May 20, 2025 • 55 mins
Air Date - 19 May 2025
Join Kara Johnstad as she sits down with Debbie Anne Sellwood, author of You Are a Frequency: How Personal Vibration Influences Health, Well-Being, and Development. In this episode, Debbie introduces a revolutionary approach to health and healing that looks beyond the physical body to the energetic blueprint that shapes our existence.
What you’ll discover:
How personal vibrations influence your physical, mental, and emotional health
The power of vibrational essences for deep healing
Raising your vibration to align with your highest potential
How your energy body impacts your experience of life and health
Simple practices to reconnect with your inner frequency and activate transformation
For those who believe in the power of your voice, the healing potential of sound, and the deep magic that exists in everything from a trip to the local market to the energy of an abandoned villa in Tuscany, this conversation is for you.
Debbie will share how understanding our energy systems empowers us to take control of our well-being and helps us align with a deeper sense of purpose. Whether you’re curious about vibrational medicine or exploring the connection between body and spirit, this interview will guide you to greater self-awareness and transformation.
Tune in and join the conversation on raising your vibration and stepping into a new health and spiritual wellness paradigm.
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Join Kara Johnstad as she sits down with Debbie Anne Sellwood, author of You Are a Frequency: How Personal Vibration Influences Health, Well-Being, and Development. In this episode, Debbie introduces a revolutionary approach to health and healing that looks beyond the physical body to the energetic blueprint that shapes our existence.
What you’ll discover:
How personal vibrations influence your physical, mental, and emotional health
The power of vibrational essences for deep healing
Raising your vibration to align with your highest potential
How your energy body impacts your experience of life and health
Simple practices to reconnect with your inner frequency and activate transformation
For those who believe in the power of your voice, the healing potential of sound, and the deep magic that exists in everything from a trip to the local market to the energy of an abandoned villa in Tuscany, this conversation is for you.
Debbie will share how understanding our energy systems empowers us to take control of our well-being and helps us align with a deeper sense of purpose. Whether you’re curious about vibrational medicine or exploring the connection between body and spirit, this interview will guide you to greater self-awareness and transformation.
Tune in and join the conversation on raising your vibration and stepping into a new health and spiritual wellness paradigm.
#DebbieAnneSellwood #VoiceRising #KaraJohnstad #Music #Interviews #Voice
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Voice Rising with Kara Johnstad. Enjoy weekly conversations
with leading luminaries, pioneering visionaries, singers, poets, musicians, and sound
healers as we explore the profound role our voice plays
on the path to self realization and global enlightenment. The
internationally acclaimed singer, composer, author, healer, recording artist, voice expert,
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creator of Voice Your Essence, and founder of the School
of Voice, Kara John's dad uses her extraordinary spiritual gifts
to empower others. Everything in this world vibrates, Everything has
a frequency. A pioneer in the field of voice work
and transformational songwriting, her breakthrough methods are helping thousands of
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people worldwide fine tune their body, mind, spirit system and
unlock the energetic frequencies of limitless creativity, health and abundance.
Share your voice, ask your questions, join in the conversation,
receive life changing positive transformation, and rise together to create
a sound world. And here's your hust Kara Johnstad.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hello everybody, Welcome to another transformative episode of Voice Rising.
I am delighted to be joined by the incredible Debbie
Ann cell Would today. She's the author of You Are
a frequency, how personal vibration influences health, well being, and development.
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And in this enlightening conversation, Debbie's going to share with
us her groundbreaking insights into how our personal frequency shapes
our health and our relationships and overall life experience. Through
her work, Debbie helps us understand how we can consciously
raise our vibration and align with our truer selves, unlocking
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a profound connection to our healing potent. And we're going
to explore the power of vibration energy medicine and how
tuning into our frequencies can change how we live and heal. Debbie,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Thank you, Kara. It's a pleasure to be talking to you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's a pleasure to be talking to you too, and
it's a pleasure to be here with you today. Debbie,
you must be very proud you have a new book out,
a wonderful book. You are Frequency, And for those unfamiliar
with your work, maybe you start sharing a little bit
about what it means to have a personal vibration and
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why having a personal good vibe or a personal vibe
is so important to our well being.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think we mostly we look at ourselves as physical
beings and we cannot see beyond that, but we're actually
comprised more than that. We extend much further than just
the physical being, and we actually have other bodies which
are called which are made of subtle energy, and it's
altogether it's called a subtle anatomy, which might will include
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things like the Charkers as well the Marillians. But our
this subtle anatomy, the status of it, whether it's whether
things are well with these subtle anatomy or whether they're not.
They what it does, it admits a frequency and energy
field which can be scientifically measured so that we can
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see whether we there are irregularities in this field or
whether there's possibly the beginnings of physical illness. It can
be seen in the field before it actually transfers to
the physical So our whole sort of subtle anatomy and
this energy field is really important to look at and
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to be aware that we are actually shaping this by
our thoughts and our emotions, and the more we can
keep them positive and not go down into or drag
behind us sort of like emotions that have been maybe
traumatic or of course as heartbreak. It's very difficult to
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say that we shouldn't carry those with us, but it's
not very helpful or negative thinking. And because they can
affect our well being through this energy field, that's probably it.
In a very short explanation.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, yeah, they are you know people they sometimes say
emotion is energy in motion.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And perhaps perhaps.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We just have to to integrate all these emotional experiences
because we know today that if we do experience a trauma,
it can get larger in the physical body. Right, So
it's not about bypassing what we've exc experience. It's probably
about integrating and transforming what we've experienced so that it
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serves us. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Absolutely? I think it can. If we have difficult childhoods
or conditioning that is detrimental, or these suffered shocks or traumas,
it can affect us, not just obviously emotionally and mentally,
but it can define who we think we are, and
that really is not very helpful. It's very easy to
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say that we can, you know, we have to get
over the difficulties and emotions that have hurt us. But
it's really really in our best interest to somehow to
to perhaps define them in a different way, see them differently,
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come to some peace about them and to be able
to move on as best as one can.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah. Yeah, Often, often these belief systems they are voices.
They are a voice that somebody has given us, whether
it's an abusive father or a teacher who has told
us that we are not smart enough, or I'm just
trying to think of some examples, and we carry these
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so called ideas or belief systems or voices in our head.
I of course, as somebody who works a lot with voice,
I am fascinated about all these layers a voice and
how it affects our bodies. So how do you see
the voice as an essential tool in aligning and raising
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our vibration? Not only not only in understanding the voices
that we've acquired and attached to or identified with as
our own opinions, but also what this vibrational uh instrument
is that we literally have running through our body and
with every breath we're speaking, we're humming, we're singing, we're chanting.
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What's your understanding about the voice?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, at begin with, I think you're it's very true
what you say. We can have beliefs that are not
ons at all, but we don't often recognize that it's
possible that you know, as we mature, it would be
very wise to sort of look at our lives and
our past, our childhood and think, well, is this who
I really am? Or am I living somebody else's belief?
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But of course, you know the if we're not speaking
out and saying our truth, then the pressed emotions will
always find a way to come out anyway, and the
whole subtle anatomy. Maybe your listeners will be aware of
bit about the charter systems. If we have a blockstroke
chap and that's really going to inhibit us, it's going
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to affect other parts of our being as well, or
our well being. So to be in harmony really, to
be the best we can be health wise, emotionally, physically, spiritually,
we have to everything has to be working, and that
means we have to have a voice, has to be
able to speak out our truth. We have to our
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emotions have to be to a certain balance. And when
everything took as much as we can as everything comes
to some sort of balance, and that's when we are
able to be our best. I think really I mentioned
a bit in the book about the facts that also
when we have dysfunctional emotions or the speech that we cannot,
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you know, talk about things, or we are oppressed. Then
any of these things can create blockages and our energy systems.
And what should happen is that life force energy from
the cosmos should be flowing into us. We should. People
would call this prana or chi and it's most important
that that has a good low through our through our
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physical and out of Stu's anatomy. Because explained, if you
have blockages, then this is where ill health and problems
start to occur. So you know, in every way beach
and emotions are thinking, it all has to be as
much as we can to bring it to a high,
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the highest point you possibly can. I'm not sure answered
all your all your question, No, I.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Was, I was thinking that that is so true, and
I think what a lot of people don't realize is
that the ears are the listening, our deep Our ability
to deeply listen is also connected with the fifth chakra
or the throat chakra. And I was, I was, I
was sensing when you were speaking that a lot of
people it takes them a long time to be able
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to speak their deepest truth or needs. But then there's
sometimes in a situation where they manage it, but the
person across from them is not able to receive it,
and then this closes them down again. So what is
your experience with us as a community or as a
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beloved And yeah, with us being able to to hone
into holding space and deeply listening to someone's truth without yeah,
without responding I guess in any way good or bad,
or offering opinions, but just deeply listening. Because my from
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my own experience and from the experience of my clients,
it takes. It takes a lot of hoodspot It takes
a lot of courage to connect with our truth, right
to express our our truth. But if we're not in
a if it's not being received, it's so easy to
shut down again. And so yeah, what is what is
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your experience? I think many people don't realize that listening
is also so important in this scheme of frequency.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Absolutely, I think listening is key. It's very difficult. If
it's a loved one, it's not so so difficult. If
it's not somebody who say we're living with or we love,
or a family member, it's much harder then. But as
you say, the more we listen and get to understand
where they're coming from we can possibly find ways in
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which we can open up places where we can, you know,
plant a seed, or we can express a little bit
of what we what we feel before we go Russian
and sort of like destroy things by speaking our whole truth.
It's not the best because we all want to be
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able to express ourselves well, if we're if everything's functioning well.
It's not true that some people who can't obviously express
themselves because they're suppressed into some way. But the best
possible avenue is to be able to express ourselves. But
it's obviously we at times we have to be tactful.
I think it's it's probably what I'm trying to say.
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We can't just charge in there. That we need to,
as you say, to listen and to find times or
areas where that person is more receptive, or we've we've
touched upon something where they they've opened up and we
can then maybe speak our truth a little bit better.
Then diplomatic must be comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think you said, that's so beautiful, that beautifully that
we are planting seeds, and so these are two extremes.
The one is just to go and throw our truth
out and not realize in which environment we're in that
can actually be very harmful to ourselves and or to
another person right to really sense what the space is.
And the other one is the complete opposite, that people
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are shut down and not able to express their their hearts.
I have a crazy question for you. It's something fun
in between. If you could pick a sound, Debbie, whether
it be voice instrument or a natural sound, as the
vibrational soundtrack for your life, which sound would it be?
And why did you choose this sound?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think I'd be pushed to choose between bird song
and you know, the tricks of a gentle water, because
I think both are quite soothing. Bird well, probably that
the water is very relaxing. Bird song is relaxing. But
also I think when I'm listening, I'm engaged. I'm thinking, oh,
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and it's thinking of it's a different bird to the
different one before, and what are they saying to each other?
But it's also it's just so part of nature that
I feel so good. It's just a little bit. In
the book Their World, Yeah you understand what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, I love that. I mean rivers. Also, they say
the river has a song because it babbles when it
goes over the stones. But I love birds too, and
they seem like a bridge, and I love that they
sing in the light, so whenever it's you know, they
have the courage to sit in the dark before the
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light comes and they're already singing. And I always say,
if our world could do the same thing, because you're
talking about so much about frequency in your book, and
when it's dark in our hearts or in our life,
if we could remember to sing or to use frequency
as a tool to usher in the dawn, then I
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think the world would be a little bit different and right.
So I also love bird songs, so that we are
something in common.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I was going to say that I heard the
other day or read I must have read that the
bird song means that you're safe. And I thought about
that and thought, well, that's very true, because when they
say a storm's coming or something is not quite right,
then you won't the birds won't be singing. It's dead quiet.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, But to talk about the sound when I'm no
good at singing, But you know, if I do sing
to myself or i'm a little bit of chanting, it
just it makes me feel so good in my body.
I can just feel resonates, so you don't have to
be great at singing, you can. It is worth you know,
helping your frequency or lifting your frequency, or playing up
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lifting music and singing along to it as well. Yeah,
it's a double that's a double help, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Do you have any practices that you do during the
day to raise your own vibration. Do you have a
technique or any rituals that you can share with people
that are just starting out on this journey of vibrational wellness?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, I think one of having mentioned nature, I think
this is one of the best things that we can
do to raise our vibration. I think being grateful that
is a trement of just small things. It doesn't have
to be something you know, big, but this taking excuse me,
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the small things in your life and just being grateful
for them. Sorry, I'm just taking a super water. Yeah.
I think being very careful of when as you go
about your day, making yourself aware of the people that
you might interact with, watching your boundaries, I think is
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them probably the best thing to say there that you
don't really want to be with people who are going
to bring you down. Mm. Hmmm mm hmm. And also
just doing we all have busy days, but just doing
things in your day that that gives you a little
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bit of an uplift or a bit of fun. I
also visualize light coming into my body through my crown chakra,
filling my body with light. I think that's a very
powerful thing to do. Just trying to think of any
other things that I do. Obviously some meditation or just
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sitting reflecting, you know, just for even if the time
is difficult, just for just a few minutes and just
coming into yourself, just tuning into yourself and just you know,
being peaceful.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I find it interesting also that to have like a
sonic diet plan.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think that a lot of people don't realize that
all the news and all the information that they're taking
in or they feel that they have to take in,
can really drain their system. If you just watch half
an hour of the news that we really cannot do
anything about. It's it's very hard because our nervous system
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sees it as it's happening in our place, and so
how do you how do you manage that? How do
we manage as a humanity to be aware of different
let's say a crisis or war or climate change or
very important issues, and at the same time that we
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don't get drained and sick and nauseous and angry, because
a lot of these things to make us angry. I mean,
they do make us angry when we see them, you know,
ripping out the trees to create parking lots, or I mean,
we get angry. So how do you balance that for yourself?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think one has to be very discriminating, because, as
you say, it's very difficult when what we hear in
the media, the news. First of all, it's we can't
always be assured that it's that it's true. I that's
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one of the bigg things as well, to be aware
that that is not always so. But obviously one has
compassion for war situations and it makes one feel very helpless,
makes one feel angry probably as well, to know why
these things are happening in our day and age, it
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is probably we would have hoped that we don't have
to do this war thing anymore. But I think the
only thing we can really do is to to send
out hailing, to send out love and light to those
to those situations. And although we're aware and we are.
Maybe we're when we're doing that, we're feeling that we're
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doing something, but it's it's energetic, and then we can
sort of remove ourselves. So I think working energetically with
our thoughts and you know, you know, spending peace of
love is probably one of the the only things that
we can do because we're not able to help in
any other way. But one has to I talked about
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boundaries earlier, and one has to have strong boundaries these days.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, they do have a lot of amazing scientific experiments
going on where prayer circles. I'm thinking about the work
of Lynn McTaggart, for example, where they have a prayer
circle and they're meditating or preying on a certain situation
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in a completely different part of the world, and they
can see with scientific tools that the violence has decreased.
Or I find this, I find this mind bow. I mean,
they even have a science that whenever there's a boxing
match in the middle of a city, that the violence
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increases before and after. And I mean, I'm not for
or against boxing, right, I'm truly not for.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Or against boxing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I everybody has, you know, the right to have their
own sport. I just find it fascinating that when there
is violence, what would you say, violence begets violence and
peace begets peace. I mean, it's fascinating that we can
affect events through our through career, through our thoughts, and
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through our consciousness. I think, yeah, yeah, I think it's
it's very important.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I think that's limit Tagger does. It's such incredible work.
And you know, the more people she has working together,
I would imagine the greater the success. I'm not saying
that we as individuals are not successful in doing something,
but it makes sense that there's a lot more people
that they're going to have a bigger effect. But I
think if you can be part of I know, I'm
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part of a group that's usually on about this time
in the evening where we spend fifteen minutes. We're not
connected in any way other than energetic and spending out
a peace to the world or to individuals that we
might we might know of that need our help. So
being part of some group is I think helpful because
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it makes a It gives you a sort of a
foundation to work growth, not just your own. You're working,
you know, you're working with others. You can often quite
you know, after a period of time you can quite
often sense that they're they're they're there, and they're that
sort of energy as well. So I think this is
a she does great work, and this is an example
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if we can do it as part of a group
as well. It's helpful.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Always sense that that sometimes when we're alone, it's just
one of us, and it seems like when two people
are on the same wavelength, it's almost as if it
becomes three, and when three people are on the same wavelength,
we sense it becomes six. Right energetically, there's something very
beautiful about that. You were talking about releasing emotional baggage.
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So what are some of the ways that you've used
or you recommend for people to be able to integrate
their emotional baggage or release or emotional baggage. I so
much love the word integration because I have the feeling
that sometimes we have to honor our stories again with
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the you know, we need to we need to release,
but with a gratitude and honoring to say, Okay, this
is it's not something bad that I'm getting rid of,
this is my journey, this is what I've gone through,
this is who I am, right and that gives us
this resilience and this presence and this light. So what
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is your experience in in releasing trauma or emotional baggage
coming into a place of forgiveness for things that seem
to be unforgivable.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Absolutely well, I'm a practitioner of flower essences, and for
anybody listening who's not aware of what flower essence is,
a flower escence is taken orally it's made from the
energies of plants or flowers, or even crystals or even
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the energy from a sacred place, a special place. The
energy is taken and the energy is transferred into a bowl.
They would say, you were you had a flower or
a sacred place, you would have a bowl there and
the energy would be transferred into that bowl. And then
the flowescences are bottled in up into smaller bottles with
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some sort of preservative such as vodka or brand a
small amount and more water obviously. So there's many hundreds
and thousands of essences really from different producers across the world,
and I all this is the way I do things.
I mean, I'm also an astrologer, which I help people
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as well work through different sort of emotions that might
arise during a consultation that flowescences are very good at
helping one to in whichever way it is appropriate to
resolve maybe an issue. And as you say, it's not
always easy to let it go. And sometimes I think
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we find even if we think we've resolved something, sometimes
that you know, years down the line there's something else
to come up and you think, oh, well, I thought
I'd dealt with that. So there's always little bits of
tweaks that can be helped. But mostly I am very
much myself. I would the first go to would be
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to go to take flower essences, to mix myself a
sort of tailor made both as I would do clients
for various different essences to help an issue. I think
also what's they're talking about emotions? I think one of
the best things also is that if we do have
an issue that it can sometimes it can affect. It
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might have come down from other generations. So what is
a good thing to do if we are able, is
to heal the bloodline, to work on resolving those issues
so that the next generations are not burdened by that
sort of baggage. We can you know, change the behaviors
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of future generations. Often meet people who have maybe decided
to be chosen to be the chosen themselves to work
on issues that other members in their family, previous members
in their family, maybe the mother, the father, grandparents, have
not done so for whatever reasons, and they've decided that
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they need to be the cycle breaker, and that the
one who is going to refuse to carried debilitating emotions
into any further than that, and because otherwise it sort
of can hamper one living one's life as one should
do to the fall. So I think as it's sort
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of worth mentioning that that's happening, it's a good idea
to attend to something like this so that we don't
sort of like pass that on to other generations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think it's very beautiful that you're talking about the lineage,
because it also releases us from feeling that everything is
our own faulty or everything right. Something is when we
can say, okay, this pattern keeps on reappearing. But if
one can say, oh I inherited it. It's something that's
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it's from the lineage, and now I can solve it,
or I can integrate it, or I can release it.
It's very different energetically than we say, oh I can't
believe I can never figure this out and I you
know I I II. Instead of saying, wow, this has
been given to me as let's say, a gift and
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a curse. How can I work with it that brings
us a certain sense of freedom? Don't you think?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think so? I think so. I mean this is
another example when you say you know it's it's not
just ours, it comes from other generations. Is energy, m h.
And it just goes back to everything is energy for
emotions and even if they're coming from the past, they
are an energy that has come from the past to
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as we have to do with it as best we can.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, DeBie, we're going to take a very very short
station break and for everybody out there, gravity, raise your
vibration and we're going to be back with more of
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Welcome back, Debbie, Thank you, Conrah. So I am curious
you were talking about flower essences. Where was the turning point,
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Debbie for you in your life that led you to
explore vibrational wellness. What were you going through or what
brought you to the understanding that it's all about frequency,
It's all about vibration.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I first encountered of flower essences when my children were young,
and they're mature now with their own children, but when
they were say, teenagers, and I had a pretty enlightened
mother who was a spiritual healer herself, and she was
very interested in health, and she introduced me then to
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the Bachelorower essences, and I use them with my my
children during those years, and obviously even now, if I say,
my grandchildren might need something occasionally. So that was probably
the first time I encountered something like this that I've
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been I am also, as I mentioned, an astrologer, and
I work with people's energies because I'm working with their
emotions and I'm working with their thoughts and also and
my understanding is the planets are energies as well, conscious
energies that also transmit frequencies to us and influence that
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in some way. So obviously that sort of started my understanding.
That started me thinking about energy, and I think it's
done from that sort of understanding about, well, if planets
are energy, then everything must be energy. I decided to
study flower essences because I wanted to have another tool
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to be able to help my astrology clients. When I
was when it's safe, for example, if somebody is going
through a bereatment or something or a breakup or something
like that, well obviously we can talk about various things
and I can guide them through the strology, but there's
nothing like having a tool that can actually help their emotions.
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So it's been a sort of or probably or maybe
twenty five years maybe I've been doing this sort of work,
and it's been a sort of slow building it a
slow realization maybe all along that just how powerful we
really are, because we don't understand who we are really,
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but once we do, we have far more power than
we think we are. We have far more power to
be able to visualize ourselves rather than just as a
physical body, but to be able to input into the
the sort of the subtle element as well, and to
be able to visualize good health, and to be empowered
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to do more than we really think we were capable
of doing. Oh has that answered it? Really?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, of course. And and do you remember it maybe
a story of a client where you just felt there's
a huge shift because they were using the flower essences
or understanding more about their frequency. Do you remember a
transformative story where something radically shifted in someone's life by change.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, I think I've had so many of that that
it's difficult now to remember anyone particularly. It's sometimes it's
such a slow thing with flower essences. People that make
them take a sort of like a questionnaires pass or
whatever thought about that person then prescribed in the essences,
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and they may come back and say, well, not much
has happens. I don't really feel anything. And then I
go through my notes and I say what about this
and they say, oh, yes, I don't have that anymore,
or I'll say something else and then they look at
me and they get it. It's all happened. And it's
often to some people it happens so gradually that they
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don't remember how bad things work for them in the
first place. For other people it can be a bit
more dramatic and then they notice it. But it's quite
often that the person doesn't even even though they've moved
on immeasurably. They don't often so they talk about it
that they just sort of in awe. They just think, oh, wow, yes,
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I've got it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Kind of like a tree grows, right, they're so strongly
rooted and beautiful, but they grow very slowly and suddenly
you look or a plant or the garden, right, and
the suddenly you look and you're like, wow, in March,
that was just a little seed, and here we are
in August, and I actually, I think that is the
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best way to heal personally. I have had some well
some horrific experiences where in group processes where which I
don't go to very often, but I also have clients
sometimes where things are just broken open so fast that
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they're re traumatized. And I do think that, you know,
I was thinking when you said the bach essences the
I was thinking of the rescue drops that I also
used as a mother with my my girl, and just
thinking that it's okay that the healing similar similar to well, well,
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when we when we cut ourselves and we have a scab,
it takes time. If we pick at it all the time,
it's not good to heal. So sometimes it's just very
wise to allow things to go slowly. I mean to
we don't we don't have to have a huge aha, right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We don't. I totally agree with that. And I think
what we are such complex beings also because if we
think about it, and if we are more than just
a physical body, we are living on different layers emotionally
and mentally, we are sort of like multi dimensional energy beings.
But these sometimes these different parts of these different layers,
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they can be almost like an onion you start to
peel the onion away and different layer comes up. It
can take as you say, it can take quite a while,
and it's each each sort of layer can being can
bring more more trauma. But it's the best way is
to go slowly so that you eventually get to the bottom,
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you bet, the crux of the problem. That often takes
a while. We are very complex people, really.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Well, like you said, if it's not only our life,
I mean, we have our experiences and our stories in
our childhood. We also have the lineage of the ancestors.
We have our environment, right, so we at least I
know you were talking about that before that if we're
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around certain certain people can bring us down or can
make us feel unwell. But it's also certain environments. If
a house is really dirty and dusty, or if we
have yeah, or maybe we're not meant to be in
the desert. Our body likes to have those birds, songs
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and rivers, and suddenly we're in the middle of barren
landscape and there's no birds. We feel, we feel lot,
we don't feel well right, and everyone says, get on
with it. But the truth is that our being knows
how to create harmony. I did hear an interesting thing
that would be interesting for you maybe is that there
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are less there's less bird song the higher you go
to the north, So the there's more sound, the more
light there is on the equator. You have this crazy
you know, the jungle wild sounds and the higher you
go to the north. Now, we probably have a lot
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of bird song in the Nordic countries when it's so
light in the summer, but in the wintertime it would
be it would be an interesting study because that I've
read that many times that the there's more sound frequency
where there's more light frequency, that sound is connected with
light of the animals. Right, we can explore that, right,
(40:55):
we're researchers. We can explore that, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yield whether it's sounds or crystals, essences, this whole There's
so much to learn here, and it's an exciting time
we're living in because these are all sort of like
future type treatments help our energetic body, and they're really
spot on time because this is I think we will
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we are moving into that sort of world now where
everything's going to be or more interest in energy or
our understanding of just what energy is and how we
are energy beings and the frequency and vibration. We're really
moving into this now.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, I mean the crystals and the stones can hold
energy from the earth, but we also can program our
own thoughts or vibrations or frequencies into the crystals. So
what is your experience doing that or have you have
you done that where you carry right crystals and you
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program them with with an intention?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Absolutely, intention is everything. I think intent, whether we use
a crystal or we just have that thought process in
our mind, intention is absolutely key. If we have the
intention that we're going to be better, or we're going
to heal from something, or we're going to deal with
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an issue, intent, the feeling of intention behind it, that
energy in that intention is absolutely very very powerful.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, what brought you, Debbie to write this book? You're
you're coming from flower Essences and yet you wrote a
book and it's called Let's let's everybody out there. You
should remember the title, You are a frequency? How personal
vibration influences health, well being in developed development? What what
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drew you to write another book? This is your second book,
I believe correct.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yes, yes, I think it's I felt that I wanted
to empower people. I wanted them, it's they're interested. I
wanted them to understand more about themselves because I find
it quite fascinating. So I hope, and my hope is
that others will too to find that we are just
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so much more than we actually think we are. So
it's pretty much wanting to empower people with that knowledge,
particularly as I say, at this time, we're at the time,
we're going through a very difficult time as the humanity
at the moment, but it will improve, I know, I'm sure,
and we're going into quite exciting time and it's all
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of these things. Knowing how a little bit more about
yourself as an energy being is going to be quite important,
I think, to deal with the world that we're going into. Yeah,
that's the reason why I felt it would be useful.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
What do you think is the biggest misconception that people
have about vibrational wellness or about frequency medicine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, I think people generally people are we have we
are raised in a culture which instills within us a
belief that we pay no part of creating illness. So
straight away, I think the thought of self help it
can be quite foreign to to some people because they
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may think. For many people they may think that medical
intervention or a pharmaceutical drug will fix the problems. But
I believe it's more important to look behind this and
appreciate maybe are beliefs, or attitudes of feelings, or a
lifestyle may be an issue behind this. A lot of
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people are not really on that page of self help themselves.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of the I mean, so pharmaceuticals
can help in certain moments, but they can also harm
with many side effects, and so.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
It can be very tricky.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I think it's a wonderful thing. I actually am very
connected to the righte frequencies and frequency medicine. Yeah, and
that's in my in my path. Flower essences have been amazing.
As a singer, I always say to people I used
to put a certain essence I mean, I love roses
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also on my wrists, so that when I would lift
my hands to the microphone in front of these big audiences,
I would always have a certain smell that reminded me
a certain scent. I guess you would say, that's just
made me feel so at home, and you know it
would it would be a very lovely contrast to the
(46:07):
jazz clubs of Berlin, where there might have been back
in the day smoke or you know, other uncomfortable whiskey
and I can. I would lift my hands up and
there I would be in a flower garden and it
was it was lovely. It was a little trick that
I had. That was one of my tricks with working
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with the vibrational wellness or with with essences. I don't
use any kind of uh, you know, perfumes that are
not absolutely natural. So everything has to be incredibly natural.
But we know the power of tea. This is also
frequency medicine, right, plant medicine. We know the power that
that time can help us, or sage can help us
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with if we have a cold, or or you know,
all these beautiful things. We know the power of spices, right,
cinnamon and and turmeric and garlic, and these are all frequencies.
And so I think people have forgotten the wisdom of
the planet Earth and of the the crystals and the stones.
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They've they've they've been disconnected from this wisdom that we carry.
Have you have you always? Have you always lived with
your I mean, have you always lived like in the
countryside in a house or do you live in the city.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
No, I've always lived pretty much in the countryside wherein
is now is very countryside and the deer deer come
in the garden and wow. Yes, so the last night
there was a little baby deer with his mom. So
it's really a joy. That raised my very brain to
see that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, but one thing, sorry, no, I was just gonna say,
I think that is so important, and I many many
people don't have that anymore because they are living in
big cities and their feet are walking on sidewalks as
they grab their cafe latte, right, and they don't have
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that ability to walk out and just see a mama
dear with her baby in their garden. I mean, of
course that raises your frequency. How wonderful is that.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, people are very disconnected, aren't they, which is quite
sad from nature. Yeah, it's so important for me to
see the color of the plants and the flowers, and
you know, to watch the trees and as you talked
about earlier than quickly they've come forth now into early spring.
It's just so important. I guess you know. That really
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helps me. I'm grateful for it, and that's mention is
one of the things I feel that is good to
raise our vibration. Just so important to me, but I
realized that some people it's not a reality that they
can do that badly.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Well, what has helped me a lot, even though I
do live in a I do live in a city,
but I live in a part of the city where
there's a lot of forests and lakes. So I'm grateful
for that. But what helped me a lot is to
again leave my small circle of me. And when I
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started looking at the trees, I started seeing a beautiful,
strong tree with a broken limb, but the rest of
the tree was in full bloom. And I realized that
that is that sometimes we don't need to attach to
the broken part. We can start looking at the bigger picture.
And so when I started looking at nature, I understood cycles,
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I understood rest, I understood that in my profession as
a singer, you know, the wintertime, the Christmas time was
always a the pushing time of huge events and huge
galas and huge everything. And I had to come back
to the place to say that the wintertime is the
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RESTful time and to start, you know, understanding that if
we work with nature, if we understand nature, we can
stay healthy more easily. That was my big aha. And
when I work with clients too. I sometimes have them
look at you know, understand, oh look at the tree.
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The bark is scratchy, and yet it also protects it,
or the or the A lot of women that I
work with, they have problems being with boundaries, or they
have problems not being nice, and then I take them
to the rose and say, well, look at this beautiful rose.
She also has thorns. It doesn't mean that she's she's
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poking everybody that walks by, but it does mean that
if you treat her badly, she's allowed to use once
in a while her thorn. Right, And so we can
learn from nature like this. We can learn that that
that nature is not only only pretty, it also has
different parts that protect the nature. And we also need
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these parts in ourselves. Right we will.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Beautiful nature is a healer the way it is right.
If we can get into nature, even if it's only
maybe at the weekend, it's very beneficial. I think.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, So, Debbie, if if as we wrap it up,
if the listeners were to take away from this conversation
today or when they read your book, everybody out there
go buy Debbie's book if they're gonna they I'm stuttering now,
if if there was one takeaway, what would you like
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that to be? What what would you like people to
take with them?
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I think to realize that we're more than we actually are,
and to realize that we can do more rather than
be passive. We can do more, especially in relation to
our well being, our health, or our empowerment. I think
one of the things we haven't mentioned, but is that
to be quiet and to listen to that little voice within.
(52:26):
I write a bo in the book. I call it
our higher self or our soul, but it doesn't have
to be Some people don't like that. It can be whatever.
But I do truly believe that there's a part of
us that really knows what is in our best interest.
And quite often this connection with that part and our
physical self is a little bit rusty because we haven't
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always had the time to cultivate it. But I think,
you know, having quiet moments and listening, be at peace
and listen to what's really in your best interest, and
to be able to decipher those messages maybe and follow
that interest, and just to just to be a little
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bit more open maybe to that sort of side of things.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I love that that's the inner voice work. Whether we
call it higher self or whether we call it divine
guidance or whether we call it our inner voice. We're
back to this balance between expression, which is important, and
also tuning in to our essence and work with ower essences.
But it's also connected to our own essence, right, our
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own vibrational essence. So I thank you. I thank you
Debbie for sharing your wisdom and your insights on frequencies
and your vibrational work that you do your workers a
beautiful reminder on how our personal frequency holds the key
to profound healing and transformation. That we are responsible, We
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have the ability to respond, so we are responsible for
our own vibrational wellness. And to all of our listeners
out there, thank you so much for tuning in. Go
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It's always lovely to be inspired by so many people
that are using frequency and voice and writing and journaling
and all these things to make the world a better place. Well,
thank you so much, Debbie.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Thank you Kara, you have a beautiful evening. Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hello everybody, Welcome to another transformative episode of Voice Rising.
I am delighted to be joined by the incredible Debbie
Ann cell Would today. She's the author of You Are
a frequency, how personal vibration influences health, well being, and development.
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And in this enlightening conversation, Debbie's going to share with
us her groundbreaking insights into how our personal frequency shapes
our health and our relationships and overall life experience. Through
her work, Debbie helps us understand how we can consciously
raise our vibration and align with our truer selves, unlocking
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a profound connection to our healing potent. And we're going
to explore the power of vibration energy medicine and how
tuning into our frequencies can change how we live and heal. Debbie,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Thank you, Kara. It's a pleasure to be talking to you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's a pleasure to be talking to you too, and
it's a pleasure to be here with you today. Debbie,
you must be very proud you have a new book out,
a wonderful book. You are Frequency, And for those unfamiliar
with your work, maybe you start sharing a little bit
about what it means to have a personal vibration and
(02:41):
why having a personal good vibe or a personal vibe
is so important to our well being.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think we mostly we look at ourselves as physical
beings and we cannot see beyond that, but we're actually
comprised more than that. We extend much further than just
the physical being, and we actually have other bodies which
are called which are made of subtle energy, and it's
altogether it's called a subtle anatomy, which might will include
(03:12):
things like the Charkers as well the Marillians. But our
this subtle anatomy, the status of it, whether it's whether
things are well with these subtle anatomy or whether they're not.
They what it does, it admits a frequency and energy
field which can be scientifically measured so that we can
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see whether we there are irregularities in this field or
whether there's possibly the beginnings of physical illness. It can
be seen in the field before it actually transfers to
the physical So our whole sort of subtle anatomy and
this energy field is really important to look at and
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to be aware that we are actually shaping this by
our thoughts and our emotions, and the more we can
keep them positive and not go down into or drag
behind us sort of like emotions that have been maybe
traumatic or of course as heartbreak. It's very difficult to
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say that we shouldn't carry those with us, but it's
not very helpful or negative thinking. And because they can
affect our well being through this energy field, that's probably it.
In a very short explanation.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, yeah, they are you know people they sometimes say
emotion is energy in motion.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And perhaps perhaps.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We just have to to integrate all these emotional experiences
because we know today that if we do experience a trauma,
it can get larger in the physical body. Right, So
it's not about bypassing what we've exc experience. It's probably
about integrating and transforming what we've experienced so that it
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serves us. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Absolutely? I think it can. If we have difficult childhoods
or conditioning that is detrimental, or these suffered shocks or traumas,
it can affect us, not just obviously emotionally and mentally,
but it can define who we think we are, and
that really is not very helpful. It's very easy to
(05:32):
say that we can, you know, we have to get
over the difficulties and emotions that have hurt us. But
it's really really in our best interest to somehow to
to perhaps define them in a different way, see them differently,
(05:53):
come to some peace about them and to be able
to move on as best as one can.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah. Yeah, Often, often these belief systems they are voices.
They are a voice that somebody has given us, whether
it's an abusive father or a teacher who has told
us that we are not smart enough, or I'm just
trying to think of some examples, and we carry these
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so called ideas or belief systems or voices in our head.
I of course, as somebody who works a lot with voice,
I am fascinated about all these layers a voice and
how it affects our bodies. So how do you see
the voice as an essential tool in aligning and raising
(06:43):
our vibration? Not only not only in understanding the voices
that we've acquired and attached to or identified with as
our own opinions, but also what this vibrational uh instrument
is that we literally have running through our body and
with every breath we're speaking, we're humming, we're singing, we're chanting.
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What's your understanding about the voice?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, at begin with, I think you're it's very true
what you say. We can have beliefs that are not
ons at all, but we don't often recognize that it's
possible that you know, as we mature, it would be
very wise to sort of look at our lives and
our past, our childhood and think, well, is this who
I really am? Or am I living somebody else's belief?
(07:35):
But of course, you know the if we're not speaking
out and saying our truth, then the pressed emotions will
always find a way to come out anyway, and the
whole subtle anatomy. Maybe your listeners will be aware of
bit about the charter systems. If we have a blockstroke
chap and that's really going to inhibit us, it's going
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to affect other parts of our being as well, or
our well being. So to be in harmony really, to
be the best we can be health wise, emotionally, physically, spiritually,
we have to everything has to be working, and that
means we have to have a voice, has to be
able to speak out our truth. We have to our
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emotions have to be to a certain balance. And when
everything took as much as we can as everything comes
to some sort of balance, and that's when we are
able to be our best. I think really I mentioned
a bit in the book about the facts that also
when we have dysfunctional emotions or the speech that we cannot,
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you know, talk about things, or we are oppressed. Then
any of these things can create blockages and our energy systems.
And what should happen is that life force energy from
the cosmos should be flowing into us. We should. People
would call this prana or chi and it's most important
that that has a good low through our through our
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physical and out of Stu's anatomy. Because explained, if you
have blockages, then this is where ill health and problems
start to occur. So you know, in every way beach
and emotions are thinking, it all has to be as
much as we can to bring it to a high,
(09:31):
the highest point you possibly can. I'm not sure answered
all your all your question, No, I.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Was, I was thinking that that is so true, and
I think what a lot of people don't realize is
that the ears are the listening, our deep Our ability
to deeply listen is also connected with the fifth chakra
or the throat chakra. And I was, I was, I
was sensing when you were speaking that a lot of
people it takes them a long time to be able
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to speak their deepest truth or needs. But then there's
sometimes in a situation where they manage it, but the
person across from them is not able to receive it,
and then this closes them down again. So what is
your experience with us as a community or as a
(10:25):
beloved And yeah, with us being able to to hone
into holding space and deeply listening to someone's truth without yeah,
without responding I guess in any way good or bad,
or offering opinions, but just deeply listening. Because my from
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my own experience and from the experience of my clients,
it takes. It takes a lot of hoodspot It takes
a lot of courage to connect with our truth, right
to express our our truth. But if we're not in
a if it's not being received, it's so easy to
shut down again. And so yeah, what is what is
(11:10):
your experience? I think many people don't realize that listening
is also so important in this scheme of frequency.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Absolutely, I think listening is key. It's very difficult. If
it's a loved one, it's not so so difficult. If
it's not somebody who say we're living with or we love,
or a family member, it's much harder then. But as
you say, the more we listen and get to understand
where they're coming from we can possibly find ways in
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which we can open up places where we can, you know,
plant a seed, or we can express a little bit
of what we what we feel before we go Russian
and sort of like destroy things by speaking our whole truth.
It's not the best because we all want to be
(12:04):
able to express ourselves well, if we're if everything's functioning well.
It's not true that some people who can't obviously express
themselves because they're suppressed into some way. But the best
possible avenue is to be able to express ourselves. But
it's obviously we at times we have to be tactful.
I think it's it's probably what I'm trying to say.
(12:25):
We can't just charge in there. That we need to,
as you say, to listen and to find times or
areas where that person is more receptive, or we've we've
touched upon something where they they've opened up and we
can then maybe speak our truth a little bit better.
Then diplomatic must be comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think you said, that's so beautiful, that beautifully that
we are planting seeds, and so these are two extremes.
The one is just to go and throw our truth
out and not realize in which environment we're in that
can actually be very harmful to ourselves and or to
another person right to really sense what the space is.
And the other one is the complete opposite, that people
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are shut down and not able to express their their hearts.
I have a crazy question for you. It's something fun
in between. If you could pick a sound, Debbie, whether
it be voice instrument or a natural sound, as the
vibrational soundtrack for your life, which sound would it be?
And why did you choose this sound?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think I'd be pushed to choose between bird song
and you know, the tricks of a gentle water, because
I think both are quite soothing. Bird well, probably that
the water is very relaxing. Bird song is relaxing. But
also I think when I'm listening, I'm engaged. I'm thinking, oh,
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and it's thinking of it's a different bird to the
different one before, and what are they saying to each other?
But it's also it's just so part of nature that
I feel so good. It's just a little bit. In
the book Their World, Yeah you understand what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, I love that. I mean rivers. Also, they say
the river has a song because it babbles when it
goes over the stones. But I love birds too, and
they seem like a bridge, and I love that they
sing in the light, so whenever it's you know, they
have the courage to sit in the dark before the
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light comes and they're already singing. And I always say,
if our world could do the same thing, because you're
talking about so much about frequency in your book, and
when it's dark in our hearts or in our life,
if we could remember to sing or to use frequency
as a tool to usher in the dawn, then I
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think the world would be a little bit different and right.
So I also love bird songs, so that we are
something in common.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I was going to say that I heard the
other day or read I must have read that the
bird song means that you're safe. And I thought about
that and thought, well, that's very true, because when they
say a storm's coming or something is not quite right,
then you won't the birds won't be singing. It's dead quiet.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, But to talk about the sound when I'm no
good at singing, But you know, if I do sing
to myself or i'm a little bit of chanting, it
just it makes me feel so good in my body.
I can just feel resonates, so you don't have to
be great at singing, you can. It is worth you know,
helping your frequency or lifting your frequency, or playing up
(15:59):
lifting music and singing along to it as well. Yeah,
it's a double that's a double help, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Do you have any practices that you do during the
day to raise your own vibration. Do you have a
technique or any rituals that you can share with people
that are just starting out on this journey of vibrational wellness?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, I think one of having mentioned nature, I think
this is one of the best things that we can
do to raise our vibration. I think being grateful that
is a trement of just small things. It doesn't have
to be something you know, big, but this taking excuse me,
(16:42):
the small things in your life and just being grateful
for them. Sorry, I'm just taking a super water. Yeah.
I think being very careful of when as you go
about your day, making yourself aware of the people that
you might interact with, watching your boundaries, I think is
(17:05):
them probably the best thing to say there that you
don't really want to be with people who are going
to bring you down. Mm. Hmmm mm hmm. And also
just doing we all have busy days, but just doing
things in your day that that gives you a little
(17:26):
bit of an uplift or a bit of fun. I
also visualize light coming into my body through my crown chakra,
filling my body with light. I think that's a very
powerful thing to do. Just trying to think of any
other things that I do. Obviously some meditation or just
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sitting reflecting, you know, just for even if the time
is difficult, just for just a few minutes and just
coming into yourself, just tuning into yourself and just you know,
being peaceful.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I find it interesting also that to have like a
sonic diet plan.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think that a lot of people don't realize that
all the news and all the information that they're taking
in or they feel that they have to take in,
can really drain their system. If you just watch half
an hour of the news that we really cannot do
anything about. It's it's very hard because our nervous system
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sees it as it's happening in our place, and so
how do you how do you manage that? How do
we manage as a humanity to be aware of different
let's say a crisis or war or climate change or
very important issues, and at the same time that we
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don't get drained and sick and nauseous and angry, because
a lot of these things to make us angry. I mean,
they do make us angry when we see them, you know,
ripping out the trees to create parking lots, or I mean,
we get angry. So how do you balance that for yourself?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think one has to be very discriminating, because, as
you say, it's very difficult when what we hear in
the media, the news. First of all, it's we can't
always be assured that it's that it's true. I that's
(19:35):
one of the bigg things as well, to be aware
that that is not always so. But obviously one has
compassion for war situations and it makes one feel very helpless,
makes one feel angry probably as well, to know why
these things are happening in our day and age, it
(19:57):
is probably we would have hoped that we don't have
to do this war thing anymore. But I think the
only thing we can really do is to to send
out hailing, to send out love and light to those
to those situations. And although we're aware and we are.
Maybe we're when we're doing that, we're feeling that we're
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doing something, but it's it's energetic, and then we can
sort of remove ourselves. So I think working energetically with
our thoughts and you know, you know, spending peace of
love is probably one of the the only things that
we can do because we're not able to help in
any other way. But one has to I talked about
(20:42):
boundaries earlier, and one has to have strong boundaries these days.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, they do have a lot of amazing scientific experiments
going on where prayer circles. I'm thinking about the work
of Lynn McTaggart, for example, where they have a prayer
circle and they're meditating or preying on a certain situation
(21:10):
in a completely different part of the world, and they
can see with scientific tools that the violence has decreased.
Or I find this, I find this mind bow. I mean,
they even have a science that whenever there's a boxing
match in the middle of a city, that the violence
(21:33):
increases before and after. And I mean, I'm not for
or against boxing, right, I'm truly not for.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Or against boxing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I everybody has, you know, the right to have their
own sport. I just find it fascinating that when there
is violence, what would you say, violence begets violence and
peace begets peace. I mean, it's fascinating that we can
affect events through our through career, through our thoughts, and
(22:03):
through our consciousness. I think, yeah, yeah, I think it's
it's very important.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I think that's limit Tagger does. It's such incredible work.
And you know, the more people she has working together,
I would imagine the greater the success. I'm not saying
that we as individuals are not successful in doing something,
but it makes sense that there's a lot more people
that they're going to have a bigger effect. But I
think if you can be part of I know, I'm
(22:33):
part of a group that's usually on about this time
in the evening where we spend fifteen minutes. We're not
connected in any way other than energetic and spending out
a peace to the world or to individuals that we
might we might know of that need our help. So
being part of some group is I think helpful because
(22:54):
it makes a It gives you a sort of a
foundation to work growth, not just your own. You're working,
you know, you're working with others. You can often quite
you know, after a period of time you can quite
often sense that they're they're they're there, and they're that
sort of energy as well. So I think this is
a she does great work, and this is an example
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if we can do it as part of a group
as well. It's helpful.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Always sense that that sometimes when we're alone, it's just
one of us, and it seems like when two people
are on the same wavelength, it's almost as if it
becomes three, and when three people are on the same wavelength,
we sense it becomes six. Right energetically, there's something very
beautiful about that. You were talking about releasing emotional baggage.
(23:41):
So what are some of the ways that you've used
or you recommend for people to be able to integrate
their emotional baggage or release or emotional baggage. I so
much love the word integration because I have the feeling
that sometimes we have to honor our stories again with
(24:02):
the you know, we need to we need to release,
but with a gratitude and honoring to say, Okay, this
is it's not something bad that I'm getting rid of,
this is my journey, this is what I've gone through,
this is who I am, right and that gives us
this resilience and this presence and this light. So what
(24:23):
is your experience in in releasing trauma or emotional baggage
coming into a place of forgiveness for things that seem
to be unforgivable.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Absolutely well, I'm a practitioner of flower essences, and for
anybody listening who's not aware of what flower essence is,
a flower escence is taken orally it's made from the
energies of plants or flowers, or even crystals or even
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the energy from a sacred place, a special place. The
energy is taken and the energy is transferred into a bowl.
They would say, you were you had a flower or
a sacred place, you would have a bowl there and
the energy would be transferred into that bowl. And then
the flowescences are bottled in up into smaller bottles with
(25:19):
some sort of preservative such as vodka or brand a
small amount and more water obviously. So there's many hundreds
and thousands of essences really from different producers across the world,
and I all this is the way I do things.
I mean, I'm also an astrologer, which I help people
(25:40):
as well work through different sort of emotions that might
arise during a consultation that flowescences are very good at
helping one to in whichever way it is appropriate to
resolve maybe an issue. And as you say, it's not
always easy to let it go. And sometimes I think
(26:01):
we find even if we think we've resolved something, sometimes
that you know, years down the line there's something else
to come up and you think, oh, well, I thought
I'd dealt with that. So there's always little bits of
tweaks that can be helped. But mostly I am very
much myself. I would the first go to would be
(26:22):
to go to take flower essences, to mix myself a
sort of tailor made both as I would do clients
for various different essences to help an issue. I think
also what's they're talking about emotions? I think one of
the best things also is that if we do have
an issue that it can sometimes it can affect. It
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might have come down from other generations. So what is
a good thing to do if we are able, is
to heal the bloodline, to work on resolving those issues
so that the next generations are not burdened by that
sort of baggage. We can you know, change the behaviors
(27:06):
of future generations. Often meet people who have maybe decided
to be chosen to be the chosen themselves to work
on issues that other members in their family, previous members
in their family, maybe the mother, the father, grandparents, have
not done so for whatever reasons, and they've decided that
(27:29):
they need to be the cycle breaker, and that the
one who is going to refuse to carried debilitating emotions
into any further than that, and because otherwise it sort
of can hamper one living one's life as one should
do to the fall. So I think as it's sort
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of worth mentioning that that's happening, it's a good idea
to attend to something like this so that we don't
sort of like pass that on to other generations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think it's very beautiful that you're talking about the lineage,
because it also releases us from feeling that everything is
our own faulty or everything right. Something is when we
can say, okay, this pattern keeps on reappearing. But if
one can say, oh I inherited it. It's something that's
(28:22):
it's from the lineage, and now I can solve it,
or I can integrate it, or I can release it.
It's very different energetically than we say, oh I can't
believe I can never figure this out and I you
know I I II. Instead of saying, wow, this has
been given to me as let's say, a gift and
(28:43):
a curse. How can I work with it that brings
us a certain sense of freedom? Don't you think?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think so? I think so. I mean this is
another example when you say you know it's it's not
just ours, it comes from other generations. Is energy, m h.
And it just goes back to everything is energy for
emotions and even if they're coming from the past, they
are an energy that has come from the past to
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as we have to do with it as best we can.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
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Welcome back, Debbie, Thank you, Conrah. So I am curious
you were talking about flower essences. Where was the turning point,
(32:17):
Debbie for you in your life that led you to
explore vibrational wellness. What were you going through or what
brought you to the understanding that it's all about frequency,
It's all about vibration.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I first encountered of flower essences when my children were young,
and they're mature now with their own children, but when
they were say, teenagers, and I had a pretty enlightened
mother who was a spiritual healer herself, and she was
very interested in health, and she introduced me then to
(32:56):
the Bachelorower essences, and I use them with my my
children during those years, and obviously even now, if I say,
my grandchildren might need something occasionally. So that was probably
the first time I encountered something like this that I've
(33:17):
been I am also, as I mentioned, an astrologer, and
I work with people's energies because I'm working with their
emotions and I'm working with their thoughts and also and
my understanding is the planets are energies as well, conscious
energies that also transmit frequencies to us and influence that
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in some way. So obviously that sort of started my understanding.
That started me thinking about energy, and I think it's
done from that sort of understanding about, well, if planets
are energy, then everything must be energy. I decided to
study flower essences because I wanted to have another tool
(34:02):
to be able to help my astrology clients. When I
was when it's safe, for example, if somebody is going
through a bereatment or something or a breakup or something
like that, well obviously we can talk about various things
and I can guide them through the strology, but there's
nothing like having a tool that can actually help their emotions.
(34:23):
So it's been a sort of or probably or maybe
twenty five years maybe I've been doing this sort of work,
and it's been a sort of slow building it a
slow realization maybe all along that just how powerful we
really are, because we don't understand who we are really,
(34:45):
but once we do, we have far more power than
we think we are. We have far more power to
be able to visualize ourselves rather than just as a
physical body, but to be able to input into the
the sort of the subtle element as well, and to
be able to visualize good health, and to be empowered
(35:07):
to do more than we really think we were capable
of doing. Oh has that answered it? Really?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, of course. And and do you remember it maybe
a story of a client where you just felt there's
a huge shift because they were using the flower essences
or understanding more about their frequency. Do you remember a
transformative story where something radically shifted in someone's life by change.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, I think I've had so many of that that
it's difficult now to remember anyone particularly. It's sometimes it's
such a slow thing with flower essences. People that make
them take a sort of like a questionnaires pass or
whatever thought about that person then prescribed in the essences,
(36:03):
and they may come back and say, well, not much
has happens. I don't really feel anything. And then I
go through my notes and I say what about this
and they say, oh, yes, I don't have that anymore,
or I'll say something else and then they look at
me and they get it. It's all happened. And it's
often to some people it happens so gradually that they
(36:25):
don't remember how bad things work for them in the
first place. For other people it can be a bit
more dramatic and then they notice it. But it's quite
often that the person doesn't even even though they've moved
on immeasurably. They don't often so they talk about it
that they just sort of in awe. They just think, oh, wow, yes,
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I've got it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Kind of like a tree grows, right, they're so strongly
rooted and beautiful, but they grow very slowly and suddenly
you look or a plant or the garden, right, and
the suddenly you look and you're like, wow, in March,
that was just a little seed, and here we are
in August, and I actually, I think that is the
(37:15):
best way to heal personally. I have had some well
some horrific experiences where in group processes where which I
don't go to very often, but I also have clients
sometimes where things are just broken open so fast that
(37:35):
they're re traumatized. And I do think that, you know,
I was thinking when you said the bach essences the
I was thinking of the rescue drops that I also
used as a mother with my my girl, and just
thinking that it's okay that the healing similar similar to well, well,
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when we when we cut ourselves and we have a scab,
it takes time. If we pick at it all the time,
it's not good to heal. So sometimes it's just very
wise to allow things to go slowly. I mean to
we don't we don't have to have a huge aha, right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We don't. I totally agree with that. And I think
what we are such complex beings also because if we
think about it, and if we are more than just
a physical body, we are living on different layers emotionally
and mentally, we are sort of like multi dimensional energy beings.
But these sometimes these different parts of these different layers,
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they can be almost like an onion you start to
peel the onion away and different layer comes up. It
can take as you say, it can take quite a while,
and it's each each sort of layer can being can
bring more more trauma. But it's the best way is
to go slowly so that you eventually get to the bottom,
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you bet, the crux of the problem. That often takes
a while. We are very complex people, really.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Well, like you said, if it's not only our life,
I mean, we have our experiences and our stories in
our childhood. We also have the lineage of the ancestors.
We have our environment, right, so we at least I
know you were talking about that before that if we're
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around certain certain people can bring us down or can
make us feel unwell. But it's also certain environments. If
a house is really dirty and dusty, or if we
have yeah, or maybe we're not meant to be in
the desert. Our body likes to have those birds, songs
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and rivers, and suddenly we're in the middle of barren
landscape and there's no birds. We feel, we feel lot,
we don't feel well right, and everyone says, get on
with it. But the truth is that our being knows
how to create harmony. I did hear an interesting thing
that would be interesting for you maybe is that there
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are less there's less bird song the higher you go
to the north, So the there's more sound, the more
light there is on the equator. You have this crazy
you know, the jungle wild sounds and the higher you
go to the north. Now, we probably have a lot
(40:33):
of bird song in the Nordic countries when it's so
light in the summer, but in the wintertime it would
be it would be an interesting study because that I've
read that many times that the there's more sound frequency
where there's more light frequency, that sound is connected with
light of the animals. Right, we can explore that, right,
(40:55):
we're researchers. We can explore that, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yield whether it's sounds or crystals, essences, this whole There's
so much to learn here, and it's an exciting time
we're living in because these are all sort of like
future type treatments help our energetic body, and they're really
spot on time because this is I think we will
(41:23):
we are moving into that sort of world now where
everything's going to be or more interest in energy or
our understanding of just what energy is and how we
are energy beings and the frequency and vibration. We're really
moving into this now.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, I mean the crystals and the stones can hold
energy from the earth, but we also can program our
own thoughts or vibrations or frequencies into the crystals. So
what is your experience doing that or have you have
you done that where you carry right crystals and you
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program them with with an intention?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Absolutely, intention is everything. I think intent, whether we use
a crystal or we just have that thought process in
our mind, intention is absolutely key. If we have the
intention that we're going to be better, or we're going
to heal from something, or we're going to deal with
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an issue, intent, the feeling of intention behind it, that
energy in that intention is absolutely very very powerful.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, what brought you, Debbie to write this book? You're
you're coming from flower Essences and yet you wrote a
book and it's called Let's let's everybody out there. You
should remember the title, You are a frequency? How personal
vibration influences health, well being in developed development? What what
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drew you to write another book? This is your second book,
I believe correct.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yes, yes, I think it's I felt that I wanted
to empower people. I wanted them, it's they're interested. I
wanted them to understand more about themselves because I find
it quite fascinating. So I hope, and my hope is
that others will too to find that we are just
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so much more than we actually think we are. So
it's pretty much wanting to empower people with that knowledge,
particularly as I say, at this time, we're at the time,
we're going through a very difficult time as the humanity
at the moment, but it will improve, I know, I'm sure,
and we're going into quite exciting time and it's all
(43:50):
of these things. Knowing how a little bit more about
yourself as an energy being is going to be quite important,
I think, to deal with the world that we're going into. Yeah,
that's the reason why I felt it would be useful.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
What do you think is the biggest misconception that people
have about vibrational wellness or about frequency medicine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, I think people generally people are we have we
are raised in a culture which instills within us a
belief that we pay no part of creating illness. So
straight away, I think the thought of self help it
can be quite foreign to to some people because they
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may think. For many people they may think that medical
intervention or a pharmaceutical drug will fix the problems. But
I believe it's more important to look behind this and
appreciate maybe are beliefs, or attitudes of feelings, or a
lifestyle may be an issue behind this. A lot of
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people are not really on that page of self help themselves.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of the I mean, so pharmaceuticals
can help in certain moments, but they can also harm
with many side effects, and so.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
It can be very tricky.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I think it's a wonderful thing. I actually am very
connected to the righte frequencies and frequency medicine. Yeah, and
that's in my in my path. Flower essences have been amazing.
As a singer, I always say to people I used
to put a certain essence I mean, I love roses
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also on my wrists, so that when I would lift
my hands to the microphone in front of these big audiences,
I would always have a certain smell that reminded me
a certain scent. I guess you would say, that's just
made me feel so at home, and you know it
would it would be a very lovely contrast to the
(46:07):
jazz clubs of Berlin, where there might have been back
in the day smoke or you know, other uncomfortable whiskey
and I can. I would lift my hands up and
there I would be in a flower garden and it
was it was lovely. It was a little trick that
I had. That was one of my tricks with working
(46:29):
with the vibrational wellness or with with essences. I don't
use any kind of uh, you know, perfumes that are
not absolutely natural. So everything has to be incredibly natural.
But we know the power of tea. This is also
frequency medicine, right, plant medicine. We know the power that
that time can help us, or sage can help us
(46:51):
with if we have a cold, or or you know,
all these beautiful things. We know the power of spices, right,
cinnamon and and turmeric and garlic, and these are all frequencies.
And so I think people have forgotten the wisdom of
the planet Earth and of the the crystals and the stones.
(47:13):
They've they've they've been disconnected from this wisdom that we carry.
Have you have you always? Have you always lived with
your I mean, have you always lived like in the
countryside in a house or do you live in the city.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
No, I've always lived pretty much in the countryside wherein
is now is very countryside and the deer deer come
in the garden and wow. Yes, so the last night
there was a little baby deer with his mom. So
it's really a joy. That raised my very brain to
see that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, but one thing, sorry, no, I was just gonna say,
I think that is so important, and I many many
people don't have that anymore because they are living in
big cities and their feet are walking on sidewalks as
they grab their cafe latte, right, and they don't have
(48:13):
that ability to walk out and just see a mama
dear with her baby in their garden. I mean, of
course that raises your frequency. How wonderful is that.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, people are very disconnected, aren't they, which is quite
sad from nature. Yeah, it's so important for me to
see the color of the plants and the flowers, and
you know, to watch the trees and as you talked
about earlier than quickly they've come forth now into early spring.
It's just so important. I guess you know. That really
(48:48):
helps me. I'm grateful for it, and that's mention is
one of the things I feel that is good to
raise our vibration. Just so important to me, but I
realized that some people it's not a reality that they
can do that badly.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Well, what has helped me a lot, even though I
do live in a I do live in a city,
but I live in a part of the city where
there's a lot of forests and lakes. So I'm grateful
for that. But what helped me a lot is to
again leave my small circle of me. And when I
(49:27):
started looking at the trees, I started seeing a beautiful,
strong tree with a broken limb, but the rest of
the tree was in full bloom. And I realized that
that is that sometimes we don't need to attach to
the broken part. We can start looking at the bigger picture.
And so when I started looking at nature, I understood cycles,
(49:50):
I understood rest, I understood that in my profession as
a singer, you know, the wintertime, the Christmas time was
always a the pushing time of huge events and huge
galas and huge everything. And I had to come back
to the place to say that the wintertime is the
(50:10):
RESTful time and to start, you know, understanding that if
we work with nature, if we understand nature, we can
stay healthy more easily. That was my big aha. And
when I work with clients too. I sometimes have them
look at you know, understand, oh look at the tree.
(50:31):
The bark is scratchy, and yet it also protects it,
or the or the A lot of women that I
work with, they have problems being with boundaries, or they
have problems not being nice, and then I take them
to the rose and say, well, look at this beautiful rose.
She also has thorns. It doesn't mean that she's she's
(50:53):
poking everybody that walks by, but it does mean that
if you treat her badly, she's allowed to use once
in a while her thorn. Right, And so we can
learn from nature like this. We can learn that that
that nature is not only only pretty, it also has
different parts that protect the nature. And we also need
(51:16):
these parts in ourselves. Right we will.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Beautiful nature is a healer the way it is right.
If we can get into nature, even if it's only
maybe at the weekend, it's very beneficial. I think.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, So, Debbie, if if as we wrap it up,
if the listeners were to take away from this conversation
today or when they read your book, everybody out there
go buy Debbie's book if they're gonna they I'm stuttering now,
if if there was one takeaway, what would you like
(51:57):
that to be? What what would you like people to
take with them?
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I think to realize that we're more than we actually are,
and to realize that we can do more rather than
be passive. We can do more, especially in relation to
our well being, our health, or our empowerment. I think
one of the things we haven't mentioned, but is that
to be quiet and to listen to that little voice within.
(52:26):
I write a bo in the book. I call it
our higher self or our soul, but it doesn't have
to be Some people don't like that. It can be whatever.
But I do truly believe that there's a part of
us that really knows what is in our best interest.
And quite often this connection with that part and our
physical self is a little bit rusty because we haven't
(52:47):
always had the time to cultivate it. But I think,
you know, having quiet moments and listening, be at peace
and listen to what's really in your best interest, and
to be able to decipher those messages maybe and follow
that interest, and just to just to be a little
(53:09):
bit more open maybe to that sort of side of things.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
I love that that's the inner voice work. Whether we
call it higher self or whether we call it divine
guidance or whether we call it our inner voice. We're
back to this balance between expression, which is important, and
also tuning in to our essence and work with ower essences.
But it's also connected to our own essence, right, our
(53:36):
own vibrational essence. So I thank you. I thank you
Debbie for sharing your wisdom and your insights on frequencies
and your vibrational work that you do your workers a
beautiful reminder on how our personal frequency holds the key
to profound healing and transformation. That we are responsible, We
(53:59):
have the ability to respond, so we are responsible for
our own vibrational wellness. And to all of our listeners
out there, thank you so much for tuning in. Go
get Debbie's new book, and if today's conversation resonated with you,
share this episode with someone who could benefit from it,
and subscribe to Voice Rising on your favorite streaming platform.
(54:20):
It's always lovely to be inspired by so many people
that are using frequency and voice and writing and journaling
and all these things to make the world a better place. Well,
thank you so much, Debbie.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Thank you Kara, you have a beautiful evening. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (54:57):
Absolublysto ay time, how the sun is hot turns me
once we have the storm. Still believe
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