give any points when they both tied.
You gave a point to both.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, yeah, that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Okay, so four to two. I get it now that
the new updated rules to our.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Rules as of Yeah right, it's constantly changing. Okay. What
rare snow phenomena occurs when electrical fields make flakes glow
faint blue or green as they fall. Are they called
ice halos snow luminescence or cryo flash a B or

(28:27):
c ice halos snow luminescence or cryo flash. It's a
rare phenomena that occurs when electrical fields make flakes glow.
But you never heard of that, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I've never seen that, and I've seen an awful lot
of snow.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And when your snow glows run, So let's see.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Just look at other people question. You said B snow snow,
snow luminescence a rock. You are wrong, Sir. Judy's right
with B. So that's puts Judy at five to two.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh gee, I want to do one more. I'm going
to do one more. I see Darryl Den's here, Hi, Darryl.
We got Darryl coming on pretty soon. I think, uh,
I can't remember if it's yeah, it's coming out maybe
even next week. No one told Darrell he was coming on.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Surprise.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's how we roll. We tell people, we don't. We
don't ask him, We just tell him. Uh yeah, chair
normal snow. Carl says, Okay, I lost my place. What
is the what's the name of the specially compacted snow

(29:55):
that iny wit hunters use to build structural blocks for
egg loose? Is it called a firth snow? B uh
pooh pooh cock snow poo cake? Did I say that wrong?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Best to not dwell on that one too, not dwelling.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Or the wind slab for snow poo cake snow or
wind slab. I don't know how to pronounce it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, Cay goes.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's like changing the rules every two minutes.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
No, it's not a contest. There's no rules because not
a contest.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
No, it's every one minute.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
We change.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
They are both wrong the answer see wind slab, Duty
said a I said, be both wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I like it when they get them wrong because that
proves they're not looking them up. Yeah, here's a lot
honest there.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
All right, we'll just do one more and we'll move
for a good one. Oh, okay, which us location holds
the record for the most snowfall in a twenty four
hour period? Is it Jackson Hole, Wyoming, Silver Lake, Colorado

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or Mount Shasta, California? A is Jackson Hole, b is
Silver Lake, Colorado? And see is Mount Shasta, California? Which
area had the most snowfall in a twenty four hour period?
Flatsays see, and Judy's is B and Judy, you got

(31:45):
it right, ding ding d You.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Won not Arion dot tonight. Yeah, you you.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Kicked his never mind, So you're gonna want to get
Jeff your email?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It in here, send me your it's not a price,
it's not a contest. Send me your emailing address anyways.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, we'll just maybe something you get dropped in the mail.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
No charge, maybe maybe not, probably probably won't. What's what's
my email.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Here?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
It is just typed it into the chat there. Uh yeah,
so Judy up, email me your mailing info and you
didn't win anything, but we might see something anyways.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, exactly, not a contest, and.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I can take that down, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I got a lot of what time is it? Okay?
We're still okay, I want to do tech breakdown, but
I want to do it. We can do this one
pretty quick because once people get thinking about what I'm
going to talk about, there might be a whole array
of things that you can just do research on your own.
So want to get bogged down in too many details,

(33:02):
so let's do it all right there we are, Okay,

(33:27):
So this week's tech breakdown is going to be about
a dual lens cam trap. A lot of you still
using cam traps. Okay, that's great, very cool, but here
is a dual lens very small camera trap. And you
might be going, well, why would I want to lenses?
And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm also going to

(33:48):
give you the name this is. This is built. This
one is built by cam Park. It's their model t
C O six. It's four K dual lens through camera
and Jeff can put the link up up and chat.
And this price on this right now it's ten percent
off is one thirty four for this four K and

(34:11):
it does video. Of course, we'll get into the specter
real quick, but I want to spend too much time. Okay,
So why they are kind of a game changer, the
dual lens trail camera systems because they use two separate
camera modules. Each is optimized for different lighting conditions. One

(34:33):
lens is for at night, so it can be very specialized.
One is for day. But then and that makes a
huge difference versus the crappy night vision I get on
these like ring cameras or you know where it's flipping
a lens in front of it, right, we're removing a lens.

(34:54):
It's it's using the same thing. These are very specialized, okay,
So the result is going to be dramatically clear night
imagery and far less noise because each lens is built
for specific purpose. Dual lens cams produce truer detail and depth,
especially when recording animals. It done in dusk and in

(35:17):
pitch black. Right, So, while they aren't true three D cameras,
the improved low light optics to make shapes, silhouettes, and
motion drills far more accurate. Important when investigators need to
tell a bear from a biped in a shadow. The
difference is subtle and bright daylight, but huge when capturing

(35:39):
night stuff. Okay, and for bigfoot research that's a huge advantage, right,
It's going to be more reliable evidence than a standard
single lens trap that's gonna blur, wash out glare blah
blah blah. And it does does of course have AI.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
This is god.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean pretty much everything you can imagine, including blue too.
So you can go to the thing or near it
and download it right to your phone without touching the
cards or anything. You can raise the car. You do
everything right from your phone.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, and I do believe it's got WiFi, so if
you're near Wi Fi, all the specs just just click
the link o look at the specs. But my pointer
here isn't to sell you this one. My point is
for you to start thinking about going to a dual lens.
If you're doing that, it's time for an upgrade, right.

(36:38):
It's just you know, it's Christmas. Maybe your wife is
bugging you going, I don't know, you know, can you
please send me an idea of what you might want.
This may be something you might want to do as
an upgrade. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Think of what that one, that technology would have cost
ten years ago. One hundred and thirty four bucks. Ten
years ago it'd have been thousands. Yeah, yeah, credible.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean I've got all the specs. I could
go through all these It's it's nuts.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
And like I said, there is a Wi Fi support
with it, there's solar support ready to just plug in
for solar panel. There's a lot of support for it.
So that's that's just one make There could be thirty
other ones you can investigate. That just happens to be
the one I was researching. They take time to research,

(37:30):
give us something to do.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, that's amazing when the technology has gotten so cheap.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
Did.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh J came back from his walk, his the only
walk outside I see out in the woods.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, we were starting to feel sorry for you, Jail
out there walking alone in the woods. Glad you're back.
Let's let's breeze through these clips really quickly. There's a
most of these. We can actually just even cut them
off halfway because they're all like visually impacted. They all
have visual impact. And I don't need to watch the

(38:05):
whole damn thing, nor does our audience. They just need
to see a push. It's a push clip.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Time, Okay, we'll talk, all right, Well, here we go.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So the only one that's long is clip one because
it realizes on audio. And I think a lot of
people have heard this, but a lot of people have not.
I have one person that's heard this clip. It's a
nine to one one call of about a very strange
occurrence that happened, and it's been kind of verified that
this is a call that the police got. Go ahead

(38:45):
and play it, Jeff.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
It is very hard to listen to that cult to
that nine one one take without becoming somewhat unnerved. It
actually bothered me the first time that I heard it.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
I'm driving on Soon.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
I just crossed the Black River and I thought, I thought,
guy expending on the front of the rocal, you saw a.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Man stand inside of the road. What was that, sir?

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Are you okay?

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Truck?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, what's in the rays?

Speaker 10 (39:23):
It's not in the water, to truck, there's something in
the bed of your truck.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Just well, I just turns on my butt like my truck,
and there's something in my breast.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Okay, sir.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
When you say something, what do you mean?

Speaker 11 (39:37):
I just dropped it off of the butt of my cart,
went over my room.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Okay, what was it?

Speaker 9 (39:42):
According to the cab notes and the deputy reports, this
thing jumped into the back of his pickup trunk and
began to actually beat on the top of the cab
of his trunk. You could actually hear something beating on
the top of the truck. The caller stated that it
was beating and scratching on the top of the cab
of his true.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yikes, I'd say, yeah, well that was the longest one
I have.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Next, I'm just gonna we're gonna be all over the
map here. We're gonna jump from this to domestic Damascus goats.
These are just so strange. And I showed these animals before,
but god, it's just they never cease to amaze me. Sounds. Look, yeah,

(40:47):
they have like three or four things in their round,
like layers of their gums, and it's they're weird looking,
all right. Clip three. Sound is good. You'll get the
idea really quick on that. But it's something to think about.
Is the Earth alive? As this is a hardbeat, go
ahead and play it.

Speaker 11 (41:05):
Every twenty six seconds, the Earth pulses a faint tremor,
too subtle for us to feel, but powerful enough to
shake the instruments of scientists around the world. For decades,
this mysterious heartbeat has echoed beneath our feet, steady, unchanging,

(41:25):
and unexplained. First discovered in the nineteen sixties. The signal
was traced to the depths of the Atlantic Ocean near
the Gulf of Guinea off the coast of West Africa,
and since then it hasn't stopped. Some say it's the
ocean itself, waves crashing against the continental shelf like a

(41:48):
drum beat deep within the planet.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
All but did you know that the Earth has got
the steady boom boom boom?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I did not.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
See, we didn't have to listen to the whole damn thing.
If you're interested in that, go read about it.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Next.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And once again, these clips can be pretty quick. But
this is sound as good. Another kind of master of camouflage.
It's a giant frogfish, not only in color but texture.

(42:30):
There you go, that's enough. Did you know there was
a giant frog fish that can camouflage?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Jeff, I'm sorry, I get to I had. Whenever I
pull a clip up, it plays in my ears. I'm
sorry to say it again.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Did you know there was a giant frog fish that
can camouflage?

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Like, not specifically, but there's some animals that got really
good camouflage, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
All right, now we're going to jump to another topic.
Sound is good. These are uh UAPs that are increasing
all over the country. The sightings of these are up
like thousand percent. Go ahead and play it.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
What is that.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
Now?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
It disappeared.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
Here?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
They formed triangles that pilot. I mean, people are seeing
them all over. It's kind of a big thing right now.
I don't know what they are. Nobody knows. Then why
do they form a shape? That's the other weird question.
You know, maybe it's there. Maybe they're creatures and they're mating.
Food for thought. Okay, uh clip sick. Sound is good.

(43:50):
The clip is making. It's encore because it's so bizarre.
And this is from a guy named Caspar site guy
always most interesting things. I like to follow them. Go
ahead and show this what what?

Speaker 7 (44:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
No, no, just repeat that you can control her pupils?

Speaker 6 (44:12):
What now you?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And no, we can't assume they're drones.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
No, we can't assume that.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
You know, there could be some kind of They don't
make noise. Doesn't mean that the government. Yeah, it's something.
I've seen them up close. I don't know they are.
They just gonna look like balls, all right. Did you
know there is a balloon museum in Iowa Balloon Museum.
There's a helium filled ball covered in carbon like carbon

(44:56):
color crans and these ball kids can they kind of
just floated around against the walls and in drosic looks
like my gym. Go ahead. Strange.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
How odd that there's a balloon museum.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, And there's not only a balloon museum in Iowa.
There's the International Balloon Museum in New Mexico. There's two
of them. Two, yeah, International and the other one Okay,
it's an Albuquerque the other one. So there is something
to do in Iowa. Jeff, I argue about what you

(45:37):
said mean things about Iowa.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I didn't say. Did I say something mean about I
think I didn't say?

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Just joking?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Okay, clip a sound as good. This is interesting. Pay
attention to this because I'm hearing more and more people
that apparently are in the know are saying, go ahead
and play this about UFOs.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
I've had people.

Speaker 10 (46:01):
Who I know are in the know, and I've mentioned
this before, and one of them told me the truth
is indigestible. It's not something that we could that we
would be able to fully grasp or entertain, and that
it's it's like, you know, it will be like telling

(46:24):
somebody something that they can't do anything about and they
don't know what the repercussions of that would be. It's
so great, it's so world changing and transformational, and maybe
not in a good way, you know.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
So there you go, what could be?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
So?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen various things related to that. Dude.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Every time I hear that, though, I go wonder what
it is?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, I wonder what it is if you're.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Really in the know. All right, Clip nine? Uh, sound
as good. We can skip through these really quick because
they're all very it's new footage, four K footage. It's
not a I have a lot of the weirdest secrets.
That's an r fish. Next, super cool, super crazy. The

(47:15):
next one is a dumbo squid, super bizarre. I would
you like to see that thing walking around your living room? Jeff, Yeah,
a little bit. Next this is called a pelican eel.

(47:37):
I watch what it does.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
There?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
You go right in your right in your face?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Next, okay, the next one is called a uh dragonfish.
You'll figure out why real quick. The teeth on this thing,
I think they pan back a little bit like that. Meagree?

(48:09):
Nothing biting you?

Speaker 7 (48:10):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I don't think they're very big, but that's still creepy.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
And then we have a beautiful animal called a crossota jellyfish.
It's really amazing delicate. These are really deep water animals.
It's a ufo. Yeah, yeah, it's a ding ufo. All right,

(48:36):
clip ten. No, this is a guessing game. Everybody pay attention.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I want to hear some words.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
That's fine. I'm gonna warn everybody about it though. Okay,
so you can turn your volume down if you don't
want to hear some naughty, naughty f words. But I
did you know it's just like it's.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Bad warning.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, bad adult words. We have kids in the room.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
To leave.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
But this is really an interesting clip because it is
a real animal and it really is out of place,
and it's really in this woman's yard and it's really winter.
Go ahead and play this.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Everybody guess language war aware.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Guess what this is?

Speaker 7 (49:22):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (49:25):
Are you.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Actually early baffled? Everybody want to guess what that is?
Come on, see some guesses. Is I'm going to tell
you what it.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Is exactly or something?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Most Yeah, it's not a deer. Not deer.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It's definitely not a deer.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
No, it's not is it somebody flats's rabbit cat looks
like a statue. Know, it's a statue. It's a really animal. Okay,
so all right, so just play the next clip. Yeah,
it does look like a rabbit deer, you know, but

(50:15):
it's a Patagonia covee. And they make great They actually
make good bets there. They love people. They're like they're
a rodent, but they have these really long legs. They
stand twenty inches to all the way, thirty five pounds
and they can leap seven feet in the air. And
this was one that got loose when they a construction

(50:38):
worker came to a farm and it was doing some construction.
Actually it leaped out a window. Go and play the footage.
This is what it looks like up close. And there's
a Patagonia covee. It's another another name too, they call
it in South America. It lives in the plain, the
grassy plains of South America. But apparently they're just really

(51:02):
friendly and smart, and a lot of people keep them
in their houses, you know, like those those Coppa barros. Yeah,
those are friendly too, and it's kind of a relative
of that. But this is a you know, it's a
rodent looks like a deer. Doesn't it look like a
little delicate deer. It's got kind of deer eyes, deer coloring.

(51:23):
Maybe that's what we saw. Maybe we saw a Patagonia covey.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
No, No, it didn't. We had the one we had
had a narrow nose. So there you go, something new
all the time, right, Yeah, and Flat says they had
a couple of zebras. What were you smoking? Don't sure
I'm given a flat crap today. And if yeah, only

(51:50):
got two levet this is I just have to rub
this in because half of the country, over half, we're
all in really cold and snow right now, and blah
blah blah. Go ahead and play this. This is like
heaven on earth.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Oh man, wake up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Go out and have a couple of coffee, so that
stairway and hear all those birds singing, and look at
all the beautiful fish in that gin clear water. And
is I believe the Benita River in Brazil heavenly place?
No me either. We've been to some weird places. I haven't.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I've never been south of the south of the Equator.
I really no, I and I really want to go
see the sky the stars south of the equator, because
it's completely different stars and you see here, I'd love
to see that, all right, Clip twelve.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
The sound is good. Things are not as I was
your per Okay, you see a paragraph in there right
right beautiful. It's really just a bunch of garbage. The
things are not what they appear often and that goes
a liquid research you have to bear and three D

(53:10):
that looks like a fair that's just garbage. And then
I did have a clip one clip as a bonus.
This is a carpeted motocross racetrack, but it's carpeted. Go
and play this. This is insane. God, I'd love to
do this. There's no mud, no dust, no mourd, no
dirt and dirthquakes, oh man, fun and everything's set up

(53:34):
to be super smooth. Should we talk to should we
talk to Joel about building us? One of those?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I could look at that one.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah, good luck, Okay, that's it all right, Our guts
what we do through a lot of stuff pretty quick.
Our guests, our guests. And I don't know if I
want to call him Jeremiah and Jay. I want to
call him Jay. Okay, So Jay Fountain is a former
professional mixed martial artist turned survivalist Hunter Fisherman season four

(54:22):
ten researcher, a dedicated build investigator and cryptozoologist. He's been
deeply involved in anomalist research since two thousand and one,
so it's going back twenty four years. Jay approaches the
unknown with boots on the ground mindset, driven by his
own experience which I hope to hear about experiences, in

(54:46):
a strong sense of responsibility to the community. His mission
is simple, gather real evidence, uncover solid facts, and help
bring clarity to the mysteries. So many people are searching
for answers to you. Okay, so that's Jay. I can
get to his friend Nick Valente, and so Nick is

(55:13):
more focused on dog man research. Nick is the for
tea and researcher, cryptozoologist and field investigator with twenty four
years experience. Also and he's the founder of the International
dog Man Project.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, we're talking about that in a while.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
No, no, I miss dog man. I haven't seen a
dog man. I don't want to see a dog man
but anyhow either, But I am ready to get these
guys on here, all.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Right, let me disclaim them first.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, yeah, please disclaim that everything they say.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
All right, and welcome Jay and Nick.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Hi guys, Hey guys, how's are going?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Hey? Nick? Hey Jay? I am so happy one to
meet you guys in person, well sort of in person.
But you know, it really is a good it's it's
better than then nothing, right, it's better than a phone call. Yes,
we get to know you, word about you and and
share everything. Okay, So I want to know first off,

(56:37):
you guys you're into Bigfoot? Are you into dog Man two?

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Jay? Yes?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Oh you both are so you kind of both in
that scene.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
Next to mix the out of our partnership, Nix's the
dog Man guy. I'm the Bigfoot guy. But we both
crossed over in the last six years.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
You know. Okay, Actually we do all of the cryptids,
all the crypt We just we're just more specific to
dog Man uh and Bigfoot. Yes, but we we really
we researched all of the cryptids and throughout throughout the world. Actually, guys,
you know there's more than more cryptids around than you

(57:14):
could possibly count.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, well, we heard about that nine one one call.
Do you guys think that's real? That nine one one
call we played? What are your thoughts? Did you not
hear it.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
I heard it, you know nowadays, fifteen years ago, Doug,
I would have said, no, A lot of my beliefs
have changed since then, so I don't put anything past
the realm of possibility.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Nowadays, Oh, way more open minded, way more.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
I've seen to way too much weird stuff. And yeah,
way way more open mind. I was a kind of
guy fifteen years ago, twenty years ago that would have
told you that these big foot were an eight and
uh no, there's way way more to wait more and
I'll get into that later.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And there's no rush, so we've
got plenty of time to talk. So have you guys
both you can both jump in. But if you both
had a sighting of either one or the other or
both of these animals.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
I've had an encounter, and I've had two sightings of
dog men by encounter, I would I would say that
that's there's a difference between just a sighting and an encounter.
The encounter is I was approximately thirty feet away from
from one, and on two other occasions I had a sighting,

(58:39):
you know, just a fleeting sighting, maybe five six seconds,
and then it ran off. But the encounter was a
little bit over a minute and about a minute and
six seconds.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Well that's a long I mean that's long, yes, very
long time.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Do you want to share this? I think it would
be great to share that now, Oh, because then it
gives us a lot more to talk about.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
Well, this is September thirteenth, twenty thirteen. I was coming
home from work. Actually we had three days of how
can I say, qualifications, and I was all tired and
I decided that I would take a shortcut going home.
So instead of taking the highway going around in a circle,

(59:28):
I went over the mountain and this is in Mountainside,
New Jersey, and I went up into Watch On Reservation.
At the top of the reservation as an oval. In
the center of the oval is about the room of
I would say, six football fields side by side, and

(59:49):
then front and back where they do various things for picnickers,
and there's you know, kids can go on different swings
and stuff like that. During the daytime, it's a park,
it's watch On Reservation. There's a couple of old buildings there.
One is a bathroom, one is a place where you
can get ice cream. There's another part where you can

(01:00:12):
just go under to get out of the sun and
drink some water. And right near those buildings within the oval,
there's a stop sign. And as I'm coming around the oval,
and mind you, it's eleven thirty at night, it's pitch dark.
I'm driving my jeep and I got about five hundred

(01:00:32):
thousand candlepower and auxiliary lighting on because it's pitch dark
up there. And I can see in the distance a
reflector and then I saw a bicycle leaned up against
a stop sign, and the look when I got closer
later on, I can see that it was locked over there,

(01:00:53):
and I'm saying to myself, what is a bicycle doing are?
And I figured i'd look at it as I was
passing by on the road way. As I get closer,
I see a very large figure and the figures right hand,
I want to call it a hand an arm went
from on its side up to its mouth and back down.

(01:01:17):
And as I got closer, I'm now seeing that this
is a small bicycle, so it's probably a child or
maybe a woman's bicycle. And I'm thinking maybe this is
a bear, because from the distance that I was looking
at this, this thing was huge. And I'm saying that
to myself that it's possible that this thing attacked a human.

(01:01:41):
So I stopped my vehicle about thirty feet away from it,
and I had this thing lit up totally and it
looked like no bare eye ever saw. It had a
wolf like head. I was later to find out because
I went back the next day and I compared it
to the stop sign where its head stopped that it
was over seven and a half feet tall.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
And to my sight and my looking at it, I
can I'm estimating this thing weighed about six hundred and
fifty pounds. It's a raw muscle covered in dark hair.
It had something in its right claw, and like I said,
as I was driving up on it, it had went
up to its mouth and went back down. I'm saying,
my god, there's a bicycle. Could it possibly be a kid?

(01:02:26):
And it killed a kid? And I didn't know what
this thing was. This is twenty thirteen. I knew nothing
about the dog Man at the time. The face looked
like a wolf's head. It had a human like body,
but it was super large. In any case, I stopped
thirty feet away from it, and I get out of

(01:02:47):
the car. I have a bare spray in one hand,
to show you what that looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Oh gee, that's a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
And I had my ted millimeter glock in the other hand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
That's a big one too.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
And I'm telling you, guys, I got five hundred thousand
candlepower lighting this thing up. And it was facing off
to my right, it's left. It was cantered to me,
and it ignored me totally. And I'm looking at this thing,
and I'm looking at it, and it went once again

(01:03:25):
up to its mouth with what it had in its hand,
took a bite and went back down and it's just
stood there chewing. Now, this all took place in a
matter of a minute and six minute and ten seconds.
And I'm watching this thing and it's it was like
I was nothing. I was meaningless to it. I didn't
mean anything to it. It didn't care. I mean, this

(01:03:47):
thing was huge, vicious looking and nasty. Now I'm not
going to spray it. I'm not going to shoot it
because it didn't attack me. As a matter of fact,
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
But you're in your jeep. I don't want to interrupt you,
but you're in your jeep right and the headlights are
shining on this thing.

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
Right, and it totally ignored me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, we're gonna want to talk about that later as
to the reasons, but go ahead. This is crazy lock
story short.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
It walks off after a little bit over a minute. Wow,
And I know it was real. I know it was
in a spirit because I could hear it stepping on
the leaves, I could hear it stepping on the branches,
and it just went And after a few seconds, I'm saying,
maybe it's trying to go around me. So I popped
back into my car, locked the doors, turned it around,

(01:04:37):
and I could see off in the distance on the
right hand side. Up in the air, I could see
a I like that called a glowing orb and it
was in the sky. And that was it until the
next day. The next day, I came back with a team.
We were totally kitted up. We measured where I thought

(01:05:00):
the head of this creature came up to on the
stop sign, and the stop sign was eight feet tall.
This thing was about seven foot seven inches tall. We
checked the area. We found blood, and what we found
was that what it had in its hand was the
part of a deer, a hind quarter. It had a leg.

(01:05:21):
This deer was shredded straight down the middle and all
the internal parts were gone. I guess it also ripped
off its leg and was chewing on that. Well. We
did find a blood trail that went about seven eight
feet in and then that was it. And the blood
trail was most likely from the leg of the deer
that it had in its hand. Wow, And that was it.

(01:05:45):
And that's what got me started on the dog man.
I did not know at that point what that was.
I knew what a vampires are, and it with where
wolves are personally from what I've read about and researched
on where wolves they're only going to be maybe a
half inch inch taller than the human that that they
came out of, that they formed out of. This thing

(01:06:07):
was seven feet six inches pole. Yeah, yeah, we measured it,
like I said to my eye on the stop sign,
and we checked the area and I didn't find anything.
Years later I find out that the Lenapee Indians had
a home up there in the Watchhung Mountains a long
time ago, long time, and that there was a burial

(01:06:29):
ground there. And through my research I also found that
dog man sometimes they guard the burial ground of the
Native Americans. So that was my first encounter, Like I said,
the next two were just sightings.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Well, hang on, I want to dwell in this one
a little bit. So you see this paradigm changing creature.
You don't know what it is. I mean, what are
you doing now? Because you go home? At some point,
you gotta go home and go to bed. You got
to talk to your I don't know if you're married
or you had a family at that time where you

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were did you tell anybody?

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
Nobody at home at the time. I just went back
to work the next day and I got a team
fellows or paramilitary, and I brought them back and we
checked the area out because I wanted to see, you know,
if what I saw was for real, you know. I mean,
I did not know what this thing was. I mean,
I know what a bear looks like. It was like

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no black bear that I've ever seen, and it's like
no brown bear I've ever seen either. We don't have
brown bear in New Jersey. So it was it was
not something that that I knew anything about at the time.
I went on a quest to find out what it was.
Back in twenty thirteen. Who knew who knew? You know

(01:07:51):
what this thing was? Gosh, he's asking a question.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, he's asking about so with the bicycle, was there
any missing people reports, anything going on with that? Not
that I found, Not that I found, never heard anything.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
No, nothing. I I went to the watch On police
department because I'm former military myself and former police, and
showed him my badge and I asked him, I said,
do you have any anybody missing, any children missing in
this area, you know lately or anything? And that was
a negative.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Wow, this is certainly one of the best, you know,
reports and encounters I've ever heard of. But how are
you dealing with this? Mentally?

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
It's just another phenomenon that I have to try to explain.
Do you think about as his reasons for being in cryptozoology,
Mine are to prove or to disprove that something's real
or not. I've investigated the Mothman, and I felt that
it was a sand hill. I mean, I investigated the

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Mothman from soup to nuts, and from soup to nuts,
I mean all the way down in West Virginia, all
the way up to Chicago. There's a lay line that
goes straight up there. It's also a pathway that the
sand hill cranes go on. When it starts to turn

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summertime and they start flying north up that way. A
lot of people don't like the fact that, you know,
I like to either prove or to disprove, So to me,
I disproved it in my mind anyway. But there's a
lot behind the story of the Mothman besides that one story.
There in West Virginia, I went in search of Cuba cabra.

(01:09:48):
A buddy of mine from the military called me up
and we went down into Texas and then over into
Mexico back into twenty ten, and I actually got to
see a body of a Cuba cabra, and as it
turns out, they're kind of common in southwestern Texas. To
my satisfaction, once again prove it to disproof when I

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took some DNA samples from it and sent it to
a fellow who is a veterinarian that I knew. I
paid for this myself, and it turns out that it
was part wolf, part coyote, and percentage a high percentage
of something unknown. And mind you, when they run this

(01:10:33):
DNA on animals, it's worldwide, so they've got a very
large data bank for that. So once again approve it
to disprove. Yeah. I mean I've been South Jersey where
you have dog Man, you have sightings of Sasquatch, I mean,
you name it. There's just so much down there. And cryptozoology, guys,

(01:10:58):
is just just so interesting, that's all I know. And
it's a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I like to call it hobby,
which I kind of do full time these days.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yea. And how did you get into this chair?

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Well, be honest with you, my mother had bought me
a book when I was seven, and I'm sure you remember.
It's called Unexplained Mysteries of the Twentieth Century, and you know,
seven years old. Here I am flipping through it and
I come to the picture of Patty and I was
immediately my little self was immediately hooked, just immediately. And

(01:11:38):
my father owns quite a bit of land up here.
We're originally from a logging family and this, this peap
private parcel of land has been home to a group
of a family, group of six to eight Sasquatch over
the past forty years. And I had my first experience
in two thousand and one, which I can get into

(01:11:59):
now if you if you want me, sure, Yeah, it
was it was muzzleoader season up here, and I'm I'm
up in the Adirondacks. You know, it's very very squatchy.
After I'm in the northern northern part of the ad
Ax where White Holls towards the southern tip of the Adirondacks.
I'm way way at north, two miles from Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, it's a beautiful area.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
Beautiful, Yes, it is. So I went hunting, Like I said,
it was muzzle oder season, and I had plans of
you know, tagging a nice buck there. I had some
nice bucks coming into my tree tree stand. Wanted the
harvest one that night. And uh. I went in and

(01:12:41):
sat in my tree stands for a couple of hours,
and all of a sudden, I got a really weird feeling. Uh,
it's very hard to describe, very very very strange feeling.
So I said, I think it's time to time to leave,
you know, And I walked out of the tree stand
and I had about a quarter mile walk back to
my truck. And as I'm walking back, my father has

(01:13:05):
an old nineteen forty style skidder that's still down there.
It's part from the left hand side of the logging room. Okay,
and when we're I'm about fifty yards away, and I
can see a set of eyeballs and a head pop
out from behind the skidder. And you know, I can

(01:13:28):
I've been in the woods all my life, and I
can identify most animals and pretty much any animal that's
native to the Adirondacks, I can recognize them in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Not a problem.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
By the shape of the head this thing, and I
knew it was something in the eyes. I knew it
was something that was a bit off. I at that
point did not know how off it really really was
until I got a little bit closer. I get just
about directly across from the skidder, and this thing pops

(01:14:03):
its head out again, which at that point it brings
its arm around the front end of the skitterer as well,
and which it would have had to have been its
left arm from it being on the left side, you know,
the skinner being on the left side of the road,
nose first towards the trail, so it would have been
its left arm. I could see the fingers and the

(01:14:24):
hand and all, and I knew at that point it
was dealing with something different. So you though, I'm you
know what to think. I kept walking forward and I
got in front of the skater, and all of a sudden,
I had my muscles on my shoulder. All of a sudden,
out from behind the skidder jumps this creature. And there's

(01:14:49):
a log laying horizontally this way. Okay, another one fifteen
feet away, running the same way. When this thing jumped
out from behind the back end of the skinner, it
hit that log, that first one. And you talk about athletic,
I could not. I just couldn't believe it. This thing

(01:15:11):
did next, you know. And you know, as human beings,
when we take a jump, we want to make a
long jump or whatever. We we squat down and we
swing our arms and I'll to try to get that
full or full distance. This thing, when it hit that
first log, it propelled itself off the ball of its foot,

(01:15:31):
didn't swing its arms, didn't squat down, It just rocketed
itself off the front end of its feet.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Okay, let's stop it right there, though. Yeah, I'll ever
get it out. Okay. So did it seem to defy physics?
You know, like it was weightless almost.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
In my opinion, as in my in my opinion, is there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Any way muscles could have done, you know, just huge,
really athletic muscles could have accomplished that move.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
I think, you know, even your best Olympic jumpers, you know,
have trouble jumping that far from a standing position.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
So, and how high did it jump.

Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
From off when it hit that first log and it
leaped off that it probably it probably went ten to
fifteen feet in the air at least. And when it
hit that second log, it did the same thing that
it propelled itself off the ball of its foot. It
leaped off that second log and got immediately behind a tree.

(01:16:41):
It was about fifteen feet away.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
So here I am. I've got this thing about thirty
feet in front of me, and it was still it
was we still had a little bit of light. Okay.
So I just want everyone in here to know that
I am not nick and I we are not pro kill, but.

Speaker 12 (01:16:58):
You believe you have the right to walk in the
woods safe and you have the right to come out
safe as well, which meaning I would only fire one
of these things.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
In self defense. You know, I'm not gonna go out
there and choot one for the heck of it, you know.
So Stin came back behind it came out from behind
a tree when it when it hit that last log
and landed, It landed in front of a big white
pine and it went behind that white pine as soon
as it landed, but it popped back out, okay, And

(01:17:30):
here it is just standing there looking at me. And
my first thought was, is somebody have a petirangutan around
here that got loose? Because that's that's the first thing
that came to mind. And I was looking at this thing.
Was was not the face so much, because the face
looked more like an ancient human than anything else. It
did not look like any you know, at all. So

(01:17:55):
I wanted to get a better look at this thing,
and I raised my muzzle order and before I could
even get it half I wanted to look at it
through the scope, you know. Before I could even get
it halfway up, this thing goes like this and it
hops back. They knew what that gun was. They knew
what that gun was. They know what guns are, and

(01:18:15):
a hot back behind that tree, and I did not
see it again. I don't know if it went down
and all it bellied out like they're famous for, or
if it found an angle that I couldn't see from
where I was standing, and it just bolted because they're
they're that intelligent that they can figure that their intelligence
is so far superior to ours in my opinion, that

(01:18:39):
you know, it's unreal. We can't fathom some of the
things that they do. So, yeah, that was my very
first encounter when people ask me, you know, okay, people
ask me, with this thing weight okay, and how tall
it was? Would it it weigh? This thing was no
more than five feet tall, if not a little bit short,

(01:19:00):
and it probably weigh two hundred pounds. When I tell
people that, they're like, oh, that's not that big. Well, yeah,
when you're talking about four foot eleven or five feet,
two hundred pounds is big. It's put together. That's very
muscular and very athletic.

Speaker 7 (01:19:14):
Hill.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
So, like I said, that was the last time that
I saw that that creature on that very evening. I
at that point, I went walked the rest of a
quarter mile to my truck and I took I took off.
It was it was deserving that first and kind of
ruined my hunting for about two years. I would not

(01:19:37):
go back and I wouldn't go back in the woods
for a couple of years. It really it was mentally deserving,
you know. People, Uh, these these cryptids are not meant
to be really not meant to be seen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Brain is not supposed to see something like that. And
once Yeah, so when once you do see it, you
can't forget it. That's not something you can unsee.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Okay. Was the color? Was it like an iran in
tank color? That auburn redish?

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
It was auburn red?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
And did I have a long did it have long
hair coming off the bottom of its arms? Kind of yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
I had the long hair coming off the four arms.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
No, no facial hair, no hair on its face. It
was all skinned. Skin was a light tan and the
rest of it was like that auburne color. Yeah. Yeah,
but it was just amazing. The athleticism it is still
blows my mind out of all my encounters. The athleticism

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of these things.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Yeah, And you do wonder you know, we don't know,
but I have heard reports, as I'm sure you guys have,
where they do things that don't seem physically possible. It
seems to defy gravity. They're not affected by the gravity.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Like were I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
You know, I'll tell my story later. People have heard it,
but we saw a I don't know it was a
wing creature dropped out of the sky one night. We
were meaning that we're driving down the freeway, had its
wings out stretched, but it dropped straight down it to
fight physics. It's like it didn't catch any air. It

(01:21:25):
just dropped right in front of my car wind shield
and then zoomed towards my our car windshield. And you know,
it's wings were as wide as the freeway.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Really was no no crane. If it was a crane,
it would be even more interesting because it would have
been about a five hundred pound crane, right, you know,
I mean that that'd be pretty damn interesting. And I've
done actual crane research. I'm the guy that brought Siberian
crane eggs. I work used to work with the Crane

(01:21:58):
Foundation and brought Siberian cran eggs all the way to
Russia that were almost extinct at that time. So I mean,
I know cranes, and that's not it was some weird
creature that wanted to scare the living crap out of us,
and it did. It accomplished that. Yeah, and you just go, well,

(01:22:19):
why did we get to see that? And that's got
to be the way you felt, Nick too. Why did
you get to see that thing for so long? Did
it did it know the future that you were going
to end up being a dog running the International Dog
dog Man Project. That's that's what I was wondering. I
think about that stuff. I think, well, what about what

(01:22:40):
became in the sighting? Maybe they know? Maybe that's if
I show myself to Nick, if it is some kind
of supernatural being, Nick is going to promote my existence.
Does that make any sense? Nick? Or am I just
talking to Nah?

Speaker 7 (01:22:56):
I doubt it. I highly doubt it. I I've done
so much research over the years on the dog Man
and on Sasquatch. Although I've never seen a Sasquatch. I've
been in in Oregon, I've been in Washington State. I've
heard the wood knocks, heard the pounding on the ground

(01:23:18):
as they're walking. I've seen the trees that were inverted
and slammed back into the ground from the top down.
I've never seen one. But and I've also seen footprints,
you know, the sasquatch footprints, and suddenly they end this
as the saying goes where the footprints end. I kind

(01:23:41):
of feel that these are probably interdimensional creatures.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Well, that's what I was saying, and I wasn't saying
it's what I think. I was just throwing out one
of the crazy diarrhea theories that a person crosses your brain.
Why did you get to see that for so long?
Did you ever ask yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
That it was hungry? No, I never asked myself that
it was never good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
I'm surprised.

Speaker 7 (01:24:07):
It just felt. It felt like it thought I was insignificant,
and I was, no, you know, nothing to it, and
it just stood there and had its meal and then
walked off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
It's never crossed your mind that you're kind of lucky
or special to be able to witness something.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
Man not special. It's just you happen to be there
at the right time, or, in this case, the wrong time,
because you don't really want to see something like that.
One of your listeners asked before in a comment, any
footprints or anything. We scoured the areator at that time
of the year. It was leaves and twigs and everything

(01:24:49):
like that. Nothing to be seen. Uh. The only thing
I took out of that years later, and I did
something some research on, was the fact that there was
an orb in the sky. You know what could lead
you to believe it Possibly could be an alien. It
could be an alien's pet. It could be something that
they put down here, you know, to see how humans are.

(01:25:12):
It could be something that was left ere. Scientists say
that there are eleven different dimensions. That's a proven thing
through you know science. Ye, it's possible that they can
travel between the dimensions. I mean a sasquatch. One minute
it's there and the next it's gone. How is that

(01:25:32):
without any footprints, we're out of trace.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Well, the other thing is we don't even know. Maybe
that just happens by accident, just because you know, I
have a feeling that humans once in a while, I
swear to God, I've had days where I'm like, uh,
that's not where I put my wallet. That was like
another another dimension. It's now, you know, somewhere else. I
just I'm just seeing what if?

Speaker 7 (01:25:56):
What if?

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
What if?

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
Yeah? One of our members International Dog Project, he's out
of Australia and he does research over there. He went
through some sort of a portal because he was on
the on a river over there. He went to go fishing.
He had been fishing that same river with his father
since he's been five and here he was late twenties.

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He was going slowly down the river and suddenly he
sort of blacked out and woke up, and he was
actually five miles down the river, and at the pace
that that river was going, he should have never been
more than a half a mile. And he had to

(01:26:41):
call his wife to come and pick him up, transport
the boat, you know, back home and everything because he
was far away. So I mean he went through a portal.
Maybe these maybe the dog men and Sasquatch and Mava
never are using interdimensional.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Portal or there not using. It just happens. It just
happens to them. It's possible too, That doesn't mean they're
they're aware of what's happening. All of a sudden. You
can see them, they can see you, and who moved
into Who's portal? You know what happened? I mean they
could those things could form anywhere in the woods, in

(01:27:20):
the street, they could be anywhere. I mean, there's so
many stories to back that up. So it's just another
theory to think about. What if this crap all happens
by accident, both to people like the missing people, hunters
that are super experienced suddenly disappear, what happened to them?
Did they go through a portal and not come back

(01:27:42):
and then it was because of the portal they went
through accidentally that caused them to get confused and lost
and then they die. I mean, it's God, it's fun
to think about all.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
These kidnapped by human traffickers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yeah, yeah, of course, any of those things.

Speaker 7 (01:27:58):
That's another thing that they can out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
There's never there's never usually one explanation for everything. It's
usually a multitude of things.

Speaker 6 (01:28:07):
Yeah, like or or you know, are they taken by
some sort of cryptid you know, yeah, it could be.
Then I was just saying, you know, I'm not saying
they that's is what's happening. I'm just saying that, you, Doug,
there's possibilities to different things, you know, So I think

(01:28:27):
I think you know that that could be a possibility
of a lot of these people going missing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Nick, and that a counter Nick, did you see a tail?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
No, I did not see a tail. And uh, I
mean not that it didn't have one, but it was
dark even though I lit it up, it was it
was cantered off to the side to me, and it's
possible there was a tail.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Would say, is there a consensus on that on sightings,
is it more typical to see a tail or not
or any kind of pattern there.

Speaker 7 (01:28:59):
Well, with the International dog Man Project, we receive anywhere
from twenty five to over one hundred reports in a
week of sightings or encounters. And I'll interview everybody either
the way we're doing it right now, on a telephone
or by email if they're more comfortable that way. And

(01:29:20):
I asked them certain questions, and that's one of the
questions I ask. And a lot of times they do
say that there is a tail.

Speaker 6 (01:29:27):
Yes, yeah, yeah, the one the one I saw it
didn't either, Nick, you know if I told you tho
the times. But yeah, as far as you guys going,
the one when I saw up close with my wife
in the car had no tail, and uh, you know,
even he was on two legs and then he got

(01:29:48):
down on all fours and I didn't see he still
didn't see a tail and it didn't have And I
mentioned this today two years and years ago and we
first started working together, that I didn't see a tail
and at the legs they didn't have it did not
have the what do you call them, make the backwards
facing legs what's the term.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
For that, Nick talking about like hawks?

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, back word. It did not have the
backwards honk honks hawks like a dog. It had like
the pasquatch. And then uh right, yeah, and I did
not see a tail on that one.

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
That's what I noticed with the one that I saw
that I encountered in a in what the watching area,
It did not look like it had any sort of
a hawk.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Right, do you make your reports? Nick? At the International
Dogman Project available to the public.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
Members can access an area that we do put our
reports in. But any reports that I have will be
that are given out to the public, that is that
they can access, they will be I will classify him
so that it's the state and the section of the

(01:31:07):
state north, southeast or west. I will not give a
name because most people do not want to do that.
They want to make a report, They don't want their
names put out there. They don't want their fifteen minutes
of fame. They do want to make a report, and
they most of the time, I get the street area
and a contact in case we're going to send a

(01:31:28):
team out to actually investigated further. That's one of the
reasons why I try to talk to people face to
face like we are right now. Jay knows that. You know,
a few years back, we had a fellow from California,
remember the airport worker. Oh god, and you know, I
mean after taking reports for over twenty years and then

(01:31:51):
researching this, this guy was far off. He wanted to
be on our show, but we know it was total bs.
He's telling us they he's fifty or sixty dog men
run by this private airport in the security hut that
he's in almost on a daily and nightly basis. They're

(01:32:11):
twelve and a half fifteen feet tall. No any reports
I've gotten. Dog men generally stick to family size if anything,
and that would be three four five and height wise
seven and a half feet under eight feet is basically

(01:32:32):
what we've always had reported to us. I've never heard
anything like that, so that gentleman, needless to say, never
got on our show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Have you ever heard a report, guys of like an
adult dog man with a juvenile dog man?

Speaker 7 (01:32:50):
Yes? Yeah, that rare, But I'm sorry, Doug, I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Would imagine it's a bit rare to hear that double
you know, seen two animals? Could you? I mean, is
there anything you can relate on that.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
Well, one in particular in Texas, there was two juveniles
and they were very close to a farm area that
was fenced in and the mail and that's what I
was told. Anyway, the mail came and indicated to the
two juveniles to leave the area. So you know that

(01:33:33):
that's one part where they were together. I mean a
juvenile dog man's growing up. It's learning like any kid
would learn. Yeah, and the mail, which was really huge,
came out and indicated to them to leave the area,
and they left the area. However, over the past year
or so, one or both to the juveniles did revisit

(01:33:56):
that same area, you know, and was seen by the
owner of the landowner, and they're lucky that he didn't
shoot them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Yeah, it's crazy. Do do you guys run into uh
situations where they're on their property. It's a homestead situation.
They have a bunch of acreage and they see these
things on more of a regular basis. Has that happened.

Speaker 6 (01:34:23):
Well, I've worked a lot of cases like that where
these people are habituating them, which I'm going to catch
crap for this, I know, I am. I do not
think that that's fair. Okay, if you're these people that
feed them food. Okay, I mean maybe given Leaving them

(01:34:47):
in gifts is one thing. That's one thing. But getting
feeding them food over and over they get the scotches,
get dependent on this food.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
Say something happens to the owners of that house, right, well,
now you're stuck. The new owner is stuck with the
family of you know, seven to nine foot harry beast.
It's running around their house, pounding on the walls, screaming
in the windows and stuff. I had to work a
case like that. And the guy who I went to
school with, he had he used to bust my chops. Man,

(01:35:20):
he going to look for Bigfoot this weekend there fountain
and you know, and I'd be like, yeah, absolutely, you know.
And he never took it seriously until I got a
phone call from one day he had inherited his grandmother's
house and wondering, like I said, wondering why these things
are running around, you know, pounding on the doors and

(01:35:41):
pounding on the walls, screaming in the windows, you know,
stuck in their face in the windows and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:35:47):
Come to find out, you know, we went and we
talked to his father. His grandmother had been feeding these
things for thirty plus years. So when she died, they
went through you know, food withdrawal. You know, they they
were cut off cold turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
And that's what What about people who aren't doing any feeding,
they're just seeing them on a regular yeah basis because
they own a lot of land.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
I'm one personally, you know, we we have a like
I said, we have a family in our land. You know,
anywhere from six to eight at any any given time,
except in the wintertime. I don't know where they go
up here. You know, you hear a lot of reports
down south of the dog maned Sasquatch all together everyone

(01:36:36):
spot Well, I don't know about down south, and Nick,
you will agree with me on this, I'm sure. Uh
you know up here, you know they don't play well.
They don't play nice together, the Sasquatches. Uh, they'll come,
you know, they'll they'll lead. They'll come from November to
about April. Then they'll leave, stay gone for the excuse me,

(01:36:57):
they'll stay for the summer fall, they'll move out and
then the other ones willquint start poking around.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Yeah, so they'll boogie out of there in November and
come back in April.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Correct, Correct, gotcha. Then the other way the other the
dog man will come in.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
So let's just talk about dog man for a second.
I want to get both your opinions. Maybe they differ.
What do you think about and are there any sightings
like let's say, like the Midwest, the upper Midwest where
we get a lot of snow and gold. Are there
any sightings in the winter. So it's kind of a

(01:37:35):
yes or no.

Speaker 7 (01:37:36):
Yes, there are definitely. Okay, I've had it done. I've
had sightings. You say, we log these things, and I
do it log them according to state and North Dakota.
I mean, it's it's cold up there. I've had sightings
up there, Upper Idaho. I've had sightings over there. I

(01:38:00):
have friends and members of the I d P in
Canada and we've had sightings. You will get more sightings
of sasquatch in Canada and in the cold areas, however,
So I mean that's that's something to uh to remember.

Speaker 6 (01:38:16):
A little bit bigger too, Yeah, for some reason they are.

Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
They're much bigger. And I'm thinking that that's because of
I guess the elk and the moose, you know, And yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Well, Bergman's loss is that the farther north you go,
the bigger the animal is two more body masks to
keep warm, to help them keep warm.

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Thank you dog. I was trying to think of that
term they.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
And I wonder what. I wonder what size Bergman was anyhow,
But so so does still sightings happen all year. It's
not like just to summer summer, it's all yere Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
I'll tell you. We had an influx of sightings of
dog man and sasquatch when you had the California wildfires.
And I was getting a once or twice daily reports
out of California when those wild wildfires were going on,
and I guess because it was pushing him out of

(01:39:25):
their habitat. Something people have to also understand is that
you'll see more of a dog man or a sasquatch
or any encryptid for that matter, where there's water, so
near rivers and streams, because all living things do need water.

(01:39:46):
You have things like rabbits and small other small animals
and birds and everything that visit the streams. So that's
easy pickens for the for.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
The forest the longest to absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
Yeah, you have fish, you know, fish in there and everything, right, So.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Then there's springs too, right next, I mean we've got
I've got one on our property. The other some other
spots they investigate up here have springs, which, you know,
a spring, like Nick said, is going to bring in
smaller game, which leads a bigger game and leads to
big enough game for sasquatching dogumn.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Are you are you guys under the impression these things
can be do just find on the edges, the edges
of agriculture, the edges of suburbs, you know, I mean, yeah,
there's corridors of forest. But yes, you don't think that.
In other words, you could have a sighting a mile
from a gas station correct, well, easily easily.

Speaker 6 (01:40:47):
Yeah, So because people are moving in these things, are
you know, people are taking up their natural habitat. Yeah,
so that leads to really no choice.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Well, the other thing that you know, al I often
think about there's a lot of bigfoot evidence in footprints
and hair samples, and in our case we're analyzing even
blood right now, there's a lot of physical evidence available
in the study scook and body cast to this. I mean,
it's just so much you've casted footprint casca. Oh you haven't,

(01:41:21):
did you? Next? Somebody sent some photos, okay with those yours? Yes, oh, okay,
so you've cast footprints I'm talking about bigfoot.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Now, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Why isn't there doesn't seem to be much evidence of
dog man other than a lot of sightings. There's not
a ton of physical like footprints.

Speaker 7 (01:41:44):
And yeah, there are footprints for dog man.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
There's also claw marks. You'll find them on the trees
that they're reported in the areas. And there's a difference
between a dog man claw mark and versus a a
black bear. A black bear its hand is about as
big as mine. Then you have a brown bear which
is about that big, so you know there's a difference.

(01:42:10):
A dog man claw mark will be splayed apart, very
far apart, you know, going up, and we have photographs
of that. So, I mean. Other things we do look
for are hair and especially if you're if a report
has gone about a sasquatch or a dog man through

(01:42:31):
a field, and if the field has a fence, a
barbed wire fence or even an old fence that's rusted,
those are actually the best ones and you'll get the
hair caught in there as they're going straight through it
or over it. So I mean there's there's there's other
types of evidence that that people are looking for out
there because.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Excuse me, has there been any good forensic work on
dog man stuff? And are you interested in getting spending
some samples because obviously a lot of them get destroyed
on getting DNA and that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Well, you gotta understand the problem with that is when
you send the samples to supposedly trusted places like the
US government. By that, I mean the Smithsonian. We have
people that sent hold jaw bones to the Smithsonian and

(01:43:29):
hair samples to the Smithsonian. I'm just giving one place
for an example. And months go by and they don't
hear anything. And according to ups or usps they were,
it was delivered and it was signed by somebody. When
they call up, that person never worked there. When they

(01:43:50):
call when the people who sent the information there and
sent the samples, when they call up, oh, there's nobody
that works here ever by that name, we never got
anything like this. They deny it. They absolutely deny it. Now,
when I took the samples that I got from the
Cube of Cabra, when we went over in New Mexico

(01:44:11):
and we went to this farmer slash ranchers area, and
he let us see it. I took samples of it,
and like I said, I spent my own money with
a veterinarian to have those samples checked out and identified.
So I mean, what are you gonna do. You're gonna
have to do it out of your own pocket, and

(01:44:32):
you're gonna have to do it with somebody that's that
you can trust.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
Absolutely. You know, I'm coming to mention we like when
it was just talking about you know, evidence, you know,
turning up missing and stuff like that. You know, as
I told you in the phone in the night, Doug,
when I years ago night after my second sighting in
two thousand and seven, I hooked up with another gentleman

(01:44:58):
who was a pretty famous researcher and we talked. You know,
you know him too. I'm gonna mention they're his name
or his organization's name on the radio. But I had
a bone I found when I was up in Maine
doing some research. And when we were up in Maine,
I had a guy content or come up to me

(01:45:19):
at a gas station out of nowhere and he said, uh,
you Jeremiah the Bigfoot guy. And I said yeah, and
who are you? I said, just a friend. He goes,
you're coming to see so and so up here, the
other bigfoot guy out of this day, aren't you? And
I said, as a matter of fact, I am. And

(01:45:41):
he said, well, he goes, like I said, I'm just
a friend. He goes, just speak careful what you put
on the radio from now on, which was, yeah, gave
me the creeps. He gave me the creeps.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
That's really creepy.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
So then when I got to my associate's house and
we you know, I found the bone. I contacted the
other gentlemen who were in the organization I was working for,
and he knew an anthropologist at a university. Uh, so
we sent I sent him some pictures of the bone.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
At first leave the bones with the teeth marks.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
Yes, sir, yes they are. So I sent them to
him and he said, Jeremiah, you need to send that
to me, that bone to me immediately. You've got something.
You could tell just from the pictures that it was
something worth looking into. So sent them out, and lo
and behold, I never got him. I never got it back.
I never got the bone back in the mail. Weyes,

(01:46:37):
could have gotten lost, of course, but I just the
circumstances were very strange, strange.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
So who do you think, Okay, who do you think
the person in it? I mean, were they dressed, what
were they driving?

Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
They were they were driving in sub Okay a black
at UV. They were driving black at TUV. But they
had regular calles on baseball cap.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
And that's really a strange story because that's as creepy
as it gets.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
It's very bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
But I have you know, I could, I could trade
some other stories with you guys at some point off
your right, But yeah, it's interesting. You just kind of
make things that make you go and they bug you,
right that the story that that happened you will bug
you for the.

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
Rest of your life life.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah, who was that guy? And have you ever had
anything like that happened?

Speaker 7 (01:47:29):
Nick? N Nobody has come up to me. I mean,
I've worked for the federal government and I know certain
things that they do and they don't do. And you know,
it's just that I've had many reports, you know, of
people sending stuff to the Smithsonian and you know, very

(01:47:49):
jaded to doing anything like that. Yeah, I'll have to
just save up my my nickels and dimes and send
it to the veterinarian that I know who will do
a DNA right.

Speaker 6 (01:48:02):
I wish I would have waited, you know, yeah, I
would that bone. Who's to say it wouldn't have ended
up missing anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
You know, say one a compliment both of you guys too,
for the both have really great audio. I appreciate it.
It's like stellar audio.

Speaker 7 (01:48:23):
What I want to say, Doug is that this is
another reason why a lot of people do not want
to come out with it, and they don't want to
share what they have found, and you know, they don't
want it to be taken from them. I don't think
Jay wants to get into it. I'll just touch on
it briefly. He knows somebody that has a finger that

(01:48:45):
was most likely taken from a Sasquatch. Yeah, that person
doesn't doesn't want to have anything to do with the
rest of the world about you know, sharing it. No. Uh,
there's a lot of people out there, and you know,
I mean with all the reports that the IDP gets
and other agencies get, you know, I'm calling them agencies,

(01:49:06):
other organizations out there, they get people don't really want
their fifteen minutes of fame. They just want to report
that and they want to get it off their chest.
We saw this, you know, and this is what I saw,
and I want to report it to you, and we
do the best. We cand to write it all down

(01:49:27):
to you know, put it out there so our members
can see where this came from. Every once in a while,
I'll get people asking me, gee, I just moved to
such and such an area. Any reports, you know, And
I'll go through the archives and I'll see what was
reported and I'll say, you know, for instance, I told
this one fellow you about ten miles away from where

(01:49:49):
you are, and he told me, well, ten miles is
just too close. So he moved again, just moved to
an area and then he moved out, you know. Not
something they want to want to go through, Not something
they want to put up with.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
MM. So, do you guys feel that these mysteries will
be helped by some of the UFO disclosure going on
that people are going to be going, Oh, I guess
it's okay if I talk about dog Man or you know,
call this guy or tell people, because that used to

(01:50:26):
be laughed at too. All the time. The UFO mystery
was so laughed at. I mean, it was terrible, and
you know, I was giggle, giggle, giggle, And now it's
kind of taken a more serious, much more serious tone.
Do you think that cryptids will be helped by the
serious tone with the other mystery, which is, you know,

(01:50:48):
these weird lights in the sky and craft?

Speaker 6 (01:50:50):
I think eventually, eventually maybe, I think the you know,
as far as the UFO reports and all the evidence
of uf UAPs. Excuse me, he's the proper term, now,
you know. I think the people talking about cryptids, you know,
he's a little bit behind that. So I think it'll

(01:51:12):
catch up in the next you know, maybe five ten years.
That's just my opinion, just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
Interesting, So okay, let's just switch gears a little bit
and talk about bigfoot.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
Sure have you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Guys both had an encounter? Well, a bigfoot? Obviously you have, Jay,
But how about your neck any any No.

Speaker 7 (01:51:38):
I've tried, Like I said, I've been up to Oregon,
Washington State, Canada. I've only heard the tree knocks and
her tree knocks getting closer and closer and closer. Like
I said, I've seen the upside down trees that are
shoved into the earth. I don't know how that could
be a possibility. Yeah, when you were asking Jay about

(01:51:59):
you know, the sasquatch before and how strong it could
be in big well, you know, look at a gorilla,
how strong one of those things can be? Straight and
now taken into account, a fifteen foot sasquatch. I know
there was on one of the shows, I don't know

(01:52:21):
if it was on History Channel or not, where a
logging company they were out doing their thing right near
the river and a tree that was maybe twenty four
to twenty eight inches around ten feet long came sailing
out of the forest in their direction. And that was

(01:52:45):
a big thing. It was reported. And you know what
they did was they went and tried to find out
how strong could this thing possibly be? They got an
FX guy from Hollywood to create a mechanical machine to
try to throw a log that large, you know, the
same distance that this one traveled, and they couldn't do it.

(01:53:08):
They couldn't do it. So you tell me, guys, how
to heckt do this thing come flying out of the forest?
You know at the loggers?

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Is that the one that's there's actually footage, yes of it.

Speaker 7 (01:53:21):
I've seen it, yes, seeing that one, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Pretty compelling, guys, Yeah, it is very compelling and it's old.
It's from way back. Yeah, I believe it was shot
in VHS.

Speaker 6 (01:53:38):
It was so old.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
Yeah, I involved in that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
No, No, absolutely not, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
I'm sorry I've been hogging all the questions. Here go
shoot away, Jeff. Do you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
You want to talk about some of this me?

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
These?

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
Uh you sent me shame?

Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
Yeah, yeah, definitely what what?

Speaker 7 (01:54:06):
What?

Speaker 11 (01:54:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
I actually have the number?

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Put the phone first. We were already talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Is this this the right picture?

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
Yeah, there should be a few of them there I
sent you. Yeah, yeah, No, those are those right there
are are rodent, you know, some type of rodent. But
the bigger ones on the other side. Having that bone
in front of me like these, I mean, much bigger
than you can't picture does not do it justice. The

(01:54:39):
these teeth, teeth parts and indentations were three times the
size of my teeth. Three times.

Speaker 7 (01:54:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
And it's normally I think just porcupines and mice thing
exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
And yes, I tell you one thing about these bones
was they they there were sticks pushed down down in
the middle of themself, you know, like something had tried
to scrape out the bone. Marrow sure, yep. And I
don't know any uh, you know animal with a hand
that can do that like we can.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
There was a there was another gentleman I can't think
of his name, forgive me who's out west. He was
in Oregon or Washington who was studying or had looked
at and found a lot of bones with like human
like teeth marks on them. What what do you know?
His name? I don't remember Mitchell Mitchell. His name was Mitchell.

(01:55:43):
His last name, Yeah, I believe that was Mitchell. Just
that's the only part of his name I can get right.
But he was investigating. I don't think he ended up
getting a ton of interest, which is kind of weird,
because a tooth mark is you know, it's something's gotta
make it.

Speaker 6 (01:56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Yeah, Have you ever taken like Plato or Clay and
tried to cast some of the teeth marks? You could
see it positive.

Speaker 6 (01:56:10):
I wish I would have.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I wish the schools were all sent off and gone.

Speaker 6 (01:56:15):
Now gone gone. Gosh makes me sick, It just makes
me sick.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:56:23):
OK, I got an idea what happened to him, but
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Exactly That is weird. What else you got, Jeff?

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
This is a pretty crazy picture, a little graphic, so
be warned, looks like a deer carcass up in a tree.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
That was the one we had the big debate about
on Facebook the other day. Now, Doug and I you,
you and I talked about this, Nick and I you
have talked about it myself. This happened okay on Buddy's
uh farm, who Nick and I have interviewed three separate times.
It's very credible. Excellaw Enforcement xx Military Combat Marine. He

(01:57:11):
now owns an eighty acre farm parcel and it is
inhabited by a group of eight Sasquats and during part
of the year, like my experiences up here, during the
winter time, that's when the sasquatch leaves the dog men command.

(01:57:32):
Giving credence to my statement early let's take off the
dog man come in and that I'm I'm just speaking
for up here. That's you know, that's all. But anyway,
this thing was sixteen feet up in the tree and
three times in a six month period, same limb, same
tree each time, So that that to me is compelling.

(01:57:58):
Could now the big the big thing people online, Okay,
what they were trying to say was this, this was
done by a mountain lion.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
It was not.

Speaker 6 (01:58:08):
When I first got this picture, took this picture, you know,
I put it on I put it on Facebook, and
I got the same responses. Well, the gentleman I was
talking about earlier, he also knew, you know, he knew
more people, more scientists and whatnot. And he we sent

(01:58:30):
him this picture. Uh, this biologist and big tat expert.
He was describing to us how jaguars and leopards are made.
They are made for dragging kills like this up in
the tree, okay, and stashing mainly from lions, right, you know,

(01:58:52):
whereas they had, yeah, and they have the jaw muscles,
and they have the hip muscles, the spine. They're built
for that, you know. And this is not for me,
This is not from anyone else. This is from a
PG big cat expert at a university. And they, you know,
like I said, they have the jaws, the hips, the back,

(01:59:13):
you know, the back, and the muscles. You know, they're
they're just built for it. Whereas cougars, mountain lions whatever
you want to call them, will bury usual ninety percent
of the time, they will bury their kill. Like he
told me, he's not saying, they don't ever do it,
but it would have to be a pretty darn big male,
you know, to drag a large you know, deer up

(01:59:38):
into the treaty. And this thing is pretty much mutilated,
this this one in particular on right here the bones.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
Yeah, it looks like it's torn in two, torn.

Speaker 6 (01:59:46):
And torn to pieces, torn to pieces, yeah, just nothing.
And it had been torn to pieces like by nothing
of any other predator I had ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
It looks like it's torn apart with hands, is what
it looks like.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
You very much. That's just what I was going to
say next.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Yes, absolutely, because when you know I've I've seen captive
cougars eat deer kills, right, I was involved in a
capture of a cougar that big debate whether it was
wild or somebody's release pit. But it would only eat innocence.
And the kills that would eat were very compact. It

(02:00:25):
was never like this or it was torn. You know,
they would they would they would eat it, but not
like God, it wouldn't look like this. That looks mutilated,
like you said. And so what was what was the
conclusion from Nick on this? Nick? What do you think

(02:00:46):
about that? My?

Speaker 7 (02:00:48):
When I was looking at that, I was saying, is
that a dog man's kill? Yeah, very and strong enough
to pull it up there. Yeah, we've had well in
the past. That family of four that was attacked in
landby between the Lakes. The daughter was found in a tree, yeah,

(02:01:09):
some two hundred yards away from where their trailer was. So,
and there's been other reports over the years, actually over
the decades of you know, large animals found dead in
the trees. And like Jay said, you know, that would
have had have been an awfully large male and at that,

(02:01:32):
I mean an unusually large male cat to be bringing
that up into nas And then the way that thing
was torn apart, It's just that's not the way a
cat normally ripped something apart. No, no, not the way
it would normally rip it apont at all.

Speaker 6 (02:01:48):
It's not it's not and granted, and not one other
or other piece. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you
off there. But up here, I'm in the Okay, I'm
right at the edge of the uh Adiron Dick Park,
but right near the entrancey Adiron Dick Park and the
seaway on the other side is the Saint Lawrence Seaway Valley,

(02:02:10):
and so we're right and we're right there. We get
the best of both worlds because they're both very squatchy
and a lot of a lot of sightings and in
both areas. So I get the best of both worlds.
I get the valley and I get the mountains, you know,
and we have a Mohawk reservation down the road, and
they we get a lot of reports off the Mohawk

(02:02:30):
reservation as far as Sasquatch. There's supposed to be a
family group of them down there right now. So yeah,
there's a lot of sightings up here of above, both
both types.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
And you know, I almost tell people, you know, people,
well people, they don't know anything about any of these mysteries, aboot,
and you got to kind of give them the log
line kind of explanation. I just usually talk about it's
a geographic problem where people see these in certain geographic

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areas where there's corridors and streams and water and hills
and forests, but they generally don't. They don't see them
on the cities. They don't, you know what I mean.
If it was if it was a demographic problem, they'd
be spotting them everywhere downtown LA. But it's a geographic issue.

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And do you agree with that, Nick that it's very GEWU.

Speaker 7 (02:03:34):
Agree with it. I mean, because there's really nothing for them,
you know, in a city, no reason why you know,
they would go by there. I had one of our
members down in South Jersey who lived in a city
that spotted a dog man. But it was in the
forest area, Like here's the edge of the city and

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there's that's where the forest started. Uh, And she reported
it on three different occasions and one of her co workers,
a male coworker, was actually scared by it on one
night also, So I mean, you know, you're absolutely right.
I mean, there are going to be in areas where
they can grab food that is known to them, you know,

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get get the water quickly, you know, and where they
can you know, either burrows or caves or you know whatnot,
you know, where they can rest also, right, And.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
To make it clear what I meant when they say
a city, Yeah, the edge of suburbs for sure, and
even maybe on the edge of a city if it's
butts up to a river, a wooded, huge wooded area
where there's a quick escape into the into the forest. Fine, yeah,
but I'm talking in the middle of downtown LA or Minia. Well,
you're not going to get sightings there. You would if

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this was all imaginary.

Speaker 6 (02:04:56):
That's the first.

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
Place you'd see. That's the first place. The sighting was
a gum in after someone someone drinking at the bar
and he's there's a dog.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
Yeah, yeah, it never happens.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Ever, why is it so perfect? Always next to water,
next to lon big Bigfoot. You'll never get a sighting
past five hundred yards from water. Ever, No, there's somebody
to find one, you just don't. They're always right by water.
Usually it's you know, one hundred yards less than fifty yards.

(02:05:29):
It's too coincidental to say, oh, okay, we have thousands
of sightings and they're all within one hundred yards of
a pond or a stream or a creek. Right, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
As a matter of fact, I sent another set of
pictures I said today was some tree structures and stuff
off of an investigation that I went on and right
on that property they had mar that spring that looks
like a fence, yes, looks like a blinding spot, yeah yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
A blind deer blind yeah yeah. I think a lot
of these tree structure are just that, just a break. Well,
they'll do is put them by a game trail and
they'll just leave them there for a while until whenever
the deer just get used to them, and then they'll
at some point come in stand behind it or near it,
and you know they here come the deer down there trail,

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just like they always doing. They you know, that thing's
been there a while, and then they gravel.

Speaker 6 (02:06:26):
Yeah, the weird part about this investigation was, uh, well
we one of the weirder parts. You know, it was
all weird, but yeah, Roger.

Speaker 2 (02:06:41):
Send me one.

Speaker 6 (02:06:44):
The the ladies. The lady who owned the property and
the residence. She noticed and told her her her daughter.
She said, listen, they are these things, whatever they are,
are making these mounds in the yard, and they're taking

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I forget the little grand I might wouldn't say his
name on the air anyway, you see, he's a child,
but little we'll just say little Johnny. They're taking little
Johnny's toys and putting him in the middle of these
mountains and every and that was dragged somewhere from somewhere else.
Because you can see the root ball right there and
it was jammed in between you know, the true But anyway, yeah,

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you know, Okay, we're coming up to it, so you'll
be able to see the toys inside the mound soon.
And these things were showing up. We would go to
bed and there wouldn't be any We'd wake up, see
the handle of guard of the little tricycle, yeah in
the middle. Yeah, and we wake up and there they
would be there.

Speaker 7 (02:07:48):
There.

Speaker 1 (02:07:48):
You go, well.

Speaker 6 (02:07:53):
Wow, yeah, just the yeah, toys and everything in the middle.
Just the weirdest.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
It's so weird.

Speaker 6 (02:08:01):
Yeah, you know, which makes you wonder what they were
trying to convey and they did that, you know, Yeah,
that's something in mind, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
And that teeth structure. I've never seen one of those.

Speaker 6 (02:08:15):
Yeah, that was very interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Oh it's see uh Todd Big with New York. Todd
said he's just filmed one of these last week. That
is what's cool is that this stuff is everywhere. It's
so consistent. Yes, you know, it isn't like, oh, this
is just a phenomena in your neck of the woods.

(02:08:37):
It's here in Minnesota, it's in Michigan, it's in Pennsylvania,
it's everywhere west the same behaviors. It's that consistency that
just you know, drives me nuts. So okay, So one
of the questions I wanted to ask you, Nick, what

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do you tell if somebody you know, you're at a
party and people ask, what do you do you get
on this topic of your research and what do you
tell them to kind of what's your best argument to
let people give them something to really think about and
consider the reality of these things.

Speaker 7 (02:09:20):
My thing is to do research fourteen research and you know,
research cryptozoology. And I tell them, I said, you know,
most people don't want to tell you what they saw.
They saw something, something unusual. They don't want to tell you.
And why is that? Because people are going to think
they're crazy. They might be going for a higher up job,

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you know where they work, and who's going to want
to make them vice president? If they're talking about saying sasquatch?
I mean, help the guys crazy. If you're a doctor,
and there's been sightings by doctors of squads out there,
if you're a doctor, people are not going to want
to come to you. You're the crazy doctor who wants
to come to you. Right. There's one doctor who was
a very famous uh plastic surgeon in California. He was

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pulled over one night and stopped and he had a
forty four magnum uh in the passenger seat, and the officers,
you know, he showed them, you know, he had the
license and everything for it. Officers said, why do you
have it out? He goes, because I'm going home and
when I go down my driveway, they're in my backyard
and I need to protect myself from them if they

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try to come at me. This was This was in
newspapers years ago. So, I mean, people don't really want
their fifteen minutes of fame, you know. People say, oh, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know you you think that they're out there and
this and that, and how come there's no real no
dead bodies, you know, how come we have.

Speaker 1 (02:10:46):
Found like this or that.

Speaker 7 (02:10:48):
Well, I'm gonna be honest with you, how many times
have you seen a bare bones found out in the
in the wild bears? Yeah, you don't see a carcass
because nature claims itself and quickly the buzzards will come down,
The animals will come Do you know that deer will
eat bone for the minerals and the cow say, deer

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will do that. And then after everybody's finished, then you
got the Then you got the little microbes over there
jumping on it, and it starts to dissolve. The ants
get in on it. Everybody gets in on a dead body.
So you see, when people, you know, argue about something,
I listen to what they say, and then I tell

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them what I feel about it. You know, hey, look
you gotta think. You think about this, but think about that,
think about this this stuff here. How did this happen?
And how did that happen? Something I like to throw
at your people who maybe they don't know too much
about crypto zoology or cryptids. Uh in reference to sasquatch, bigfoot.

(02:11:51):
Don't feed them, Do not feed them, Never give them
food of any sort. You want to trade trader, that's fine,
Do not give them any food, because the second you
stopped giving them food, they're going to get mad. And
I went on one case where the lady thought she
had dog men in her backyard and I had I

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gave the case over to Jay. It was in New York,
in upstate New York there, and what happened was it
was turned out to be a sasquatch. Turned out that
this lady was leading apples on a You know how
when you cut a tree you got like three feet left,
you know, and then you still got the roots inside.
And she was leaving apples on top of that every day.

(02:12:36):
Then her parents got sick, she was away for a while.
She came back. She had an area that her father
built for her. He had sunk four by fours forty
two inches into the ground to make a caged in
area for her garbage cans so that the raccoons wouldn't
get to it, and he topped it with wire. All

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that stuff was ripped or by fours were ripped out
of the ground, and she was blaming it on dog man.
And what I found out when I went there one
night with a few of my fellows that it wasn't
a dog man actually, And she had pictures of the
eyeshine in the backyard, and the pictures were approximately well,

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the eyes were about twenty four feet off the ground.
So I'm figuring she had something that was twenty five
feet tall, and that's no dog man, or as I'm concerned,
the only place I've heard of a twenty five foot
cryptid would be in Alaska where they had where they
had reports of twenty six foot you know, tall cryptids.

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And this is by researchers who heavily researched sasquatch in
that area. So we're talking about New York State area. Now,
I had to give that one over to Jay. And
I mean this lady was, she was beside herself. She
just wanted that was done in her backyard and everything.

Speaker 6 (02:14:02):
Yeah, she ended up moving. I told I told you
that she ended up moving.

Speaker 7 (02:14:06):
She was. Her front door was twenty six feet away
from a major highway, yes, you know, a major roadway. Yep. Right,
and her neighbors on the right and left, Uh, we're
a little bit. I guess they're about three hundred feet
away each one, because they had a lot of land
over there, and her backyard was mode. It was like

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it was like a one hundred feet by one hundred
feet flat and in the back with where that one
tree was where she was putting the apples. Yeah, and
so folks, if you want to trade trinkets, you know,
shiny pennies and quarters and stuff or marbles, that's fine,
but never food. Don't do food because they went totally.

Speaker 6 (02:14:51):
The thing is, you know people think that they feed.
The thing is I'm going to catch craft for this
one too, But oh well, these things are not all nice, okay,
all the Sasquatch. Okay they and people tend to think
nowadays that they are all nice. Well they are not.
I can tell you that firsthand. You know some of them,

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they all don't want to sit around the fire and
sing kumbay on play the fiddle, you know, they don't
want to sit down and you know, break bread with you.
You know, they aren't all nice. Granted, some of them,
the ones I have on my property, are like a
bunch of hippies. But I also have other spots where
I research where you can feel the tension in the
air because these things are so aggressive, you know, throwing

(02:15:37):
seventy pounds boulders after throwing logs at you, you know,
and they know right where to put them to, right
in front of your feet, you know. So yeah, they
aren't all nice, you know, I can see or you know,
some of them are just want to be left alone.
But others are not so nice. You come into the area,
and even the nicer ones, we'll escort you out of
the wood. And I say that, and the nicest very possible,

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they will escort you out of the woods if you
interrupt them, or they don't want you there.

Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
So how much danger or do do you think people
are in unaware of these Let's just talk about dog
men specifically. Are there any you know, valid reports that
you guys trust in actual danger, you know, where they've
really hurt somebody or taken somebody. What are your thoughts

(02:16:25):
or is it just all speculation?

Speaker 7 (02:16:28):
Well, it's not exactly speculation. But the thing is with
the dog man, he's a step above where people actually
think they are brain wise. They're smart. They know if
they kill in this day and age, if they kill anybody,
and you know that that's going to be it? What

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what the What the humans would do is not stop
until they eradicate them. Then they would start hunting him
all over the place. Therefore, they just try to stay
unto themselves. They kill, you know, the deer, small animals
and such, and fish and things like that, but they
don't interact. And there's not a lot of them. You know,

(02:17:11):
you might have, I don't know. I can give a
funny estimate to say maybe ten thousand of the entire
United States probably less stupid. They know this, they know
the fact, and they don't want to get involved with humans.

Speaker 2 (02:17:28):
Are there any states that are exempt from sightings, And
are there certain states that have far more sightings like
in Bigfoot, we have a ton in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah,
but that could be cultural too, because people are more
likely to report them in those areas.

Speaker 6 (02:17:45):
But in my opinion, Dog, I think, you know, there's
different types of these things. And I'm not just talking
about around the world and talking about within North America itself.
There's a lot more types of these things that people think,
you know, just for example, you know, after having experiences
up here in the Adirondacks, I you know, my wife

(02:18:05):
and I lived in North Carolina for a few years
and we had a lot of action down there too.
I don't know if it was from experience and knowing
where to look and whatnot knowing what to do, but
and my wife too as a researcher, So I don't
know if it was that or if there's something more
to it than that.

Speaker 7 (02:18:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:18:26):
I don't think I'll breach that topic tonight, but I
there might could be more to it than that, like
more what's the word I'm looking for here? As far
as like these things tagging, if you you see one

(02:18:47):
in a certain area and you go to another area
miles and hundreds of miles away, you will have that
much more better luck seeing one, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
Yeah, what about Stammure? There any states still? I'm not
sure I got the answer I was looking for. Are
there any states in our favorite areas where people where
there's more sightings? I always hear Texas come up.

Speaker 7 (02:19:11):
As Texas is. Yeah, I would say more the central
to southeast areas of the United States more dog man however, there,
Like I said, I had the dog man sighting in
New Jersey. I went up to Maine to visit our group,

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our charter group up there years ago because there was
dog man sighting up there. We were up there for
three days, you know, trying to track it down. I
don't think there's any state that's really exempt from any
of these. Really went through all the archives and seeing
where they're located. If you go through Google, they have

(02:19:54):
dog man maps and sasquatch maps that you can check
out and it gives and if you click on that
the one specific area, it'll tell you a little bit
about what happened and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:20:05):
But aren't most of the maps are so incomplete, Like
I know, a ton of dog man sightings and the
dog man. The one map I can find for somebody
doing research here in Minnesota. It's like, you know, they
have maybe a hundredth of how many sightings have actually happened, right.

Speaker 6 (02:20:23):
I think that that would be the case just about
anywhere dog you know. I think for every report Nick
can I get, you know, there's probably twenty thirty more
that you don't get reported.

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
So do you you know what percentage Nick, do you
think people are reporting of a sighting dog man. I
would think it'd be quite small.

Speaker 7 (02:20:41):
I'm gonna say five percent, Yeah, because people don't want
to seem crazy. And you guys, I have to tell
you this. I mean, I moved from New Jersey to
North Carolina, and I got a report just after I
got got off the air when we we went on
before to check our mics and everything, and I went
out with a couple of members from our local chapter

(02:21:03):
to Falls of Noose River in uh, justin Raleigh area
and uh because we had a report of a dog
man sighting up there.

Speaker 11 (02:21:13):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:21:13):
You know it was it was pretty heavily dark out
and everything, but you know, we went anyway just to
check it out and see what was going on. And
just to speak to the people that had the reported
sighting right there on the river. So I mean, look,
it's happening all the time, every day.

Speaker 2 (02:21:30):
Yeah, do you Okay, A couple of questions that come
to mind. So we've talked about you guys. Think you
both agree kind of maybe ten thousand of these things
in the country or does that include Canada.

Speaker 6 (02:21:45):
I'd say more as far as North America total.

Speaker 7 (02:21:48):
Yeah, with sasquatching and combining Canada, you're gonna have more.
But I think there's more sasquatch. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
And I'm always stop between one and five percent of
reports get even a big of it. It's just people
don't want it. They don't need to talk about it,
don't you know.

Speaker 6 (02:22:08):
I didn't for years.

Speaker 2 (02:22:10):
They're scared new I didn't talk. I didn't tell anybody.
I mean, if that saw that mothman thing, we didn't
tell anybody for years, years and years nobody. Finally I
told Lon Strickler, and then I thought, well, it didn't
feel so bad, hell go ahead and release it. I
don't give it crap, you know, like whatever, people want

(02:22:31):
to laugh whatever, I.

Speaker 1 (02:22:33):
Had a witness.

Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
Do you also, that's that's a great question, do you
often or have you ever had double witnesses see you
have a good dog man sighting.

Speaker 6 (02:22:46):
Like oh yes, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Do you want to relay one or is there I
hate putting you on the spot.

Speaker 7 (02:22:53):
No, I had one, and this is going back a
few years ago. It's just above. It's in central Pennsylvania,
just above where they have those the casinos, and on
a certain road up there that came to a tee.

(02:23:13):
There was cornfields on either side. I got seven reports
within a ten day period, so seven different I don't
want to say persons, because one was a couple, you know,
married couple. Another one was two friends, and it was
just too many reports to ignore at the time. Dog

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man crossing right across from one cornfield into another. Now
the married couple reported that the dog man. The wife
tapped her husband and said, look, he looked over and
there was a dog man pacing their car. They were
going thirty five miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (02:23:54):
Yeah, I've heard these stories.

Speaker 7 (02:23:56):
Heard miles an hour. And the husband put his foot
down and he was up to forty five point fifty
it was still pacing. He jammed it down and they
went straight down this road and he finally lost it,
and what they found later on was that there was
a claw mark on the side of their car, on
the passenger side, in the back. So they hit the

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tee and then they took off and they went home.
They reported it. So that was a couple and they
both saw it. And there was two friends. These two
guys they both saw going across from one cornfield into
another and it was all on this one road. So yeah,
sometimes you do get doubles, you do.

Speaker 3 (02:24:41):
Yah.

Speaker 7 (02:24:41):
One time we had four people, four hunters saw a
dog man, you know, and unfortunately I didn't get to
talk to them individually, which is what I would have
wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (02:24:51):
Did you guys hear that story? I know Wes had
on a biologist who was hunting and he claimed he
shot a dog man. Did you ever hear that? No,
it didn't die. No, it's like it didn't even phase it.
He said he could say he knew he hit it,

(02:25:12):
but he was claiming to be a biologist, and he
sounds really critical. If they haven't found that one, you
might want to look it up. It's on subsquatch chronicles.

Speaker 7 (02:25:22):
I don't know it's yeah to read. But the thing
is you got to remember Doug that you know, first
of all, why did he shoot it? Was it being aggressive?

Speaker 6 (02:25:32):
And what did number?

Speaker 7 (02:25:35):
You know, what did he shoot it with? Because look
at what we're talking about, a six hundred pound dog man.
The bones are super thick, the hide is thick. It's
all muscle, no practically no zero fat. It doesn't eat
cakes and sugars like we you know we eat. I mean,
this thing is gigantic in size. You shoot that with

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a two two three, you're not going to do very
much to it. Which is why when we go out,
you know, on on foot into the forest areas, we
all have ten millimeter glocks and we also use three
oh eight with a two hundred grain bullet because if
it's gonna stop a bear, you figure maybe maybe, just

(02:26:18):
maybe you might have a chance of you know, defending
yourself against a dog man.

Speaker 6 (02:26:23):
Yeah, And that's the thing, Nick. We don't know, like
we've talked about several times, we don't know how thick
that muscle is, that layer, those layer muscles. We don't
know how thick their best plate is. You know, it
could be like steel for all.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
You know, you know what I mean, my favorite side
army carry I'm out and like even Google Country or
Grizzly Country is a four fifty four magnum wheel. Gun Man,
that thing's got some it's a beast.

Speaker 1 (02:26:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's I got at carry.

Speaker 7 (02:26:56):
Yeah, I wouldn't use it. Forty five too slow, big
a bullet. You want penetration. You don't want any sort
of hollow point. You want you want to ball ammo.
You don't want anything less than that. You need penetration.

Speaker 2 (02:27:12):
It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (02:27:13):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:27:14):
I was going to mention the correlation I noticed many
years ago that started with the Beasts of the Brave
Road reports, and I gave dog man witnesses light detector tests.
I don't know if you're aware of that.

Speaker 6 (02:27:29):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (02:27:30):
Oh? Yeah, by one of the toughest I heard. Yeah,
it was years ago. It was like two thousand and
eight or nine, two thousand and eight. I did it.
Hired a guy who had no sense of humor polygraph operator,
and I think I did five witnesses. They all passed

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except one was just kind of neutral. But they all passed,
and some of them were multi witnesses. But I noticed
years ago maybe a correlation by where there were forests
and cornfields, and I thought, well, what's that? What's what's

(02:28:10):
the corn? And then I thought about it, and I thought, well,
maybe it's because deer are kind of hanging around cornfields too,
and if they hunt deer, they're not eating the corn.
They're after the deer that are eating the corn. Is
that something you've noticed too? Cornfields?

Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
Yeah? Near mind, it's a pretty heavily reported, uh you know,
fact that they're in that area, in the cornfield area.

Speaker 2 (02:28:33):
How about how about where you saw yours, Nick? Were
there cornfields or farms?

Speaker 7 (02:28:37):
No forest area? Like I said, the Lenape Indians used
to inhabit that area one hundred years ago, and they
did have a burial grounds up there, which is protected.
It's it's a county park up there, and it's it's protected.
So it's a heavily forested area at that mountaintop. So

(02:28:58):
that's you know, that's my theory anyway, that maybe it's
it was up there protecting the burial grounds.

Speaker 2 (02:29:07):
So, and I'm not laughing about that. I think he's
kind of joking. But he said, so a high powered
flashlight and bear spray and airhorn isn't your best line
of defense.

Speaker 7 (02:29:17):
I agree with I agree with him. Bear spray here
because that's one of the things I'll take up there.
I take a hypersonic whistle, you know. Up there, I
carry a lot of things with me. Besides that, I
carry an electronic flash bank, actually two of them. You know.
I won't set it off because it's gonna the decibel

(02:29:38):
level will blow out the microphone over here, and you
got twelve hundred lumens flashing. Anything to distract and give
me a couple of seconds advantage if it's attacking.

Speaker 2 (02:29:49):
So Sovereign goes. Corn is definitely a factor.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:29:54):
They're both dog Man for dog Man too.

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
Oh yeah, probably sure. Yeah, I interviewed God, I remember
I interviewed two gals when they were young. They were
confronted by a bigfoot in a cornfield, yes, that they
were playing in. Yeah, man, they were traumatized. I mean
they told me the story. They were both crying.

Speaker 6 (02:30:18):
I can imagine the difference as being like you said,
one of you two just said that, you know, with
the dog men in the cornfield, and like you're talking
about with Nick, they were going in there for the dear,
you know, whereas the sasquatch will. The reports I've had
they'll sit right down and mow down on that corn,
you know. And I'm sure take a few deer here

(02:30:40):
and there, you know, in the cornfields. But you know,
and I've also a very interesting thing. There was a
story coming out of northern California where this marijuana farmer
had been noticing, you know, the big long buds taken
off the top of its plants, and then he found
two of his workers ripped apart. And I don't know this,
this could be just a rumor, but I read it.

(02:31:02):
I wasn't a personal report. It was when I read
online and get the guy noticed that, you know, he
had been noticing these his part parts of his plants missing,
and before long he his workers started to disappear. He'd
find the remains of them and uh yeah, yeah, they

(02:31:23):
were eating the eating the marijuana.

Speaker 2 (02:31:26):
Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (02:31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31:28):
Yeah, I've heard of other marijuana growing operations in the
forests that have had bigfoot and get talk man activity.
That was funny. One of them asked me a question.
They said, we keep finding these big white turns on
our property. What are those? And I said, is there

(02:31:48):
a is there a pond on the property? Bunny chance
with like crappies and the guy goes, yeah, we have
a pond with crappies, and I went, yeah, that's why
I said. The croppies will turn the feces white, and
you know, and it just just made so much sense

(02:32:10):
to the guy. He's like, oh my god, that's pretty good. So, okay,
was you talking about corn danger? Oh? Somebody had asked
about is there any odor ever associated with a dog
Man sighting? Any odors reported.

Speaker 7 (02:32:26):
Yeah, question. Yeah, Like with my sighting, it smelled like
a mixture of blood and urine. It was a really
bad smell. Didn't smell a poop or anything. And I've had,
oh god, maybe fifty to sixty other witnesses that said
the same thing. Because, like I said, when I interview people,

(02:32:48):
I will ask them all the same questions over and
over everybody that I've interviewed, and that's what I've hit upon.
It does smell like a mixture of blood and urine.
That's a nasty copper.

Speaker 2 (02:33:02):
Kind of a mentality.

Speaker 7 (02:33:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:33:06):
Another question, has Nick and Jay ever heard of a
sighting with both dog Man and Bigfoot?

Speaker 6 (02:33:15):
You know she had We did an interview where a
lady had has seen them together.

Speaker 2 (02:33:22):
Yeah, anyfo you want to share on that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:27):
Just where she sees them on her property there, she's
seen one particular dog man. It travels with a group
of asquatchs and she I think it, you know, could
could have been maybe its parents were killed at an
early age or I don't know who knows why this
is why it's happening. But she said they run together.

(02:33:50):
And I've got no reason to doubt her because she's
always been incredible witness for Nick and I, so I
I totally believe it, Okay, But interviewed, generally, ye, it'll
be what a rogue.

Speaker 7 (02:34:04):
Yeah, generally it wouldn't be happening that way because they
really don't play well together. Now, I look at the
land between the lakes Kentucky and Tennessee. Uh, Tennessee has
mostly dog men, Kentucky has more sasquatch. And then there's
a certain area that's common to both Kentucky and Tennessee
lbl area that that you will have a mixture of

(02:34:27):
the two of them passing, passing by, but never interacting
with each other. That's a that's a rarity, that's a
rare rarity.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
Yeah. Yeah, any what dog smells from these things?

Speaker 7 (02:34:39):
Not that I've had recorded.

Speaker 6 (02:34:42):
I have heard it coming out of sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (02:34:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:34:46):
If me personally, I've never found I never smelled an
order from a Sasquatch, and I've had three encounters and
two sightings. I never I personally have never gotten that order.
You know, I don't know it could have It could
be a glandular thing for all we know. Yeah, of course,
we don't really know a lot about them yet.

Speaker 2 (02:35:05):
Yeah. I doubt it's hygiene. The animals are usually quite clean.
It's just usually there's probably some gland that they have
that they like.

Speaker 6 (02:35:12):
The other ones I've seen, and I'll get about the
other encounters later, but these were very groomed.

Speaker 7 (02:35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
That's another thing too, we've we've talked about in the
past that do you would think most of them would
be groomed. I interviewed a guy who also had had
seen often dog men and bigfoots on his property, and
it was interesting because he didn't know his neighbor who

(02:35:43):
had also had the same kind of experiences, which is interesting.
He had never even met, right, And that's when it
gets real interesting. When you find a homestead that's got
activity and you go out and you start knocking on
doors and just getting the reaction way. It's it's it's
kind of interesting because they're like, oh really, oh I

(02:36:05):
thought that was only us, And that really confirms both
of them, you know, both feel bit. I was like, well,
you need to go down and meet you know, your
neighbor because it make you both feel better.

Speaker 6 (02:36:18):
Yeah, it gets credibility to both of them.

Speaker 2 (02:36:20):
Yeah, of course tons of credibility and a both the
chances of that happening by accident are really really slim.
Anyhow Okay, we're gonna we're gonna cut this out. I
could interview you guys all night. You guys are awesome.
I want to get you both back because we probably
just skimmed the.

Speaker 7 (02:36:39):
Surface talking.

Speaker 2 (02:36:44):
For sure, but you guys are absolutely incredible.

Speaker 6 (02:36:48):
I mean, guys are both appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (02:36:51):
My experience with the Jersey Devil the next time I come.

Speaker 2 (02:36:53):
On, well, come on, dang it, go ahead, let it
hang all right, we'll get you back on then we'll
get your booked. You guys are amazing and I really
appreciate your great audio too. Yeah, you guys have what
do you guys have a podcast that you're doing?

Speaker 6 (02:37:13):
Yes, we do. Well, Yeah, our podcast is called On
the Trail in Search of Living Legends, Nick and I.
That's actually how Nick and I met. I was running
the podcast at the time with another gentleman, and uh,
he said, let's call Nick Blante. See how come on

(02:37:34):
for an interview. And I said, awesome. I said, that'll
be one of our first dog Man interviews. This is
when it had first started and I got Nick on,
and Nick we had to break Nick's episode up into
three different episodes because he had so much imp This
guy's got so much information.

Speaker 1 (02:37:50):
By dog Man.

Speaker 6 (02:37:50):
It's unbelievable. He's taught me everything I've known. I know
about these about dog Man. You know, we kind of
balance each other out, you know, with the Sasquatch and
the man, you know. But it's great working with Naked
like a big brother to me. It's a best friend.
We work great together and this show. We have a
great time doing this show together.

Speaker 2 (02:38:11):
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:38:13):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:38:14):
You never told me, Jay, you never did. I'll have
to give it a listen here. There'd be a lot
of good content there.

Speaker 1 (02:38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:38:25):
I can tell our YouTube channel later on and then.

Speaker 2 (02:38:29):
Tell us about the International dog Man Project a little
bit more. Nick you have a website that people can
go to.

Speaker 7 (02:38:36):
We can go to the International dog Man Project DASH USA.
We have we have about sixteen different chapters, and I
got to say we have IDP United Kingdom, I d
P Europe, going to be opening something up in New
Zealand and Australia, believe it or not. In Australia, we

(02:38:58):
have something like ninety seven members you know, out of Australia,
so I I got to open something up there. And
then we have IDP chapters throughout different states, you know,
like West Virginia, Maine, New York, you know, just just
to name a few places, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Missouri, noth
Carolina were spreading out here and there. I just need

(02:39:21):
to have the right people at the right places and
then we'll open up another chapter, you know, and in
the states that we're not open now, but we are,
like Jay said in the beginning, we're a no kill organization.
But you do have a right to go out into
the forest and research. And we don't just go one
or two or three miles. We go twelve, sometimes twenty

(02:39:42):
miles deep, you know, depending on where where you're at.
And we did we did, we do go out there
fully kitted up, and we're kind of ready for mostly
anything out there. You may not always come across the
sasquatch or a dog man might come across something else,
like a like a tick, like mosquitoes, like uh, a cougar,

(02:40:07):
a bear, coyote, you know, snakes. We wear gators, uh
so just in case, you know, from the knees down,
if you get you know, have a snake you shootout
at you. We definitely wear boots. We do not wear
tongs out there, you know, uh on our feet. You know.
Like we took a bunch of people out one time

(02:40:29):
and several of them showed up with beat shoes, you know,
and it's like you're not going to last long, you know,
And we just try to take precautions. But we try
to enjoy our time out there and document what we see,
and we try to do it in a forensic type style,
you know, so that we don't break the science if
we find something. We we we start from A and

(02:40:52):
we go all the way through Z you know, to
you know, keep the evidence so and we just try
to have fun while we're doing it.

Speaker 6 (02:41:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, next time are on. There's a couple
more videos I sent we'll have to pull up that
are pretty yeah, yeah, yeah, and if I can do
one more shout out dog, that'd be really okay. And well, yeah,
I'm Nick and I are really good friends with Daryl Thatton.
And oh, darl was a great Darrel's a great guy.

(02:41:21):
He's a great friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (02:41:22):
He's beyond a great guy.

Speaker 6 (02:41:24):
Yeah, you'd beyond a great guy. Uh. Just everyone out
there in the audience, look out, look out. In twenty
twenty six, Uh, Darryl Ron moorehead Ethan Oates, and Mike
Smith are coming out with a pretty good documentary movie.
So keep your eyes out out, keep your eyes out
open for that.

Speaker 1 (02:41:42):
Look.

Speaker 6 (02:41:43):
Sure, as far as Nick and I go, you you
haven't definitely haven't seen the end of us. We're we're
going to keep on trucking.

Speaker 1 (02:41:50):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:41:51):
Yeah it doesn't sound like it. Man, I had actually
had no idea. I'm so happy to meet you guys.

Speaker 6 (02:41:56):
Fine, yeah, it was just pleasure, pleasure, guys.

Speaker 2 (02:42:00):
Yeah, well it was all mine and thank you. Soone
just stand by. We're going to just do our quick
wisdom of the week and then we'll.

Speaker 6 (02:42:05):
Come back back.

Speaker 1 (02:42:06):
Yep, everybody, hang tight, real right back sure.

Speaker 3 (02:42:15):
It's now time for Untold Radio Am Wisdom of the Week.
Every week we rush around chasing something, whether it's a
solution to a problem or an answer to a question.
But the truth is, most of what we need is
already in front of us. We just move too fast
to notice it. Slow down once in a while, let
life breathe a little. When you give things space, clarity

(02:42:37):
shows up on its own, and the problems that felt
huge start to look more like puzzles that you can
actually solve.

Speaker 1 (02:42:45):
Good Night. We hope to see you all next week.

Speaker 3 (02:42:47):
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Speaker 1 (02:42:59):
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Speaker 3 (02:43:01):
Now back to Doug and Jeff for our rap.

Speaker 2 (02:43:07):
So I want to thank everybody in chat. Holy crap,
there's a lot of stuff coming in. Those are awesome
and you guys really really good luck to both you
and I will I'll love to get you back on
maybe February.

Speaker 6 (02:43:22):
That'd be worked for us.

Speaker 2 (02:43:24):
All right, awesome, and thanks so much, Nick, Thanks so much, Jay.

Speaker 6 (02:43:29):
And thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:43:32):
We will and we will talk soon. Stay in touch.

Speaker 6 (02:43:35):
Okay, bye everybody, and night everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:43:40):
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and bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

Speaker 13 (02:43:47):
You give me comfort, say just give it some time.

Speaker 4 (02:43:51):
By the end of the talk, I'm feeling just fine.
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Week airport, just doing the sun and bow wind with
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Speaker 13 (02:45:43):
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