August 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Meet Sara Lynne George 📚💔✨—four-time bestselling author, poet, and trauma recovery educator whose words have helped survivors across the globe reclaim their voice. Her latest release, To Be Loved, What a Tragedy 🎭✍️, is a poetic memoir that lays bare the truth about toxic love and the resilience it takes to rise from it. With earlier hits like Don’t You Dare Text Him Back 🚫📱 and I’ve Never Been to France, Sara blends fearless storytelling with deep healing work. In this episode, we talk survival, self-worth, and the art of writing your truth—even when it hurts. 🎧🔥
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been broken, and for every spirit fighting to reclaim its worth.
Her work is raw, it's real, and it's restorative, proof
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Our interviews are designed to go behind the scenes into
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who are out there giving it. They're all for me,
for you, and for the world. Well, ladies and gentlemen.
She's a four time best selling author, a fearless poet,
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and a trauma recovery educator who has made it her
mission to help survivors find their way back to themselves
from Don't You Dare? Text them back to her latest
poet memoir memoir To Be Loved? What a Tragedy. Her
writing is wrong, unapologetic, and deeply human. Her workshops have
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given countless people the courage to own their truth and
heal on their own terms. So please join me in
saying welcome friend to Sarah Lynn George.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Thank you, hell, thank you so much for having me here.
I appreciate you having me on today.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Absolutely, how are you? This evening great?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So I thank you for that introduction that was kind
of you. I'm just the survivor myself, so to be
able to get back and help others, there's definitely something
that I value and I went through a lot of
stuff to get there, so it's it's I guess it's
it's definitely going to be a journey for everyone else,
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and I'm just hoping that I can accompany everyone on
their journey as well, so they won't have to go
through and as hard as I had to go through it,
but I'm hoping for.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I love you know when people go
through things and they make it to the other side
and they realize that hey, you know, sometimes people don't
know how to navigate through their journeys or their experiences
and having you come back and you know, open the
door or open their minds to a possibility that they
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can you know, clian their life back clean, their power
back is It's just powerful.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, it's It's definitely a gift for
me to be able to do that. I feel so
fortunate to be able to help others and it's definitely
my life goal is just to make life a little
easier for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Indeed, so, Sarah, you've been pouring your truth into your
writing and helping others reclaim theirs. What's been on your
heart and mind lately as you think about the next
chapter of your work and your own healing?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I would say that I realized something like writing my
last my last book, which was no matter what, no
matter what we go through, no matter how much we
think that we learn, we're not fully healed. You know,
we can always slip back into those patterns and definitely
give in to those toxic behaviors. And I realized, you know,
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writing my last book, To be Loved with a Tragedy,
it took me four years to write, but it showed
me that I wasn't healed and I and I thought
that was interesting because you know, here I had been
doing the FRAMA workshops, but I'm not, you know, I
realized I'm a human being too, I'm not you know,
I actually have this feeling to do. So it kind
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of took me through my trauma again. Which I always support.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
People going through the trauma.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
It's very important that we kind of face it and
just I've head on with it. But yeah, I realized
that I wasn't fully fully healed, and writing that book,
it really just it healed me. So the next I
have three more books in that series. So what a
tragedy series. And I'm just I'm really excited to see
what I'm gonna learn about myself and see, you.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Know, how.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
How I couldn't get to know myself even better, you know,
And that's really what we wanted to get to know
ourselves so we can be the better version of ourselves
for others. And it's it's been a journey, and that's
really what I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, that's incredible. You've lived so much life before becoming
an author. When did you first realize you had a
story worth telling.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think when I I would talk to.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
My close friends about.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Certain situations and they would just gasp. I think that
was my first hint where they're like, oh my gosh,
you know, wow, we.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Don't hear that every day.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I really just didn't know that I had anything, you know,
interesting to say. I just thought everyone went through what
I went through as a child, and you know, I've
been going through trauma for so long, like a lot
of us have, and it's it's just I feel that once,
you know, I talk to my friends and they're like, wow,
you know your story. I related it back to this,
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you know, with my relationship or yeah, my family.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
It was also like that, I wonder how I can
solve this, you know, or how did you hear from that?
And I was giving them advice and I realized that
they were taking it and we were kind of being
there for each other, Me and my friends, and it
was just and family members as well.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I realized that that's really what it's about It's.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
About not comparing your trauma to anybody, because no one's
no trauma is the same. But really just being there
to help others like get through it and telling your
story is a good way to get through it.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
There's nothing wrong with talking about your story.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
There's nothing wrong with thriving through your trauma.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And I like to kind of think of trauma as.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
A positive thing instead of a negative thing, because once
we start thinking negative, we're just gonna start getting down
on ourselves and that's where blame comes in, and we
don't want any of that. So I try to just
be I'm happy that I went through my trauma and
be proud of it, and I just hope that you know,
everybody else can be too when.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And that's a brave thing to do. How did that
first attempt at telling your true feel?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
It was scary? It was definitely scary. When I wrote
I've never been France. I thought for sure.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was going to lose a lot of people that
were close to me because it was a truth that,
you know, we don't always talk about our past, and
you know that's kind of our My skeletons in my
closet were revealed in I've Never Been to France.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Everything was laid out and I had nothing to hide.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I had kind of just can't come to terms with
the decisions that I've made in the past, and I
forgave myself and I forgave others, and I just wanted
to go.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Through everything I went through and come out better than
I was before.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And so me telling my truth was kind of me
just admitting it and being like, you know what, I'm
going to take accountability for the things that I've done,
for the things that I had to go through, and
I want people to.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
See that we can thrive regardless.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And so it was definitely a scary thing to publish
that book, but my family received it really well, and
it was really received.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I mean, the reviews were great.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Everyone was just, you know, thanking me for how much
I helped them. And once I all that, I was like, Yeah,
that's exactly what I wanted to do. That's that was
my goal right there, and.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
One person is to help one person? Was that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, So I'm interested in the title I've Never been
to France? What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
So basically it is.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
The protagonist, Lauren, is a feral definitely a feral woman.
She is not to be tamed, and she wants to
just live her life and experience everything from childhood, just
traumatic childhood and went through you know, a lot of
emotional abuse, a lot of sexual abuse.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
And and it was just she just didn't want to
be tied down. She didn't trust anybody. So that's my protagonist.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
And so I've never been to France. It is her,
you know, just basically stating I've never been to France.
But that doesn't mean I won't go to France.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
That doesn't mean I can't go to France. It's just
stating somewhere she's never been because she's going to go there.
So it's more of like a.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Goal, and it's more of just saying I may not
have ever been to France, but I will go to France, like,
you know, just a goal and a destination in mind,
and kind of it's it's more of a metaphor, you know,
never limiting yourself to anything, and anything's possible. We can
make anything that we have set our mind to, we
can make come true. And our goal of our amp,
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you know, we can accomplish all our goals. We can
do anything we set our minds to and I guess
that's really what it's about.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, that's incredible. So you've been CEO of a marketing
firm and now a voice for survivors. How did these
two worlds shape your storyteller?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I would say that's an interesting question.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I would say that it working as a as a
CEO for a company was and working in a corporate
office is definitely different than writing and helping others, But
it was that's really what made me want to go
into a different field.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Was I was sick of the and I'm still mind you.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I still do you run the company, so I can't
say too much negative about it, but I but I,
you know, just going in every day and just seeing
how the motions and going through the motions.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And I'm a very free spirit.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I don't it's just in my nature.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I'm free.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I like to be free and I like to enjoy life.
And being in the corporate office, you can't really enjoy
life that much. And there's not really many people you
can help unless you're teaching.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Them you know how to expenditures or you know how
to do pay roles. There wasn't much that I was
really teaching.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I didn't feel like I was making a difference, and
I was bored. And so I had actually went through
a very traumatic event.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
And as you in my book, you'll if you know.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Anyone reads that in my book, it'll explain, you know,
how I went through a lot of trauma during the
times I obtained my position, and it ended up being
where I lost my house. I was living on the
streets and it was like I was I was sick.
And I decided, you know, from that being on, just
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to make decisions in order to get back on my feet.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And I did it.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And after that, I realized that I was no longer
going to be a victim to the forty fifty hour
work week. I'm gonna definitely do what I love to do.
And that's really what changed me. Was like, I'm not
going to come here every day, which I still go there.
I still go to the office almost every day, but.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
But still at least I have books to fall back
home when I get home.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, Yeah, wow, so you've you've journeyed through a
lot of phases of life, you know. Yeah, I want
to say that. I mean, you've probably seen it all
our experience.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm so there's a.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Little bit more.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I have to see.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I'm not done yet.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I haven't been to France, I haven't been to friends.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, so that's hopefully I'll get to go there soon.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's not over. I like that. I like that. Yeah,
So what did you learn about yourself in these low points?
Because on the outside looking in, you didn't stay low
for you know, I don't know how long it lasted,
but you didn't stay there. You didn't accept that as
your fate as well. Okay, this is where I'm at now,
so this is where I stay. You know, what was
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that like for you?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It was you know, I've never really been the type
to just say just give up, and you know, Steell defeated.
I just knew I had children that I have to
support and I had to step up and through it all.
You know, I was still in a really abusive, toxic relationship,
and so that was really what was making me.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I was real depressed.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I was just feeling really insecure. And you know, you
doubt yourself a lot if other people if you're around
someone that doubts you all the time, and it's making
you feel bad.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
And I'm sure I didn't make them feel too good either.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know it was mutually toxic, and that was really
what was my motivation. I was like, this is not
how it's going to end. I'm not going to be
I'm not going to live my life like this.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You know. I meant for more.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I've always and so is everybody. You know, we're all
capable of accomplishing things.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
But yeah, it was. It was a very dark time
in my life. But I'm proud of it.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
And instead of being ashamed, instead of feeling like I
couldn't talk about it, I said, no, I'm not going
to be a victim to this. I'm going to be
a survivor and I'm going to talk about it. Getting
honest with things was really like the first step to
my road of recovery, I think, and that's really what
helped me, is just staying honest and no matter how
bad it is, no matter how horrible it may sound,
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it's going to.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Sound better when you're saying it honestly than.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
If you're telling a liar, if you're sugarcoating things, because
you can't help anybody, if you're just you know, sugarcoating
your ways your life.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I know in those cases, sometimes you have to
hold the mirror up and look at yourself, pick yourself apart.
I know that can be toxic sometimes because you know,
we are our own worst critic, our own worst enemy,
and sometimes we could be our own best coach. What
is the safest way in your experience for others who
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have to hold this mirror up and look at themselves
and tell themselves the truth?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I would say, be kind to yourself, because, like you said,
we are our worst critic.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And when I used to look at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, I pick it apart, and I try not
to do that anymore. I try not to look at
what's on the outside, but how I'm feeling inside.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So no matter what, as long as you're.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Feeling okay inside when you look in the mirror, you're
going to feel okay on the outside.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
And that's really what it, you know, that's what matters.
I want to.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Definitely say that there are there is definitely beauty within
all of us, and and we can we can change.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
But I would say, look in the mirror and say.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Good things about yourself, positive reinforcement. No one's all bad,
you know, and sometimes we just got to forgive ourselves
enough to be able to look in the mirror again,
I guess, And.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
That's really where I think.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It's important to look at yourself and be kind, give
yourself some grace, and give yourself some flat.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Life's hard.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, to be loved? What a tragedy? Uh, that's your
latest work? Correct? Yeah? Yeah? Who's the tragedy?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
For the tragedy? For the I mean really, any that
thinks that being told you're nothing, or being emotionally abused
or physically abused or manipulated, anybody that thinks that's love,
that's the tragedy.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
But you know, some people grow up in that, in
those toxic environments and don't even realize it's toxic' Oh
that's normal. Yeah, And then you hear the stories like,
oh that is not normal.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You know, Yeah that's true. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And hopefully you know, you don't have to go through
life like that.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Unless you're comfortable.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And if you're comfortable in it, just don't bring me
down with it. Don't include me on your journey.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
How did you prepare yourself emotionally to write this?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You know I didn't. I wouldn't say I did. I
would say that I'm a pretty emotional person. I cry
at everything, you know, Huggies, a Honda commercial, wall cry, and.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I'm pretty emotional.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
So I wear my heart on my sleeve. So anytime
when I was feeling like just this, either the romantic
side of me, or the loving side, or the angry side,
or just the side that was still hurt from past
you know, trauma, I would I would just sit down
and I'd write about it, and I'd be honest and
just I'd put myself back in that moment and I'd
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be like, you know what, I how did I feel,
you know, and why did I feel that way? And
that allowed me to kind of write it and just
be honest about it, because there's when you're in a
toxic relationship, it really just takes everything out of you.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
It's like you don't you're not the same person.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
And there's been studies that have proven that, you know,
narcissistic relationships, which it's a little more severe, but I
mean narcissistic relationships that they cause brain damage.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
And so I mean that's a that's a pretty large
that's a pretty.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Bad symptom to have, you know, just from being in
a toxic relationship.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
You think it's harmless, but it's not.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And so I really just had to heal from that
myself and I had to really just sit there and
I had to be honest and just write, and it
helped me heal. And I still need to heal more,
and we all.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Need we all need to heal. No one's perfect.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
But every time I ever feel, you know, any negativity,
I just sit down and I write, and luckily it's
it's I'm that's my outlet and I've been allowed to
publish and people have received it well, So that's that's
the positive thing. Just like anyone else listening, if you
have a story to tell, write it down and do
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your best to explain how you're feeling and just try,
you know, relate it to something and put it on paper.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
And you can have published a story too. You can.
Anybody can do what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
It's not it's nothing special as it's just I mean,
everyone's special, but I mean it's just our feelings. As
long as we get them ount on paper, we can
we can heal and we can help others with it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I've never heard that before. Brain damage Yeah, oh
my yeah, yeah, does it rewire or brain. I know
it changes the person because I've changed through toxic situations.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah yeah, and that's more emotional probably right, But I
know that the it does.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It definitely messes with the serotonin reuptake in your brain
and it it's uh, it causes cognitive function malfunction. So
it'd be like you can't concentrate, you can't make decisions,
you have memory issues, mental fatigue, and it causes you
to be hyper vigilant and you're always looking for emotional
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threats even if you're in a safe situation. Emotional deregulation,
so that would be uncontrollable, like outbursts or anger.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
So when you're in a new relationship, you know you
may not be able.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
To handle just little problems. You may like flash out
and anger and all of that together that causes brain damage,
all of it together. It's it messes with I believe
you're hypically I'm trying to think what part of the brain.
I believe your your prefrontal cortex, that's what it is.
And it's too logic and your decision making, So your
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logic is obviously shot when you're in a toxic relationship.
And if that's the case, then your prefrontal portext is
going to be It's it's obviously going to undergo some changes,
and it's going to take you.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
A long time to regain that control that you once had.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
You're going to have to do somatic practices, and it's
it's really not worth it, you know, to sit there and.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Go through emotional or physical abuse, and it's not worth it.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't I don't want to go through doing brain damage,
and I'd have to go through this abuse and.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Now I have brain damage. You know, I'd just rather
not be in a situation.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So hopefully some of them, some of my books can
help people not get in the situation as well. If
we can avoid it. We'll try to avoid bread.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Damage because definitely, that's pretty serious.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
It doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah, it doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So was there a part of the story you almost
didn't share?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Definitely, there were several parts of my story that I
did not want to share.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I was nervous.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But you know, we all have our we all have
those skeletons in our closets.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I guess you can't. No one knows everything about everybody, but.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Definitely, sharing you know, about my mom passing away and
doing that time. It was really a difficult time. That
was the part that I was like dreading.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It took me. It took me so long to get
through that part.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
This is and I've never been to France. It took
me so long because I could not I couldn't do it.
I would make any excuse just to avoid that chapter.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
But that was such a.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Big part of my childhood and my life that I
had to put it in there to even just you know,
share my story and be able to relate to others.
So that was definitely the hardest part of the book.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And I wrote it last. It was, I believe the
fourth chapter, but I wrote it last.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So yeah, that was probably the hardest. It was just
very hard to get through. When you lose somebody very
close to you, who you know was a good part
of your life and just healthy and your joy when
they're gone, it's hard to write about. So but it
helped me heal.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I got through it, and.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I don't wish it on anybody, But.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, do you write for yourself first or your audience first?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I write for myself. Yeah. I like to write a journal.
I like a journal. I like to write.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Now I would say I do have an obligation and
I have commitments, and I do write for the audience,
but I never modify it to adjust to anybody.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I stay true to what I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And it could be chaotic, it could be crazy, it
could be funny, you know. However I'm feeling, it's what
I'm going to put on papers. And I never really
want to change myself for to adapt to an audience,
but definitely definitely I do it to help the audience.
But yeah, so I first it was for me, and
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I think now it's going to be my next few
pieces are going to be for the audience because I
do have commitments to finish my series.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and you teach trauma healing workshops, So how do
you hope space for others while still protecting your own
mental health.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I think it's more about we heal each other.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
So in the workshops, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Really am able to go through everything again and remind myself,
you know, that we're all human. I can I can
also ask for help, you know, even even as student
that's going in there just you know, getting information for
a family member. They may be a caretaker and they
just want to get a certificate because they want to.
They're dealing with someone with dementia or you know, and
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that's traumatic. And so even somebody that doesn't really have
a lot of experience in it, I can learn from
I can learn from how they're.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Feeling and stuff.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So I think it's more of like we help each other.
And I think that's how the world should work. Anybody
you're friends with or around, or anybody you have in
your life, I think that you should kind of benefit
and help.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Each other in a positive way. And so when I'm
teaching the.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Workshop, it really it really helps me to remind myself
what's going on, you know, because I can get confident
and be like, oh, I'm never going to get in
a toxic relationship again, you know, and who knows, three
months down the line, I could be in the same position.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
If I'm not careful. We like to flip into bad habit.
So it helps me.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
The workshops help me, and they help others, and and
I think it's just it's a benefit for everybody involved
just to learn and know what trauma is.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It is important.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
A lot of people don't even know what trauma is.
Like you said, you know, you go, you think it's normal.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
You see your parents fight.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Every day, you see alcoholism or and you think it's normal.
So just kind of raising awareness to the subject of trauma,
it's pretty important.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So I read the title and don't laugh at me,
but I read I'm a Oh. I was like what,
and then I said, oh, who I am backwards.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You did better than anybody actually, So it's just great. Yeah,
I don't think there's a pronunciation. I did it to
mess with you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, when.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
So I did, it's I'm a Ahu And I don't
even know if I'm pronouncing it right. It's just that's
how I now is it so as I'm a Ahu
and it's the Bipolar Poet, And it's just for I
actually did that more for young adults that we're struggling
with coming in terms with being bipolar. And I donated
(28:15):
all the proceeds to the Samshaw the Mental Health Research
and Resources in California. And I wrote that book because
I felt that a lot of people were bipolar out
there and it's common toxic situations and they're not taking medication.
And it's important that we kind of realized if you
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don't believe in medication, you know, at least treat it
in a way that it's going to benefit people instead of,
you know, kind of studying the trauma all over the place,
because you know, mental mental illness is a number one
reason that we get in traumatic situations and it's depression
to be but bipolar disorder is a big one, and
(28:57):
I just wanted to kind of bring awareness and make
it's known that it's okay to be by poor, just
you know, you treat it, and it's not healthy when
you don't treat it, and especially if you're ashamed, no
one's going to want to go and admit it, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
So I was hoping my book would help.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
People say, hey, I'm bi poor and that's okay, and
you know, it's better than them running around and being crazy.
And I know because I'm you know, I was diagnosed
at a young age with bipolar disorder, so so and
I'm not ashamed. Event that's just something that I have
And what can I do. It's not something I could prevent,
not something I could do about it. It's just something
(29:32):
I have to come to terms with and treat. But
if I didn't treat it, i'd definitely be running around crazy.
Who knows where i'd be right now. I wouldn't be
on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But that's the thing. You were diagnosed. Think of all
the people that are not diagnosed or don't even Yeah,
and you know, we're all mingling in society together, and
someone may end up with a person who who who
(30:03):
doesn't know they have a mental illness. I won't say bipolar,
but something more severe like schizophretic, you know, and they
don't know that because because sometimes that can look normal
if you grew up around it, you know, and don't
know what it looks like because it's normal to you.
This is what you see every day. So we're all
(30:25):
mingled together in society, and people end up in you know,
tragic relationships.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, and yeah, and that's that's really just that's the
most unfortunate situation I've seen, is undiagnosed mental illness and
where it can bring people and and.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It takes life every day.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
And that's that's really and that's a Yeah, that was
a big reason why I wrote that book. It's kind
of a funny account, so not to bring light to that,
but I to do it, you know, with a little comedy.
But nothing's funny about, you know, undiagnosed mental illness. Or
mental illness at all. But I wanted to make it
a little more comfortable for whoever was suffering, you know,
(31:12):
make it more relatable. But still, yeah, it's definitely a
serious situation. And you know, even with the homeless crisis
right now, and it's we can see it's it's obvious
that we just, you know, if we've come together, and
so I can't say I don't think one person can
save the world, but if we can all get together
and come to terms and be like, yes, you know,
this is what it is, and it's okay, I don't
(31:34):
judge you, you know, and you may have this or
maybe point it out and be honest about.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Things and talk about things.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I feel like we can bring awareness to the situation
so the person that doesn't know they have it may
find out they have it, you know, or a light
bulb may go off.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Definitely, I sent out to the homeless, you know, the
ones who are fighting to get their positions back in life.
I was there at one time, one point in time
in my life. I even asked my mother one time, like,
what's something wrong with me? She's like, what do you mean?
I said, growing up, like, I know, we didn't get diagnosed,
diagnosed or anything like that. But but she just chuckled,
(32:13):
yeah you were, Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And that's that's how we're raised. You know, even my
parents didn't believe in add or ADHD. Right, that's our
general I mean, that's really the generation that I was in,
and and it was you don't talk about that kind
of stuff, you know, it kind of makes you a
sissy or or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
But it's not true. Now we're in we're we've evolved
from then and we.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
We're definitely evolving, I feel to a positive, to a
positive level.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I hope that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, if if if there is something wrong with anybody
out there, you know, it's always best to kind of
assess yourself and maybe just the accounts for there's nothing
wrong with seeing somebody to talk, you know, talking to
somebody about it, chasing that kind of thing. If it's healthy,
it's a good thing to do that. So that's my
advice to anybody out there, you know that ever had
(33:09):
doubt or wonders, just go see a professional and talk
to them and see how they you know, see what
they think. It could be nothing, but it could be something.
And if it's something that could change your life if
you fix it.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
So that's my advice.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Is there a book you still dream of writing?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes, and that is the Book of the Unlived, my
my unlived moments so far. So what's whatever is going
to be in the future and whatever is to come?
That is what I would say, it would be my
dream book.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Nice. So going beyond books, do you see yourself as
spending more into performance, podcasting or film?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
No, I you know, I tried the podcasting and you're brave.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
If I don't feel I could do that, I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Not very I get real nervous, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I like to do your headlights when I'm at first,
and I get it's just like I don't even know
if I can.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Could handle it every day.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
But I would say I do enjoy like I enjoy singing,
and I enjoy my favorite pastime is like going to karaoke,
and I enjoy doing that. Well, maybe just some of
that and just enjoying life and doing doing you know,
taking more time out for my hobbies and not so
much time to work and at the corporate office and
(34:37):
stay away from there a little more and be out
in the sun and just enjoy life. I don't really
have a plan. I kind of go with the flow
and I who knows what's who knows what's.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Next, But it could be anything, and I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Lovely, lovely. So what's your go to karaoke song? The
song that you know you're going to kill it?
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Oh? My gosh, I can't stand this song because I
sing it.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
So much before He Cheats by Carrie Underwood.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Nice, nice. I want to give us a simple no. Yeah,
I knew I was doing too much. My bad, my bad.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
What is your go to song?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
See now, I'm like a deer in a headlight.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
We know you have a shower song?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, I do. I do that several Actually, would uh anything?
Lenny Kravis fly Away Definitely.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I love Lenny Kravitz.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Good. That's a good choice right there.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
I might have to try that, yeah, right there.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Where can our listeners connect with you online, join a
workshop and pick up copies of your book?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Well you can. I definitely update on the work crops
right now.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
There's We're going to be announce in the dates next
month for the upcoming workshops for the rest of the year,
and we will be doing that on Facebook, so you
can visit me on Facebook, follow me and then you
can get updates.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
It's Sarah George infol So Facebook and then Sarah George Info.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
And you could pick up the book in Amazon, Barnes
and Noble, a Books major retailers, and that will be
hitting the actual retailers on Friday, and it's available on
Amazon now.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Congratulation, Thank you, hey listeners. We will include the links
in the description of this episode and in the show notes,
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is an act of courage, and that healing isn't linear,
(36:52):
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her latest memoir, To Be Loved, What a Tragedy, her
earlier work, and her commitment to guiding survivors through their
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Thank you as well.
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She's a four time best selling author, a fearless poet,
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and a trauma recovery educator who has made it her
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from Don't You Dare? Text them back to her latest
poet memoir memoir To Be Loved? What a Tragedy. Her
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given countless people the courage to own their truth and
heal on their own terms. So please join me in
saying welcome friend to Sarah Lynn George.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Thank you, hell, thank you so much for having me here.
I appreciate you having me on today.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Absolutely, how are you? This evening great?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So I thank you for that introduction that was kind
of you. I'm just the survivor myself, so to be
able to get back and help others, there's definitely something
that I value and I went through a lot of
stuff to get there, so it's it's I guess it's
it's definitely going to be a journey for everyone else,
(04:22):
and I'm just hoping that I can accompany everyone on
their journey as well, so they won't have to go
through and as hard as I had to go through it,
but I'm hoping for.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I love you know when people go
through things and they make it to the other side
and they realize that hey, you know, sometimes people don't
know how to navigate through their journeys or their experiences
and having you come back and you know, open the
door or open their minds to a possibility that they
(04:54):
can you know, clian their life back clean, their power
back is It's just powerful.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, it's It's definitely a gift for
me to be able to do that. I feel so
fortunate to be able to help others and it's definitely
my life goal is just to make life a little
easier for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Indeed, so, Sarah, you've been pouring your truth into your
writing and helping others reclaim theirs. What's been on your
heart and mind lately as you think about the next
chapter of your work and your own healing?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I would say that I realized something like writing my
last my last book, which was no matter what, no
matter what we go through, no matter how much we
think that we learn, we're not fully healed. You know,
we can always slip back into those patterns and definitely
give in to those toxic behaviors. And I realized, you know,
(05:55):
writing my last book, To be Loved with a Tragedy,
it took me four years to write, but it showed
me that I wasn't healed and I and I thought
that was interesting because you know, here I had been
doing the FRAMA workshops, but I'm not, you know, I
realized I'm a human being too, I'm not you know,
I actually have this feeling to do. So it kind
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of took me through my trauma again. Which I always support.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
People going through the trauma.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
It's very important that we kind of face it and
just I've head on with it. But yeah, I realized
that I wasn't fully fully healed, and writing that book,
it really just it healed me. So the next I
have three more books in that series. So what a
tragedy series. And I'm just I'm really excited to see
what I'm gonna learn about myself and see, you.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Know, how.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
How I couldn't get to know myself even better, you know,
And that's really what we wanted to get to know
ourselves so we can be the better version of ourselves
for others. And it's it's been a journey, and that's
really what I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, that's incredible. You've lived so much life before becoming
an author. When did you first realize you had a
story worth telling.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think when I I would talk to.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
My close friends about.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Certain situations and they would just gasp. I think that
was my first hint where they're like, oh my gosh,
you know, wow, we.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Don't hear that every day.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I really just didn't know that I had anything, you know,
interesting to say. I just thought everyone went through what
I went through as a child, and you know, I've
been going through trauma for so long, like a lot
of us have, and it's it's just I feel that once,
you know, I talk to my friends and they're like, wow,
you know your story. I related it back to this,
(07:46):
you know, with my relationship or yeah, my family.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
It was also like that, I wonder how I can
solve this, you know, or how did you hear from that?
And I was giving them advice and I realized that
they were taking it and we were kind of being
there for each other, Me and my friends, and it
was just and family members as well.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I realized that that's really what it's about It's.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
About not comparing your trauma to anybody, because no one's
no trauma is the same. But really just being there
to help others like get through it and telling your
story is a good way to get through it.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
There's nothing wrong with talking about your story.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
There's nothing wrong with thriving through your trauma.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And I like to kind of think of trauma as.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
A positive thing instead of a negative thing, because once
we start thinking negative, we're just gonna start getting down
on ourselves and that's where blame comes in, and we
don't want any of that. So I try to just
be I'm happy that I went through my trauma and
be proud of it, and I just hope that you know,
everybody else can be too when.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And that's a brave thing to do. How did that
first attempt at telling your true feel?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
It was scary? It was definitely scary. When I wrote
I've never been France. I thought for sure.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was going to lose a lot of people that
were close to me because it was a truth that,
you know, we don't always talk about our past, and
you know that's kind of our My skeletons in my
closet were revealed in I've Never Been to France.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Everything was laid out and I had nothing to hide.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I had kind of just can't come to terms with
the decisions that I've made in the past, and I
forgave myself and I forgave others, and I just wanted
to go.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Through everything I went through and come out better than
I was before.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And so me telling my truth was kind of me
just admitting it and being like, you know what, I'm
going to take accountability for the things that I've done,
for the things that I had to go through, and
I want people to.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
See that we can thrive regardless.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And so it was definitely a scary thing to publish
that book, but my family received it really well, and
it was really received.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I mean, the reviews were great.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Everyone was just, you know, thanking me for how much
I helped them. And once I all that, I was like, Yeah,
that's exactly what I wanted to do. That's that was
my goal right there, and.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
One person is to help one person? Was that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, So I'm interested in the title I've Never been
to France? What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
So basically it is.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
The protagonist, Lauren, is a feral definitely a feral woman.
She is not to be tamed, and she wants to
just live her life and experience everything from childhood, just
traumatic childhood and went through you know, a lot of
emotional abuse, a lot of sexual abuse.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
And and it was just she just didn't want to
be tied down. She didn't trust anybody. So that's my protagonist.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
And so I've never been to France. It is her,
you know, just basically stating I've never been to France.
But that doesn't mean I won't go to France.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
That doesn't mean I can't go to France. It's just
stating somewhere she's never been because she's going to go there.
So it's more of like a.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Goal, and it's more of just saying I may not
have ever been to France, but I will go to France, like,
you know, just a goal and a destination in mind,
and kind of it's it's more of a metaphor, you know,
never limiting yourself to anything, and anything's possible. We can
make anything that we have set our mind to, we
can make come true. And our goal of our amp,
(11:24):
you know, we can accomplish all our goals. We can
do anything we set our minds to and I guess
that's really what it's about.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, that's incredible. So you've been CEO of a marketing
firm and now a voice for survivors. How did these
two worlds shape your storyteller?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I would say that's an interesting question.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I would say that it working as a as a
CEO for a company was and working in a corporate
office is definitely different than writing and helping others, But
it was that's really what made me want to go
into a different field.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Was I was sick of the and I'm still mind you.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I still do you run the company, so I can't
say too much negative about it, but I but I,
you know, just going in every day and just seeing
how the motions and going through the motions.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And I'm a very free spirit.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I don't it's just in my nature.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I'm free.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I like to be free and I like to enjoy life.
And being in the corporate office, you can't really enjoy
life that much. And there's not really many people you
can help unless you're teaching.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Them you know how to expenditures or you know how
to do pay roles. There wasn't much that I was
really teaching.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I didn't feel like I was making a difference, and
I was bored. And so I had actually went through
a very traumatic event.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
And as you in my book, you'll if you know.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Anyone reads that in my book, it'll explain, you know,
how I went through a lot of trauma during the
times I obtained my position, and it ended up being
where I lost my house. I was living on the
streets and it was like I was I was sick.
And I decided, you know, from that being on, just
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to make decisions in order to get back on my feet.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
And I did it.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And after that, I realized that I was no longer
going to be a victim to the forty fifty hour
work week. I'm gonna definitely do what I love to do.
And that's really what changed me. Was like, I'm not
going to come here every day, which I still go there.
I still go to the office almost every day, but.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
But still at least I have books to fall back
home when I get home.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, Yeah, wow, so you've you've journeyed through a
lot of phases of life, you know. Yeah, I want
to say that. I mean, you've probably seen it all
our experience.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm so there's a.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Little bit more.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I have to see.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I'm not done yet.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I haven't been to France, I haven't been to friends.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, so that's hopefully I'll get to go there soon.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's not over. I like that. I like that. Yeah,
So what did you learn about yourself in these low points?
Because on the outside looking in, you didn't stay low
for you know, I don't know how long it lasted,
but you didn't stay there. You didn't accept that as
your fate as well. Okay, this is where I'm at now,
so this is where I stay. You know, what was
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that like for you?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It was you know, I've never really been the type
to just say just give up, and you know, Steell defeated.
I just knew I had children that I have to
support and I had to step up and through it all.
You know, I was still in a really abusive, toxic relationship,
and so that was really what was making me.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I was real depressed.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I was just feeling really insecure. And you know, you
doubt yourself a lot if other people if you're around
someone that doubts you all the time, and it's making
you feel bad.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
And I'm sure I didn't make them feel too good either.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You know it was mutually toxic, and that was really
what was my motivation. I was like, this is not
how it's going to end. I'm not going to be
I'm not going to live my life like this.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You know. I meant for more.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I've always and so is everybody. You know, we're all
capable of accomplishing things.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
But yeah, it was. It was a very dark time
in my life. But I'm proud of it.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
And instead of being ashamed, instead of feeling like I
couldn't talk about it, I said, no, I'm not going
to be a victim to this. I'm going to be
a survivor and I'm going to talk about it. Getting
honest with things was really like the first step to
my road of recovery, I think, and that's really what
helped me, is just staying honest and no matter how
bad it is, no matter how horrible it may sound,
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it's going to.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Sound better when you're saying it honestly than.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
If you're telling a liar, if you're sugarcoating things, because
you can't help anybody, if you're just you know, sugarcoating
your ways your life.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I know in those cases, sometimes you have to
hold the mirror up and look at yourself, pick yourself apart.
I know that can be toxic sometimes because you know,
we are our own worst critic, our own worst enemy,
and sometimes we could be our own best coach. What
is the safest way in your experience for others who
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have to hold this mirror up and look at themselves
and tell themselves the truth?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I would say, be kind to yourself, because, like you said,
we are our worst critic.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And when I used to look at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, I pick it apart, and I try not
to do that anymore. I try not to look at
what's on the outside, but how I'm feeling inside.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So no matter what, as long as you're.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Feeling okay inside when you look in the mirror, you're
going to feel okay on the outside.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
And that's really what it, you know, that's what matters.
I want to.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Definitely say that there are there is definitely beauty within
all of us, and and we can we can change.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
But I would say, look in the mirror and say.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Good things about yourself, positive reinforcement. No one's all bad,
you know, and sometimes we just got to forgive ourselves
enough to be able to look in the mirror again,
I guess, And.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
That's really where I think.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It's important to look at yourself and be kind, give
yourself some grace, and give yourself some flat.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Life's hard.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, to be loved? What a tragedy? Uh, that's your
latest work? Correct? Yeah? Yeah? Who's the tragedy?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
For the tragedy? For the I mean really, any that
thinks that being told you're nothing, or being emotionally abused
or physically abused or manipulated, anybody that thinks that's love,
that's the tragedy.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
But you know, some people grow up in that, in
those toxic environments and don't even realize it's toxic' Oh
that's normal. Yeah, And then you hear the stories like,
oh that is not normal.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You know, Yeah that's true. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And hopefully you know, you don't have to go through
life like that.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Unless you're comfortable.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And if you're comfortable in it, just don't bring me
down with it. Don't include me on your journey.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
How did you prepare yourself emotionally to write this?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You know I didn't. I wouldn't say I did. I
would say that I'm a pretty emotional person. I cry
at everything, you know, Huggies, a Honda commercial, wall cry, and.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I'm pretty emotional.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
So I wear my heart on my sleeve. So anytime
when I was feeling like just this, either the romantic
side of me, or the loving side, or the angry side,
or just the side that was still hurt from past
you know, trauma, I would I would just sit down
and I'd write about it, and I'd be honest and
just I'd put myself back in that moment and I'd
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be like, you know what, I how did I feel,
you know, and why did I feel that way? And
that allowed me to kind of write it and just
be honest about it, because there's when you're in a
toxic relationship, it really just takes everything out of you.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
It's like you don't you're not the same person.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
And there's been studies that have proven that, you know,
narcissistic relationships, which it's a little more severe, but I
mean narcissistic relationships that they cause brain damage.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
And so I mean that's a that's a pretty large
that's a pretty.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Bad symptom to have, you know, just from being in
a toxic relationship.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
You think it's harmless, but it's not.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And so I really just had to heal from that
myself and I had to really just sit there and
I had to be honest and just write, and it
helped me heal. And I still need to heal more,
and we all.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Need we all need to heal. No one's perfect.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
But every time I ever feel, you know, any negativity,
I just sit down and I write, and luckily it's
it's I'm that's my outlet and I've been allowed to
publish and people have received it well, So that's that's
the positive thing. Just like anyone else listening, if you
have a story to tell, write it down and do
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your best to explain how you're feeling and just try,
you know, relate it to something and put it on paper.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
And you can have published a story too. You can.
Anybody can do what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
It's not it's nothing special as it's just I mean,
everyone's special, but I mean it's just our feelings. As
long as we get them ount on paper, we can
we can heal and we can help others with it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I've never heard that before. Brain damage Yeah, oh
my yeah, yeah, does it rewire or brain. I know
it changes the person because I've changed through toxic situations.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah yeah, and that's more emotional probably right, But I
know that the it does.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It definitely messes with the serotonin reuptake in your brain
and it it's uh, it causes cognitive function malfunction. So
it'd be like you can't concentrate, you can't make decisions,
you have memory issues, mental fatigue, and it causes you
to be hyper vigilant and you're always looking for emotional
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threats even if you're in a safe situation. Emotional deregulation,
so that would be uncontrollable, like outbursts or anger.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
So when you're in a new relationship, you know you
may not be able.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
To handle just little problems. You may like flash out
and anger and all of that together that causes brain damage,
all of it together. It's it messes with I believe
you're hypically I'm trying to think what part of the brain.
I believe your your prefrontal cortex, that's what it is.
And it's too logic and your decision making, So your
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logic is obviously shot when you're in a toxic relationship.
And if that's the case, then your prefrontal portext is
going to be It's it's obviously going to undergo some changes,
and it's going to take you.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
A long time to regain that control that you once had.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
You're going to have to do somatic practices, and it's
it's really not worth it, you know, to sit there and.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Go through emotional or physical abuse, and it's not worth it.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't I don't want to go through doing brain damage,
and I'd have to go through this abuse and.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Now I have brain damage. You know, I'd just rather
not be in a situation.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So hopefully some of them, some of my books can
help people not get in the situation as well. If
we can avoid it. We'll try to avoid bread.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Damage because definitely, that's pretty serious.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
It doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah, it doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So was there a part of the story you almost
didn't share?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Definitely, there were several parts of my story that I
did not want to share.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I was nervous.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But you know, we all have our we all have
those skeletons in our closets.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I guess you can't. No one knows everything about everybody, but.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Definitely, sharing you know, about my mom passing away and
doing that time. It was really a difficult time. That
was the part that I was like dreading.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It took me. It took me so long to get
through that part.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
This is and I've never been to France. It took
me so long because I could not I couldn't do it.
I would make any excuse just to avoid that chapter.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
But that was such a.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Big part of my childhood and my life that I
had to put it in there to even just you know,
share my story and be able to relate to others.
So that was definitely the hardest part of the book.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And I wrote it last. It was, I believe the
fourth chapter, but I wrote it last.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So yeah, that was probably the hardest. It was just
very hard to get through. When you lose somebody very
close to you, who you know was a good part
of your life and just healthy and your joy when
they're gone, it's hard to write about. So but it
helped me heal.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I got through it, and.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I don't wish it on anybody, But.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, do you write for yourself first or your audience first?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
I write for myself. Yeah. I like to write a journal.
I like a journal. I like to write.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Now I would say I do have an obligation and
I have commitments, and I do write for the audience,
but I never modify it to adjust to anybody.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I stay true to what I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And it could be chaotic, it could be crazy, it
could be funny, you know. However I'm feeling, it's what
I'm going to put on papers. And I never really
want to change myself for to adapt to an audience,
but definitely definitely I do it to help the audience.
But yeah, so I first it was for me, and
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I think now it's going to be my next few
pieces are going to be for the audience because I
do have commitments to finish my series.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and you teach trauma healing workshops, So how do
you hope space for others while still protecting your own
mental health.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I think it's more about we heal each other.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
So in the workshops, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Really am able to go through everything again and remind myself,
you know, that we're all human. I can I can
also ask for help, you know, even even as student
that's going in there just you know, getting information for
a family member. They may be a caretaker and they
just want to get a certificate because they want to.
They're dealing with someone with dementia or you know, and
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that's traumatic. And so even somebody that doesn't really have
a lot of experience in it, I can learn from
I can learn from how they're.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Feeling and stuff.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So I think it's more of like we help each other.
And I think that's how the world should work. Anybody
you're friends with or around, or anybody you have in
your life, I think that you should kind of benefit
and help.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Each other in a positive way. And so when I'm
teaching the.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Workshop, it really it really helps me to remind myself
what's going on, you know, because I can get confident
and be like, oh, I'm never going to get in
a toxic relationship again, you know, and who knows, three
months down the line, I could be in the same position.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
If I'm not careful. We like to flip into bad habit.
So it helps me.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
The workshops help me, and they help others, and and
I think it's just it's a benefit for everybody involved
just to learn and know what trauma is.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It is important.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
A lot of people don't even know what trauma is.
Like you said, you know, you go, you think it's normal.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
You see your parents fight.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Every day, you see alcoholism or and you think it's normal.
So just kind of raising awareness to the subject of trauma,
it's pretty important.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So I read the title and don't laugh at me,
but I read I'm a Oh. I was like what,
and then I said, oh, who I am backwards.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You did better than anybody actually, So it's just great. Yeah,
I don't think there's a pronunciation. I did it to
mess with you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, when.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
So I did, it's I'm a Ahu And I don't
even know if I'm pronouncing it right. It's just that's
how I now is it so as I'm a Ahu
and it's the Bipolar Poet, And it's just for I
actually did that more for young adults that we're struggling
with coming in terms with being bipolar. And I donated
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all the proceeds to the Samshaw the Mental Health Research
and Resources in California. And I wrote that book because
I felt that a lot of people were bipolar out
there and it's common toxic situations and they're not taking medication.
And it's important that we kind of realized if you
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don't believe in medication, you know, at least treat it
in a way that it's going to benefit people instead of,
you know, kind of studying the trauma all over the place,
because you know, mental mental illness is a number one
reason that we get in traumatic situations and it's depression
to be but bipolar disorder is a big one, and
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I just wanted to kind of bring awareness and make
it's known that it's okay to be by poor, just
you know, you treat it, and it's not healthy when
you don't treat it, and especially if you're ashamed, no
one's going to want to go and admit it, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
So I was hoping my book would help.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
People say, hey, I'm bi poor and that's okay, and
you know, it's better than them running around and being crazy.
And I know because I'm you know, I was diagnosed
at a young age with bipolar disorder, so so and
I'm not ashamed. Event that's just something that I have
And what can I do. It's not something I could prevent,
not something I could do about it. It's just something
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I have to come to terms with and treat. But
if I didn't treat it, i'd definitely be running around crazy.
Who knows where i'd be right now. I wouldn't be
on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But that's the thing. You were diagnosed. Think of all
the people that are not diagnosed or don't even Yeah,
and you know, we're all mingling in society together, and
someone may end up with a person who who who
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doesn't know they have a mental illness. I won't say bipolar,
but something more severe like schizophretic, you know, and they
don't know that because because sometimes that can look normal
if you grew up around it, you know, and don't
know what it looks like because it's normal to you.
This is what you see every day. So we're all
(30:25):
mingled together in society, and people end up in you know,
tragic relationships.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, and yeah, and that's that's really just that's the
most unfortunate situation I've seen, is undiagnosed mental illness and
where it can bring people and and.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It takes life every day.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
And that's that's really and that's a Yeah, that was
a big reason why I wrote that book. It's kind
of a funny account, so not to bring light to that,
but I to do it, you know, with a little comedy.
But nothing's funny about, you know, undiagnosed mental illness. Or
mental illness at all. But I wanted to make it
a little more comfortable for whoever was suffering, you know,
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make it more relatable. But still, yeah, it's definitely a
serious situation. And you know, even with the homeless crisis
right now, and it's we can see it's it's obvious
that we just, you know, if we've come together, and
so I can't say I don't think one person can
save the world, but if we can all get together
and come to terms and be like, yes, you know,
this is what it is, and it's okay, I don't
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judge you, you know, and you may have this or
maybe point it out and be honest about.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Things and talk about things.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I feel like we can bring awareness to the situation
so the person that doesn't know they have it may
find out they have it, you know, or a light
bulb may go off.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Definitely, I sent out to the homeless, you know, the
ones who are fighting to get their positions back in life.
I was there at one time, one point in time
in my life. I even asked my mother one time, like,
what's something wrong with me? She's like, what do you mean?
I said, growing up, like, I know, we didn't get diagnosed,
diagnosed or anything like that. But but she just chuckled,
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yeah you were, Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And that's that's how we're raised. You know, even my
parents didn't believe in add or ADHD. Right, that's our
general I mean, that's really the generation that I was in,
and and it was you don't talk about that kind
of stuff, you know, it kind of makes you a
sissy or or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
But it's not true. Now we're in we're we've evolved
from then and we.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
We're definitely evolving, I feel to a positive, to a
positive level.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I hope that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, if if if there is something wrong with anybody
out there, you know, it's always best to kind of
assess yourself and maybe just the accounts for there's nothing
wrong with seeing somebody to talk, you know, talking to
somebody about it, chasing that kind of thing. If it's healthy,
it's a good thing to do that. So that's my
advice to anybody out there, you know that ever had
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doubt or wonders, just go see a professional and talk
to them and see how they you know, see what
they think. It could be nothing, but it could be something.
And if it's something that could change your life if
you fix it.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
So that's my advice.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Is there a book you still dream of writing?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes, and that is the Book of the Unlived, my
my unlived moments so far. So what's whatever is going
to be in the future and whatever is to come?
That is what I would say, it would be my
dream book.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Nice. So going beyond books, do you see yourself as
spending more into performance, podcasting or film?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
No, I you know, I tried the podcasting and you're brave.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
If I don't feel I could do that, I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Not very I get real nervous, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I like to do your headlights when I'm at first,
and I get it's just like I don't even know
if I can.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Could handle it every day.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
But I would say I do enjoy like I enjoy singing,
and I enjoy my favorite pastime is like going to karaoke,
and I enjoy doing that. Well, maybe just some of
that and just enjoying life and doing doing you know,
taking more time out for my hobbies and not so
much time to work and at the corporate office and
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stay away from there a little more and be out
in the sun and just enjoy life. I don't really
have a plan. I kind of go with the flow
and I who knows what's who knows what's.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Next, But it could be anything, and I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Lovely, lovely. So what's your go to karaoke song? The
song that you know you're going to kill it?
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Oh? My gosh, I can't stand this song because I
sing it.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
So much before He Cheats by Carrie Underwood.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Nice, nice. I want to give us a simple no. Yeah,
I knew I was doing too much. My bad, my bad.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
What is your go to song?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
See now, I'm like a deer in a headlight.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
We know you have a shower song?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, I do. I do that several Actually, would uh anything?
Lenny Kravis fly Away Definitely.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I love Lenny Kravitz.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Good. That's a good choice right there.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
I might have to try that, yeah, right there.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Where can our listeners connect with you online, join a
workshop and pick up copies of your book?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Well you can. I definitely update on the work crops
right now.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
There's We're going to be announce in the dates next
month for the upcoming workshops for the rest of the year,
and we will be doing that on Facebook, so you
can visit me on Facebook, follow me and then you
can get updates.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
It's Sarah George infol So Facebook and then Sarah George Info.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
And you could pick up the book in Amazon, Barnes
and Noble, a Books major retailers, and that will be
hitting the actual retailers on Friday, and it's available on
Amazon now.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Congratulation, Thank you, hey listeners. We will include the links
in the description of this episode and in the show notes,
so all you guys have to do is just click
the links. Today, Sarah George reminded us that truth telling
is an act of courage, and that healing isn't linear,
(36:52):
it's layered, it's poetic and deeply personal. We talked about
her latest memoir, To Be Loved, What a Tragedy, her
earlier work, and her commitment to guiding survivors through their
own reclamation journey. So be sure to follow Sarah's work
at Sarah Lynn georgeauthor dot com, grab her books, connect
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wonderful evening.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Thank you as well.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
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My name is Dennie and I am the host of
Vigilantes Radio Live.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think that we are beyond just.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Asking cool questions and getting cool responses. I think that
we are here at as creatives to provide an example
that you can do things different outside of expectations, because
some of us simply were not born into the club.
(38:14):
But there is perhaps a door window or backgate that
we can leave a clue for you to get into.
Life is short, but there are plenty of moments to
try and get it right. Pursuing your dreams and learning
from mistakes may be tough, but regret it's tougher to.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Book your interview.
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Email us at V radio at only one MediaGroup dot com.
That's a v as in victorious, or visit only onemediagroup
dot com. I'm counting on you, Heaven. We all are
counting on you to step into your purpose and your passion.
(38:58):
You are listening to vigilant Use Radio live on iHeartRadio,
providing you with an opportunity to dive deeper.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You and now listening to vigil Lances Radio, the people's
choice for quality interviews, art, music and heart subex hosted
by Demetrius Houzini Black Reynolds. All episodes of this podcast
are available for free download at www. Dots only one
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