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December 31, 2025 • 46 mins
On today's episode, Joe, Steve and Art discuss early money moves in college football playoffs, NBA, college basketball and more!

00:00 INTRODUCTION
03:08 WHERE'S THE EARLY NFL MONEY GOING?
06:45 WHERE'S THE CFB PLAYOFF GAMES MONEY GOING?
11:28 ANY CFB BOWL MONEY COMING IN TO THE BOOKS?
20:18 PARLAY OF THE DAY
21:35 NEW YEARS RESOLUTIONS
28:57 CFB PLAYOFF GAMES BEST BETS
31:21 NBA RUNDOWN
34:22 NHL RUNDOWN
36:40 CBB RUNDOWN
39:37 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS! LIVE BETTING TIPS
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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Four college football playoff games. We're gonna take them all apart.
We're gonna tell you how to bet them. We're gonna
tell you where the money is going. We're gonna look
at the Packers and the Vikings. We're gonna look at
the Chargers and the Broncos and the Browns and the Bengels.
Plus NBA, College Basketball, NHL, some New Year's resolutions, and
of course your Parlay of the Day. I'm Lawrence Presman.

(00:22):
This is the best betting show ever. We are almost
at twenty twenty six. We'll talk about that a little later.
Joe and Arian arct Theses are joining h Joe, how
did I lose my Utah bet last night in the NBA?
How what happened? I don't understand one and a half
bloody points? God damn.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
And they were winning most of that game too, And
that was a terrible fourth quarter on their parts. Are
and I. We're still trying to figure out some of
those late college basketball scores, Like you had a team
win with forty seven total points in a game, Perez.
You ever seen after four seven total points?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes? Actually I recalled five years ago there was like
a Wisconsin team I think there was a team that
was winning like thirty eight thirty three every night. Wow,
and it was recently.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was it Wisconsin, Well, that would have been like the
kinds of offenses that they've had to pay. Yes, yeah, Virginia,
they might have won, Virginia. Virginia team that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Was winning those like the over and under this game
is sixty eight. You're like what yeah, And then I
think at the time Seaton Hole or Villanova. I think
it was Villanova, and it was like their total is
two hundred and eight. They're in the same league playing
the same sport. So true, and yeah, well there's four

(01:51):
hundred college of football college basketball teams. Last night, I'm
driving with the kids and we were playing name the
college football nicknames because we had Tennessee playing, uh Illinois.
I was on Illinois with my clients five and one
start the Bulls, five and one to start Bolls. So
I'm like, okay, guys, I'll give you all one hundred

(02:13):
dollars name the Tennessee team, and I will give you
the letter V. And they failed failed, and then uh yeah,
then it got really out of control. I was like,
I was like the Rhode Island reach arounds and they're
like that Camdian thing, that Camian thing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's not a thing.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And then I was like the Pacific rim jobs. They're like,
that's not a thing. That None of that is true, folks,
None of that story is crude. This story is all right, Okay, alright.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Just because you got a rim job in Rhode Island
one time doesn't make them the mascot spreads. That's just
not how it works. I'm surprised you didn't say I
was the giver.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, oh my god, Okay, you dirty man. Okay, let's
get into some actual vetting information. Let's start with the NFL.
Then we're going to take apart the college football playoff
games Art Packers, Vikings, Chargers, Broncos, Browns, and Bengals. And
when you're done, we're going to throw more games at you. Anyway,
So mike' s yords sounds good.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
They took the Packers plus seven. That was sharp action.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
We're now six and a half under, got bet heavily
two thirty seven and a half, now thirty six, Chargers
and Broncos. Obviously, Herbert gets ruled out. We were on
the high end the start the game at eight. Now
we're twelve and a half. It would not shock me
if this game gets to the two touchdowns like we
discussed yesterday, I think we're going to be in that mode. Obviously,

(03:49):
the tight the total really went down as well, forty
and a half to thirty seven and a half. And
then the brown game with the Bengals. Obviously Browns half Bengals.
It's been seven and a half. There's been two way
on both sides. But I think you're gonna see the
Bengals be very popular and teasers and money lines this week,
even in a meaningless game. I think you're gonna see that.

(04:10):
I think you're gonna see the favorites just as they
do every week. I bet heavily in these money line parlays.
We're gonna need one of these big big dogs to
win out right, because I think it's gonna be just
a slew of that this week.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot
of that. I'm wondering art when you look ahead, there's
some of these lines coming up on Sunday. I mean,
you've got the the Carolina game and Tampa, right, so
we know that Tampa could still win that game and
not make the playoffs. Do you anticipate there being a
lot of adjustment? If that's the case, Tampa wins, and

(04:47):
now the Atlanta game in New Orleans is for all
the marbles. Do you anticipate more handle more money coming
in there? Is it already baked into the line If
that's the case.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I think it's baked in the line. But I think
you will see people now turn their focus to that game.
And also, you know, we dealt with this last week
when you had some of these Saturday games that could
be correlated to Sunday games.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
You always got to be a little weary of that
as well, where people try to set up two teams
correlated harlays.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Sometimes you fight against that.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, our diseason joining us. Let's just talk really quick
about these two Saturday games. I want to know how
much money is actually coming in on Carolina that we
got now two and a halfs across the board. And
I want to know how much money is actually coming
in on Seattle. This line is flopped all the way.
It's now minus one and a half towards Seattle. Really.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, so obviously the early money for US was on Carolina.
It was sharp money.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
But you know, the market also moved that way, and
you know it moved us off our three and put
us to Tampa two and a half. You know, I
was talking to Joe before we got on and we
opened the Seattle game at pick, and we said, you
know what, there are plenty of ones on Seattle. There
are plenty of ones on San Francisco. Let's see what
happens here. Let's ope it pick. Let's see what our

(06:10):
clientele and our sharp guys do. So obviously for us,
the initial money came in on Seattle as well and
pushed us to Seattle minus one one and a half.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
So listen, a lock of change.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
We'll discuss obviously those two games a lot more in
depth on Friday, because there will be a couple more
days of betting that's coming in. It will be a
day before the games. But yes, early money for both
of us on both of those games, Carolina and Seattle.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I don't think there's any question about it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Guys, no show tomorrow. We will have a show on
Friday where we're gonna take apart every NFL game. Our
college football the playoffs start well tonight. We've got our
first game going Ohio State minus nine and a half
against Miami Florida and a very low total. There's actually

(06:58):
a forty at one book, but predominantly forty and a half.
This is the Cotton Bowl where we celebrate cotton. Yes, yes,
I don't even know why we celebrate cotton. Who makes
money on the Cotton Bowl? Who's are paying well the
licensing rights?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I mean is cotton like paying entitya Anyway, I'm curious
about the Orange Bowl as well, who's paying the naming
rights or the Orange Bowl too? And the Rose Bowl.
But let's move on. Let's start with Miami Florida and
Ohio State. Talk to me absolutely.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
We opened Ohio State minus nine and a half total
of forty two and a half, took early money on
Ohio State, moved us to ten and a half. Then
we took Miami money at ten and a half. We're
now back to nine and a half. So we've seen
sharps on both sides. The total is the big move
for us. Sharps took under forty two two and a
half and forty one and a half. We're now sitting
at that forty and a half. So for us, we

(08:06):
will need some points in the game because listen, Normally
a total doesn't dictate your outcome on a game. But
if we see pretty good two way action on the
game and the game split that way, the total is
probably gonna be the one that is our outcome for
that game.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
So we'll see.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Obviously a lot can happen between now and kickoff. We're
goon in Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is the game.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I don't know, it's probably the game that's gotten the
least amount of love. You know, Oregon, we were open
one and a half. We moved to two and a half.
With the market on that total of fifty two and
a half, Sharps did bet that under to fifty one
and a half.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
There have been some Texas Tech teasers.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
We always talk not a lot of teasers in college,
but when you get late into the season here and
you can move Texas Tech up over a touchdown, people
have been doing that. Indiana is very public as far
as money lines and the side they laid six and
a half, we're now seven. I think eventually we're gonna
see Sabama money because Bama is public and people are

(09:04):
gonna go, wait, Alabama's plus seven Alabama on the money line.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
All that type of stuff has not happened. Yet totals
also come down on this game.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
That seems to be a theme with all these college
football playoff games. We opened forty and a half, now
forty seven and a half, and then Old Miss took
money sharp money at plus seven, so we saw sharp
money there. Now Georgia is a six and a half
point favorite. That's the one total that is not fifty
five and a half has pretty much been our number

(09:32):
since our opener.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So my question in all of these is, I'm having
a hard time with this Bama Indiana game because you
and I both now you're right, the public Darling is
Indiana Bama is always public SCC versus Big ten. But
when I look at it compared to the Georgia game, right,
let's not forget three weeks ago Bama was getting a

(09:57):
point and a half on a neutral site against Georgia, right,
I think it was one one and a half is
what it closed. Bama was a one and a half
point dog. So you mean to tell me that Georgia,
like Indiana, is what six points better than Georgia on
a neutral side? Is that kind of what you're I
don't understand this line here outside of their just anticipating

(10:20):
the public is going to be all over Indiana because
that makes zero sense to me.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, and Joe, it really is.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
That Indiana Alabama game is set up to be public
money on both sides because, as we said, there's already
been public money we've seen in that game. That's the
one game for us we've seen like no sharp money
yet like Alabama Indiana, there's been no sharp money even
on the total.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Really, I mean a little bit on the under, I guess.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
But when we moved to seven, it's because of public money.
But I expect by the time we get to that game,
it's gotta be Alabama public money.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I mean, how does that not happen?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Now?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
We could get to a point as well where sharp
guys just c seven and they take seven, you know,
because it is a key number, right, three and seven
in football. I mean, I think that's what they were
doing with the old Miss game early. They said, Hey,
if you're gonna give us seven, we're gonna take the seven.
Who's Georgia to be laying that much? It feels like
maybe that could be a field goal game, so we'll
take the seven. I'm shocked by kind of the game

(11:21):
where they're just kind of laying in the weeds on
that game, and no sharp group wants to take a
position on either side.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Strange. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna stay with college football
because there are four other games. And I don't know
what the rely Quest Bowl is. I don't even know
what rely Quest is. Maybe it's an American thing. I'm Canadian.
Maybe it's a company sells insurance.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
But there is a bowl called the rely Quest Bowl.
There's the Sun Bowl. We got the Citrus Bowl, which
is different to the Orange Bowl because it's more it's
not as divisive, if you will, it includes lemons and limes.
And then of course you have the Las Vegas Bowl,
which is clearly against all other cities. Do you have

(12:08):
any betting information on these ridiculously named bowls and those
are today?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, yeah, listen to they ridiculous balls.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I will say this because it's the local bowl, the
Vegas ball with Utah Nebraska, there was a ton of
early Utah money that moved that number all the way
up to I believe seventeen.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
And a half is the high we got on that game.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Then, obviously the Utah coach is going to retire, and
now he's going to retire and on retire and go
take the Michigan job. Nebraska seen Nebraska, yes, I mean right,
that's college football for you. Nebraska people travel, they are here,
they've been here the last couple of days. We've seen
a lot of corn Husker gear in the casino. So
you've seen a lot of public money coming on Nebraska

(12:55):
taking them plus fourteen now because that went all the
way back down to fourteen. So that's a game that
we'll see good handle on just because it's in town
the other games. Honestly, Pres, I hate to say it
like this, who cares?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'll say this though, I mean, you got two games,
and as of recording this, by the time you guys
probably watched this game will have already started. But you
talked yesterday Art about how the back and forth nature
of the betting between Iowa and Vandy at the PRES's
favorite the rely request Paul Raymond James. By the way, Prez,
that's in Tampa. Is I'm seeing threes now for Vanderbilt.

(13:32):
They were originally what five and a half up as
high as five and a half cent. Now we're seeing
all this money coming late on Iowa. It's kind of crazy,
the late money coming on between Iowa and Vandy. I
didn't see this coming.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, Like when we talked yesterday before the day before
we did our show, there was all this Iowa money,
and then when we came on yesterday there was all
this Vanderbilt one. Now the Iowa money again. I'm telling
you the headache we have trying to book these games
and all the middles we have to deal with, and

(14:09):
how we have accounts who have bets on both sides.
I was telling you that, you know, the what was
it the Army Yuka Army Yukon game where there were
people who laid three and took.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Ten and a half. I mean, it's like it's insane.
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
After a while, it's just like what are we doing?
And I will say this, we have tried our best
to keep limits as low as possible until maybe you know,
a day before the game, you know, day of game.
It's just it's so hard for us.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Crazy fun show. This is why this is the best
betting show ever. Guys hit that Like Button. We spoke
a lot about why it is crucial you guys hit
that like button, and it really is yes it is,
so the press will shut the hell up. I know
we have our New York resolutions coming soon. I'm thinking

(14:58):
about opening up a date care center in the neighborhood.
Is that a reasonable thing to uh have as a
New Year's resolution? No?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
No, okay, wait wait wait you like you welcome in,
like you watching the kids?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Or no? No, no, I just build a government Oh
oh actual daycare center?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Much better, much better?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh my lord? Sorry, so uh yeah, so there's a
little sneak preview into what I hope to accomplish in
the New York. Uh, guys, it's time.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Were our part?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Wait? What is relya quest? Well, no, no serious questions.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
What is it a thing? Yes?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Rely quest reyber Security Company press based out of based
out of Florida. Okay, did you know that art? No chance,
I know that.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
There you go, you know, you know, you know, have
no idea, but it sounds good.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So that's like that game Boulder Dash whatever I buy it,
you sold me. I'm both and I.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Honestly you Bolt just sat there straight faced like all right,
I can buy that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, So you none of you know what the hell
were live?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Quest is?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I thought it was a car big enough and they're
big enough to day.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Or a bowl.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
That's where I was. Joe car company.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I would have thought it was a car company,
but rental or ye.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, guys put up in the chat what reliquest is
even though I'm going to google it while we do
our parlay of the day. Okay, Art Caezar, we lost
our Parla of the day. It was not my bolt.
I won my bet. It was under in the life game.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Right. Wait before we do that, can I just ask
you one quick question RK, because I'm having a hard
time down here and pres I'll understand this, prays, when
are you getting into town.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Saturday?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay? I still capitalize me figure out why thirty eight
minutes up the road, the Florida Panthers have this beautiful
arena and rink that they play in, and yet somehow
they went to Marlin's Park where the Marlins play and
built an entire rink inside of there for what is
supposed to be art is it the Winter Classic inside

(17:35):
Marlins Park when they already have an inside state? What
do you usually do from a handle perspective on these
winter classics, especially when they're not in the winter in
anywhere outdoors is it wasn't that whole thing's supposed.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
To be Outdoor Classic?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Wow yeah it now well and press probably you can
answer it better. But they've just tried to give everyone
one of these games.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now make sense?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Remember when they had the one out in Lake Tahoe
and the iceman did.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's hard, It makes hard. It makes total sense in
this day and age. Why should Canada have a winter
and Laura to not have a winter that is winter,
that is summerst inclusionists.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
It's unfair, it is everybody gets a crack.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, everybody must have minus twenty everyone.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, Joe, to really answer your question, does it ever.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Get any handle like two people? It never does, right, No.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
No, it doesn't change the betting handle on that particular game.
Hockey betters are there all year. They bet hockey through
and through. They bet it from October all the way
through the Stanley Cup final. But just because we have
this quote unquote Winter Classic game, it does not doesn't
change or budge the handle at all.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Gotcha said that I got tickets. We're going so just
so you know what, yeah night, well yeah we'll talk okay,
so you can feel right at home. Like the Winter
inside Lone Depot Park.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Marlin Stadium. Just to let you all know, Joe, you
were right. Why a Quest is a global cybersecurity company
no more weight, eye powered gray Matter platform Wow, which
provides security teams with unified visibility at the automation to detect, investigate,

(19:42):
I mean the words, and respond to threats across complex,
multi cloud and on premises environments.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
No to self, I need to immediately as soon as
the show is done, go play power Ball immediately as
we're done here, that done, done that the other day?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Wow? Okay, client plate with me. Parlay of the day.
I'm taking the Vegas Golden Knights in regulation.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
How did Toronto do last night? By the way, did
they win? I know you what you went over?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yes they won, Yes they won Vegas Golden Knights and
regulation art.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Oh I like it.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I'm gonna go to the NHL as well. And yes
it was me who screwed up the parlay of the day.
But we always say bet them all straight and you'll
come out a winner. I'm gonna go against a team
that you said we should start going with res but
the line is weird to me. But I'm gonna take
the Red Wings at home against the Jets, short favorite, Joe.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Before we get to yours. I agree with that bet
all because I say we need to look to bet
on Winnipeg moving forward. Don't mean the next day. No,
I'm hoping Winnipeg loses, and if they do, I will
be betting on them in the next game. Joe, third
leg is yours.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I think this one's easy. To give me the San
Antonio Spurs at home to beat the New York Knicks
and get a little bit of revenge from that NBA
Cup Final they lost on a neutral court in Arts
next to the Woods, and that was in Vegas. I
like san Antonio to get it done tonight at home.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay, time for our New Year's resolutions. I will go last, art,
Do you want to go first?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mine is going to be simple. I want to do
everything in my power and this includes you boys, to
just keep building this show to be the best show ever.
I think we are on our way and I want
to continue to build our fan base and continue to try.
I knew things in twenty twenty six with the best
betting show ever, Joe.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I was actually that was very impressive. There art, that's
actually good. Pres My new year's resolution is I too
want to try new things. In fact, a couple of
new bourbons that I'll be looking at tonight, and I
will make sure that we ring in the new year
the correct way.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, there we go. Well, firstly, as Barbree, I agree
with you, Art, I think this show has the potential
to be enormous and I would like nothing more than
that to happen. So I agree. For me personally though,
I just want to laugh more. I mean, that's really

(22:45):
my priority moving into twenty twenty six. I'm getting older.
I'm going to be fifty seven in May. The world
is falling apart. Blue is mad at Green, Yellow hates Red,
Eve wants to be Michelle. Michelle hates John, Right, hates left,
Left wants to kill right. It's the whole everything is

(23:10):
a mess, and honest to God, if we could all
just laugh more. So that is my priority moving forward.
I just want to find more humor all the time.
As I age. There you go, what, Joe, is that
too cheesy for you?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Let's be nicer? Pressed.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't say let's be nicer, said let's laugh more.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
What requires you to be nice to people?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Making fun of people gives me a lot of huge
All we do is make fun of Brian Power.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Correct. I'm going to try to be a little harder
on him next year. I think I think I give
him a free pass far to it? Does I agree?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah? Yeah, there you go. Okay, guys, in all seriousness,
I really do think this twenty twenty six needs to
be about laughter, and that's really one of the reasons
why this show is going to be even more successful
than it is art. What do you got to promote?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Well, listen, guys, obviously you know to both of you
and you know all our listeners, fans, people comment, even
people who hate you know, happy twenty twenty six. And
we'll be back on Friday to dive into more football
because obviously we still got a lot more games to
break down, so Friday will be a nice fun show.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
There you go, thanks for doing this art. You've got
a night planned or you're at the sportsbook.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
No, I'm off.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Wednesdays are an off day for me, so luckily it
just fell that way and I'm off. I'll be back
in the office tomorrow at six am, so you know
it won't be a crazy night, but I'll be able
to relax and enjoy the full all games and even
some of the earlier games in the other sports.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
So be a nice relaxing day.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
How does that work?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Ard?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Do you celebrate like nine o'clock Eastern time? Do you
get like, do you just celebrate right through your midnight?
Or how does it work?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Well, I'll say this, right through my midnight, I'll one
hundred percent be sleeping, There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Fine, that's where I'm yeah, one hundred percent. I got
so many people in my life.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
On the East Coast, so the text will start trickling in,
you know, nine nine oh one, nine oh two my time,
and then maybe an hour later I'm asleep.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, that's all right, So at least the nine o'clock
wave you're up for after that? Yeah, good night, good
bye bye? Now, uh huh makes sense?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Okay, Well, art, have a great h look as they
call see in twenty twenty six art.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yes, boys, there we go.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
No more art for the year.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Joe, God, can't believe that. That's hard to believe that
My kid was like yesterday, he was just here.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
My kid told me that last night. She's like, Dad,
you know, I don't need any more money from you
this year. Really yeah. And I'm like, oh, that's incredible.
She's like, gah, there's only one more day.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Wow. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Smart Yeah. That kind of ruined that whole damn thing.
Smart Yeah. Okay, brother, we got some business to take
care of, and then we're going to do our college
football playoff ben NBA Rundown, NHL Rundown, and our college
Hoops Rundown. Plus we will be doing a mailbox segment
of this show. It's time for some business, see it is, Joe.

(26:35):
Before we get into what I or you specifically have,
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(26:58):
I got a big, big big car. I got a
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a dog win outright. For some reason, though, I was
a nervous man. I was nervous on the field goal.
I was nervous, but they won outright. I'm five and

(27:18):
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and that's not you know, and anomaly. I'm sixty three
percent over my last four years of betting college football.
I got a five percent up tomorrow, and I also
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(27:39):
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But well, LFG, baby.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Joe, what do you got? Well, Pras, I've got a
five percent college football bowl game coming up today that
is available. I also have an NBA game locked and loaded,
ready to go, and I am about to post a
NFL top play coming up for Sunday in fact, so

(28:35):
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Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, Joe, let's get into it. We got a bunch
of five segments left to go. But now we're going
on the clock. Here's my college football and it goes
to night and it is in a playoff game, Miami
against Ohio State, and the play right now is Miami
plus the nine. This public, the public right now is

(29:11):
expecting this Ohio State Buckeye team to roll. And why
shouldn't they? That's what they do. I see this game
as a slugfest. I see this game played in tight
places with a whole lot of hard tackling and violence.
We're going to take the points. Let's talk about the paces.
This Ohio State team, Well, they've been a slug this season.

(29:31):
They're operating on one of the slowest paces of any
team in college football, thirty one point eight seconds per play.
Coach Ryan Day wants to get the ball to his receivers,
but he can't if his quarterback is on his back,
and I think that's really where this game is going
to be played, in the trenches, and that's where the

(29:51):
mismatch exists. Ohio State has glaring issues on the right
side of their O line. They're lining up against a
Miami front that is won of the fiercest, most violent
pass rushers in the country. If Ohio State can't protect
their quarterback, just saying kind of a pun there, they

(30:12):
can't cover the spread. Sprinkle a little on the money
line for me, Joe, take Miami. What do you got?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Are the you like where you're heading in that one? Pres,
I'm going to go to the game that has the
lowest number across the board, because ultimately, I do think
it's a coin flip. But we made a lot of
money back in Texas Tech this year. Why because outside
of the one loss there of Arizona State, well, they

(30:38):
pretty much rolled everybody else. I think twenty two points
or more in just about every other game they are. Pres,
I don't think they're gonna enough credit in this one.
And listen, I love Oregon, love Dante Moore, love Landing,
but he is really really good at beating up inferior teams.
But any time in his career now at Oregon that

(30:59):
he has had step up, it doesn't go as well.
I don't think it's gonna go well here, Texas Tech.
Keep your points on the money line to get it
done this week. Prez, there you go, joke, keep on
a rolling, brother. You got your NBA rundown coming up, a.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Lot of games on app. You got two minutes to
go through them all.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
All right, Prez, let's get er done here as we
are going to start early today. Warriors taking on the Hornets.
Third game in four nights for the Golden State Warriors here.
This is an older team, to say the least. Here
that might not be a great spot for them. The
Hornets conk Nipple back shooting trees here. They should be

(31:42):
healthy enough here. They'll have ball, they'll have Canipple, and
they'll have Miller on the court here tonight. That's enough
for me to take the seven and a half points
with the Hornets. The Hawks are atrocious. You wonder how
bad they are. They're talking about training for Anthony Davis.
What in the world are you doing? Yes, No, I'll
take the Timberwolves here to get it done in that one.

(32:03):
The magic should finally get back in the win column.
I think as well. They're taking on the Indiana Pacers,
the Suns and the Calves. Calves finally got off to
schneid there against Houston last came out. They're back home
at the Rocket Arena. I think they can get it
done against the Suns, but I do like the over
just as much. The Pelicans have been an ATM machine.

(32:26):
No more Josh giddy for the Bulls, though. I like
the Pelicans to fight hard here and get it done
for a slight upset. We talked about it earlier. I
like the Spurs to exact a little revenge on the Knicks.
I think the Raptors, well, should they be laying six
and a half. I know it's the Nuggets without the
Joker or anybody else, but not buying it there. I

(32:49):
do like the under in that game as well. End
up the Lasers taking on the Well, the Blazers have
already lost that game. Who are we kidding? Lay the
fifteen and a half. And the Milwaukee Bucks going to
handle business against the Wizards, and yes they're gonna win
by double digits and with Giannis back, I have no
problem backing the Milwaukee bucks at this price. I would

(33:10):
also tend to think we might get a bit of
an over in this game. Low number in that one.
I'll take the over and the bucks and press. That's
is your envy?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
A what in the world?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
What do you what is? Oh? Wow, look at that pres.
Let me see if I.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Can get reading articles, reading articles, reading articles? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is that scratching, stiff? What is that?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
This is my birthday edition? Joe? Yeah, they were just
as fied back in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Wow? Any uh any cigarette ads in there by? Some checks?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Uh? Yeah, Oh that one's a good one. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I'm oh yours one?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yours one. I can't show the pictures on air, though.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Paul Mall Like, what is it?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, Paul Mall? Camel You know Teddy Covers used to
smoke camel cat anyway, So sorry about that. You were
boring me, Joe.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Sorry, sorry, but just giving out winners over here. I'll
be fine, yep, yeah, okay, ready for your NHL.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah yeah, caught red handed? Huh okay, let's move on
ahead at AHL every game on the board. Let's go
New York Rangers playing Washington. I like the under in
this game five and a half. This game's about to start.
Take the under if you can still get it, because
you can't, because well, this game is starting.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Nashville playing Vegas. I like Vegas here at Joe. I
like them in regulation. I think they're gonna get going.
I think this is a team we're gonna look to
bet on moving forward, and Naturville as a team we're
gonna look to fade. Tampa Bay playing Anaheim six and
a half. I don't normally bet over six and a half,
but I have to hear Anaheim nine out of the
last ten home games have gone over. Tampa Bay is

(35:00):
a stone cold over team right now. That's what we're
looking Minnesota playing San Jose. Is it the type of
Minnesota to lose? Maybe? I think it's a shit spot
for them, coming off with a big victory against Vegas,
playing a team they don't care about. I think the
dog is live. Take the Sharks. I like Detroit slightly
in this game against Winnipeg, but I am looking to

(35:23):
bet on Winnipeg moving forward. Columbus playing New Jersey. Mancheldon
Keith called his players out last night, told the presser
at in Toronto that his players have no balls well,
I think they will show a little bit of moxie tonight.
They'll get it done. It's a pick them take the Devils.
I like Dallas to beat Buffalo. Buffalo on a nine

(35:45):
game win streat caughtest team in the league. I think
it ends tonight. They getting an angry Dallas team coming
off of three shitty games against shitty teams. Dallas plays
lights out tonight. Colorado against Saint Louis. Let's go crazy here, Joe.
Let's take the Blues. They've beat Saint Louis three times
in a row. They've beat them this year already two

(36:07):
to one. I don't want to play against the Colorado
team that doesn't lose hockey games. With a plus three hundred,
We're gonna take a flyer on the Blues. Philadelphia playing Calgary.
I like Philadelphia here, and I like them slightly. I
lean on the under as well, and I like Edmonton
in regulation against the Boston Bruins. Your college basketball rundown, Joe.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh, all right, pras well. We got a lot of
early games here today for New Year's Ze, but we
do have a couple of games coming up a little
bit later, one of them involving Charleston taking on Elon.
I had mentioned now Elon a couple of days ago.
In fact, in the college basketball Rundown is one of
the best mid major offenses that you will see. But

(36:52):
they are at home and they're laying at least a
bucket here against this Charleston team, who has have been
one of the better teams in the conference. Here they're
only seven and six against the spread, but they've dealt
with a ton of injuries, and they got a bunch
of guys coming back here for this one. Elon is good.
Elon just can't play any defense the Cougars can. I

(37:17):
think Charleston not a bad look getting points in this
one here. And of course we have a couple of
games coming up a little bit later, and I had
mentioned this team earlier to you, Prez William and Mary.
Shout out to Steve Merrill and company here all of
a sudden, William and Mary Brian Earle, who I believe
Steve Merrill had a hand in voting as their new coach. Here,

(37:41):
it's done a pretty good job. This is a very
good William and Mary team. They are in fact a
favorite by double digits.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
In this one.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
They're taking on a Stonybrook team that they've lost their
last three games, and I don't think they're gonna have
enough offense to keep up.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Here.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
This feels like a good opportunity. Yes, it's ten and
a half eleven, but if it ain't broke, let's not
fix it here. Let's back our good.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Friends there at William and Mary and again.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
A shout out there to Steve Merrill and one big
rivalry game coming up Virginia Tech in Virginia Tech. Virginia
Tech is a little bit shorthanded in this one, but
Virginia's best three point shooter, mister White there is not
available for this game. Broke his wrist a couple of
games ago. I think Virginia Tech hangs and gets it

(38:33):
done here five five and a half points at home.
I'll take the Hokies over the Cavs.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
There, Pres, Joe, let's get to our mailbox section of
the show. Robert Tatta Prez Hawaii loves your show. Well,
I'll tell you something. I love Hawaii, so thank you
for that. Go man, absolutely love this show. Brew Diggity
missed you, Pres. How sad is my life? You're life great?

(38:58):
So you get the heck out President Joe. On a
regular basis, I say the other people's lives are sad. Chris,
thank you guys for another great show. Lots of love,
Chris air Duck, this is crazy that a few people
only hit only a few people hit the like button. Well,
yesterday we went up to ten percent. Yes, Joe, I

(39:19):
complained that only four percent of the people hit the
like button. Yesterday we got up to ten percent. Ten
percent seems very low to me, Joe. I mean, I
am glad and I'm proud that we doubled our percentage,
but what the hell, dude, we should be at at
least eighty percent, So guys, hit that like button, Joe.

(39:42):
Derek Murphy writes, pres you're the only one on the
channel that I hear discussing live betting. I dabble in
it as well and greatly appreciate you acknowledging it. Would
welcome more insights. Thanks for another great show. Okay, Joe,
let's talk about some in gay betting for a second.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
You do it. I've been known to host a show
that that does it. Yes, that yeah talks about it.
Y yeah, Well, many advice would be My advice would
be here, guys that when it comes to in game betting,
I would only I would only look to do it
if in a lot of times where I can look

(40:21):
for a middle, as if I am invested pre game
and I see a certain way the game is going
a I can give myself an opportunity to win both
bets and get myself in a middle.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's when I really like to do it.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
The important thing to remember is that just because you're
watching a game or looking the live bet doesn't mean
you have to because it sometimes gets out of control
where you're making a million bets to try and hedge
out of the last bet you made. Just keep it simple.
If you have a pregame bet, try to find the
middle in the game. If you get it, great, If

(40:55):
you don't, you don't. But there's no reason to have
to bet live.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and guys, everybody does have different strategies. So for me,
I don't look to middle ever, and I'm okay with
Joe doing that. It makes sense. Why not take the
money if you can find the middle. It's not how
I bet personally, and I do a lot of in
game betting, and I'm gonna tell you literally a few
of the easiest ways to make money in game betting

(41:21):
right off the bat. Conceptually, you have to bet against
the original line. That is the most important thing period,
end of story. The La Rams were minus seven minus
seven and a half against Atlanta Falcons. They were down
twenty one nothing. It was LA plus seven and a half.
That is now fifteen points different to the original line.

(41:44):
I'm interested in making that bet. It's literally as simple
as that. If I could get into double digit differences,
I'm interested in that bet. And that is across any sport.
So you know, if Colorado Avalanche tonight minus three hundred,
if they're down to nothing in the first period, I'm

(42:06):
interested in that bet. I'm also looking to bet favorites
when they are down early. And the real trick here,
Joe is that first drive. So if you have a team,
let's pick uh, let's pick Miami New England this Sunday.
So New England is minus ten and a half minus ten.

(42:29):
Miami is all week to game plan that first drive
all week. They get the kick, they get the ball,
they march down the field, they score, it's seven to nothing.
What have we got now an opportunity to bet the
New England Patriots. I am always looking for the road
dog to score first in the NFL, and I'm jumping

(42:52):
on the other side and I'm doing that almost blind, Joe.
But again it has to be done against the original line. Lastly,
don't bet if your bet is worse than the original line.
So if the La Rams are minus seven against Atlanta

(43:14):
and they're the team up twenty one nothing, they are
not the team to bet. So there's some sort of
advice on how to attack in game betting, and he
last us.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, and listen, I mean in game betting is also
understanding first half versus second half. Yeah, the NFL is
different than if betting Major League Baseball or bet so
you know, we had mentioned all week how the Buffalo
Bills are single handedly the most profitable team in the
second half of games all season long. They've been like

(43:48):
that for a while. Now. They start slow, they finished strong.
They were down thirteen to nothing against Philadelphia pres and
just one number you could have gotten for the second
half there against them, because Philadelphia completed one pass in
the second half. They covered the second half. They fell
a little bit short, but they were a favorite in
that game, Prez, and you know what you could have

(44:10):
gotten them It over a touchdown at one point in
the first half there. So that's how you get involved
with those.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Games, Joe. I think you're going to fight some opportunities
in the four college football playoff games to do exactly that.
I mean, you got look, you think Alabama were instance
their plus seven Indiana walks down the field scores a touchdown, Well,
now that's fourteen. What is Alabama going to be? What
is Indiana going to be? Those are the type of

(44:37):
bets that we're looking for. And I want to leave
you with one last thing, Joe. In the NHL, there's
been a movement this year that I don't think we've
seen before where we have a game that's three to
one right with five minutes left, and it ends five
to two, and this is happening over and over and

(45:00):
over again. There are you guys can go on to
Google or chat, gm T or whatever and study what
coaches pull their goalies with two minutes left, with three
minutes left, with four minutes left, what coaches pull their
goalies down by two or down by three? There are

(45:21):
and there's incredible betting opportunities there, and a trick if
you want to go for plus three thousand bets Joe right.
For instance, Cale mccarr is going to be on the
ice if they are If Colorado Avalanche is up three
to one and Saint Louis pulls their goalie, Cale McCarty

(45:42):
on the ice. So will Nate McKinnon find the guys
that are going to be on the ice and bet
them to score a goal with three minutes left in
the game. But bet the worst player on that team
on the ice, not Cale mccarr, Nate McKinnon, first winger,
because they're gonna have a shot at an empty net

(46:03):
with three minutes or a minute and a half out
of the three because they'll be shifted off. You can
get those plus three thousand Joe, and they hit. So
there's some more advice.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Guys, Boom, what are your man?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Our first year in the books. We'll be back next year.
This show is getting bigger and better.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
It's been a privilege and a pleasure. You guys out
there have an incredible night tonight. So much fun, so
much love, and most of all laugh freaking laugh. Thanks
for doing this with me, Joe.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Happy new you guys. See in twenty twenty six,
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