October 15, 2025 • 23 mins
On today's episode, Prez, Joe and Art discuss money moves in both college football and NFL, which teams to bet against this week, NHL breakdown, as well as a slew of free picks for College Football Week 8 and NFL Week 7!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
00:50 NFL: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
03:30 CFB: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
06:13 MLB: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
06:55 PARLAY OF THE DAY | 3 TEAM
07:39 FADE OR NOT | LAST PLACE TEAMS
15:06 PREZ NFL EARLY BET
15:56 JOE'S NFL EARLY BET
17:07 PREZ CFB EARLY BET
17:58 JOE'S CFB EARLY BET
19:19 NHL RUNDOWN
20:51 MLB RUNDOWN
21:41 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
00:50 NFL: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
03:30 CFB: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
06:13 MLB: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
06:55 PARLAY OF THE DAY | 3 TEAM
07:39 FADE OR NOT | LAST PLACE TEAMS
15:06 PREZ NFL EARLY BET
15:56 JOE'S NFL EARLY BET
17:07 PREZ CFB EARLY BET
17:58 JOE'S CFB EARLY BET
19:19 NHL RUNDOWN
20:51 MLB RUNDOWN
21:41 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS!
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.
We got a ton of betting information coming your way.
The show is about making money. That's why we're here.
Art the Caesar Joveniary joining us. We're gonna talk NFL,
college football, baseball and hockey boys. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Joe swimmingly? Going swimmingly? Swimming?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, swimmingly there as a verb. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Art?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm doing great, excellent.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you going swimming as well?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's a little cold in Vegas to go swimming?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is as well. Here I'm heading to Montreal today.
Brian Power hosting tomorrow. Let's get into it. Let's start
with where the money is going? A sportsbook update from
the Westgate.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Art.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You want to talk NFL Rams and Jags are playing
in London, Dolphins and Browns and Eagles and Vikings.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, absolutely, so that that's a pretty good London game.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Rights the Jags two obviously winning teams. You know that
was its highest three and a half with Jacksonville and
now it's Rams minus three. So we've seen a little
bit of early Jacksonville money come in THEREAMI Miami and Cleveland,
Miami and Cleveland, a game we kind of touched on yesterday.
This was in look Ahead Spots Miami minus one and
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a half. We reopened Cleveland minus one and a half.
Now it's up to Cleveland minus three. So we've taken
a good amount of Cleveland money here to get us
to that key number of three. You know, obviously when
you get to key numbers in the NFL, something is
pushing it that way. Obviously, the market is moving that way,
and nobody is betting Miami, so that's what's gonna get
(01:43):
you there. And then Eagles Vikings, which is a really
good game as well.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know, we.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Reopened Eagles minus one and a half. Now we're Eagles
minus two. I've said I saw some two and a
half earlier in the week. It's kind of been going
back and forth on that game. That game has seemed
pretty good two way action. And Minnesota is also in
that teaser range. I think they will be a team
that people want to tease this week.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's yeah, I mean, no, you're talking about no Miami
love in the marketplace at all, right, but it is
there going to be any value at some point we
think in the year. I mean, the Browns and the
Jets's favorites is kind of mind blowing to me, aren't that?
That's how we started the week off?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, Joe, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think eventually there will be people and there might
be a group here that talks themselves into Miami plus
three because, like I said, it was one and a
half on a reopen, on a look ahead, Miami was
the one and a half point favorite. So now what
you're getting four and a half points of value you
are on that key.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Number of three.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So I do think there will be some I mean,
I'd be shocked if we go any higher. I think
the only way to do the only way for that
line to go is to come back down with someone
taking Miami.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I think anybody who knows how to handicap that game
I should get a job over where you talk dot
com Franks.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Would you like the Jets?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh yeah, I like the Jets. Okay, College football, Penn
State with a new coach, IOWA, UNLV, Boise State, usc
AT Notrre Dame. Where's the money going?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, the Penn State game is fascinating. That look aheadline
over the summer was Penn State minus eleven and a half.
Now you're Iowa minus three. Obviously, it's all fam apart
for Penn State. They're taking Iowa. They're laying the points
with Iowa. They're taking them on the money line now
very low. Total was thirty eight and a half. It
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got bet up to forty. We're now thirty nine and
a half. So a little bit of over money there.
UNLV Boise, which is going to be very popular in
town because UNLV's still on defeated, still trying to make
a move here for the playoff, but they are a big,
big dog here.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We open eleven, we're not twelve. I mean, Boise money
has floated.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean you and lv's had a really nice season,
but they're kind of stepping up here. I don't really
know defensively they can hold up against Boise, not that
it's a vintage Boise team, but you know, you and
v's gonna step up in class here. And it's on
the road and then USC Notre Dame, which is a
very big game as well. We reopened Notre Dame at nine,
it's now nine and a half. We've also seen over money.
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It was sixty one, now sixty two on that game.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I'm curious because We're always going to see Notre Dame.
Public money come in towards towards kickoff, right, is this
get today? It's a de facto elimination game for USC.
I don't know that USC will be in the conversation
for you know, for playoffs. If you know, losing to
Illinois was awful, but now if you touple in with
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a bad lost the Notre Dame, it's gonna be hard
to come by. Is this thing gonna hit double digits?
You think by the time we get the kickoff it could?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And I mean let's be on at show.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean Notre Dame can't have a third loss, so
I mean they lose their I understand their losses are
Miami and A and m to top five teams, but
they can't lose The USC have three losses that think
they're getting in. They don't have anyone else on their
schedule that would help them. I understand it's Notre Dame,
but yeah, I think with the public money that comes in,
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we probably could get there. I mean our look aheadline,
like Game of the yearline on this was eleven and
a half on Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So obviously we're down on that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think the interesting thing is gonna be do they
keep going up on this total?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know, how high does the total get?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Because I think the public's gonna bet the over in
the game as well.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
All Right, the Caesar and Joan are you're watching the
best betting show ever? Guys, hit that like button, subscribe
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tomorrow should be a great show. Check that out. We
got our parlay of the day, our fade or not.
We're gonna go down the last place teams in the NFC,
and we've got NFL bets, College football bets, and the
(06:10):
NHL rundown. Let's get to the well before we get
to the part of the day baseball and hockey. Are
you seeing or hearing anything out there? Maybe an NBA
future bet, a.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Little bit of Blue Jay love this morning. There was
some money there that we took. Once again, we're dealing
a ten cent line, so we're gonna be a little
bit more generous sometimes on the dog. So people are
gonna come in and say, hey, let's take the best
price on the Blue Jays. They have it over at
the Super Bowl. NHL really not much to speak of
with the four games, there really wasn't much movement for
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US overnight NBA. I don't want to just throw anything
rand about. I know NBA starts next week, and I
think I'll be able to hit on some of those
futures with you know, better information next week. But I'll
definitely get something together for that awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, parlay of the day, my first leg, my leg
won yesterday. I'm going with the under six. Yes, there
are sixes out there in the Chicago Saint Louis hockey game.
What do you got, Art.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Pres I'm gonna make you happy. I think your team
wins tonight. I'm gonna take the Blue Jays at plus
money and Joe.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know, last night in college football, every road door
either at one outright or covered. But now we've got
a couple of road favorites that I just don't get here.
I'm gonna take Jacksonville State plus the field goal tonight.
I don't see a whole hell of a lot of
difference between Delaware and Jacksonville State.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There we go, that's our parlay of the day. Let's
keep the show moving along. Let's get to our fade
or not. NFC Conference last place teams. We'll start with
the New York Giants. This is a bet on team
of me moving forward. I feel like from an emotional
perspective and emojo perspective, this team is kind of you know,
maybe the sun will come out tomorrow. The bottom line is,
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they've had many years of hell, and I feel like
they're going to play a little looser. I like them
this week. I like them moving forward, aren't I agree?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Press?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I like them this week. I like them moving forward.
There's even talks about them going out and getting a
receiver for Dark to kind of help with his you know,
growth process here, not even so much to make the playoffs,
just so hey, we need to keep growing this kid.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's go trade for a receiver. I like the Giants, Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, there's nothing not to like.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
They're heading in the right direction, and they've you know,
overtaken the Jets in the New York market. They're not
they don't suck nearly as bad anymore. But that schedule
doesn't get easier either, Art, I mean, Denver is not
going to be easy as you keep going down the list.
You know, my my worry here, guys, I don't know
pres you worried about this being one of those trendy dogs,
like the Giants, just being that team that everyone is
(08:48):
in love with now because the schedule is brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and you know, I'm only looking against the spread,
so I really don't care how many games they win,
so against the spread schedule doesn't worry me. I'm not
going to get to the window this week on the Giants, Joe.
I like them this week, but like the spot for Denver,
and I mean I do like the spot with Denver.
(09:14):
It's one of those angles where I really like to
play on good teams that won their last game but
played really bad. And that's what Denver is, right. Denver
is a decently good team. They won their last game,
but they played horrible. That's an angle I don't bet
into normally, So I'm gonna stay away likely from that game.
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But if a gun was held to my head, I
would take the points with the New York Giants, the
Vikings and the Bears. Oh my three and two, both
of them. With the Vikings, I'm just going to stay
off of this team right now. With the Bears, I'm
looking to play the overs. I don't know about the sides.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Art Yeah, Minnesota. I don't really have a feel on
the team. Their quarterback situations up in the air. They
would be a stay away from me. Listen, I took
the Bears on Monday night against Washington. I think the
Bears have done nothing but trend in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They were rowing two. Now they're three and two.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Every week Caleb gets better and Johnson flexes his muscles
as a coach.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I love the Bears moving forward.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You know it was a nice win, but you know,
Washington shot themselves in a foot with three turnovers in
that game there, so it wasn't exactly an impressive win.
But you got to win the games regardless, right, and
they've done that. I still like the Minnesota defense. I
think the Minnesota defense is going to win them some
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games they probably shouldn't, so I think Minnesota pick your
spots is good to go. I just too volatile with
the Bears for me to think that there's any value
with them moving forward.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Money coming in right now. On New Orleans just had
a four and a half pop up. Is that in
line with what you're seeing art on this on this
game we had we do have a minus six stoll
Way out there. What's where's the money on this game?
Out of curiosity?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I think I've said this every week, they bet
the Saints every week. Yeah, it feels like there's Saint
money every week. There was Saint money last week against
New England, against the Giants. I mean that bill spread
which they covered, went all the way down before kickoff.
It feels like the Saints get love in the market
every week and there's no difference this week.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, but not but nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But but you look how many fives the books are
putting up here, Art, We got fives all over the board.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's like dead zone area.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You want nothing that the books want nothing to do
with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. You want nothing to do with
New Orleans and chicag There's fives all over the board here, Art.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean that you're right the dead zone number.
And sometimes that happens because that's just where the numbers
is gonna settle and you don't really get either side
that a big position has been taken on, so you
can't move off those dead numbers sometimes.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I mean, I know, we.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Had the Saints's high at five and a half and
now sitting at four and a half, So we're starting
to trend that way.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
But I mean we'll never get to three or three.
It's never gonna happen. Yeah, No, you're gonna be in
that dead zone.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
All right, let's keep moving New Orleans. We've already spoken
about them briefly. I'm not going anywhere near this team.
I cannot see myself betting on New Orleans this year.
Where are you at?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I still think New Orleans, despite how frisky they've been,
still one of the worst teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I don't want to put money on them.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I like them, Rdala. There will be value on them
on a week to.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Week basis because of exactly that sentiment. The public is
never gonna bet on New Orleans, Art, am I right?
So that means chances are they haven't quit, they're playing time.
It wasn't like on New England random out of the
building last game. So I think there is some value
looking to back New Orleans in spots moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And the Cardinals, I'm gonna wait and see approach right now.
So much turmoil in Arizona. I wish I could tell you,
but I'm just gonna move on Art.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, the turmoil makes me want to fade them. Even
if Murray is their quarterback. I never liked him, and
I'm not sure about the coach. I do not like
the Cardinals and their division stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, Joe, bad the worst.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You know, what does it say when Jacoby Brissett comes
in and lights a team up for over three hundred
yards there and puts them in a position what the
hell do you need Kyler Murray for? That contract? By
the way, becomes a lot easier to unload next year
after this season is over. It would not shock me
if the reset button is hit. Here, there we go.
That's made or not made?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Art?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What else you got? And then we're gonna move on
to the next segments of the show.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, not much listen, I mean, you know, normal stuff.
WESK come down, check us out. I know you won't
be here, you know, the show tomorrow, pres but hey,
we'll still have a lot of good information to give out.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Wonderful stuff. Art to Caesar, everyone awesome, Joe, Let's keep
the show moving. We're going onto the clock two minute
segments each before we do that, So business, I got
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What do you got going anything?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Big? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I just posted it, Pres, I was, I was going
back and forth with some of the data and information.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I just got.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I have a college football five percent best bet up
and ready to go for Saturday. It is the biggest
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Speaker 1 (15:03):
There we go, Okay, Joe que the clock two minutes
each NFL best bets.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I will go first.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So one best bet and we're gonna go to the under.
In the Minnesota Philadelphia game forty three and a half.
I understand this game is indoors.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I understand Philadelphia is getting a lot of bad publicity.
If you will or mojo or not passing the ball much,
it doesn't matter. Both defenses are good Minnesota's is better.
I recognize Philadelphia is missing their edge rusher, but I
think Minnesota is gonna play this game close to the
vest like they have all year. I think they're gonna
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run the ball, slow this game down or crawl. We
know Philadelphia is a run first team. I think even
if there are touchdowns on the board, they're gonna be
seven to eight minute drives. Don't overthink this play of
forty three and a half is too high. Take under
the total of Philadelphia and Minnesota. What do you got, Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Ooh, all right, I'm gonna keep it simple. Here. Guess
who the Chiefs get back this week? Here? Oh yeah,
another weapon.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Guess who has one of the best offenses in the
NFL firing on all cylinders?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It is the Kansas City Chiefs, who will have no
problem dismissing the Raiders rather quickly. Now, I know the
Raiders in past years have played them tough, and that
has absolutely what's the word I'm looking for, as our
good friend Dave Charpin used toy squad douche to do
with whether or not they are going to stay within
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this number?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Why?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Because Gino Smith is the damn quarterback of the Raiders.
They will not be able to run the ball. Gino
Smith will turn the damn ball over. And I promise
you the Chiefs are pissed off just enough there, Prez
to want to continue to make statements here. I think
having Rice back in that lineup, the sky is the
limit here for the Chiefs. And yes, I will be
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backing them here at home against the Raid and I
have it as a two touchdown win.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I got no problem laying the eleven eleven and a
half at this point. There we go.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
CFB college football bats Q the clock, let's go. I
am looking at playing Ole Miss plus a touchdown, Joe.
The Rebels upset Georgia last season at home, and they
were able to use that game as a springboard into
the team we currently see. And this is a good team.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Maybe last week.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Was a little bit of a look ahead trap game
spot they looked all their backup QB Chablis did not
look great, but that doesn't matter. This team's going to
come in Razor focused on this road game to Georgia.
On top of that, I don't believe in this Georgia
team as much as most do. They're they're they're not
playing very consistent right now to be favored by over
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a touchdown. There's way too many points here, take Ole
miss plus the seven regardless of the revenge spot of Georgia, Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I agree with you there, Prez.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Not the Georgia, not your mama's Georgia teams at all,
that is for sure there, All right, Pres, I'm gonna
go out west, and I am sorry this number was
a little light to me.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It wouldn't shock me if this number continues to rise.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
And that is Cal laying nine and a half ten
points here against who else but Bill Belichick and North Carolina.
And it's not that North Carolina is just getting their
ass handed to them. It's by how much here, Pres,
thirty two points against TCU, I believe it was twenty
five against UCF, twenty eight against They are getting the
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absolute doors blown off of them. And while listen, Cal
isn't exactly in the caliber of a couple of those teams,
the reality is a flight across country here. Late start
all the reports about Belichick leaving the program, not leaving
the program, There is nothing and to be excited about.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
If you are North Carolina. I think the.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Number is a little light. I love the freshman QB
from Cal. I think this has got route written all
over at present.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's the way I'm looking here. With Cal over North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
There we go, Joe, Let's keep it moving. NHL Rundown.
There's four games on the board. Ottawa is playing Buffalo.
Ottawa just lost Brady Kachuk. I think they're gonna play
well tonight. I don't like the spot here though Buffalo.
The press in Buffalo is outrageous. It feels like the
sky is falling. This team is in dire need of
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a win. Ottawa will play well, Buffalo will try win.
We're gonna take the under in this game. I'd like
to take Buffalo, but I don't think I can get there.
We're gonna go with under six. Florida playing Detroit. We're
gonna stick to the plan. We're gonna go with under
six in this game as well. Detroit's not going to
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be a high scoring team this year, and I think
they're going to play a tight checking game. And Florida
is going to be a low scoring team this year.
I understand we lost the last Florida under with two
empty netters, but it was two to one with six
to go in the game. It was the right call.
We're going right back to the well, take the under six.
Calgary is playing Utah. We're going to stick to the
under in this game as well. Calgary is going to
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play be an under team all year, so is Utah.
The line is six. I think this is going to
be maybe the lowest scoring game on the board. And Joe,
Chicago is playing Saint Louis and you won't believe this,
but we're going to go to the under as well.
So we're going to take the under in all four games.
And I'm going to throw in the under on the
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Grand Salami at sixty and a half goals. So all
four unders and the under the Grand Salami. Joe, you
got thirty seconds to talk baseball.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Well, beg I mean you guys know what it is there.
I can tell you it is right now. My only
suggestion would be if you have not bet the Dodgers
to win it all. I saw them this morning, pres,
right around minus one sixty five. If you haven't noticed
that starting pitching of the Dodgers is out of control.
And by the way, Pres, going back to September first,
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they've played one hundred and one games. Do you know
how many hits they've given up since September first? And
thirty three games and one hundred of bats. Yeah, less
than three a game.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Pres.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
That is what we're talking about with starting pitching, pure domination,
historically good. And I'm sorry it's at minus one sixty five.
If you weren't a believer, now's your chance to be
a believer.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Pres.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
There we go, Joe, we got very little the mail bag,
so let me just tell everybody again.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
All right, I have a question. I got a quite
right that.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Arius five to six wants to know, Pres, how do
I get one of those WT sweatshirts you've been rocking here?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
How does that work? I have no idea how you
get one?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So I have no idea either, But I'll tell you
what I mean, Kelly said one Joe, And right, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There you know that I have no idea, Arius, I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I can look at it, but I will look into
it and come up with an answer.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes, Joe, I'm out. You don't have to deal with
me for the next two days.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh, why what's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm going to the Canadian Poker Championships up in Montreal's
five hour drive. I'm leaving shortly. I'll make it there
in time to watch the Blue Jay game or my
hotel room. So I'm happy about that. I'm organizing it
so i can get there with it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So who is here tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know who's here, Brian Power you twat.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, dumpster It's going to be an absolute dumpster fire.
Appreciate that though, pres honestly, thanks taking time, taking time
coming back.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You got it, my brother. Lots of love everybody. I'll
see you. I'll see you on Monday. Joe will see
you tomorrow. Take care of yourself and let's all win
together
Welcome everybody to the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.
We got a ton of betting information coming your way.
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Art the Caesar Joveniary joining us. We're gonna talk NFL,
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Joe swimmingly? Going swimmingly? Swimming?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, swimmingly there as a verb. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Art?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm doing great, excellent.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you going swimming as well?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's a little cold in Vegas to go swimming?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is as well. Here I'm heading to Montreal today.
Brian Power hosting tomorrow. Let's get into it. Let's start
with where the money is going? A sportsbook update from
the Westgate.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Art.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You want to talk NFL Rams and Jags are playing
in London, Dolphins and Browns and Eagles and Vikings.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, absolutely, so that that's a pretty good London game.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Rights the Jags two obviously winning teams. You know that
was its highest three and a half with Jacksonville and
now it's Rams minus three. So we've seen a little
bit of early Jacksonville money come in THEREAMI Miami and Cleveland,
Miami and Cleveland, a game we kind of touched on yesterday.
This was in look Ahead Spots Miami minus one and
(01:20):
a half. We reopened Cleveland minus one and a half.
Now it's up to Cleveland minus three. So we've taken
a good amount of Cleveland money here to get us
to that key number of three. You know, obviously when
you get to key numbers in the NFL, something is
pushing it that way. Obviously, the market is moving that way,
and nobody is betting Miami, so that's what's gonna get
(01:43):
you there. And then Eagles Vikings, which is a really
good game as well.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know, we.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Reopened Eagles minus one and a half. Now we're Eagles
minus two. I've said I saw some two and a
half earlier in the week. It's kind of been going
back and forth on that game. That game has seemed
pretty good two way action. And Minnesota is also in
that teaser range. I think they will be a team
that people want to tease this week.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's yeah, I mean, no, you're talking about no Miami
love in the marketplace at all, right, but it is
there going to be any value at some point we
think in the year. I mean, the Browns and the
Jets's favorites is kind of mind blowing to me, aren't that?
That's how we started the week off?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, Joe, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think eventually there will be people and there might
be a group here that talks themselves into Miami plus
three because, like I said, it was one and a
half on a reopen, on a look ahead, Miami was
the one and a half point favorite. So now what
you're getting four and a half points of value you
are on that key.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Number of three.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So I do think there will be some I mean,
I'd be shocked if we go any higher. I think
the only way to do the only way for that
line to go is to come back down with someone
taking Miami.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I think anybody who knows how to handicap that game
I should get a job over where you talk dot
com Franks.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Would you like the Jets?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh yeah, I like the Jets. Okay, College football, Penn
State with a new coach, IOWA, UNLV, Boise State, usc
AT Notrre Dame. Where's the money going?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, the Penn State game is fascinating. That look aheadline
over the summer was Penn State minus eleven and a half.
Now you're Iowa minus three. Obviously, it's all fam apart
for Penn State. They're taking Iowa. They're laying the points
with Iowa. They're taking them on the money line now
very low. Total was thirty eight and a half. It
(03:50):
got bet up to forty. We're now thirty nine and
a half. So a little bit of over money there.
UNLV Boise, which is going to be very popular in
town because UNLV's still on defeated, still trying to make
a move here for the playoff, but they are a big,
big dog here.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
We open eleven, we're not twelve. I mean, Boise money
has floated.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean you and lv's had a really nice season,
but they're kind of stepping up here. I don't really
know defensively they can hold up against Boise, not that
it's a vintage Boise team, but you know, you and
v's gonna step up in class here. And it's on
the road and then USC Notre Dame, which is a
very big game as well. We reopened Notre Dame at nine,
it's now nine and a half. We've also seen over money.
(04:33):
It was sixty one, now sixty two on that game.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I'm curious because We're always going to see Notre Dame.
Public money come in towards towards kickoff, right, is this
get today? It's a de facto elimination game for USC.
I don't know that USC will be in the conversation
for you know, for playoffs. If you know, losing to
Illinois was awful, but now if you touple in with
(04:59):
a bad lost the Notre Dame, it's gonna be hard
to come by. Is this thing gonna hit double digits?
You think by the time we get the kickoff it could?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And I mean let's be on at show.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean Notre Dame can't have a third loss, so
I mean they lose their I understand their losses are
Miami and A and m to top five teams, but
they can't lose The USC have three losses that think
they're getting in. They don't have anyone else on their
schedule that would help them. I understand it's Notre Dame,
but yeah, I think with the public money that comes in,
(05:28):
we probably could get there. I mean our look aheadline,
like Game of the yearline on this was eleven and
a half on Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So obviously we're down on that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think the interesting thing is gonna be do they
keep going up on this total?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know, how high does the total get?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Because I think the public's gonna bet the over in
the game as well.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
All Right, the Caesar and Joan are you're watching the
best betting show ever? Guys, hit that like button, subscribe
to our channel, make sure to comment. Brian Power hosting
tomorrow should be a great show. Check that out. We
got our parlay of the day, our fade or not.
We're gonna go down the last place teams in the NFC,
and we've got NFL bets, College football bets, and the
(06:10):
NHL rundown. Let's get to the well before we get
to the part of the day baseball and hockey. Are
you seeing or hearing anything out there? Maybe an NBA
future bet, a.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Little bit of Blue Jay love this morning. There was
some money there that we took. Once again, we're dealing
a ten cent line, so we're gonna be a little
bit more generous sometimes on the dog. So people are
gonna come in and say, hey, let's take the best
price on the Blue Jays. They have it over at
the Super Bowl. NHL really not much to speak of
with the four games, there really wasn't much movement for
(06:40):
US overnight NBA. I don't want to just throw anything
rand about. I know NBA starts next week, and I
think I'll be able to hit on some of those
futures with you know, better information next week. But I'll
definitely get something together for that awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, parlay of the day, my first leg, my leg
won yesterday. I'm going with the under six. Yes, there
are sixes out there in the Chicago Saint Louis hockey game.
What do you got, Art.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Pres I'm gonna make you happy. I think your team
wins tonight. I'm gonna take the Blue Jays at plus
money and Joe.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know, last night in college football, every road door
either at one outright or covered. But now we've got
a couple of road favorites that I just don't get here.
I'm gonna take Jacksonville State plus the field goal tonight.
I don't see a whole hell of a lot of
difference between Delaware and Jacksonville State.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There we go, that's our parlay of the day. Let's
keep the show moving along. Let's get to our fade
or not. NFC Conference last place teams. We'll start with
the New York Giants. This is a bet on team
of me moving forward. I feel like from an emotional
perspective and emojo perspective, this team is kind of you know,
maybe the sun will come out tomorrow. The bottom line is,
(08:00):
they've had many years of hell, and I feel like
they're going to play a little looser. I like them
this week. I like them moving forward, aren't I agree?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Press?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I like them this week. I like them moving forward.
There's even talks about them going out and getting a
receiver for Dark to kind of help with his you know,
growth process here, not even so much to make the playoffs,
just so hey, we need to keep growing this kid.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's go trade for a receiver. I like the Giants, Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, there's nothing not to like.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
They're heading in the right direction, and they've you know,
overtaken the Jets in the New York market. They're not
they don't suck nearly as bad anymore. But that schedule
doesn't get easier either, Art, I mean, Denver is not
going to be easy as you keep going down the list.
You know, my my worry here, guys, I don't know
pres you worried about this being one of those trendy dogs,
like the Giants, just being that team that everyone is
(08:48):
in love with now because the schedule is brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and you know, I'm only looking against the spread,
so I really don't care how many games they win,
so against the spread schedule doesn't worry me. I'm not
going to get to the window this week on the Giants, Joe.
I like them this week, but like the spot for Denver,
and I mean I do like the spot with Denver.
(09:14):
It's one of those angles where I really like to
play on good teams that won their last game but
played really bad. And that's what Denver is, right. Denver
is a decently good team. They won their last game,
but they played horrible. That's an angle I don't bet
into normally, So I'm gonna stay away likely from that game.
(09:35):
But if a gun was held to my head, I
would take the points with the New York Giants, the
Vikings and the Bears. Oh my three and two, both
of them. With the Vikings, I'm just going to stay
off of this team right now. With the Bears, I'm
looking to play the overs. I don't know about the sides.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Art Yeah, Minnesota. I don't really have a feel on
the team. Their quarterback situations up in the air. They
would be a stay away from me. Listen, I took
the Bears on Monday night against Washington. I think the
Bears have done nothing but trend in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They were rowing two. Now they're three and two.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Every week Caleb gets better and Johnson flexes his muscles
as a coach.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I love the Bears moving forward.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You know it was a nice win, but you know,
Washington shot themselves in a foot with three turnovers in
that game there, so it wasn't exactly an impressive win.
But you got to win the games regardless, right, and
they've done that. I still like the Minnesota defense. I
think the Minnesota defense is going to win them some
(10:38):
games they probably shouldn't, so I think Minnesota pick your
spots is good to go. I just too volatile with
the Bears for me to think that there's any value
with them moving forward.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Money coming in right now. On New Orleans just had
a four and a half pop up. Is that in
line with what you're seeing art on this on this
game we had we do have a minus six stoll
Way out there. What's where's the money on this game?
Out of curiosity?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I think I've said this every week, they bet
the Saints every week. Yeah, it feels like there's Saint
money every week. There was Saint money last week against
New England, against the Giants. I mean that bill spread
which they covered, went all the way down before kickoff.
It feels like the Saints get love in the market
every week and there's no difference this week.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, but not but nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But but you look how many fives the books are
putting up here, Art, We got fives all over the board.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's like dead zone area.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You want nothing that the books want nothing to do
with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. You want nothing to do with
New Orleans and chicag There's fives all over the board here, Art.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean that you're right the dead zone number.
And sometimes that happens because that's just where the numbers
is gonna settle and you don't really get either side
that a big position has been taken on, so you
can't move off those dead numbers sometimes.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I mean, I know, we.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Had the Saints's high at five and a half and
now sitting at four and a half, So we're starting
to trend that way.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
But I mean we'll never get to three or three.
It's never gonna happen. Yeah, No, you're gonna be in
that dead zone.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
All right, let's keep moving New Orleans. We've already spoken
about them briefly. I'm not going anywhere near this team.
I cannot see myself betting on New Orleans this year.
Where are you at?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I still think New Orleans, despite how frisky they've been,
still one of the worst teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I don't want to put money on them.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I like them, Rdala. There will be value on them
on a week to.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Week basis because of exactly that sentiment. The public is
never gonna bet on New Orleans, Art, am I right?
So that means chances are they haven't quit, they're playing time.
It wasn't like on New England random out of the
building last game. So I think there is some value
looking to back New Orleans in spots moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And the Cardinals, I'm gonna wait and see approach right now.
So much turmoil in Arizona. I wish I could tell you,
but I'm just gonna move on Art.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, the turmoil makes me want to fade them. Even
if Murray is their quarterback. I never liked him, and
I'm not sure about the coach. I do not like
the Cardinals and their division stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, Joe, bad the worst.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You know, what does it say when Jacoby Brissett comes
in and lights a team up for over three hundred
yards there and puts them in a position what the
hell do you need Kyler Murray for? That contract? By
the way, becomes a lot easier to unload next year
after this season is over. It would not shock me
if the reset button is hit. Here, there we go.
That's made or not made?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Art?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What else you got? And then we're gonna move on
to the next segments of the show.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, not much listen, I mean, you know, normal stuff.
WESK come down, check us out. I know you won't
be here, you know, the show tomorrow, pres but hey,
we'll still have a lot of good information to give out.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Wonderful stuff. Art to Caesar, everyone awesome, Joe, Let's keep
the show moving. We're going onto the clock two minute
segments each before we do that, So business, I got
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Speaker 2 (14:36):
Big? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I just posted it, Pres, I was, I was going
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Speaker 2 (14:43):
I just got.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I have a college football five percent best bet up
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Speaker 1 (15:03):
There we go, Okay, Joe que the clock two minutes
each NFL best bets.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I will go first.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So one best bet and we're gonna go to the under.
In the Minnesota Philadelphia game forty three and a half.
I understand this game is indoors.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I understand Philadelphia is getting a lot of bad publicity.
If you will or mojo or not passing the ball much,
it doesn't matter. Both defenses are good Minnesota's is better.
I recognize Philadelphia is missing their edge rusher, but I
think Minnesota is gonna play this game close to the
vest like they have all year. I think they're gonna
(15:40):
run the ball, slow this game down or crawl. We
know Philadelphia is a run first team. I think even
if there are touchdowns on the board, they're gonna be
seven to eight minute drives. Don't overthink this play of
forty three and a half is too high. Take under
the total of Philadelphia and Minnesota. What do you got, Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Ooh, all right, I'm gonna keep it simple. Here. Guess
who the Chiefs get back this week? Here? Oh yeah,
another weapon.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Guess who has one of the best offenses in the
NFL firing on all cylinders?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It is the Kansas City Chiefs, who will have no
problem dismissing the Raiders rather quickly. Now, I know the
Raiders in past years have played them tough, and that
has absolutely what's the word I'm looking for, as our
good friend Dave Charpin used toy squad douche to do
with whether or not they are going to stay within
(16:33):
this number?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Why?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Because Gino Smith is the damn quarterback of the Raiders.
They will not be able to run the ball. Gino
Smith will turn the damn ball over. And I promise
you the Chiefs are pissed off just enough there, Prez
to want to continue to make statements here. I think
having Rice back in that lineup, the sky is the
limit here for the Chiefs. And yes, I will be
(16:56):
backing them here at home against the Raid and I
have it as a two touchdown win.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I got no problem laying the eleven eleven and a
half at this point. There we go.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
CFB college football bats Q the clock, let's go. I
am looking at playing Ole Miss plus a touchdown, Joe.
The Rebels upset Georgia last season at home, and they
were able to use that game as a springboard into
the team we currently see. And this is a good team.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Maybe last week.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Was a little bit of a look ahead trap game
spot they looked all their backup QB Chablis did not
look great, but that doesn't matter. This team's going to
come in Razor focused on this road game to Georgia.
On top of that, I don't believe in this Georgia
team as much as most do. They're they're they're not
playing very consistent right now to be favored by over
(17:50):
a touchdown. There's way too many points here, take Ole
miss plus the seven regardless of the revenge spot of Georgia, Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I agree with you there, Prez.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Not the Georgia, not your mama's Georgia teams at all,
that is for sure there, All right, Pres, I'm gonna
go out west, and I am sorry this number was
a little light to me.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It wouldn't shock me if this number continues to rise.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
And that is Cal laying nine and a half ten
points here against who else but Bill Belichick and North Carolina.
And it's not that North Carolina is just getting their
ass handed to them. It's by how much here, Pres,
thirty two points against TCU, I believe it was twenty
five against UCF, twenty eight against They are getting the
(18:39):
absolute doors blown off of them. And while listen, Cal
isn't exactly in the caliber of a couple of those teams,
the reality is a flight across country here. Late start
all the reports about Belichick leaving the program, not leaving
the program, There is nothing and to be excited about.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
If you are North Carolina. I think the.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Number is a little light. I love the freshman QB
from Cal. I think this has got route written all
over at present.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's the way I'm looking here. With Cal over North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
There we go, Joe, Let's keep it moving. NHL Rundown.
There's four games on the board. Ottawa is playing Buffalo.
Ottawa just lost Brady Kachuk. I think they're gonna play
well tonight. I don't like the spot here though Buffalo.
The press in Buffalo is outrageous. It feels like the
sky is falling. This team is in dire need of
(19:39):
a win. Ottawa will play well, Buffalo will try win.
We're gonna take the under in this game. I'd like
to take Buffalo, but I don't think I can get there.
We're gonna go with under six. Florida playing Detroit. We're
gonna stick to the plan. We're gonna go with under
six in this game as well. Detroit's not going to
(20:00):
be a high scoring team this year, and I think
they're going to play a tight checking game. And Florida
is going to be a low scoring team this year.
I understand we lost the last Florida under with two
empty netters, but it was two to one with six
to go in the game. It was the right call.
We're going right back to the well, take the under six.
Calgary is playing Utah. We're going to stick to the
under in this game as well. Calgary is going to
(20:23):
play be an under team all year, so is Utah.
The line is six. I think this is going to
be maybe the lowest scoring game on the board. And Joe,
Chicago is playing Saint Louis and you won't believe this,
but we're going to go to the under as well.
So we're going to take the under in all four games.
And I'm going to throw in the under on the
(20:44):
Grand Salami at sixty and a half goals. So all
four unders and the under the Grand Salami. Joe, you
got thirty seconds to talk baseball.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Well, beg I mean you guys know what it is there.
I can tell you it is right now. My only
suggestion would be if you have not bet the Dodgers
to win it all. I saw them this morning, pres,
right around minus one sixty five. If you haven't noticed
that starting pitching of the Dodgers is out of control.
And by the way, Pres, going back to September first,
(21:17):
they've played one hundred and one games. Do you know
how many hits they've given up since September first? And
thirty three games and one hundred of bats. Yeah, less
than three a game.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Pres.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
That is what we're talking about with starting pitching, pure domination,
historically good. And I'm sorry it's at minus one sixty five.
If you weren't a believer, now's your chance to be
a believer.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Pres.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
There we go, Joe, we got very little the mail bag,
so let me just tell everybody again.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
All right, I have a question. I got a quite
right that.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Arius five to six wants to know, Pres, how do
I get one of those WT sweatshirts you've been rocking here?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
How does that work? I have no idea how you
get one?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So I have no idea either, But I'll tell you
what I mean, Kelly said one Joe, And right, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There you know that I have no idea, Arius, I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I can look at it, but I will look into
it and come up with an answer.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes, Joe, I'm out. You don't have to deal with
me for the next two days.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh, why what's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm going to the Canadian Poker Championships up in Montreal's
five hour drive. I'm leaving shortly. I'll make it there
in time to watch the Blue Jay game or my
hotel room. So I'm happy about that. I'm organizing it
so i can get there with it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So who is here tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know who's here, Brian Power you twat.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, dumpster It's going to be an absolute dumpster fire.
Appreciate that though, pres honestly, thanks taking time, taking time
coming back.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You got it, my brother. Lots of love everybody. I'll
see you. I'll see you on Monday. Joe will see
you tomorrow. Take care of yourself and let's all win
together
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