Donkey Kong Bananza Impressions, Zelda Movie Has its Leads # 453

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.
I am your host, Sean Garmer. Here with me as usual,
mister Mark Morrison, and well it's time to go bananas
for Donkey Kong Bonanzas. I have been playing that this weekend.
Got plenty of thoughts, so that will be our major

(00:36):
game we're talking about this week. Also, Nintendo's got some
other things cooking, like the leads of the legs of
a Zelda movie have been cast already. That Assassin's Creed
Netflix show has apparently been green lit, so has Fall
Up five that's also been green lit, according to some reports.

(01:00):
There's a Mortal Kombat movie trailer that we're gonna talk
about just a second. And Ubisa has finally green lit
that subsidiary thing where it's supposed to have a sassage
p for a Cry and Rainbow six all in one deal.
I will see how that impacts things for the rest

(01:20):
of you. So we got plenty of things to talk
about and we'll get into all those and more. All right, Well, Mark,
what about that? What do you think about the Mortal
Kombat too?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Where was Cole Everyone's favorite character. Thank god, I think
he actually is. I try someone respond that he actually
isn't it for like a second.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Okay, that's as long as he needs to be in it.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think he might be the guy getting cut in
half by Jade. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Happy with that.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, that looks good. I still think it's weird that, Like,
it's weird that like lu Kane lu Kang isn't the
main character.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Uh, like he's not in the trailer, and he kind
of is like the main character of the game, like
saying with a reu and street Fighter. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, it's like they they had to have Kolb be
the main character for the first one, and then now
this one. It's like a lot of I mean maybe
it's just this trailer. It's just focusing a lot on
Johnny Cage obviously Carl Urban, so they wanted to, you know,
like focus on that.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah. But yeah, it's good. I assume get the stupid
dragon tattoo and then be able to chuck off green fireballs,
new the Shadow kicking all that crap.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think it looks solid, you know, looks fun.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean the first one was a was a
good movie. And I mean if this can live up
to that as well, then.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
My only hope, and I don't think it will happen.
It'd be funny if, like, because Scorpion in the in
the last movie was actually a good guy, right, and
he will probably be a good guy in this. But
it'll be funny if like him and Johnny Cage are
fighting together against you know, some evil you know, chau Khan,

(03:16):
you know, baddies whatever, and Scorpion does the spirit thing
because it is in the trailer that you know, get
over here, and Johnny Kage just looks at him and goes,
why do you do that with a different voice.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I love that?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, where'd that come from? Like, but yeah, looks cool.
You know. I don't think i'll see in the theater,
but I'll probably see it when it comes down in
like you know, DVD or Screaming or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So yeah, I saw it on when it hit the
well that's just back when we yea Yeah, so on
HBO Max or whatever, right, so that's where I saw it.
But yeah, the same for me. I probably won't see
it in the theater.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
But I mean if it gets like shockingly good reviews,
then I may go you know, seeing matinee or something,
but not be about it.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Does nobody have a release date or no, not yet?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, yeah, I think it made also to be just
as long as they're not coming out next to like
some other movie that I want.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
October twenty fourth is the release date, so only a
few months away, I mean, yeah, okay, And yeah, it
doesn't look from the credit it looks like the guy,
you know, Cole is in the movie as well. But
you know, I hope I saw he gets killed in
like the first five minutes and then it's all Johnny Gage.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Hopefully they've learned yea from that. For sure.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm happy that Cano's back, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, he was great and the first thing he loved it. Yeah,
I agree there. All right, well we'll get into more
movie talk uh in a little bit here, but since
uh so, we can go ahead and I guess mister
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I guess let's go ahead and kick it up. Let's
waste any more time here. A Donkey Kong Bonanza is
the first major single player switch to release. Obviously came
out on Thursday, so I've had it since that Thursday morning,
got to play it starting Thursday, played you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

(07:02):
I didn't play any today because work was just too crazy.
But I don't really know how many of these you know,
layers there are. Uh so I really don't know exactly
where I'm at. I know it's like I've gotten to
like the third world, I guess you could say. And
the game is just an absolute blast to play. I

(07:26):
don't uh you know, if you're you're coming from the
Donkey Kong sixty four thinking of three D, this blows
that out of the water. This this is definitely the
Odyssey team at work doing some fantastic stuff. And that
that picture that's going around where it's like a little

(07:48):
bit of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Odyssey, a lot
of Hoax Ultimate Destruction and some Kirby Forgotten Land all
smashed together. Yeah, yeah, call that this game a lot
of ultimate destruction for sure. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, I just said yeah, I mean, I mean, and
that's to.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
His benefit, right, because like I'm glad that they decided
to go in different or don't just do the two
D platformers, but now it's three D, like give us
what you really kind of want, whether Donkey Kong like
he is kind of the wholk of Nintenda, like, let
us just be able to blast through anything we want.

(08:33):
And I love the fact that, yeah, there's things that
gate you, Like, you know, the whole story hook is
that you have that the Void Company or whatever that
are like kind of terrorizing the town so to speak, right,
and they are doing their best to be annoying and

(09:01):
they gate things behind their purple mess or whatever that
you have to use Pauline to sing. And I love
the way they introduced Pauline here also just you know,
it is it is the thing that they saw they
showed in the trailer. But you know, I don't think
she gets overly annoying. I do. I do appreciate like

(09:23):
how they just they make her kind of like your
partner and she helps you out and finding like the
bananas and things like that, or just you know, her
singing is what causes the transformations, so you know, and
and also like even goes out to like the gear
that you can get, like the different you know, outfits

(09:44):
and stuff that you you get the fossils for Pauline
also gets outfits as well, so it does feel like
you're a team. And I really thought that was cute,
Like it's a nice showcase for DK to have a
little bit of a heart there. You know, I cared

(10:04):
way more about the story than I thought I was
going to. But honestly, like you'd think that you will
get tired of breaking stuff and you just don't, Like,
I don't think I've ever played a game, and I'm
not one that really likes to go. It's weird that
I have games where I really like to go exploring
and stuff like that. Like especially thirty three kind of

(10:25):
helps with that because because of the way that the
gameplay is with the fighting system, you want to go
and find the the next like boss or the next
thing that you haven't seen yet to see how they
fight and whatnot they and obviously you know, you can
go and find different weapons and stuff out in the world.
If you go explore and things like that. But a

(10:48):
lot of times in these games like that, I'm kind
of just I'm gonna go from main point to main point,
and I'm not big on just oh, let me just
play around here and be here for three hours. And
legitimately that first time to the I don't know how
many time I picked up the game, I will literally

(11:09):
just as I'm going towards wherever the waypoint is, I'm
smashing stuff. I'm just breaking the whole ground open, I'm
busting up the rocks next with it. Yeah, a lot
of it is you're just getting the same gold thing
over and over, and that does help you because that
allows you to have the currency to be able to,
you know, get other things whatever. But the main currency

(11:29):
that is these like banana chips, and then also the
fossils which get the outfits, and then obviously the bananium
gems that get you the skill points that DK has,
and he does have like a skill tree that you
can go through and it's pretty simple stuff. You know,
charge up it make his punches stronger. The the don't

(11:52):
have to wait so long to do the to fill
up the meter for the transformations. He has some cool
moves that he can do aside from the traditional like
slapping the ground and stuff. And then the slap on
the ground has like a sonar thing that allows you
to find the bananas and the fossils and stuff too,
which that's great because you'll legitimately just if it wasn't

(12:16):
for these maps to kind of appear when you're smashing.
And that's another reason too, Like you'll want to go
and buzst open these chests that have the mats with
the fossils of the bananas, so you can go and
find them easier and just find them on your map
and go and look for them instead of just going
and and like doing it blindly, which you can find

(12:40):
things that way, and that's fun. Like I don't know
how many times I've had fun just literally you can
use one button to smash the ground and he'll go underground,
and then you can keep smashing and basically making a
tunnel underground, and then you make your own tunnel to
go up to where you just were, you know, and
you can make it all connect and I've literally made
like all underground tunnels sometimes just doing that radomly, just

(13:05):
having fun doing that. So I haven't played the the
co op thing. Yet I've heard it's fine where you're
using Pauline as like she sings out words and that
kind of destroys things too, So you're both kind of
getting have fun with the with the smashing stuff. The
music in here is great. Uh they play the DK

(13:28):
rap when you make a little like outhouse kind of
thing for yourself.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's important thing.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And and then when you sleep you hear the Donkey
Kong country like main theme also, so that's that's fun.
I yeah, man, just really been enjoying this game. Uh,
and I that's coming from somebody that didn't. I wasn't
super confident about it, uh going in until they showed

(14:01):
that direct. You know that kind of gave you more
of the breakdown of what's gonna be in there, right,
But even then, you know, you still wonder, like, Okay,
all they keep showing is you know, the Dong Kong
breaking stuff, and it's like, it's not gonna hold me
for the whole game, And yeah, I'm pretty sure I
have a lot more to go, but it's just it's
the whole thing of like, yeah, it's a collect the

(14:23):
on and I understand sixty four with let on too,
but it's like the way they do it is there's
always something. There's these little hidden secret like mini areas
that you can go into and they'll change up from
being uh, just oh, beat up these enemies to oh no,

(14:43):
you have to like do a puzzle and figure out
how you're gonna get the bananas and uh, there's like
two or three of them in here, and you gotta
you gotta find them all or and it's a certain
amount of time. There's ones where you have to just
like destroy things in a certain order. Like they change
it up, and I appreciate that, Like they they definitely

(15:06):
do make it to where anytime you feel like you're
going to kind of okay, I'm done with it. And
I've seen people and I feel like I never know
if they're really like trolling. I've seen people just like,
oh man, I can't with this. You're doing. All you're
doing is breaking things whatever, Like that's not that's not fun.

(15:27):
And I mean to each their own and all that.
If you paid seventy dollars and you didn't really kind
of look into what it was, you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Know it is it work, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
But you know I definitely do. I'm not there yet
like it's it's definitely like up there probably like my
number you know two or three game right now. It's
not beating Expedition thirty three for me right now, but
I'm enjoying it that much. I do. I do believe

(16:00):
it that you know, that game of the year hype
is it's fair, because you know, I've heard that apparently
it gets harder, you know as you go later into
the levels, which I know a lot of people complaining about, like, oh, well,
it doesn't It's not really that hard, you know. It's
like it's not challenging. It's like, well, ma, honestly, really
wasn't that challenging either. It was more about Okay, you

(16:23):
complete the game and then you can get into the
challenging stuff if you want.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, it's more about like the experience or yeah, like
most most oftendo games aren't super hard or so.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, but it's not like the Princess Peach game either,
like you know, so like there are some of those
like little minigame challenges that are are kind of difficult
or you do kind of have to like rack your
brain a little bit and find out how or where
you're where you're going with that what you need to,

(16:57):
like what you need to hit or break to be
able to get to where that you know, banana is
or whatever. And I love that. It just kind of
like throws you out there too. It doesn't just go
outside of the initial section where you know it's kind
of telling you, Okay, you need to do this to
punch up or punch down or whatever. It doesn't just

(17:18):
hold your hand all the time, and I do appreciate
that too. It kind of lets you figure things out
as you go, and for being a Nintendo game, they
don't always do that, so and that's that's appreciated too.
So so far, I'm really really enjoying the game. I'll

(17:40):
I have more to let's see if I can. It's
my girlfriend's birthday on Friday, so I don't know how
much I'm gonna be able to play this weekend, but
I'll see how much I can play before I get
to Friday, and then maybe i'll have more to talk
about it for next week. But you know, yeah, the
hype is real for this for sure. You been you've

(18:03):
been playing anything?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
No just Bang, chipping Away, Death Training some more and
a little more Red Dead Redemption one. That's about it,
and I.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Go, okay, you got a game you can't talk about, but.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, no, I probably won't play. He always just like
gives me codes for stuff that something works out and
sometimes doesn't. And I looked at this, looked at this game.
I'm like, yeah, this my type of game.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So you're just like, all right, well it's there.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, here's another game to add to my Steam collection
that I'll never touch because I think it's like a
tower defense game but or it's like some weird rogue
light tower defense card card thing and it's like, oh god,
there's one too many adjectives in this thing. So but yeah,
death training, you know, keep keeping at that. Yeah. I

(19:02):
read it a damp and winst cool. And if I
pick up Donkey Kong uh when I may head it
to Costco tomorrow and if it's still on sale, may
grab it there. I think gets like sixty bucks there.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So okay, that's not bad getting in physician.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
If for a physical copy.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, no, that's that's nice. You're getting it for ten
bucks off right, You're not having to like trade anything in.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's just on sale, yeah, because cost just has games
for cheaper you know.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Sweet. I wonder if I'm assuming you know Nintendo knows
about that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised they didn't.
They didn't renew their thing with Walmart because there's a
lot of people that would just go to Walmart and
get it physical just for the right ten dollars off.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't know how well that actually worked out for Walmart, uh,
because it's like the reason Costco can do this is,
you know, have to pay to get into Costco. So yeah,
so but I mean, I don't know about the Walmarts
by you, but like the Walmart's by me or like
becoming ghost towns for games, Like most of them ripped

(20:17):
out the switch one Kiosk for like the switch to one,
and then they didn't bother to put in a switch
to Kiosk, so oh wow, Really it's just like this
weird empty space Like I saw one that had it
and I'm like, wow, okay, But then most of them
just have like a bar countertop or like there's like
weird you know extension or like you know, power strip.

(20:38):
But they can Nintendo brand an easy a d after
in it and that's it. And it's like did the
guy does not come or what's you know, the switch twos,
but not for a while, like.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like, did y'all just decide the last minute he didn't
want right? Yeah, that's crazy because a lot of the
walmarts had like big, you know, advertisements for it even outside.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah so, and I still yet, I mean, we talked
about this last week, but I'd still to even see
a switch to in a store, you know, like new or.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think that says a lot about you know, and
especially now with Donkey Kong, I think that that's anybody
that was kind of I do think this could be
the game that if you were on the fence about
do I need to switch to? Right, I think this
this game could sell you. Yeah, definitely on that so

(21:34):
you know, if you were DOWBT, and I think you should.
I mean, I do think the people that are like
going in the Best Buy and playing it for five minutes,
I don't think this is a game that this is
not a game you play in five minutes and go
oh yeah, all right, I love it, Like this is
this is a game that you kind of like gotta

(21:54):
get past the opening section, kind of really be let
loose and then kind of be like Okay, I'm gonna
explore and now I'm gonna do. I'm gonna explore however
I want, and that's when you kind of get into
the fund. Yeah, so you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
If I can get it, I'll try to play it
at some point find crack out my switch to.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, there you go have your reason to finally open
that thing up.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right, two months or a month and a half or whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Right, but all right, I guess that'll do for our
what we're playing this week section here Donkey Confidenza is
a winner. See how much further I get till for
next week?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I got to finish Expedition thirty three.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I do. But now I've got this awesome game stare
at me in the face. So it's like it's hard.
I don't have anything till what Ninja gott and Rage bound.
So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I need to go look in and see how long the
Donkey Kong game is. That's the problem. I keep like
because I want to keep exploring and stuff. I'm not
just mainline in the game, so I probably could be
a lot further because I like the fact that it
doesn't really okay, it lets you open up the next area,
like eventually you'll get to the point. It's like not
always like oh it ends with the boss, right, you

(23:22):
just find the the little key that unlocks it, and
then okay, here's the next layer and then oh, okay,
you don't necessarily it doesn't go oh well, here go
down it gop is it for you? But it's not
like it tells you, okay, you got to go down
right now. You can decide on your own if you
want to go down right then or you want to wait,

(23:43):
and that's when it's happening. Okay, I've what he got
it open, so I'm just gonna go find other things,
and then I've probably spent another hour in there that
I could have been progressing the story war but you
know I'm not so But all right, let's move on
to some other Nintendo stuff, which this one might be
really old by the time you watch this. To listen

(24:03):
to this, especially if you're watching or listening tomorrow, because
the twenty second is when we're going to have the
Pokemon presents. It will be one of the longer Pokemon
presents because it'll be twenty four minutes long, and they
haven't had one that long since twenty twenty three, which
had a thirty five minute Pokemon Presents. So I'm sure

(24:28):
we will have the traditional you know, Pokemon Unite, especially
now with TCG pocket doing its thing and the other
little ancillary things. They will promote that, but they definitely
have a big game that they need to talk about
here in Pokemon Za. And maybe they will tease Generation

(24:52):
ten now that the switch to is out and next
year is the thirtieth anniversary of Pokemon, so let's see,
will we get Gen.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Ten another remake of Pokemon Blue and red? Yeah, like
they do like.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Reef green this time or whatever, and and red? And
what's the next one? Will be black and white? Right?
Those are the ones that are technically next on the
docket if they're doing that. Hopefully that's not what it is.
I still hear people wishing, they wishing and hoping for

(25:34):
Let's Go Jodo, you know, whichever version that's gonna whichever
Pokemons they use for those which, uh, if they can
somehow figure out a way to do that with with
like including legends Arsius or or the Za catching mechanic

(25:56):
and not the Pokemon Go I got to use the
actual like motion thing, then I'm good. It's just that
got old after a while right where you're not battling
and stuff. It's just like it's mainly catching and and
then just kind of going through it and it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Hey man, it's got to catch them all, not gotta
battle them all.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, well, I mean scarting Vallet showed that. Apparently it's
still is a little bit there, right, but yeah, let's
see it. Let's hope for some uh, some cool things.
There's even gonna be apparently a musical thing beforehand, like
an hour before like a music concert. So that's why

(26:41):
they keep showing these images like Pikachu like a DJ
looking set up or whatever. So we'll see what that's about.
If they end up posting that on YouTube as well,
why not? Uh. The speaking of a movie news Legend

(27:02):
of Zelda has its two main leads with we know
who's going to play Link and who's going to play Zelda.
Sixteen year old British actor Benjamin Evan Ainsworth, who was
the voice of Pinocchio in that bad Disney live action
version of it, the one with Tom Hanks. He's going

(27:26):
to be Link. And then you have Bo Bragason is
going to be Zelda. She's twenty one years old. Also
English actress she was on and BBC one series three
Girls on the Jetty and also the Disney Plus Renegade No,
which I've seen neither one of those.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh yeah, I mean this is I think it's good
for a few different reasons. One, it's not just Tom Holland.
And yeah, the one the one checked a kip kept
suggesting it was gonna be Zelda.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I don't think that was ever gonna happen. I'm sorry.
I know people wanted it, but Nintendo was never gonna, yeah,
be controversial like that.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I do think it's good because, like I always thought
Zelda was like a little older at least that's how
they kind of always hinted that in the games. Yeah,
not like Link is fifteen and Zelda's forty five or anything,
but like a few years older. And this actress doesn't
look twenty one. I mean she looks, you know, eighteen,

(28:32):
or she can look younger. So uh and yeah, you know,
should be good or you know, I hope it's good.
Who do you think they get to play gannendorf.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Uh? I think they might complete the triumvit of having
another unknown or whatever, just to have.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Them all I got I got two suggestions. One is
Paul Giamatti go'd be pretty funny, and the other is,
I don't know the guy his real name or you know,
actual name, but shame is from ww.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Shameless to be hilarious. But he would get what's that
movie where Paul Giamani's it's like a kid's movie or whatever,
and it wound up being like his most popular role
and he didn't expect it to be or he's like,
it's turned blue. I don't know, it's sick. I can't

(29:27):
remember the name of it right now, but yeah, he
that would be funny, big fat liar, Yeah, big fella,
that'd be cool. Uh. You know, Nintendo's done a good
job with picking the you know, look at that whole
Mario cast. We all kind of had our reservations, suppcially

(29:50):
with Chris Brade is Mario, and that wound up working out.
But obviously you're not having to see them in live action.
They're all animated, so that kind of covers up for
that a little bit. This is.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I still think Anya Taylorjoy would have made a
pretty kick ass like live action Princess or Princess Peach.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, I agree. I agree with that too.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, you know, I'm sure this will be okay. I
It's it's weird because like it's kind of the same
problem as Mario. It's like there's not not a ton
to hang a plot on, a movie plot on, you.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Know, at least all that has like a lot of
low It's very much like Mario. They have a lot
of years, a lot of lowre of things that they
can pull from.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I'm only in favor of that is if the first
movie is just like you know, place setting or like
world building, and then they come out with like three
other movies and it's like, Okay, this is this is
the movie if Ganandorf didn't die, this movie that if
Ganandorff did die, and this is like the third Timeline movie.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean it gets there's some parts of legend
and they get kind of weird. So yeah, you know,
and not just majoras mask either, Like there's other games,
like you know, Phantom Hourglass gets weird and it gets
you know, so it's like they got plenty of things

(31:20):
to go on if they want to. It's just gonna
be interesting how they introduce this. Do they make it
like the simple you know, link story and then kind
of just kind of build it out and like you said,
and just okay, this is the table fetter, this is
the basic one. And then then after that, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I have to imagine this will this will be like
a fairly I don't this may sound negative, but it's
not meant to be. This will be like a fairly
simple movie or like straightforward. But then like right at
the end, they'll discover that, like, this is a cycle
that's been happening for you know, centuries, and you know
there's always always a man, always a princess, and always

(32:03):
a mastress.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Word and you know, try force.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, it'll just like you know, the next one will
just repeat the cycle, but it'll be like, oh, an
hour in the you know, now we're in a Majora's Mask. Yeah,
creepy mood.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
They really wanted to get crazy. They could do the
Majora's Mask movie or whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
That'll be the musical musical movie. But yeah, you know,
I help, the movie is good.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
We're we're still like two years out from when this
movie is supposed to take place.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So I hope that he gets made. That's more than.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I'm not worried about it getting made. This is me
a moto and everybody involved, and they need this because
it's gonna not only help drive the game, but help
drive I'm sure Zelda will be the next like major
addition to the experient world thing.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right, So they announced it a ton of stuts this
week that we can get a new later. But like
I was like the three entertainment stories they just announced
like the day of and like, none of these arenna
actually gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
A soccer motar combat, that's.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
No, No, I mean I'm talking more like the Captain
Planet movie TV show. Yeah, or Chaka Yt being attached
to direct a Judge Dread movie, like I think gonna happen.
Remember how great the Cure movie was.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, I could see the Judge Dread happening just because you.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Know, I couldn't convenience talked about it, and it's like
he's not a great fit for it. And also he
has like a long line of you know, being attached
to craft that never happens, like a Star Wars movie
and yeah, it's like Flash Gordon nonsense, and it's like,
what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like, Yeah, I mean the wanting to bring back things
that maybe you need to keep where they are. Yeah,
Nintendo is also going to be doing a test, like
an online test for not that thing that they did
in align test for last year, and we kind of

(34:11):
don't really know what that game is. It's supposed to
be kind of like another addition like Mevers or something,
but we don't really know. They're going to do one
for Dragon Drive called Global Jam, and this is going
to happen August ninth and tenth between That would be

(34:33):
six to ten pm Eastern and then also eight to
midnight Eastern, and then you can do the time zones
backwards for you three to seven Pacific, five to nine Pacific,

(34:56):
and then also nine to one Pacific during the day
on Sunday. The game comes out August fourteenth, so that
would be like basically the weekend before. And it is
budget price. I didn't know it's twenty dollars until like
I was doing the news story for it. That actually
doesn't I'm a bit more interested in it now. I

(35:18):
thought it was gonna be either full price or they
were gonna at least charge like forty or fifty for it.
But being twenty does it make you worry that there's
not a lot to it? Or are you worried that
they don't. That means they don't have a lot of
faith in it that they're charging twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, it could be the second part, but I
see it as more as like this is the introductory price,
and we'll have a lot of add ons that will
cost money. So yeah, i'll get you.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I wonder if Nintendo is going to add in
like Nintendo things to it, like Nintendo characters, so we're
gonna get you know, Nintendo skins added for certain characters,
and we had we'd have the Mario three on three
hoops for the the DS that Square made or Square

(36:10):
made it or publish it. But you know, so it's
Mario has some background basketball and yeah, outside of that,
I don't know who they could really have in there.
Everybody else will kind of be awkward, like, well, you're
gonna have Samus shooting the basketball or uh Link is

(36:34):
going to be slashing at it or whatever. Well, yeah,
we'll see, we'll see. You know, it's not if you
wanted to do a test for it, you could pay
your four dollars for that month of August, if you
don't have switch online and and test out the game
and see if you like it. That's it is online. Uh,

(36:55):
it's a multiplayer online game, so it's good for that. Yeah. Also,
as we have seen already take place with some other
games like The Righty Remastered and I can't remember which
other ones are, like this, Dragon Quest one and two

(37:15):
H HC two DV Maye will not have a switch
to upgrade pass. So you're not going to be able
to buy the switch one version and pay ten bucks
and upgrade to the switch to version. You have to
decide that you want to buy the switch to version
uh and play that or you know, if you buy
the switch one version, just know you're not gonna have

(37:37):
the better graphics if you ever get a switch to
it's just going to play maybe with like some upreads
or something when you play it with the switch to.
But that's that's about it. So just be aware of
that that game's coming out like October or twenty fourth

(37:59):
I think it is. Are both those games. I'm sorry.
So yeah. Also the game key card thing, also, that's
what it's gonna be for the switch To. Nintendo's even
doing a thing with where they've asked at least the
Japanese audience would they think about the game key card
gonna be interesting. I Viintendo actually ever releases those that

(38:21):
information or not. Ah, it would be interesting of if
they ever do that for the US audience, what would
what would they say about the game key cards? Yeah,
definitely not. What do you make of the rumor about
a Dragon Quest seven remake happening? Apparently?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Sure? Have you ever played a ton of Dragon Quest?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah? I have seven on my three D S. I've
played quite a bit of that actually, Okay, but outside
of from eleven and and when I played the three
HDD two D no, I had not before eleven, I
had not played Dragon Quest for the at all.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah. Look a franchise that's like, you know, it's huge
in Japan, but they keep kind of bring it over
in America and it barely makes a dent.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh I'm sorry. I did play eight.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, that was like that was kind of like the
one that, like I remember, that's like the PS two one,
I think.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, that's the first one that's actually called dragon Quest here.
It was all Dragon Warrior before that. Seven is really
kind of ob twose as well. Uh so, and that
game can get kind of hard also really long, right,
So it's gonna be interesting how they remake that they

(39:51):
would have to actually remake it. They can't just a
C two D the thing. Yeah, yeah, right, because it's
almost kind of like speaking in a way, like they
have the the sprite characters, but they have the like
the three kind of ish world behind them, right. So yeah,

(40:12):
I'm gonna be interested to see if that actually happens
and if they're My only issue is that, like, you know,
I get the Square is really trying to do the
quality over quantity thing, but like we don't even have
playable versions of four through six right on Switch or

(40:34):
any you know, any of the modern consoles, So I
don't know, why don't we get to that before? Like,
like I get the Dragon Quest is not foul Fantasy,
but if you know, file Fantasy can have the all
the classics or whatever, can't we do that Dragon Quests

(40:56):
like four through six? And then if you want to
do Introduce seven with a remake, then go for it.
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, it's put on Riding Quest one through six on
one cartridge and the pixel perfect you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
That well, I mean if they've already gone through the
whole deal of a C two Ding one through three,
I mean, uh well, I mean obviously I think they
one and two have to sell well, so that's to happen.
I think as well with if you know, if it's
smell as well as three, then you know you're pretty

(41:30):
good there. But it's just with how long it took
for Tactics to come out, and then that that's all
it is, is like a kind of a spruced up
looking version of the original version.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
After Yeah, they didn't like it's not like I thought
of remake.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well I wasn't expecting that either, but I was expecting,
like you know, in some ways, like a lot of
people think that the graphics have worse, Yeah, you know
the new version, so uh, you know, like for that
thing to be so I wonder how long a development
it actually is for like that's all they kind of
did with it. And then depending on who you read

(42:12):
or whatever, the nine remake is in trouble and don't
know if it's actually still happening or not. And then
you're gonna start another one, and you you like, Dragon
Quest twelve is not in development hell supposedly, so like
I don't know, even one two HD two D got
like delayed silently without anybody saying anything, because that game

(42:35):
was supposed to come out early this year. Those games
were sorry, and they just like magically announced that. It's like, oh,
these are October releases. Yeah, so you know, yeah, just
I get the squares not doing like amazingly hot as
far as like with their sales that they want. But

(42:58):
I don't know, I don't know that we need to
just keep going to that well constantly either.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I think that's that's it for the Nintendo stuff here. Uh,
the subnotica saga continues, uh, more stuff on on this now.
The the three main team leads have are taking Craft

(43:29):
into court over the delaying of the game to twenty
twenty six and you know, firing them because essentially they're
claiming the same thing that we talked about last week,
where they're delaying the game on purpose so that there's
no way they can hit the bonuses needed to get

(43:50):
that two and fifty million dollars payout.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Crafton is saying that they're looking forward to having their
day in court, that you know, these uh, they're doing
everything for the best decision of the game. I forgot
this game supposed to be a game pass as well,
and it's just it's just a weird, like saga. Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I don't know. I tot believe the developers not.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I agree. I could totally see Crafton not want I mean,
who wants to pay that? Let's be let's be real,
and that's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well that and also it's bananas like that that that
the bonus was signed in the first place. And it's
kind of extra crazy to think about because Crafton paid
I think, what's five million dollars five hundred million dollars
for unknown whatever the hell of the studio is called.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh yeah, okay, I know sure about the name of
the studio.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, yeah, in the world. And it's like, yo, like
a decade ago or you know, ten to fifteen years ago,
Sony only paid like ninety three million dollars for uh
not a dog or not a dog insomniac that was it. Yeah,
It's like, which one of these? I mean, you can

(45:16):
you can adjust inflation, but it's still not going to
be four hundred million dollars extra. But which one of
these do you think is the bet? Is the more
fruitful and uh better better investment? You know?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean, but I do kind of believe the
doves and that you know, if they put this game
out in early access, I bet it would do really well.
I bet they could hit whatever the metric is for
them to hit that two hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
So you know, I the metric is, you have to
sell two hundred and forty five million dollars worth worth
of copies of this game.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah, it's it's gotta be a decent it's got to
be a decent but also like believable number for them
to really believe that, because I think if they knew
they weren't going to hit it anyway, I don't.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Think they they just start buying copies of their game
and shipping the watch people and I'll give to them
to people. Yeah, it's like if you got to Saw ten.
You know, if you have to sell one hundred thousand
copies of this game to make the two hundred and
fifty nion dollars bonus, it's like, okay, who wants one?
You know, I'll pay for right nowt of my own
money because invest you know, I'll get that money back

(46:26):
twenty times over or whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Right. It's just this thing that like I wonder how
you know, it's something else going to come out about
this next week too. It's just it sucks because look,
there's one hundred employees here that could really do with
with getting some of that money. This isn't all going
to the three figureheads. This is you know, to go

(46:50):
go to the whole staff, which that's kind of what sucks.
It's like, look, I know that Crafton hasn't necessarily had
the best of times or whatever. They have that the
Clostal Protocol studio that didn't do well in the next
game after that that they did didn't do well either.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That went well. Yeah, like you know, they have a
string of heads. But it's like, what do you they
expect or you.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Know, like yeah, I mean they did they bought the
High five Rush studio, cut them, you know, cut them around.
We'll see if High Fire Rush to ever comes out.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Or or whatever else are going to be making.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, this is just kind of seems
it doesn't look good for Crafton. I mean, I wonder
how they're going to be able to kind of spin this,
uh in report that they supposedly say that they have,
you know, the things that show that basically the figureheads

(47:55):
are kind of like making up numbers here. But yeah
know We'll see how that goes. It's probably going to
be a long way before this is decided at all,
but yeah, not not great. In this whole continuing thing
that continues to happen with developers and losing jobs and

(48:17):
kind of being getting the short end of the stick.
This is like another one of those unfortunately, right we
went onto the Xbox side of things.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Was sorry, yeah, I was gonna say Microsoft, Yeah, I'm on.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
The Microsoft that also keeps doing this to their developers
as well, even though I guess for now there's some
decent news about it, but it feels like kind of
inevitable that it's going to go back to being bad news.
But I guess to to focus on some good news
for now. The Xbox Game Pass games that are coming

(48:54):
for the rest of this month have been revealed. Robocock
Rogue City is part of that. We were just talking
about that the other day. Grinditude comes out at the
like towards the end of the month. We Chung following
Feathers comes out in a couple of days. That's that

(49:14):
like Chinese souls.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Like, yeah, Yin is really excited for that game, and
I'm just like why.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Like they they apparently went during what was the last
big not uh summer game Fest. They were with their
chest out saying that they're gonna give Bloodborne a run
for their money. Supposedly. Yeah, uh, you know, that's that's

(49:45):
how I praise for yourself for you to say that
Descenders Next, which is the sequel to the Descenders game
from the No More Robots team, And that's one of
the people that have always defended game Pass.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
They just shadow drop their game today. Uh so that
is out on game Pass now High on Life, it's
back on game Pass. It feels like game Pass is
now doing this strategy, just like you know with RoboCop,
where it's like, oh, they're about to have their second
game out, so why not put the previous game on

(50:20):
game Pass so that even if the next game is
not on game passed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, it gives incentive for people to play and you go,
you know, I played like the first one, I'll get
the second one I shot.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I think that's actually a good idea for Xbox in
that way, if if you're you know, kind of cutting
back on the bigger games, bring back some games, and
people actually liked like they brought out the Ascent this
month as well. I don't know if The Ascent is
going to have any more content or whatever brought that back,

(50:54):
like why not? Uh, my friend the Neighborhood is Obody out.
That's like a multi player game that's gotten some good
buzz recently. Abiotic Factor is a day one multiplayer game
is also coming to PS plus. Real World is the
next Annapurna thing that you know, you're in that world

(51:18):
where you're all everybody's on a bicycle and kind of
exploring and that kind of thing that I'm kind of
been interested in that since they announced it. So that's
coming July twenty third, and then Wuchong Fallen Feathers comes
out the next day. Grounded is the twenty ninth, and
Fharming Sitter Simulated twenty five, that game that everybody once

(51:40):
it comes out August first. Hey, some good stuff on
game Pass for the tail end of this month here.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So it's really surprising that Pharma Simulator hasn't tried to
do like a deal with like Clarkson's Farm or you know,
because they do dealc with that. You know, do you
look at the like and he's done game such before
with like Fourza and they didn't get like a Grand
Tour game that was terrible. So it's like, yeah, just

(52:09):
you know, make a map of his farm and then
have him do you know, voiceover for it or Caleb
do it as well, and go from there.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah. I'm surprised they haven't, like I agree with with
like something that kind of gets the more. Yeah, I
mean to be fair, like we say that, but then
that game always sells well, right, and you're kind of
going like, who the hell why is this game? You know?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
People, you know, people have like, you know, playing rigs,
you know for like dogfighting sins people have like farming
rigs for farming simulator in their in their basement.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
That's true, you never know, honestly. You could be also xboxes,
uh adding some things to the I like the Insider
program mainly for the PC app. So they're continuing to
do the whole putting things on as I get attacked

(53:12):
by killer Mosquitos here. So we have the mosquitos here
where it's like they don't play no games, man, they
just attack. I can't walk my dog at any point
because they will just attack you. And it's like I'm
sitting here having to literally, you know, smack my neck

(53:36):
or whatever, and you're just I just see blood coming
out in my hand, Like I'm just like, all right, man,
this is not great, you know exactly. But anyway, what
they're adding is essentially like the PC app will now
have to stream your own games thing. Uh. So you know,

(53:56):
any games that you own that are you know, in
that program, you can play them on your PC now. Uh.
That's along with the aggregator thing that they added not
too long ago. And then also the play history will
now go across everything and into the into the PC
app as well. So if you played on your console
or played on cloud or played on the phone, and

(54:19):
then you want to go to your PC, it'll show
all that you know and you can just pick it
up from there. It's just more that integration stuff that
they keep talking about as they get closer and closer
to the handheld coming out, you know, which, Uh we'll
see if that is going to uh sell at all.

(54:42):
Because A suits themselves apparently thanks to a Spanish website Juegels,
they the the prices may have been leaked. Now this
is in Euros so it may not equal out the same,
but but doing the conversion, the Asus rog Xbox ally

(55:06):
is seven hundred dollars, which is way more than anywhere
from seven hundred eight hundred, way more than I think
a lot of people thought. They thought that would be
down to like five hundred, and the Xbox ally X,
the rog Xbox Lax is a thousand fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
You could get like, yeah, a decent not top of
the line or anything. Do you get a decent gaming
laptop for that price? This is I.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Mean you could also get a switch to and a
PlayStation five for that right price.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
So I mean a switch to on a Steam deck, you.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Know, exactly. Yeah, So they definitely are not stub anything here.
It kind of goes with the Xbox Series X and
the Series S increases, right like they jumped the gun
on the whole oh man, the tear offs and inflation thing,
and jacked the prices of the consoles in a climate

(56:17):
where nobody's buying your console and kind of just left
it at well, all right, we're cool with However, many
people have already bought it. I guess if you want
to still have a console, it's there. It's just more
expensive now. They're just not going to lose money on
it anymore. And PlayStation's kind of at that point. In

(56:38):
other regions, you could say they did that with the
PSI Pro, but that's also like an optional version of
the console. You don't have to own that. You can
still play every game on the PS five And yeah,
this is optional too, right, you don't have to have
the handheld. It's very much a if you got the

(56:58):
money and you want to use it to buy this,
then do it. But I don't know, it doesn't like
if I see it in a store, which this is
the whole point of this, right, like you're gonna put
this in the store with the Xbox logo and everything,
and you're gonna I don't know if somebody sees that
sticker pricere and go I don't know about that, you know,

(57:21):
even with the buy now, pay later stuff like a
firm and oh, that's still we're looking at what like
in ninety dollars a month. That's not nothing. So yeah that,
if anything, I think they might just be like, this
is definitely just okay. I know the ACE who's like

(57:44):
normal ones were already expensive but not this expensive. So
but obviously you're getting better graphics and things like that.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Then dedicated Xbox button what worker do you want?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Well, it does have the OS and all that, but
you know, just to have that OS, it's definitely not
worth the thousand dollars right. Speaking of options, you will
no longer have the option to buy movies or TV

(58:18):
shows from the Windows Store on the PC or the
Xbox as that has been removed randomly on July eighteenth.
You still have access to whatever you've bought already on.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
It, but randomly. I mean how you got to wonder
how popular or how profitable was that?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
No, definitely this people are not using this thing, right,
I mean I know that there were people that all
of a sudden, you know, now that this is out
there and this is the Internet, you got people that. Yeah.
I saw someone that says they have like four hundred
different movies and TV shows because they use that thing
to buy, uh, movies and TV shows on it. Cool. Okay,

(59:04):
you still have access to those now, obviously, who knows
how long. I would definitely find a another way to
like download those or something.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
What I'm sure they'll do is it was migrated all
the Amazon or you know.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Movies, Yeah, the movies anywhere. That's how I have any
of my when I did have DVDs and Blu rays
any of the digital codes or whatever. They're all doing
movies anywhere. Yeah, and then they'll show up on my
on my Prime Video whenever I'm on there.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I mean I have like five or six TV show
like like seasons of shows to that thing. But it's
all like you know, Likenrudo season one or yeah, you
know Black Clover season one. So I like to wed
like weird cheap shit. I got like a dollar or
something or that was just like three randomly.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, It's just interesting that, you know, the Xbox one
was all TV TV TV, right and all these years
later year, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Mean it was, but I mean this stuff, this stuff
mainly happened with like the three sixty. Yeah, I remember
like most of the stuff kind of coming, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Know, yeah, because with the three sixty, those were the
especially three sixty. Now that maybe so with the f
s four and Nextbox one, but lesser three extent because
by then you still you had smart TVs. But for
three sixty, man, that was my multimedia box. That was
how I watched Netflix, and I watched all the acts.
Was we No, I didn't, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I think this is kind of you know a vestige
of the three sixty you know lineage or history. But yeah,
one that's not supported any anymore. And like I think
Sony can get away. There's a lot more. I mean,
they still sell TV shows and on Sony, but like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Well they made part of a perk for PS plus
Premium or get the Sony movies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
But also like yeah, Sony makes movies and TV so that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Helps they have their own movie studios, right, I mean, yeah, exactly,
it makes sense on that front, whereas Microsoft you know
doesn't really you know, they allow their license to be
kind of licensied, like with the Minecraft movie and all that,
but they don't they don't like have their own studios.

(01:01:31):
Like so this isn't agree, doesn't make sense, just a
way to kind of like Okay, let's not waste any
more money on this and slowly ended which it was
originally the Zoom Store. We know what happened with that.

(01:01:51):
Zenmax Online. Their devs had not been laid off yet,
according to a post the official like ZS United Blue
Sky account. Uh, it kind of feels more like inevitable
and not that they're not going to eventually be laid off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
It's just yeah, they have to they have to train
their AI to do their jobs and then get laid off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I don't say that that's terrible. I know, I know.
I'm just saying I think it's different when we're talking
about like a mobile game compared to you know, like
a full fledged.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Like it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
No, I know, they don't, but that's the obviously, that's
the They have the whole program that they they unveiled
that that was their whole deal. They want to be
able to make like full on gains with that thing. Yeah,
but you know it's it sucks again like this, this

(01:02:52):
is uh not great to hear. It just seems like
they're kind of like working out the sperence packages and
all the logistical things with the union and then eventually
you will get the actual number of people that are
laid off from the studio and all that stuff eventually,
which whatever, look we talked about it already is especially

(01:03:17):
when you have like, look, now this has not been
officially This is not Microsoft officially saying this. This is
you know, Jazz Court and speculating and insider gaming reporting
and all of that kind of stuff. But it doesn't

(01:03:41):
surprise at all that they would have also bumped this
up and apparently, like the whole green lighting Fallout five
was already kind of done independently of this. It's just
that there are discussions that the reason, one of the
reasons why they was canceled so that they could kind

(01:04:02):
of free up developers to work on Follout five. We
don't even know what studio is working on it. It's
just a beesa game studio has greenlited apparently. I saw,
I think the defining Duke's guys talking about maybe that

(01:04:25):
they're going to make their own studios similar to like
Halo studios, and that their whole thing is going to
be working on followout games. Maybe I could see that, honestly,
just because Fallow is such a big franchise now, especially
if that TV show continues to do big numbers, it
will just obviously increase the priority of that series even

(01:04:51):
more because we've seen we saw what happened last time, right,
that series got big and people just went and bought
the old games. And imagine if they would have had
a new game, right right, So it only like behooves
them to have It's crazy to think. At one point

(01:05:13):
Todd Howard was saying, Nah, there's no way we're getting
other Scroll six first, and then we're working on Fallout five.
But he also did say like by then he probably
wasn't going to work on Fallout five because we're talking
about what twenty thirty by the time we get right
Fallout five. So you know, what do you think, Like one,

(01:05:40):
do you think it's happening? In two? Do you think
that there's a studio that could be doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Like, I think it could happen. I think the problem is,
like I don't think when they have a dedicated studio
just making like one game or dedicated to one franchise
that works out well. Get three four three, I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Think that's that's a little bit different, just because three
four to three kind of like, you know, it's not
like they took a bunch of bungee people and put
them into thirty four to three. That's just like another
studio that they kind of just got put into it, right,
like their studios that make the same game open over

(01:06:24):
every year and it works out fine. I just I
agree with you that you got to be kind of
have tepid reactions on that. But if they have the
right people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I mean, that's a big question. That's a big if though,
like and yeah, but like you know, like we said recently,
like what sane developer or sane person would want to
work from Microsoft at this point, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
It would have to be people that are already there, right, Yeah,
but you and I don't think up Citian would Like
I do think that even if Microsoft went and said
this is green lid, I do think that, like Todd
Howard still has some kind of autonomy to be able
to decide, right, No, I don't want that studio working
on it, or I don't think they would be a

(01:07:13):
good fit or.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You know, got double find to work on it instead.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Like I mean, he has shown that maybe his best
role right now is to just be a supervisor like
within the ena jer uh, and not be like directly
involved because you know, it's not like Starfield was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, him is like creative creative mind or creative guy.
Isn't It's never quite worked for me? Yeah, yeah, I
think him is, like you know, big man in charge
is slightly better. Uh, but I don't know, like I

(01:07:56):
would say though, it's kind of their golden goose. But yeah,
you know, how much are they going to try to
you know, bleed it dry? Uh? Yeah? I still think.
I still think that like older Scroll six will happen first.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Oh no, definitely, I think the older Strouss is still
gonna happen first. That's like further along and right now,
they they they need that to happen just because I
think that they even though they you know, you did
just have the abilition for remaster and all that stuff,
it would be good for them to have that next

(01:08:36):
game out and be able to really get the most
you can of that, and you know where're going for
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Older Scroll six come out, be in every every platform,
so you know, thirty million copies and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Then exactly money you got money to go fund the
next thing or.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Any layoffs for a little while. If you say that,
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Well, I'm just saying you say that, but we don't
know because even though yes, they are a different part
of Virtuos, virtuals got hit with two hundred and seventy
layoffs themselves, and they just even though only ten of
them affected the actual EO Oblivion remaster devs, right, you
know that game didn't make you know, Chump Change is

(01:09:27):
the one of the highest not only highest rated, but
highest selling games of the year now to be fair,
they have studios in other countries and this is mainly
the ones that were affected. The Singapore based studio, you know,
laid off like about seven percent of the the company's
global staff with two hundred people that go across Asia,

(01:09:50):
which that's interesting. Does that affect any of the ones
that we're working on the middle solid Delta remaster or
is that kind of done because that comes out next
month or and then seventy were in Europe, So yeah,
still not great. That's tuning so many people losing their jobs, right,

(01:10:14):
They are giving them like Stubborn's packages and all the
you know, letting them possibly get other positions within the
company and things like that. At least they're not giving
you the stupidest feel that you know, Phil Spencer did
where it's like we're never doing much better, we couldn't

(01:10:34):
have done that. We're doing great now. I hope you
know that. Well, y'all are not out of a job, right,
But still it's just weird. It's weird again that like
virtuals themselves have like a lot of good projects. You
imagine Mitigers saw with three Delta's gonna sell well, and

(01:10:55):
we always saw what Living Remaster did and it's like
that wasn't enough not to lake people up. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I think i'd agree that Delta will sell well, I
think it will sell okay, but you know, could youma
not being involved? Like that's still a very public mess.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Do they have numbers on that Medager solid like collection?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Yeah, well that sold, I mean, but that's still like
just old games, you know that, you know they didn't
do anything with really, so, I mean, I look at
Delta is kind of like the whole new thing or
you know, like imagine seven, the Riemak of seven with
no Na Mura.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah, and it's apparently sold like over a million yeah
now or something around that. But that's what like a
sixty hour package for like you said, a bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Of yeah, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
It's just well, you know, it looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Right, Hey, I like it. I'm interested in that, But
I just don't, you know, I don't think it'll be
like this huge, huge thing. Let's say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
It's not gonna be. It will be for like that
month of August, but I don't. I don't know that
we're going to be talking about at the end of
the year. Is like, oh my god, look at the
impact that that remake had.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
A couple I always just thinking about the couple Will
Metager survived.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
God, But I mean, honestly, I don't think. I don't
know that we thought that like being remaster was going
to be like that huge impact either, and then look
what it did.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I kind of actually I kind of did, because I just,
you know, obliving it's such as a nostalgia thing for
so many people that you know, if you like my
downstairs neighbor played it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Oh really okay, you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Know she's not she's like maybe a few years younger,
but like she loves Skyrim. Okay, yeah, it's like, yeah, okay,
here's basically another game that plays more or less the
same as Skyrim that looks better that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
It came before Skyrim. You can see where they made
the evolution or Yeah, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Was really surprised she she she didn't. I think she
bought it, but like her, she has a Bartner like
boyfriend's gaming laptop and it didn't play it. Well yeah, yeah,
it's not surprising, Like this laptop is also old, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Right, yeah, gotta have at least the pretty good right
that speaking of you mentioned them here the staff that
have been laid off at King of course, you know,
they make candy gross. They are being place by AI.
According to Mobile gamer, Dubi is yep. Essentially many of

(01:14:09):
the Level and Ux designers, plus practically half of the
London based Farm Hero Saga team have also been told
there at risk and since that, they took all of
their you know, the stuff that they use to make
the levels in the game and all that and said, oh,
we're just going to put that into an algorithm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Though, right, yeah, I mean, here's the problem with AI,
or one of the problems. It's like, Okay, now you
don't have any people working at this thing. Uh, creativity
is probably gonna take a nose dive, and then what
supposed to do. Or you know, like if AI is
going to replace all gaming jobs, it's like, okay, now

(01:14:47):
I have a bunch of people that don't have that
can't get employed or it can't get work.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I don't know that they will replace all gaming jobs,
but it will yeah, significant amount for sure, right And
like you said, it's it's gonna be eventually, it's gonna
get to the point where, you know, people are really
gonna have to speak out against it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
And it's kind of like the like George Jetson, you
know the Jetson's he shows us at work one day
to press a button and then all this shit happens
and he just goes he goes home, you know work,
My work is done.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Right, Like I'm here just to make sure that I
didn't wake up and the next day in the game
is just gone to hell or whatever. Like uh, I no,
definitely don't want to get it to that point because
the large part of all the things that we're seeing
about game development is like the creative process is the
best part, right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
And I don't think like all AI is bad in this.
Like speed Tree, for example, is it's not an AI
tool per se, but it's a you know, proceedurely generating
for trees and forests and foliage and shit like that.
Like that's a I wouldn't say necessary, but it's a
beneficial tool. But speech, you ain't making a game or

(01:16:07):
it's not putting out hundreds, if not thousands of people
of you know work either.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Yeah. I mean, look they're already using AI and a
lot of things. Like I know my job and I
don't know five ten years right, More and more every
time I turn around there's somebody wants something done with AI.
Like we even have AI tools that we have to
present to clients in order to perhaps keep them around,

(01:16:37):
because there's a lot more people that are willing to
like other companies that do the same thing that the
company I work for does, even though we're like one
of the biggest ones. There's people that are willing to
offer them better rates because oh, a lot of this
stuff's gonna be able with AI.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
And it's like, oh, and we also are going to
be you know, that way, we don't have to have
that big of a staff of people either, because a
lot of that's gonna be double AI. And literally I'll
leave a message sometimes and you call and it's like
literally AI prompts that walk you through the entire thing
that you're gonna leave the you know, doctor or plumber

(01:17:17):
or whoever to get the message. And I'm just like, wow,
this is scary, Like this could literally take my job,
you know. And uh, you know, I always see it
when I go, like I said, when I go to
Wendy's or McDonald's or whatever. You know, you're talking to
the AI bought and the only reason that the person
gets on which it does help them, right, they don't

(01:17:38):
have to be sitting there in the window wasting their
time being on a microphone talking. Uh. But eventually that's
how it starts. And then event you know, eventually you
get to like McDonald's where you got the robots and
they're actually doing the cooking too, so you know that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
It'd be like the only guy working at McDonald's is
like the service technician, you know exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
It's the only thing they can't get the robot that
he was actually fixed the the thing when it breaks down,
and that's that's only a matter of time too, I
wouldn't imagine. So look, I don't I don't want to
get to that world ever. I feel bad for an
Ayah and all the kids that are coming after us.

(01:18:17):
I mean, you already got the what the way Moo
cars that are you know, replacing uber in some states,
and then you've already got essentially like the way most
shuttles like replacing bus drivers. They're starting that out already.
So yeah, man, it's a lot of jobs gonna start.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, what are people supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Then you know exactly what and you're in the and
then a lot of those people are at the point
where it's like you're too old, Like what are you
gonna do? Like, uh, what what job? Are you going
to go and get it? Get a degree for that
You're then gonna be able to use because you have
no experience in that job. Yeah, you know, it's it sucks,

(01:19:04):
and it sucks with these people of King that are
seeing their their jobs be lost to this, and more
gaming jobs will cortinue to be lost to this. U
In fact, Steam also reports that nearly eight thousand titles
released on Steam now disclosed gen generated AI usage, compared

(01:19:26):
to one thousand a year ago. That's seven percent of
the total Steam library and twenty percent of all games
released so far in twenty twenty five. Now, and then
there's there's this is voluntary, so who knows how many
other games, like you know what happened with the Altars
right where they had like generative scripts right in there

(01:19:49):
that they forgot to like scrub out at the end.
And it's like how many games use things like that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I mean, most of that's helpful, right, it's not really
taking away people's jobs, but.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
You know, I mean I see, yeah, hey, actually useful
as a tempt thing but not in a ship and game.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Yeah, I mean, like it's crazy, like to think about
like when I was going through college, there's there's people
graduating now that legitimately I saw had no shame in
being like, yeah I did on my papers to chat
TPT and I'm like, dude, I would have been kicked
out of out of college if somebody found out I was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, but you're not even like writing the paper just yeah.
It's I mean like if I was a teacher and like,
you know, half the kids in my class had the
same paper pretty much from chat GPD, like okay, well
you all fail because you can't write a paper.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yeah. It's like and I've seen teachers talk about that
like they can't they don't know what to do because
almost the entire class. I'm not saying every single class
and every single student does this. I'm saying that the
examples that I've seen right of teachers saying that almost
everybody in their class used some kind of AI to

(01:21:10):
write the paper that they told them to write, and
so therefore they had to have them do something else
that was even worse, and then the grave was even
worse because they had no way of they didn't know
how to write it because they're so used to writing
everything with which at GPT or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
If you I'll give you a C.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, that's that's the sad thing,
is uh, you know, it's why people don't learn to spell,
because you can just literally put the word in Google
and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Freaking I would admit, I'm I'm bad. I'm pretty bad
about spelling in some grammar, but like I can at
least like write a paper or no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
No, I agree. I mean, look, ever since we had
what was it a spell check, we've we've erroneously gotten
worse at knowing how to spell things because we're automatically
it already tells it. I mean, if you have grammarly
installed automatally, that's the thing where it like will correct
your your stuff for you. So like you don't really
learn where the comma needs to go or whatever because

(01:22:11):
it automatically tells you. That's just that's just convenience, you
know that that's like the least of the issues. I
would say, it's more of just this kind of stuff
is scary and like I said, I've seen it in
my job, I've seen it in other jobs. Uh, you
to get on the phone calling Infinity or Comcast to

(01:22:33):
get an actual person on the phone is oh my god.
It is frustrating sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Oh yeah, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
To go the route almost where I have to say
I'm going to cancel before I have to. I get
somebody on the phone and it's like or or you
have to go through that stupid chat thing and then
tell it that no, I still want to talk to
a person, and then they call you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I had a problem if you want to go Comcast,
I couldn't make pay my bill online. Yeah, and their
suggestions where they're like basically call us and I'm like, oh,
let's go to the office or you know, go to
my local Comcast, right, I always can talk to someone there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
But all right, I don't want to go too much
further off topic here, but I mean, yeah, I would
imagine that by the time we get to the end
of the year, this number here for the generative AI
thing on Steam is going to be way bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Right, and then we'll have, you know, a million different clones.
You know, there's already clones of games already, but a
million other clones of.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I mean, what did we say at that time that
we were all kind of like, well it was me
and Randy that we were like hooked on that supermarket
simulator game, right, and on the PlayStation store they had
the wrong version, like one of those coffee versions on there. Yeah,
and they were making money off people thinking that it
was that same game on the PlayStation.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Store, so you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Yeah. And Nintendo recently, you know, had to do that
thing with where they changed rules in Japan so they
can try to stop getting as many hntai games on
the sore, and Steam did it as well because uh,
the payment processors got involved and said, yo, we don't

(01:24:23):
want to be represented by a store that allows for
people to buy sexually explicit games that are you know,
beyond the pale. We're not talking about Hintie. We're talking
about people that you know, basically like rape games and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
You know, I don't know, I'm kind of the two
minds about that. Like on the surface, it's bad, but
it could be an outlet for that type of desire.
And also like the people that were like Champion in
this ship or like oh we want Detroit becomes human
taking off because it teatures child abuse and it's like yo,

(01:25:07):
you're not abusing the child, like you're trying to stop that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Like so yeah, but then you're sitting there in that
corner of the internet playing all those weird ass games
that essence they do something similar. So it's like I
I wouldn't open my mouth. You know, you're just hating
on this game because of you know, look, I understand
the studio didn't have a great pass and David Kate
doesn't even an't mention that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
It's like, no, you know, teaches challow abuse, and it's like,
I mean, yeah, but no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with that whole. Like, look, I don't
believe in censorship either or whatever. You know, you do
what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
And also like if the person is over eighteen and
they always have a credit card, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Know, look these seaport of the ones I get, I
get Valve, Like you gotta do it right because if
you don't, if all of a sudden, you know, all
these card companies say that we're just not gonna let
you buy anything on Steam, then that affects them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Right, Believe me, I in that Tego war, I think
Steam would still win because if they said, like, oh,
Visa is not allowing us to not allowing you to
buy you know, Hentai Simulator fourteen off off Steam, and

(01:26:31):
Valve is like, okay, we're not going to allow Visa
cards on Steam period. The next day Visa would back
the hell down.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I don't think so, though, because like what would end
up happening is Okay, we're not gonna lie that. But
then it's like keyboard to get pissed at Valve because
now I can't buy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
No agreed, Yeah, because pissed it. It's the same thing
that happens with like carriage fees of cable like direct
TV if they can't you know, they're they're always like,
oh you know fox News or Foxes trying to increase
their profits on us. They always back the hell down.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
But then they end up making the deal. They end
up making the stupid deal they always say, and then
they end up making the deal with the company that
was like you know that. That's my issue is like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I mean I could I could see I could see
Valve going like, we won't promote you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Well they took them off. They took the games off completely.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah, but like that's like that's Valve backing down. I
would have not done that, and I would have said, hey,
we're not going to promote this ship, but if people
still want to find it and buy it, or or
designed like a more serious age gate.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Yeah that too. You could do that. Do the do
the thing with like the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
With like what a porn hub or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Yeah, where you have to do show your ID and yeah,
all that I don't really agree with either, but.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I like this is many years ago, went my bluizer
to concoctact I like email a copy of my ID
in a blizzard, which is like crazy on the face
of it, but like that was the only way I
could get my account back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Yeah. I remember having to do something similar because of
the authenticator thing, right, locking me out and they wouldn't
believe it was me. And I was like, look, I'm
all for you protecting me and everything, but I'm I'm
legitimately me. I'm telling you it's me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, I know the email, I know the password. You
know I can tell you the last twenty things I
bought or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Yeah, exactly, but I know it Just sometimes that happens
really quick. The Chinese room was able to go independent.
Of course, they're the people that make the still Wake City,

(01:29:08):
the independent Room now. I mean they're also working on
Vampire the Mass Garde boodlines too with Paradox right. Uh,
and they don't never come out see if that's coming on.
I don't know if that means they're going to make
it still Wake City two or whatever else they're making,
but hey, good on them. Get out of being tied

(01:29:33):
down to Sumo and Tencent and all that and do
your own thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Well, speaking of making changes, remember when we talked about
like it feels like forever ago now that ubisop is
going to make that subsidiary where they were only gonna
have far Cry, Sass's Creed and the Rainbow six uh
staage franchises. Yeah, it's finally happened, Mark, all these months later,

(01:30:04):
and Tenset has you know, backed them like they said
they would with their money. That was part of the
deal that they had to take those big thity franchise
and put them separate in order to get money from
ten Cent. The thing is that ten Cent and I
don't know how much you know, eve Gimo and the

(01:30:25):
rest of the people had with you know, who's the
board and whoever else and naming the co CEOs. One
of them is the son of Eve Gmo Charlie Gemo. Yep,
of course, a bunch of nepotism cries already with this,

(01:30:47):
and then a thirty five year company veteran in christ
Christoph They're wrong. Who's you know? He used to head
up a Montreal studio and all that. So, uh, I
don't know what do you make of this? Do you do? You? Basically,

(01:31:08):
what do you think happens to the you the half
of Evsoft that doesn't have those three franchises.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
And yeah, the other half of ubisof Withers and Dies.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
I mean, it's not like they took off everything from there.
They did announce that their family assuming new ghost ricon,
which does go to that half of.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
They can't even get spins off the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
And splinter cells technically on that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Yeah, but like yeah, like okay, they took they took basically,
I mean for all intensive purposes to take Assassin's creating
far Cry, which I don't think far Cry is healthy
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Well, Rainbow six sieges like without that, I don't know
if they have anything because that's the thing that's like
continuously giving them money.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
But yeah, yeah, I think they're one actually actual like profitable.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I think the other ones are profitable, but they're not
like Cascal profitable. They're like, okay profitable, right right, like yeah,
track whatever doing okay?

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Well, I mean I would I would never say that's
like live service because you're not like paying for extra.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Ship, the crew whatever you're doing with that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Well whatever, what was that one? Not ex defiant but
because I already died, well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
That other Tom Clancy game, the extraction.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Died to that. I don't know if that's still going around,
damn it. I like the first one division, but they
had a division.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
That's yeah, that's also on that end as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Right well, yeah, like like they're not making any new
Rabbits game or a new ray Man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Well, and then the ray Man, the new ray Man
is on that end as well. Prince of Persia is
also still on this side as well. Whenever that remake.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah, let's a bunch of stuff that's like not coming
out or you know, so like yeah, between the two
of one, one side has Assassin's Creed and far Cry
and like Tom Clancy kind of and the other side
has you know, Rayman and Prince of Persia And say, okay, uh,

(01:33:23):
which is which would you want to be at you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Well, no, definitely you want to be on the side
because Ssas's Creed is like the only thing that they
make right now that like you know for sure it
comes out and it does well. And you know, I
took a hit for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
So yeah, I don't see a new far krag Get
hitting natime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
There's supposedly working on fire across seven. Uh suppose I
just trying to make like big changes to it or whatever,
to try to like mess with the formula.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
It'll be an even stupid stories in the last four
and yeah, like see, I, like I said, I think
that part of we saw, like the not Assassin's Creed
part is done. And then also like you can't can't
sit there with a straight face and say, like, oh, nepotism.
You know. The guy, the guy, the guy was also

(01:34:21):
my last name, is heading up this new division. He
got through in his own merits. You know, he started
in the he started in the mail room and worked
his way up from his bootstraps.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Yeah, that's it's not great. Let's be honest, right, it's
not a great. Look I understand that. It's kind of
he kind of did the like Shane McMahon thing. Oh,
I went and did some stuff. Is any of that
stuff really like notable? Not really?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
I did stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Yeah, Shane Lefflick fifteen years and it's what happened? What
do you do? He started to you know, satellite company
in China kind of and that's about it. Yeah, And
he didn't do anything like in the business or you know,
it's like yeah, like you said, like worthwhile or notable.
So this guy running a taco truck for the last
ten years and then something promoted to co c co CEO. Yeah, division,

(01:35:25):
it's ok. Yeah, I'm sure you really got turned to marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
But you know this is this is all. It was
just a ploy so that you used to stay with
the family, like we all knew that. Look, whether this
winds up being a great investment for Tencent will kind
of We'll have to wait and see, because Shadows doesn't count,

(01:35:49):
I mean towards that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
So it's kind of the same thing as like you know,
Walmart that used to be a family company. But hey,
when it gets to a certain part, the family gets
out of it. They took get the money, don't get
me wrong, but yeah, it's like there hasn't been a
you know Walt I forget the name Walton, Walton's. Yeah,

(01:36:13):
Walton's running that company for the past decade.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Yeah, the daughter's there, She's got the money, but she's
not running right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
They have a CEO and a chairman who are different people.
So yeah, like, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
He did. He likes to have his control. That's how
it is. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
But I mean, I like I look at it as
like the same way that like, I think he did
it better, but like Vincement Mann, you know, rand ww
for quite a while, and he made a lot of
good hits, but at the near the end, it was
flagging behind, right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
And you know that everybody's kind of like up in
the air about whether obviously they're doing great business wise
and obviously having the t k O money and all
that stuff, but you know, if Triple H is really
doing all the things that people are kind of making
it out to be. Here, I don't really watch it
that much anymore, so I can't really comment too much

(01:37:18):
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
But don't don't worry. Once beyond good and evil to
everything will turn right around exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Uh. I wonder with that, is that finally gonna one
way or the other? Here with that, like it's it's
gonna end, You're gonna get canceled. Yeah, I mean he also,
you know, you've also took the time to talk there
with shareholders and he he talked about Star Wars Outlaws,

(01:37:49):
and he kind of blamed Star Wars being in a
bad spot as to why the game didn't sell, and
he did talk about the game having issues as well. Right,
I don't know, it's kind of weird when you know,
you got Battlefront two, like making all this noise right now,

(01:38:10):
and then you know the TV series are still going
on and or season two was well received again and
Whatnot's like sometimes you might just you didn't you had issue?
That game had issues, right, which kind of solid people
on the game?

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
My big question would be how much of the story
beats were Lucas or Disney mandated? And then how much
work did you put into it, because like the game
had technical problems. I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't say
that was it wasn't a factor. But I didn't like
that game as much because I thought the main character

(01:38:50):
sucked ass and the story was terrible. So did you
create this character or did you know Disney create it?
And if you created it, then it's your mess.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Well, I mean obviously you know Disney had to okay
the character.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Right, Yeah, but that's different from Disney, you know, going
like we want this character to be this way, or
you know, really forcing a character into into the game,
which that could have happened, but I don't see that
happening with Jedi Jedi phone order, like people like that guy.

(01:39:29):
So what what what what changed? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
I'd gonna say it. I also, I mean he's kind
of partially right, like Star Wars isn't exactly in a
healthy spot right now, Like you know, yeah you mentioned
and or doing well, but that's it. Like you know,
all the other Star Wars TV shows are either ending
or you know, the Mangalorian's done or got kind of
got this gut abruptly canceled, right, and then the movies

(01:40:05):
are a disaster, and you know every like it's funny.
Me and the ends always argue a lot like which
is a healthier franchise, Star Wars or Star Trek. And
he always says Star Wars and his his his rationale
for Star Wars. It's like, oh, the pen and paper
RPG is so you can you can do so much
with it or it's so creative, like that's not a

(01:40:28):
goddamn metric for a franchise health Like yeah, because the
t t RPG is, you know, you can do so
much with it? Because I always think that Star Wars
is a very creatively small and like limiting and whenever
they try to do.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Something well and then also Disney it's just very limiting
with it, right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Right, I mean they've cranked a lot more Star Wars
than Lucas did, but like, yeah, so much of it
is like in the same narrow eighty year window, and
like the one time they tried to go outside of
it with the Accolyte, and that's what it was, like
no one liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Yeah, well some people did, and they were very kind
of loud about how they were not happy about it
being canceled, But then it was a very very small minority.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
And also like the problem with Star Wars is like
you know, it costs a bunch like Star Trek, at
least it's cheaper, like you know, not spending two million
dollars in a season of shows, like that's like crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
So and then like yeah, I was gonna say, like, yeah,
like I don't agree with them totally, but yeah, I
wouldn't say like I mean, like if they announced it
a new Star Wars game tomorrow, people are just seem
to me like but.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
I mean it's like he says, though, like the version
that's coming to the Switch too is the one that's
been fixed, Like the one that is the best version
of that game. Like imagine if the game would have
been that way from the beginning and it would have
got better press.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
And that's the replaced the main character. Okay, cool, I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Mean with the main character. But like I think you know,
it was a gameplay respect that there was issues with
that game, you know, and like that that causes people
not to want to buy it. You know. Also you know,
not to messal you were promoting your subscription service like crazy.
So people just said, Okay, well, I'll pay that seventeen

(01:42:23):
dollars play this game, and then I'm not going to
buy it because it sucks or not that it sucks,
but it's not worth me spending sixty seventy on it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
H yeah. Or they finish it with a month and
all right, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Need to they don't need to go back to it.
And you know, the last thing on this is that
they did get the Assassae s creen Netflix show greenlit.
It's going to be produced and run by imany nominees
Robert Patino of Best World, The Anarchy and David Weiner.

(01:42:56):
I don't know about the Halo show being a credit,
but the killing also, they they did mention that it's
gonna be like a little bit of everything apparently. So yeah,
what do you mean as as the Assassin's Creed fan
in here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
A A, I don't think it's gonna happen. B If
it does happen, it's gonna be bad, and I'll explain why.
Because Assassin's Creed should be a historical drama. Like an
ideal Assassin's Creed show should be like five years and
have every season be a different game, like have an

(01:43:38):
overarching like present day storyline with Desmond or it's on
to create a new character that's line, but like have
season one be Altai Air, season two be et c O,
season three be you know Connor or one of the
other you know whoever, but have it places take place
in different settings, different locations, and then how like the

(01:44:00):
present day over our teams like let's just kind of
move here and there. But you know, give an episode
should be like eighty five percent in the past during
the animates and only ten or fifty percent in the
present day. Uh, and they won't do that. I mean, yeah, yeah,
I can said the fact that it's taking them like

(01:44:21):
five years to get to get because they announced this
a while ago. It's not like it's like, oh, we
just got on this bandwagon now, and it's like what, like,
you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
I wonder if they just don't want to have anything
to do with the actual games directly, because then you're
gonna have to use kind of like the similar thing
of like what goes on with like The Last of Us, right,
where a lot of people had an issue with season
two have deviated from the games.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Yeah, but also like people like the characters, you know,
people like the characters of some Assassinis screen games, right,
And if you wanted to, you could create like a
whole new thing. But I still think the present day
to pass historical dramas thing should be like lopsided in

(01:45:16):
the Sparkle drama thing. That's the problem with that movie
is it was like way skewed in the other direction
and that's why it was terrible. And I think like
Assassin's Creed, like it could there are they've mentioned there
are other teams and other people doing this crap, so yeah, great,
a whole new character or whole new characters or you know,

(01:45:37):
have like Easter eggs or even occasionally have like I
don't think the people like the amount with some of
the characters from Assassins create on real people, like real actors,
Like I don't think they're gonna get a Christian Bell,
but they could get some other people.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
I don't think it will happen, and if it does,
it'll be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
I hate seeing uh, you know, video game and it
tastes the best.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
I mean, me and games have been choking a lot
about that two Amazon show and how like whatever Phoebe
waller Bridge I think is her name, how they she
basically stole an a million doc from Amazon. Yeah that's true,
and he for it and he was like, yeah, I

(01:46:23):
get it, and I'm just like, what a waste, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
I wonder if we're going to ever see the God
of Warror Amazon show.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
I have more faith in Ronald Moore, let's say that,
than anyone else doing this crap maybe, but like I
think for that one specifically, you'd have to pick like
a specific game and just kind of go for it,
like the old stuff for the new stuff or what
do they do?

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
But I think they definitely need to have a plan
somhear to fallout, like where it's like, Okay, this is
written out for multiple seasons and you're gonna have a
timeline of Okay, we're gonna they We're gonna start with
the Greek and then we eventually go into the Norse
and then whatever other realm they go into with the

(01:47:10):
game there. You know, I still think they're not done
with God of War. I mean maybe cor bolog might
be done with it, but uh, you know they're Yeah,
somebody's gonna keep I mean he did, he said he
handed the reins off the to whoever did a lot
of ragnar Rock, all right, and that's to continue whether

(01:47:32):
it's in it, whether it's Norse or some other There's
been rumors about Egyptian or something else. So it inca think, yeah,
we'll see the freed. It is built for to be
a series if they do it well, and they got
a lot to go on, so you know, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Or do something completely different, like you know, that could
work also like.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Follow I meant like there there's a lot of history there.
You can you know, they can literally make it like
the time travel show of the week. They could have
a holes they can.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
You know. That's the biggest problem with the game right now.
Is completely lost the present day plot line and they yeah,
they kind of keep like stopping and starting that thing.
But like the last you know, Chatters didn't have it
at all, and it's like what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
We'll see if they do any more of it with
with Hexi or whatever. That's the next right, So all right,
the last thing here is the N sixty four Analog
is delayed again. Yep. This time they're blaming the tariffs.
That's the reason why it's been delayed.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
That's a lie.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
It's not gonna be shipping in late August twenty twenty five, supposedly. Yeah,
so do you order this or no?

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
I didn't. I got the last one to do what
the analog do or the termographics one specifically didn't order this.
I don't trust him as a company, like as a
hardware maker. They're great, you know, the pocket was amazing.
The duo is fine. You know I call the other crap.
But this thing has been announced for at least a

(01:49:17):
year I think, and they took pre orders in January.
They don't have a trailer for this thing out, wow,
Like they have like a website and they took a
foodie mock up and this whole like big thing about
like oh, it's gonna be four K.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
And and that's a big part of it, right, it
said it's you can put it to a four K
TV and it's gonna run all those right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Yeah, But they haven't even shown a trailer of this
thing working. And if this thing is due out next
you know, it's supposed to be a due out this month.
They you know, that is gone. It's supposed to be
due out next month. It's like, don't you have one
like in the company somewhere, like yeah, why can't you
just show up this thing actually like working, And they don't,

(01:50:03):
and they haven't. And if they restop, if it comes
out and it's great and they restock it, I'll probably
get one. But I just really hit how Analog does
business and a lot of other people do too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
I imagine that this is not sitting well with anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Yeah, Like I had a friend online asking about this
a few weeks ago, and he's like, was it a dream?
And I'm like, no, but it's a fantasy, like because
they still haven't shown like it wouldn't be hard to
just put, you know, launch a webcam stream like al
switch stream and go, hey, here are twenty games, you know,
Mario and GoldenEye and Mario Kart sixty four. Here here's

(01:50:43):
the thing in action, and it'd be like an hour
long thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Friendough agreed. Yeah, hopefully they get that fixed and it
does come and it works great for the people that
have ordered that, and you know, never.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Want if it does well. Sure, but I just don't
have any faith.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
I don't blame you, like you said. They they have
this track record of not you know, not doing well
with that. So right, all right, anything else you want
to bring up before we head out of here? All right?
So I that'll be it for the show this week.

(01:51:27):
I guess we will end the show the way we
usually always do. We're talking about the games that are
coming out in this week ahead. Here the King is watching,
which is like another one of these indie darlings. Ah, okay,

(01:51:48):
I was interesting, So you got that, Okay, that's not
your kind of game really strategy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Yeah, it looks a tower to things, so as well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
It is tower defense, but you're also kind of like
setting up your you know, there's there's a strategy to it. Yeah.
It's definitely getting like a lot of hype. It is
is one of the ones that like people are really
talking about for like, oh this this might be one
of those sneaky game of the year kind of things

(01:52:21):
of just with all all the stuff it does and whatever.
But yeah, man, Monument Value three comes out for everything
on the twenty second. Wildgate also comes on the twenty
second for Xbox Series, PSI and PC. That's a neat

(01:52:43):
multiplayer game that has been getting some buzzed well. Wheel World,
which I mentioned is on game Pass and it's not
on everything except Switch on the twenty third, Switch twos
and a get w W two K twenty five on
the twenty third, So if you have that's sold really well.
So if you we're waiting for the Switch Too version,
I guess there's that and super Mare Party Jamboree uh

(01:53:08):
jammuer and plus the Jamboree TV thing for Switch to
You also comes out in twenty fourth. I know, Randy's
probably excited about playing that. Yeah, the Wouchang Fallen Feathers
comes out on the twenty fourth that already talked about
it on Game Pass, but also on p S five
and PC. The's No Sleep for Economi date from the

(01:53:29):
AI Somnium File sequel that's on Switch and Switch to
twenty fifth. That's probably gonna be pretty decent. Most of
those visual novel Samnium Foul games are pretty good. And
also there's wild Heartss coming to Switch to, so yeah,

(01:53:49):
and Will Hearts is fine? Yeah, Sadly, just when when
you're going to compare it to Monster Monster Hunter, it's
just not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Yeah, it's fine for two weeks and then like that
or one of the Monstar games came out the great after.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Yeah, and it's like, well, there goes, you know, I
don't I think a lot of people are probably starting
to play Donkey Kong, so there's that too. There's a
rumor that in N tennel switch to Direct that is
going to be happening maybe this upcoming week or maybe
just as long as it's before July. Supposedly they're trying
to get it before like some kind of investor thing

(01:54:25):
so we'll see if it does happen. It would make
sense because we have like no release date for Metro
Prime four beyond, and they don't really have a I don't.
You can't really consider Dragon Drive your big August game.
I'm sorry, Like you gotta have something else, so like
you know, whether it's Metroid or or something else. Like

(01:54:48):
That's why I think they really got to be having
something in July, because they've still got some spots on
the calendar. They got to announce games for we still
don't know when Kirby air Riders is coming, so you
of the sccarai game, so yeah, but yeah, and we'll see.
We'll see what they announced that Pokemon presents as well,
so we'll talk about that next week along with everything else.

(01:55:10):
So all right, until then, everybody, thank you for watching, listening.
We'll see you later later

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