Grand Theft Auto VI Hype Levels, Can Nintendo Really Brick Consoles? # 442

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.
I am your host, Sean Garmer. Here with me as
usual mister Mark Morrison ADI and well we've got plenty
to talk about on this episode as far as gaming goes.
More clear up skills finishing thirty three, Mark restarted it.

(00:35):
I guess I'm officially ahead of him, but well we'll
talk about that Mark soon. Playing some Bolottra as well
as is usual. Big news dropped right after we did
the podcast. The next day, Grand Theft Auto six new
trailer after they announced that it was delayed. We'll talk

(00:55):
about that. Any kind of hype levels after that was shown.
Talk about some a new studio from PlayStation although it's
a studio we already knew about. They just has a
name now, Xbox finally being free of the FTC. Maybe

(01:15):
chance there's a chance. It looks like Stellar Blade is
officially coming to PC on June eleventh, and more stuff,
even Destiny doing a thing with Star Wars. We'll get
into all that stuff and more. All right, so just
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(03:27):
let's go ahead and get into it. Let's talk about
the games we are playing. I haven't played anything but
clear obscure, so we can pause that for a second.
Where are you on Volatro now that you've.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I found it, picked it up ps plus you
know it's good. Uh. I beat it once out of
like by like at least seventy five maybe one hundred runs.
Uh and just like a basic kind of run too. Ah.
So yeah, I'm sure there's a plenty of guy or
you know, wikis about how do the want like better
jokers or like grat that, But I like it. You know,

(04:03):
it's enjoyable enough I think some run, you know, you
just can't get some run like you are like impossible
to win, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, it's you know that game has rang definitely that
it's like, right, at some point you're gonna lose. Like
I want to know if there is anybody that wanted
on their first try it as like I'm done, you.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Know, right, So yeah I was. I mean I was
pretty obsessed with it for like two or three days,
and then I finally beat it, and now it's like, well,
now I can play it, but it's not like and
I'm sure and I'm one hundred percent no, there's more
crack to a lot with different decks or different boss
you know whatever. But I'm happy to real ones and
then I'll go back to Expedition thirty three.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean, any like, do you feel like it's definitely
an amazing game or whatever you know, deserve the after
now you beat.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
It or yes? And no, I think the gameplay is good,
but like when in points for you know, graphics or
sound or you know a lot of that stuff. And
like I said, I don't think it's like too randomized.
It's a problem that like binding device, it kind of
has and that Zelda Roguel, like I liked, Like it's

(05:17):
funny because this in binding Isaacs has this like seed
system where it's like, oh, if you put in this
you know, letter combination, you can unlock like this great seed,
but we have to have unlocked that stuff in the
first place. Like if the seed has a joker that
you don't have, then you're kind of screwed out, you know. Yeah,

(05:39):
I mean I can see why it's addictive or I
can see why you know, yeah, it's very you know,
it's run run after run. But now that I'm kind
of beat it at least like a very basic level,
I'm I'm okay with it now, like it's an obsession anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
All right, that's fair enough. I mean, hey, you got
hooked on it, like a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I said everybody like once then
I was all right, I'm good now, Like we'll get
into Expedition thirty three in a minute. The other thing
I did, it's not it's quasi game related. I bought
I found with the ends and went back to this
fucking store to one hundred miles away the only Musha

(06:21):
Soul Katana controller.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh that's what that was. I thought you had actually
bought the the sword or something is yeah, okay, okay,
so but it's a sword, but it's a controller.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah. So it comes in pieces like you kind of
attached the sword on top, and like the manual specifically says,
don't play this game with this thing attached, because it's
not really like attached. It's just kind of pre decorative use.
But like the controls are all on like the sword handle.

(06:54):
So you get two analog sticks, a dpad, and then
all the face buttons and all the sholder buttons. It's
wireless and it has motion controls, which is crazy to
think about for a PS two game or you know,
a controller. Ah, it's basically like an analog to the
did you ever see your play or own the Resident

(07:15):
Evil Chainsaw controller?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean I used to have one, YenS, it's
kind of the same thing as that. But yeah, this
seems four hundred dollars. Dang, and I wasn't complete, thankfully,
very thankful it came in the box. It's missing this.
The controller is supposed to have this like plastic stand.
You kind of set it on.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I don't know if that's Keith or whoever that is
doing it saying hello from out or haven.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
But hello, it's missing the stand, but it thankfully has
the dongle. If you didn't have the dongle, I'd be
completely screwed because you can't get that thing anymore. And
it's like a very one off thing or you know
it's a good look.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Did you get to use it?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Hell no? And here's the funny thing. I can't even
find a copy of only Musha three. Like I've gone
to five game stores maybe six, like, and it ain't
a rare game. It's only twenty five bucks. You know,
it's on like a complete version, but I cannot find it.
I have a Japanese copy, I think somewhere right, but

(08:25):
I even asked to do. I called up one game
store and as a game this game is that he checked.
He's like no, and he was like it's one of
those like uncommon common games where like it's not super rare,
but just not a lot of the stores have it.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Or yeah, it's not something that there was a lot
of copies where people took the stores and people will
still have them. Right, Yeah, it's it a crazy expensive
moneybay or.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
No twenty five bucks twenty bucks. But I'm one of
those guys who like see you know, to throw the hunt.
So I'm gonna search around for it forever until you know,
disreplay by me eventually has it. All right, I want
a game. The game's invention of going six months when
it opens.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
We got we gotta have you know, I don't know
who can do, but we got to have a video
of you using the sword, playing on, playing on.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Ok It's gonna be like the Star Wars kid or something.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
But it's it's a cool item, but it's not practical,
just like the controller, you know, I like it.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Hey, it's it's a cool collector's at them, you know,
That's that's what you go and and get those things for.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So right, yeah, up on Expedition thirty three.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Okay, so you were like almost I think at the
point of like you had passed me last week and
then you restarted.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
We kind of we kind of we were like a
little mech and neck, but I think like, yeah, I
was like further than you like one day, and that
kind of stopped playing for like three or four days,
and then right you're you messaged me and you're like, oh,
I'm an act too, and I'm like, yo, I'm I'm
going to restart.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know, the expecting you to tell me I'm an
Act three already, you.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Know, right. Uh So the reason I restarted was all
the videos and articles came out about Mal's Medallum weapon,
how like game breaking. Uh And I wanted that ship
because I find combat in the game kind of hard,
like not no vert way, but like I'm pretty bad
about timing certain things. Yeah I'm offense, I do okay,

(10:26):
but it's more like you know, defending, like I I
counter like of the time, maybe forty if I'm lucky,
Like I'm not great with that. I frequently forget to
like dodge and then or I really forget to jump
a lot of the time, so that screws me up some.
Uh So, yeah, I want to Madalla. I just started

(10:48):
the game because I think my initial pick was I
got the the dude weapon. I figured his name Gusta
or yeah, uh and that wasn't great, So I really started,
and then I've continually been I cannot find a way
to disable it completely, but I've been continually disabling or
deleting the update that it wants to inflict upon me

(11:09):
that you know, nerves everything.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I really don't think. I mean, I don't know. I
haven't looked to see how bad it supposed he nerves it.
But I really don't think that their whole thing has
been wanting you to come up with your own ways
to mess up the system. Right. They have a picto
that you get eventually that makes it to where you
can go over the nine. Yeah, so like you know

(11:33):
they want you to do that, so I but I
just think it's, like, I get their point. The whole
point isn't to build you up to the point where
you're one shotting the final boss of the entire game.
So I kind of get why they need to nerve that.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why not I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I see a lot of people that were kind of like,
oh man, this kind of ruined it for me. And
the problem is you can't go backwards.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, you don't have to use it. I mean, if
you don't want to do that, I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
A okay, But I'm saying the people that didn't know
that it was going to do that for them once it.
It doesn't do the thing like a lot of RPG's
do where you get a save at the final Boss
because of the auto save, there is no auto save
before the final Boss. It just auto saves to the
new game plus or whatever automatically. So unless you happen
to like really fast, go go to the previous save

(12:24):
or something, which I figured out that you have to
hit the other button, not the star button, but the
other button on your controller that will allow you to
go back into like your three previous saves. I've had
to use that a couple of times already.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
See that's what I was going to try to do.
Is you mentioned that last time? And I was like, well,
I hope I have a sack. I have, like se
I like seven or eight previous auto save. Yeah. So
I started going through back and like three of them,
at least three or four of them were back in
the Getral village, but none of them were before the
arena fight. So I'm like, okay, well I can't go back.

(12:59):
So yeah, that's why I have to restart this thing now.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, you're not the I've seen a few, quite a
few people have a problem with the uh the combat.
It's taken me a bit to get used to it.
There's still enemies that's like, okay, I'm gonna have to
kind of like train myself basically do this like three
or four times, five times, uh, and beat this one
enemy so I can get because some of these optional bosses,

(13:25):
they're not that hard if you can actually like parry
or use them. It's just doing that consistently and not
getting whacked at the wrong time. I just had one,
So I'm in the there's I'm an act too still,
but there's a section where you have to defeat these

(13:45):
two they call it the axons in order to get
the thing that you need in order to uh, you know,
progress that allows you to you know, I guess get
to Act three. I don't want to spoil anything because
there's a big, huge moment in the story that happens
like before you go to there. So like in that

(14:07):
area before you get to there, there's a there's a
special section like one of those optional areas, you know,
and they have a boss there that's like he's not
that hard, but the problem is he has some attacks
where it's like if you don't block it at the
right time, he's gonna basically knock out like to your characters.
And then it's like you have that one character left

(14:30):
and you got to decide do I like revive one
of the characters do I just try to go for
it and see if I can make it. So there's
a lot of options. Then obviously you can do the
thing where you you like, let the other two party
members show up at the end, if you you just
completely die, which sometimes it works out sometimes doesn't because
if you don't have It's like, I love the strategy

(14:53):
in the game of like sometimes do I just go
with the three best party members? Or do I let
one of them be in the result her party in
case they all get knocked out? And I actually, you
know Fall Fantasy nine, which is one of the games
that I love the death I don't ever use hey,

(15:14):
thank you for watching here. I don't ever use Quina
the Blue Mage, but man, I love the Blue Mage
and Monoco. He's just like I love just going and
finding an enemy I haven't fought with him before and
getting the attack and figuring out, oh, it's this gonna
be something useful for me, is not. I love the

(15:35):
fact that he's like very You can use him as
a support character. You can use him as a you know,
damaged character if you want so, Like I'm really enjoying
like changing around the characters and messing around, Like I
got all my characters like level forty five right now,
and I've seen like what I think it's like sixty

(15:55):
or so you should be at to like beat the
game if you're decent at the at the to get there.
But yeah, man, I don't know any anything else that's
like jumped out at you now that your life gone
backwards and and going through again or.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I still really I'm I'm also really following a guide
now as far as the engine, uh, which is helpful?
Can I missed out on some stuff in the first
my first time of run. I do like the fact
that like the overworld does have kind of a kind
of a map, but it's not it's not great, but
they tried.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah it looks really cool. It's just it's you that
I mean. The overworld map is not the problem, Like
I can find where I want to go. It's when
you get into the actual dungeon that's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm a damn guide because.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I agree, like when I go into some of
these optional areas and it's something where you're actually having
to explore, not the ones where you like, go in
there for like two seconds and get the little music
thing or whatever it is and get out. I am
doing that to you go this like again, I don't
have twenty hours to get lost in the thing. I
will go backwards and like you know, fight the same

(17:08):
enemies again sometimes just to grind or whatever. You know,
So I end up going through that whole section a
few times, but the initial part I'll do it with
a guide or something, just because like, you know, hey,
Doom's coming. I want to like have this game, if
not beat like mostly the way there before that, you know,

(17:29):
I'm starting to play that and just you know, again,
I don't want to be like with Rebirth where we
were talking about Rebirth. I think for like two months
it felt like so you know, obviously this game is shorter,
but still doing all the optional stuff. It feels like this,
you know, the game is a lot longer, but yeah,
I just keep enjoying it still.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I mean in three, when you when you do this
next week, and I, yeah, I might be I know,
I two is longer, but the game opens up at least,
so that's good.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah it does, yeah for sure. But all right, that's
it for the games we've been playing here and uh,
you know Crafty who's in the chat. He's gonna be
on the show this coming week here to talk about Doom,
so we'll get to pick his brain on what he
thinks about. He already has like the physical addition, he
was showing us pictures in his on his community and discord.

(18:24):
It looks really awesome. So, you know, like I said,
right after we did the show, like the day after,
I kind of figured this was gonna happen because normally
you don't do a delay and then don't have something
to show people, right right. So rock Star comes out
with grant the thought six new trailers. It's pretty much

(18:46):
like a story trailer.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, as opposed to like the last one it is.
It's like a mood trailer.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And you know a lot of talk about, oh, was
this actually filmed on a PS five or are they
using PC and saying it to PS five? Is it
I'm a fly pro? Rockstar reiterated that it is a
PS five base PS five. Of course that does not
appear in the wording on an Xbox trailer, but you know,
we know it was done on a PS five. I

(19:13):
wonder if that means that Rockstar has one of those
secret We are doing a kind of marketing deal with PlayStation,
but we're not going to talk about it until, you know,
we know the actual release date. Because just because May
twenty twenty, May twenty twenty sixth May twenty six, twenty
twenty six, sorry is announced, doesn't mean it's actually gonna happen,

(19:37):
because you know, Red Dead and GTA five book got
delayed twice. So and Mike Bobo sinks on YouTube here
he's commenting, says that GTA six will not look like
the trailer. The normalis will turn on it when they
see it's locked at thirty FPS, and in tiars will
be locked like the RDR camp. I mean, they've been
pretty clear that it was going to be thirty you know,

(20:00):
So that's that trailer.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean it looked good, but that none of there's
no gameplayed all that thing, so who cares.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, well, they did say that some of its gameplay
and some of its cut.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Scene it looked like gameplay adjacent, but it wasn't like
you know, behind the shoulder, oh yeah that's gone, you know,
nothing like or even like driving a car. It wasn't
like like that, Leslie Benji's game coming out in a
few weeks. Like they showed that trailer off a few
months ago that looked like gameplay like that kind of
shitty because it was gameplay, but it wasn't just all

(20:35):
t g I or all just FMB stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I mean, I was kind of excited that there.
It seems like they're going to go all over the
map of Florida. Somebody that you know lives in Miami
here getting to see that side of a school.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
They're going to rock Star version of Disney World.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I wonder if that's going to be in there right,
Like I know they they are usually not shameful about
represent but was Disneyland five.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
No, they just had like the boardwalk or the people.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, Okay, So I would imagine it's probably not just
because I don't think they want Disney involved with them
at all, but I would imagine they're gonna get I mean,
we've already seen like at South Beach. They pretty much
looks like they knowed that when they showed in the
first trailer, and then you know, they showed the Dolphins.
Then's like a like a Dolphins Jersey. I don't know

(21:29):
where the clubs are gonna be, but I'm sure some
of them are gonna be on the trip there too.
Definitely is gonna be some I bet Jacksonville and North
Florida Panhandle stuff also, you know so, and then definitely
they showed the Everglades few times, so it's gonna be
fun to see where all this is gonna be at.
I'm kind of more excited about the game now after

(21:50):
they showed this trailer. The thing is, you know, not
kind of kind of pointless to get too excited, because again,
we don't even know if it's They're not gonna delay
it again until like you know, Fall twenty twenty six
or something, even though they've had several dts come out
around that time.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So that's what I actually think. It'll be like October
or even maybe early November.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well that I mean, you think that they got a
gameplay trailer hiding there somewhere that they showed during the
summer games fests or anything like that, or game awarders. Yeah, okay,
I can see that, Yeah, game awards.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean that'd be it'll be like the last spot
or like the last spot, and it'll be like your's
five minutes or ten minutes of you going through a
mission or robbing some meanings or something.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean, do you think he's right about it
won't look that good like we're we're kind of getting
excited about yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
But also I mean it's apples to oranges because it's
a no, no game looks as good as you know,
the pre rendered or the you know, video stuff never
looks as good as the gameplay part. Any game that's
I mean, that's that's a we might get there eventually
that they'll still be like twenty or thirty years, or

(23:07):
it'll be the Nvideo ten thousand series or some stupid.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Thing like that.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think technically though, it's we've got to think about
like all of the AI stuff, like all of the
NPC's moving around kind of thing that rock Star does
so well, Like the way that they do little details
on things that you don't think about, like the way
that you know they'll have somebody type on a computer,
or the way that they you know, they clang the
beer with the MODELO in that trailer, Like a lot

(23:35):
of that stuff seems purpose like they really thought about
a lot of that stuff that you don't really necessarily
get in a lot of other games like it feels
like they will take time on minutia. Of course they
have the ten years to be able to to do
that that you know, almost every other game. No way,
they have that kind of time, right right, You know
they can when you make a billion dollars, you definitely can.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think the problem with that it's kind of a
double lighted sword because like, Okay, that stuff is cool,
but how many more copies is that stuff sell versus
how much how much time and energy and money does
the beer clanging cost?

Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know, it doesn't matter when you've got Grand Theft
Auto Online making handover fish.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Really, but like this is this is the problem that's
you know this game that the game you know, it's
just like future creep Like look at uh Star Citizen,
like that thing is still never coming out.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't I don't think they're gonna have a problem
with that. I mean they have like like we talked
about like last week, they have people that from like
that are familiar with how to do things from roadblocks
of like this essentially just have your own build a
game inside Grand Theft Auto Online. Uh you know have

(24:50):
they've already done this a Grand Theft Auto five, So
they already have that entire history of how to keep
this going, and and I don't I think that's just
gonna continue, right, I saw a lot. How do you
think that, uh, somebody is gonna get I'm sure somebody
is gonna get some kind of You think somebody's gonna

(25:12):
be able to sell PS fives with with Grand the
thought six a bundle as a bundle?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah no, because I don't think they've ever done a
bundle with g t A. It might feel like an
add on or you know, Team Stop or Walmart might
do it, but I don't think it'll be like some
official you know g t A is preloaded on the
system or you know, you get a discopy.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I do think we're probably gonna get some kind of
like exclusive stories or whatever is the PS five for
Grand the thought.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Of online, I mean, I don't even think they did
that with g t A five, so whatever, I mean, yea,
even if they do do custom like content, it'll be
so minor that won't matter at all.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, it's gonna you know, because they did that one
with for four with the DLC, but that was back
when they actually had d OC right right. Five If
you know, they killed that, so, right, it gonna be interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised that they have like a one
dollars super Deluxe thrifty edition that has like who knows
how many outfits and other stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And it'll not include a copy of the game. Yeah, right, good, cool,
that's a cool thing. Special editions nowadays have it's like, oh,
you get.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
The you mean like not having the physical version of
the game.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, no, No, I mean I mean like I'm having
the game at all. Like there are collector's editions and
it's like there's two hundred dollars I think done, did it?
Like or some hid thing where's here's a collector edition
of the game. It has no game included, right, a
whole bunch of other crap and what like. I could
understand partially if you don't want to include like a
physical copy of the game, but you're not even including

(26:50):
a digital one, right, fuck you guys.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, but I mean there's there's like so many versions.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Of that, yeah, and the most expensive one should have
the game.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
The way they're selling the game to look, you're gonna
need an eight K PC, Yeah, sure, probably will. But
I mean that's that's also why they're waiting, right, they
can get you to double dip on the PC version,
it's gonna look hella amazing, and they're gonna put you know,
there's gonna be mods and crazy stuff you're gonna get
to do in that game. Yeah, you know, uh, we'll

(27:24):
see you know, Mike worries about Do you worry about
that too? Because Red de Redemption two was had a
problem with being kind of slow.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, that's why I stopped playing it.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Do you think GT six is gonna have that problem.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Or yeah, because it'll it'll the longer it'll take you
to get through it, the more they can kind of
suck you into GT online, and the less you want
to the less I want to solve it back to
a game stop or whoever. Yeah, I mean, I mean
even like the problem is like most GTA stories are
like bloated or you know, editing is needed. So believe me,

(27:59):
I'm sure this'll have that same problem.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah. I wonder how much there's because they they show
them obviously a lot together in this trailer, So is
almost everything gonna be where they're both together in this
or is there they're gonna split them off and you're
gonna have the two different stories solo because in the
last game had the three different characters, so.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I imagine that you can split them off. But I imagine
for like the open world shit, right, if you you know,
for the mission, they'll be together. It's the story requires it.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of Bonnie and Clyde in.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Here, right, you know. Well it's more like Mickey Mickey
and Mallory Knots from Natural Born Killers as well.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
So all right, I mean, you know, even uh rock
Stars you know, said that they essentially just they have
all kinds of faith in the studio. They didn't tell anybody.
They wanted the studio to kind of announced this stuff.
They did also like reveal like a lot of the
characters as well, so like you can go find that
online end of in here.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I didn't reason any of that. I couldn't want
to spoil it.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Or you know, on the same way, I didn't really
want to know too much.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
There's the one guy that says in this tryer like
if you have someone hooked me up or whatever. He
looks exactly like I can't think of his name, but
he's in the bear. He's like the maintenance guy right
in the bear. He looks exactly like and I'm just like,
I wonder if there was some you know, did did
he get some permission for that or they just kind

(29:32):
of made it really close.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Uh made it close.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, but we'll see since we're on that where we're
talking about take two. Uh. They also announced the Mafia
the Old Country, following in the footstets of Claire Obscure.
It's gonna be fifty Bucks, comes out August eighth, which
the release date was overity kind of leaked before, but

(29:56):
they said that they believed that there is room in
their profolio for a game that is very just narrative
driven and kind of has a linear focus, which is
kind of the opposite of what Mafia has been. They're
very open worldly and.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, the open also was always bad.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So yeah, I mean they they kind of did give
them that feedback as well of just like, uh, maybe
that's not a direction we need to keep going, and
they've taken that to heart.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah right now. I mean I tried to play that
Mafia one remaster and I just got incredibly bored because
the city is like a decent scale. They've got nothing
to do in it. It's just driving from one nation
to the other and this takes up a lot of
goddamn time, so I'd rather just yeah, cut that and
just get you know, get with it.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
So this makes you kind of more interested playing it, sure, Yeah,
but I mean I think it also makes more sense
because it's a prequel, right, they can kind of go
in any kind of direction they want.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, I surely don't want to, like I'm not even
sure when it's supposed to take place, but like, I'm
sure it'd be hard to like even with cars, like
trying to recreate like you know, Italy or Sicily or whatever.
You know, cities and areas are going to you know,
have this game in so it's like, screw it, let's
just have it mission by mission or whatever. Yeah, I'm

(31:22):
sure you'll have like I'm sure you'll have like a
home base maybe, or you know, something like a house
or apartment where you can like change outfits and do
all the other stupid crap you can do in these games.
But that'll be about it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, definitely, I'm kind of I'm looking forward to it,
just because you know, that whole thing, and also the
fact that doesn't have the big open world, because you know,
i'd rather be able to get through the story and
go on and not have to interrupt it constantly with
collectith on stuff or various other side mission things that don't.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a lot that killed Indiana Jones for me, Like
when I once I do it's a car and I
gotta get almost cramped down a second.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
No, I don't like, well, yeah, I was gonna say,
like Indiana Jones has a story line through, you don't
have to do all that, but you can if you want,
you know. Uh. Also, Mike brought up a good point.
They might they most likely probably gonna have like some
kind of relationship meter or something between the two. I
wouldn't be surprised that they'll add in because yeah, there's

(32:25):
it's you know, if you're gonna go all across Florida
or it's gonna be centered around in Vice City, definitely
going to have like, oh, let's go on a date,
let's do all this stuff, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
And yeah, to be like oh, yeah, increased ranks so
now your partner is more capable or yeah, exactly whatever, But.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
All right, moving on from take two, Box Star, they're
heading into something that maybe effects the well most likely
does affect the video game and tech landscape for their
foreseeable futures. You know, as long as doesn't go backwards,

(33:04):
don't like Look, I'm not trying to make this political.
It just affects a video game market. So US and
China both agreed to a ninety day pause on tariffs
stuff coming into Uh there's a you know, stuff that's
coming in to the US from China. China's terrorists on

(33:25):
American goods went from one hundred twenty five percent to
ten percent, and US terrorists on Chinese goods went from
one hundred and twenty five percent to thirty percent. So
that's a lot less, right, So Sony was was smart
in waiting, right. I guess at this point, you know,
now they probably have a good reason to just say, Okay,

(33:47):
we're not gonna we're not going to increase prices right now.
You know, depending on whatever that thirty percent is, and
who knows if they it could go down even more.
You know, they say this is not the end of talks,
it's just you know, kind of a preliminary like, let's
get this out there right and you know, we'll see
how it goes. Uh, the US is going to pay

(34:09):
like ten percent more interest than they were before this
whole thing started. But I guess it's you know, way
less than you know, all those companies would have had
to pay before. But yeah, interesting, Microsoft kind of jumped
the gun. I wonder if there's any kind of thought
of should we have waited to or you think that

(34:29):
was kind of just an excuse they wanted to raise
the prices.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think they jumped the gun. I mean they're trying
to sell consoles, and they're trying to you.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Know, they have to look at them, Mark, are they
trying to sell.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well ideally they should be, but or if they aren't,
just saying fuck it and immediately just discontinue the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well no, I mean it's still the highest reason to have.
I mean, it's still the highest player counter game, so
they're definitely not going to discontinue it. But it's just like,
I get it, the U want people to play game
Pass wherever, Right, that's the whole point. Get the revenue,
get the subscriber, right, But the console was still like

(35:10):
a great way to get people in your home playing
that thing. It's there, you can use it for other things,
and it's just like all right, I mean y'all are
going to try to sell people on another one of these.
You already took away all the games, You're going to
move those to PlayStation. Eventually, you're moving them one by
one pretty much. We talked about Gears last week, so

(35:32):
you know, it's just kind of it's like, all right,
well you kind of just already told us pretty much
like you don't expect hardly anyone to go buy these comments.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Let me ask you this, for the when Tony makes
the PS six, if they actually said we will allow
game Pass to be on here, do you think Xbox
make another console?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Man, I just can't, Like, you know, that's the line
that I feel like if you cross that, you might
as well juste up. Right, Like at first when they
still had the exclusive games, I think if they would
have said, yeah, let us have game Pass on PlayStation,
I think they would have done it. But I think
now it's like, no, man, you cannot put that on

(36:14):
PlayStation because what is the point. What's the point of
buying anything that has Xbox on it. What's the point
of buying I mean, like they have a picture of it.
I forgot to put it in here while I'm loading
this up. Yeah, the Xbox rog Ally essentially, like if

(36:35):
you're gonna have a if you're making your own handheld, right,
you're trying to the only thing that I feel like
has a shot at selling with Xbox on it at
this point, aside from the crazy people that might buy
the Xbox rog Ally thing, is that Xbox handheld for
the next general if you don't have game Pass on

(36:58):
that and it's not on and I'd have to take
us off to have it completely on there. But man,
that thing just looks like a rog ally with some
with the Xbox buttons. It's not anything.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, like in the Ally was kind of piece of
ship when I first launched. It's like, yep, and.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It's a fair I mean, which I'm fine with because
you know, they really shouldn't be charging a crazy amount
for it or you're not going to have anybody buying it. Also,
I mean, apparently it's not as powerful as the like
big the most expensive rog but it's not comparable to
the the like I guess base version of it, so

(37:44):
I mean, and that's fine in a way. It's just
if you don't have game Pass as your exclusive or whatever,
it just doesn't make sense to me, Like what's the
point at that point of I get it it's about revenue,
but what do you what is anybody that has anything

(38:06):
to do with Xbox gained from that? And it just
I saw some folks talking about it, like is that
just are they just putting the games on PlayStation not
just to make money but also to this is the
way to get PlayStation to accept game pass because now

(38:26):
all the games are all the cart and that's what
it looks like. It has the this is the leath image.
By the way, it's not image, but it just has
the Xbox buttons there and that's pretty much it. Everything
else kind of looks like a wrong ally.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Would ever allow this, would be like one that would
have to say no more, no more hardware, and then
we're gonna gives you a cut.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Oh definitely, but it's on their store. It's just like
you know anything, It's like Xbox is a cut of
all the Tell games that they have on PlayStation.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Tell that to Epic who thinks, so, you know, Story
should be completely free and all that other bullshit like no,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Didn't they when when Team Swingy won the Apple Case
or whatever, EF won that Apple Case, which you know,
they're still going to fight it globally there they want
to the US. He talked about like he might go
after consoles too, and it's like, I don't know, you're
pressing there.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I don't think that. Yeah again, I as fast to
him is twofold a fuck off? And then b like,
what right do you have to dictate if I make
a marketplace or make a console or make a phone.
What right do you have to be? You know?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
No, I think the phone is a little bit different
because Apple is making money off of any link that
you are putting to get somebody to go to a
different store. I think that's a little bit like that's obtrusive.
At that point you're telling people, oh, we made it
to where you can have this on the store now,
but we're still going to get something. And it's like

(40:02):
you should still get something right from you know, the
initial whatever from it, you know, the initial purchase or
the initial but it's like, why do you need to
get every single you know? I think it's different when
a phone is a necessity almost and when you're talking
about consoles that have the precedent that it's been like that,

(40:24):
I don't know if that's gonna fly necessarily because you know,
they're not obtruding anybody from putting something on the store, right,
it's still free. Essentially, you're just okay, you're giving Xbox
or so near Nintendo a cut of every bacco transaction
that they buy for Fortnite or whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, But at the end of the day, I feel
like I'm like you, if Microsoft gives up on the
console completely and they say, okay, you know what, it's
just not working. It's not going to sell. There's kind
of no point to having this. What we really want
is we're the number one publisher on PlayStation. You know,

(41:06):
they have the top three games selling games on it
for April on the PlayStation store. We want to keep
doing that. The conflicts just losing us money. That's when
I think, okay, we're out of here, right. So and
then they'll they'll agree to have game Pass because even
though it will be only first party game Pass, because

(41:27):
they're not going to let them have the third parties
on game Pass there because it undercuts Sony. Nobody will
buy the game on PlayStation. But yeah, I just I
think this is all a great idea in theory, you know,
it just I don't see the point of game pass
if you're going to put it on the other console,

(41:48):
Because why does anybody need to buy anything with Xbox
anything at that point if you don't even have game
passes in exclusive, like at least you buy a fire
stick or you have your TV and it happens to
like mine where you can get the Xbox apt or whatever.
I only pay twenty bucks a month and I can

(42:09):
get all these games. If I can now do that
on PlayStation, why would I even bother ever thinking about
buying an Xbox device other than I have Xbox games
that don't work outside of game pass, right, the backwards
compatibility thing, and that's going to keep getting a smaller
and smaller and smaller piece of the pie at that point.

(42:32):
So and even Xbox die hards that never buy anything
PlayStation in their life or thinking about, what's the point, right,
I have the systems that can play those games. If
I want to play those games, you know, I'll just
take one of those systems out or just keep my
theories X or S or whatever and keep playing those games,

(42:53):
and then I'll just get a PlayStation from now.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
But you know one thing that's positive for Xbox. It's
that it seems like they are finally done with the FTC.
You know, the FTC filed the appeal to the decision
by the District ninth Circuit Court that denied them the
access to the injunction that would have blocked the deal

(43:16):
from going through. The deal went through, and now the
injunction has been denied, so I'm sure they could appeal
it again, but I think at that point you're just
really grasping its straws. Right, So Microsoft officially owns that
division Blizzard officially, even though they are what he did.
But I guess that's a good thing for Microsoft. I

(43:38):
don't know if that helps them with anything as far
as if they were holding back any kind of backwards
compatible stuff or putting any kind of games on game
Pass or whatever because of that. Yeah, you know, it helps.
I guess that they're finally done with it so they
can stop paying legal fees to fight them in court.
I guess speaking of game Pass, since we're already there,

(44:03):
Doom is obviously coming next week. We know that that's
the big highlight Doom, the Dark Ages. That is, there's
reviews out there. It has like what an eighty five
or so eighty four. I think Ida haven reviewed it,
so I'll put a link in the description there of ten.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, they did not a lot of talk about how
this is not like where where do you are you
interested at all in this? The way that they have
the gameplay with the kind of the standiard ground, the
block and counter thing or no.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
But I said that to someone who didn't like the
last two games.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
So yeah, I but the last two games were different
from each other too.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But you know, same dudes are making it. It's not
you know, I mean sure, but yeah, I don't like
the core ethos of the game.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
So I get in the credit for at least trying
to do something different, you know, with the last one
in the trilogy or whatever. Maybe it's not gonna be
everybody's cup of tea, but there seems to be a
lot of people that are lacking as well. Uh. The
other kind of highlight, which is cool because I had
no idea this existed, is like there's a spin off
game of Limbo called Kulebra and the Souls of Limbo

(45:15):
that's coming to Game Pass on the sixteenth, which has
characters on both sides, both good and evil. For the
game that you get to Meet, So that's cool that
that exists, and it's coming to game Pass. Both Inside
and Limbo had been on game Pass before, so kind
of makes sense. Yeah, so that's that's cool. That's like

(45:37):
the one and the time from Revenge of the Stablished
Planet was out. Now also you go play that. The
other stuff is stuff that's already been on game Pass.
It's not going to beyond standard or whatever. And the
simulator games Fire Priders Simulator and Police Simulator that I
guess does decently well that they keep getting all these
simulator games to put on game Pass.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But yeah, people like those were like relaxing games.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
So yeah, sure, I've seen people play those, like train simulators.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
How they have like elaborate train controllers and.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, exactly. But let's move on to Sony here on
the other side of the the console spectrum. A leak
happened like right before we're about to start. The episode
of a trailer was shown a little bit too early,
but on the PlayStation YouTube channel for Stellar Blade going

(46:30):
to PC officially, June eleventh is the release date. So
it's going to release like the week after Summer Game Fest.
It's going to have all of the typical stuff you'd expect,
you know, high resolution textures, the lss FSR. It's gonna
have twenty five new costumes, ultra wide support, dual sense,

(46:53):
there's gonna be a pre order outfit as well, a
lot more other stuff, unlock frame rate, and I'm sure
mods that are going to make all kinds of crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Stuff that'll be like within the first minute.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You know. Yeah, both of us really enjoyed this game.
Happy for people that are on PC didn't get to
play it. Yep, anything you want to say on that.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
No, I mean, I don't think I'll get it unless
they send a review code, which I doubt. But yeah,
I'm sure that game will gromance in PC.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, I'm sure it will look great on PC or it'll.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Be a family met mess like PS five releases. You know,
a few years ago or even like a year ago,
we're pretty good, but now they're a little more ify.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So let's hope that. Let's hope it's good.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, hopefully they put in the time.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Uh for sure. Speaking of putting the time, we've known
about the studio for a while and when we talked
about Destiny having that mobile that they're making with the
you know code named Gummy Bearers. Officially, the team has
a name. It is called Team LFG, which officially is
being called Looking for Group. You know, we know what

(48:02):
FG means in another context, which considering it has what
like Fortnite Deves, Bungee Doves and whatnot, which really kind
of doesn't mean much nowadays because you can have a
dev team full of people that were just super experienced
and all this stuff and the game ones up flopping regardless.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Also people from Roadblocks and League of Legends, so definitely
folks that know their what's going on with the live service,
and you know, those games that people are playing constantly.
We're talking about some of the highest number between League
of Legends, Fortnite, Roadblocks and even Destiny. Talk about people

(48:47):
that are playing those games constantly, every day kind of thing.
They're based in Bellevue, Washington. I like their mission statement
that they kind of brought it out that they're they're
there basically building a community wanting to h you know,
have the thing that it's about pulling off the play
that makes the whole match. But this is a the

(49:08):
first games of Mobia, and you don't really you know,
MOBAs kind of went out of style. There's not many
that are kind of still in doing extremely well in existence.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I mean just a big two. Yeah, yeah, the Big.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Two, and that's that's kind of it. But also there's
not a ton of them, right, Uh, like the Extraction
Suitor for instance. Do you think this puts them in
a better spot to maybe have this kind of surprise or.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
If it's I don't think if it's a console mobile,
I don't think it'll work at all. Uh yeah, if
it's you know, PC, it might have a chance, but
that's like four percent or something. I mean, help Blizzards
Mobive failed basically, so if Blizzard can't do it, yeah,
just you know what chance of this thing has.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
The only people that have been able to do it
really is Pokemon Unite, and that's you know, I don't
know how many players that has, but they're still do it.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So that's because it's just the brand name though, right Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
It is about that for sure. But I mean, hey, uh,
you know people that are complaining about, oh man, somebody's
still doing the live service, why do they make another
studio to do this? It's like this studio of it existed,
they just gave it a name. Now they got to
keep going for this even if it does fail. Honestly,

(50:32):
because Xbox has Minecraft, Xbox has Call of Duty, Xbox
has uh can't they have Candy Crush, like you know,
they have some of the they have war Zone, they
have like all these live service things that basically allows
them to funds all of their little you know, all

(50:52):
their boutique games and all their stuff, and like Sony
doesn't have that, and at some point, you know, but like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yes, Sonya doesn't have that, but look at you know,
the sales between Sony Amercanso consoles.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Or okay, the consoles cell but eventually with all the
money that you're putting into those.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Games, not even the console, look at you know, like
the overall health of the division.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
No, right, it's it's doing great. The portal is doing
amazing compared to what they thought it was going to do.
You know, I think only VR two is really the
one that's kind of doing okay, even though I think
there's that were going to do a VR three supposedly.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they do, just
to say that they did it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
But like I mean they barely even sold the VR
two on like in stores. And you can, yes, you
can say that the pandemic was like a problem or
a major influence of that, but like pandemic's pretty much over.
It's been over for like three years now. And have
you ever watching the game staff or like you know,
a Target or Walmart it's in a PSVR two on

(52:01):
a store shelf. Fuck no, no, So.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
But I mean, like even Meta, even Facebook Meta reported
that there the sales are dropping for the medical.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, you can still go do the best buy and
see and buy a Quest three or whatever. You know,
it'll be in the dusky corners where you might get
shanked because there's no lighting back there, but they still
have them. Like so, I mean, I think the problem
is like VR is kind of done at least for
now because head sets or two bulky still there's not

(52:32):
enough content.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I mean, like it's expensive, right, and especially for the
sunny part. You got to buy the console. I mean, yes,
now it works with PC, but you also got to
have a pretty good PC to be.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Able to great for that. But also like even if
you bought like a Quest three right now or whatever,
is like the current modern version of it right, and
you go to like the most popular game or popular
app on the you know, Oculus or Medical as you
know storefront, it's beat Saber and it's a ya is
ten years old. Like if there's not a new game

(53:08):
overtaking it or you know, doing something new, that's a
real content problem.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I mean, yeah, that is a problem. But also it's
like beatsavers like gold dude, it's like rock band without
having to have all the instruments and then you can
also exercise to that thing. I mean, like it's talk about.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
But they made a rock band too after like two years,
and made a rock band three after about two and
a half for three years.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Like, but that's just kind of the way it goes.
I mean, in the years past, we would have had
a Destiny three by now. It's just just you know,
we would have had a Minecraft two in the past.
But it's just it's just the way it is. Keep
that game going until it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
The problem is that mentality like once once they eventually
beat the dead horse, you know into dust, Like.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Will we beat the dead horse though?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Will we Well, that's exactly what you're saying, is like
ride you know, ride the horse into the into the dirt.
It's like, Okay, you did that. Now you have to
actually make the new one or the new sequel, which
you should, Like we talked about this last week, like
the sim's five. Yeah you've been doing that five years
ago and yo, you didn't. So now you have to
wait five years and with people forgetting the brand or

(54:23):
forgetting you know, all the good memories they had with it,
and will they come back to the next one? Maybe
maybe not?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
You know, yeah, I just I have this feeling like
right now, it's just the way things are. Regardless of
the stuff of the tariffs or whatever. Things are not
getting cheaper. Things are getting more expensive. Consoles are getting
more expensive regardless. Sure, but like games are getting more expensive.
Play the thing that's free until you.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Know, but it's it's the thing that's free is looking
is looking like a ten or fifteen year old game,
because hey, it is like what's the new thing or
why buy the console in the first place?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, I mean like, but that's that's the thing is
like Sony doesn't have the thing.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Right that Microsoft's things are all. You know, Minecraft is
fifteen years old, right, uh you know, call of Dudy.
I mean they make a new one of those, thankfully,
but it's built on they're not like massively different or
upgraded from you know, game like it was telling me
when my roommate god a PS five pro, like the
first thinging dollar was Destiny too. Yes, the use of

(55:33):
this system, you know, like but yeah, it's like yeah
for him, it's like what what what's the new thing?
And it's like, well, maybe war Zone but that's about it.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah. I mean, it's just one of those things where
it's like, listen, I don't blame people at that point.
You keep playing that because it's a thing you like, right,
and it doesn't cost you anything other than the skins
you want to buy whatever, which is crazy. People will
spend play fight our skins, but they don't want to
play a you know, like a brand new game that
came out. But that's that's the thing, right, you invested

(56:06):
so much in this game, you just buy the skin,
and it doesn't feel like you wasted money because you've
always spent so many hours in this game.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
It's it's funny, like three or four weeks ago, I
actually did I finally broke down and actually spent money
in Infinity Nikki basically their season past thing. Yeah, I
was like right before the patch that fucked everything up,
So now I kind of don't want to go back
to it, or it only will take a while for
me to go back to it.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, And you know, I still contend to like it
makes sense why somebody's doing this. I don't know how
many more of them have to do either just okay
or fail in order for them to finally just be like, well,
we got to we got to figure out something else, right, right?
Do they eventually go to the Microsoft route of having
different studios doing smaller games, or smaller studios doing kind

(56:58):
of like double A games that aren't like two hundred
three hundred million dollars every time. Maybe that's the route
as well. Obviously Microsoft has game Pass to get people
to try those out. For a forty dollars fifty dollars
game that that you know doesn't cost you anything except
for the twenty dollars a month you already paid to

(57:19):
try it out and beat it in a weekend or
a week or whatever. I don't know. I don't know
if somebody's gonna go that route. I mean, they barely
put They'll put like one indie game on PS Plus
at launch, you know, for you So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
They don't predicularly care about any games, so you know,
why would they put a bunch of that stuff on
PS Plus.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
It's no I'm saying, like the way that the reason
why that works, right is I'm not having to buy
the forty or fifty dollars game to figure out if
I like it, I'm just spending it on the service,
whereas like would so many go that route to try
to get more games out, uh in a lesser time
frame without spending so much money because they don't have

(58:06):
the live service game that you know kind of you know,
funnels in money constantly to help when things don't sell
as well. So you know, maybe maybe they're route with
the movies and TV shows are going to be the
thing that the is gonna help fund instead of the
live service games that haven't worked out.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Twist and Metal season two is gonna be a real winner.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, for sure, we'll see. I mean Last of Us
is kind of if I don't I don't know what
the temperature is on that from the you know, the casuals,
but all I keep seeing from the people that are
like the ones that have played the games. Every episode
they hate it more and more, so I don't I
don't know. I'm still waiting for the whole season to
come out to watch it, so, you know, I guess

(58:52):
that's fair. Moving on to uh EA here because they
have some news. Splip fiction has sold four million copies,
which is pretty great considering that also because of that
from pass. I wonder how many more they would have
sold if they didn't have the friend pass where your
friend also has to buy a copy of it, or
would that mean that they sell less because of that?

(59:14):
But so pretty cool. You know that Joseph Ferism's put
fiction has done well. Happy to see it for them.
The thing that's kind of news for EA this week
and something I meant to mention with Sony last week,
I guess we can put it in here as well.
EA is not going to raise the prices on games,
so they're not going to fall Nintendo in Microsoft's lead

(59:36):
right now for the eight hour games. Tony is apparently
not going to because there are two games that you know,
they're two big releases for this year, have already gotten.
You know that you can already pre order them. So
those are both seventy Death Stranding two Ghost of yote EA. Really,
we talked about it already last week. Their slate of

(59:58):
games is the three sports games. That's all they really
have left for this year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
That's what I was just gonna say, is them saying
that we're not going to pruce the prices. It's like, yeah,
you shouldn't, because you don't make new shit. You know.
It's a roster update and maybe one or two new
features that probably won't go over well, and that's it.
So I think, you know, if they tried to make
Madden an eighty dollars game, it's like good luck, you know.
Then I think people just took with the old one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Not only that, but I also think it's like you
just talked about EA's FC not selling what you wanted
it to. The micro transactions didn't add up to what
she wanted it to. If you raise that price up
another ten dollars right there, people go and buy it,
right But the people that are on that fringe of going.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
See, if anything, they should lower the price because it
would help drawing people to and they're crazy lootbox gambling system.
Can you imagine if this nonsense had happened when the
Dreamcast was around with the NFL two gay games.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Oh yeah, man, the NFL two K would have been
able to eat that up so bad. But of course
that's what caused them to lose the license was because
they did that without the NFL's consent. Put the price
of twenty bucks, so you know, it would have been
interesting to see. Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Also, I think, like, honestly, if EA came out with
a new game, like a holy new game and they
wanted to targe eighty bucks for it and it was good,
I yeah, sure I might pay for it for an
interest in me, you know, absolutely. But yeah, if they said,
you know, we're we're charging eighty bucks for the new
new hockey game, and so okay, you'll sell to like

(01:01:41):
the hockey weirdos out there, you know, but that's it.
And anyone who actually I would want to play, lets
you know, buy the old one for four bucks a game. Stop.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, I mean that's that was the thing last year
about college football, right right? Is it felt special because
it was the first time I'm in eleven years we've
had this game. How special is twenty twenty six college
football gonna field?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
You know, it's been really funny to see h You know,
for years NCAA fourteen was like, you know, one hundred bucks,
one hundred and fifty bucks occasionally like a used to work.
Right now it's like, you know, five maybe or is
that you know, it's so it's dropped so much, it's
been it's been hysterical.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah, because you can essentially play fourteen in the twenty
five right with the new players and all that stuff,
So it's got pointless. But yeah, I agree with you
on that. I it's just look, there's no reason for
them to do it. Also, because you've already kind of
given us information about those games. It almost feels like

(01:02:46):
a slap in the face to raise the press of
eighty like we'll see next year, right. I don't know
what their slate is because almost everything that they're outside
of zero company, almost everything else they're releasing outside of
like mobile stuff is we don't know when the hell
is going to come out, So they really it's just
like Sony, there's no rush for them to put the

(01:03:08):
games at eighty bucks, right, there's no point to do it.
You might as well just wait, just put everything out
of seventy, make the money you're gonna make, and then
see Okay, if it's not enough, then you know, say whatever,
pr spin, you got to put on it and make
it eighty bucks for next year, right right, because it's

(01:03:29):
not like we're getting I don't you know, whatever the
mass effect game is, We're not getting that. Next year,
we don't and then after that we really don't know
when when the next things are coming gay. So unless
they just completely surprised with something and and it's like
going better than they thought it was, it's kind of
the same thing. We'll see next year if Sony announces it,

(01:03:52):
does the state of play in June? Do they have
anything that's gonna come out like like I wouldn't be
supposed to. Wolverine is the first eighty dollars game, but
that things not coming out till next year, so you know,
we'll see how that how that goes for them. But yeah,
I mean Xbox has I'm gonna guess it's Gears E Day.

(01:04:13):
I don't know. We'll find out in less than a
month now whatever their fall game is gonna be. I'm
sure they will have release dates for some stuff at
that showcase, and I'm sure they will probably announce at
some point whether it's in a press release probably not
in the showcase. It's helping air press release, which one
of those is eighty. Although they have game pass, you
don't have to play it for eighty unless you're buying

(01:04:34):
it on something that's not buying it on your PS
five or your PC. Really it's just PS five because
you don't even if you have Steam. You know, even
if you have PC, you don't have to technically buy
it on there. But yeah, like that's the thing is,
even if Xbox says that for Xbox console owners and
xbo it's like it doesn't seem like that big a

(01:04:56):
deal because you're still paying for a twenty dollars game pass. Now.
I don't know if game Fest will go up to
like twenty five or something at some point. I'm sure
that that's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
If I were Microsoft right now, I would hold off
because again, the more supposed to you make that, the
less of a bargain that thing seems like, and more
people are gonna unsubscribe. And right now you're going crazy
about how Call of Duty helped you, you know, retain subscribers.
Jacket at the price of that thing is not going
to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But all right, speaking, there is just fifty bucks a
month and to say it's like buying a call duty
every month.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Right, speaking of things that maybe not helpful, especially if
you're planning on owning a switch to uh, we'll talk
about the I don't know if there's much to say
about they should have video. The mouse controls we're neat.
I mean, I like the fact that it's like seamless.
I'm glad that it's not something where it's like the

(01:05:52):
switch one was so cumbersome about like taking out controllers
and taking the joy coron out of the switch and
then it has to pause your game to recognize that
the switch now is you're using the joy con controller
and then oh man, I want to go back to
using the proke controler on and now it's gotta pause
me again. And like the fact that this is seamless,

(01:06:15):
like where I'm just going from moving the mouse to
oh I can stand it up and then start using
the joy cond normal. I like that. That actually makes
me want to kind of maybe play around with the
mouse controls more, you know, but okay, I'm going to
navigate the menu with it because I'm gonna using.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
The proke control thing, right, you know how I solved
that problem, never took my switch out of the dock
and always had my broke control plug in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
There's that, but you can't like for me, the only
thing that's kind of annoying is the switch where it
sits behind my TV. It's not the easiest thing in
the world to like pull it out and back in.
So I did like using the proke controller to like
wake it up, so that you can't do that with
the pro controller one. So it's like I don't want

(01:07:03):
to pay ninety bucks for another controller, you know. So
it's like, man, I'm gonna have to figure out something
and make a little bit easy. Now, maybe that court
will be a lot longer and I can put it
like on the side where I have my night standing
and I have to be like completely behind. But we'll see.
The thing with Nintendo this week is not only are
they you know, got gankey in court for that three

(01:07:26):
D printed switch to, they modified their user agreement that
you signed the EULA you know, in preparation for the
switch to. It seems after May sixth they have now
added parts of this to the privacy policy and the
YULA that essentially makes it to where now if you modify,

(01:07:53):
reverse engineer, lease, rent, decompiled, disassemble, distribute, offer so or
great derivative works of any portion of the Nintendo account services.
Blah blah blah. You can get in trouble for that,
and they can essentially make your console unusable. They can

(01:08:14):
brick your console. It's what they're saying in this user agreement.
Do you think that my Nintendo would actually go that
far and break somebody's gone?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, But I also think, you know, enterprising hackers will
get around it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
See, I just don't like, you know, I know, Nintendo
is very good about coming on their threats, right, Like,
if there's one company that they do not care about,
who you are or whatever, they want to sue you.
They will see. Right whether whether the thing with Power
World ends up being a win for them or not,
we'll see, because they still have patents that proved that
they They filed those things after the game came out,

(01:08:51):
So it's like, if you're really looking at it, it's like, yes,
there's precedent that Pokemon existed with the poke ball thing,
and it sucks that Power Will how to take that
out the game. But technically there's still a chance that
nintentdo could lose, right, Power is just kind of doing
that because you're like, hey, if we do lose, we
already took out of the game, you know whatever. And

(01:09:11):
obviously it's costing them legal fees and other bull craft
that they have to deal with now. And I'm sure
that they didn't want to have to deal with. They
are still in Indie at the end of the day.
I don't know, man, I just feel like you go
that far of like bricking a console because somebody was
playing an emulated game on it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
It's like, do you not understand how this works? Like, yeah,
they're gonna do it. They are an intent, like they
don't give a fuck, like the responsibility, Hey don't do
that and then be buy another one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Right, But I mean, like I feel like we're talking
about like we've seen before, where you lose are not ironclad.
You can find legalese around to where.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, but like okay, if someone hacks a switch to
to like run via, I'll see or Linux go for it.
But yeah, it's never that it's someone had to switch
to to run switch to games and having the cartridge
in the console or you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, or getting making that cart that has you know
the files to run. However many games, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Switch games on it or so what you're saying is
when I get my switch to if I get when
I shouldn't pop in that flash card.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I got, I wouldn't if.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Or buy a warranty ahead of time. Or it could
be a cool like Joe or bricking bricking cartridge thing,
like if it just go to a store and pop
it in and have it brick the console and then
leave laughing moniacally as they escape.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
You know, it's like those people that would buy you know,
I don't know if those are ever true, but the
people that would buy the opposing console and they're not
an Xbox or PlayStation fan or whatever, and they would
buy it to like bust it right and break it
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Within like the first five minutes of the PS five
being out, Yeah, there's some idiot on YouTube, you know,
breaking it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, it's like, hey, more power to you. That's how
you want to waste your money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
But yeah, I mean, hey, they can try to do this,
but I don't think it'll work at all because it's
not like, you know, the hackers and people like that
give a fuck, like they don't still do it. They
just get away around it. I mean, look at like
it took them a while, but the Xbox three sixty
is like completely busted open. Now. The PS three isn't
bust it open for at least five years. Even the

(01:11:34):
PS four is kind of open.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So yeah, I wonder if this is also why they, like,
I don't know, if somebody's gonna I'm sure someone will
figure out how to make this work with the virtual
game cards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
No, I was gonna say, like the switch one was
basically broken by a fucking paper clip, you know, so yeah,
they'll get around this, no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Well I meant more like, you know, well, right now,
there's that issue of okay, Nintendo basically made it to
where you can't share your games like the way you
do with the ends for PlayStation right right now with
this virtual card up, they were you have to physically
be in the same place as the other person in
order to and you also have to have that family
account as well, So it's not just having the regular

(01:12:20):
version of Nintendo Switch online. You have to have the
family account. They have to be in your family and
then also now that that's been allowed to be people
that are not in your actual household, but you could
also used to be able to quot do that whole
same thing of oh, I'm part of the family account,
I don't necessarily live with that person, but I can
still play their games if I'm not the primary owner

(01:12:43):
as long as they're connected to the Internet or whatever.
Now it's like, oh, that's not going to work. I
wonder how long it takes for someone to figure out
the wrap around for that. But it's interesting that they
put that in the ula that you sign in both
the US and UK that you can't rent or would
that count as renting? Would would they count that as

(01:13:03):
renting if somebody figures out a way to make it
work within the software that Nintendo has or whatever without
doing I'm sure they have to hacket it some way
to do it. But it's like, it'd be interesting if
would they go after that person because that's considered that
you were allowing other people to rent games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Well, Nintendo has always had a nice healthy relationship with
you know, video stores, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
They had that fight with Blockbuster, right, or they tried
that outlaw renting video.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Right and then yeah, even before that, like video stars
were like copying manuals, you know, for their games, and
they him to suit them and stop that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be. I want to see
who's gonna be the first one to show up with
like Nintendo break my cansole and whatever. And then you
know it follows like string what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
We kind of do on it? I mean, my nice question.
It's not even did it for the fun of it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Like, yeah, if you're going to do that, try to
keep all of your stuff on the PC, do not
put yours. But you know that's the thing is like
once once one person does it and they put the
file on the internet and Nintendo ain't stopping that, and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Then to break my console and then the subheadline is
I was trying to install the homebrew load or two
on it, like or you know like that. Yeah, I
wonder why.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
But all right, you know, we'll we'll we got at
least a month until maybe perhaps we see the first
one of those if Nintendo actually does it or not,
do they issue some kind of like big time pr
warning or something like, hey, don't do this, we will
next person we see you break your console. Uh yeah,
we'll see how that goes. But a few things here,

(01:14:53):
just to kind of get it out of the way
before we talk about some cool news that happened with
from last week. FBC fire Break is gonna have a
technical test, uh this week May fifteenth to the nineteen.
You can go sign up right now if you want
to go be part of that, you know, kind of
test out the game and stuff. That's just for PCPs
five and Xbox Series X and S owners. Of course,

(01:15:16):
it is going to be part of Game Pass and
PS Plus when it released on June seventeenth, so uh,
you know, you don't have to pay for the price
to play the game. It is gonna be only forty
bucks as well, So there's that you're gonna sign up
for this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
No, no, I just have very little interest in this
project overall. You know, just multiplayer, you know, time to
controlled loosely. But yeah I didn't. I mean, I'm the
one here living in like a wan Way two, so right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Man, the big like control remedy person. I'm almost thinking
that I'm really thinking about it, but also like I'm
not in a rush because I can just play it.
I actually kind of don't want to be spoiled by it, honestly,
but I'm also not big on multiplayers. So it's like,
if I have some you know, like out of Haven

(01:16:05):
pals and want to play and we all play together,
I'm cool with that. Or you know, folks from Crafty's
community or whatnot, we can all play together. I'm good
with that. I don't want to really play with randos,
but you know, I will probably check out whatever story
stuff that they wind to put in that. That's one
of the funnest parts about the Remedy Control Universe thing

(01:16:26):
is it's almost much like Twin Peaks, where it's like
all the theory, crafting and all that stuff that's gone on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I want to check the YouTube video that just has it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that'll that'll make it fun to watch.
Virtual of five or five REBO is coming to consoles
with the rollback neck code, and it will release on PC,
Placer five Series X and S, and Nintendo switch To
along with the new content and cross play support. So cool.

(01:16:59):
Glad to see that's happened, and it's gonna be on
switch To. So, I don't know, are you a big
virtual fight er five?

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Are you? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
No, I'm not. I'm not a fighting game, per.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I kind of I am a fighting game person somewhat,
but there are franchises and shit I have never even touched, so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Like Federal Fury, I'm guessing is not one of your
right favorite ones either.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
It's yeah, like it's not. It's not an it doesn't
fall into the review part. But I'm looking at that
Capcom Fighting Collection two thing and looking at cap Converse
sm K one or two, and I'm like, I don't
have this roster, like yeah, and the other rosters, the
S and K guys like oh, I know Terry Boguard, but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Yeah, Terry exactly, Mia and a few others. That's about it, right, Hey,
that game even waiting on for a while. GEXT Trilogy, yep,
at least it's June sixteenth for everything. It's getting a
two hundred dollars Vessel edition. You're gonna go, yeah, limit
and run.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Of course, they're all one hundred and fifty bucks of
tw dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
This gets a full soundtrack, a thirty six inch inflatable gets,
and a seven inch GEX statue and GEX trading card.
You can get all the gets you want right with that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Are you? I may get it? I mean if they
get some more money, possibly Uh, there's like another collector
position that's also like coming out around the same time.
You know, it's up for pre order. Yeah, I forget
what it was, but that also was kind of like
interesting me at someone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
All Right, you definitely gotta take pictures of that if
you get it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Yeah. Well I just got the one. I haven't opened
it yet, yeah, because it's like why bo you know,
I already had the game digitally, so why bother even
opening it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Right? But all right, the one cool news that happened
since the last time we did the show last week.
You know, last week we talked about Polygon essentially being
blamed out and taking out almost all their core staff
to get sold to Valnat, and then Giant Bomb was

(01:19:04):
kind of in disarray because Fandom was kind of like
restructuring what they wanted them to do. They had the
Giant the episode eight eighty eight, they got taken down
and then Jeff Grubb said he didn't want to put
it back up because of the way it you know,
there was some kind of cute see mentions of Fandom's
new policy. You know, they had to be kind of

(01:19:26):
squeaky clean all that stuff, and they made it a
whole big theme throughout the episode, and then turns out
that not too long after Giant Bomb was at Pase East,
they did a panel and they announced that Jeff Backaloon
and Jeff Grubb bought Giant Bomb from Fandom and then

(01:19:49):
the rest of like the Core crew, Dan Rocker, mcmnaughty
and co are all part owner and Jan are all
part it. They even had a kind of funny like
sponsor the first you know game mess return today, and
then Jeff was on kind of funny Gains Daily as well.

(01:20:14):
They're bringing back a bunch of shows and all that stuff.
Now they're gonna do quick looks again, which that have
been taken that be kind of gone that. I'm excited
for that. I always love their quick looks. Obviously. I
wonder how Jeff Gerson feels now that, Like he had
that whole soliloquy on his podcast for like forty minutes
talking about that and then now it's it's gonna be good,

(01:20:36):
good to go. I wonder if he's gonna make some
appearances or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I doubt it, you know, Tuesday, they've been doing his
own thing. But it's it's cool in theory, but who
knows how long it'll last. You know, they don't get
I don't know much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Yeah, their memberships went up to ten dollars, which is
also what kind of funny charges for their memberships. They
were five previously, So but now all the money goes
to those guys instead of going to fandom or whatever.
So you know that's a that's a positive too. You're
helping them directly, you know what do you uh Like,

(01:21:11):
I'm happy for them. I'm happy that it's still existing,
you know, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
See, I have no attachment to like any of those
except for like jam, like I don't want to do it.
Go ahead, but I'm probably not gonna subscribe to it
just because I don't know it's still the host like
ship of THESI is. So it's like, you know, I
have very little attachment to current giant bomb, right, and
then I can I get any of the old people
obviously could all do another ship.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah, I saw people that you know, we're kind of like,
oh well, how long until you guys are broke again?
And you know, haven't off to somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I have no ill will towards him, let's say that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
You know, Yeah, I want to see you know, Jeff
Crow's one of my favorite people to watch listen to.
He's always got you know, good thoughts on things, you know,
great insight, you know from the end street side of things,
and he's really consistent about what he does. So I'm
always happy to support all that. My issue is just

(01:22:10):
like I kind of I can do five dollars and
I've done that for like Last Stand, and I've done
it for like min Max and stuff when they were
doing the Rebirth like special series that they did. They're
doing one for Clear Obscure right now, but it's just
like I do it for like Acts of the Blood
God the RPG podcast, but that's like two dollars. But

(01:22:32):
like you know, when it gets to like ten, when
you're getting into like streaming service type territory. For me,
right it's difficult for me to like hand that over
because of having so many streaming services that I've subscribed to,
let alone PS Plus and then game Pass. You know,
I wish I could, but I personally won't. But I

(01:22:54):
really hope that a lot of people with the fans
that were very upset about them going down, and yeah,
for independent games media if you can, obviously, I'm glad
to see that those folks are are still continuing to exist,
you know, just the same with MX and kind of
Funny and Last Staying and all that. I'm happy that

(01:23:16):
all these places exist obviously, you know, as Outer Haven
is also independent games media, but it's a bit different
just because you know, we're still trying to be a site,
a website that does all the traditional game showals and stuff.
Whereas they talked about they're still trying to get They
have the keys, but they're still trying to figure out
the website stuff and they don't have people to just

(01:23:37):
run on the website. So like they're kind of thinking
about it, is the website still didn't exist, you know,
kind of funny kind of has they have a website,
but it's obviously not you know, there to be a website, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yeah, it's the same thing as gamers Nexus, Like yeah,
I think they have a site, but no one ever
goes to it or you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
It's like a portal to just like, oh, here's all
our stuff that you can find on you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
I think so, I think, I mean I think if
the site went away though, it would actually be a
real big wass. Like the problem is, like the site
itself got increasingly devalued as Giant Pond went on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Right bus because you have to have game Spot doing
the same thing essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
But I mean, you know, Jeff talked about like the
wiki last week, about how no one cared about except
for him, which yeah, I agree with. I mean I think,
like I think the first badge of people cared about it,
but as they hired on or you know, no one
else cared about it, right, And then even even without that, like,
there's still a ton of archival content on their video,

(01:24:45):
you know, videos, podcast stuff like that that they should
keep around.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Yeah, for sure, that that part is it's always good
to have like the back catalog there for the historical
sense of just being able to one of the longest
running video I mean there are ones that have been
around longer obviously, yeah, but I mean one of the
longest running, you know, to still be out there doing
that every week and then all the special shows they

(01:25:10):
do and everything else, I mean, that's that's great. So,
you know, props to fandom too, I guess for doing
that and letting them have their name and not trying
to give too much to a big company. You know,
but like they didn't have to do that, right. They
could have been assholes and just been like, oh, we
own this. You guys got to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
That's the thing though, is like I'm sure they just
looked at the balance sheet and go I'm like, well,
we can't we start this, and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Yeah, what would we what would have in the name
really do? Yeah, you know, you're just holding it hostage.
So but all right, I think that's unless oh wait,
we got to talk about yeah, Thunderbolts. Okay, so we're
not really gonna do spoilers per se. Uh, but if
you haven't seen the movie yet and you don't want

(01:25:57):
to hear anybody talk about Thunderbolts, I I guess you
know this is your time to oh well just really quick,
I guess, so we can finish all the video game stuff,
not talking about some of this video game related Uh,
just next week, Crafty is gonna be on. I'll put
a link to his switch and discord in the in

(01:26:19):
the podcast description and the YouTube description. He has a
great community if you want to go go check out
his discord with people that you know love games talk
about him. They do fun stuff that's not necessarily game
related as well. I'm gonna have him on next week.
You know, he's been really anticipating Doom the Dark Ages,
so get to get his thoughts on that, plus you

(01:26:41):
know mine, Uh then I'm you know, play I don't
Once it hit game would hit game Pass on the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Fifteenth, that game is going to be automatically disqualified if
the final bosses's head.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
We'll see. But yeah, that's the big game that's coming
this week for sure. I'm sure most of y'all I
know that already. But there's some other stuff coming as well.
The Yasha the Lens of the Demon Play, which is
like an action RPG Rogue Light that's like kind of
anime ish that's coming on the fourteenth. American Orcadia finally

(01:27:17):
hits consoles have to being on PC for a couple
of years. That's like a like neat like animated sort
of like a stab at Corporate America kind of narrative
game that's coming also on the fifteenth. The Capcom Fighting
Collection too that Mark's reviewed or been reviewing, yep, that

(01:27:41):
comes out on the sixteenth. That Calever sols A Limbo
that's coming on Game Pass, also coming to switch A
PC comes out on the sixteenth as well. So there's
some cool stuff. So yeah, but I'm sure everybody's playing
that doom getting ready for that. So yeah, excited to
have Crafty on that next week. But all right, from

(01:28:01):
now fear forward, I gonna be talking about Thunderbolts. So
if you don't want to hear us talk about it,
you can mow ze alone here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Uh, what did you What did you think about the
movie in general?

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
We talked about it online. I liked it except for
one part. Uh h. I think they did uh centily
like fairly well yeah, good action, you know, not a
ton of action, but it's decent. I really like. I mean,
I liked him as an actor, but I really liked
uh John Walker or Whyte Russell.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, movie he was really good. Coming from like totally
hating him after Falcon and Winter Soldier and thinking he
was like a you know hate yeah, just almost waste
of space or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
I never thought, like, I've always liked the guy as
an actor, so even when he's in that role, it's like, well,
it's still kind to me. He's always still kind of likable. Yeah,
but yeah, I thought it was you know, mostly good. Uh.
I know, what do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I liked it a lot, probably the best thing they've had,
way better than Captain America a Braveney world. But that's
you know, you didn't have to pass too much for
a borrow to get by that. Not that not that
it was bad, it was just it was fine, right.
I thought everyone was really good. Mars I actually technically

(01:29:22):
haven't seen the Marbles.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Still better than Quantum Mania.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
I didn't see the Marvels, but you're better off and
not seen Quantumania, trust me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
I liked the cast, you know, the whole group together,
I thought was really well done. Just I didn't really
know much about Ghost because I hadn't seen that man move,
and I really like I really ended up liking her
a lot by the end. Obviously, you know, they they
they kind of redeem everyone in this, And I thought
Jolena's portrayal in this was fantastic. Definitely they did her

(01:29:59):
justice like she's been in some of the other you know,
and obviously she had a big role in Black Widow,
but like she you know, Florence Pugh did a great
job and this, and then David Harber obviously was hilarious
as a Red Guardian. Uh really enjoyed him. He got
a lot of laughs out of my girlfriend and uh

(01:30:21):
of Anay as well during the watching this in the theater. Yeah,
I just liked it overall, just because Also the theme
of the movie was like, you don't see the marvel is.
They've had some you know, obviously sad moments and all
that kind of stuff. Obviously the snap when it happened
was you know, we knew that. Obviously they're probably all

(01:30:44):
gonna give broad back or whatever, right, but still it
was like that it was still like oh my god,
you know kind of thing, and it's just still like,
oh wow. They did the Void part of the century
like really really well. They really made it about oh,
this is about how to get the depression, how to
get through a bad time, you know, how to not

(01:31:05):
you know, put a deep down inside or whatever. And
the lesson came through and they did that well throughout
the entire movie. I love the part at the end
where you know that that happens, so like I thought
for the for the like getting the baseline from start
to finish, delivering that really well was was great and

(01:31:27):
I'm looking forward to Fantastic four now. Whereas like when
I got done with Raveney World and they said, oh,
the next one's Thunderbolts. I was like, okay, whatever. Now
it's like, oh, I want to see how this is
going to tie into that. Obviously there's a I don't
really I mean, it's I don't think it's a spoiler
really to say that, you know, they're the it's like

(01:31:49):
out of the marketing at this point. Yeah, the New
Avengers thing that they're the New Avengers. I know, that's
technically like not. I guess they're supposed to actually be
like the Dark Avengers, right or or some other they're
not really technically were the New Avengers the New Avenger
for something else, but they kind of gave them that
name for this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Feel like the Thunderbolts name in the comics, or you know,
it's a slightly different, slightly different like Team Origin and
then yeah, then becoming the New Avengers, you know, also different. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Well, I think overall the way they did it, I
love the this you know, the the ending scene that
the post credits one that kind of ties into the
desk before is what we're all done too. So yeah,
I mean, overall, I think it's definitely one of the
better Marvel movies to come out in a while, it
feels like they kind of went back to like at

(01:32:43):
least this Guardians three if you want to give it,
like you know, something like this actually could be like
another like Guardians type team where people were like latch
onto them and you didn't expect them to be kind
of popular. So yeah, it'd be cool if they you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Yeah, now I can spoil it, uh so ill, I mean,
I already told you again, but I told you what
I'll play again. I really hated how they got rid
of task Master. The problem is what like they got
the actress back, So going on to that, she was
only shown only one one shot of the movie, so

(01:33:21):
it's like, why about getting her back? Just do what
they did and fucking spider Man. Lavet spider Man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
And you know, and they had the I think the
co writer on like ign or something, and he said
like that was the biggest change like that he definitely
had yeah right out till the end or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Yeah, Like like the thing I saw was like she
was supposed to kind of be like still slightly brainwashed. Yeah,
and like most of the most of the movies, she's
still trying to kind of kill John Walker, like not overtly,
but you kind of slipped in and out of like
you know, a huge state or something. Yeah, and it's
like that would have been cool. And also, like you said,

(01:34:00):
you like Ghost and like I love the actress. I
actually I liked her for a long time. But you
didn't do you know a ton in this movie? Like no,
she didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Definitely had the smallest role.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah, Like I think the movie was like weirdly overstuffed,
but like also underdeveloped as well, Like, uh, like they
should have just had task Master like lived till they
basically the end and then you know I have sent
to kill her. Yeah, that would have been my you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Know they could have. Yeah, they could have done it
at that spot where right you know Century has that movement?

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Did you ever see, uh did you watch a ton
of Black Mirror?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
I've only seen like the first season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Look up, I mean I think you still have Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I want to say it's season two maybe season three? Uh,
because the guy who is John Walker and Ghost are
in an episode together. Okay, cool? See Okay, yeah's season three.
It's called play Test And like that's kind of where
I like I first noticed why at Russell because he's
a really like he comes to classics really well. On

(01:35:07):
episode Yeah, and yeah they're in it. They were they
were in like that episode is pretty good. Uh so yeah,
I just didn't like what they did sas Master. I
also don't like Julia we drefis at all.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
You don't, Okay, So her I think she does that
role well, I mean like that is kind of a
prototypical role for her, right, but I kind of understand,
like yeah, I mean honestly, this was kind of like
her the time where I felt like, Okay, are they
ever gonna have a time where she gets a moment

(01:35:42):
because it almost feels like, Okay, they've had her come
in and up and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Like Falcon Winter Soldier and I think like one other
one also, but she's in there for like a scene
and that's it, isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
She and uh she Hul or whatever once.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Or maybe I'm trying I'm actively trying to as she Hulk.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
So it's like I wonder if they're going to actually
have She Hope appear.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
When the weirdest cliffhanger ever. So yeah, I think because
I think I saw that like Marvel is now not
gonna do like famous characters or like the movie characters
and TV heroes except for the Vision series, but I
don't wrap up his character. Basically, uh, that's a good plan.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Well, and now they now they're gonna actually do like
multiple seasons or what like. They basically said that they
have season three of Daredevil like ready to go if
season two does well. So yeah, yeah, that's positive.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I saw the report today that like, oh uh, you know,
Amazon just renewed fallow Out for season three. It's like, yeah, no, shit, Like,
well they.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
I think who is the guy that plays Maximus. He
said that they have his character like, uh, storeboarded out
to like season five or six if it gets that far.
So hey, that's that's positive too, right. They have long
term planning with us. It's not like they're just kind
of just going as a whatever up with this stuff
for a season and whatever. It seems like they I'm

(01:37:08):
glad to see that they have plans for them. Yeah.
It seems like now that they have Kevin Faggey is
not like trying to do both. They have somebody that's
just in charge of the TV side. They kind of
figured this out and it's like, oh, we don't need
to try to do twenty shows, just do like three
or whatever, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
You know, only Star Wars look good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Learn to be fair. It's like Star Wars also doesn't
need to do the thing with Star Wars is actually
it works out better that way because I really don't
want them doing ten Star Wars movies or whatever that
they were planning. At one point they felt like, you know,

(01:37:52):
so if we're just gonna do like, okay, whatever the
next trilogy of movies is whenever that's gonna happen, and
then we're gonna like in the meantime, Okay, well it's
gonna be all this other TV show stuff, which Disney
said that that's kind of been working for them. It's
the Star Wars TV shows are for the most part
doing well. They just you know, I don't know if

(01:38:14):
it's a budget or Yeah. It's like they get the
one with and or and then they get like two
that that are kind of like get a cult following,
but not Explosion awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Either, Ahsoka too. You know that'll be a big hit,
but all right, but yeah is good. Yeah, Centers, But
I'm like, you've seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
So I have not I want to see it. At
this point, I made its way till it's on Max
or whatever. It's going to be one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I don't maybe I don't think it'll be leaving theaters
for at least a few more weeks. Like it seems
to be doing better and better kind of, I mean,
it's going down, but you know it's still It was
like the number two movie of the of them of
the week, I should say, so.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Yeah, I don't know what their deal is, but like
even Sonic was in theaters until like even the week
that it should have on Paramount Pulus, and then after
that that's when they pulled it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
But did you see I mean, yeah, it was hysterical.
They tried to put snow White back in the theaters
like a lot of theaters why and it made basically
fifty bucks per theater.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Nobody wants to see that thing. It was terrible. It's
not gonna stop from being terrible. What are you gonna
do to it? It's gonna make it all like it's
a bad movie. So the point where Disney is like
reconsidering doing any more live action movies that aren't some
cologne or you know, the only one at this point, honestly,
the ones that work are the ones that are about animals,

(01:39:47):
like LELOI, this is probably gonna do really well. I
wouldn't be a surprised, Like, you know, Mufassa came back
and did well or whatever after it didn't do so
hot at the beginning, right, Like the stuff that's about
not the princesses apparently seems to do well. Yeah so,

(01:40:08):
or I don't know, it's just I don't know, if
it's just snow White was just that terrible or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
But like none of their live action stuff as far,
you know, as far as like replicating like Cinderella or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
I think beating the beat only one that like got
critically loved, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Cinder was like the good one. I think beating the
Beasts even that was still kind of middling. But but it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Was also like when they first started doing it, so
it wasn't overblown at.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
That point, right, the live action version of Wally.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
That'll be uh we get to that point. Yeah, you know,
let's do the Black Holdren live action. So we don't know,
but all right, that's it for this episode this week.
Thank you everybody for watching, whether you watch live or
you listen later we later, We appreciate it. Go like subscribe,
follow all that, and we'll see you next week. Plant

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