Fallout TV Series Impressions, Dead Space 2 Remake Shelved # 393

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You are listening to Video Games tothe Max. Hello, and welcome to
another edition of Video Games to theMax. I am your host Sean Gmer,
and here with me, as usually, Mistermark Morrison. Got it well,
this is episode three and ninety threeof the show, and we got
plenty to talk about here. Thiswas the week of premieres and showcases and

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then what could have been as wellwith a certain game. We'll get into
that. We'll talk about the followout TV show. Marcus watched the whole
thing. I've only watched a coupleof episodes, so we'll kind of get
into that. But Mark someone thathas more history of the series than I
do, so it'll be interesting tohear his take. We got the talk
about Star Wars Outlaws with that newtrailer dropping, the what could have been

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with Dead Space or even a newDead Space game. The Triple showcase happened
this week too. We'll talk aboutthat and some more things right up to
it. Awright, Well, let'sjust get this out of the way really
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awesome. The relationship broadcasting folks,they do all of the entertainment stuff.
So they will have their own falloutTV show review at some point. I
think that's not necessarily mister Ridler's doingit. It's another one of his team,
so that might come up a comeout a little bit later than just

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like you know, the next week. But they did do the God Deliversus
Cang new movie review that is outthere and you can go check that out.
And we also have an anime showWe'll talk with Cafe. They just
did their winter finales talking about allthe new anime that's out and what the
like what they thought were the bestwinner shows for this year. And then

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they also every after every season theydo like an awards kind of thing where
they give out like you know,best I'm a best Guirrel, best boy,
all that stuff. You can gowatch that on the channel too.
So yeah, definitely allowed to checkout there. We are going to go
ahead and get started. I guessa little bit different talk about an actual

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not interactive part of media here withthe Fallout Amazon series, which interestingly has
already been renewed for a second seasonbefore the first one even dropped. And
that's also because they got a reallynice chunk of change that they're getting for
moving the whole shooting of it andeverything to California. So that's cool news

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that everybody gets to watch it.We'll know that we're at least hitting a
second season. Beyond that, obviouslythey gotta see what happens here. But
Mark, I mean, you're theone that has a lot more familiarity with
the series than I do. I'veplayed like parts of New Vegas and three
and four here and then what usuallyhappens to me with Western RPGs happens where

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I stopped playing and then I don'tcome back. But I've seen a lot
of people say that it's making themwant to play the you know, play
games in the series. And ofcourse it helps that it. You know
a lot of these games are ongame Pass and all that stuff, so
they're available for people very easily,or you can go, you know,
find them in a sale. Yeah, they already cares well, but I'm

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just saying there's people that just theydon't they're not going to go and try
to find them. I'm sure they'veprobably had them on sales. Also to
follow seventy six is free right nowtoo for this week if you get it
off Amazon Prime. Uh So alot of people getting into that. They
they're fall seventy six has like theirhighest player count in a long time as

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well, thanks to the series.What do you what do you think about
it? I thought it was mostlya good a great show up until like
the last two episodes or they kindof bungle it with the continuity. I
won't spoil it today, Expequence,you've seen it, but they they they
like the you know, BA testedclaims are not reconting it but they basically

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delete Fallout one and two and NewVegas from like the timeline, which is
really weird. That's interesting that they'regonna drop Like I understand, okay,
fall Out one and two. Theytechnically that was by a different studio,
you know, well so New Vegas, right, but like New Vegas at
least Obsidian is with the same team, Like you know, technically the Test

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and Upsidian could decide to come together. Did you another fall Out New Vegas
that they wanted? Well, yeah, they're all in by Microsoft now,
but so yeah, I won't cutinto why what what, like that whole
Hornet's nest, but I'll just sayI didn't like it, and I think,
like I'm trying to think of likewhat's inn like what's another like long

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running like RPG series that has continuitybetween them. I mean, you can't
say like Fine Fantasy because they're alldifferent or right, I mean maybe yea,
almost all series have some kind ofthey're not continuing, right, Yeah,
so yeah, I guess it's tiredfor me to like Tales would probably

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be the the big one, right, not Tales Trails. The Trail series
that's all continuous, right, andthey have even branching storylines off of that,
and uh, it's it's a hugeweave of stories if you try to
play it all. I'm not.I guess another good example would be sweaking
in like that actual chronology. Uhand the one of the games kind of

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screws it up. It's still there. Uh So yeah, for them to
like delete to like three of thethree games out of the six or whatever,
seven or whatever, it seems reallyweird. Aside from that, though,
the first time episodes were like reallygreat. Uh. I liked uh
La Pernell I think that's her name. Yeah. Uh, she's like really

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good. Yeah, she was greatat the ball Dweller. Yeah, Lucy.
Uh. I don't really know herlive acting and stuff that well,
I don't watch Yellow Jackets. Iknow her from like Structured Prodigy, where
she voiced like someone fairly different,but you can still kind of hear it,
like hear her voice of Tad theMaximus guy. He's okay, he

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gets better. He seems a littlegoofy in the first like two episodes or
like a little directionless, but hedoes have an nice arc and the ghoul
is good. You know, Waltonfantastic as a goal Like, yeah,
just in the parts that I've watched, like anytime he's on screen, I

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want to keep watching. And he'sright, he has a really Actually,
they actually do a lot more withhim in the past, like in the
pre nuke stuff than I thought theywould because, you know, the first
time, so it opens with likehim at a kid's birthday party, like
kind of slumming it. I wouldsay, as like the like the cowboy
clown or cowboy. Yeah, andthen within ten minutes, so California is

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nuked and you know that's it.But they go back to him quite a
bit in later episodes, like whathe was doing before, which is pretty
interesting. Uh, there's a whatdid you think of the U I've heard
I've seen a lot of mixed talkabout the the Brotherhood stuff, like how

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much the way they're involved and ah, so you've seen the first three episodes,
right, they do kind of Thereis a big question of who Maximus
has, like a friend Dane.Ah, it was like the more like
she's she's the one who gets likethe job first that she gets injured and

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everyone thinks it's Maximus who did it, or he might know who did it.
They could do solve that by theend of the show, which is
good. Ah, the Brotherhood stuffis always kind of a little weird because
the the the institution is of goofyor you know, just the idea of
it. Like, but I thinkthey I think the armor looks really good,

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Like yeah, yeah, you cansome of it's a little c g
I, which is fine, butyou can tell that's a pretty practical looking
suit or you know, a practicalprop for at least most of it.
So good on them for that.Uh. I think the world, like
the setting or like, you know, the whole you know, it looks
great the show, yeah, withit following the like because it follows basically

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like three different stories, you know, yeah there's yeah, well they also
introduced a fourth later on. Butyeah it's Lucy, the Maximus, the
brothers brother, the Steel guy,and then the Vault guy or the ghoul.
Sorry they introduced they go back tothe vault, uh sooner, Like
they started going back to the vaultpretty soon with Lucy's brother. There's like

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a mystery there as well, whichis not defined that well. Yeah,
I think that first episode does areally good job of like setting everything for
people that aren't familiar a lot withthe series, like you kind of get
the idea, and I mean it'svery much like intro to Fallout World or

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you know, uh, the one. I mean, Lucy is like a
very fresh faced character. Like that'skind of the whole point is she's very
exactly I mean, because it's supposedto kind of be like the same way
you as the player character, aren'tfamiliar with this world until you step out
in it. So yeah, theone thing you'll see this I think in
the episode six as well. Iwon't spoil that one, but the one

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funny thing about Lucy's character is sheis an incredibly sexually frustrated yeah, Like
it's hilarious. And the fact thatthey actually like talk, Like there's a
conversation in the first episode with herand her cousin. Yes, her cousin
like wants to marry her, andshe's like, no, we played we
mets wrong. We were we werelike teenagers, but now we have to

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repopulate the vault, so you can'tdo that, and it's like what,
Yeah, like like playing around withyour cousin is not great for her.
Populating like it has it has adecent amount of humor, a little some
of it's a little like it's notin your face about it, Like it's
not you know, it's not frontand center, but it's kind of like
more in the periphery. But it'sstill funny, like the uh, I

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forget the character's name, but theshop owner in the second episode, Yeah,
characters funny. Yeah, she tellsher to like get out. I
told you to get out of herelike three times, and then see what
happens. Yeah, having the scientistscharacter from and you know he's the guy
from uh well, Michael Emerson.Yes, yeah, it was hilarious to

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me because I don't think you watchedit, but he was in a show
called Person Interest. Yes I did. I love that, Okay, him
and the dog and then you know, just like yes, you can't get
away from dog, can't you.Yeah. He don't even show like two
episodes, so right. Yeah,the way that they deal with that,

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that's interesting. Well, that likea lot of that place. It feels
very much like the parts I've playedof Fallout, Like you get a lot
of that. The humor is verylike you could tell Todd Howard really had
a lot. I don't know howmuch exactly he had to do with it,
but he seems very happy with it, and it seems like there is

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a lot they they made sure topay omas to it. It's not like,
you know, I'm sure that thereare probably people that are like,
oh, they messed this up orthey didn't do this right or whatever.
But from like what Walton Goggins said, you know, he's like, if
we made this all for the fans, they wouldn't be anywhere near as good,
right. I just I somewhat disagreewith that, because they make they

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make choices later on that are likereally pissing off the fans. So it's
a weird. It's really weird whatthey did. Like we can talk about
it later on next week, probablybecause you'll probably finish the show by then,
but yeah, they just make somereally awkward choices that does kind of

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diminish the show by the end.It starts off, starts off great,
and then by the end you're like, wait, what just happened? Yeah,
that'd be interesting. I see alot of I mean, it's it's
always very easy for everyone to keeppraise at the beginning, right, and
then like if I was gonna reviewreview it, like I'd see like the

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first episodes, I'd give like nineor ten. It's like I think they
were actually like all really good episodesix and seven. It's only eightisode show
episode six and seven. I'd say, like we're like sevens. Yeah,
and then the last episode is likea five or a four just because of
like what it did to like thecontinuity or you know, just like not

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even that, but just like itraises a lot of like weird questions the
show can't can't like answer, likeyou can tell you can tell the show
it's made by the West World guysor you know, the team behind that,
because they I think the part ofit is that they had to.
There's a they didn't having a fewmysteries, uh like sitting up a few

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mysteries, that's fine, but likethey set up so much stuff that they
can't answer, and they won't likethey won't even bother to try to answer
because like they didn't think of itlike logically through, so that'll be an
issue. But why would you saythat they can't answer, because like I

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said, they don't. They don'tthey didn't think through about like what's what's
the problem or like how can wesolve this? But it's like said something,
Well, they have they just havelike a line or like have a
situation but they won't solve it,or they you know, and trying to
really tats are on this like afew issues. That's the problem, right,

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I understand. I mean I personallydon't mind, but since the show
is so fresh, I don't wantto spoil it for people that, right,
you know, let's just say,yeah, let's just say, like
the main the main bad guy inthe show is really weirdly written, or
like her situation does not make anysense at all. Okay, I'm guessing

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you're talking about the the one thatappears at the beginning. Yeah, she's
one who breaks in the vault thirtytwo. Yeah right, okay. Also,
I love you know, I justbecause it's being such a big Twins
Twin peaks having him be the dada. Yeah, it's fantastic. I wish

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I had more him. Yeah,like he agree. Well, I mean
that's the whole point of getting herto go outside, so that kind of
makes sense. Like, yeah,but we have a nice like a flashbacker,
like they never flash back to himat all, or like him like
raising her and her brother, orI mean he he has like five or
six lines in the first episode andhe comes back in the last episode and

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that's it. Yeah. So Imean, I mean, like, I
mean, at least for three youplay enough of that, because it's the
whole damn intro where like Liam Neesonis her dad and he actually, you
know, you spend a little timewith him before you get ejected out.
But this doesn't really have that atall. You know, it's just like

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the party scene and that's about it. Yeah, I think, you know,
it's that's part of it's the pressureof kind of you want to make
sure you keep things onwhat moving toget people hooked and then yeah, but
also I would say it's also kindof a fatal flaw because like she's like,
well, her big question is signingher dad, and he's such like
a non factor in the first episode. It'd be like, Okay, I

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get you know, yeah, sure, but I really do like the world
design, Like I think the Vaultwas really good. Anything about the show,
like production wise, it was reallygreat, and the cast is all
good and everything, but it's justthe writing, especially later on, that's
just kind of wonky. Do youfeel like there's like, let's say,

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somebody hasn't played this series at allright, and they watched this show and
they go, oh, man,I really want to play these Now is
there one that you say, whatis this based off the most? I'd
say Fallot three because it's a wholefinding your dad thing. Yeah, that's
whole crux. The uh it kindof follows follows the same basic plot as

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well, you know, getting gettingthe first town, having stuff happen or
you know, and then getting companionsalong the way. Uh. Yeah.
I think that Michael Emerson or MichaelEmerson's was a ted weird because it seemed
like he was working for the Enclavebut he also had a pit boy.
It's like what, yes, whywould he have this? Or you know,

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like I love the way that theylike they communicated the thing at the
beginning with where she's doing the themarriage proposal to deal and they all just
like basically do the equivalent of textingher back with the boys or whatever.
It's like, that's good, that'sa good reference. Yeah. Her interview
at the start was pretty funny whenshe was like technical skills in her parents

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and it's like, yep, whydon't you just say your special stat is
like I'm highly intelligent, I haveeight points in that or something, yeah,
and then go, no, Iwas gonna say that on the whole.
I think the show is good,but just like the last few episodes
really like a bitter taste in mymouth. But I think, like you

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watching it or like a non fan, okay, kind of like breeze byst
them, you know, right exactly, we're not gonna get that whole Like
I mean, I guess like youwould with any everything that guy told you.
It's like there's probably a lot ofreferences that I'm not getting that I'm
sure you did. There are probablyreferences I don't I'm not getting because I'm

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not like obsessed with the show,with the franchise or anything. But I
can there are stuff I can pointout, like the cartoon in the first
episode they're watching it, like Iremember picking up picking up that crap,
or like certain like uh stuff inlike the house or you know, just
you know, certain environmental stuff Ican pick up probably better than you can,

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or better than some people. ButI'm gonna say that you breeze past
me, right. The one Ithink that happens in episode maybe episode five?
Uh, do you know who MattBarry is? Yes, he pops
up in it. He's real good, awesome, Okay, I definitely gonna

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make sure I get to then.Yeah, I'm sure that whenever, because
Randy's watching it with his wife andshe's i think even a bigger fallout fan
than he is. So like,I'm sure when they're watching it, there's
gonna be a lot of great stuffthat they catch, you know, But
I'm glad that these kind of thingsexist and that this is good, right,

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like they could have it could havebeen bad and then we're talking about
another Oh man, a bad videogame adaptation. Whatever. It's great that
this is great. People are enjoyingit. It's already got a second season,
so you can already know watching itthat they're going to continue this.
It's not something you're gonna just watchand then it's over. And it kind

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of led into obviously speculation about,well, Todd, what about your other
big series that people enjoy? Whatabout that? Uh? He says that
he's apparently been approached several times aboutElder Scrolls, and he said, no,
I worry. Do you think that'smore has to do with like people

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going to compare with the Game ofThrones or do you think it's like what
do you think his reasoning for sayingno would be, I think a problem
with Elders with Elder Scrolls, honestly, is it so generic that like what
can you do? Like there's notlike a huge story involved with it,
so it would just be create likejust creating stuffs like kind of whole cloth.
And I don't think if you comparedto Game of Thrones, because Game

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of Thrones had like defined characters andrelationship, right, well, I just
mean, like, okay, it'sanother fantasy, you know. I mean
I think if they did like anElder Scrolls TV show, I'd probably more
magic in it, or a lotmore you know, right, that type
of stuff, because Game of Thronescertainly didn't like that. But considering like

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we've had the Witcher show already,We've had Game of Thrones already, like
you know, the Dungeons and Dragonsmovie, Like, we've had a lot
of that. So like Fallout issp Fallout feels so much different than things,
right, it feels like something wedon't see a lot. Yeah,
we had West World, it's madeby some of the same people, but
it feels unique as whereas like you'resaying, Eldest Girls would feel like,

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hey, here's another fantasy thing.Yeah. I mean the closest thing you
probably compare a Fallout to is likeThe Silo. Ah, yeah, that's
but that's a gay drama show oryou know, much more grounded in like
reality than Fallout, because Fallout isintentionally kind of going It's not campy,

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but it's kind of going for morelike irreverent take on stuff. It was
a great character in I think it'sepisode eight or seven that is YenS because
it's it's a guy obsessed with autoquality in the in the fucking you know,
post apocalypse. Yeah, I getthat. I could definitely see that.

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Yeah, Like it doesn't matter theworld basically ended. I still care
about my damn audio. Yeah,it's like, oh you can't get you
can't get Oh you want the originalpressings because they had the right aombie you
know, they had the right mids, highs and bass, And I'm just
like, wow, Okay, SoI mean I'll certainly watch season two when

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it comes out in a year ortwo or whatever. But right, uh,
yeah, I just think like thewriting did kind of let it down
by the end, but I'm thewhole still recommendable, you know. Yeah,
for sure, and yeah, Ithink episode six, I want to
say it's episode six is when likeLucy and Maximus actually do have like much

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more like they get together and theyhave much more of like a friendship,
and that actually really helps crown thecharacters as well, because you get a
lot more of his I want tosay, motivation, but like a lot
more his as a as a character, because I have the problem in the
first few episodes just he doesn't seemhe's pretty passive as a character, and
it's like once he actually gets involved, it's when he gets better. Yeah.

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I do love the scene when theyneed the passing of the Brotherhood suit.
Yeah, which one when he whenthe first Titus gets not gets out
of it or yeah the first oneOkay, yeah, yeah that was well,
and then it plays off the wholelike why did they do the whole

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sort of why he joined the Brotherhoodand everything, what happened to him,
And then that moment I'm just like, there's no way because you can feel
that like, man, he betternot do what I think he's gonna do.
And then he actually does the opposite, and I was like, Okay,
yes, totally down with this,and then I love the like him
playing around in it and stuff likethat. It's like, yeah, it
feels like something totally anybody would doif they get get in that the first

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time. So I think it's alsothe show is also kind of interesting because
it cast a lot of comedians inlike main role or not main roles,
but gets roles. Like I thinkit makes sense for the world though,
because there's, like you said,there's a lot of humor that well yeah,
but they're not like playing at They'renot playing comedic characters, right,

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But it's much more like the BillBurr situation in The Mandalorian, like casting
a comedic actor but having him todo like a dramatic role or semi dramatic
role. You know. Yeah,for sure, I liked it well enough.
Uh. You know, once youtalk about it next week, maybe
we can get into more nitty grittypart of it or yeah, definitely give

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people the time to well what doyou think about Uh? I know we've
talked about this a few when othershows have come on, but a lot
of talk about why Amazon did theopposite of what they normally do when they
have a big series where they makeit normally they make them episodic and this
one they just dropped it all together, and a lot of people were saying

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that this kind of ruins the wholekeeping the show and the zeitgeist kind of
thing. I don't know, Idon't I don't care. I think the
show kind of worked almost like youknow, it's like a well, like
a six hour or seven hour movie, you know, like and it's not
like I also don't think they showcliffhanger as well, or it's not like

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episode every episode doesn't end like somehuge cliffhanger, so you're not like waiting,
dying to see the next week oranything. So I think the way
it did it was perfectly fine.Also, I don't care. I mean,
even if the show comes out weekly, I would probably still rather just
you know, wait till it's alldone and then just watch it all won't
go anyway. So yeah, that'swhat I saw too, is well,

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it's like how many people are goingto watch it? I mean, episodically
when it's something that's not necessarily likewhen you're trying to get people to really
watch the show, and how manypeople are going to drop off and then
be like, oh, I'll justwatch it when it's all out yeah,
Like, how many shows do youcurrently watch weekly anyway? Me just like

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a few. You know, Idon't watch any I mean unless it's like
the only show that I actually regularlywatch would be like Star Trek, Change
Exchange in the World, and Prodigy, Doctor Who, and that's you know
when that's on, right, it'sabout it how for me when that comes
back? Yeah, but as someonewho just like you know, Marathon the

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first season of Power Rangers has alot a lot more fun for me to
just watch twenty episodes in a row. Then, Oh no, definitely,
I think, but I understand people'sthought process of like TV shows have always
kind of been this way of ifyou really want them to kind of like
be talked about or have that whenthe show is airing kind of thing.

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Like it was weird to me almostDisney did it with the the new X
Men series because it's, uh,it's animated, Like I would have thought
they would have just dropped that allat once. Uh, But I can
kind of see that in a wayof just oh, when the new episodes
comes out or the two new episodescome out, people talk about it.
You know, they did they didthat with that What If show? Yeah,

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what if show? I don't know, you can make a point for
both, but also any know,these things aren't on TV anymore, so
who cares? Yeah, most peopleare not actually watching them live on TV
either're watching them on whatever streamer later, right you know? So uh that's
kind of I think what's her TVthe most is you don't have the big

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outside of the absolutely huge ones thatstill exist, Like I think, like
you know, House of Dragon anda few others that have the water cooler
moments, you don't really have thatanymore. With TV shows. It just
becomes like, oh, what doyou watch? Oh? Okay, I
watched this? Oh, and youfind you might find one or two shows
that you both watch. I meanit's a problem also, too many options,

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And then you know, yeah thattoo. The landscape is so splintered
now you can literally never get outof the niche of shows that you like
because there's the next one for you. It's always funny to me to look
up old shows us to like thatwere canceled to do like low ratings.
It's like, oh, this showon my gout eight million viewers. That's
why I was canceled because of lowratings. And it's like if the show

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got that now, it would belike the number one or number two show,
right. Yeah. So it's likeyou look at the the the ratings
for for WW right now, I'mlike, yeah, man, that would
have been nothing back then when everybodywas watching it. But now it's like
they got to be happy with thatbecause they know more people are watching on

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they're watching YouTube highlights, so they'rewatching the shorter version on Hulu or whatever
later, like you know, Soit is what it is. That's that's
how TV is. But it's goodwhen you have these uh these ones based
on video games that are good andand that's what I'm excited about is hopefully
we'll have more between the movies andthe shows, uh and not necessarily the

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bad stuff that we used to have. Uh respect those video game meditations because
they're probably going to be the nextthing until we you know, run out
of the ones that people make.A can't Marvel and DC anymore. So
yeah, yeah, I mean it'sgonna really be interesting what happens with Wolverine
and Deadpool if that can even jumpstart uh that, because you know,

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they're talking about X Men and allthat stuff, and I'm just like,
something's gotta keep them afloat until then. I think Deadpool and Wolverine will be
actually a pretty big hit. Butthe problem is that'll probably be the end
of it. I mean, thenthey make a dead Pool four, you
know, right, if they can, if they can get but I mean
like getting people interested in the MCUin general again, Oh well, I

(31:03):
think that's that's a problem. Islike the MCU has exhausted all their big
characters or you know, the bigproperty. So it's like, yeah,
we're getting a fucking uh uh ohmister is it mister Wonderful or I forget
the character's name, wonder Man,that's it a Wonderman TV show and an
Echo TV show, And it's like, what the fuck is you know?

(31:26):
Who the fuck cares? Like?Right, I mean, we are getting
some bigger ones, but now wehave to wait. They're not all coming
bam bam bam. Like you're gettingthe Fantastic four again, you know you're
this one. You'll get the XMen eventually if if the ones that are
in process now do decently enough.It's just like, I wonder how much

(31:47):
what is a win for them nowthat a billion is not a success,
right, Like, what is isit five hundred million? Is it two
hundred million? Like what is considereda success for them now is what I'm
wondering. Uh, yeah, becausethat second is they got too high on
Avengers level money exactly. Yeah,and you know, Man three sucked,

(32:12):
but it maybe turn to profit likea very small one, but like you
know, Miss Marvel too, orthe Marbles was certainly Yeah, Like the
only one that got even close wasGuardians three, right, right, and
then everything else paled in comparison.So it's definitely going to be interesting to
see what happens with like what istheir new eals? You know that that

(32:35):
kind of bomb to an extent.Yeah, but they had other movies after
that, like I'm just talking aboutin this recent string of stuff that has
really fallen off a clift. Yeah, and even the TV shows don't seem
to have the same interest at all. You know. It's yeah, so
we shall see what's going on withthis. We'll we'll talk about this more

(32:57):
next week. I will probably tryto make considered every to finish watching the
series and we can get into somenitty gritty stuff or whatever there and and
give people more of an option toOkay, we're gonna get into the spoilers.
So if you haven't watched it bythe second week that it's out,
that's kind of on you at thatpoint. But yeah, let's move on

(33:17):
here to talking about another movie franchisethat is also they've gotten a million of
gazillion games, but especially this year, it feels like everything Star Wars just
getting remastered or something else. Butyou showed off the story trailer for Star
Wars Outlaws. Yeah, what didyou? It's about like three minutes.

(33:45):
What did you think of what theyshowed here? Anything impressing you on that?
Ah? Two things jumped out atme. One was about halfway through
it really looked like an Assassin's Creedgame for a second when you're like doing
parkour around like some city. Ah, I was like, is this person
gonna climb up with the wall?Like? It looked really almost I almost

(34:07):
thought that was gonna happen. Andyeah, the second thing, and I
know you don't particularly want to talkabout this, and I'm pretty tired of
it it already as well, butwhat the fuck is up with the main
character? I mean, I don'tto me, it depends on the lighting

(34:27):
and what picture you grab, andI'm not I don't particularly care about like
overall attracting miss for you know,who you're playing as like that much.
But she looks like a stereotypical likelesbian trucker from the eighties, And it's
like, yeah, I mean,who do they need to like, I'm

(34:49):
not like, I don't know aboutI mean, the model this is based
off of this doesn't look something likethat. So that's the thing that like,
that's what's like making me crazy.Is like the actress her name is
like something weird, right, Ohwhat is it? Yeah, Humberly Gonzales.
She's incredibly attractive, like right right, you know, And so to

(35:15):
get this fairly beautiful woman to voicethe character and presumably mocap and basic you
know, base it off her.Yeah, and she taking like you know,
not eight nine ten women depending onwhat you think you know, you're
on and turning into her too.But I mean, again, like I
don't know how this works. I'mnot going to pretend to know how this

(35:37):
stuff works. About is it onlylike they can base it off her,
but it's not supposed to look exactlylike her? Does that involve more money
if it's based exactly off of her? Uh, it's not like if okay,
but if that's the case, she'snot like to be a big actress,
you know, right, But like, yeah, I just I think

(36:01):
about the Cellar Blade thing. Youknow, they got the beautiful Korean actor,
Korean model, right, but shedoesn't look exactly like her either.
They they did the anime face withNo, that's that's what I'm That's what
I was gonna say, is youhad a beautiful woman and then they are
more beautiful beautiful and they are extremelyugly. Yea to me, it's just

(36:22):
it's different cultures and what they're tryingto sell the game for. We don't
know if Disney had a hand inthat as well, right, Like,
remember this is not just Soft decidingthis. This is a big ass corporation
that also decides every minutia moment ofwhat goes into this game and what.
Yeah, but then but then youknow, look at the Fall Letter games,

(36:45):
you know, the Star Wars,Like, yeah, like it's it's
a it's a it's I I agreeto that extent, right, Like they
made the guys look more like theguys and the girl and the women don't
look necessarily like the women do themodels? Yeah, you can point that

(37:07):
out. You could definitely point outStar Wars Jedi. They the well,
the main female actress looks exactly likehow if she looks in real life?
Right, But I think it's justI don't know if it's the studio.
I don't know, if it's Disneydecided they don't want her to be like
the next face of Star Wars,or I don't know what the decision comes

(37:30):
down to to exactly how they decideto animate. I know the devs have
talked about that it's not easy todo these one to one things for everyone,
right, also tends to cut cornerssometimes with that kind of thing.
Everyone is fine, but the maincharacter is Yeah, I just think it's

(37:53):
like it's extremely off putting. Idon't think most you know, I don't
think that like most guys want,you know, they don't they don't need
like a Laura Croft or like thesexiest character ever. But someone somewhatally pleasing
is nice. Like I mean,I particularly like, Okay, if we're

(38:16):
if we're going to get into this, I think it just to me,
it depends on what we're talking abouthere, right, because I think the
Stellar Blade thing has been absolutely blownout of proportion. It is absolutely ridiculous.
It's gotten into levels that go beyondjust the video game, to the
point where we're only talking about whatthe the fake pixel uh female character looks

(38:40):
like and not the actual game.And that's my problem is that, look,
developers and and whoever makes these decisions, whether it's for Star Wars,
whether it's sell Blade, whether it'suh FO fans and Rebird, whether it's
whatever insert character, whether they're youthink they're ugly or not, it's all

(39:02):
in the eye of the beholder,don't I don't know why X is it
DEI I don't know. I don'treally want to get into that. I've
avoided talking about that the entire time. Yeah, i'd say this is a
game that it just makes it reallystand out to me. But I mean

(39:22):
it's also with the setting of thecharacter, like it does it does it
would it help? Maybe some folkswill buy it or not buy it because
of that, But it's like,I think a lot of people just aren't
going to care it's Star Wars.That that's position. Actually the opposite is
he doesn't care because it'll be soft, right. But I mean, like

(39:42):
the fact that what was just youknow, if you're watching on video.
I just played the trailer and andthe stuff they've shown of the game looks
interesting, Like I'm interested because it'sdifferent. It's not you're not playing a
Jedi, you're not playing other You'replaying different. You're playing like a Han
Solo type character in this game.And it's I don't know. To me,
it is cooler than just focusing onwhether you think the female character that

(40:07):
you're playing as is hot or not. Right, you know, I don't
Yeah, just go well, no, they didn't cast you know, Carrot
Top or the equivalent of him innineteen seventy as Han Solo. They cast
a very all American boy, right, But I mean that's different. You're

(40:30):
trying to start the entire Star Warsand this is a movie, like you're
I think it's different when you're watchingsomething, right, you're watching it.
It needs to be aesthetically pleasing.There needs to be somebody that's hot,
needs to get somebody that's in thedoor. Right, it happens with everything.
Like I'm just saying like, yeah, but I don't want to I

(40:53):
don't think most people are going towant to play a game. And it's
nothing against her at all, theydon't want to play a game. We
look, we play as the asthe Amy Scenarios character from The Mandalorian for
twenty or forty hours, you know, and I'll get Amy Scenarios is actually
attractive. But they have to reallyuglier up for the Mandalorian intend you know,

(41:15):
because he's you know, living ona fucking you know, in the
desert for you know, forty orfifty years. Yeah, I don't think
it's I think it's a weird it'sa weird trailer. Uh, you know,
we can move off it. Thegame will fivey okay, but I
ain't gonnapply. The problem is apied just come and go like a lot

(41:35):
of crack these days, like let'llcome out, it'll be it'll be talked
about for a week maybe and thenyeah, thank gone. You know,
I don't know. I mean,I want to see how much of the
Ubisoft stuff is going to be inthat game, right, We haven't that
yet. That's the other thing.The pricing around is fucking ridiculous, right,
Yes, they well it's seventy dollarsfor the standard as you would expect

(42:00):
that. They have two different editions. One of them has the Season Pass
with the DLC and all that stuff, and then you get the early access
and then there's another one that's onehundred and twenty dollars that you get more
of it. Yeah, you getmore stuff plus the three days early access,

(42:21):
and it is what what games areyou know today? Uh, you
don't have to buy it, like, yeah, speak with your wallet if
you don't like the fact that yoube self charged one hundred and twenty dollars
for that stuff that's in the Ultimateeditions, you get their wallet, don't
buy it, right, Yeah?Is it outrageous? Yes? I agree?

(42:43):
Oh, I think it's funny.The Ultimate Edition is one hundred and
thirty bucks USD. Yeah, andin candidate's two hundred and if you did
if you did the you know,the currency difference it actually so it'll would
only be about one. So theyeven over a charge there as well.
Wow. Yeah that's yeah. ButI don't know, I think it just

(43:09):
kind of depends for me on likewhat else is coming out around that time,
Like if there's like if we getto August and like around that time,
there's like nothing else I'm interested inenough to really think about it.
Again. My my other issue isthat it's a story based game. Uh.

(43:30):
And it's also you be Soft andhow quickly is that thing going to
be at fifty dollars dollars? Youknow? And that's it's it almost makes
me want to do the same thingI did for Prince of Persia where it's
like, oh, I'll just subscribeto you be Soft plus for a month.
I mean, that's the thing isthere. I'm pimping that thing because
you can spend one hundred and thirtybucks in Ultimate Dation or you know,

(43:53):
rent or buy me Soft Plus fora month and get the Ultimate Dation with
that. It's like, yeah,and you still at the three days early
thing, which is hilarious to me. Like it's like, I guess you're
hoping to God that the person willjust forget and stay subscribed for another couple
of months before they figure out thatthey still subscribed. I don't know what

(44:17):
they're doing, because I mean,other than that, like you're I got
the Ultimate Edition for essentially eighteen bucks, and then I can go and and
get the standard edition and I stillsaved a lot of money, right,
you know, So it's it's aman, I get what they're doing,

(44:37):
but it's like I don't think itworks like that where if you're it's I
think it's nice because the way thatXbox does it is kind of shitty if
you're a longtime game Pass subscriber,right, But with us it's kind of
weird because they probably know that there'snot people that are just subscribing to you

(44:59):
Soft Plus all the time, solike it's a way to get you in
the door, and then they're hopingthat you'll like some other Ubisoft stuff and
stay subscribed. And I don't know, it's better in the way that you
don't feel like, oh, peoplethat paid one hundred and twenty dollars get
the three days early. But I'ma game Pass subscriber and I have to

(45:21):
wait, and I've been subscribed togame Pass for all this time, So
I kind of get people's feelings onit both ways. But you know that's
the thing, if you're going tooffer me that, I think, now,
I get a lot of people thataren't into uh, you know what,
they're not watching paying attention to thegaming stuff all the time. I'm
probably not even gonna know this,right. How much are they going to

(45:45):
promote that in any kind of adsand stuff that they show of the game,
Like, I see this all.I see that ad all the time
now when I watch something on YouTube. But like, I wonder, if
you watch this on with your regularshows and stuff, how much gubusoft plus
is going to show up in thead And you're gonna get a lot more
people subscribing through ubisaw Plus you finishthe game, and maybe they don't even

(46:07):
buy the actual game at all,So you've got that issue as well.
This is not like a multiplayer gamethe deeple are going to continue to play
constantly. This is a game thatthey're gonna just probably play and that's it.
It's over. So until they comeout with the DLC with you know,
who knows how long that's gonna take. Is one of them gonna be

(46:29):
out before the end of the year, or are they both coming out in
twenty twenty five. We'll see.But yeah, uh, it's a cool
three minute trailer. Good to knowthat we know what's gonna gonna happen in
the story. I'm intrigued by it. The one I don't even think she

(46:49):
was in a trailer. But theone funny thing I did see was that
I forget the character's name, butEmilia Clark's character from Solo was supposed to
be in it, and your nameis Kira, yes, and they're like,
but she's not coming back to voicethe character, and I'm just thinking,
yeah, no, shit, youdon't need to say that, like
surprise, yeah, like not surprisedthere, but all right, Uh,

(47:16):
speaking of showing more new games here, we had the Triple I Showcase,
which is essentially like just kind ofputting a bunch of like the I guess
more known indie devs together and saying, here's the showcase for those games.

(47:37):
What did you think about it?Like, I guess the way they did
it, and in the games thatgot announced and said about twenty five or
thirty games, maybe maybe a littleless. I would say it's pretty split
half and half between either city buildinggames or dual joy seccooters. Yep,
there's a lot of Roague Roadue gamesas well. In class by that in

(48:00):
the Jewel Choice e Scuter part,you know, honestly, like, yeah,
that that Hades knockoff really singles.I thought, uh, well,
there were actually a few Hades knockoffs. The one that was kind of interesting
was the thirty three Immortals or whatthe fuck was called Yes, that's the
one that. Yeah, they've shownit off a few times, it's going

(48:22):
to be on game Pass. Yeah. Uh but I was okay, but
I started kind of get bored justbecause it's like, you're showing thirty games.
Twenty five of these games are prettyinterchangeable, I would say a lot
of sequels. Also, the gamesI didn't play in the first play,
you know, they didn't really likesome of it. They didn't introduce that

(48:44):
well uh yeah, it was itwas a different time in games at that
point. It was just kind ofhard to like part. You know,
they shout off. I think thatlike at least three or four city building
games all on like a kind ofa row. Yes, that seemed I
was like, what what, LikeI kind of got lost when I remember.
I remember one was like the Falloutone where you're building city like you're

(49:10):
building a city like in the postapocalypse or whatever. And then when it
was like that weird Dinosaur Lord onewhich played it straight for the halfway and
then like oh no, yeah thatone I liked though. That was kind
of cool the way that they kindof played that up, where oh,
okay, this is gonna be astrategy defense game whatever, and then oh
he because of freaking dinosaur and it'sall right, yeah, but that Mountain

(49:37):
one Born and ship I thought,uh, there were at least like two
or three kind of cutesy looking onesthat you know, did nothing for me
personally, and it's like, wow, okay, yeah, I mean you
kind of hit the It kind ofhit the This is what's kind of big
in Indie at the moment, youknow, the survival yeah kind of game

(50:01):
at the moment. Yeah, thattoo, right, because a lot of
this stuff is a lot of thisstuff is really steam only, like coming.
There are some some of the stuff, but yeah, most of it
was like yep. Probably the biggestone is Slay the Spire to you getting

(50:22):
announced, which yes, definitely stillthere for that. I love to Slay
the Spire one one of my favoritegames of the year came out. Still
been still playing here and there.The fact that we're getting a second one,
yes, very very excited, notcoming until next year. I don't
care take your time with it.I just wanted to be great. We

(50:44):
got an interesting that we're getting aNever Alone two sequel. Uh. I
was kind of a surprise that Okay, they have more to say with this
game. I was more surprised,honestly. I mean it's been in development
by for a while, but we'regetting another uh Prince of Persian game.

(51:05):
Yeah, the rguelike, which Ipersonally think it looks a lot worse than
the one that came out just afew months ago. I mean it's it's
made by an indie. I thinkwe should uh you know, I kind
of understand that. But it's notlike THEYLE. I think it's different.
It's you know, it looks likeit's supposed to kind of look like Dead

(51:27):
Cells. It's made by a littlesome folks from that team. So yeah,
but Dead Cell looks a lot better. Like I got. I thought
it looks looks really just kind ofnot defined well or look like like an
Alpha almost or like never, likewe don't know how far how far in
development these some of these games arethat things seemed a little more further along

(51:51):
some of the some of this stufflike it's coming out this year. Yeah
it doesn't have backgrounds or like youknow, like what happened. Yeah,
I mean I still was interested init, and the one thing that kind
of interested me the most. Imean I think I've seen before. Is
that mouse scam? Yeah, theone based on the Mickey Mouse. It's

(52:12):
kind of has like a look,yeah, that one's always intriguing me every
time I see it. I agree, But yeah, I know there's some
There was some some good ones,Like they showed more hyper Light Breaker,
which I'm excited for that too,even though you know I got the layed.
I'm excited for a few other ones. I think they well, the

(52:35):
most part, they did a goodjob of like breaking up some of the
more known stuff and kind of blendingit in between and not just showing you
a bunch of the big stuff atthe beginning and then just oh, here's
a bunch of stuff you probably don'tcare about. But I do agree,
Like showing me three city builders orsurvival games all after another is kind of
like this is all kind of meshingtogether. So yeah, even it's like,

(53:04):
yeah, I love how they hadin the middle, they're like,
oh, we promised, it's onlylike a couple more Roguelikes or whatever.
Another one that I've I've actually beenexcited about, and I was wondering what
the heck was going on with itwas a flint locked The Siege of Dawn
Uh, that one looked kind ofinteresting. It looks knockoffs. No,
flint Lock is the one that lookslike it's based on an Egyptian Okay,

(53:29):
uh like Sirius. It had theguy composing on the piano. Oh yeah,
yeah, he shows him like sayingI want to have bosses that are
different in the record. Yeah.I probably should have wrote some of the
games down that interested me, butit was. I thought it was overwhelming
extent, especially like once after thecity building games and the roguelike stuff,

(53:54):
like, yeah, I can't keeptracking this anymore. Yeah, I like
nobody's complaining about Sheia not going toXbox. It is going to switch And
that was a good game from lastyear as well. But yeah, and
more Brick of Rain two stuff,you know, more Vamp Vampire Survivors getting

(54:14):
Simon Belmont. That was OK.The other one was a lot more funny.
Well what is it, uh,the Contra game, the Contra,
Yeah, the Contra with Vampire Survivors. Yeah, getting the Cansylvania stuff.
I'm sorry, I got to confusegetting Castlevania and the Vampire Star is getting

(54:35):
Contra and I was like, wait, and then it's coming soon too,
Like may. But who's gonna getg d R Kamy franchise, right,
Yeah, I mean I'll give Konamicredit. Man, at least they're using
their I P for stuff. Yeah, too bad. They're not doing anything
with it or anything good with it. That's the problem. I mean,

(54:58):
my problem with that Contra game wasthat it was expensive. Not necessarily that
you know that game. Yeah,My problem with Contra is there is still
using like a thirty year old framework, like, yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that's an issue. Butall right, I think we kind of

(55:21):
covered it. I'm sure you canlet us know if you have any favorites
there in the comments or whatnot.But those are are kind of like the
big things, aside from one morethat we don't really know what's going on
because Eya kind of put the kobashon it really fast. So it's all

(55:43):
like insider talk of did this reallyhappen? Did it not? A story
came out Jeff Grub talking on aGiant Bomb cast that they were working at
at some point in planning stages orwas it ever going to come to light?
We don't know. But dead Spaceto remake or a new Dead Space

(56:05):
game was in the planning stages,somebody was thinking about it, if somebody
was talking about it, and theykilled it basically because Dead Space one didn't
sell well enough. It sold twomillion copies, but it wasn't good enough
for EA and they decided to goin a different direction. So yeah,
and now they've moved some of thatstudio over to doing Battlefield, which probably

(56:29):
makes Eeple more upset because we knowwhere Battlefield has been for so many years.
Uh, it kind of sucks thatdeaes phase two. Is a lot
of people love Dead Space two morethan the first one, and then that's
the one that's not getting the remakeright, and it just yeah, man,
I don't know. I feel likewe can't compare what Resident Evil games

(56:51):
do to other horror games, likeThata's place as a franchise. We know
what it is, but it's youcan't compare it to some of these other
ones. It's not along right nowin French. I mean, it's not
like a huge It didn't start thegenre. Let's say no, it didn't.
And then also it's like all thegames came out and one console generation
and then they were they didn't doanything with them for another whole consert generation,

(57:13):
so people forgot about them, right, and you're you're going based up,
whereas like Resident Eval has been keptup with through the times. And
then when you're doing a remake ofthose, people are excited. And then
also the remakes were done very wellright, well except for the maybe three
you know, debate that or whatever, but for the most part they've all
been beloved. And then Death Spaceremake was done really well too. It's

(57:38):
just it also came out in atime where there was stuff that came out
like right after it that kind ofmade it to where you're not gonna it's
not like Dead Space one remake cameout and had a bunch of time to
breathe. Yeah, I think itcame out right after that other game there,
the sci fi Boxing one or thehorror game. Yeah, that bomb

(57:59):
horribly well that killed the CARLISTO protocol. Yeah, that's that's what I meant.
Yeah, it was like weird confusionin the marketplacement extent because it's kind
of looks similar, but it wasone of those like January you know,
late January releases. Yeah, andit's also like when you're when you're looking

(58:20):
at just everything that's going to comeout in a year and you know that
it's Eya and that thing is goingto go on a sale at some but
it didn't. Yeah, it's stilllike kind of expensive. Or well there
was that period where it was likeby By Mistake went on sale for like
seven bucks or whatever to right,but yeah, it's like forty it's forty

(58:43):
three bucks right now. Uh yeah, maybe it hits like thirty. I
might consider it. We'll see.I know it's a shame, but I
like you said, or you know, I don't think Dead Space has like
the name Cachet, like the franchiseCachet, and it's like the last Dead
Spase three. Let the sour caasea lot of people's mouth. Yeah,

(59:05):
I mean I think people also lookedat it and probably said, Okay,
if there's a horror game i'm buying, I'm gonna buy Resnu before remake.
I'll just buy that later. Yeahright, Yeah. I think horror games
also like one or two are gonnabe popular, but most of them it's
kind of you know, come andgo or yeah, I mean, you

(59:25):
you had stuff come out around then, you have Hardworts. Legacy was gonna
come out pretty soon at that pointtoo. People were probably saving up money
for that, regardless of what thethe talk was online at the time.
A high five Rush had taken alot of the did the Zeitgeist because of

(59:46):
its shadow dropping and it came outlike a couple of days before that.
Then you had the negative for spokenstuff too, So it's like, I
don't know. I think it's amixture of a lot of things. And
Ea, I wish YEA wouldn't havejust said, Okay, well this didn't
do well, we're just not goingto do it. It sucks. It
sucks to see what they could havedone with a new one of those or

(01:00:08):
whatever. Yeah, yeah, believeme, I think people have been more
excited for Dead Space two or likemaybe a dead Space four then yeah,
another battlefield game exactly. It's different. I know we're getting a lot of
horror games, but there's a lotof horror Like look at a Loan in
the Dark. It came out,no one cares. It wasn't good.

(01:00:30):
When you have a good one ofthose people talk about it, you know
it wasn't. It wasn't as badas I thought it was going to be,
but yeah, I was still middling. Yeah, it was kind of
like, Okay, it's there,right, and and like you have to
be when you have so many goodoptions to great options of horror games.
Now you can't just be like,oh, we're going to be a good

(01:00:51):
one of those, you know,and deaes Space two was exceptional, Death
Space remake was exceptional, and unfortunatelyResident before came out, and eight as
Long because it is although exceptional,and you know, it happens, right
and then again like you lose outto the high selling game of the entire
year in Harvard's legacy, I mean, you can't really do much about that

(01:01:15):
either. So yeah, I thinkit's just EA is But I get if
we're not the ones paying for thegame, we're not the ones doing the
production for the game, so itis their decision at the end of the
day. But it just sucks.It sucks to see. Speaking of sucky
decisions, EA play is also goingto go up in price from I don't
know how this is going to affectgame Pass. They haven't announced that.

(01:01:37):
If it is going to make gamePass go higher, I doubt it.
There's probably some kind of thing inthere where you know, they're still getting
something out of that. I don'tknow. If Microsoft just gives them more
money or whatever. But it's goingup from four ninety nine US dollars to
five ninety nine a month, sojust a dollar. And then it's going
up for the pro subscription, it'sgoing up two dollars from fourteen seen to

(01:02:00):
sixteen. Yeah, it's the It'sactually hasn't changed in price since they brought
it out, so this is notlike a recent thing. So this is
not that bad really, but you'renot really getting anything different than what you
were getting. But if you likethat stuff and you're a big you play
a lot of Ya's games, it'sgreat for like the trials. It's great

(01:02:22):
for that kind of thing. Ifyou're if it's an EA game and you're
kind of not sold on it,pick up that trial, man. Yeah,
it's that's good for that. Ohwow, I didn't realize what tire
was. We're gonna have to likekind of the en So Microsoft made a

(01:02:42):
deal with Netty's so that the Plazzuregames has come back to China, and
also Microsoft might have a deal withtheir own games as well the release there
or so get some of Nettie's Toget some of Nettie's games, game Pass
maybe not sure how that's gonna work, but that's great. We know how
much Blizzard makes would make a lotof money from their games being playable in

(01:03:07):
China. This is probably gonna helpthat. I think it is one of
the things that I think they saidthey were going to make a big deal
about once they got the rights tohaving Blizzard, and they were able to
make good on that. So goodfor Microsoft in that respect, Yeah,
I guess. And this kind ofties into the whole Star Wars Outlaws price

(01:03:28):
thing and all that too. TheSaber Interactive it's former Embrace or COO but
now works at works with Sabers sincethey split, is saying that he thinks
that part of this, with allthe layoffs and everything, that we're going
to see fewer seventy dollars games.We're gonna see fewer big budget games.

(01:03:51):
We're not going to have them constantlycome out like we've had this year and
last year we had a lot ofthem. They're going to start typering off.
We're going to see a lot moredouble a uh, and the indies
be kind of the standard. Uh. Do you think that we need to
be getting be getting prepared for that? Like the Sony will still be doing
their thing. You still get youryou know, Fall Fanta seven, Part

(01:04:15):
three and that kind of thing.I don't think so, at least not
when it comes to you know,embrace for stuff. Yeah, I mean
brace for stuff is different obviously,but I think they're saying, like,
by and large, you think peopleare going to lower that quality because they
need to cut costs, right becauseof all the stuff that's happening, Or
we're gonna have enough Triple A whereit doesn't matter. Like I mean,

(01:04:36):
I think we'll have enough Triple A, you know, like we just need
one or two to hit a hita year. We already got one of
those this year. So yeah,I do think that also, Like when
you look at the dead space thingto tie that into, it's just it's
the economy, man, Yeah,that's that's gonna dictate more than anything.

(01:04:57):
Uh, these seventy dollars games,these big budget games, these putting out
a seventy dollars game and then quicklyhaving to put it down to fifty or
forty because people just don't have themoney to you might just like I was
listening to a podcast today and like, if you really think about it,
even in the US, right,we're not. And this is not even
counting other countries where it's even moresupposed to buy a game. If you're

(01:05:19):
buying the one seventy dollars game amonth, that's well like over one thousand
dollars, yeah, or close tothat. That's a lot for a lot
of people, right, right,So then you try to get them to
buy two of those, or aseventy dollars one and a forty dollars one,
they might pick the forty dollars one. Like this is why hell Divers

(01:05:40):
too, not too much of beingfun and being something you can do with
your friends and you can play constantly, right, which all those things help.
It's forty dollars, and people canjust say, oh, hey,
have you played hell Divers too yet, Oh dude, play with me,
you know, or hey, youknow, get my girlfriend to play or
whatever. And it's only forty bucks, right, And it's harder to sell

(01:06:01):
somebody on a seventy dollars game wheneverybody's got to buy the seventy dollars game,
you know. And like that's wherethe call of duty's and all those
are gonna and the sports games aregonna reap the profits because they're gonna buy
those all the time anyway, andthat's not gonna change, you know.
So I do think he's right ina certain extent. We're either gonna see

(01:06:23):
those Triple A games not come outright or you're you're gonna see people just
decide, Okay, we're gonna haveto start cutting corners that it's not gonna
look as great. We might havemore games that look like Rise of the
ronin and you're gonna have to kindof deal with that, even though you
have consoles that can maybe make themlook better, especially PC's that make it
look a lot better. But unfortunately, would you rather have the game or

(01:06:46):
just not have the game because itdoesn't look like amazingly freaking next gen whatever
you think that is. Yeah,so we just have to keep that in
perspective. I guess as time goeson, both of us haven't really been
playing anything like of note honestly thatwe need to like dive deep into.
Yeah, I'm about more and moreabout Rival Schools next week. Yeah,

(01:07:10):
I've been playing the Crisis Core remaster. No one. Thing I was going
to bring up is just kind ofjust happened. As you've been podcasting.
But I guess to developer, possibilityspace just went under. Yeah, I
saw that. I saw some tweetswhile we were talking. Again, another

(01:07:32):
studio will be in No that it'sreally weird how they went. This went
under because the fonders accusing some ofsome of his own people of leaking to
the press about their game. Andyeah, because the was it Katak who
had like an interview with one ofthem or something. Yeah, so we
can probably talk about more about nextweek about how that's false and yeah,

(01:07:56):
whatever nonsense he was trying to.Yeah, yeah, but really quick before
we get out of here, justjust talk about some games here next Thursday.
So I'll talk about it when wedo the show next week. It
might be one of the big thingsfor next week the last delt for pomp

(01:08:18):
fans sixteen Rising Tide comes out.I'll probably try to see if I can
complete it by it before we getto the doing the episode. So I'm
sure many of you are that thatare actually happy about Pomps sixteen. I
know that's the game to make funof for a lot of people. I'm

(01:08:41):
not excited for it to be backin the site geist again because I'm sure
that's going to be all over theconversation. Also, make sure go check
out if you like artsy games,you like stop motion stuff like that,
go check out Harold hal of itwhen it comes out on on the sixteenth.
That's on Game Pass. So yeah, it looks like it's gonna really
cool, So definitely go check thatout. If you haven't played Grounded yet,

(01:09:04):
go play that on your PS fiveand all that stuff that's coming out
as well, and yeah, we'lltalk about more of that stuff next week.
Also, No, Rest of theWicked also coming, so that's what's
coming out on that Thursday, andall people are excited about that. Scott's
like, how there the Presco sposualgame exactly. They they got the exposure

(01:09:27):
to get mad and also came in, thank you so much for telling us
that you enjoyed the podcast. Iappreciate that. We'll gotta pick up my
kid from school. I hope youall enjoyed the podcast. Go like subscribe
all that stuff and we'll see yall later. But hi,

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