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August 26, 2024 51 mins
🎙️🌿⚖️ Join us for an exciting episode of Vigilantes Radio Live as we sit down with criminal defense trial attorney, radio personality, and Cannabis pioneer, Lonny Bramzon, aka Lonny the Street Lawyer! From fighting for justice in the courtroom to leading the charge in Cannabis culture, Lonny is a man of many talents. Hear his journey from law school to building the Street Lawyer Services brand, all while inspiring others to embrace a new vision for the future of Cannabis. 🎧🔥 #VRL #LonnyTheStreetLawyer #CannabisCulture #CriminalDefense

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To be cooperating, There's there's always something positive you can do.
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Are you ready you live in the next Let's get

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this started.

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Hey, hey, hey again, welcome to the show. You're listening
to VRL.

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That's Vigilantes Radio Live right here on iHeartRadio and I
am your host.

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Dean.

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Our interviews are designed to go beyond music, news, books,
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are out there giving it. They're all for me, for you,

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and for the world. Well, ladies, gentlemen, and other pronouns.
Today we have a truly larger than life guest on
Vigilantes Radio Live. He's a criminal defense trial attorney, a
cannabis industry pioneer, and a race entertained personality who has

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represented over five thousand defendants with.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
This innovative street lawyer services brand.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Lani is at the forefront of the cannabis movement on
the East Coast. His unique journey from the courtroom to
the cannabis world has made him an icon in both
law and in culture. So please welcome the one and
the only Lonnie.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
The Street Lawyer. Yo yo yo, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Hey, my man, are we on?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, sir, we are on. What's up?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
What's up that real deal? Baby?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, sir, you are you are?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Hey man? Thanks for thanks for the kind of words
about me, and thanks for your uplifting message.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I appreciate that. So, so what's going on? Man? How
do you want to get into this?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Man? We have some crazy questions for you, We have
some real questions for just.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
To get to know you.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
But I did have three questions to come in from listeners.
First of all, they want to know, if reincarnation was real,
which animal would you come back as?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
And why that's easy? White Bengal tiger, you know, yeah,
because they're just so rare in your nick and everybody
wants to see them, you know. And it's just like
when you go to the zoo. You know, at least

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when I was going on, it was all about one thing. Man,
No white Bengal tiger. You know, we ain't giving them
about the ones that looked like a deer, but it's
not a deer from Africa or something, you know, that one,
yeah zoo, you know. And then the one that kind
of looked like big dogs. You know, we wanted to
see the white Bengal tiger. Yeah, and now it's the pandace,

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you know, but before it was the white Bengal tigers. Man.
But again, I had no prep for this question, but anyway,
white playing a tiger man. That's my final answer.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Cool deal, Cool deal. Number two.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
If your life was a Netflix series, what would you
title the first episode and what would it be about?

Speaker 5 (06:26):
The night Crawler? The night Crawler? Yeah, about about everybody's
secret life, because I think everybody has a nightcrawler aspect,
and then we don't call it night or they have

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a separate and it might even be internal and barely
ever gets out.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
I think everybody got a secret life, you know, like
a secret person who they really believe they are. Yeah. Yeah,
and it's a complicated thing, you know, but I think
that What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely a secret life. Growing up, I
used to think I was on camera all the time,
so I was a different character every day really, Yeah,
like the truth like.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
The Truman Show. You know you ever seen that movie?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Oh? Yes, it's a Truman showing like everything's just set up.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's why that's how I should think my
life was, Like there's a camera everywhere, well.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know, and it's like, you know, we have to
think of things in two ways, because yes, we have
to think ourselves. Is special in unique and someone who
can really make a difference, someone who is touched by
God in a way. But we also got to recognize
at the same time that we all get hit by
a garden dya next day. Nobody gives a fucking We're
all buried with nothing, right, So you know, we have

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to reconcile that, not even reconcile that, but we we
have to live, oh, to be you know, to be
the best person we could be, you know, because yes,
you are the center of attention, and there's also everybody
else in the world. There is also the center of attention,
but you're also.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
The center of attention, right yep? So who was money
when no one is around?

Speaker 5 (08:22):
See what made that? Many different bubs, many different lefts.
So you know, I was born and raised in Miami,
oh wow, and yeah yeah, you know, and kind of
wild wildlife out there, nothing crazy crazy, but it was
around me, and I just was very excited about life.

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I went to Stanford for undergrad and I had a
certain mindset about me as a Miami boy in Stanford,
and that identity sort of got in the way of
me growing until I shed that and let me just
be a man in the world. I don't have to
be my any boy. You know, it's important to me

(09:04):
with my thick silver chain and my wife Peter. When
I was eighteen years old, and then you know, I
get the Stanford. I realize that it's much more powerful
learning about people than trying to show people who you are.
And that's how you show them who you are, you know.
And I'm still working on it, right So I want

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to stand. I had a different world at different envitme.
I thought I was gonna beet in the Bay Area,
and you know, I was kind of like feeling that
vibe out there. And it was crazy because I was
at Stanford from ninety seven to two thousand. We're talking
the peak of the dot com era, you know, So

(09:47):
I'm sitting there. I used to just I was enlisted
in college. It was a great college. I learned a
lot out of always about I always wanted to play.
I didn't want to want it to go anyway. I
want to Hey, what do you want to do? This
is that I want to play or do you want
to study this or that? First? I want to play,
and then second, if I had to pick one, I'll
pick that.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
That's just how I am I always wanted to play,
and I still want to play brother, you know, so
so so I would jog pass the graduate housing where
the guys who's his name Surgery were the.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Guys were developing Google because they were on their PhDs,
and I would jog buy. Of course, nobody I didn't
know they were there. Nobody would even think about it
while they were creating Google. And I was running to
the gym to try to give my my biceps bigger,
you know, and you know not did you know? I'm
not in a self deprecating matter, but you know, you

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know more think about that, you know, at that time,
I'm just jogging by. These guys are discovering Google right here.
I think about that. I mean, yeah, yeah, so that happen.
It's different. And a lot of people I knew at
dot com, you know, one hundred millionaires and billionaires. But yeah,
a lot of the guys you know, got them. But me,
I didn't like that ship man. I wanted to deal

(11:05):
with people. I didn't know nothing about computers. Yeah, you know,
so I want to go to law school deal with people. Yeah,
say when law school?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I mean, yeah, you you I'm telling you get the
way pardon me.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh man, we're learning about you.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
You know, it was a very thin line during that
time that I was in that time period as well,
you know, going from being in person like I was
a musician, right, so to meet people, you had to
go to them. You couldn't just oh, email me or
visit my website. You have to go out and see people.

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And right when the dot com era happens, you know,
all of a sudden, everyone's a musician now.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
And I had to learn both worlds. But I prefer
the in person part. You know.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, there's nothing like it, man, Yeah, and uh and
nothing can replace it. And but you brought ustry interesting
point that provokes a lot of my wonder and thought
about people and how they're thriving. Because everybody's a musician now, right,
but everybody's everything now, everybody's everything, Yeah, because everybody has

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had says to it. And I'll tell you another part
of my life is I was a professional statis the dancer,
performed all over the world for many years. That's another Yes,
that was another thing I got into when I'm in
law school in New York. That's the heart and soul
of SuDS that I got absolutely obsessed. I mean I
would skip Columbia law school class, take different classes cructors

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and stuff. Possessed and obsessed, and I did my ten
thousand hours in that, you know, you know the ten
thousand hours they talk about, right, Malcolm Gladwell ten thousand
hour y And but why I bring up the status attorney.
There was a reason for that. I forget, I forget

(12:59):
what we were on. But anyway, that was that was
another life I lived. So when I was in New York. Yeah,
so that's that's what I did at Columbia lost.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I forget what you asked, So, yeah, what kind of
what kind of dance style did you master?

Speaker 5 (13:14):
That was a sa? It's it's called mambo. It's like
the New York style of statasa, which is the old
mambo dancing. Uh cuban pete. Uh. You know we're talking
in New York, you know, thirties forties, the high society
get dressed up in the flyest gear you could imagine,

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puts all of us to shit now and go out
there and rich dance with poor, dance with black, dance
with white. It never ended. Anybody's a mind, okay, and
dance mambo, you know, and and you know that was
Tito Rodriguez and all those and mambo formed into sadasai

(13:58):
dancing in the seventies when all these artists came together.
But mambo was so popular, especially in your all the
big cities. You know, there's just not you know, there's
there's not much documentation of things as there are now, right.
You know, I think about my my childhood. I could
like kind of count the amount of pictures that we're

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taking of my childhood, you know, because there was no
no phone cameras. We had the disposable, right. But so
so mambo dancing and so became very you know, it's
still popular. It's it's it's a beautiful dance. It's a
sophisticated style of music. Uh, and it's a very big

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community builder.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
So I was possessed and obsessed with that for a
while and I got married at least to the other life.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Do you still uh do you still dance?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yeah? Whenever I get a chance, absolutely, I goheat and dance.
And you know, whenever, like you know, and is if
I'm dating a woman and we're passing a large amount
of time together, and then too, you know, because that
music's always gone It's always like the music and all
my jops everywhere I go, can I can I have access?

(15:15):
Yeah right? Yeah yeah so yeah, like you know, if
you if we were ever hanging out in the car,
me and you like taking their drive, you choose the music,
You're gonna hear some old school class.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Your brother nice. I love it. Yeah, so Miami, what
do you like? I like?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Man, I like different types of music. The only music
I don't like is bluegrass folk, and that's pretty much it.
Everything else I can get jiggy with if it has
a nice rhythm.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, you don't like the rustic stuff? I got it?
Yeah all right, let me get back.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, man, So Miami growing up? You grew up in Miami.
You seem like a Miami time. You see large in Miami,
but you have your base of operations in.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Upper East and yeah, yeah correct, I'm in d C.
And you know, I grew up in Miami, went to
a large public school, middle class. Mom was a teacher
and dad was donning out of work. But I was
growing up that was perfectly by man. A house to
bar and everything was good. Now I'm only making a

(16:27):
million dollars a year. Where's your apartment? You know, and
it seemed it seemed that way to me. I haven't
looked at the exact number. I believe the numbers bear
it as well, but that's a whole different conversation. But
it was very we were very, very socially competitive and
very you know, my public school has large, like forty

(16:48):
five hundred students, every kind of persons, all kinds of stuff,
all kinds of adventures, good and bad. But it was
a very Iopic provincial culture and it still is, although
it's broadened now. But we thought I thought the center
of the WAWE was Miami. I don't know why it

(17:12):
breeds that. And all of my friends went to the
gym in high school. It was a very gym culture,
not for health, but just to be a macho, tough
guy and look good for the girl. Got you know,
I don't think I don't think anybody mentioned health throughout
all those times. Catty here, no, but uh but it

(17:33):
seems a nice place to grow up, a great community
there to grow up at now, but very myopic provincial
culture that's brought in. And yeah, so I think that's
why you said larger than Miami, right, yep.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I've seen you around, and I think you're larger
than Miami. I don't think God appreciate that Miami could
contain you. I only think the c could contain you.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, man, I am a free bird. Man, I am
a free spirit, and not because I try to be,
but because I can't help but be, you know, And
I don't know. You know, I was considering talking to
a therapist about that. What's going on with me? What's

(18:22):
going on with me? But I'm a little concerned about
a therapist because you know, I don't know if they
can lead it down the wrong path with great intentions.
Mm yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Why not Hollywood?

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Is there such thing as Hollywood? Or is it all
computers now? But yeah, there is such thing as Hollywood. Still, Yeah, man,
I would love to you know, I love to be
the talent. I don't need to walking everybody look at
me and talk to me and comblem. I Man, I
have that kind of do a little older now, you know,
and you know the way. So I didn't want the

(19:05):
white Bengal tiger analogy to be the league. But I
love to be the talent. I love to be on
stage talking to people, having people captivated, informing people, or
just kind of affecting them, I get high off that,
you know, and uh she symbiotic relationship. And that's why

(19:26):
I love jury trial. Jury trial, that's a whole different animal. Man.
When you're a lawyer and you have a jury trial,
it's just teld people the last couple of weeks. You know,
you start like becoming like spiritual friends with these people. Yeah,
time for lunch, you know, back and forth and you
connect with them and you know, and you connect with

(19:46):
your connect with everybody. If you want some results as
a criminal defense attorney, because you got the facts are
not on your side.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Man, uh, I can imagine that you defended some wow cases.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
What's the most what the fuck moment that you've had
so far in the court run.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah. So, you know, criminal defense lawyers guilty people. That's
what they do. They don't defend innocence. Are there a
few innocents mixed up? Of course, But if criminal defense
lawyers didn't defend guilty people, there would be no you know,
that's why they're there when people been in trouble, you know.

(20:28):
So you know, I've defend you know a lot of
MS thirteen gang guys, high level guys because yeah, MS
thirteen has a large presence because it's a big Salvadoran
Central American community. So in fact, outside of Los Angeles,
DC has the largest MS thirteen presidence. So you know,

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they are ganging the Latino communities in DC, and they
operate very strictly and very violently, and that they call
the ruckus within their own community. They're not out robbing
people is done going walking down the street, you know,
but if you rob their brothel, they'll kill you. Sun deal,
you know. So so I represented a couple of those

(21:15):
guys on one one murder of gang leader. Yet this
this kid, my tide was sixteen and a gang leader
comes to DC who like the skeet Salvador in prison.
Imagine this we're talking, you know, the video of the
guy in the tattoos on their face. We're talking like

(21:35):
no hardcore game members. You imagine right at potential tasting,
you know you couldn't. So this guy escapes, ends up
in New York for a year's a couple of years,
and everything cools down. But there was a green light
on them. That's what the gang leaders Salvador, there's a
green light or any any prison, your green light means

(21:55):
that you got killed guys. You see, So green lights
are complicatings because then you're in a situation you got
nothing to do with the thing. There's a green light,
so you got to kill the guy or else there'll
be a green light on you all of a sudden. Yeah,
watch out for that, you know. So a guy one
of their guys in the clay in Columbia Heights, Maryland.

(22:17):
My client was like sixteen years old. Four other people
involved and well, five other people. One got the message,
the oldest guy at nineteen years old, right, get the message. Oh,
this guy in town is gonna come. He's dead. And
the guy who sent him measure doing like two hundred
and eighty years in Virginia. And yeah, this guy was

(22:37):
like the guy who sent the message was forget out
in a movie. Forget at a movie gang leader. All right,
I'm talking. How does he walk in the streets like yeah,
this kind of thing. And so yeah, he was walking
back from I forget. They lured him into a bit
of an outing and then they went to a friend's
house and walking him back and one yokes him up

(22:59):
and the other got butterfly like death torm up. And
my client was part of that group. So think about
think about this guy was in Salado in prison. My
client sixteen years old killed the guy. So that that
ship was why oh yeah wild. But but the longest

(23:21):
kids had our child porn case, that ship to change that,
that's too that that's a different kind. Look, the real
piminal defestteries are defending fun mancioso cases all the time.
They're knowing that ship. You know, that's that's the gangster ship,
career professor, not the murderer. Rob, I got another child
porn ship.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Oo.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
So I had a big child porn jury traw and
uh at the end of the jury traw and the
conclusion they had it, they brought it like one hundred
inch screen. You've never seen a screen this big. I
didn't know screened this big existence world. They rolling into
the courtroom all right on the closing day in their

(24:04):
closing and just publisher right there on the screen for
all the journeysy images of baby porn.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yes, yes, I kid you not their client. So you
know I've been through that ship too. That's got a while. Yeah, man,
Well you know what, there's something to me when when
a guy looks sipp mean and we have this connection.
He knows it's a very very bad situation, knows these fucks,

(24:37):
And I'm just like, Bro, I'm on your team. Man, bro,
all these people want you want bad thing to happen me,
not me, broke, not me. I got you. And something
so special about fighting for somebody. Are they good or bad?
You know, you know, your job not to judge them,

(24:58):
of course, but there's something so special about finding it's
just a really bad, fucked up situation. Whether they deserved
it or not, that's not my question. This man, You're
a fucked up situation, and my job is to join
this fucked up team, you know, this drowning as a
boat and get on that ship, you know, uh, not

(25:20):
get on that shit in the way that I got
to do the time. You know, I appreciate that, but
it's just get you know, you're always underdog, always underdog,
you know. And it's got me like, whenever I see
a mom on anything, I'm like, all, I'm going to
get that mom. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So yeah, yeah, So I could imagine that. You know,
the people that you're defending, they're probably alone in this situation,
and you're offering them a partnership.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, did you always did you always practice this way?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
I have a very I had like the best screaming
program you can have because I started as an intern
with Samuel Delgado, who had over two hundred murder trials
from DC OH, DC Public the DC Public Defender's Office.
It's like the best defense attorneys you'll find anywhere in
the world. And so you know, it's a very prestigious.

(26:19):
It's some of the best trial attorneys come from there.
And he was just a star in the eighties and
then like seven hundred murders a year. And he went
to ended up in Montgomery County and I went, there's
an intern and we just locked in and I mean,
you know, he was my mentor to walk around in
for six months, learning the ropes and going the jury
trials with him and just watch him the amazing. So

(26:40):
that then I got a job at the Public Defender's
Office in Sorry, my dog is breathing and chasing. I
got a dog a job in the Public Defenders off
in Baltimore, c SO, which was, you know, murder capital
of the United States. When I was there a while
filming the wire. You know, very real deal, and uh
and just awesome. So so I learned with someone Delta,

(27:05):
and then I learned as a public defender in Baltimore City,
where I would have forty bear reviews to day, no problems,
and every day we all did. And you know, we
were in the jail. I was in the pod with
every single day, no guard. They opened up the pod door.
I walked in sixty to them. You know, inmates, no

(27:26):
handcuffs anywhere, no, you know, the guards outside and uh
and that's how we did it. So it was very
they don't do it like that anymore. So I represent
so many people in Baltimore City. There were so many
people arrested, you know, and they got like seventy five
percent of inmates in Maryland or are from Baltimore eighty percent.
And you know, a lot of very difficult situations in Baltimore.

(27:52):
You know, the drug addiction is something I've never seen before.
You know, there's great people too, It's a great city.
And so I learned there and then I had my
and then opened up a private practice. After I did
that for a few years, learn the ropes and really
serving the Latino community to speak Spanish. You know, my

(28:12):
dad's from Mexico, and yeah, so that's what I did.
And I was sort of like, you know, the high
profile mafia Latino attorney, you know, in DC for a while.
So you're that DA that year. There's in real trouble,
that's what you call me. There's a couple other guys too, bigger,
better too, of course, But and so I was.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I was.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Contacted by iHeartRadio. Now I Heart raised the radio said
in DC one on one, which is an iHeart affiliate.
And I was on the radio from twenty fourteen to
twenty nineteen is long as the Street Lawyer. And I
would say, any so I was on DC one on
one where we're still looking at radio. I did that
once a week for five years. So it was like

(28:54):
a thing. Yeah, they let me bro. Nobody gave a
fuck what I said. I didn't remember what I said
on that, but people were listening and it became like
a thing, you know. So so basically, when when I
had this opportunity to open week business in the Great
Gray Area market, I parlayed the brand launing the Street

(29:15):
Lawyer and made Street Lawyer services.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So what we did, Yeah, so when did you venture
into cannabis?

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Twenty nineteen. Remember as my days in the criminal defense community,
I met a lot of people, you know, and all
kinds of people and and you know, d Ciba is
a small town. It's a small town. Where I was
in the city of DC, I wasn't involved in the

(29:49):
lobbying in the politics. So that you know, you got
to get involved because you move up, you know, you
gotta get involved a little bit of that at some point,
which is kind of annoying. But you know, I was
involved with city. You feel me not that far the
city city and people live in the city and you
know d c which is cool city. And so I'm
a guy and he said you want to do this,

(30:09):
and I said yes. So we opened up a shop.
And DC had a law where it was legal to gift,
legal to gift that did in the statue. So we
took it hard. And what we did is we didn't
sell weed. We sold legal coupons.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
We gifted the weed and we was all a gift.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
So we.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
And we we really advertised and opened and we just
we made a lot. I mean, we created a lot,
a lot of creative outlets in cannabis. You know, we
had music artist who are part of our team and
it was a really cool hit. Brand still is as
it was. To make it fun. Community everybody who welcome,

(30:53):
you know, we love everybody, and it was very cool
and and DC loved it. We went hard and people
love the whole legal coupon. But don't get me wrong.
I wasn't on the hook with the legal goop. Mom
play now that work, you know what I mean? Be
on the hook legal services, you know what I mean.
So here's how we worked it out. You get three

(31:15):
legal coupons and that'll be three hundred dollars. Now, the
legal coupon only goes into effect if you and the
lawyer agree on a case of representation in price and
then you get to discount. So fifteen hundred for duy
or you got two hundred dollars, I'll charge three thirteen.
You know, that was that was the model. So of

(31:36):
course I could be on the hook for consimpations for
a hour, let ruining. It'd be horrible, you know, may
tell me about suspend the license for an hour, get
out of here. So yeah, So so that's how we
worked it, and and you know, it really got big.
You know, went to La Travel with it and love

(31:58):
the brand. And it was just some vibes going on, man,
and a lot of lot of people reaching out to
me are very interesting in what I was doing and
what was going on, and and it was it was
a pioneering time, especially in d C. With a branding too.
I really went hard on the branding and that was
very new.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
In DC, right for sure. Man. So I heard on
your podcast that you were talking about the meaning of life?
Did you ever settle on that? Per the meaning of life?

Speaker 5 (32:34):
I think it's to have a good time. Now. To
have a good time doesn't mean going to party with
your friends, because if you've got responsibilities you're not taking
care of and your party with your friend, you're not
really having a good time. You got that ship on
your mind to have a good life and not worry

(32:55):
about things. Just think about it, man, we're only on
put on this. You know how many fucking right we are.
Nobody else obviously in a misery of life, and anything
could fucking happened. And you know what is the meaning?
Even you know? You know I think about this, So
I'm a philosopher. Even to me, why don't you create

(33:15):
a legacy? Okay, well, let's take a couple of steps back.
Your legacy is nothing. I don't care. You know, you
may have one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people
of years in royalty. It's some one hundred years that
won't matter anyway. So to just vote your life to legacy,
it's not wise, in my opinion, It's not wise to

(33:36):
vote your life. You are lucky, is hell to be
on earth. You're just a living organism, a ride. Baby,
We're all in. We're all in, all in. Have a
good time, man, have a good time, bro. That's what matters,
because that's what matters because and you know why that
matters so much, because that life don't really matter that

(33:58):
much in the large picture. And that should not be
a depression thought. It needs to be a liberating thought. Yeah,
you know, don't take your legacy. I'm not I'm not
talking to you personally, you know, just sort of don't
take your legacy. God damn seriously. And I have a
good time on you on Earth. I'm not saying the
like responsibilities, you know, it's a whole balance thing, but

(34:21):
but I needed to say that. You know what impact
I have on it? What the fuck is that we
enjoy your life? You know, enjoy your life.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm with that for real. Oh yeah, I'm
with that for real. Man, cannabis is something else.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Has it ever helped you discover any wow, personal troops
or or deep revelations.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Very interesting because it's a weird lifestyle. I was a
lawyer fifteen years, you know, put on a suit every
day the office, went to the court room. Yeah, I
did my shortcuts and played my little fun games in
whatever fucking crazy way I do. Right, that's probably not normal.
And yeah, it took short cuts, and I figured out

(35:04):
how to get a lot done with little work, which
is my forte. I mean, I got through Stanford, I
can to tell you. I barely opened the book. I
barely opened the book, you know. And uh, I figured
out way, you know, if there was less than seven
tennis players in the class, when the first take is
the first day, you get off out, I'm out. I'm out.

(35:25):
I wanted the tennis players there because they need to pass,
you know what I mean, because because they had a
great tennis fee. But anyway, the question at hand, Yeah, okay,
question at hand. What is the question in hand? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Have you discovered any personal truths or deep revelations from
you know, cannabis.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
When it's done. It's created a lot of time for
me and has sort of changed up my life schedule wise.
Because I create these bins. I work hard at times,
and my labor is not necessarily needed because the way
it's set up, I'm really you know, I set it
up so I don't really need to be on the
day to day, you understand. So I've had to deal

(36:17):
with myself a lot and figure out what I want
to do and who I want to be. And it's
gave me time to philosophize. But you learn very different skills.
You learn that being a lawyer does not make you
a real business man, you know, And you learn a
lot of sharks in the water, you know. You learn that,

(36:38):
And you know, business teaches you hard lessons like you
ain't doing something right. The revenues will showing you money
real quick. You know, you're real quick. You know. Businesses
are very direct thing like you know, so it teaches
you quick lessons. And I'll tell you what this is
an interesting about business. You could have a restaurant making

(36:59):
millions of dollars because it's got great food and great marketing.
You put that same restaurant, same exact restaurant with bad management,
it goes under in four months. Mm hmmm, it goes
under and four months of bad management. Yeah wow.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
So I get a lot of questions about risk taking,
especially from self made entrepreneurs like yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Some people just afraid to jump when they are surrounded
by so many circumstances and responsibilities and things like that.
What would be your advice to them about taking the
risk that could change your life.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I don't think people are honest and analytical stuff about
what the risk is. And the perfect example is me
when I when I opened up the you know, the
weed players, everybody said, get in trouble. Now that that
about a thousand other people were geting go I got out.

(38:00):
I'm getting in trouble. I said, okay, what trouble? You
get arrested for what distribution? What happens? They come and
arrest you, and then what other Then they take you
to jail? Okay, and then the next day I brought
in from bail or what? And then what? Then I
get released?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Right?

Speaker 5 (38:17):
There is nobody So that's okay, that's Joe and I
I want that, of course, But let's let's take a
couple more steps, let's see it through. Then what happens.
Then we know that the US attorney was throwing out
all those cases, so I said, okay, so they're gonna
throw out my case anyway. Now the risk is did
I go to jail for a night and then they

(38:40):
threw out my case? Is that the trouble? Is that
the trouble you're talking about, because I can deal with
that kind of trouble.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
I can deal with that if I had. So that's
the couple. Let's be honest about the risk, because that's
the risk, and it's still unlikely, but that would be
the risk. So you have to see it through. And
if it's not, Like if someone imagines themselves in an
orange jumpsuit with their shackled ankles and risks for ten years,
then they're not being realistic about the risk, which is

(39:11):
changing the course of their life. So you know, risk
is something you have to analyze, probably more closer than
anything in your life because it will make a change course.
And you know, it makes me a change course too quickly.
Sometimes some people dance on the other side of the edge, right,

(39:32):
And but it's something that really needs to be taken
apart because that was my worst case scenario at the time.
And to start a new business and grow something great
and do something and that in jail that's nothing. I mean,
you know, do I want to spend a night obviously
not like you're comfortable bed and ILL have to and

(39:53):
I mean guys everywhere, no, But but that was that
was the reactionality of the risk, and that was a
risk I was going to take.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
That makes sense, makes sense, Yes, all right, what are
you working on now, Broddie.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Man. We got We're working on building dispensaries in Baltimore County,
which is great, great business, and working on opening a
delivery service in Baltimore. And and of course I'm trying
to blow up the podcast as well. I'm doing my
own podcast and which has become just a really good

(40:34):
time to sit at you know, as we're doing now,
you know, to sit down and just talk with somebody.
It lets down and talk with somebody for half an
hour longer. If you're not, if you're right, if we're
not doing this, there's all the way to do it.
You're not gonna where am I'm going to meet a
guy for coffee? Because sits down for happening. I would
love to, but that ain't happening, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
If I if I call an artist who I never
met before. You know, I had a cool artisan, young
inky growing up in Baltimore, real interesting, street guy, real cool.
We got him on for the podcast. Yeah, I love it.
If I just called him, Hey, you want me for coffee? Fuck?
Do you talk about that? I don't even know you. You
know what I mean? You'd be like, Yo, you're weird, bro,

(41:18):
don't call me again. Yeah? So yeah, man, And look, man,
now I got three kids. I'm in it. Yeah, you
have three kids, a divorce, and you know, so that
was after the divorce. Uh, and that was before I
started Streetler and street up New life. I lived many

(41:41):
and now I'm to a point where I'm like, what
is going on here? My kids are growing up? You know,
I'm still strong and healthy and handsome as hell, but
I'm forty five, you know, and uh, you got a girlfriends,
but you know, I don't know what's up. You know,
they're changing the laws. I don't know where life is

(42:02):
going to leave me next. Man. So I'm I'm always
It's always like that. With me for some reason. It's
time my life set up. You know, it's never been stable. Stable.
You know, stable is not my favorite. Stable not my thing.
You want to stable, don't come to me. Yeah. So yeah,
so life is exciting. I hope good things around the

(42:24):
corner and and and hopefully you have something to do
with a podcast. But the talent thing, you know that
that would be great. That would be great because it's
telling means thing. It's cool, but you know, you gotta
buy and the talent is a product. You know, it's
you know a lot of think about it.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
What I mean?

Speaker 5 (42:42):
You tell you gotta buy more? You know, you gotta
keep doing that. A lot of product, a lot of inventory.
You know, there's a real business, us business. You know.
I like the locks of ficing and talking like we're
doing now. If I gonna make that my business, that
would be ideal.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yes, sir, m hm, So man, I follow the podcast
on Apple. I love your show so far. Man.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Sometimes I think you're you know, sometimes I think you
outshine the guests just because of your person.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I don't want to do that, but thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
But that's you, you know, that's you.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
And I think people coming on your show should know
that that you know, you're you're larger than life type
of guy, and you know it's easy to be the
passive type.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Like I'm laid back, I'm passive.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm not as you know, courageous with h with who
I am in public versus you. You know, so you
know you would you would easily outshine me on your show.
It's what I'm saying that. And I think people who
come on your show should do their homework.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
You give me that passive if you were where you are,
But personality why.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
You know, and I know you don't try to It's
just who you are, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I am so listening what I've been real grateful for
five years with this weird business. Every new person that
walks in my door, I am to day man like
they want happy and grateful And in every podcast, guess
I'm grateful. You know, I am grateful for that. I mean,

(44:34):
I got all kind of personality because I don't get
me wrong, but you know that gratefulness and and I'm
very optimistic. I just always think that's a big, great
thing coming to me, whether it is or not. And
I can't even talk myself out of that, Like that's
in the back of my mind, and that gets me
through luckily. I mean, I you know that that wasn't learned,

(44:56):
that was juice. That's a bad and bad things it means,
but that shit keeps me going. I don't know, and
I think there's great things out there for in front
of you, for everybody, but you know, you gotta think
it right back, and you gotta take a risk.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, you have to take the risks. Yeah baby.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
All right, Lennie, before we let you go, where can
our listeners connect with your online and where can they
check out your show?

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah? Man, So my Instagram page is a great way
to reach out to me long in the Street Lawyer.
There's also a Street Layer podcast Instagram page and that's
the best way to reach out to me. And also
just subscribe on the YouTube page Street Lawyer Podcast. It's
called Street Lawyer Podcast and Apple, Spotify, whatever you know.

(45:46):
You can do a programmings on all of them. So, yeah,
and reach out to me whatever. If you want to
want to be on the show, you want to talk
to me, but you want to talk about philosophy, all right,
you're getting a couple of hours, like many hours you
could also be in Yeah, all.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Right, all right, and listeners, just in case you don't
have the links, no worries. I will have them in
the description of this episode and in the show notes,
So all you guys have to do is just click
the links. I want to thank you so much again,
Lonnie for being our special guest tonight. It was truly
an honor just getting to know you and just you know,
asking these questions.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
I'm so flattered, brother, Thank you very including me.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, take care and have a wonderful night.
All right, thank you, bye?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Hey, what's up? Long time? I forgot to mention that.

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