Untold Radio AM #274 CRYPTID Paradox - LBL - BIGFOOT VOICES with Ron Morehead, Darrell Denton, and Stan Shumlick - Untold Radio Network

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tonight's guess the carol.

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Looking back on life that you leave him then.

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Resting home in the crowd, stick around through the crate
the feeling, go the fire, You'll be dancing around.

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All we hear is the sound.

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Of the tree him and no one cares where he's
coming from.

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My ears are still raining and feeding.

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I guess we are moved from the start. The days
not go. You know, one of these days will be

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the world.

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Lancers who wanted sast He's my on cono, my coast.

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Leading the fuse of the ashes the spirits.

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That afternoon, I looking down the house.

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Hello eighty who or you Joe good?

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But here we are.

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How is everybody in chat?

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And see everybody else?

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We love audience. Yeah, thanks for coming.

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Everybody, We sure appreciate it.

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So let's see here what do we got. So, you know,
if you're new here, welcome to the aold radio family.
If you're not, it's good to see you back. We
had a little mic issue here a few minutes ago.
Just isn't it just drive you crazy?

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I had this, I had it all set up.

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It's software. It's all software, last minute updates. Since I
sat down, I've got two updates on my Mac, two
of them. Oh and then all of a sudden, No,
just confirm my password. Why should I have to confirm
my password. I'm in my computer, never in It's insanity.

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So anyhow, tonight we've got a really extra special library.

Speaker 8 (03:21):
Great guests tonight.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, and so this is gonna be one of those
nights hopefully that we end up talking about a little
bit for a long time. Yeah, we have a true legend,
Ron moorehead. He is the curator of the Sierra Sound
Recordings from nineteen seventy one dead that was a long
time ago. And then he'll be joined by two other

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legendary guests, Darryl Dennon and Stam I'm not sure how
to pronounce Stan's name, you know, I know stand a
little bit. I think it's shumlick, but it might be
shumlick is an a or um. Well, we'll have to
ask Stan.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
I've got a really cool clip from ron To to
share later, so cool, he said, he sent me a
really good one, so good.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Looking forward to that, all right, And then we've got
a full night have We've got trivia clippex, Weird Fast Nude?
Did I say nude?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Weird? You did?

Speaker 8 (04:16):
Ude's Let's let's not the weird Fast Nude?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Oh my god, what's on my mind?

Speaker 8 (04:21):
I don't want to know.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
I don't either. Uh. And then we have the Weird
Fact of the Week. And then we've got a really
cool Christmas gift idea and the tech breakdown, which I
think once I kind of spell out how you can
use it, a lot of people are gonna want it.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
But everything about Tonight normally is about science.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
I mean it's it's like it's what I like to
talk about. I know, it's like it's what you like
to talk about. But everything is about just curious, and
we have curious people in our audience. I do this
show because I'm curious.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
I don't do it from money. It's just it's why
we're here. I mean literally every Sunday night we explore science,
the strange, and things that live just beyond kind of
the edge, right yep. And so that's that is definitely
our mission statement. If anybody thinks different, it's not. And

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everybody in the adult radio network that is their mission.
And so if we can just flip a switch once
in a while and somebody's head, that's what it's all about.
So all right, so everybody, go grab a blanket, get
something warm on because it's what below zero tonight?

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Jeff, Yeah, wend, I know it's bud.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well, maybe it's warming up finally, but it was below
zero today. It was terrible. And so go get something
warm on, you know, pour some hot beverage. Turn those
lights down. Let's get comfortable and let's begin.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Did you want to play your video?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No?

Speaker 5 (06:04):
No, no, that's for way after. We'll do that after
the the ending video, the outro. It'll be after if
you want to. Yeah, if you want to hang around,
you can hang around after just a little what three minutes,
if you want to, you can. Otherwise when we sign off,

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you can just leave.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
So all right, let's go ahead, and time for some
weird and fast news.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Weird, weird and fast nude. Like I said before, there
there'll be no no I guarantee you.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
It's time for weird and fast news, all right. So
first story is about a new mystery deep sea squid
that does I know, he goes upside down to try
to look like a plant. He buries his body and
the dirt put his tentacles up to look like a plant.

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That says in the article, what is that? Cosplay?

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeahsplay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
So scientists filmed what appears to be an unknown species
of deep sea squid doing something nobody's ever documented before,
burying itself upside down in the seafloor. So it's arms,
tentacles stick upward like some kind of seabed plant. And
the footage came from Clarion Clipperton Zone in the Pacific

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and this was collected during research connected to understanding deep
ocean ecosystems.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So there you go.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
Pretty cool, all right.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Next we have hold on. What we have is we
have a Doug's Wonky computers wonky all right. So number
two is ghost particles from the Sun. We're caught doing
something really weird called an atomic flip underground Earth so

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I'll tell you what this atomic flip is. I've never
heard of this. Oxford lead researchers announce a breakthrough detection
involving solar neutrinos, also called ghost particles that passed through
almost everything, including Jeff right.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
There, they kind of tingle when they go through you,
especially if you're nude.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
I always always wear pants when you're dealing.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yes, I always wear pants when you're doing a podcast. Anyhow,
using this uh something called the s n O detector,
It's a deep underground snow lab in Canada, and they
report observing rare interactions between where neutrinos trigger and atomic

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transformation of carbon thirteen converting to nitrogen thirteen, an exceptionally
faint event that's hard to spot because neutrinos are famous
for being slippery.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
I didn't know there was such a thing as a
slippery neutrino, that they were all slippery.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Well, I think I think they don't stick around very long.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know, they can shoot a neutrino in Ohio and
catch it in Minnesota at the at that Fermi lab
up there at Tower. Just think about that. That is slippery.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
So anyhow, but I've never heard it called that. What
makes it, what makes it weird is the whole things
like catching a cosmic whisper by watching two tiny flashes
of light separated by minutes deep underground. So there you go,
and they do it underground deep because it shields apparently any.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Blocks of the bigger particles from getting in the way.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
And it's too cold down there to be nude, and.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
They're probably wearing pants down there.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Probably next another I know you guys are gonna grown
another little blip of news on the uh the interstellar
object here. I'm trying to scroll up to this interstellar
Are there we go? H this three iye Atlas? So now.
Harvard astrophysicist Bobby Lowbe recently sparked buzz again by claiming

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that the interstellar object three I Atlas, the third known
visitor from beyond our solar system, shows a repeating brightness pulse.
He likens it to a heartbeat lobes. Justice unusual periodic
signal might be caused by active jets or even non
natural propulsion mechanisms, a feature that that he says could

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be consistent with technology rather than natural physics. That is
a little weird. That it's palsy.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Yeah, I still am in the camp that. I don't
think there's anything about it that's unexplainable. It's odd, unusual,
rare phenomenon, but it's just I think it's natural.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Jeff, by the way, is the Carl Sagan of the
UFO world, but it's taken Carl's place. Next, we have
a really weird octopus of seven legged octopus very once
again a very rare deep sin the octopus. God, we

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know nothing about the oceans, do we?

Speaker 8 (11:56):
Yeah? No kidding?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Formally known as tupeceptal right, that makes sense, Septopus seven
because of its seven visible arms, and it was found
stranded on a beach in Scotland by a local walker.
They were probably walking in the nude. It's my guess.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Uh huh, that must be.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
It, stunning marine biologists. At first glance, people assumed it
was a giant squid, but experts soon confirmed it was
a water octopus species uh, with one arm tucked away.
Male octopuses have a hidden reproductive arm. I'm not gonna
say it. Hecto cockley cockle.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
LUs CODs hectodalis.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Come on, youta, say it a little better than that.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
Het coals. Yeah, yeah, they they have their their reproductive
organism in one of the arms.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Which is okay. So anyhow, it says this, this is
harder spot and this kind of sighting is exceptionally unusual,
with only a handful of live scept to push sitings
worldwide over the past four decades. So these I was
gonna say, pescimen. Oh my god. The specimen is now

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preserved for further study. It is likely to end up
in a museum, probably in your basement, j.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Of I'll be cool. I'd heard that in the shelf.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Then a Defense scoop reports as the UAP related provisions
made it into the fiscal year of twenty twenty six,
so apparently they've financed disclosure. Kind it sounds interesting. The
National Defense Authorization Act discussions included a language that would

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affect how the Pentagon UAP office Aaro Brieves cought, were
specifically pressing for more information about military intercepts and quotes
you know what that means, don't you? Jeff yea earth

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did Jeff intercept? I said, do you know what that means?
What I just said? They want more information about military
intercepts right around North America. Intercepting UFOs.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
Right, well, yeah, of course, yeah, you're getting it there yet,
I know, but.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
They didn't say intercepting UFOs. They just kind of sneak
that language in gotcha intercepts.

Speaker 8 (14:38):
They probably it's finally time man, who knows, Maybe it's
finally timed answers.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So that means if they're intercepting them, they're capturing them
or shooting them down. It's my guess that doesn't sound
like a good plan. What could go wrong? It said,
This is not you know, blurry video, it's policy pressure
lawmakers basically asking for clear accounting, better briefings, and more

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transparency around incidents that prompted intercepts and concerns intercepts.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Next.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Next, moving on.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And we have something there we go new crystals with
apparently twisting spins could boost data storage. There's our future
CD or DVT. Jeff, that's what it looked like. Be
a crystal. Wasn't that star trek? Well they put a
crystal like in a thing.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
To read it?

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Uh yeah, I specifically that's been That's a lot of
sci fi has used crystals for that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, well it's starting to come true. Yeah, Florida State
University researcher reported a new crystaline material with unusual magnetic
behavior described as twisting, swirling magnetic patterns that could could
matter for a future future god, I can't talk today,

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future data storage and quantum technology pathways. The work is
being framed as exploring chemical boundaries to create magnetic structures
that behave in uncommon ways but useful ways for quick
it's a year now, it says, uh, it says. The

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magnetism isn't just north and south. It can form from
exotic textures like microscopic magnetic weather systems. That's really weird.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
Yeah, my crystal, that's wild. Yeah, yeah, you can. You
can store a lot of data in something like that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Then they add if these patterns can be controlled and stabilized,
they hinted a denser information storage or new kind of
device that treats magnetic structures like a feature, not a nuisance.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
Interesting. There you go, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
That's it for weird and fast, weird and fast, weird
fast news in the nude.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
No, it's a weird fact of the week with pants on.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
That's real weird.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the
week that is kind of weird.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
It cheers Jeff to my root beer salute, I got,
I got water.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Oh okay, throat, so that side show up. There we go.
Weird fact of the week. Two headed tortoises. Okay, you think,
well it's a birth defect. Well, some tortoises, apparently there's
quite a few of them, are born with two fully
formed heads, and in rare cases, both heads have their

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own personality, which is, I think the same with people
right when they're born with two heads. I swear to
God my daughter had a substitute teacher at times with
two heads.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Oh yeah, those girls are pretty famous. Yeah yeah, is
that crazy?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It's okay. It says both heads will have their own personalities,
their own appetites, and even preferred directions. This condition condition
is called polyseephaly. It happens when a single embryo splits

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during development. That says, apparently it doesn't quite finish the job.
Here's when it gets weird. The two heads can argue.
One head might try to eat while the other one
wants to sleep. One may pull the body left while
the other wants to pull right, and captivity keepers have
observed one head becoming dominant, sometimes even refusing to let

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the other one eat. Despite sharing the same body, each
brain controls its own side, So that's gotta be tough.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah, like me and you sure constant negotiation.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's is constant.

Speaker 8 (19:26):
I tell you when you can eat.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
I call him and Jeff is a good. Now, okay,
put my pants on now, Oh my god. All right,
let's uh, let's race through our clips and we've got
a really quick tick breakdown. We're gonna bring on. H Okay,
Carol and Stan. I think we're waiting for Roun yet though, right.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Uh, he popped in and left, so he's figuring out
his connection there.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
But he's probably catching some of those solar neutrinos.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Yea, my guess. All right, you want to do some
clips next?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (19:59):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Are you ready?

Speaker 8 (20:11):
I am ready?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
All right?

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Clip one? Sound is really good, very short. Two ravens,
which are my favorite bird, are communicating. I love this
footage because whoever film down really got close or not
in a tree. They're probably on a cliff. Go ahead,
they're probably nesting. You gotta put the volume up, man.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
I don't hear a thing you're getting volume nothing. Oh no,
this might have something to do with your audience. Yeah,
hold on, let's see here. I might have to No, no,
we'll skip them and you can do a test next week.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
We'll just skip them.

Speaker 8 (20:59):
Yeah, I might getting if you have no sound.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Everyone depends on sound almost next next week.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
All right, all right, those for next week, so let's
skip ahead to right.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
That'll save me work. Yeah, although there is one you
could play, let's just play one because I want to
talk about it a little bit. Play clip uh ten
and doesn't get it as matter. The sound doesn't make
any difference. Clip ten. All right. Do you know what
these are? Jeff?

Speaker 8 (21:31):
Have you ever seen me like a horseshoe crab?

Speaker 5 (21:33):
But it's not, Yeah, it's not. They're called excuse me, uh,
they're called tadpole shrimp, but better known commercially as traps.
You can buy these. You can buy them an Amazon,
believe it or not, and they come as just dried eggs.
In fact, throw that picture up. I mean they're really

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creepy looking. You can get two hundred tryout eggs for
a mirror twelve bucks.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Let me put that picture up. Hold on a second, Yeah,
the picture I had that picture and it disappeared. I'm
having all kinds of computer issues far well, having me nuts.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Well that's fine, okay, So you can buy these, raise
them and then put them in your buddy's shoe, pour
me full of shoe full of water and pour a
bunch of traps, or you can put them in the
toilet freak people out.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Yeah, those these are wild. And then I've never seen
those before.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
They're I mean, they're just they're really creepy looking. They
live about ninety days, twenty to ninety days as all,
but then if they dry up, they can they lay
their eggs and the eggs can survive for like decades.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Wow, it's really weird. Yeah, I didn't know those existed.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, so if you if you end up with traps
in your toilet, and now you'll know where they came from. Yeah,
I'd love to hear it. You could hear a grown
man scream.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
You imagine that would get my attention.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Like, think about that swimming around any They're they're weird,
all right. And then there actually is one more that
goes with that, and this one I thought it was
kind of weird. Clip eleven. It is the surface of
Mars and it was just kind of weird diming because

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I found this clip after I was looking at the tryops.
Just go ahead and play this. There's no sound. What
in the world are these spikes or fins? And I thought, God,
it looks like the back of a triops. Maybe it's
a giant giant Martian trips.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
Man eating I'm sure that must be what it is.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I'm sure it's a man eating Martian traps. It does
look like a creature, doesn't look like fish bones or bones.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
That's crazy that that's a strange. Yeah, there's some strange
stuff up there.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
You could say, yeah, all days just a naturally formed thing.
But man, I don't know. I tend to kind of
wonder about that one. All right, tack breakdown.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
We're going to bring our guests breakdown.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Here we go, right, I didn't know if you were

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coming back.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
Yeah, it's longer, longer than normal.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
What's going on. I think we ended up. I think
we were I think we're part of the Mandela effect.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
There's there's some Twilight Zone stuff going on right now
in my computer.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Oh, I can tell you a story from happened two
nights in a row over here at the hijack house, weird,
really weird stuff going.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
On range days my friend.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, okay, so this tech breakdown as we're getting towards Christmas,
I like to give, you know, ideas that might be
a good gift, you know, for a loved one.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
We're getting a little we're a little closer than getting
towards Christmas. It's like in this is probably the last day.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
It's fine, you're playing that they have overnight shipping on Anyhow,
this is a it's called an instant three sixty go
three s It comes with a like you can get
it with some of them some kits. There's all sorts
of people offering these kits. Sixty four gigabytes, four K

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action camera. It's the size of your thumb and it
fits in a little cradle which you can use it
to charge and view. Okay, so this is not real cheap,
but it's not real expensive. You can see how small
it is two and thirty nine on Amazon. But you
talk about a field of view, go look at footage
on YouTube from a three sixty camera. It's insane, Like

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you can't even see the person holding it because it's
you know, it's the footage is surrounding you. Okay, So
here's my idea. This is what I'm gonna try this summer.
I'm gonna get two of these. You can throw up
that little uh. There's a little bracket that you can buy.
It's at the bottom. You can chill the whole kit

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there there's the bracket. Okay, so you you can put
like green vinyl over everything. In fact, there's camouflage vinyl.
You can buy any Bay camouflage it all up, just
the lends showing. These have an operating life of about

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forty minutes, so you don't get a lot of This
isn't like a camera trap you're gonna leave out. So
what you're gonna do with this as you're gonna walk,
You're gonna have this all pre ready with a little
wire that's clipped in one of those holes. You're gonna
have the little thumb camera in this. You're gonna have
it all camouflaged up. You're gonna walk by a tree
and you're not gonna even slow down. You're gonna put

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that on the backside of a tree in the direction
that you're walking. If you're in an active area, hoping
that you're being observed and even followed. So as you
get up a quarter of a mile, they may follow
you blindly. And if you don't sit there and stop
and make a big deal out of putting it up,

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you can end up being the next Roger and Patterson
and Bob Gimlin got this camera. The idea is just
with a quick motion with your arm, get that hook
on there and or a little spike. You'll figure it
out and just hook it on a branch super quick,
kind of almost in one motion, and keep walking. That's
the thing. You don't pause, and then you then you

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wait forty minutes and you walk back.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
That's pretty cool, and you pick it up.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
This could be use for oh god, so many things,
and in a gradle of course it'll it'll run for whenever.
But read up on it. It'll do a million different things.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Okay, that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
There you go. That's it.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yes, And do you want one for those for Christmas?

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Jeff, it's a pretty cool gadget. I don't know how, Yeah,
it'd be kind of it'd be fun to play with.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Look at all the stuff you get. It's kind of
not so much stuff. They give you mounts and it's nuts,
but that'll make a really good action camera. I like
things that are multi purpose. You can use dash cam,
you can do all sorts of things with it, you know,
clip it on your body. You can have a little
power pack for auxiliary power, so it'll run all day.

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But I like the idea of that. It's just just
a flick camera trap that you put up and you
keep walking. It's just such a common story that being
you know that people are being trailed.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
And then again, the point is with that wide field
of view, you don't have to aim it. It's going
to capture it, right, right, that's the idea, correct, Now
the whole point.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Thanks for bringing that up. I miss that.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
That's when my brain was thinking. It's so what It's
just it's even if it's pointing the wrong direction, it'll.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Still get to capture everything.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah, it'll get it. Yep, yep, yep. And that's really
all I've got. We've got everybody. Let's introduce these guys.
Should I go the brief way or a long way?
And these guys are all quite accomplished. What ron Ron
Moorehan is a prominent, obviously very prominent bigfoot researcher. I

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kind of believe everybody it's interested in Bigfoot knows who
Ron is. Yeah, he's got well over fifty years of experience.
He began his journey in nineteen seventy one accidentally, and
then of course he's conducted extensive research into the Sasquatch phenomena.
He's a multi book author, but he captured the best obviously,

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the best vocalizations ever.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
The first book I think was Voices in the Wilderness,
and that is being turned into an audiobook. We'll talk
about that, which would be really cool. And remember there's
a whole new generation of people coming into this mystery. Yeah,
it's changing. So Ron's contributions have made him a very

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significant figure in the field of cryptozoology, and he can
obviously he's very generous, very generous with his time, and
he continues to share his insights through podcasts, public speaking
engagements and whatever. And I'll tell you, the man's got
a funny sense of humor too. I love it. I
got to hang out with him for a weekend and

(30:55):
I was cracking up the whole time I was with him.
Neat neat guy. Okay, then we've got Stan Shumlick. Stan
Shumlick is known for his work in film, particularly in
the family genre. He gained recognition for his roles and
Casper Meets Wendy in nineteen ninety eight and Casper as

(31:20):
obviously the Ghatst.

Speaker 8 (31:23):
I grew up in the Casper, remember those comics, and
as a kid Beard.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Had been in nineteen ninety seven. He's done a lot
more than that, but this is something you guys will
all know. But beyond his film work, details about his
his personal life and other professional endeavors are less documented.
But he's into Bigfoot. He's also quite a research Yeah,

(31:47):
we get some stories for us too. Then we have
the nicest man in bigfooting. Darryl Dennon is a prominent
figure in bigfoot research and cryptozoology. With over three decades
of experience. He has had numerous encounters with Bigfoot and
other cryptids, primarily in Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia. Daryl is

(32:10):
known for his first hand accounts investigations, and he shares
to various platforms including podcasts, YouTube, blah blah blah, and
he runs the Facebook group Bigfoot Believers and Other Creatures.
Right There's like the Land between the Lakes I can't
wait to talk about all this. Yeah, anyhow, so and

(32:34):
I think that him and Ron are doing a new podcast.
We'll let them explain that that. We'll put links up
for him. But anyhow, let's uh, do you want to
discredit them? We're going to claim I mean, see, I'm
getting all mixed stuff to that discredit big Difference. We don't.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
We don't even neg difference.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Don't need to these legends. We want to disclaim them.
We want to claim them. Not So let's bring him on.

Speaker 8 (33:04):
All right, Welcome Ron and Darryl and Stan. Thanks guys,
good to see you.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Stan.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
So Stan, I gave you, like what month, month and
months and months of warning, right I I gave I
gave Stan a text not too long ago, going Stan,
you're on today.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
And for the record, I am wearing pants.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
That's good. Yes, Ron, how about you? You got pants on?
I do?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yes, I do? You know? Ron called me before the
show started.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
I decided, Hey, okay, I don't know where to start
with you guys, because you're all just so accomplished. But Ron,
why don't you tell us about you got it? The
Voices of the Wilderness is a very famous book. But

(34:00):
now some magic is going to happen with it, right,
what's the I think?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
So, yeah, thanks to stand he's putting the audio book
together for me, and it's about my chronicle Voices the
War is my book, Voices and Wideness, that was my
first book, and that he's got the sounds embedded in it.
And so it's all going to come out on audio
CD now, our audio book now, and I think it's
probably going to be distributed with you guys. So it'll

(34:27):
be fun. And that's my chronicle of doing this for
so long and well at that time, it's been out
for about almost ten years now, I guess.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
So do you own some books? Like, just tons of books?
We should go to lift your camera up. We should
try it.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
We're just well, I mean, do you want books in
the back of it?

Speaker 5 (34:53):
I want to get closer to you. We can't even
see it back there.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh well, I got to get monocacy myself and this
camera I got here, Uh, let me hold it.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Just stack some books on it and lean it. Just
have one book sticking out. Everybody uses their phones there
you go. Yeah, then we want to see you ron, do.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know, Let's see if I got something else?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, just take his camera for a second.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Jeff, give it all my books, my daughter Ronda, most
of them anyway, must m down, give me a curve.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Anyhow, Stan, how's the how's this audiobook going?

Speaker 9 (35:40):
Actually it's going quite well? What I should notice that Ron,
it's his voice, but it's actually a I that spoke
the book. And so I've been battling with robo Ron
for a while. He just doesn't do drama. Well I
imagine the Yeah, well, trying to make it sound like Ron.

(36:03):
Ron's an intelligent man. He speaks very succinctly, and Robo
Ron can do a run on sentence that it would
be impossible for a human to speak without passing out
from lack of oxygen.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Well, you played some of it to me, and it
was amazing because you're doing more than just doing a
AI voice based on his voice. You are editing the
entire thing to put in proper breathing and pauses and
all that.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Well, yeah, it's Ron telling you a bedtime story and
it needs to be entertaining.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
Yeah, no, we lost a run yeah glitch.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
Well, yeah, the AI does a really good job, but
apparently it doesn't like certain punctuation. Together, it really makes
it kind of randomly say stuff. In fact, Ron, who
never said the word um and never said the phrase
uga booga, said both of those via AI.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
So how long are people were working on this? Stan?

Speaker 9 (37:13):
We sort of started at the end of September, and
I slapped the whole thing together because I was trusting
the AI did a good job. And I went back
and listened to it and went, oh, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. This has got to be entertaining for whoever
listens to this. It needs to really sound like it's
Ron reading you a story and not a computer. That

(37:36):
sort of kind of sounds like Ron.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Right, I know, because what I listened to didn't sound
like monotone. I mean, it sounds pretty dang good.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Trust me when I tell you there was a lot
of massaging to get it there.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, I know, I know. When do you think it'll
be done so people can buy it?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well?

Speaker 9 (37:53):
In fact, this afternoon I did an audio sweetening pass.
There is one section that I'm told is a little
rough in chapter nineteen. I'm going to go back and
check that and possibly regenerate the text.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I'm expecting it in the next.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
Twenty four to forty eight hours and then Ron needs
to listen and give the approval and once he's happy,
it's ready.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well that's very cool. So you worked on the Casper
movies and what role did you play in those movies?

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I animated Casper.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Wow, I mean that's crazy.

Speaker 9 (38:32):
Expressions, leapsync action lighting. Oh my, for two of Casper's films.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
That's pretty intrested. How did you get that job?

Speaker 9 (38:44):
Well, I've been in the film business for well over
thirty years and I've done commercials and worked on TV
series and the occasional movie here and there, and I
was just known for being a character animator. Used to
be a member of a users group in Los Angeles
where I would get up and do a half hour
to forty five minute presentation.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
To other people who do what we do. It was
just kind of fun.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
And after one of the presentations I was approached and
asked if I'd like to come work on it.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Of course they said yes, yeah, of course, yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
It just that was interesting. You know, people get certain
jobs like you know, how did that work out?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Well?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I usually say it's because I have a big mouth.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
You know.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
My partner used to tease me all the time. You
go after the meetings He would say, how are we
going to get that done? And I would tell him
I don't know, but we got three weeks to figure
it out.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, great, Hey we have run back there we go.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm brooded, I booded. I don't know what happened. I'll
hold it. I find out too jerky, Here my closer. Now, yeah,
you're good.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Oh yeah, it's much better. Well, you don't have to
hold it. There's got to be a way you can
prop it up run. It's gotta be somebody.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
You wouldn't know what I've been going through. I mean, hey,
wait a minute, come Horry.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Are you on your phone?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Rong? Yes? So I just had my laptop for the
last couple of months, and I used to know.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I'm glad I got to go home, but.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I got a good camera in. I think, oh, my
phone's getting hot. I don't bounce off again. Let's see anyway,
let's get back to meat of everything. Can you see
me now?

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah, we can see you. I just feel bad. Why
don't you too hold that darn thing?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's not fun.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Okay, So you had no interest in Bigfoot when you
went to that camp in seventy one, like no interest
you just were up there.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Hell well, well prior to that, I didn't have an
interest when I went back. When I went up there
the first time, I went up with a guy who
wouldn't go back by himself because they got scared off.
That with Donald, Billmore's brother in law. And anyway, they've
been hunting that area for a long time and they
came back with the story. So they went up to

(41:19):
check it all out. And anyway, they didn't come out
what they were supposed to do. I've told the story
over and over, but I'll tell you anyway, I started
going up there in seventy one, but nobody had an
interest in bigfoot up there. But when I went up,
I had an interest in water was up there. They
didn't know if it was bigfoot. A while, I kind
of a monster that the Johnson brothers had told us

(41:40):
all about. So I went up to see if the
guys were okay, went up with a friend of mine,
with Donald actually, and so that's how I got involved, really,
And that was Suda nineteen seventy one. Earlier that year,
Johnson brothers had experienced something pretty phenomenal and didn't know
how quite how to explain it there going to the
campince nineteen fifty eight, so they knew the area, knew

(42:03):
the animal expert hunters actually, so that's how I got
involved pretty much that way. But there was a hiding camp,
so I started hunting with them. After that, we started
having these multiple encounters over the years, well started recording them.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
What was the very first thing that happened?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
You run?

Speaker 5 (42:22):
The very first? Was it subtle?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, the very first thing happened to bigfoot wise or
when I got.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Out, Yeah, bigfoot wise? What was the very first thing
that you heard happened?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I heard these aggressive sounds outside. They're really territorial sounds.
I mean chess beating and a big, a big monster
or some kind. Several of them were one. And we
also started taking tape recorders up there, consette recorders all
we could take, and so we were all recording. Wasn't

(42:55):
until the year later when Albery went up with he
started taking it seriously. We were not knowing what we're doing.
We're looking for the ape in the woods like everybody
does nowadays, and I'm thinking that's how it was. But
something very unique because they were very big, the tracks
that were huge, and uh, anyway, just stuff started happening.
That's how I got involved and seventy one. So it

(43:17):
went on from seventy ones all the way through the
seventy six and that's when it permitsive died down. There's
still something going on, I know, but can.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
You be more specific and just kind of focus on
that first scream you heard? What were you doing? What
did you hear?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
What? We're all sitting inside that little huts we had.
I guess you caught it with our guns cocked to shoot.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Was this that in the middle of the night? Was
in the day?

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Well, it wasn't in the middle of the night. It
was not if we go in. It's like they were
observing until we went in. We'd go inside after it
started getting dark and closed the sheltered door which was
just no log but between two other trees. And that
was for how our protection. We thought that in our guns,
So really there was we had a certain amount of
security that we're thinking with us with these high powered

(44:07):
weapons we had, and that didn't seem to stop them
from making their sounds.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
And also I realized around I know this. I think
most people know the story, but they don't know exactly
what in the world were you doing when you heard that.
You guys all heard the scream. I mean, were you guys.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Was inside the shelter, But how did you react?

Speaker 5 (44:31):
What did you say to each other?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Where you stopped? You trying to stop the other guy
from shaking so much?

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Was it really really loud?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Was it so very very You can't explain how loud
it was? So it just jar you. That's the biggest
thing right there is you can capture that on the cassettes,
the aptitude which all this stuff came out, which was
really pretty horrific. And anyway, it'll jar you a little bit.
But you know, we we sit stuck there. You didn't

(45:04):
go anywhere you came to run away from it. So
you're not going to go out there where they are.
You just sit there and hope you're not going to
crash in on you or something.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
I mean, were you are you?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So?

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Were you guys afraid of that?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Well? I don't know. It was wasn't fear as much
as it was. Yeah, I guess I guess we're gonna
call it fear. But I learned, Uh, I try not
to have fear. I mean, everybody's got it. Be startled,
And that's basically the better way to say, it's startling,
because yeah, you don't know what they're going to do.
You don't know what the intent is, you don't know

(45:39):
what they are, You don't know what's what's going to happen.
So you just sit there and hope you make it
through it. Then you do. And we didn't shoot our
way out, and they didn't break the break in on us,
so we we were there for us of the evening
and went on for hour or two. And then you
hear them later on, after everybody started tapering down, you'd
still hear them walking around a little bit out there sometimes.

(46:02):
And I got on one of my recordings, I got
footsteps going around. The guy had a stereo recorder. I
started taking up their different recorder.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well obviously, yeah, you guys kept going back.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, I never get this. I ended up getting a
stereo recorder and putting mic on each side of the shelter,
and you could hear them where they were. They're more
directional that way with it.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Had said, how close was that first scream round?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh, they're probably twenty feet away. Wow, I'm guessing at
that because you didn't see them out there at that time.
You just we're just there, but from the tracks we've
had them, I've had him right next to the shelter
and we're just within a few feet. Found tracks there
next morning. So it's uh, kind of an interesting thing

(46:55):
to go through, and it's quite a passion of mine
now for all my life kind of into.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
It, I'd say, So, Darryl, I want to switch to
Darryl for a second. What was your first thoughts when
you first heard the Sierra Sounds first time? If you can.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Remember, well, I think the first time I heard it
was probably in the late eighties, early nineties, maybe, you know,
it's pretty remarkable that of all these years, you know,
sixty seven being Patterson and Gamble and Patty sided, and
then four years later you've got Rhymes recording of the

(47:38):
Sierra Sounds, and those two still today are probably listed
as the best evidence we've ever had. So it's pretty
amazing that, you know, I've I've been good friends of
Royn for a good while and been best friends with
him the last couple of years. And he just has
a lot of knowledge and one thing about you know,

(47:58):
he he the heart and he has such a great
way of sharing what he does. And I'm quite honored
to be such a close friend with him. And I
think when I first heard it, I you know, I
had a sound after my first encounter like I've never
heard in my life and it still lives in me today.
And that was in November of ninety two, and I've

(48:23):
never heard anything like that, but it was nothing like
what Ron had heard. I can't imagine being in that
camp in those mountains when he and I talked about
this numerous times, and with all that going on, and
being at seven to eight miles from the nearest road
you're there. You're not coming out right.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
In the dark.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
It takes a lot of nerve. And it's not easy
to get to that camp anyway. I mean, you've got
to travel my horseback and that's still not easy. And
I'd say they're pretty pretty brave guys to go back repeatedly.
And you know Ron has been back since then with
day Platos up there when you behind him. So it's

(49:06):
pretty remarkable. I think the Sierra Sounds audio is the
best ever reported. I don't think anything will ever start passing.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Yeah, Oh, what were your thoughts stand the first time
you heard I discovered the Sierra Sounds? What was going
near your mind.

Speaker 9 (49:27):
The first thing I heard was the samurai sounds. Yeah,
it sounded like an argument I've had with previous girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You who thought that was funny?

Speaker 9 (49:39):
Yeah, Well, I didn't even know who Ron was when
I first met him. I just thought he had a
cool hat.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Oh, just as that.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Well, this was at beach Foot.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
This year, Okay.

Speaker 9 (49:53):
I wasn't even into this whole sasquatch research thing at all.
Friend of mine, Kevin Ley, asked me to help him
out at the Glide Festival, where I met Todd Nice
and Todd gave me the invitation to Beachfoot, and that's
where I met Ron and William Morris. Kind of a
strange sequence of events. So technically it's Kevin's fault, then

(50:16):
it's Todd's fault, and now it's Bill's fault.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Yeah, but it's always Ron's fault. Always.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I think it's really Ron's fault.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Okay, okay, So okay, I can testify I personally have
heard this argument at snow Grove. It happened at snow
Grove the first time I was in the cabin, and
it sounded like a male and a female arguing really violently. Ron,
is that the way you interpreted your that those samurai

(50:50):
kind of things too.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Well, the samurai was that's where that night when when
I record the semar that's when I was interacting with
him more h The arguing was just that according to
linguist we had listened to him as Nancy Logan, actually
she's a sound expert, and she said that they were
a male and female arguing and on some of the sounds.

(51:13):
So we recorded sounds for hours. I mean we've got
not just one night or two nights, we got several
nights of recordings. And uh, you know Al Berry is
the one who fostered the studies on the University of
Why only to show that they were legitimate. I got
it started. Otherwise I wouldn't be talking tonight. Probably said

(51:35):
take my head off to Al. He passed away a
few years ago. We became very good friends.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Yeah, you guys were really good friends.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Always going up. Go ahead, I'm just gonna sound a.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Chance to meet Al and you for the first time
at the China Flatt's Museum many years ago and got
to meet Al was really cool and he got He
told me the whole story, and you know he was
to debunk you.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh yeah. That was his goal, was trying to find
out who could be doing this out there in the
middle of nowhere was a willness and a really imposing
area to get to, and uh, he never could get
that party. So he told me one time, he wish
you had have been a hoax so he could have
explained it better. But anyway, he he he was a

(52:22):
good friend of mine and didn't start off that way.
We thought he was kind of a well and I
asked he was trying to He's trying to accuse each
of us separately. It's so kind of reaction. He get
to see if we were guilty of doing something wrong.
But he never could get to the bottom of it
like that, so he ended up just writing a book

(52:42):
of his own and that's But anyway, I got nothing
but good to say about al. He's a good man.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Was he a complete believer before.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
He uh, he would say what he believes. I think
he probably was. He was convinced something was going on
that wasn't normal, and it wasn't just nape in the woods,
because it had to have more to It was just
too many strange things went on besides the silence there
and that kind of threw him for a loop because

(53:15):
he's a He had a master's degree in science, and
he was a very academic. He was an officer in Vietnam.
He saw action in Vietnam. He's quite the gentleman, but
he's also very smart. He had two master's degrees actually,
and he had a mind the engineer anyway. Al I

(53:37):
can't say enough good about him. He was just a
good man, and he fostered the studies. I actually got
him going. He wanted to get science behind it, and
so he said, what do you do? Stay with science?
He said, this has all got to be science somewhere.
So that's why it got me in a quantum science
later on, because that is the science. But he was academic, academic,

(53:58):
totally thinking everything is see you feel in touch. But
there's more going on to that, as we most of
all now, there's a lot more going on than just
our five senses.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Yeah, okay, all right, So now what I want to
do tonight more than anything, is do a lot of collabing,
like compare some of Daryl's things that's happened to him
to what's happened to you and people in our audience
to leave comments to really get active and say, you know,
listen to this here sounds. I've heard the stories and

(54:32):
I had the same thing happen, so I'm looking for similarities.
I think it's really important people compare notes. It's not
enough of that. So Darryl and I would imagine with
all your experience in the areas you work, you've heard
some pretty good vocals, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I have heard a lot of vocals. One of the
best vocals that I ever had ron to be with us.
There was Martin Groves, one of my closest friends about
forty six years and Barton Andley and Ron Forehead. We
were into LBL and Barton was famous for that night

(55:15):
these certain screens and he's really good with him and
he gets a re callback a callback from set occasionally
and most of the time it's a coyote or something
like that. But mister Victor Knight and March of twenty
twenty four, we were parked in an area that we've
had many encounters and experiences in him and area looks

(55:38):
out here at twenty three and we're in a vehicle.
Ron is in the front passenger's side next to Martin
Groves who's driving. I'm behind Martin. Barton's behind Ron and
Bartin gets out and makes this call and we'll get
to answer. The second time he made it, and it
was extremely loan return call. Quite frankly, I had heard simmer,

(56:09):
but not one quite that long. And U Marton did
a lot of work with that to send out for
several scientists in agencies and they never heard that call
ever before. So I do not have that with me.
That I do have the call, and uh, it's pretty remarkable.

(56:29):
And we also had what we call a so far
with us that night.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
That's horn, that's correct horn, rest.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Goat horn, twisted goat horn that takes a certain type
for to make a certain call. That supposedly Bigfoot will
answer for a sasquatch whatever you want to call him,
and does work well. Martin has never gotten it quite
down the way it has to be done. And be
careful bowing that because you could actually maybe do something

(57:03):
wrong with it. But Cam Kimbo Baker is probably the
basting using that instrument and he has actually called being
cut in with that. So but we did not have
any suctass that night. But that call that I was
talking about, we said they were sent to several scientific agencies,
and they never recorded a call like that the return.

(57:30):
Most of we are something swimming across that waterway there,
didn't we yep, we did, same night, Yes, sir, Yeah,
that was that was interesting because I was waiting for us. Well,
actually were looking for the dog man. But what was
that same area that we're talking about, Martin and uh, well,

(57:52):
Roan was with us in October twenty three and they'll
be yelled at a startin are we camped out and
we had a cab and that same area that trip
we had reported I've lost sound, guys in that particular area.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
No, we can hear you. Everybody hear everybody, okay, daryld
I hear I hear.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
So what you can do, stand is just reboot and
just hit the joint link again. I'll bring it right
back in, just like if you're using your phone, to
shut your phone off and start it up again.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
I don't think there'd be any other reason he'd lose sound,
would Jeff?

Speaker 8 (58:36):
I have no idea. Yeah, that's went in, went in,
don't reboot.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Yeah, it seems to work the time. I don't think
I don't think they can hear us.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Sometimes he can actually hit the mute button and cut
himself off, so.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Well, he'd still be able to hear us.

Speaker 8 (58:55):
So, yeah, he's not muted unless we're not muted on the.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Yeah, I know, so well. Yeah, get it worked out
with them, Jeff.

Speaker 8 (59:04):
Yeah, I just yeah, I just send them a text
every boot here.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Anyhow, So did you ever do anything to attract these creatures? Ron,
weave food out, bang on trees, whistle, use some kind
of horn anything.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
No horn. We we would bang on a tree once
in a while. But generally you can't make them do anything.
It's just they just got to trust you and start
interacting with they want to. When you start hearing them banger,
when they start hearing them whoop, that's when you know.
You can do something back if you want to. But
I wouldn't. But you can't really make it happen. You's

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got to let it happen. Hope they recognize your vibration.
That's okay, and you're gonna be They're gonna be safe
around you. I guess that's how they think. I don't know.
I just don't know. We tried to play back our sounds.
I didn't work. I don't encourage anybody to do that like,
because you don't know what it sounds really represent. Right
In fact, one guy, one guy did that and he

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said one charge him. So it's just you don't want
to Well, there's a whole list of things you do
and don't switch. I've got listed. But it's it's a
matter of allowing it to happen and know who you
are and know and being with other people who feel
the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
So did you guys would return? Did you have more
and more action or did it was it always kind
of the same? Did it increase? Did it become more friendly?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I became more friendly after I became more friendly after
a couple of years, and I think he seventy four,
it was very friendly. That's when I interacted with him
because I actually started to mess with this while we're
outside of the shelter. We normally wait to wear inside
the shelter, close the doors, and then they started making
their sounds. But this was seventy four when I recorded
it off. That's an I saw one. Actually, it's when

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I recorded the samurai cry and I started responding back
to it to them. I think there was a young
one and adolescent and possibly the mother down by the
creek and then the Samurai cry was up behind us,
and that's what I saw it, running down through the
trees to the other two. And uh, anyway, that's that

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was quite an adventurous night. And so really I don't
want to say it was one night. It's exciting. Actually
it's things I have started having the next night. But
Louis Johnson and Warren Johnson came in and Louis started
trying to flashfy out about and when they started doing

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that and they left.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
And stand, are you going to be putting the sear
of sounds in the voices of the wilderness?

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
Oh, they are all all in line. Is where the
book tells you to play the track. It's the track.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
So so they're not only going to get the story
in the book, they're going to get the actual sounds
to it in the right time as he tells the story.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yes, in context with the story.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Well, yeah, that's a game changer. Yeah, big game changer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I'd like this, Doug. I think I think one of
the most mysterious things that Ron has told me over
the years is these creatures definitely have a hargh vibration
and and have a way to do things that that's
very hard for our mind to wrap around him. Ron
has telling me to let him tell you. But the

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night they heard their camp being torn to pieces, and
go ahead, Ron, well, we thought it was being tore pieces,
so we looked out there. Nothing changed. So that's interesting
in itself. You don't know if they're hypnotizing us all,
if they just how we heard all has heard that,
and we thought we thought our camps being ramsacked. Really,

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but when we looked out for nothing changed.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
That's what be specific. I know you've told us stories
a million times, but try can you be specific when
you say you heard the camp being torn.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Apart the shelter, Yes, no, there we heard our goods
that were inside the barrels being taken out, the food
that we brought up with being taken out, and the
cans that were in there been thrown out. And yeah,
there were pots and pans out. But you hear all
this rocket going on, and you don't but you're not

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making notes at the time. You're just listening and wondering
what's going on. But you look out there later and
nothing that changed. Nothing that changed. I mean, the barrels
were still just the way they were tied up. Before
over cables and right the car, all kinds of there's

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all kinds of things now that I mentioned that in
David is Fishing for one. Yeah, just stuff like that happened.
You can't you can't explain it classically, you can't put
a finger on it. And that's what got me into
quantum theory because the quantum science, as you know, goes
beyond our classical science. And even though we all live

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in our third density, we need to know and understand
there's other densities out there, other the vibrations that we
just don't see here or touch or feel with our senses.
And that's all classical science is based on, is what
you can material and physical, and yet there's so much
more going on, and anyone that says there isn't just

(01:04:36):
how they're uneducated with it. Just got to look into it.
Because a lot of times people used to call them, oh,
he's in the WU or something like that. Well now
I consider that a compliment, except they just don't know
what they're talking about, because really, the quantum physics is
not the WU. It's just it's not the paranormal. It's
it's it's existing and it works all the way from
Adam throughout the cosmos. It's we're in a third density.

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That's our that's our place here on this planets their density,
and there's other vibrations higher that we just uh where
we can, we can get to them in this but
we've got to know how. That's our purpose here on
this planet is to increase our vibration to get better.
I got a whole program we're talking about this. It's
kind of interesting early, I think, and I revoted my

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life to it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
Really, well, what have you done? Okay? All right, Ron?
What have you done differently?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Though?

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Now that you have these theories you go out with Daryl,
what do you guys do different you know? Based on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Actually, yeah, the best thing you can do is learn
how to control your fear, because they feed on fear,
and I think anybody with fear, you're going to have
your your enemy is going to be out there. You
can't fear it, and you just got to know who
you are as a human, know that you've got dominion
on this planet and nothing's gonna going to bother you
if you if you feel out a way about yourself,

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then you're going to be okay. Just don't fear it.
That's easier said than done because a lot of people
they want to run through this stuff. When we were
up that camp, you can't run. I mean you just
got to stay there and stick it out no matter
what's going on. And so anyway, that's what I that's
what I suggest to people. Learn how to control your fear.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
So okay, so control your fear. What other things do
you do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Be yourself? Just be good, be a good person. I
don't like to say it that way. I mean, you
can't go up there with a gun and start shooting
around the tink Hans and all that stuff. But just
show that you're respect respect where you're at, respect to
the earth, respect everything around you. Because We're very fortunate
to be on this planet and I'm very fortunate to

(01:06:44):
have the experiences we're having, and I think that's what
makes us human. We should learn to respect the trees,
respect the water, respect the respect the forms when you're
out there, because that's what I think went wrong with
the people who have been portlocked. When they Discovery Channel
took me up there. People in port Lock, Alaska that
got mingled years and years ago, I think they were

(01:07:05):
disrespecting the property and I think probably these things. That
was just my thoughts about what went on, because I
noticed when I flew over the helicopter that has really
been a clear cut timbered a lot years and years ago.
You could see the growth differences, and they were overfishing
it from the pictures I saw, because this is all
recorded from the late forties, nineteen forties, and you can

(01:07:31):
read upon all this stuff because it's not like if
it happened, it happened, and what caused it to happen
is what they were wondering. And all you can do
is guess because nobody's around nowadays that was there then
they could tell you about it, and so it's kind
of a guesswork on my bar. But they wanted someone
that could suggest something to them, and I suggested, if
come back in here, if you want to reinventuate this village,

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which they did, disrespect things, respect my property.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
A great question, and somebody in the audience said the
same thing. But why do they try to scare us?
Why do they project either you're using infra sound.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I think they want to see if they can that's
exactly right. They fade, Yeah, they just want to see
if they can scare you. So just stand your ground.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
And they don't let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
These have a way they tear you off. You know,
they don't like you. You know, these creatures have a
way of rating you. They can tell your intentions, and
their abilities are very difficult to believe, but it's true.
They know when you walk into the woods what your
intentions are, and if you're carrying a weapon or or

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a camera, they don't like that. And your chances of
seeing them are very rare. And you've got to have
the right frame of mind, as Ron stated, and I
use it even I usually direct myself to them when
I walk in in the woods, and I've used many
a time the word I'm here to visit you in
your home the Shahi Tanka because the shahi tanka and

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relates to the word is a great leader of the
forest by the Native Americans. And they do understand that
it is the plan that I was rifted. And they
have ability to understand what you're failing and what your
intentions are. And I can't hopely tell you that they
have it. I don't know how they have it, but

(01:09:33):
they have that topical sets. Oh, I think we all
have it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Darryl sel Darryl, Is there a way I don't know.
If you use an external mic, can you get closer
to your computer mic or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Is that any better? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Yeah, yeah, of course closer you get it's going to
be better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Yeah. I think Ron and right and and I pretty
much have talked about these type things so many times
and pretty much agree on it because we both believe
it and that these creatures have an ability to just
pick up on your abilities and what you're there of,
and if you're scared, they pick up on it and

(01:10:12):
they will write it out because they don't like figure
and they think they are the the upper one. We're
the lower one, they're the higher beings. And I know
they feel that way. And there are a lot of
really friendly ones and ones that you can be around

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as long as they feel you're the same way. It
takes a lot of time to earn their trust.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
Well, is it? Is it generally the females that are
the nicer ones than the males are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
The more I think. I think so, I think that's
just my opinion because I think probably, yeah, the female
is the one you go in between. If you can
gain some trust within the female and show that you're
not there for bad intentions, and you're not there to
harm them or to harm their land or their or

(01:11:05):
their family, then they are the ones will start to
possibly give you that chance to be trusting.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
Very interesting, but I still do wonder why they're testing us,
because let's say you're a good person and you're confident
in yourself, you know you're not going to harm them,
and then they scare the living crap out of you.
Would they would?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
They all self imposed? Doug? I mean, how's anything go
to scare you unless you just let it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Well, yeah, I agree, But if they're you're sitting there
in your cabin and they bang into it real hard,
it startles you. You know, it's startling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
You know, we were in a cabin. We were in
a cabin and they'll be Yale and a certain area
that we stayed in, and they were all around our
tabin all night long. I mean, if they were walked
by the window, you can see their shadow. And Ryan
got up, I got up, We all got up, and
the creatures was on the front porch of this place,

(01:12:14):
banging a rock on the concrete step. And that went
on for quite a while, and they were trying to
get our attention. They weren't actually trying to harm us.
They want to let us know that they're there. And
if they wanted to harmless, they have the strength and
the power to knock the door down and pull every
one of us out. So they had their own reasons

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for some of that. I can't answer all of those.
I don't think anybody can. But if they did have
any type of feeling towards you that you're not there
to harm them, then they're not going to harm you
in my opinion. Now, there are some bad ones out there.
I've run into some of those, and I do think
some of those would probably take you out, would probably

(01:12:58):
even eat you for dinner. But a bigger majority of
them are not like that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Well is it possible. I'm just gonna throw this out there.
They just have a really great sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
They do. They're toy with people, they do. They tod
with us up there. We didn't really They think that
we think we're smarter than them, and early they outgoing, Uh,

(01:13:31):
you know, we try to trick them and they go
right around it. Uh. So many times we tried tricks,
so many times. That's what we needed. We thought was
a picture all that was recordings, but we're still trying
to get a picture all the time, and that was
just virtually impossible that they file fox he's trying to
go around the camera trap or something like that. What

(01:13:53):
I have what I have discovered though, is these things
have a human component to them. Doug and I believe
that one percent because of the studies had done on
the sounds, they represented something over right foot tall and uh.
And then you got Scott Nelson, a crypto linguists, who
said there's a language. And then you got Professor Philip

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Brown University says only humans have language, so you get
into language and that's really critical.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Do you remember that John Green, I think, helped finance
a study on your sounds with doctor Benson at A
and M Texas A and M. Do you remember that
study at all?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah, I don't remember John Green had anything to do
with it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
But I remember, Well, maybe he didn't. You know, this
goes back a lot of years, Okay, but I do remember.
What I do remember, Ron this is important. Doctor Benson
called me up and he said that creature had to
be no less than eight hundred pounds because he could
measure the vocal cord length right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
That's what Curlin did too, and the unknowns to each other.
You know, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Benson didn't know anything about the curling study.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah, and he's a sound a sound engineer, doctor Benson was,
but he didn't do a fool study. I contacted him
and I asked him, I just don't have time to
do it. He's like, I can't do it, but you
don't know how what's really going on people's minds when
he comes to Bigfoot and he started talking about stuff
like this, because academy takes a takes a real hit
if they tackle a subject like this. But it's getting

(01:15:29):
better and better as we go through year after year.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
People are well, he did a preliminary but he could
but he could measure the vocal core distance exactly. And
he came to the conclusion, called me up and he goes,
now this, whatever made these sounds is massive.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yeah, I didn't know he got it hold of you.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
Oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I was a program.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
I was heavily involved with Benson and sound and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah, business still with us? Is he's still around?

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
I would think so. I bet he's retired though.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah. Well, actually, doctor Chris Blair West Texas, A and M.
He's the one who I quoted my studies. But he
said only everything works between from the atom to the
cosmos and the quantum physics. So I rely on that
statement quite a bit. And of course Edgar Mitchell has
some things to say too. Takes classical and quantum sciences

(01:16:33):
together have clear perception. So why don't researchers use all
the science available? You know, you got these sciences out there,
But still I want to They want something to feel
a touch of material, and really there's something else going
on that we need to get a finger on here.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Well, so many people don't. Really, so many people do
not ever grasp on quantum physics. They just don't. And
the best way I've heard, yeah, I always explain it
to somebody who's thinking, I have two envelopes. One says yes,
one says no, and then I I hand one off
to an alien and he drives that envelope a billion

(01:17:14):
jullion miles away, and then I open my envelope and
it says no. I know instantly that his envelope says yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
It's kind of like that, you know, because yeah, two particles,
because see, can they cloak you? Know I got the
science behind I think how they can disappear. And that
sounds very strange people because nothing can disappear from your eyesight, right, Well,
that's not right. Things can disappear from you. Everything is
a frequency energy and vibration. Lights frequency is between four

(01:17:46):
and thirty and seven and senty terrors. Everything outside that
frequency you're not going to see. What causes that is light.
If you don't have lights, you don't see. So what
happens you're not seeing me or somebody else when you're
looking at him, you're seeing flection of them because of
the light. There's dark, you wouldn't see them. So really,
if you just understand how things really work in the

(01:18:08):
universe and throughout throughout everything you're you're involved in and
the third dinsy even you get further along with your studies.
And I wish that others could understand this part because
it's just so critical I think to understanding of what
we're dealing with here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Well do you believe why then do you believe quantum
physics are the same thing as dimensions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Well, the club's physics has dimensions. The dimension is just
a different vibration. I think we can if you find
the vibration of anything, kortn Einstein, You find the vibration
of anything can change its matter. So my theory is
my theory from the sounds, because we never have able
to capture to scope the sounds. Just how far they

(01:18:52):
can go, how far up, how far down if they
can get an infirst sound, or how what frequency they
can reach. I don't we don't know. We weren't capturing
that with the cassettes. But if you find the frequency
of anything, if they can, if they can make the
frequency to change their matter into energy, because it's all frequency.
You get anything of forty nine, howk do you go
to change into light any sound? So what I'm saying

(01:19:15):
is is my theory is right, that maybe is Maybe
that's why we're here tonight is because I think their sound,
they are able to create the sound that would change
their matter into energy, and I would cause their trackways
to stop. That was cause them to dissipate out of
our vibrational frequency, our perception.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Ron It brings me to a question I've got to
ask you. I love it, okay, So I guarantee you've
probably never been asked this question. Have you ever experienced
or heard a kind of a hum, a deep hum
while around these creatures. Ever, and you might have to
think like almost the homybird's wings.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Right. I heard what I thought was a tuning fork.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
A big That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
This was daytime. I couldn't find the source of it,
but we watched it. Listen for it, watch for it.
I saw UFO up when you need to talk about
that because it was very significant. But it was a
big blue ball coming down from the sky. This is
all happening the same time he was having the big
for the encounters. So what they are I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
But maybe let's talk what's going back up?

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Maybe they're an I want to.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Talk about the home wark a little bit more. Okay,
is there any of that on any of your recordings?
Was important?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
This was day and I didn't have my recorder out,
and it was just the one time I remember it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Describe Can you take a little moment and describe it better?

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Yeah? You know what a tuning fork? You know what
tuning forks?

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
I was like, yep, yep. Was it like your ear
by your ear?

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
No, it was up to the sky, it was coming
down from above us. It wasn't in my ear. We
heard it, but it wasn't in the ear. I think
there has a lot with the dimensions personally, so well,
everything is you know, if they can, Like Einstein said,
you find the frequency of anything can change its matter.
So these things, I think, uh, something that's created them,

(01:21:28):
that made who knows, might get into the antinocchy make
it deeper than anybody wants to get into tonight. But
it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun
when your life look into this stuff. I gotta tell
you that. And I've done a lot of it. We
know that. You know, the fourth dimension is all I've
heard about most of my life, and now Signs said
there may be up to eleventh dimensions. So I don't

(01:21:49):
know how many dimensions are. I don't think anybody actually does,
but I do think a lot of those sounds are
coming from the vibrations between the dimensions. That's just my
personal yes, but I've heard what I believe to be.
I don't know if you've ever heard of juice harp
that we call him in Tennessee. It's a little juice
harp you play with your mouth. It sounds like that.

(01:22:15):
That sound I've heard that that boom when you flick
it like that in the woods before, and that was
also around the same.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Time that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
We've seen all the orbs in that particular area that
we heard that. And Martin Grose he heard that big
sound like a steel door slamming twice when he was
in the wildernes, especially when the dog Man tried to attacking,
just a few months after my first experience. So I

(01:22:46):
believe it's just a personal it's my opinion. I don't
have any proof of it, but I believe it's something
to do with the two dimensions closing together or coming together,
because a lot of that that's been hard, something very
significen steel Tomic if you all remember Tomic Myssic Messic

(01:23:10):
that disappeared in New York. He's in the hunting of
day Plautus's fail. It was said by all the hunters
in the woods, including his brothers. The day that he disappeared,
just out of nowhere. I never found a twice of
him that that same slamming like a steel trapped door.
Noways was hurting the woods, and uh, you know, he

(01:23:32):
was never seen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Any that's crazy. Have you ever heard anything? I know
you probably don't go out in the woods as much
as these guys standard. Maybe you do, you live in
a good area.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Well, for June, I didn't go out in the woods
for this specific purpose. Since then, I've spent quite a
few hours out there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
My theory on the sound is it may be likened
to a phase shift.

Speaker 9 (01:24:05):
Since we're talking about dimensions, they can exist at the
same time, simply out of phase from one another.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
Interesting, So have you electricity every day?

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Have you heard sounds ever in the woods that you've
been in the woods?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Yeah, I've heard them from my driveway.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Actually, really like what.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
The first was this really long and very interesting whistle.

Speaker 9 (01:24:35):
And I live next to a winery, so at first
I thought it might be my neighbors having a little fun.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
With their own bruise.

Speaker 9 (01:24:44):
But it was a Thursday night, and these guys typically
get up before the sun, and this was after midnight.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
I didn't know what to think of it.

Speaker 9 (01:24:54):
So I asked Kevin because I thought it might be
more in the demonic realm, and I was assured quickly
that know what I heard was a sasquatch, to which
skeptical me said, no, that's not possible.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Funny how things change over time.

Speaker 9 (01:25:16):
I've been told that the reason I heard those sounds,
the reason I found what I founded on March first
of this year, is because they've been watching me for
a while, so I didn't know that it was peeping sasquatch.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
And you live right in the woods too, don't you stand.

Speaker 9 (01:25:34):
Well, Yeah, I live about ten miles outside of anything
you'd call a town.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
My neighbor's a winery.

Speaker 9 (01:25:44):
I've got mountains and a deep lake and blm surrounding me. Wow,
that's Bureau of Land Manglement, I mean management.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:25:55):
And surprisingly, we've found quite a few structures in these areas.
We just released a video last Sunday called dream Weaver,
where we found probably a seventy foot tree that was
woven between other trees to where the tree that's horizontal

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literally bends around each one of the trees.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
And I'm still trying to figure out how that could
happen naturally.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Well, we thought it was rather interesting. And that's the thing.

Speaker 9 (01:26:31):
Can't prove anything that we find is actually them because
we didn't see it being built. But you got to
kind of wonder and if it were college kids doing
pranks on the side of a mountain in a national forest.
You'd think it would be all over Instagram and Facebook.
They'd want credit for this.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
Yeah, right, say Ron. Everybody keeps asking about whether you
have ever experienced being frozen kind of paralyzed, stuck to
the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Yes, yes, Warren Johnson and I walked up were one
of these things. We knew it was inside the shelter.
The same was mouthing off out there, and we thought,
you know, we're getting kind of loose with it. Then
we figured they're not gonna eat this or carr us
word or Nothing're not gonna attack us. It was go
out and they would see it run away the bright
moon at night. We both jumped out of the shelter

(01:27:23):
door and started walking up towards that tree where it
had to be probably thirty feet away from the shelter,
and we got just a few feet of that tree
and we both just got froze at the same time,
I mean yet the same time. Without talking to each other.
It happened and we just couldn't. You can't move. It's
I related my book to like a force field and

(01:27:44):
Star Truk or something. I just you don't know what
to think about it. It had to be one other
time up there in the woods, but where I wasn't
thinking about Bigfoot at all, and I was walking along
and all of a sudden, it's where your hair sends
off the back of your neck and you're just al sudden,
I'm frozen, and I'm looking around trying to figure out
what's causing this, and I couldn't find any source of
it anywhere. But well, they went away just about as fasts.

(01:28:06):
It came now the night warning and I walked up
to that tree. We couldn't go forward anymore. We just
could not walk forward. And he looked at me and said,
I don't know about you. We probably didn't feed apart.
He says, I gotta go back, and I can't walk
forward anymore. I can't either. Went back to the shelter,
got inside, and these things started mouthed off again, like
it was having fun with us or something. So we

(01:28:27):
talk about them toying with us. They do toy with
you because they got they got abilities that affect us,
and we just a lot of us don't know how
to handle that stuff. But nothing surprises me anymore. That's
why I don't mind getting in the woods with dog
Man with Neural Martin or anything like that, because it's
just it's because it's exciting and something might happen. It

(01:28:49):
makes us a little bit more understanding.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
Okay, well, let's stop right there and talk about dog
Man for a bit. Stan. What do you think they are? Yeah,
do you think they're like, is it even plausible to you?

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
I don't know. That's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:29:08):
There's a lot of reports. I've seen a few YouTube videos.
I received information they're just kind of like a grumpy
or bigfoot. Okay, I don't know, though the K nine
teeth would probably make me a little nervous.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Yeah, it's different. So Darryl and Ron, I think, Darryl,
you've actually seen one of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
An't you. I've seen H four completely, I mean complete
dog Man, the entire the entire dog Man except for
the fate part on the one that Mark and I
did the documentary on, and I've seen numerous others in

(01:29:54):
the trees and bush is just parts of them. So yeah,
I think that they're not They're not anything like a
big thread at all. The first one I seen was
in Tazwell County, Virginia in two thousand and one, the
twenty twenty one excuse me, and that looked like a

(01:30:15):
massive German shepherd about the three times the size of
a black German shepherd ran was. When it ran across
the field and galloped like a horse, it was such
a strange run, more like a gallop. And when it
got to the edge of the field, it stood up
on two legs and put one leg over a barb

(01:30:35):
wire fence and walked into the woods. The other ones
I seen were different looking the one at Martin Grows
and I've seen in the documentary Breed Down with Small
Town Monsters in the LBA L same area that Ron
goes with us at there. That one was like nothing

(01:30:57):
I've ever seen. It went from a red colored, bluish
miss into a creature on the ground staring right at
me in the window of the Martin Groves truck. I
was on the pastor side he was driving. We were
in a very remote area, old gravel roads, going into
the area where he had his encounter. We were there
because it was a twenty ninth anniversary of his encounter,

(01:31:21):
and that one was completely different any of the other
that it had to hit about the size of half
our wingshield. It had maine around its neck like a lion,
and gar deep eyes, and it had kind of a
grimnace on its face. Very strange creature. Never seen anything

(01:31:46):
like you say.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
Okay, so for you there a million times for sure
they're real. I've interviewed many witnesses of dog Man, and
I certainly it's always surprising because I've talked to some
people that have had many observations of them, especially people
who own property.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
You know, I get messages pretty regular people who have
them all around their property. Yeah. Actually, Jennifer Appleton in
my group, she has them all over her property. Beth
Collins work also, both of them in Tennessee. A couple

(01:32:28):
other people out in Texas I know real close to
have them regularly. They seem to be a lot more
common than they used to be. Or maybe they were
always here and people just didn't talk about them. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
Yeah, that could be. So dog man is something that
is it just like bigfoot?

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Run?

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
Do you put them in the same category dogmen and
big Foot?

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
I think the whole I think the whole planet is
a hybridation program. You know, there's so many hybrids out here.
We know what's coming here and what's doing what, what
kind of aliens messing with that? You know, of what species?
I think a lot of that's going on. It has
for ages, and you know, if they can create a bigfoot,
they can bald bigfoots aren't the same. I mean, I

(01:33:19):
just don't believe that at all. I've been all over
the world now with this subject matter, and they're just
reported differently, and what they are we don't know. We're
all looking for that, but but they're all. They can
be different and some can be aggressive, some could be
not aggressive. I think we're lucky up there to Sierras.
They're not aggressive. You know, they sounded that way sometimes

(01:33:40):
they they never heard us.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
And yeah, we're all, don't walk away, right, We're all here,
we're all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
That's right. Yeah, I still get in the salt pepper
off my shoulder, but that's okay. Uh, they're only We've
got some stuff going on, and we're gonna get back
into the line between the less next year, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Also, we got a podcast you mentioned to start with. Yeah, yeah,
we aired again this this Monday. We've had well a
million views just the first one. Or two. So anyways,
we're going No One coming tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Actually, so well is that called?

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Is that?

Speaker 8 (01:34:22):
This is it?

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
I haven't written down here called real cryptied legend.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Legends fins exactly. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
I have a link and then Jeff up a link.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
We got a real good we got a really good
show tomorrow. We're very honored because mail But doesn't do
very many interviews, and I think they invited about three
hundred times, and we're very blast happened to know her
and Robin Hayes pretty well and they're coming on our
show and it's going to be just a great show,

(01:34:59):
we hope. I don't know if we guys can hear
me or not, but I can't hear anything.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
Oh yeah, we hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Hear you? Uh can hear your brother? I waved the ham.
Yeah we can hear you. Okay, he I just can't
hear you. Well, we've got Robin Haynes on tomorrow night.
It ought to be a good show.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
Yeah, it sounds like it. Jeff, can you text Ron?

Speaker 8 (01:35:30):
And I just did?

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Yeah, Rod, And I've also got we've got an adventure
coming in uh sometime around February. He and Martin Grows
and uh, our good friend Mike Smith from Kentucky that
did the documentary with us with Small Town Monsters, and
Ethan O would put this thing together when he contacted

(01:35:56):
me three or four months ago. We're going into an
area that he's disclosed that has all kinds of creatures,
stuff like I've never seen, and even pyramids and structures,
and all five of us will be going into there
with a team to kind of hopefully be able to

(01:36:17):
get in there safely and get film and see this
area and these creatures that's coming up this year and
be like nothing that none of us have ever done.
I've never seen some of these creatures that I'm seeing
pictures of, so it's a little alarming at the same time,
and hopefully we can get in there and do what
we're wanting to do and get out safely.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
All right, somebody else to repeat the name of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
It's called Two Real Tried Legends.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
Yep, Two Real Crypto Legends.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
That was Ron's name that he named the show. And
I was happy with him naming the show so real
honored to be there with him and him hosting with me.
Real good.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
I'm sorry, Derek do you have an exact like day
of the week you do those?

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
We do those every other Monday. We're on the United
Public Radio Network. Uh. Michelle de Rochers is our moderator
and our manager, and where every other Monday, ten o'clock
Eastern time.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
Very cool, very cool, very cool. So a couple more
questions here, do you guys believe in like the subspecies
of like there's more than one species of Bigfoot? Or
do you think they're all pretty much the same?

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Oh? No, there's lots of different types, diversity my opinions.
I know, I believe, I believe that I've seen at
least four different types, maybe five. The first one I've seen,
I've never seen another one like that, and I hope
I never do. That was what's out in the southern
area that it lives. It's called a woodburger, and it's

(01:38:05):
the meanest, nastiest looking one I've ever seen. So and
then there's other ones, the ones that I've befriended on
the river and to see for a little less than
five years and visited on a regular basis. They look
more like what I call the number three or four
by the by what they described the type ten bigfoot groups,
or they'd be twenty big groups. I have no idea,

(01:38:27):
but by that Partickel your book, they look like more
like the Patterson Gimman type. That type and I've seen
other ones. I'm not sure how many different types there are,
but I just said I believe four to five different
is what I've seen.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
Yeah, what do you think about that? Run? What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
I'm not sure you hear us.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Oh, he's definitely muted.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Run.

Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
Your make is muted at the three.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
Bottom there's a little microphone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Oh, I I think there's different ones. I've been, like
I mentioned, around the world with stuff, and I've been
in Peru and I found out that Uh. I just
seen a socophagus opened up about the queen u p
U a b I had long age skull and that's

(01:39:24):
the same ones I seen in Peru, we believe you
when I was down there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Which takes us way back into geneic gene manipulation, and
I just think a lot of that's been done on
this planet. We tend to live in a bubble ourselves,
thinking that this is all there is, and we think
we're the smartest things on this planet. But we're not
We're just humans and very special, but we're here, but
we're not the smartest things, so.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
You think, so you do think that bigfood's been genetically modified.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Well, but I also yes, However, I think that a
lot of them have prosspit with Indigenous people, a lot
of them become more human like than others. And I
just think that's the Patterson film, the track I've seen
there about giving a track, I've just I disbelieve because
our tracks are different, are very displayed very much, a
lot bigger and hard to tell rifle from the left foot,

(01:40:19):
where the Gimman track is definite right foot, left foot,
right foot, left foot, and there are a lot of
arts in there, and I just think there are a
lot of or according to Indigenous people, a lot of
Native American lower goes back, and so they were taking
their women and that means I would have to have
twenty three pairs of chromosomes, which means they couldn't breed,

(01:40:40):
which also falls right into my theory about them being
part human. I think something created us, something created them.
And you know, we're not all evolved like evolution says,
We're just different. A whole lot of that stuff missing
our history books have got to be rewritten one of
these days. Who knows who will be part of it,

(01:41:01):
but absolutely, Uh, it's just a lot of a lot
of stuff has happened in the past that we gotta
we gotta get in tune with and understand because I
just think, Uh, a lot of genetic manipulation has gone on,
a lot of hybridation's going on a lot of a
lot of species here have been hybrid are hybrids, including us.

(01:41:25):
We're hybrids, and just there's no accounting for what games
of our abilities, which we have, by the way, just
recessed in us. We haven't learned how to move into
them yet, but we we should. That will change our vibration.
That's the whole point of this whole earthly trip we
have is to get our vibration higher so we get

(01:41:46):
out of this third density. Otherwise never can get out
of it. You got to repeat if you don't learn something.

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
Oh, yeah, absolutely, I mean that's got to be our
main goal. Do you think the government pretty much, if
they've captured aliens and they've communicated with them, do you
think they know most of the answers?

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Well, I don't think they know. I don't think they
know most of them. Excuse me interrupt to you, Doug,
but I don't think they do. I think they know
that something exists. But again, if they can't explain it,
they're not gonna they're gonna say anything about it. They're
gonna make fun of it or hide it some way.
They have to be able to explain it to people
or they won't acknowledge it. And they can't explain Bigfoot.
They can explain the document, they can't explain it. That's

(01:42:32):
why they hit the UFOs because now they have to.
They have to talk about it because people have seen
them all over. They're gonna have to talk about this
other thing, bigfoot, dogment, all that stuff because people are
seeing them all over nowadays. And you can't commit some
of these people is a pigment of their imagination, because no,
you try to tell Martin Grosse he didn see one
face to face Martin Grows. I mean, he's a retired deputy,

(01:42:56):
he's our buddy, a friend and brother and all that stuff.
But he is serious knowing he says he saw one
face to face and starts pretty much turning up, and
I mean deputy served for thirty years. He no, he
did see something that it's enough to turn you on
turn you off onele the other. But they're out there.

(01:43:16):
The biggest thing, again is is learning to control your fear.
It's hard to say, it's easy to say, but it's
hard to do. But learn who you are as a
human and you won't fear anything because no matter what
happens to you, you're gonna be okay. And that's easier
said than done to anyway, go ahead, Ron, Sorry, Oh,
I'm just gonna we go in the land between the

(01:43:37):
Lakes again. Now we take plenty of solid pepper. I'm
riding a horseyl the way. If they get hungry, they're
gonna eat the horse.

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
To to mean, Yeah, you guys mentioned you think Darryl
said it. You said it that you think there's more
of these things. I agree with that statement. I think
there's a lot more sightings. That they've got to be
more of them, because well, if you just go by
natural history, we have far more food for them now.

(01:44:07):
There's so many deer, just the deer alone all over
the country.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
You know, Doug that I think the thing that got
my attention about Lamb between the Lakes. You know it
hadn't been but four or five years ago, there were
no wild hogs in the lbal land between the lakes.
Now there's so many wild hogs there and it's unreal.
So they didn't turn those wild hogs there for no
reason at all. So there's a lot of creatures feeding

(01:44:33):
on those creatures. So everybody loves bacon, that's exactly right.
And there's those things that just taken over the area,
and you know it's I have a real theory on
the The government knows they're there there, there's no doubt
in my mind about that. When you've got industry called

(01:44:53):
the National Parks. Of course, the lb AL is run
by the National four through service, but when you have
the interestry colin nation some parks, it takes in two
point eight billion, that's with a bee a year in
tourist revenue. They're not going to tell someone all these tourists, well,
there's some kind of eight or nine foot creature might
be running through the woods and it's not each year

(01:45:15):
or story to death, and you know that wouldn't do
very much for the tourism and the tourist dollars. So
that's a big reason that they'll never tell us. And
on top of the fact all the other things that
are in the course that are hard to believe. I've
seen things in the lb Ale, but I don't even understand.
So there's creatures out there that I haven't heard of.

(01:45:40):
Matter of fact, Ryan and I were together there a
few years ago and we seen a creature on the
side of the road in the middle of nowhere and
a place called the Trace, that looked like a grizzly bear,
but it had the head of an anteater. So what
is that. I've never seen that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
The vote so okay, back of the truck. It's a
bear with an hand your head.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
We've seen a creature that was about the size of
a grizzly bear sitting on the side of an area
we call the Trace, the main road through the LBA
and Martin Groves locked up the car the brakes to
go back up look at it, and we did back up,
and then it ran off by the time we got
a position to be able to get a picture of it,

(01:46:26):
and it had it was about the size of the
of a bear, but it had the head of a
like an anteater or something. So I don't know what
it was. I've never seen anything like that, and there's
a lot of a lot of strange things in the
wilderness out there that that you don't hear about. And
you know, people they think it's crazy, but it's nothing

(01:46:48):
but out there. We also seen a well we call
a crawler that same tree. Three of us seen that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:56):
And well, don't you just say that, you get it,
tell you can't just chese this.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Say, a humanoid looking creature that I was walking in
the woods in the dark with a bright flashlight and
Martin Groves and Martin and me were behind me on
a trail in an area that's real active and I

(01:47:24):
heard just clicking, THOUGHI it's like a click click click.
I never I didn't know what it was. And I
shined a lot in the area and I felt this
creature running across through the woods and it looked like
a humanoid as a human looking creature on all fours,
real thing, real scheme. He kind of a palish graycutter.
And it ran up a tree and we all three

(01:47:45):
seen it and shine flashlight on it and tried our
best to get a picture of it. And they ran
up a real tall tree and every time were shining
a lot and to go to the other side and
then we heard it clicking up behind me and uh,
like in this community with this thing, something else was
click and got there back to it. It was communicated.
So I don't know, I've never seen anything like that before.

(01:48:08):
So my point is there's a lot of things out
there that it's hard to believe at these think this
kind of stuff exists, but it does. And we had
that cooking noise up at our stair camp one night
and we started out the stove area. We was inside
the shelter, three of us, and they started getting closer

(01:48:29):
and closer to the shelter. We thought, well, where's coming
in here? What kind of clear is that? Also it's
inside the shelter. The door was closed and we shine
light and it stopped, so we shine light and then
kept clicking right next and you couldn't see it shine lightness.
It's gone. And uh I write about that in my

(01:48:49):
book too. That's one of the oways we had going
on with us up there. So what's the clicking? I
don't know, but uh what happened. Yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
Clicking sound electrical tesla coils snapping.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
No, it sounds like like a have you ever seen
those clickers you had when you were a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
I have those when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
That's exactly what it sounded like, really, click three or
four times, and then something way up behind us would
do the same thing back to it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:26):
It was very strange, kind of a metallic metal kind
of a click.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
No, it didn't sound like that, but it just sound
like those old clickers. Click.

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
Damn it, damn it, damn And Daryl, you're supposed to
learn how to imitate.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
These not The only imitation I could give you with
that was get back to the truck. And that's what
we did.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
So L that's Dyrl's fair favorite line, get back to
the truck.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Boys. Well, I was, I don't want to say, a
little longer than they did. They wanted me to get
back to the truck. They were kind of afraid they
were some other ones coming to surround us because they
were creaking back. So it was very funny.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Excuse me, I'm going to go lock my doors now.
You get me all willed out, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
I think these things have to have a lot of energy.
That's why the batteries go dead. That's why they they
cited a lot of power lines, a lot. I think
something to do with the energy. That's that's the theory
that I've got. Uh, that's why our batteries get drained
a lot. That's why they get seen around power lines

(01:50:42):
and transformers, and it takes if you think about that's
the kind of theory about how UFOs are able to
move so fast and turn on a dime, going thirteen
thousand miles an hour. And that's because the energy they
they have to have energy to form this bubble around

(01:51:03):
their units, around who they are. And I just see
a documentary on that's going on actually today and I
got to look at it. That's more because if these
things can get enough energy, they can maybe do a
lot more. And yeah, there you go. Who's clicking.

Speaker 5 (01:51:22):
So stand you're on the woods alone. If you're on
the woods alone, you see one of these white rake
looking humanoid, little skinny creatures, what are you doing? Are
you running? Are you just looking for it? Like Daryl did?
I was asking Stan whether he runs or what he.

Speaker 9 (01:51:44):
Does generally when I'm in the woods, I carry a
wireless hole puncher.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
Ah God, gotcha, Yeah we know what those are. Where
this whole puncher that's a new new description from a rifle.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
That's a good that's going. Well.

Speaker 9 (01:52:01):
Typically it's a handgun because if I'm not out hunting,
I just have it for protection. I used to think
it was keeping me as the Apex predator until I
found out about our big, tall, hairy friends.

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
And I'm not so sure we're the Apex anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
In fact, I think we were a lot more like.

Speaker 9 (01:52:20):
Them until we domesticated ourselves into cities.

Speaker 8 (01:52:25):
Interesting theory. Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Yeah. Good, So you.

Speaker 5 (01:52:29):
Sleep good at night, Darryll, knowing you've seen some of
these things.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
You know, I don't think I'll ever get over my
very first encounter. That was if I haven't met the
family of not aggressive forest people I met on the
River Rougherence seven years later, I probably would have never
felt like I did now. But I don't think all

(01:52:55):
these creatures made us harm. I think they're living their
own exists, and you know, we just just stay out
of their way and let emily. So it's I don't
believe that the biggest majority of these creatures. It's just like,
you know, we're going into their home when we go
into the woods and or the forest, and you know,

(01:53:17):
it's just like them walking into our living room and
having a seat they wouldn't being invited unless we invited them,
and you have to look at it that way and
respect them and every white possible.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
So that's that's that's my opinion. Ron, and I've had
this conversise so many times. And if you live with fear,
like Ron says, and it's hard at times for not
to be a little fearful or at least be concerned.
But you can't be fearful. If you do, these creatures
will pick up on it and they'll apply to the
point of where.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
You think, okay, so fear repells them. That explains why
I'm afraid to take my garbage out completely. It's good,
it's good. Then I'm glad. You think I'm joking, Ron,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Well, that's okay. I would suggest you take your garbage
out in the daytime, I know, but.

Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
I don't always forget two in the morning, and I'm going, oh, crap,
garbage day, and I'm thinking everybody's asleeper the next twenty
miles except me, and I'm gonna go out there and
there's gonna be something weird happen, and it scares me
to do I joke. I joke, but I'm not joke.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
That's what I was doing when I heard what I heard. Yeah,
my cabage came out to the street.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
Yeh see, there you go. Okay, I don't want to
even don't ever say that again. Stamp ever.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
Ever, there's something that's saying said earlier that stuck in
my mind and I kind of wanted to get back
to you. You were talking about the whistles you heard.
You don't want to whistle back if you hear that?

Speaker 9 (01:55:02):
And then, oh no, I don't make any sounds. I
don't try to imitate calls. I don't do tree knocks.
I don't do anything because I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
What it means.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
It's well known in the Native American lower that you
never whistled back at not when you hear a whistle,
so it's not a very good time.

Speaker 9 (01:55:27):
Well, I have no idea what I'd be saying, so
I don't really want to say something that offensive.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
I don't think. Well, there's there's that I was.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
You can't say anything offensive. I was telling I'm telling
people to wear their pants pants.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
In the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
But you know, the world we live in is amazing,
and I've seen enough and experienced enough through the years
to know we are definitely not alone. There's definitely creatures
and things out there. We have no idea what they are,
We don't know where they come from. And so the
question I'm going to pose to all of you, though, is,

(01:56:20):
let's say a bigfoot fades in and out. Is it
possible that they don't know they're doing it? Or they
don't they they're not controlling it, it's being controlled by Okay, what.

Speaker 9 (01:56:38):
Was basically a cloaked one crossing the road where I
can see the outline of feet, But it looked like
the shimmer effect that you see in the desert on
hot asphalt from the heat radiating up.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Yet we were in a swamp where it was wet
and cold.

Speaker 9 (01:56:54):
Those conditions didn't exist, and literally it looked like feet
shuffling across the road.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
I was like, okay, did I.

Speaker 8 (01:57:05):
Just see that?

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Why didn't you tell me earlier about this?

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Well you can ask nice.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
I personally believe it's like what Ron is saying a
lot for a long time. The higher vibration that these
creatures has some way relates the tyler energy into a
different transformation, which can make them cloak or even turn
into an orb. I've seen lots of orbs. I can't

(01:57:37):
say they're big foot, but I've seen quite a few
up in an area that has a lot of those
creatures there.

Speaker 9 (01:57:43):
With a strong enough electromagnetic field, it is definitely possible
to bend light.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Yeah, so, okay, when did you see this?

Speaker 9 (01:57:53):
About three twelve pm the Tuesday, the twenty ninth of July,
geez okay ron. Three hours later, I was having a
face to face staring contest with this thing that it
was as black as black could be light absorbing, and
he was staring at me from the middle of a

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y shaped tree.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Bill.

Speaker 9 (01:58:18):
My research partner literally watched the squirrel fall off of
my wheel. While I was having an argument with myself,
I was thinking, am I actually seeing what I'm seeing?
Or do I want to see something so bad that
my mind is playing tricks on me. So I marked
the spot on the ground, stepped away for a few
seconds about thirty went back, stood in the same position,

(01:58:42):
and it was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
So I started to walk down the road a little.

Speaker 9 (01:58:46):
Bit to change the axis because maybe I lined up
something in the shape of the white tree like he
would on a dovetail gun site so I walked down
the road a little bit to see and there was
nothing black at all on the hillside. About fifty yards
further up the hill as a fallen log from a
tree that the Forest Service had cut up a much

(01:59:07):
larger tree. When I see a black head pop up
from behind and it starts rocking back and forth like
I'm doing right now. At that point, I realized I
didn't see what I thought I saw, and Bill asked
me immediately, He goes, are you gonna freak out?

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
Are you afraid?

Speaker 9 (01:59:27):
I said no, I'm more awestruck because I just saw
something that everyone tells me he doesn't exist, yet I
saw it. The crazy thing is I had my phone
in my hand in camera mode and didn't think to
try to take a picture.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
It was just that.

Speaker 9 (01:59:46):
Life changing moment right then, where it's like, Okay, I'm
seeing this and I'm not hallucinating, and this isn't my imagination,
this is really happening.

Speaker 5 (01:59:59):
Yeah, you never even thought of your phone, and that's normal,
that's by normal.

Speaker 9 (02:00:05):
I'm still skeptical about everything that we encounter, particularly the structures,
since we didn't actually see them build it, so we're
making assumptions, but I have to assume that something with
hands built this. Because I see geometry. I get measurements
that align to true north. I get forty five degree angles,

(02:00:28):
I get ninety degree angles, I get crosses, I get x's.
The weave trees that are completely horizontal to the ground,
and I put my phone on it to check the level,
and they're perfectly level.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
This is.

Speaker 5 (02:00:45):
This is all by your house, and yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:00:48):
This is within maybe a fifteen minute ride from my
house from where I'm sitting right now.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Kind of nuts, do you if you need time to
go lock your doors?

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
Go ahead, I'm not worried about it. Yeah, you will
dangerous and wanted to hurt me.

Speaker 9 (02:01:07):
I would be a glob of goo on the side
of a mountain in the national forest right now.

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
All right, next question to all of you guys, and
just chime in whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:01:16):
And by the way, there's lost everybody's audio.

Speaker 5 (02:01:19):
No, not again, All right, I'll ask you. I will
ask Ron and Darryl. Have you guys ever had anything,
Have you guys ever had anything follow you?

Speaker 9 (02:01:32):
But yeah, this has been a very interesting summer and
fall for me. This wasn't anything I ever expected to
be doing. And I didn't wake up one day and
suddenly say, you know, I'm gonna make everybody that knows
me and all my friends think I've lost my marbles.
I know exactly where all seven of them are. It's happening. Uh,

(02:01:55):
it's weird, it's interesting. And I had two choices. One
I could run away or I could embrace it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:04):
And I thought, well, you know, it's not like I'm
doing anything else. It's more interesting.

Speaker 9 (02:02:10):
And I got to meet Ron and work with Ron,
and I got to go to Beachfoot and Oakridge and
meet a whole lot of people who at the time
I didn't know who they were, but now I'm finding
out that I've met literally the top crew.

Speaker 5 (02:02:27):
So I got to ask a couple more questions.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
So, yeah, did you go Definitely been an interesting adventure.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Did you go out every day?

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
Bring something new?

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
I can hear?

Speaker 5 (02:02:41):
Don't think so.

Speaker 9 (02:02:42):
Just this last week Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, we went
out into the Applegate area in southwest Oregon and we
found a trackway with over one hundred prints and we
cast twenty one of them. Later on we went up
we found structures and at one structure found a print
that measures twenty six inches by fifteen inches. There's photographs

(02:03:07):
on our Facebook site. I put a pack of cigarettes
in the middle of it, just so you can see
how it dwarfed this thing. Every time we've gone out,
we find stuff that kind of makes me scratch my
head and go that just doesn't look natural. It looks
like it was planned or somebody did this.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Can you again.

Speaker 4 (02:03:28):
I don't know what was them for sure, because I
didn't see it happened.

Speaker 9 (02:03:31):
But ye, some of the logs that we found in configurations,
one we call Colossus weighs several pounds apiece, and there's
no evidence of drag marks. There's no root sockets or
root balls, and there's no evidence of any heavy machinery
ever having been in this part of the forest. So, yeah,

(02:03:53):
I got a lot of questions.

Speaker 5 (02:03:56):
Yeah, I got a lot of questions. You can't hear.

Speaker 8 (02:03:58):
Yeah, I don't think you can hear it all. I
just send him out of text.

Speaker 5 (02:04:01):
Just remove him and then he'll he'll reboot or whatever. Okay,
So do you think the government's jamming all of our phones?
It's kind of weird. It's like happened to everybody here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
You ask if I can follow us home?

Speaker 5 (02:04:15):
Yes, have you no no, No, it's not what I
asked you. I asked you, have you ever had a
weird like you were on an expedition, you come home
and there's something weird going on at home that night,
or something odd, almost like a haunting anything.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
Yes, I'm back.

Speaker 8 (02:04:35):
Can you hear it?

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
Okay, all right, hang on, stand by, stand run.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Yes, that clicking sign I talked about earlier. I heard
the same thing out in my field when I was
here getting done of my valley ranch down California. Okay,
And actually Bill mcgow's had the same thing. It's it's
not that you know. I thought you said that they
follow you. They don't follow you. They energy can be anywhere,
and I think the energy can be where you're at

(02:05:03):
at anytime they want to be.

Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
But if you have something in your run, I think
you misunderstood me. Did you have anything in your home inside,
in your bedroom.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
In your Nothing I know of. I've heard I've had
things beat on my home there's no one around. Yeah,
I go to the door thinking somebody around, But no.
I have heard people talk about how they win some
inside their home. Some very very credible people that have

(02:05:39):
that happen where they've seen these things physically outside, but
they've also had them inside their house. Well they can
go through walls.

Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
You say that run yet?

Speaker 2 (02:05:54):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:05:56):
Anyway, Yeah, we'll tell them all the story.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
What happened two thousand two twenty. We were in an
area of researching in Cheatham County, Tennessee, and we had
a big foot family there. We were gifting due to
a friend of ours who was his girlfriend and he

(02:06:21):
were scared today because these creatures were looking in their
windows at night, and we went down to help them out.
And after three or four months there, we had a
night where we had all these olds come down and
just actually they were just buzzing all around us. They
were about the size of the softball. The second week

(02:06:42):
and there was about six for seven of them just
flying around us. The week before that, we had two
large ones come down from somewhere and they were about
to pop it off the ground. Two large red or
about the size of beach balls, reddish orange pulsating and
we got kind of weirded out and we're going down

(02:07:02):
there for a while. And roughly a week later, at
two to three o'clock in the morning, something started beating
on my home. Roughly thirty miles from there on my
farm and banging on the wall in the middle of
the night, and I went outside several times and didn't
see anything. And this went on for got to the

(02:07:24):
point where I'd call my close friend Scott Carpenter and
the light Great Scott Carpenter, and he had told me
that the same thing. I knew that he had been
through that, and he told me to rebuke them. And
I did everything I could to get rid of these creatures.
They scared my horses to death and my field, the
horses were going crazy. I'd go down there at two

(02:07:46):
o'clock in the morning with my rifle in the middle
of the night and wait, sure they were okay, and
I had to let them out of the barn and
the stable, and they would stay closer to the driveways
on a streetline it was. And this went on for
quite a while, for the point that it got pretty alarming.
And uh, these creatures wouldn't start banging on my bang

(02:08:08):
on my house on the right side, and then the
left side, and for no reason at all. We didn't
have done anything too these creatures, but I'm aware of
And this went on for about two and a half months.
So I got to the point where I was armed
with a gun. I knew if it was going to
start happening every night, and I'd set up all night long.
I was living by myself in my home at that time,

(02:08:30):
thank goodness what I was. And I calls got carpenter
and he told me to rebuke him and they would
leave me alone. And I did rebuke him. Uh. He
told me to go all four corners of my home
and all four corners of my property and say the
name of Jesus christ Side pronounced you to leave me
and my family and animals along and leave my farm.

(02:08:53):
And I did that, and the next that same night,
I was fighting in the hallway for to start again
arm thinking they're going to break into the house. Never
happened to you, really really.

Speaker 8 (02:09:10):
Interesting, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
Lewis and johnsin one time with this air camp with
he was bothering us. He's up there one to go hunting.
That's all Lewis want to do is hunt, and these
things kept messing with us. And he said he just
don't shut up, go away, and they did. We didn't
know if it had anything to do with it or not,
but they did leave. Atrey said that so it's amazing.

(02:09:35):
I think they they're not supposed to interfere with us.
I think we're there are we got our experiences respond
to and they are not supposed to interfere with it.
But they do. And like I say, some of them
aren't human like the others. Sorry I interrupted you. No,
you're gone right. I was pretty much through with that,
you know. I was just saying, that's what happened. I

(02:09:57):
broke it down in a quicker There's a lot more
detail other than that, but that's what happened. And I
don't have any idea why they come and bang on
the side of my house, but they did, and they
throw it did some damages from my property. They had
a lot of barn cats at that time, but in
my barn. They didn't belong to me. They just lived
there and they killed all of them. Uh scared my

(02:10:18):
horses so bad. They never didn't go back into the
style of the barn again. They stayed next to the
streetlight and it's to the light and had one horse
that was super You just couldn't ride it. And I
was the only one that could do anything with him.
And that was the first time I'd ever seen his
hair became braided, the braided and all all his name

(02:10:41):
was braided. And I couldn't figure out how that could
happen because nobody could get closer.

Speaker 5 (02:10:46):
The witches not.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
I didn't know what that was at that time, but
that is That's what it was, and I never think happened.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
Okay, can you explain how complex the Brady or whatever
it was?

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
It was Chris cross and tied in a different way
at the very bottom, three different strands on the name,
but behind his head going down to the to his back,
it was very different. Uh, I've never seen quite that
type writing before. And uh, it was very strange. At

(02:11:22):
anything could get close enough to that horse. And you know,
he was a full stud and I could ride him,
but nobody else did. But didn't anybody get most and
the farrier come out to do his feet every month
or two. I'd have to we'd have to put a
twitch on him to even do that. So he was
he was pretty wild. He was one of those type
of horses that you just couldn't ride.

Speaker 5 (02:11:46):
Crazy. I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
We gone back from walking up there, and the horses
I can tie up and come back there big. Some
they put the trucks next to our horses, and people
asked me, did never see their horses? Main braided. I
always thought the horse got caught in a twig or something,
you know, and just twitched it around, because I never
looked for that. But it's interesting if that was what

(02:12:14):
was happening. I don't know if they don't have an
interest in their animals, they did have. That's exactly what
I was hoping what it happened.

Speaker 10 (02:12:21):
Ron.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
I kept looking at it when I was next to him,
and if the way it was tied at the bottom,
it wasn't by a stick or anything you got hung
up in. It was twisted in a way and kind
of blared out at the bottom of like a nod
in it that was tied. I don't know of anything
that got close to that horse like that. I do
think these creatures like you were talking about earlier. I

(02:12:43):
know I've been zapped personally, twiced by big Foot, once
by a dog bram or interesting whatever people want to
call it. I believe it's a type of radiation. But
I think they have some way to freeze you like
they did what Ron was talking.

Speaker 5 (02:12:57):
About, And did you experience, let me interrupt, you did
you experience un the kind of unfounded fear too along
with the zapping. Was it fear and kind of a paralysis?

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Well, I don't know that it was fear. I think
it was more concerned because when the first time I
got zapped was by a big shoot and Cheatham County, Tennessee,
pretty much in the same area that I was talking
about for where all this started happening to my house
being banged on that area there. You know, your my legs,
it's like your legs went to sleep, like you when

(02:13:33):
you had your a certain angle and your legs go
to sleep and you can't move them. That was the
way I felt with my legs and and my uh,
my stomach was upset. I felt very sick, and I
had a real bad headache on both times were the
big boot and the dog man that Mark grows and
I seemed to help be able to completely diff was
more of a headache, uh and upper chest feeling. But yeah,

(02:13:57):
it was a very strange feeling. That was about three
weeks before that happened at my home. But I would
zap and it was hard to get myself back oriented,
and I remembered Martin Groz. They told me if that
ever happens to you, you start saying prayer or or
or the or the Lord Shepherd, I mean the Lord's prayer,

(02:14:18):
and and I did that and it did work, and
I started coming back with my senses. These things weren't
trying to attack us. But it was just a weird
feeling that you were out of You had no wady
to control yourself. You couldn't get up and run if
you had to, you couldn't get up and defend yourself.
And h it was. It was a very strange feeling

(02:14:39):
that first time. All three times, it was strange that
the first time was very good.

Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
Crazy stand Have you ever had, you know, slaps your
bangs in your home?

Speaker 9 (02:14:54):
While I was working on Ron's audio book, there was
tapping on my walls and how loud, not really super loud.
I just acknowledged their presence that they were there and said,
thanks guys, I'm kind of working on this. And it's
for them too. I mean, the more people that learn

(02:15:16):
about them, the less people that will fear them, since
fear is literally based on lack of knowledge or understanding
of something. Right, good thing to say, I love that,
thank you. Yeah, I brought a little something to show.
This is for Monday. It's got the mid tarsl break

(02:15:39):
yeh toet slip. And then I got a double print
that's deep too, and it was a trackway with over
one hundred prints, and we believe it was three different
juveniles based on the track sizes.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
That's crazy. Yeah, I was looking at some of your
photos and you've actually have a lot of stick structures.
I don't know if you had any of that stuff
you want to share.

Speaker 8 (02:16:09):
Jeff, No, I didn't. I didn't. I don't have. All
I have is I've got a really good audio clip
from Ron here. We can play that when you want to.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
Do that, So explain. Can you set this up? Run
the audio clip we're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (02:16:23):
What's you say on it? There? Jeff? Is there two
of them or disagreement?

Speaker 8 (02:16:29):
You sent me one? Let's see here. I don't remember
what it was called.

Speaker 5 (02:16:37):
Why did Ron send you that one?

Speaker 8 (02:16:40):
This one is his zero five rapid fire sequence?

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
That is that dog warking on my end or somewhere else,
not me?

Speaker 5 (02:16:57):
Would be really really?

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
I think it's probably I think it's probably two of
them just disagreeing with each other. What if.

Speaker 5 (02:17:10):
Ron, I'm sorry, there's a delay. What if none of us,
what if none of us owned a dog.

Speaker 8 (02:17:18):
From me?

Speaker 1 (02:17:20):
Well, my daughter owns a dog, so it must be
our dog here, all right, So this is Jeff. I
think it's it's two of them arguing there maybe.

Speaker 8 (02:17:35):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 10 (02:17:58):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 8 (02:18:12):
H m hmm yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
Well that was right outside our shelter.

Speaker 8 (02:19:00):
Oh my gosh, that had terrified.

Speaker 5 (02:19:01):
It's crazy. I just thought for a minute it was
a stand when he got his tax this year.

Speaker 1 (02:19:11):
Actually, according to language, it was a male and a female.

Speaker 5 (02:19:16):
That's absolutely insane. I could listen to that over and
over and over.

Speaker 8 (02:19:21):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:19:22):
It's just so there's so many highs and lows and
strange strangeness.

Speaker 1 (02:19:29):
Well, we don't know is the limit or how high
they can go with their local aptitude, not to do
with the.

Speaker 5 (02:19:36):
Range the ultra ultrasound.

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
Maybe, oh I'm sure they do. Yeah. In fact, the
doctor Curlin's or graphs shows where they went way above
our our range and below probably and below and below
also and in between. They can they can mimic anything,
according to what we're seeing from his report. They can
make any kind of sound they want. That's why you
gotta I'm running out.

Speaker 5 (02:20:01):
Somebody somebody had mentioned it sounded like that was a
Bob Cat got Bobcat Goldthwaite's entire stand up back. That
was just it's so insane. I just wish there was
something more we could do, you know, in the modern times,

(02:20:24):
because you've had Kurt Nell, You've had I'm not Kurt Nelson,
uh uh, Scott Nelson. You can think it was versa.
And I know Scott, he's a brilliant guy. I mean,
Scott is so beyond brilliant, and what he did with
your your your audio is absolutely incredible. But I've just

(02:20:47):
wished there was something new, like maybe even AI at
some point can do something.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
You know that's been brought up before. I mean, let
me miss a comment on that. A I only knows
what we have out different to know, right, and it
knows all the languages. However, this is an unknown language,
like Scott says, I brought this up. Scott, he got mad,
He said, how can anyone think that AI can determine
this because it's the language of its own that's not

(02:21:14):
out there in the public. It's not like it's a
Spanish or Persian or anything like that. So until it's known. Ay,
I won't know it unless, say I advances on into
better cogressants, a spectral analysis.

Speaker 5 (02:21:29):
Yeah, it could maybe still AID and yet AID and
pitch changes and I mean maybe be able to determine.
This is far too quick for any human to accomplish.
I mean, there may be something, but I'm just I'm
hoping that forensics in audio continue to get better. Right, Yeah,

(02:21:54):
I have a let me put it this one, Ron,
I think people will be studying your tapes fifty years
from now.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
There should know more about it between now and then.
I have something.

Speaker 5 (02:22:11):
I think they're going to still be studying the Patterson
film and they're going to be studying the.

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
They haven't gotten to the bottom of it. Yeah, the
bottom of it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:21):
The Patterson film has so much you have to tell us.
We've just barely skimmed the surface of what it can
tell us. And I think your sounds are the same way.
It's even possible someday AI, a future AI, not not
AI as we know it today, but may be able
to decode it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:39):
Even That's what I say. Once AI gets awareness, which
I think it will, like, it's going to dominate us.

Speaker 8 (02:22:50):
That's just.

Speaker 1 (02:22:54):
What they are is not human, but that's going to
be more vast, way more vast. They'll have their uh
consciousness involved the non biological body. How do you like
that one? That's why a lot of aliens are now.
I believe they have a consciousness, but they're not. They're

(02:23:16):
not healing like we are. They have a they don't
have a biological body. Uh that's just something. Uh never mind,
I'm getting tired.

Speaker 5 (02:23:29):
Yeah, yeah, let's just let's wrap it up and thank
you so much. Ron, And next time, I think, I
think for Christmas, I'm going to send you a phone stand. Yeah,
I know exactly what you get you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:42):
That's what I need. Thank you, that's exactly what I need.
I think.

Speaker 5 (02:23:46):
I think that's what you're going to get in the mail.

Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
I'm I'm I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (02:23:54):
I'm not joking. It'll be it'll be the cheapest, most
plastic one I can do.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
Now you're joking, I hope, yeah, I'm joking.

Speaker 5 (02:24:06):
Well it's joking anyhow. Stan, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (02:24:10):
Thanks.

Speaker 5 (02:24:11):
Yeah, we gotta get you. It just sounds like you've
got a whole world of stories.

Speaker 9 (02:24:15):
And Darryl, thank you first podcast, So thank you for
being Oh really awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
You sure the hell did better than me or Jeff did,
so you got us nailed anyhow, I think people really
enjoyed hearing from you guys. Thanks much. Just stand by
for one more second tier stand by right, stand.

Speaker 7 (02:24:38):
By, It's now time for Untold Radio Am Wisdom of
the Week. Always remember you don't beat stressed by thinking harder,
but by slowing your body down.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
First.

Speaker 7 (02:24:48):
One way to rid yourself of stress is to take
a breath, move and take up a hobby where you
work with your hands and make something real. It pulls
your mind out of tomorrow and puts it back where
you are in the moment. Good night, We hope to
see you all next week. If you like the show tonight,
please consider giving us a thumbs up, leaving a nice comment,

(02:25:09):
and most of all, subscribing and hitting the bell so
you will be notified when a new.

Speaker 1 (02:25:13):
Episode is dropping.

Speaker 8 (02:25:15):
Also, please share this episode. Now back to Doug and
Jeff for our rap.

Speaker 5 (02:25:23):
And we're all back. Thank you so much again, Darryl
kind to get you back on again for a one
on one and.

Speaker 1 (02:25:31):
Ron, thanks so much for having me. I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (02:25:35):
Yeah, we love you, Darryl.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
Make you saying Joel, I would have been at beach
Foot with you. Ron and Todd both invited me, but
I had some healthy issues going on at that time
and I couldn't make it. So anyway, thanks so much
for having me, and uh, it's always an honor and
pleasure to be here with you. Right, I'll see you tomorrow.
I brother, and I got on.

Speaker 5 (02:26:00):
I got one smart ass comment I want to leave
you both with, and that is your show. Two real
Crypti Legends podcasts have the two lowest voices in radio history.

Speaker 1 (02:26:16):
Is all right?

Speaker 4 (02:26:20):
They're giving Wolfman Jackie run.

Speaker 5 (02:26:21):
For you guys are damn You're damn both personic.

Speaker 1 (02:26:28):
Thank you, Doug. I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:31):
We love you a lot of fun, appreciate everything you do,
and thank god that you've been part of the whole
Bigfoot mystery, because without you there'd be a big hole,
you know, without your work.

Speaker 1 (02:26:45):
I remember the Monster Quest. I was on Monster Quest
with you years and years ago. That's when we met. Yeah,
traitor going around with.

Speaker 5 (02:26:53):
We were both kids.

Speaker 1 (02:26:56):
Yeah, we were both we're still kids, are we? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:26:59):
Exactly? I feel like one. Thanks so much, Stan. We'll
talk to you guys more soon. And thanks Jeff for all.

Speaker 8 (02:27:06):
That, did you want to play that little bonus after?

Speaker 5 (02:27:09):
No, No, that's for after the shoke.

Speaker 8 (02:27:14):
Okay, I'm mis understed. All right, Well, good night everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):
Okay, thank you, good night.

Speaker 8 (02:27:23):
Than case.

Speaker 11 (02:27:26):
I call you up in the middle of the night
and bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

Speaker 2 (02:27:34):
You give me comfort, say just give it some time.

Speaker 12 (02:27:37):
By the end of our talk and feeling just fine
you have will always though, will we be.

Speaker 1 (02:27:49):
The same?

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
No ordinary we got go in all. I'll pick you up,
and in our part we head on down the road
until we care for just you and the sun and
the wind. If we racious not all able, head on

(02:28:11):
home again. Everybody else can see when we been in
ordinary we can go in at the end of the
world together forever is one and our ray. If better

(02:28:34):
you should be in town in our prey. We never
compose a part in our way.

Speaker 11 (02:28:43):
For the time it would be together every day, but
it never would be less strained, and my way back
home till you gain.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
At the end of.

Speaker 11 (02:29:15):
The world together forever small our way, if ever.

Speaker 2 (02:29:21):
You should be endowed or comprate. They never compose a part.

Speaker 12 (02:29:26):
In lorway, but the end of the world together Forever
is hot in Norway igether.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
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part in the way we want a time.

Speaker 11 (02:29:46):
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be Australa.

Speaker 2 (02:29:54):
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Speaker 13 (02:29:58):
Are funny half man of these days. Take your back

(02:30:42):
against your wheel.

Speaker 12 (02:30:45):
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Speaker 14 (02:30:51):
Back breathing, different year, same sense show.

Speaker 2 (02:30:57):
Ready o goo.

Speaker 15 (02:30:58):
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to hear that song. Fingers crossed that he wouldn't be
long first slow day, first wrong kids, the first time
I ever heartbreak is.

Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
We didn't know much, but we knew little tune that
soundtrack cool.

Speaker 15 (02:31:17):
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Speaker 14 (02:32:01):
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Speaker 2 (02:32:04):
It'll be night drives and old way to beat.

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first Goodbye song on the feat just to survive.

Speaker 1 (02:32:15):
He me know nobody's felt this way.

Speaker 2 (02:32:18):
But we cried to different songs, different.

Speaker 5 (02:32:20):
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Speaker 16 (02:32:28):
If it beats, just a memory waited for you to press.
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Speaker 14 (02:32:59):
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Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
Still it's hard like it did before.

Speaker 12 (02:33:17):
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Speaker 2 (02:33:25):
Still makes you cry. The time moves off, but the
truth remains ever read.

Speaker 5 (02:33:33):
Haven't sing the same refrain.

Speaker 2 (02:33:36):
My generation, your generation.

Speaker 12 (02:33:41):
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their spees around

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