January 13, 2025 • 41 mins
Hosts Jim Connelly (@jimmyconnelly), Derek Schooley (@derekschooley), and Ed Trefzger (@EdTrefzger) review games of the weekend and news of the week.
They discuss the week's results for the top 20 in the USCHO.com Division I men's ice hockey poll. They highlight the standout performance of Maine, who swept UMass Lowell on the road and solidified their defensive strength; Denver's close wins over Miami, positioning them close to first in the NCHC; and the unexpected struggles of Colorado College and St. Cloud State. The commentary covers key games, impressive individual performances, and the fluctuating standings within conferences. They also delve into the sustainability of Hockey East's dominance in the pairwise rankings and Army's unprecedented 22-goal weekend against Mercyhurst.
Times are approximate:
00:15 Introduction and hosts
00:54 Maine's impressive weekend
02:48 Denver's close wins over Miami
06:03 Colorado College's struggles
07:23 BU's offensive surge
09:48 Quinnipiac's winning streak
11:49 UConn's rise in Hockey East
14:29 BC's unusual stumble
17:03 Ohio State's strong season
19:09 St. Cloud state's january drop
20:11 Cornell's setback against Sacred Heart
22:16 Analyzing the PairWise Rankings
23:34 Hockey East's NCAA tournament prospects
26:16 Arizona State's unexpected performance
29:47 Wisconsin's struggles and tournament chances
31:12 Augustana's potential as a spoiler
33:39 ECAC's historical performance in PairWise
37:04 Army's offensive explosion
40:46 Wrapup
They discuss the week's results for the top 20 in the USCHO.com Division I men's ice hockey poll. They highlight the standout performance of Maine, who swept UMass Lowell on the road and solidified their defensive strength; Denver's close wins over Miami, positioning them close to first in the NCHC; and the unexpected struggles of Colorado College and St. Cloud State. The commentary covers key games, impressive individual performances, and the fluctuating standings within conferences. They also delve into the sustainability of Hockey East's dominance in the pairwise rankings and Army's unprecedented 22-goal weekend against Mercyhurst.
Times are approximate:
00:15 Introduction and hosts
00:54 Maine's impressive weekend
02:48 Denver's close wins over Miami
06:03 Colorado College's struggles
07:23 BU's offensive surge
09:48 Quinnipiac's winning streak
11:49 UConn's rise in Hockey East
14:29 BC's unusual stumble
17:03 Ohio State's strong season
19:09 St. Cloud state's january drop
20:11 Cornell's setback against Sacred Heart
22:16 Analyzing the PairWise Rankings
23:34 Hockey East's NCAA tournament prospects
26:16 Arizona State's unexpected performance
29:47 Wisconsin's struggles and tournament chances
31:12 Augustana's potential as a spoiler
33:39 ECAC's historical performance in PairWise
37:04 Army's offensive explosion
40:46 Wrapup
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to us Echo weekend review from Monday, January thirteenth,
twenty twenty five. I'm Hat Trevsker alongside Jim Connolly and
Derek Schooley. What a mixed week for the top twenty
in the usccho dot com Division one Men's.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ice hockey poll.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Jim and I were talking about our ballots, as were
poll voters, and after you get out of the first
seven or eight, it's tough putting a ballot together this
week because everybody else seemed to have either at best
split weekends or down weekends. But some teams had some
good weekends, and let's start with them on a positive note.
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How about May Number seven Maine after a weekend previously
splitting with Denver, swept number eight Mass Lowell and did
it on the road at Songus three to one and two, one,
three and one through those four games, and they only
gave up five goals in that too, which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I call that series against Lowell this week on television,
and I have to say that Maine is one of
the hardest working teams out there. They battle, they are heavy,
they get up the ice, and Saturday especially they had
a lot of transition, a lot of odd man and opportunities,
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but they battle and they don't allow much defensively.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And Low's two goals were both highlight reel goals.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Because that was the only thing that was going to
beat Alvin Boyer and net.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
His numbers are just fantastic this season.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think that Maine is If you don't have Maine
on your radar nationally as a team that could possibly
reach a frozen four, start considering them very seriously. This
is a really good hockey team that is right now
playing lockdown defense over the last four games.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and don't discount loll that that's a tough.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Weekend for them, but they were hot going into it
when in the tournament out in the Palm springs, the desert,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But yeah, I think that's a telling tale.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You have two top ten teams and it shows that
I think Coole is eight going in and the pair
wise and they only dropped it just a tat and
I think that shows the strength of.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Hockey East right now. What is it?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
All of the Hockey East teams are within the top
twenty nine in the pair wise right now.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's pretty impressible.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, number six Denver.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They swept Miami and NCCHC play there's just two points
out of first. Although I do want to put that
you don't want those moral victories, especially the season's been tough.
But give credit to Miami that those games were not
blowouts by Denver. That really it seemed like they could
have been. But Denver just two points out of first
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in the NCCHC. Arizona State, Western Michigan, North Dakota all
with nineteen points. But that was probably a needed weekend
for Denver. They've had some not so great weekends in
the middle of the season around the semester break they
had split with Maine and then get those two wins
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that kind of gives them a little momentum.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I feel bad for a little bit for Miami. Anthony
Norrie and they had a decent start to the air.
They've lost twelve in a row and their first games
over a month. They played the sixth, seventh and now
they're playing the tenth of the eleventh and come on
half play Denver, who's a little fired up on their
break a little bit. They battled, they competed, They're going
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to get somebody. They're not going to end the air
on a massive lose, Drek. It's going to hurt somebody,
whether it's Omha, whether it's the loot, and not to
loose because they're out of the parawise running, but they're
gonna get somebody, mark my words.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The one.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
The surprising thing is North Dakota, who we rode off
a little bit, is now in a three way tie
in first place. And Denver, who was looking to run
away with it, is now got three teams ahead of them,
and they all played I believe they've all played the
same amount of games.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So this is this is right now a big race,
and hopefully I'd.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Like to see Miami get a couple of wins or
a couple of wins down the stretch for their psyche
and morales, their building, but it might hurt somebody as well.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I had a chance to just see the Friday game,
the second and third periods of that, and I'll tell
you Miami gave Denver a lot of trouble in that game,
and that was a two to one game. Late Denver
pops a couple midway late through the third period. I
believe even the fourth goal was the empty netter I
(05:09):
just I have to agree schools, but you do feel
for Miami because they played really good hockey against just
a very hungry Denver team playing at home.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's a tough building in which to win.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But you know, going to your point about the NCC
standings right now, that is going to be a little
accordion at the top. Six point weekends will be the
most valued commodity out there. Four point weekends probably feel
good in the NCCHC right now because you're gaining. You
just can't have lost weekends. If you're one of those
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four teams you mentioned, they can't have any lost weekends.
That feels like a force and that's going to make
a run for the NCC regular season crown, and no mistakes,
there's no room because somebody will really take advantage of
six point week an you could just separate yourself from
this pack.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What do you think of Colorado College? Ed or Jimmy
whoever wants to touch that one?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I noted that one in our do over section.
We hadn't mentioned it, but Omaha swept the number thirteen
c s at home. Colorado College now ten nine and one,
meaning after an eight no start, they've gone two nine
and one.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's it's crazy. That one really surprised me.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And I know that we looked at their schedule early
and we said, oh, hey there eight No, but have
they played, did they have any really.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Super quality wins?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And what would it be like when they got to
the league played League play has really jumped up and
did Colorado College, and then it's trickled into any of
the non league games that they played around it. So
they're struggling right now. And I think we mentioned this
last week. They're struggling. We don't know if this extenuating
circumstances in terms of injuries or something. But it was
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a good start for them, and that that was the
field story. It was a good start for Denver, and
we thought they might run away with the conference.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Everything defeated.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, there was undefeated for so long and they that
streak went way back to last season, and everybody just
wanted to talk about the streak. Once it broke, it
snapped and now they're back on the right track. But
there was three lean weeks for them in a row.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
B you got a little bit of a shot in
the arm a big offensive weekend in a sweep over
Vermont six to one and seven for at home.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
BU is now.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Alone in second place in Hockey East and then they're
just a point behind Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that was a good good weekend for BU.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean, guys like Cole Iersen been back from World Junior.
He put a put three in on Saturday night in
that seven, seven to four game. That was kind of
a crazy game with Vermont there. I still think there's
some steps BU has to take. I'm sure j pandolf
will liked scoring thirteen goals, probably didn't like giving a
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four on Saturday in a game. It probably became more
of a track meet than it was a hockey games.
I still think BU has room to grow, but this
is a good start.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Seeing the puck pop.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
In the net the way it did and being reunited
as a team after World Juniors, that has to feel
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, to have a bounce back after a disappointing Yale weekend.
We're looking they were like falling down into the teens thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen in the pairwise.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now they've climbed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, that's a big weekend for them to get right
in their schedule gets a little bit harder coming up
New Hampshire harder DC circle that one two weeks away,
then New Hampshire again.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Schedule. This is a tough little stretch.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
For BU coming up, and that BC weekend is obviously
everybody circles that in their calendar around those both campuses.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We were talking about it.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was talking about with another coach, and it's really weird.
You play teams you got this big league and then
you play a team twice within three weeks, three games
within I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I'm scheduling sometimes, I know that you have to put
people in different spots. But they just played. They're gonna
play New Hampshire January seventeenth, eighteen. They shouldn't play them
again on January thirty and little pet peeve of mine
and we've started.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
The person that takes care of that probably is going
to listen to this. So but I don't. He doesn't
do the schedule. He Steve doesn't do that. Come on, Steve,
you're not if you're better than that, if you do it.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Let's look at Quinnipiac.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's not been a great season for the Bobcats, but
they did pick up three wins this week. The number
twenty Quinnipiac Bobcats beating Stonehill in the middle of the
week six to one, and then they swept their travel
partner in the ECAC. That's Princeton four to two and
three to nothing. There are six points ahead of Clarkson
in the ECAC standings. But as we'll get into their
(10:13):
right on the borderline in the pair wise, not a
great year for ECAC, but some needed wins for Rand
Pecknold's Bobcats.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Any this is the dream of Christmas break right. You
have a good focus of your players and sometimes you
get three games in a week and you can win
all three.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's one of those dream scenarios.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I'm sure Ran Pecknoll circled this week on the calendar
saying we need to get all three. They do that,
They take care of business and now they're back in.
This is a team that was dropping in the pair
wise and you know they're still technically on the outside
looking in. We'll get into that the second half of
the show. But I think that this is a positive sign.
I feel like Quinnipiac has gotten a lot of what
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ails them out of their system and they're starting to
play some of their best hockey weird.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Seven of their last eight games are wins, and we're
talking about just being on the cut line. One of
those was in overtime and the other one was a
lost Northeastern, But the wins a win. They barely came
back and beat Aic when they were up five to one,
Aiic tied it, they scored a late goal, and then
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they won a whole bunch of hockey games, won seven
of eight and they're only at fifteen right now.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So I'm worried about that. I know we're going to
get into it. I'm worried with.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The loss down to somebody in the twenties or thirties
might put them in a precarious position.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The next team making a good case for themselves in
the top twenty. In fact, they should show up in
the poll this week is Connecticut. Yukon had a two
game sweep of number seventeen New Hampshire four to one
and three one, so they picked up six points in
league standings and leapt from sixth place to third place,
and leapt from sixth place to third place in Hockey East.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
That was a huge weekend and the way New Hampshire
was playing coming in they had put themselves into a
pairwise position and they're still in pretty good They're still
inside the cut line and the pairwise but they are
at the bottom of the Hockey East standings. They had
the least number of games played. They were looking to
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win some league games to move up, and now hear
that it becomes a lost weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But good for Yukon.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's a team now that suddenly is they're trying to
change their fate a little bit and they have moved
into the top twelve in the pairwise. Suddenly, this Yukon
team that I think a lot of people in Hockey
East at least were ready to write off, they're now
playing their best hockey and making a case for themselves
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to be a top fourteen in Hockey East, be a
team that makes the NCAA tournament for the first time.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This is all.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Coming off of really just one really good weekend, and
that's what what can happen at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I think we're gonna see a top a couple of
battles here.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Nobody's surprised by this. With their new building and the
brand name of Yukon, nobody was surprised by it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Or surprised the other way schools, to be honest, when
they were having some struggles, I felt like a couple
of years ago they got on the right path, didn't
struggle a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So I'm not surprised. I agree with you. Yeah, nobody's surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Nobody's surprised that they're with the new building they've got
in the campus that you cround, the brand recognition. Mike
Cavanough was a high level recruiter at Boston College. Nobody's surprised,
but I think one thing you're a c Another one
to circle that we'll talk about next week is Yukon.
That name coming up this week, followed by the Connectic
at ice. How big is that Quinnipiac Yukon game going
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to be.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
For the Bobcats. We just talked about them. How big
is that?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You're talking about two teams twelve or eleven and fifteen
right now.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a massive game there as well. Yeah, for both teams.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, it'll be the winner of that they could they
certainly boost their case their resume, but the loser could
slip a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's something you're going to have to keep an eye on.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Some teams.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Wish they could do the weekend over number two Boston College.
They were up to nothing at home on Friday and
then Merrimack got the last five goals in the game.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
To win five to two. BC.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In the return trip one Saturday at Merrimack four to one.
That's an unusual stumble for a BC team that's been
really good this year.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Very good at Holt too. That was what really shocked me.
I asked the people.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Who were there, I said, was it a World junior hangover?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Was it a first game after the break that they
their break was somewhere on forty days looked maybe a
little more than that. Or was it maybe just.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Getting to nothing lead on on Merrimack and thinking it's
going to be easy. And they said, yeah, all of that.
It was every circumstance just bubbled.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Up for PC.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And I know Greg Brown was not happy with his
team's performance, but good for Scottie Borick and Merrimack to
go on the road and get that type of victory
for them, and that if that doesn't open eyes around
Hockey East that teams that you might have started to
write off, and Merrimack might have been one of them.
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They're playing really good hockey, and here they can go
and beat arguably the best team of the country in
Boston College.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Was there a while ago that we were talking about
DC having trouble in finishing games. They were just not
putting teams away or just allowing team.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The whole runner.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
They had to have a lot of early season comebacks. Yes, yeah,
Compacks had to have comebacks.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But they've got They've played a lot of close games
and they have them. Like you said, having played for
over a month, I'm going to give them a due over.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Ed they did fall the two.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Michigan State is now number one in the pairwise, but
I'm going to give them a due over on that
because they bounced back big win for Merrimack to pull
and that you said, all eleven hockey's teams, minus their
scheduling issues, are in the top thirty.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
We already talked a little bit about U.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mass Lowell getting swept by Maine and New Hampshire dropping
two to Yukon. U mass Lowell not a team to
count out, and Derek covered that pretty well. So let's
move on to number three Minnesota a five to one
loss Friday at Ohio State. It was already a two
to nothing lead for Ohio State early in the third
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five minute major for contact of the head allowed two
more power play goals for Ohio State, which had three
in the game, but Minnesota rebounded six to one. On Saturday,
we talk about Lowell as a team that really has
researched after a bad season last year. But I think
another team that's a sleeper that people should not overlook
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as Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I was surprised to see them at nine in the pairwise,
they're pretty solid footing right now for an NCAA big
good for them because we did talk about them early
in the season to say, yeah, they're winning games. They're
winning games. Hey, that's good, that's good. They're now fifteen
to six and one. That's a fantastic record to take
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into the middle of January. And now it's Big Ten play.
They're only going to bolster their case. Wins are going
to be amplified. Losses don't hurt that much when you're
playing in the Big Ten because of how strong the
league is.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They can pull off if they were to play.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Five hundred a little bit above five hundred hockey here
in league play for the rest season they're in the tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
We were worried about them for a little bit when
they went on that little bit of a stretch where
they lost both games of Michigan State, then followed up
with losses to Princeton.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They haven't really lost much since then. Wept Penn State,
a couple.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Of wins over Notre Dame, split with Michigan but one
was in overtime, and then to split with Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
A lot of states. I think they're gonna be. I
think they're gonna make the tournament. I'm gonna buy. We're
a buy or sell on buying. Not today, I'm not.
You're writing your own segments now, Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And the Ohio State has really been helped Gunner Wilf
Fontaine coming in for his fifth year has really made
a nice difference for them up front.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And that's a player that I think a team like
Northeastern that has struggled at times offensively this season.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They miss him.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So we just had a feature on Fontaine last week
and give a read to it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Real good input from the coach and the.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Players themselves into the decision to go to Ohio State
and what that's meant to that team this year.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Number ten Saint Cloud was swept at the hands of
Minnesota Duluth two nothing in five to Saint Cloud State
now two six and zero in their last eight games.
But it seems like a story we've heard before with
Saint Cloud State having a little bit of a drop
off for a short span in January. I think that
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was the same story last year, maybe the year before that.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, it happens. Everybody's going to have their down moments
in a season. This one kind of surprised me because
I thought that really I sought to lose as a
team that was reeling and really struggling. I don't put
it past Saint Cloud noticing the team that they have
been in recent years, especially down the stretch, especially in
the tournament. I think back to the year that they
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reached the Frozen Four, a couple of them reached the
National Championship game. They're a team that just needs to
take that next step. It's a tough weekend for them,
but they can bounce back. They're still dangerous. They're always adrious.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
One more before we go to break number eighteen, Cornell
tied and lost to Sacred Heart one in four to two.
I want to mention the freshman goaltender for Sacred Heart
A G. Gundhara forty saves in that one to one tie,
and since he took over as the starting goalie, he
has a one point ninety two goals against in the
nine thirty two save percentage.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I was surprised by that, not because Sacred Heart's not
a quality opponent, I thought. After seeing Cornell in Tempe
at the Desert Classic, I thought they were gonna They
had a big comeback win over over UMass where they
were down two ongoing the third they played minus couple
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weird goals against Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I thought that Cornell was primed to run and congratulations
Sicker Heart.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
That's a massive when crowd was huge, a lot of
red in there with the Red Seats and the Red
Pioneers and the big red there. But that was a
really good weekend for the Pioneers.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And that will go on to our next segment after
the break, we'll talk about digging into the pair wise
and seeing where things stand right now, and we'll salute
an offensive juggernaut that people may not have on their radar.
That's when US Echo Weekend Review continues. We're back with
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US Echo Weekend Review. It's that time of year when
we can really look at the numbers and the pair
wise and Hockey East. Now, a few years ago, was
it three seasons ago or something like that, there were
six Hockey East teams inside the bubble going into Christmas
and we're like, this is crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
That can't stand up. It didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It was the same situation this year, but now there
are seven inside the bubble BC Main Providence, bu UMass,
lowl Yukon and you on unh The Big ten has
four Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State and Michigan, two from
the NCCHC Denver and Western Michigan, and then the other
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three leagues don't have anybody inside the bubble. Quinnipiac is
at number fifteen, they would be outside because of the
automatic bids from leagues CCHA, Minnesota State is at sixteen,
they were at twelve going into the weekend, and Atlantic
Hockey the highest right now is Bentley at number twenty six,
so that would be just the AQ in that league.
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Is this sustainable for Hockey East? I know they would
love to be able to do that. They're going to
have to start eating away at each other as the
regular season comes towards the end.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I'm impressed that we got sixteen and we don't have
Jimmy math where we.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Have eighteen nineteen twenty. But to answer your question, I
don't see that sustainable.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I see the NCC getting another team in my opinion,
maybe six Rock East, but I see the NCC getting
another one in there. Quinnipias interesting one, so is Minnesota State.
Can they climb high enough to where they can absorb
a loss and not win and have somebody else win
their league to where they're in there? And I think
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that would almost take We talked about Quinnipiac already, but
a lot of the times that's going to be winning
probably eighty to ninety percent of your games on the stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Here, I think that you're right, Derek, that six is
probably the number for hockey's But they're getting to we're
getting to a point in the season in general, February first,
it's just a couple of weeks away. You get to
February first, and you're inside the top ten, you're likely
making the NCAA tournament. Unless things go absolutely horrible in
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the last month and a quarter a month and a
half of the season, you're gonna make the NCAA tournament.
Hockey East is in that position right now where they
have five teams at least within the top Boston College two,
Main three, Providence five, Boston University eight, Loll nine ten,
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actually in.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
The Yukon eleven.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
If you get Yukon up inside there and Lowell doesn't slip,
you're talking having six teams in the top ten of
the pairwise at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Probably not going to change.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
There's not enough season left and there's not enough non
conference games left to change.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It, especially if you get to the early part of February.
If you're in there, come the beginning of February, you're
even at number what is it usually about?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
The top seven or eight or lot is usually.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
A lock by then. Yeah, it's getting close to a
lock by early February.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We're at six or seven weeks left in the regular season. Yeah,
depending on where you are, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yeah, depending on your league, the length of your playoffs. Atlantakakey,
we's got six weekends left and then we go to playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think Hockey East has seven weekends, right, they play
one more weekend because they have single elimination along the.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Way, And same thing with the NCCHC But.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The teams on the bubble are interesting, and I want
to mention the first one on here. We talked about
it on us Echo Edge on Friday.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Gym.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Arizona State is outperforming a lot of people's expectations. We
thought they would be a good team, but maybe we'd
have to adjust a bit going into the NCCHC. They're
split over the weekend with North Dakota. A decisive win
on Friday really has shown us that the Sun Devils
are for real. And they're sitting at number fourteen. That
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is basically the first team below the cut line in
the pairwise, so they've got a good opportunity there. Saint
Cloud State's at seventeen, UMass at eighteen, Wisconsin in North
Dakota tied basically at nineteen, although Wisconsin wouldn't make it
right now because they're sub five hundred. And then Augustana
at number twenty one, and they could be a surprise
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or spoiler in the CCHA and they have played very
well this season. But what about those teams, Those are
all teams we expect often to see in the tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, I want to make a note. I'll start with
just Arizona State. They are at fourteen. And this goes
to Schools's point about the ncight S probably getting one
more team in if they move up, they will not
be knocking out a team from their conference. The closest
team above them in the ncaight S is Western Michigan
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at seven, so you're not knocking Western out. So they
would be knocking a team like New Hampshire or Michigan
or Yukon or loll out if Arizona State were.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
To get into the field. It does.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I agree that I think the ncight probably will get
one more team than they currently have.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, if you look at Arizona State, you want to
start there. They got Cruz Lucius back this weekend, which
is a massive deal for them. Playoff status dot Com
has them currently with their playoffs and everything, at a
forty five percent chance of being in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So is it above fifty.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No, But there's a lot of guys that a lot
of teams that are in a lock right now in
the pairwise that we think are in a lock that
have less opportunities because of their strength of schedule, and
I use New Hampshire they're at forty four percent. You
talk about Quinnipiac they're thirty eight percent. And this also
all takes into consideration them winning their league. Yeah, Augustana
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three percent, and we're going to talk about them a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
But there's a they're the they're the ones.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Saint Cloud thirty nine percent, almost like the best of
the bubbles right now, because they.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Are on the bubble that actually the math checks.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think that what Arizona State needs to do get
a couple of sweeps in league play. That's easier said
than done. But you have to sweep the teams you're
supposed to sweep. You play in Miami, you need two
wins out of that. You play, let's say Duluth. If
I need two wins out of that, They've got to
take care of business and then split.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Earn the splits.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If you can get some extra points, four or five
points in a weekend, get it as a tie, get
it as an overtime loss and overtime win, something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Those are all acceptable.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Just make sure you're getting at least three points from
the big guys in your league. And those you know,
those are North Dakota, Denver, you know, in western Michigan
right now.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How about Wisconsin can they turn it around enough in
Big ten play to get them in a position or
are they going to have to go through the Big
Ten Championship to get there?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, three games under five hundred right now, so think
about that. They're not even eligible for not Large at
this point. So they have a lot of making up
to do to get back up, but they are there. Again,
the strength of the Big Ten, it's very similar to hockey.
East Wisconsin has struggled, but there's still nineteen in the pairwise,
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so they only have to jump a couple of teams
to get in there. But they do have to get
to five hundred or better if they want that large.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
And they're nine percent right now, and that includes their
tournament probabilities.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And you know what, I it's good to look at
the stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
It's fun to look at it, but eventually the games
were played on the ice. I think you're right, they've
got to get they've played right now, they're nine to
twelve and one, which means they only have twelve games
left and they've got to go in those twelve games,
they've got to go three over to be able to
just put themselves and at large, or they're going to
have to do in their playoffs, which is a one
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game knockout.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Correct. I think the first round is two out of
three two out of three first round, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I look at it like to get above five hundred,
they have to go eight and four in those last
twelve and I'm not sure that even pulls them into
the right side of the pairwise bubble.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And we mentioned in Augustana it's probably not a at
large route for them, as we saw just a split
on the weekend drop Minnesota State four places. But they
could be a spoiler. It looks like that league is
not going to have anybody really running away. It's not
going to have a big separation like we've seen some
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years in the CCHA. So they've got they've got the
opportunity through the league championship.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Route for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Certainly they're down in the standings right now, but they
have so many games in hand.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Every team in that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
League has played fourteen games except Augustanda, they've played eight.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
But they don't play all their games. They were added,
so they're on the they're on the they're on the percentage.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Base, so that we have to go with their winning percentage.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, so that's a winning percentage base. If you look,
what do they have a lot? They've got my quick
math here. I don't mean to cut off Jimmy, but
they glad you did. Yeah, they've got They play Fairbanks twice,
Anchorage twice, Colorado College, linden Wood, and then they've got
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six eight non eight c CHA games Lakes at Lakes
home against Lake Sapire at State, Minnesota State home against
Michigan Tech. And there's a Bowling Green in the mid
at the start of that. Home for four and away
for four. They only have eight games left. They're only
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going to play sixteen games. Their other games are linden Wood, Fairbanks, Anchorage,
Colora College.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I don't know if they've got they Actually they just
played Coloral College, so they don't have it.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I don't think they've got it in them to via
nat Lard. No.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Even sweeping those teams don't give them enough of.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I don't ask you even if you go undefeated right
two at London Wood or too at home against Londonwood
at Bowling Green two went home against Lake State at
Minnesota State Tech home, Fairbanks at home, I don't know
if there's enough juice there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Undefeated undefeated. But do it do you think so?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
You think it gets them inside the back?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
It would, it would.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
If they went out, but they don't know their own
fate in their own hands.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Jim, you did some digging, and this is an interesting
stat If you go back to the twenty thirteen to
fourteen season for ECAC when Union was the national champion
and was third in the pair wise, ECAC has not
had a team outside the top ten in the pairwise
at the end of the season, and this year it
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looks like it could be in jeopardy with Quinnipiac sitting
at number fifteen. I don't want to go through the
whole list because it's a lot of numbers to speak out,
but teams like Quinnipiac and Harvard and Cornell have all
been in the top ten and the pair wise Cornell
was number three, remember that season that ended because of COVID.
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They were a big favorite to be in the Frozen
four that year and maybe even have a shot at
the national championship.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
But it takes.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
All it takes is one team having a little bit
less than stellar year and Quinnipiack is having a good
but not great year and they're down at number fifteen.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I want to commend your first Jimmy before you touch
on this, the research, unbelievable stat that's you had a
lot of free I actually I.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Have to give credit where credits to. This actually came
from the Harvard broadcast the other night. I'm broadcasting them
tomorrow over at Boston College and we pulled this.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
From from that broadcast. This is a down line, really.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Very downline research that's called when you get into the
actual numbers here. The worst year again, out of the
last ten tournaments besides this current year was last year
when Quinnipiac was nine in the.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
In the overall pairwise, and that was.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
We're calling right, two ACAC teams Quinnipiac and Cornell was
all that got in last year.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
This is it's been.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
It's you don't realize how strong the ECAC has been
for the last decade that this hasn't been a situation
where it's been a one bid league. This has been
always a position where you have somebody, a couple of
teams in the tournament at least, but you always have
somebody that's either a number one or number two seed.
Only year again last year, and you can go back
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to twenty fourteen fifteen, Harvard was number nine and was
a number three seed. But right now you have all
you would have is one number four seed for the
conference in the NCAA tournament. That's not very easy easy light.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Before we wrap up, we want to add some congratulations
to the offensive juggernaut which is the Army Black Knights.
Just some of these numbers. Army had seven goals in
their previous eight games. They won nine to one on Friday,
thirteen to one on Saturday, so twenty two goals on
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the weekend. Some records set. Thirteen goals were a new
Atlantic Hockey record, as the previous mark was twelve. Seven
goals in the second period alone on Saturday matched the
Atlantic Hockey record that was accomplished in two thousand and eight.
They also set a record for points. The thirteen goals
and twenty four assists adds up to thirty seven points.
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Nils Vasilias had five assist and a goal, so that's
the single game highest point total from an Army skater
since nineteen ninety three, and he's also the first one
this season to record a six point game. It was
I think a combination of an Army team firing in
all cylinders and a mercy Hurst team that I've seen
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in person this year. I watched the video on Saturday.
They just look lost and listless once things broke open.
I don't know what was going on there, but holy cow,
Army just everything they were shooting was going in. And
they weren't bad shots either. There were some really nice shots,
picking corners, getting some movement in front of the goalie.
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You can't take anything away from Army on that, but
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
I watched part of the thirteen oh one game two,
and after the nine to one game, I thought, there's
this is going to turn around. You always hope that they.
As a coach, if you get win by about four
or five, you hope you saved one or two because
the next night's going to be challenging. Army gets a
goal disallowed, Mercier scores first and then it just didn't stop.
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But unbelievable offensive output for Army, and I hope they
used all their goals up because we've got them a
week from Friday, and I hope that they're go back
to their their scoring ways of scoring seven goals in
their last eight games. They could even use some I
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guarantee I Brian's going to be thinking that he's going
to on the Riley farewell to where he's going to
be on Gosh. I wish we'd only won that one
five to one and save those eight goals to use
some other time. But interesting results. We gave up fifteen
the weekend before against Arizona State, and and I don't
know how practice. I know how practice was for us
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on Monday. A lot of des on coverage. I'm sure
that's something they'll be working on in Erie today.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, a tough weekend, hear us. But you see it
every now and again. Sometimes you just throw pucks of
the net and they start going in. And I'm sure
that's what it felt like for Army those two nights.
Get get out there, get a good shot. Hey we
get a chance, Just get pucks of the net.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
They're going in.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I don't know as a coach that it's not a
bad thing to sit there and watch twenty two goals
go in, But at some point you just you almost
want to call the horses off.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's hard to.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Do, and players are going to go out and they're
gonna try not to score sometimes and They'll still end
up getting into positions that they score, but it's just
one of those weekends. I think if everything came together
for the Black Knights.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I talked to Brian and Brian said it. He goes,
we were going to spread on. We got a power play,
We're gonna spread just get time, we got pressure and
went for one in the night. It would go in
and I'd be like, oh my god, what he And
obviously Brian's been around it for a long time and
he's we've all been on the other side of it,
and you want the games ended and you feel bad.
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I know Brian was not putting his number one power
play unit out in the last in that game, but
in which I've seen done before in games like that,
where you still put your number one power play unit out,
and he wasn't doing that. Because I was watching the
game and it was I felt for Mercies because, as
somebody who has been on that side, never the game
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doesn't ever seem to end.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It just keeps going. But it's every time they score
a goal they add time to the clock.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah, an army wasn't celebrating, and it was like, can
we just play like the old youth?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Hockey. Can we go running time? Running time?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, and both teams put in substitute goalies in the
third period. The sub for Army was Jacob Burn, Marty
Baran's son who plays for Army, and he didn't give
up a goal in that So yeah, just one of
those weekends for Army. I get to celebrate some hospitality
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from Robert Morris this coming weekend.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yes, as I.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm actually going to be broadcasting four games because rit
men and women are both at Robert Morris the same weekend,
So we're going to broadcast the women's games in the
afternoon and the men's games.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
In the evening.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Looking forward to always the friendly hospitality and the new
paint job at your arena.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Derek, you're going to see an all new Islands sports center,
are you? Are you staying at Derek's house?
Speaker 6 (40:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I didn't get offered to stay at his house when
we came out. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
No, We're staying where we have. What is it, the Sheraton.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
You won't even see the hotel room. You're going to
be in the arena all day every day.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Ed's not gonna have a voice on Monday to do
this show.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's very I'm just going to do color on the
women's game, so I'll preserve a little vocal cords there.
But looking forward to seeing you, and I'm looking forward
to some good games. We hope, we hope no thirteen
to one games.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I hope unbus it's a team in white, then we
could do that.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You better save some for the rest of the season.
For Jim Connolly, for Derek Schooley. I'm Ed Trebsker and
this has been usc CHO Weekend Review
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to us Echo weekend review from Monday, January thirteenth,
twenty twenty five. I'm Hat Trevsker alongside Jim Connolly and
Derek Schooley. What a mixed week for the top twenty
in the usccho dot com Division one Men's.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ice hockey poll.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Jim and I were talking about our ballots, as were
poll voters, and after you get out of the first
seven or eight, it's tough putting a ballot together this
week because everybody else seemed to have either at best
split weekends or down weekends. But some teams had some
good weekends, and let's start with them on a positive note.
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How about May Number seven Maine after a weekend previously
splitting with Denver, swept number eight Mass Lowell and did
it on the road at Songus three to one and two, one,
three and one through those four games, and they only
gave up five goals in that too, which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I call that series against Lowell this week on television,
and I have to say that Maine is one of
the hardest working teams out there. They battle, they are heavy,
they get up the ice, and Saturday especially they had
a lot of transition, a lot of odd man and opportunities,
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but they battle and they don't allow much defensively.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And Low's two goals were both highlight reel goals.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Because that was the only thing that was going to
beat Alvin Boyer and net.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
His numbers are just fantastic this season.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think that Maine is If you don't have Maine
on your radar nationally as a team that could possibly
reach a frozen four, start considering them very seriously. This
is a really good hockey team that is right now
playing lockdown defense over the last four games.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and don't discount loll that that's a tough.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Weekend for them, but they were hot going into it
when in the tournament out in the Palm springs, the desert,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But yeah, I think that's a telling tale.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You have two top ten teams and it shows that
I think Coole is eight going in and the pair
wise and they only dropped it just a tat and
I think that shows the strength of.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Hockey East right now. What is it?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
All of the Hockey East teams are within the top
twenty nine in the pair wise right now.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's pretty impressible.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, number six Denver.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They swept Miami and NCCHC play there's just two points
out of first. Although I do want to put that
you don't want those moral victories, especially the season's been tough.
But give credit to Miami that those games were not
blowouts by Denver. That really it seemed like they could
have been. But Denver just two points out of first
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in the NCCHC. Arizona State, Western Michigan, North Dakota all
with nineteen points. But that was probably a needed weekend
for Denver. They've had some not so great weekends in
the middle of the season around the semester break they
had split with Maine and then get those two wins
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that kind of gives them a little momentum.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I feel bad for a little bit for Miami. Anthony
Norrie and they had a decent start to the air.
They've lost twelve in a row and their first games
over a month. They played the sixth, seventh and now
they're playing the tenth of the eleventh and come on
half play Denver, who's a little fired up on their
break a little bit. They battled, they competed, They're going
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to get somebody. They're not going to end the air
on a massive lose, Drek. It's going to hurt somebody,
whether it's Omha, whether it's the loot, and not to
loose because they're out of the parawise running, but they're
gonna get somebody, mark my words.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The one.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
The surprising thing is North Dakota, who we rode off
a little bit, is now in a three way tie
in first place. And Denver, who was looking to run
away with it, is now got three teams ahead of them,
and they all played I believe they've all played the
same amount of games.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So this is this is right now a big race,
and hopefully I'd.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Like to see Miami get a couple of wins or
a couple of wins down the stretch for their psyche
and morales, their building, but it might hurt somebody as well.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I had a chance to just see the Friday game,
the second and third periods of that, and I'll tell
you Miami gave Denver a lot of trouble in that game,
and that was a two to one game. Late Denver
pops a couple midway late through the third period. I
believe even the fourth goal was the empty netter I
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just I have to agree schools, but you do feel
for Miami because they played really good hockey against just
a very hungry Denver team playing at home.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's a tough building in which to win.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But you know, going to your point about the NCC
standings right now, that is going to be a little
accordion at the top. Six point weekends will be the
most valued commodity out there. Four point weekends probably feel
good in the NCCHC right now because you're gaining. You
just can't have lost weekends. If you're one of those
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four teams you mentioned, they can't have any lost weekends.
That feels like a force and that's going to make
a run for the NCC regular season crown, and no mistakes,
there's no room because somebody will really take advantage of
six point week an you could just separate yourself from
this pack.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What do you think of Colorado College? Ed or Jimmy
whoever wants to touch that one?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I noted that one in our do over section.
We hadn't mentioned it, but Omaha swept the number thirteen
c s at home. Colorado College now ten nine and one,
meaning after an eight no start, they've gone two nine
and one.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's it's crazy. That one really surprised me.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And I know that we looked at their schedule early
and we said, oh, hey there eight No, but have
they played, did they have any really.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Super quality wins?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And what would it be like when they got to
the league played League play has really jumped up and
did Colorado College, and then it's trickled into any of
the non league games that they played around it. So
they're struggling right now. And I think we mentioned this
last week. They're struggling. We don't know if this extenuating
circumstances in terms of injuries or something. But it was
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a good start for them, and that that was the
field story. It was a good start for Denver, and
we thought they might run away with the conference.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Everything defeated.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, there was undefeated for so long and they that
streak went way back to last season, and everybody just
wanted to talk about the streak. Once it broke, it
snapped and now they're back on the right track. But
there was three lean weeks for them in a row.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
B you got a little bit of a shot in
the arm a big offensive weekend in a sweep over
Vermont six to one and seven for at home.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
BU is now.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Alone in second place in Hockey East and then they're
just a point behind Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that was a good good weekend for BU.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean, guys like Cole Iersen been back from World Junior.
He put a put three in on Saturday night in
that seven, seven to four game. That was kind of
a crazy game with Vermont there. I still think there's
some steps BU has to take. I'm sure j pandolf
will liked scoring thirteen goals, probably didn't like giving a
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four on Saturday in a game. It probably became more
of a track meet than it was a hockey games.
I still think BU has room to grow, but this
is a good start.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Seeing the puck pop.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
In the net the way it did and being reunited
as a team after World Juniors, that has to feel
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah, to have a bounce back after a disappointing Yale weekend.
We're looking they were like falling down into the teens thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen in the pairwise.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now they've climbed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, that's a big weekend for them to get right
in their schedule gets a little bit harder coming up
New Hampshire harder DC circle that one two weeks away,
then New Hampshire again.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Schedule. This is a tough little stretch.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
For BU coming up, and that BC weekend is obviously
everybody circles that in their calendar around those both campuses.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We were talking about it.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was talking about with another coach, and it's really weird.
You play teams you got this big league and then
you play a team twice within three weeks, three games
within I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I'm scheduling sometimes, I know that you have to put
people in different spots. But they just played. They're gonna
play New Hampshire January seventeenth, eighteen. They shouldn't play them
again on January thirty and little pet peeve of mine
and we've started.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
The person that takes care of that probably is going
to listen to this. So but I don't. He doesn't
do the schedule. He Steve doesn't do that. Come on, Steve,
you're not if you're better than that, if you do it.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Let's look at Quinnipiac.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's not been a great season for the Bobcats, but
they did pick up three wins this week. The number
twenty Quinnipiac Bobcats beating Stonehill in the middle of the
week six to one, and then they swept their travel
partner in the ECAC. That's Princeton four to two and
three to nothing. There are six points ahead of Clarkson
in the ECAC standings. But as we'll get into their
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right on the borderline in the pair wise, not a
great year for ECAC, but some needed wins for Rand
Pecknold's Bobcats.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Any this is the dream of Christmas break right. You
have a good focus of your players and sometimes you
get three games in a week and you can win
all three.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's one of those dream scenarios.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I'm sure Ran Pecknoll circled this week on the calendar
saying we need to get all three. They do that,
They take care of business and now they're back in.
This is a team that was dropping in the pair
wise and you know they're still technically on the outside
looking in. We'll get into that the second half of
the show. But I think that this is a positive sign.
I feel like Quinnipiac has gotten a lot of what
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ails them out of their system and they're starting to
play some of their best hockey weird.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Seven of their last eight games are wins, and we're
talking about just being on the cut line. One of
those was in overtime and the other one was a
lost Northeastern, But the wins a win. They barely came
back and beat Aic when they were up five to one,
Aiic tied it, they scored a late goal, and then
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they won a whole bunch of hockey games, won seven
of eight and they're only at fifteen right now.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So I'm worried about that. I know we're going to
get into it. I'm worried with.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The loss down to somebody in the twenties or thirties
might put them in a precarious position.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The next team making a good case for themselves in
the top twenty. In fact, they should show up in
the poll this week is Connecticut. Yukon had a two
game sweep of number seventeen New Hampshire four to one
and three one, so they picked up six points in
league standings and leapt from sixth place to third place,
and leapt from sixth place to third place in Hockey East.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
That was a huge weekend and the way New Hampshire
was playing coming in they had put themselves into a
pairwise position and they're still in pretty good They're still
inside the cut line and the pairwise but they are
at the bottom of the Hockey East standings. They had
the least number of games played. They were looking to
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win some league games to move up, and now hear
that it becomes a lost weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But good for Yukon.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's a team now that suddenly is they're trying to
change their fate a little bit and they have moved
into the top twelve in the pairwise. Suddenly, this Yukon
team that I think a lot of people in Hockey
East at least were ready to write off, they're now
playing their best hockey and making a case for themselves
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to be a top fourteen in Hockey East, be a
team that makes the NCAA tournament for the first time.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This is all.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Coming off of really just one really good weekend, and
that's what what can happen at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I think we're gonna see a top a couple of
battles here.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Nobody's surprised by this. With their new building and the
brand name of Yukon, nobody was surprised by it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Or surprised the other way schools, to be honest, when
they were having some struggles, I felt like a couple
of years ago they got on the right path, didn't
struggle a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So I'm not surprised. I agree with you. Yeah, nobody's surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Nobody's surprised that they're with the new building they've got
in the campus that you cround, the brand recognition. Mike
Cavanough was a high level recruiter at Boston College. Nobody's surprised,
but I think one thing you're a c Another one
to circle that we'll talk about next week is Yukon.
That name coming up this week, followed by the Connectic
at ice. How big is that Quinnipiac Yukon game going
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to be.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
For the Bobcats. We just talked about them. How big
is that?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You're talking about two teams twelve or eleven and fifteen
right now.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a massive game there as well. Yeah, for both teams.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, it'll be the winner of that they could they
certainly boost their case their resume, but the loser could
slip a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's something you're going to have to keep an eye on.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Some teams.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Wish they could do the weekend over number two Boston College.
They were up to nothing at home on Friday and
then Merrimack got the last five goals in the game.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
To win five to two. BC.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In the return trip one Saturday at Merrimack four to one.
That's an unusual stumble for a BC team that's been
really good this year.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Very good at Holt too. That was what really shocked me.
I asked the people.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Who were there, I said, was it a World junior hangover?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Was it a first game after the break that they
their break was somewhere on forty days looked maybe a
little more than that. Or was it maybe just.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Getting to nothing lead on on Merrimack and thinking it's
going to be easy. And they said, yeah, all of that.
It was every circumstance just bubbled.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Up for PC.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And I know Greg Brown was not happy with his
team's performance, but good for Scottie Borick and Merrimack to
go on the road and get that type of victory
for them, and that if that doesn't open eyes around
Hockey East that teams that you might have started to
write off, and Merrimack might have been one of them.
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They're playing really good hockey, and here they can go
and beat arguably the best team of the country in
Boston College.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Was there a while ago that we were talking about
DC having trouble in finishing games. They were just not
putting teams away or just allowing team.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The whole runner.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
They had to have a lot of early season comebacks. Yes, yeah,
Compacks had to have comebacks.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But they've got They've played a lot of close games
and they have them. Like you said, having played for
over a month, I'm going to give them a due over.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Ed they did fall the two.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Michigan State is now number one in the pairwise, but
I'm going to give them a due over on that
because they bounced back big win for Merrimack to pull
and that you said, all eleven hockey's teams, minus their
scheduling issues, are in the top thirty.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
We already talked a little bit about U.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mass Lowell getting swept by Maine and New Hampshire dropping
two to Yukon. U mass Lowell not a team to
count out, and Derek covered that pretty well. So let's
move on to number three Minnesota a five to one
loss Friday at Ohio State. It was already a two
to nothing lead for Ohio State early in the third
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five minute major for contact of the head allowed two
more power play goals for Ohio State, which had three
in the game, but Minnesota rebounded six to one. On Saturday,
we talk about Lowell as a team that really has
researched after a bad season last year. But I think
another team that's a sleeper that people should not overlook
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as Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I was surprised to see them at nine in the pairwise,
they're pretty solid footing right now for an NCAA big
good for them because we did talk about them early
in the season to say, yeah, they're winning games. They're
winning games. Hey, that's good, that's good. They're now fifteen
to six and one. That's a fantastic record to take
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into the middle of January. And now it's Big Ten play.
They're only going to bolster their case. Wins are going
to be amplified. Losses don't hurt that much when you're
playing in the Big Ten because of how strong the
league is.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They can pull off if they were to play.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Five hundred a little bit above five hundred hockey here
in league play for the rest season they're in the tournament.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
We were worried about them for a little bit when
they went on that little bit of a stretch where
they lost both games of Michigan State, then followed up
with losses to Princeton.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They haven't really lost much since then. Wept Penn State,
a couple.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Of wins over Notre Dame, split with Michigan but one
was in overtime, and then to split with Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
A lot of states. I think they're gonna be. I
think they're gonna make the tournament. I'm gonna buy. We're
a buy or sell on buying. Not today, I'm not.
You're writing your own segments now, Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And the Ohio State has really been helped Gunner Wilf
Fontaine coming in for his fifth year has really made
a nice difference for them up front.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And that's a player that I think a team like
Northeastern that has struggled at times offensively this season.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They miss him.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So we just had a feature on Fontaine last week
and give a read to it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Real good input from the coach and the.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Players themselves into the decision to go to Ohio State
and what that's meant to that team this year.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Number ten Saint Cloud was swept at the hands of
Minnesota Duluth two nothing in five to Saint Cloud State
now two six and zero in their last eight games.
But it seems like a story we've heard before with
Saint Cloud State having a little bit of a drop
off for a short span in January. I think that
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was the same story last year, maybe the year before that.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, it happens. Everybody's going to have their down moments
in a season. This one kind of surprised me because
I thought that really I sought to lose as a
team that was reeling and really struggling. I don't put
it past Saint Cloud noticing the team that they have
been in recent years, especially down the stretch, especially in
the tournament. I think back to the year that they
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reached the Frozen Four, a couple of them reached the
National Championship game. They're a team that just needs to
take that next step. It's a tough weekend for them,
but they can bounce back. They're still dangerous. They're always adrious.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
One more before we go to break number eighteen, Cornell
tied and lost to Sacred Heart one in four to two.
I want to mention the freshman goaltender for Sacred Heart
A G. Gundhara forty saves in that one to one tie,
and since he took over as the starting goalie, he
has a one point ninety two goals against in the
nine thirty two save percentage.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I was surprised by that, not because Sacred Heart's not
a quality opponent, I thought. After seeing Cornell in Tempe
at the Desert Classic, I thought they were gonna They
had a big comeback win over over UMass where they
were down two ongoing the third they played minus couple
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weird goals against Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I thought that Cornell was primed to run and congratulations
Sicker Heart.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
That's a massive when crowd was huge, a lot of
red in there with the Red Seats and the Red
Pioneers and the big red there. But that was a
really good weekend for the Pioneers.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And that will go on to our next segment after
the break, we'll talk about digging into the pair wise
and seeing where things stand right now, and we'll salute
an offensive juggernaut that people may not have on their radar.
That's when US Echo Weekend Review continues. We're back with
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US Echo Weekend Review. It's that time of year when
we can really look at the numbers and the pair
wise and Hockey East. Now, a few years ago, was
it three seasons ago or something like that, there were
six Hockey East teams inside the bubble going into Christmas
and we're like, this is crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
That can't stand up. It didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It was the same situation this year, but now there
are seven inside the bubble BC Main Providence, bu UMass,
lowl Yukon and you on unh The Big ten has
four Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State and Michigan, two from
the NCCHC Denver and Western Michigan, and then the other
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three leagues don't have anybody inside the bubble. Quinnipiac is
at number fifteen, they would be outside because of the
automatic bids from leagues CCHA, Minnesota State is at sixteen,
they were at twelve going into the weekend, and Atlantic
Hockey the highest right now is Bentley at number twenty six,
so that would be just the AQ in that league.
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Is this sustainable for Hockey East? I know they would
love to be able to do that. They're going to
have to start eating away at each other as the
regular season comes towards the end.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I'm impressed that we got sixteen and we don't have
Jimmy math where we.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Have eighteen nineteen twenty. But to answer your question, I
don't see that sustainable.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I see the NCC getting another team in my opinion,
maybe six Rock East, but I see the NCC getting
another one in there. Quinnipias interesting one, so is Minnesota State.
Can they climb high enough to where they can absorb
a loss and not win and have somebody else win
their league to where they're in there? And I think
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that would almost take We talked about Quinnipiac already, but
a lot of the times that's going to be winning
probably eighty to ninety percent of your games on the stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Here, I think that you're right, Derek, that six is
probably the number for hockey's But they're getting to we're
getting to a point in the season in general, February first,
it's just a couple of weeks away. You get to
February first, and you're inside the top ten, you're likely
making the NCAA tournament. Unless things go absolutely horrible in
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the last month and a quarter a month and a
half of the season, you're gonna make the NCAA tournament.
Hockey East is in that position right now where they
have five teams at least within the top Boston College two,
Main three, Providence five, Boston University eight, Loll nine ten,
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actually in.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
The Yukon eleven.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
If you get Yukon up inside there and Lowell doesn't slip,
you're talking having six teams in the top ten of
the pairwise at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Probably not going to change.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
There's not enough season left and there's not enough non
conference games left to change.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It, especially if you get to the early part of February.
If you're in there, come the beginning of February, you're
even at number what is it usually about?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
The top seven or eight or lot is usually.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
A lock by then. Yeah, it's getting close to a
lock by early February.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We're at six or seven weeks left in the regular season. Yeah,
depending on where you are, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yeah, depending on your league, the length of your playoffs. Atlantakakey,
we's got six weekends left and then we go to playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think Hockey East has seven weekends, right, they play
one more weekend because they have single elimination along the.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Way, And same thing with the NCCHC But.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The teams on the bubble are interesting, and I want
to mention the first one on here. We talked about
it on us Echo Edge on Friday.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Gym.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Arizona State is outperforming a lot of people's expectations. We
thought they would be a good team, but maybe we'd
have to adjust a bit going into the NCCHC. They're
split over the weekend with North Dakota. A decisive win
on Friday really has shown us that the Sun Devils
are for real. And they're sitting at number fourteen. That
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is basically the first team below the cut line in
the pairwise, so they've got a good opportunity there. Saint
Cloud State's at seventeen, UMass at eighteen, Wisconsin in North
Dakota tied basically at nineteen, although Wisconsin wouldn't make it
right now because they're sub five hundred. And then Augustana
at number twenty one, and they could be a surprise
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or spoiler in the CCHA and they have played very
well this season. But what about those teams, Those are
all teams we expect often to see in the tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, I want to make a note. I'll start with
just Arizona State. They are at fourteen. And this goes
to Schools's point about the ncight S probably getting one
more team in if they move up, they will not
be knocking out a team from their conference. The closest
team above them in the ncaight S is Western Michigan
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at seven, so you're not knocking Western out. So they
would be knocking a team like New Hampshire or Michigan
or Yukon or loll out if Arizona State were.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
To get into the field. It does.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I agree that I think the ncight probably will get
one more team than they currently have.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, if you look at Arizona State, you want to
start there. They got Cruz Lucius back this weekend, which
is a massive deal for them. Playoff status dot Com
has them currently with their playoffs and everything, at a
forty five percent chance of being in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So is it above fifty.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No, But there's a lot of guys that a lot
of teams that are in a lock right now in
the pairwise that we think are in a lock that
have less opportunities because of their strength of schedule, and
I use New Hampshire they're at forty four percent. You
talk about Quinnipiac they're thirty eight percent. And this also
all takes into consideration them winning their league. Yeah, Augustana
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three percent, and we're going to talk about them a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
But there's a they're the they're the ones.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Saint Cloud thirty nine percent, almost like the best of
the bubbles right now, because they.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Are on the bubble that actually the math checks.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think that what Arizona State needs to do get
a couple of sweeps in league play. That's easier said
than done. But you have to sweep the teams you're
supposed to sweep. You play in Miami, you need two
wins out of that. You play, let's say Duluth. If
I need two wins out of that, They've got to
take care of business and then split.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Earn the splits.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If you can get some extra points, four or five
points in a weekend, get it as a tie, get
it as an overtime loss and overtime win, something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Those are all acceptable.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Just make sure you're getting at least three points from
the big guys in your league. And those you know,
those are North Dakota, Denver, you know, in western Michigan
right now.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How about Wisconsin can they turn it around enough in
Big ten play to get them in a position or
are they going to have to go through the Big
Ten Championship to get there?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, three games under five hundred right now, so think
about that. They're not even eligible for not Large at
this point. So they have a lot of making up
to do to get back up, but they are there. Again,
the strength of the Big Ten, it's very similar to hockey.
East Wisconsin has struggled, but there's still nineteen in the pairwise,
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so they only have to jump a couple of teams
to get in there. But they do have to get
to five hundred or better if they want that large.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
And they're nine percent right now, and that includes their
tournament probabilities.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And you know what, I it's good to look at
the stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
It's fun to look at it, but eventually the games
were played on the ice. I think you're right, they've
got to get they've played right now, they're nine to
twelve and one, which means they only have twelve games
left and they've got to go in those twelve games,
they've got to go three over to be able to
just put themselves and at large, or they're going to
have to do in their playoffs, which is a one
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game knockout.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Correct. I think the first round is two out of
three two out of three first round, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I look at it like to get above five hundred,
they have to go eight and four in those last
twelve and I'm not sure that even pulls them into
the right side of the pairwise bubble.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And we mentioned in Augustana it's probably not a at
large route for them, as we saw just a split
on the weekend drop Minnesota State four places. But they
could be a spoiler. It looks like that league is
not going to have anybody really running away. It's not
going to have a big separation like we've seen some
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years in the CCHA. So they've got they've got the
opportunity through the league championship.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Route for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Certainly they're down in the standings right now, but they
have so many games in hand.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Every team in that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
League has played fourteen games except Augustanda, they've played eight.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
But they don't play all their games. They were added,
so they're on the they're on the they're on the percentage.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Base, so that we have to go with their winning percentage.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, so that's a winning percentage base. If you look,
what do they have a lot? They've got my quick
math here. I don't mean to cut off Jimmy, but
they glad you did. Yeah, they've got They play Fairbanks twice,
Anchorage twice, Colorado College, linden Wood, and then they've got
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six eight non eight c CHA games Lakes at Lakes
home against Lake Sapire at State, Minnesota State home against
Michigan Tech. And there's a Bowling Green in the mid
at the start of that. Home for four and away
for four. They only have eight games left. They're only
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going to play sixteen games. Their other games are linden Wood, Fairbanks, Anchorage,
Colora College.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I don't know if they've got they Actually they just
played Coloral College, so they don't have it.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I don't think they've got it in them to via
nat Lard. No.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Even sweeping those teams don't give them enough of.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I don't ask you even if you go undefeated right
two at London Wood or too at home against Londonwood
at Bowling Green two went home against Lake State at
Minnesota State Tech home, Fairbanks at home, I don't know
if there's enough juice there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Undefeated undefeated. But do it do you think so?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
You think it gets them inside the back?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
It would, it would.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
If they went out, but they don't know their own
fate in their own hands.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Jim, you did some digging, and this is an interesting
stat If you go back to the twenty thirteen to
fourteen season for ECAC when Union was the national champion
and was third in the pair wise, ECAC has not
had a team outside the top ten in the pairwise
at the end of the season, and this year it
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looks like it could be in jeopardy with Quinnipiac sitting
at number fifteen. I don't want to go through the
whole list because it's a lot of numbers to speak out,
but teams like Quinnipiac and Harvard and Cornell have all
been in the top ten and the pair wise Cornell
was number three, remember that season that ended because of COVID.
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They were a big favorite to be in the Frozen
four that year and maybe even have a shot at
the national championship.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
But it takes.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
All it takes is one team having a little bit
less than stellar year and Quinnipiack is having a good
but not great year and they're down at number fifteen.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I want to commend your first Jimmy before you touch
on this, the research, unbelievable stat that's you had a
lot of free I actually I.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Have to give credit where credits to. This actually came
from the Harvard broadcast the other night. I'm broadcasting them
tomorrow over at Boston College and we pulled this.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
From from that broadcast. This is a down line, really.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Very downline research that's called when you get into the
actual numbers here. The worst year again, out of the
last ten tournaments besides this current year was last year
when Quinnipiac was nine in the.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
In the overall pairwise, and that was.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
We're calling right, two ACAC teams Quinnipiac and Cornell was
all that got in last year.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
This is it's been.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
It's you don't realize how strong the ECAC has been
for the last decade that this hasn't been a situation
where it's been a one bid league. This has been
always a position where you have somebody, a couple of
teams in the tournament at least, but you always have
somebody that's either a number one or number two seed.
Only year again last year, and you can go back
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to twenty fourteen fifteen, Harvard was number nine and was
a number three seed. But right now you have all
you would have is one number four seed for the
conference in the NCAA tournament. That's not very easy easy light.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Before we wrap up, we want to add some congratulations
to the offensive juggernaut which is the Army Black Knights.
Just some of these numbers. Army had seven goals in
their previous eight games. They won nine to one on Friday,
thirteen to one on Saturday, so twenty two goals on
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the weekend. Some records set. Thirteen goals were a new
Atlantic Hockey record, as the previous mark was twelve. Seven
goals in the second period alone on Saturday matched the
Atlantic Hockey record that was accomplished in two thousand and eight.
They also set a record for points. The thirteen goals
and twenty four assists adds up to thirty seven points.
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Nils Vasilias had five assist and a goal, so that's
the single game highest point total from an Army skater
since nineteen ninety three, and he's also the first one
this season to record a six point game. It was
I think a combination of an Army team firing in
all cylinders and a mercy Hurst team that I've seen
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in person this year. I watched the video on Saturday.
They just look lost and listless once things broke open.
I don't know what was going on there, but holy cow,
Army just everything they were shooting was going in. And
they weren't bad shots either. There were some really nice shots,
picking corners, getting some movement in front of the goalie.
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You can't take anything away from Army on that, but
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
I watched part of the thirteen oh one game two,
and after the nine to one game, I thought, there's
this is going to turn around. You always hope that they.
As a coach, if you get win by about four
or five, you hope you saved one or two because
the next night's going to be challenging. Army gets a
goal disallowed, Mercier scores first and then it just didn't stop.
(37:09):
But unbelievable offensive output for Army, and I hope they
used all their goals up because we've got them a
week from Friday, and I hope that they're go back
to their their scoring ways of scoring seven goals in
their last eight games. They could even use some I
(37:30):
guarantee I Brian's going to be thinking that he's going
to on the Riley farewell to where he's going to
be on Gosh. I wish we'd only won that one
five to one and save those eight goals to use
some other time. But interesting results. We gave up fifteen
the weekend before against Arizona State, and and I don't
know how practice. I know how practice was for us
(37:51):
on Monday. A lot of des on coverage. I'm sure
that's something they'll be working on in Erie today.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, a tough weekend, hear us. But you see it
every now and again. Sometimes you just throw pucks of
the net and they start going in. And I'm sure
that's what it felt like for Army those two nights.
Get get out there, get a good shot. Hey we
get a chance, Just get pucks of the net.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
They're going in.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I don't know as a coach that it's not a
bad thing to sit there and watch twenty two goals
go in, But at some point you just you almost
want to call the horses off.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's hard to.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Do, and players are going to go out and they're
gonna try not to score sometimes and They'll still end
up getting into positions that they score, but it's just
one of those weekends. I think if everything came together
for the Black Knights.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I talked to Brian and Brian said it. He goes,
we were going to spread on. We got a power play,
We're gonna spread just get time, we got pressure and
went for one in the night. It would go in
and I'd be like, oh my god, what he And
obviously Brian's been around it for a long time and
he's we've all been on the other side of it,
and you want the games ended and you feel bad.
(39:02):
I know Brian was not putting his number one power
play unit out in the last in that game, but
in which I've seen done before in games like that,
where you still put your number one power play unit out,
and he wasn't doing that. Because I was watching the
game and it was I felt for Mercies because, as
somebody who has been on that side, never the game
(39:23):
doesn't ever seem to end.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It just keeps going. But it's every time they score
a goal they add time to the clock.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah, an army wasn't celebrating, and it was like, can
we just play like the old youth?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Hockey. Can we go running time? Running time?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, and both teams put in substitute goalies in the
third period. The sub for Army was Jacob Burn, Marty
Baran's son who plays for Army, and he didn't give
up a goal in that So yeah, just one of
those weekends for Army. I get to celebrate some hospitality
(40:00):
from Robert Morris this coming weekend.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yes, as I.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm actually going to be broadcasting four games because rit
men and women are both at Robert Morris the same weekend,
So we're going to broadcast the women's games in the
afternoon and the men's games.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
In the evening.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Looking forward to always the friendly hospitality and the new
paint job at your arena.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Derek, you're going to see an all new Islands sports center,
are you? Are you staying at Derek's house?
Speaker 6 (40:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I didn't get offered to stay at his house when
we came out. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
No, We're staying where we have. What is it, the Sheraton.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
You won't even see the hotel room. You're going to
be in the arena all day every day.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Ed's not gonna have a voice on Monday to do
this show.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's very I'm just going to do color on the
women's game, so I'll preserve a little vocal cords there.
But looking forward to seeing you, and I'm looking forward
to some good games. We hope, we hope no thirteen
to one games.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I hope unbus it's a team in white, then we
could do that.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You better save some for the rest of the season.
For Jim Connolly, for Derek Schooley. I'm Ed Trebsker and
this has been usc CHO Weekend Review
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