December 10, 2025 • 27 mins
Hosts Jim Connelly (@jimmyconnelly), Derek Schooley (@derekschooley), and Ed Trefzger (@EdTrefzger) look at sometimes controversial or overlooked topics in our midweek episode called Upon Further Review.
In this episode, we look at teams that are ranked in the USCHO poll much lower than in the NPI and also the opposite, the teams poll voters love but the computer doesn't. We give our take on which is closer at assessing the teams at the season's midpoint.
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In this episode, we look at teams that are ranked in the USCHO poll much lower than in the NPI and also the opposite, the teams poll voters love but the computer doesn't. We give our take on which is closer at assessing the teams at the season's midpoint.
This episode is sponsored by the NCAA Men's Frozen Four, April 9 and 11 in Las Vegas. Tickets: https://ncaa.com/mfrozenfour
Find all of our podcasts at USCHO.com/podcasts
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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I'm ed Trevskier alongside Jim Connley and Derek Scooley and gentlemen,
we're taking a look at the poll versus the NPI
gaps and we're going to take a look at who
we trust more and what's going on with it right now.
We'll start out with Dartmouth. They have been the darlings
(00:55):
it seems on our podcat podcast and what a great
story with them at ten and oh well, in the
poll on Monday they were number eight and they're number
one on Monday in the NPI, So it's a gap
of seven. Who do you trust more?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In this one? The poll voters were the np I
trust the NPI on this one. There's no dough do
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We talked about this a little at the end of
Monday's podcast that sometimes the poll voters really are brand recognizing,
and I think that this is an example of the
opposite of that. The Dartmouth not a team that's always
up there, so you don't have that brand recognition. Thus
they're not giving them the respect that they probably deserve
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right now.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I think it's between.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I really believe that it's more of the NPI. I
think there's somewhere around four or five, if I'm a
betting man, somewhere between where we have them at eight
and one, somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Do you think then schools that there were a number
one scene come in caa tournament time.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Where are we getting a little too ahead of ourselves?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very close? Very close?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow, we get to school admit.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Getting they're good.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I just I think that I think that we've just
we've been We've been pumping their tires so so much
that if you throw one loss in there, I hate
hate to see where the NPI is going to take them,
then it may be closer to where you're absolutely come
closer to where the poll thinks they are.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I think you're absolutely right on that, because your strength
of schedule counts for like three quarters of that number,
and so your your own record right now. When you
have a one thousand record that bumps you up, you
get a loss or two in there that's going to
pull that down. I'm going to say somewhere in between.
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I wouldn't I wouldn't feel too badly about them. It's
like a five or six right now, although we haven't
seen them against competition in those positions. But we got
a few more to go through here in the first half,
which is teams that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The NPI likes.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
More than the pole, and that's Minnesota State. They're number
fourteen in the poll.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This week.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
They had a weekend split number nine in the NPI,
not a huge gap about five, which one's more on
the money.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think that this one is so close that I,
you know, I don't mind trusting a poll in this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know, the NPI sees this. I we'll see where
the CCHA is.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
NPI kind of rolls throughout the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Will this go down.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I see Minnesota State probably as a tournament team. I
don't know that I consider them a number one or
a number two seed, but I think they'll make the tournament.
So I see them right now. I think there are
a three seed in the NCAA tournament, which puts them
around twelve thirteen.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
In the poll.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I agree with Jimmy on that one.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Look at that we're having like this Kumba Yanau, we
would go there.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know, I don't know if I can stomach it. Yeah,
that seems about right for them. Cornell not a huge gap.
They picked up a little bit in Monday's pool. So
they're number seventeen in the US Echo poll and fourteenth
in the NPI, so the gap is only about three.
I'm gonna start on this one. I think that they're
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so close together. They're about right, but I think I
lean more towards seventeen than fourteen.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I think that this is going to be a
They're going to be a bubble team. So it's either
going to be winning the ECAC or sitting around the bubble.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's where I see them come seasons end.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I think they're more a I think they're more a
seventeen team than a fourteen team.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I don't have a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, then we also have some teams before we go
down the other one. So this question, is Cornell the
safest non Dartmouth ec see bet by March?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Meaning are they more.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Likely to make it than Quinnipiac, which has had a
few bumps along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, that's a good question. That's that's what you just
That was in the show notes. That's that's thermally we
all the notes.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, you're right, But I mean, I guess I look
at Yeah, I think Cornell is probably a little closer.
Quinnipiac is a good team, but Quinnepiac is not consistent
enough that I can say that I believe that they're
an NCAA tournament team yet.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But I that's a really good, good something that's something
to watch as we get into the second half.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Or Union, what about Union? See? I like Union.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
You know, the Union lost to Princeton on Friday. I
like Princeton. This I don't know. I think the ac
AC is the conference for me right now. That has
to I need a little bit more time. Maybe it
is the late starting ivs in the fact that the
ivy's when you look at Harvest, Harvard, Cornell, Prince and
even you know they start so late. Maybe I just
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feel like I'm behind on making a good judgment on
the ECAC because of the late IVY star I need
a three headed coin here, because I was gonna flip
it between between Cornell at Quinnipiac, but then you just
throw Harvard out there.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We're just completely forgetting about Harvard at ten, I mean
at ten right now. I mean, I think that's the
big one there that everybody's we're talking right now about
Cornell and Quinnipiac.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Harvard's ten, and Harvard came into the poll on Monday
at number eighteen, so they're part of that list where
the NPI is liking them more than the poll.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But yeah, watch out for Harvard.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How about some other ones though, that are doing well
in the NPI and either getting a smattering of poll
voting points or nothing. Augustana thirteenth in the NPI the
receiving votes, lynden Wood is number seventeen, they're getting no votes.
And holy Cross at number twenty two, got twenty points
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in this week's and probably still the team to beat
in Atlanta Hockey. Any of those have real staying power
as a tournament level team. I mean, I guess the
question is can they stay in around the bubble? Can
holy Cross get to the bubble or is this going
to be something where they have to win the league,
and in lynden Wood's case, they don't have that option.
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They've just got to They've just got to hope they
get up to like number thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If Lyndenwood doesn't make many mistakes in the second half,
they can ride that independent schedule in success within the
independent schedule, inter possibly an at large big I think
that that is certainly the team that you just mentioned.
Of the team as you mentioned, that's the one that
is way off in terms of the respect they're getting
(07:57):
from the pollsters. I look at Augustan two was as
almost in that same category. They're just ahead. I mean,
they're thirteen. They were in the tournament today. If we
were doing bracketology right now, we'd be looking at August
stander in the field. So I think that that's another
team they need a little bit more love from the
poll voters.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I know, the next six games on london Wood, this
is what the london Wood. You're gonna know the next
six They got at Maine, right for these two games,
then you've got Kenisius at home, and then you've got
at the luth and they've got one. They've got to
win their two home games, and I think they've got.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If they can go three.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And one with Maine and the luth and then not
maybe just have one hiccup with a last us at
stone Hill and Anchorage, then they're done.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Then they have their their their cup.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I mean I talked to Keith Fisher last week and
we were joking how they were in the tournament. And
then they lost the one game to Long Island. They
fell the nineteenth. They didn't even play last weekend. They
climbed to seventeenth. That's because they had some pretty good
results earlier in the year where they beat Denver. Denver
just won, I mean Wisconsin. Continuing to win helps them.
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I mean, they beat Lake Superior twice, they lost in
overtime twice to Miami. They swept Parris, who had a
big win. I mean, so they're doing some things. If
they can go and go three and one on the
road against Maine and Minnesotada Luth and sweep Canecius at home,
watch out for the for the Lions potentially, But then
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they've got stone Hill at home, at Alaska at stone
Hill and Anchorage at home where they can't afford They
may me afford one, but they can't afford too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't see them going three and one against Maine
in Duluth.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Though there are a lot they're a lot better than
people are giving credit.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Ask Denver, do you think? Ask Denver? They Denver?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
They I mean they beat Denver, they beat swept Lake Superior.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
They had Wisconsin tight. I mean they they did it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And Maine is reeling right now. They struggled to score
this weekend against you and Age. They are a great team.
They've lost four times at home already this season.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They have the old Penn State formula of just getting
the forty to fifty shots, of throwing pucks at the net,
creating rebounds and being really simplistic offensive.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
And they got good goaltending.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
They got a kid from the ushl on a transfer
from Duluth. You don't think he's going to be excited
to play at the Louth.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh good point, Well, you know it's that would be
quite the story the first year of the NPI getting
an independent in there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Blow the NPI up before they get rolling.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The bath is better.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh yeah, blow it up.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But they'll start turning those dials there, because that's what
happened with the pair wise when results didn't show what
they wanted, they tinkered. I bet you that's going to
be that with the NPI, they get results they don't want.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh, we got to turn those little dials.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm being a little bit cynical there, but you know
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And we're back with USCCHO. Upon further review, there's some
teams that are doing better in the poll, much better
in the poll than the NPI in some cases.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And one of them's Main.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We talked about that on Monday, mentioned it a little
bit one nothing in three to one or was it
three to two, one two, three to two, So two
losses to unranked New Hampshire who did get some votes
in the poll. This week, Main drops the number fifteen
in the poll. Not a huge drop because everybody else
in that range had some difficult weekends or we're off,
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but they're number forty in the NPI. So the gap
there is twenty five. The poll thinks they're in the
vicinity of a team in the playoffs, but the NPI says,
no way, You're not even close. They really got to
turn things around to get back. Can do the range
(13:01):
of an at large.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I mean the first half we talked about the
you know, the lack of respect.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
For the poll.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is the poll giving way too much respect and
this is brand name respect for me, and.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It has happened quickly for me.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
They had some great wins there.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I go back to that BU series at Home where
they swept I think a lot that built them a
lot of the good momentum on their side. Didn't they
lose to Vermont, then they get swept by you and
age they should have fallen quicker.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I guess you can look at it. Not as you said.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The teams from say ten to twenty, and even some
of the teams that were in the receiving Vogue categories
didn't exactly excel this weekend. But right now, way too
high of a value on Maine. I think, to be
honest with you, knowing Ben Barr, he'd probably tell you
that the Pole is grossly overvaluing his team right now.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean it is.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And like I said, we're talking about lendon Wood potentially
going in and catching them at a reeling time, and yeah,
I think that shouldn't They shouldn't be we shouldn't be
talking about that. So yeah, grossly overvaluing Maine right this second.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Next done list is Boston University BU hung on at
number twenty in the poll, which is where I had
them on my ballot this week. The NPI is thirty three,
so it's thirteen. They started out at number two in
the preseason poll, and you know, we're close to a
national championship last year. The poll voters still giving them
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some credit saying, well, got to keep them on my
ballot somewhere, But the NPI says they're nowhere near close
to having a tournament resume.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
They actually concerned me more than Maine.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Having seen both of those teams play a number of times.
I really am concerned for BU really inconsistent team. You know,
a home loss like Maine did, a home loss of
vermon On on Saturday. That was that's one that kind
of stands out. It looked like, you know, when they
beat Cornell down in Madison Square Garden last week. I
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was saying, oh, here we go, now be used back
on track, and then they they dropped that game to
Vermont on Saturday. So I'm really concerned about BU. And
it's another it's all of these teams in here that
we're going to talk about the overvalue. They're all brand
name teams.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, this will be a really emotional game for them
that they're going to really need to buckle down against
Northeastern Matthews Arena final game and they need that game,
and Northeastern is really going to I mean, everybody wants
their game, everybody wants the game, but this is I
think this is a big, big, big.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Game for them.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
They're eight and eight, sitting at five hundred overall, five
hundred in Hockey East and they need they need to
get something right to give them some momentum going into
the second half. They don't play till the ninth against UMass,
but they're running out of time. They need to turn
this around and need something to feel good about going
into Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Where do you think BU is going to become March?
Are they going to be closer to their poll ranking
or their NPI ranking and I.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's kind of tap dance around that.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I think they're going to be closer to their their
NPI ranking then they're their poll ranking.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, it's an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm a you know, my hockey'st tollarism is not showing
through here.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm going to agree with starting nowhere because.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Of the they don't know where they're I don't know
where they're going to start getting points back because of
the strength of schedule of the league.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't know if that's where he's the leady not
helping them.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, yeah, uh quit at PAK they're number ten in
the poll. They dropped a little bit with the weekend
split fifteen in the NPI. The poll voters still treating
them like an automatic top ten. But you know, I
think one thing that kept them there is what we
talked about before, with everybody else kind of in that
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range having.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Split or difficult weekends.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So they would be a bubble team right now, probably
not in because you maybe they would be the last
team in. But are they are? Is that more accurate?
Is that ten more accurate or is that bubble team
more accurate? I kind of lean toward the NPI number
on that one.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The same here, I think that this is closer to
a bubble team. They're they're good, they have good components.
They just haven't shown the consistency. And I've kind of
started to highlight this. I'm really getting into the mode
of the Ivy League. Schools in the ac AC are
a little bit better than I gave them credit for
when this season started. So I think the ECAC in general,
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for Quinnipiac, that's what has become more difficult overall.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think they're The inconsistency just shows in some of
their games. I mean they from week to week, game
to game, Like you go back that Holy Cross game,
they're up six to three with with like in the
middle of the third, they end up going to overtime.
They have a great showing against RPI this past weekend,
and then they lose the Union. I mean they have
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trouble with Stone till they go on a what is it,
seven game on beaten streak and then they now they lose,
I mean inconsistency. I think they're they're they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
I don't. I don't think they're I think they're I
think there's somewhere in between the two of where they
are right now. I think they're a I think they're
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a four seed right now.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think they're a top four seed. I think that.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, I think I think they're a I think they
are a number four seed, but the top four seed,
if that makes sense, The top fourth seed.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I think sounds like we're all in the same ballpark.
We're going to wrap with three from Hockey East. Smaller gaps,
but worth talking about. Yukon twelve in the pole, twenty
in the NPI BC is thirteen in the poll in
eighteen or sixteen rather in the NPI Providence sixteen in
(19:12):
the poll and nineteen in the NPI not huge gaps there.
Maybe the one that is being loved a little bit
more in the Pole than in the NPI. The most
is Yukon, and in Yukon could be a dark horse,
not that they're that far out of things. They could
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be a dark horse to win that league this year
the way they're going, couldn't they Jim.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, absolutely, yeah, they could. They've done really well thus
far in league play, so did They're right there? And
I feel like that that little trio you just mentioned, Yukon,
Boston College, Providence, it's going to be one of those
teams will make the tournament.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Maybe two of them do.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I don't think all three will, and the third one
will be cannibalized by the other two.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And that's a fair statement.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I think you're probably looking at once again, it comes
back to what we just said is their their their
teammates haven't helped, and they're all going to be sneaking
in right at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And you're also going to be the other upsets.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Or there's going to be somebody that that takes a
bid from somebody in the c c ch A, or
there is there going to be something that happens that's crazy.
You don't put yourself in those positions. I mean, we're
starting to be able to talk about this now. Don't
put yourself in the position that we're in that you're
in trouble and you're able to talk about right now.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I know. And Ed's still going to be worried.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
We're still still hasn't even brought up the fact that
there's going to be a team get sneaks in with
a losing record, and he hasn't brought that up yet.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And he already brought up.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
The fact that that the dials are going to get
changed and we don't know it, so we'll see how
it all plays out.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Can I say something about that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm actually getting less concerned about that losing record they
as the as the season has gone on, because we
look at the NPI right now, the bubble teams and
the teams in there, there's not a lot of teams
that are right around.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
That five hundred mark.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And if those teams lost, I'm going to bring linden Wood.
They're eight and six and they're six seventeen in the
in the NPI. They pulled two losses in there or
three losses in there, and they're eight nine they're not
going to be anywhere near seventeen or the bubble. Let's
go to the good side of it. Who's even close
Western Michigan ten and six? If they lose four in
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a row and they're ten and ten or I'm sorry,
they'd have to lose five to be, you know, ten
and eleven below five hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No, they're way below.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
They'd be way below the bubble if they were.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Negative five in terms of ways the rest of the way,
they're not going to get in.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I'm less concerned about iman.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I'm being sorry about the below five hundred. What if St.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Cloud wins two, they're at seven and nine, they win
two good games to get to nine and nine, you know,
from seven to nine to nine and nine.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I think we're going from twenty four to maybe
getting a little close.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I guess you're right. You looked at them the
other side of all their schools.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I haven't got Saint Thomas.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I don't know about Saint Thomas at seven and seven
because I don't know in the Ccha.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, you can't take those losses. J. It's got to
be an end.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Ten you beat Michigan twice, you know, and then you
go you split a couple of times with some good
Big ten opponents.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Those are the only couple ones that are going to
do it because of their strengthen schedule in league.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, if the if they if their only losses are
to the top of their team, they only lose games
to teams that are in front of them, and they
still find ways to maybe go five hundred against Penn State, Michigan,
Michigan State, any games left between those teams.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm not looking at Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Schedule as I say this, but I think if that's.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Another one potentially Okay, So we're going to wrap up
here with something quick, Derek. One of the best jobs
the committee ever did in selecting a field was in
twenty twenty one when you had to use the eye
test because the pairwise didn't mean anything because there was
not enough interconference play. So if you were on the
selection committee, and this is hypothetical because they don't do
(23:10):
it this way, it's going to be the numbers. But
if you had to come down to making a decision
for teams on the bubble between the NPI and the
eye test, which which way do you think is better?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And you won't get in any hot water over this.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I don't know yet because I haven't seen the way
the NPI has worked out. I like the way that
we did the actually the eye test, because the way
that it worked, as far as an anonymous and you
all picked it, it was it was really a neat way.
It wasn't like you listed you had a different screens
(23:49):
that you clicked in and out, and you had to
have a certain number of times and ballots. I mean,
it was a pretty It wasn't like you were sitting
in a cigar filled room and you were negotiating back
and forth like people.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It was. It was really.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Thought out, and it was really done through a computer,
and everybody had their different choices and so it was
really done very professional, let's put it that way. So
I liked how it was done. Steve was the chair
at the time, and my Kemp was on it. We
had a lot of good people that spent a lot
of time on that when we were in COVID.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
So I liked how it was done.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I would like to see how the NPI pairs out
this year to before I give you a final answer.
But when we did it that year, I thought we
did a good job with it. It was challenging, and
you did have people lobbying the the we got. We
got packets and packets and stuff from the league, every
from every league every day, wreck trying to trying to
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sway you.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And it was hard to stay you know, it was
hard to stay.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Neutral because you were getting stuff, you were having people
call you and all that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So it was interesting. But I thought we did a
good job. Glad you appreciated the job we did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I'll say I appreciated the job, but I'll say that
I'll take numbers o rise anytime, especially as we just
got into coming out of the college football playoffs selection show,
everything that's going on and the stinct that's being made
about Notre Dame versus Miami and that one. I'll take
the numbers all day. Give me numbers, give me objectivity.
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Subjectivity is way too much for sports.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, before we close, one more number, since we're talking
lots of numbers, and this number is three hundred to
sixty three win over Air Force last Saturday gave Derek
Scooley his three hundredth win as a Division one head coach,
and congratulations to you on that milestone.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You obviously a lot to our former players, our current players,
former staff, but a lot to Robert Morris community, everybody
who will helped bring the program back, everybody who's been
involved in Robert Morris hockey. So it's neat to be
able to do it all one place too. And not
only was it three hundred for me as a coach,
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it was three hundred for our program, So a lot
more goes into it than just me as an individual.
It's the full program. So hopefully we'll get to four hundred.
That's the then we'll talk about it schools.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I was going to say, right, here's a three hundred more,
but even see, I can't wish that on anybody, to
have you around for that much longer.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, a little bit, we'll deal with. We'll do what
throw one first and then we'll go from there. That's right,
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well.
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I'm ed Trevskier alongside Jim Connley and Derek Scooley and gentlemen,
we're taking a look at the poll versus the NPI
gaps and we're going to take a look at who
we trust more and what's going on with it right now.
We'll start out with Dartmouth. They have been the darlings
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it seems on our podcat podcast and what a great
story with them at ten and oh well, in the
poll on Monday they were number eight and they're number
one on Monday in the NPI, So it's a gap
of seven. Who do you trust more?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In this one? The poll voters were the np I
trust the NPI on this one. There's no dough do
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We talked about this a little at the end of
Monday's podcast that sometimes the poll voters really are brand recognizing,
and I think that this is an example of the
opposite of that. The Dartmouth not a team that's always
up there, so you don't have that brand recognition. Thus
they're not giving them the respect that they probably deserve
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right now.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I think it's between.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I really believe that it's more of the NPI. I
think there's somewhere around four or five, if I'm a
betting man, somewhere between where we have them at eight
and one, somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Do you think then schools that there were a number
one scene come in caa tournament time.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Where are we getting a little too ahead of ourselves?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very close? Very close?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow, we get to school admit.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Getting they're good.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I just I think that I think that we've just
we've been We've been pumping their tires so so much
that if you throw one loss in there, I hate
hate to see where the NPI is going to take them,
then it may be closer to where you're absolutely come
closer to where the poll thinks they are.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I think you're absolutely right on that, because your strength
of schedule counts for like three quarters of that number,
and so your your own record right now. When you
have a one thousand record that bumps you up, you
get a loss or two in there that's going to
pull that down. I'm going to say somewhere in between.
(02:49):
I wouldn't I wouldn't feel too badly about them. It's
like a five or six right now, although we haven't
seen them against competition in those positions. But we got
a few more to go through here in the first half,
which is teams that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The NPI likes.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
More than the pole, and that's Minnesota State. They're number
fourteen in the poll.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This week.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
They had a weekend split number nine in the NPI,
not a huge gap about five, which one's more on
the money.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think that this one is so close that I,
you know, I don't mind trusting a poll in this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know, the NPI sees this. I we'll see where
the CCHA is.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
NPI kind of rolls throughout the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Will this go down.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I see Minnesota State probably as a tournament team. I
don't know that I consider them a number one or
a number two seed, but I think they'll make the tournament.
So I see them right now. I think there are
a three seed in the NCAA tournament, which puts them
around twelve thirteen.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
In the poll.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I agree with Jimmy on that one.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Look at that we're having like this Kumba Yanau, we
would go there.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know, I don't know if I can stomach it. Yeah,
that seems about right for them. Cornell not a huge gap.
They picked up a little bit in Monday's pool. So
they're number seventeen in the US Echo poll and fourteenth
in the NPI, so the gap is only about three.
I'm gonna start on this one. I think that they're
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so close together. They're about right, but I think I
lean more towards seventeen than fourteen.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I think that this is going to be a
They're going to be a bubble team. So it's either
going to be winning the ECAC or sitting around the bubble.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's where I see them come seasons end.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I think they're more a I think they're more a
seventeen team than a fourteen team.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I don't have a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, then we also have some teams before we go
down the other one. So this question, is Cornell the
safest non Dartmouth ec see bet by March?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Meaning are they more.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Likely to make it than Quinnipiac, which has had a
few bumps along the way.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, that's a good question. That's that's what you just
That was in the show notes. That's that's thermally we
all the notes.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, you're right, But I mean, I guess I look
at Yeah, I think Cornell is probably a little closer.
Quinnipiac is a good team, but Quinnepiac is not consistent
enough that I can say that I believe that they're
an NCAA tournament team yet.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But I that's a really good, good something that's something
to watch as we get into the second half.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Or Union, what about Union? See? I like Union.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
You know, the Union lost to Princeton on Friday. I
like Princeton. This I don't know. I think the ac
AC is the conference for me right now. That has
to I need a little bit more time. Maybe it
is the late starting ivs in the fact that the
ivy's when you look at Harvest, Harvard, Cornell, Prince and
even you know they start so late. Maybe I just
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feel like I'm behind on making a good judgment on
the ECAC because of the late IVY star I need
a three headed coin here, because I was gonna flip
it between between Cornell at Quinnipiac, but then you just
throw Harvard out there.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We're just completely forgetting about Harvard at ten, I mean
at ten right now. I mean, I think that's the
big one there that everybody's we're talking right now about
Cornell and Quinnipiac.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Harvard's ten, and Harvard came into the poll on Monday
at number eighteen, so they're part of that list where
the NPI is liking them more than the poll.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But yeah, watch out for Harvard.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How about some other ones though, that are doing well
in the NPI and either getting a smattering of poll
voting points or nothing. Augustana thirteenth in the NPI the
receiving votes, lynden Wood is number seventeen, they're getting no votes.
And holy Cross at number twenty two, got twenty points
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in this week's and probably still the team to beat
in Atlanta Hockey. Any of those have real staying power
as a tournament level team. I mean, I guess the
question is can they stay in around the bubble? Can
holy Cross get to the bubble or is this going
to be something where they have to win the league,
and in lynden Wood's case, they don't have that option.
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They've just got to They've just got to hope they
get up to like number thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If Lyndenwood doesn't make many mistakes in the second half,
they can ride that independent schedule in success within the
independent schedule, inter possibly an at large big I think
that that is certainly the team that you just mentioned.
Of the team as you mentioned, that's the one that
is way off in terms of the respect they're getting
(07:57):
from the pollsters. I look at Augustan two was as
almost in that same category. They're just ahead. I mean,
they're thirteen. They were in the tournament today. If we
were doing bracketology right now, we'd be looking at August
stander in the field. So I think that that's another
team they need a little bit more love from the
poll voters.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I know, the next six games on london Wood, this
is what the london Wood. You're gonna know the next
six They got at Maine, right for these two games,
then you've got Kenisius at home, and then you've got
at the luth and they've got one. They've got to
win their two home games, and I think they've got.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If they can go three.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And one with Maine and the luth and then not
maybe just have one hiccup with a last us at
stone Hill and Anchorage, then they're done.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Then they have their their their cup.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I mean I talked to Keith Fisher last week and
we were joking how they were in the tournament. And
then they lost the one game to Long Island. They
fell the nineteenth. They didn't even play last weekend. They
climbed to seventeenth. That's because they had some pretty good
results earlier in the year where they beat Denver. Denver
just won, I mean Wisconsin. Continuing to win helps them.
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I mean, they beat Lake Superior twice, they lost in
overtime twice to Miami. They swept Parris, who had a
big win. I mean, so they're doing some things. If
they can go and go three and one on the
road against Maine and Minnesotada Luth and sweep Canecius at home,
watch out for the for the Lions potentially, But then
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they've got stone Hill at home, at Alaska at stone
Hill and Anchorage at home where they can't afford They
may me afford one, but they can't afford too.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't see them going three and one against Maine
in Duluth.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Though there are a lot they're a lot better than
people are giving credit.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Ask Denver, do you think? Ask Denver? They Denver?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
They I mean they beat Denver, they beat swept Lake Superior.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
They had Wisconsin tight. I mean they they did it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And Maine is reeling right now. They struggled to score
this weekend against you and Age. They are a great team.
They've lost four times at home already this season.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They have the old Penn State formula of just getting
the forty to fifty shots, of throwing pucks at the net,
creating rebounds and being really simplistic offensive.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
And they got good goaltending.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
They got a kid from the ushl on a transfer
from Duluth. You don't think he's going to be excited
to play at the Louth.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh good point, Well, you know it's that would be
quite the story the first year of the NPI getting
an independent in there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Blow the NPI up before they get rolling.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The bath is better.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh yeah, blow it up.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But they'll start turning those dials there, because that's what
happened with the pair wise when results didn't show what
they wanted, they tinkered. I bet you that's going to
be that with the NPI, they get results they don't want.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh, we got to turn those little dials.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
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And we're back with USCCHO. Upon further review, there's some
teams that are doing better in the poll, much better
in the poll than the NPI in some cases.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And one of them's Main.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We talked about that on Monday, mentioned it a little
bit one nothing in three to one or was it
three to two, one two, three to two, So two
losses to unranked New Hampshire who did get some votes
in the poll. This week, Main drops the number fifteen
in the poll. Not a huge drop because everybody else
in that range had some difficult weekends or we're off,
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but they're number forty in the NPI. So the gap
there is twenty five. The poll thinks they're in the
vicinity of a team in the playoffs, but the NPI says,
no way, You're not even close. They really got to
turn things around to get back. Can do the range
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of an at large.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I mean the first half we talked about the
you know, the lack of respect.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
For the poll.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is the poll giving way too much respect and
this is brand name respect for me, and.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It has happened quickly for me.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
They had some great wins there.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I go back to that BU series at Home where
they swept I think a lot that built them a
lot of the good momentum on their side. Didn't they
lose to Vermont, then they get swept by you and
age they should have fallen quicker.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I guess you can look at it. Not as you said.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The teams from say ten to twenty, and even some
of the teams that were in the receiving Vogue categories
didn't exactly excel this weekend. But right now, way too
high of a value on Maine. I think, to be
honest with you, knowing Ben Barr, he'd probably tell you
that the Pole is grossly overvaluing his team right now.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean it is.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And like I said, we're talking about lendon Wood potentially
going in and catching them at a reeling time, and yeah,
I think that shouldn't They shouldn't be we shouldn't be
talking about that. So yeah, grossly overvaluing Maine right this second.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Next done list is Boston University BU hung on at
number twenty in the poll, which is where I had
them on my ballot this week. The NPI is thirty three,
so it's thirteen. They started out at number two in
the preseason poll, and you know, we're close to a
national championship last year. The poll voters still giving them
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some credit saying, well, got to keep them on my
ballot somewhere, But the NPI says they're nowhere near close
to having a tournament resume.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
They actually concerned me more than Maine.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Having seen both of those teams play a number of times.
I really am concerned for BU really inconsistent team. You know,
a home loss like Maine did, a home loss of
vermon On on Saturday. That was that's one that kind
of stands out. It looked like, you know, when they
beat Cornell down in Madison Square Garden last week. I
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was saying, oh, here we go, now be used back
on track, and then they they dropped that game to
Vermont on Saturday. So I'm really concerned about BU. And
it's another it's all of these teams in here that
we're going to talk about the overvalue. They're all brand
name teams.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, this will be a really emotional game for them
that they're going to really need to buckle down against
Northeastern Matthews Arena final game and they need that game,
and Northeastern is really going to I mean, everybody wants
their game, everybody wants the game, but this is I
think this is a big, big, big.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Game for them.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
They're eight and eight, sitting at five hundred overall, five
hundred in Hockey East and they need they need to
get something right to give them some momentum going into
the second half. They don't play till the ninth against UMass,
but they're running out of time. They need to turn
this around and need something to feel good about going
into Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Where do you think BU is going to become March?
Are they going to be closer to their poll ranking
or their NPI ranking and I.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's kind of tap dance around that.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I think they're going to be closer to their their
NPI ranking then they're their poll ranking.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, it's an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm a you know, my hockey'st tollarism is not showing
through here.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm going to agree with starting nowhere because.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Of the they don't know where they're I don't know
where they're going to start getting points back because of
the strength of schedule of the league.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't know if that's where he's the leady not
helping them.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, yeah, uh quit at PAK they're number ten in
the poll. They dropped a little bit with the weekend
split fifteen in the NPI. The poll voters still treating
them like an automatic top ten. But you know, I
think one thing that kept them there is what we
talked about before, with everybody else kind of in that
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range having.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Split or difficult weekends.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So they would be a bubble team right now, probably
not in because you maybe they would be the last
team in. But are they are? Is that more accurate?
Is that ten more accurate or is that bubble team
more accurate? I kind of lean toward the NPI number
on that one.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The same here, I think that this is closer to
a bubble team. They're they're good, they have good components.
They just haven't shown the consistency. And I've kind of
started to highlight this. I'm really getting into the mode
of the Ivy League. Schools in the ac AC are
a little bit better than I gave them credit for
when this season started. So I think the ECAC in general,
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for Quinnipiac, that's what has become more difficult overall.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think they're The inconsistency just shows in some of
their games. I mean they from week to week, game
to game, Like you go back that Holy Cross game,
they're up six to three with with like in the
middle of the third, they end up going to overtime.
They have a great showing against RPI this past weekend,
and then they lose the Union. I mean they have
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trouble with Stone till they go on a what is it,
seven game on beaten streak and then they now they lose,
I mean inconsistency. I think they're they're they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
I don't. I don't think they're I think they're I
think there's somewhere in between the two of where they
are right now. I think they're a I think they're
(18:36):
a four seed right now.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think they're a top four seed. I think that.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, I think I think they're a I think they
are a number four seed, but the top four seed,
if that makes sense, The top fourth seed.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I think sounds like we're all in the same ballpark.
We're going to wrap with three from Hockey East. Smaller gaps,
but worth talking about. Yukon twelve in the pole, twenty
in the NPI BC is thirteen in the poll in
eighteen or sixteen rather in the NPI Providence sixteen in
(19:12):
the poll and nineteen in the NPI not huge gaps there.
Maybe the one that is being loved a little bit
more in the Pole than in the NPI. The most
is Yukon, and in Yukon could be a dark horse,
not that they're that far out of things. They could
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be a dark horse to win that league this year
the way they're going, couldn't they Jim.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, absolutely, yeah, they could. They've done really well thus
far in league play, so did They're right there? And
I feel like that that little trio you just mentioned, Yukon,
Boston College, Providence, it's going to be one of those
teams will make the tournament.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Maybe two of them do.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I don't think all three will, and the third one
will be cannibalized by the other two.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And that's a fair statement.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I think you're probably looking at once again, it comes
back to what we just said is their their their
teammates haven't helped, and they're all going to be sneaking
in right at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And you're also going to be the other upsets.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Or there's going to be somebody that that takes a
bid from somebody in the c c ch A, or
there is there going to be something that happens that's crazy.
You don't put yourself in those positions. I mean, we're
starting to be able to talk about this now. Don't
put yourself in the position that we're in that you're
in trouble and you're able to talk about right now.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I know. And Ed's still going to be worried.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
We're still still hasn't even brought up the fact that
there's going to be a team get sneaks in with
a losing record, and he hasn't brought that up yet.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And he already brought up.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
The fact that that the dials are going to get
changed and we don't know it, so we'll see how
it all plays out.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Can I say something about that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm actually getting less concerned about that losing record they
as the as the season has gone on, because we
look at the NPI right now, the bubble teams and
the teams in there, there's not a lot of teams
that are right around.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
That five hundred mark.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And if those teams lost, I'm going to bring linden Wood.
They're eight and six and they're six seventeen in the
in the NPI. They pulled two losses in there or
three losses in there, and they're eight nine they're not
going to be anywhere near seventeen or the bubble. Let's
go to the good side of it. Who's even close
Western Michigan ten and six? If they lose four in
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a row and they're ten and ten or I'm sorry,
they'd have to lose five to be, you know, ten
and eleven below five hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No, they're way below.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
They'd be way below the bubble if they were.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Negative five in terms of ways the rest of the way,
they're not going to get in.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I'm less concerned about iman.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I'm being sorry about the below five hundred. What if St.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Cloud wins two, they're at seven and nine, they win
two good games to get to nine and nine, you know,
from seven to nine to nine and nine.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I think we're going from twenty four to maybe
getting a little close.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I guess you're right. You looked at them the
other side of all their schools.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I haven't got Saint Thomas.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I don't know about Saint Thomas at seven and seven
because I don't know in the Ccha.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
No, you can't take those losses. J. It's got to
be an end.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Ten you beat Michigan twice, you know, and then you
go you split a couple of times with some good
Big ten opponents.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Those are the only couple ones that are going to
do it because of their strengthen schedule in league.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, if the if they if their only losses are
to the top of their team, they only lose games
to teams that are in front of them, and they
still find ways to maybe go five hundred against Penn State, Michigan,
Michigan State, any games left between those teams.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm not looking at Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Schedule as I say this, but I think if that's.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Another one potentially Okay, So we're going to wrap up
here with something quick, Derek. One of the best jobs
the committee ever did in selecting a field was in
twenty twenty one when you had to use the eye
test because the pairwise didn't mean anything because there was
not enough interconference play. So if you were on the
selection committee, and this is hypothetical because they don't do
(23:10):
it this way, it's going to be the numbers. But
if you had to come down to making a decision
for teams on the bubble between the NPI and the
eye test, which which way do you think is better?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And you won't get in any hot water over this.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I don't know yet because I haven't seen the way
the NPI has worked out. I like the way that
we did the actually the eye test, because the way
that it worked, as far as an anonymous and you
all picked it, it was it was really a neat way.
It wasn't like you listed you had a different screens
(23:49):
that you clicked in and out, and you had to
have a certain number of times and ballots. I mean,
it was a pretty It wasn't like you were sitting
in a cigar filled room and you were negotiating back
and forth like people.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It was. It was really.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Thought out, and it was really done through a computer,
and everybody had their different choices and so it was
really done very professional, let's put it that way. So
I liked how it was done. Steve was the chair
at the time, and my Kemp was on it. We
had a lot of good people that spent a lot
of time on that when we were in COVID.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
So I liked how it was done.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I would like to see how the NPI pairs out
this year to before I give you a final answer.
But when we did it that year, I thought we
did a good job with it. It was challenging, and
you did have people lobbying the the we got. We
got packets and packets and stuff from the league, every
from every league every day, wreck trying to trying to
(24:50):
sway you.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And it was hard to stay you know, it was
hard to stay.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Neutral because you were getting stuff, you were having people
call you and all that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So it was interesting. But I thought we did a
good job. Glad you appreciated the job we did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I'll say I appreciated the job, but I'll say that
I'll take numbers o rise anytime, especially as we just
got into coming out of the college football playoffs selection show,
everything that's going on and the stinct that's being made
about Notre Dame versus Miami and that one. I'll take
the numbers all day. Give me numbers, give me objectivity.
(25:31):
Subjectivity is way too much for sports.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, before we close, one more number, since we're talking
lots of numbers, and this number is three hundred to
sixty three win over Air Force last Saturday gave Derek
Scooley his three hundredth win as a Division one head coach,
and congratulations to you on that milestone.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You obviously a lot to our former players, our current players,
former staff, but a lot to Robert Morris community, everybody
who will helped bring the program back, everybody who's been
involved in Robert Morris hockey. So it's neat to be
able to do it all one place too. And not
only was it three hundred for me as a coach,
(26:13):
it was three hundred for our program, So a lot
more goes into it than just me as an individual.
It's the full program. So hopefully we'll get to four hundred.
That's the then we'll talk about it schools.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I was going to say, right, here's a three hundred more,
but even see, I can't wish that on anybody, to
have you around for that much longer.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, a little bit, we'll deal with. We'll do what
throw one first and then we'll go from there. That's right,
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
This episode has been sponsored by the NCAA Division One
Men's Frozen four in Las Vegas April ninth and eleventh.
Tickets are at NCAA dot com slash M Frozen four
and you can watch this on YouTube a YouTube dot
com slash us c h O for Jim Connley for
Derek Schooley.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'm ed trefsker in. This has been a pawn for
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