Bungie Unveils Marathon, Xbox Summer Showcase Games # 438

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the
Max is episode four hundred and thirty eight of the show.
And with me, I am your host, Sean Government, with
me as usual as mister Mark Morrison. Howdy and well,
we do have some things to talk about today. I
have beaten South at midnight, so I'll talk about that.

(00:36):
Mark is continuing with Assassin's Creed Shadows. We've got some
discussion on Marathon and it's presumed price and talk about
some of the stuff that they showed in the game
or about the game. And then also Nintendo's switch to
stuff continues to come out about you know, pricing with games,

(01:00):
what's going to be in certain games, and switch to
editions or the switch to editions actually on the cart
that kind of thing. Xbox a summer showcase state has
been revealed. We'll talk about maybe some games that they're
going to show on that thing and a few more things.
All right, so let's go ahead and get the housekeeping

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(02:51):
it about video games here, and let's talk about the games.
Start out with I guess Mark, how goes your Assassis
Crea Shadows Journey?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I finally hit chapter chapter three?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Finally hit chapter three. So how many chapters are.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
In the Probably forty eight or something? No, no, what
that's three or four? I mean probably four, cause I
assuming we hooked four be like, you know, the epilogue
or you know, we're just jumping back into the world.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I am still continuing to kill guys from there.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Fourteenth chapters Assassin Cree Really, yes, that's that's incredibly depressing
to me. Eighty seven main quests.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, oh my god. And we had this game for
two months.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah no, I'm not kidding, Like I killed this guy
and it's like, okay, you killed all the the middle
ring guys. This is the end of chapter two. No cool,
And then it's like, oh god, there's twelve more.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So does that mean that the side quests have been
enticing you to keep going on that?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I mean side questions a kind of content, and it's
kind of repeated. You know, go clear up this camp
or this castle, or go find these amazine pages that
don't actually matter at all, or stuff like that. But
you know, it's really the game design. The game world
is really well designed, because ever like two to three
dard meters or something else to you to go do.
So you just got on like this, like kick or this,

(04:17):
you know, just keep heading northwest, I guess until these
question marks run out and I go do something else. Yeah,
and I'm continuing to kill guys in that game, and
it's like I killed this guy and it's like, oh,
here's a part of this other hidden you know, faction.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Or you know, I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Like the quest system or you know, like the target
system is like I have like, you know, twenty three
of these circles.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
In my on my map or you know, on my
in my menu.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't even know what half of these are because
it's just like, oh, you just kill this guy and
he's part of some secret organization.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
They didn't even know what it is.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'm all right, sure, yeah, I'm actually taking the screenshots
because it doesn't even fill one screen, it has to
fill two different screens. Yeah, So yeah, I have told it.
I still got an embargered game I can't talk about
until next week hopefully. All right, And I got a

(05:15):
I thought, well I didn't. I traded it in for
it I got. I got a boxed Super game Boy.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I've already had a Super game Boy a loose one,
but this is like the Box ten one. So that's cool.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Hey, that's that's always cool to get. Any Are you
getting the Lunar Collection remaster?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm hoping to. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I probably could get it quite when I when it
comes out, but I I like that game where I
close games, so I hope I hope you get it.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, I hope. I'm gonna probably since I don't have
to buy uh it was it clear obscure because that's
on game Pass, I probably will buy Lunar. Yeah, just
you know, support them remad during two RPG classics like
that kind of similar to what I did was Sweaking
in one and two. Even though I did have an

(06:06):
intention of playing those on my vacation, it just didn't happen.
But we'll see. I mean, I do have that week
where before Claire of Scare comes out, so I might
actually delve into some Lunar and talk about it next
week for sure, so that'll be what I'm looking forward
to there. But as far as this, I mean, anything

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else for this.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Week, aheah, not really.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I played more Split Fixtion with the ends and you know,
still good. I think we're kind of nearing the end,
but probably got like one or two more game sessions
to go.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's that's good at least still with that there. Yep,
all right, well I did finish out South of Midnight,
so yeah, it's uh. It has a fantastic story. It's
just kind of sad again that it gets bogged down
by the combat, which is extremely repetitive and one note

(07:06):
they fill these arenas with monsters. It can cause you
to die. It's not like it doesn't get like it's
not challenging, I would say, just like there's a lot
going on, so you kind of have to keep track
of all these pints that are in the arena that
you're in. And then some of these arenas are really small,
but they all kind of look similar until you get

(07:27):
to the last three chapters of the game are fantastic
because you're sent to this different world that is away
from the rest of the game, because it's like in
this stream world sort of in New York City. No No,

(07:47):
but it's like you're supposed to be like in The
Worm of the Dead or whatever, and it's like this
kind of like chatteristic London almost with like a lot
of like you're going in and like a clock tower
and going up the clock tower, and there's a lot
of platforming in this section, and you just have to

(08:08):
keep going up and up, and then there's sections where
like there's just nothing there and you're having a wall
run and do all this and like, man, that was
really cool and I love that part to get to there,
And then of course the story ramps up as well,
do a great job of kind of like wrapping it
up or getting you to the like where they ramp up,
and then unfortunately the story just abruptly ends. It's like

(08:31):
there's no true like Okay, yeah, we kind of know
they're fine, right, Like the tribulations that they went through
are over quote unquote right, but like there's no connective
tissue with the characters that you meet in the game,
and there's like, you know, I'm expecting, like for the

(08:54):
lack of a better thing that I can think of,
right now. Like you know, those moments in Fast and
the Furious at the end of the movie is where
like they all kind of sit down at the table
or they all have something together, you know, like you
don't get here the diesel. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
A giant frog actually, so.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Maybe that is true then that you know, it's also
kind of weird that the uh, that character that they
showed in the initial trailer only has a really small
part in this Yeah, so that was was kind of interesting.
What his job is it is also interesting, but it's
just like, wow, they they showed him off to only

(09:35):
have him be in like five minutes of the game, Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Uh as a consequence of they cut content or it
just really.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Feels like, I want to know, I hope that if
you're gonna do a thirty minute documentary on this game,
please tell me that you're gonna eventually do some kind
of thing where you explain somebody is allowed to explain
what happened here, because the way the game ends just
feels like so but he said, Okay, whatever y'all are doing,
y'all got to get to a stocking point. Wrap it up.

(10:06):
This game has to come out April eighth, there is
no more letting this game simmer and come out in
July or whatever it was. This game is coming out
April eighth, whatever y'all get to. That's it, you know.
And it does feel like there are things in the
combat that could have been more fleshed out. There are

(10:28):
things that the skill tree feels like you're not gonna get.
I don't think there's a way for you to, I
mean unless you just explore. There's maybe I know there's
a lot of the little readable things I didn't get.
There's at least fifty of those that I didn't find.
I don't know how many more flufs are around that
I didn't find, because I scored quite a bit. It

(10:50):
also makes it really easy because it has that thing
where you follow the path and if you go the
opposite way, you're most likely going to find the little
fluf to get the your currency for the skull tree.
I didn't match it out completely, but I got to
the end of it, and then basically all that was
left was some upgrades for the individual powers that you
know you don't really need, because again, the game is not.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, speaking of that, Shadows gives you so many skill
points that it becomes almost like a farce.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh, you definitely go through the skill tree fast.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean I haven't gone through at all because of it.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You know, it's like oh, individual weapons or weapon types
of skill tree. So it's like I don't care about
like the big gun that yaske can have, but like
when you when you're going through the castle, you gotta
kill you samurais. When you kill one of those, you
get a skill point, and then you get skill points
for doing some quests as well and other stuff. So
like I play as not way most of the time,

(11:44):
but when I switched to him, it's like, oh, now
I have ninety four skill points to distribute, great two
vedicantors automate this or you know what. Going back to
what you said, do you think that like that's kind
of been a problem of Microsoft games. I wouldn't say lately,
but as a general rule, like them not finishing well

(12:06):
or just kind of finishing abruptly or like seemingly like
not ending correctly, like uh, recor remember that thing.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, or I mean that that's a while ago.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
But yeah, yeah, but still, I mean it's emblematic or
well then as a mounts it kind of like ended funky.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean the thing is they do I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't think it's like a money problem, but I
think it's really it really is a good time, Like
they don't like certain studios have don'e on that man
as your time correctly or.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Like I think it's it's it feels like it's uh,
I don't know, because remember that until Redfall, they had
that like really hands off approach, right, So this is
they're part of that twenty eighteen class that also includes
Obsidian and whatever, and so like this is one of

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those games that they were just letting cook until I
guess now they decided that they needed to like get
involved more and kind of be like, okay, where you're
all at, where's this game coming out? Kind of thing?
We need to start like having a rollout for this year.
And they probably felt like, Okay, this game is is gone,
you know, going on long enough that like that that's

(13:23):
enough that you don't need anymore, Like it doesn't need
to go much further. It just sucks that. It feels like,
why didn't you guys let them have an ending?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah you later?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe they they were hoping it
would do well enough on game Pass or in purchases
that they could sell you a DLC later. I don't know.
I don't think that that's gonna happen with this game,
because sadly when I beat it. Now, to be fair,

(14:00):
the game has only officially been out for less than
a week. I got the early access version because it
was nine bucks and I needed to also talk about
it on the the other podcast that I guessed it
on last week, so we'll talk about in a second.
But it just it just feels like there's part of
it that was just I just want to know what

(14:22):
the story is with what is this your intended ending,
because it feels like it's not and that kind of sucks.
And then also it's just like, was that combat always
supposed to be Like like the comment's fine, right, but
it's like, okay, it's getting compared a lot to Keena
Bridge of Spirits.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, Keener Bridge of.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Spirits had really good combat, and that game gets hard
at certain points, right, Like there's an answer to each
one of those enemies in that game. There's not any
of that here. You're doing the exact same thing in
combat every single time in this game, and it's fine.
You can even turn it off if you want and
you want to this experience the story, and maybe that's

(15:03):
what Compulsion is going for, is they were like, well,
if this gets annoying people, they can just turn it off.
But I don't know, that's a big piece of the
gameplay that you're telling people, Yeah, you can just turn
that off.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I mean at that point, did you just sell the
game or saw like a physical version with like a
YouTube look and so I can like you watch it,
you know, or you know, just sell the Blu Ray.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
That is the kind of like interesting that they did that.
It was just kind of like, okay, you know, weird
decision there. But I think the platforming is fine enough.
I know there's people that like apparently also hate the
platforming as well, but I think that that gets more
of a bad rap because it's fine for what it is.
It's just it's meant to be all that seems to

(15:50):
be meant to be a vehicle to get you to
experience the story, which is really well written and really
well done. And I got to get them credit for that, Like,
you know, Polson delivered on the story this time. I
think that they didn't deliver with contrast, or we have
a few I feel like and but again, it's also
emblematic of their other games that I talked about last

(16:10):
week of they want to tell you something about the game,
and then they don't. The gameplay is not fleshed out
that much at all. This is definitely the best game,
hopefully from here. Whether it's a South of Midnight too,
I don't know. I don't think it's going to be
that unless Microsoft just green lights it anyway, but this
this is definitely not gonna The only thing I could
see them getting a two is if this game was

(16:33):
definitely made to get awards. Very much like hel Blade two,
this thing is probably gonna get musical, you know, a
soundtrack nomination, our Style nomination, maybe a narrative nomination, or
a Games for Impact nomination. If it wins things, maybe
that pushes Microsoft. Considering we're talking about game pass here,

(16:57):
this is a you know, a game pass game. It's
it's very well, you know, as far as a game
pass get a game pass game, this is perfect for that.
I would not tell you to go buy this even
though it's forty dollars. This is perfect for get a
subscribe for a month on game pass. Maybe wait till
you know. If you're interested in Claar Obscure as well,

(17:19):
which comes out the twenty fourth, get both, you know,
subscribing the twenty fourth, you can play both games for
a month and you'll be good. You know, Hey, what's up? Cute?
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I was also on one I Fair podcast that I
listen to every week. They have been around longer than us.
They've been around to two thousand and five. One of
the og video game podcasts, video Game Outsiders. They just
joined the yoggs casts network the Pickaxe side of it,
but they've been around for a long time. John and

(17:50):
Michelle had me on. I really appreciate being on there.
They have their own style. They definitely are the folks
that they they like to uh, they get a little excited,
I want to say, you know, they sometimes getting yelling,
but it makes it fun, you know, right. And so
they recently had their their third co hosts that they've

(18:11):
had for a long time. He decided to step away
and his family and things like that, so they've kind
of been trying out different people and again, lucky enough
that I got to be on one of these weeks.
But everybody they've had on so far since the beginning
of the year has been they've been pretty good. So
it's gonna be interesting what they decide to end up
doing in the summer as far as if they do

(18:32):
a third host or they just kind of keep a
revolving door around or whatever. But yeah, go check them out.
Video Game Outside is the fantastic folks, and yeah, you
can go join their discord has a great community that
I always like talking to people in, So I'll put
links in there for the description for people to go

(18:53):
check those out when I get done recording here. But yeah,
that's it for me playing this week. Now I'm done
without the Midnight and I'm waiting around. Like I said,
probably play Lunar. Get back that it's unblady Chronicles talk
about that next week. So yeah, but all right, I
guess since we're talking about games, I know you didn't

(19:13):
really watch any of this. I don't know if you
did since I talked to you, since it wasn't a
you know, it's not like these videos that they had
were super long. Wo No, but Bunchie did reveal marathon
that they said they would do on Saturday. Honestly, the
way they revealed this thing, and the way they've cut
up videos for it, it's like, I don't understand why

(19:35):
they didn't just make this a thirty minute showcase with
somebody talking through it or something, because it's like they
did a trailer, they did an eight minute story thing
that where they try to be like really kind of
cryptic about what they're doing. They try to it does
seem really cool, like Bunchie has its way of telling
stories that make the premise seem very cool, like very interesting.

(19:59):
And then and the problem is that the way they
end up telling the story is not always great when
you get to the actual game. I think that that's
gonna be another thing here as well. It's like this
this city that's like magically vanished and you're supposed to
be trying to find out what's going on with them,
but the like the situation is that the government doesn't

(20:19):
want them to find out, so you're kind of trying
to find out at the same time. And then you know,
it's it was interesting the way they dropped it, at
least for that. The game is a PvP extraction shooter.
If you didn't know that already. Straight up, they're trying
to make this. Yeah, they're definitely trying to make this,

(20:42):
you know, their version of Escape from Tarkov, like try
to see if they can have that like kind of
futuristic looking art style, which I do think that that
also is a little bit lack gravitated me a bit
towards at least wanting to watch some of it. I
like that the ar style that it uses. The problem
is that it's a PvP distractor shooter. It does have

(21:03):
PV in it. They have AI bots that are also
they're bothering you along with the the different like groups
of actual control players that are playing it. It's meant
to be played three v three, but you can play
by yourself, so if you want to play solo, you can.

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There aren't any like creatible characters, so they're all like
sort of like character classes that you can choose. There
is some customizable elements with it. The story is going
to be kind of like Lord drops, so don't expect
outside I think of the initial whatever cut scene or
blah blah blah they have. Don't expect anything like crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
But that you don't respect anything.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean my issue with it is that from
all the other like you know, skill up went and
played it. GameSpot had tw more who say go play
it ig and had somebody kind of funny had Paris
and a few other people playing it that we're invited
by Bungie to go. And then apparently Paris and some
other people like doctor Luco have been like in the

(22:12):
creator program for this for like two or three years
now or even further on, because obviously this was originally
a nineties Mac trio of games that they then decided
to like redo to turn into an extraction shooter. So
like they've been kind of taking tips with that, and
everybody's been saying this feels like destiny won Like there's

(22:37):
not a hook to this. They're kind of just hoping
that we make good shooter and people will come and
play because we're Bungie. And the problem is, and I
guess this is where we can actually have a discussion
on this, is that they're not backing down from the
rumor that it has existed for at least a year
now that this is going to be a forty dollars game.

(23:00):
This is not going to be free to play, and
there was some pointing that this was gonna be a
full price game, and then they came out and be like, no,
this is gonna be a premium game, so it's not
gonna be seventy, but forty ain't that cheap either, when
you're talking about a game that who knows how much
shelf life it's gonna happen, right none.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I I'm gonna be the festinist, but I think this
thing is gonna crash out. Maybe not as quickly as Concord,
but two months.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I will give it more. I'll give it at least.
They're gonna last at least a year before they figure
out we've really got to put this under the hood.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And yeah, you'll give it a year before it goes
free to play because the player counts likes eight hundred
people or something.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, just because it's Bungee. They have fans that are
innately gonna buy this thing. That will they want to
play the next thing Bungee is gonna make. That's not destiny.
They can start from the beginning, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
And but it's not like it's not what Cann's of
Bungee you want like they I mean, if you asked
of Bungee, like, hey, what do you want, I can
say an extraction shooter with light story content.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh definitely not.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
There's a lot of people complaining that they just wish
they would make a single player a game. Again, that's
not gonna happen. And tell you that right the way
that that company's built, they're built to be a live
service and that's why Sony bought them. So unfortunately, whether
you want to or not, they have this has to hit.
This has to be a big deal. If not, I

(24:38):
don't know. Man, uh, Bungee will still be around, but
they will definitely have a lot less weight as far
as being a Sony studio, Like they will become a
Sony studio for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well yeah, but that's not I mean, it's the same
thing I've always said, like fans tell you what you want.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
And yeah, it doesn't matter that Sony bought them to
be you know, Destiny to content maker forever like even
Destiny two fans there, it's not like a growing segment.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, to be fair, they also brought them to be
the the people that we're gonna tell the other studios
how to make their life amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah right, yeah, look how well that worked out?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean obviously it didn't. It didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I think I think the problem is is like they
they want somebody wants to you know, I have this
mentality that like, oh, we we have these people making
live service game be able to have all the right
ingredients so they can they can knock out twelve games
no problem. And they say, yo, the audience is fickle,
Like I don't think anyone it's expected hell divers to
to do that. Well, but like you know, audiences change

(25:43):
and audiences want what they want. It's not like you
can't like force feed us or force feed people like, hey,
you got a new live service game. It's based on
an old ip that barely anyone knows or cares about anymore,
especially the people who played it back then.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And it's it's like, oh, it's only in you know
name only it doesn't any of the old bullshit that
Marathon used to have. So go eat it up, Go
spend forty bucks on an untested franchise.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
That they're hoping it's a franchise, right.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well, an untested ip that like you know good, I mean, yeah,
it's just insanity. Like they they want live service money,
but it's like, well none of those hit correctly, are
very few of them, And the amount of money you're
wasting on this crap you could have making single player
games that would have you would have actually got a
good returning investment.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean that's what I wonder if Sony being
a single player mostly. I mean, they've for the most
part everything that they've done multiplayer wise, outside of Hell
Divers too, they've already canceled everything we've seen or heard from.
They already delayed fair Games yea, which is the other

(27:00):
one that's kind of like, I don't know what's gonna
happen with that. Does that studio wind up getting act
if that doesn't do right? And it's like, if this fails,
does that mean that Sony is is done because this
is your studio that you bought to be the showcase
for this kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I mean, hopefully.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I don't have any ill will against the Gham necessarily,
but if this thing comes out bombed, hopefully that is
the last nail in the coffin for this type of
live service crap. And it's not like I would like.
I mean, I'm not a fan of it. But if
Sony wants to make a new so Calm or a
new Kills one or something, sure go for it, but
don't make it some live service nightmare that you know

(27:44):
it has seasons and has all this like you battle
pass and yeah, stuff like that. Like it's a no,
this makes makes something good period.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Do you think it'd be a better have better reception
if it did have Let's let's say they decided to
do you know, Halo, but it's Marathon, right, They has
a single player component. You can play the multiplayer if
you want, right.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, yeah, I'd be more interested for damn sure
if this if they were like, hey, I mean they
would never say this, but if they were like, hey,
the original the original guys making Halo are making this thing.
It's going to have an online shooter component like a multiplayer,
you know, but it's not going to have you know,
that six to eight hour story. Uh, that's good, and

(28:32):
then introduce you to Marathon and you know all this
other stuff. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean that would do it for me as well,
right Right. The thing is that you're wanting people to
invest forty dollars in this game, right, and you're trying
to also get people to get to pull them away
from the game that they're already playing, which a lot
of Times is free.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, it's like how they how can they compete against
the game I saw this compared to most was Apex Legends,
and it's like, how can they compete against that that
that's free and that has a somewhat built in fan baise,
you know, like a relationship with you know, titan Fall
and good Luck because it's you know, it's already been

(29:17):
five or ten years or I think it's like seven
years or something that that game's been around.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
So yeah, yeah, I mean not.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
To mention the fortnites and the other things that are
around that take up people's time, you know, right it
do you mentioned the aforementioned Escape from Tarcraft that people
are already playing, like Hunt Showdown is there as well.
Like it's just there's a lot of extraction shooters that
are out there already that people are putting their time into.

(29:45):
And then what it You know, the people you're trying
to get are new people also, and if they don't
even have the console that this thing is on, it's
like it's not even like, Okay, I wanted to buy
the console, whether it's a PS five or Xbox or
whatever for other games games, and then it's like, oh,
then I gotta spend forty bucks on this thing just
to play it. It's like, eh, I don't know, it's

(30:07):
it's a steep It's not as steep as you know,
Asking seventy, but it's still a steep ask when that
was one of the problems with Concord. I'm sure they
will allow this to go free to play, because again,
it's bungeee and they're not going to just kill it
on the vine like that. But man, it just it
if it is not a roaring success. Uh. And look

(30:29):
what happened with Hell Divers two, where it grabbed the
zeitgeist and became the game for like four or five
months before Sony kind of killed the ill will with
it with the stupid PSN deal. And then also I
think like content was starting to slow down and and
things like that. That's really hard to do. So expecting

(30:50):
expecting this game to do that already is is a
bit much. But that also had an established thing with
it also, and then it just has a different type
of game that's not out there as much as the
extraction shooter.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And yeah, it's more cooperative and it's you know, it's
not quite as in your face about buying the battle
path or you know, it's also.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Just screams like fun, what do you get most out
of its people just doing random ship and getting killed
by bugs, I mean like you know, and then they
had the most insane, ridiculous premise of democracy, democracy and
all that other like making jokes and stuff like that,
so like it just felt fun, whereas this feels like, Okay,

(31:36):
we're trying to be cool and our style is kind
of neat or whatever, but it's just like, I don't know, man,
it doesn't have that thing that makes you go, man, okay,
I need to play this over something else.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
And yeah, I mean it feels like hell Divers almost
seemed more like an accident. This seems more deliberately Forrest,
like we're trying to be cool and edgy, but it's like, yo,
you're just coming off as being like a poser, you know,
like sing somewhat.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I think it will do it well initially because it'll
get hyped. It's bungeee. They do have time to alpha
test this thing, which is something that they didn't do
with Concord.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
You had people, You have people that are kind of
most of the people that I've seen talk about this,
which I've watched like four or five different people that
went and played it. They all have the same thought of,
I don't know what I'm supposed to be excited about
with this, But if you like Destiny One and you
like the way that that was when it first started,
this feels a lot like that where they could eventually

(32:34):
get to the point where this is gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
The problem, yeah, there's two problems what you just said,
I don't know. The first is I don't know why
people would be or what was the first part.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
The Destiny one where it's.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Like, yeah, that was the second one, but I don't
know why.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
It doesn't have the hook right the hook?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, Yeah, that's one problem. But the second problem is, yeah,
this game shouldn't be like Destiny one because that game
was a a disaster when it came content. Wasn't there,
the story basically wasn't there, you know, just offloaded it
to scra the.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Grim War cards that Yeah, you had to go outside
of the game to figure.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Out that's what I mean. Yeah, like loosn website. You know,
Peter Dinklice, given his career performance of the of the Decade.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And act thing.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Just replaced him.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Know, gameplay very you know, the shooting was okay or good,
but like it had like one mission type. It's just
like go to this base or go to you know,
run to this level, hit hit ghosts, and then you know,
defend him for five minutes.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And they did say the missions are going to be
based off a menu as well, so it's not like
even you're not finding it on the map or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I mean, it's extremely hard to get into now, I think,
but like, why would you play this, Like if I
was going to play something like this, I'd just play
like Warf RAMEO. Okay, at least that's been running out
running for six or in took decades or whatever and
has all the content.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Like yeah, that's another thing that makes so hard. There
are so many games that already have so many years
of content you can go through if you're looking into
get into something like that, whereas this is starting out
and okay, you get the full the cool thing of like, okay,
I'm on the ground floor. But if the county people
are going to stick around after the first couple of
weeks a month or whatever and stop, right, so yeah,

(34:25):
well obviously we'll have to see. It's all the way
till September twenty third, when it comes out my brother's birthday,
shout out to him, but he actually he's streams escaped
from Tarkov, so I actually need to ask him what
he if he's been looking at this at all on
money things.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
He's one of those people.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, so, yeah, exactly, but he's he's kind of that
target on his all. Right, you're trying to get people
from that game to move over to this game, and
it's like, I wonder that's so established ingrained in people.
They don't know what they're going to go over the
way you want them to. Also, it's my daughter's birthday,
having birthday to night. She's fourteen today, so crazy, we're

(35:06):
getting up to the high school age already next yek goodness.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
But yeah, not for real.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean I'm already freaking out just thinking about, like, man,
how many years we've been doing this show, and then
you know, just that whole time frame of her growing
up with that, and it's just like man, how time flies? Right?
But yeah, so that's kind of the the gist of it.
You know, if you have thoughts on Marathon, what you

(35:35):
think it's going to do if you care about this
at all. Normally we don't talk about these kind of
games that much. But since you know, people were talking
about prices all the time now with Nintendo switch and
I switched to and all that stuff, might as well
have brought it up here with Sony and Marathon, I
am speaking of Sony. They did raise the price of

(35:57):
the digital PS five and regions due to inflation, because
you know, we're overdy on the Sony kick here. It's
going up an increase of fifty euros in Europe, so
now the digital edition costs almost just as much as
the regular edition. In the UK, it's going up forty

(36:18):
pounds to four twenty nine ninety nine from three eighty nine.
And you remember they did a price change in twenty
twenty two, so this is the second time that you've
done a price increase, not a price drive, a price
increase in the five years that this almost five years
and system has been around. I don't know if I'm sure,

(36:40):
maybe or maybe not. Xbox will follow suit at some point,
although Australia went up as well. Uh So, any thoughts
on this at all?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I mean it shows that like the market is still
very in flux because you know, by this time the
things should be going down price, not up.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
But I mean the Swiss never went that never went up,
but it also didn't go down either, so whereas p
s and Xbox have both gone up.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Uh so, yeah, I mean it's a consequence that increase
material and the you know, the system being too very
complex and even like when they make a revision, it's
not like, oh no it's tune or all is cheaper,
like it's like, no, it's the same price, not just
it's in a smaller box.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, and also probably has to do with the the
volatile nature of this crazy trade war that's going on
and the stuff with China and the US doesn't seem
to be going away, right, and most of these systems
are being made in China because of the materials. Yeah,
so you know, we'll see, uh how that goes. Because

(37:52):
Nintendo is still waiting. They supposedly now they they have
revealed when on my Nintendo you can possibly get a
chance at a pre order right for the switch to
and that's May eighth in the US and Canada, But
we don't know when the retailers are going to get

(38:15):
a shot at doing the pre orders quite yet. We'll
see if we we do at this Mario Kart World
Direct that is happening on Thursday. So I'd be very
surprised that we get done with that Mario Kart World
Direct and we don't have any announcement of get the

(38:35):
Mario Kart World Bundle. Pre orders are this day. You know, like, man,
if we're still going another week where we're waiting to
see what's gonna happen, I mean, yeah, Nintendo can wait,
no doubt he will pre order this thing. I mean
if it's June fourth, right, But still it's like you
got to get some people time.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
To yeah, get money together, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, figure out if they're gonna they're gonna have that
home loan. I mean, it looks like so far, because
they've shipped so many units the United States and other
countries already that it's probably going to stay at four
fifty because uh, you know, the president that's there in

(39:21):
the United States did drop our pause all the terrorists
except for the ones to China for ninety days, and
everybody else except China is getting a ten percent terriff.
So according to nie K and some other outlets that
apparently this may cause Nintendo to just go ahead and
go out there with the four to fifty price, and

(39:42):
then I guess they will once they run out of
the stock.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That I said last week.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, but then also there's still that thought of what
if they just don't release it in the United States?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
You know, I know, it never happened.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I don't. I don't think they would either, just because
the US is such a huge market. No way, right,
Like as far as like game purchases and all that stuff,
it's I cannot believe. You know, we're going to be
having that. It's going on Crafty you good to see
you as well. Also, Crafty has his own podcast, video
Game Happy Hour, which we're going to talk about having

(40:19):
Crafty on the show here to be on with us,
and maybe myself or both of us could be on
Happy Hour. We'll talk about that on another outside of
the show. But you know, the thing is, it's just
interesting to me, like Nintendo definitely doesn't want to be
dealing with this. We already see what Sony's having to

(40:40):
do with increasing prices, Like can you imagine they put
out this four P fifty for the switch to and
then in like three months they're going, oh, sorry, we
got to raise the price some more, like could you
see them doing that?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
That's exactly what they're gonna do. I have no doubt
about it.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Man, you know how bad pr that's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
No, it's gonna do.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
They're gonna sell it the four to fifty a lotment,
and then once they sell that, go like, now it's
six hundred dollars. You can can't trump for that, and
then that's the end.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
No, I don't know. I just feel like they're gonna
meet in the middle and at some point they're just
gonna be like, Okay, the price is five hundred dollars.
It's not moving and like and then you get to
the holidays, because yeah, one other thing that we haven't
talked about yet is that such a weird thing right
there is this intentional Is it just because the administration

(41:33):
doesn't know what video game consoles are? Is it like
they don't think the consoles are important? Like they have
hold on giving one. They've exempted smartphones, flat screen TVs,
and uh computers, but not video game stuff. It's like, really,
that's electronics. Like at first there was electronics, then they

(41:56):
narrowed it down to those three things and it's like,
why not video games?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
It's been pretty much uh said that, like Trump pats
video games. So I can completely buy him being petty
enough for the bullshit be happening. I mean he sees
it as you know, you probably use it like you know,
this is why we don't live and leave to beaver
Land or whatever. It's his you know, GTA six exists
or you know, video games or correct, right.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I mean he he There was lack of reports of
him wanting to do something against video games or violent
video games or whatever it was at one point. But
I mean, just like everything else with him, he has
a fielding one moment, and then another moment he has
another feeling and then you know, again we're talking about
something that next week all the tariffs could be gone
or something like. It's just something that's been changing literally daily. Man,

(42:41):
we have no idea what's going on with this, but
it's just insane that you are, you're doing this, and
then it's like you go the extra malll of exempting
things and then man, the switch to getting delayed was
on the news that I watched every night. I mean,
like this is this is national news. Is now that
the switch to pre orders have been delayed the United States. Like,

(43:04):
you know, you think that somewhere somebody would be talking about,
you know, maybe maybe we should exempt this as well
for ninety days or whatever. Let the switch to come
out at their price that they wanted to come out at,
and then whenever they decide to do and after that,
whatever it is. It's just it's volatile all the time.

(43:26):
Will be interesting to see if Nintendo dares during that
Mario Kart World direct to put out a price or
put out some kind of okay, pre orders are going up,
for sure, we'll see what happens, you know. Yeah, but
that's that's why, Like you know, people were talking about
why didn't you put the press in the direct? This
is exactly why, because can you imagine them going back

(43:48):
to that direct and it says, oh, switch is four
hundred fifty dollars and then people go, what why am
I paying five fifty at checkout for them?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Again, that's the terrify bonus. They should they should reput
out the direct and they have the priceis.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Be tv A Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And you know the other funny thing is, you know
the common joke, one of the more common sexes jokes
was in the past, was like, you know, a woman
can't be president because you'll be so unpredictable about her
time in the month. And it's like what as compared
to Trump, Like yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Mean guys walking walking up predictability.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
So so I'd rather a woman be you know, unpredictable
or a little chaotic one time of the month and
not yeah a day.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, but you know, look this guy whatever, whatever that
happens with that. Ultimately, uh, so far Nintendo is still
having this system come out on June fifth. We'll see,
maybe they end up delaying it for the United States
and it just comes out on in other regions as
almost like a hey, stop messing around and.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I'm going to Canada real quick, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like I wonder if Nzinenda would dare do that, right, like,
just okay, we're gonna release this in other regions and
because you guys can't get your crap together, we're just
not you know, we're just not gonna deal with this
right now.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
You know, it'd be funny, it would.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Be it would be interesting if they decided to go
that route. I don't think they will, but right, but
speaking of prices, a lot has also been made about
these switch To edition key cards and whether they had
the entire game on the on the the actual cartridge
or not, which means could you resell them. Nintendo did

(45:44):
come out and officially announced that the switch To editions
have the actual game on the key card and the upgrade,
so you can resell them, and also you can resell
these key cards for the third party games that use
them because it's not tied to your Nintendo account, it
is tied to the actual game. So even though it's

(46:06):
a it'essentially just a license to download the game, that
license will always be on that cartridge, so you can
resell the game, which is good for people that you
know still buying physical. Nintendo has not officially There's a
lot of misinformation out there about the whole what is
the Nintendo Switch physical price? Nintendo themselves has not said

(46:28):
a lip of anything about this. So therefore, until Nintendo
themselves says something, I don't want to go down that
road about is physical going to be ten more dollars
or five more dollars or whatever? Right now we know
marri Car World is eighty dollars, Knackong seventy. The Switch
To editions vary between seventy and eighty, depending on if

(46:49):
they include extra content like Kirby, or you don't include
content like the Breath of the Wild switch To edition,
which does not include the DC So that makes that
game ninety dollars if you choose to buy the DLC
separately from the switch To edition, which has already got
that ten dollars upgrade. What do you do you think Nintendo?

(47:14):
I mean, obviously Nintendo doesn't care about what you pay.
They may charge you ten bucks for a freaking ad
for the Nintendo switch to and welcome to her right,
Where do you kind of land on this thing? Like, man,
that game is eight years old? You can't include the DLC.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I land on what I said last week when I said, like,
Nintendo sem vics are becoming a lot more of like
greedy or just you know, money driven, Like I don't
think why I would have put up with this shit,
And there's no one like I think Reggie, you know,
he was like he was talking about standing up to
like uh the Mario guy, MEI Moto, Yeah, Ammian Moto

(47:54):
wanting to charge for wee sports, And Reggie's like, no,
like give it away, like it.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, this is the game that's going to get people
to buy your console.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
It's it's like the only you know, one of the
few only good things for the WED that like actually
demonstrates this technology. Well, the surest fuck isn't Red Steel
like get you know, and Memoto just Memota just being
pissed about it even like now. And it's like there's
like a fundamental not understanding of the market. And it's

(48:25):
like I'm sure Mimoto he's really rooted in like the
Japanese market, and like you know how they buy games.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
But oh when they lowered, they lowered the prices of
the console for the Japanese, right, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, but it's also like, yeah, go into any you know,
Japanese game store, of the games are under like five bucks.
Basically they can get them copy Mario World for Super
Fam account for a dollar, you know, one hundred yen.
That doesn't exist in America, right, I mean, if anything,

(48:59):
it just keeps going up and up, you know with
retro games and stuff. So I think that stipid demo
thing whenever the coction, yeah, that should be free. That
should be packing at least with the first round, you know,
the initial people you know buying the thing, and yeah,

(49:21):
it just seems like they're beginning like less used to
feel like magical. It's same like Disney and Disney last
had a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
They're doing that more in other things, right, they're doing
the Disney thing in Hey, come to our theme parks,
you'll get your magic there. Come watch our movie.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Right, No, come to our theme parks and spend thousands
of dollars.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Right, but you get that cool like moment of oh man,
Nintendo love all this old stuff, and they're banking on
that nostalgia to try to sell you this stuff. And
it just feels like, man, it feels like Nintendo of
old would have said, Okay, you know what, it's been
long enough, we made our money on After the Wild DLC.
Let's just give it to them all. Give it all

(50:04):
to them for seventy right.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's an old game. It came out with the original
Switch one, like you know.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Uh and the and the we you.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, well yeah, we exactly it was the last right we.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Still like you know, it's a two generation old game.
Like imagine if I mean I'm not talking the online part,
but imagine a g T A five had come out
with the actual story DLC for PS three and for
the p S five version.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
They're like, no, we're gonna make it still. You're gonna
make you.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Still buy its for you know, the epilogue to you know,
uh Vincent or not Vincent, but uh, I forget to
get any get any of the characters names to that thing.
But you know it's been yeah, but yeah, it's a
here here more like heist, like single player heist or something.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
But people be outrage, Oh for sure, it's just and
there are people outrighted this. It's just it's that like
fake outrage where you get mad, but it's like, you
know you're gonna buy it anyway, so it kind of
is what it is. Although to be fair, it's DLC,
you don't have to buy it doesn't preclude you from
buying the actual game or just getting the ten dollars

(51:15):
upgrade to get a game you're with you own. But look,
we'll see if they ever actually exercise the lower end
of this variable pricing with games.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
My crystal ball saying no, but.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You know, i'd imagine that they're gonna try to keep
things in the seventy and eighty range because that's what
they want. The game prices to be they want them
to be at that price. And again, if I'm take
two right now, I'm looking at GTA six and I'm like, yo,
we can easily charge one hundred dollars for this thing,
especially because they get to they get to just watch

(51:53):
that system comes out June fifth, and people still buy
these games and everything, even though apparently according to game Stop,
there's gonna be a lot of systems, but there's not
gonna be a lot of physical games for you to buy.
They're not gonna get a lot of games, but of
course you don't need that many. You can just go
buy them a little sword. So right, we'll see, uh

(52:14):
one positive, I guess that they're gonna make this Zelda
Notes app have even more to it. There's gonna be
a twenty four hour Lack reward that you can roll
once a day, and one of those rewards is going
to be a weapon repair reward. So the thing that
you couldn't do at all in the Breath of the Wild,

(52:36):
and then of course they did have it to where
you could do it with certain enemies in Tiers of
the Kingdom. Now the bane of a lot of people's existence,
you're gonna be able to roll and get that reward
on using the Zelda notesap. You think it's gonna get
people to use that app?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Down, No, you're.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Gonna I don't, you know, I don't think people are.
You know, new fans are going to care. And the
people who already really care, they already have a strategy,
they already build.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, they've already played the game. Yeah, I do think it,
you know, looking prettier and all that, you are going
to get people to go back and play this, because
you know that was the problem with you know, Tears
of the Kingdom especially was man there was parts of
it where it just ran bad, right, and running better
on a new system might get people would be like, Okay,

(53:23):
I think I'll finally finish that game. Maybe people will
check out the notesap for the GPS whatever. But hey, look,
I'm down with Nintendo's trying to find different ways to
use your phone besides giving us games that outside of
firing them, I don't think anybody wants. So, you know,

(53:44):
these apps are interesting. It's another way to make your
Switch online thing worth it. Also, if you have switch online,
you can get all these upgrades, at least for the
Zelda games included, So I guess, I guess that's good
to another just pretty much like the Animal Crossing DLC.
Then they've done with other DLCs where they included in

(54:05):
your Switch Online subscription, So right, you know, positive on
that front, and it's really not it's not that expensive considering,
you know, for one month of PS plus extra or
sorry premium or one month of game Pass, you can
get a whole year. Yeah, regular Switch Online, you know,
think about that. Not that bad.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Speaking of until they raise the price of that as well.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I feel like that one. They'll wait as long as
they need to because they're trying to make it such
a worthwhile thing that now it's you have a whole
button that you can't use if you're not subscribed to
Switch Online, So you know, maybe maybe that will get
people to subscribe because you want to use game chat.

(54:51):
Speaking of Xbox, they did reveal their summer showcase date.
It's going to be June eighth, so two days three
days after the Switch to launches and two days after
Summer Game Fest. As it's per usual, they usually have
to be around summer game fests, so a lot of
times it gets included in that whatever it will air
at one pm Eastern and following that will be an

(55:13):
Outer Worlds too direct. Kind of neat for Obsidian to
have this time slot. They didn't give it to Call
of Duty again. They gave it to Outer Worlds two here, so.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Give it a worth while game.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Well that's it. You don't need to sell Call of
Duty on people. They already know. Like last year it
made sense. Right, you're introducing game that it's gonna be
on Game Pass all that stuff. You know, so cool
that Outer Worlds two is going to get that moment. Uh.
You know Xbox, if there's one thing they do right,
these summer showcases, they nail it pretty well when it

(55:46):
comes to these things for you, you know, an hour
and a half show to watch, yeh.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Share what you want about them. It helps Xbox at
least has a dude or has a spokesman.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
You know they.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Have three number they have three roads hitting spokesman spokespeople.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, they have one, right, yes.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Phil is the main one. But Sarah, what do you
do count a little bit?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
The we're all that Tony has is let's just say,
not great or not charismatic.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, she's good but not. Yeah, it doesn't jump out
she's not Jack Tritten.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Or Nintendo has a sound effect. So that's all.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Yeah that, you know, they can have anybody there as
long as they do the snap or the click or whatever.
You're good. But yeah, so you're gonna, you know, we
have this hour and a half show what games? Do
you feel like they have to show at this thing
in order for it to be another winner Perfect Dark?

(56:48):
I think for sure you better. If you're gonna tell
me that Fable got delayed, you better have something of
the show for Fable more. Yeah, no, not pre off
of it is even though that looked pretty good. Still,
you know you need to have something to show there.
It'd be interesting. And like if you show Perfect Dark
last year, do you get Perfect Dark year off and

(57:10):
show off you know, State of d K three which
only got a trailer last year, which had no release dates?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Interesting to the show off Silk Song.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
It's coming to game Pass, so you could, right, you
can technically show off Silk Song. I feel like yours
E Day has to have a big presence. Yes, if
it's still supposed to be coming this year. Could ever Wild?
You know, Phil technically addressed ever Wild? So will they
have an ever while? Uh, two to be like, hey,

(57:44):
this game is still happening, you know, don't worry about it.
It's still coming any other like, you know, I like
to see a clockwor revolution, Like what's going on.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
With that Brute Force too?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
You think you think we'll get Blade and Speaks?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
I kind of forgot about it.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Maybe it'd be funny though if they had, you know,
the Ali voicing.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I forgot to mention that the Marathon. Actually, they announced
that it's coming on Xbox and it's still kind of
weird that that's a Sony studio. But because of the
deal that they sign with Bungie, Uh, it's coming to Xbox,
so right, Yeah, interesting if that's eventually comes to switch
to as well.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
It has to like they can't afford it on the Expert, right.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
They definitely got to give it all the chances they have. Yeah,
I mean, I'll be interested to see what else Microsoft
has cooking that. No, Like, it's are we going to
get the next uh Double Find game? You know you've
been asking for that, Like, what are they doing? Is
Fall Fantasy seven remake going to finally show up with
this thing now that Nintendo has uh broken the seal

(58:53):
on the going to other platforms thing. I feel like
this is the moment, right, It's probably gonna be the
same kind of release window as Nintendo.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
It'd be fun if they're like, no, it's the Xbox,
Isn't isn't powerful in the firm fount of fantasy.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that Square has a decent
presence here as well. You think we get any surprises
from Sega Atlas maybe you know, they.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Know may I mean maybe Sega maybe like some news
tonic thing, but don't be won't be a Cuza. I
don't damn frow won't be persona or metaphor you know
anything like that.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I mean, they got to be working on whatever the
next lack of dragon thing is right with Eachuban like, right,
I don't think they're doing what is it that centric
Project Century game? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You know, that could be they do.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
It'll just be like a very quick teaser. It'll just
be like if you've on in the streets of Hawaii again,
or you know.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Or whatever next city they go to, or Baltimore. Maybe
maybe crazy Taxi or jet jet set could be shown
off here. Because they have that relationship with Xbox back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
In the day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
It would be great if they were like, Yo, we're
gonna put jet Set Radio Future back out, you know, yeah,
cause I's like the one that that game never got
a re release. Jet Set Radio did not Future and
Future is a much better game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Just to throw the sentence if we're talking about maybe
games tozer Bob did say when they talked with a
Canadian guy, a content creator Paul Jahan, was on his
channel talking about games they would love to make, and
he mentions that they would love to make a Banjo KAZOOI.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Sure they're not going to make it, so, you know
I have been Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Rare is not going to make it. So if there's
anybody that's qualified, man, I'd love Torster Bobbity making. You know,
Nuts and Bolts is kind of like that game that
a lot of people don't like. There's some people that
you like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I like nothing multifying, but it's not like the collecting
puzzle pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, Until or whatever her name is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
You know, it's nice, it's not the experience that you want,
but yeah, I mean I'd love to see it. That
would be a really cool surprise if that happens to
get I mean, there's been rumors about they'll do a
big drop with Call of Duty. Also, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Conquer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Finally, we have a friend that I'm sure would go
crazy if there was a big announcement for that brought out. Yeah,
it would be interesting. Yeah, look, we'll see what happens.
It's still a few months away. You know. We supposedly

(01:01:43):
this Oblivion remake is going to get announced at any
point during this month. I don't know, or do they
wait till the Summer showcase to just be like, oh,
it's out right now, but we'll see. We'll see if
you get anything. But that's the wise because you know
Doom Dark Ages, will it would have been out? Will
they have anything else cooking anything? You know? Will they

(01:02:06):
do something else with Starfield? Let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I could see them put them going like hey, Starfield's
complete edition.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yep, yeah, you know, if Last of Us can have
a complete edition, why not? Right just to throw this
out there because I did the ride up for outter
Haven on it, and also I'm supposed to get beta codes.
I don't know what happened with that. I did go
ahead and preregister for rematches. This is that slow cap

(01:02:40):
soccer game that they unveiled at the Game Awards that
people were like, this is their next game, okay Rocket Yeah,
the Rocket League's soccer game. It is only thirty bucks,
but it is going to be on Game Pass Day one. Also,
July nineteenth is when it launches on PC's Series X
and PlayStation five. The new trailer they showed makes it

(01:03:05):
sound like it's gonna be really fun. It's very Arcade influenced,
but they also want to like have some simulation soccer
elements to it. So I'm excited to finally get to
play this, whether it's They're supposed to be doing a
the first beta next week but on PC only. They
did ask, you know, if I wanted on Xbox or
PlayStation for whenever they do other betas, So it feels

(01:03:27):
like they're gonna do a rollout of beta's several times
before we get to July. So hopefully I'll get to
play it at some point and talk about it. But
it looks fun for everything I've seen from that, a
game that yeah being yeah, let's see if they do
actual people here, messy DLC or something. The album of

(01:03:53):
four has a roaduemap of ten to twelve years as
Rob ferguson uh They recently unveiled the you know, road
maps of twenty twenty six, but Brod Ferguson was asked, like,
how long do they think this is gonna go before
there's a thought of Diablo five. We said ten to
twelve years. That leave you with a good feelings you'll

(01:04:16):
be playing Diablo four for a while, or.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I mean, the expansions are fine, but like I looked
at the road map they announced like the rest of
the year, and it's just disappointing as all hell.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
And I I read that there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, it's like cosmetic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I mean, it's kinds of out of mind cosmetics in theory,
but like it's all the cosmetics in the game right now.
Just and it's like I got money in the game
because I got like the Premium edition, but it's like, well,
I they spend any money in this crap.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
It's all just so basic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
And and I think they announced like a partnership for
like like you know, like a third party partnership for
like let me said, yo, I want like I want
to be riding like the Coca Cola Polar Bear or
something cool like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
That, you know, I mean, and that would be very
not gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Len So I don't mind in theory, like if they
make meaningful expansions, that's one thing. But I really dislike
how they're focused on, like the seasonal content stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yeah, and because it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Doesn't it doesn't it really doesn't go back in like
the main game. So it's like, why would it. Why
would they keep up with seasonal content when you know,
three after three months, the season's over and this character
just get to drop kicked back to the main game.
If any they're cool shit anymore, you know, Right, So
that's my take on it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I mean it's good. I'm glad to hear that Rob
Ferguson has a big, long road map for it. Hopefully
you know a lot of it is better than what
they've shown already for you and anybody else that could
use to play that game or have a passing interest
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I still play it every day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I got loaded up kill at the main boss or
like a great quick dungeon run.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah, non none, But like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I already have a really good main character, so I
don't want to create a bunch of alts either.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yeah. That's another thing, right, Like they have you where
you have to create the alts and stuff lastly here, Uh,
we're not going to get the full like breakdown of
it until next week on the nineteenth, and then furthermore
on these you know, I'm sure like May the fourth,
they might have something as well for Star Wars Zero Company.

(01:06:22):
That's the name of the star that turn based strategy
game that's being made over at EA. This guy announced
along with it when they announced the Star Wars Jedi
third Entry and then that shooter that they've now canceled.
This is being made by bit React to the people
that are you know, made from Fracis Games. Uh right,

(01:06:45):
like kind of cast offs and stuff. Yeah, I mean
I think a Star Wars turn based strategy game would
be interesting, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Like they've done before.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Really, So yeah, we'll see if they what they have
to show on the nineteenth, And you know that and
Or Season two is coming pretty quick here as well.
So they got a lot of Star Wars. I've watched
like the first five episodes and then I forgot to
go back, but I did like a lot of what

(01:07:16):
I saw that show. Yeah, there's a lot of people
that love that show. So I'm glad that they gave
it the the season two. I am sad that speaking
of shows, Mythic Quests was canceled. At least they're doing.
They're letting them have an ending. They're gonna like reshoot

(01:07:36):
the ending, and then it's going to be out there
next week or something. So it's crazy to think. Like
when they first announced that, I think everybody was laughing
about how it's going to be terrible and all that stuff,
and then they wound up last four seasons and right,
very much like all of Apple stuff, It's like you'll
have like the one breakout show and then they have
all these other great things on there, and nobody knows

(01:07:58):
that they're there because Apple doesn't promote their stuff at all.
Like I mean, I also don't have an iPhone, so
maybe if you have an iPhone, they're constantly bombarding you
with like Apple TV, Apple TV. But they did finally
released an Android app not too long ago, so that's promising.
But then they've also stopped doing the It felt like
for a while everybody that I knew, on every device

(01:08:22):
thing that I had, was doing a free three months
of Apple TV, and then all of a sudden, it
feels like this year they stopped doing them. Right, That's
how I would check out content is that like my
LGTV would give me three months free, then something else
would give me for three months free. And it's like
I think I had a whole year where I had
three months free. So it's like, yeah, you know, but yeah,

(01:08:46):
if that sucks, that metic pest getn't canceled, But I
mean the fact that it lasted four years that's still
a testament to them. So but all right, I guess
we can just go ahead and end the show like
we always do here talking about the oh go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Yeah, no, I was gonna bring up speaking of TV
crap you no, Black Mirror, find a game back?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah, Black Mirror. And then of course the last of
US season two's came back yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
You didn't mention it or because I'm I don't even
think you know what you no came back? But Doctor
Who came Back?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
I did not. Now I have to go and watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Yeah, yeah, they did such a poor job of letting
people know, you know, it's like it's back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Like, to be honest, the only thing I watched like
that's like live TV is sports. So if that does
not come on a basketball game or soccer game commercial,
I'm probably not seeing it. To be fair or it
comes on Hulu when they do that, right, But you're right,

(01:09:49):
like I feel like man Disney owns Hulu, Like you
would think that they would be plastering Doctor Who commercials
all over that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
But it's not even it's not it's not on Hulu,
it's on Disney.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, but they're all work together, like you know, like's
they could they could you ads for? I mean maybe
on Disney Play. I don't watch any like literally, I
have that bundle and Disney Plus is the one that
I don't want. So you know, well, we'll see. I
guess all events, I will get to it now that
I know that it's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
But all right, uh, let's get into some of the
games that are coming out for this week. Shout out
to Repose, which is a cool looking indie game that's
like done in black and white but also kind of
looks like an old style like the three D games
that people should If you like that kind of stuff,
go check that out for sure. Indiana Jones Are the

(01:10:41):
Great Circle comes out the PlayStation five. We'll see if
this does well. The pre orders are supposedly, you know,
pretty good for this game, not as high as far
as the Horizon five, I imagine, but they're supposed to be
like neck and neck right up there on the PlayStation stores.
So we'll see if people actually wind up and join
the game, and uh see if it gets any kind

(01:11:02):
of buzz on PlayStation the way they did on Xbox,
with the of course game pess helping there. The lust
Foil photography sim game that another one of those Aniprona
games that is literally about photography, comes out on Xbox,
Fishing in PC. The Monument Valley games come to Switch also,

(01:11:23):
and then of course the Lunar Remaster collection that we
talked about comes to everything. If you're a fan of
old school RBG is definitely one to try to support
if you can. Also, Tempopo is coming on a game pass.
But that's that cool like puzzle game that looks like
you're controlling like a mushroom or elephant looking thing and

(01:11:46):
solving doing like platforming a puzzle platforming sort of. And
I'm sure there's some of the cool things, but that's
kind of like the big highlights for this week right there. Yeah,
then you know, we're looking at clar Obscure and some
of the things like the next week after that. So

(01:12:07):
but all right, thank you everybody for joining us, whether
you watch live, listen later, watch later, we do appreciate you.
Thank you so much. Go like, subscribe, follow wherever you can.
That helps us so much. Write a review on the
podcast service of your choice that helps us out a lot,
and we'll see all later.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
What bye,

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