November 3, 2025 • 30 mins
Hosts Jim Connelly (@jimmyconnelly), Derek Schooley (@derekschooley), and Ed Trefzger (@EdTrefzger) review games of the weekend and news of the past week.
Topics include Western Michigan's defensive struggles, Boston University's potential goaltending issues, Denver's inconsistent performance, and Wisconsin's impressive no-loss record. The trio also explores preliminary out-of-conference records, highlighting the Big 10 and NCHC's strong start, while delving into the challenges facing other conferences. The episode concludes with insights into the impact of the eligibility of sub-.500 teams in the NCAA tournament on the at-large field.
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Topics include Western Michigan's defensive struggles, Boston University's potential goaltending issues, Denver's inconsistent performance, and Wisconsin's impressive no-loss record. The trio also explores preliminary out-of-conference records, highlighting the Big 10 and NCHC's strong start, while delving into the challenges facing other conferences. The episode concludes with insights into the impact of the eligibility of sub-.500 teams in the NCAA tournament on the at-large field.
Find all of our podcasts at USCHO.com/podcasts
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to us Echo weekend review from Monday, November third,
twenty twenty five. I met tresh Skier alongside Jim Connolly
and Derek Schooley. Well, gentlemen, another crazy weekend. I know
we all had very busy ones in our own way.
But in the College Hockey World number three Western Michigan
they had a split in their series with Saint Cloud State.
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They lost on Saturday five to one after winning on
Friday six to five. So a split on the weekend.
But the other thing is they gave up five goals
in each game.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think maybe that's what's concerning to me, is the
fact that they're allowing so many. You know, I saw
them a few weeks ago when they swept loll and
the defense was their strong point. Goal was there starting
point to see Saint Cloud put up goals the way
that they did this weekend, and then, you know, that's
a pretty decisive win on Saturday night to close out
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that series and salvage the suite.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm sorry the split for the Huskies, but I'm a
little worried.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, I think Western Michigan's easily one of the
best teams in the country. But when you're giving up
that many goals, and it's going to become a theme
this week. There's just a lot of good teams that
are allowing a lot of goals right now.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Oh, I did the research because I was driving a
lot this weekend to watch games, watch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
My daughters play.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Will recruit all that, So I did some research in
the car Western when I got the show notes Western last.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Year, the most they gave up was eight goals.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
They did it twice back to back weekends Arizona State
when they were twelve in the nation, they gave up
eight goals. They won one in overtime and lost on
the road at in Tempe. And they gave up eight
when they beat North Dakota the eighteenth ranked Fighting Hawks,
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six to four, and then they lost four to three
in overtime at home. And the only other close time
that they did it was at the Great Lakes Invitational
where they gave up seven where they won four to
three against Tech and they lost three to one. I'm
sorry they gave up six. They lost three to Michigan State.
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And they've already done that now twice in two weekends
or on three weekends of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They gave up.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
They gave up seven to Paris, they shut it down
against Lowell, they gave up six to Michigan, and now
they gave up ten. So that's a trend that's alarming.
Three times already they've given up six when it barely
happened at all last year. So you look at three
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the last four weekends, they've given up six plots.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's alarming. Like you said, Jimmy, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Guess as a coach, when you're in that situation, do
you worry if you're getting the results. My gut feeling
would be yes, you're still worried when you're defensively not
shutting things down, especially when I think about the fact
that I thought Western Michigan rode their defense, rode their
goal attend to the National championship.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But are you you're saying you're getting the results. You
say you got Goalid in the three to two loss
against Paris. That's the farris Is one win. So you
say you got Goalid in that game. That was a
quote that first used right to you. But now you're
starting to split series. You split against Michigan, you split
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against Think Cloud. When does that become a theme I
guarantee you you're doing the zone coverage galore this weekend.
In practice, you're working on everything that involves the zone
because you're giving up ten and you're not. I mean,
it's not going to get any easier. You got a
hungary Denver team coming in, and Denver is going to
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have to get right sooner or later. And then you
got a surprise Miami team coming in that to me,
it was a big surprise that what they did against
Arizona State this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, the craziness and the concern continued for number five
Boston University swept in Orno by Maine. Now there was
a get things right weekend for Maine after losing three
to two and winning three to two in overtime to
Colgate the weekend before five to four and overtime and
eight to five in jim You see a lot of
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hockey East. Is there a goaltending issue at BEU right now?
Quite possibly?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know, Michael you Goov came in at the break
last year. He made his debut against Boston College. I
believe it was a one nothing loss, and I gave it.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He played really well throughout the.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Entire season, carried that team to the National Championship game.
Suddenly it does feel like maybe he's not he doesn't
have his fastball right now. I went back and looked
at some of the goals he gave up on Friday night,
big rebounds or just goals. He kind of wanted back
ones that he gets off his angles. I mean, Maine
does a lot of things well in front of the net.
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They redirect pucks really well, they take away eyes. I
called the game on Saturday up there and he was
pulled after three, and he just didn't look good. The
second goals when he should have stopped. I think it
went off his glove and trickles, you know everything. It
was bad rebounds, it was bad rebound control. So yeah,
I think bu has certainly something to be concerned about Maine.
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He called it a get right weekend and scoring goals
is wonderful, but they also allowed a nine goals in
a weekend that they get a sweep. And I know
Ben Barr a little bit concerned. He did not play
Alvin Boya on Saturday night. He decided to give him
a rest, saying that it's you know, sometimes goaltenders that
play a lot, just do you need a rest And
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he had, he had faith in his backup.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So you get the two wins.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
If you're made they have scoring goals, that's a good
thing for them, but they've got to find a way
to get some things right defensively and certainly in.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Goal as well.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I mean, when was the last time that you would
see these results for Boston University or three loss, eight
four loss, three one win, yes, five four ot loss
eight five loss.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I mean, those are some numbers.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And granted you're also looking at number three Michigan State,
number eleven, Yukon number twelve. Main it's not like you're
playing the little sisters of the poor. But that being said,
you're you're also got some expectations coming your Boston University.
I mean, so you and you got to tie against
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Yukon before that, so there's some there's some expectations here,
and you're not supposed to give up eight goals, not
just once, twice. You've given up bait goals in the
last four games. And throw a five spot in there too,
there's some there's some concern. There's a lot of diesel
coverage being done in that building too, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I you're talking to BU folks before the game on Saturday.
Everybody was of the mindset, you know, your goov has
had some bad Friday nights, but he always comes back
with an outstanding Saturday.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And that was the case last week.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And when he gave up bait against Yukon, then you know,
shut things down on Saturday and a three to one
win on the road.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
This time it didn't happen though, and he didn't look like.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
He suddenly solidified everything and played his best hockey. So
I think that's probably one of the bigger you know,
uh concerns.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But I think to your point too, Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right now, Jay Pandolf was just worried about picking guys
up and making sure that you know, guys are getting
the second and third and fourth chances.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
That maying gone too many times this weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Denver, Denver coming into the weekend number six. They dropped
a bit in Monday's pool a split with Alaska Anchorage,
losing four to three in overtime on Friday night, a
six nothing win on Saturday, but the Pioneers they have
yet to take a weekend sweep at any weekend so
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far this season. That seems like something to be concerned about,
or maybe it's indicative of some other things in general.
But the Pioneers can't be happy with that, always talk
about so.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, I guess the one the one saving grace
here as we you know, just make the comparisons to
Boston University and Western in that on the second night
of the series, they played really well, shut down defense,
didn't give up a goal, goaltending was strong. So maybe
not as much concerned about, you know, the point you
make about not getting the sweeps. This is a team
that you know typically can get to the front because
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they can go in and take two games in a weekend.
And you know, I go back to last week and
they came out East, really played well against Boston College
on Friday, and then they maybe got goalied a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
On a Saturday at Northeastern.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But you know, you still have some of those concerns
when you just can't find ways to pull off the
two wins at a weekend. Again, tough schedules at times
for Denver. I think that, you know, maybe nobody realized
that the Northeastern loss is probably not a bad loss.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That's a really good Northeastern team.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But at the same time, I think David Carl just
wants things to feel a little bit more the way
he expected them to.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Be at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
We always talk about Denver struggling a little bit at
the beginning of the year, and then they go on
like eighteen to twenty game heater and then we're like, oh,
remember that they struggled with a couple of games right
off the bat, somebody liked Anchorage beats them and then
they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, they beat him, and then
they woke up. But what's concerning to me with looking
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at Denver's results is to me, I think Friday nights
haven't been their best. Like they tied Air Force shut out,
Backley lost the linden Wood four to three shut out,
linded would they beat BC, but they gave up three,
then they lost one nothing, so they gave up one
after giving up three. Then they lose four to three
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in overtimeed Anchorage then shut them out. So their second
nights have been really good defensively every night. If you
look at their second nights, they've given up zero zero
one zero, So they've given up one goal in four
game twos and they've given up on their first nights.
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They've given up one, four, three, and four. So they've
been a little loose their first nights and tighten it
up the second night. Oh, I don't know if that's
a trend that they're looking at in their locker room,
but their second nights have been really good defensively. Since
we're on that defensive zone coverage THEAM this week.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And Jim, I'm going to have you bookmark something in
your mind for Friday's usc cho Edge podcast. These games,
we talked about six goals, eleven goals, nine, thirteen, seven
and six.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
So take the over if it's five and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
The over under was the over was hitting a lot
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I think if I'm you guys, I would also look
at Denver going a very low scoring on night two.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, we usually don't talk night too because they usually
don't have odds for the second night. But that's a
good point. Yeah, if you're looking at this stuff, and
we really don't get too much into that in this podcast,
but there are trends that you start seeing here that
you need to consider. None of us coming we're close
to putting any money on we college you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
We just talked.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We just talked about two teams that are going to
have to We're working on dies on coverage. We talked
about Western Michigan Denver. Now they play each other. That's
in Kalamazoo this weekend. Something to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, are we going to get a two to one
game or a nine to seven game? That's I guess
that's a good question, right night zero zero tie?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, dude, well right, if you don't have goaltending and
your defensive suspect, then you got to score a lot
of goals if you want to win. I mean, math
will tell you that the Gophers. Before we mentioned the Gophers, though,
who were swept by Wisconsin. The Badgers are six to
zero into the only team with no losses in the
top twenty. They're at number ten in the new poll
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this week. They were not considered in the poll early on.
They had dropped out of it last year. So hats
off to Wisconsin for turning that around. Head coach Mike
ca Stings has got to be very happy. They've got
stellar goaltending this year. But let's talk about the Gophers.
Another weekend sweep they will drop out of the pole.
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They have dropped out of the pole on Monday Pole.
They're now two seven and one. However, Boston College is
still in the poll in the lower part of the pole,
still in there, just enough inertia to keep them in
there right now. But they were swept by Northeastern just
a single goal for one three and zero. Lawton Zacher,
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who transferred from Brown, seventy two saves on seventy three shots,
and the Eagles are now two four and one.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, let me start with Boston College. They they're struggling
right now. They're not finding the goals. They've got a
few injuries right now. Yelvi, Ca and Gasso were missing
on Saturday night, so they're a little bit banged up there.
They're trying to find a little bit of identity too,
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So I can start there. Northeastern, though, don't sleep on
that team, really good team. I was wondering what type
of a team they would be. Did not go heavily
into the CHL state kind of the USHL for most
of their recruiting.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
That's a lead that Jerry keep is very tied into.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So I was interested to see if that would be
some sort of a litmus test on you know, do
you need CHL.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Players to be successful in this modern game.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, Northeastern creves that they can they can win with,
you know, a roster of strong USHL players. They were
great this weekend on the other side from Minnesota, and
I'll give you know, Wisconsin plenty of props. But I
heard Brad Schlossman's talking on the College Hockey Today podcast
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last week. I was listening when I was driving up
to Orno on Saturday. He talked about a game from
Minnesota against Minnesota Duluth last weekend. Minnesota did not have
a Grade A or Grade B scoring chance in the game.
That if that status true, I take Schlossman at his
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word that there's nobody that is better research than Brad.
If that's that's true, I mean, that's possibly the biggest
headline of the season.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Minnesota can't generate often, but they're just so young.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I think that that's the one thing that you got
to remember is Minnesota is just so young and they've
lost so much guys left early. They got decimated with
their early signings, and you look at their just look
down their roster.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Freshman, sophomore, freshman, sophomore, sophomore, one junior, red shirt sophomore. Okay,
you got a senior freshman, Okay, then a couple of seniors,
but then you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Got freshman freshmen freshmen.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, they're a young hockey team that wasn't supposed
to be this young, and they got decimated. So I'm
not gonna say that they're Minnesota. They should be better
than what they are, but they got they got beat
up a little bit with the with the early signings,
guys that sign that they didn't expect to sign, and
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now they're they're counting on guys that probably should probably
still be in junior hockey and had to come in early.
Guys like Mason mo that are doing a good job,
but LJ. Mooney, guys that are still young kids that
are coming in playing minutes that are are high leverage minutes,
and and there they go. And but don't take away
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from what Wisconsin's done. Wisconsin's been pretty good and you're
going to find out what the real Wisconsin is though
over the next three weeks Michigan in n Arbor, then
Ohio stay at home, and then Michigan.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
State and East Lansing.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
We'll see if they're still in the top ten after
those six games.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I would go through.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think I think that Wisconsin's a better team than
we've given them.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You'll find out if they're what what what keeps them
in the top with those six games? What keeps them
in the top ten? What kind of record? Five hundred? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair. You know, it's hard for me to.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think I honestly they can go for and too
in that stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Too true.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
You split, you split with Michigan and Michigan State. They could,
they could sweep Ohio State. I watched Ohio State. They're
pretty good. Don't sleep on them. I want I've seen today.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
They should have got they should have got it better, better,
Penn State's been, Penn State's got something going in the
third period.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They I don't a third period.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Only in the first two periods they hang around, like,
I don't know what they got in the third period.
What they what electrolyts they put their drinks in the
third period or whatever. But the first two periods they
hang around, and then the third period they come out
and and just find ways to win.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's off to them. But the first two periods there they.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Just hang around and then boom they they turn it
out of the third period, but Ohio State was really
good in those first two periods this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So you mentioned unexpected early signings and so forth. I
understand that, but it's hard for me to have a
lot of sympathy for teams that are relying on these
blue chip players who were destined to play one or
two seasons and head to the NHL. They don't have
to build a team that's all those guys. But when
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those guys are there and you can get them, you
get them. So I only have a little bit of sympathy,
not a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yes, I've never had to live that life.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
No, it's tough, right.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It's like yeah, and then and I had to ride
back on a bus and get home really late, and
they got to chart.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, I mean, realistically, there are only about what a
dozen to fifteen teams tops that can really compete for
those players. Probably, Yeah, so that's about right, and so
everybody else has to be creative. But then that also
means other teams have got upperclassmen, and I think we're
going to get into that a little bit on our
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Wednesday podcast. We're going to hit on some issues. Then
I think that might be one of them. But that's
going to wrap up the first part of the podcast
for this episode. When we come back, we're going to
look at out of Conference records after one month and
see if there's anything we've learned from that, and that's
when USCCHO Weekend Review continues. Welcome back to USCCHO Weekend Review.
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Out of Conference Records after a month. I'm just going
to go through the numbers here and then we can
kind of break some stuff down. But I had an
opportunity a couple of weeks ago to do an interview
with Atlanticpack America Commissioner Michelle Morgan, and AHA was off
to a pretty good start. They've improved the numbers a
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little bit after dropping in there, and she was kind
of reluctant to place too much on it that early on.
But that conference right now sixteen twenty four and three
four oh seven, which if they keep that will be
the best that that league is done. The Big Ten,
not surprisingly thirty two twelve and four, that's a seven
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o eight, the CCHA seventeen thirty and four, that's a
three seventy three winning percentage, Independence eleven thirty and oh
two sixty eight ECAC nineteen, twenty seven and five, and
that's a four to twenty two out of conference average.
Hockey East twenty six, twenty and five, five point fifty nine,
and NCCHC also, not surprisingly thirty nine seventeen and one.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
That's a six ninety three, And.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You want to go through each conference and maybe say
a little bit about it. One thing I will point
out about Atlantic Hockey is a nine six and one
record against the ECAC, which they play a lot against.
There were two weekends sweeps Air Force, sweeping Brown Rit
sweeping Coalgate.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I'll start with the top.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Hey, let's start with you big ten in NCCHC, they
are having elite starts to this season, the third conference
that usually gets mentioned in their Hockey East.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
They've taken a step back, if I point fifty nine is.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Significant enough in a difference from where they were at
this point last year, and realize, we've probably played more
than a third of your non conference games by this point,
even though you're only a month. And I think the
only ones that can really say can can say that
that's not true is maybe the ECAC, because you have
the IVS haven't started up really, you know, they're just
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getting started. So With all of that said, you've now
played a good pocket of your games in the Big ten,
and the NCCHC have a legitimate lead, so so much
so that if when we get to tournament time, if
those two conferences take up nine of the spots and
you only have nine and seven seven for the other
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four conferences, I'm not surprised, and that we're throwing Hockey
East in their Hockey East that has had five in
recent years. So I think that we're really seeing two
conferences that are taking a head and shoulders lead early on.
I do want to bring up Atlantic though, because you
touched on it. They've taken a little bit of a
step forward. Well, ECAC down to four to twenty two
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and winning concision, they've taken a little bit of a
step back.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Atlantic is really being led by.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Five teams right now, rit Canisius Army, Niagara Air Force.
They have fifteen out of the sixteen non conference wins
for Atlantic Cockey. I'm going to give you a team
that we know is strong in the league. Bentley, the
defending champions, took Boston College and the NCAA tournament right
to the final minute.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Bentley, they're four and zero in league.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Play averaging a goal against per game out of conference
ozho and three, they're averaging five point three three goals
against per game.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
That they've played some really good competition. I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's just showing you some some place where you see
a real stark difference. You know, a team that's strong
in conference and they have not been strong out of conference.
So it's just some data points they run Atlanta Cockey.
I think things are better. But when we get into
the will this conference get more than one team in
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the tournament? In the modern NPI, it's going to be
a lot more difficult because of the fact that you
really don't have more than one team that's taking any
major step forward. You've got five teams that are doing
well out of conference, but those aren't also the teams
that are four and oh in conference at the same time.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
So we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm interested to follow Atlanta Cocky this season because I
think that they are the one conference that seems to
be in the position to take the biggest step forward.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, I don't know where to go with you on there, Jimmy,
because obviously I'm gonna I'm gonna stick up for our
conference a little bit, and I'll stick up for defending
league champion, and I'll also stick up for a team
that's that's two and oh in league and has played
for road games and is three and one. Because you
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throughout the five that are responsible, you also have to
look at home and home and road. Bepley says, oh
and three. And while you were speaking, I pulled up
the fact that Betley has anchorage at home, New Hampshire
at home, UH, Princeton at home for five straight home games. Still,
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so I have a hard time believing that they're going
to go oh and eight. We've I've played four road games.
I played at Notre Dame and at Michigan and went
to overtime and lost to Michigan with an empty netter.
I think that's pretty good for where that my first forearm.
Now I've got Long Island at home this weekend, so
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I think you also have to So everybody's got those issues.
So I think your your body of work right now
is your body of work. Eventually it's going to come
around and you've got to look at look at things.
So yeah, you got to look at your your record.
You've got two conferences that are really good. You've got
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one that's probably a little disappointed with there there there's
in Hockey East. You got one that's probably pretty proud
of where they're at. And you've got EC, A, C,
I don't know, probably maybe a little and which are
probably not really happy with where there are and they're
they're going to look to improve. I think they're You're
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a little bit farther along than a third. I think
you're probably closer to halfway through your non conference. Like
we've played four, We've got four left, at least played
played three. They've got five left on the average. You're
probably halfway through right now.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
If you if you think of the big pockets of time,
it's that first month of the season.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You get some more games usually.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Chris So and then the Independence really are the ones
that carry non conference play in the second So I'll be.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Done any one. Like we play this weekend Long Island,
we go back, I'll see ed next weekend with Orit
and then we play linden Wood.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So I'm done with non conference in two weeks. So
I'll be full into conference in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And that's that.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I find that to be like really crazy here's another thing,
because I was speaking to my team this morning, I
have five weeks left before Christmas break?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Ten games until Christmas break? I mean we're really I
have eleven games until twenty twenty six, like we're getting
We're almost getting. And that's eleven games till halfway through
the year. We're we're getting close. Like this season's rolling here.
You're thinking, we're November right now, and we always talk
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about the games in October, and the games in November
are the same as the games in February.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
We're getting going here in the season.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So teams that are rolled a teams that are disappointing
and not moving along, like Hockey East, it's.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Time to go.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
And that's that's going to be a little bit of
our Wednesday podcast, at least from my perspective of teams
that are doing well, then teams that aren't doing well
aren't doing a qualization.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's time to start moving along here.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I just want to add one thing.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You talk about the NPI, and we're going to have
to use a season of experiencing it and seeing how
it plays out and evolves. But there's a wild card
thrown in there that is not part of the NPI itself,
but a decision made by the D one Men's Ice
Hockey Committee, and that's allowing teams with a sub five
hundred record to be eligible for the tournament. So you
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may see a situation where, let me say CCHA or
Atlantic Hockey, maybe they would get a second team in
the tournament. But there may be because of this strong
out of conference record, a Big ten team or an
NCCHC team, say a game below five hundred when the
season ends, that would edge out a second team from
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the other league, which wouldn't have happened in the past.
And we see every year back in the pairwise days,
one or two or three teams maybe that or maybe
more than that that would have been in the tournament
if sub five hundred teams were allowed. So maybe the
NPI I'll change that in ways I don't expect, but
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it's it's the same components except the head to head
type stuff. So I expect that that allowance of a
sub five hundred team is going to keep a second
team out of one of those conferences.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Love the I love the fact that we've been doing this.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
This is Week five this year, and you might have
brought this topic cup three of the five weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I love that, I love I know what head pet
tea for this year is this is that.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, it's not. It's not really a pet peeve.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's just realistically that's what it looks like, which feeds
into your thing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
And now that it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
October, we're now say how much the games in November count,
but the games right from the beginning of the season
count as much. And I really think that this might
be a year where as we see all these splits
with top ten teams, this may be the year where
those October games come back to haunt a lot of teams.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Someone will look back on October. I'm not sure who
it'll be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Could it be Denver and the not getting the full
points out of Alaska Anchorage?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Who knows. You know, there's plenty of teams out there
that are good.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Teams that maybe mains loss at home last week, the
Colgate hurts them down the road.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
There's those types of games in there. I think every
year we have that. I mean, North Dakota always remembers.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Playing Kenesians right twice and losing. You know, they'll never
be forgotten, so fan bases.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Will remember that well, they finally did pick up a
win in New York State. They're now five and one
in their last three trips after getting swept by Canisius
and Cornell. They got that split with Clarkson, so at
least that you mean one and they're one in right,
one and five yeah, one and five, Yeah, one in five.
New York State is five and one versus them. Well,
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that's going to wrap it up for this week. A
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Speaker 6 (30:38):
This has been us ch O Weekend Review.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to us Echo weekend review from Monday, November third,
twenty twenty five. I met tresh Skier alongside Jim Connolly
and Derek Schooley. Well, gentlemen, another crazy weekend. I know
we all had very busy ones in our own way.
But in the College Hockey World number three Western Michigan
they had a split in their series with Saint Cloud State.
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They lost on Saturday five to one after winning on
Friday six to five. So a split on the weekend.
But the other thing is they gave up five goals
in each game.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think maybe that's what's concerning to me, is the
fact that they're allowing so many. You know, I saw
them a few weeks ago when they swept loll and
the defense was their strong point. Goal was there starting
point to see Saint Cloud put up goals the way
that they did this weekend, and then, you know, that's
a pretty decisive win on Saturday night to close out
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that series and salvage the suite.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm sorry the split for the Huskies, but I'm a
little worried.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, I think Western Michigan's easily one of the
best teams in the country. But when you're giving up
that many goals, and it's going to become a theme
this week. There's just a lot of good teams that
are allowing a lot of goals right now.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Oh, I did the research because I was driving a
lot this weekend to watch games, watch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
My daughters play.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Will recruit all that, So I did some research in
the car Western when I got the show notes Western last.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Year, the most they gave up was eight goals.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
They did it twice back to back weekends Arizona State
when they were twelve in the nation, they gave up
eight goals. They won one in overtime and lost on
the road at in Tempe. And they gave up eight
when they beat North Dakota the eighteenth ranked Fighting Hawks,
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six to four, and then they lost four to three
in overtime at home. And the only other close time
that they did it was at the Great Lakes Invitational
where they gave up seven where they won four to
three against Tech and they lost three to one. I'm
sorry they gave up six. They lost three to Michigan State.
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And they've already done that now twice in two weekends
or on three weekends of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They gave up.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
They gave up seven to Paris, they shut it down
against Lowell, they gave up six to Michigan, and now
they gave up ten. So that's a trend that's alarming.
Three times already they've given up six when it barely
happened at all last year. So you look at three
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the last four weekends, they've given up six plots.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's alarming. Like you said, Jimmy, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Guess as a coach, when you're in that situation, do
you worry if you're getting the results. My gut feeling
would be yes, you're still worried when you're defensively not
shutting things down, especially when I think about the fact
that I thought Western Michigan rode their defense, rode their
goal attend to the National championship.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But are you you're saying you're getting the results. You
say you got Goalid in the three to two loss
against Paris. That's the farris Is one win. So you
say you got Goalid in that game. That was a
quote that first used right to you. But now you're
starting to split series. You split against Michigan, you split
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against Think Cloud. When does that become a theme I
guarantee you you're doing the zone coverage galore this weekend.
In practice, you're working on everything that involves the zone
because you're giving up ten and you're not. I mean,
it's not going to get any easier. You got a
hungary Denver team coming in, and Denver is going to
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have to get right sooner or later. And then you
got a surprise Miami team coming in that to me,
it was a big surprise that what they did against
Arizona State this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, the craziness and the concern continued for number five
Boston University swept in Orno by Maine. Now there was
a get things right weekend for Maine after losing three
to two and winning three to two in overtime to
Colgate the weekend before five to four and overtime and
eight to five in jim You see a lot of
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hockey East. Is there a goaltending issue at BEU right now?
Quite possibly?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know, Michael you Goov came in at the break
last year. He made his debut against Boston College. I
believe it was a one nothing loss, and I gave it.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He played really well throughout the.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Entire season, carried that team to the National Championship game.
Suddenly it does feel like maybe he's not he doesn't
have his fastball right now. I went back and looked
at some of the goals he gave up on Friday night,
big rebounds or just goals. He kind of wanted back
ones that he gets off his angles. I mean, Maine
does a lot of things well in front of the net.
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They redirect pucks really well, they take away eyes. I
called the game on Saturday up there and he was
pulled after three, and he just didn't look good. The
second goals when he should have stopped. I think it
went off his glove and trickles, you know everything. It
was bad rebounds, it was bad rebound control. So yeah,
I think bu has certainly something to be concerned about Maine.
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He called it a get right weekend and scoring goals
is wonderful, but they also allowed a nine goals in
a weekend that they get a sweep. And I know
Ben Barr a little bit concerned. He did not play
Alvin Boya on Saturday night. He decided to give him
a rest, saying that it's you know, sometimes goaltenders that
play a lot, just do you need a rest And
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he had, he had faith in his backup.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So you get the two wins.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
If you're made they have scoring goals, that's a good
thing for them, but they've got to find a way
to get some things right defensively and certainly in.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Goal as well.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I mean, when was the last time that you would
see these results for Boston University or three loss, eight
four loss, three one win, yes, five four ot loss
eight five loss.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I mean, those are some numbers.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And granted you're also looking at number three Michigan State,
number eleven, Yukon number twelve. Main it's not like you're
playing the little sisters of the poor. But that being said,
you're you're also got some expectations coming your Boston University.
I mean, so you and you got to tie against
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Yukon before that, so there's some there's some expectations here,
and you're not supposed to give up eight goals, not
just once, twice. You've given up bait goals in the
last four games. And throw a five spot in there too,
there's some there's some concern. There's a lot of diesel
coverage being done in that building too, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I you're talking to BU folks before the game on Saturday.
Everybody was of the mindset, you know, your goov has
had some bad Friday nights, but he always comes back
with an outstanding Saturday.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And that was the case last week.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And when he gave up bait against Yukon, then you know,
shut things down on Saturday and a three to one
win on the road.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
This time it didn't happen though, and he didn't look like.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
He suddenly solidified everything and played his best hockey. So
I think that's probably one of the bigger you know,
uh concerns.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But I think to your point too, Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right now, Jay Pandolf was just worried about picking guys
up and making sure that you know, guys are getting
the second and third and fourth chances.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
That maying gone too many times this weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Denver, Denver coming into the weekend number six. They dropped
a bit in Monday's pool a split with Alaska Anchorage,
losing four to three in overtime on Friday night, a
six nothing win on Saturday, but the Pioneers they have
yet to take a weekend sweep at any weekend so
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far this season. That seems like something to be concerned about,
or maybe it's indicative of some other things in general.
But the Pioneers can't be happy with that, always talk
about so.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, I guess the one the one saving grace
here as we you know, just make the comparisons to
Boston University and Western in that on the second night
of the series, they played really well, shut down defense,
didn't give up a goal, goaltending was strong. So maybe
not as much concerned about, you know, the point you
make about not getting the sweeps. This is a team
that you know typically can get to the front because
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they can go in and take two games in a weekend.
And you know, I go back to last week and
they came out East, really played well against Boston College
on Friday, and then they maybe got goalied a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
On a Saturday at Northeastern.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But you know, you still have some of those concerns
when you just can't find ways to pull off the
two wins at a weekend. Again, tough schedules at times
for Denver. I think that, you know, maybe nobody realized
that the Northeastern loss is probably not a bad loss.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That's a really good Northeastern team.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But at the same time, I think David Carl just
wants things to feel a little bit more the way
he expected them to.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Be at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
We always talk about Denver struggling a little bit at
the beginning of the year, and then they go on
like eighteen to twenty game heater and then we're like, oh,
remember that they struggled with a couple of games right
off the bat, somebody liked Anchorage beats them and then
they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, they beat him, and then
they woke up. But what's concerning to me with looking
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at Denver's results is to me, I think Friday nights
haven't been their best. Like they tied Air Force shut out,
Backley lost the linden Wood four to three shut out,
linded would they beat BC, but they gave up three,
then they lost one nothing, so they gave up one
after giving up three. Then they lose four to three
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in overtimeed Anchorage then shut them out. So their second
nights have been really good defensively every night. If you
look at their second nights, they've given up zero zero
one zero, So they've given up one goal in four
game twos and they've given up on their first nights.
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They've given up one, four, three, and four. So they've
been a little loose their first nights and tighten it
up the second night. Oh, I don't know if that's
a trend that they're looking at in their locker room,
but their second nights have been really good defensively. Since
we're on that defensive zone coverage THEAM this week.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And Jim, I'm going to have you bookmark something in
your mind for Friday's usc cho Edge podcast. These games,
we talked about six goals, eleven goals, nine, thirteen, seven
and six.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
So take the over if it's five and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
The over under was the over was hitting a lot
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I think if I'm you guys, I would also look
at Denver going a very low scoring on night two.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, we usually don't talk night too because they usually
don't have odds for the second night. But that's a
good point. Yeah, if you're looking at this stuff, and
we really don't get too much into that in this podcast,
but there are trends that you start seeing here that
you need to consider. None of us coming we're close
to putting any money on we college you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
We just talked.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We just talked about two teams that are going to
have to We're working on dies on coverage. We talked
about Western Michigan Denver. Now they play each other. That's
in Kalamazoo this weekend. Something to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, are we going to get a two to one
game or a nine to seven game? That's I guess
that's a good question, right night zero zero tie?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, dude, well right, if you don't have goaltending and
your defensive suspect, then you got to score a lot
of goals if you want to win. I mean, math
will tell you that the Gophers. Before we mentioned the Gophers, though,
who were swept by Wisconsin. The Badgers are six to
zero into the only team with no losses in the
top twenty. They're at number ten in the new poll
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this week. They were not considered in the poll early on.
They had dropped out of it last year. So hats
off to Wisconsin for turning that around. Head coach Mike
ca Stings has got to be very happy. They've got
stellar goaltending this year. But let's talk about the Gophers.
Another weekend sweep they will drop out of the pole.
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They have dropped out of the pole on Monday Pole.
They're now two seven and one. However, Boston College is
still in the poll in the lower part of the pole,
still in there, just enough inertia to keep them in
there right now. But they were swept by Northeastern just
a single goal for one three and zero. Lawton Zacher,
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who transferred from Brown, seventy two saves on seventy three shots,
and the Eagles are now two four and one.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, let me start with Boston College. They they're struggling
right now. They're not finding the goals. They've got a
few injuries right now. Yelvi, Ca and Gasso were missing
on Saturday night, so they're a little bit banged up there.
They're trying to find a little bit of identity too,
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So I can start there. Northeastern, though, don't sleep on
that team, really good team. I was wondering what type
of a team they would be. Did not go heavily
into the CHL state kind of the USHL for most
of their recruiting.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
That's a lead that Jerry keep is very tied into.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So I was interested to see if that would be
some sort of a litmus test on you know, do
you need CHL.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Players to be successful in this modern game.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, Northeastern creves that they can they can win with,
you know, a roster of strong USHL players. They were
great this weekend on the other side from Minnesota, and
I'll give you know, Wisconsin plenty of props. But I
heard Brad Schlossman's talking on the College Hockey Today podcast
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last week. I was listening when I was driving up
to Orno on Saturday. He talked about a game from
Minnesota against Minnesota Duluth last weekend. Minnesota did not have
a Grade A or Grade B scoring chance in the game.
That if that status true, I take Schlossman at his
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word that there's nobody that is better research than Brad.
If that's that's true, I mean, that's possibly the biggest
headline of the season.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Minnesota can't generate often, but they're just so young.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I think that that's the one thing that you got
to remember is Minnesota is just so young and they've
lost so much guys left early. They got decimated with
their early signings, and you look at their just look
down their roster.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Freshman, sophomore, freshman, sophomore, sophomore, one junior, red shirt sophomore. Okay,
you got a senior freshman, Okay, then a couple of seniors,
but then you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Got freshman freshmen freshmen.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, they're a young hockey team that wasn't supposed
to be this young, and they got decimated. So I'm
not gonna say that they're Minnesota. They should be better
than what they are, but they got they got beat
up a little bit with the with the early signings,
guys that sign that they didn't expect to sign, and
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now they're they're counting on guys that probably should probably
still be in junior hockey and had to come in early.
Guys like Mason mo that are doing a good job,
but LJ. Mooney, guys that are still young kids that
are coming in playing minutes that are are high leverage minutes,
and and there they go. And but don't take away
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from what Wisconsin's done. Wisconsin's been pretty good and you're
going to find out what the real Wisconsin is though
over the next three weeks Michigan in n Arbor, then
Ohio stay at home, and then Michigan.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
State and East Lansing.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
We'll see if they're still in the top ten after
those six games.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I would go through.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think I think that Wisconsin's a better team than
we've given them.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You'll find out if they're what what what keeps them
in the top with those six games? What keeps them
in the top ten? What kind of record? Five hundred? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair. You know, it's hard for me to.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think I honestly they can go for and too
in that stretch.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Too true.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
You split, you split with Michigan and Michigan State. They could,
they could sweep Ohio State. I watched Ohio State. They're
pretty good. Don't sleep on them. I want I've seen today.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
They should have got they should have got it better, better,
Penn State's been, Penn State's got something going in the
third period.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They I don't a third period.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Only in the first two periods they hang around, like,
I don't know what they got in the third period.
What they what electrolyts they put their drinks in the
third period or whatever. But the first two periods they
hang around, and then the third period they come out
and and just find ways to win.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's off to them. But the first two periods there they.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Just hang around and then boom they they turn it
out of the third period, but Ohio State was really
good in those first two periods this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So you mentioned unexpected early signings and so forth. I
understand that, but it's hard for me to have a
lot of sympathy for teams that are relying on these
blue chip players who were destined to play one or
two seasons and head to the NHL. They don't have
to build a team that's all those guys. But when
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those guys are there and you can get them, you
get them. So I only have a little bit of sympathy,
not a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yes, I've never had to live that life.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
No, it's tough, right.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It's like yeah, and then and I had to ride
back on a bus and get home really late, and
they got to chart.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, I mean, realistically, there are only about what a
dozen to fifteen teams tops that can really compete for
those players. Probably, Yeah, so that's about right, and so
everybody else has to be creative. But then that also
means other teams have got upperclassmen, and I think we're
going to get into that a little bit on our
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Wednesday podcast. We're going to hit on some issues. Then
I think that might be one of them. But that's
going to wrap up the first part of the podcast
for this episode. When we come back, we're going to
look at out of Conference records after one month and
see if there's anything we've learned from that, and that's
when USCCHO Weekend Review continues. Welcome back to USCCHO Weekend Review.
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Out of Conference Records after a month. I'm just going
to go through the numbers here and then we can
kind of break some stuff down. But I had an
opportunity a couple of weeks ago to do an interview
with Atlanticpack America Commissioner Michelle Morgan, and AHA was off
to a pretty good start. They've improved the numbers a
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little bit after dropping in there, and she was kind
of reluctant to place too much on it that early on.
But that conference right now sixteen twenty four and three
four oh seven, which if they keep that will be
the best that that league is done. The Big Ten,
not surprisingly thirty two twelve and four, that's a seven
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o eight, the CCHA seventeen thirty and four, that's a
three seventy three winning percentage, Independence eleven thirty and oh
two sixty eight ECAC nineteen, twenty seven and five, and
that's a four to twenty two out of conference average.
Hockey East twenty six, twenty and five, five point fifty nine,
and NCCHC also, not surprisingly thirty nine seventeen and one.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
That's a six ninety three, And.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You want to go through each conference and maybe say
a little bit about it. One thing I will point
out about Atlantic Hockey is a nine six and one
record against the ECAC, which they play a lot against.
There were two weekends sweeps Air Force, sweeping Brown Rit
sweeping Coalgate.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I'll start with the top.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Hey, let's start with you big ten in NCCHC, they
are having elite starts to this season, the third conference
that usually gets mentioned in their Hockey East.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
They've taken a step back, if I point fifty nine is.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Significant enough in a difference from where they were at
this point last year, and realize, we've probably played more
than a third of your non conference games by this point,
even though you're only a month. And I think the
only ones that can really say can can say that
that's not true is maybe the ECAC, because you have
the IVS haven't started up really, you know, they're just
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getting started. So With all of that said, you've now
played a good pocket of your games in the Big ten,
and the NCCHC have a legitimate lead, so so much
so that if when we get to tournament time, if
those two conferences take up nine of the spots and
you only have nine and seven seven for the other
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four conferences, I'm not surprised, and that we're throwing Hockey
East in their Hockey East that has had five in
recent years. So I think that we're really seeing two
conferences that are taking a head and shoulders lead early on.
I do want to bring up Atlantic though, because you
touched on it. They've taken a little bit of a
step forward. Well, ECAC down to four to twenty two
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and winning concision, they've taken a little bit of a
step back.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Atlantic is really being led by.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Five teams right now, rit Canisius Army, Niagara Air Force.
They have fifteen out of the sixteen non conference wins
for Atlantic Cockey. I'm going to give you a team
that we know is strong in the league. Bentley, the
defending champions, took Boston College and the NCAA tournament right
to the final minute.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Bentley, they're four and zero in league.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Play averaging a goal against per game out of conference
ozho and three, they're averaging five point three three goals
against per game.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
That they've played some really good competition. I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's just showing you some some place where you see
a real stark difference. You know, a team that's strong
in conference and they have not been strong out of conference.
So it's just some data points they run Atlanta Cockey.
I think things are better. But when we get into
the will this conference get more than one team in
(23:13):
the tournament? In the modern NPI, it's going to be
a lot more difficult because of the fact that you
really don't have more than one team that's taking any
major step forward. You've got five teams that are doing
well out of conference, but those aren't also the teams
that are four and oh in conference at the same time.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
So we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm interested to follow Atlanta Cocky this season because I
think that they are the one conference that seems to
be in the position to take the biggest step forward.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, I don't know where to go with you on there, Jimmy,
because obviously I'm gonna I'm gonna stick up for our
conference a little bit, and I'll stick up for defending
league champion, and I'll also stick up for a team
that's that's two and oh in league and has played
for road games and is three and one. Because you
(24:02):
throughout the five that are responsible, you also have to
look at home and home and road. Bepley says, oh
and three. And while you were speaking, I pulled up
the fact that Betley has anchorage at home, New Hampshire
at home, UH, Princeton at home for five straight home games. Still,
(24:25):
so I have a hard time believing that they're going
to go oh and eight. We've I've played four road games.
I played at Notre Dame and at Michigan and went
to overtime and lost to Michigan with an empty netter.
I think that's pretty good for where that my first forearm.
Now I've got Long Island at home this weekend, so
(24:46):
I think you also have to So everybody's got those issues.
So I think your your body of work right now
is your body of work. Eventually it's going to come
around and you've got to look at look at things.
So yeah, you got to look at your your record.
You've got two conferences that are really good. You've got
(25:06):
one that's probably a little disappointed with there there there's
in Hockey East. You got one that's probably pretty proud
of where they're at. And you've got EC, A, C,
I don't know, probably maybe a little and which are
probably not really happy with where there are and they're
they're going to look to improve. I think they're You're
(25:27):
a little bit farther along than a third. I think
you're probably closer to halfway through your non conference. Like
we've played four, We've got four left, at least played
played three. They've got five left on the average. You're
probably halfway through right now.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
If you if you think of the big pockets of time,
it's that first month of the season.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You get some more games usually.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Chris So and then the Independence really are the ones
that carry non conference play in the second So I'll be.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Done any one. Like we play this weekend Long Island,
we go back, I'll see ed next weekend with Orit
and then we play linden Wood.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So I'm done with non conference in two weeks. So
I'll be full into conference in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And that's that.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I find that to be like really crazy here's another thing,
because I was speaking to my team this morning, I
have five weeks left before Christmas break?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Ten games until Christmas break? I mean we're really I
have eleven games until twenty twenty six, like we're getting
We're almost getting. And that's eleven games till halfway through
the year. We're we're getting close. Like this season's rolling here.
You're thinking, we're November right now, and we always talk
(26:44):
about the games in October, and the games in November
are the same as the games in February.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
We're getting going here in the season.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So teams that are rolled a teams that are disappointing
and not moving along, like Hockey East, it's.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Time to go.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
And that's that's going to be a little bit of
our Wednesday podcast, at least from my perspective of teams
that are doing well, then teams that aren't doing well
aren't doing a qualization.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's time to start moving along here.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I just want to add one thing.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You talk about the NPI, and we're going to have
to use a season of experiencing it and seeing how
it plays out and evolves. But there's a wild card
thrown in there that is not part of the NPI itself,
but a decision made by the D one Men's Ice
Hockey Committee, and that's allowing teams with a sub five
hundred record to be eligible for the tournament. So you
(27:38):
may see a situation where, let me say CCHA or
Atlantic Hockey, maybe they would get a second team in
the tournament. But there may be because of this strong
out of conference record, a Big ten team or an
NCCHC team, say a game below five hundred when the
season ends, that would edge out a second team from
(28:01):
the other league, which wouldn't have happened in the past.
And we see every year back in the pairwise days,
one or two or three teams maybe that or maybe
more than that that would have been in the tournament
if sub five hundred teams were allowed. So maybe the
NPI I'll change that in ways I don't expect, but
(28:23):
it's it's the same components except the head to head
type stuff. So I expect that that allowance of a
sub five hundred team is going to keep a second
team out of one of those conferences.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Love the I love the fact that we've been doing this.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
This is Week five this year, and you might have
brought this topic cup three of the five weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I love that, I love I know what head pet
tea for this year is this is that.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, it's not. It's not really a pet peeve.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's just realistically that's what it looks like, which feeds
into your thing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
And now that it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
October, we're now say how much the games in November count,
but the games right from the beginning of the season
count as much. And I really think that this might
be a year where as we see all these splits
with top ten teams, this may be the year where
those October games come back to haunt a lot of teams.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Someone will look back on October. I'm not sure who
it'll be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Could it be Denver and the not getting the full
points out of Alaska Anchorage?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Who knows. You know, there's plenty of teams out there
that are good.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Teams that maybe mains loss at home last week, the
Colgate hurts them down the road.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
There's those types of games in there. I think every
year we have that. I mean, North Dakota always remembers.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Playing Kenesians right twice and losing. You know, they'll never
be forgotten, so fan bases.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Will remember that well, they finally did pick up a
win in New York State. They're now five and one
in their last three trips after getting swept by Canisius
and Cornell. They got that split with Clarkson, so at
least that you mean one and they're one in right,
one and five yeah, one and five, Yeah, one in five.
New York State is five and one versus them. Well,
(30:09):
that's going to wrap it up for this week. A
reminder we also have this on video on YouTube. Go
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follow the links from our website, like and subscribe and
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(30:31):
much just sitting in the same place. But anyway, for
Jim Connolly, for Derek Schooley, I'm ed Trefsker and
Speaker 6 (30:38):
This has been us ch O Weekend Review.
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