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about to dive deep into another interview. Before I bring
my guest on, I do want to say this is
the frequency of the fearless. You know, sometimes chaos isn't
the enemy it's the canvas. Some people get lost in
the storm, others discover they are the storm. Today's guest
doesn't just make music, he makes cinema for the ears.
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His work pulls from metal, hip hop and the raw
pulse of the club, weaving them into the stories of survival, transformation,
and balance. You're not just here for a talk show.
And this isn't just radio. This is revival for your mind, body,
and spirit. This is Vigilante's Radio life. My name is Koshdini,
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and change is possible. Are you ready? Are huge ready?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Are you ready to read? Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, let's go, let's go. All right, all right again,
and welcome to the show. You're listening to VRL. That's
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and sometimes even past that thing that we call the ego.
Our interviews are designed to go behind the scenes into
the minds of these incredible human beings, you know, the
ones who are out there given. If they're all for me,
for you and for the world, well, ladies and gentlemen,
today's guests emerging from the Los Angeles. From Los Angeles,
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with the voice as sematic as it is fearless, Ethos
Fane is proven that chaos can be art. Blending hip hop,
metal and the energy of club music, he crabts records
that challenge, provoke, and uplift. His upcoming single, Vertigo isn't
just a song, it's a declaration of balance and survival.
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With this debut album, a very young entity on the horizon,
he's inviting listeners into a universe of order and chaos.
So please join me in saying welcome friend to Ethos Fame. Hey, hey,
welcome to the show. Great to have me, Thank you
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absolutely man. How's it going.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I appreciate it, sure so, Ethos. Before we jump into
the music, man, what's been pressing on your heart and
mind recently.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Home? Well, I think it's a really exciting journey to
embark on one that's been pretty nerve wracking to say
the least, and nothing shy of a roller coaster, you know,
it's you know, it's been an honor and something that
I'm really excited to know that I'm just getting started on.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, man, what makes it exciting for you?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I think recently realizing how important the journey.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Side of it is to me has been very rewarding
in my work to know.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Although my inspiration may have stemmed from my goals and
the outcome, I think I've been able to see recently
that the transition is really the beautiful part and to
be a part of that and be able to enjoy
the moment and not realize it too late.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Is is really uh an honor?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, what makes a nerve wreaking?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I mean, it's it's a crazy world out there, you know,
and uh, this industry is known for its chaos and
the noise, the drama that it brings.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I was I was born into it.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
But I've stated before that it's not war that I
ever wanted. And I want to be able to help
those that can't really see through that and want to
do better. So I feel like it's a it's a
big responsibility, but I'm very excited.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Sure, man, what do you mean you were born into it?
You were born into chaos? Or what are you talking about? Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, born into chaos?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
What does that mean or what is or what did
that look? Like for you.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
I think the world that we live in now has
always thrived in it, whether that be with.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Attention that we pay to glamour or.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Just whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, it's currently holding the.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Conversation.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I felt like people can get lost in it, you know,
and that was something that I created since a young age.
You know, I've been able to hold the spotlight wherever
I was, but it wasn't actually saying anything. So to
be able to name things that brings some order into
that and teach people, you know, what they're actually facing.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, so I want to talk about your name, Ethos Spain.
It's a persona you built to be your own role model.
What does it feel like to live inside that identity
compared to when you first created it?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
I think now there's a developing presence, you know, as
controversy sparks throughout my music and what people say about it,
there is like a presence that it carries it. So
so when I assume the persona, there is a.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
There is a switch in my mind, you know, I go.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
From being a person to being almost a canvas on
display of what I'm actually have been trying to say
as myself for a long time and you know, it's
almost like.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
An intoxication of some sort.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Where there's not there's no substance, but it feels like.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
It sometimes, you know, and you need to succumb to
the craziness of it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Awesome, man, it sounds like it's been quite quite a
journey of not only you know, getting your ideas and
thoughts into the world, but you know, becoming this identity,
this persona, and fully embracing the journey that comes with that.
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You describe Vertigo as sematic. What makes a song feel
like that to you?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
I think it paid a deeper.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Picture than a lot of superficial lyrics that are out
these days. You know, people like catchy music and that's great,
but I wanted to find a way to combine that
catchy vibe with something that really is saying something. And
so for me, like I said, being born into chaos,
this song really talks about that and my also personal
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journey to sobriety.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
You know, understanding that you don't.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Need something to.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Feel less than you know, it's okay to be who
you are and not feel pressured about that. And that
goes for my own journey with substance because a lot
of times I felt like not the comfortable in my
own skin.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I would use things to take the edge.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Off, you know, whether that be like alcohol or something
where you you crave.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Disconnection.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
And this is about me finding and actually realizing the
storm as you had mentioned, rather than passing through it.
It's realizing that you were in control of it the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
M for sure, and congratulations man on your sobriety journey.
It's not an easy feat. So yeah, when you hear
the song itself, what scene do you imagine when the
song is played back.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like if I were to paint a picture like what
it represents.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Okay, honestly, this actually ties into my writing process a lot.
I like to look at visual inspiration, so sometimes I'll
paint a picture and write according to that. I don't
listen to beats and like actually try to bet my
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lyrics to it.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I write my lyrics and find a beat that hits
that actually kind of ties into it.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
When I was making the images for this one, to
really feel my inspiration, a lot of it was actually
like my head spinning and not knowing where I was
going to go, but understanding. But I'm still not lost
even if I can't see what's in front of me.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
It doesn't mean I'm lost unless I choose to be.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
And it felt like emotionally walking across the glass. Where
As disturbing and mortifying as it sounds to literally do that,
it almost sounded blissful to know that each step is
different and that the picture it makes, you know, it
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looks beauty itself, the abstract idea of it. If I think,
you know, if I were to kind of go off
of what it made me feel, it was like that,
but in a transformative way rather than paint.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Chad and I mentioned earlier how you pulled from heavy
metal hip hop in two thousands club hits. If I
had to ask man, like, what's currently or what's your
go to everyday listening playlist? What kind of music are
you listening to?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Honestly all of those?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know, when I growing up, I grew up on
a lot of like metal, and when I went into.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
My own.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Endeavor of finding and discovering the music that I wanted
to listen to, I've resonated a lot with like the
early two thousands club hits, late nineties and stuff, and
so really, like just just earlier today, I mean, I'm
listening to you know, te Pain and the forty Kingy
like even even Bringey like I'm guilty. Uh, But I
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mean also when I'm in the gym, then I'm still
listening to God'smack Panther like.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Those are all still big musical influences to me.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
And I mean, I my my palette with it.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Has been nothing shy of diverse for sure, to say
the least.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, man, And we mentioned already that you know, you're
on a journey of sobriety, and in Vertico reflects that journey.
How did music become a part of reclaim and control
from substances?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I think music helped me recon like it helped me
reconnect with myself at a young age.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
When I had a traumatic brain injury at the age
of five. In the hospital, one of.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
The things that they had us do to like help
with eye hand coordination was I just played a lot
of guitar hero you know, And as weird as it sounds,
there was something that they recommended. And so during recovery
as a kid, you know, and being born.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
In the hospital, we did a lot with that. And
so I think it played a.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Big role in my life of finding myself and remembering
that no matter what life throws, I mean like I
will come out on top. And so being able to
channel that later life to the struggles I'd faced, it
was a.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Really good outlet for me to.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Bring order into the chaos that I was facing, you know,
and seeing, Okay, clearly you.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Know, I'm I have some struggles here.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
But when I was able to channel that, it helped me,
I guess released any pressure that I felt on myself
from that situation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Mm hmm, man, that's that's uh. I'm glad you overcame that,
by the way. But playing Guitar Hero a real quick story. Man.
My son was three and I put a controller, a
video game control in his hands so he can play
video games. My wife was like, what are you doing?
And I was like, well, he needs to work on
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hand eye coordination and you know, anticipating the next move
and things of that nature. I said, it's very important.
It's very important. She could, she could, She didn't believe it,
but uh, it's very scientific.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You still do you still gain.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I know I don't. I did as a kid.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It was it was a really big part of really
how I spent my time.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
With my family, you know, and it was after my injury,
you know, that was a really big thing. But later,
as I got focused onto what I wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Kind of it felt distracting more than anything.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
But I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
I don't anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah yeah. And if you look at games now man, nowadays,
it's a big money grab, it's designed to dreams.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah yeah. And I've seen.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Part of what I'd like to preach in my art
is you know, real connection, and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Which is you know, part of the chaos thing.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I love to teach order and chaos, but I also
want to see passion.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That's why I got into music in the first place.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I never I never thought it was a financial shortcut.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I never thought it was a way to get me fame.
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
As amazing as those found, you know, it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
About that for me. I hate that everywhere I go
I can look around and every single person's on their
phone or you know, it's just it's so controlling of
people's lives today that really I don't even like social media.
I use it to get my name out there, but
I really want to get to a point where I
don't have to do that. You know, it'd be amazing
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to show people like there is real human connection, and
that's what I want to teach out my shows.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
You know, I want people.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
To let the loves of the universe come into play
for once and forget about what's going on in societal terms.
You know, it's just just do what you gotta do.
Dance carelessly, show some skin, you know, get crazy, you know,
whatever it is. I want people to feel like natural
and the human rather than a machine that was made
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to work.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You know, yeah, you and I think the same. Man.
I would love to come to a show when the
next time you're playing one.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Hopefully soon, hopefully soon, we'll see all right?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You also mentioned that you thrive and chaos where others collapse,
run and hide like pansies. I mean you didn't say that.
I'm saying that, But when was the first time you
realized chaos could be fuel instead of destruction, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I said, you know the beauty. For me, I always
sat in the transition, not in the outcome.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I'd be lying if I said I always thought that way.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
For a long time, I relied on validation and what
people thought about me, and I cared too much. And
for me, this was my own deciding of I don't
want borrowed knowledge, and when I look around, I feel
like I see a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know, people watch.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
These inspirational quotes on TikTok and Instagram, and it's like
these Alpha Male or whatever, you know, inspirational quotes of
just honestly what I claim to be borrow knowledge.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
You know, people say things because they think it sounds right,
or because it.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Sounds wise, or like they know that they'll.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Get the validation by saying it, and they're like, oh, wow,
you're really self aware and involved in your own development.
But it's like you just saw that on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You didn't.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You didn't find that knowledge because you faced the storm.
You literally took what somebody else said just because they
thought it sounded like it was wise. And for me,
I never wanted to borrow knowledge and pass it along
without knowing where it really came from. And I think
it's really important to sit with whatever it is that
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you were thrown, because.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I mean, cycles matter too.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
You don't get thrown random things to see if you
can't overcome it. They do it to see if you can,
you know, and it only changes when you change and
when you face it. So that was a really big
thing that I had noticed, is you know, nothing changes
if nothing changes.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
When I was pursuing.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Something but then only talking about it and never doing it,
of course it never happened, you know. So that was a.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Big thing for me to see.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
And when I say people collapse, I just mean honestly,
I've been told by a million people, as every other
artist has, you know, that it's not worth it, that
it's not going to work out, that I should get
realistic about what I want to do, and that it's
not you know that my chances are one in a million.
But I failed more than everyone else around me tried,
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you know. So I don't like being called lucky either,
because I did, Like you guys failed twice and stop.
I failed nine times and still kept going, you know,
more than that. But there's a there's a dipping point
where you decide if it is worth it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Indeed, man, I put it this way. I've been podcasting
for eleven years now, twelve in September and someone very
close to me asked me what was the point of
what I was doing. Well, I was like, you know,
at first, you know, it was like you could say that,
you know, first year in, I'm losing money. I'm paying
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more money than i'm made Fast Forward now making money
for my podcast. And I say, well, it's an extension
of creation. It's something I created and I enjoy it
even if I wasn't making money. It's just I created this.
It's not going anywhere. And then I said, what have
you created? No answer, man, no answer. So that's how
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I look at things. You know, creation is an extension
of yourself. We were created, so why not create something
that you love?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And if you're not creating the artistic mindset you know,
that's right, that's right. And if you're not creating anything,
what are you living for? I agree? All right, guys,
let's jump into some Oh go ahead, so I'm sorry,
go ahead now you're.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Really I was just gonna say, I'm really glad to
hear that it worked out for you.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You know, and I want that to resonate with anyone
else that feels stuck. You know, if it's it might
not be your time now, it might not be your
time next week, next month, next year, but your time
will come, like you just have to.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
You just have to stick with.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
It, you know, And you're never You're never poor unless
you think you are. You know, being rich doesn't mean
you have a lot. Being rich means that you don't
need more, that you're that you can.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Be satisfied to what you have. So for everyone that feels.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
That they're not rich, you are, I promise, yeah indeed.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I think that's the point Ethos, is that you
have to keep trying, keep going, keep evolving, keep changing,
and see what you really made of. Yeah, all right, guys,
let's jump into some music. I know we were talking
about Vertigo, but I have a track called Black Balloons
and that's what we're going to play tonight. So when
we come back, we'll come back with more so Spain
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before right now here it is black Balloons.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
Let's just stay tuned, n never say word that was
shocked by it in the heart when it's doctor Supper flying.
It's a tip from Shannon Killer, just a Shannon might.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Embrace sinistration, make up, puppet bail break and bracing your thinking,
saying down.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
From his side.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
Ballasada, talk of Ballasada, lad. It can test us, right though,
I s a master of ruder massacres and master renders.
Got but this is better left us said just upon
itself with exact will authority saying my head as I
wonder Deepen said, and like a civil beauty houses suffet
live your bishop depends, So Bobby host fron the rest
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necessiety in prison, the four second as my longing.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
For it sort of count everything you ever want. It's
a bee.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
That's that's what SOCU saw me.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Your only pass me. I want to go, Oh my.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
God, what my basil attention to my spa, and that
is I should run my last butters buttern my fast stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
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look and a.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
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and J feels I'm taking shoe now because I my
fast like my shadow took a song with a slow straw.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
There was what's a.
Speaker 11 (23:18):
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the wickest part that sort of so a mess and
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breastmas smell, what's less just the fan the flas cast,
the less leg destressing bay. Yes decision, my sauce, not
a must be shocked, this lot must yeah run a smell.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, all right, all right, welcome back again. That was
black Balloons by Ethos fin Oh my goodness, that track
is hard, thumping, bumping, slapping, all of that. All the
cool words the kids are using today. I'm not cool
like that, so I don't know all the cool words.
But it's dope. That's from the school. I am dope, dope, dope.
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All right, let's go ahead and bring them back, Yo,
yo yo, welcome back, Welcome back, your back, Live with us, Ethos.
That's a hard track, man, I appreciate it. Man, Yes, sir,
I can see you performing it, man, with fire cannons
and all kind of crazy stuff happening all at once.
You don't know what to watch. I could go, yes, sir.
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So man, speaking of that, you thrive on bold sounds.
What's one sound that you're still chasing? But I haven't
been able to fully capture it yet.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
To be honest, my sound doesn't really start with inspiration.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I just wait for it to come.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So, I mean, I've chased sounds before and it didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
It just didn't do much for me. You know, when
I was first getting into recording and I.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Was trying to, you know, sound like this or be
like this, I like, it always just went differently than
I would imagine, And I found myself getting disappointed with
some tracks because I just didn't like how it sounded
because I was comparing it.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
And so actually I try not to.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I try not to chase any sound.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I want it to just come naturally, so when it happens,
it happens.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
That's just how I record.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
To in the studios sometimes, like I'll have a verse
ready and I punch it in and then I ended
up doing it completely different how.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I rehearsed it, just.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Because I guess it was supposed to be heard like this.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
So, I mean, really, the only thing I.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Care about I want my emotion to cut through.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I don't like I don't like perfect tracks.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I don't like hearing overly compressed and you know, perfectly
tuned vocals like I want some.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Breath and there I want just need, I need the
flaws to shine through.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
That's what makes it real, That's what makes.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
It human, and that's what actually makes it perfect instead
of it being you know, a machine that did it all,
it's like I did that, you know, and that's that
came from pure creation, not from a machine.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know, absolutely absolutely all right, Ethos, where can our
listeners connect with you online and check out more music.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh, they can go to anything any stream platform. We
got Apple Music, Spodify titled Beezer.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
They can follow me on Instagram, TikTok.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
My users just Ethos fain super simple, no cap space
is nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
All right, And listeners, just in case you need those links,
of course you will need them. I have them in
the description of this episode and in the show notes,
so all you guys have to do is just click
the links. Today Ethos Thing took us through chaos and
back again, showing us how music can be cinematic, bowl
and healing all at once. We touched on some of
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his origins and metal and hip hopist, journey of sobriety,
the creation of Vertigo, and there is a deeper meaning
behind a very young entity Ethos. Your willingness to step
into the storm and teach others to do the same
as very inspiring. So listeners, make sure you screen Vertigo
and Black Balloons, follow Ethos Fame everywhere, and subscribe to
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Vigilantes Radio Live, leave us a rating, and share this episode.
You can also fuel our mission over at buy me
at Coffee dot com, Forward slash Vigilantes Radio and until
next time, find your order in the chaos. Thank you
so much, Ethos, thank you so much. You're welcome, man.
Take care yep, he's to all of the way. My
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name is Dan and I am the host of my
Vigilantes Radio Live.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I think that we are beyond.
Speaker 13 (27:59):
Asking questions and getting cool responses. I think that we
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Speaker 3 (28:05):
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