Keeper Impressions, ROG Xbox Ally X is Out! # 466

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hi,
good morning and afternoon evening, all that stuff. Welcome to
Video Games to the Max, Episode four hundred and sixty six. See,
I'm messed up just as bad as the Aws messed
up on everybody today. But I'll talk about that in

(00:36):
a little bit. Actually gaming related here, Mark has been
playing more Hades too. I got to try out some
Keeper for about I want to say, I guess like
a quarter of the game, because it's not that long.
Smark's playing some other redacted things we can't talk about
right now. I've been playing more fun fantasy tactics e.
The Lease Chronicles. We'll talk about the impressions going around.

(01:00):
I'm on my row Xbox l I x Sarah Bond's
comments on who actually controls the price of the thing,
and I don't know about that. But also we got
some Battlefield six good news. We got some I don't
know if you call it great news for then you.

(01:20):
Ubisoft Venture already having a big departure. There's a Horizon
zero Down movie happening, and a lot more, and we'll
get into all those things. All right. Well, Mark, how's
thing's been going with you?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Here? All right this week, uh, or set it on
too Halloween party and then I'll pit some pinball in
an arcade that was all right, hot.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Wing party, no Halloween, Halloween, okay, okay, right.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I thought you were gonna tell me that you're on
one of those you know, the hot ones who no no. Yeah,
So I did mention the last week through we were
going to I start a new streaming of video stream
service to do the podcast. I was actually signed up

(02:19):
for it. This is Restream, by the way, was testing
it out and then immediately at like three in the
morning is when I didn't know it. Then I thought
restream was just having a problem as a site. So
when I was actually working today is when they they
talked about, oh, there's an AWS like problem. And AWS

(02:45):
obviously uses a lot of different you know, they interconnect
a lot of different things, like Snapchat didn't work with people,
face for parts of Facebook didn't work for people today,
and Restream was a site that's basically all done with
AWS apparently, and so the whole site was down. We
couldn't use it to try to test anything. And so yeah,

(03:10):
that was the experience with that, and I had experience
with it at work, and maybe my job terrible today,
so I didn't get to play as much keeper as
I wanted to to be able to. I thought I
was going to get a lot farther in the game
by the time we got to you know, talk about
the show here, so you know, and we are for

(03:31):
the first time ever on kick stream right decided that
as a thing we can now use, so hey, welcome
to all of our kick people there. So yeah, but
we're still of course, I guess going ahead and getting
into the housekeeping stuff really quick. We are on all
the places we usually are on, which is mainly the

(03:53):
W two network YouTube channel, which you can watch us
live there be around nine o'clock on Mondays. When we
started late because of that because I had to. I
had just spent a whole hour extra doing extra things
at work because this whole thing like derailed everything. So

(04:15):
I made everything and I was trying to test out
the restream thing, and eventually I was just like, Okay,
let's just go use stream yard one more time while
we still have it and see if we can work
out the kinksturing the week. If not, then you know,
it is what it is. But that being said, it
does allow us to be live on YouTube on kick

(04:36):
on which Kick is also W two network. You can
find us there and you can also just watch later
on demand on the YouTube channel and you describe follow
all that stuff. You get our other content, which involves
some other great shows that we have. One of them

(04:56):
is about anime or Taco Cafe. They review all the
weekly seasonal anime that's out there. So the fall season,
the final season of the year just started. They've already
done their premiere episode, so you know, you can kind
of look at some of the shows that they're looking
at reviewing for the season and see if you like it,

(05:17):
or you know, there's I've been still watching Digitmon beat
Breakers and join that. I will probably go back to
watching one. I'm behind on One Piece again, so iry
to catch up on that. For like, I don't know
how many times this happened where I stop watching for
a while because the It's so funny because you know

(05:37):
how you get used to like binging a show, right, yeah,
and then when it stops you you catch up with it.
You kind of like get into the whole I'm not
used to doing the whole weekly thing, so I kind
of let it like just do episodes for a while
and then I'll eventually just okay, I'll just go back
to binging it. And I think I've done like a

(05:58):
whole I'm like three months find or whatever. But they
randomly go on positive now because of Oda being older,
So I don't know if they've gone on another one
of those positive or not. I got to look into it.
But yeah, also, you got our rous you're broadcasting folks.
They do all the entertainment stuff. They are reviewing The
Black Phone too, which I'm gonna be watching, uh today, tomorrow,

(06:23):
depending on where you're watching. Listening to this with my daughter.
She's excited about this movie. She's been one waiting for
this movie to come out, so definitely I'm gonna be
excited to hear what she thinks. She loves The Black
Phone on one of her favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
When it comes up in theaters, you gotta go see
trigger treat.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh are you talking about the old one or they're
making a remake?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, the old one, like the one reed in theaters? Oh? Sweet,
like for like a weekend or something.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, we watched HBO. Max had two really good ones
recently Bring her Back, which is pretty awesome. If you're
a horror movie fan. Honestly watched both Bring Her Back
and The Substance with Demi Moore. Yes, more awesome, right,
So I did not know what to expect when I

(07:18):
watched The Substance, and I was like, holy crap, dude, Yeah,
I mean it has it drives the theme home for sure,
but it actually makes you think about like there are
some people that are that sick brouh.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Vin McMahon for that, Randy Quadad.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, right, that's exactly who I thought of the entire time.
When I was watching that with Dennisquade, I was like, God,
this is like vincick Man, uh so bad, Like I
swear he had to have watched some vincic Man for this.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
When when they make the wrestler version of that movie,
when you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Like uh, you know, somebody's gonna make some movie of
and with all the bad stuff, right, Like as much
as WW is gonna try so hard to like stop
them happening.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
It'll be like the weekend or like the week after
he dies will not sur project.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know you're probably not lying there sleep so but nah,
it's been enjoying some movies. Gonna enjoy one on Tuesday, hopefully,
but yeah, hopefully no more bad adventures with the aws
going down. But it did really like kind of teaches
you of like how we always we kind of talk

(08:37):
about how we're all kind of disparate and separated, and
it's like these are the kinds of things that sometimes
show you how like we're actually so interconnected and how
one thing can go down and it like hurts so much.
Stuff shows you not the bad things about consolidation, right,

(08:58):
like like when it was a micros. Yeah, Microsoft had
one last year right where they had something from there
is like go down for almost like an entire day,
and something similar happened last year. Yeah, so you know,
but all right, let's go ahead and get into the

(09:21):
actual video games stuff. What's you been playing there? Mark?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean it's a little more haiteous too, a faster
review of h I gave it a ten, you know,
that deserves it despite like like one or two like
small ques and I played some tinball over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
No, right, the two machines, Yeah, I was gonna say
particular machines.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, there's a dune machine, uh, you know based in
the movie, although like they didn't really get like the
main characters or like, you know, it's just kind of
like establishing video clips so of crap, like you know,
they don't have Timothy sallamanon or anything, right, and the
cable itself is like boring and shit like that's like

(10:09):
the weird thing, Like it's just like this is not fun,
like ah. And another one was they did a I
think A Stern made a Black Knight sort sort of fury.
Uh ever heard of Black Knight or I doubt it? Uh.
Black Knight came out like in like the seventies and

(10:32):
it was okay, And then they made a sequel, Black
Night two thousand. That one people really like. It has
like a really great song and it's just fun. And
this sort of theory is not like it's just kind
of boring and like ho hum or. You know, like
they didn't have the song. You guys couldn't license that,

(10:54):
Like what do you get, you know, or like do
a cover or do like a modern version, because like
the eighty one is like it sounds like it sounds
like a hair metal band or something or you know,
like it's just like rocking tune and this is all
this orchestral bullshit. It's like wow, you guys have like
missed the point, haven't you. Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Ah, But other than that, not really. I mean, I'm
playing two games under embargo. One I might be able
to talk about next week I will be able to
do and the other one will be another week out.
But that's about it. And I've been watching a lot
of the Golden Girls, all.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Right, I mean never it can never go wrong with right, Okay, Yeah,
I watched I don't know how many episodes of Golden Girl.
I mean I watched Golding Girls growing up, and then
you know, when they put it on Hulu, I watched

(11:53):
quite a few episodes, and right, try to get my
girlfriend and watched it and she's like, this is funny,
but also like this is not at all, Like yeah, yeah,
you have to have grown up with it.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think I feel like, right, the funniest part to
me about the show, And I like the show and everything,
but like there are occasional episodes. One of the girls
is like dating a guy for like a few weeks, yeah,
and then they're like, I think he's gonna ask me
to marry him, and I'm like, yo, it's been three weeks,
Like what are you talking about? Like it's like like

(12:31):
one of the episodes like Blanche date dates a like
just like uh uh not a uh he has food.
He's a caterer at like a wedding or you know what,
an exhibit, right, And she's like we've been dating a
week and then yet he like asked her to marry him.
And I'm like, what, like, how does this work?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a show. It doesn't.
All right, makes sense. But that's also kind of like
her character.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
So yeah, but and Dorothy as well, So it's like.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, I guess we've got to be equal, equal opportunity, right,
make the jokes, but yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Uh so I played more fall Fantasy that to see
the these chronicles, all my characters are like level twenty
and I've still only like progressed to like the I
think the fourth section. No I'm not, I'm still in
chapter one. I just did a lot of grinding to

(13:44):
kind of get the jobs like mostly out of the way,
you know, like down the down the way a bit,
because uh, some of the you know, because there's a
lot of to get some of the more expansive jobs,
you have to do a lot of leveling with the
you don't have to get them a lot. You know,
the job level doesn't have to be super high, but

(14:07):
you have to get like a lot of jobs at once,
right with.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
The one kid, Like, oh, like the basic jobs like
fighter or made are scandard, but like to get to
like the wizard or like monk or whatever, it's like, oh,
those those are more advanced jobs. You have to like
grind it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Up, right, So there's like the Dancer of the bar,
the some of them more like the mage that's that's
like super awesome or whatever. Like you have to have
like like level five monk and level two Dragoon and

(14:45):
level three thief. And I'm just using an example and
not saying that that's all right. I'm saying, like with
one character, you have to have all those and there's
like different trees on how that starts, so like you know,
it's it's a lot of trying to get those all
the characters kind of like so I'm not seeing there

(15:05):
doing all the grinding at the end. I'm doing it
a lot of it at the beginning, So which probably
doesn't help me with the story missions because the the
random battles those level up with you, right, But the
story missions don't, so yeah, it does make it to

(15:30):
worry I can steamroll those or well, they're not really
like I guess it's more of like I know that
eventually I'm gonna as long as I don't just absolutely
uh you know, just I'm not gonna get challenged that

(15:51):
much as long as I'm not just doing whatever right
as long as I'm confidently going through the mission and
trying to. But I have had like where they took
down a couple of my characters and I'm just like, oh, crap,
do I have the character? Because you know, you have
to make some decisions you don't. What I like about
it is there is a lot of strategy in it

(16:13):
in that, like you're not just every character doesn't just
automatically get to use items, right, So you have to
decide which one of your characters are gonna use items
that are not the mages that can you know, if
you have like a white Mage, great. But and also

(16:35):
those those attacks sometimes may not work out. They may
not happen because if that other character moves that you
were targeting, then the move just doesn't work and then
it's still waste your MP. So you're like essentially just
wasted all that MP for nothing. So it is a

(16:56):
lot of like strategy of like, Okay, I only can
take five characters, and some of these characters don't even
have any healing ability at all, even though I've done
the healing the path where they can use items and
they can use them pretty well, I don't have either
one of those jobs equipped to that character because I'm
trying to use them for something else. And yeah, so

(17:18):
it is sometimes where it's like, oh, crap, I gotta
I can't let this character die because then I have
no way myself at all. So and it does have
permitive if you don't like revive the character after like
three turns or something. So it's like, no, I don't
want to because I only have seven. You can like

(17:40):
go through a section where you're like essentially just roll
a bunch of generic characters and then you can get
them to join your party or whatever, but like if
they die, then they're dead, right, So like I didn't
I only have the eight characters or whatever. I've decided
to like level up from generic to whatever they are,

(18:01):
and it's like I don't want to lose any of
them because then it's like they're gone and I lose
all the work I've done with them, and I don't
want to have to start at level one again. So
you know, I definitely don't want to have to go
through that multiple times for sure, so trying hard not to.

(18:21):
But you can, you can like just you know, reset
the battle before it ends or whatever, or you can
just do the story mode also or whatever if you
don't want to deal with the strategy part of that
game and you want to just you want to just
experience the story, which is supposed to be awesome. I

(18:44):
know that anyone uses term a lot. It was like
Game of Thrones before it was Game of Thrones, but
I have heard that that actually this game actually lives
up to that Moniker some and then that's where the
voice acting helps out a lot. More is that it
makes that story a bit much more impactful now than
it was when you're just reading text. Not not to

(19:07):
say that like it didn't matter because you had to
read text. It's just I think with gaming, like it's
I don't I don't know how you feel sometimes going back.
I don't know if you've gone back recently to go
play like, you know, an older story game or whatever.
But it's like it does feel different when you're reading
texts to when something's voice acted.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't know what I was talking to you about
that Star Trek game last week, Like that is directly
off the show, but they don't have the voice acting
for it. They've kind of hinted that they're going to
get some some for it. We'll see, right, But like
that's a game with a lot of text, like and
it's like I know what these characters sound like in
my head.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So yeah, it's like I don't know that I could go, Like,
I definitely think that Pokemon suffers a lot by not
having uh voice acting when there's so many RPGs that
have it now.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I don't know if it's necessarily needed with some games though,
Like for like Pokemon, like that's not the stories have
to draw in that game.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I feel like it is. At least it definitely wasn't
Scarlet and Violet. I don't know about I haven't played
this game, so I can't say whether it is or not.
But the reason why I haven't like plopped down the
money for Pokemon Legends z A is because the prevailing

(20:45):
thought is that the only thing that they got right
in this game as opposed to Arseus was that the
battle system is awesome because it's very uh Zeno Blade coded,
which is great for me. I love, But if that's
the only draw to it, I don't know that that's
enough for me to spend seventy dollars.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right waituntil it goes on sale for sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, that's the thing I also don't have. I don't
have a need to rush out and buy it because
it's never going to go on sale, and if it does,
it's like what fifty bucks? Right, Like, yeah, it is
one of those games. It's like, if I ever was
going to get something physical, it would be Nintendo above
all else because of game stops like buy to get

(21:32):
one free thing that they do, which I think they're
doing it now right because that's also some people that's
how they bought Pokemon was they just were like, Ah,
there's this other game that I kind of really want
to buy, so why not. It's like that. I think
that's the only like Nintendo that I think. That's part

(21:52):
of it too, is that's why the switch has and
switched to I was was going to follow suit. I
think they have such a big draw to physical because
of that because you don't the games aren't hardly ever
go on sale, right, and you can't take advantage of

(22:13):
when they do happen to do with sale on them
physically or go used and drop the price a bit
or whatever, whereas the other ones, it's like, Okay, yeah,
you're gonna be able to find a physical version of
some game for like twenty bucks on Amazon, but they
will also go on sale for quite a bit on

(22:34):
the you know, on the actual digital stores too. So
all right, you know it's so I do think that
Nintendo kind of helps itself with that and.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
That one thinking of that, I'll just talk about this
real quick Walmart earlier because thinking about all the stuff
we were talking about about Xbox going away. Yeah, so
the Walmart of that, it's like my local one or
one of them had three big ah displays or like

(23:05):
you know, not closet, but you know, big shelving things
for switch games like two two were for Switch one
and one switch two and they switch to one is
like a little little empty year but like they're both
pretty full. And then they had a separate display for
like the consoles and accessories. Uh, PS five and PS
four were mixed. They had like two big closets or

(23:30):
you know the things shelving things. Uh. And then they
had like a smaller one for controllers and then a
smaller one for like consoles and accessories like the disk
drive and like charging ship. Uh. And the two game
ones were pretty full as well. Xbox had one uh display. Ah,

(23:57):
there were only about five consoles in it there or
five bigger consoles and the two serious essays they had
seven games. Yeah, seven compared to the forty and the
Tony one and the ninety or eighty in the Nintendo one.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
How many of Xbox's games are like, it's not even
the disc.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Right right, sounds like the games like Madden Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, the ones they know that would sell Borderlands for Yeah,
like college football maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Uh no, just Madden, okay, just man. Right, we're out
of the college town unfortunately, I guess.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I mean where you your state is No, yeah, my
town isn't. Yeah, you're not in Arbor. You're not around
Lansing either, I guess, right. So yeah, but you know

(25:06):
it's it's yeah, that's interesting. We'll talk about some of
the Xbox stuff and a little bit, but speaking of
Xbox games, they did release a game over the weekend.
Keeper then you double Find Studios Joint and it's it's

(25:28):
pretty good. I think it really kind of depends on
how much of double Find stuff you enjoy. I think
also you kind of have to like remember one, you
have to like walking simulators. And then because the first
part of the game, like the first like I haven't

(25:49):
gotten out of it yet, supposedly with some reviews that
I've watched, the gameplay does change. I don't know how
much more it's gonna really change. Honestly, you're still the
lighthouse walking around. There is some like light puzzle stuff
in the part that I've already gone through, but none
of it is like, oh my god, scratch my head,

(26:11):
I'm not gonna go to go through this right. It's like, oh,
there's three things you have to build, let's go find
the parts of it. Or there's these scandals scattered around
that you have to then turn into a piece, into
a one big piece of a thing. It really is

(26:31):
built to definitely some people were smoking some stuff here.
You know, it wants you to walk around and see
its environment, see the art style, see that kind of stuff.
You know, there is no voice acting. It's not trying
to tell it's telling your story without words. So it
definitely fits into that artsy FARTSI category, right, Like it's

(26:54):
the one that you know, people call the game Awards,
the Oscars and video games. It is definitely the game
that is It's like, it feels like it's going for
the oscar, right. I don't know that it accomplishes that necessarily, but.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
You know, I haven't played it. I know, I know
like the basics of it, but now.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, it's a definitely like it's a it's a really
good game. I feel like I've enjoyed just being in
the environment doing those kind of things. It's short. I've
seen some people said they beat it in like three hours.
I've seen some people that like explored a bit more
that kind of went off the beaten path a little

(27:37):
bit here and there, beat it in like six So
it's definitely not you know, again, it won't take that
that long. It's it's one definitely built for game pass, right, Yeah,
ironically coming out in the last month, the game Pass
exists before the price, like, so you can technically finish
it in the little bit of time you got left

(27:59):
before they race the press at thirty dollars a month. Uh,
their other game that they have coming out tomorrow, and
Ninja Guiden four that things like seventeen chapters long. So
I don't know if you're going to finish that in
like two weeks or whenever your thing expires, but maybe

(28:21):
I don't know it does. It has like an eighty
one on Open Critic right now.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I read some of the reviews. It's all basically like, hey,
the action is good, but the story is bad.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I mean, in Guiden has never had a great Sorry,
it's never been about the story for that game. It's
always been just so convolutedly ridiculous. I guess I've heard
that this one is less convoluted, so I guess right.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Too.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Doesn't activision the rights of that. I don't remember who
who does, but.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean, I know they made one for like the
Weed That Sucked, but that's all I can remember.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
It definitely has been the year of the Ninja, and
this is another one h that that you can add
to that list, between Shnobi, the other Ninja, Goden Games
of Shadows. Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know, technically
yot is a samurai anything. Don't tell people, don't tell

(29:33):
people that they are not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
If you kill people with something sharp, same thing. I mean,
pirates are also are also Ninja's.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right. Yeah, definitely the same thing there. But no, it's
going to be Yeah, I wonder if we'll ever get
the information on on how that's gonna work out, what
they're going to be. You know, how do people are
actually dropping out of Game Pass after this month? Ironically?

(30:09):
You know, I picked it when they had three big
releases here.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I mean, it's funny because I did Disney to talk
about like how much they lost when Jimmy Kimball got suspended,
and it was like double what they normally would have lost.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, no, it was significant. That's why they did it
because people were actually unsubscribing. It wasn't a especially when
they need people to subscribe right now because of you know,
the ESPN they direct the streaming thing, which I would
have unsubscribed if it wasn't because that knocks me out
of that bundle and then I would have had to

(30:42):
pay five more dollars more a month to like be
back in it or whatever. So I was just like, ah,
I want to because I don't agree with what happened,
but it's like I also can't really afford to, and
like basketball season is coming up and I can't. I
was like, it's like the one that I cannot have

(31:03):
it the rest of the year because you know, the
one time the Cowboys are on Monday Night football, I
can just watch the Spanish version, right, and then the
rest of it. I don't, you know, I don't really
need ESPN, but because with the little the plus one,

(31:24):
you get a lot of their stuff anyway, and it's
like eleven bucks a month or whatever instead of the thirty.
But yeah, it is what it is. With that streaming
service is going up constantly. It's yeah, you know, I
don't feel the peacock one because I pay for Exfinity.
But I'm sure that was annoying for a lot of

(31:45):
the ww fans before they moved the paper views out
of there, right, or the pos or whatever. But all right,
that's it for the games that we have been playing.
Let's go ahead and go into the I guess news

(32:07):
or review thoughts or whatever. Since he we're talking about hate,
this is a bad segue. But since we were talking
about Ninja Goud, I think we would be remiss not
to talk about the demand that kind of brought it back, right,
They brought back that the three D version of Ninja

(32:28):
Guy that we're playing now. You know, tominoble Itagaki of course,
Uh he's known really for us being the creator Dead
or Alive, right, which would obviously Rio hi Usa is
is in and you know, kind of brought back Techmo

(32:51):
into being something, you know, after they've kind of gone
away for a while. They had their Heyday and the
Super Nintendo years and then kind of languished until you
had those that that come back with the Ninja gund
and did Her Lives and obviously he kind of like

(33:15):
obviously as time went on he did The Devil's Third
which was not a great game. He kind of like
started going away from gain development as I mean, as
kind of things happen as you get older. But also
he had this like he was also a big proponent

(33:36):
of the Did or Alive Extreme Beach volleyball games, which
were kind of came under fire for that, right, being
big targets of this is why you don't have sexuality
and video games kind of thing, because it was like
straight up like it's only here for one thing, and
we know why.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Right, Action Man what do you want?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
M Yeah, it's one thing that like you can know,
as has happened in a lot of fighting game series
right over the years. You can hide that stuff in
a fighting game, have the keys and things like that.
But when you're like, oh, it's just an entire beach
volleyball game and the other part of it is like

(34:21):
almost like a pseudo dating sim right, you know that,
And it wasn't a great time. This is like during
the time of like what's his name, Jack Trenton or
not Jack, what's his name? The guy that used to
like have a crusade against violent video games for a while.

(34:42):
It was a government Okay, yeah, that's it, so it sucks.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I mean like Jack Thompson though, is more about like
the violence and games, not like sexuality per se, except
he didn't like the like one game Kiss and Bully. Yeah,
and that was also like way way earlier, okay, because
or like they're they're making dead live like I like
the last d a extreme beach volleyball and that's like

(35:13):
I'm the veto.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I mean after they got off like the main
the main consoles kind of like.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean, I think the problem with Agaki is like
after there was a point where he thought like he
got like too big for his breches kind of, or
he thought like he was like the face of the
company or face of the franchises, and it's like you're
not really like you kind of are, but like they
obviously kept making crap after you left.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So he also had this cracked to grind against Tecan
because kind of like said something about.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
A Yeah, but I read that and it's like, well,
like I think he dis misunderstood you're saying, or like
it was like some weird like radio in so or something.
It's like, really, you're getting set up about that, Like
I'd get more fed up that, like Teching his a
sweightly better game.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, I mean he also it's not only the big
for there. He was doing that obviously to get attention, right,
like he was trying to kind of do anything, so like,
oh man, here's this brazen personality he's look at what
he just said. Oh man, man, that's oh he's the
guy that mixed that her alive And know it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
He should have done like a pipe bomb promo or
something like him punk Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
But no, I mean he definitely had his his time
in gaming.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, he's still working. I mean, it's not like he
retired you No.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, he had had done the Samurai Jack Battle Through
Time game right about five years ago. He wasn't a director,
but he was like advising on it.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, and he had some new new studio that I
don't think it dissolved, but it had problems or I
don't know, come out of it, especially now.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But and still fifty eight is so pretty young, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, especially when they're all you know, it's not like
you know, is getting young and younger like or some
of these other you know, old heads, like right, what
was it Nobo? I forget his last both. Yeah, it's like, oh,
I'm not gonna use AI and music, you know production.

(37:30):
It's like, didn't you retire?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like yeah, I think like I think we make Part
three is like the last.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Like made keep saying it is looking to be my
last game more.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's like all right, well, I mean he's really not
even like he only comes in to do like the
main song and then he likest of it's done by
other people.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
So and again he's not like that old either. He's
sixty six, Like they're believe me, like, you know, Yens's
hero youry Goldsman. It was correct until like the dance,
you know, the end, and he died and he's like
mid seventies, I think. Yeah, so yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, it definitely is sad condolence to the family. And
then he did.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Have a he made his mark, and you know, he
made a franchise and he brought one back, and yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Mean it kind of sucks that like de her Live
is kind of like in the ether or whatever. Now
whether it's just like it.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Became oh I'm thinking a virtual fighter, that's right.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, no, yeah, Detter Live is kind of like they
did that like Live Service version of six, and then
it's kind of just been there and no more you know,
cared about it. So, I mean they did a lot
of work with Xbox, right, like they were big on

(38:57):
like being an Xbox and Xbox exclusive for a while.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I mean, yeah, it's a problem when you have when
you're owned by another company and owned by company that
also has a competing three D three D fighting franchise
that is markedly more popular than the other ones.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, exactly, So that's also an issue too. Yeah, well
all right, we go from that too, since I did mention. Uh,
you know, they had a lot of cohesion with Xbox. Uh.
Sarabond Uh did an interview with Variety where, of course,

(39:39):
the the major sticky point for a lot of people
and it's I watched a lot of reviews on the
thing on the Xbox all I X and Xbox ally
is that one thousand dollars price point? Right? And Sera
bond H in the interview essentially kind of I guess
you can call it shift or just say, hey, this

(40:02):
is not our hardware. This hardware was made by Asus.
We're kind of just the branding. We're just the marketing.
When it came to pricing, asues.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
My question, Yeah, I heard what that would be. Okay,
if this was your if this weather device, how much
would you be charging for it? And then yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Know the thing is that this doesn't help you, right,
It doesn't help you when you your company themselves have
done price increases recently.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
You know you can kind of try like this is
one of those where it's like, oh, we're so tired
of all the negative news about us. That's like, okay,
let's find a way to like make it to where
we're not talking about Xbox pricing stuff for xboxes, uscles

(41:00):
not dying or whatever. You know, so why not do
this or what you know, let's let's try to shift
the blame or say it well, which is you know,
it's not It's not a lie what she's saying. Technically,
it is a rog ally Essentially, if you went and

(41:23):
bought the rog Xbox ally X or not Xbox, the
rog l I X it's essentially that, but just has
a better chip in it, and it has that Xbox
wull screen experience or whatever in it, which you know, uh,
that in itself is not uh totally great. And Sarabon

(41:49):
mentions that that their goal is to by the time
you have the consoles come out or whatever, this console
is going to be this PC. Then it's going to
have better compatibility and that, and that is seems to
be the major thing with a lot of the reviews.
It's like, this is a great PC hand out PC,

(42:10):
it sucks as an Xbox, uh. And then when you're
going around telling everybody this is an Xbox, uh, when
it actually kind of really isn't and you have to
fiddle with it a lot to get a lot of
these games to run well.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Well, I like I like the work part where it's like,
you know, if you take the switch to out of
the box, it does maybe like an update or two.
You'll get it work with in like ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah you got to put all your games on it
again or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Even just like turning it on, you know, or just
getting work on the stores at ten minutes or this
team makes think kind of the same way. But like
the rog ally is like oh wait, wait two hours. Yeah,
they like a million Windows updates and it's what the
fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It's like also like why why do why is it
updating teams and like all this other.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Craft that why is teams included at all?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Like yeah, like this is the kind of thing that
if like, if you're going to have a console, a
thing that you're gonna tell me is plug it to
my TV. I better have an option that does not
ever sniff installing all this crap that I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Need, you know, what, to come bundled with the thing
that every game I wants a trial version of Office
three sixty five.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, like come on, man, I know some people dock
it and they'll use it as a PC or whatever,
but bro nobody's doing that, man, Like you stick contry,
it's a it's a thing that you hold and play
games with. Like, I understand that this seems to be
a thing that they wanted to just get out there

(43:52):
to see what the what people thought of it and
what people like, if there was excitement for it or whatever.
But in two years time, if you guys, if if
Microsoft cannot allow the Xbox team that actually make like
a gaming version of this where it just completely goes

(44:13):
into the Xbox UI and I don't ever have to
see Windows outside of like, oh, it needs you to
install Steam and needs you to install this, then you
have failed, because that's the whole point. And I think
the more and more. If you're going to charge whatever
it is, twelve hundred dollars for that next console and

(44:39):
you're gonna have people having to go figure out how
to make this thing run right, well, then I don't know,
I feel like it you're not gonna get You're not
going to sell the normal, the normy gamer or even
the console the people that are your Xbox console gamers

(45:02):
to move over to your next thing because it's like,
well I might as well as buy a PC so
or by a laptop or you know whatever. So if
Sony's gonna be the only traditional console out there, you
may just get a lot more people going over to
Sony even more and just being like, Okay, well I'm
completely done with your ecosystem or whatever. So I think definitely.

(45:26):
What's what Sarah Bond is saying here. It's great again
that they're confirming that there is next shen hardware, but
it's like, y'all really need to nail this stuff. Y'all
really gotta nail How am I going to play my
Xbox games? You know? Is it going to be with
an emulator? Is it going to boot into something that's like, oh,

(45:47):
it's console mode, here's console mode. I heard some people
talking about like they technically could make like, you know,
just kind of like you do with a PC. Right,
they could say, Okay, we need two versions. We need
whatever version it's gonna be the PS six version that's
gonna be our console mode version, and then you can

(46:09):
have the other version that's like, okay, this is the
PC version where you can go in and mess with
the the frame rate and mess with the other stuff
and decide to want to overclock something or whatever. You know,
like you got to get people the simple version that
still is plug and play, because if you take that
out of it, as much as you know, more and

(46:30):
more people are going towards PCs and kind of understanding that,
I think you're still going to get a lot of
the people that are like, look, I've only ever owned consoles,
I'm not used to this, and then they'll gladly return
it for something what's simple, right, You got even returning
the portal because they didn't understand that they had to
have the PS five to use it. So imagine that,

(46:53):
and that thing is just literally turning it on, putting
in your Wi Fi and then turning on your PS
five and linking it.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
You know. I don't know if you saw I was
on Blue Sky, but like I think like Dan Reyker
bought that thing like the Xbox, and like it broke
or part of it like busted on him. He couldn't
like access like the thumb print of the fingerprint reader, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Because it's like on another button on the top.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah. And then like he couldn't like figure out how
to like put in like his password because there's no
like virtual keyboard or like he had like like nine
nine you know, steps into it to get to access
to it, and this is fucked. Like again, it's not
like a dumb guy. He might now they like he's
not a tech guy necessarily, but like he's played the

(47:41):
games or he knows that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah I saw that, like Jeff Black stumbled onto the
full screen experience by accident after five updates or whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I think like Dan had like basically use his
phone at a certain point to get like a pin
or something. This is messed up, Like, yeah, that's for
like him. Like imagine like just some like fifteen old
getting that thing all right, oh.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Not even the like just somebody our age that is
never really played much PC gaming, right, And and they're
like why do I have to update Windows? And then
not on the update? Oh and now that's the Xbox
app and now it's updating like fifty things that I'm
never gonna use. And then it's updating this and it's
like okay, you know, oh I now I got to

(48:30):
update Armory Create. Like that's another thing too. It's like
I kept seeing how like Armory Crate, the Xbox button,
the library thing, they all do the same thing. And
it's like just like, you know, why do you have
four buttons that all do the same thing because you
have to have this in order for a suits to
to to allow you to have this thing, have the

(48:52):
Xbox button, I had to have armory crate too, And
it's like, this is why you need your own dedicated
thing because having all of these extra things in here,
it's even more convoluted for people. It just makes no sense, right,
So you know, it kind of just made me be like, well,
I don't need this as an Xbox because it's not

(49:14):
going to do the Xbox thing. Like, if anything, I
would probably just go buy used rog l I X
and just get that. It's like four hundred dollars cheaper
and it has almost as good you know, processing and
all that stuff. And either way, I'd just be using
it to play indie games and whatever that are like

(49:37):
PC only so and be able to take advantage of
the sales and stuff like that that Like, you know what,
as much as the switch to is awesome, there's just
certain sales that are like never going to happen on
that just right. So you know, look, I think I
think it's great that those things exist. I just hope

(49:59):
that Xbox is still going to do their own thing,
and they do kind of continue to continue to work
on that. They have two years to work on it,
maybe three, depending on you know, what happens if they
delay the generation a little bit, as we talked about
last week. But yeah, let's let's see what happens with

(50:22):
that for sure. But also interesting because this may have
this could affect the price of the next thing is
there was a report from Nick that Microsoft is definitely
moving the surface production starting in twenty twenty six at

(50:42):
the earliest, away from China, as you know, whatever. This
person that's the president says he has a deal with
China one day, and then he doesn't have a deal
with China the next day, and right whatever. It's very
volatile time for production in China. So and and this

(51:07):
is the surface product that they continue. That's the other
thing too, is like they keep making surfaces, and I
wonder how people are actually buying those things.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Ah, except for like business people or you know, like
it's so specific that it rarely makes a dent.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
You know, like everybody has the tablet. Like a tablet
is just so universal.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
A tablet is it's either one of three things. The
tablet is is your an iPad. It's either like a
high end Android tablet or it's a low Android tablet,
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, that's that's where it's just like, Okay, they keep
making these things.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
A decade, you know, we know that it started, and
they keep going away. They keep going at it, but
it's like, how are you increasing your market share at all?
Or what's going on?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I feel Yeah, it's kind of like Xbox. It's like
they have to make the console at some point because
then you lose all the people that are subscribed to
game Pass and and they're like, you're only people that
are willing to pay for anything. So it's like, oh,
we got to keep doing it. So but this also
leads to possibility that it's not confirmed like the surface,

(52:23):
but they also may move Xbox manufacturing out of there.
This of course also comes where right now there's talk
of you know, one hundred percent tariffs on China, but
like this, this stuff is changes by the day, so
that stuff doesn't necessarily matter right now because that's not happening.

(52:45):
They're not moving it out of China for like another
you know, six months or a year. So yeah, by
the time they move it out of there or whatever,
how much of a difference will it make. We'll see
if they do it at all.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
But maybe maybe good news, right because Sony hinted that
they could do that as well. So even though they've
already moved some of their stuff to like other countries, right,
but they heke Tokey did talk about that they could
move it possibly to go move it into the United
States as well. So also, you know, to those of

(53:31):
you that maybe don't use your your computers that often
Microsoft Windows ten security updates have finished as of the fourteenth.
Mark was talking to me about like apparently you can
sign up for like another year of like free updates.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
It has extension security program or something like that. I
forget the name of it, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But technically, Ryan, now you're not getting safety and security
updates on Windows ten. So they want to push everybody
to go into Windows eleven, which apparently sucks even more
for gaming.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I mean, there are people that like saying that whendow
was eleven is like not bad or you know, they
don't teo different, but like my experience is terrible, so
you know, yeah, I think it's just random.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
My plan is hopefully at some point, like very early
into next year, even though pre builts apparently are like
absolutely overpriced. Right now, is I'm wanting to really get
a laptop. Yeah, Also because this one will be eight

(54:45):
years or nine years old at that point, I really
need to get a new one. So it just that's
my plan is to hopefully moving to that territory where
it won't matter. I just don't want to stop Windows
eleven on this thing, because it's like I don't want

(55:06):
this to perform worse than it kind of what he does, right,
I'm just I'm happy right now that it can do
this podcast, right.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I mean, once you get your a computer can handle
like the extended security Updates program, I mean that'll be
another year at least. Yeah, there are ways to like
there's like when Windows when does ten reason get can
get to like five more years of security updates if
you do some like trickery with it. I might do that.
Also because my laptop was was two years old. It
came with Windows eleven like pre built or like already

(55:38):
on it, and I downgated the Windows ten.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
So it's crazy how quickly they Well how long has
that been around?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Like Windows Time has been out for ten years? Wow?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
God, how time flast seriously. Yeah, but it feels that
they supported Windows XP like longer, but maybe they didn't.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Just that was like seventeen years. Yeah, see, like you know,
so that was good like Windows xpos are great institutionalized
or like so ingrained in certain Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
And then also it didn't help that like nobody like
Windows eight, right, So it's like Windows eight was like
a before It's time because it was like when we
just started getting people started really using tablets and touchscreens.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, but then the problem Windows eight is it doesn't
do either one well, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Like does it? And then what sucks is like Xboxes
UI at some point has like some Windows eight like remnants.
It feels like yep, so it's like, okay, we're not
even this computer like because it still has like the apps,
the Microsoft App Store thing, and it's like it wants

(56:53):
you almost sort of to be like a tablet, but
it's like I don't want to install the apps that way.
It's like no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
So yeah, but yeah, I was looking to extended security update.
And then if when you're getting your laptop, try one
Doo's eleven, then you don't like to go back to
Windows time.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, for sure, but all right, moving from that something
that maybe could impact gaming as a whole, because we
have heard our government talk about you know, violent video games,
volid video games, and you know, that's why the u
SRB exists all that stuff, because it was an issue
in the nineties. But it feels like right now, with

(57:34):
all the other things going on, it has kind of
come up. With all the political issues and violence right
especially the United States, it feels like, unfortunately, we can't
get away from some mass shooting happening almost every day
in Mexico. They are it's already onto their Senate, so

(58:03):
some part of it has already voted on this. There's
a proposal that would tax games rated essentially M and
adults only. There's not really that many adults only games
to be fair, right, none that are like mass market anymore.
That was only like it was a BMX triple X
when we had those that time, where like people were
really trying to push.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
The yeah that was only the one yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
And then they quickly censored it because they were like, oh,
nobody's going to buy this game.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah, wasn't going to be sold in like Walmart or
you know, or it was like that and like the
punish her name and they you know, the quickly censored both.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Right, So in Mexico it's rated C and D, so
C is like the M rating and then D is
adults only. It was first opposed and only September that
they found studies relationship between the use of viold video
games and higher levels of aggression among the adolescents.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
With that.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Has always kind of been a great area of whether
that's really been proven or not. But you know, nowadays
is more studies come out. They literally have studies that
negate each other half the time when it comes to hell,
so you never know. But this new tax would apply
to all games, both physical and digital. For free to

(59:22):
play titles, there would be an eight percent tax that
would be applied to in game purchase of micro transactions,
so even free to play games would not be able
to escape this, which I'd imagine if you start affecting
that group, you could definitely have issues there if you're
putting taxes on even the micro transactions stuff. You know.

(59:47):
So it is going to the Senate to be debated,
but this could obviously affect like granted Thottle six, Mortal Combat,
anything that kind of has like that violent tinge to it, right,
any there's a lot of games nowadays that come out
mature rated and we don't even think about it because
of how much in the background that rating system has become. Honestly, so,

(01:00:13):
are are you concerned that if this gets past in
Mexico that this may give other governments the the kind
of the impetus to say, oh, let's see that here too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
No. I think if it happened, if it happened like Mexico,
what they would do. A lot of game companies would
just turn off access and then you think, yeah, and
then wait for you know, people to get pissed and
then they'll you know, veto it or revoke it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I don't know, I could see our government at least
putting it out there that this might be I mean,
it's been brought up before. I could see it well
being brought up let's vote.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah. The other thing about what you're saying, know is
it would mean giving credit to Mexico and that under
the current administration that would never fly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
So right, I just think I feel like the issue
with this is how much would the ESA get involved,
as they are a lobbying group for all the publishers
in the United States at least, like you know how
much of especially when you're talking about that, we're gonna

(01:01:31):
we're going to make it a problem for you to
buy Grand Theft Auto six, perhaps the biggest video game
release of all all time. I don't know, I feel
like that's not gonna fly very well, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Right, that's what That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, like
if you screw with people then wanting DTA six or
you know, more to Kombat or whatever, then just get
fisted and then then they will start violence.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Hmm, Yeah, I wonder, But yeah, I think even the companies,
like I think rock Star would definitely start challenging that
in court. Is that constitutional and all that kind of stuff,
you know? Uh so, But it is interesting if this
like to see a law like this past. We do
have other regions that like have stricter, you know, stricter

(01:02:24):
rating policies and that kind of thing too, that that
olverdy exists. So the EU and the UK do a
great job of like trying to very prou you know,
against gambling and micro transactions and stuff like that, as
it is. So, but this is like a different thing.

(01:02:45):
You're you're essentially just taxing something because it has a
like imagine if we did this with like R rated movies, right,
Like we just we made the tickets already more expensive
immediately because it was an R rated movie. Uh, I
don't know that. That just doesn't seem to work here, right.

(01:03:06):
Sassa's Creed, one of their major major contributors in the
recently for the franchise, Mark Alexis Kote has left Ubisoft. Uh.
This basically occurred because of the Vantage Studio subsidiary that
has you know, is majorly owned by Tensa still being

(01:03:30):
run by you know, a member of the the GM clan.
He was kind of like asked to leave essentially, right, Yeah,
because he he kind of basically just wasn't cool with it,

(01:03:50):
right he.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I mean, would you be?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I wouldn't either, And I wouldn't. But there's a lot
of people that will turn a blind eye because of
It's like there's just it's kind of like the Saudi
Arabia thing, right, Like right with THEA, It's like there
is opposition.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
We already have some people in Congress trying to make
a big deal about it, and I think there their
union already voted against it, not that they really have,
must say, because it's how much city do they really have?
It's much more about the the investors and all that
stuff that would have to turn it down. But yeah,

(01:04:28):
I think they kind of just they know that he's
going to be against it, so it's like, well, you
might as well get you to to go, you know,
you're already locked in, and then it becomes a problem.
Look they're I do I'm more worried about this as

(01:04:48):
far as like not I don't know how much more
tensions involvement really matters, because it's not like tensions didn't
already have like probably have had a bit more say
than they want to let on and do you be
stopt as that it currently exists anyway? I just I'm

(01:05:09):
more worried about what this means for like the franchises
that are still a rank you know in that like
what they said they're making essentially like an Assassin's Creed everything,
like multiple games, all kinds of different like Assassin's Creed things,
and it's just like, man, we are really uh just

(01:05:29):
going to town on one franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Here, Yeah, because I think got left.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I do you worry about that? Like essentially just the
sales will just keep dwindling to the point where maybe
you don't get another Assassin's Creed at one point, or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I mean in the long run maybe because I know,
you know, I assume whatever Assassine screed fourth thing you're
gonna do is probably gonna be okay, depending on how
bad they suck it up or not. Uh right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
They still have that uh hexy the Salem Witch Trials one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Right, uh, and that might be okay, but I mean
you can only go kind of go back to that
well so often, and it's not like it's that it's
not like call of duty when they can just pump
one of those out every year every two years. Like, yeah,
games take time, and you know, I think the problem
is like that franchise has lost a lot of what

(01:06:26):
it was or what it made kind of made it special,
and I like shadows fun, getting me wrong, but it
ain't the it ain't the best game in that franchise.
Uh even by it's probably like near the middle, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I mean I just wonder like what it means
they're like we already know they're making a seems like
a live service far cry right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I mean the bigger. Uh there's I forget this thiselebrity
that they were rumoring with that recently, but like, oh
there's big man actress and me in far Crist seven.
It's like what for twenty minutes? Like you know, it's
like John Carlo and the last one, you know, show
up for like a day or two to act and
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Like, yeah, they did, they did heavily promote him for
that game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Yeah. Yeah, they said he's in the front a half
hour or but you know he's barely in its Yeah,
what a waste or you know, like I mean, I
like John Carlos because you don't know anything wrong and
he is in the name, but like to base like
a lot of your like marketing material on him and
him not being in the game at all or you know, barely,
like that seems kind of like a lie. Yeah, and

(01:07:44):
then like you know, they can they can't even get
like the other franchises up the ground, like who knows
about splinter Cell or that other you know, Prince of
Persia either one at this point like the remake of
Sands of Time and that other one that the roguelike one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah, uh well the rod Black one is is out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It's out, but I think it's from like early access
or you know, like who knows, Yeah, how long it'll
be till they's like, all right, it's finished enough, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
That work is the one that's interesting way out, Like,
is that ever gonna actually get made?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Right? Don't worry though, it still got beyond good and
evil to to save all our all their assets.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah, exactly, we'll see. I mean, like A Shadows has
done well right, but as time goes on, will they
be I want to keep capitalizing on that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I really want them to stop. I mean, I guess
it has to be profitable because they keep putting in there.
But I went then to stopped the last service Craft
and Assassin's Creed like all together and get back to
like the you know, the actual framework of the story
of present made people going in the past, you know,
and the you know, past memories, but they've watched back completely.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
It's that that's just totally lost.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
The funny thing is like YenS doesn't like a Fasson's
Creed because of that, because of that conceit like even
like even to like the first game, He's like, oh,
I don't you Basically I don't like it when they went,
you know, what's in the present, but they're going into
the past, Like, why couldn't they make a cool you
know past action game or you know, stealth game or
whatever it's like, because then you can't make sequels, you know,

(01:09:39):
then you can't go into other areas, you know, other
time zones or other areas to explore. You know, Like
that framework is great because it lets them do you know,
Ninja Assassin's Creed or going into Victoria and England as
Assassin's Creed. But they've just like and now it's just

(01:10:01):
and now it is basically what he wants, like no
resenty bullshit, and so here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah, definitely. Uh moving on from that to another company
that making some weird decisions, a Quantic Dream, Right, they're
still apparently working on that Star Wars story game, but

(01:10:27):
now they are apparently working on a competitive multiplayer team
based three B three strategy and action game with a
fantasy setting. It seems like they're trying to do a
lot of things at once. Here you're taking control of
stillcasters who are archetyped during mages with their own identities, roles,
and senature abilities, including so many creatures and casting spells.

(01:10:50):
You can fly around the arena. It's supposed to be
a three B three fast based twenty five minutes shown
across mystical arenas epic skill, and verticality. There's a deck
building system in it, of course, as as your fifty
spells and summons. Yeah and yeah, this is from a

(01:11:13):
company that's obviously known for the epic you know, right,
single player games. It doesn't mean that they can't do that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
No, it does. It means they can't do it because
look look what just happened to uh, you know, fire
Break and Remedy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah, no, definitely, or you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Know why studios do this. It's like if I'm less,
like what they make doesn't sell, in which case, yes,
pivot to try to do something else. But if you
have if you're good at one game genre of one
game you know, game type, and you try to do
it's almost always gonna fail.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Yeah, I don't know, Like it's it's kind of weird
because it's that, for one, it's just like out of
nowhere you announced it, and it's like, okay, this is
a lot in one post.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
That kind of it. It feels like you're trying to
like throw spaghetti at the wall and it sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, it's like, oh, here's all of the buzzwords of
things that we know people like nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I mean it's only it's only too they're missing as
roguelike and you know souls like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yeah, right, who knows that they don't try to make
it a rogue like as well? Right somehow. Look, I
don't want to hate on something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
But you know, well, let me ask you. Does this
interest you at all?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
No? It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I mean it just it weirdly smacks of like
Sony's like Live Service Mantra or you know, like their requirement,
but they're not owned by Sony, Like, so what's going
on here? Like the David Cage just lose his mind,

(01:13:16):
which is a distinct possibility, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Yeah, maybe it could, you know. I mean I just
think that it's like almost every studio now. I think
it kind of shows the whole Oh, we've got to
find a way to have recurring revenue, right, to be
able to kind of be self sufficient because we can't

(01:13:44):
get enough funding with the one game that we're making.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Yeah, but like what costs more? Single player Star wars
game or whatever thing you're gonna make next, or a
multiplayer shooter or a multiplayer card game deck you know,
deck Battler, Like, yeah, I mean single players. I mean sorry,

(01:14:09):
multiplayers is always gonna be more expensive because you have
to build the infrastructure to support a multiplayer game. Single
player is simpler because of course it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Okay, I mean yeah, it's it's what it's like, it is.
I mean, but that's the thing is like they're used
to doing certain things a certain way. They can tell
these grand stories which we know. But it's like okay,
and you can weave that into multiplayer games or whatever.
But it's like most people don't care, right, uh, and

(01:14:46):
if you do, it's gonna be something that like you
think about it for a moment and you go back
to playing the the multiplayer part, and it's like if
this sucks, it's like, well then you just it's this
is a major issue that that a lot of this
with the same thing with Sony, right, it's like, Okay,

(01:15:09):
we do these awesome single player games, but it's like
we need one of these multiplayer games to hit because
if we don't, you know, how can we justify spending
all this money on Spider Man or Intergalactic or whatever
other thing, right, you know, same thing with like partially

(01:15:32):
probably the reason why Sucker Punch can't be more than
a one game studio.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
That yeah, yeah, no wants to say it stay a
single player studio.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
No, Like they they're saying that they can only do
one game, right, that they want to remain a one
game studio. They don't want, you know, because people have
been talking about like, oh, y'all should go back and
make Sly, right, or I go back and do Infamous.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
They don't. Here's the thing is, like if they're not
only to slide, it's fine, but no one else is
stepping up to the plate to do it either, Like
you have to wonder are they like are they holding
on to it or some other studios like hey we
can make Sply, you can make a better slide game
or the modern one? Would they would they allow it

(01:16:24):
or not? Or are they like territorial about their franchises.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
I don't know if it's that or if it's just
Sony right, like you already have Astrobot. We know that
Insomniac is working on now. Insomniac is big enough where
they can do multiple games, right, so they are apparently
there is a small team that is supposedly rumored working
on the next Ratchet client. So you already have two

(01:16:51):
studios working on the platform or more family game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Right, Yeah, but Slide doesn't quite fit into that because
it's it's a you know, it's health game or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I know, but it's it's still a platform or also
and again like they had that on sorrou Studio do
for it's just a problem nobody bought it and I
and I don't and I don't think that it most
people aren't going to really pay attention that it's not
Insomniac man or that that it's not sucker Punch, right
like you, we're just gonna see Slight four and they're

(01:17:25):
gonna either buy it or not. Yeah, and it was
a competently well done game regardless of whether it wasn't
a sucker Punch or not. I just think that it's
like I understand what what uh mister Fleming is Brian
Fleming is saying is that whatever they make is gonna
take five years at minimum, So whatever we choose to do,

(01:17:49):
it's like he says, it's like deciding to picking a
new major every year every time, and he's like, we're
not big enough to be a will to do like, oh,
some of us go and do a new Slot, some
of us go and do a new Infamous, which Infamous.
I do think that it's it's been long enough where

(01:18:10):
you could do remasters of Infamous one and two, and
I think they could do decent. But also I do
agree that it's like Insomniac also as a hole on
the superheroes. Uh, does somebody want something that's a superhero
game that's not the Marvel ones that are already exist

(01:18:32):
in the Sony banner, right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I think like I think you could, uh, because you
might be a lot more creative or you know, you
can make whatever you want because not the hold in
the Marvel or whatever weird rules are gonna have a
right and it's gonna be like, oh, I don't know
if I don't know how much of that how much
open world that Wolverine game looks like personally, like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I don't think honestly it really shouldn't be because it's
not like Wolverine's known for like let's go all across
the city or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Like final It's not like he can like web swing.
I mean, yeah, climb up walls, but it's like, okay,
what do you do after that? You know, looks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
More like ass as Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
It looks a lot more like linear than Spider Man.
Or it looks a lot more like that Wolverine game
from like fifteen years ago, which is fine, don't get
me wrong, but I think like an open world or
superhero game, it's still great. Yeah, And I think, like again,
I think someone some other studios to take a crack at,

(01:19:38):
like Infamous, be like here's a whole new character or
homeless set of powers, and yeah, you know, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Sure, all right, so a couple of things just to
kind of end the show here. Battlefield six has sold
a lot more than seven million cop in its first
three days, which is setting a record for a series sales.
I had one hundred and seventy two million masters played

(01:20:08):
online over the three day weekend it, which is crazy.
Over fifteen million hours watched on shooting services. Right, feels
like YA has a big hit on its hands here.
After all the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
You know, so the next the next few weeks and
then will come out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
That's that's gonna be the thing, right, it's like, is
there gonna be this robbery with Battlefield six and Call
of Duty? Are they gonna be people saying, look, I'm
not playing called Udi. I'm gonna go back to play Bandfield,
like right, that's gonna be fun, Like you know what
gaming needs these kind of things, Like that's the thing
that I really miss again from the big like the
football games not only being having one in the basketball

(01:20:51):
games only having one and baseball same thing of like,
you know, it was cool to have like competing people
saying like, oh man, I rock with two K, know,
I rock with Madden and I rock with you know,
and it's like same thing. Even like a football is

(01:21:12):
such a shell of itself that it's like it's the
fact though that it's sports even without the FIFA license,
right though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
You know I put a football story in there for you,
so yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
I was trying to seg segway myself there. FIFA did
finally after there was rumors that they might sign a
deal with two K, they supposed to signed a deal
with like a mobile game thing, but you know, they
have signed a licensing deal with for Football Manager, which
will unveil in twenty for the football Manager of twenty

(01:21:47):
twenty six. Of course twenty five to one got canceled,
but it's going to have the FIFA World Cup, peofa
Women's World Cup, people Club World Cup, all that stuff,
all the eight teams with official kits and all that stuff,
which that's cool. Hey, that makes Football Manager twenty six

(01:22:09):
uh more appeliate to people, I guess. But Football Manager
twenty six, very much like the EA one, already has
a player base. Like I don't think it needed this
really to to push you because yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Have to wonder how how much is this going to
generate new new players or new customers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
I think will It helps also that it's on game
Pass and all that stuff, which you know it has
been for many years now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
But like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
I do think it'll get some people, right, but it's not.
It's a different brand of you're not going out there
and playing. You're not out there on the field on
the on the yeah, you're controlling the which a lot
of people do like to do that. This is more
of the hardcore already know about soccer player base. This
is essentially taking the extreme parts of the player base

(01:23:04):
and going, oh yeah, I love the tactics part of
the you know which I love that part. I love
that part of soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Too, tactics where the monk is the best class exactly. Yes,
but I like, does this move the needle enough for
how much it's gonna cost, And that's I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
I mean it. I think it will definitely help sell,
right if this is the official game of the FIFA
World Cup or whatever, then yeah, it'll sell. It'll move
some people. I wonder how many people are going to
realize that you can't play on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
The field, yes the head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah, you're playing like that, Yeah, that old NFL Coach
game or whatever. So it's like you can move the
pieces around and you can decide who plays or whatever.
But you're watching like a simulation version of it, you know.
So it's kind of like the fantasy fantasy football version

(01:24:16):
of that. Which, again, this is a very popular game
and it's already has its fans. It's gonna sell in
its niche. I do think that this helps people that
necessarily don't play those games maybe sell, but I don't
think it's gonna be like this explosion of sales outside

(01:24:40):
of the regions that already play these games. So yeah,
I do wonder how much of a licensing fee there
is for this, like you said, and how much this
is really gonna do anything? Like I said, I do
think that the having the official branding of uh, the

(01:25:07):
the FIFA, this is the FIFA World Cup game, it's
gonna help. But it's like it almost feels like like
we talked about with the rog Xbox ally and the
four or whatever, how many of people are going to
be like, oh, this is not like FC, Like let
me take this back. I mean, I hope that if
you're looking at it and going, oh, the World Cup whatever, like,

(01:25:30):
please do your your due diligence before you buy it,
because you know, football manager, sometimes it's there. It is
kind of like it might be there for like fifty
bucks or whatever, sixty bucks, but it's it's not like
it's a cheap game, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
You know remember that Wrestling Federation game I want to
eat or like, yeah, Adam tried to stick me with
and I tried to stick with you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Yeah that definitely not for me. Oh I have a
friend that loves loves that kind of stuff. Uh, but yeah,
it's it'll be fine, It'll be right. Uh but yeah,
let's I guess let's go ahead and end the show
as we always do, looking at the games that are

(01:26:13):
coming out in this upcoming week. I did already mention
the probably the biggest one, which is Ninja guid In four,
will be out by the time you're watching listening to this. Yeah,
it'll be on on PCPs IVE, Xbox and on game
pass A Jurassic World Evolution three. I'm surprised you didn't.

(01:26:37):
Did you try to get a code for them?

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Nope. I don't like city builders, which I mean I
try to, but yeah, the genre, I can't. I can't crack.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
The remake of Painkiller also comes out the same day
for the same consoles. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines to also
come that the same day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Finally, after all development or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Changing developers, changing all all this kind of stuff, dispatch
the the next Like the Superhero Tinge narrative game from
the people that do the Telltale games. This is PC
and p S five only that's gonna come out in

(01:27:29):
a cadence of like two episodes every couple of weeks.
So if you buy that, just know that you're not
getting the whole game in one go. Angry video game
nerd eight bit game is also coming on the twenty three.
That's coming to like Everything, Value Star which is the

(01:27:49):
next Annapurna thing, which is like a mech with a
roguelike and something else coming everything Else. Definitely not for me.
Double Dragon Revive also coming to Everything but Switch. Been
waiting for that Double Dragon game.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Yeah, yeah, person, they reload comes to Switch to some
folks are excited about that. Uh that that didn't don't
have another way to play, and they got another plane
on Switch too. I'm sure that definitely go check this out.
Plus the zombies replanted, I know you said you were.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Kind of looking forward to this, right, Hopefully it's good
and not full of usual garbage.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
That's coming to Everything. Literally powerwas Simulator too. It's also
coming out in the twenty third, So definitely I love
the first game. A lot of people did obviously right,
great game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Aim to just hey go we'll put it on podcasts
and zen you know, uh that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
So it's also going to be Day one game pass
as well, so hey there. They said they were bringing
the games. They definitely brought it for October.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
They they are bringing a lot of games here and
they got out of Worlds too coming. Uh those reviews
actually should be are coming this week, I think on
Thursday or Friday, so let's see, uh how that goes.
The Loansome Guild, which looks pretty neat cutec that's coming
on to PA, Xbox and PC jack Box Party Pack eleven.

(01:29:46):
They're still making those and rocking it and those that's
coming everything as well. Tormented Souls, done by Latin American
dev is also coming out on the twenty third as well. Yeah,
there's a lot and Once Upon a Kadamori also coming

(01:30:08):
on twenty fourth, that's coming to everything. Yeah, that looks
really cool. First few Kadamari game in like went nine
years or.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Something or maybe, but yeah, at least a console one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yeah well console, yeah, console because they have that new
one that's only for like Apple Arcade or whatever. But right, yeah,
this is it looks like it's gonna be awesome. So yeah,
a lot a lot Hot Wheels and Fast and the
Furious having a game on the same day it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
And off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Chicken Run game is coming out on October twenty fourth
as well. Chicken Run Extraction that's coming everything. Dorothy Explorer
has a game on the twenty fourth. My god, everything
is coming during this week, so.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yeah, for sure, but it's definitely I kind of tend
to say this a lot sometimes, but this week, definitely
there is something for everybody here. If you're you know,
you kind of tend to keep up with the new
ish games and you know you're waiting for something before
we get to the call of duty's and all that. Right, Uh,

(01:31:25):
something we're checking out there, but all right, until next week.
Thank you everybody for watching listening. We do appreciation checking
out the show. Follow like subscribe, listen wherever you can
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