November 22, 2024 • 29 mins
USCHO Edge hosts Jim Connelly (@jimmyconnelly), Dan Rubin (@DanRubin12) and Ed Trefzger (@EdTrefzger) look at money lines and over/under for five games (plus our "pizza money" game) on November 22, 2024:
- St. Cloud State +100 @ Colorado College -130; over/under 5.5
- Minnesota State -140 @ Michigan Tech +110; o/u 5
- Michigan -220 @ Penn State +170; o/u 6.5
- Quinnipiac +100 @ Cornell -130; o/u 5.5
- Harvard +195 @ UMass -260; o/u 5.5
- Northeastern +340 @ Boston College -500; o/u 5.5
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to us Cho Edge for Friday, November twenty second,
twenty twenty four. I'm at Trevska alongside Jim Connelly and
Dan Rubin. Six games on our docket. We have money
lines this week. I hope you enjoyed last week when
we talked about futures, and we'll do that one or
two more times during the season. But some big games
coming up. We're going to start in the Western leagues
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and work our way eastward today. So the first one
on our list has Saint Cloud's State at Colorado College.
CC had its first blemishes on the record last weekend.
They are favored. They are minus one thirty. The Huskies
are plus one hundred. The over under on this one
is five point five.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think the fact that this game is in Colorado
Springs is probably the only differentiating fat between these two teams,
almost identical overall records. They both played well throughout this year.
I think this is a perfectly set line. You're basically
saying Colorado College deserves to be a slight favorite just
because they're at home.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The five and a half even is probably a pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Good over underline. I think if I had to bet
this one, I go see, see, they've been very good
at home this year, But I could see this one
going either way. This is one if I was a
gambler and was looking for games, I'd probably be avoiding
this one.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, I might dive headfirst into this one and say
to take Saint Cloud. And my reasoning behind it is
because you're getting a little bit more value on Saint
Cloud than you went on Colorado College with the plus
one hundred minimal. At that point, you're you don't have
to bet over ten bucks to make back double your money,
or bet over a hundred to make back double your money.
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Plus one hundred gives you the opportunity to at least
take some money off of it without.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Having to bet a certain amount.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And kind of a reasoning behind it is that the
blemish for me with CC came at a bad time
in a sense that they had to go to Lawson,
which is a tough place to play, and I understand
they're coming home, but it highlights the one concerns splash
question I had about Colorado College, which was what would
happen when they had to step up and step up
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in difficulty and they handled air Force, they handled Arizona State.
It was all stepping up from the opening rounds against
Anchorage and all that, but they went to Western Michigan.
They played well, but they maybe had to get a
bit of a reality check in there. So Saint Cloud
is a tough opponent to have to face the very
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next week after that, especially given what Saint Cloud has accomplished.
And I don't think necessarily the trip is going to
impact the team like Saint Cloud the way it would
somebody else. The one thing I would trend for is
if it is going to be Saint Cloud, I'd look
at the over on five and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't think this is going to stay under.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I don't think Saint Cloud is going to score less
than three in general when if they're going to win,
and I truly think that you can get two goals three.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Goals out of out of Colorado College.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So if that's the case, five and a half makes
it tougher to predict, because if I say a three
to two game, you're hitting under, I also think, and
then you're banking on the unguarded the What is the
line that Rear Admiral likes to say, the our Lady
of the unguarded gauge. You're praying for the empty net
goal and on spit chicklet's there. But I like, if
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it's Saint Cloud, you take the over. If it's Colorado College,
you take the under.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And my only problem with you over under on Saint
Cloud is the Huskies have only gone over five and
a half a couple of times this year. They add
a five to one loss in an exhibition game, so
let's throw that one out. Four to three win against
Bimigi's State, four to three win against Augustana, But every
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other game, even Boston College for one loss to to
one loss, Miami three two win overtime three one win, that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Still stays under.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And Colorado College, I know they can put the pocket
in the net a little bit. I don't see this
being a four to three game. I just don't, so
I guess that's why I like the under here.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Speaking of under, the lowest under we usually see these days,
it's five and that's the over under on Minnesota State
at Michigan Tech. In fact, it's even favoring the under
on the line. Minnesota State is minus one forty, Michigan
Tech is plus one ten. Jim, you were digging in
a little bit. Recent results, notwithstanding, the games between these
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two teams have typically been low scoring. Over the last
six seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They've played a four to three game in the playoffs
last year.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They played a four to two game in Houghton toward
the end of the regular season last year. Other than that,
you have to go back to twenty nineteen, the last
time these two teams combined for over five goals. That's
crazy now, recency bias, Yes, the last two times they
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played it was four three and four two.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Those are both over.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But you're talking about a span of I think thirteen
games where these two teams did not get over five
combined goals.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Was there a guy named Dryden McKay playing net at
Minnesota State during many of those games?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
There was, And was the defense as good as any
defense in the country in front of him for those games?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes it was. Is that a little different now?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's hard to say, But right now I get this
being a five. The book Bakers could have gone back
and just said, okay, let's look at the three most
recent results and will set the line.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
If that was the case, would probably be five and
a half or six.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But the AI generation has probably gone back and said,
what have we seen in the last five years?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And it's thirteen to two, shading the under what I did?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I guess I struggle to understand on how Ai and
everything sets this line is how it winds up being
with how it winds up being a Minnesota State favorite
minus one forty on the road at Michigan Tech. When
the teams are so similar once you start plugging in
the numbers, if you're looking head to head, they have
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virtually the same goals for right, their scoring offense is
I think a third of a goal difference, so negligible.
Let's talk about the amount of goals that they score
in the Mets, about thirty three percent in terms of
what they're adding to their offense scoring margin, About the
same scoring defense, about the same penalty kill, about the
same power play is the only thing that's really different.
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Michigan Tech is a twenty percent power play. It is
twenty spots over Minnesota State fifteen percent. And even when
I was looking at numbers on this one and I
thought we'd want to do this one, That's why I
was pulling up numbers beforehand. Even was instead of just
doing a flash check to go to correct my gut
is from a gut standpoint, I don't understand how the
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home team would be an underdog when the teams are
so evenly played. Maybe it's it comes down as straight
therom schedule, Maybe it comes down to something along those lines,
but that is Yeah, I talk about home dogs a lot.
It's a tough place to play, it's a really difficult
road trip. I just don't understand why Michigan Tech would
be an underdog. I would flip the lines and I
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would stay away from it instead plus one to ten
and taking Michigan Tech on those numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I didn't even give a pick on this one.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think I would probably go with the Michigan Tech
as well, just to the value, Like you said, home
underdog against a team that pretty much matches up with
them similar area. I expect even both of these teams
to be in that race for the top spot CCHA
come the end of the season. So this does become
a pretty big series right off that it's early. I
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shouldn't say right off the top. I forget we're two
months into the season at this point. But it's a
big series. So I think that I like your reasoning there, Dan,
they are so evenly matched it doesn't hurt us a
lot to just really focus on.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
The underdog here, being the home dog. We've got a
game in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Michigan, which had a bye week last week, is at
Penn State, and thennee Lyons dropped two to the visiting
Badgers the first game in overtime. So Penn State is
looking for points in the Big Ten and Michigan tan
rested and ready heading into State College Pa.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep, you just said it.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're rested, and I should give you the lines on
this one too. Michigan is minus two twenty, Penn State
is plus one seventy. The over under six and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, I think that the fact that Michigan's rested goes
a long way here. Maybe it shouldn't, but to me
it always does. It's one of those series that in
Penn State's looking for a get right game because they've
been playing really good hockey until they got into that
Wisconsin series last week, and I think we all saw
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Wisconsin started to come on. This is a tough one
thill for Penn State, even at home. I just think
that Michigan is the better team. I'd have a really
hard time betting against them even at minus two.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Twenty is the line that's one.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That you find a way to parley it with another
game and make a little bit of money on it.
But I can't in good conscience probably take Penn State here.
I just think that it should be a pretty heavy
favorite in terms of the over under.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're shading the under a little bit barely.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
At six and a half goals, So a three to
two game maybe, but I could see this as becoming
a six to three game easily.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think both of these teams have laws in their
own respective way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like I don't think Michigan's.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Power play is as strong as in my mind I
think it is, And at the same time, I don't
think Penn State's offense this year is maybe as strong
as I would like to think it is. So if
I'm lining this up, it becomes who can paper over
its law a bit better than anyone else, which is
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weird to say given the Penn State is one of
the best penalty kills in the country. So I don't
love taking necessarily a team in this game. I don't
love if I'm going to take Michigan. I don't like
taking Michigan on a standalone value because I don't see
the value in minus two twenty against an opponent that
I think could very easily go out and win that
game on Friday at home. So if I'm thinking Michigan,
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I'm honestly parlaying it with something to get some better
odds on it, and maybe parlaying it with another favorite
try and even out the odds, as opposed to using
an underdog to really yank the odds up on them.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So I'm not in that mind. And there are games
that we'll.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Get to where I maybe would pay Michigan with an
Eastern favorite in particular that we'll get to later on.
In terms of Penn State, I like the standalone value
at plus one seventy.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I just don't necessarily think they're gonna win the game.
But I do look the.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Value on plus one seventy at home in the get
right situation against a Michigan team that is still very good.
But I also don't necessarily think that it's always weird
on Fridays after Bie weeks and all the different factors
that go into everything seven two to one for Michigan's
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very good.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's not like we're.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Talking about I'm talking about Michigan, and I'm not like,
it's not like they're a five hundred hockey team. You
just made them seem like they have are on a
six game losing streak. I know, I still think that
they're flawed. Though I look at the I still think
that there's something there. There's something there I don't like.
I can't quite put my finger on it. I'm going
to pay dearly for that. But when you look at Michigan,
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you look at the games that they've won. On the surface,
some of these games should be incredible wins for them
at this point where they swept Boston University and won
it over time, Okay, I don't think b u's as
good as as I want BU to b At this point,
they split with Say Cloud, We've proven that Say Cloud's
pretty good. You look at they split with Minnesota State,
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but it was beginning of the season. So they even
though they're seven too and one, the sweeps that they've
had Arizona State, it just doesn't quite line up for
me that seven two and one Michigan is as good
as the next phase in front of them. So I
think this is going to be a good opportunity for it,
and I look forward to paying dearly when they go
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out and win the first game by seven.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But the series that I look out on Michigan schedule,
I know you're not supposed to look ahead next weekend
they played Western twice.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's one that I really am interested in.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, that will take a break, come back and look
at three Eastern games. When usccho edge continues, We're back
with usccho edge. Quinnipiac is at Cornell. Quinnipiac underachieving right now.
By the record, Cornell started out great with a home
sweep against North Dakota, but some bumps in the road
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tie last weekend with Harvard and a loss to Dartmouth.
They did get the shootout win at Harvard, so Cornell
came home with two points, but it seems like both
teams right now wanting to heal themselves a little bit.
Five and a half is the over under shading to
the under. Quinnipiac is the slight underdog at plus one hundred,
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Cornell a minus one thirty a home iice advantage at
line of the difference, I would guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
One goes back to the first series we talked about
here with college player. That's the favorites, and I think
that's really the only reason Cornell is a favorite here.
Both teams, I think the results to date match them
pretty evenly. I think that we look at Cornipiac, they
got things back on track last weekend, they were at home.
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Now it's Cornell going home after the road weekend at
Dartmouth and at Harvard where they came away with just
a tie and a shootout win. I look at getting
home could be a big advantage for Cornell.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's why I like the big red at home here. Yeah,
I do too.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
My problem with Quinnipiac in general right now, and this
was something that I'm looking forward to getting into when
I get a chance to sit down with Ram Pecknold
in the next month or so. It's one of those
things where I look at the record and maybe in
a month from now won't be the case. But when
you look at the stretch of hockey that the team
just played, they are getting themselves out of a funk
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that who was expected to a degree at some point
about Quinnipiac. But getting out of the funk required a
road trip to Brown and Yale, who are two teams
that if Quinnipiac had lost those games, there would have
been a three alarmed fire for the Bobcats.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And that's no disrespect to Brown and Yaloe.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's just that they finished at the bottom of the
league and Quinnipiac finished the top of the league last year.
So Quinnipiac at this point needs this game a bit
more to jump back into the season. But I just
don't see it right now because Cornell, even when you
look at what Cornell did against Dartmouth, and even when
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you look at what Cornell is as a hockey team
having only played a few games but picking up the
shootout win against Harvard, I really do look at this
Cornell team and see a team that is just going
to be a megallyth for this entire year, and it's
going to have a Ticcups. But this is a megolyth
in Eca. So I like Cornell in this game. I
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like Cornell. I'll even go so far as to say
next week where if puy Quinnipia could get at Madison
Square Garden, And I don't think there.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Is any smart money or smart better that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Would look at corner out right now it bet against
Cornell in any situation they're gonna lose games, but I
would bet it gets it to happen in.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That MSG game. By the way, that will be a
non conference game. Yes, i'd be easy standings. Let's turn
to Harvard at U Mass.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Harvard the loss to Colegate and the tie with Cornell
last week and a nice win at Providence on Saturday
for U Mass five to one, But the men and
men have not strung together two wins in a row
all season, and now on that one the numbers, Harvard
is the underdog at plus one ninety five. U Mass
is a minus two sixty five and a half is
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the over under just put together.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The more concerning points for for U Mass the fat
that they have not won consecutive games this season. They
they had a win to tie back to back, but
when they've done that a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But yeah, I have concerns.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I did really like the fact that they were able
to on the road lost Saturday, and I get that
five to one winn of Providence, a place that and
not a lot of teams have been winning.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So they did something that that caught my attention.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Does that catch my attention enough that I think that
they can dominate at home over Harvard.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't know. This is one.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't have a good feel for how good Harvard
is right now. They beat Twinnipiac, they tie Cornell. Those
are the kind of the games that I want to
measure them against. I just and if that's the case,
that I should be saying, Yeah, Harvard, they're they're good,
They're fine, They're going to be They're going to be
a very good team when all is said and done.
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And also look at other games like the loss to Colgate.
I'm not sure if that's a quality loss. I think
we're all learning the loss to Dartmouth was a quality loss.
That's but that's the extent of their schedule right now.
They've only played They had a two two tie in
exhibition game against THEU and they beat the US national
team development program and exhibition game five two. I can't
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use those results in make any type of judgment. So
a two two and one record right now for Harvard,
I just don't know where they are. That's my biggest question.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I know where you math. They are coming in off
of a good win.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
That's all I can tell you really about the two
teams though, Because I U Mass has been inconsistent, and
I don't have a big enough sample size to understand
where Harvard is.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Who scores more points this weekend.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
U Mass hockey or U Mass football down at Georgia,
probably possibly hockey, probably hockey, probably hockey. I'm going with, Look,
I'm taking Harvard here, and I'm not just saying that
because I cover Eciac and the reason why I'm taking hard.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Plus one ninety five.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I think that's incredible value on a team that is
only playing one game this weekend. And I know U
Mass does have to come back on Sunday. They get
the break, they come back on Sunday against Vermont. It's
it's not the same as playing Friday Saturday back to back.
But Harvard, to me, playing Friday night at the Mullins
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Center before they head to Belfast, to me, is one
of those things that that gives Harvard a bit of
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And part of the reason is we also don't know
what to make of Harvard.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But I will say, looking even at the results, they
have played well for Spurts and have played well on
the road, and when you look at the record, they've
won games those wins.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
The two wins was a sweep win at Princeton and Quinnipiac.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Which is the which is a brutal road trip in
ecac particularly if you have to start going to New
Jersey and then come back and play Quinnipiac. Historically, you're
a little more beat up when you to come back
and play the quote better of the two teams as
opposed to what Dartmouth did, which was the longer road
trip just makes for a longer ride home on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
For Dartmouth.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Theft to go back from Princeton. So the fact that
they took Cornell to a shootout, the fact that they
got through that weekend between Princeton and Quinnipiac, to me,
just gives them a bit more right now against the
team that frankly has not played well at home and
Harvard has played well on the road, U Mass has
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not played well at home.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You combine all of that, I will say the over
under for this.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Makes me a little leary with five and a Half's
part of me that really wants to go over, but
I'm not sure if we'll get there for two to
two game. I'm not sure we're going to get there
with the shootout, but I don't love that number. So
I would stay away from that, but I like Harvard here.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think that this might be the most skewed it's off.
I think that you Mass should be a face it certainly,
but to be minus two sixty that seems extreme. So
I agree with you that I could not bet you
mass do. I like you Mass here probably a little bit.
I know you talked about the home road splits and
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stuff like that. I get that, but right now, I
just I think that UMass probably is starting to fail themselves.
Five goals last week, that's a big help with their team.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
By the way, Georgia was forty two and a half
point favorite, so I'd still consider taking that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
One other thing, Harvard, unlike another team going to Belfest,
doesn't have to worry about shamrocks, leprechauns, or green colors
offending the native population, so they don't have that hanging
over their head.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Listen, as two guys who are living in Boston, we're
not touching that all at the time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Football got it all and our pizza money game. And
this is no reflection on the teams. It's a case
of when the odds are so stacked in one direction
that it seems like one that you could throw some
money at and make a little money. Northeast Stern is
at BC. Northeastern is a plus three forty, Boston College
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is minus five hundred, and the over under on this
one is five point five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, this is a result of a lot of money
coming in all season already on DC. That's the only
reason I can see them pumping this line, but to
a point that it makes it almost unbentable. Nobody's going
to want to touch Boston College minus five hundred. Do
I go pizza money here and potentially throw something twenty
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dollars on Northeastern would make sixty eight plus twenty back
eighty eight dollars turn twenty into eighty eight if Northeastern
would to pull off the upset when Yeah, I don't
even I'd like pizza too much, but to have it
for lunch like, that's how much I'd much rather have
the pizza then try to throw it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Maybe throw that money right.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Northeastern there's still looking for their first hockey's when they've
struggled a little bit. I had them, I had the
call on Friday night when they played New Hampshire. Did
some things well, but at the end they still didn't
have the right results.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
BC.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They're finding ways to win games three third period comebacks already,
including Tuesday night against Providence on the road. That game's
on ESPN U. It's a great finish in that one.
I think, could I see a twenty dollars bet on Northeastern?
I guess if you don't, If you don't want to
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eat pizza this week, you just want to throw twenty
dollars down. Not the worst point to place to put it.
I know, Dan, you're going to come in, and you're
going to come in guns of blazing on Northeastern. Here.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I just.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I think I like my pizza. I'd rather have my
pizza this week.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yes, I am coming in, but I'm coming in based
on the odds, and I don't think this is as
much of a mismatch as people want to want to
perceive it. Right Northeastern is not playing well right now,
and they're not playing hockey per se at the start
first start of the season. But BC, there is a
concern in here, which is as much as the overtime
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winner as the late third period comebacks.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's exciting.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It makes for great copy, trust me, I know it
makes for great copy based on what I've been able
to host it and talk about with people over the
last couple of weeks. I still think there is now
an area of concern for me, which is eventually somebody's
not going to let that come back happen. And they
did lose to Connecticut, Okay, there it was back and forth.
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There was some drama in that game. But Northeastern just
feels like a team that for the past three to
four years has always played BC top.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I understand BC is not over that whole stretch, the
post COVID stretch.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
There were a couple of years where it wasn't quote
BC like not as we know it as the number
one and number two team in the country. But if
you go back to post COVID, BC lost at the
Garden in twenty twenty two, lost at Home in twenty two,
a end of a home and home after they won
at Matthews, lost in a shootout in October at Matthews,
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lost in a shootout at Matthews.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
There are times that they have struggled to beat Northeastern.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Now, I understand Northeastern Bean Pop champions Devin Levi over
that history a team that was very good, But to me,
it's just one of those matchups that makes me a
little bit leery that BC could run into a bit kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
And the reason why I'm also saying that is.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Then when you look at the odds, which is plus
three forty and to me, the fact that that makes
it a juicy pizza bet, which is that you're going
to get so much value on a Northeastern team that
is going to see Boston College a lot and knows
how to play against them and knows what to expect.
If BC, which has needed some late game heroics, I
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don't like going to that. I'd rather see if BC
had maybe won one of these games, a full weekend
of games where they just be to team up for
two games. That has not happened, and so first game
maybe I like Northeastern a little bit. With the odds,
we'll say I do the under here five and a half.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I like the under here. I don't.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I think this could be one of those three to
one three two games, and I think at the upper
limit it's going to be three two because they just
don't score a lot against each other.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They haven't got over five since one of those shootout games.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that, I
still think this game could get up there in goals.
BC's finding ways to score against teams that are not
top ten teams in the country. They have they been challenged. Yes,
did Western Michigan give them a game, yes? Did Main
give them two games?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yes? Did Providence give them everything? Yes? But he'll look
at the game against Yukon.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When and I know that game is a little strange
because by the end both teams backup goaltenders were in
the game because of any injury and ejection. I get that,
but I just think that when BC plays is a
team that they if they can smell some blood in
the water, BC can absolutely pounce. That is what makes
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them the most dangerous in this situation. That's why I
don't think I would touch the over under. But and
it's also why I wouldn't touch Northeastern. I just think
that when BC is supposed to win, it is supposed
to win a game. And let's say to the Yukon
game out there was a botion, there was a lot
of stuff that was going into that, and they were
on the road. They've been excellent at home, b C.
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Don't forget about that. They haven't lost yet at CONTI
that is what just makes this a little bit too risky,
a p Revett even pizza money here.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
What I guess is going to be really interesting for
me out of Northeastern is to see how Northeastern plays
in front of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I know, it's Friday before.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Thanksgiving week, which normally means that students may head home
early if you only have a couple of classes at
the early part of the week, whatever it is. But
BC has routinely sold out that building this year, and
that building went it is sold out. Is one of
the premiere focky venues I think in the country, let
alone college hockey.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think that's a tremendous place where the crowd's going nuts.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So how Northeastern handles that, especially in the year where
in Northeastern as I've played in front of seventy eight
hundred people, unless the bill think is coming down, I
think that it's going to be a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Environment, for a really challenging environment.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I think the odds are what make me say go
with Northeastern, Go in Northeastern, because it's our pizza bet
in terms of who I think will win. If you
were just talking to me straight up. Then obviously there's
a reason why BC's the favorite. But since we're talking
about the value and we're talking about the bet, I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Hey, look, you don't want a pizza this weekend. You're
not worried about it. That is the game.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
That's the one to go with. That's the bet death.
I think, get more pizza. If I'm right, it's five pieces.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
If you're right, maybe maybe you just make it a
plan cheese pizza weekend. Skip the pepperoni, sausage, bacon, peppers, onions, olives,
and anchovies.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Roasted garlic. Gotta go roasted garlic on the pizza. It's
like you must have for me.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Okay, So I had a buck and a half of
topping times eight, take twelve bucks off and then throw
ten on the game. I don't know what pizza costs
in Boston. It probably costs a lot more than it
does around here.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It does it does.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
It's seventeen dollars for not great pizza around my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I'm moving twenty four dollar pizzas over here.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's why I say twenty When you said making a cheese,
I'm like, that's what a cheese is.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Around you at twenty bucks.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh my goodness, I guess I'm spoiled. Then we'll wrap
it up for Jim Connolly, for Dan Rubin. I'm ed
Trepscrew and this has been usc cho edge
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to us Cho Edge for Friday, November twenty second,
twenty twenty four. I'm at Trevska alongside Jim Connelly and
Dan Rubin. Six games on our docket. We have money
lines this week. I hope you enjoyed last week when
we talked about futures, and we'll do that one or
two more times during the season. But some big games
coming up. We're going to start in the Western leagues
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and work our way eastward today. So the first one
on our list has Saint Cloud's State at Colorado College.
CC had its first blemishes on the record last weekend.
They are favored. They are minus one thirty. The Huskies
are plus one hundred. The over under on this one
is five point five.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think the fact that this game is in Colorado
Springs is probably the only differentiating fat between these two teams,
almost identical overall records. They both played well throughout this year.
I think this is a perfectly set line. You're basically
saying Colorado College deserves to be a slight favorite just
because they're at home.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The five and a half even is probably a pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Good over underline. I think if I had to bet
this one, I go see, see, they've been very good
at home this year, But I could see this one
going either way. This is one if I was a
gambler and was looking for games, I'd probably be avoiding
this one.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, I might dive headfirst into this one and say
to take Saint Cloud. And my reasoning behind it is
because you're getting a little bit more value on Saint
Cloud than you went on Colorado College with the plus
one hundred minimal. At that point, you're you don't have
to bet over ten bucks to make back double your money,
or bet over a hundred to make back double your money.
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Plus one hundred gives you the opportunity to at least
take some money off of it without.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Having to bet a certain amount.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And kind of a reasoning behind it is that the
blemish for me with CC came at a bad time
in a sense that they had to go to Lawson,
which is a tough place to play, and I understand
they're coming home, but it highlights the one concerns splash
question I had about Colorado College, which was what would
happen when they had to step up and step up
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in difficulty and they handled air Force, they handled Arizona State.
It was all stepping up from the opening rounds against
Anchorage and all that, but they went to Western Michigan.
They played well, but they maybe had to get a
bit of a reality check in there. So Saint Cloud
is a tough opponent to have to face the very
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next week after that, especially given what Saint Cloud has accomplished.
And I don't think necessarily the trip is going to
impact the team like Saint Cloud the way it would
somebody else. The one thing I would trend for is
if it is going to be Saint Cloud, I'd look
at the over on five and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't think this is going to stay under.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I don't think Saint Cloud is going to score less
than three in general when if they're going to win,
and I truly think that you can get two goals three.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Goals out of out of Colorado College.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So if that's the case, five and a half makes
it tougher to predict, because if I say a three
to two game, you're hitting under, I also think, and
then you're banking on the unguarded the What is the
line that Rear Admiral likes to say, the our Lady
of the unguarded gauge. You're praying for the empty net
goal and on spit chicklet's there. But I like, if
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it's Saint Cloud, you take the over. If it's Colorado College,
you take the under.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And my only problem with you over under on Saint
Cloud is the Huskies have only gone over five and
a half a couple of times this year. They add
a five to one loss in an exhibition game, so
let's throw that one out. Four to three win against
Bimigi's State, four to three win against Augustana, But every
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other game, even Boston College for one loss to to
one loss, Miami three two win overtime three one win, that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Still stays under.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And Colorado College, I know they can put the pocket
in the net a little bit. I don't see this
being a four to three game. I just don't, so
I guess that's why I like the under here.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Speaking of under, the lowest under we usually see these days,
it's five and that's the over under on Minnesota State
at Michigan Tech. In fact, it's even favoring the under
on the line. Minnesota State is minus one forty, Michigan
Tech is plus one ten. Jim, you were digging in
a little bit. Recent results, notwithstanding, the games between these
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two teams have typically been low scoring. Over the last
six seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They've played a four to three game in the playoffs
last year.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They played a four to two game in Houghton toward
the end of the regular season last year. Other than that,
you have to go back to twenty nineteen, the last
time these two teams combined for over five goals. That's
crazy now, recency bias, Yes, the last two times they
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played it was four three and four two.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Those are both over.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But you're talking about a span of I think thirteen
games where these two teams did not get over five
combined goals.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Was there a guy named Dryden McKay playing net at
Minnesota State during many of those games?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
There was, And was the defense as good as any
defense in the country in front of him for those games?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes it was. Is that a little different now?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's hard to say, But right now I get this
being a five. The book Bakers could have gone back
and just said, okay, let's look at the three most
recent results and will set the line.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
If that was the case, would probably be five and
a half or six.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But the AI generation has probably gone back and said,
what have we seen in the last five years?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And it's thirteen to two, shading the under what I did?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I guess I struggle to understand on how Ai and
everything sets this line is how it winds up being
with how it winds up being a Minnesota State favorite
minus one forty on the road at Michigan Tech. When
the teams are so similar once you start plugging in
the numbers, if you're looking head to head, they have
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virtually the same goals for right, their scoring offense is
I think a third of a goal difference, so negligible.
Let's talk about the amount of goals that they score
in the Mets, about thirty three percent in terms of
what they're adding to their offense scoring margin, About the
same scoring defense, about the same penalty kill, about the
same power play is the only thing that's really different.
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Michigan Tech is a twenty percent power play. It is
twenty spots over Minnesota State fifteen percent. And even when
I was looking at numbers on this one and I
thought we'd want to do this one, That's why I
was pulling up numbers beforehand. Even was instead of just
doing a flash check to go to correct my gut
is from a gut standpoint, I don't understand how the
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home team would be an underdog when the teams are
so evenly played. Maybe it's it comes down as straight
therom schedule, Maybe it comes down to something along those lines,
but that is Yeah, I talk about home dogs a lot.
It's a tough place to play, it's a really difficult
road trip. I just don't understand why Michigan Tech would
be an underdog. I would flip the lines and I
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would stay away from it instead plus one to ten
and taking Michigan Tech on those numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I didn't even give a pick on this one.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think I would probably go with the Michigan Tech
as well, just to the value, Like you said, home
underdog against a team that pretty much matches up with
them similar area. I expect even both of these teams
to be in that race for the top spot CCHA
come the end of the season. So this does become
a pretty big series right off that it's early. I
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shouldn't say right off the top. I forget we're two
months into the season at this point. But it's a
big series. So I think that I like your reasoning there, Dan,
they are so evenly matched it doesn't hurt us a
lot to just really focus on.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
The underdog here, being the home dog. We've got a
game in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Michigan, which had a bye week last week, is at
Penn State, and thennee Lyons dropped two to the visiting
Badgers the first game in overtime. So Penn State is
looking for points in the Big Ten and Michigan tan
rested and ready heading into State College Pa.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep, you just said it.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
They're rested, and I should give you the lines on
this one too. Michigan is minus two twenty, Penn State
is plus one seventy. The over under six and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, I think that the fact that Michigan's rested goes
a long way here. Maybe it shouldn't, but to me
it always does. It's one of those series that in
Penn State's looking for a get right game because they've
been playing really good hockey until they got into that
Wisconsin series last week, and I think we all saw
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Wisconsin started to come on. This is a tough one
thill for Penn State, even at home. I just think
that Michigan is the better team. I'd have a really
hard time betting against them even at minus two.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Twenty is the line that's one.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That you find a way to parley it with another
game and make a little bit of money on it.
But I can't in good conscience probably take Penn State here.
I just think that it should be a pretty heavy
favorite in terms of the over under.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're shading the under a little bit barely.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
At six and a half goals, So a three to
two game maybe, but I could see this as becoming
a six to three game easily.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think both of these teams have laws in their
own respective way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like I don't think Michigan's.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Power play is as strong as in my mind I
think it is, And at the same time, I don't
think Penn State's offense this year is maybe as strong
as I would like to think it is. So if
I'm lining this up, it becomes who can paper over
its law a bit better than anyone else, which is
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weird to say given the Penn State is one of
the best penalty kills in the country. So I don't
love taking necessarily a team in this game. I don't
love if I'm going to take Michigan. I don't like
taking Michigan on a standalone value because I don't see
the value in minus two twenty against an opponent that
I think could very easily go out and win that
game on Friday at home. So if I'm thinking Michigan,
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I'm honestly parlaying it with something to get some better
odds on it, and maybe parlaying it with another favorite
try and even out the odds, as opposed to using
an underdog to really yank the odds up on them.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So I'm not in that mind. And there are games
that we'll.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Get to where I maybe would pay Michigan with an
Eastern favorite in particular that we'll get to later on.
In terms of Penn State, I like the standalone value
at plus one seventy.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I just don't necessarily think they're gonna win the game.
But I do look the.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Value on plus one seventy at home in the get
right situation against a Michigan team that is still very good.
But I also don't necessarily think that it's always weird
on Fridays after Bie weeks and all the different factors
that go into everything seven two to one for Michigan's
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very good.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's not like we're.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Talking about I'm talking about Michigan, and I'm not like,
it's not like they're a five hundred hockey team. You
just made them seem like they have are on a
six game losing streak. I know, I still think that
they're flawed. Though I look at the I still think
that there's something there. There's something there I don't like.
I can't quite put my finger on it. I'm going
to pay dearly for that. But when you look at Michigan,
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you look at the games that they've won. On the surface,
some of these games should be incredible wins for them
at this point where they swept Boston University and won
it over time, Okay, I don't think b u's as
good as as I want BU to b At this point,
they split with Say Cloud, We've proven that Say Cloud's
pretty good. You look at they split with Minnesota State,
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but it was beginning of the season. So they even
though they're seven too and one, the sweeps that they've
had Arizona State, it just doesn't quite line up for
me that seven two and one Michigan is as good
as the next phase in front of them. So I
think this is going to be a good opportunity for it,
and I look forward to paying dearly when they go
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out and win the first game by seven.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But the series that I look out on Michigan schedule,
I know you're not supposed to look ahead next weekend
they played Western twice.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's one that I really am interested in.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, that will take a break, come back and look
at three Eastern games. When usccho edge continues, We're back
with usccho edge. Quinnipiac is at Cornell. Quinnipiac underachieving right now.
By the record, Cornell started out great with a home
sweep against North Dakota, but some bumps in the road
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tie last weekend with Harvard and a loss to Dartmouth.
They did get the shootout win at Harvard, so Cornell
came home with two points, but it seems like both
teams right now wanting to heal themselves a little bit.
Five and a half is the over under shading to
the under. Quinnipiac is the slight underdog at plus one hundred,
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Cornell a minus one thirty a home iice advantage at
line of the difference, I would guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
One goes back to the first series we talked about
here with college player. That's the favorites, and I think
that's really the only reason Cornell is a favorite here.
Both teams, I think the results to date match them
pretty evenly. I think that we look at Cornipiac, they
got things back on track last weekend, they were at home.
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Now it's Cornell going home after the road weekend at
Dartmouth and at Harvard where they came away with just
a tie and a shootout win. I look at getting
home could be a big advantage for Cornell.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's why I like the big red at home here. Yeah,
I do too.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
My problem with Quinnipiac in general right now, and this
was something that I'm looking forward to getting into when
I get a chance to sit down with Ram Pecknold
in the next month or so. It's one of those
things where I look at the record and maybe in
a month from now won't be the case. But when
you look at the stretch of hockey that the team
just played, they are getting themselves out of a funk
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that who was expected to a degree at some point
about Quinnipiac. But getting out of the funk required a
road trip to Brown and Yale, who are two teams
that if Quinnipiac had lost those games, there would have
been a three alarmed fire for the Bobcats.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And that's no disrespect to Brown and Yaloe.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's just that they finished at the bottom of the
league and Quinnipiac finished the top of the league last year.
So Quinnipiac at this point needs this game a bit
more to jump back into the season. But I just
don't see it right now because Cornell, even when you
look at what Cornell did against Dartmouth, and even when
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you look at what Cornell is as a hockey team
having only played a few games but picking up the
shootout win against Harvard, I really do look at this
Cornell team and see a team that is just going
to be a megallyth for this entire year, and it's
going to have a Ticcups. But this is a megolyth
in Eca. So I like Cornell in this game. I
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like Cornell. I'll even go so far as to say
next week where if puy Quinnipia could get at Madison
Square Garden, And I don't think there.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Is any smart money or smart better that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Would look at corner out right now it bet against
Cornell in any situation they're gonna lose games, but I
would bet it gets it to happen in.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That MSG game. By the way, that will be a
non conference game. Yes, i'd be easy standings. Let's turn
to Harvard at U Mass.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Harvard the loss to Colegate and the tie with Cornell
last week and a nice win at Providence on Saturday
for U Mass five to one, But the men and
men have not strung together two wins in a row
all season, and now on that one the numbers, Harvard
is the underdog at plus one ninety five. U Mass
is a minus two sixty five and a half is
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the over under just put together.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The more concerning points for for U Mass the fat
that they have not won consecutive games this season. They
they had a win to tie back to back, but
when they've done that a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But yeah, I have concerns.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I did really like the fact that they were able
to on the road lost Saturday, and I get that
five to one winn of Providence, a place that and
not a lot of teams have been winning.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So they did something that that caught my attention.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Does that catch my attention enough that I think that
they can dominate at home over Harvard.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't know. This is one.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't have a good feel for how good Harvard
is right now. They beat Twinnipiac, they tie Cornell. Those
are the kind of the games that I want to
measure them against. I just and if that's the case,
that I should be saying, Yeah, Harvard, they're they're good,
They're fine, They're going to be They're going to be
a very good team when all is said and done.
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And also look at other games like the loss to Colgate.
I'm not sure if that's a quality loss. I think
we're all learning the loss to Dartmouth was a quality loss.
That's but that's the extent of their schedule right now.
They've only played They had a two two tie in
exhibition game against THEU and they beat the US national
team development program and exhibition game five two. I can't
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use those results in make any type of judgment. So
a two two and one record right now for Harvard,
I just don't know where they are. That's my biggest question.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I know where you math. They are coming in off
of a good win.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
That's all I can tell you really about the two
teams though, Because I U Mass has been inconsistent, and
I don't have a big enough sample size to understand
where Harvard is.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Who scores more points this weekend.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
U Mass hockey or U Mass football down at Georgia,
probably possibly hockey, probably hockey, probably hockey. I'm going with, Look,
I'm taking Harvard here, and I'm not just saying that
because I cover Eciac and the reason why I'm taking hard.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Plus one ninety five.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I think that's incredible value on a team that is
only playing one game this weekend. And I know U
Mass does have to come back on Sunday. They get
the break, they come back on Sunday against Vermont. It's
it's not the same as playing Friday Saturday back to back.
But Harvard, to me, playing Friday night at the Mullins
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Center before they head to Belfast, to me, is one
of those things that that gives Harvard a bit of
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And part of the reason is we also don't know
what to make of Harvard.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But I will say, looking even at the results, they
have played well for Spurts and have played well on
the road, and when you look at the record, they've
won games those wins.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
The two wins was a sweep win at Princeton and Quinnipiac.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Which is the which is a brutal road trip in
ecac particularly if you have to start going to New
Jersey and then come back and play Quinnipiac. Historically, you're
a little more beat up when you to come back
and play the quote better of the two teams as
opposed to what Dartmouth did, which was the longer road
trip just makes for a longer ride home on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
For Dartmouth.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Theft to go back from Princeton. So the fact that
they took Cornell to a shootout, the fact that they
got through that weekend between Princeton and Quinnipiac, to me,
just gives them a bit more right now against the
team that frankly has not played well at home and
Harvard has played well on the road, U Mass has
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not played well at home.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You combine all of that, I will say the over
under for this.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Makes me a little leary with five and a Half's
part of me that really wants to go over, but
I'm not sure if we'll get there for two to
two game. I'm not sure we're going to get there
with the shootout, but I don't love that number. So
I would stay away from that, but I like Harvard here.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think that this might be the most skewed it's off.
I think that you Mass should be a face it certainly,
but to be minus two sixty that seems extreme. So
I agree with you that I could not bet you
mass do. I like you Mass here probably a little bit.
I know you talked about the home road splits and
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stuff like that. I get that, but right now, I
just I think that UMass probably is starting to fail themselves.
Five goals last week, that's a big help with their team.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
By the way, Georgia was forty two and a half
point favorite, so I'd still consider taking that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
One other thing, Harvard, unlike another team going to Belfest,
doesn't have to worry about shamrocks, leprechauns, or green colors
offending the native population, so they don't have that hanging
over their head.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Listen, as two guys who are living in Boston, we're
not touching that all at the time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Football got it all and our pizza money game. And
this is no reflection on the teams. It's a case
of when the odds are so stacked in one direction
that it seems like one that you could throw some
money at and make a little money. Northeast Stern is
at BC. Northeastern is a plus three forty, Boston College
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is minus five hundred, and the over under on this
one is five point five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, this is a result of a lot of money
coming in all season already on DC. That's the only
reason I can see them pumping this line, but to
a point that it makes it almost unbentable. Nobody's going
to want to touch Boston College minus five hundred. Do
I go pizza money here and potentially throw something twenty
(22:34):
dollars on Northeastern would make sixty eight plus twenty back
eighty eight dollars turn twenty into eighty eight if Northeastern
would to pull off the upset when Yeah, I don't
even I'd like pizza too much, but to have it
for lunch like, that's how much I'd much rather have
the pizza then try to throw it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Maybe throw that money right.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Northeastern there's still looking for their first hockey's when they've
struggled a little bit. I had them, I had the
call on Friday night when they played New Hampshire. Did
some things well, but at the end they still didn't
have the right results.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
BC.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They're finding ways to win games three third period comebacks already,
including Tuesday night against Providence on the road. That game's
on ESPN U. It's a great finish in that one.
I think, could I see a twenty dollars bet on Northeastern?
I guess if you don't, If you don't want to
(23:29):
eat pizza this week, you just want to throw twenty
dollars down. Not the worst point to place to put it.
I know, Dan, you're going to come in, and you're
going to come in guns of blazing on Northeastern. Here.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I just.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I think I like my pizza. I'd rather have my
pizza this week.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yes, I am coming in, but I'm coming in based
on the odds, and I don't think this is as
much of a mismatch as people want to want to
perceive it. Right Northeastern is not playing well right now,
and they're not playing hockey per se at the start
first start of the season. But BC, there is a
concern in here, which is as much as the overtime
(24:06):
winner as the late third period comebacks.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's exciting.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It makes for great copy, trust me, I know it
makes for great copy based on what I've been able
to host it and talk about with people over the
last couple of weeks. I still think there is now
an area of concern for me, which is eventually somebody's
not going to let that come back happen. And they
did lose to Connecticut, Okay, there it was back and forth.
(24:31):
There was some drama in that game. But Northeastern just
feels like a team that for the past three to
four years has always played BC top.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I understand BC is not over that whole stretch, the
post COVID stretch.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
There were a couple of years where it wasn't quote
BC like not as we know it as the number
one and number two team in the country. But if
you go back to post COVID, BC lost at the
Garden in twenty twenty two, lost at Home in twenty two,
a end of a home and home after they won
at Matthews, lost in a shootout in October at Matthews,
(25:06):
lost in a shootout at Matthews.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
There are times that they have struggled to beat Northeastern.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Now, I understand Northeastern Bean Pop champions Devin Levi over
that history a team that was very good, But to me,
it's just one of those matchups that makes me a
little bit leery that BC could run into a bit kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
And the reason why I'm also saying that is.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Then when you look at the odds, which is plus
three forty and to me, the fact that that makes
it a juicy pizza bet, which is that you're going
to get so much value on a Northeastern team that
is going to see Boston College a lot and knows
how to play against them and knows what to expect.
If BC, which has needed some late game heroics, I
(25:52):
don't like going to that. I'd rather see if BC
had maybe won one of these games, a full weekend
of games where they just be to team up for
two games. That has not happened, and so first game
maybe I like Northeastern a little bit. With the odds,
we'll say I do the under here five and a half.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I like the under here. I don't.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I think this could be one of those three to
one three two games, and I think at the upper
limit it's going to be three two because they just
don't score a lot against each other.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They haven't got over five since one of those shootout games.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that, I
still think this game could get up there in goals.
BC's finding ways to score against teams that are not
top ten teams in the country. They have they been challenged. Yes,
did Western Michigan give them a game, yes? Did Main
give them two games?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yes? Did Providence give them everything? Yes? But he'll look
at the game against Yukon.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When and I know that game is a little strange
because by the end both teams backup goaltenders were in
the game because of any injury and ejection. I get that,
but I just think that when BC plays is a
team that they if they can smell some blood in
the water, BC can absolutely pounce. That is what makes
(27:07):
them the most dangerous in this situation. That's why I
don't think I would touch the over under. But and
it's also why I wouldn't touch Northeastern. I just think
that when BC is supposed to win, it is supposed
to win a game. And let's say to the Yukon
game out there was a botion, there was a lot
of stuff that was going into that, and they were
on the road. They've been excellent at home, b C.
(27:28):
Don't forget about that. They haven't lost yet at CONTI
that is what just makes this a little bit too risky,
a p Revett even pizza money here.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
What I guess is going to be really interesting for
me out of Northeastern is to see how Northeastern plays
in front of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I know, it's Friday before.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Thanksgiving week, which normally means that students may head home
early if you only have a couple of classes at
the early part of the week, whatever it is. But
BC has routinely sold out that building this year, and
that building went it is sold out. Is one of
the premiere focky venues I think in the country, let
alone college hockey.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think that's a tremendous place where the crowd's going nuts.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So how Northeastern handles that, especially in the year where
in Northeastern as I've played in front of seventy eight
hundred people, unless the bill think is coming down, I
think that it's going to be a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Environment, for a really challenging environment.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I think the odds are what make me say go
with Northeastern, Go in Northeastern, because it's our pizza bet
in terms of who I think will win. If you
were just talking to me straight up. Then obviously there's
a reason why BC's the favorite. But since we're talking
about the value and we're talking about the bet, I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Hey, look, you don't want a pizza this weekend. You're
not worried about it. That is the game.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
That's the one to go with. That's the bet death.
I think, get more pizza. If I'm right, it's five pieces.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
If you're right, maybe maybe you just make it a
plan cheese pizza weekend. Skip the pepperoni, sausage, bacon, peppers, onions, olives,
and anchovies.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Roasted garlic. Gotta go roasted garlic on the pizza. It's
like you must have for me.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Okay, So I had a buck and a half of
topping times eight, take twelve bucks off and then throw
ten on the game. I don't know what pizza costs
in Boston. It probably costs a lot more than it
does around here.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It does it does.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
It's seventeen dollars for not great pizza around my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I'm moving twenty four dollar pizzas over here.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's why I say twenty When you said making a cheese,
I'm like, that's what a cheese is.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Around you at twenty bucks.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh my goodness, I guess I'm spoiled. Then we'll wrap
it up for Jim Connolly, for Dan Rubin. I'm ed
Trepscrew and this has been usc cho edge
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