November 7, 2024 • 58 mins
Air Date - 04 November 2024
We are excited to announce the next episode of VOICE RISING, where host Kara Johnstad will engage in a transformative conversation with the remarkable Jeralyn Glass. In her new book, Sacred Vibrations: The Transformative Power of Crystalline Sound and Music, Jeralyn illuminates the profound healing potential of sound, particularly through crystal singing bowls.
As an accomplished singer, musician, and sound healer, Jeralyn has dedicated her life to exploring the intersection of music, spirituality, and healing. She believes that our vocal journey not only tunes us into ourselves but also connects us deeply with our communities, emphasizing the importance of voice in our creative processes.
Join us as we delve into Jeralyn’s insights on how sound can be a powerful tool for self-discovery and transformation, guiding us toward harmony and well-being in our chaotic world. This episode is essential for anyone seeking to harness their voice’s healing energy and explore sound’s magic.
Connect with Kara Johnstad at https://karajohnstad.com Visit Jeralyn Glass at https://www.jeralynglass.com/
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We are excited to announce the next episode of VOICE RISING, where host Kara Johnstad will engage in a transformative conversation with the remarkable Jeralyn Glass. In her new book, Sacred Vibrations: The Transformative Power of Crystalline Sound and Music, Jeralyn illuminates the profound healing potential of sound, particularly through crystal singing bowls.
As an accomplished singer, musician, and sound healer, Jeralyn has dedicated her life to exploring the intersection of music, spirituality, and healing. She believes that our vocal journey not only tunes us into ourselves but also connects us deeply with our communities, emphasizing the importance of voice in our creative processes.
Join us as we delve into Jeralyn’s insights on how sound can be a powerful tool for self-discovery and transformation, guiding us toward harmony and well-being in our chaotic world. This episode is essential for anyone seeking to harness their voice’s healing energy and explore sound’s magic.
Connect with Kara Johnstad at https://karajohnstad.com Visit Jeralyn Glass at https://www.jeralynglass.com/
#JeralynGlass #VoiceRising #MusicAsMedicine #SoundHealing #KaraJohnstad #Music #Interviews #Voice
#SacredVibrations #SoundHealing #CrystallineSound #MusicAsMedicine #HealingThroughSound #TransformationalMusic #VibrationalHealing #EnergyMedicine #FrequencyMedicine
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Share your voice, ask your questions, join us in the conversation,
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Voice Rising today. I am thrilled
to have the talented Jerlyn Glass with us as a
renowned sound healer and author of the transformative book Sacred Vibrations.
Jarlyn has dedicated her life to exploring the healing power
of sound and music. Her work combines ancient wisdom with
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modern techniques, particularly through the use of crystal singing bowls,
and this helps individuals reconnect with their authentic selves. So
join us as we delve into her insights on how
sound can be a profound tool for healing, self discovery,
and community connection. Welcome Jerlyn to the show today.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Thank you, Kara. I'm looking forward to sharing conversations.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yes, it's going to be awesome your book. First of all, congratulations,
I have a copy of it sitting right next to me.
And well, my first question is a question for your heart.
You describe music as love in search of a word.
Can you elaborate on this concept, love in search of
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a word? And how does it resonate with what you're
doing out there in our world.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, that is a quote that's been near and dear
to my heart by Sidney Lanier, and I used it
on my first recital, my first classical content that I
gave when I was nineteen. I think we hold the
frequency of love. That's what I talk about in the book,
that inherent in music when we have pure intention that
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music is love, it helps us to touch places that
we can't touch any other way. I think music really
goes deep into the core of us, deep into our soul,
and love is that vibration that brings healing to our
love is the vibration that brings transformation. And that's been
my experience. And I've been a professional singer since I'm
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nineteen and have sung all around the world, sung on
Broadway and big European concert houses and theaters, and no
matter what language people speak, music is the language of
the heart. And I think that's what's meant for me,
is that it's love. It's a flowing expression of love,
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and that really transforms us.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think you're right, and singers musicians too. There's something
magical that happens when you're singing live. There's a synchronicity
between all the heartbeats in the room, between the breath
of all the people, right. I think that is that
magical presence that people feel and why they go and
experience live music. They go to the opera house, they
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go to a jazz concert, they go to a yoga studio,
because suddenly those people, everybody in the room is one heart,
one love, one breath. Why do you think, Jerlyn, there
seems to be a really a movement happening with sound healing,
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that sound healing is gaining mainstream recognition as a very
effective therapy practice. What's behind that?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think, Kara, because in my own life and in
the lives of many many people that I'm working with
around the world, there is no one size fits all
for medicine for healing. And I think sound and music
is such a personal thing. You know, you might like
listening to Beethoven, somebody else might like listening to Pharrell.
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Someone else might like listening to Frank Sinatra or country music.
It's like, there's so many express of music, and that
was just like a tiny little piece of all that's possible.
Music is really something that can be a balm. Music
is something that can really soothe our soul. You know
that old quote that said music soothes the savage beast
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or the savage breast, Like music has the ability to
unite us, music has the ability to calm us. Music
has the ability to bring us home. And I think
in a world today where there's so much chaos and
violence and stress and pain and loss and despair and
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depression and anxiety. I could go on and on and on.
I think that music is something that truly is available
to everybody and it doesn't really have a side effect.
So I think that, you know, I'm really honored to
be involved in this in this profession now, and I
was honored to speak in Washington, d C. Last year
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for a big conference called Music is Medicine. And you know,
music is being used to help Parkinson's patients, cancer patients,
dementia patients, anxiety, depressions, veterans, hospice, it's being used during pregnancy.
Music can be used in any situation in our lives,
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and it's incredibly powerful.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And do you think that with sound healing if I'm
thinking of maybe the crystal balls or harp music, that
a lot of it is a deep flow and doesn't
always have the set tempo or pattern I mean, I mean,
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of course there's a set patterning, but I'm just wondering,
because what you're saying could be it could apply to classical,
it could apply to country that we find great comfort
in many genres of music, but the sound healing genre
for Tibetan singing bowls, crystal singing bowls, framed drum. It's
really on the rise. And is that because there's a
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place where there's just no words. It's just you can
sense more the energy in the room and then work
with the energy. If the energy is slowing down, the
musician can also work with that is not as fixed
as let's say a twelve bar blues or a thirty
two bar you know, jazz standard.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, this is great, and this is so great
to store car. I remember as a young singer, I
was actually living in Berlin at the time that Berlin
was still divided, and I remember going to hear Herbert
Fontari and the great great conductor conductor Berlin Philharmonic, and
he played Missus Solemnis of Beethoven, and I just remember
when he walked out on that stage that you could
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hear a pin drop in that room, and that music,
just as you were saying earlier, held the audience in
such a space. Now, of course there's besides the synthem
the section, the orchestra section, there's for soloists, and there's
text to it. What you just asked about, crystal singing bulls,
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frame drum, the Tibetan or Himalayan singing bowls. What I've
experienced is when I first heard those instruments, it was
as if my mind just went, WHOA, this is music.
This is so beautiful. But it's unlike anything i'd ever
heard before, you know, And being a singer musician, I'd
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heard just about most of all the instruments that exist,
but I had never heard that. And what happened, Carr
is that it's stilled my mind. So in that moment,
my mind focused on the exquisiteness of the sound, and
I dropped deep inside and I had this sense of
being connected to all that is. I had the sense
of that sound being something so ancient that the very
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cells of me knew. So, yes, there is something when
we're working with sound and sound as medicine, sound as
a healing modality, there is something very very powerful about
just these sounds. And for me as a musician, all
use particular intervals, particular sequences that create a structure. For
people with the frame drum, that can be a rhythmic
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thing that helps to end train. But I think the
main thing your mind becomes still and you're able to
access your deep inner wisdom, your deep place of love.
As we already mentioned, and your deep place of a
trust in something bigger. So whether we want to call
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it the divine or God, or higher consciousness or elevation,
however you want to name it, these kinds of sounds
and the exquisite purity, for example, of the courts, and
the courts I found because I used to work with
the himal Antibetan singing bows, and I'd use those before
every performance. I would warm myself up, I'd put one
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of them on my belly, and i'd tone to it
before i'd go out on stage. But when I heard
the Crystal Alchemy singing bowls, it was different, Kara. And
there's something about them that our bodies are course like
in structure, so we have course like structure bones in
our blood. And I was able to receive those bowls
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in a way, those sounds, in a way that I
had never received anything else. And what as I walked
through my own grief, as I've worked with cancer patients,
as I've worked with hospice or veterans, it's the same
thing I see unified everywhere, that people drop into that
place of stillness and they land in the essence of
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who they are. They land in the deep trust of
themselves and something really loving and benevolent. That's been what
my experience in what I have shared and experienced with
others around the world.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Let's listen to these beautiful the awakening track, Awakening Visions
is something that you sent over and we can listen
in and our listeners can get an idea for your work,
which is very vast like you, like you said, you know,
I've heard meditations, I've heard different songs and different you
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have different audio tracks, but this one you sent in
Awakening Visions. Do you want to share something about the
track before we jump in?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Sure, it's in Grammy consideration. And it was something that
I had a vision about, an awakening vision though that
I had a vision about creating. It's the whole album.
It's ninety one minutes, I think, and it's based on
different versions of the pentatonic scale. And perhaps you know
this that in two thousand and eight in the north
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of Germany they found these little birdbone flutes and the
you know, said that they could be from between forty
to sixty thousand years ago, and some of them were
tuned to the pentatonic scale. So it's not the pentatonic
scale in music doesn't just go back to the time
of Pythagoras. It's something and there's a wonderful expression of
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Bobby McPherrin speaking at a science festival where he demonstrates
that wherever he goes in the world, people know this
pattern of notes. So what I did was we took
different pentatonic scales and different keys, and I worked with
a fabulous musician, Chris Shohler, who creates soundscapes, and we
made half of the album have these soundscapes. So again,
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the pentatonic scale of the crystal singing bowls all mixed
with different alchemies and Chris created soundscapes around them, so
they had different vocals, different instruments. And then the second
half of the album has two spoken guided meditations to
educate a little bit about what we're doing with sound
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and the importance of the pentatonic scale. And then there's
solo bull tracks. So what you're playing now is something
that I did with Chris, So it's got the soundscapes
in it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Beautiful. Let's listen in Awakening Visions Darling Glass.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Cont in computt.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, gorgeous. You were listening to Awakening Visions by Jerlyn Glass.
He's with me here in studio. Jerylyn creates music design
to elevate your consciousness and awaken your inner potential. That's
a very lovely way I can imagine to slip into sleep,
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or to meditate, or light a candle and drink a tea.
So it's up for a Grammy. Is that what I understood?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's in Grammy consideration. We'll know at the end of
this week.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So yeah, it was very exciting. I feel like this
kind of music is it's it's really important I think
for people to have this to listen to, whether they
listen in the background where they listen as you said,
in a state of meditation. It's for me. I know
that it's part of my daily routine of what I'm
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doing to stay calm and grounded and centered. And you'll
hear in all the album that there's always deep sounding bowls,
there's middle octave centering bowls, and then there's beautiful high
note bowls that helped to expand us. So that particular
track was about really activating and opening the third eye.
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So that that's why I'm called Awakens, so that we
have that ability to stay grounded and stable, centered within ourselves,
but at the same time to open to the bigger possibilities,
to the infinite, to more of our own intuition and
ability to see light when we're in a place of darkness,
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or simply to see light in the darkness that exists,
so that you're moving yourself to a more elevated way
of looking at your life and looking at the world.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Were you singing on that track? There was there were vocals?
Was that your voice?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah? And my voice in combination with other voices?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Beautiful, beautiful. So you talk in your book about about
you talk a lot about performing and being also in
Germany for those of you out there that don't know,
I'm sitting in Berlin. So Jolyn and I we didn't
know each other at that time, but we were in
Berlin at the same time before the wall fell. And
I believe you talk in the book about Annetta Warren.
(18:41):
Is that correct about your vocal coach, your teachers? So
what are some of the qualities that you learn through
studying voice and performing that you use now in your
work of sound healing?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Well, she's one hundred and two and if you heard
her saying, you would simply be blown away. So she
sang the voice of Ava Gardner in the MGM musical Showboat,
and she dubbed for Lucille Ball and she had her
own career on Broadway. But I think she taught me
truly a healthy vocalism and how to be natural and
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use your authentic voice, because I think often what I
find in my students is that sometimes we have a
question mark on our back and we're not sure can
we really express like this, can we really open our
human instrument? And I think that's what she gave me,
is this really strong and grounded ability to be myself
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and to trust in that. And you know, when I
was going into the profession at a very young age,
she was like, now you have to be prepared because
you really have to have a very strong gut. You
have to have a gut of iron, because as you
put yourself out in the world, there'll be lots of
acceptances and rejections and you can't take it personally. So
she taught me a lot at a very young age.
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I started studying with her when I was eleven, and
I was the youngest WOW aching at that time. But
I think the most important thing she taught me, which
I bring forward now in my work is a healthy
breast support that's really based up what is called whole
person awareness and really working with your transfers of dominus muscles,
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your internal extol oblique opening up the intercostal muscles between
the ribs. So yeah, I just treasure her. And you know,
it's also amazing that she has some kind of partial dementia,
but when you ask her to sing a song, boom,
she remembers every single lyric. And that's also such an
interesting thing to me that music can really help us
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to keep ourselves present in a certain way and can
help Yeah, it can really help our mental capacity.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think one hundred and two big shout out to
her and to Warren out there. I think, Yeah, a
lot of people don't realize that music is a whole
brain endeavor and experience, and people that have experienced also
strokes that they have difficulties speaking and no difficulties singing,
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or like you said, dementia. There are many people that
are struggling with dementia and when they sing, they know
all the lyrics, all the words. So I do have
a joke in my family because I know so many
songs that you know, T for two and two for tea.
I'll always manage to at least get fed because I
will be able to be all these these great songs
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or at least, you know, go for a good wallz
or a dance out there. So let's talk to me
a little bit about you also talk about the vibrational signature,
that each and every one of us has a vibrational signature.
How can someone get to know what their signature is,
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or their vocal print or or even it probably goes
much further than that, and how can they strengthen this
unique vibrational essence.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a big that's a big topic.
That's a big focus on what I'm teaching people. So
there's not like one particular thing you can do, but
I think it's to recognize that we are unique. In
all of time, there's one of us, and you know,
we laugh when we hear people imitating no known celebrities,
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you know, but each of us has our own vocal sumprint.
So the important thing is to realize that there isn't
anyone else in the world like you, and to accept
that and to love into that and to ground this
sense of Okay, if I'm speaking like this with car,
if I'm hey, you know whatever, I want to make
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sound with my voice. This is my unique signature, and
how do I cultivate that? How do I work with
that essence that is who I truly am. So one
good way is simply to start in the morning, like
when I'm under the shower. I love to go and
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just siren up and down. So the sound is starting
below my feet, and I siren up out up through
my central channel, up and out my crown, and I
imagine bringing the light and my sound down back into
my body, having it drop down through the central channel
and release out through the soles of my feet. So
first of all, it's also just recognizing that it's not
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up to us to judge it. It's good if we
can take the guess off our back as I learned
as a young singer, And it's really important that we know, hey,
we were given a particular gift, and it's all the
different things that people are talented at, or people are compassionate,
or they're helpful in this way, or they're a good teacher,
(24:18):
or they're a good engineer, whatever it is. But to
recognize each person is a unique human instrument in this
big orchestra that we call humanity.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is such an important thought.
I always tell people it's our connecting life voice to ourselves.
It helps us stay aligned but also in community to
each other. And it's twenty four to seven giving us feedback,
and so we need to fall in love with the
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vibrational signature that gives us feedback, right, because it doesn't
do any good. I have a lot of people that
come to me and they're like, I don't like my
I don't like my voice out like myself. Well, the
first thing is to fall in love with the beauty
of what we are, and then we can work on, yeah,
polishing a little bit, or like you say, you know,
doing sirens. That's a fantastic thing to do in the
(25:11):
shower because all the humidity too, is just really fun.
I tend to do lip you know, the whole lip
sirens with my lip drills and poodle and all these
things in the shower. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think in our world today, because also there's so
much focused with social media on comparison, I think that
also just landing in the truth of who you are
through your sound is important.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
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Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, we had a multi layered vocal experience there in
the break that just shows on how many layers voice
is happening. Talk to us about authenticity. I think we
touched a little bit with vibrational signature sound. But how
is sound healing a way to connect with our authentic self?
(29:04):
And are there any techniques that you can help listeners
who are just starting out on the path of sound
healing that they get a little bit closer to yeah,
to finding their own way, maybe even to play the
instruments or to choose their instruments.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, I mean, I think one thing that's excuse me
important is that no two singing bowls are the same,
and depending upon who I'm playing for, sometimes they play different.
And that's also I think this whole part of what
feels good to you? Do I like four hundred and
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thirty two hurts tuning? Do I like music today? Four
forty herts? Do I like five twenty eight hurts? Do
I like a rose Chorts bowl? So it's finding really
that there really is this no one size fits all
and finding what feels good to you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, I think that that is important. You go through
that in the book a little bit. The four thirty
two tuning, So for everybody out there that doesn't know
about music, that's often in how many times the what
would you say? It's vibrating at four hundred and thirty
two times at the A on the what we would
(30:24):
know as the middle part of the piano, right or
four hundred and forty, So it shifts a little bit
the feeling. But it's hard to tell the difference between
a four forty A and a four thirty two A.
It's I would say the four thirty two is a
little bit more mellow. What would you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Say, Yeah, it is, it's a tiny bit lower. Yeah,
this whole thing once again. Sometimes people will come to
me and they'll say, I want to set at four
thirty two hurts, and then I'll play for them bowls
that are tuned and they love those.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I think for for people that want to
share the music in a community, maybe with a grand
piano or an instrument that is tuned to the typical
tuning of four forty I know people that have hung
drums and they've chosen the four thirty two, and it's
often difficult when they come into a community of different
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instruments to then be able to play together. So it's
it's something just to consider, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So when people come to me for a consultation to
put together a bowl set for them, one of the
first things I'll ask them is are you a musician?
Do you want to play with other musicians? And if
you do, then we need to stick with a four
forty pert tuned set in less like in some instances,
certain harmoniums are tuned to four thirty two a wonderful
musician and cimrit Her harmonium is tuned to five twenty eight.
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So that's an important for me as a musician because
I don't believe that sound when it's discordant can be
super super helpful. I believe very much because what I
went through in my own life that needed something really coherent.
I needed something that I felt safe, that I could
drop in and feel, you know, pretty deep feelings. So
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that's one of the first questions I'll ask is are
you a musician? And you don't That's the cool thing
about the goals. You don't have to be a musician,
you know, because simply there's a technique of swirling around
the bowl, tapping the bowl, and it's not you know,
it's not like I studied piano for ten years or
violin for fifteen years or whatever. It's not like that.
So that's part of the joy for people is that
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they can play an instrument where I've had students say
to me, Jerrel and I played for a yoga class
and they said, you're incredible. You were like a goddess.
What did I do? You know are people that have
been in situations and played with mainstream musicians and just
were like, wow, I could hold my own place with them.
That's that's the beauty of playing the balls one of
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the parts.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, it's very intuitive, it's it's very intuitive, and I
think the beauty is that you feel the the intent
and the love of the person playing the balls. So
not everybody can play the ball who doesn't want to
stay in that place of love and deep meditation and compassion.
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Then it probably, just like any other instrument, is going
to sound like someone's hitting a glass. It'll sound like noise.
It takes sensitive sensitivity, right, But The beauty is, like
you said, different than playing a piano or even a guitar.
Anybody who's tried to play an f court on a
guitar and realizes, wow, I'm gonna need callouses first before
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I even yeah on my fingertips. The beauty is that
you can and you can start even just with one bowl, right,
I mean, you don't. You don't need to buy the
whole set. You could even start with one bowl or
one ball in a shrewd eye box or so it's you.
You can access the like you said, the place of holding.
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You can play alone, and you can play in community exactly.
Let's listen to one more well, let's listen to one
more track. Tell us a little bit about expansion, insightful
rest mm hm.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
So I feel like it's important that expansion.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
No, it's we seem to have a little echo, but
I'm I think Chris has got it taken care of.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay, there was a duet happening car that was really
I feel like for many of us also in this
these times that are agitated, for many of us that
sleep is really really crucial. So this track was really
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about how do we relax deeply and are able to
fall into a peaceful and long, healthy sleep. And yeah,
it's built on the Patonic scale.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Love It, Let's there's an expansion inside Forestatonic scale. Love It.
Let's this is an expansion inside the wrist. Love This's
this an expansion inside the wrist, an expansion inside for.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Expension.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Another gorgeous track, Garline Expansion, Insightful rest For those of
you that are just tuning in off of Deerlin Glasses,
I think it's your most recent album and that was
so restorative.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, so it was interesting in that one I used.
You could hear there was what I call a shimmering sound,
and it was a deep register. So technically, if we
were in a laboratory, you could call that a biniral beat,
because one ear would be isolating one of the sounds
and the other ear isolating the other sound. But in
mid playing live like that, I put two bowls together.
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There's another piece we did called Joy Reboot, which is
a song I wrote the lyrics for and it's based
on the Ninth Symphony of Beethoven, and I start the
piece with that same sort of it's the tapping of
two deep balls that make this kind of shimmer together.
What you heard in that track was really a deep
dive that would bring you into a very deep brainwave state.
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So it's helping to really help us again relax at
a very profound level.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Regenerate, Yeah, regenerate, talk to us how these beautiful bulls
in this music or if we're daring enough to start
the practice, and you do have a shop in LA
and do coaching and teaching all over the world, how
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can it help us with releasing physical pain and emotional trauma?
What kind of stories, what kind of kind of events
have your experience when people start to come back to
this deep, relaxing, restorative place.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Oh, my gosh, cars so many beautiful experiences of I
just played live in LA for a veterans event, and
I've been playing for that organization for seven years. And
one of the stories I wrote about in the book
about a sergeant who after a twenty minute sound experience
just stood up and said, I've experienced everything. I've been raped,
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I've seen my friends die, I've been in war, I've
been given every pal known to man. And she said,
I have never ever felt anything like what I felt
from these instruments, And gosh, with cancer patients who had
three different situations where somebody who three different women who
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had each had my sectomies just really exclaimed in one
under and in awe that they felt they were whole again,
that they felt they weren't missing a piece of themselves anymore.
Or a child who was experiencing extreme anxiety in school
and got beyond that, or a Parkinson's patient that stop trembling.
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I've had a number of those that just stop trembling.
But I think for the average person, the sound is something,
and especially what I love to work with, this beat
frequency sound, this shimmering sound. It just brings you deeply,
deeply into yourself. I'd want experience. While I was playing
in Thailand at a well known resort there, a medical
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healing resort, and one of the guests was from South
Africa worked in the computer industry, and afterwards he just
was like, jeralis, what kind of voudoo did you do?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
And they all laugh, and you know, he went further
to say, you know, I have never been able to
quiet my thinking mind. It's just always active, always active,
or else whole. I fall asleep, he said, right, he said,
I wide awake, but my mind was still what happened, right, So,
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I mean, it's just it's a different I've had young people,
you know, who have suddenly had big inspirations because they
got real quiet and suddenly their true authentic voice as
we were talking about earlier, and their creativity rose to
the surface where they could really hear it. I've had
medical doctors who've had physical pains that no pills have
been able to really really alleviate. My back pain is gone,
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my knee pain is gone. So I think this is
really a field. As you asked earlier, how is music
becoming our medicine? How is that really becoming a viable
choice for people? And it's not that I can make
a prescription and say, okay, if I play you this,
see bowl that's an amethyst, you know that's going to
do this that or the other. It's again, what we
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talked about is very individual and it could be I mean, car,
what I find so fascinating, like when I worked through
my own grief. So I lost my nineteen year old
son nine years ago, and as I was working through
my own grief, you know, you would think, okay, it's
a broken heart. We've got to go into the heart
chakra area, and we have to work with the heart. Well,
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the bowl that first opened me up and really really
cracked me wide or open to land and the grief
was not a bowl for the heart. So again it's
important to understand it's not one to one. So if
you had if you have an issue for my in
my case, that was a bowl for the throat chakra.
So it was really about releasing and releasing and vocalizing
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the pain that I couldn't put into words. I was
in tox therapy and I couldn't. I couldn't. The words
alone did not help to move the grief. They put
a band aid on it, right, So I think, yeah,
there's some things that we all are challenged by and
sound can help us really create a safe container that
for me, I was able to drop in and breathe
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and feel with that one selenite bull And the alchemy
of selenite has to do with grounded white light, or
has to do with a bridging heaven and earth, And
that changed my whole life. That started me on this
path of Wow. The singing bowls really helped me to
land and feel the grief in a way that I
couldn't and I was keening and groaning and making sounds.
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And then when I got up, after about fifty minutes
of working with one single bowl like that, I washed
my face and I looked in my eyes and there
was light in them. There was joy, the spart of
joy in my eyes. And I was like this, this
is incredible. Something is happening beyond my comprehension. Right and again,
you know, as a singer, all my professional life, I
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knew that music had the power to touch us, no
question about that. I had experienced that time and time
again throughout performances. That this was the real deal. This
was grief where no anti depressant would bring my sunback,
and it wouldn't it wouldn't change the fact. And I
needed to be able to deal with the fact. How
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do you deal with or if somebody has a debilitating
illness or as you said, of physical pain, how do
we deal with that? And one thing, working with hospice
here in Los Angeles, one of the hospice doctors it's
just an angel on legs, has said there may not
be a cure for everything, but everyone can heal, So,
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in other words, there may not be a cure for
what we are suffering. From but everybody can find this
place of deep peace and a sense of acceptance and healing,
you know, And that's a it's a different way for
me to look at things, like there are times where
I just miss my son insanely, but I understand there's
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a bigger picture to our lives, and he's working with
me from wherever he is. He's working with me and
helping me share sound and all kinds of miraculous things.
But I think it's important that we can understand there
is a bigger picture for each of our lives, and
music can play a really crucial part in how we
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accept and how we move forward in our lives with
our challenges.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah. I think the bulls are also so magical because they,
like you said, we are a crystalline structure, and so
when they are in resonance with our body, then that
any kind of stuckness or blockages can just be dissolved
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and then our energy is and flow again. It was
you know, yeah, no share.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You know. When I was living in Germany, I had
created a children's foundation called Kids for Kids, and it
was based out of Munich and we were making original
musical theater productions and raising money for a music therapy
program that we started, and one of the girl, she
was sixteen at the time. I was giving her voice
lessons and she had kind of a blockage going up
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into her upper range. So I asked her to take
one of the singing bowls and she started to play it,
and she started to make sounds ah a a. She
started to make sounds with the ball her voice and
trained with the ball, and suddenly her whole vocal instrument
opened up, and she remembered a trauma and she shared
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with me a memory from her childhood that was she
had totally blocked. So you know, I've come to see
in my own self and in my work that we
may have tucked things away, did a go around with
our energy because they were too big at the time.
And suddenly the sound is going in there, and it's
just gently and lovingly back to how we started. Music
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is love. It's lovingly going into those places where as
you said, energy is stock or blocked, and it's gently
dissipating them. It's and training and moving them. And I've
seen that time and time again. It was the contest
was at Sea, which is the parting youth in Germany
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playing music you know, and that was a momentous occasion
for me. That was at the very beginning when I
was starting to use the bulls and her whole instrument
just opened up. I had a student at the university
where I was teaching in La that also just said, Jerylyn,
there was like this. I had her play and improvise,
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you know, so just use her voice in an improvised manner,
and she said there was such a bitterness, and she
was so surprising to me. She called her parents that
evening and just said something. She just named it bitterness,
and she was a very sweet and bubbly kind of personality.
She said, I've never been in touch with that. It
was an anger and a bitterness that was really deeply
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hidden inside me. And as I toned with the bulls,
she shared it it also, so it's just released and
it dissipated. I've watched time and time again, Kara, how
just simple things with a singing bowl can help to
release things that we didn't even know we had stuff down. Yeah,
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it's very important, you know, because healing is you know,
we ask ourselves a question, how do we heal? How
do we transform? How do we strengthen our connection with
the divine with God. How do we do that? And
sound of music is is so available to everybody, no
matter what culture, no matter what language, no matter what religion.
And these instruments that are, you know, single toned, but
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they've got lots and lots of overtones on them. And
then as a musician, there's lots of ways to structure
them together to make this kind of tapestry that again,
this allows people to close their eyes, relax, deeply, drop
into their subconscious and just breathe and feel things and
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they begin to transform and heal. And I experienced it
in my own being because people said to me after
my son died, just you know, you'll never get over it. It's done.
Your life is done. And it was like, oh, my goodness,
that can't carr. That can't be. It can't be. Got
to be a bigger picture to it. And with working
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with the Singing Bulls and my voice and all the
musical skills that I cultivated since I'm a professional musician,
it just it changed everything. It's given me a real
safety net and it's given me a real ability that's
becoming more and more science backed of what music can do.
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And yet still what's so interesting to me is what
I described hearing Herbert Francari and conductor Beethoven Missus Slemnus
in the Berlin or Philharmonic, was that there is this
element of music that connects human beings to the place
of the ineffable. When you sit and hear a song
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or a symphony or whatever it is that really moves you,
you drop into this place of the sublime where there
are no words. And I feel like this is part
of the power and magic of music. Is that what
you were saying about the bulls being single toned with
you know, all these overtones. They drop us down into
a very deep place and there's no words for it.
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And healing doesn't necessarily happen with words, you know, healing
happens by breathing and feeling and allowing and accepting and releasing.
We don't necessarily need to talk about those things that
are so profound and so deep.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, I mean, there are moments where words help us,
and there are moments like you say that we're just speechless.
We can't we don't know how to articulate. And I've
been also working with the pre verbal trauma, so trauma
that happens before we even have words words, right, So
I think it's incredibly empowering to know that we have
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tools that are gorgeous. I mean gorgeous, right. The singing
bowls are gorgeous. It's not like we're going to suffer,
you know, we have gorgeous tools to accompany us on
the healing journey of creating sound to mind, sound body,
a sound world. We open the show with your new book,
Sacred Vibrations. What would you love readers to take away
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from the book? Or of course we want all the
people out there to get a copy and put it
underneath the Christmas tree or in the stockings or wherever
you or birthday presence. But what would you like the
readers to take away from Sacred Vibrations?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Gosh, I think that music really can be a medicine,
and that music and sound used with intention can really
change our lives. And throughout the book, there's intimate stories,
there's science that's running through it. There's what we call
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sound r ex's, so there's shared experiences of myself and
different practitioners around the world who have been using the
singing bowls, and then there's a QR code on page
two hundred and thirty three that connects you to downloadable meditations.
So I wanted people to hear, oh, what is five
twenty eighthtz? What does that feel like? How do I
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experience that? For forty for thirty two, And then there's
a beautiful twenty minute film that I'm very very proud
of where we where we put a little bit of
the theme of the Ninth Symphony of Beethoven, and that's
been an important it's an important piece, you know, for
humanity about freedom and unity. So I think that people
take away that this is a field that has been
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around since the beginning of time and is recirculating, as
you said, and really becoming a very poignant path for
many people now that music can be a modern day
medicine and can really help us. And yeah, as I
shared my story in the book and how that it's
going to help to me. And then we also created
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an oracle deck with Hayhouse, the Crystal Sound Healing Oracle,
and that's the first deck of it's kind that you
can put your phone on QR codes and actually hear
the sounds of the bulls. So I'm very proud of that. Yeah,
very cool, very cool, product, the Crystal Sound Healing Oracle.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Deck on the phone. Amazing. I thought there were cards
that you pull like in the old to row deck days.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, there are cards that you pull, but on the
QR cod on the cards in the design is a
QR code, So you pull the card. It's They're beautiful physically,
they're made with sacred geometry and watercolor and beautiful photos
some of them. And then you put your phone on
the card and you can then it takes you to
the recording of that particular bowl or set of goals.
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Very very cool product. And then we also created an
app called source be Inspired, and the idea also was
that people could have access to this world of sound medicine,
this world of the healing power of music simply have
it in their back pocket, right because most everybody has
some sort of device or mobile phone. So Source be
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Inspired is also an app that has soft launched now.
And very proud about these things, Car because as you know,
you've dedicated your life to this, that music can help
us in ways nothing else can. Yes, it also joy
and excitement and happiness and to fill our hearts and
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souls in ways that nothing else can.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Beautiful Joanna and I thank you so much for being
here on Voice Rising today and for sharing your insights
and your path and your journey and all the transformational
possibility that are out there with the singing bowls. You
inspire us and I would love everybody out there to
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get in touch with their voice and their inner sound
healer and to do the work. So I think it's
Jerlynklast dot com. Right, And oh it's Crystal Cadence. Yeah
I think, yeah, yeah, Okay, Chris, so.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Bring my living library of my career. But Crystal Kaidens
is all about the bulls and the science behind it.
And yeah, Crystalkadence dot com. So Crystal and Caden's being
a musical.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Structure Crystalcadence dot com. So that's how you can connect
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those good things. Yeah, so thank you again, Gerlyn, and
we shall I'm sure have another interview at some point.
Just keep on bringing out so good books and albums.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
Thank your card, Thank you for all you did.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
My buddy.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Said, it is a lot who takes the chair, who
tells absolute birdest time the stunt met.
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Voice Rising today. I am thrilled
to have the talented Jerlyn Glass with us as a
renowned sound healer and author of the transformative book Sacred Vibrations.
Jarlyn has dedicated her life to exploring the healing power
of sound and music. Her work combines ancient wisdom with
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modern techniques, particularly through the use of crystal singing bowls,
and this helps individuals reconnect with their authentic selves. So
join us as we delve into her insights on how
sound can be a profound tool for healing, self discovery,
and community connection. Welcome Jerlyn to the show today.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Thank you, Kara. I'm looking forward to sharing conversations.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yes, it's going to be awesome your book. First of all, congratulations,
I have a copy of it sitting right next to me.
And well, my first question is a question for your heart.
You describe music as love in search of a word.
Can you elaborate on this concept, love in search of
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a word? And how does it resonate with what you're
doing out there in our world.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, that is a quote that's been near and dear
to my heart by Sidney Lanier, and I used it
on my first recital, my first classical content that I
gave when I was nineteen. I think we hold the
frequency of love. That's what I talk about in the book,
that inherent in music when we have pure intention that
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music is love, it helps us to touch places that
we can't touch any other way. I think music really
goes deep into the core of us, deep into our soul,
and love is that vibration that brings healing to our
love is the vibration that brings transformation. And that's been
my experience. And I've been a professional singer since I'm
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nineteen and have sung all around the world, sung on
Broadway and big European concert houses and theaters, and no
matter what language people speak, music is the language of
the heart. And I think that's what's meant for me,
is that it's love. It's a flowing expression of love,
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and that really transforms us.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think you're right, and singers musicians too. There's something
magical that happens when you're singing live. There's a synchronicity
between all the heartbeats in the room, between the breath
of all the people, right. I think that is that
magical presence that people feel and why they go and
experience live music. They go to the opera house, they
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go to a jazz concert, they go to a yoga studio,
because suddenly those people, everybody in the room is one heart,
one love, one breath. Why do you think, Jerlyn, there
seems to be a really a movement happening with sound healing,
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that sound healing is gaining mainstream recognition as a very
effective therapy practice. What's behind that?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think, Kara, because in my own life and in
the lives of many many people that I'm working with
around the world, there is no one size fits all
for medicine for healing. And I think sound and music
is such a personal thing. You know, you might like
listening to Beethoven, somebody else might like listening to Pharrell.
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Someone else might like listening to Frank Sinatra or country music.
It's like, there's so many express of music, and that
was just like a tiny little piece of all that's possible.
Music is really something that can be a balm. Music
is something that can really soothe our soul. You know
that old quote that said music soothes the savage beast
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or the savage breast, Like music has the ability to
unite us, music has the ability to calm us. Music
has the ability to bring us home. And I think
in a world today where there's so much chaos and
violence and stress and pain and loss and despair and
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depression and anxiety. I could go on and on and on.
I think that music is something that truly is available
to everybody and it doesn't really have a side effect.
So I think that, you know, I'm really honored to
be involved in this in this profession now, and I
was honored to speak in Washington, d C. Last year
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for a big conference called Music is Medicine. And you know,
music is being used to help Parkinson's patients, cancer patients,
dementia patients, anxiety, depressions, veterans, hospice, it's being used during pregnancy.
Music can be used in any situation in our lives,
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and it's incredibly powerful.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And do you think that with sound healing if I'm
thinking of maybe the crystal balls or harp music, that
a lot of it is a deep flow and doesn't
always have the set tempo or pattern I mean, I mean,
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of course there's a set patterning, but I'm just wondering,
because what you're saying could be it could apply to classical,
it could apply to country that we find great comfort
in many genres of music, but the sound healing genre
for Tibetan singing bowls, crystal singing bowls, framed drum. It's
really on the rise. And is that because there's a
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place where there's just no words. It's just you can
sense more the energy in the room and then work
with the energy. If the energy is slowing down, the
musician can also work with that is not as fixed
as let's say a twelve bar blues or a thirty
two bar you know, jazz standard.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, this is great, and this is so great
to store car. I remember as a young singer, I
was actually living in Berlin at the time that Berlin
was still divided, and I remember going to hear Herbert
Fontari and the great great conductor conductor Berlin Philharmonic, and
he played Missus Solemnis of Beethoven, and I just remember
when he walked out on that stage that you could
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hear a pin drop in that room, and that music,
just as you were saying earlier, held the audience in
such a space. Now, of course there's besides the synthem
the section, the orchestra section, there's for soloists, and there's
text to it. What you just asked about, crystal singing bulls,
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frame drum, the Tibetan or Himalayan singing bowls. What I've
experienced is when I first heard those instruments, it was
as if my mind just went, WHOA, this is music.
This is so beautiful. But it's unlike anything i'd ever
heard before, you know, And being a singer musician, I'd
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heard just about most of all the instruments that exist,
but I had never heard that. And what happened, Carr
is that it's stilled my mind. So in that moment,
my mind focused on the exquisiteness of the sound, and
I dropped deep inside and I had this sense of
being connected to all that is. I had the sense
of that sound being something so ancient that the very
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cells of me knew. So, yes, there is something when
we're working with sound and sound as medicine, sound as
a healing modality, there is something very very powerful about
just these sounds. And for me as a musician, all
use particular intervals, particular sequences that create a structure. For
people with the frame drum, that can be a rhythmic
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thing that helps to end train. But I think the
main thing your mind becomes still and you're able to
access your deep inner wisdom, your deep place of love.
As we already mentioned, and your deep place of a
trust in something bigger. So whether we want to call
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it the divine or God, or higher consciousness or elevation,
however you want to name it, these kinds of sounds
and the exquisite purity, for example, of the courts, and
the courts I found because I used to work with
the himal Antibetan singing bows, and I'd use those before
every performance. I would warm myself up, I'd put one
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of them on my belly, and i'd tone to it
before i'd go out on stage. But when I heard
the Crystal Alchemy singing bowls, it was different, Kara. And
there's something about them that our bodies are course like
in structure, so we have course like structure bones in
our blood. And I was able to receive those bowls
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in a way, those sounds, in a way that I
had never received anything else. And what as I walked
through my own grief, as I've worked with cancer patients,
as I've worked with hospice or veterans, it's the same
thing I see unified everywhere, that people drop into that
place of stillness and they land in the essence of
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who they are. They land in the deep trust of
themselves and something really loving and benevolent. That's been what
my experience in what I have shared and experienced with
others around the world.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Let's listen to these beautiful the awakening track, Awakening Visions
is something that you sent over and we can listen
in and our listeners can get an idea for your work,
which is very vast like you, like you said, you know,
I've heard meditations, I've heard different songs and different you
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have different audio tracks, but this one you sent in
Awakening Visions. Do you want to share something about the
track before we jump in?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Sure, it's in Grammy consideration. And it was something that
I had a vision about, an awakening vision though that
I had a vision about creating. It's the whole album.
It's ninety one minutes, I think, and it's based on
different versions of the pentatonic scale. And perhaps you know
this that in two thousand and eight in the north
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of Germany they found these little birdbone flutes and the
you know, said that they could be from between forty
to sixty thousand years ago, and some of them were
tuned to the pentatonic scale. So it's not the pentatonic
scale in music doesn't just go back to the time
of Pythagoras. It's something and there's a wonderful expression of
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Bobby McPherrin speaking at a science festival where he demonstrates
that wherever he goes in the world, people know this
pattern of notes. So what I did was we took
different pentatonic scales and different keys, and I worked with
a fabulous musician, Chris Shohler, who creates soundscapes, and we
made half of the album have these soundscapes. So again,
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the pentatonic scale of the crystal singing bowls all mixed
with different alchemies and Chris created soundscapes around them, so
they had different vocals, different instruments. And then the second
half of the album has two spoken guided meditations to
educate a little bit about what we're doing with sound
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and the importance of the pentatonic scale. And then there's
solo bull tracks. So what you're playing now is something
that I did with Chris, So it's got the soundscapes
in it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Beautiful. Let's listen in Awakening Visions Darling Glass.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Cont in computt.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, gorgeous. You were listening to Awakening Visions by Jerlyn Glass.
He's with me here in studio. Jerylyn creates music design
to elevate your consciousness and awaken your inner potential. That's
a very lovely way I can imagine to slip into sleep,
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or to meditate, or light a candle and drink a tea.
So it's up for a Grammy. Is that what I understood?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's in Grammy consideration. We'll know at the end of
this week.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So yeah, it was very exciting. I feel like this
kind of music is it's it's really important I think
for people to have this to listen to, whether they
listen in the background where they listen as you said,
in a state of meditation. It's for me. I know
that it's part of my daily routine of what I'm
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doing to stay calm and grounded and centered. And you'll
hear in all the album that there's always deep sounding bowls,
there's middle octave centering bowls, and then there's beautiful high
note bowls that helped to expand us. So that particular
track was about really activating and opening the third eye.
(17:36):
So that that's why I'm called Awakens, so that we
have that ability to stay grounded and stable, centered within ourselves,
but at the same time to open to the bigger possibilities,
to the infinite, to more of our own intuition and
ability to see light when we're in a place of darkness,
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or simply to see light in the darkness that exists,
so that you're moving yourself to a more elevated way
of looking at your life and looking at the world.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Were you singing on that track? There was there were vocals?
Was that your voice?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah? And my voice in combination with other voices?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Beautiful, beautiful. So you talk in your book about about
you talk a lot about performing and being also in
Germany for those of you out there that don't know,
I'm sitting in Berlin. So Jolyn and I we didn't
know each other at that time, but we were in
Berlin at the same time before the wall fell. And
I believe you talk in the book about Annetta Warren.
(18:41):
Is that correct about your vocal coach, your teachers? So
what are some of the qualities that you learn through
studying voice and performing that you use now in your
work of sound healing?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Well, she's one hundred and two and if you heard
her saying, you would simply be blown away. So she
sang the voice of Ava Gardner in the MGM musical Showboat,
and she dubbed for Lucille Ball and she had her
own career on Broadway. But I think she taught me
truly a healthy vocalism and how to be natural and
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use your authentic voice, because I think often what I
find in my students is that sometimes we have a
question mark on our back and we're not sure can
we really express like this, can we really open our
human instrument? And I think that's what she gave me,
is this really strong and grounded ability to be myself
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and to trust in that. And you know, when I
was going into the profession at a very young age,
she was like, now you have to be prepared because
you really have to have a very strong gut. You
have to have a gut of iron, because as you
put yourself out in the world, there'll be lots of
acceptances and rejections and you can't take it personally. So
she taught me a lot at a very young age.
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I started studying with her when I was eleven, and
I was the youngest WOW aching at that time. But
I think the most important thing she taught me, which
I bring forward now in my work is a healthy
breast support that's really based up what is called whole
person awareness and really working with your transfers of dominus muscles,
(20:29):
your internal extol oblique opening up the intercostal muscles between
the ribs. So yeah, I just treasure her. And you know,
it's also amazing that she has some kind of partial dementia,
but when you ask her to sing a song, boom,
she remembers every single lyric. And that's also such an
interesting thing to me that music can really help us
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to keep ourselves present in a certain way and can
help Yeah, it can really help our mental capacity.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think one hundred and two big shout out to
her and to Warren out there. I think, Yeah, a
lot of people don't realize that music is a whole
brain endeavor and experience, and people that have experienced also
strokes that they have difficulties speaking and no difficulties singing,
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or like you said, dementia. There are many people that
are struggling with dementia and when they sing, they know
all the lyrics, all the words. So I do have
a joke in my family because I know so many
songs that you know, T for two and two for tea.
I'll always manage to at least get fed because I
will be able to be all these these great songs
(21:49):
or at least, you know, go for a good wallz
or a dance out there. So let's talk to me
a little bit about you also talk about the vibrational signature,
that each and every one of us has a vibrational signature.
How can someone get to know what their signature is,
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or their vocal print or or even it probably goes
much further than that, and how can they strengthen this
unique vibrational essence.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a big that's a big topic.
That's a big focus on what I'm teaching people. So
there's not like one particular thing you can do, but
I think it's to recognize that we are unique. In
all of time, there's one of us, and you know,
we laugh when we hear people imitating no known celebrities,
(22:47):
you know, but each of us has our own vocal sumprint.
So the important thing is to realize that there isn't
anyone else in the world like you, and to accept
that and to love into that and to ground this
sense of Okay, if I'm speaking like this with car,
if I'm hey, you know whatever, I want to make
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sound with my voice. This is my unique signature, and
how do I cultivate that? How do I work with
that essence that is who I truly am. So one
good way is simply to start in the morning, like
when I'm under the shower. I love to go and
(23:33):
just siren up and down. So the sound is starting
below my feet, and I siren up out up through
my central channel, up and out my crown, and I
imagine bringing the light and my sound down back into
my body, having it drop down through the central channel
and release out through the soles of my feet. So
first of all, it's also just recognizing that it's not
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up to us to judge it. It's good if we
can take the guess off our back as I learned
as a young singer, And it's really important that we know, hey,
we were given a particular gift, and it's all the
different things that people are talented at, or people are compassionate,
or they're helpful in this way, or they're a good teacher,
(24:18):
or they're a good engineer, whatever it is. But to
recognize each person is a unique human instrument in this
big orchestra that we call humanity.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is such an important thought.
I always tell people it's our connecting life voice to ourselves.
It helps us stay aligned but also in community to
each other. And it's twenty four to seven giving us feedback,
and so we need to fall in love with the
(24:49):
vibrational signature that gives us feedback, right, because it doesn't
do any good. I have a lot of people that
come to me and they're like, I don't like my
I don't like my voice out like myself. Well, the
first thing is to fall in love with the beauty
of what we are, and then we can work on, yeah,
polishing a little bit, or like you say, you know,
doing sirens. That's a fantastic thing to do in the
(25:11):
shower because all the humidity too, is just really fun.
I tend to do lip you know, the whole lip
sirens with my lip drills and poodle and all these
things in the shower. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think in our world today, because also there's so
much focused with social media on comparison, I think that
also just landing in the truth of who you are
through your sound is important.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
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Speaker 3 (28:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, we had a multi layered vocal experience there in
the break that just shows on how many layers voice
is happening. Talk to us about authenticity. I think we
touched a little bit with vibrational signature sound. But how
is sound healing a way to connect with our authentic self?
(29:04):
And are there any techniques that you can help listeners
who are just starting out on the path of sound
healing that they get a little bit closer to yeah,
to finding their own way, maybe even to play the
instruments or to choose their instruments.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, I mean, I think one thing that's excuse me
important is that no two singing bowls are the same,
and depending upon who I'm playing for, sometimes they play different.
And that's also I think this whole part of what
feels good to you? Do I like four hundred and
(29:44):
thirty two hurts tuning? Do I like music today? Four
forty herts? Do I like five twenty eight hurts? Do
I like a rose Chorts bowl? So it's finding really
that there really is this no one size fits all
and finding what feels good to you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, I think that that is important. You go through
that in the book a little bit. The four thirty
two tuning, So for everybody out there that doesn't know
about music, that's often in how many times the what
would you say? It's vibrating at four hundred and thirty
two times at the A on the what we would
(30:24):
know as the middle part of the piano, right or
four hundred and forty, So it shifts a little bit
the feeling. But it's hard to tell the difference between
a four forty A and a four thirty two A.
It's I would say the four thirty two is a
little bit more mellow. What would you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Say, Yeah, it is, it's a tiny bit lower. Yeah,
this whole thing once again. Sometimes people will come to
me and they'll say, I want to set at four
thirty two hurts, and then I'll play for them bowls
that are tuned and they love those.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I think for for people that want to
share the music in a community, maybe with a grand
piano or an instrument that is tuned to the typical
tuning of four forty I know people that have hung
drums and they've chosen the four thirty two, and it's
often difficult when they come into a community of different
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instruments to then be able to play together. So it's
it's something just to consider, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So when people come to me for a consultation to
put together a bowl set for them, one of the
first things I'll ask them is are you a musician?
Do you want to play with other musicians? And if
you do, then we need to stick with a four
forty pert tuned set in less like in some instances,
certain harmoniums are tuned to four thirty two a wonderful
musician and cimrit Her harmonium is tuned to five twenty eight.
(31:57):
So that's an important for me as a musician because
I don't believe that sound when it's discordant can be
super super helpful. I believe very much because what I
went through in my own life that needed something really coherent.
I needed something that I felt safe, that I could
drop in and feel, you know, pretty deep feelings. So
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that's one of the first questions I'll ask is are
you a musician? And you don't That's the cool thing
about the goals. You don't have to be a musician,
you know, because simply there's a technique of swirling around
the bowl, tapping the bowl, and it's not you know,
it's not like I studied piano for ten years or
violin for fifteen years or whatever. It's not like that.
So that's part of the joy for people is that
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they can play an instrument where I've had students say
to me, Jerrel and I played for a yoga class
and they said, you're incredible. You were like a goddess.
What did I do? You know are people that have
been in situations and played with mainstream musicians and just
were like, wow, I could hold my own place with them.
That's that's the beauty of playing the balls one of
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the parts.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, it's very intuitive, it's it's very intuitive, and I
think the beauty is that you feel the the intent
and the love of the person playing the balls. So
not everybody can play the ball who doesn't want to
stay in that place of love and deep meditation and compassion.
(33:33):
Then it probably, just like any other instrument, is going
to sound like someone's hitting a glass. It'll sound like noise.
It takes sensitive sensitivity, right, But The beauty is, like
you said, different than playing a piano or even a guitar.
Anybody who's tried to play an f court on a
guitar and realizes, wow, I'm gonna need callouses first before
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I even yeah on my fingertips. The beauty is that
you can and you can start even just with one bowl, right,
I mean, you don't. You don't need to buy the
whole set. You could even start with one bowl or
one ball in a shrewd eye box or so it's you.
You can access the like you said, the place of holding.
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You can play alone, and you can play in community exactly.
Let's listen to one more well, let's listen to one
more track. Tell us a little bit about expansion, insightful
rest mm hm.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
So I feel like it's important that expansion.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
No, it's we seem to have a little echo, but
I'm I think Chris has got it taken care of.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay, there was a duet happening car that was really
I feel like for many of us also in this
these times that are agitated, for many of us that
sleep is really really crucial. So this track was really
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about how do we relax deeply and are able to
fall into a peaceful and long, healthy sleep. And yeah,
it's built on the Patonic scale.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Love It, Let's there's an expansion inside Forestatonic scale. Love It.
Let's this is an expansion inside the wrist. Love This's
this an expansion inside the wrist, an expansion inside for.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Expension.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Another gorgeous track, Garline Expansion, Insightful rest For those of
you that are just tuning in off of Deerlin Glasses,
I think it's your most recent album and that was
so restorative.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, so it was interesting in that one I used.
You could hear there was what I call a shimmering sound,
and it was a deep register. So technically, if we
were in a laboratory, you could call that a biniral beat,
because one ear would be isolating one of the sounds
and the other ear isolating the other sound. But in
mid playing live like that, I put two bowls together.
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There's another piece we did called Joy Reboot, which is
a song I wrote the lyrics for and it's based
on the Ninth Symphony of Beethoven, and I start the
piece with that same sort of it's the tapping of
two deep balls that make this kind of shimmer together.
What you heard in that track was really a deep
dive that would bring you into a very deep brainwave state.
(39:24):
So it's helping to really help us again relax at
a very profound level.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Regenerate, Yeah, regenerate, talk to us how these beautiful bulls
in this music or if we're daring enough to start
the practice, and you do have a shop in LA
and do coaching and teaching all over the world, how
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can it help us with releasing physical pain and emotional trauma?
What kind of stories, what kind of kind of events
have your experience when people start to come back to
this deep, relaxing, restorative place.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Oh, my gosh, cars so many beautiful experiences of I
just played live in LA for a veterans event, and
I've been playing for that organization for seven years. And
one of the stories I wrote about in the book
about a sergeant who after a twenty minute sound experience
just stood up and said, I've experienced everything. I've been raped,
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I've seen my friends die, I've been in war, I've
been given every pal known to man. And she said,
I have never ever felt anything like what I felt
from these instruments, And gosh, with cancer patients who had
three different situations where somebody who three different women who
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had each had my sectomies just really exclaimed in one
under and in awe that they felt they were whole again,
that they felt they weren't missing a piece of themselves anymore.
Or a child who was experiencing extreme anxiety in school
and got beyond that, or a Parkinson's patient that stop trembling.
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I've had a number of those that just stop trembling.
But I think for the average person, the sound is something,
and especially what I love to work with, this beat
frequency sound, this shimmering sound. It just brings you deeply,
deeply into yourself. I'd want experience. While I was playing
in Thailand at a well known resort there, a medical
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healing resort, and one of the guests was from South
Africa worked in the computer industry, and afterwards he just
was like, jeralis, what kind of voudoo did you do?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
And they all laugh, and you know, he went further
to say, you know, I have never been able to
quiet my thinking mind. It's just always active, always active,
or else whole. I fall asleep, he said, right, he said,
I wide awake, but my mind was still what happened, right, So,
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I mean, it's just it's a different I've had young people,
you know, who have suddenly had big inspirations because they
got real quiet and suddenly their true authentic voice as
we were talking about earlier, and their creativity rose to
the surface where they could really hear it. I've had
medical doctors who've had physical pains that no pills have
been able to really really alleviate. My back pain is gone,
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my knee pain is gone. So I think this is
really a field. As you asked earlier, how is music
becoming our medicine? How is that really becoming a viable
choice for people? And it's not that I can make
a prescription and say, okay, if I play you this,
see bowl that's an amethyst, you know that's going to
do this that or the other. It's again, what we
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talked about is very individual and it could be I mean, car,
what I find so fascinating, like when I worked through
my own grief. So I lost my nineteen year old
son nine years ago, and as I was working through
my own grief, you know, you would think, okay, it's
a broken heart. We've got to go into the heart
chakra area, and we have to work with the heart. Well,
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the bowl that first opened me up and really really
cracked me wide or open to land and the grief
was not a bowl for the heart. So again it's
important to understand it's not one to one. So if
you had if you have an issue for my in
my case, that was a bowl for the throat chakra.
So it was really about releasing and releasing and vocalizing
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the pain that I couldn't put into words. I was
in tox therapy and I couldn't. I couldn't. The words
alone did not help to move the grief. They put
a band aid on it, right, So I think, yeah,
there's some things that we all are challenged by and
sound can help us really create a safe container that
for me, I was able to drop in and breathe
(44:02):
and feel with that one selenite bull And the alchemy
of selenite has to do with grounded white light, or
has to do with a bridging heaven and earth, And
that changed my whole life. That started me on this
path of Wow. The singing bowls really helped me to
land and feel the grief in a way that I
couldn't and I was keening and groaning and making sounds.
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And then when I got up, after about fifty minutes
of working with one single bowl like that, I washed
my face and I looked in my eyes and there
was light in them. There was joy, the spart of
joy in my eyes. And I was like this, this
is incredible. Something is happening beyond my comprehension. Right and again,
you know, as a singer, all my professional life, I
(44:47):
knew that music had the power to touch us, no
question about that. I had experienced that time and time
again throughout performances. That this was the real deal. This
was grief where no anti depressant would bring my sunback,
and it wouldn't it wouldn't change the fact. And I
needed to be able to deal with the fact. How
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do you deal with or if somebody has a debilitating
illness or as you said, of physical pain, how do
we deal with that? And one thing, working with hospice
here in Los Angeles, one of the hospice doctors it's
just an angel on legs, has said there may not
be a cure for everything, but everyone can heal, So,
(45:29):
in other words, there may not be a cure for
what we are suffering. From but everybody can find this
place of deep peace and a sense of acceptance and healing,
you know, And that's a it's a different way for
me to look at things, like there are times where
I just miss my son insanely, but I understand there's
(45:50):
a bigger picture to our lives, and he's working with
me from wherever he is. He's working with me and
helping me share sound and all kinds of miraculous things.
But I think it's important that we can understand there
is a bigger picture for each of our lives, and
music can play a really crucial part in how we
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accept and how we move forward in our lives with
our challenges.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah. I think the bulls are also so magical because they,
like you said, we are a crystalline structure, and so
when they are in resonance with our body, then that
any kind of stuckness or blockages can just be dissolved
(46:38):
and then our energy is and flow again. It was
you know, yeah, no share.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You know. When I was living in Germany, I had
created a children's foundation called Kids for Kids, and it
was based out of Munich and we were making original
musical theater productions and raising money for a music therapy
program that we started, and one of the girl, she
was sixteen at the time. I was giving her voice
lessons and she had kind of a blockage going up
(47:06):
into her upper range. So I asked her to take
one of the singing bowls and she started to play it,
and she started to make sounds ah a a. She
started to make sounds with the ball her voice and
trained with the ball, and suddenly her whole vocal instrument
opened up, and she remembered a trauma and she shared
(47:27):
with me a memory from her childhood that was she
had totally blocked. So you know, I've come to see
in my own self and in my work that we
may have tucked things away, did a go around with
our energy because they were too big at the time.
And suddenly the sound is going in there, and it's
just gently and lovingly back to how we started. Music
(47:48):
is love. It's lovingly going into those places where as
you said, energy is stock or blocked, and it's gently
dissipating them. It's and training and moving them. And I've
seen that time and time again. It was the contest
was at Sea, which is the parting youth in Germany
(48:10):
playing music you know, and that was a momentous occasion
for me. That was at the very beginning when I
was starting to use the bulls and her whole instrument
just opened up. I had a student at the university
where I was teaching in La that also just said, Jerylyn,
there was like this. I had her play and improvise,
(48:31):
you know, so just use her voice in an improvised manner,
and she said there was such a bitterness, and she
was so surprising to me. She called her parents that
evening and just said something. She just named it bitterness,
and she was a very sweet and bubbly kind of personality.
She said, I've never been in touch with that. It
was an anger and a bitterness that was really deeply
(48:54):
hidden inside me. And as I toned with the bulls,
she shared it it also, so it's just released and
it dissipated. I've watched time and time again, Kara, how
just simple things with a singing bowl can help to
release things that we didn't even know we had stuff down. Yeah,
(49:15):
it's very important, you know, because healing is you know,
we ask ourselves a question, how do we heal? How
do we transform? How do we strengthen our connection with
the divine with God. How do we do that? And
sound of music is is so available to everybody, no
matter what culture, no matter what language, no matter what religion.
And these instruments that are, you know, single toned, but
(49:38):
they've got lots and lots of overtones on them. And
then as a musician, there's lots of ways to structure
them together to make this kind of tapestry that again,
this allows people to close their eyes, relax, deeply, drop
into their subconscious and just breathe and feel things and
(49:59):
they begin to transform and heal. And I experienced it
in my own being because people said to me after
my son died, just you know, you'll never get over it. It's done.
Your life is done. And it was like, oh, my goodness,
that can't carr. That can't be. It can't be. Got
to be a bigger picture to it. And with working
(50:20):
with the Singing Bulls and my voice and all the
musical skills that I cultivated since I'm a professional musician,
it just it changed everything. It's given me a real
safety net and it's given me a real ability that's
becoming more and more science backed of what music can do.
(50:41):
And yet still what's so interesting to me is what
I described hearing Herbert Francari and conductor Beethoven Missus Slemnus
in the Berlin or Philharmonic, was that there is this
element of music that connects human beings to the place
of the ineffable. When you sit and hear a song
(51:02):
or a symphony or whatever it is that really moves you,
you drop into this place of the sublime where there
are no words. And I feel like this is part
of the power and magic of music. Is that what
you were saying about the bulls being single toned with
you know, all these overtones. They drop us down into
a very deep place and there's no words for it.
(51:25):
And healing doesn't necessarily happen with words, you know, healing
happens by breathing and feeling and allowing and accepting and releasing.
We don't necessarily need to talk about those things that
are so profound and so deep.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, I mean, there are moments where words help us,
and there are moments like you say that we're just speechless.
We can't we don't know how to articulate. And I've
been also working with the pre verbal trauma, so trauma
that happens before we even have words words, right, So
I think it's incredibly empowering to know that we have
(52:06):
tools that are gorgeous. I mean gorgeous, right. The singing
bowls are gorgeous. It's not like we're going to suffer,
you know, we have gorgeous tools to accompany us on
the healing journey of creating sound to mind, sound body,
a sound world. We open the show with your new book,
Sacred Vibrations. What would you love readers to take away
(52:30):
from the book? Or of course we want all the
people out there to get a copy and put it
underneath the Christmas tree or in the stockings or wherever
you or birthday presence. But what would you like the
readers to take away from Sacred Vibrations?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Gosh, I think that music really can be a medicine,
and that music and sound used with intention can really
change our lives. And throughout the book, there's intimate stories,
there's science that's running through it. There's what we call
(53:07):
sound r ex's, so there's shared experiences of myself and
different practitioners around the world who have been using the
singing bowls, and then there's a QR code on page
two hundred and thirty three that connects you to downloadable meditations.
So I wanted people to hear, oh, what is five
twenty eighthtz? What does that feel like? How do I
(53:27):
experience that? For forty for thirty two, And then there's
a beautiful twenty minute film that I'm very very proud
of where we where we put a little bit of
the theme of the Ninth Symphony of Beethoven, and that's
been an important it's an important piece, you know, for
humanity about freedom and unity. So I think that people
take away that this is a field that has been
(53:50):
around since the beginning of time and is recirculating, as
you said, and really becoming a very poignant path for
many people now that music can be a modern day
medicine and can really help us. And yeah, as I
shared my story in the book and how that it's
going to help to me. And then we also created
(54:11):
an oracle deck with Hayhouse, the Crystal Sound Healing Oracle,
and that's the first deck of it's kind that you
can put your phone on QR codes and actually hear
the sounds of the bulls. So I'm very proud of that. Yeah,
very cool, very cool, product, the Crystal Sound Healing Oracle.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Deck on the phone. Amazing. I thought there were cards
that you pull like in the old to row deck days.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, there are cards that you pull, but on the
QR cod on the cards in the design is a
QR code, So you pull the card. It's They're beautiful physically,
they're made with sacred geometry and watercolor and beautiful photos
some of them. And then you put your phone on
the card and you can then it takes you to
the recording of that particular bowl or set of goals.
(55:00):
Very very cool product. And then we also created an
app called source be Inspired, and the idea also was
that people could have access to this world of sound medicine,
this world of the healing power of music simply have
it in their back pocket, right because most everybody has
some sort of device or mobile phone. So Source be
(55:22):
Inspired is also an app that has soft launched now.
And very proud about these things, Car because as you know,
you've dedicated your life to this, that music can help
us in ways nothing else can. Yes, it also joy
and excitement and happiness and to fill our hearts and
(55:42):
souls in ways that nothing else can.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Beautiful Joanna and I thank you so much for being
here on Voice Rising today and for sharing your insights
and your path and your journey and all the transformational
possibility that are out there with the singing bowls. You
inspire us and I would love everybody out there to
(56:09):
get in touch with their voice and their inner sound
healer and to do the work. So I think it's
Jerlynklast dot com. Right, And oh it's Crystal Cadence. Yeah
I think, yeah, yeah, Okay, Chris, so.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Bring my living library of my career. But Crystal Kaidens
is all about the bulls and the science behind it.
And yeah, Crystalkadence dot com. So Crystal and Caden's being
a musical.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Structure Crystalcadence dot com. So that's how you can connect
with Jerlyn. Remember to subscribe to Voice Rising and share
this episode with your friends and community, because together we're
going to uplift powerful voices at foster healing, connection and
creativity for this world so that we can all hang
out and be harmony and have vibrant health and all
(57:02):
those good things. Yeah, so thank you again, Gerlyn, and
we shall I'm sure have another interview at some point.
Just keep on bringing out so good books and albums.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
Thank your card, Thank you for all you did.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
My buddy.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Said, it is a lot who takes the chair, who
tells absolute birdest time the stunt met.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
We have the st l
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