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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Voice Rising with Kara John's Dad. Enjoy weekly
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sound healers as we explore the profound role our voice
plays on the path to self realization and global enlightenment.
The internationally acclaimed singer, composer, author, healer, recording artist, voice expert,
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creator of Voice Your Essence, and founder of the School
of Voice, Kara John's Dad uses her extraordinary spiritual gifts
to empower others. Everything in this world vibrates, Everything has
a frequency. A pioneer in the field of voice work
and transformational songwriting, her breakthrough methods are helping thousands of
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people worldwide fine tune their body, mind, spirit system and
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to Voice Rising today. I'm thrilled to
have with us a true leader in the personal development space.
Karen Kushik, best selling author of fifty Sentences that Make
Life Easier. Harange's work has helped thousands of individuals build
self confidence, navigate life's challenges, and find empowerment through the
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words they speak. With over twenty years of experience as
a leadership coach, Karen's approach blends practical wisdom with profound insight,
teaching us how to consciously choose our words to transform
our experiences and align with our true selves. Our best
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selling book, Fifty Sentences that Make Life Easier is a
god I'd using language as a tool for clarity, confidence,
and emotional wellbeing. And today we're going to explore the
power of words, how they shape our reality, and how
the voice plays a crucial role in personal transformation. Karn,
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Welcome to Voice Rising. I'm very excited to have you
on the show today and know that everybody else listening
is going to absolutely adore this conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So likewise, I'm really grateful for the invitation.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So your book, which I think I have about seventeen
copies of, not fifty two, I don't know, but I
actually should have one hundred. It's a perfect book for
giving to people. So anyway, your book, in this book
that has been on the best selling list for over
three years top ten. I mean, I mean, you share
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how powerful sentences can shift lives and perspective. So, first
of all, how did you first realize that a single
sentence that have such a transformative potential? And can you
share with us a little bit more about your journey
to discovering the power of words?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Hmmm, Well, I guess I've always been in love with words.
I find it fascinating that we've invented languages, so many
of them, and so many ways to describe how we
feel and to actually express ourselves.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And I mean this literally.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I've always enjoyed juggling words and playing around with them,
and so that's that's been a natural healent off mine,
I guess. But I learned about the power of language
from my first big teacher when I was in my
early twenties. He was a Native American from the Personal
Growth movement, and after my very first workshop with him,
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I stopped instantly. I stopped using negative phrase right away.
So the last time I said someone like I don't
don't forget to call Susan on Monday or so was
thirty five years ago. Ever since I'm saying remember to
call her on Monday, because that makes much more sense
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to remember something and not to forget.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And is there one sentence in your life that had
such a profound impact on you that it just turned
something around instantly and like slap on my fingers, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Was my own sentences. Interestingly enough, I was sitting in
a coaching session and somebody just couldn't accept what was
happening and wanted to blame the other people, and he
gave away his power to this other person. Who then,
could you know how you say, I'm missing a word here?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Who then was in charge of how he felt and
he didn't want that, and I that, well, it's you
decide who pushes your buttons. You decide who pushes your buttons.
And he said what no, no, no, no, he did
this and that to me, and then he said and
then I answered, And then he wrote me the email
and said, yeah, yeah, yeah, but why do you give
your power away? Keep it? You want it, you need it,
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don't do that. You decide who push your buttons. And
that's how that first sentence really occurred to me, out
of out of the blue and out of nowhere, and
it's in fact, the name of the first chatter.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You decide who pushes your buttons. That is so true.
I mean that is really true. Yeah, So how do
you see now? I know you do a lot of
also meditation, and you have your own voice practice. You
are a writer, you you love mantras. You you're a
public speaker, you are a singer songwriter, you are writing songs.
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You just love the voice. One consents that. So how
do you see the connection between conscious language and vibrational wellness?
So how does choosing a certain word intentionally affect our
own vibrational field?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I think that's how mantras were originally created, Right about
the sound and only the what you do with your
tongue and how you formulate a word. It's not so
much what it means and what it does in your body. Right,
And I love mantras. Yeah, I realized that I love
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mantras when I was on Bali and it was one
of my let's say, top three horrible days in my
entire life.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was really down.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I was somewhere else. I was just it was a
horrible breakup and a horrible night on my birthday. Everybody forgot.
It was just so horrible and all of a sudden,
I thought, maybe it's the best that ever happened to me.
And then I saw that I am saying mantra singing,
and I went and took grabbed the last place and
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I sat down. I was crying through the entire session,
and I loved it because I felt something. I felt,
really a healing. And ever since, I said, okay, I
need to know more about Montres and I want to
sing mantras. And that's what I did. And may I
say that when I told you, like I don't know
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three three years ago that I wanted to find a
singer for mantra and you said, yeah, I know. Somebody
said who is it? And I was ready write down
the name and you said her name is Katn Kushik
and I'm like, what, no, no, no, I'm not singing
it myself. And you said, oh, yes you will, and
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no, yeah, because
I was looking for somebody professional, because I didn't have
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that in mind that I could do that, and you said, no,
this is you. And I'm I'm so grateful for you
telling me. I would have never ever the idea to
do it myself.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, And then you went on to start writing and
producing more mantras. You actually shared with me last week.
You well, actually your management sent me over some tracks
and one of them is actually the first one you
must have felt this intuitively is entitled the Eat of Bali,
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which very much this connection to rhythm and vibrational power
of sound. And now I can see you on this
horrific day with tears streaming down your face, walking into
that mantra session that resonates totally between flow and balance.
Tell us a little bit more about what inspired exactly
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this song Beat of Bali before we listen to it.
So what what is?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah? What is tspiration on that?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
It was, in fact the coming out of being totally
devastated and then coming out of this and feeling healed.
Although the circumstances didn't change. I mean I was still lost,
you know, I was. I still had this horrible night,
experienced this horrible split up. The circumstances were the same,
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but my feeling was so different. I felt in her peace.
I felt that everything's going to be okay because it
is what it is, what it is anyway, no matter
how I see it, it is what it is. And
then I could relax and fall into this into reality
if you wish, Because when we're not in reality, when
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we're not here in the present tense and here now,
only then can we at all be stressed out because
we're thinking of the past. Either because it was Oh
my god, it was so good and it's over. Oh,
oh my god, it's worth so horrible, my poor childhood.
Or we go to the future. Oh I wish, I
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wish the day would come, or what if it doesn't come? So,
whatever it is, there's always two ways to, you know,
not be happy in each direction. But when you standing
here and now and you just mantra like repeat it
is what it is, what it is, then what is
there to lose? There is nothing in your hand at all.
You cannot lose something that isn't there anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right, Oh that's gorgeous. So let's listen everybody out there.
This is Karain Kushik and her track is Beat of
Bali and we're going to savor this sound.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
No, no, yeah, mh.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Bo intermace intermain to cliboration of brain limoration, Christmarity Breny,
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the sun erops a gross.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
A normal nadayana your normal, not ayana Shanti I'm Nao
Shanti a novel Nayana your novel ma Ayana Shanty.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
I'm shanty anamoanavm shan A marmaladayad.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
A normal naaianam.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
Normal that Iana Shati. I'm Naama shanty a noble Nadayana
your normal.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Ma Iyana Shanty.
Speaker 10 (12:55):
I'm Sandy Onyana shirt alm on.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That was Karen Kushik shoes with me in studio today
and you have been listening to Beat of Bali, one
of Karen Kushik's many tracks out there, many mantra tracks
out there. Karen, you've worked with so many clients. You've
worked with I don't know, hundreds of thousands. You were
so many clients to help them shift their mindsets right
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and build self confidence. I mean, that's what you do.
You're a transformer. You are an alchemist. Like you you
can take basically mud and flip it into a lotus garden.
I mean that's what you do. So how do you
encourage your clients to find their own voice and to
use it for a tool of empowerment.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, that's a wide question, Jesus. How much time?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Why?
Speaker 8 (14:34):
Why?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's that's a lotus garden question exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's a why one it is, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well, usually they have for starters. They have to want it.
When you when you work in the corporate world what
I did for twenty five years, then a lot of
people are sent to you. I never wanted to take
on people who were sent to me. I want people
who want to want to go for the change, you
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want to leave their comfort zone, who are aware of
the fact that they are taking themselves down and not
other people do that because it's so easy to say yeah,
because of him, because of her, And this is my
first checkup. So a lot of people I didn't take
on for starters because otherwise it would have been a
you know, they would have hindered me doing my job.
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I don't like that. I want to work with professional problem.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So that's always good enough because you're the problem and
you're the solution. And if somebody doesn't know that that
he's a problem, he's.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
A solution, then we can't work.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So that's that's the first step. And yeah, I feel
like I transformed a lot of people, but I didn't
transform them. I was just the interpreter, the translator, so
to speak.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And I like a mirror, a mirror a lot, and through.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Me they could see them and then what they thought
they didn't like usually and then it's then you need
strength as.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
A coach to hold it, to hold that space.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And not take it personally. And then when they crack,
then that's this beautiful magic moment when when that the
most important thirty centimeters between your head and your heart
are tu boo, when when the thing is falling down,
and then it's in the bones and you have it
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and it's your truth and you will never change it again.
And that's that's what I'm doing it for. For those
magical moments.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh, the aha moments. Yeah, that's a big one. Never like,
don't take it personally. That is a line that is
also changed my life. And you have another line in
your book that you well you mentioned the idea this
is this is for me and not against you. And
so the question is how can we use our voice
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to reinforce healthy boundaries while still showing up or still
showing compassion to others. I think a lot of times
when people are setting boundaries, it feels very harsh and
there's no compassion in the room, right. But the way
you do it or the way you've shared with us
in your book, which is You Guys is a great book.
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You should go out and get it. So it's in
the it's in the show notes. Is this is about respecting,
this is this is for me and not against you.
I'm not against you. This is what's working for me,
and you do what's working for you. And there's still
kindness in the room. Right, So how does that work?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Totally? Usually we are very easy to to trigger and
people are saying something like no offense, but yeah, no
offense but means I am offended by the way, and
I'm going to offend you now. So first of all,
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I think worrying is about as helpful as applying a
band aid before you've cut yourself. So that's that's a
line I love. That's another line that jumped into my
brain and I didn't even know where from. And I
have an idea for me. I just channeled it. So
when you when you believe in this that worrying is
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suffering an advance and there is no need to worry,
then you dare more, and then you dare more to
use your voice to speak your truth and say something
like this is not against you, this is for me,
because it's just impossible that everybody on planet Earth at
the same time gets what he or she wants. It's
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just impossible because what I want is probably silence, and
what you want is to sing and unfold, and then
we can't have it in the same room. So we
gotta we gotta talk here and and this doesn't have
to do anything with being against anybody, and that's so important.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I think.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's amazingly important. So what about self expression? Now you
talk about let's say you want to dive really deeply
into a golden silent a singing silent space. I put
it like that, and I want to sing at the
top of my lungs. What about owning our own voice?
And so how how does the way that we express
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ourself vocally I'm singing at the top of the lungs
shift not only the world around us, but our own identity.
So what what what what happens when we really take
that space of I'm going to connect with my truth
and still I'm going to be listening. I think this
is very important. People forget this. I'm going to listening
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and be respecting other people's ability to voice and to
them to be truthful, right, I'm not going to take
it personally if somebody says, you know, your voice is
too loud, Miss Johnstad, or somebody says you're too u
by by wanting to be in silence the whole time exactly.
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So how does that shift our identity? How does it
change the world the experience that we have when when
we're really living our truth and our voice.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, everybody is different. Everybody looks different, but only because
we look different. But then when when we sing, No,
let's put it this way, when we start to sing
or express ourselves, all of a sudden we expect that
everybody does it in the same way.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
Why would that be?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Why?
Speaker 12 (20:36):
What?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Who?
Speaker 11 (20:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You're blonde, you have blue eyes, I have brown hairs,
somebody doesn't have any hair, bald headed, you know, there
is so many ways to be and why would you
you expect that everybody would express themselves in the same way.
That's what I always want, very trained, and when I
gave stage stagecoachings, because some people are running their racehorses,
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and I if I'm together with a racehorse, I let
them run. Yes, it's going to be annoying to others.
Who are you know, laid back and more relaxed, and
it's too much for them, but hey, welcome. Then make
the experience of how it is if somebody is too
much for you, because you cannot make a poll before
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you start to speak on stage, for example, like how
would you like to have me? And how would you
like me to be? You just have to follow what's
inside of you, otherwise you cannot express it anyway. You
can only express what's inside of you. If you're a racehorse,
you express this. And if you want to sing out
loud now using the singing voice, then you probably this
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is your thing. And if I don't want that, it's
maybe not because I'm holding myself, like maybe it's because
that's the way I am.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, maybe everyone has their own essence.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right, there's loud people and and and silent people, and uh,
what what matters is do you allow yourself to speak
your truth and to express yourself in the way you are.
So that's the genuine part.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
If it's authentic, it's fine, And it doesn't matter what
it sounds like, what it looks like, it doesn't really matter,
but it's gotta be authentic. Otherwise you're playing a game
and and me as a coach. I'm not interested in games.
People are playing games anyway without me. So when I
come into the picture, I want things to be authentic, true,
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and genuine.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I love that authentic, true and genuine that gives, that
gives us. That gets us to the word vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
How does how does vulnerability play a role? And and
what happens when we show up and we allow ourselves
to be like the fragile human beings that we are
without having to to produce and get the no golden
vital points all the time.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well, I'm a big deal. Yeah, I'm a big believer
in admit admitting, admit everything. Oh this is my biggest week,
for instance, or this is my biggest strength. I don't
make a difference between weak strength. This is just a connotation.
This is just judging.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Why But as a matter of.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Fact, I am not very good in this, that and
the other. But why not saying it? I'm much too
for instance, I'm much too intolerant for this. What a
great sentence because somebody here obviously has thought about themselves
or herself and is reflective and honest. And so if
somebody says, oh, I'm way too intolerant for this. This
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is so cool. I was impressed when I read for
the first time. So speak out what is if it's
flattering or not flattering. Let the others the side.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
But but you say what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I love this so much because so many people
are always worried about just being correct, and then you
don't come to that honest communication right.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Or a carra or too much or too little? Right now,
I'm too loud and why would you too? Who's who's
the Who's God telling you?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like Judge?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Fuck, you're too loud? Case just missed you know who
said that?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, in their little boxes, right, yeah, I always sayin
I always say I love to wear the shoes and
not the box.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You're always running around barefoot, for instance, whether it's a
time where people are coming with their moon foods and
you are running around barefoot. That's that's how I do
remember you.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, yeah, true, they were not doing it. I I
run around barefoot, and then once in a while, when
I go out into the streets and walking on those
sidewalks with a few broken bottles, once in a while,
I do have to wear my wide really boring, you know, shoes.
I mean, I have little duck feet and they and
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then I waddle around in my little flat Yeah, you
don't care less, right, I could care less. Yeah, I
could care less. Yeah, And that is yeah exactly because
I don't. I don't want to squish my little toes
into those pointed stilettos. But I used to, you know,
I used to when I was running around and on
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stage and everything, and I used to do that. And
now I'm getting older and just saying, you know what,
I just want to I don't want So that's where
the those stiletto shoes anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
That's where the expression comes from. The shoe fits. I
didn't fit for you anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
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short break for our sponsors, so everybody else stay with us,
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Welcome back to Voice Rising. I am Courage, John said,
And we're continuing our conversation with the amazing kar And Cushik,
author of fifty Sentences that Make Life Easier. And now
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let's explore some more how these sentences can empower us
to shift from stress and self doubt clarity, confidence, and
a deeper self connection.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
By Karen.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
We are back on air.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We are, and we are too cancers being back on air.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
We are And it's like full moon. It's just it's
kind of the edge of the full moon.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That was a powerful one we had this past week.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Wow. I had to.
Speaker 15 (29:48):
I had to.
Speaker 14 (29:49):
I had to.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I didn't even have my shoes on, but I had
to take grounded somehow.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I had to, Like.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I adreamt right because moon is in Pisces anyway, so
I'm a dreamer.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And I have to tell you, I just listened to
your ad and the word serendipity appeared, and it is
one of my favorite words. And since you're are you
are the the lady of the sound, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
The woman of the words.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
What are your because your German is so good, it's
extraordinarily good. So what are your favorite words? Because mine
are like serenity, serendipity, happy, go, lucky, belly button and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Words like this, oh belly.
Speaker 16 (30:39):
My words in German in German, because English speaking audience
will then only you know grasp only only get the
sound and oh.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
My goodness, and now my brain is in English, and
I'm flipping the German.
Speaker 17 (30:53):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, right like I'm like, and there's a phrase that
I've never understood. I've asked many Germans. So the phrase
is clovvy close brewer. And so in English. In English,
if something is clear but not really clear, like kind
of clear, you'd say clear as mud.
Speaker 18 (31:17):
And so for the the English speaking people out there,
close and clues. You can also have a close in
heights no, which means that's dumpling in.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Your throat, in your dump, I mean in your throat,
a dumpling throat, I mean dumpling. It doesn't make sense.
And I've asked many German Germans. Many, Germany's many Germans.
You said, you said, you said to Germany. So what
I have asked many Germans. I say, okay, if I
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say clovy cluse brewer, does.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That mean it's very clear? No, it's not clear at all.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And I'm like, exactly, thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
What's it called nokies?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Nokis enough, that's exactly, it's ironic, I agree with.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And the Germans say, no, that means clas this the
water must always be very very clear. I said, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'm very happy that we could clear by the way
this year.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Okay. What I love to do cutting. What I love
to do is to translate directly words. For example, translate
the word for example, uh, glue into English glue bina
is is a light burn light but yeah, glowing her
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pair globe pear, like you have a globe pear hanging
from the ceiling a light bulb or.
Speaker 15 (32:55):
Speaker.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Oh, it's mirror eggs.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Mirror eggs. Would you like some mirror eggs or fried
eggs for I love it. Mirror eggs, love mirror eggs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
That's when it's sunny side up, then it's a mirror egg.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, it doesn't look like a mirror.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
At all, by the way, it looks like a mirror,
but the thing in it exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But the Germans call sunny set up eggs mirror eggs.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And they also say, yeah, you don't have no, I
don't have a I don't see why.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Actually, m yeah, Well we say sunny side up is
very poetic, very very poetic.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I love that, don't you.
Speaker 14 (33:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And I mean so and and the Germans would say cookies,
mountain cakes, you get me on my cookies.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's crazy, but you say that's the way the cookie
Krambos doesn't make it.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Very old, makes sense.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I love words.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I do too.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I love words, and I love sounds. So I was
thinking when I was writing your interview that, for example,
sentences we say that somebody's a sentient being like and
to be sensual and sentences, and it seems like it
even could be the sound of zen.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's like yeah, And so I'm you love words. I
also love words, but I love sounds, and sometimes I
do flip sounds. So I'm not dyslexic as far as
like letters, but maybe as far as sounds go. I
hear things and then I start jumping into different realities
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and I end up again trying to plant my feet
on the ground. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Did you ever have a like a jump, a time
jump that you all of are in a different time,
like fifty years ago or thirty years from now?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, every day?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Dare I don't get the question.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
No, I mean I think I do. I think we
do have the ability to shift time and reality, and
this is what we know also from music. We can
change faulse tempo harmonic ex tensions. So it's again similar
to what you're saying with words. We have a choice,
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and we can choose to run or slow down. We
can choose to We can also choose with breath and
with our consciousness if we go into anger. Sometimes it's useful, you.
Speaker 11 (35:42):
Know, to.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Mind you. And this is something people usually don't believe
or know or have never been aware of that you
can choose. You can choose how to react between the
action that happened already, the situation, and your reaction towards
that action. There's a little gap, a tiny, tiny little gap,
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and when you are aware of that gap, and it's
fair every day twenty four to seven for everybody, but
when you're aware, you can make this very very fast decision.
Do I want to let allow him to get on
my nurse or not? Do I want to say something
or not? Do I want to lean back and keep
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on moving whatever? So you can make a decision. But
usually ninety nine percent, I guess of the people don't
know that there is a time where you can because
it's so quick to it's past that you can make
a decision how you want to react, because it's never
the circumstance that's bad. It's the way how you react
towards the circumstance. And this is so theoretically totally clear
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for everybody, I guess, but in practice, in real life,
you know how they hardly ever feel it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I think that's why meditation the inner voice work, I
call it the inner voice work. That reflection is so important,
and it is very interesting. If we like to play
with words, react is to act again out of habit,
and to respond. To respond is kind of playing with
the word pond. It is to have a certain amount
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of reflection in the game. Right, I've reflected, it's reflecting. Parent.
You brought another piece, a beautiful, beautiful mantra from your collection,
and I'm so happy that I inspired you to sing
your own mantras because obviously it's working. Right, you're gorgeous.
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I mean, you're doing so many different things out there,
but we are so blessed to have more and more
mantras from you. So this one is called Rama Dasa.
I think it's a Rama dasasace so hung and right,
a lot of healing properties. So what do you love
about this mantra? They loved it so much that you
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decided to record it for us.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, it is the Kundalini healing mantra of all mantras,
and I was very ill at the time when I decided, yeah,
to sing it and to listen to it. By the way,
twenty four to seven, I had a little machine, a
Mantra BOOKX. They exist in the Indio b Gadi Mantra box.
And it was really really good for me because it
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was playing on where it's always in a loop and
I had a very very quiet which is you couldn't
hardly hear it. I knew it, but other people wouldn't
probably realize there is.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
A mantra going on.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
And it was constantly going on and on and on.
And then I did journeys.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Through my.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Cells my body. I did a body check and then
a breath work and all that to you know, to
recover and to talk to myself because there's millions of
cells every second who arrive new in our bodies. And
I'm like doing this, I'm giving this speech like Hi,
I'm Karen. Just want to welcome you. We're getting Yeah,
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this is really what I do.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Welcome to our to the body exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, And we're.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Listening to to a mantra because we want to be healed,
and thanks for supporting me in the healing process. That's
what I do, and that's what I did, and that's
when I sung that song beautiful.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Let's listen in to Ramasa say so hung.
Speaker 15 (39:45):
Hi ahman die Sa Sa say so.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Hi?
Speaker 10 (40:16):
What does Sa Sa say? So him?
Speaker 15 (40:28):
Die Sa Sa say so so die so so Mu
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said so handid.
Speaker 17 (41:07):
Harmond died so so saty so hand.
Speaker 15 (41:21):
Had sid Sa say.
Speaker 12 (41:29):
So comd dosad so sad sound.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
Sadde sad Sid say so Hima die.
Speaker 15 (42:06):
Sa say so.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Hi Sa Sa say s.
Speaker 10 (42:26):
Hima die sa Sa say so.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Ruma dasa I say so hung. This is Karen Kushik
singing for you, and she's with me in studio today.
And you asked me before we went into that mantra,
you said, did you have any time shifts? And I
just had one. I just had one. I was feeling, yeah,
I was feeling like I was listening and then I
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was drifting off and then I was like, oh, oh,
I'm actually leading an interview. I was like I was
really like allowing myself to just like yeah, like I
really be carried out to I don't know see and
the stars and the galaxy and they I was like
(43:35):
bringing myself back, you know, otherwise you would have been
talking to yourself basically.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
So yeah, oh I can do that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, oh, can I share with us a little bit
more about your own voice practice. As everybody knows that
follows voice rising, the voice does have all these many layers.
We talk about the inner voice, the meditation, the self
reflect We have speaking with journaling, we have creative writing,
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we have public speaking, we have songwriting, we have singing,
And I think so number one, what is is like
one of the ways that you just keep on connecting
to that inner truth. And number two, I believe you
are writing a book, if not more than one book
in the moment, which is also a kind of a
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voice practice, tapping in.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
The very silent voice practice. Yes, it is a voice
you constantly hear, like an inner monologue, but it is
a very silent process, which is weird in a way
because you're always writing about words but you never speak.
This is like, yeah, it is, And this is what
I put in my in my intro.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
That's what I wrote down in the intro the.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Day before yesterday, that it's a very awkward situation. Really
to constantly write about words while.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Not talking and hearing you're hearing it running your Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Totally, and I have totally, and I have to because
I'm speaking my own audiobook. I always love to speak audiobooks,
so I'll do this myself.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
So I'm writing. While I'm writing the book.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I write it so that I can read it there
because I don't want to rewrite it for the audiobook.
I want it to be, you know, like colloquial, like
laid back start a tone when I write the books already,
so if if you would read the book or when
you read the book, then you would hear me speak.
So that's that's my style and and I like that
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very much. Yeah. You know, for instance, I was almost
missing a train a week before last, and it is
so easy to you know, get stressed and blah blah
blah blah inside and everything's tight and tight is the
laaryings are tight, right, the voice book is tight, everything's tightly,
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the voice is high than it used to be. And
and then you talk to the I talked to the
taxi driver blah blah blah blah blah, and then I said,
you know what, in the same time I could do
a mantra. And what I did was like very silently,
like coming, I said, dunker dunker, dunker dunka, which means
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And this
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is what I did. Uh from here to Hoppan Hope
which is main station half an hour. So for half
an hour I was swinging in this gratefulness, in the
joy and in the the thank you sound, you know,
And I used a little bit of my boss. He
didn't hear it, the cab driver, but I used it,
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and I was right in time. I sat in the
train and everything was fine. So what we forget is
that even then we always have a choice, he relates,
So what, honey, you can't help it anyway, So why
not use it for a little mantra like thank you
or yes yes yes, yes, yes, yes, you know that.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I use simple words and then I just play loops
and it helps me very much.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh beautiful. I was thinking that this is really it
could be a very big collective moment or movement that
you are starting and I'm joining in and in the parade.
If we align ourselves as vertical instruments that we are
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with our voice and if we start flipping all these
chaotic words and start coming into this intentional language, right,
I mean, you have these fifty sentences made easier. I mean,
can you imagine that while you're in Houp bon Hoof,
I mean with like the main central train station, and
you have like whatever a thousand people running around, everybody
(47:53):
a little bit lost, and everybody starts saying thank you,
thank you, or taking a sentence and saying, hey, this
is not against you, this is for me. What a revolution?
Where is going to happen? It's like these are evolutionary times,
and I find that what is I mean, we as
we kind of come to the close of this conversation,
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what would be your vision for our humanity or our
planet based on the experiences that you have with language,
with words, with not only fifty good sentences that are
going to make our life easily, but I'm sure you
have another ten thousand sentences that.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Well.
Speaker 10 (48:36):
I think.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
It will be the empathetic people who will start that,
right because of your like egocentric you won't start a
beautiful movement with a great heart and a great vision, right,
So it's the empathetic people who will People full of compassion,
who will start it. What I found out is that
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exactly these people, unfortunately, are very easy become a pleaser
because you feel of empathy. You don't want to set
a boundary because you you don't want to be rude,
you don't want to appear rude, so that those people
struggle the most. And I want to say, empathy doesn't
oblige you to do anything. Compassion doesn't come with obligations, right,
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it doesn't come with obligation. You can and easily understand
everybody and don't like what you see and therefore set
a boundary.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
So if the empathetic.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
People would start, the big hearted people would start with
setting a charming, nice, quiet boundary and clear, crystal clear,
if I may say so, then it's going to be
easier for the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Give that's an example. Give it, because I'm one of
those empathic people that actually, yeah, yeah, but I sometimes
it's hard for me because on stage, for example, my
breath is your breath and your breath is my breath,
or the river becomes the cloud. That where are the boundaries?
Speaker 14 (50:15):
Right?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I'm just melting into and just and being supported and
with existence. So give me a clear example how well
I am trying to be nice and kind and save
the world and everything, but actually I'm losing myself and
and maybe disase.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Well, let's take the example you being on stage and
maybe someone on the first on the first round table
is constantly.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Talking, Oh, that's a mistake, right, right, you don't want that, right?
Speaker 3 (50:46):
So what you would you say something? Of course? What
would you say?
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, this is very interesting because it has happened to
me before, and it's very interesting that I've gone through
all these different phases. So I've gone from trying ignore
them and turn your head to look at other people.
I've gone to getting angry inside but still trying to
remember what I'm doing. I've gone to telling people like
stopping and saying could you please requiet. I've actually gone
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to having people leave. And now I think now it
never happens as much because I'm much more aligned, or
I'm not as polarized.
Speaker 12 (51:26):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Again, this line that you say, don't take it personally.
I set the boundary or or for me, it's about clarity.
It's clear. It's not a boundary, it's a clarity. I
don't want you to be speaking while I'm performing, right.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
So you could say, for instance, he could with a
very soft voice. You have that very soft, round, warm voice.
You look at him straight to the eye and say respect.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
Please, thank you, respect please, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
No, you could say that, or you could tell you
what you came here for. I came here to express myself.
It's much easier if you would listen, thank you so much,
thank you so much, whatever, or speedy recovery if you
don't know what to say anymore. But but but on
his head right, yeah, no, but you want to stay,
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as you said, you want to stay with the audience.
You want to share, you want to drift away, you
want to make this all possiblity. You can. If somebody
is building a wall and looks at his I don't
know mobile phone and just this that and the other.
So in a clear, very straight, very straightforward way, I
would say respect, please, thank you, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
I think, Karen, you have to record this and and
put it as a as a ring tone. It's like respect, please,
thank you. Every every time someone calls and they want
to just go on and rant and complain, it's like respect,
please you.
Speaker 17 (53:13):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (53:15):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, because I do think we are at a time
again about choice. So we have our own personal choices
in every moment, and we as a collective, we're also
being asked at this time to really make some pretty
clear choices. And some of the choices can be changed
so easily. And I think that is what is so
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inspiring about your work, is that if I shift it,
like I don't know what to do, I don't know
what to eat, I don't know where to go, but
I can shift that one sentence today, and it gives
me a new perspective and it's not very hard to do, right,
I can I can flip one. I can practice with
just one sentence like, oh, I'm not going to take
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it personally.
Speaker 14 (54:02):
It's one word, Yeah, tell me one word is the
word is end instead of But I love that I
do that if we would say and we would build
bridges a bad love wall.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
So I totally understand you and.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
I see it differently, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
I totally see.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I totally see what you're going through. And I'm giving
a concert.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yes, very good. I totally see that you haven't talked
to your wife for twenty years and I'm giving a concert. Respect, please,
and thank you and respect me. Thank you so thank
you Gutting so much for sharing your wisdom with us today.
You are a joy to be with. And your insights,
you know, on the well I guess into the power
(54:50):
words right and their transformative potential are inspiring for us.
All for everybody out there, go pick up a copy
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Speaker 3 (55:13):
Fifty two in English, yeah, sixteen other languages, and in
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I Decide Who Pushes My Buttons in November.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Exactly, I Decide Who Pushes My Buttons? Very good, It
was lovely to have you with me. Yeah, thanks for
having me, mate, All right, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
It is.
Speaker 19 (55:40):
Who takes a chair bat now the sun is hot?
Speaker 16 (56:04):
Turns me.
Speaker 10 (56:06):
Once we have the strang sto believe
Speaker 8 (56:28):
Blow