Has Nintendo Lost Its Identity With Switch 2? # 439

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.
I am your host Sean Garmer here with me as usual,
mister Mark Morrison.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Alright, all right, well.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
We have a lot to talk about here on this edition.
As we've all, we've both been playing some games. So
I've been talking about I've been playing the Lunar Remastered Collection,
the first Lunar game. I'm like halfway through that. We got.
Mark got done with Dissassa's Creek Shadows, so he gets
to get final thoughts on that. He got finally could
talk about the playing the Capcom Fighting Collection number two. Also,

(00:54):
what else you been ain't Joe Jump? So yeah, we
got some stuff on the gaming front. We got the
Switch to us pre voters are finally got a date
again and that's gonna be on Thursday at midnight or
eleven am if you're trying to get it from game Stop.
So getting ready to be watching the clock, looking at

(01:16):
links when it goes live, all that fun stuff that
happens when you're trying to get a new console. We'll
talk about that. We'll talk about the Mario Kart Direct,
we'll talk about the Galaxy Showcase. We'll talk about the
Star Wars strategy game that got revealed as well. They
got a big thirty minute deal that Marco Pally got

(01:38):
more in depth on. We got what else in here?
Has Nintendo lost their identity? She hey, Yoshida seems to think,
so we'll talk about if they have or not, a
lot of that and more. Oh right, so let's go
ahead and get this out of the way. Here is
the housekeeping for today and actually going on at the

(02:02):
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(02:26):
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(02:50):
I don't think I did end up posting the link
last week, but go check out a Video Game Outsiders.
I was on the show a couple of weeks ago.
They do awesome stuff. And then on this Friday, I'm
gonna be on Video Game Happy Hour, which Crafty who
was like commenting on the show last week. They do
a great show, usually do it on live on Twitch,
and then it's on podcasts. Him and a few other

(03:13):
guys that were previously in the Video Game Outsiders, like Discord,
they had their own show actually on their app, and
then they kind of took it off and did their
own thing. So I'm gonna be on Friday talking about
Claar Obscure and whatever else has been going on our
Switch pre orders. So Mark, are you going to try
to pre order to Switch now that we know it's

(03:35):
not gonna be on Amazon at least for the first
try here?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, probably just because it'll be like, you know, if
I don't get it now, it's gonna go from Price.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think the one store I'm not gonna be going.
I'm probably gonna avoid Target, because I've heard that they
and I've had them do it to me. They canceled
the pre order that I did at one point. I've
heard a lot of horror stories about Target canceling pre
orders for other things.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
So that's happened with That's by But you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm probably gonna go with Walmart because that's who I
did the pre order with last time.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah. The problem with those is, like, you know, you
have to like basically buy it though, yeah, get in
there or you know, at least have the money in
your account.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Walmart, I think did that, like check where it does
depending and it was a way Yeah, and then I'm
game Stop. I'm gonna try. If I don't get it
with Walmart, I will try with game Stop in the
in the morning or whatever, and we'll see how that goes.
But let's go ahead and get into the video games. Uh, first,

(04:40):
the games we've been playing here. I guess, what is
your final thoughts on Assassin's Creed Shadows? How much long
you know you were in like what chapter three when
we finished?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I guess, Okay, Yeah, they don't specific chapters per se.
They claim they do, but don't, right, I mean, I
showed you this pictures that of those feer those circle things, Like, yes,
that's a lot. You know. I like the game overall,

(05:12):
now that I'm kind of done with it, like I
don't have much else to do, Like I guess you
could go capture some more castles or something, but like
you're getting it's not like territorial control, which is kind
of what I would want. Like it's amazing that sin
Andreas had better territorial control missions or the system than
the last eight Assassin's Creed games. But yeah, I liked it.

(05:36):
It has zero story in the present.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh zero, Okay, so it's none of the.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Five minutes in the in like the intro of these
two like AI programs talking to each other, and then
you occasionally find what they call it corrupt the data
clusters or something, and it's just like emails there. It's
just like no between characters or just you know, almost
like newspaper clipping or something like that. But you can't

(06:04):
even exit exit in the main game, but you have
to like bounce to the main menu and then like
go to this like secret menu, and that's where you
see it. And it's like, why can't you see this
tough normally like would that be a problem or but
that's weird.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
They didn't want to dedicate like any resources.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Really, Yeah, the game has some UI funkiness, like they added, uh,
you get a lot of gear in the game, and
they had a big patch like a few weeks ago,
and they foundly added the ability to like mark and
delete crap like basically market as junk and then sell it.
And like within a weekday they removed the function because
it was a crash in the game because like people

(06:43):
are like selling fifty swords at a time and the
game was not meant for that. Yeah. Wow, but and
it's still not back in like people want it. But
it's like yeah, because you're getting like level you're getting
like purple and blue swords that you're never gonna use
again or never use at all. But I like the
game overall the year so far.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
We forgot to talk about Elastic But did you see that,
you know, with all the craft that's been hurled their way, Uh,
the their number two best selling game of the year,
Like yeah, really first month.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well it's really not surprising. I mean what else they
got going on Star Wars or you know, some rapid games.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
No, no, no, I'm talking about for the entire year.
This year so far, Sassa Cry Shadows is the number
two behind Monster Wild the number two game.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I would say, it's not surprising. Yeah, Like, I mean
it's early in the year though, so you know, wait
until Madden comes out, wait until FIFA what the hell
they call on it, and wait until Call of Duty.
But yeah, I can see it being like the top
ten game of the year as far as like sales go.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Sure, yeah, no, I mean that's one thing I think
people need to look at it with a caveat is
uh Crafty kind of getting into a discussion over it
on his discord about how it's like they're kind of
just grasping at straws and blah blah blah, and I
was like, listen, it doesn't matter if at you know,
six months from now it's no longer number two, right. Yes,

(08:16):
they're not going around talking about it like Capcom has
with Monster Hunter Wilds. But Assass's create is a huge franchise.
When you already have a game like Monster Hunter Wild's
coming out and just decimating everything, you getting two million sales,
it's really not something to go boasting about. I would say, right, Like,

(08:40):
I guess that's why they're going around saying they have
too million players, but maybe they don't have even two
million sales. I would imagine if they'd already sold like
Assassa's Creed. Getting a million sales in week one is
not a big deal for Gbisoft, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I mean it kind of is though now,
because there are a lot their games don't get big sales,
like and that franchise has been pretty hit or missed
over the past few games as well. So it's the
same thing about like I look at it as almost
at the same thing about TV ratings like or like
box office returns like Center. You know, Center's just got

(09:22):
sixty million, and everyone's like, oh, that's great, but it's like,
well mate, I mean it costs over eighty and it
had a lot a big marketing budget behind it. I mean,
it'll make its money back for sure, but it'll take
a while.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like yeah, well, definitely probably make us money back by
the time it gets out of theaters.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
But it's just a problem also like it's a uh,
you know, too many options.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I mean, Minecraft movie is still out there getting
a bunch of bunch of money, So ill thought Minecraft
Movie later, but you know this, it kind of improves. Again. Look,
it's good that we have options, right, but when you
have like something that's a behemoth that kind of got

(10:08):
this ground twelve support too, doesn't help when you people
show videos of the the scene inside theaters and people
are doing crazy stuff and they're like, I kind of
wonder you're part of that. You know, it's probably not
gonna have it in my theater now, but I want
to go see the movie now. It's also like increase
the maybe not sales because like who doesn't have Minecraft
at this point, but at least like people playing the

(10:29):
game like thirty five percent.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
So yeah, yeah, I can buy it for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's it's just one of these like I look, it's great.
I think it's great. For Assass's Creed. It's still like
the number two was the number two fastest selling or
most pre ordered Assass's Creed, so you know, and they
have a long history of games with some you know,
great sales on that for them to have those numbers, yes,

(10:57):
everybody wants those hard sales numbers. Been Honestly, the way
Ubisoft is going right now, they don't really need to
rush it, like they have a quarterly thing that they
got to go talk at, and why not just say
it there when you have the most up to date
numbers possible to just be like, man, we sold this much,
Sassacree Shadows. It's the only game that we have going

(11:18):
on right now besides DLC if they announced for Star
Wars Outlaws and whenever Outlaws comes out for a switch
to number and all that. So like this is their
main game, the main game that they've been like making
sure is the one that sells or does well for them.
I don't know if this is going to be the
determinant whether or not they finally go through with that

(11:42):
side company or whatever, but obviously it does help. But
this is like their last hurrah as far as like,
if this doesn't do well, we definitely got to go
shed that that Ubisoft name and start somewhere, start new.
So well, we'll see. I'm glad you liked it, you know,
do you have like a ranking of where it lands

(12:04):
for you as far as Assassa's creed.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Or i'd said probably pretty high. I still I mean
probably like Brotherhood at a C four, Valhalla are better,
maybe even even a C two, But it's better than
like Mirage. I'd say it's better than Origin and Odyssey,
better than three you know, so i'd say I'm pretty
positive on it. But it's still it still has some issues, right,

(12:28):
so you know, we'll see and it's like, you know,
they'll keep working on it, probably because what else going on.
And they got I know they have like DLC coming
on the on the pipeline, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
For sure we know that's coming. Yeah, So how goes
the uh Indiana Jones Good Bay Station five?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I got a few days ago from the ends. Uh,
I've been playing a pretty pretty a lot or you know,
like I'm up to the third area this like Siberia
or Himalayas.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Wow, so you're already through the Vatican already.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Do like ag.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah yeah, and then now.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
You're wow, I'm not like percent in those areas.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay. That's the next time I was gonna ask you,
was like, so are you doing like the main like
and then.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm doing what I find Okay, I'm doing a fair
amount of side missions and like I finally did one
of the missions where it's like, oh, clicked all these
ancient relics and Giza and I had a mat for
that at least, so I was like, Okay, I can
do this, but I'm finding myself very So there's experience
points and money and experience points. Uh. You can find

(13:38):
or buy books and they give you like basically a
talent like oh, now your whip can disarm guys, or
now you punch harder. I have a fair amount of
skill points, and it's not like you get like one
skill point, you know, it's like, oh, the punch harder,
you gotta spend five hundred points and it's like that's
no problem. Like and you get points from like you know,

(14:00):
doing quest photograph and stuff, doing sidequest crap like that.
I don't have a ton of cash in the game.
That's where it's kind of breaking for me. So it's like, oh,
it's like in the Vatican, it's like, oh, you can
buy this book or buy this map that here are
all the medicine bottles to fined. It's like, yo, that's
that's eight hundred, that's six, you know, six hundred dollars.

(14:21):
I got like four hundred, you know, or you know,
I don't. You don't find a ton of money in
the game, which I haven't yet. So that's what slowed
me down. So, uh, I like it. I don't think
it's one hundred percent. I like it, but it's not
one hundred percent clicking with me necessarily, Like you've put
it right.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah I didn't get past Egypt, but yeah, sure I
found a game kind of JANKI in spots like I
was stuck in an enemy base in Egypt and it's
just like big base with a big sense around it.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
So it's like, Okay, I don't want to run to
the entrance because I'm and have like my cred suit
the disguise, so they know who I am and they're
just gonna like shoot me or fight me. Right, So
it's like, okay, how can I do How can I
do this? Can I like hop on a There are
like little buildings like dotting the inside of the fence,
So I'm like, can I happen to hop in a building,

(15:18):
get to the roof and just jumped over the fence.
And it's like you you think you could do that,
but you can't. I spent a half hour trying to
do this right.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
It wants you to do it with a disguise and
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's like a point that it's it feels almost very
restricting in a sense because they clearly want you to
do this, and it's like, yo, I got why should I?
You know, like their.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Freedom comes more in the combat, Like you don't have
to use a gun, right like you can just.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I basically have except for so like the first time
I actually try to, I use my gun like once,
and I alerted the whole damn base and basically like
had a hide real quick and wait till they all
went yeah. But there's an early boss fight like right
after right after in the Vatican where you fight this
big Tony Todd, the guy, giant guy, and I'm like,

(16:12):
all right, I got a gun. I've been collecting bullets,
like I got like eighteen shots. Let's pull this gun
out and treat this guy now like Andy just like
reloads the gun. You know, you're just spost to like
fake like fighting normally. Why like I have a gun,
like what you know they should have just like had
the scene where like the Tony Todd like not your

(16:34):
gun away, so you don't have it at all, as
opposed to me pulling the gun out and then me
just like uselessly reloading it, you know, for ten.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Then realizing that it's not going to do anything.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah. It's so it's like, oh God, couldn't you just like, yeah,
I programmed like a slightly better logical reason for not
having the gun, you know. Uh yeah, kindbat's fun. Uh.
I also wish you get there might be a skill
point later on or skill thing like melee weapons. Is
the game incredibly brittle? Yeah, most stuff has three uh

(17:10):
durability points and if you if you do a stealth takedown,
it takes it ball three and the larger weapons, like
the larger items have six. So it's like, oh, you
can do two two stealth takedowns and that's it. It's
like that's not a lot.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Like not to be fair, they do give you like
a lot of different things that are weapons.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but I'd rather just they just have it like
Indiana just finds like a blackjack or finds like some
metal baseball bat that's somehow indestructible and just carries out
with them. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I'm surprised they didn't do the typical you know, weapon wheel.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah thing, but and I almost like never used the web.
I forget it. I have it most of the time. Yeah,
but I like it. It runs fine. Uh, you know,
what you expect. Uh, you know, good acting. I like
the uh, I mean, you played it enough of it.
I like the priests from the first part of the game,
the Vatican Antonio. I like that actor, so I'm like,

(18:09):
I recognize that dude. Oh yeah, that is him. Uh yeah,
good game or I don't know if I'll finish it
by next week, but you know, I'll probably keep playing
it and i'll play it right after that. None of
this all right.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, I'm glad you've been enjoying. I was wondering if
you were going to get to play it and then
what you would think.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, on that, I mean it reminds me of like
des X kind of. And then also Chronicles a Ritic
Escape from Butcher Bay.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
That chronicle I got advised from for Chronicles of critics
playing it.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Wait until and he gets his own eye shine job.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well let's see if you know the anticipation and you
playing at others playing on a PS five leat it's
the sales of Microsoft once yeah, you know. And then
they've got for the Horizon coming on Friday as well,
so they got a double PlayStation.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'd like to play that, but I'm buying they'd be
like my third time buying that game, so no, thank you,
but you have it on Steam. I have it on
Steam and also have it on Xbox like PC. The
I bought it first on there because it wasn't on
Skiing Game the Steam.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Finally, you don't think Jens might biases he doesn't have
He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
He doesn't racing games at all.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
There's one racing game that definitely go play four as
the Horizon five. That's the one. Well, speaking of fighting things,
Capcom Fighting Collection too. How is it?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So it has eight games in it? I don't think
I can talk about two of them. I don't think
I can talk about Powerstone and Capcom Fighting Evolutions. I
can talk about the other six. Uh that game is weird. Ah.
So it has Powerstone two uh two cap Converse S
m K games, which I'm not a huge S and

(20:01):
K fan personally, so that kind of means nothing to me.
Plasma sorbs have never played either. And then it has
Project Justice and Street Fighter Alpha three Upper and those
where I'm spending most of my time and those where
I'm having issues. So Power Strong is a great, great
fighting game, but and this is the problem with Alpha

(20:23):
three as well. They didn't include the right version because
these are all like the Arcade version of these games,
and at least they have a training mode kind of
where it's just like a you know, a dummy or
you know, just testing how your combos out and stuff.
But like some of these games need to kind of
introduction or need more of like a tutorial, like Project

(20:44):
Justice because it has some really weird esoteric shit going on,
like with the you know, character swapping or character tagging
in or you do like you step in and out
of the stage because it's a three D game phenomenally,
like it's more or less two D. And then Powerstone,
I mean Powers Prejudice has like the most bewildering story

(21:08):
mode and a fighting game ever. Or it's like you
can like pick us pick a uh a school, and
I took your team, so it's like, oh, Pacific High
is like Tiffany Roy and bald dude. If it doesn't
uh start, but it's like, oh, if you just progress

(21:30):
to the story, ah, you can get one ending, but
it's like, oh, if you lose on like match three,
it splits off in like this other ending and you
face like other you know, other characters or stuff like that.
So looking at the achievement for this thing, it's like, oh,
get get Project Justice three, Project Justice High School second ending,

(21:52):
and it gives you a little fans it gives you
a little hint like, oh, you know, do two team
of attacks and you know stage two or something. Because
it didn't, you be screwed entirely. But that that's a problem,
Like it's just weirdly. You know, some of these games,
I don't even saw them in an arcade, let alone
playing any of them, so some help put them in nice.

(22:14):
And then the two other issues are Projectice specifically, are
it doesn't Rival Schools, which I'm going to continue to
bang out about because y know it should.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And then I wonder if they're leaving it for a
potential fighting collection.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Thing they shouldn't, like they should ditch. I mean this
is basically the Dreamcast version, like Dreamcast collection of fighting games,
because all this crap, you know as a Dreamcast during
an Onmi hardware, But who gives a fuck about Plasma Sword, Like,
ditch it and put in Rival Schools and hey, it's

(22:49):
gonna look like ass because you know it's a nineteen
ninety eight arcade PS one game. But who cares people,
I'd rather have you.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
I think it's like a licensing thing. As far as
why they didn't do the console versions.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Or no, I think it's strictly like they have an
emulator that can run dream Run Naomi hardware, and these
are the files they have. Like building in something extra
would take more work. And that's the other well, the
two main problems Project Justice when it came out and Dreamcast,
specifically the Japanese version. It had this really cool board

(23:26):
game where you could like create your own character and
like power them up to this like board. It's almost
like Mario Party or you know, but good. And they
didn't bring into America because it would have cost. It
was you know, it was a bunch of Japanese, so
they would have had to translate it and stuff that's
gotten easier in the past twenty five years. I mean

(23:49):
I wouldn't say do it. You know, have some machine
Ai translated. But it's not hard to translate stuff anymore.
Guys like you could bring it over. It ain't hard, Yeah,
So I would have had I would have rather had
that version or you know, had that as like an extra.

(24:10):
The real problem those Alpha three they have just the
Arcade version of Alpha three, and it's like, yo, there
have been a lot of other better versions of Alpha
three out there, like the PS one version, yeah, the
Dreamcast or even I mean, hell, they put an xbo
A version Alpha three, like Iron Galaxy did it have

(24:32):
those versions as well? And it's like if you don't
want to, I can understand, and then I want to
do like Network Coach for all that crap. Like I
completely understand it. If you just want to have Alpha
three upper have the like be the network or the
online version, that's fine. But like, especially the PS one
version of Alpha three had a bunch of really cool
stuff in it, like a world tour mode, edit mode,

(24:59):
other like hidden ca characters, unlockable characters, stuff like that.
And this is like the most like bare bones Alpha
three to get. And it's like always like the latest
Arcade revision or whatever from you know, eighteen years ago
or something. But it doesn't have Evil Ryo in it,
I don't think, or you know, it doesn't have a
lot of other trap from like the PS one version.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Sorry you're gone. Well, would you say that it's pressed
to forty dollars? Would you say it's still worth getting
even though it doesn't have it only has version.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I would say Project Justice. It's kind of worth it alone.
And while I can't specifically talk about Powerstone one, uh,
Powerstorm one and two hold up more or less? Uh,
so it's worth it for that. Anything like Alpha three
or if you're a big cap you know that's okay
fan absolutely, because those are the poor bastards have been

(25:51):
waiting for decades for a new game.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Is there anything new added to any.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
They have like the soundtrack soundtrack thing, and they have
you know, gallery for all the games they can finally
get that higher as Tiffany or you won't even want,
or that everyone really wants. Alpha three, though, has like
so each game has its own little metal system or
own a little trophy system, so it's like, oh, you
beat the game with Ryu or you beat the game
with you know whatever. Alpha three has a survival mode

(26:22):
and a dramatic battle mode and a final Battle mode,
and I think the final battle mode is just like
fighting like the end boss, like just that's it, like
one kind of one and done. And thank god the
button commands are in the in the game, because I
had like no idea about any of this crap, because

(26:43):
like I just played the PS one version and the
PS one version just like an option for Dramatic Battle mode.
It's like, no, you gotta like hold start and then
press you know, both kick buttons at the right time,
and then you'll enter dramatic Battle mode. Why couldn't it
just make this like an option.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
On PS five?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, okay, I you know, doing this like weird hidden crap,
Like this isn't like fun and for like the other games,
like all the other fighting collections, like you know, the
Marvel one, It's like that had some hidden stuff, like
Marvelrus Capcom one had like hidden characters and shit, but
like I haven't they made it easier to put to

(27:21):
like find that stuff. Just like, isn't an option in
the menu to like make it easy. This doesn't have
that really. Uh So it's like, yeah, you're gonna be
hunting around to some of this and it's a butmmer.
You know, if this game had like Rival Schools and
proct Justice and they translated Rival Schools correctly, it would
be awesome. This is you know, I would hardly recommend it,

(27:42):
but like it's it's all right, but I think it's
like way more niche than even their past collector, right, Like,
imagine if they put out like a collect or, you know,
just like street Fighter two.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Which they did, then they do like a street Fighter
Collection Anniversary collection.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well I know, I yeah, but if they just included
like the like the basic steed Fighter two, just eight characters,
not Turbo, not super speed Fighter, not hyper Fighting. You know,
there's been like nine different versions of freet Fighter two
out there. Right now, this is a street Fighter two.
You know, you can't even plays with the new Warriors.
It's just you know, the first eight here you go,

(28:22):
I guess, but there are other better versions of this
thing out there.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't rule out the Capcom I do,
like DLC.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I would. I think he's pretty much like one and done. Yeah,
I think, you know, I think, like you said, it
would be like Capcom Fighting Collection three. You know, I'll
have like rival Schools and like the really weird if
you can of another darks Talkers game or you know, Techromancer.
I don't think they did that, but you know it's
like you know, the really weird stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah,

(28:54):
they did do techro.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Mancer in the first one, I think, right.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Okay, ah, but yeah, it's just it would have been
nice if they had a few other other editions of
the thing, certain games, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think it's also because it did in the first
one also only had the arcade.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, but like I said, like the first game, the
first collection, most of those games didn't have any arcade
or didn't have home courts or because like it'd be
like if if Namco somehow made like a Soul Caliber
collection and it is included every version of the like
the old Arcade Soul Calber game, and it's like, right,

(29:33):
this this thing gonna be bad because like Soul Caliber
and the Dreamcast was a much better game than Soul
Caliber in the Arcade, or you wouldn't get like the
Soule Caliber two Wing or respond or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
That's just my take. I mean I don't know. I
got another month's to review it.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
So there you go. When is the game coming out
in May May sixteenth? I think, w wow, that's a.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I've had the game for like two weeks too, so.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You would like do they want you to play? And
they have games they don't want you to talk about,
so it's like okay, so I don't even see the
point of so like you can so the embargoes up
for you to review it or you have to wait
till yeah, okay, just to preview it. Okay, yeah, interesting,
all right? Uh so I mentioned I might go and

(30:31):
get the Lunar Collection. I did do that, I was.
I got it on Switch. So now I have three
old games that I've bought are well. I bought the
Sweakening Collection on Switch. I bought z Blade Chronicle Sex
Definitive on Switch, and now I have this on Switch
as well. So I've played like fifteen hours of Lunar one.

(30:54):
I never played either one of these games, by the way.
Uh so, yeah, it's a wonderful jerrapyg comfort food with
a heck of a I love the old school like
I was right back into like nineties anime feel with
the whole thing is the cut scenes are just like
every time there's a new character, here we go with

(31:15):
a animated f m V.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
They in the character the dragon or yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well I loved it. I was like, all right, this
is this is cool, you know, like it's just they
they kept that. I love that they kept all that
in there. They didn't try to like it's remastered, right,
but they also didn't try to uh spruce it up
too much, you know, so it definitely still feels like the.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I know, the two things they did. It's a it's
a new.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Script, new script with voice. Yeah, it's not everything is
voice by the way. Also it's not like everything yeah, yeah,
it's only certain scenes and then obviously the FMV right
things like that. But it's still you know, it looks
like a PS one game. They didn't try to do
any of that. But yeah, I've been enjoying it. The

(32:09):
music's great. Uh the you know, Darth Saw was what
it was back then. But it's still uh, you know,
just your typical JERRPG turn based battle system with you know,
a kind of interesting way of the way that they
do the attacks. It does have auto battle and you
can speed up the battle so like X three or

(32:31):
whatever as well, so that helps out.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So they're not going to ye didn't have that so
imagine some of this game, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, because it's really like if you try to do it, like,
it's really slow. And they do have the option for
you to when you go to the menu, it does
have the option to play as the classic version as well.
Like Mark was mentioning with them finding collession. It's not
like this is the only version. They have the original
versions of the game, both games included, So if you

(33:02):
want to go back and play it the way it
was without some of the remastered stuff, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
But I'd be curious, uh, I mean, I guess you can't.
You specifically can't answer this, but like, which version do
they consider the original one? Is it, you know, the
PS one version or is it the Segacy version?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I guess I can find that out what we're talking
about it.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
But no, I mean, I imagine it's a PS one version
because you know, the Segacy version is a little rougher
for sure, but it's cool it's in there. I mean,
I I'd probably play that one just because you know,
I know it more and high like dead voice acting better.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, the and it does help. We'll have it like
a different languages as well. So, like, the only thing
that bothered me is that my joy Con, my left
joy Con has drift yep. So when you go to
the beginning of the menu, it always starts out with
the do you want to choose the original version of
the remastered version of which game? You want to start

(34:09):
out with and then if you press right or left
it will change the language. So I've had it start
up the Japanese version like three or four times, and
then I have to exit out of it and turn
it back on and do it again, and I'm just like,
damn it stupid, right, Okay it is the Sega CD

(34:32):
ever looks like Okay, but yeah, look, I think if
you're a j RPG historian person that loves playing old
RPGs or just loves having them, right, I think this
is perfect. It's only it's fifty, it's not sixty or seventy. Also,
so there's the price cut there, and it's two pretty

(34:53):
good games that it seems like from the seventeen hours
or so I put in the Lunar one. These aren't
long games.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
So you know, ah, how many how how many characters
do you have them? Number one? Let me ask you that,
like you have a mage mage guy or.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
So I've gotten all the way to the part where
you have to go back to your hometown with one
of the hero people. Yeah, I'm trying not to spoil
it for people that I want to play through it.
I've only I've met like so like, there's characters that
will show up and then they don't show up again

(35:33):
at least I've never seen them again. Right, But I've
like I've got the fight with like a three or
four different characters. I've met the Mage guy right, the
Nash and then obviously Luna, Ramus and uh, you're an
Alex are the main three. But then Ramus doesn't say

(35:53):
in your party for two hours, which is fine because
he's he's not great and yeah, so like the I
have the Mage guy with then he left again because
he has to take care of somebody again trying to
I imagine, So it was how much they have him talking.

(36:13):
I imagine Jessica also comes back, the White Mage, and
then you know, you have I have Gallleon and my
party right now, and he's just he's supposed to be
a hero, so he's just whooping everybody. And then you know,
so I've gotten to that part where we're kind of
trying to we're trying to get to the meet the
Dragon again or whatever, and That's where I'm at. So

(36:37):
you know, the whole story is that Alex is trying
to become the Dragon Master. You have to read the
Four Dragons, and I think it's cool that the way
it started with, You're like, you're essentially meeting a dragon
at the beginning of the game. Uh, and then they
kind of just it gives you this like good cool
feeling of like the scale of its like, here's the dragon.
He's your screens going up and you're seeing him. And

(36:58):
I love the writing in the game to this story
has some really funny moments, even with the dragon at
the beginning, he's like, do you realize that this diamond
that you try to find is And they literally says
that they did edit out some stuff, that there's some
things that have been changed that with people are upset
about whatever. It's like, listen, people got remember when these
games are made. Translation is different back then, worst tizlations

(37:21):
back then than today. And also, come on, do we
really need to have the R word in a game
in twenty twenty five? We don't. Okay, you can get
mad about the fact that it's not in there, but
should have been in there from the beginning, So you
can get mad, but let's be honest, it's not censoring,
it's just making it so you know, other all kinds

(37:42):
of people can all families and stuff. I can play
this game that they want. You know, it's not why
would that's stupid to have a game that just coming
out and you're feeling like you got a censor from
kids or whatever. So yeah, I just wanted to make
a point about that, but been enjoying it. Let me
see if I get any further. I'm gonna try to
see if I can play some more before I get

(38:03):
to the twenty fourth and then I won't play anything
with Claire obscure, so we'll see. We'll get there. But yeah,
that's it for the games. So we've talked about about
games on this episode, so all right, let's go ahead
and talk about some Nintendo switch to stuff as did
you watch this Mario Kart World direct there?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Because I'm just not in it.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Let's be honest, folks, I don't really know that I
saw anything that tells me this game needs to be
eighty dollars. But whatever, it is what Nintendo is charging
for that game, so you know, what can we do
about it?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I still don't know that the free roam thing is
this amazing thing that they keep talking about. I guess
I'll see when we get to the actual game how
free roaming it actually is. I do think it's cool
that you're gonna have a four player split screen with
the single switch to console, and you could do local
wireless up to eight players, and then eventually, obviously you

(39:07):
can do the twenty four players online, which that's that's
obviously a leap for this console to do. They do
have new moves and the charge jump where you can
jump over stuff and jump on the grind rails, which
they should in the first trailer. You can you can
get the outfits for the different characters instead, and like,
instead of getting weapons or whatever, you might get an outfit.

(39:32):
A lot of the cool the new circuits look cool, right,
So there's that. It's just it's Mario Kart. So look,
if you haven't like me, I have not. I didn't
get the new when they dropped those courses or whatever.
I didn't buy that. I didn't buy that deal, all right,

(39:53):
So I'm not Mario carted out. But I wonder if
there's people that have been playing that game, like not
on stop, or they've been playing it a lot, maybe
Mario Kart. Seeing Mario Kart now is not that exciting
to you because you've been literally seeing Mario Kart constantly,
So it does I think it's one of those times

(40:15):
I'm gonna really have to like see it on my
TV for me to be excited, I guess because I'm
not really getting to see much of what makes this
awesome right now just watching it compress YouTube video, so right,
I wonder if Nintendo will eventually, like once they get

(40:36):
past like the Launch games and maybe they get more
games that are like four K. I wonder if they
will start releasing like four K versions on YouTube or whatever.
That would be kind of interesting to see if they
start doing that. But look, there's other Nintendo stuff that's
I think a bit more important that you know, you

(40:56):
either watch that Mario Kart thing or he didn't, and
Mario Kart is Mark Kart. Right, I'm I'm gonna get
that game because it's something I can play with my daughter,
and especially now that we know we can use the
old Switch Pro controllers. I can just hook up both
the joy cons into the grip and I can use
the pro controller. Then we could both play and that'll

(41:17):
be fun. Like I'll be excited to play that with her,
but I will be much more excited about Metro Prime
or Beyond the Pokemon or some other game that comes
with that. But speaking of Switch too, we know that
we're gonna have the pre orders again set for April
twenty four, so I guess everything just happy. We have

(41:38):
the FBC Firebreak showcase on the twenty fourth, we have
the Player Obscure coming on the twenty fourth, and we
have the Switch to pre orders coming out twenty fourth.
I'm sure there will be something else and now so
the twenty fourth as well before we get through this week.
But so as of now, I think it's Target and

(41:58):
Walmart have both announced that midnight on the twenty fourth
they will be pre orders. Best Bio technically has not
announced that they're doing midnight. They are doing midnight release,
so if you do pre order, you can go on
release night. And game Stop is also doing it. You
can go at twelve oh one and go get your
console in person. Game Stop is doing eleven I wonder

(42:22):
where game Stop chowse to make your way to eleven
am Eastern.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
When the store is open. Yeah. Ye, the talent will
come in the store more than yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
They did say you can go in person as long
as well as online to reserve, So you know, if
you're like I still think that, like, if you can
go in person and reserve. That's smart because you can
do the paying piecemeal thing. You don't have to You
just put the certain amount down, which it usually is

(42:54):
fifty dollars for the console, and then you can pay
however you want before you get to June. Even though
you're not going to have the as big a window
as they would have had if they would have gone
on the ninth, but still at least they're they're giving
you a little bit of window. The bad it is
going to stay the same price. So I've now decided

(43:15):
I'm just going to get the standalone console because I'm
pretty sure the Mario cart World bundle will be scalped
to hell, right, and I really don't at this point,
Like you know, I think I actually have thirty dollars
on my switch to on my regulars on the Nintendo account. Yeah,
after I bought Lunar, I think I realized I had

(43:37):
like twenty five. So I'm just gonna buy the just
the game digitally when I get the switch to or
whatever the bad thing is. This is where the price
increases have come in already. Now. To be fair, I
will point out that they said I think like three
times in this announcement that at launch it will call

(44:00):
this amount four. They did not rule out that at
any point after the launch they will raise the price.
And according to a source within uh SO, a video
Game MYSELFE also has in their app, they have a
guy that owns his own game store and he's owned
it in like I think it's the Ohio Cincinnati, Ohio area.

(44:24):
He's owned it for like I think twenty years, and
he said according to a source that apparently Tony is
not going to be alone and raising the price of
their console. Microsoft will also be raising the price at
the Xbox.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
So even though Microsoft could eat the Microsoft is more
has more money to eat.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But you don't need eat by the console Xbox is anything.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
That's That's the thing I don't understand is like if
people are not really buying your console that much, so
you really need to raise the price on it. But
you know, it is what it is with with with
but so I would say that, Yeah, the thing where
it's going to hit you the most is the accessories.
So if you don't have any original switch accessories that

(45:12):
you have around because you wanted to trade in everything
that you have to get a switch to or at
least get cash to be able to pay for your
switch to the pro controller is now eighty five dollars
instead of eighty. The switch to DOC is one hundred
and twenty instead of now. Honestly, this is really just

(45:34):
like privileged, Like if you really need another switch to DOC,
I don't. I don't know why you And I guess
if you have two houses and you need to have
or you have two rooms and all you want to
have to do is be able to put the switch
down in one and then take the switch out and
not have to remove the dock, I guess whatever. But yeah,
that's one hundred and twenty dollars instead of one hundred

(45:55):
and ten dollars. The joy Cons are now not ninety
dollars yep, So basically, good lord, no, not ninety ninety
five dollars. Excuse me? Uh yeah, ridiculous almost basically with
tax one hundred dollars for if you want any extra
joy Cons. Yeah yeah, with that family console like that,

(46:22):
the joy Con two wheelset costs twenty five dollars. Basically
everything went up five bucks. Essentially, the camera now costs
fifty five geez. Yeah, So just get ready, just get ready,
if you are one of those people that are just
getting rid of all your switch when accessory, you can
be paying a bunch of money. Maybe don't do that.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
You know damn what you can just get for just
the switch and like a few things, keep some of
your other things because you get dang man, the price
on this thing is gonna go quick as farther accessories go.
Maybe that means more accessories will be available, because you know,
I don't think the scalper's gonna go nuts for this
stuff when they know peop aren't going to buy it.
But yeah, we'll see. Also, thanks to a third party publisher,

(47:08):
we have now have confirmation completely of what the switch
To edition key cards are going to be. So according
to Marvelous, who's doing the Nintendo Switch To edition of
Room Factory Guardians of a Zuma, the switch To Edition
is going to be a red remember the switch To editions,
and the key cards will have the red on top

(47:31):
of it, yeah instead of the regular right. This is
going to have a sixty four gigabyte game card that
includes in full the Nintendo Switch game and the upgrade pack.
There is no need to download the full game simply
insert the card into either a Nintendo Switch or Nintendo
Switch to console, and the correct version will launch automatically.

(47:53):
So it will be like the series the smart Delivery
thing for Xbox. You don't have to download anything. It
will play off the cart you just and it will
know automatically what system it's in. So that's cool. Does
that give you that make you wanna buy more physical

(48:13):
stuff for Switch too? You know if knowing that these
things have like a smart chip in them or what.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I said, the first thing they're gonna do is Gami
slash characters in the switch to and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I hope it doesn't like break your act.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
That'll actually like the orbital targeting, and then this will
just drop to my house or something.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
It's like we found out you put in the splash cart.
You're going to jail right now?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah? Hey, look that's cool. I'm I'm very happy for
the people that love to buy stuff physically. Uh that
it means that your cart will work as intended. You
don't have to download something off of the now. Look,
and not all of them are gonna work that that.
I'm pretty sure that call of duty whenever it does
show up on switch is not going to have the

(49:05):
whole thing on the cart. I'd be very surprised their
Fantasy seven remake, especially maybe not remake, but especially rebirth.
Whenever it shows up, it will not be all on
the cart. Tell you that right now, So just just
get ready. You will download stuff. But that's cool that
this does work against supposed just really quick because we

(49:25):
have something that ties into Doug Bowser Here, Doug Bowser
answers her question over the concern of no Mario at launch.
He just says that, look, we have a long, long catalog,
a long list of IP I'm sure it will make
us way to the platform. It's coming. We know it's coming.
I wouldn't be surprised if the June direct ends with Mario,

(49:51):
now that you know all those launch games or Launch
Window games will have launched at that point. For the
most part, he does say that he pretty much expects
the most, pretty much most Nintendo IP will come over
to switch to What do you think how long do
you think do you think for sure it's coming before

(50:12):
we get out of this year?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
No, no, early next year.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, because they got that hot new Donkey Kong and
Kirby game this year, So.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well, Donkey Kong is like what June.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, and Kirby's are at the same time.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Did they announce their release date for air Rides or
whatever they working? No, air Rides is not a launch
game because they didn't even give a release date for
that thing. The launch game is the uh where the
Forgotten worlds with the DLC. Okay, yeah, sorry, but I
mean they don't have that. I think pokeon Pokemon might

(50:52):
be the only like, uh fall game, and then that's
it because uh Metros coming like pretty quick after which
Sea launches. So I'm still gonna go with the bet
that Mario is a November that's the fall game for
switch To.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
No, here's one more level, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, like here's the switch to edition of Mario Odyssey, and.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Like here's Mario GPS coordinating or you know doing that
dumb legend of the crab.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
That would be very disappointing if it was. But you
know that, the thought is that who's working on it,
because supposed to the Odyssey team is the one working
on Donkey Kong Bonanza, even though we don't know officially
because intend it doesn't like to reveal who's working on games.
But the idea, the thought is that for sure it

(51:47):
is the Odyssey team working on Bonanza. So do they
have another new team working on uh, you know, this
Mario game or is it like they split the teams
off or something that would be interesting to note. So,
you know, there was a comment done by shoe Hey
Yoshida now that he's you know mom or Sony, he

(52:09):
can talk right a lot more. You mentioned that he
feels Nintendo has lost their identity because they are essentially
just they're doing a switch to like that's not when
Zeno does, right, They like to innovate.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, I mean yeah, going on.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
No, I mean what do you do you think he's
do you think he's right?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Or yeah, like think about the only time they like
because I heard Jeff Gerson talking about this like last week.
He was like talking about like, you know, it seems
like the Superintendo was just like a better Nintendo like
back in the day. Yeah, but it's like, yeah, that's
a very iterative or that's a very noticeable step up

(52:55):
and quality going from eight deck to sixteen bit right
and then adding you know, uh, four more buttons on
the controller, you know, And I think the name is bad,
like the switch to the call. Should have called it
like the Super Switch, or you know, give it some
kind of fun name.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Also, should I mentioned they roped Paul Rudd back from
those Super Nintendo that was good.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, it should have got Jenny Lewis from The Wizard
movie as well. But yeah, it's just I mean, the
probably all the business stuff doesn't help. But yeah, it's
just like just another thing. You know, if you if
you even if you did like a cursory look at it,
it's like, this looks like the same the same way
I just had. I mean, I guess it's bigger, but

(53:41):
like and then then going like, hey, it'll run Cyberpunk
and it'll run Final Fantay seven remake.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It's like, which they've officially announced that Cyberpunk is using DLSS. Yeah,
so we know it is, even though Nvidia has said it.
Nintendo hasn't officially said those words, but cyber funk is
or has revealed that they are using it, even though
you know, we all knew about it at this point.
But like, that's the funny thing is they said they

(54:08):
didn't want to call it the Super Nintendo Switch. They
didn't want to call it the super Switch, because they
didn't want people to think that it was just a
upgrade from but you know, you.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Know, I would rather to call the super switch or
like the hyper switch or some some nickname or something.
Then here's a switch to and hey, in seven years
we'll get to switch three maybe and that'll have it,
that'll have the raccoon.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Suit or you know, you know, I could see their
reasoning with that is because they don't they're so scared
to have another we U moment right right, Like that.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Was a that was a like, uh, I mean the
problem to we you it'siding a lot of other things. Yeah,
it just felt like an add on or you know
that they didn't position it correctly. But people already know
what the switch to is going to be, so why
not give it like a cool sign and name or
something unique. Then here's this black console or black tablet

(55:04):
with these black joy coons and no fun allowed to
print it in the box somewhere like.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Oh another thing, I forgot to mention the the Ambo
for a street Fighter. Yeah, those things went up to
like forty dollars.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yep, geez, I know the good reason to have that.
The Amibo puck thing in the Power Save Puck that
I got Weakness program to be any Amibo.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
At first, I was kind of surprised that they actually
made the amibo, like that thing is going to actually
work with a mebo. I thought that they you know,
the rumors were at the beginning that they didn't have
the MP the NFC technology or whatever in it. Right,
But that's cool that they have brought it back.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, but for what reason? Like only so few games.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Because they want to sell they want to sell mebo
to you.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, but they don't do. I mean, it's even less
than like Skylanders or Disney like even like the nintended
to use a nebos, like use them so badly, like
no Wonder, no Wonder people. I mean, if you were smart,
got to think I got that weird Bootsy power disc things.
You can just say, any nebo do it? Yeah, because
they're so it's so bad. It's like, I'm not gonna

(56:15):
give you it's a mean though, is even like somewhat
posable maybe, but it's just like a figure. It's like, okay,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, you're right about that, but I feel buy them
just to have a collection. Yeah, Okay, Nintendo made these
things that I want to have them all.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
They are the kings of making. You got to catch
them all.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So I had the Pikachi one somewhere.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I mean I have like three or four of them,
and it pissed me off. I actually spent like seventy
bucks on one, and then like a month later they
re released it. So, yeah, fuck you.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I thought about that for this. That don't Blade two one.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Mine Mine was the on the Joker one.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Okay, yeah but you Oh so you end up paying
like seventy bucks for that thing then they re release it. Yeah,
oh wow, I'm sorry. Yep, So I should have mentioned
that this was so when Shuehey was on the Easy Allies,
he did he did the actual like reaction stream with
the min Max folks. Then he went on Easy Allies

(57:13):
to do kind of like a reaction thing on there,
and that's where he said this quote where he says
to me, uh, the Nintendo switch to announcement direct was
a mixed message from Nintendo, and I think I think
Nintendo's losing their identity in my opinion. For me, they
were always about creating some new experience, like designing hardware

(57:34):
and games together to create something an amazing new experience.
But switch to, as we all anticipate, is a better switch.
It's larger screen, more powerful, and because it's a better switch,
this core promise of the whole switch too is we
made things better, and that's something other companies have been
doing all the time.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I you know, I.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Don't know if I completely agree with that that last part,
but yeah, like what's new, but switch to? What has
you excited? Well?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
The mouse controls, right, that is kind of innovative. What
let's see if anybody comes up with something cool with that.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
You know, no one will. I mean even that basketball
game looks looks bad.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Okay, that looks terrible. But honestly, you know, there's two
games that are uh one of them was shown at
that Galaxy showcase from the talk about it a little
bit later, and then they just showed it at the
Triple I showcase a rematch. There's two games that already
are doing that way better.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
And then this thing is only dealing with mouse controls,
and that that's somebody recipe for for just you, I
mean Dumpster.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Yeah, you kind of have a decent gaming laptop and
when you play game time it do you prefer to
play with a mouse and keyboard or a game pad.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I always play with the controller, but that's because I
don't like playing. I'm not used to playing on PC
at all.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I'm not a wave like okay, but even like you know,
I think has been a mouse on like you know,
your desk or that's one thing, but like then they're high.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
They're high idea like you can use the mouse in
your on your leg, you know, the rooftop party. It's like,
no one's going to do this, are you guys high?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, Like, I don't know that in a multiplayer setting.
I think maybe Mario Party using as a gimmick is
fine to play some of the games right, to add
some kind of more fun in there. I think Metro
Prime having that as an ultimate way to play if
you like to do keyboard mouse, which I could see
them doing a USB where you could plug in a

(59:34):
USB keyboard eventually if you want.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
But I mean, if it comes onime to that, just
really release a goddamn game on scheme, you know, well,
you know, tell for forty dollars or something and be like, hey,
he's trying to play metroc Prime for it is a
keyboard and mouse. Here you go but like the problem
with the mount with their version of the mouse, also
it has no inherent dead own right. And you know

(01:00:02):
the table at your desk is one thing, because you
know it's a solid object that you don't right. But
like you're taking the mouse, you're going to your doc.
Can you imagine you're going to your doctor's office, which
I switched to sitting in sitting in an intersection area
and then busting out both joy cons for mouse controls
for Metroid prime for you're stupid, You're gonna look.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Well, I mean no, but hold on, nobody unless you're
like a kid, nobody's doing that, like you know, I mean, no,
I'm not so okay, I pulled out my switch and
I would get made fun of because you know, different
culture here. Uh that's you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Know, not the mouse part.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
But yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pull I'm
not gonna pull the mouse part out. I'm telling you
that right now. I'm not doing that in a public place.
I'm not doing that. And I don't think any outside
of the park. If I went to the park for
some reason to play my switch to which you know
that was a big deal with the switch win reveal.
I'm not doing that either. I'm just saying at my
house if I wanted to, if it's the way you

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play the game, whether I'm playing on my TV or
I'm playing tabletop or whatever, whatever, I'll use it if
the game is good enough. Right, I'm not gonna play
I might play Metro Prime that way if I was
reviewing it or something, just to see what it's like.
But I don't play games with mouse and keyboard that much.
I'm not a good use case for it. I do

(01:01:28):
know a lot of people that they love playing games
off PC. I could see how this is cool. I
could see how a strategy game works for that, right,
Like I could see how SIB seven you want to
play that with a mouse and keyboard because you're used
to that, right, It does open and endo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Up for You're not going to play SIVE seven on
the switch to on the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Go, And well you might, but even if you are
at that point, you're using controls. You know I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And then also like what you know five seven came
to PS five and Xbox, Like, what do you think
the breakdown is of sales for that game? Between Steam
or you know, PC slash Steam, PS five and Xbox.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Well switch one also.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Okay, I'm still going to go ninety five. I'm PC
and the other five percent divided up between the other
four consoles or three consoles, I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
More like name, but switch is probably way down on
the switch is like one percent, like the only people
that that have that or I only all want to
switch one and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Like, you know, and those those people aren't SID fans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I agree that they're not. No, Well, you know,
my thing is he's right in a sense. He's right
in a sense that Okay, this is not overly innovative.
But Nintendo does this with their number two with their
two consoles, right super Nintendo from the ny S, the

(01:03:01):
S and E s to the sixty fourths of the GameCube,
now switch one to switch to DS to three DS.
This is what they do, right. They don't have a
real like they are still even though the Steam deck
is out there and the rag ally and all that stuff,
all that stuff is still niche compared to the switch one. Okay,

(01:03:21):
so until they are no longer the dominant. And that's
the problem with the Nintendo has right now, right, is
that they did the smart thing which we I think
everybody in the world can agree that the smart thing
was we have to combine our handheld market and our
console market, because nobody is going to get to the
point where people are not gonna buy both anywhere, right

(01:03:46):
unless Nintendo did something like remember what somebody did with
the with the portal, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Remember when the switch one got announced and they're like, oh,
this three d istilling important.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Well, yeah, that's because at that point they don't know
that it's a switch one, it's going to be amazing
or not. But now that it now that it took
the world by storm, sold one hundred and fifty million consoles,
they kind of owe it to everybody, they even know
it to themselves to continue that trend, especially when you're
trying to, you know, be Disney and have a Nintendo

(01:04:19):
World and have Nintendo Movies and have all this other stuff.
You gotta keep being successful with your console. So I
don't and honestly, like, what else is there to innovate on?
What else is there to including a console with it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I should have get a idea for that. Remember the
Samsung Gear VR. Yeah, do something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
But who's okay, the masses don't want VR.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
No, but if you if you included if you Nintendo
released like you know dr right, well, i'd have to
be more substantial than some piece of shitty cardboard, like
how you do have it like you know, be plastic
or be durable. But imagine it's if it's like, okay,
every game has a VR mode and you can use

(01:05:10):
it how you want. If they want to have like
special VR options, it's one thing. But if you just
want to have it, you know, playing the game with
a big ass screen in front of your eyes, into
the wast from your eyes, go at it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
But then you also have to introduce the VR peral,
right to be able to the what sorry you have
to use you have to then announce a separate VR
peripheral that isn't either included in the with the system
or doesn't cost two hundred right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Well, no, you put in you put the switch into
this thing basically like a plastic shroud for the for
the switch to like right in front of your eyes.
Like that's that's what the gear VR was. Basically, It's
just like here's this plastic thing you slide your phone into.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
But you would think that Sonny would have done that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
It Sonny doesn't have a handheld device.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I mean, right, but you would think that, like, you know,
Sony's next thing would be, let's tie They're not thinking
about tying VR to the PlayStation six right. If anything,
they're thinking about tying a handheld again, which they stopped doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
That's because Sony, you need the PS five the hard Like, Yeah,
the PSVR is basically like a few screens, and it
means all the processing power from you know, the PS
five make it work. The switch, it's the screen literally
is the processing power. So yeah, it's a lot easier
and you just use the joy cons and play games

(01:06:39):
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I just think that that's a cool novelty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
I just suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
I don't know where that gaming is ever going to become.
We can want the ready player one thing all we want,
but I just I don't think it's going to ever
become that. If it was, there'd be way more people
buying in the VR.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Maybe it's bigger than it was when the psv R
one came out. And I understand Medicquest with that wireless
you know, with the medic Quest three that they're on
now is selling decently, even though they've taken hits recently
because they haven't been selling like they were. You know,

(01:07:23):
I think that's a good idea in theory. I just
don't beyond that, like what else. That's the problem that
all the other consoles have right now is it's all
diminishing returns. It's all does it really look? Does the
PS five actually look a million times better than the
PS four?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yes, I pro yes does right, But so does the PC,
which a lot more people are just going to buying
PCs at this point. And I think that's also.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
PC is where we're seeing growth more than the consoles, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Because he is also where you expected to spend two
thousand dollars in a video card. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
But the thing that's cool with PC is that once
you spend the whatever it is you're going to spend,
you can play those games for a while, and then
it gets to a certain point where there's a certain category.
You won't be able to play the most brand new,
amazing games after a while, but you'll be able to

(01:08:28):
play a certain level of game for as long as
you own that PC U and you know, until you
f grade then whatever. But yeah, it's and also that's
where a lot of a lot of the highest number
of sales happen on people, right, and people are starting
to kind of become connizant of that, especially not Nintendo.
That never, if they do sales, it's all third party.

(01:08:50):
You might have one first party game in the entire
lineup of a sale, and the only time that they
do a sale which they consider a sale is like
fifteen bucks off on Black Friday, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
So like my original I guess I deal with this
is that I do think shoe Hay is right in
an instance, and that yes, this is very unlike Nintendo.
Just do the next thing, promote how powerful it is,
talk about al it does one hundred and twenty fps.
And they still didn't go full boar with it, right
They They still said, Okay, if somebody wants to hear

(01:09:25):
about the specs of the console, we're not talking about it.
You can go over to video or whatever. We may
not know at all from Nintendo ever about those specs.
That that's going to come when people actually get the
hardware and break it down and all that kind of
stuff whatever, and we'll find out what kind of chip
it has and what it does and all that stuff
and digital foundery those O that stuff, and I kind

(01:09:47):
of understand that, but I do think that kind of
they are trying something with the mouse controls. Let's see
if that ever pans out. It could just be like
that hc rumble where it was like nothing who cares, right,
And you know, they did do some innovative stuff like
ring fit Lavo didn't catch on that they wanted to,
And this is just the launch of the castle, right,

(01:10:07):
they could have some other stuff planned out that that
we don't know about yet to do with the mouse
controls or with something else. So I just yeah, gone,
I don't know. I just think that they're kind of
like stuck in a situation where they had to do
switch to so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
My VR thing, my VR idea, they should. They should
release that headset thing I was talking about and called
the Virtual Boy too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Except to have colors this time that like red and
black and exactly you know you're seeing. Just that was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
When I was a kid, not at the same time,
mind you, But when I was a kid, I had
two different Virtual Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I had an uncle that had one. I played Mario
Tennis on it, I think, and that's the only.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Thing I ever ever playing on that I have like
Mario Tennis and then read alert and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Like okay, yep, and I remember going and okay, this
is cool. I don't want to have my face shoved
in this thing constantly, and I stopped playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I used mine laying down and that team worked really well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
That's how I played it too, was laying down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, but you did n't your desk, you know, no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
No, it's sitting down. Didn't that work? I had to
have it like on the floor, laying down of my
belly and playing right. But but yeah, I mean, what
do you get? What is anybody watching listening later? What
do you all think? Do you think Nintendo had no choice?
They they couldn't innovate this time? Hey, right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
You know, they're a victim of their own success. But
also like yeah, I think the them just going like
here's another switch and it has you know, thirty more
processing power or age percent or whatever, and games that
came out five years ago can run this thing now.
It's like cool, Uh what else you got? You know? Like, yeah,

(01:11:57):
I know, here's the thing I know that like if
you get a switch to I can one percent guarantee
you're gonna get fund of fantasy seven integrated for it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not because as much
as I would love to play like Remake and Rebirth,
which I probably will play them before when we when
we once we know when part three is coming, I'm
not spending seventy dollars on a game. Way See, here's
the problem. Here's the problem with with switch to and

(01:12:28):
knowing the games are gonna be full price at launch
and they're probably not gonna come down for a while.
Is I'm not paying full price for a game that
you can find for like what forty or twenty bucks
or less on PSI right now, Like I'm not doing that.
Games cost too much money right now. I'm not doing
that anymore. I It is one thing to buy a

(01:12:50):
twenty dollars version of Fall Fantasy seven again on multiple
consoles or whatever. I'm not doing that for a sixty
seventy dollars game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Like you know, if you saved that money, you would
have more money to his switch too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
That was a long time ago. I would have been
spent on something else. What are you talking about? But no, honestly,
I do I do think that, Like my issue with
Nintendo is is more about losing personality, not so much,
it's the they feel very corporate, and Doug Bowser emphasizes

(01:13:25):
that that's why I have him in the picture of
the thumbnail very much emphasizes like, we are very corporate.
This is what we do. We decide the price. We
talked about this, talk about that we don't have that
personality anymore. Just like that you lost with the WATA
and Reggie unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Kind of clean up Reggie and get him back back
in the saddle.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
It's duck. It's like even even Reggie talking about Like
I was watching that Playing with Power documentary that's on
Amazon that goes through the whole history of Nintendo, and
they actually do a really good job of talking about
like how Sega and Sony as well, and when they
were competing, you know, competing with them, and Reggie's on there,

(01:14:06):
and like I was like, man, I miss him talking
about Nintendo, Like I miss the way he does it,
that the way he can make you dude, Like even
when he's like super serious talking about we you and
like you could tell that like he doesn't have a
lot to go on here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
It's still Yeah, I don't think Reggie, like I don't
think Reggie is like ever a quote unquote gamer, but
the same way I don't think like you know, Sean
Laden was either from Sony, but like they can make
you believe in their product and the people they have
now on pretty much all sides don't do that for yeah,

(01:14:42):
you know, and he doesn't have you know, they have
Doug Bobser, but he sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
And he's like dog Bos is great to go talk
to CNN and CNBC and all that stuff, right, talk
to the business people, but he's not great to talk
to the gamers. Is why he normally doesn't. He doesn't
come out there, and he's not on the Nintendo directs, right,
I mean it's all done with the Japanese the same reason.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Why, like you know that one direct I think that
Nintendo did like six well a decade ago with the Muppets. Yeah,
like that that was such a like fun and funny
thing that they did, you know Reggie, uh you know, yeah,
and like two of those guys are gone and the

(01:15:23):
other guy, I mean, he's not very tired, but he's
so like way up the echelon.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
He's just got his mind on other things, right, He's
he's doing the other parts of Nintendo. He's doing the
Mario the Nintendo World, he's doing the Maria movie, he's
doing you know, the Mario two movie. You know, he's
doing all the other stuff, right, the Nintendo app whatever,
and you know he's not developed anymore. So it's right.

(01:15:49):
I mean, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Fact that like doesn't want people to like know who's
making their games, it's like weird, like extra weird.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Yeah, that's also right, It's yeah, it just it's it's
just kind of sad to see that a little bit.
And that's the part that it's an issue with me.
As far as they definitely do want to see more
grown up, it feels like with this iteration switch right, right,
they want to appeal to the hardcore gamer. Obviously still

(01:16:21):
have things for kids, right, but it did, and and families.
Obviously the game chat thing is also them trying to,
you know, say that you can do that with your family,
all that kind of stuff. But it's just like it
does feel like some of that identity is lost. We
are now just another one of these consoles, but you
can it's handheld. It will be very interesting what happens

(01:16:45):
when if Xbox Sony come out with their systems and
they there, and a part of them is also essentially
a switch, but it's got Sony branding or Xbox branding
on it. Will that force Nintendo to once again have
to feel like, Okay, we've done all we can here,

(01:17:06):
let's move on to something else. I do wonder if
there's gonna be always some version of the switch, because
they have to have that handheld part because they are
Nintendo and they have to have the game Boy essentially
something part of that. Right, Maybe the switch then becomes
the switch will be able to play those games, but

(01:17:29):
if you want to play the best version, it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
This other thing that's what That's what they should have
called the switch one instead of calling switches. Should call
it the game Boy six. And could the game Boy
seven with the switch to start going to you think
five is advanced out the game Boy nine?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Yeah, they call it. They could have called it the
switch advanced right, right, all right, But that's that's enough
of that. You guys leave what you think in your comments,
whether you're defense Nintendo on that. Also, I think the
variable pricing thing is also very it's very corporate from them,
all right. So another big thing that happened in the

(01:18:10):
week previously is Respawn and bit Reactor got to reveal
during the Star Wars celebration that Zero Company the Star
Wars strategy game, which is set to release in twenty
twenty six or PC, PlayStation five and Xbox Series X
and S. I wonder if that will come to switch

(01:18:31):
to at some point. What did you think? They They
showed off a two minute trailer and then they they
had a panel that was done by Lucy James from Gainspot.
She was MCing it and they had various spel from
various parts of somebody from Respawn, Kobe were from bit Reactor,
and then some folks from somebody from EA and also

(01:18:55):
from Lucasfilm. Right, what did you think from what we saw?

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I didn't watch the panel, but I did watch the
trailer and, like one or two of the news stories
about it, the game itself looks fine, you know. It
looks like Star Wars x coom, you know, with like
slightly more actually bent to it, but you can still
recognizing a lot of the excamps in it. My problem is,
I don't give a fuck about the Clone Wars, and

(01:19:22):
more to the point, I'm really tired of Star Wars
being in this very narrow seventy year period, and I
know the Acolyte was like one hundred years before Star Wars,
but like on episode one, episode nine, it's like seventy
years and everything takes place in that seventy year period,
and I'm tired of it. I want them to move

(01:19:42):
the hell forward. And I know that stupid uh Ryan
Gosling movie is supposed to be, like oh it's a
few months later after episode nine. It's like, how about
like ten years later or you know, one hundred, Like
why are we sitting so tied to this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Because you know they want to do episode ten and
do whatever right after what happened there, even though they
said they're not done with that, they're done with the
Skywalkers or whatever. They be done.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, that's my point. It's like, yo, Darth Vader are
gonna show up in this thing? My magic Eth Paul
says yes, because he shows up and everything. You know. Yeah,
so yeah, it's just there have been long debates, but
like which is better Star Trek or Star Wars? And
you can debate the quality, but like from a moving forward,

(01:20:35):
the fiction forward aspect, it's clearly Star Trek because Star
Wars is still mired in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Yeah, I mean that the TV shows have been good
to do things and move things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Hey, I you know Alex Mandalorian, because it's very at
least attempted, at least the first season. He's like not
part of Star Wars at all, and they've only been
in like you know, Loop Skywalker and a Soak and
all that crap into it like later on. But like
and I've heard a hand or sign, but like, it's
still a prequel of a prequel that I don't care

(01:21:10):
about in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
So I know how this ends, right, fair enough, to
be fair, it is a standalone story of it's set
in some deep thing within the Clone Wars, right, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
It's just I just think Star Wars it's just so limiting.
It's like I want they could be telling so many
cool and unique stories. Like I still think the best
Star Wars thing, from like a story perspective is still
Go to War because that was like literally thousands of
years before Star Wars, and it told a familiar but
wholly unique story.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Even have remember when they were gonna do uh at
one point they were going to do an older Republic movie. Yeah, yeah,
and that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Like all Star Wars movies that fell apart, because that's
of course.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
It's just it's like they're so scared to do anything
that they might possibly do a movie about at.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Some that's right, you know, them going like, oh, the
Ryan Gossing movie takes place a few months later after
episode nine. It's like, no, make it like one hundred
years later and then think about how much how much
of the future you can mine from that, as opposed
to our game takes place in seventeen bby and you
know the sequel takes place in sixteen bby. We're gonna

(01:22:29):
catch up to the battle battle ag Yeah, and eventually sure,
so right, but.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
The game play looked good. You know, you can fully
customize your party with various different uh you know, races
of different Star Wars characters. They did have different Star
Wars characters in that trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I just I just want to have like a HUT
character and haven't taken off like half the battlefield. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I could totally see this thing getting like DLC with
different characters. That's not in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Eventually, You're not you're not thinking enough. Not even different characters,
it's different skins that too. You can unlock what's his name.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, you're gonna Lockland, you lock Anakin, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
You can un lock Lando. But here he is from
Solo and then here he is all old you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Know, yeah man, you know of course it's ea bro.
They're gonna try to get you know, they're gonna do
this all they can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Older Orlando from episode nine.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
But no, I do think it's cool. Like, has there
ever been a Star Wars tax game? The I think
like this is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Not strategy games were not specifically tactics. Okay, I think
it's called The Empire at War. It was an old
PT game. But I was like, it's basically StarCraft, you
know Star Wars guys.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Right, So it's like, yeah, this is kind of it's
this exists right, Like it's not something I would have
thought Disney would sign off on. So because it's not
a sexy game, right, this is not a sexy game.
It's not a game. It's like somebody sees the game
plan goes, oh my god, I'm want to play that. Right,
the whole thing looks cool. So you see the game
plan and it's like, oh, okay, this is a this

(01:24:14):
is a strategy game, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I can't imagine this being like a lot of money
if you can probably use a bunch of assets for
maps and stuff. And also their last two sexy games,
which would be Jedi Phone Order two, Uh, Star Wars
Outlaws didn't exactly sell.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
That well Outlaws not ea, but yes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I mean Disney perpective.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Yeah, Jen Sarva two did well enough that they Greenland
Survivor three. I guess that's something. But yeah, it probably
didn't sell well enough that they felt like they had
to go back and make the old console versions or whatever. Yeah,
like I could see this if you really like these

(01:24:59):
kind of games. I could see this being a thing. Uh.
You know a lot of people like that. I don't
remember what the name of it is, that Marble one right,
they didn't get Yeah, they came out like a terrible time, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
You know that was like not a tactics game because
it had like that weird deck building happens.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yeah, the deck building. Yeah, but I mean it's still
like for Axis right doing it, or you had those
devs so you had it's kind of similar to this.
We have people that have experienced different things doing this game.
They seem to really they they talked a million times
on that panel about how they're all Star Wars fans
and they all I want to see this succeed and

(01:25:39):
do well, we'll see. They got a whole year. It's
sometimes twenty twenty six doesn't even have a whole time frame,
so we'll see when it comes out. Yeah, people are
still waiting on if we're going to hear anything about
the Culture remake or some other you know, a few
other games that they're in the pipeline where as Star
Wars goes. So but cool that we got to see

(01:26:00):
this at least yep. But all right, a few more things,
just really quick, since we're talking about you know, the
Galaxy Far Far Away as we'll call talk about Galaxies
showcase here. Look, there wasn't this was It's a new
I don't know if they're a company, like a new

(01:26:20):
publishing partner or what they are doing it, but this
was brand new for this year. It's not you know,
like some of the other ones that have done it
in the past. So it was kind of interesting when
I saw this, I was like, is this a video
game show grease or what is this supposed to be?
You know, so kind of the big there. This is

(01:26:42):
all indies by the way, it's not you know, any
like big third party publisher in here, but so some
of the bigger things that they had to hear. Konami
was in here publishing a remaster or I don't know
what this is, or like a new version of Lily's
World XD, which was like a nineties style like early
web detective game with like all the like nineties looking

(01:27:05):
PC web surfing stuff in it, so that looked kind
of interesting. Great Player Obscure had another trailer, a new trailer.
Paint Killer had a new game from Savor and nine
and three D Rooms which is just like absolutely just
doom dooming it up with different weapons and stuff, which

(01:27:28):
looked cool. Powerwash Simulator too got a trailer with the
devs talking about different new stuff that's going to be
in the game. There's a Demon School got a new
trailer as well. There's a swat game that's going to
be only on PS five. An Xbox series called Ready

(01:27:48):
or Not It comes out next year that looked really
cool as well. An awesome game that comes out May
twenty second called Deliver at All Costs, which literally just
had people that or like delivery drivers with different like
old cars like crashing into each other at different points.
It looked I was like, okay, I was definitely missing

(01:28:10):
a game like this where you're just crashing into shit.
There's a Neon Abyss two that got a trailer. There's
this cool, cool game. I don't know if it's been
shown before, so I apologize if it's been shown before.
I did not watch that whole I'm sorry. But like,
I love the Mix Showcase now that they kind of

(01:28:32):
do it with kind of funny and stuff, but Jesus,
I can't with like the three hour showcase thing, Like
it's you know, it's something you have to like watch
little by little and it's after like the first thirty
minutes and I find out it's like three hours. I
can't too much. But there's this game it's called Unbeatable,
and essentially it's like looks like an anime. It's a

(01:28:54):
side scrolling game with rhythm beat up gameplay and an
original soundtrack, and it's like the music is illegal, so
you're doing crimes because you're trying to I guess legalize
their music. And then when you get into battles, it's
like all done with like rhythm based gameplay, and it
looked awesome. So yeah, they did show the FBC firebreak

(01:29:17):
in here. It had a cool trailer in there, and
then this is where they announced the live stream that's
happening on the twenty fourth. The game that I mentioned
is called Vector Strike, which is essentially it looks exactly
like Rocket League, but they do handball and like there's
some like robotic arms or whatever that have like powers

(01:29:41):
that are pushing the ball into the net. But it
still looks better than whatever that thing was, the wheelchair
game that's on switch right. And then also you got
slow Cap doing Rematch, which is essentially soccer doing Rocket League,
which looks better than both games. So you know, that's

(01:30:03):
what I'm saying, Like that wheelchair basketball thing is not great. Uh,
there's a pixel art fishing minigame, a fishing RPG called
Nice Day for Fishing that looked cool. In this I
was like, literally, they'll come up with anything. They showed
another trailer for that fine gung Fu game that looked

(01:30:25):
neat that they've shown at other showcases as well. There's
a hacking game that look kind of looks like Hotline Miami,
but you're hacking the kills instead. It's called dead Wire.
That comes out. And then the game that did the
one more thing with was the new game from Allegian
Studios which has like x Doom and cod devs called Covenant,

(01:30:48):
and it's in first person and it kind of looks
like not medieval but like dark fantasy, I guess, with
different weapons and stuff, not just guns. So yeah, some
some neat stuff in there. Uh, it's only an hour. Also,
if you're like one of those I likes to watch
these things, it's kind of worth checking out. There's other
games that I didn't mention, but you know, you can

(01:31:10):
go check those out on one of those Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
I never heard heard of the the show until you
mentioned it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
They did it on Thursday, and it was kind of like, what, okay,
this is a thing. Cool. Yeah, uh, just to get
into Xbox for a little bit here. They didn't announce
what's coming to Game Pass, which oh I didn't mention that.
I did play Timpopo for a little bit. But if
you like puzzle games and okay, so think about it

(01:31:42):
like Captain Toad. If Captain Toad was a puzzle game,
because essentially it's like you have to use there's like
it gives you a certain number of squares that you
have to figure out what goes and eat square so
that the little pink puffball thing will won't fall down,

(01:32:03):
it will go through and complete the level for you. Yeah,
so you're like constructing the puzzle because you're the conductor.
The little girl as the conductor, you're essentially conducting the
music so the little tempopo things can go and complete
the puzzle. I played like fifteen levels of that thing.
It's it's pretty good for a game pass game, Like

(01:32:24):
if you like puzzle games. It's not Blueprints or whatever.
That's the whole other side of the spectrum. But you know,
it's pretty good that's been out there. Also, you know again,
Cleibscier comes out in twenty fourth, got Tower Born, which
I'm kind of excited to try. That out comes down
the twenty ninth on game Pass as well, Game Pass Ultimate,
and then you get far Cry four, which they had

(01:32:45):
Far Cry five last month, So I guess you'd be
off to just like starting to unload old games into it. Uh,
eighteen hundred comes out on May first, the first drop
of an old Call of Duty game. Well, I guess
MONA War for three was the first one. Monta war
for two is now coming to game Pass on May first,

(01:33:07):
and then Dredge comes on May sixth, uh, and definitely
check out Dredge. You've not played that game, go play that.
It's awesome. It's survival horror fishing and you will get addicted,
So go play that. And then also just a shout
out to some stuff. Leaving Thirsty Shooters is leaving Snaper

(01:33:29):
Elite five, which they have the new DLC or the
new game on there, so you don't necessarily need Snapper.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Leap five.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Have a nice death which I reviewed and it's a
decent One of those rogue legs is leaping over. I
meant to mention that wh you're talking about Indiana Jones,
but Phil Spencer has officially said that they do see
Life in Indiana Jones as a gaming franchise. He mentions
that beyond Xbox and a PC and a master for
four million players, at one point, it's now just really

(01:33:59):
some p S five. You're playing it, show there's other
people playing it. Disney had supposedly talked about green lighting
a second game.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
So sure, yeah, why not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
You're not gonna You've gotten through three Level three worlds,
so you know, that's a positive for them. Uh did
you see that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
They based you just say, based on young Indiana Jones
instead though.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah, there you go. Did you see that they finally
after all this stuff feels like every week we've been
talking about the Oblivion remake, but that it's not going
to have uh their own lives, the own like announcement
stream right tomorrow or today whenever you're watcheeing this, I
wonder if it's gonna shadow drop. Now everybody thought it

(01:34:49):
was gonna shadow drop today.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Should shadow drop, but the entire presentation should be like, oh,
we're we're making Marrow and instead the better game.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Not sadly they will just it will be that. Gotta
deal with it. Also, Rebellion is happy with getting two
million players for Adam Fall, which I still need to
go back and play that. Yeah, but hey, that's cool
people being positive about game Pass when they put their
game in it. So right, that's a great thing. In
the Minecraft movie once again doing great as far as

(01:35:25):
box office goes at over five hundred million now in
nine days or five hundred and like twenty million something
like that. So yeah, I was watching the thing with
the Game Kitchen guys, which they're doing the movie for
clareup Skiers also getting a movie and they haven't even

(01:35:46):
released the game, but Game Kitchen talked about how they
will not do an adaptation if the original debs are
not involved, and I thought that was that's great to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Thinking of that. Did you hear the other hot video
game movie news today? No? I did not, And this
is a good one, Michael Bay and Sydney Sweeny or
teaming up to make an Outrun video game movie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
I mean, what lore is there an Outrun aside from
you race cars? Like that's one that's like, do we
really need to have the essence of Outrun?

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Yes, you know, Unforest family, it doesn't seem like so
star and as she's just like producing it or something.
But oh, okay, speaking of video game of video movies,
do you know that that Until Dawn movie is hitting
this week? What? And no, you haven't heard a damn
thing about it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
No, exactly. The only thing I saw was like YouTube
asking if I would go watch that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Okay, that thing is kind of and there's been absolutely
zero promotion or press about it at all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
So I bet Myncraft movie will still outdo that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
By yes, by no man, until Don's gonna break it.
You're just thinking, you know, high enough, it's gonna be
the first like trillion dollar movie.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
It will definitely probably get people to go buy that
until Donnery Master, and that's probably about all that's gonna
happen with that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Yeah, they didn't like I didn't they sound like no.
I think they used a trailer and everyone didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Like, It's just the thing is, the games are already
so much like a movie. It's like, what are you
gonna do with this? Like, I don't know, it's just okay,
I guess I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Just don't see that. The last trailer was two months ago.
That's not great. No, it's the movie, a movie that's
coming out in four days.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Yeah, definitely not Yeah, but all right, just getting through
a couple of things really quick. Sony has raised the
press of PS plus and Canada. Yep, I'm sorry for
the Canadian.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
England or England and Australia and all other players.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Well that was the PS five.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
They've also raised the price a PS plus as well,
and it's just like crazy, man. So this is the
second time the Canadian players have seen the PS plus rise. Yeah,
so now, uh, you're gonna have to pay one hundred
and ninety Canadian dollars to get a whole year's worth

(01:38:31):
of just ps plus extra. It's two hundred and twenty
four ninety nine if you want to get premium for
twelve months. Uh, and then one o nine ninety nine
if you want to get just the essential to have
online play and get the free games.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
So esh, I don't know if that means that the
monthly price goes up, but yeah, that that sucks for
everybody that buys it yearly.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
For sure cards now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Yeah, for sure and stock them up now. Funk Com
is delayed doing Awakening until June tenth. It was supposed
to release May twentieth. Is not going to release June tenth.
You can still get it on June fifth if you
do the early early access, the head start access, or
whatever the heck they call it. This games looked interesting
every time I've seen it. I don't know that I'm

(01:39:22):
gonna play it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I mean, how big in the dune? Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Not? Not big?

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
So, to be fair, I've always said I'm going to
read the book. It doesn't happen. I tried to watch
the first movie. I was just like totally lost.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Watch the old movie instead. That makes it way better.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Okay, are you being seriously just joking both? Okay, so
I've heard there's isn't there like a is it on
now or is it like coming later? There's like a
show also for Dune.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Yeah, I match prequel. Yeah, but I think it has
an actress I like in it, but I don't care
about doing take care.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Of Also, the Vaulver Digital released their top ten game franchises.
Cults of the Lamb Probably No Surprise is number one.
It's made more than ninety million dollars. Astra Neeer is
number two at eighty million, and then Serious Sam or
Stronghold is number three, and then Serious Sam. Of course,
Stronghold and Serious Sam have nine and eleven games between them.

(01:40:23):
It's pretty amazing that Cult of the Lamb and Astronir,
who only have likes getting there what their second game
pretty soon?

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Is it like a DLC or something?

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
The Lamp.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Yeah, Cults of the Lamb, h Well Air is getting
that sequel that comes out this year. Enter the Gungeon
two is also getting a sequel, which you know Gungeon
was was in there, and then you know a talas
principal also has the sequel, and they just got that

(01:40:59):
Remass so they came out last week as well. Yeah,
you know that's done well for them. So, you know,
Devolver say what you will. Some people say they're not
an indie publisher anymore. I saw a lot of that
today when they released this thing. But they said that
their focus is on you know, established franchises now, so

(01:41:20):
they may not you may not see them go after
like doing a lot of new stuff, so a lot
more established things like you know, that's why we get
into the Gungeon two and Monster Trained two and astron
Ear expeditions, and but they're still doing new stuff like
Skatesto and Baby Steps and four Strike, so.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
You know, yeah, you make sequels to the established franchises
to generate money to experiment with with new franchises. This
ain't hard, yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
I mean credit to them for still going being around
and helping out indies and doing things. You know, I
always enjoyed develp and their stuff. They make greg they
published great games, so and they know they know how
to pick they they know how to see stars for sure,
they they pick them. They do a good job of
picking the ones that they know. Will a lot of
indie darwins end up coming from Devolvers. Sure, but all right,

(01:42:18):
I think that's gonna do it for the episode today,
we will do the usual ending at how we normally
end the show with the games that are coming out
uh this week. Obviously I've talked about it, I think
like four times during this episode. But you know, Claire

(01:42:39):
Obscure Expedition thirty three comes out on the twenty fourth.
If you didn't know already, that will be a game
that if you're not sitting there trying to pre order
your switch to a lot of people are going to
be going nuts with that game. I also got Fatal
Furious City of the Wolves coming out that same day,
big for the fight. You're you uh to the Fatal Fury.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
No, that's another sm K for Chi. Nope, not for me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
I wonder how much sm K paid to be on
the ring mat to WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
It's all Saudi Arabia money, so probably.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Not that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
It is Saudi Arabia money. H steel Seed comes out
the twenty second, that is going to be on PC,
Xbox and PS five. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
We got.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
The uh what's called Day's Gone Remastered. It's coming out
of the twenty fifth, along with four five coming to
PS five. I think I don't own Days Gone, so
I was gonna say it's gonna be a ten dollar remaster,
but I think I owned that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I own it and still won't pay the ten dollars, so.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
That Command and conquer Uh Spiritual successor game. Tempest Rising
comes out on PC on the twenty fourth as well.
Line Last Defense Academy comes out on switching PC. This
has gotten good reviews. It's like a visual novel with
strategy game in it. Yasha lecens of the Demon Blake
Coming to Everything also comes out in the twenty fourth.

(01:44:12):
It's like an anime like action RPG kind of thing,
you know, a bad Lands Crew, which just looked kind
of interesting. It comes out of the on PC. Will
of Goo comes out the PS five on the twenty fifth.
Fragpunk finally comes to consolet of getting delayed the same
day it was gonna release and it's only been on PC.

(01:44:34):
Finally comes to Xbox, will be on Game Pass as
well and on PS five, and Moto GP comes out
on April thirtieth. If you've been waiting for Moto GP
twenty five. Oh yeah, there, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
That's the that's the one the introduced to Johnson, the
story mode and the tribal.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Yeah, that's what we're all waiting on there for sure.
But all right, thank you every ready for joining us
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(01:45:17):
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