March 11, 2025 • 56 mins
Air Date - 10 March 2025
Music has the power to heal, awaken, and unify—but what happens when it becomes a call to action? Join voice visionary Kara Johnstad on VOICE RISING for a deeply heartfelt conversation with Shervin Boloorian, an Iranian-born, award-winning sound healer, multi-instrumentalist, and vocalist whose work bridges ancient wisdom with modern-day activism. From his sanctuary in Bali, Shervin has spent years weaving music, spirit, and purpose into transformative sound journeys. His latest album, Unbroken, is a testament to resilience, harmony, and the unshakable power of the human voice.
In This Episode, We’ll Explore:
- The Healing Power of Music – How sound can restore balance and reconnect us to our deepest selves.
- Music as Activism – Why voices raised in song can be a force for change in turbulent times.
- Sacred Sound & Ancestral Wisdom – The role of ancient melodies and vibrational healing in today’s world.
- Behind the Album Unbroken – The inspiration, message, and creative journey behind his most personal work yet.
Shervin also shares the story behind his new single, "Enjoy The Silence (All I Ever Wanted Version)," a reimagined, sound-healing take on a classic—now streaming on all platforms.
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Music has the power to heal, awaken, and unify—but what happens when it becomes a call to action? Join voice visionary Kara Johnstad on VOICE RISING for a deeply heartfelt conversation with Shervin Boloorian, an Iranian-born, award-winning sound healer, multi-instrumentalist, and vocalist whose work bridges ancient wisdom with modern-day activism. From his sanctuary in Bali, Shervin has spent years weaving music, spirit, and purpose into transformative sound journeys. His latest album, Unbroken, is a testament to resilience, harmony, and the unshakable power of the human voice.
In This Episode, We’ll Explore:
- The Healing Power of Music – How sound can restore balance and reconnect us to our deepest selves.
- Music as Activism – Why voices raised in song can be a force for change in turbulent times.
- Sacred Sound & Ancestral Wisdom – The role of ancient melodies and vibrational healing in today’s world.
- Behind the Album Unbroken – The inspiration, message, and creative journey behind his most personal work yet.
Shervin also shares the story behind his new single, "Enjoy The Silence (All I Ever Wanted Version)," a reimagined, sound-healing take on a classic—now streaming on all platforms.
https://shervinboloorian.com/
#ShervinBoloorian #VoiceRising #KaraJohnstad #Music #Interviews #Voice
#soundhealing #musicasmedicine #voicerising #sacredsound #unbrokenalbum
To get in touch with Kara Johnstad, go to http://www.karajohnstad.com/
Visit the Voice Rising show page https://omtimes.com/iom/shows/voice-rising/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Voice Rising with Kara John's Dad. Enjoy weekly
conversations with leading luminaries, pioneering visionaries, singers, poets, musicians, and
sound healers as we explore the profound role our voice
plays on the path to self realization and global enlightenment.
The internationally acclaimed singer, composer, author, healer, recording artist, voice expert,
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creator of Voice Your Essence, and founder of the School
of Voice, Kara John's Dad uses her extraordinary spiritual gifts
to empower others. Everything in this world vibrates, Everything has
a frequency. A pioneer in the field of voice work
and transformational songwriting, her breakthrough methods are helping thousands of
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people worldwide fine tune their body, mind, spirit system and
unlock the energetic frequencies of limitless creativity, health and abundance.
Share your voice, ask your questions, join in the conversation,
receive life changing positive transformation, and rise together to create
a sound world. And here's your hust Kara Johnstad.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Music has the power to heal, to unite, and to
awaken something deep within us. But what happens when music
itself becomes a bridge between cultures, between activism and art
between the ancient and the modern. Today, I'm honored to
welcome a truly extraordinary guest of Voice Rising. Chrvin Belurian
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is an award winning sound healer, multi instrumentalist and vocalists
whose music is a testament to the power of sound
as a tool for transformation. From his home in Bali
to sacred spaces around the world, Chrvin has dedicated his
life to sharing the vibrational medicine of music. His latest album,
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on Broken, is more than just a collection of songs.
It's a call to resilience, to remembrance, and to the
healing frequencies that connect us all. Serven a very warm
welcome to Voice Rising.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Hello, thank you so much for the invitation. I'm so
delighted to be here. Thank you Cover.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's so good to have you and you have you
have two new singles out there, so we're going to
get to those in the show. Your journey, I believe,
has taken you from Iron to Bali, and you mentioned
a few places in between, from activism to sound healing.
What is the red thread that ties it all together
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for you.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, it's really just the power of how music can
build community. And peace in a deeper, much more profound
way than I could ever try to try to generate
while I was in Washington, DC, working there and living there.
And it's really it comes from it comes from that
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place where you just you have an ability to emphathize
and link and be able to understand through the power
of the most universal language that I know. And that's
where I'm at right now in terms of like trying
to create more music and reach a wider audience as
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a singer songwriter while spending so much in my career
as a sound therapist. And it's kind of like it's
been my own evolution now to start delving deep and
going into my own personal journey and going into some
you know, places that aren't always so light and love
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and be able to really bring that to the surface
as a means of being able to truly share who
I am and what I'm about and the truth is
that really so so much about expressing your truth in
as well, and being able to do that through a
voice that is unencumbered.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I love that Shervan, because I do think that we
need more music in the well. It's no longer the
New age scene, but the creative conscious scene, the yoga
scene that is, like you said, not only about love
and light. We all are growing out there and have struggles,
and there's a lot of there's a lot of harsh,
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dark winds out in the world. So it's good if
we can embrace what we are struggling with and what
we're going through. And I know that you work a
lot as an activist bringing bringing consciousness to different areas.
When's the first time that you consciously remember feeling the
true healing power of music, not just as a listener,
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but as this energy flowing through you as an instrument.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Hmm, well, that's a great question. I have felt, particularly
in my journey as a youngster, a great deal of
furists and stress, and a great deal of having to
just kind of self regulate and try to bring myself
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to a place of equilibrium. And I from my all
the memories I can remember how singing to myself was
my way of being able to come into that equilibrium
in moments of great stress and pressure and fear. So
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I am kind of like this living embodiment of how
the voice, particularly the voice can create that God effect.
Of course, at that time I didn't realize that this
was happening and that this had you know, these healing
property that the voice could be able to create this
kind of space. But it was it was through this
process that I started to realize that it was really
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something that fell into my lap. And you know, later
in my life when it started to become clearer that
this was a part of where my destiny would be
leading that it would you know, it would be something
that would have such a direct impact in a way
that then I could share with others because it was
so it was so authentic.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You call your new album Unbroken and say that it's
your most personal album to date. What inspired the name
for you? What does what does unbroken mean for you?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, it's what it means to me is you know
many I would say, all of us go through some
kind of trauma or another through our lives. As it
happens repeatedly, sometimes something that gives us away, it breaks
us down in our minds. It feels like we go
into great states of depression and great states of anxiety.
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I know this is something that happened with me. I
have to even leave home at a very very young
age because my parents couldn't look after me. Based on
what they're going through. Great fortune of having a person
at Icon in my life, we really managed to become
my legal guardian and really support me through my sister Lution.
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That's what caused me to move from the UK to
the United States. And I just know that there's so
many of us that go through this process of having
the trauma sweep us away and take us under. And
I wanted to create a story, a musical story, personal story,
deeply deeply private story about how it doesn't have to
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be that type of narrative, that we can go through
these very sensive experiences in life and that we can
find our way and to not lose sight of what
it is that makes us become resilient and become more
able to adapt and respond to life, and be flexible
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in life and be able to understand others. And I
feel like that's really the core and the crux of
anybody's healing journeys. That we are provided, you know, these
challenges in our lives which then allow our true nature
to come to the surface and we get to have
a choice in many of these situations where we can,
(08:42):
you know, not let these things sweep us away. And
it's that we can choose resilience, and I feel like
I've been fortunate enough to have that choice. I've always
wanted to give back, I've always wanted to be in service,
and I feel like that's how I can do that.
Is this most recent iteration of l Arch, which is
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this the album Unbroken.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
This new single that you just brought out as a
second single from your record, from your album, it is
called this is Your Time, and it's a powerful tribute
to the resilience exactly what you're talking about, resilience of
child refugees, which is inspired by your own journey when
you set out to create this piece. What emotions of
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stories were you drawing on or is that simply what
you were talking about going from Iran to the UK
to the United States and all the uprooting that was happening.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well, I feeling a little emotional with that question. I
feel like where it was coming from was really how
it's valuable to be able to share these stories. That
it's not valuable, it's essential today because the number of
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refugees is growing, it's massively increasing, you know, It's just
it's something that is caused by conflict, something that is
caused not by people willfully wanting to leave their homes
and their family legacies, and you know, there are places
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of deep connection, but because it's been forced upon them,
and so that story is starting to get lost in translation,
because there's not an awful lot for people to be
proud of when it comes to being able to put
themselves out in the world and to really, you know,
embrace and admit that I am a refugee. I've gone
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through this process and I've had to now build my
life again. I think there's a lot of stigma when
it comes to the idea outsiders, outcasts, refugees and so forth,
which isn't necessarily positive. So I feel like these are
these are stories that get they get swept away under
the rug, they get buried because it's so difficult to
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be able to talk about them in a way that
feels accept it. And I want to try to show
that that's not necessarily the case, that this can actually
be such an important part of us understanding the modern world,
that we are now so much closer together as a
human race in terms of how the world is. You know,
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it's the diversity and the eclectic inclusivity that can be
created from all of this wonderful hoodge podge of different
cultures around and you know, you mentioned earlier before we
went on air about how everybody's really a must everybody
really has some kind of trace that goes back to
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different cultures and different parts of the world. And it's
just something right now that I feel is such a
difficult thing for people to really come to terms with
and have discussions about because of that stigma. And I
think we can see that, you know, in recent months,
with what's been happening on a political level. But it's
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just such a difficult thing to talk about. And I
was an Iranian, Ranian American. I just felt like, you know,
it was such an important thing to just lead with that,
and yeah, yeah, who I am. And this is where
my music comes from. And my music has all of
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these beautiful groups and they are a part of my
identity and others will be able to relate to that.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Let's listen to this is a second single off of
your new Unbroken album, and listen in this called this
is Your Time.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
To all those who have gone and said goodbye. You
are not for good.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
For my life was made pure a bye.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I want to find.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
The findings not my way. A voice whispered to me
that it was only level.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Can say.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
No matter how broom can you think you are?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Whatever run spot can Home was not.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
No matter how deep the scott or how fine God, stay.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
On your heart, postman too, shine, this is your time.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
So much was take.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But not mus.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Die bye, gret.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Home.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
God has mercy have everything.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
On me.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
To plan that per see.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
The midst of tragedy. It was only love I could see.
No matter how broke can you think you are?
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Whatever on spoil can harmless time, no matter how.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Deep the sky or how high come.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Stay home, no.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Matter how broken you think you are, whatever a spoken
harm is done, no matter how deep cuts the scarf or.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
How high you keep your guy, whatever this world, just
push you through anyone.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Can I know it's.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
You stay.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Man, your heart meant to.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Show This is.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Your time.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
A single off of Shervin Bealurian's newest album, Unbroken Srevin
I Believe. This song draws from a poem by Arab
American refugee manel Omar and carries this message of overcoming displacement.
So you were talking before about how music is a
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universal language, how it really was there for you when
you were a child going through so many things. What
do you believe is the role that music is playing
in balancing the narratives, especially in a world where refugees
are so often misrepresented misrepresented.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, thank you, thank you for the question of sharing
my song with your audience. I feel like the message
is that music has an uncanny power to be able
to just not only bring us into a connection with
each other and bring us into into a place of
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understanding of each other, but that there is an ability
for for us to learn about different cultures, to learn
about difference histories. Uh, you know, so much of the
tradition of all you know, all sharing of the past
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is done through music and storytelling. And I just feel
like this is you know, this is your time, is
this is today's is an anthem for us to be
able to, you know, try to bring the world together
at a time when we're just fractured and divided, when
we're looking for all the different ways that were so
different from each other. The music there, you can't, you know,
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you can't have a form of separation there when you're
listening and appreciating and understanding something that is symbolic, that
is full of lyrical content that is full of meaning
in terms of the musical power of what's being shared.
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So I just I just think that it's something that
not only can be a conveyor and an agent at
being able to express things that you don't normally hear about,
but particularly imperative right now at a time when just
you know, the world that our worlds are seemingly being
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pulled apart because of political and ideological differences, and to
kind of get into a deeper place where we can
get past the anger. You know, I feel like so
much of my life when I was in Washington, d C.
Was driven by reaction, and I see it now, see
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it happening even much more damagingly before, And sometimes you've
got to get to the grief underlying the anger in
order for us to be able to start having a
better understand of what we're dealing with without having our
own our own you know, reactions and our own past
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to dominate what's happening. So I just thought that this
story of you know, getting going through some of these
really challenging periods and trials and feeling like you're you're
completely alone and isolated, something that every single person goes
through that it's okay to be able to be there,
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and that that that there is light at the end
of the tunnel, and that sometimes you you need a
reminder from someone else who doesn't you know, who's not
going through the think things you are, a reminder that
that you're able to come out of this, that you're
that you don't have to be put away by that
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you don't have to be dominated by that path. And
it's something that just speaks very truly about my own
experience and I wanted that to come forward. And you know,
the song itself has had I play a lot of
my own instruments, I mean a multi instrumentalist for many years,
and I play the persian they on that song. You
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can hear it at the beginning coming through very directly,
and so there it is. You know, you've got this
this kind of an ethnic, very unusual instrument brought into
the song a single that put out there. It's just
again it's a reminder of where my roots are and
that there is a lot to celebrate from other parts
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of the world where we are told that danger of.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Suven. You've performed and facilitated healing sessions worldwide you're currently
in Bali, but you you work actually as a sound
healer and of course as a as a singer songwriter.
So people they talk about music as therapy, but you
take it one step deeper and talk about music as medicine.
(21:18):
What is a difference to you between music as therapy
or music therapy and music medicine.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
That's a great question. I love that. I feel like
music is medicine. It's it's life, it's life force, mh is,
it is a core of you know, it's what creates,
it's what it is jenesis. It has this sound is
(21:50):
something that is so profound, and we're just starting to
uncover the secrets. And it has all of these amazing
effects and all of these you know, physiological benefits, towering
of the heart rates, relaxing of the nervous system, the
elevation of the mood, the ETSD recovery or lowering stress
and anxiety, balancing brainways, all of these wonderful things that
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it has. And I feel like, because it has that,
there is something about it that's so much more primal
to me than any other art that it gets to
reach places that other types of mediums cannot. I feel
like it's something that can be itself and opening it
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can be an alchemical corridor. Once you start relating to
your hearing sense and feeling sounds, then you can also
open yourself up to the other senses. I feel like
this is so essential for their car because we live
in a life. We live in a society today where
we sometimes have to g normal ourselves in order to survive.
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I know I did when I was working and living
in Washington, DC, and numbing yourself can mean that you
cut yourself off from all of this incredible properties that
come from the life force that is music. I consider
sound and music to be like a best friend. It's
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there to be able to reflect to you what it
is that you need, whatever stage of life you're in,
and that to me is something that is not to
be taken lively. So I dedicated myself to this path
because I know of its quality of what what it
can do to turn anyone's life around, no matter what
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age you are, no matter where you're from. And that's
where we're at with it. You know, it's like you
look at it's not only able to sensitize you and
bring you back to the world of yourself, but it
can really allow you to open into the pathways of
nature and you know the world of how nature can
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support you. In all these Eastern traditions of how your
raid a Chinese medicine, they're all based on these principles.
You open yourself up to the center, you open yourself
up to the natural world. You get in touch with
your own nature, and in so doing it can be
a wonderful open doorway into the spiritual path that you're on.
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If that's what you're you're doing in your.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Factor, sure, then your voice is very central in your
healing work. So how do you approach singing as a
sacred practice rather than just a performance practice which many
people do. People people tend to think of, Oh, I'm
going to do the next big audition or the big show.
(24:49):
But your path is centered on music as a sacred practice.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
How do you approach that?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How do you How do you do you sing every
morning when you get out of bed and stretch your
beautiful arms, you sing with the birds?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I sing as often as I can? Nice It's something
that is just when you build your relationship to your
own voice, it's your your signature in the world. So
anything when I'm on the motorcycle scooter and scooting around.
(25:30):
I feel like in so much of the world of
music performance, there is this elaborate process in which we
have to bring the voice in through scales and you know,
these practices that are so much about perfecting. And what
I would like, you know, my students and the people
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who work with me to do, is just to get
into the habit of connecting to the voice without putting
that pressure on ourselves. The most magnetic voices and coror
maybe you can relate to this, and I've heard your
music and I can attest to it as well. But
when when you are when you are in your state
of relaxation, when you are in your your center, and
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you are able to bring your voice forward, and you've
built that relationship enough with that voice so that it
shows up to you as much as you show up
to it. That's an important But then it starts to
have this magnetic quality. It's something that I call a
magnetic voice, and it's something where you just are able
to touch people around you, no matter you know how
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skilled or unskilled you are in the technical world. In
my personal view, you're able to be able to really
touch people if it comes from that authentic place, with presidence,
with attention, and with that relationship that you built with
your voice. And so you know, I can tell myself.
I can tell when I'm giving my presentations and I'm
(27:05):
you know, I haven't connected with my boys. I haven't
spent time with it today. I haven't had enough of
you know, play with it. I haven't listened to it
and been able to communicate with it and figure out
what it is that it wants today. And it's a
it's a really it's a very multi faceted process. You
don't just show up and telling you your voice there,
(27:27):
go for it. People who are technically very advanced, they
know that it takes time to build that relationship. Just
like with any friendship, pick up the phone, you take
some time with your friends, you have a you have
a you know, process by which you get to know
each other. And I feel like we put so much
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pressure on ourself. One of the main things that I
do in my training is to really get people connect
with that authentic voice, which can create magnetic quality. Even
if it's just a very simple local pattern that's coming forward,
it has that power to be able to create a
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quality that people can relate to. It goes into that
primal place I feel like when we get into entertainment.
But it's a different attitude, different approach, different mindset, and
that works in that world. And it's just something where
you just have a different mindset when you approach it.
(28:33):
In the world of sound and music as as a
form of therapy is if you want really to touch somebody,
if it can come from that deeper place of where
you are at, it will always be successful.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, it works in that world. But I'm thinking of
so many beautiful channels and portals who probably would have
been very well supported if they would have been able
to take time a little bit of time off between
all their concerts and shows. You know, the beautiful Amy Winehouses,
or the beautiful Billie Holidays, or the Janis Joplins, or
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the you know, they just they had to or they
they tended to sometimes have to turn to alcohol or
other things because their system maybe needed to have a
shavasna or maybe needed to have a deep relax and
it wasn't They weren't able to with the tempo of
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that business. So it's it's beautiful to have spaces where
we can get to know our voice without that pressure. Sherevin,
We're going to take a short a short break, and
then we'll be back with more and more of your
new music and more about more about music and activism.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Thank you so much.
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Welcome back to Voice Rising. I'm here today with Shervin
Beulurian and we're talking about his new album Unbroken, and
also his journey and path as a sound healer and
as an activist. Sherevin, your music invites deep reflection and
yet it also carries energy and movement. So talk to
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us a little bit about balancing stillness and silence and
deep reflection with taking action and being an activist in
this world.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
That's a great question. Thank you. I feel that, you know,
music has this power to be able to reach all
different corners, of different dimensions really of being humans. And
to me, it's like, you know, I wrote a book
on sound called The Three Zones of Sound, and it's
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based on the Daoist principle of the three danciens and
the three ends are basically different energy centers of the
body that go from lowes to high. Same thing with
the low frequencies and the spectrum of sound going from
loathes to high I find a way to be able
to bring these together and find that, you know, it's
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it sounds that can create stillness are the ones that
to me are able to have more of a celestial
quality that kind of take us into those higher frequencies
that bring us into a connection to the energy of
the sky and the spaciousness, the feelings of freedom, the
feelings ex fascinate. So that's one quality of how sound
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can be able to be, you know, create a feeling
or for us. And to me, it's one of those
things where you can find instruments themselves that are teachers
to show that. For example, the bowl, you know, the
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world of sound therapy, there's crystal balls, medavals. The bowel
itself or the bell is just essentially a chamber of
empty and reminding us of finding emptiness and it goes
it helps us in that mental space of finding emptiness
and be compressing and coming out of all of the stresses.
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And to me, another way of bringing sound, in which
you're just very beautifully articulated, is to also.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Action, and to me, action, I lost you, I okay, good,
thank you, okay, thank you, wonderful HI Through action. No,
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this is an international global heart love fest. You're in Bali,
I'm in Berlin, We're in Brazil, New York City.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let's go. It's beautiful. You were talking about action.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, thank you being in Bali. You know, technical dif
are just part of everyday lives here.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's a good.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So I was talking about action, and to me, it's
like those those instruments that to me are very much
about action are more part of the lower frequency ring.
So a lot of people associate low frequency sometimes with
things that are negative, and the truth is all the
entire bandwidth of life is something that we have to navigate,
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and to me, it's these lower frequency sounds, the action
oriented sounds, sounds like the drum sounds that bring us
into connection with the earth, with the body and allow
us to move and we naturally when we hear low frequencies,
those of us who love based love to move our bodies.
And so it's to me, you know, even when you
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think of you know, protests, the activism marches, you know,
there's there is always someone who with drums or with
some instaut moments that help us to kind of coming together.
And we've been chanting together, praises together, unity of spolidarity,
and so on and so forth. So you know, I
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feel like it's something where anything in life that we
want to create, that those types of relationships with that
we have sound available to be able to support us,
and music has that ability to mobilize us, bring us
into an energetic expression, which sometimes is impossible to express
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just your work. Sometimes it's beyond the reach of language.
And when you can have an open conversation to expose
injustices and tell the story of those injustices through through music,
through sound, then you're drawing attention to oppression and injustice
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that exists in a way that can change this. That
is quo and that is the definition of activism.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'd like to listen to your track that you sent in,
which is called Enjoy the Silence. It is a remake
or a reimagined take of a classic. Do you want
to share a few words about the track before we
play it?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, this is a very fresh kind of reworking of
a somng was released in nineteen ninety by Depeche Mode.
Depeche Mode band that I've very much admired growing up
and had a very deep connection to that they helped
me through very difficult times in my own as. I've
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had some kind of linkage to this band for some
reasons for so many years. I was in a Depeche
Mode cover band so many many years ago when I
lived in La So I just felt very drawn to
do this song. I don't like to do covers that are,
you know, kind of straight ripoffs of what others are
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doing to me. I feel like there's this space for
innovation and for me to tell my story and I
bring my individual stand to what's there. And I felt
that it's a very spiritual song. It's very much the
term enjoy the Silence is one of those things where
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you have to come into a level of appreciation of
what's there with you, gratitude for what you have, being
in that place, really occupying that place. That was a
very hard thing for me to do with so much
agitation and anxiety. And so as part of that lesson,
a sort of a homage to the song into the band,
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I wanted to create.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
This let's listen, let's listening to Enjoy the Silence all
I ever wanted version, and that is from the new
album Unbroken.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
What's Like Violence.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Break class silence.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Come crashing into my little world. Painful tune here sweed through.
Can't you understand? Oh my little girl, all I have
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a want? All I have a need?
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Is he.
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In my.
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What's up? Very bad? Necessary?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
They can on.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Buses, food.
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To be friends, feliens having test Let's start treating.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
Pleasures free. That's so long sting, Let's start m fuck catapol.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Fall, I have walt Oh I haven't.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
It's it's.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
It's not very odd.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
It's the same that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Sat enjoy the silence that was so gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Riven Chiven, your album had such a rich and a
layered song. So take us a little bit into your
creative process. What does the song's journey look like from
the first inspiration and first maybe melodic idea to its
final form?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Thank you very much. I feel like it's always different.
It's where you have to kind of be very versatile
as a listener and as a as someone who's kind
of crafting something together. You have to be willing to
play around, You have to be willing to with you know,
just spend hours with your creation and feel around with it.
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To me, it seems mostly it's you know, it's different
based on what's what's what's inspiring me in the moment.
Sometimes it's a melody or some kind of collection of
notes that comes to me, and then I start to
play with that and start to bring lyrics and chords
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and various other aspects of the music to it. And
sometimes it's just like I feel like, well, this is
your time. I was looking at a poem that was
written by man all oh Mar, this beautiful being who
who is a refugee herself, and I felt such an
affinity with that poem, will let this little go win
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about just kind of setting aside the pain of the past,
and and that just brought in the gulf of emotion
and inspiration in me. That then I channeled into, you know,
adding my own lyrics, adding my own melody, crafting it
and what we're working in. This song itself was just
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kind of shelved away, didn't really go much of anywhere.
It was just kind of like my personal, my personal
you know, needs to be able to relate to what
Mana was doing and to put that into form. And
then later when I started to work with this amazing
producer Kipper Eldridge, who won Emmy and Grammy Award, or staying.
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He really kind of helped me breathe life back into
this song and get it back into a place where
it was ready to be shared with the world. Brought
his magic to it. So it's always different, it's always
got a different you know, to trajectory. I think you
as a creative can also relate to that. It really
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requires you to just have a lot of time to
be able to devote to the possibility and the potentiality
of taking something perhaps it's a motive, perhaps it's inspiration
and words, and then just elaborating on it and building
it into something that then you feel that first of all,
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primarily carries a message three to you, and secondarily that
it kind of is there and can touch others.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, we work very similarly. I think you spoke about
that beginning of the show too, this having a relationship
with our voice as if it's our beloved. I mean
having that relationship, and I think with every song that
wants to be revealed, it's the same thing. How do
we how do we befriend or how do we how
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do we understand the invitation that's being given? And it's
very it's a very different path than people saying you need,
you know, you need whatever aa ba or you need
a hook or you need because maybe what wants to
be revealed is a really long story that just doesn't
have a hook. It just is a beautiful long story, right,
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And so it's it's beautiful to hear you talk about
the path of being authentic to what what does the
tone or the poem or the rhythm or the you know,
the nay or whatever it is, what is it asking
of us? Are we open to really listen to what
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we're being asked to serve?
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Sure, even your music and healing, like we were talking about,
you do a lot of sound healing sessions. You work
with a lot of people. You're bringing people into a
deep space of connection and getting in touch with their
authentic voice and there, you know, maybe their innocent and
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beautiful creativity that they might have suppressed and to bring
them back into that playfulness. So many of us struggle
with trusting that voice, whether it's in singing or speaking
or talking about something that is deeply buried within. So
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what advice would you give to someone trying to find
their own voice or find that deeper connection to their voice.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Well, it's a great question. Again. First of all, I
just want to say something really quickly because what you
said earlier about that, you know, finding that the creative
way to be able to bring something into being and
manifest it. So I think it's really related sometimes, you know,
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the bolodies understand it. Valodies live here as with so
much of a connection to art and craft and music
as an offering, as an offering to on a spiritual level.
And it's like, you know, if you can if you
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can bring yourself not only into the mindset of someone
who is a creator as a song lighter or someone
who's crafting something, and you can find that if there's
something from perhaps your soul that wants to come through
through your art, that maybe it's something that where the
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intention is laid on a pure level of wanting to
make an offering, that it can really gift your whole perception.
And I feel like if you can start from there,
even with the voice that it's it's something that can
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even change the way that you think, it can change
your whole connection to how you think it will come
from a more profound place. I know that because as
someone who you know has as a father is very much,
very much. My whole life changed when I became a parent,
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and I thought it would be something that would actually
close me and shut me down, and boy was eye long.
It completely opened me up, not just as a human being,
on a creative level too. I started coming up with
melodies singing to my babies. I have twin boys, they're
sixteen now. Back then when they were babies, the love
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and the devotion that I felt for them when I was,
you know, putting them to bed and they were, you know,
they were boisterous to say, believe they were not they
were not tom kids at that time, and two of them,
so you're trying to put them both to bed, and
you can imagine the kind of things that you're going
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to do that. But so it makes you kind of
have to dig in and it finds, you know, a
different kind of resolve and you you kind of come
out of the formulaic face. You've become present, and it's
like something else works through you. When you are able
to bring that level of love and devotion to, you know,
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do a subject that you really feel that level of
connection to, and you can you can feel that there's
a difference. There's a difference between standing in front of
the brick wall and singing at that brick wall, and
it's compared to them, to your loved one. And if
you can really set aside that need to be able
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to push and try to force something and instead wait
and raise your sales and wait for something to take
over and allow us to carry you. That's why I
was doing as much of kids when I was seeing
to them, and it completely changed the way that I find.
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It completely brought forth a new and fresh way of
singing and something that is still alive in me today.
And when I think and I find that that's something
that is the core part of what I help my
students tap into an access when we get together and
when you start to work with now, because if they
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can feel that level of devotion and offering and love
inside them and it will ripple out, it has that
cause and effect quality to be able to each other
and be able to move down into places where they
will feel astonished by How do you prelate other? Do that?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Surevin?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
If we are going to sit together ten years from
now or even five years from now, what would your
hope be for your music and your mission, but also
for our world? What would you love to see happen
in the next five years as we put out the intent.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
Sor right, You've just come up with the best questions.
So good. I feel like I would love to look
back five years from now and say that, you know,
I'm broken created a bridge for others. I feel inspired
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not only to be able to have a beautifully creative
and crafted package of songs that tell my story and
go into my deeper places of love and loss and
finding myself and finding my own personal place in this world,
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but that that that that will carry over and that
will support others with their journeys, not only with finding
you know, solace in there in whatever hurt and pain
and trauma they've been through and overcoming that, but also
to help people to find a way and a means
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of being able to bring more therapeutic and healing music
into their lives and to find it to be a
genuine and legitimate style of failing sounds. And I feel
like that's really what we're all being called to do.
You're among us, probably chief among us in many ways
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in terms of being able to really help a wider
audience understand the benefits of how music can be a
transformative tool, and I'm just hoping that that will ripple
out and start to touch others and inspire others, inspire creatives,
inspire people who are already making music in the entertainment
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world to rethink how they formulate their music and how
they share their music and how they express themselves with
their voice. That's that's my essential wish, and I hope
that there would be many collaborations that come from that.
People are a great and influence to each other, so
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that every single person on this planet could be able
to do I love it.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Let's get every single person on this planet to be
deeply connected to their voice, their beauty, their creativity. Shift
harm to harmony. Yeah, embrace this universal language where we
are not in division, but I understand, we understand music
is unity and diversity at the same time. That's what
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I always say, Like the octave is a perfect example. Right,
everything's unified, and yet an octave is a different frequency. Sherevin,
I thank you so much for being with me today.
Much love to Bali and may your new album be
very successful.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Be grateful for theselfic humite. Thank you so much for
taking any time to have me on.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, You're welcome, Oh be blessed.
Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yes, you can find me at Shervanbelurian dot com.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Okay, Subnbelurian dot com.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yes, sage if you don't mind your saying that will do.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
No, it's all in the show notes. Everybody, check out
the show notes. When it goes up onto the streaming platforms,
you'll find Sirven Belurian's homepages and you can stream him
on all the major platforms. Bye bye no
Speaker 4 (56:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Music has the power to heal, to unite, and to
awaken something deep within us. But what happens when music
itself becomes a bridge between cultures, between activism and art
between the ancient and the modern. Today, I'm honored to
welcome a truly extraordinary guest of Voice Rising. Chrvin Belurian
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is an award winning sound healer, multi instrumentalist and vocalists
whose music is a testament to the power of sound
as a tool for transformation. From his home in Bali
to sacred spaces around the world, Chrvin has dedicated his
life to sharing the vibrational medicine of music. His latest album,
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on Broken, is more than just a collection of songs.
It's a call to resilience, to remembrance, and to the
healing frequencies that connect us all. Serven a very warm
welcome to Voice Rising.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Hello, thank you so much for the invitation. I'm so
delighted to be here. Thank you Cover.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's so good to have you and you have you
have two new singles out there, so we're going to
get to those in the show. Your journey, I believe,
has taken you from Iron to Bali, and you mentioned
a few places in between, from activism to sound healing.
What is the red thread that ties it all together
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for you.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, it's really just the power of how music can
build community. And peace in a deeper, much more profound
way than I could ever try to try to generate
while I was in Washington, DC, working there and living there.
And it's really it comes from it comes from that
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place where you just you have an ability to emphathize
and link and be able to understand through the power
of the most universal language that I know. And that's
where I'm at right now in terms of like trying
to create more music and reach a wider audience as
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a singer songwriter while spending so much in my career
as a sound therapist. And it's kind of like it's
been my own evolution now to start delving deep and
going into my own personal journey and going into some
you know, places that aren't always so light and love
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and be able to really bring that to the surface
as a means of being able to truly share who
I am and what I'm about and the truth is
that really so so much about expressing your truth in
as well, and being able to do that through a
voice that is unencumbered.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I love that Shervan, because I do think that we
need more music in the well. It's no longer the
New age scene, but the creative conscious scene, the yoga
scene that is, like you said, not only about love
and light. We all are growing out there and have struggles,
and there's a lot of there's a lot of harsh,
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dark winds out in the world. So it's good if
we can embrace what we are struggling with and what
we're going through. And I know that you work a
lot as an activist bringing bringing consciousness to different areas.
When's the first time that you consciously remember feeling the
true healing power of music, not just as a listener,
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but as this energy flowing through you as an instrument.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Hmm, well, that's a great question. I have felt, particularly
in my journey as a youngster, a great deal of
furists and stress, and a great deal of having to
just kind of self regulate and try to bring myself
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to a place of equilibrium. And I from my all
the memories I can remember how singing to myself was
my way of being able to come into that equilibrium
in moments of great stress and pressure and fear. So
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I am kind of like this living embodiment of how
the voice, particularly the voice can create that God effect.
Of course, at that time I didn't realize that this
was happening and that this had you know, these healing
property that the voice could be able to create this
kind of space. But it was it was through this
process that I started to realize that it was really
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something that fell into my lap. And you know, later
in my life when it started to become clearer that
this was a part of where my destiny would be
leading that it would you know, it would be something
that would have such a direct impact in a way
that then I could share with others because it was
so it was so authentic.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You call your new album Unbroken and say that it's
your most personal album to date. What inspired the name
for you? What does what does unbroken mean for you?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, it's what it means to me is you know
many I would say, all of us go through some
kind of trauma or another through our lives. As it
happens repeatedly, sometimes something that gives us away, it breaks
us down in our minds. It feels like we go
into great states of depression and great states of anxiety.
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I know this is something that happened with me. I
have to even leave home at a very very young
age because my parents couldn't look after me. Based on
what they're going through. Great fortune of having a person
at Icon in my life, we really managed to become
my legal guardian and really support me through my sister Lution.
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That's what caused me to move from the UK to
the United States. And I just know that there's so
many of us that go through this process of having
the trauma sweep us away and take us under. And
I wanted to create a story, a musical story, personal story,
deeply deeply private story about how it doesn't have to
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be that type of narrative, that we can go through
these very sensive experiences in life and that we can
find our way and to not lose sight of what
it is that makes us become resilient and become more
able to adapt and respond to life, and be flexible
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in life and be able to understand others. And I
feel like that's really the core and the crux of
anybody's healing journeys. That we are provided, you know, these
challenges in our lives which then allow our true nature
to come to the surface and we get to have
a choice in many of these situations where we can,
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you know, not let these things sweep us away. And
it's that we can choose resilience, and I feel like
I've been fortunate enough to have that choice. I've always
wanted to give back, I've always wanted to be in service,
and I feel like that's how I can do that.
Is this most recent iteration of l Arch, which is
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this the album Unbroken.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
This new single that you just brought out as a
second single from your record, from your album, it is
called this is Your Time, and it's a powerful tribute
to the resilience exactly what you're talking about, resilience of
child refugees, which is inspired by your own journey when
you set out to create this piece. What emotions of
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stories were you drawing on or is that simply what
you were talking about going from Iran to the UK
to the United States and all the uprooting that was happening.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well, I feeling a little emotional with that question. I
feel like where it was coming from was really how
it's valuable to be able to share these stories. That
it's not valuable, it's essential today because the number of
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refugees is growing, it's massively increasing, you know, It's just
it's something that is caused by conflict, something that is
caused not by people willfully wanting to leave their homes
and their family legacies, and you know, there are places
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of deep connection, but because it's been forced upon them,
and so that story is starting to get lost in translation,
because there's not an awful lot for people to be
proud of when it comes to being able to put
themselves out in the world and to really, you know,
embrace and admit that I am a refugee. I've gone
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through this process and I've had to now build my
life again. I think there's a lot of stigma when
it comes to the idea outsiders, outcasts, refugees and so forth,
which isn't necessarily positive. So I feel like these are
these are stories that get they get swept away under
the rug, they get buried because it's so difficult to
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be able to talk about them in a way that
feels accept it. And I want to try to show
that that's not necessarily the case, that this can actually
be such an important part of us understanding the modern world,
that we are now so much closer together as a
human race in terms of how the world is. You know,
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it's the diversity and the eclectic inclusivity that can be
created from all of this wonderful hoodge podge of different
cultures around and you know, you mentioned earlier before we
went on air about how everybody's really a must everybody
really has some kind of trace that goes back to
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different cultures and different parts of the world. And it's
just something right now that I feel is such a
difficult thing for people to really come to terms with
and have discussions about because of that stigma. And I
think we can see that, you know, in recent months,
with what's been happening on a political level. But it's
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just such a difficult thing to talk about. And I
was an Iranian, Ranian American. I just felt like, you know,
it was such an important thing to just lead with that,
and yeah, yeah, who I am. And this is where
my music comes from. And my music has all of
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these beautiful groups and they are a part of my
identity and others will be able to relate to that.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Let's listen to this is a second single off of
your new Unbroken album, and listen in this called this
is Your Time.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
To all those who have gone and said goodbye. You
are not for good.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
For my life was made pure a bye.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I want to find.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
The findings not my way. A voice whispered to me
that it was only level.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Can say.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
No matter how broom can you think you are?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Whatever run spot can Home was not.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
No matter how deep the scott or how fine God, stay.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
On your heart, postman too, shine, this is your time.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
So much was take.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
But not mus.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Die bye, gret.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Home.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
God has mercy have everything.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
On me.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
To plan that per see.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
The midst of tragedy. It was only love I could see.
No matter how broke can you think you are?
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Whatever on spoil can harmless time, no matter how.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Deep the sky or how high come.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Stay home, no.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Matter how broken you think you are, whatever a spoken
harm is done, no matter how deep cuts the scarf or.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
How high you keep your guy, whatever this world, just
push you through anyone.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Can I know it's.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
You stay.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Man, your heart meant to.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Show This is.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Your time.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
A single off of Shervin Bealurian's newest album, Unbroken Srevin
I Believe. This song draws from a poem by Arab
American refugee manel Omar and carries this message of overcoming displacement.
So you were talking before about how music is a
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universal language, how it really was there for you when
you were a child going through so many things. What
do you believe is the role that music is playing
in balancing the narratives, especially in a world where refugees
are so often misrepresented misrepresented.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, thank you, thank you for the question of sharing
my song with your audience. I feel like the message
is that music has an uncanny power to be able
to just not only bring us into a connection with
each other and bring us into into a place of
(17:11):
understanding of each other, but that there is an ability
for for us to learn about different cultures, to learn
about difference histories. Uh, you know, so much of the
tradition of all you know, all sharing of the past
(17:33):
is done through music and storytelling. And I just feel
like this is you know, this is your time, is
this is today's is an anthem for us to be
able to, you know, try to bring the world together
at a time when we're just fractured and divided, when
we're looking for all the different ways that were so
different from each other. The music there, you can't, you know,
(17:58):
you can't have a form of separation there when you're
listening and appreciating and understanding something that is symbolic, that
is full of lyrical content that is full of meaning
in terms of the musical power of what's being shared.
(18:19):
So I just I just think that it's something that
not only can be a conveyor and an agent at
being able to express things that you don't normally hear about,
but particularly imperative right now at a time when just
you know, the world that our worlds are seemingly being
(18:40):
pulled apart because of political and ideological differences, and to
kind of get into a deeper place where we can
get past the anger. You know, I feel like so
much of my life when I was in Washington, d C.
Was driven by reaction, and I see it now, see
(19:01):
it happening even much more damagingly before, And sometimes you've
got to get to the grief underlying the anger in
order for us to be able to start having a
better understand of what we're dealing with without having our
own our own you know, reactions and our own past
(19:26):
to dominate what's happening. So I just thought that this
story of you know, getting going through some of these
really challenging periods and trials and feeling like you're you're
completely alone and isolated, something that every single person goes
through that it's okay to be able to be there,
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and that that that there is light at the end
of the tunnel, and that sometimes you you need a
reminder from someone else who doesn't you know, who's not
going through the think things you are, a reminder that
that you're able to come out of this, that you're
that you don't have to be put away by that
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you don't have to be dominated by that path. And
it's something that just speaks very truly about my own
experience and I wanted that to come forward. And you know,
the song itself has had I play a lot of
my own instruments, I mean a multi instrumentalist for many years,
and I play the persian they on that song. You
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can hear it at the beginning coming through very directly,
and so there it is. You know, you've got this
this kind of an ethnic, very unusual instrument brought into
the song a single that put out there. It's just
again it's a reminder of where my roots are and
that there is a lot to celebrate from other parts
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of the world where we are told that danger of.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Suven. You've performed and facilitated healing sessions worldwide you're currently
in Bali, but you you work actually as a sound
healer and of course as a as a singer songwriter.
So people they talk about music as therapy, but you
take it one step deeper and talk about music as medicine.
(21:18):
What is a difference to you between music as therapy
or music therapy and music medicine.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
That's a great question. I love that. I feel like
music is medicine. It's it's life, it's life force, mh is,
it is a core of you know, it's what creates,
it's what it is jenesis. It has this sound is
(21:50):
something that is so profound, and we're just starting to
uncover the secrets. And it has all of these amazing
effects and all of these you know, physiological benefits, towering
of the heart rates, relaxing of the nervous system, the
elevation of the mood, the ETSD recovery or lowering stress
and anxiety, balancing brainways, all of these wonderful things that
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it has. And I feel like, because it has that,
there is something about it that's so much more primal
to me than any other art that it gets to
reach places that other types of mediums cannot. I feel
like it's something that can be itself and opening it
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can be an alchemical corridor. Once you start relating to
your hearing sense and feeling sounds, then you can also
open yourself up to the other senses. I feel like
this is so essential for their car because we live
in a life. We live in a society today where
we sometimes have to g normal ourselves in order to survive.
(22:55):
I know I did when I was working and living
in Washington, DC, and numbing yourself can mean that you
cut yourself off from all of this incredible properties that
come from the life force that is music. I consider
sound and music to be like a best friend. It's
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there to be able to reflect to you what it
is that you need, whatever stage of life you're in,
and that to me is something that is not to
be taken lively. So I dedicated myself to this path
because I know of its quality of what what it
can do to turn anyone's life around, no matter what
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age you are, no matter where you're from. And that's
where we're at with it. You know, it's like you
look at it's not only able to sensitize you and
bring you back to the world of yourself, but it
can really allow you to open into the pathways of
nature and you know the world of how nature can
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support you. In all these Eastern traditions of how your
raid a Chinese medicine, they're all based on these principles.
You open yourself up to the center, you open yourself
up to the natural world. You get in touch with
your own nature, and in so doing it can be
a wonderful open doorway into the spiritual path that you're on.
(24:26):
If that's what you're you're doing in your.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Factor, sure, then your voice is very central in your
healing work. So how do you approach singing as a
sacred practice rather than just a performance practice which many
people do. People people tend to think of, Oh, I'm
going to do the next big audition or the big show.
(24:49):
But your path is centered on music as a sacred practice.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
How do you approach that?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How do you How do you do you sing every
morning when you get out of bed and stretch your
beautiful arms, you sing with the birds?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I sing as often as I can? Nice It's something
that is just when you build your relationship to your
own voice, it's your your signature in the world. So
anything when I'm on the motorcycle scooter and scooting around.
(25:30):
I feel like in so much of the world of
music performance, there is this elaborate process in which we
have to bring the voice in through scales and you know,
these practices that are so much about perfecting. And what
I would like, you know, my students and the people
(25:52):
who work with me to do, is just to get
into the habit of connecting to the voice without putting
that pressure on ourselves. The most magnetic voices and coror
maybe you can relate to this, and I've heard your
music and I can attest to it as well. But
when when you are when you are in your state
of relaxation, when you are in your your center, and
(26:17):
you are able to bring your voice forward, and you've
built that relationship enough with that voice so that it
shows up to you as much as you show up
to it. That's an important But then it starts to
have this magnetic quality. It's something that I call a
magnetic voice, and it's something where you just are able
to touch people around you, no matter you know how
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skilled or unskilled you are in the technical world. In
my personal view, you're able to be able to really
touch people if it comes from that authentic place, with presidence,
with attention, and with that relationship that you built with
your voice. And so you know, I can tell myself.
I can tell when I'm giving my presentations and I'm
(27:05):
you know, I haven't connected with my boys. I haven't
spent time with it today. I haven't had enough of
you know, play with it. I haven't listened to it
and been able to communicate with it and figure out
what it is that it wants today. And it's a
it's a really it's a very multi faceted process. You
don't just show up and telling you your voice there,
(27:27):
go for it. People who are technically very advanced, they
know that it takes time to build that relationship. Just
like with any friendship, pick up the phone, you take
some time with your friends, you have a you have
a you know, process by which you get to know
each other. And I feel like we put so much
(27:51):
pressure on ourself. One of the main things that I
do in my training is to really get people connect
with that authentic voice, which can create magnetic quality. Even
if it's just a very simple local pattern that's coming forward,
it has that power to be able to create a
(28:13):
quality that people can relate to. It goes into that
primal place I feel like when we get into entertainment.
But it's a different attitude, different approach, different mindset, and
that works in that world. And it's just something where
you just have a different mindset when you approach it.
(28:33):
In the world of sound and music as as a
form of therapy is if you want really to touch somebody,
if it can come from that deeper place of where
you are at, it will always be successful.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, it works in that world. But I'm thinking of
so many beautiful channels and portals who probably would have
been very well supported if they would have been able
to take time a little bit of time off between
all their concerts and shows. You know, the beautiful Amy Winehouses,
or the beautiful Billie Holidays, or the Janis Joplins, or
(29:11):
the you know, they just they had to or they
they tended to sometimes have to turn to alcohol or
other things because their system maybe needed to have a
shavasna or maybe needed to have a deep relax and
it wasn't They weren't able to with the tempo of
(29:31):
that business. So it's it's beautiful to have spaces where
we can get to know our voice without that pressure. Sherevin,
We're going to take a short a short break, and
then we'll be back with more and more of your
new music and more about more about music and activism.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Thank you so much.
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Welcome back to Voice Rising. I'm here today with Shervin
Beulurian and we're talking about his new album Unbroken, and
also his journey and path as a sound healer and
as an activist. Sherevin, your music invites deep reflection and
yet it also carries energy and movement. So talk to
(33:05):
us a little bit about balancing stillness and silence and
deep reflection with taking action and being an activist in
this world.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
That's a great question. Thank you. I feel that, you know,
music has this power to be able to reach all
different corners, of different dimensions really of being humans. And
to me, it's like, you know, I wrote a book
on sound called The Three Zones of Sound, and it's
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based on the Daoist principle of the three danciens and
the three ends are basically different energy centers of the
body that go from lowes to high. Same thing with
the low frequencies and the spectrum of sound going from
loathes to high I find a way to be able
to bring these together and find that, you know, it's
(34:01):
it sounds that can create stillness are the ones that
to me are able to have more of a celestial
quality that kind of take us into those higher frequencies
that bring us into a connection to the energy of
the sky and the spaciousness, the feelings of freedom, the
feelings ex fascinate. So that's one quality of how sound
(34:25):
can be able to be, you know, create a feeling
or for us. And to me, it's one of those
things where you can find instruments themselves that are teachers
to show that. For example, the bowl, you know, the
(34:46):
world of sound therapy, there's crystal balls, medavals. The bowel
itself or the bell is just essentially a chamber of
empty and reminding us of finding emptiness and it goes
it helps us in that mental space of finding emptiness
and be compressing and coming out of all of the stresses.
(35:07):
And to me, another way of bringing sound, in which
you're just very beautifully articulated, is to also.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Action, and to me, action, I lost you, I okay, good,
thank you, okay, thank you, wonderful HI Through action. No,
(35:45):
this is an international global heart love fest. You're in Bali,
I'm in Berlin, We're in Brazil, New York City.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let's go. It's beautiful. You were talking about action.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, thank you being in Bali. You know, technical dif
are just part of everyday lives here.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's a good.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So I was talking about action, and to me, it's
like those those instruments that to me are very much
about action are more part of the lower frequency ring.
So a lot of people associate low frequency sometimes with
things that are negative, and the truth is all the
entire bandwidth of life is something that we have to navigate,
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and to me, it's these lower frequency sounds, the action
oriented sounds, sounds like the drum sounds that bring us
into connection with the earth, with the body and allow
us to move and we naturally when we hear low frequencies,
those of us who love based love to move our bodies.
And so it's to me, you know, even when you
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think of you know, protests, the activism marches, you know,
there's there is always someone who with drums or with
some instaut moments that help us to kind of coming together.
And we've been chanting together, praises together, unity of spolidarity,
and so on and so forth. So you know, I
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feel like it's something where anything in life that we
want to create, that those types of relationships with that
we have sound available to be able to support us,
and music has that ability to mobilize us, bring us
into an energetic expression, which sometimes is impossible to express
(37:36):
just your work. Sometimes it's beyond the reach of language.
And when you can have an open conversation to expose
injustices and tell the story of those injustices through through music,
through sound, then you're drawing attention to oppression and injustice
(37:57):
that exists in a way that can change this. That
is quo and that is the definition of activism.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'd like to listen to your track that you sent in,
which is called Enjoy the Silence. It is a remake
or a reimagined take of a classic. Do you want
to share a few words about the track before we
play it?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, this is a very fresh kind of reworking of
a somng was released in nineteen ninety by Depeche Mode.
Depeche Mode band that I've very much admired growing up
and had a very deep connection to that they helped
me through very difficult times in my own as. I've
(38:47):
had some kind of linkage to this band for some
reasons for so many years. I was in a Depeche
Mode cover band so many many years ago when I
lived in La So I just felt very drawn to
do this song. I don't like to do covers that are,
you know, kind of straight ripoffs of what others are
(39:09):
doing to me. I feel like there's this space for
innovation and for me to tell my story and I
bring my individual stand to what's there. And I felt
that it's a very spiritual song. It's very much the
term enjoy the Silence is one of those things where
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you have to come into a level of appreciation of
what's there with you, gratitude for what you have, being
in that place, really occupying that place. That was a
very hard thing for me to do with so much
agitation and anxiety. And so as part of that lesson,
a sort of a homage to the song into the band,
(39:51):
I wanted to create.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
This let's listen, let's listening to Enjoy the Silence all
I ever wanted version, and that is from the new
album Unbroken.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
What's Like Violence.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Break class silence.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Come crashing into my little world. Painful tune here sweed through.
Can't you understand? Oh my little girl, all I have
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a want? All I have a need?
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Is he.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
In my.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
What's up? Very bad? Necessary?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
They can on.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Buses, food.
Speaker 9 (41:15):
To be friends, feliens having test Let's start treating.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
Pleasures free. That's so long sting, Let's start m fuck catapol.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Fall, I have walt Oh I haven't.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
It's it's.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
It's not very odd.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
It's the same that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Sat enjoy the silence that was so gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Riven Chiven, your album had such a rich and a
layered song. So take us a little bit into your
creative process. What does the song's journey look like from
the first inspiration and first maybe melodic idea to its
final form?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Thank you very much. I feel like it's always different.
It's where you have to kind of be very versatile
as a listener and as a as someone who's kind
of crafting something together. You have to be willing to
play around, You have to be willing to with you know,
just spend hours with your creation and feel around with it.
(43:30):
To me, it seems mostly it's you know, it's different
based on what's what's what's inspiring me in the moment.
Sometimes it's a melody or some kind of collection of
notes that comes to me, and then I start to
play with that and start to bring lyrics and chords
(43:53):
and various other aspects of the music to it. And
sometimes it's just like I feel like, well, this is
your time. I was looking at a poem that was
written by man all oh Mar, this beautiful being who
who is a refugee herself, and I felt such an
affinity with that poem, will let this little go win
(44:16):
about just kind of setting aside the pain of the past,
and and that just brought in the gulf of emotion
and inspiration in me. That then I channeled into, you know,
adding my own lyrics, adding my own melody, crafting it
and what we're working in. This song itself was just
(44:36):
kind of shelved away, didn't really go much of anywhere.
It was just kind of like my personal, my personal
you know, needs to be able to relate to what
Mana was doing and to put that into form. And
then later when I started to work with this amazing
producer Kipper Eldridge, who won Emmy and Grammy Award, or staying.
(45:02):
He really kind of helped me breathe life back into
this song and get it back into a place where
it was ready to be shared with the world. Brought
his magic to it. So it's always different, it's always
got a different you know, to trajectory. I think you
as a creative can also relate to that. It really
(45:24):
requires you to just have a lot of time to
be able to devote to the possibility and the potentiality
of taking something perhaps it's a motive, perhaps it's inspiration
and words, and then just elaborating on it and building
it into something that then you feel that first of all,
(45:45):
primarily carries a message three to you, and secondarily that
it kind of is there and can touch others.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, we work very similarly. I think you spoke about
that beginning of the show too, this having a relationship
with our voice as if it's our beloved. I mean
having that relationship, and I think with every song that
wants to be revealed, it's the same thing. How do
we how do we befriend or how do we how
(46:19):
do we understand the invitation that's being given? And it's
very it's a very different path than people saying you need,
you know, you need whatever aa ba or you need
a hook or you need because maybe what wants to
be revealed is a really long story that just doesn't
have a hook. It just is a beautiful long story, right,
(46:46):
And so it's it's beautiful to hear you talk about
the path of being authentic to what what does the
tone or the poem or the rhythm or the you know,
the nay or whatever it is, what is it asking
of us? Are we open to really listen to what
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we're being asked to serve?
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Sure, even your music and healing, like we were talking about,
you do a lot of sound healing sessions. You work
with a lot of people. You're bringing people into a
deep space of connection and getting in touch with their
authentic voice and there, you know, maybe their innocent and
(47:34):
beautiful creativity that they might have suppressed and to bring
them back into that playfulness. So many of us struggle
with trusting that voice, whether it's in singing or speaking
or talking about something that is deeply buried within. So
(47:55):
what advice would you give to someone trying to find
their own voice or find that deeper connection to their voice.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Well, it's a great question. Again. First of all, I
just want to say something really quickly because what you
said earlier about that, you know, finding that the creative
way to be able to bring something into being and
manifest it. So I think it's really related sometimes, you know,
(48:26):
the bolodies understand it. Valodies live here as with so
much of a connection to art and craft and music
as an offering, as an offering to on a spiritual level.
And it's like, you know, if you can if you
(48:50):
can bring yourself not only into the mindset of someone
who is a creator as a song lighter or someone
who's crafting something, and you can find that if there's
something from perhaps your soul that wants to come through
through your art, that maybe it's something that where the
(49:14):
intention is laid on a pure level of wanting to
make an offering, that it can really gift your whole perception.
And I feel like if you can start from there,
even with the voice that it's it's something that can
(49:37):
even change the way that you think, it can change
your whole connection to how you think it will come
from a more profound place. I know that because as
someone who you know has as a father is very much,
very much. My whole life changed when I became a parent,
(50:01):
and I thought it would be something that would actually
close me and shut me down, and boy was eye long.
It completely opened me up, not just as a human being,
on a creative level too. I started coming up with
melodies singing to my babies. I have twin boys, they're
sixteen now. Back then when they were babies, the love
(50:24):
and the devotion that I felt for them when I was,
you know, putting them to bed and they were, you know,
they were boisterous to say, believe they were not they
were not tom kids at that time, and two of them,
so you're trying to put them both to bed, and
you can imagine the kind of things that you're going
(50:45):
to do that. But so it makes you kind of
have to dig in and it finds, you know, a
different kind of resolve and you you kind of come
out of the formulaic face. You've become present, and it's
like something else works through you. When you are able
to bring that level of love and devotion to, you know,
(51:06):
do a subject that you really feel that level of
connection to, and you can you can feel that there's
a difference. There's a difference between standing in front of
the brick wall and singing at that brick wall, and
it's compared to them, to your loved one. And if
you can really set aside that need to be able
(51:29):
to push and try to force something and instead wait
and raise your sales and wait for something to take
over and allow us to carry you. That's why I
was doing as much of kids when I was seeing
to them, and it completely changed the way that I find.
(51:50):
It completely brought forth a new and fresh way of
singing and something that is still alive in me today.
And when I think and I find that that's something
that is the core part of what I help my
students tap into an access when we get together and
when you start to work with now, because if they
(52:12):
can feel that level of devotion and offering and love
inside them and it will ripple out, it has that
cause and effect quality to be able to each other
and be able to move down into places where they
will feel astonished by How do you prelate other? Do that?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Surevin?
Speaker 3 (52:37):
If we are going to sit together ten years from
now or even five years from now, what would your
hope be for your music and your mission, but also
for our world? What would you love to see happen
in the next five years as we put out the intent.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
Sor right, You've just come up with the best questions.
So good. I feel like I would love to look
back five years from now and say that, you know,
I'm broken created a bridge for others. I feel inspired
(53:22):
not only to be able to have a beautifully creative
and crafted package of songs that tell my story and
go into my deeper places of love and loss and
finding myself and finding my own personal place in this world,
(53:43):
but that that that that will carry over and that
will support others with their journeys, not only with finding
you know, solace in there in whatever hurt and pain
and trauma they've been through and overcoming that, but also
to help people to find a way and a means
(54:07):
of being able to bring more therapeutic and healing music
into their lives and to find it to be a
genuine and legitimate style of failing sounds. And I feel
like that's really what we're all being called to do.
You're among us, probably chief among us in many ways
(54:29):
in terms of being able to really help a wider
audience understand the benefits of how music can be a
transformative tool, and I'm just hoping that that will ripple
out and start to touch others and inspire others, inspire creatives,
inspire people who are already making music in the entertainment
(54:51):
world to rethink how they formulate their music and how
they share their music and how they express themselves with
their voice. That's that's my essential wish, and I hope
that there would be many collaborations that come from that.
People are a great and influence to each other, so
(55:11):
that every single person on this planet could be able
to do I love it.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Let's get every single person on this planet to be
deeply connected to their voice, their beauty, their creativity. Shift
harm to harmony. Yeah, embrace this universal language where we
are not in division, but I understand, we understand music
is unity and diversity at the same time. That's what
(55:40):
I always say, Like the octave is a perfect example. Right,
everything's unified, and yet an octave is a different frequency. Sherevin,
I thank you so much for being with me today.
Much love to Bali and may your new album be
very successful.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Be grateful for theselfic humite. Thank you so much for
taking any time to have me on.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, You're welcome, Oh be blessed.
Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yes, you can find me at Shervanbelurian dot com.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Okay, Subnbelurian dot com.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yes, sage if you don't mind your saying that will do.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
No, it's all in the show notes. Everybody, check out
the show notes. When it goes up onto the streaming platforms,
you'll find Sirven Belurian's homepages and you can stream him
on all the major platforms. Bye bye no
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yea
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