October 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Hosts Jim Connelly (@jimmyconnelly), Derek Schooley (@derekschooley), and Ed Trefzger (@EdTrefzger) review games of the weekend and news of the past week.
Key games included Sacred Heart's OT win against Ohio State, Clarkson's victory over North Dakota, and Merrimack's win against Quinnipiac.
The hosts note the increasing balance in college hockey, with 11 top 10 teams losing to unranked opponents in the first four weeks compared to only two last year. The discussion covers various dynamics influencing the season, such as improved team performances, a deeper talent pool, and changes in player rosters and game strategies.
They also examine other ranked team matchups, including Michigan vs. Western Michigan and Boston University vs. Connecticut, while considering how these trends might shape the season. The episode concludes with a look forward to conference play, particularly in the Big Ten and NCHC.
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Key games included Sacred Heart's OT win against Ohio State, Clarkson's victory over North Dakota, and Merrimack's win against Quinnipiac.
The hosts note the increasing balance in college hockey, with 11 top 10 teams losing to unranked opponents in the first four weeks compared to only two last year. The discussion covers various dynamics influencing the season, such as improved team performances, a deeper talent pool, and changes in player rosters and game strategies.
They also examine other ranked team matchups, including Michigan vs. Western Michigan and Boston University vs. Connecticut, while considering how these trends might shape the season. The episode concludes with a look forward to conference play, particularly in the Big Ten and NCHC.
Find all of our podcasts at USCHO.com/podcasts
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to us Echo Weekend review for Monday, October twenty seventh,
twenty twenty five. I met Trevsker alongside Jim Connolly and
Derek Schooley. We're going to get into some of the
big Top twenty matchups over the weekend. But first, why
don't we get into some of these upsets Friday night? Again,
it's like the first night of the weekend. Sometimes the
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first night is on a Thursday. But Sacred Heart took
down number fourteen Ohio State two to one, in ot
Clarkson beat number eight North Dakota five to two at home.
Merrimack had a big win over Quinnipiac ranked number six
last week at Lawler Rank. Colgate and in Orne took
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out number ten Main three to two, and Maine needed
overtime to rally three to two on Saturday, and then
on Saturday Northeastern shut out. Denver won nothing in Matthew's Arena.
A night after Denver put up seven goals on Boston
College and then Omaha got the last three goals in
a five to two win over number thirteen U Mass
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And you know, Penn State had to struggle a little
bit with Stonhill. But going back to those those upsets.
We're going to talk a little bit more about this midweek,
but things are just very balanced around college hockey right now,
and I don't think we should be too surprised by this.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Probably not, you know, I think during the weekend I
kept trying to quantify which which of these upsets of
the biggest, you know, which one's bigger. You know, Covid
up in the Orino, That's that's a pretty difficult place
to win.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I got Clarkson, you know, beating or Dakota. I didn't
expect that one. But where we're just seeing upsets. Yeah,
my play I play one of the play by play
professionals I work with. Eric o'lanty does a great job
in his research, and he and I were talking and
we came up with eleven times this year a top
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ten team in the first four weeks in the season
has launched to.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
An unragged opponent.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now, that might not say seem like much in a vacuum,
but if you compare it to last season, exact same
point in the schedule, two just two losses by top
ten teams to unragged opponents. So it's kind of we're seeing.
I'm not going to bring a word the key word in.
I don't love to throw that out of it. That's
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an overused term.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I think this is.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A little bit of you know what, we know a
lot of teams are improved this year, and this goes
back to that that we keep saying. It had that
frank servatory quote from Atlantic Hockey Media Day, this is
the best year of college hockey ever because we have
the best pool of players we've ever seen in college hockey.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The results are starting to prove them out.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You're also looking at you talk about Merrimack beats Quinnipiac. Well,
then the next day Long Island turns around and beats Merrimack,
and you got linden Wood and Miami. Miami is the
only undefeated team in the nation right now at six
and zero, and they only won three games last year.
So you've got a lot of different things that are
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happening right now in college.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Hockey that are just you talk about the key word, parody,
anything that you want.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
To all of this this is it makes for interesting
drama each week, and you they're better players in college
hockey this year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The pool is deeper, They're better players.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Everybody's got it, nobody really knows what they have. And
I think it's going to take at least until Thanksgiving
to see where everybody shakes out, because everybody's beating everybody
right now, and Miami's not going to go undefeated. There's
not going to be an undefeated team here in college hockey,
and you're going to just continue to see people go down.
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And what's the bigger upsets? Sacred heart beating, ohose statement.
The shots were even in that game. These aren't games
that back when teams used to to go in and
steal teams. And we beat Miami when they were number
number one and you were you're getting out shot fifty
to twenty and you're your goalie was standing on your head,
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on his head. You're beating a number five team and
the shots were sixty to ten the shot. These games
are even now, These games are even. We played Notre
Dame this weekend. We held them without a shot for
for almost twenty minutes in a hockey game. These are
teams like from from from numbers twenty to number forty,
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pretty even in pair wise, NPI, whatever you want to
call it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And then you've got the top that are struggling with
the botum. So where do you go with this?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We're gonna have to It's going to take a while
for this to sort out of who the top and
who the bottom is. And that's why you're seeing everybody
beat everybody out it any given night. And look at
We're going to talk about this again in the second half,
but just look at the Western Michigan. Michigan scores completely
different scores from night one to night two. So parody,
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deeper pool, newpool, new players learning college hockey.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Throw it all out the window.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Take everything that you've known about it, and we'll find
out at Thanksgiving where this all settles down.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
In schools, I mean, you're on the front line of this,
you're on the benches. You've played some of these, you
know really good at cootents.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think of the series you already you know against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But you know, when you're coaching the game, does it
look different? Do you do you feel like you see
a different looking game on the ice in terms of
the skill level and the players.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, we've played Michigan, We've played Notre Dame, we
played Bowling Green in an exhibition game. You're seeing a
little faster game. But what you're also seeing is you
used to know the pool, used to know the players. Hey,
I watched this kid play in junior hockey. I watched
this kid on TV for two years. I watch this
kid at the Frozen four. I've seen this kid.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now you have no.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Idea where these rosters are, and you're really trying to
learn the talent pool. You're learning, Oh, where did that
kid come from? Oh that kid played in the central
in the Canadian junior hockey leagues. Or this kid played
Tier two, this kid played Major, this kid is a transfer.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The rosters are so different that it's not you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You're really kind of the scout reports you have for
teams that you've played in previous years. The systems are
the same, but the players are different. So you're trying
to relearn everything and learn kind of what everybody's strengths
and weaknesses are. Where it really is different as the goalies,
and you're seeing goalies like we've played, We've played, Like
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I said, we've played Michigan and we played Notre Dame
and I've watched Michigan play. They played what if they
played eight games? Now they've played the same goalie all
eight games. Notre Dames played the same goalie all eight games.
You've seen teams running with the same goalie. There's not
a lot of teams. I think you're going to see
teams because they're taking kids from major junior and from
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the COCHL where they're used to playing fifty games in
a year.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
What's thirty four now?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What's playing two games with not any travel between cities.
That's another thing that's taken into consideration is some of
these guys that were used to playing a game game
one in Niagara Falls and then have to turn around
and play game two in Peterborough, which may not be
that far, but you're still traveling from city to city
for games. Here, you're staying in the same town and
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there's just so many different things within that's completely different
from anything that we've seen before.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So we're still trying to figure out college hockey. So yes,
it does look different from the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Bench a little bit, and I'm trying to figure out
if this is going to be like a major league
batting order that once the starting pitcher sees the second
time through, it'll be a little different. Will this be
different next year as we as coaches are more tune
to where these players are coming from, who they are,
maybe know a little bit more background on some of
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these players. I feel like this year, you just every
head coach walks into a game saying there's a there
can be a half dozen players I don't know. I
call the game I called the Quinnipiac New Hampshire game
on Saturday night. Between the two rosters, you had thirteen
players who were either you Sports or CHL players last
year that most of these coaches probably didn't know too
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much about coming into this season. So I think that
that is maybe where the disconnect will shorten. Maybe as
as we go through this, maybe next year, two years
down the roads, we're not seeing as much, and maybe
then we'll see more of a level of demarcation between levels.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But right now I'm just not seeing ceiling, you know,
a really low floor. I think we're seeing a lot
of teams getting into that middle.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Area, you know, Derek, let me ask you one other
area where I've noticed the game changing, maybe a little
bit more this year than other years. But you're seeing
the skill level when it comes to special teams, the
power play schemes and play seems just so fast to me, now.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It certainly looks that way on our when we're trying
to come upindently.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It doesn't look that way on our power play right
now we're but yeah, there, you know what that's that's
what happens when you have pret scale and you look
at the gold gap in the kind of scored against Stonehill,
how many passes that they make on that goal.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And you talk about what does this say?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
We got the show notes and we've kind of dick
kind of moved away from the show notes a little bit,
but it just shows you, like, look at.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Stonehill, Long Island.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They went in and Gavin McKenna's got ten points in
eight games. But those games against Long Island, don't know,
they did a pretty good job of slowing him down
and holding.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's that's not And with the skill.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Level they had, they made a really nice power play.
Well it looked really good where they made a whole
bunch of plays, but those aren't world beating scores. And
what a good good job those teams did going in
and holding those games to be pretty close.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Let's talk a little bit about Penn State. They're seven
and one right now. I haven't seen today's poll but
I know they have some first place votes and they're
going to be like a top five team in that
that they've had to come from behind a lot, including
against teams that you mentioned. What do we know about them?
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Are they is that the way it's going to be
either going to be a come from behind team or
they do they have some problems? I mean, how do
you have problems when you're seven and one? But I
mean are there some things that maybe they need to
be concerned about?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I think you've hit a really good question and
brought what I think is a talking point right now
among a lot of people in college hockey.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Is Penn State real?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Are they really act good in the win that they
get over l i U last week in overtime, taking
Stonehill to overtime, a close game on Saturday against stone Hill.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Listen, what it comes down to is they got wins.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And I think that those are really difficult games to win.
Penn State knows there was no upside in either of
those matchups. If you lose to l IU, you lose
a stone Hill looks afful it would have a negative
impact on your NDI most likely, and then you furthermore,
you don't get a lot of upside for a victory,
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you're not boosting your NPI. These are potentially games that
when we in the NPI to get limited and eliminated
at the end of the season when all is said
and done, from even being calculated. So I look at
this as you're getting out of weekends with wins, and
that's a good sign. I'm sure Gaygadowski would love to
see his team come out and just blow away some
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of their.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Opponents on the average average night.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you know, if you're going to get into these
close games, I think a team that pulls out wins
in really really close games is a championship caliber team.
That is what it takes to win championships, to get
into the games where you face the adversity, battle it
and come out on top.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Of the things.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Our game against Dotred Amazon Peacock and I listened to
Steve Conroy and on the color for the game on
Peacock watching on the bus ride home, and they talked
about Notre Dame schedule. Big ten is gonna You're gonna
find out a lot about that conference with their schedule
when they start diving into their conference games now because
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they've got Michigan, Penn State, and Michigan State all in
the top five, and they're gonna somebody's gonna have to
start beating some people. They're going to start playing each
other and they start winning and losing some hockey games.
And if you're not in those three, you're gonna and
you start Can you imagine having a having those three
boom boom boom right and row in your schedule if
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you're Notre Dame, if you're Ohio State and you've got
three top five games in a row, that starts getting
a little challenging for you, and that could be tough
on your psyche if you if you don't come out
with some positive results and you play well against those
and you play well, that's where you're gonna start seeing
a little separation in that league if you don't start
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winning some games, and.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's where this is.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This is going to get interesting in the Big Ten
because we talked about Minnesota and Minnesota da Loof last
week and being a big series. Minnesota gets swept by
the Loof. Big Tens get really interesting on how that
league's going to shake out as far as wins and
losses and how that top four If five, Ohio State
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gets upset where that that group of three, the homeice
advantage group falls in that that league.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, we'll really see it when the NPI starts to
really zone in when it's time for picking the NCAA field.
By the way, before we go to break, oh, we'll
mention that us e HO is pulled down the NPI
for a short while because the numbers just didn't make
any sense with a small sample size early on. It's
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a lot more all over the place than the pairwise was.
And so once the IVY leagues get underway, those six
teams in the ECAC and have some games, then things
will start to come into focus and then we'll be
able to look at that. But right now it was
it was all over the place, and knowing that people
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like to do a little publicity based on what was
the pair wise, Hey, we're number four in it right
now after they played two games or whatever, that's not
going to be there. So be patient with that and
that'll be up. And this is really a season to
feel out what that's going to look like. But it's
time for us to break and we're going to look
at some three three big series actually between nationally ranked
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teams when US Echo Weekend Review continues and we're back
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with US Echo Weekend Review. Number three Michigan and number
two Western Michigan split a home in home series. Both
teams won at home. I got to watch Thursday night
and I guess you guys did too. Michigan got the
shutout thirty two stops in a three to nothing win
on Thursday, and then Friday five to two win for
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the defending national champs. They never trailed and it was
the first loss of the season for Michigan. They're now
seven to one.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
In Oh yeah, I mean I learned something watching Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I mean, we knew that they're a good team.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
They come in in six and oh we hadn't seen
them really play a top five of podiyas, so that
that was a really good measuring stick. They have a goaltender,
and you know when you have a goaltender in college hockey,
that can be the difference maker. And when you add
all in the fact that they also have incredibly strong
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offense of capabilities, that was a fantastic game on Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I didn't see the Friday game by like US.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Schools and we're all in a rain but Thursdays a
great height to catch some college hockey on TV. I
was watching along and notice that Michigan was really surgical.
I thought that they did a great job of fighting
their offensive opportunities, and then on the other end, when
Western got those opportunities, they got goals centered. They really did.
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And I thought that that is one thing that will
stand out about this Michigan team.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I told you that.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I told you that was the difference that going into
that after we saw him as as our goaltending was deep,
there are four lines deep. They've got probably defensemen and
forwards that could play for any other team in the
country that are not in the lineup, and they've got
a goaltender and they've run them out every game. He's
just probably going to play on the World Junior team
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for Canada this year. But they're deep. And you saw
it on Thursday night, and that's why they they they
made Western look they they made Western look like not
a national championship team. They I mean, Michigan looked like
they were the defending national champions in that game. I
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will tell you this. The one thing I was really
and I was watching it without sound. We're at a
restaurant pregame meal I quote for before our or meal
before our game. I didn't like the empty net goal,
and I don't know if you guys saw it where
the guy's skates were hanging over the boards. It was
shot out of the zone, puck deflected off of a
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player who was going for a change, and it deflected
off of the player into the net.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It was reviewed.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I guess it was allowed because you can't challenge a
stoppage of play from only the offensive zone. I think
that needed to be that goal needed to be disallowed.
I mean, it hits a guy in the bench, goes
in the net. The guy wasn't to be hanging over
the bench. The refs missed at a challengeeship, But it
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was the stoppage of play only in the offensive zone
that you can challenge that. I think that that you've
got to get that right there, and that's something that
needs to be addressed in the in future years.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't know if you guys saw that as well.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, I saw that school day, and that's one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's just a it's it's like the old line cheams.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You could, you know, go off one into the backs,
come on the other end, and in the referees, we're
having hard time picking that up.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Could you challenge that on video? Could you know all
that sort of stuff, It's very similar.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
They's something that will probably get to address, especially in
a rule change here. This will be one that will
be shown to the rules committee as as you know,
an example of a rule that's just a little You've
got plenty of parameters into to call back goals that
just don't make sense. That goal doesn't make sense. It's
it's a player that that shouldn't even been on the ice.
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The pop really technically should be in the bench in
my opinion, in that slade.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I mean his leg was over the boards to change
that he was changing for the guy who shot the puck,
and the guy wasn't even close to it. I mean
it's I think the NHL put a rule in this
year if you're sitting on the bench in that scenario,
there's a warning that you can get too many men
in the ice penalty delay a game.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I don't know the actual wording of.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The call, but I thought that goal should have been disloved.
Thank god it wasn't. In a it was three nothing
at the time, not one nothing because that could have
really changed the game because it should have been icing
or into the bench, like you said. So just an
interesting little way that game ended in the four nothing
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first one.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know, you bring up a thought because I've noticed it.
Do we have too many stoppages because players are leaning
over too much on the bench.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, there's a new thing that guys like to sit
on the bench or sit on the board. So I
think it's a junior hockey thing. And I've been on
my guys about sitting on the bench, like you don't
see NHL players sitting on the bench like that. It's
I think a junior hockey thing. And yeah, I think
there needs to be something addressed on that. I think,
like I said, the NHL has addressed legs hanging over
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the boards. I think you see Koocher Rock did it
all the time, and I think the NHL's addressed. I
think that that needs to be addressed in our game
as well.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Number four Boston University and number eleven Connecticut going into
the weekend, they reverse split their home and home series,
with the visitors winning each night. Ride a crazy offensive
explosion totally twelve gold. But with that one b you
had leads of two nothing, three, two, four to three
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before they ended up losing eight to four. Meanwhile, down
in Stores, it was more of what you would expect
between these two teams. A three one decision for be
you Mikyle you goovs twenty four of twenty five a
night after he allowed six goals on twenty six shots
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before he got pulled. So what about that kind of
a contrast between the teams and winning.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
On the road for both of them. I was really
shocked with that Friday game.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I don't think either coach probably enjoyed coaching in that
game watching twelve goals. Maybe Mike tavanof enjoyed that, you know,
end of the second into the third period of getting
the last five. But that's not the defensive structure that
both of these coaches played TODs.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Things changed a lot on Saturday. That was a more
typical game.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I was probably a little concern for BU coming off
being swept at Ule against Michigan State, then having that
two and nothing lead, the three, two, fourth, three leads,
and then you know, losing that game.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Eight to four.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That probably really stung more so even than the Michigan
State weekend did. I know that ot loss on Saturday
against Michigan State was top.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But thence back to go down.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It was a five o'clock sorry, I believe on Saturday,
so you had a shorter turnaround. You're traveling, both teams
are traveling, you're going down to stores. I mean that
I thought was a really good bounce back. And that's
that's my first extremely positive sign for this Boston University
team this season. I think there'll be more of them.
I was getting nervous though, so I think that's a
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really good sign.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, I'm interested to see how Yukon does this coming
weekend against Merrimack. I think we're going to really see
what kind of uh, you know, team both of them are.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Because of Merrimack has been a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
An up and down and then you got that that
weird split that you talk about there and Hockey East
is is a is kind of iMac who right now
technically is in first place because they've played a few
more games, and then you got Yukon right after him.
I think that you'll see who is who's going to
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be for real on there, and this is one of
those it's a one game deal.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
They just planned Saturday night, and.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Basically you've got Merrimack who beats Quinnipiac number six.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Then they lose the Long Island. Which real Merrimack are
there first place? East?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Are they the team that lost to Long Island? And
Yukon is coming off a big split with you. It'll
be an interesting weekend for them.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
One more series to look at. Struggles continuing for Minnesota.
They went into the weekend at number twelve. Surprisingly they
didn't drop out of the poll that came out today.
They're number nineteen in the poll, still getting a little
reputation there from the voters, but they were swept home
at home with Minnesota Duluth three nothing in four to one. Meanwhile,
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Minnesota Duluth somewhat out of nowhere is all the way.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Up to seven to one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And oh and I say out of nowhere, not because
because d Luth hasn't been a eight team over the years,
but they've had a couple of down seasons. They are
off to a terrific start. They are actually number ten
in Monday's USCCHO poll.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A good job by the voters to get to loute
to number ten for a job to lead Minnesota. Yet, seriously,
this team's two to five and one. They're not a
nationally racing team right now. There's there were so many
teams that I thought could have been ragged this week.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
From outside the top forty. I think I brought two
or three.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Teams and from outside the top twenty onto my ballot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Miami being one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We've mentioned already, But god, let's let's start with Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm not even gonna beat up on Minnesota right now.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I'm just gonna try to praise Minnesota to loute because
what a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
That is for Scott Sandal and his team.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They've had a.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Great start to this season. That's a city that was
dying to get back. They won their a couple of
national championships not too long ago, and they really wanted
to get back to that place there now.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And I think that now that you're going.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
To start NCAAC play, you're going to see this is
going to be a team that'll be great in the mix.
Put them up with Denver, North Dakota. I think d
Luth is right there in the NCC mix. Well, that's
what we talked about last week.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
We talked about we were shocked at which Minnesota team
was had a winning record and which one didn't, And
it was the one that was into Luth compared to
the one that was in the Cities. And the one
that's in the Luth still rolling along and the one
that in the Cities is still struggling a little bit.
You're going to see right now, big, big weekend North Dakota.
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North Dakota to open NCCHC play for Duluth. And like
you said, not to beat up on, not to beat
up on the Gophers, but they got to get right
against Wisconsin this weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
These are two massive weekends for both Minnesota teams. Right now.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You got the Louth to show that they're for real
against the against the fighting Hawks, i'ma said the fighting
to the fighting Hawks.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
After a long trip going from east to west.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
For North Dakota, it'd be a little bit different, difficult
because they're not used to be being traveling from the
East coast all the way back home. But now they've
got the Bulldogs and then you've got the Gophers. They've
got to get right somehow. And both kind of rivalry.
You got Scottie sandlind rivalry with North Dakota. You've got
the Minnesota Wisconsin rivalry. Both those teams got to get
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right here.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And I guess I shouldn't say it. The Loop's not
got to get right, but the Loo's got to prove
that they're for.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Real right and Jim, we're looking pretty smart about what
we said about those two teams in our Friday podcast
this week.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, we fought it our pizza money bet the strong underdog.
There were a ton of big underdogs, but Dluth was
one on on Sriday Night. I thought that was very surprising.
Regardless they got the win. I say that I would
never exuicize the pizza bed. I don't bet any anyways,
but I would never take my five keep my plagu Also,
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the piece that I said this was the week delay
it Leonard Deluxe. And yes, we all did come out
we'll be a little smarter, but I don't think that
was a tough ultimate though too bad.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You know, I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're just about out of time, so we'll wrap it
up here, don't forget. On Wednesdays, we have a pond
further review our Wednesday episode where we pick up another
topic we didn't have room four on Monday and talk
about it in depth and we're going to talk a
little bit more about what we touched on today, about
how good everybody is and what's going on this season.
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So for Jim Connolly, for Derek Scooley, I'm Ed Trevsker
and this has been usc CHO Weekend Review.
Usccho dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to us Echo Weekend review for Monday, October twenty seventh,
twenty twenty five. I met Trevsker alongside Jim Connolly and
Derek Schooley. We're going to get into some of the
big Top twenty matchups over the weekend. But first, why
don't we get into some of these upsets Friday night? Again,
it's like the first night of the weekend. Sometimes the
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first night is on a Thursday. But Sacred Heart took
down number fourteen Ohio State two to one, in ot
Clarkson beat number eight North Dakota five to two at home.
Merrimack had a big win over Quinnipiac ranked number six
last week at Lawler Rank. Colgate and in Orne took
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out number ten Main three to two, and Maine needed
overtime to rally three to two on Saturday, and then
on Saturday Northeastern shut out. Denver won nothing in Matthew's Arena.
A night after Denver put up seven goals on Boston
College and then Omaha got the last three goals in
a five to two win over number thirteen U Mass
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And you know, Penn State had to struggle a little
bit with Stonhill. But going back to those those upsets.
We're going to talk a little bit more about this midweek,
but things are just very balanced around college hockey right now,
and I don't think we should be too surprised by this.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Probably not, you know, I think during the weekend I
kept trying to quantify which which of these upsets of
the biggest, you know, which one's bigger. You know, Covid
up in the Orino, That's that's a pretty difficult place
to win.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I got Clarkson, you know, beating or Dakota. I didn't
expect that one. But where we're just seeing upsets. Yeah,
my play I play one of the play by play
professionals I work with. Eric o'lanty does a great job
in his research, and he and I were talking and
we came up with eleven times this year a top
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ten team in the first four weeks in the season
has launched to.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
An unragged opponent.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now, that might not say seem like much in a vacuum,
but if you compare it to last season, exact same
point in the schedule, two just two losses by top
ten teams to unragged opponents. So it's kind of we're seeing.
I'm not going to bring a word the key word in.
I don't love to throw that out of it. That's
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an overused term.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I think this is.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A little bit of you know what, we know a
lot of teams are improved this year, and this goes
back to that that we keep saying. It had that
frank servatory quote from Atlantic Hockey Media Day, this is
the best year of college hockey ever because we have
the best pool of players we've ever seen in college hockey.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The results are starting to prove them out.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You're also looking at you talk about Merrimack beats Quinnipiac. Well,
then the next day Long Island turns around and beats Merrimack,
and you got linden Wood and Miami. Miami is the
only undefeated team in the nation right now at six
and zero, and they only won three games last year.
So you've got a lot of different things that are
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happening right now in college.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Hockey that are just you talk about the key word, parody,
anything that you want.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
To all of this this is it makes for interesting
drama each week, and you they're better players in college
hockey this year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The pool is deeper, They're better players.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Everybody's got it, nobody really knows what they have. And
I think it's going to take at least until Thanksgiving
to see where everybody shakes out, because everybody's beating everybody
right now, and Miami's not going to go undefeated. There's
not going to be an undefeated team here in college hockey,
and you're going to just continue to see people go down.
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And what's the bigger upsets? Sacred heart beating, ohose statement.
The shots were even in that game. These aren't games
that back when teams used to to go in and
steal teams. And we beat Miami when they were number
number one and you were you're getting out shot fifty
to twenty and you're your goalie was standing on your head,
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on his head. You're beating a number five team and
the shots were sixty to ten the shot. These games
are even now, These games are even. We played Notre
Dame this weekend. We held them without a shot for
for almost twenty minutes in a hockey game. These are
teams like from from from numbers twenty to number forty,
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pretty even in pair wise, NPI, whatever you want to
call it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And then you've got the top that are struggling with
the botum. So where do you go with this?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We're gonna have to It's going to take a while
for this to sort out of who the top and
who the bottom is. And that's why you're seeing everybody
beat everybody out it any given night. And look at
We're going to talk about this again in the second half,
but just look at the Western Michigan. Michigan scores completely
different scores from night one to night two. So parody,
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deeper pool, newpool, new players learning college hockey.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Throw it all out the window.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Take everything that you've known about it, and we'll find
out at Thanksgiving where this all settles down.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
In schools, I mean, you're on the front line of this,
you're on the benches. You've played some of these, you
know really good at cootents.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think of the series you already you know against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But you know, when you're coaching the game, does it
look different? Do you do you feel like you see
a different looking game on the ice in terms of
the skill level and the players.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, we've played Michigan, We've played Notre Dame, we
played Bowling Green in an exhibition game. You're seeing a
little faster game. But what you're also seeing is you
used to know the pool, used to know the players. Hey,
I watched this kid play in junior hockey. I watched
this kid on TV for two years. I watch this
kid at the Frozen four. I've seen this kid.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now you have no.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Idea where these rosters are, and you're really trying to
learn the talent pool. You're learning, Oh, where did that
kid come from? Oh that kid played in the central
in the Canadian junior hockey leagues. Or this kid played
Tier two, this kid played Major, this kid is a transfer.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The rosters are so different that it's not you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You're really kind of the scout reports you have for
teams that you've played in previous years. The systems are
the same, but the players are different. So you're trying
to relearn everything and learn kind of what everybody's strengths
and weaknesses are. Where it really is different as the goalies,
and you're seeing goalies like we've played, We've played, Like
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I said, we've played Michigan and we played Notre Dame
and I've watched Michigan play. They played what if they
played eight games? Now they've played the same goalie all
eight games. Notre Dames played the same goalie all eight games.
You've seen teams running with the same goalie. There's not
a lot of teams. I think you're going to see
teams because they're taking kids from major junior and from
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the COCHL where they're used to playing fifty games in
a year.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
What's thirty four now?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What's playing two games with not any travel between cities.
That's another thing that's taken into consideration is some of
these guys that were used to playing a game game
one in Niagara Falls and then have to turn around
and play game two in Peterborough, which may not be
that far, but you're still traveling from city to city
for games. Here, you're staying in the same town and
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there's just so many different things within that's completely different
from anything that we've seen before.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So we're still trying to figure out college hockey. So yes,
it does look different from the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Bench a little bit, and I'm trying to figure out
if this is going to be like a major league
batting order that once the starting pitcher sees the second
time through, it'll be a little different. Will this be
different next year as we as coaches are more tune
to where these players are coming from, who they are,
maybe know a little bit more background on some of
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these players. I feel like this year, you just every
head coach walks into a game saying there's a there
can be a half dozen players I don't know. I
call the game I called the Quinnipiac New Hampshire game
on Saturday night. Between the two rosters, you had thirteen
players who were either you Sports or CHL players last
year that most of these coaches probably didn't know too
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much about coming into this season. So I think that
that is maybe where the disconnect will shorten. Maybe as
as we go through this, maybe next year, two years
down the roads, we're not seeing as much, and maybe
then we'll see more of a level of demarcation between levels.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But right now I'm just not seeing ceiling, you know,
a really low floor. I think we're seeing a lot
of teams getting into that middle.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Area, you know, Derek, let me ask you one other
area where I've noticed the game changing, maybe a little
bit more this year than other years. But you're seeing
the skill level when it comes to special teams, the
power play schemes and play seems just so fast to me, now.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It certainly looks that way on our when we're trying
to come upindently.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It doesn't look that way on our power play right
now we're but yeah, there, you know what that's that's
what happens when you have pret scale and you look
at the gold gap in the kind of scored against Stonehill,
how many passes that they make on that goal.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And you talk about what does this say?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
We got the show notes and we've kind of dick
kind of moved away from the show notes a little bit,
but it just shows you, like, look at.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Stonehill, Long Island.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They went in and Gavin McKenna's got ten points in
eight games. But those games against Long Island, don't know,
they did a pretty good job of slowing him down
and holding.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's that's not And with the skill.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Level they had, they made a really nice power play.
Well it looked really good where they made a whole
bunch of plays, but those aren't world beating scores. And
what a good good job those teams did going in
and holding those games to be pretty close.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Let's talk a little bit about Penn State. They're seven
and one right now. I haven't seen today's poll but
I know they have some first place votes and they're
going to be like a top five team in that
that they've had to come from behind a lot, including
against teams that you mentioned. What do we know about them?
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Are they is that the way it's going to be
either going to be a come from behind team or
they do they have some problems? I mean, how do
you have problems when you're seven and one? But I
mean are there some things that maybe they need to
be concerned about?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I think you've hit a really good question and
brought what I think is a talking point right now
among a lot of people in college hockey.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Is Penn State real?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Are they really act good in the win that they
get over l i U last week in overtime, taking
Stonehill to overtime, a close game on Saturday against stone Hill.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Listen, what it comes down to is they got wins.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And I think that those are really difficult games to win.
Penn State knows there was no upside in either of
those matchups. If you lose to l IU, you lose
a stone Hill looks afful it would have a negative
impact on your NDI most likely, and then you furthermore,
you don't get a lot of upside for a victory,
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you're not boosting your NPI. These are potentially games that
when we in the NPI to get limited and eliminated
at the end of the season when all is said
and done, from even being calculated. So I look at
this as you're getting out of weekends with wins, and
that's a good sign. I'm sure Gaygadowski would love to
see his team come out and just blow away some
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of their.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Opponents on the average average night.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you know, if you're going to get into these
close games, I think a team that pulls out wins
in really really close games is a championship caliber team.
That is what it takes to win championships, to get
into the games where you face the adversity, battle it
and come out on top.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Of the things.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Our game against Dotred Amazon Peacock and I listened to
Steve Conroy and on the color for the game on
Peacock watching on the bus ride home, and they talked
about Notre Dame schedule. Big ten is gonna You're gonna
find out a lot about that conference with their schedule
when they start diving into their conference games now because
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they've got Michigan, Penn State, and Michigan State all in
the top five, and they're gonna somebody's gonna have to
start beating some people. They're going to start playing each
other and they start winning and losing some hockey games.
And if you're not in those three, you're gonna and
you start Can you imagine having a having those three
boom boom boom right and row in your schedule if
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you're Notre Dame, if you're Ohio State and you've got
three top five games in a row, that starts getting
a little challenging for you, and that could be tough
on your psyche if you if you don't come out
with some positive results and you play well against those
and you play well, that's where you're gonna start seeing
a little separation in that league if you don't start
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winning some games, and.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's where this is.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This is going to get interesting in the Big Ten
because we talked about Minnesota and Minnesota da Loof last
week and being a big series. Minnesota gets swept by
the Loof. Big Tens get really interesting on how that
league's going to shake out as far as wins and
losses and how that top four If five, Ohio State
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gets upset where that that group of three, the homeice
advantage group falls in that that league.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, we'll really see it when the NPI starts to
really zone in when it's time for picking the NCAA field.
By the way, before we go to break, oh, we'll
mention that us e HO is pulled down the NPI
for a short while because the numbers just didn't make
any sense with a small sample size early on. It's
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a lot more all over the place than the pairwise was.
And so once the IVY leagues get underway, those six
teams in the ECAC and have some games, then things
will start to come into focus and then we'll be
able to look at that. But right now it was
it was all over the place, and knowing that people
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like to do a little publicity based on what was
the pair wise, Hey, we're number four in it right
now after they played two games or whatever, that's not
going to be there. So be patient with that and
that'll be up. And this is really a season to
feel out what that's going to look like. But it's
time for us to break and we're going to look
at some three three big series actually between nationally ranked
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teams when US Echo Weekend Review continues and we're back
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with US Echo Weekend Review. Number three Michigan and number
two Western Michigan split a home in home series. Both
teams won at home. I got to watch Thursday night
and I guess you guys did too. Michigan got the
shutout thirty two stops in a three to nothing win
on Thursday, and then Friday five to two win for
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the defending national champs. They never trailed and it was
the first loss of the season for Michigan. They're now
seven to one.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
In Oh yeah, I mean I learned something watching Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I mean, we knew that they're a good team.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
They come in in six and oh we hadn't seen
them really play a top five of podiyas, so that
that was a really good measuring stick. They have a goaltender,
and you know when you have a goaltender in college hockey,
that can be the difference maker. And when you add
all in the fact that they also have incredibly strong
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offense of capabilities, that was a fantastic game on Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I didn't see the Friday game by like US.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Schools and we're all in a rain but Thursdays a
great height to catch some college hockey on TV. I
was watching along and notice that Michigan was really surgical.
I thought that they did a great job of fighting
their offensive opportunities, and then on the other end, when
Western got those opportunities, they got goals centered. They really did.
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And I thought that that is one thing that will
stand out about this Michigan team.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I told you that.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I told you that was the difference that going into
that after we saw him as as our goaltending was deep,
there are four lines deep. They've got probably defensemen and
forwards that could play for any other team in the
country that are not in the lineup, and they've got
a goaltender and they've run them out every game. He's
just probably going to play on the World Junior team
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for Canada this year. But they're deep. And you saw
it on Thursday night, and that's why they they they
made Western look they they made Western look like not
a national championship team. They I mean, Michigan looked like
they were the defending national champions in that game. I
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will tell you this. The one thing I was really
and I was watching it without sound. We're at a
restaurant pregame meal I quote for before our or meal
before our game. I didn't like the empty net goal,
and I don't know if you guys saw it where
the guy's skates were hanging over the boards. It was
shot out of the zone, puck deflected off of a
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player who was going for a change, and it deflected
off of the player into the net.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It was reviewed.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I guess it was allowed because you can't challenge a
stoppage of play from only the offensive zone. I think
that needed to be that goal needed to be disallowed.
I mean, it hits a guy in the bench, goes
in the net. The guy wasn't to be hanging over
the bench. The refs missed at a challengeeship, But it
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was the stoppage of play only in the offensive zone
that you can challenge that. I think that that you've
got to get that right there, and that's something that
needs to be addressed in the in future years.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't know if you guys saw that as well.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, I saw that school day, and that's one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's just a it's it's like the old line cheams.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You could, you know, go off one into the backs,
come on the other end, and in the referees, we're
having hard time picking that up.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Could you challenge that on video? Could you know all
that sort of stuff, It's very similar.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
They's something that will probably get to address, especially in
a rule change here. This will be one that will
be shown to the rules committee as as you know,
an example of a rule that's just a little You've
got plenty of parameters into to call back goals that
just don't make sense. That goal doesn't make sense. It's
it's a player that that shouldn't even been on the ice.
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The pop really technically should be in the bench in
my opinion, in that slade.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I mean his leg was over the boards to change
that he was changing for the guy who shot the puck,
and the guy wasn't even close to it. I mean
it's I think the NHL put a rule in this
year if you're sitting on the bench in that scenario,
there's a warning that you can get too many men
in the ice penalty delay a game.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I don't know the actual wording of.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The call, but I thought that goal should have been disloved.
Thank god it wasn't. In a it was three nothing
at the time, not one nothing because that could have
really changed the game because it should have been icing
or into the bench, like you said. So just an
interesting little way that game ended in the four nothing
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first one.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know, you bring up a thought because I've noticed it.
Do we have too many stoppages because players are leaning
over too much on the bench.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, there's a new thing that guys like to sit
on the bench or sit on the board. So I
think it's a junior hockey thing. And I've been on
my guys about sitting on the bench, like you don't
see NHL players sitting on the bench like that. It's
I think a junior hockey thing. And yeah, I think
there needs to be something addressed on that. I think,
like I said, the NHL has addressed legs hanging over
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the boards. I think you see Koocher Rock did it
all the time, and I think the NHL's addressed. I
think that that needs to be addressed in our game
as well.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Number four Boston University and number eleven Connecticut going into
the weekend, they reverse split their home and home series,
with the visitors winning each night. Ride a crazy offensive
explosion totally twelve gold. But with that one b you
had leads of two nothing, three, two, four to three
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before they ended up losing eight to four. Meanwhile, down
in Stores, it was more of what you would expect
between these two teams. A three one decision for be
you Mikyle you goovs twenty four of twenty five a
night after he allowed six goals on twenty six shots
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before he got pulled. So what about that kind of
a contrast between the teams and winning.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
On the road for both of them. I was really
shocked with that Friday game.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I don't think either coach probably enjoyed coaching in that
game watching twelve goals. Maybe Mike tavanof enjoyed that, you know,
end of the second into the third period of getting
the last five. But that's not the defensive structure that
both of these coaches played TODs.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Things changed a lot on Saturday. That was a more
typical game.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I was probably a little concern for BU coming off
being swept at Ule against Michigan State, then having that
two and nothing lead, the three, two, fourth, three leads,
and then you know, losing that game.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Eight to four.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That probably really stung more so even than the Michigan
State weekend did. I know that ot loss on Saturday
against Michigan State was top.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But thence back to go down.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It was a five o'clock sorry, I believe on Saturday,
so you had a shorter turnaround. You're traveling, both teams
are traveling, you're going down to stores. I mean that
I thought was a really good bounce back. And that's
that's my first extremely positive sign for this Boston University
team this season. I think there'll be more of them.
I was getting nervous though, so I think that's a
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really good sign.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, I'm interested to see how Yukon does this coming
weekend against Merrimack. I think we're going to really see
what kind of uh, you know, team both of them are.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Because of Merrimack has been a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
An up and down and then you got that that
weird split that you talk about there and Hockey East
is is a is kind of iMac who right now
technically is in first place because they've played a few
more games, and then you got Yukon right after him.
I think that you'll see who is who's going to
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be for real on there, and this is one of
those it's a one game deal.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
They just planned Saturday night, and.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Basically you've got Merrimack who beats Quinnipiac number six.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Then they lose the Long Island. Which real Merrimack are
there first place? East?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Are they the team that lost to Long Island? And
Yukon is coming off a big split with you. It'll
be an interesting weekend for them.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
One more series to look at. Struggles continuing for Minnesota.
They went into the weekend at number twelve. Surprisingly they
didn't drop out of the poll that came out today.
They're number nineteen in the poll, still getting a little
reputation there from the voters, but they were swept home
at home with Minnesota Duluth three nothing in four to one. Meanwhile,
(24:49):
Minnesota Duluth somewhat out of nowhere is all the way.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Up to seven to one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And oh and I say out of nowhere, not because
because d Luth hasn't been a eight team over the years,
but they've had a couple of down seasons. They are
off to a terrific start. They are actually number ten
in Monday's USCCHO poll.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A good job by the voters to get to loute
to number ten for a job to lead Minnesota. Yet, seriously,
this team's two to five and one. They're not a
nationally racing team right now. There's there were so many
teams that I thought could have been ragged this week.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
From outside the top forty. I think I brought two
or three.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Teams and from outside the top twenty onto my ballot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Miami being one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We've mentioned already, But god, let's let's start with Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm not even gonna beat up on Minnesota right now.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I'm just gonna try to praise Minnesota to loute because
what a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
That is for Scott Sandal and his team.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They've had a.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Great start to this season. That's a city that was
dying to get back. They won their a couple of
national championships not too long ago, and they really wanted
to get back to that place there now.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And I think that now that you're going.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
To start NCAAC play, you're going to see this is
going to be a team that'll be great in the mix.
Put them up with Denver, North Dakota. I think d
Luth is right there in the NCC mix. Well, that's
what we talked about last week.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
We talked about we were shocked at which Minnesota team
was had a winning record and which one didn't, And
it was the one that was into Luth compared to
the one that was in the Cities. And the one
that's in the Luth still rolling along and the one
that in the Cities is still struggling a little bit.
You're going to see right now, big, big weekend North Dakota.
(26:38):
North Dakota to open NCCHC play for Duluth. And like
you said, not to beat up on, not to beat
up on the Gophers, but they got to get right
against Wisconsin this weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
These are two massive weekends for both Minnesota teams. Right now.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You got the Louth to show that they're for real
against the against the fighting Hawks, i'ma said the fighting
to the fighting Hawks.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
After a long trip going from east to west.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
For North Dakota, it'd be a little bit different, difficult
because they're not used to be being traveling from the
East coast all the way back home. But now they've
got the Bulldogs and then you've got the Gophers. They've
got to get right somehow. And both kind of rivalry.
You got Scottie sandlind rivalry with North Dakota. You've got
the Minnesota Wisconsin rivalry. Both those teams got to get
(27:29):
right here.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And I guess I shouldn't say it. The Loop's not
got to get right, but the Loo's got to prove
that they're for.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Real right and Jim, we're looking pretty smart about what
we said about those two teams in our Friday podcast
this week.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, we fought it our pizza money bet the strong underdog.
There were a ton of big underdogs, but Dluth was
one on on Sriday Night. I thought that was very surprising.
Regardless they got the win. I say that I would
never exuicize the pizza bed. I don't bet any anyways,
but I would never take my five keep my plagu Also,
(28:07):
the piece that I said this was the week delay
it Leonard Deluxe. And yes, we all did come out
we'll be a little smarter, but I don't think that
was a tough ultimate though too bad.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You know, I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're just about out of time, so we'll wrap it
up here, don't forget. On Wednesdays, we have a pond
further review our Wednesday episode where we pick up another
topic we didn't have room four on Monday and talk
about it in depth and we're going to talk a
little bit more about what we touched on today, about
how good everybody is and what's going on this season.
(28:37):
So for Jim Connolly, for Derek Scooley, I'm Ed Trevsker
and this has been usc CHO Weekend Review.
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