Natal Charts & Planetary Energies with Aurorah Yarberry

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Speaker 1 (00:35):
And stay act to believe in a.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whichever the case may be.
For all of you listening out there across the crazy
planet Earth, Welcome to Vestiges after Dark and I am

(02:09):
your host, Bishop Brian Will Let come into you lie
from the deep woods of Western Georgia on this October fourteenth,
twenty twenty five. Well, get ready to learn a little
bit about yourself, because tonight we explore the realm of

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astrology with our returning guests a Rora Yarberry. She is
prepared to actually read your charts. We'll give instructions as
to how that can be done during this episode without
giving away too much personal information. Don't worry about that.
But it's going to be, I think, an exciting adventure
to learn what the cosmos has to say about you.

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That's tonight on Vestiges after Dark. Hello, everybody, Welcome to

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a brand new Vestiges after Dark. Once again, I am
your host, Bishop Brian will Let here with my co
host Jamie Wolf. Hey everybody, I want to thank everyone
for being with us tonight. I hope you enjoy tonight's show.
I think it's going to be a great experience. To
learn more about this very misunderstood I would call metaphysical

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science of astrology. It's ancient and it is useful, and
it's definitely not the horoscope that you see in your newspaper.
I mean not that anyone has newspapers anymore, the daily horoscope,
but it's not like that. Far more sophisticated. And tonight
we're going to get into all of that. And if
you're interested in getting your chart read by URR tonight,

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that's going to come up here in hours two and three.
You can go ahead and email Brandon. I put that.
I'm going to put that on the screen right now
for you. Go ahead and email Brandon your your chart information.
What he needs in order to be able to send
this on to our guests tonight to so that she

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can read your chart is basically your first name, your
birth date, the time of birth is accurate as you
can get it, and the city and state and country
whatever the circumstances might be where you were born. Send
those three pieces of information to the email on screen

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Brandon dot Myelind dot vestages at gmail dot com, and
he will get it over to our guest tonight. And
you know, depending upon how many come in. You know,
you might get picked. Hopefully everyone will have a chance
to get some information. But you can also call into
the show, but I would encourage you to. I would
actually encourage you to call into the show if you're
going to get read. And then Brandon, can you know,

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help a row or find which chart belongs to you
based upon the email. But this is so that you
don't have to give personal information over the air and
tell people for your birth date and all that information.
She might not want to do that. Some of you
might not want.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I would suggest you do.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's probably not a good idea. So here's your chance
to do it privately off the air, but still be
read on the air. Okay, So Aurora will have what
she needs, but nobody else needs to know it. Okay.
So I'll leave that up there so that you guys
can go ahead and start sending your charts to Brandon
now right. Make sure you put your first name in
there so that when you call in or if you're
in the chat or whatever however you wish to communicate

(06:27):
with our guests tonight, you know he'll be able to
find your chart, help Aurora find it, so that we
can see what she sees about you know what the
cosmos has to say about you that's coming up on
hours two and three. You can always ask questions just
related to astrology as well. Doesn't have to be all
chart reading, but tonight was set up to be about
reading the natal charts of whoever might be interested. Okay,

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and what do they do with it? They irresponsibly, they

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this show. So joining us from Australia, we have father

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Chris with us. How you doing tonight, Father.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Hell, I'm doing well. Thanks.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I was just winding people up in the group chat
because Brandon put out that you need to send you know,
your place of birth you know, state, Yeah, city, state,
and I said or country, country, country, ye, country.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Province if you're it could be a province too. It
helps with province. Yeah, it helps with the I don't
I believe her already uses software, particularly on a show.
You've got to do it quickly, so the calculations could be,
you know, pretty involved if she's doing it by hand.
But most of the software, you know, is going to
ask for that basic data, so make sure that you

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you know, you give all of it because that's going
to help to get the most accurate response, you know.
And the big issue is really going to be the time.
A lot of people don't know their time of birth,
so try to get that out there too. But thank
you for father.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Especially when I think I was forty three when I
when this topic came up. So I asked my mother
what time I was born, and you know, it was
forty three years ago. So but she did she did remember. Actually,
I was quite impressed with her for that. I was
I was the third Normally by the time you have
your third child, like I don't know, it was some

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time in the afternoon.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
I'm just kind of reflecting on what you were saying
earlier about you know, people wanted to put people in boxes.
It's actually quite a good example of this recently, and
you know this this time it's Christians trying to put
people in boxes. Your president said on the plane, you know, oh, well,
you know, why do you want to do the peace deal?

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He said, well, I want to get into heaven. I
think it's probably too it's probably too hard for me.
Probably not, Yeah, I would like to get right And
so instantly.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
The smartest thing said Christian.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Actually what what what he said was like exactly exactly
how Christians always envisaged our relationship with heaven until you
know Calvinism and the other but instant Q all of the.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Calvin Is saying, oh he doesn't know of his certain hope.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm like, no, actually you are.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
But again, so what he said was was probably the
most I mean apart from it being I think, you know,
authentic Christians soteriology of never ever presuming that your place
in heaven and you know, we are supposed to be
the tax collector, Lord have mercy on me, a sinner,
the Pharisee. Oh, I'm so grateful that I'm not like
this horrible public or so you know. It's it's it's

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interesting how Christians can be amongst the worst of wanting
to box people in. It's like the wisest thing he's ever.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Said, probably is I saw, ironically, you know, because Trump
Trump loves him. But I saw this, Uh this this
thread online about Charlie Kirk, and people are asking is
did Charlie Kirk go to heaven? Like anyone could possibly
answer that? But you know, uh, one of the responses

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in there was the complete opposite of what Trump said,
is that if you don't know, if you're not absolutely
certain that you're going to heaven, then you need to
go and really rethink your relationship to Jesus. There's something
wrong with it.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
For the reason you think for the reason you think, right,
you know, have mercy.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
So it's like that's the problem, is that the churches
are teaching people that having a you know, having being
secure in your relationship to Christ means that you've got
a get out of jail free card, a sure fire
ticket into heaven. No questions asked.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
About.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
I mean because because the source of churches, well, you know,
I've been kind of you know, I came to faith
through a Baptist church when I was seventeen, but then,
you know, my ministry has been in the very you know,
high Catholic end of the church. And every time there's
been especially when I was an Anglican, there was this

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tendency from I was sorry to pick on baby boomers,
but this is tendency from boomers to say, oh, you know,
perhaps you should do more of this. And by more
of this, they mean more of the sort of church
expressions that come out with stuff like that, because.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
What they what they and I understand it.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
I mean, it's it's a short, sharp message, okay, and
it's a simple mess. I would say, it's a simplistic message.
It's also it's also an error as a result, but
you can see what the temptation because if you give somebody,
oh look, you know, just say these they say these,
it's actually a form of magic. Say these magic words,

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and now you're you know, you're all righteous again. And actually,
especially for people who've been in terrible situations sin and
you know, which we all have from time to time,
it's understandable why that's appealing and why therefore, why you
get this sort of big growth, this big influx of
people responding to a simple message that offers them hope. Okay,

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but here's the problem. They don't stay there because that
simple message gets unraveled because life is not simple, and
our freedom and the freedom of others constantly screw it up.
And so they we always say, you know, they've got
these very big front doors, these sorts of churches, but

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they've also got very big back doors, and so they
kind of flow in and they flow out.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And even bigger classets with lots of skeletons in them.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Well, absolutely, hope. The only hope is that they find
their way to something a bit more.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I don't want to say sophisticated, because I don't mean
it in a in a sort of you know what
a wiser a wiser, more integrated sort of revelation of
Christ's Church. Now, we would say, and the Catholic Church
is obviously the most ancient and therefore best version of that.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
But it is, you know, for people who are.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
If their faith is the size of the mustard seed,
you know, and they're really wounded and all the rest
of it. I you know, I can see how those
sorts of messages appeal to them. But I would say
that actually the truth is even more beautiful and more
accepting and will last you.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Not only a lifetime but into all eternity.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Because it doesn't have this sort of simplistic vision of saying,
say Jesus is Lord, and then everything's wonderful. We say, no, no,
say Jesus' Lord. Be back Tighes and come to confession,
and I'll see you in confession next week. And I'll
see you in confession next week, and I'll see you
in confession next week. All the way as you try
and get better and better and more aligned to the

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image of Jesus Christ. That's the true message of the church.
And when you fail, you don't get kicked out the
back door.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well said, Well said, joining us from Tennessee, we have Brandon,
mylem how are you, Brandon?

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I'm good, actually, Father Chris, which you said, reminded me
a little bit of one of the stories in the
Webinar where you're talking Bishop about the body stavo Val
where the monk asks all these questions. So what if
after every person gets into nirvana, every blade of grass,

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what happens then? And he's told then your work can begin. Yeah,
so that's kind of what that reminded me of the.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Three in Measurables. See, Buddhism has a really unique way
of putting things into perspective, and it actually has a
really firm grasp of the concept of eternity. It really
does far better than I think the West does. It
really understands eternity in a very complex way, but in
a way that's so complete that it actually makes it

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more comprehensible than sort of just like writing it off
to mystery. But anyway, I know that you've got some
questions tonight, so let's get into questions from the ether
and see where that takes us.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
All right, So I.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Did go easy on you all this week, so get prepared.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
First question, in one of the later parts of The
Magic unit. You had discussed how you're successful about exercis
in ministry by lowering your vibration level to be closer
to the entity in question and then raise your vibration
or something around those lines. Could you explain that a
bit more.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, So this is a metaphysical question in one of
the ways in which I think one could see where
I use my understanding of metaphysics in my ministerial work.
In other words, I don't just resort to one world
view in order to do my work. Well. Uh, I

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of course take the with the church gives us the
tools of the church, and that's paramount, But I also
use my understanding of metaphysics to kind of fill in
the gaps, because, believe it or not, not everything one
sees in exorcism ministry or spiritual problem resolution ministry, deliverance ministry,

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whatever you want to call it, whatever name you give
to it, not everything everyone will see in this work,
if you will work at it long enough, is going
to fit into the box of the Roman Catholic Church.
In fact, most of it doesn't. I think you know
most of it does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you

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would be you know, you're a great example of that.
I think I'm gonna put you over here a little
bit more so that you're more on screen there you
But yeah, I think a lot of people, uh don't
really understand that. So one of the things that I,
you know, do when I am working a case, particularly
if it's a difficult case or if you know, information
is hard to come by, And it's not something that

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I would teach people or suggest anyone does. It's just
something that comes very natural to me because of my
background and and the fact that my what didn't always
spend all my time as a bishop. I used to
do other things and study other things, and metaphysics was
a paramount part of a paramount importance in my life,

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and it taught me some great things that I took
with me into my Christian life. And I didn't just
abandon those things because you know, they were I didn't
see Christianity as replacing them. I saw them as as
enhancing what I already knew. And so I answered this
by simply saying that vibration. Everything in the cosmos is

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basically vibration in geometry. That's it. Now we use our brain,
our mind, or as the agents would have called it,
the psyche or what translates as soul. We use that
to filter all that information, all that energy and vibration,
and make some kind of image with it. So that way,
when I look at a table or a computer mouse,

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or a cell phone or you know, a sign, a
neon sign, we can all look at that and agree
that that's what those things are. It's just energy and
vibration that makes it exist. But our brain distills it
into something comprehensible. Our psyche distills it into something comprehensible.

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And so vibration is like a radio. Okay, it's like
tuning radio. I mean, we don't really use radios that
much anymore, but I think that's the most cars still
have them. And you can, you know, go through the
different channels, right and uh. And as you if you
if you're using like an old radio where you have

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to like literally turn the dial, you can find where
the signal comes in strong and you can actually kind
of fine tune it. And if you go too far
in one direction, it starts to get staticky to the
point that you then won't hear the signal anymore. You're
no longer in frequency. So sometimes what one needs to
do to do this work effectively, because you're dealing with

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a lot of things what we call paranormal disturbances or
spirits or you know, ghosts or whatever they might be,
you know, are the reason that we don't readily see
them as tangible realities. Why people so intangible are they
that some people don't even believe in them? And the

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reason for this is because they are operating at a
vibration that is so different from the one that we
vibrate at our frequency then that we can't it's trying
like listen. It's trying to like listen to a channel
that you're not tuned to. So for me, I find

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it easier to change my frequency just enough to be
able to pick up on the energy that's there by
either lowering it or raising it, depending upon what needs
to happen. Usually it's having to lower it because most
of these things that are disturbing people are operating at
lower frequencies. And as I do this, I get a

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clearer picture as to what is there and gives me
better insight, and then I can use that information to
draft a solution that is effective. Now, the reason I
wouldn't teach this methodology to people is because if you
really don't know what you're doing, and it's very easy
to make a mistake, even for someone that has been

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doing this as long as I have. You can easily
obtain your own attachment this way, because that's essentially how
attachments happen, is that through neglect, apathy, you know, sinful life, whatever,
you lower your vibration to a point that you can't
raise it back, and now you start to vibrate with

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these lesser things that we would associate with the demonic realm,
and that's how you end up getting an attachment. Use
I'm not saying only sin is the only way to
get an attachment. Sometimes it's just having low frequency vibration.
Depression can cause it, trauma causes it all the time.
These are all low frequency vibration responses. It brings you down,

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all right. And that's why church is so important, because
church raises vibration, brings you up to more of like
a celestial, angelic kind of frequency, which is so far removed,
like even for the remove than we are from this
demonic realm, that it kind of makes you impervious to
those things if you, you know, do it enough. That's

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why prayer is important. That's why Mass and the sacraments,
all these things, what we call grace is really vibration rising.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Really, you got the singing, you've got the the the
incense with the bells, all that's higher vibration.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It is, it is, so that's that's how, that's what
it is. So you know, by lowering the vibration, we
can get a bitter picture as to what we're dealing with.
And it is. It is an absolutely horrifying experience. Another
reason not to do it because when you start to

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see reality that way, it changes you. It changes you
in ways that there's no coming back from.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, that's why, you know, especially you being the facilitator,
that's why we're so tired after an investigation, especially him.
You need several days of recovery. Even it may look
simple on like say on TV, what what we do,
But the reality of it is it knocks you down
because you're you're messing with your vibration rate.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It absolutely does. And even expanding that energy weakens your vibration.
It's almost like you're straining it to a point that
it starts to degrade.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
The more you two am tacos, I'm telling.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
You that grease, the grease brings it back up. True,
it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I'm always exhausted mass.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, yes, I mean, you're not wrong on that. There
is an energy.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
It's a nice exhaustion. It is kind of a nice exhaustion.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Well, as long as you haven't got you know, a
cue prishners saying, oh.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
You know, let's talk about the broken urn.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know, we have to explain that one.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
I mean, I'm sorry, we say boiler in England.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
You don't like okay, oh okay, I got you that.
I thought you're.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
But no, it was the same for It's the same
for me.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
I've just been in cultuated into Australia.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I gotcha, but no. The reason that is, though, father,
is that even you, when you raise your vibration, it's
exhausting to you because we operate at a lower vibration than
the celestial. So prayer, sacraments, even doing too much church
right can actually become a source of fatigue until one's

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vibration can be raised enough to where that becomes baseline.
And I'll be honest.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Holy Week.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Holy Week is a great example of how draining it
can get. It's too much. It's too much.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
It really is is people have no idea.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
What it's like.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
No, no clue because I'm thinking me, I love all
of the services of Holy It's not like I hate
Holy Week.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I love it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I love it too.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
It is exhausting.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It is just it is. You just don't Your vibration
is just not naturally that high.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean, I mean people will say, oh, your
clogy is because you only work one day a week
and that you've got to work every day. It's like, yeah,
I was a cop for ten years and worked physically
a lot harder.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Holy Week is a lot more tiring.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah it is. It really is, and I don't think
people get that, but different kind of stress once you
if you can, like this is why monasteries exist and
why monks go off to abandon everything to be in
the monastery because what you know the first few years
is hard. But once you get past that, your vibration
starts to go to such a degree that then eventually
become incompatible with the world entirely. And there's really now

(33:48):
true coming back down from that. It's really painful if
you try not that.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
It doesn't ironic, isn't it, Because they tend to be
very still and quiet places.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
They really are. Yeah, but the vibrations so ugh.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
It really is the reversal of that. But it's fatiguing
either way. Either way, either way, it's exhausting. So there's
your answer.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
So the next question is from April. How do you
identify if there's an object that has been cursed? And
what of individuals who take the cursed object with them
and store it. Does the object then start causing them problems?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, the answer is in the question. The way we
identify a cursed object is if there is something that
is identifiable that's causing the family problems. And the curse
doesn't necessarily mean somebody took something and literally put a
curse on it using witchcraft or something. It can just
mean that something has developed a negative attachment that is

(34:47):
making a person or everyone in the house sick. And
so if we can identify that the attachment is to
an inanimate object, which in many cases it is usually weak.
Attachments tend to go towards inanimate objects, and we can
identify what object this is, then we can take care
of it. And if it's something that is not terribly important,

(35:11):
like a mirror or a piece of jewelry or something,
then we can destroy it. If it happens to be
something that can't be easily gotten rid of, like a house,
well then that's when it comes down to. We can
try our best to exercise it. Sometimes it's just better
to move, you know. It really depends on the circumstances.

(35:32):
But the way we identify it is is by going
through the case history and trying to find the source
of the problem. When did the problems begin? Did they
buy something new? Did they go to in a state sale,
did they find something at an auction that is market Yeah,
anything like that. Well, these are questions we ask and

(35:54):
a lot of times yeah, you know, actually I went
and I got this thing. And that's really around the
time it start.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Start the first question with are there any ashes in
the house.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's always the first question. Yeah, yeah, because that your cases,
it really is, it really is. In many cases it is.
And I mean I wouldn't call that a cursed object person,
but you handle it very much the same way. I mean,
you don't destroy ashes, you bury them.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
But my my one of my daughters, she's she's in
an apartment with you know, a friend of hers, the
sharing apartment and this friend brought brought a rug.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
It's like it's polished concrete surface.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
They didn't like it. So I've got this rug. And
of course my daughter assumed that she got it from
a second hand store or something like that. Turned out
she got it from the side of the road, and
so now she's covered in bites. It's probably full of
bed bugs or fleas or something.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh my god, probably it was on the road.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
So but but you know what you described.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Similar things can happen if you go you know, yeah,
you can find a bargain in.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
A second hand shop, an antique shop, all the rest
of it. But you don't know it's history.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah, that's not a reason not to get it, of course,
But what just like she said, oh, I wonder why
I've got all these bikes.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Now, maybe it's the rug.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
If all of a sudden you've got some kind of
spiritual dilemma, that's that's that's recurring in the property or
in your life, and you think, I wonder if it
was attached to that thing I just bought from.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
You know, the bizarre.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
We had a case, I mean, we had a case
out in East Atlanta where we were getting spikes on
all the equipment near and around and under this lady's bed,
to the point where the bishop asked her, you know,
how long have you had this bet or this mattress?
And very similar She basically found it on the side

(37:49):
of the road and thought it was a decent shape
and brought it into the house and chaos ensues. And
I think you used a couple of bottles of holy
water on that bad boy. Sounds like that was the
source of the paranormal activity that was. That was an
odd case. It was just kind of all those words,

(38:10):
how long you had the oh I found her on
the road, Well, that might be a problem.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
It's probably It's why you know, certainly exorcism cases are
part detective, part priests, definitely, you know. I mean, I
think I've mentioned on the show before where and it
took a long time to figure this out because you know,
it starts with.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Oh, would you goona bless my house, father, which is not.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
An unusual thing for someone to ask, And then it's
kind of oh, would you come and bless it again? Okay,
and then you find out there's something going on, and
long story short, there's an object in the house, which
in this case was an icon of the Last Supper,
by the way, so it's a Christian image.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
The last thing that you'd probably you know, go to,
which was president.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Yeah, it was present in the house in Eastern Europe
where a black magic ceremony took place, you know, which
was which wasn't the fault of this person, but these
objects to come with them, and I was like, I think.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
That might be the problem, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I mean, and that can be it. I mean people
would think, oh, it's a religious object, but see that
should What we've been trying to tell you all this
time is that religious objects are not talismans, even when
they're blessed. Okay, They're just objects, and they can pick
up vibrations as negative as anything else. Can you know,
an image of God is not God, all right, It
is a holy image in a faithful way.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
But I was able to read, I was able to
rehallow that. I mean, I celebrated the mass.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Usually all it takes this the corporal I used it
as the as the anti mention.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
There you go, they'll do it, and you know, did resolve.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, perfect, yeah, perfect. Now the second part of this
question is then, what of individuals who take the christ
object with them and store it. Well, they're probably going
to have problems, you know. But if you're talking about
things like you know, the war and Museum or the
haunted Museum of zach Began's, Uh, you know, there's different

(40:03):
ways of processing that. Now, in some ways, the better
thing to have done is to destroy these objects with
the holy fire. That is the that is our procedure
that definitively takes care of everything I can. I can
tell you that now won't necessarily take care of people
that still harbor harbor the attachment, but as far as

(40:25):
the object goes, the source of the attachment is broken
at that point. So holy fire is the best way.
That's not always something you're going to see happen, and
and there's certain situations where it's not necessary. And so
you know, as long as you're collecting these things and

(40:45):
literally securing a place just for this purpose, assuming certain
you know, blessings are are held in place and maintained,
there's actually nothing wrong with doing it. Now. I know
the Warrens our controversial group, you know, I don't even
know the degree. I know the stories that they put

(41:07):
things that from their cases that were either haunted or
had attachments in this uh and and there. I think
it was in their house or garage in their house.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Was it maybe the attached building building They've got it warded,
and that they have a honeywater procedure they do, and
I think I heard that they bless it like several
times a week. I don't know what the procedure is now.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I mean that was when she was alive. I don't
know what they're doing anymore.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Though, with with mister Spara, now that it's not no
longer under his care, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I don't know, so I mean, assuming they actually were
doing that, I don't know enough about that. I never
met the warrants, so I don't really know. But I mean,
assuming they were doing that, then there's really nothing wrong
per se. I don't know about the tourism aspect of it.
That's problematic, but you know, people are going to do

(41:57):
what people are going to do. As far as that museum,
I doubt that Zach's going to really run into any
problems there as long as he's not like sleeping there.
I mean, if he spends a lot of time there,
which I guess is possible, that could affect people over time.
The employees could be affected over time. I think he
has a pretty high turnover, doesn't Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
There, yeah, quite a while. But I think the average
turnover is like two years.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I think that's as much as you can take, you know.
So I wouldn't recommend it, but you know, it's better
than it being in people's houses. And I mean even
we sometimes will get cases with I don't like. I
don't like throwing dolls. I don't like throwing effigies in
holy fires. I throw you know, pure inanimate objects are fine.

(42:44):
Effigies I have a problem with. So, like like Father
Chris's Last Supper painting there, I would not assuming the
mass that he did would not have worked. It's possible,
depending upon the level of attachment, that even that might
not be enough to salvage it. Where maybe holy fires,
and I still wouldn't do that. I would What I
would do is I'd exercise the the the artifact, and

(43:06):
then I would send it away to a place where
it can just be stored properly. So I have actually
sent many objects to the Haunted Museum for Zach to
store away when they are effigy related. It's the only
thing I don't throw into holy fires, and I have
different reasons for that, which we can get into at

(43:28):
another time, but it's more complex than than I can
probably answer here now. But everything else is fair game.
Ouiji boards, books, anything that, jewelry, anything. I mean, I've
destroyed a lot of things. In fact, we even had
something that was jewelry's goal. We had to melt it
down and it was it was, it was melted down

(43:48):
and destroyed. I mean, it was.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Actually kind of odd how quickly it melted. I think
it was. I think it was solid brass.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
No, No, you're talking about the bill. Yeah, I'm talking
about an actual piece of gold jewelry. It might have
been before your time. No, we actually had to have
I had, I had, I had the members of my
team that had access to one of those blast furnaces
that could go yeah, and they could, they could spelt
it down and it just and then it just it

(44:17):
got liquefied and dissolved and mixed in with other things
and they just threw the whole thing out.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
To connect on that too, if we ever need them again.

Speaker 9 (44:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Where I spend most of my you know, Public Ministry
Church was down the road from the biggest aluminium smelter
in Australia.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Oh you can use that.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
That is and yeah, honestly that's the best way to handle.
So essentially what we would do is we'd exercise the
object and then and put it in a whole. If
it's if it's if you can save it and for
the day you have a holy fire, then you can
just throw it into the holy fire. If it's something
that is metal or something that probably wouldn't you wouldn't

(44:57):
be destroyed fully in a hole in a in a
normal fire, then we can do that, smelt it down.
You know. We had a goaz on once that that
rectaboc sh killed my cat. Yeah, it tried to attack me,
attacked your car.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
It, yeah, killed my battery and I saw it.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, and you get to see it. That was a problem.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
That was strange, and he.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
That's that's the one where we had a skull coming
up out of the flames. You weren't there for that, no.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
But you sent it to me. I was. I was
actually at work, I was still a cop and you
sent me the still shots of it, and I was like,
that's pretty compelling. That doesn't look like paradolia and aud
it looked like flesh burning.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
We didn't. We couldn't capture it with video very well
for some reason. But with the naked eye, it stayed,
it held its shape. It was and that's what it was.
It wasn't paradolia in the sense you just take a
still shot of a flame and say, oh, well, that's what.
It stayed, looking like a skull and it and it
kind of screamed a little bit. It was really a

(45:57):
very interesting sound.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
It sounded like a high But.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
When it killed the cat, that was it. We were
we were saving a special day for Jamie to come
over to take care of that with me. And when
it killed the cat, I'm like, Tracy, I'm done. We're
going to kill that that that that fucking thing. And
we did. And we never had a prejudice. With prejudice
yet we didn't have anything again. I mean, sometimes you
just have to take it, you know, like that and
so cursed objects execution. Seriously, I don't keep cursed objects

(46:26):
on property anymore because of that. What happened was we
had assualt seal. Somebody disrupted the seal and it got out.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
I think what happened was because it was your garage.
I think maybe some some uh, a breeze got underneath
it and broke broke.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
The seal, probably, but it was the day that the
seal broke, that was the day that we had all
the problems it did. So there you go. That's uh,
that's that's the cursed object, and hopefully that answers the question. Fascinating, yep,
it is.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
So the final question is a little of a lengthy one.
But I was listening to one of the rabbi that
I go to when I had a question specific to Judaism,
and I'm confused regarding the understanding, or at least their
understanding of the Messiah. Based on my understanding, the Messiah
archetype didn't originate alongside Judaism, rather during the Babylonian exile,

(47:21):
which this human ruler from the lineage of David would
rebuild the temple among other things. The exile ended when
Cyrus the Great conquered Babylon and allowed the exiles to
return and rebuild the temple. So based on the history,
the temple had already been rebuilt. Therefore, one of the
things that Messiah was said to do was done, or

(47:43):
was it meant to be a temple that would stand indefinitely.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Well, see, from the Christian vantage point, it was absolutely
supposed to be a temple that would stand in definitely,
just not the kind of temple you're expecting. The Second Temple,
though from a Jewish perspective, was never intended to be
the final one. It was the Messiah was expected to
restore the entire Davidic monarchy and liberate the Jewish people

(48:10):
from the tyranny of Rome, you know, and basically all
these other all these other tyrants, you know, which was interesting,
the whole Babylonian exile things. So you know, they had
a lot of problems, they were put into captivity several times,
and you know this this led to I think almost
a need to be saved and a desire to be saved.

(48:32):
And this is really sort of the precursor to understanding
the need for Christ. But again, Jewish people never made
that lead. Christians did. But the whole point here was
that this Messiah, for both Jews and Christians, would lead
everyone into a more perfect understanding of God that would
lead to a state of permanent universal peace. Now, ultimately,

(48:55):
this is the Kingdom of Heaven for Christians, for the
Jewish people of that time, however, it was seen as
a very physical thing that would happen on earth. But
from our vantage point, from the Christian advantage points, everything
that Jesus accomplished and no one else really could ever
really accomplished. But he did. I mean, you think about it,
he did overthrow Rome, not the way the Jewish people

(49:17):
wanted him to or expected him to, but he did.
He it became the base of Christian Church and it
still is. I mean, I don't know how much more
you need from God to convince you that that he
overthrew Rome, but I mean it became the center of
the capital of Christianity and still is. And even if
you're not a Catholic, everybody listens to the pope. Even

(49:40):
Protestants still pay attention to what the Pope's doing. That's
how significant.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Than anybody else. I think they do write him.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
I think as it aside, by the way, when your
president went to the Kiness he was, he was lauded
as being.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
He'll be remembered in Jewish history just like Syrus the
Great was. Interestingly so.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
But to bring it back to the Messianic figure, when
when we conduct baptisms, following the baptisms are the anointing,
and we say, as Christ was anointed priest, prophet and king.
And so really the sire is is not about the
rebuilding of a temple in terms of the Second Temple,

(50:30):
which was destroyed by the Romans in seventy a d.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
And did not have the did not have the arc
of the covenants, so it never really had the true
presence of God in it.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
That's right, and so and again, I mean, this is
what my my things about.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
But the the in the in the Jewish understanding of
the of the First and Second Temples, you have priests
that offer a victim for the remission of sins of
the people, that shed the blood of an animal. And
of course we believe that because Esus says, you know,
essentially his body is the temple. This temple will be

(51:03):
torn down in three days will be restored. And there
you have the uniting of priest and priests and victim
in Jesus Christ. And so his shedding of blood is eternal,
so that that forgiveness is an eternal offering for all
mankind before and post the resurrection. So the messianic figure

(51:27):
of Jesus does fulfill all of those prophetic predictions of
the Old Testament Isaiah in particular. But like like the
bishop said, it was just in a way that was
not political, not politically expected. It was it was a
politically incorrect Messiah.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I think that's why he wasn't accepted.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
I really do, of course. Well, and in a way
he had to be rejected.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
That's also part of the Messianic narrative.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
That is true.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
You know, the stone that's been rejected becomes the corner still.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
So you know, if you want to read more about that,
read the Book of Hebrews.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
It really does sort of spell this out. Yeah, so
I would.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
Say that, yes, there's a different image of Messiah in
contemporary Judaism, which of course is it's very difficult to
say that that's what the Jews of that period thought
because it's a very very different religion. Really, that's not
me making any comment on their Semitic character. I'm very
prod you, but the you know, look, I think it's

(52:38):
obvious that Jesus is the Messiah, and I think they're wrong.
But but you know, that's okay. I prefer to engage
in the dialogue of saying, you know, rather than saying
you're wrong, and I'm right of saying, well, you know,
explain to me your image of the Messiah, and then
my response is to sort of explain how Jesus fulfills that.

(53:01):
But you know, people, well, the one thing that Protestants
are right about is ultimately it is about making a decision.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Becoming a Christian, whatever Hugh you.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Want to take, is about making a decision and saying, Okay,
I'm now going to put my faith in this. And
what that means, by the way, is not coming to
an altar call and saying okay, accept you now fix me.
It's it's saying okay, I'm now going to It's a
bit like a marriage. I'm now going to grasp hold

(53:34):
of this and come what may, I'm not letting go,
and I'm going to work with all of my strength
to nourish this faith and to share it and pass
it on and find meaning in it.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
That's what it really means to choose Christ.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Well said, yeah, so, I mean, I don't know if
if that's the full answer you're expecting. I mean, I'm
not a Jewish scholar here. I'm certainly not an expert
in Jewish theology. But you know, I think the Messiah
component because it is the foundation to Christianity. You know,

(54:12):
I think it does make some kind of tangible sense,
and that I think you have to question, you know,
and it's not it's not an attack on anyone, but
I think you have to start to question. You know,
here's this guy that came. All right, a bunch of
people said, this is what happened. That person went on
and took over the world, and you guys have been

(54:34):
left behind for all this time, and you still, you know,
all these problems continued on the temple gets destroyed, you know,
then there's the big exile.

Speaker 10 (54:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I think, you know, I think you have to stop
and think, did you miss it? You know, did you
actually miss its?

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Are they would much rather we were Christians than the
not anything else?

Speaker 6 (55:02):
Because you know, I mean Ben Shapiro, for example, is
a great It keeps constantly telling everyone to go to church.
It's interesting, but it's because, of course, from an orthodox
Jewish point of view, their vision as well, you are.
It's actually the same thing. We believe you are connected
to Judaism through following this Jew Jesus.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
And we say, yeah, we are.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
That's exactly Saint Paul's theology we're grafted to the to
the vine through Christ and so on, that we actually
have a common ground.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
And that's why, as.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
Opposed to secular Jews, orthodox Jews are not anti Christian.
I mean, they obviously don't want their fellow Jews to
become Christians, but they but they want Christians to be
Christians because they see that as there is a connection there.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think ultimately, you know, people
are going to find God in their own way, and
I think the Church has become far more enlightened in
recent times and in accepting that than it was in
the past. Uh there was a time where the Catholic
Mass did not pray for Jews, and now now now

(56:14):
we do. You know, it's a part of let me pray. Yeah, yeah,
but I mean what what what it is? It is
it shows that that we understand relationship. I remember, I
remember when I was a seminarian, the Jewish temple that
was literally right next door to uh my parish had

(56:40):
a full renovation. The place was gutted and they had
no place to operate in that time, and our our
pastor said, you can have our our recreation center, which
is very large, probably bigger than than their their little synagogue.
And so we had you know, we were hosting these

(57:00):
Jewish families for for months while their synagogue was being refurbished,
and I thought it was such a delightful thing to see. Yeah,
and uh, and so we had a you know, always
had a good relationship. And of course South Florida has
a lot of Jewish people, so we always always had
a good relationship with them. They always had a good
relationship with me, and the cold Christian Jewish thing really

(57:22):
was never an issue, not really. I mean, fun interesting
debates from time to time, but never any hostilities. So
I'm glad that we've arrived, at least for the most part,
at a place where that's at least at least with
with Catholics. I don't I can't speak for all Christians. Yeah, yeah,
with sincere people, sincere Christians, people that take the religion seriously.

(57:42):
You know, see a lot of value in in in
our Jewish connection, you know, even if it's not a
one through hereditary in a hereditary sense, but it's you know,
one in a spiritual sense, which in my opinion is
even more important. All Right, So we're going to take
our break care when we come back. Or Yarberry is

(58:04):
going to start talking about astrology and taking your questions
and looking at your charts. Make sure you get that
over to Brandon. I'll put it up on the screen
here again when we come back, So don't go away, Joy.

Speaker 11 (58:23):
Darn you.

Speaker 12 (58:26):
Child, Billy scratches surf. This obsession of mind is feeling Ferny.

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I'm apsid time.

Speaker 13 (59:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Did your acutely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
The musics of the feeling slow motion movie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
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Speaker 14 (01:01:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
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Speaker 14 (01:01:56):
Too fast at the center of my attention.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
You've got me so lost.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
I love the way that you know and how the
lucky love gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Maybe and you soon.

Speaker 13 (01:03:44):
Not the way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
You know a meave.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Welcome back everyone to the second hour of Vestiges after Dark.
We are now getting started on our show tonight with
astrology and our wonderful returning guests. Or Yarberry to take
your question and look at your charts and just discuss
what the cosmos has to say about you and the
times we live in. It's going to be an interesting night.

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And I hope that you're getting your birthdaya over to
Brandon so he can get it over to Aurora and
we can find out what she has to say. I'll
put Brandon's email up on the screen here shortly, and
you can also call into the show to talk directly
once we have your chart information. All right, don't go anywhere.

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We'll be back in just a moment. All right, everyone,

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I'm looking forward to this. Our guest tonight is Aurora Yarberry.
She's an artist, writer, and producer whose journey with astrology
began back in two thousand and eight. She's the voice
behind the long running podcast Blood Moon Milk, which she
launched in twenty eighteen to explore the deeper layers of
Western astrology in a way that's as silful as it

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is intellectually grounded. But don't expect daily horoscopes or generic
predictions from Aurora. She's built her reputation by reject those
cookie cutter approaches. Instead, she delivers sharp, intuitive insights through
her newsletter, The Daily Dose, a morning read designed to
help you tune into cosmic energies before your day even begins.

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Aurora brings thousands of years of recorded astrological observation dating
back to the Phoenician era into the modern moment. Using
those historical cycles to help forecast future trends. For her,
astrology isn't fortune telling, It's a tool for mindfulness and growth.
She's a strong advocate for living in rhythm with the

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lunar cycles, using them as a spiritual framework for setting intentions,
adjusting course when life gets turbulent, and stepping into moments
of opportunity with clarity and purpose. Tonight, she joins us
to help demystify natal charts and the planetary energies that
influence them and us. Please welcome Aurora to the show.

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How you doing tonight? Aurora?

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
Hello, I'm doing great. Thank you so much, thanks for
having me back. I'm happy to see you all again.
Happy to be here. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, we had such a great time talking with you
last time. I think it's been way too long. So
we're just so happy that you could take a night
out and spend it with us and with our audience,
and everyone's happy to have you here.

Speaker 9 (01:08:15):
Thank you. It's truly my pleasure. Wanted to come back
a little bit sooner, but I had school. I was
working on a master's degree.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I know that's rough, I know how rough that could be.

Speaker 9 (01:08:29):
Master's degree accomplished unlocked.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, that's fantastic, wonderful, Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:08:39):
But yeah, this year's astrology. I think last year when
we talked, we were getting close to the elections and
you're asking me about what I thought was going to unfold,
and I was like, I don't really make predictions, but
I don't like what I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, yeah, did your feelings come to fruition?

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Yeah, I mean like that's a whole other podcast.

Speaker 9 (01:09:04):
Yeah, No, that's a whole other thing. But it's funny
how like you know, for me, when I look at
astrology and charts and transits alongside you know, headlines and
real life events and things that happen, it is always
a surprise how they show up. But I do get

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a sense of the bullet points and the highlights of
what's coming our way thanks to astrology. But it's interesting
to see it unfold, yes, because the groups will just
show up and surprise you. You think it's gonna zig,
it will still zag, but it will be zigging too,
So it's interesting. I made a TikTok post earlier this year,

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like at the very beginning of the year, and I
was like, this is going to be one of the
most insanely active, intense years of change we've ever lived through. Collectively,
I think that would probably be true for just about everybody,
and I can mark that off the list.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah, I think you were right on target there. I mean,
just even outside of the politics and the volatility that
has come with it, just look at a I as
an instrument for change and what the implications are for that.
I don't know if anybody saw the promotion tonight, but
I use Sore too. And as Timothy he's in the

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chat tonight, he had mentioned to me on the Nicolin
Network that you know, AI has just about gotten rid
of the Uncanny Valley to the point that now it
can produce an image of a person that's fully convinced.
You know, it convinces anyone that it's a real person.
They talk naturally, they have our facial expressions down perfectly.

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This is going to change the world irrevocably, maybe not
necessarily for the for the worse, but it definitely is
going to make it very different. I think a lot
of good things are going to come a lot of
bad things from this as well, just like anything else
that's powerful. But I think that's a mark of this
time too, don't you, Rory. I mean, I think there's
a lot going on here, the least of which is politics.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Oh totally. So like we you know, it's we can
go a lot of different directions with how things are
the way they are. Oh sorry, my have my dog
is here and she likes to chime in sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yes, they love when you talk about spiritual topics.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
She just comes and like hangs out sometimes. But so
I would suggest that Pluto and Aquarius is the most
closely linked transit that is like married to the development
of AI. Aquarius is the sign of technology, and Pluto
is the sign of change, of revolution, of death and rebirth,

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and so like whatever sign it's moving through, it is
changing how that sign acts in the world. For the
last twenty ish years or so, has been traveling through
the sign of Capricorn, so that's major business entities and
government as well. But now it moved into the sign
of Aquarius. And the day that it moved into Aquarius

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for their very very first time was the day that
chat GPT was released.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yea right, No, it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:12:24):
I mean, like whether or not it is the universe
and the cosmos sort of showing up through mundane events
or if it's actually the other way around. People are
planning for it because they know this transit's coming, and
people with deep investment dollar pockets have resources to look
at stuff like this. Who's the same. But it's definitely

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just the beginning of a trend that is going to shift.
I think the landscape of the way that creative content
is made, whether that is I think we've were in
the era at the end of the era of like
big studios making stuff. We're seeing a lot of consolidation,
like the Warner Brothers merger that could be happening with

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Paramount potentially or Netflix or whoever buys it whatever. But
it's like this consolidation of those business entities that used
to be really diverse. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah yeah,
I mean like, but I think that this technology is

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really going to start to democratize who can make what
and what quality that it can be made at, And
like it's going to get to be so good that
like the high school student down the street, instead of
making a Super eight film, they're making an AI film
that is the next Spielberg, you know, but they might

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be able to do it at home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Even the silly intro to this show. I decided, now
that AI has gotten good enough that I can make
of a pretty cool intro. And I just spent a day,
you know, putting together a bunch of goofy Ai videos
and made the intro to this show. And you know,
even just five years ago, you need it. You would
need a Hollywood budget to do what I just did

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in literally a day with AI. It's crazy. And I
did it all for free. I did it all just
with you know, just with I have I pay the
thirty dollars package for yeah, with chat GPT, but I mean,
you know, it was basically free to do.

Speaker 15 (01:14:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
It's it's crazy that I could do this and I'm
not even a film guy. You know, it's insane.

Speaker 9 (01:14:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's getting it. It's getting pretty good. But
I will say that a I will never actually replace
human creativity.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
That's good.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
It's just a mimic, you know. It's it will be
trained on what we decide defeat it. Being mindful of
what we use it for, I think is really important.
And having an ethical approach because it's certainly going to
be one of those things that can be used for
for good or for ill.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
So you know, like, yeah, I like the analogy. You know,
it's a sign writer, not Da Vinci.

Speaker 9 (01:15:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean unless you you know,
yeah yeah yeah. But I do think it's an interesting
tool to use to help you develop your creative workflow
however you want to develop your product, whatever it is
your goal is, use it. Use it to help you

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get like strategized, to keep track of notes, to concept
a business plan. You know, there's lots of leads to
use it to your advantage. Absolutely that are like beneficial.
Where before, yeah, you had to have a team and
you had to network and know people, and you still do,
but it's it's like it's just changing. You know, we're

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on the verge now and it'll really start to happen
next year. We're like at the end of a very
specific chapter in history and on the verge of a
new beginning. And I say that looking at the astrology,
this year isn't a year of endings. Every single planet
is moving science this year, which isn't normal. I don't

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know the last time that actually happened, where like every
single planet moved from one sign to another. You know,
we're used to having the inner planets move, the inner
planets are the Sun, and well you know, Sun's always
on the move, but like Mercury, Mars, and Venus and Jupiter,

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those are the inner personal planets. Those move every year.
The outer planets are slower, and they all have different
like orbit links, and so for them all to change
signs in the same year, and then we have a
really interesting conjunction between Saturn and Neptune next year that
will can be at precisely zero degrees of areas, which

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is the beginning of the zodiac. And so it's two
very strong, very powerful planets coming together for the first
time and thousands of years at that degree. And we
don't really know what that looks like. As astrologers like
we can speculate, but there wasn't really anybody watching and

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paying attention the last time that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Striptically, do you know that that how long ago it
was last time I've looked.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
So the specific thing about it is not there's Saturn
Neptune conjunctions on a regular enough basis, but for it
happening at the zero degree mark of the zodiac, which
is the very beginning that hasn't happened in at least
nine thousand years as far as I can.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Tell, there's no recorded history of this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Recorded history.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 9 (01:18:06):
Have been conjunctions of Saturn and Neptune and different signs,
but it's not in areas that deer degrees that I
can find. Now, if somebody else has found it great,
like let me know, I'll look at it, happy to
hear about it, but like I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
What do you think that means? I mean, I know
that we don't really what would you speculate?

Speaker 9 (01:18:25):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It's your best guess for what that could look like.

Speaker 9 (01:18:29):
So they're both outer planets with strong personalities. Saturn is
used to getting his way, but Neptune is stronger. He's
further out, so he kind of sets the tone like
of the like he kind of makes the rules of engagement.
He's the one who is going to win and overpower

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Saturn's influence. So I look at him as like the
top note of a fragrance, if you will, Like, what
is the thing that this thing feels like? So Neptune
is dreams, it's the subconscious, it's spirituality, and it'll be
in the sign of areas at the very beginning. It's
like big bang energy like Areas is the God of War.

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It's action is creative, it's always moving. It doesn't always
think it is doing. It is just sort of a
gut reaction and stinctual sort of flurry of activity that
I think is going to kick off and then Saturn
will be there too. And I think what Saturn will
do in a positive way is that it will give

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it structure. So whatever this like divinely inspired sort of
spiritual revolution of sorts. Like it's like some people say,
like they think it might be some kind of great
awakening or you know, New Earth or you know, things
like this sort of spiritual enlightenment for all kind of
an event, and you know, I think that's you know,

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a for debate, But I think it could be the
beginning of people looking at maybe science and spirituality as
more of a realistic way to explain stuff and then
really sort of stepping into it and accepting what people
have intuitively felt spiritually for centuries, for you know, since

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time in Memoriam into a way that is like maybe
somewhat more explainable and understood. Maybe like is my sort
of do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
You think aliens might fit into this? Like could there
be an actual disclosure?

Speaker 9 (01:20:36):
I like there's some interesting like Pluto in Aquarius is
the sign of aliens also, and now we've got this
three I Atlas thing coming.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Out of it, Like you got that Harvard professor that's
saying it's a ship, right, Well.

Speaker 9 (01:20:56):
I'd heard that it's split into pieces and the pieces
have been like Manu's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yeah, I've heard that too.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
One things for sure, we can't do a damn thing
about it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:07):
Well, what's interesting is that NASA is not putting out
any information right now because of the it's a government
agency and we're shut down right now, so they're not
doing that. So we have to look to other countries
to kind of help fill in our blank spot. And
it's hard to tell from here what they're saying, like

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if they're saying anything, or there's some things that I've
read that are like this is wild, y'all, you know,
like it's hard to tell like what people are saying
right now. But I think that this universe is far
too big, far too ancient for us to be the
only things that are alive and kicking around.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah, agreed, I agree, And I think just looking at
the way things have been unfolding in just the last
couple of years, really there's something strange going on. I've
been saying that on this show for the last couple
of years, and something strange is going on, and I

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wonder sometimes if it's not being reflected here in these
very bizarre configurations of astrology that you that you've mentioned
that seem to indicate an entirely new reality or being
on the precipice of one.

Speaker 9 (01:22:28):
There are definitely people in the ass like the astrology field,
who speculate that this could be like the uh introduction
or reintroduction to our species to the universe in a
more intergalactic kind of way, and a sort of awakening
of our role in the cosmos.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Oh nannocky, you're coming back, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
I don't know, like, you know, like, if it's going
to happen, it's going to happen under one of these
side one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
Of those theories.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:23:03):
I mean, like, there's a lot of wild stuff happening
astrologically this year, and Aliens is definitely one of those
bullet points where it's like this could definitely be a
real weird possibility.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Yeah, there's also this thing called the human residence. You're familiar, Okay,
So they've been having a lot of energy spikes the
last few weeks, and they're talking about if you have
these symptoms, you're you know, vibrationally connected to it, or
you're more sensitive to it, and all the symptoms that

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they're talking about. I've definitely experienced, you know, insomnia when
you do sleep, you have very vivid dreams, ears, ringing, fatigue, uh,
waking up between two and four in the morning for
no reason, shooting out of bed for no reason, headaches, depression, anxiety,
all just hitting for no reason. I've explained. And I

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just have to cross this group on face Facebook, and
it's been kind of interesting to see the changes every day.
They've have like wide outs on this scene. And it
measures the vibrational resonance of the Earth.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
Correct a great. Yeah, so it is the electromagnetic resonance
of the Earth, which is sort of like the arts
the art the Earth's heartbeat.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 9 (01:24:23):
And I so there's a really great human resonance content
creator named Aaron Brown, and she was kind enough to
come on my show a little while ago because I
stumbled across her, and she does these really lovely daily
updates of the resonance and I was looking at the
resonance charts and astrology transits, and I was like, I

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think that the human resonance is the reflection of the
energy that we are getting after the transits perfect So
their energy is coming to us in a delayed fashion,
just slightly like from the time that it occurs and
then it's showing up in the resonance and then in

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our bodies. And I think that the way people's individual charts,
I have a theory that people of like who have
more Earth signs will react in a different way than
people who have more like air sign energy in their chart,
because not everybody reacts the same way. Like some people
when they get that like white energy, they're just like

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totally drained and out of it, and then some people
are super energized and on. And it kind of depends.
But I'm sort of the opposite of whatever Aaron Brown is.
But I think she's a Virgo. She's Earth energy, strong
Earth energy in her chart, and I'm a lot of fire,
so it kind of makes sense that we would feel
things differently.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
I'm on the water, so I'm all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
You both.

Speaker 9 (01:25:56):
Yeah, intuition is some people say the intuition is the
highest form of intellect.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Well, I'm definitely feeling it. Can I can? I mean
it was almost scary when I started reading into it.
I'm like, I have every one of these symptoms, and
it's the dreams have just been crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
It's been crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
There's a correlation between the astronomy and the that's fascinating
to me. Everything's connected.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
I've gotten so many people emailing me, sending me messages privately,
even sometimes you know, in more public locations, saying that
they feel as though something is not right, like ever
since twenty twenty with the COVID nineteen, that they feel

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like as if we're living in another reality, like as
if the universe change, or like is if somebody changed
timeline and kind of back to the future too, where
we're now on this alternate course. A lot of people
say it feels like this, and I kind of agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
I mean flipped us. Yeah, I'm only.

Speaker 9 (01:27:03):
Well, yeah, I certainly feel like we're living in a
universe where Biff is the president.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
But yeah, I wish you could just go back and
get a casino. You know that was a lot safer
for Biff.

Speaker 9 (01:27:17):
Yeah, right, you know, I mean, like, yeah, I have
been off for a minute, But I don't think i'm
I'm I'm hopeful for the future. I really like, I
feel like we've gone through the hardest parts, but we're not.
We're still the very beginning of this upswing journey from

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the depths of the worst, and we're watching things fall
apart that were built at the tail end of what
I kind of consider like the hardest parts of that,
those energetic transits and so but it kind of has
to happen for there to be enough room for the

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new stuff to grow. And so, you know, the best
thing to do is to mind your business and like
take care of your inner health, like your your emotional
wellbeing and your spiritual life whatever that means for you,
whether you like meditate, go walk in the woods, or
go to church or whatever. Like take care of yourself

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so that you're not overreacting to people who are having
a hard time, and just being kind, you know. And
I really do think that if you can do those
couple of basic things on a daily basis, things will
just work out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I think it will eventually balance itself back. I think
it always does. The universe goes back towards a state
of balance, it's just you know, the cycles for the
universe are much larger than anything we experience, so it
feels like a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:28:51):
Yeah, you know, we are at the end of a
long geocosmic age, and so that is just a chaotic,
tumultuous time that is a it's it's not you know,
two week period, it's actually like more like a decade
really spanning back to it was really December nineteenth, twenty

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nineteen when there was like this big conjunction, triple conjunction
between Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, and Capricorn, and that kicked off
the COVID everything not long after that, and so now
we're in like a new age where everything is happening
in air signs and fire signs, which is quick moving

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energy that's really creative, full of ideas, but it's it's
like the pieces haven't quite fallen into place yet. It's
true for the new things to start. And I think
that next year when we get to I'm looking at
February twenty twenty or February twentieth of next year, twenty
twenty six as a really interesting day like maybe of

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our whole lives, like potentially.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Because our guest we had on numerology also said that
we're coming to the end of an age and getting
ready to start a new age num.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
In numerological terms.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Yeah, so it seems like all the disciplines are lining up. Yes, yes, ma'am. Yeah, yeah,
everything's lining up.

Speaker 9 (01:30:27):
So if it feels like a year of endings and
a lot of sadness in general, for people trying to
hang in there, you know, because next year, I think
is going to be a much more creative year, full
of beginnings and new new projects and a lot of
exciting opportunities. So it's a good idea to rest while

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you can and like take like try not to get
too distracted by the noise. And I know it's distracting,
but try to, you know, find some peace in your life.
Try to tune out of the news cycle as much
as it can, and just stay centered because this will pass.

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It's just a phase. It's a weird one, but certainly
is everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I'm hoping that, you know, with whatever charts you know,
you you look at tonight, that maybe we'll be able
to see or help some people find peace in their
lives right now, because I think that's the big question
I think on everybody's mind is will there ever be
a sense of normalcy again?

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
Yeah, you know, well it won't be like it was,
but it will be a new normal, but it won't
be Or so that the deal with Pluto moving into Aquarius,
which happened, it's happened a couple of times, like in
and out, but now it's solidly and Aquarius for the
next twenty or so years, is that the power structure

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is moving away from big entities, big companies, corporations, government, etc.
To grassroots up power. So it really will be power
back in the hands of the people. And we're already
seeing that happen in real time, like little communities are

(01:32:24):
doing what they feel in their hearts is the right
thing to do in their own way. And it's kind
of amazing to watch how it happens in different places
in different ways, and it's really cool and inspiring and
totally different than what we're used to hearing and seeing.
And people are seeing through the veil of because it's
time for that to change, you know, and it's just

(01:32:45):
but we're at the beginning of it, so there's a
lot of work done.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
But Okay, i'd like to see the fall of our
neo feudal society that we have existed in to some
degree because even though it's nice to have products from
other locations and a lot of variety, and and and
and some of the benefits that come with that, I

(01:33:09):
also feel that people have become enslaved by corporations that
we don't have really control over our government anymore. It's
not a government for the people. It's a government that's
controlled by the corporate establishment. And that's not what the
fathering finding fathers intended in this country. And and and
certainly that's just nothing more than another type of feudalism,

(01:33:31):
because I mean, instead of kings now you have CEOs.
Instead of kingdoms, you have companies. But you know, everyone's
sort of enslaved through serfdom to have to serve at
this lower level because that's as high as they're allowed
to get, right. I'd like to see that change, I would.

Speaker 9 (01:33:48):
I think it will. I think it will. And we're
it's it's kind of maybe the most exciting time to
be alive in a lot of ways because of things
like AI. We have computers, we have quantum computing now,
and we can do a lot, you know, and there's
a lot there's enough, there's enough money and intelligence in

(01:34:11):
the world for everybody to have a roof over their
head and to not be sick, you know, and to
have the opportunity for some sort of education. And I
think that will become more and more available in sort
of the public baseline of stuff for sure, as time
sort of unfolds and rules for us. But it's it's

(01:34:35):
going to be because we like stand up for it though,
you know, we get what we demand, not what we deserve,
you know, a lot of times as public people, and
we've been rolling over for a long time. Other people
in other countries don't do that. People in other countries

(01:34:56):
have like don't just go home and turn on Netflix. Yeah,
Like they get strategic, they plan, you know, work strikes,
they you know, don't shop. There's things that you can
do that aren't necessarily violent, that wake people up whose
only interest is the bottom line. And that's what we

(01:35:18):
are working against is people who really only look at
spreadsheets and numbers and they're making big financial decisions that
affect a lot of people with just brutal margins in mind,
and they're not calculating the ROI of a human investment.
A lot of times. So, but that being said, let's
look at some astrology charts.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Yeah, let's do it. So how I envision doing this
is we're just to preserve, like the personal data we're
having Brandon send you information from anybody that's requesting that
you look at their chart. For the audience, they're welcome
to call into the show. You can call in at
the number that I put on the screen. That's two

(01:35:59):
of seven, five four four nineteen eighty three. If you
want to have actual conversation, if you prefer to just
have her, you know, have a roor just give you
the what she sees and you can you can comment
in the chat and we can kind of relay that
back to I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable, but
the easier way would probably to call in. But we
can start taking do you want to do you want

(01:36:21):
to pick one or do you want us to like
just take somebody that calls in first? How would you
want to handle it?

Speaker 9 (01:36:27):
Well, I was going to go in order for whoever's
information landed in my inbox or that works for me. Okay,
I got them within the last hour. I haven't really
looked them other than just putting like information in there,
so we can start with Brandon.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Or does that work? Yeah? So there you go, and
for the audience, if you've got one that you want
to throw out there, I don't know how many you
guys have you already have, but Brandon's email is on
screen right now. You can send your birth data. That's
basically your your your date, birthday, your time of birth,
and your city, stay, province, country, that kind of thing.
Just put it in and send it the brand and

(01:37:03):
he'll get it over to to Aurora. Okay, so let's
start with Brandon.

Speaker 9 (01:37:08):
Okay, so I'm just gonna talk about what I see.
I'm not going to share my screen to keep people's
private information private, but I'll be happy to send everybody.
I'll send you all screenshots of the charts in a
response so you can send that back to people later.
So Brandon, let's look at your chart right now. Okay,

(01:37:35):
what's been going on at home or with your mom lately? Like,
because there's some changes a little bit of I mean,
that's where Saturn is. So it's either a sense of responsibility,
either you're moving somewhere or taking on more responsibilities. But

(01:37:56):
then Neptune is also in that house. Of that fourth
house of home, like your physical house, but it also
has to do with your your mother as well potentially.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Oh yeah, I think if.

Speaker 9 (01:38:11):
You left them speechless, I mean, is anything going on
if not like, If it's like like and it doesn't like,
it could be either your physical house maybe moved, or
there's stuff going on at home. Anything you feel like
talking about, you don't have to.

Speaker 8 (01:38:31):
But so nothing negative.

Speaker 10 (01:38:35):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
I want to say.

Speaker 8 (01:38:39):
Earlier this year, my previous job kind of like some
finances and whatnot changed and had to move back home.
But now I'm in a new job, trying to pay
off that and move out, you know, all that fun stuff.
In the year of our lower twenty twenty five, I
think more so things have been a little more positive,

(01:39:00):
especially with my mother. I've been trying to introduce a
lot more of what you taught in the webinar Bishop
about remaining objective observers, kind of not aligning with any beliefs,
and she's taken very well to it. That now she
used to identify, I wouldn't really say as like a
maga conservative Christian, but she's now kind of set back

(01:39:26):
and even shared a post on Buddhism and sent it
to me, and I thought, Okay, so it's been some
really positive changes, nothing really negative.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
No, that's good, that's great.

Speaker 9 (01:39:41):
I wonder what her chart looks like, because that sounds
like she's going through some Ninth House transits that have
to do with spirituality, religion, philosophy, world worldview. But for
you to have moved back home with her and interacted
with her in that way, I would say, so Saturn
is there. Saturn's finishing up his jaunt through Pisce. Pisces.

(01:40:04):
He has been in Pisces since March sixth, twenty twenty three,
or March seventh, right around in there, and then has
been moving through Pisces, which is the most spiritual of signs. Neptune,
of course, also rules Pisces. So for those two heavy
hitters to be kind of playing in the field of
the unconscious, the spiritual side, not so the religious. It's

(01:40:26):
not dogmatic pieces energy, it is creative, spiritual, like divine
inspiration like that. I would liken it to that feeling
of going outside and looking at the stars and just
being like WHOA Like the universe is really big, Like
that kind of sense of awe and inspiration that comes
from an experience like that.

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
So I don't know, I feel if it's connected to that,
but I've actually been doing that a lot more for
going outside looking at night, and like even on investigations
we do like actually Saturday, we're at investigation and I
just kind of like look up at the stars because
it was a clear sky.

Speaker 9 (01:41:05):
So Saturday was an interesting day astrologically because speaking of Saturn,
Saturn was an opposition to Venus on Saturday, which is
it brings a lot of tension between masculine power structures
and feminine power structures, and it brought a lot of
tensions to financial markets. On Friday, leading up to that

(01:41:28):
Venus Saturn opposition, we had a huge sell off in
the financial markets, which was really interesting to see play out.
So these planets have been going through that fourth house
for a long time. But you also have the North
node in Pisces in your fourth house right now. The
North node is all about our sense of destiny and

(01:41:53):
it's not always easy what it's doing. So it might
have been sort of difficult or humbling to move back
home when you went home. But I do get the
sense from your chart that this is a sort of
faded time that you're being given to spend with your
mom for the time being. In hindsight, you're gonna be

(01:42:16):
really grateful for it, even though maybe it wasn't under
the most ideal circumstances when things happened, maybe you wouldn't
have picked the way it happened, but you're grateful for
what happened as a result. And there's that's gonna last
for another eighteen months or so, or well a little

(01:42:37):
less than that, like a between about a year another
year ish. And so when it gets to when the
north note gets to Aquarius, it's going to change your
like you're going to have a big change in terms
of I think you're going to be doing more travel,
maybe speaking, more public presentations, and possibly writing. But short

(01:43:03):
term travel like short trips, I think might be something
that are on the horizon and the not too too
distant future. Is that something that you would be interested in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
At least coming down to see me in next week?

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
So there you go, we know he's a writer.

Speaker 8 (01:43:25):
Yeah, for traveling.

Speaker 9 (01:43:27):
Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in your natal chart
in the third house. Your Mars is in the third
house next to your Jupiter and your Moon. So I
think there's like you're gearing up for a lot of
activity that will be happening in about a year or so.
So take the time now to rest and try not

(01:43:48):
to rush stuff too much. I know it can be
kind of annoying to wait for things to happen, like
if you're ready for that next step to show up.
But I think we're on a timeline sort of collectively
at the moment as well, not just you, but like
we're waiting for some stuff to unfold them and the
right opportunities are gonna It's gonna be a flurry of activity,

(01:44:12):
like all of a sudden, a light switch gets flipped
and you're like, oh, gonna be busy.

Speaker 8 (01:44:19):
I might looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
That sounds good, Brandon.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
I like that, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:44:25):
I think also maybe next year there could be the
opportunity for some sort of higher education too, like some
sort of maybe advanced training. There Jupiter will be moving
into your ninth Pass, which is the house of religion,
but also higher education, so like university or an advanced

(01:44:46):
degree of some kind, or international travel, and Jupiter will
be there for a whole year, So there might be
some sort of year long program that you do that
kind of makes you busy in a lot of ways
and requires a lot of writing. I think that could
be what sets you up for a big, bigger, longer

(01:45:07):
term career move and then your housing situation will sort
itself out in a good way. That's cool, Okay, Yeah,
any do you have any questions specifically for me that
I can answer for you? Any dates you to look
at and that can kind of help unpack from a

(01:45:29):
cosmic perspective, not not that I currently have.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:45:37):
I think you pretty much answered kind of like the
biggest point. There's a negative in it, right not the
negative that you say.

Speaker 9 (01:45:44):
I mean like there's challenges in every chart, and right
now we're in a like collective sort of time of challenge.
But I don't see anything that's particularly like outstandingly difficult.
I would be like, hold your horses, be careful, you know,
I mean, nothing that I'm alarmed at or anything like that.

(01:46:08):
You're in a sort of healing time where like spirituality
and meditation, if you will, are supporting you and on
your on your way. But you're you're on the verge
of a lot of activity. But like, no, it's good stuff.
It's a lot of growth and potential for travel and

(01:46:29):
enriching your mind in a really positive way.

Speaker 8 (01:46:34):
Okay, I think that's enough for me right now. I
think a bunch of people would want to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
I think I think that's a really good one for you. So, yeah,
that's that's awesome. I'm just glad that you know, it
looks like everything's gonna thank you. He needed to hear that,
Yeah he did. I think he did. You think you
tell him exactly what he needed to hear or he
really did?

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:46:56):
Let me see who's next pull up? I think her
name was Valeria.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Valerie val She's one of our mods, and she's in
the chat right now. So val here you go. She's mo,
she's motion in the chat. But val Is is uh
what we call her.

Speaker 9 (01:47:15):
Okay, once, let me pull up her chart. Okay, now
I'm looking at your chart. Thow h screenshot that'll email
you guys later. Let me take a look real quick.
I haven't looked at anything other than your birth data,
so I have to take it in for a seconds transits.

(01:47:42):
So I have a feeling that looking at your chart,
you've been going through some sort of healing process when
it comes to being seen professionally. And how you show
up in the world and let people see you and
what you do. And it might have been somewhat like
painful at first to kind of get over this hump

(01:48:03):
of some sort, or you might still be in it
and sort of wrestling with it, but it's an opportunity
to sort of step into the spotlight and get.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Over any.

Speaker 9 (01:48:18):
Professional themes or like things are like blockages is the
words that's coming to me, Like things that were in
the way, like maybe tripping over yourself and being in
your own way sometimes and then showing like having this
opportunity to kind of heal that and get out of
your own way. And it might be a little bit

(01:48:38):
scary to sort of go out of your comfort zone,
but then to like really let people see you shine.
And I don't know, I guess you're not here, so
I can't talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Value If you want to call into the show, you
know the number. If you want to talk and interact,
go ahead, I'll get you on here, but she can
keep going until you do, or if you don't want to,
you can Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:49:01):
Yeah, I'll just keep seeing what I what jumps out
at me. And so I say all of those things
because Chyron is an asteroid that I look at in
astrology and it's just passed over her mid heaven, which
has to do with career. So it's going from the
ninth house of philosophy higher education and travel into career

(01:49:22):
and public standing the way people see you in the world,
and Chiron is the asteroid that is representative of the
wounded healer. So there's always some part of us that
we have to deal with that is like a little
bit sensitive to something and we're just sort of tasked
to deal with it. Everybody has Chiron in their chart somewhere,

(01:49:44):
but this is transitting Chiron going over her needle mid heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Okay, think wait value with us? Yeah, okay with us.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
Did you hear what I was saying or I.

Speaker 15 (01:50:03):
Am listening for sure? Yes, I can relate.

Speaker 9 (01:50:09):
Okay, So have things like, uh, what's going on career
wise professionally that you feel comfortable sharing anything?

Speaker 16 (01:50:18):
Well along the.

Speaker 15 (01:50:19):
Nothing what I career wise? Or no, I'm retired, I'm
not working Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:50:26):
So it might not necessarily be like directly tied to
like an income necessarily, but like society, the way people
see you in the world, like the way that you're
perceived publicly. That would be the other way. I would
look at the mid heaven. It's like the way people
observe you from Afar hmm, And it's just happening. So

(01:50:54):
it could be that it's it's still unfolding, and it's
true sitting Chiron. So when transiting planets hit sensitive points
in our charts, either they trigger some sort of karmic lesson,
that's the way I think of it, or there's not
a lesson to be learned there. You're you're all good,

(01:51:15):
and there's not these like big events, these big traumatic
events that we have to cope with and deal with.
But I would imagine that let's see, I mean, this
would have been here before. But let's see what else
is going on in your chart?

Speaker 15 (01:51:39):
Do do?

Speaker 9 (01:51:40):
So you're a a Leo rising nine degrees with Mercury
and Pluto and the so you're gonna have a Pluto
return or opposition coming up, but it's not for a
long time, but it will be in the next like

(01:52:02):
ten twelve years, so nothing really immediate that one. Let
me see what else is going on. So Mercury and
Mars are both in your fourth house of the house
and home again, have you been doing renovations or thinking
about it or moving.

Speaker 15 (01:52:22):
Yeah, we have. Yeah, periodically we go through that. But yeah,
renovation is that it always works.

Speaker 11 (01:52:30):
It keeps us here.

Speaker 9 (01:52:33):
It's also like, did you do something with the like
last week, like four or five days ago, like something
kind of big at home? Yeah, or yeah, what'd you do?

Speaker 15 (01:52:46):
Yeah, well, we repainted a room and changing it into
an exercise room. Emily had got a phone that we've
been working with that changes colors and very cool. So
we add things and change things.

Speaker 9 (01:53:04):
That's cool. It's funny that you guys put an exercise
machine in there, because Mercury is like conjunct Mars right now.
Mercury is all about activity and movement, and Mars is
like kind of like let's get into shape, like let's
be active. Yeah, that's great. Let me see what else

(01:53:26):
is going on in your chart? Do okay, let's see.
I think things have been going pretty good for you recently,
Like have you had a really good couple of days
like the last day or two?

Speaker 14 (01:53:48):
Pretty much?

Speaker 15 (01:53:50):
I have a lot of good days though, well, I mean,
like the right now.

Speaker 9 (01:53:55):
The sun transiting sun is exactly sex time to your
natal north node and south node so like you're like
in the flow state right now, So you're in this
sort of golden window of opportunity to kind of follow
your intuition and your hunches, and the universe is just

(01:54:16):
sort of presenting you with opportunities to kind of to
just do the stuff you want to do. Your north
node is in the sign of Aquarius at twenty one
degrees in your seventh house, and the sun is about
to hop over in your your fourth house too, but
it's in your third house. So there's a lot of

(01:54:38):
communication with your partner that's flowing and really in a
good nature kind of way, and also opportunities for doing
stuff that's like sort of out of the ordinary, off
the beaten path a little bit, a little bit, just
stuff that's a little on the unusual side that brings
you closer together as a couple, and that could be

(01:55:01):
the renovation, but it might be just good conversation too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Sure you'll take it right now, I mean, you'll take.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
It right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:55:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
I mean, she's kind of the she's kind of the
face of the church and the you know, for all
of our streams, she's the head moderator and she's always
at every event, so it's not a career per se,
but it's definitely a public image that I think people
do look to her as a job kind of like
a job. I mean, that's a lot of work, I

(01:55:34):
know that, and it's work that doesn't pay, so you know,
it's it's a it's a you know, but it is
it is a visible one because of you know, the
work that we do is just so public and visible,
and she's at every event. So I wonder if it
had something to do with that.

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
Maybe there's also a lot of opportunity that comes out
of the blue at the moment for you, like I say,
career wise, but if career is not necessarily a job, job,
it could be the podcast. But like lots of unexpected
just sort of almost kismet opportunities to do stuff that

(01:56:13):
just kind of are presenting themselves right now. So it's
a good time to get out there and let people,
you know, enjoy you for what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
Pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Well, we couldn't get by without her, so I mean,
she's she's instrumental to her Yeah, so yeah, so yeah,
we mean it.

Speaker 9 (01:56:35):
Thank you so much, pal, Thank you. Okay, So next
the next name on my list is Matteo Matteo.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Okay, so Mittel get ready. Let's take our break here
and uh we'll recalibrate and come back to Mitteo's chart
in just the moment. So don't go away.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Water breaks and boost me closer, A whispering.

Speaker 14 (01:57:03):
The wind, the mappers block before me. Well do I
begin a fear of virtual certain.

Speaker 17 (01:57:13):
The unknown feels I could With every step I'm finding
place out never known.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
That's go.

Speaker 18 (01:57:21):
I know one has ever been a round I seen
need the skin through the skies will break the chain
a chart head lands will blame them had ris like ties,
a landing bark and.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
The scene chang.

Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
The country is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
With me, no man.

Speaker 18 (01:58:05):
Restorations, guy us whist myself in there.

Speaker 17 (01:58:11):
The start, the promise, work the top there.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
To open.

Speaker 18 (01:58:19):
Owady, sorry there were.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
No mass ever open a broll.

Speaker 17 (01:58:30):
Don't seem to beneath the skin through. Endless guys will
break the chain. Sure that LUNs will blame them all
rise like tison that it bo just end the scenes.

Speaker 9 (01:58:46):
Come drift with.

Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Me, con drift with me, gon't drift with me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
With me?

Speaker 13 (01:59:10):
Company talking.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
John to say the bag.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
Contay play, don't pay me easy.

Speaker 14 (02:00:06):
I remember the moment I got off he had.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Face is fair.

Speaker 14 (02:00:15):
To play because they moved from am I even real,
even real.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Everywhere look constantly.

Speaker 15 (02:00:33):
To face.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
Amy me.

Speaker 19 (02:00:51):
See into the floor on the moving way, larks in

(02:01:17):
side of a coat that couldn't c less.

Speaker 14 (02:01:23):
Everything was moving.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
So fast.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
Everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Your cold starting to feel it, and I sto Mickon,

(02:02:16):
I st Mickon.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Like were building siver side. I'm masyating to support the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
Welcome back everyone to the third and final hour of Vestiges.
After Dark. We've been having a fantastic and engaging conversation
with Aurora Yarberry on charts and astrology, and we've been
looking into our audience and seeing what she sees and
what's the cosmic message. And I love how she relates

(02:04:51):
everything to the moment, you know, how it applies what's
going on in the cosmos applies to you as the individual.
It's a nice macrocosmic microcosmic interchange and it really works
out very well. We're going to be looking at more
charts here. So the way we're doing this in this
next hour is what we've been doing all along. Now

(02:05:11):
I like it. It's working. Aurora will choose a chart
that she's got in her list. She's doing them in
order that she sees in her email, and if she
calls your name, call into the show. Okay, two O
seven five four nineteen eighty three. Don't call in unless
she calls your name. That way we don't get confused.
That's two O seven five four four nineteen eighty three.

(02:05:32):
And that way she can have an exchange. I think
it works better when she can talk to you. I
want to stay in the chat, that's fine, but I'm
not sure she can see the chat. So it's better
for you to call. Okay, and we're going to get
through as many as we can in this next hour,
so don't go away.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
It is that.

Speaker 15 (02:06:27):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:34):
Is only.

Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
Okay. We left off with Matteo's chart. Matteo is on
the line right now with Vestiges after Darky There, Matteo,
Hey be a while. Yeah, it's been a while. Good
to hear from you, and uh, I'm looking forward to
see what Rher has to say about your chart. That's
gonna be fun.

Speaker 9 (02:07:19):
Hi, so really interesting to see your chart. You have
what I would call a super stelium in the sign
of Virgo, so your son is in the sign of Leo.
So you probably are familiar with Leo's stuff, but you've
got a ton of virgo energy in your chart. So

(02:07:43):
I'm guessing that the last month or so has been
pretty interesting, and not just the last month, but really
the last like really dramatic ups and downs, maybe some
like stuff that just sort of came out of nowhere
in a really explosive way, might have been sort of
surprising and shocking, and just really quick moving stuff happening

(02:08:06):
that might have been really intense and maybe even potentially heavy.
But a lot of movement and big deal stuff happening,
especially potentially with your relationship or if you have a partner,
it could be a business partner.

Speaker 11 (02:08:22):
Okay, interesting for me, I mean, all right for me.
I mean I'm in my senior year of high school
and I just I mean I was just finished like
all my college apps, and I wanted to go to
u v H University of Houston. I got in the
University of Houston, So that was a big thing. Last

(02:08:45):
last month. I did there's this there's this like a
competition at my school. They called it QUT and it's
like a male beauty pageant. You had to get voted
into it, and I got voted in and then I
want and wow, that was kind of a really random
thing that I did, and I did, I did it.

(02:09:10):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
We did.

Speaker 11 (02:09:14):
Like there's like a little like reward assimily at my
school for AP scores and I got to do a
speech for that, like I was chosen to do the
speech for that, and yeah, so I guess a lot
of like big high school stuff for me. And yeah,
I guess really a lot of.

Speaker 5 (02:09:32):
You is all beautiful and really smart.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
Only the best of the best, father, only the best
of the best really being recognized.

Speaker 9 (02:09:42):
And I appreciated stuff like it's just coming naturally sort
of it's really super easy. That kind of is a
big deal, like the going getting into the school you
want to that's a life changing, long term, big deal thing.

Speaker 11 (02:09:57):
Yeah, I agree, So.

Speaker 9 (02:10:02):
Let me keep looking at what has been going on.
So I think I don't know, I think you could
be like sort of faded to like wherever you're going
your sort of the pieces are falling into place for
you to get to where you need to be going.
And again it's a year of endings. So you're senior

(02:10:25):
year of high school. You're going to be going off
to college.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
Next year.

Speaker 9 (02:10:28):
Next year will be really different, like energetically, location wise,
like whatever unfolds for you. So you're sort of setting
the stage for yourself for the next twelve months to
four years, possibly really for the rest of your life.
Because we've got the south node in the sign of

(02:10:49):
Burger right now, in the sign of Virgo, and it's
at seventeen degrees of Virgo, so's it's hit your Saturn,
which is at nine degrees. It's hit your mor it's
hit your venus, and it's like gonna be transiting over.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Your mars.

Speaker 9 (02:11:06):
Like in a little while. Well, actually no, it's going
to the other way, so it's already hit your but
it's it's hit your mars, it's hit your venus and
your mercury, and it's gonna be hitting your Saturn soon.
So it's stuff that's like it's it's big deal, sort
of faded cosmic stuff that's happening. But it's a lot
of ease in some certain ways. Now next year might

(02:11:29):
be a little bit more difficult, just change in scenery.
The north note will be going to the very front
of your chart in the first house, so you're an
Aquarius rising at fourteen degrees. Aquarius risings tend to be
pretty enterprising, insightful, intelligent people that like can be hard

(02:11:53):
to ignore. Like you just tend to get attention, especially
with a Leos, So that Leo Son being an opposition
to the Aquarius rising is definitely going to be playing
out in a big way for you because Pluto is
in Aquarius now, So Pluto is coming for your ascendent

(02:12:14):
in a good way. It's it's gonna be amazing. But
it's not happening for a long time. Let me see
what else is going on. Yeah, stuff's going on while
it's school. Let's see, mom, So are you do you
have some sort of like part time job.

Speaker 10 (02:12:36):
I do.

Speaker 11 (02:12:37):
I work at a frozen yogurt place.

Speaker 9 (02:12:39):
Okay, I'm gonna just suggest that you might be given
more opportunities to get more hours or take on like
as much responsibility as you want. Jupiter is going through
your sixth house, which is work, not so much career,
but like your job, like a job that just pays
the bills, the your term kind of job. So there

(02:13:03):
could just be opportunities. And it's been going through now
for a little while, but as it continues to make
its way towards uh, Leo and hit hit your son
and Leo and your yourself. No, stuff's going to really

(02:13:24):
get exciting for you next year and the year after that.
So you're you're kind of at like the threshold of
a lot of really exciting stuff unfolded. But you've had
some really good things happen in the like recent near term.
But you've got some really cool, big, exciting like once

(02:13:45):
in a lifetime kind of things or once in a
decade kind of stuff coming up that is like a
year or two in the making.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
His mom just said that he got He just got
a promotion. He said that said the chat.

Speaker 11 (02:13:58):
So there you go, Yeah, and everything.

Speaker 9 (02:14:05):
What's that.

Speaker 11 (02:14:07):
They made me sign an NDA and everything because like
and I have like more financial I guess authority.

Speaker 9 (02:14:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're gonna want to, like, you know,
squeeze you for all of your labor so they can
get away with. But make sure that you're not giving
away like too much of your energy. Like if you're
gonna be going to school, prioritize your education, like just
do what you realistically can deal with doing.

Speaker 20 (02:14:36):
And don't let them a.

Speaker 4 (02:14:38):
Little take advantage of you.

Speaker 9 (02:14:40):
Yeah, exactly, So do you have any questions about astrology.

Speaker 11 (02:14:49):
I guess I just I just kind of want to know.
I mean, I guess you said you already said that
like everything's kind of fulling into place. I guess is
that with everything? Is that just more career orientated?

Speaker 5 (02:15:03):
Is that.

Speaker 11 (02:15:05):
Financially well?

Speaker 9 (02:15:07):
I think financially things are Probably you're in a good place,
like you're. Next year, I think things will really click.
It's funny your second house, which is where I look
to for earned income and money, is at the twenty
ninth degree of Pisces is the degree on the cusp

(02:15:28):
of your second house, And so we have Neptune right there,
and we have Saturn right there. And I like it
when Saturn is close to Neptune in the second house
because it can give your your dreams and your ideas
some structure. But right now, Neptune is in the first
house by itself, and Saturn is in or no, Neptune

(02:15:49):
is in your second house by itself and Saturn is
in the first house by itself, very close together. But
I think next year, when they can junket in areas
at that zero degree mark in the very beginning of
your second house, that's when you're gonna get some solid
direction where like you're probably going to be set up

(02:16:11):
well for the foreseeable near term, long term future. So
take advantage of opportunities that come your way, but make
sure to double check everything, Triple check everything. Have any
contracts that come up seen by attorneys, Like, don't be
taken advantage of. Do your due diligence, because neptune can

(02:16:34):
be illusionary, right, like it's it rules illusion and what
is real and what is not real. So like, don't
fall for a get rich quick scheme or a like
bitcoin mining company that nobody owns or something like that.
Like just like you know, use your head. But I

(02:16:55):
think there could be some sort of massive like thing
that happens where you're like, yeah, this is the thing
I'm going to do. This is the way I'm going
to make money, and let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:07):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
Now.

Speaker 11 (02:17:08):
My mom's making a sorry you can hear it. Last Yeah,
she's making about my relationships.

Speaker 4 (02:17:15):
She wants grandkids.

Speaker 9 (02:17:21):
Tell mom to chill if you don't want to be
a high school like, give them wait till it gets
like that income sorted out and then then worry about it.
Give them a few years. I think so Jupiter is
going to be going into your seventh house. Uh next
year when Jupiter moves into Leo, specifically Leo fourteen degrees.

(02:17:46):
So we're looking at about twelve months from now more
or less. I think that could see your relations ship
status change. There could be a potential partner coming into
the picture at that point in time. So give them
a year, mom at least. Yeah, you're young. You know,

(02:18:15):
we've got all the time in the world, as long
as the aliens don't like.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
You know, we got that that zero degrees of.

Speaker 9 (02:18:25):
Yeah, but that zero degrees of areas will be in
your second house of good for him.

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
Yeah, that'll be good for him.

Speaker 9 (02:18:31):
A very potent, juicy place to be making the money.
And when you need to hire an astrologer full time
to help you read the charts, I'm available.

Speaker 3 (02:18:40):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:18:42):
Put it out there.

Speaker 9 (02:18:48):
Okay, let's look at let's look at the next chart.
Who was next to my list? I think it was April.

Speaker 2 (02:18:54):
Nourra Okay, April April. You could give a call into
the show to seven five four four nineteen eighty three.
We'll take you on.

Speaker 9 (02:19:06):
Let me just have a look see you real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:19:09):
Sure, So fascinating, you know, watching you know, because I
know a lot of these these callers. I know some
of their stories and some of those yeah, yeah, So
it's it's kind of interesting to hear, you know, Visa,
I know you don't know them, you know, and so
it's just fascinating to see what astrology has to say.

Speaker 9 (02:19:29):
It's a fun party trick, you know, until people start
crying in the corner.

Speaker 4 (02:19:34):
It's right, you're pretty accurate.

Speaker 2 (02:19:37):
April's now on with Vestiges after dark. You there, April,
it is, okay, welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (02:19:45):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (02:19:46):
Well hi, I'm just starting to look at your chart
right now, so give me a second. All I've done
is just put your data in. So there's not I
haven't looked at anything.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
I've done any.

Speaker 9 (02:19:59):
Research, like before looking at it right now. So let's
see what's going on. So Mars has been going through
your fifth house for the last month or so. Fifth
house has to do with children, loved ones, pets, creativity,
true love, passion, romance. So there could have been a

(02:20:24):
flurry of activity with any and all of those things,
Like you could have been getting creative with your grandkids
or kids something like that, or you know, maybe things
have been extra spicy in the bedroom. But if they're
not yet, then they will be real soon, I think,
because Mars is about to hit a point called the vertex,

(02:20:47):
and the vertex is this sort of just like interesting
part of a chart that tells us when stuff happens.
And what's sort of like a random door opening in
a wall that looked like a wall until the door
opened and stuff just happens. Now, Mars has passed over

(02:21:09):
the vertex before, but it wouldn't have been like the
last time it would have happened. Would It would be
about two years ago. So if you think back to
two years ago, what might have been going on back
like again, like in those themes that I mentioned, so
it's it's kids or grandkids, loved ones, pets, creativity so

(02:21:35):
or romance. Is was there anything interesting happening two years
ago that was like memorable?

Speaker 16 (02:21:45):
Trying to think, trying to think back to two years ago,
I had some family members that were kind of sick.
As far as like, you know, children, grandkids, I don't
really have that, okay.

Speaker 9 (02:22:03):
Do you have pets or like hobbies is okay?

Speaker 16 (02:22:09):
And as far as hobbies, you know, in my spare time,
I like to do paranormal investigations.

Speaker 9 (02:22:15):
Okay, interesting, So your moon is in the sign of Scorpio,
also in the twelfth house and the vertex like where
it is right now, and Mercury is like they're con
junk right now at twelve degrees Scorpio on your moon
and the fifth house. So I think that right now,

(02:22:37):
like today tomorrow could be a really interesting and fulfilling
time to spend some time with your hobbies and sort
of see what you feel called or inspired to make.
Let me keep looking at your chart though, let's see

(02:22:58):
what else is going on. But anytime Mars hits the
moon like that can be a sensitive time too. So
like three days ago, like could have been a sort
of unexpectedly emotional day like things going on that just
kind of had you in your feelings, like about three

(02:23:21):
days ago. Yeah, okay, we don't have to talk about it,
but yeah, all right, I mean for a Scorpio moon.
By the way, listeners, Scorpio moans aren't particularly into talking
about their feelings as.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
You may.

Speaker 9 (02:23:45):
You know, so I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put
you on the spot there. I was just looking at
stuff and sake seth as it came to me and
then I was like, oh, of course.

Speaker 2 (02:23:53):
She's not a sun sign, so you know it's she
gets a pass, you.

Speaker 15 (02:23:56):
Know, totally.

Speaker 9 (02:23:58):
I mean that's the interesting things like Scorpio moons are
the least likely to like. Actually, that was really great
for you because you were like, yep, but horrast moon
would be like, which would be an opposition to Scorpio,
would be like, oh my god, let me tell you

(02:24:20):
is like, yes, I agree, concur Yeah, kept those feelings
their mind and no one will see them. Okay, let
me keep looking at what is going on. So Jupiter,

(02:24:41):
your natal Jupiter, and it hasn't happened yet. This is
something that's on the horizon that I want you to
just be on your toes about. It's not a bad thing,
but it's likely to be a pretty big thing, I think.
So Jupiter, your natal Jupiter is at three degrees of
Aquarius in your eighth house. Now, the eighth house is death, sex, taxes,

(02:25:03):
it's a lot of stuff that Scorpio kind of rules over.
But Jupiter, in an air sign, is in the eighth house,
is forward thinking, it's technologically driven, it's thinking about the future.
And Pluto is about to hit your your Jupiter. So
either I think what could be about to happen is

(02:25:27):
you are either thinking about doing some estate planning or
you're about to benefit from other people having done some
sort of a state planning, potentially like inheritance, that kind
of thing. Jupiter's benefic it's a good thing. But Pluto
hitting Jupiter, that's so once in a lifetime thing, and

(02:25:50):
it's usually it's going to be a good, good thing,
but it's going to be Wow. This is something I'm
having to really to process and deal with because both
of those are really huge planets, and so it could
be stuff that you sort of see or sense coming
on the horizon and one way or another already does

(02:26:10):
that resonate with you.

Speaker 16 (02:26:13):
Or I'm not sure. I don't have to think about
that one.

Speaker 9 (02:26:17):
It's a little ways off. So right now, Pluto is
that one degree of aquarius. Your Jupiter is up three
degrees in twenty three minutes of aquarius. So you might
not actually be feeling the brunt of this, like seeing
it unfold in person in real life for another twenty

(02:26:37):
four months or so. But that doesn't mean that someone
in your family, extended family, friend group or something, or
even yourself is starting to think about it's death, sex
and taxes.

Speaker 2 (02:26:50):
Really it's which is a funny combination when you think
about it's all stressful out. They're all stressful, right, think
of it.

Speaker 9 (02:27:02):
So if we look at the seven houses, the house
of partnerships and romantic like business or romantic partnerships right
like your marriage, anything with a legal contract that is
saying like we are going to work together either to
live our lives or have a business. If you look
at the seventh house under that like sort of set

(02:27:24):
of rules, the eighth houses the fruits of that labor.
So it's the sex from a relationship, or it's the
taxes you have to pay as a couple, or the
inheritance that you get front like could be from your spouse,
or it's the things that you get from working together.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
So like binding things kind of are applied there. I see.

Speaker 9 (02:27:48):
Yeah, And so it's also oftentimes thought is the house
of other people's resources. And so Pluto being in that house,
he's been in the house for a little while, so
he's he's in the room, but he's not having that
really big conversation yet. So there could have been something

(02:28:09):
and I would say this goes back a while. He's
been in the room since uh twenty sixteen ish or so,
there have been themes where like this is setting you
up for this bigger conversation between these two planets. So
if there's something that's been like an underlying maybe family

(02:28:30):
situation that like maybe the writings on the wall, you
have a relative that's like, you know, maybe winding their
time down here in this this version of things, or
something that could potentially be one of the ways that
shows up. But you'll you won't know for another twenty
four months or so, but you will know what it is.

(02:28:51):
It will be obvious. Okay, And then you did you
just well not yet. You're gonna gets So I think
you're are you working? Do you have a job, like
a career job, not like a regular just pay the
bill's job, something you're passionate.

Speaker 16 (02:29:10):
Do you have a career I'm a self employed camp
for Oh great.

Speaker 9 (02:29:15):
Yeah. So the north node of destiny at seventeen degrees
of Pisces is making its way towards your mid heaven.
So I think that there could be and it's it's
not there yet, but it's again you're like again on
the verge of all this cool stuff that's going to
happen in about six months or so. That north node

(02:29:40):
is going to be on your mid heaven. So there
could be some really just sort of like perfect fit
puzzle pieces that land or develop in the next six
months or so that really put the spotlight on your
career in some way. So that's something really positive to
look forward to and be compared to say yes to

(02:30:02):
opportunities when they present themselves, especially in about six months. Yeah, Pisces,
uh So north note in piece or having in Pisces
rather is really sort of spongy feeling emotional energy, and

(02:30:22):
as a counselor, you could possibly be prone to absorbing
other people's energy and feelings too. So I think like
one thing to help not to say that you're struggling
you're a counselor you're helping other people, but like staying
grounded and setting up good barriers to kind of help,

(02:30:45):
uh not take on other people's baggage might be particularly
helpful over the next six months or so.

Speaker 16 (02:30:51):
Also, Okay, that I would say that probably tracks as well.

Speaker 9 (02:31:00):
Because it's we're The thing about astrology is like I
can see that collectively we are all sort of watching
the the Ship show that we're in at the moment
right like we're being it on some level. So like
being somebody who's in the nurturing arts caring for people,

(02:31:22):
whether it's being an MD or a counselor a therapist, psychiatrist,
or even as an astrologer, A lot of times people
come to you and they're not in their best headspace
and piouses this super intuitive nurturing energy that is really
open and porous, and if you're not careful, you can

(02:31:45):
get sick physically or mentally from the influx of other
people's stuff they're dumping on you. And that would be
the one thing that I would say to take particular
care for yourself and just you know, really be able
to tune into your own sense of what you're comfortable

(02:32:06):
with on a regular basis and draw your boundaries in
a way that supports you so you can help people
and not get wrecked.

Speaker 20 (02:32:16):
Okay, so let's see, just looking at.

Speaker 2 (02:32:29):
The chart, are there any areas April that you wanted
her to check on specifically for you.

Speaker 16 (02:32:44):
I'm still kind of I'm still kind of processing what
she said so far. You know, some stuff kind of
resonates as far as lock. Uh, you know, lots of
different things going on currently, like in my life. It's
causing a lot of stress right now, and I'm wondering

(02:33:04):
as some of this stuff that she's mentioned a kind
of it's showing up.

Speaker 9 (02:33:11):
Yeah, of course, it's hard to have details and we
don't have to go into details, you know at your
personal private life. And you do have a scorpio moon,
so I won't hold your feet to the fire to
talk about stuff that you don't want to. But uh, there, yeah,
there's some I won't say difficult, but like there's some

(02:33:36):
stuff that like the Pluto headed towards your Jupiter, that's
gonna be big, I think. But again that's not for
two years or so. But then in six months you're
gonna have some really good, strong career juju come through.
And then lately also stuff you've got the south node

(02:33:59):
and the how of home or north node and yeah
south note in the house of home, sorry North notes
and pistis in the tenth holes South notes. Stuff is
is like your sense of home and your house or
it could again also be your relationship with your mother
in some sense, be having some kind of transition or

(02:34:24):
transformation that is almost like clockwork, like a sense of
having to let go of control in some way, okay,
which can be challenging, but every challenge that I do.

Speaker 16 (02:34:42):
Have some family members that are that are kind of
they're older and so they're not in the best health.
So when you were talking about, you know, inheritance, I
don't anticipate anything like that, but I do have several
that are kind of you know, getting up there in age,
so you know, I can persue something happened with that
in the next couple of years. Mom being one of those.

Speaker 9 (02:35:08):
Yeah, which is it's hard to talk to people about
that kind of stuff without getting emotional because it forces
us to confront our own mortality. And then everybody is
different in terms of how comfortable they are with facing
facts and preparing for the future, like regardless of like

(02:35:31):
do you have kids, do you not have kids? Like,
and how to do what they want to do with
their belongings. But it could be this the writing is
sort of there's there's stuff that will happen, So it
could be a fortuitous time between now and then to
take the opportunity to find a way to broach the

(02:35:52):
conversation and have those discussions. So that there's some kind
of plan in place and you know who's in charge
and it's not a traumatic blind sighting event that is
dumped on you or whoever when that time comes. You know,

(02:36:13):
it's not. It's just try to, you know, find a
place a way to do it from a place of love.
It would be the thing that I see and you're
you're probably really good at that, you know, but you know,
well it is.

Speaker 16 (02:36:32):
You know, I can I can try to talk, you know, well,
especially with my mom for example, as much as I
want to, but you know, you're talking about me holding
my feelings close to the chist. I would say, she's worse.
So that's gonna be an interesting conversation. So she's going
to kind of deflect because I've try to have those
conversations with her in the past.

Speaker 9 (02:36:55):
Yeah, well know, I think there's there are ways to
approach it diplomatically, like maybe not make it about her
so much as it is like friends of hers, people
in her generation. Make it general, like try to like broaden,

(02:37:15):
like don't laser focus in and maybe see if she
kind of hate this term, but it's what's coming in
mind takes the bait, so to speak, and kind of
have some facts and some resources in your back pocket
when you feel comfortable having that conversation, because it will
benefit you and your family to know what to do

(02:37:39):
when the worst day comes, you'll have you'll you know,
to be sort of fore warned and forearmed with the
documents you need, like who's the power of attorney, who's
the matter you know, like the things that people ask
for when emergencies happen, especially with elderly loved ones. That

(02:38:00):
we don't like to think about this stuff, but if
we really love our family, we take care of them
and the best we can, right, and part of that
is like panning for our own departure. We don't know
what's going to happen, but like that's nobody gets.

Speaker 14 (02:38:20):
Out alive, like, you know, not one of us.

Speaker 15 (02:38:26):
Yeah, I mean, like I.

Speaker 9 (02:38:27):
Haven't met anybody who survives this life, not yet anyway,
but so I mean try to. I know they're not.
I've had my dad passed away, and like it was
only because I had other people in the family support me,
saying like please go get your will written. It could
because he had medical issues, so it was it was

(02:38:51):
a team effort.

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
But it was a.

Speaker 9 (02:38:53):
Godsend when that worst day came. Yeah, yeah, so my
like best of luck to you. That's that's rough, but
there's good stuff coming to Jupiter is benefic and joyful.
But Pluto brings the hammer down and really makes it's
like a before and after. So it will be a

(02:39:14):
sort of life death transition in a big way. And
so just be prepared. And it's not morbid to want
to be prepared. Really, you're just doing yourself a service
and a favor and have like putting your mind at
ease because you can't control the inevitable, but you can

(02:39:38):
control what happens afterwards to an extent, right, right, So
best of book.

Speaker 10 (02:39:47):
Let me.

Speaker 9 (02:39:49):
Thank you, I hope, but I hope I didn't just
like end on a sad note and move on too fast.

Speaker 2 (02:39:56):
There.

Speaker 4 (02:39:56):
That's something we all need to prepare for, no, I mean,
I think about preparing for even for ourselves. So it's
important information.

Speaker 2 (02:40:04):
I mean I think it is, and sometimes you know
that's what you need to hear. Astrology gives us, I think,
the tools to be able to navigate that better. So
I don't think there's a I don't think that was negative.
You know, it's it's insightful.

Speaker 9 (02:40:19):
You know, astrology is a study of cycles, and life
is the grandest cycle for each of us. Yeah, and
it's part of it, you know. And if we can
appreciate that the hard times for making the good times
that much better, it makes it just a little bit

(02:40:39):
a little bit easier, I think so. So the next
person on my list is Able Guzman.

Speaker 2 (02:40:46):
Okay, Able, if you're out there, call into the show.
Okay two seven five four four nineteen eighty three, to
go seven five for four nineteen eighty three. Okay, Abril,
you're there. Yes, I am all right. Good to hear
from you. Welcome to vestiges, and I think aur is

(02:41:08):
ready to go.

Speaker 10 (02:41:10):
Thank you, good to hear too.

Speaker 9 (02:41:12):
Yeah, thank you for sharing your chart. Just pulling it up,
just taking a look. So let's see what's going on. Okay.
So you're a Capricorn rising at four degrees Capricorn and

(02:41:34):
you've got just taking a look real quick. So Jupiter
is in your seventh house. Jupiter in in the side
of cancer at twenty three degrees, has been moving through
your seventh house. Uh, since earlier this summer. So has

(02:41:58):
do you have you like started day? Anybody? Have you
had like a new relationship startup and like since summertime,
I would say, no, no, it hasn't happened yet. That's okay,
You're still like on the are you looking for a

(02:42:19):
relationship or are you already in a relationship?

Speaker 10 (02:42:23):
I am in a relationship.

Speaker 9 (02:42:26):
You are in a relationship. So you've been in a relationship.

Speaker 10 (02:42:31):
Yes, I've been in a relationship with the mother and.

Speaker 9 (02:42:35):
Okay, great. So I would say based on Jupiter moving
through this seventh thousand, you already being in a relationship,
that then the relationship probably is getting better and deeper
and going to the next level and really improving like
in a or expanding in some way. Is that something

(02:42:56):
you've noticed or has there been so like, as Jupiter
moves through the seventh House, it just tends to make
our partnerships bigger. And usually partnerships in the seventh House
are romantic of some sort, but it could also be

(02:43:17):
business too, So is like it is there an instance
where your relationships or partnerships are expanding. They And.

Speaker 10 (02:43:33):
In regards to my relationship with the mother and my children,
I would say it's been getting better. I would say
it accurate to what you're saying, as it's uh it's
increasing to the more positive side, slowly but steady.

Speaker 15 (02:43:50):
Good.

Speaker 10 (02:43:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, little by little, you know, I mean
quite not as fast as I want it to be.
But I'm a bit of an impatient person.

Speaker 9 (02:44:01):
Are you so? I'm guessing you're married to this person?
Are you married or like this is your wife?

Speaker 10 (02:44:10):
I am not very I'm a dirty rot sinnerin right now?

Speaker 9 (02:44:15):
Well, a good time to think about chatting, Okay, all right?
I think like, if not within the next twelve months
or so to making that happen, then shortly thereafter would
be just a good time to kind of, you know,

(02:44:35):
pop the question, make that happen, or talk about a planet, like,
make some sort of action in some way towards that.
I think the timing could be really nice for that.
For you guys, let me keep looking at your chart
and see what's going on. Uh Are you about to

(02:44:58):
or have you been looking for a job or did
you just graduate from some program? Are you looking for
to like level up your employment situation?

Speaker 10 (02:45:08):
I definitely am looking to uh so, yes, answer your question. Yes,
I've recently obtained, like three months ago, obtain my state
certification UH to become the state certified electrician so I
am looking to increase my my finances as much as

(02:45:30):
I could, and I have joined the local electrical union.
So yeah, my finances have been increasing.

Speaker 9 (02:45:38):
And uh.

Speaker 10 (02:45:43):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 16 (02:45:44):
Good.

Speaker 9 (02:45:45):
Yeah. I think soon, like within the next week or so,
and then like again, in about a month or so,
you could be due for like maybe a raise or
something like there could be in a like an hourly
you could maybe increase your rates a little bit. That
kind of thing, nothing like super major, like a like

(02:46:06):
big giant promotion, but something like incremental that gives you
a lift for a longer period of time is probably
coming your way to between the next week to month
and a half or so. So don't don't buy any
big tell you correct that get the paycheck, but like

(02:46:28):
you know, don't count your chick as before they hatch,
I guess is what I'm saying. Financially, But then you know,
it might be time to get strategic about your income.
Ask your lady to be your lady officially, maybe think
about that kind of thing. Good stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:46:49):
Okay, I appreciate that, and that does sound about right.
I'm currently like working a forty hour project right now,
forty hour week project, and after this project I plan on.
There's a lot of projects.

Speaker 11 (02:47:05):
That are like there.

Speaker 10 (02:47:07):
They offer a lot of ots, so I do plan
on taking some and this project does end in like
a month and a half, so that's pretty spot on.

Speaker 1 (02:47:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:47:16):
Yeah, put that stuff like and make some investments, be
smart with that, make some long term plans for that
money to grow over time. And yeah, just but there's
definitely the opportunities on the horizon there. Do you have
any questions about astrology in general?

Speaker 15 (02:47:39):
I do not.

Speaker 10 (02:47:40):
I would say I I don't understand like all the
terms that you use, but I would think I guess.
The question I would have is any books that you
could point me towards. And I'm aware that Bishop Brian
does have a lot of classes that that I could

(02:48:00):
be watching some recorded versions and maybe I should study
on that. I just don't know why I should put
my time in. I'm like so busy right now. But yeah,
I guess just what kind of books or videos I
could watch to understand the terminology more?

Speaker 1 (02:48:18):
Yeah, there's some.

Speaker 9 (02:48:18):
Good stuff out there. Like so whenever anybody asked me
the name of anything, my mind just goes blank. It's
some weird thing I have. I guess this is a
good time for me to advertise myself.

Speaker 2 (02:48:29):
Yes, please, because I don't want you to end this
show without being able to, you know, share your website
and how people can reach out to you, all that
kind of thing. So let you let's get that in there.

Speaker 1 (02:48:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:48:39):
So I do a daily email newsletter. It's a subscription.
It's like, I think it's seven ninety nine a month,
so it's less than Netflix. But you get an email
Monday through Friday. Friday is the weekend edition, so it's
it's longer, but it talks about what is happening that
day and like a couple of paragraphs and breaks it

(02:49:01):
down and gives you the times for stuff and tries
to make it relatable. So if you read it a
little bit every day, you start to pick up stuff
and put things together for yourself, and it gives you
an opportunity to be reflective. And I do write it.
It's it's not AI, And so I thought that's a

(02:49:23):
really good way that's affordable to help build a practice
to understand and you use it for whatever you want
to use it for. But that I don't really have
a ton of subscribers, So I appreciate anybody who comes
my way. But yeah, that's that Bloodminmilk dot com. You
can find that and then you just click on the
Daily Dose if you'd like to subscribe, and that'll take

(02:49:45):
you to where you can do that.

Speaker 20 (02:49:49):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (02:49:49):
There you go, able.

Speaker 10 (02:49:53):
So much. Thanks, thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:49:56):
Thank you for calling in. I appreciate you. All Right,
we can probably get one more in. Huh you have one?

Speaker 16 (02:50:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:50:04):
Maybe let me I think that I've got one. I've
got yeah, let me put one more chart in there
real quick. Okay, give me one second to.

Speaker 10 (02:50:14):
Do to pull it up.

Speaker 2 (02:50:16):
About six minutes, so we should be six six or
seven minutes.

Speaker 9 (02:50:20):
This is going to be Danielle. So if you didn't
get your chart in to get read today, guys can
send me an email and get in touch and maybe
if you want a session with me, book a session.
Let's see. I gotta be quiet so I can do
this real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:50:40):
Okay, Danielle, I don't I mean, I know she's in
the UK. If you can call in by all means
do so, or we can try to relay any questions
you have from the chat. Whatever's easiest, So call in
if you can.

Speaker 8 (02:50:56):
M hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:50:57):
Chat might be best.

Speaker 5 (02:51:00):
Mm hmmm, and I guess too.

Speaker 8 (02:51:14):
If we use the chat for Danielle, there's also like
what a six or seven second?

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Way about seven seconds? Yeah, no big deal. Though we
can get as much out there as possible. It won't
let her call, okay, so she was not able to
call in. But uh, but we can. We can any
question she has, she is in the chat. She's she's
actively listening.

Speaker 9 (02:51:38):
Okay, great, so let me I've got her shirt in
there now, so I hope I know in the UK
they write dates differently, and I just need.

Speaker 5 (02:51:57):
To know that if I'm from the UK. So what
does she write?

Speaker 2 (02:52:01):
We put.

Speaker 9 (02:52:04):
I just read that one second?

Speaker 2 (02:52:07):
Oh sorry, could you give the could you give the the?
Uh Danielle? Oh you got it?

Speaker 9 (02:52:18):
Okay, yeah, I got I just missed. I only saw
one of the numbers and I was like, oh, never mind,
I know which one it is. Okay, let's look at
Danielle March twenty second. There you go, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 20 (02:52:32):
Let's see.

Speaker 5 (02:52:34):
But it's not.

Speaker 9 (02:52:40):
Okay, So Pisces rising, pieces rising, Okay, let's see. Well
north nodes in your first house. Oh you're but you're
an areas at one degree next year is going to
be a big year for you, Danielle with and you've
probably already started to feel some of this stuff because

(02:53:03):
your son is at one degree of aries, Saturn has
been at one degree of aries, Neptune has been at
one degree of ares. So there could have been really
big changes going on in your life that are just
kind of revolution like remaking who you see yourself as
who you are in the world. It could even be physical,

(02:53:25):
like affecting your appearance, whether that is adopting a new
wardrobe or like hairstyle, or maybe you've adopted a new
workout routine, or there have just been some sort of
physical change. Oftentimes, when Saturn is on our sun, we

(02:53:47):
can also feel like our energy is sort of zapped,
and we can feel tired and lethargic, and it can
be hard to get going because it just feels like
the weight of the world is on your shoulders. But
it doesn't last forever, and it usually leaves you a
little bit leaner and with some extra responsibility that you're

(02:54:12):
getting rewarded for too. So it's not necessarily fun. It
doesn't happen that often, but it's definitely you're you're in
for a bit of a big transformation, and you've probably
are already in it to some degree, but you'll really
start to like see wrap up and progress next year.

Speaker 2 (02:54:37):
She says. It makes sense. She's been bed bound for
a while and she's fed up with it. She says,
she has uh stairs, a stairs lift so she can
access the house.

Speaker 9 (02:54:50):
Yeah, Saturn on your son, which is what's happening right now.
It's not fun. Has did this just started start happening?
Did this condition with the mobility issues just sort of
occur in the last six ish months or so, or

(02:55:11):
is it pre existing?

Speaker 2 (02:55:12):
It's been more pre existing from what I know, it's
been for a while.

Speaker 9 (02:55:17):
Okay, well, this could also be an opportunity for some
advancements to come your way. So neptune is here too.
Neptune also rules drugs, and so this could be a
good thing and that there could be medicinal advances, medical
advancements that could help. So be open minded to new

(02:55:40):
stuff that's coming out, because I mean, I don't know
what your condition is. I'm just looking at your astrology
chart and I'm not a doctor. But there's all kinds
of amazing stuff coming out with stem cell research and
peptides that aren't necessarily in mainstream traditional GP medicine and
certainly not gonna. I mean maybe is being offered at
the NHS. I don't know, but they're more open mindedness

(02:56:04):
Americans are. That's good. That's good. I know that, like
stim cell stuff is more widely accepted over there, I think,
which is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (02:56:13):
Yeah, there's less barriers to it, that's for sure. But Rar,
I just want to say, you are a wonderful, beautiful person.
You so sincere, and it's I'm so happy that you
were able to come here and maybe give some insight
to our audience and to you know, to spend the

(02:56:33):
last you know, two hours with us. It's been wonderful.
And I hope you now that you're done with your degree.
I hope you can come back more.

Speaker 9 (02:56:40):
My pleasure anytime. Just send me a shoot me an email,
let me know.

Speaker 2 (02:56:44):
Always been great. We just we just love having you on.

Speaker 1 (02:56:46):
You really are.

Speaker 2 (02:56:47):
It's such a breath of fresh air to listen to
you talk. You have such a down to earth approach
to this stuff. Sometimes when you have people on the
show that talk about these things, they're very ethereal. And
it's not the worst thing in the world. But I mean,
you just give so much just structure to it that
it makes it make sense to even the most left
brain person. I think that's just wonderful. So thank you again,

(02:57:10):
absolutely thanks the opportunity for a pleasure. I appreciate that.
And Father Chris, thank you, Brandon, thank you, and Jamie
thank you. Thanks to all of you for participating in
tonight's show and sending your information in. If we didn't
get to it or you know, just send her an
email and you can set up a session perhaps, But
it won't be the last time she's on the show,
so you know, we'll have future opportunities. I'm sure next

(02:57:34):
week we're going to return to sort of a part
two to that annihilation As an episode, we're gonna start
talking about the other side of the issue, and Father
Chris will be able to give us even more insight
into that. We kind of left off that episode incomplete,
and so we'll have more time to talk about it

(02:57:55):
and digest some of its implications and why the church
doesn't traditionally teach this as its theology. So a lot
to think about, a lot to get into, and of
course more time for your questions as well. But that's
next week Tuesday at eight pm Eastern. Until then, I
will see you out in the ether. God bless everyone.

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