October 28, 2025 • 40 mins
On today's episode, Prez, Joe and Art discuss how the books made out in NFL Week 8, money moves in both college football and NFL, early week football predictions, NBA, NHL and more!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
01:53 HOW DID THE BOOKS DO IN NFL WK8?
04:43 WHERE'S THE EARLY MONEY GOING NFL?
08:33 HOW DID THE BOOKS DO IN CFB WK9?
10:18 WHERE'S THE EARLY MONEY GOING CFB?
13:27 PARLAY OF THE DAY
16:05 FADE OR NOT? NFL DIVISION LEADERS
23:24 TONIGHT'S CFB LINE MOVES | MLB LINE MOVES
27:39 PREZ CFB EARLY BET WK 10
28:50 JOE CFB EARLY BET WK 10
29:50 PREZ NFL EARLY BET WK 9
31:12 JOE NFL EARLY BET WK 9
32:15 NHL RUNDOWN
34:19 NBA RUNDOWN
36:29 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS
00:00 INTRODUCTION
01:53 HOW DID THE BOOKS DO IN NFL WK8?
04:43 WHERE'S THE EARLY MONEY GOING NFL?
08:33 HOW DID THE BOOKS DO IN CFB WK9?
10:18 WHERE'S THE EARLY MONEY GOING CFB?
13:27 PARLAY OF THE DAY
16:05 FADE OR NOT? NFL DIVISION LEADERS
23:24 TONIGHT'S CFB LINE MOVES | MLB LINE MOVES
27:39 PREZ CFB EARLY BET WK 10
28:50 JOE CFB EARLY BET WK 10
29:50 PREZ NFL EARLY BET WK 9
31:12 JOE NFL EARLY BET WK 9
32:15 NHL RUNDOWN
34:19 NBA RUNDOWN
36:29 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Blue Jayson, the Dodgers, Tonight Frozen Frenzy, every hockey game,
every hockey team on the planet playing tonight, NBA tons
to talk about. You're watching the best betting show ever.
We're here to make you, guys money. That's what the
show is about. Sports is our canvas. Joe and Airy
(00:20):
Art the Caesar. There are artists. How are you guys tired? Yesh,
me too, Joe. I made it to I made it
to three am watching that game. Horrible ending for Blue
Jay fans, but we cashed another baseball bet thirteen and
three run. No wonder the Westgate doesn't take my action art.
(00:44):
Go go with that art, Go go with it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Listen, we know you had Dodgers run line. You were
looking for that to run all you know all about you.
Now you did have the over. I'll give you that,
so God bless you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I had over four four and half four and a
half runs team total, La Dodgers. How did a parlay go? Boys?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's a good question. How did all parlay go?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Joe? Orlando on the money line? I think was your
your leg?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes? I had no No, I didn't have Orlando.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Did I?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
God, we don't even remember we remember we did Oh right, good,
That's all it matters.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I had no idea. Joe had people ask all the time, press,
what's the parlay of the day record, what's your record
in the NHL rundown? What's your record on wk W radio,
what's your record on c K and Y.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We had Brian Power on the show yesterday, so chances
are we I just assume we'd lose.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So that was the end of that. So I'm just
saying that's you know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, Mark the Caesar is back with us. Now hit
the like button, everybody, let's get into this art. NFL.
I think we had almost every favorite win, almost every
game went over. I'm guessing that did not bode well
with the books, but hey, who knows. Maybe you guys
kicked ass. How did the books do an NFL?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, It's funny. I've come on here the last couple
of weeks and said we've lost to the NFL, and
you would have thought, right with what was it, eleven
and two the favorites were and the average margin to
victory was like twenty points, you would think, oh man,
we got slaughtered in the NFL again. But the two
outright dogs that won Miami and the Jets. Those were
(02:30):
like the best case scenarios for us, So we actually
won money Sunday. It was really nice to turn a
profit on a day where I'm gonna assume most books
got slaughtered because of like what I said, that record
Denver was actually pretty good for us as well. Like
I said, we always take cowboy money. Now, the Monday
(02:50):
night result wasn't that great because obviously there were plenty
of things running into the Chiefs on teasers, on moneyline parlays,
even on just parlay cards with the Chiefs minus ten
and a half. So Monday night is great, but Sunday
really good result.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
What about some of those other games we talked to
all week long, our teams, like you know, Carolina getting
all that money last week against you know, Buffalo, New
Orleans was another one that got a ton of money
with the you know, you talked about those games all
week long. They kept popping up here on where's the
(03:26):
money going here? How did the books ultimately do with those?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah? I mean, like I said, the other results, like
when you just look at like Buffalo was not good
because you know, there was that stream of Carolina early money.
But then you know, Buffalo gets hit on all the teasers,
all the money line parlays. You know, the Saints one
was interesting because that actually saw pretty good two way
(03:51):
after the initial Saint money, We're actually going to talk
about the Saints game for this upcoming week. I say
it every week, they bet the Saints every week and
they do. But then there was some public money on Tampa,
so kind of just balance everything out. But I'm gonna
say it again, we really got the two favorites to
lose that we needed to lose, yeah, which was Cincinnati
(04:14):
and Atlanta. Yeah. I mean, and I'm gonna tell you
right now, the Atlanta one was the biggest one. The
money tied to Atlanta parlays and teasers was no one
for us.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Who Yeah, yeah, Art, let's stay with NFL. We're gonna
come back to how you did in college football right after,
but let's stay with NFL and where the money is
going this week end? And you want to talk about
the Chargers game all over the map right now, Art,
We've got a nine and a half at one book
(04:47):
and a ten and a half at another, and tens
at about seventy of the book. Where is the Westgate
on this Chargers game, where is it going? And tell
us about the Broncos, Texans, and of course the Saints
and Rams.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, so that Charger game, like you said, it's kind
of as low as like you said, nine and a half,
it's highest ten and a half. We're in the middle
of ten. And that's because we opened nine and a
half and we took sharp money on the Chargers at
that nine and a half, so we moved to ten.
We didn't feel the full point was necessary obviously early
in the week lower limits, but we did want to
move the half point off the sharp information. Denver and Houston.
(05:29):
You know, we opened Denver as a small favorite minus one,
and now you're looking at Houston minus one and a half.
Obviously Denver is gonna miss one of the best defensive
players in the league in certain Houston at home again,
they look really good on Sunday. I know the Niners
are banged up. Houston kind of got their mojo back.
So that's why you've seen Houston now flip the a
(05:50):
one and a half point favorite. Obviously the total went
down a little bit as well. And then the Saints.
You know, we had the Rams thirteen and a half
and we took money there. Then we got to fourteen
and a half and then we took Saint money. So
now we're back in the middle. Really good two way action.
I think we felt really comfortable when we got to
(06:12):
the fourteen and a half that we would entice some
Saints bets. Obviously it's an enormous spread. You know, the
Rams are going to be a free Bengos square this
week with money line parlays all that type of stuff.
But you have seen the thirteen and a half money
and then the fourteen and a half money on that game.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Joe, I'm jumping in real quick here because I know
it's your turn, but I want to talk about the
Houston Denver with one of the things you said, and
I mean full disclosure. I'm interested in this total. So
that's this is you're helping me art you mentioned going
up going down. I'm seeing forties and a thirty nine,
(06:52):
but I'm seeing more forties. I'm also seeing ninety four
percent of the money being written on the I think
thirty nine thirty nine and a half might be the best,
the lowest total we get it. We're looking to bet over.
Do you not agree there or do you think this
might still go down more?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's interesting with when you lose one of the best
defensive players in the league, like the Broncos did, you
would think, oh man, this total is probably gonna shoot
up a little bit. But you also have to remember
that Houston defense, Yes, maybe the best unit in the league, right,
I mean, it might be the best defensive unit in
the league.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's right there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So I think you're right. Maybe we've hit the bottom
here at thirty nine and a half. It's possible, but
for us, we saw a tick down a little bit.
So you know, I can only speak you know, whenever
you give out these numbers. Oh, obviously I can only
speak to what I see at the Westgate, and that's
obviously what we've seen before. You know, when I come
(07:51):
back on Friday and we're sitting here and maybe the
totals forty one, well that's possible.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Arizona State quarterback Sam Levitt downgraded to unlikely to play.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Joe, Yeah, well, I mean I should have played last
week too.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What are you thinking here? Art for college football this week?
How did you do last week? Given it wasn't I
mean Texas game was very interesting there with the with
the crazy comeback, but it doesn't look like Arch will
be in play here this week. Vandy and Missouri was
(08:28):
also crazy. Any any big moves one way or the
other that cost the book.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Last week college football, I want to say this is
four or five straight weeks I've come on and said
we did really well on college football. College football was
another really good week. Not as good as the past two,
but a positive week. I would say the three games
that really helped us. K State was really good for us,
Cincinnati was really good for us, and the number one
game that was good for us was South Florida. That
(08:54):
was the number one game where we really cleaned up
on all Right.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
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(09:20):
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We're got our parlay of the day your way, but.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There we go. There you go, parlaying in a day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
We're gonna finish what we're doing with college first, because
there's three games that have been steamed out the ass
art early on this week and I'm still trying to
figure out what's going on here with with the second
one you're going to talk about with Michigan State and
Minnesota but.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
In Texas, Minnesota the rail bloody Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, listen, we just mentioned and you mentioned art show.
You know, Texas. We opened as a two and a
half point home favorite. Sharps took Vandy right away on that,
so we're now one and a half on the game,
and Vandy's kind of been a darling for a lot
of people who got in on them early in the season.
Now there's some people coming and maybe a little late
to the party, but Vandy now feels like every week
(10:55):
they take money, so you know Vandy is one of
those teams. The Michigan Statement Consoda game is it's fascinating, right.
I mean, you had Minnesota. We opened as high as
a five point favorite, and then Michigan State took money
at five and four. We're now Minnesota as a three
point favorite in that game. And then you mentioned the
(11:15):
Arizona State quarterback res We opened Iowa State as a
four and a half point favorite. Sharp money came in
instantly on that. It's six. Now here's the question, how
high can we get on this game? Because I think
even with the quarterback being out, if it hits seven,
they're gonna take Arizona State at seven. So do we
(11:37):
get there? We probably do, But then there's the complete
buyback on that football number of seven, So be interesting
to monitor that game for the rest of the week.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I don't get it. I don't get the whole Iowa
State a love. I don't care who's playing quarterback for
Arizona State. I had BYU against Iowa State last week,
and I think Iowa State has been overrated for I'm
the get go here. If that thing hits seven, I
would imagine the buyback.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Is gonna happen pretty pretty instantaneous.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Now, Oh, I think there's no doubt about it. And
I think you know it moving a point and a
half quickly yesterday, and you know on Monday. I always
want to say this. On Monday totals, you could see
move two two and a half points. You know, aside
to move a point is very normal. When you start
to get to one and a half two two and
a half on a side, those are the ones that
(12:29):
really stand out to you on an early Monday. Now.
I get that this has to do with a quarterback injury,
which is always going to move a number, but I
think the early side moves, when you get to the
point point and a half and higher, those are the
ones you really have to kind of circle and see
what's the apex of the number going to be? What's
the buyback? You know, we're gonna probably need to avoid
middles on those type of games, so those are always
(12:51):
really things that we want to avoid on a Saturday
because you never want to get middle done again.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Unbelievable information from art to Caesar, what's the difference between
instantly and instantaneously Joe the spelling. There we go, Mike
dropped from Joe and Airy Boys. Lots of show left.
Parlay of the day still to come to aid or not.
We're gonna look at the NFC division leaders. We're gonna
(13:19):
go through a couple of college football bets, couple of
NFL bets, every NHL game and every NBA game, and
we'll end the show with our mailbox segment Art the
Caesar parlay of the day. I'll go first, Edmonton Oilers.
Uh in regulation plus it's a pick them at art.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I like it all right. So my Rangers cannot score goals, Yes,
they can't under in their game. They just can't score
on the playoffs. So I'm going under six minus one
twenty in their game versus Vancouver tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Nice, wait, you got a six on that game. That's incredible. Okay,
Oh yeah, okay, I I love that bet. I just
I love that bet. Thank you. I thought it was
almost all five and a half's Joe?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Interesting?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Uh, Miami heat on the money line here tonight at
home against Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There we go, stylish shirt, you got there going Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh, thank you very much, Travis, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You're going to tell us what brand the damn shirt is?
Who you think you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
To take it? Well you because I know that was
going to be the next thing is that? I thought?
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
VIORI like what? Yes? I know that was coming. So
that was he's on the rings.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, he's on the red carpet at the Emmys. Who
are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So I knew it was coming on.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I just cut that ship right off right there, and
we ended good done.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The Caesar supposedly Joe Niari is playing bass on today's show.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
No No, No, No tomorrow, Tomorrow, tomorrow. It was Wednesday.
It wasn't Tuesday. It was no listen, listen christ let
me just show you guys here, so you guys here. Okay,
it's here, Prez I got so it's that and it's
happening tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, Okay, okay, I'm gonna can we request a
song people in the comment section, request what song as
your favorite?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Somebody already wanted like another one bites the dust. I'm
told I can teach you how to play that press
in about three minutes, so we're.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We're going to go. Well, I would say, what what
songs your favorite bassline of all time? I mean, so
you know what, Joe, let's go with a flea song,
Red Hot Chili Peppers. If you're going to pull out
the bass play, I want you in diapers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
No not playing.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Okay, we're going blues. We're going all blues. We're all
Phoebe King, We're all going Albert King. We're going all blues.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, the season, you're an area. Let's keep moving, brother
fade or not made. We're talking NFC Division leaders will
start with the Philadelphia Eagles. This Philadelphia Eagles team happens
to be on a bye week for them, but moving forward,
they are a bet on team for me.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Art Yeah, I mean, you know, you've kind of been
on this where they were gonna find their mojo in
the middle of the season, and maybe they broke out
last week against my Giants, had a really nice game. Yeah, listen,
I still think Hurts is a little iffy, but I
guess when you look at the division moving forward, they're
clearly the best team. All the other teams have so
(16:39):
many problems, So yeah, I guess they probably are a
bet on team.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The Eagles are toughs man. I feel like they're heading
in the right direction. I think health is a concern
for them here, and I just think there's a few
other NFC teams were probably gonna cover here that are
our better bets long term. But I do think the
Eagles are never gonna be a value play brands from
(17:08):
here on out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't see the market adjusting and giving us a
chance any value on them.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So firstly, move the alo to fade or not fade,
And secondly, thank you to quote a very smart Orange man.
We had no value on the Tom Brady error either.
We have no value on the Patrick mahomes there are either,
and yet all they do is cover This Philadelphia team
is underrated in every facet. The Green Bay Packers guys
(17:37):
five and one. They are a huge favorite at minus
thirteen minus twelve and a half against Carolina makes total
sense to me. Their defense is excellent, their offense is
well balanced. This is a.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Bet on team.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I don't know if I can get to the window
at minus thirteen, but I gotta tell you, boys, I'd
be very surprised if they don't cover that number. Art.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm with you, Chris. I know it's an enormous number,
but Carolina's not good. I don't care a couple of
the you know, the wacky wins they've had this year.
The defense is starting a round into shape for green Bay,
which you love. I think love gets better every week.
Tucker Craft, you know how good he is. The running backs,
they got a lot of weapons, and I love the coach.
I think moving forward, green Bay definitely a bet on team.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
We said the same shit about this team after they
destroyed Detroit in game one and then they go to
Dallas as a huge favorite.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And then they ship the bed and it's a tige
in Cleveland and then Dallas where they tied the Like,
I don't know, this team is Heckle and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's just it's Jekyl and Hyde. To me, I'm a
wait and see.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They looked great against Pittsburgh, But let me ask you, guys, Art,
can they put two goddamn games together that look like
what we got against Pittsburgh Because they haven't done it yet, guys.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And to be fairy, yeah, they didn't even put two
halves together. Yeah, yeah, I mean, first half they roll,
but they if they they're getting it done in that
second Yeah, I'm I like Green Bay do.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, they're getting it done. Uh. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I mean,
I can't bet against this team. Uh. It just Baker's
doing something great. There's no wide receivers and they're still
all they do is when they play horrible and all
they do is cover. They've got to have some type
of regression. I'm concerned about the Tampa Bay team. But
(19:34):
with that said, they're going to be getting guns back.
I don't know what to do here, Art, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm with you. It's a wait and see for me. Obviously,
they've been excellent there on this by thereby this week.
They need guys back like Bucky Irving and some of
their other guys. They just need to get guys back.
But it might be you know, pick your spots with
dam Joe.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Just bet them now to win the division. I don't
care what the price is. Atlanta Raheem Mars is going
to be fired in the next four games. There is
nobody catching them in that division. It's an easy bet.
I don't know what their prop is to make the playoffs.
But they are They're an easy bet as far as
Hompkins are moving forward with Tampa.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The Seattle Seahawks and the Rams. Seattle now, Joe Art,
it came out at two and a half, it's now
three and a half on the road against Washington. This
is a team I'm gonna be looking to take unders with.
I don't think I can get to the window this week.
I'm wait and see approach on the actual team, but
(20:35):
I will look to bet on the under. The Rams
are going to crush New Orleans this week, but I
don't think they're a bet on team in a big
favorite role. I don't know if they're going to create
a lot of distance for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Art, I really like both teams. Obviously, that division is
wonderful when you throw San Francisco in there. I love
Seattle's interior play, sides of the ball. I think Donald's
good enough, obviously, the receivers maybe the best receiver in
the league, and the coach is good. Seattle I like
and I like. I mean, there's what's there not to
like about the Rams. Their coaching, quarterback are amazing. They
(21:13):
have a pass rush. I'm with your press. Maybe you
don't want to lay fourteen fourteen and a half this week,
but I think both teams have real legitimate shots to
say they could represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't know if Seattle does art, but I mean
I still think there's you know, you've still got Detroit,
Green Bay, Philly. Yeah. I don't think either of those
teams are gonna rep get to the Super Bowl, but
I would take the Rams over the Seahawks, Joe, what
are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Seattle on the road has been absolute money, uh when
under Midal here since he's taken them, and that goes
back to last year too, they have been absolutely phenomenal,
great defense, championship style defense there. They got a good
running game. Sam Donald is the question mark, but if
they don't ask him to do a whole lot, they're legit.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They can beat anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah and good, he's got good ball management, Sam Darnold
right now. So that's the credit of their coach. He's
really Trent dulfering his way down the field.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Other than that, well, he actually there's the ball though,
like that was not Trent till.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He does he does well, Trent threw the ball twenty
one times or so.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And he screen passes like you never three he didn't have,
you know, Jas said, he certainly didn't have, or like.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Flacco with the Lewis coming out of the backfield exactly Art,
What does the west Gate have to promote anything? A
special going on over there?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, just listen, you know, this is obviously an enormous
time of the year. Listen, We've got college basketball Monday,
so you know, throw another, throw another sport into the hopper,
and you know, away we go. This is a great
time to be working in sportsbook, to be betting all
that type of stuff. So you know, listen, I'll be
back tomorrow with plenty more information.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
One question before you go, one question before you go, though,
Number one, any movement tonight in these two college football games?
And what about the World Series? Are you seeing after
that craziness last night? Are you seeing anything at the
book one way? Or is everyone just backing Otani tonight?
What do you see in anything?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, the college football games really nothing to speak of.
The midweek games are just they're so tough. I mean,
they just get lost to the shuffle with so much
going on. Obviously, if there's ever anything to you know, report,
I always will do that. The world series interesting to night.
I mean, obviously the Dodgers are up to a two
dollars even higher favorite. You know your totals at eight.
(23:46):
I think a lot of people will of course come
in and back Otani tonight. They'll be the sweetener for
a lot of people's moneyline parlays today. Just throw the
Dodgers in there. Then you're gonna get the people who
lay the run line, the people lay the alternate tune
hof online. And then I think because every picture was
used and it was a forty hour game last night,
I think you're going to see a lot of people
(24:07):
coming and.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Bet the over.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I think we gonna get a lot of public over
money just just thinking that way. And that's that's first
first five, that's team totals, that's game. I think you're
going to see a lot of that tonight with the total.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I agree, well, said Art Caesar. Get out of here, brother,
thanks for doing this Joberary. It's time to take care
of some business.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh you love your business, damn it.
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Speaker 4 (25:54):
Big night tonight Frez NBA play coming your way? I
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Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know me.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I love these early week college football matchups here and
Art said it not a lot of action on them
from a book perspective, which means, yeah, we can get
some real value if you follow the Sunbelt in Conference USA,
and I think there's some good value here tonight.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
In one of those plays, it's five dollars over at
the page.
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But we're crushing it in NFL College football NBA. Now
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Speaker 1 (26:41):
There we go, Jo Narry, Lawrence Presban, You're watching the
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channel and make sure to comment. Joe I auditioned for
The Price Is Right Canada three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's a Canada version of Price Is Right? Yeah, and
who's with that? Drew Carrey?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I have no freaking clues, but I've made it
to the next round. I got to do a video
audition later today. So if anyone has any ideas on
my crazy colural video audition for The Price Is Right
Canada that I have to tape today, please send it
in why are you rolling your eyes, Joe? How much
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fun with that?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It'd have been much more impressed if you got like
fear Factor Canadian edition.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That would have been that I would fly up to watch.
That would be a.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Gookay college football early bets. Let's go que the clock
two minutes each. I will begin Washington State minus three
against Oregon State. It's a new error for this Washington
State Cougars team, and it's a new era for Oregon State.
They've just fired their coach. Well, not just but a
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few weeks ago. The Cougar's recently battle ranked teams down
to the wire on the road, they beat macintender Toledo.
New coach Jimmy Rodgers has kept WSU in the mix
for a Bowl invite. No one saw that coming. They
got a balanced offense. Their run and pass are both
exactly two hundred and fifty times. They've run two hundred
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and fifty four times, they've passed two hundred and fifty
four times. They've a dual threat playmaker at QB. None
of this is happening for the Beavers. The Beavers are
a disaster. Oh and seven start can't get out of
their own way. Washington State minus three. That's short. I
think they win this game by between seven and thirteen.
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Take the Washington State Cougars minus three against the Oregon
State Beavers and we'll all catch that one together.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Joe, I love that one, Prez.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Actually to tell you the truth, because Oregon State is
a nightmayor. But we do have a game coming up
here this week with the Academies, Press, Army and Air
Force are getting ready to go at it now. These
two teams have been anything but ordinary when it comes
to totals. Right used to be where you just go
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ahead and hit the under, not making there was what
it is when the academies face one another. It's under
problem is both of these teams no longer are under teams.
They're over teams, mostly because Air Forces defense is hot trash.
They can't stop anybody, so they give up a million points.
The line opened up right around fifty pres. I think
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the total is in this one. I think it's starting
to tick down a little bit, but I'm not falling
for it. I think we're getting points in this one.
So I am gonna go against the Green and go
over in the Service Academy Army versus Air Force.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
This weekend, Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Dari nf Al, I'm gonna look at We spoke about
this a little earlier, Denver playing Houston. I'm very interested
in the total here, Joe, and I think this might
be a client play. I'm looking at taking the over.
I understand that the Houston defense has played outstanding of late.
They allowed Rand to put up fifteen Rand totally injured team.
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Fifteen feels more like twenty one twenty two to me.
Seattle put up twenty seven on them, but before that
it was zero seventeen twenty fourteen. They really have a
great defensive unit, and Denver's defensive unit, although I think
is overrated, is still pretty rock solid. They did allow
Dallas to put up twenty four in the Giants thirty two,
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and they have lot lost. Patrick's certain With all that said, Joe,
this is more of a play on the play action
pass on or Denver and Houston. I think this game
goes over the total. I think this is a very
short number. Frankly, Denver's put up forty four and thirty
three in their last two games. Houston's put up twenty
six nineteen forty four and twenty six. Both these offenses
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are in rhythm right now. Finally, both of them are
making long plays. This total is too short, Joe, I
think this goes over. It is one of my favorite
totals of the week.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
You're gonna go up and over in that one and present.
I cannot argue with that in the least bit.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Bucks. What I can argue is that I don't think
we're going to get a ton of points, or rather
a lack of points. When it comes to the Bengals
taking on the Bears.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Here, that opened up at forty seven and a half,
it's now up to fifty two pres. Fifty two and
a half, and boy to the Bengals defense suck, and
boy is the Bears defense all banged up. This is
a perfect opportunity for both of these teams offensively to
light up the scoreboard. We just saw the Bengals drop
over sixty total points against the lowly Jets. Now the
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Jets can drop almost forty points on the Bengals defense.
I think the Chicago Bears can get theirs as well.
So I got no problem back in the over even
at this price, Pres, I think that's the way to look,
the only way to look with Bengals and Bears.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Joe.
I agree with you as well, and I don't like
to agree with you on a whole NHL rundown. It's
frozen frenzy. Every single team on the board. I got
two minutes. Let's go. Pittsburgh playing Philadelphia. I'm looking to
take the over. I'm looking to take the over in
every single game Pittsburgh's involved in. I lean on Philadelphia
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and regulation minus one twenty Toronto against Calgary. I like
Toronto in regulation here. I like them a lot, and
I like Calgary under team total Vegas Carolina. I'm looking
to bet the under six in this game Columbus and Buffalo.
If you can find a six, go over. I do
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like over six and a half as well, not as much.
It's gonna be a high scoring game. Florida playing Anaheim.
I like Anaheim team total under in this game. New
York Islanders playing Boston, Joe, this is not last year's
New York Islanders team. This is a team that is scoring.
I like the over six in the New York Islanders
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Boston game. I do not like over six and a half,
So don't bet a it. Well, you can get a
six and a half. I like Nashville against Tampa Bay Joe,
nice plus one forty dog for you. Minnesota playing Pitts Winnipeg.
I like under the total of six. I like that
a lot. Detroit paying Saint Louis. I like over the
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total of six. There are five and a halfs out there.
You can get a five and a half on that
Detroit Saint Louis over. That's one of my favorite plays.
Dallas playing Washington. I like Dallas and minus one thirty
Ottawa playing Chicago. I like Chicago as a plus one
twenty dog. Colorado playing New Jersey Colorado in regulation short
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revenge spot. Edmonton is going to annihilate Utah and start
rolling with that said, shout out to Utah. They're playing incredible.
I like the under in the Vancouver game. I like Seattle,
and I like the over in the San Jose LA
Kings game. That's every game on the board, Joe, what
you got in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That was crazy, Prez, well done.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Not as many games in the NBA here tonight, buts
we are going to start with the seventy six ers
taking on the lowly Washington Wizards and congratulation Sixers. Joel
Embiid is back. Yeah, park his ass on the bench.
This is a much better team without him anywhere near
the court. Hence what you saw last night against the
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Orlando Magic, which we gave out to our clients in
winning fashion. Here, listen, the Wizards not good. The Sixers.
They could score enough points to help get this thing
up and over one way or the other. Speaking of
over man, you don't want to sweat out and under
with the Miami Heat and the Hornets. Miami Heat playing
at one of the fastest ten that we have seen
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in a very long time. They've scored what three hundred
and sixty some odd points in a couple of games here.
They have been on fire, but so have the Hornets here.
I think this is going to be a fun one.
The Heat are now laying five and a half six points.
That's a tad too many for a team like the
Hornets that could match them here for a little while
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point for point, But I would only look at the
over there. The Knicks and the Bucks. Knicks on the
road taking on a Milwaukee Bucks. Neither of these teams
are on the second of a back to back. They
are coming with a little bit of rest. It feels
like this is going to be whoever has the ball last.
I think the Bucks at home getting points is the
right way to look. And then the thunder who played
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last night did not cover against Dallas are back home
taking on the Kings. Keep an eye on chet Holgrim's status.
He's been questionable for the last three games. He may
sit this one out. And then, of course the Warriors
and the Clippers. This is true the AA RP game
of the week. As both teams hovering around a median
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age of about seventy five Warriors played last night, I
would imagine an under is happening in this game here.
I don't see either of these teams running up and
down the court. I'm gonna look at the under in
that one there, pres.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Joe, I love our mailback section of the show. We
get incredible comments from everybody, and I'm so appreciative of them.
Matt Bartley rights, how do you guys usually approach future
bets on a whole, Joe? I have. I make very
little future bets, almost none. I'm eight and two. I
think on future bets lifetime, but I really you know,
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I'll tell you the easiest way to look at future bets.
For me is if I actually release a future bet bet,
because I try my hardest to not make future bets.
What about you?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
To me?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Pres And this is one of the beauties of the
addictive markets, right the Calshie's and the poly markets. Press,
because that's the only place I would look to tie
up money in a future event. Why because I don't
need the outcome to be finished one way or the
other in order to make money on it. Right, If
I buy the contract at a certain price, I can
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sell it at any point until that event eventually happens,
so I.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Don't have to tie up to money.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
If I get I can always you know, if I
make money on it, I can cash it out at
any time and go someplace else. So I would only
look at future events in the predictive markets from this
point on.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Press.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's a really, really great point, Joe, A bunch of
our people, Brian Davis mentions it. A few others A
kels fade the wise guys. Please don't do that, guys.
I understand we're having a moment in time here where
maybe the wise guys didn't look so good this past
week in the NFL, or maybe last week in the NFL.
But firstly, you did not take into account how they
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did in college football. You didn't take into account how
they did in NHL or baseball. And on a whole
there's a reason they are wise guys. Don't make a
habit of fading wise guys. It's not gonna go well
in the long run, Joe.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
You can't fit. The wise guys are the bucks. The
wise guys are always on the same sides.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
As the books.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And while no, they're not going to win every week,
the reality it is you do not want to find
most of your bets on the public side. That is
not a winning proposition long term, So be very very
careful with just blanket statements the world faith the why
because they lost a couple of games this week please ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
And lastly, Brian Davis writes, pres you can't bet NFL favorites,
but you can bet the Jets. Every week they take
everyone's money except this week. Yeah, it's a really good point, Brian,
because I could be wrong here, but Joe, I think
the Jets are four and four ats, so people should
not be scared about betting the Jets.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Listen, they have been a couple of games they were competitive,
a couple of games they got absolutely blown out in,
and of course they won one. As a big dog bot,
I'll tell you this, the longer the season goes, and
we just saw it this weekend, right, Expecting bad teams
to do good things at a consistent level is absurd.
So congratulations four and four is great, But I think
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the time has come to stop playing the Saints, stop
backing the Jets. It's all gonna come crashing down here
at some.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Point, and I never do Mike Clients will never get
to play on the Saints or Carolina and the Jets.
What a show. Tomorrow we do it again, same time,
same place, Art de Caesar, myself, Joe Ranieri. Supposedly Joe's
gonna play bass for us tomorrow. We'll find out about
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that tomorrow. So stay with us, guys, help us make
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We'll see you all tomorrow. Joe, get out of here,
Bro
Blue Jayson, the Dodgers, Tonight Frozen Frenzy, every hockey game,
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Art the Caesar. There are artists. How are you guys tired? Yesh,
me too, Joe. I made it to I made it
to three am watching that game. Horrible ending for Blue
Jay fans, but we cashed another baseball bet thirteen and
three run. No wonder the Westgate doesn't take my action art.
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Go go with that art, Go go with it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Listen, we know you had Dodgers run line. You were
looking for that to run all you know all about you.
Now you did have the over. I'll give you that,
so God bless you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I had over four four and half four and a
half runs team total, La Dodgers. How did a parlay go? Boys?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's a good question. How did all parlay go?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Joe? Orlando on the money line? I think was your
your leg?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes? I had no No, I didn't have Orlando.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Did I?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
God, we don't even remember we remember we did Oh right, good,
That's all it matters.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I had no idea. Joe had people ask all the time, press,
what's the parlay of the day record, what's your record
in the NHL rundown? What's your record on wk W radio,
what's your record on c K and Y.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We had Brian Power on the show yesterday, so chances
are we I just assume we'd lose.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So that was the end of that. So I'm just
saying that's you know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, Mark the Caesar is back with us. Now hit
the like button, everybody, let's get into this art. NFL.
I think we had almost every favorite win, almost every
game went over. I'm guessing that did not bode well
with the books, but hey, who knows. Maybe you guys
kicked ass. How did the books do an NFL?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, It's funny. I've come on here the last couple
of weeks and said we've lost to the NFL, and
you would have thought, right with what was it, eleven
and two the favorites were and the average margin to
victory was like twenty points, you would think, oh man,
we got slaughtered in the NFL again. But the two
outright dogs that won Miami and the Jets. Those were
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like the best case scenarios for us, So we actually
won money Sunday. It was really nice to turn a
profit on a day where I'm gonna assume most books
got slaughtered because of like what I said, that record
Denver was actually pretty good for us as well. Like
I said, we always take cowboy money. Now, the Monday
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night result wasn't that great because obviously there were plenty
of things running into the Chiefs on teasers, on moneyline parlays,
even on just parlay cards with the Chiefs minus ten
and a half. So Monday night is great, but Sunday
really good result.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
What about some of those other games we talked to
all week long, our teams, like you know, Carolina getting
all that money last week against you know, Buffalo, New
Orleans was another one that got a ton of money
with the you know, you talked about those games all
week long. They kept popping up here on where's the
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money going here? How did the books ultimately do with those?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah? I mean, like I said, the other results, like
when you just look at like Buffalo was not good
because you know, there was that stream of Carolina early money.
But then you know, Buffalo gets hit on all the teasers,
all the money line parlays. You know, the Saints one
was interesting because that actually saw pretty good two way
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after the initial Saint money, We're actually going to talk
about the Saints game for this upcoming week. I say
it every week, they bet the Saints every week and
they do. But then there was some public money on Tampa,
so kind of just balance everything out. But I'm gonna
say it again, we really got the two favorites to
lose that we needed to lose, yeah, which was Cincinnati
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and Atlanta. Yeah. I mean, and I'm gonna tell you
right now, the Atlanta one was the biggest one. The
money tied to Atlanta parlays and teasers was no one
for us.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Who Yeah, yeah, Art, let's stay with NFL. We're gonna
come back to how you did in college football right after,
but let's stay with NFL and where the money is
going this week end? And you want to talk about
the Chargers game all over the map right now, Art,
We've got a nine and a half at one book
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and a ten and a half at another, and tens
at about seventy of the book. Where is the Westgate
on this Chargers game, where is it going? And tell
us about the Broncos, Texans, and of course the Saints
and Rams.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, so that Charger game, like you said, it's kind
of as low as like you said, nine and a half,
it's highest ten and a half. We're in the middle
of ten. And that's because we opened nine and a
half and we took sharp money on the Chargers at
that nine and a half, so we moved to ten.
We didn't feel the full point was necessary obviously early
in the week lower limits, but we did want to
move the half point off the sharp information. Denver and Houston.
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You know, we opened Denver as a small favorite minus one,
and now you're looking at Houston minus one and a half.
Obviously Denver is gonna miss one of the best defensive
players in the league in certain Houston at home again,
they look really good on Sunday. I know the Niners
are banged up. Houston kind of got their mojo back.
So that's why you've seen Houston now flip the a
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one and a half point favorite. Obviously the total went
down a little bit as well. And then the Saints.
You know, we had the Rams thirteen and a half
and we took money there. Then we got to fourteen
and a half and then we took Saint money. So
now we're back in the middle. Really good two way action.
I think we felt really comfortable when we got to
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the fourteen and a half that we would entice some
Saints bets. Obviously it's an enormous spread. You know, the
Rams are going to be a free Bengos square this
week with money line parlays all that type of stuff.
But you have seen the thirteen and a half money
and then the fourteen and a half money on that game.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Joe, I'm jumping in real quick here because I know
it's your turn, but I want to talk about the
Houston Denver with one of the things you said, and
I mean full disclosure. I'm interested in this total. So
that's this is you're helping me art you mentioned going
up going down. I'm seeing forties and a thirty nine,
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but I'm seeing more forties. I'm also seeing ninety four
percent of the money being written on the I think
thirty nine thirty nine and a half might be the best,
the lowest total we get it. We're looking to bet over.
Do you not agree there or do you think this
might still go down more?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's interesting with when you lose one of the best
defensive players in the league, like the Broncos did, you
would think, oh man, this total is probably gonna shoot
up a little bit. But you also have to remember
that Houston defense, Yes, maybe the best unit in the league, right,
I mean, it might be the best defensive unit in
the league.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's right there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So I think you're right. Maybe we've hit the bottom
here at thirty nine and a half. It's possible, but
for us, we saw a tick down a little bit.
So you know, I can only speak you know, whenever
you give out these numbers. Oh, obviously I can only
speak to what I see at the Westgate, and that's
obviously what we've seen before. You know, when I come
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back on Friday and we're sitting here and maybe the
totals forty one, well that's possible.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Arizona State quarterback Sam Levitt downgraded to unlikely to play.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Joe, Yeah, well, I mean I should have played last
week too.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What are you thinking here? Art for college football this week?
How did you do last week? Given it wasn't I
mean Texas game was very interesting there with the with
the crazy comeback, but it doesn't look like Arch will
be in play here this week. Vandy and Missouri was
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also crazy. Any any big moves one way or the
other that cost the book.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Last week college football, I want to say this is
four or five straight weeks I've come on and said
we did really well on college football. College football was
another really good week. Not as good as the past two,
but a positive week. I would say the three games
that really helped us. K State was really good for us,
Cincinnati was really good for us, and the number one
game that was good for us was South Florida. That
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was the number one game where we really cleaned up
on all Right.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
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this show, this show is incredible. And I know that
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We're got our parlay of the day your way, but.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There we go. There you go, parlaying in a day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
We're gonna finish what we're doing with college first, because
there's three games that have been steamed out the ass
art early on this week and I'm still trying to
figure out what's going on here with with the second
one you're going to talk about with Michigan State and
Minnesota but.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
In Texas, Minnesota the rail bloody Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, listen, we just mentioned and you mentioned art show.
You know, Texas. We opened as a two and a
half point home favorite. Sharps took Vandy right away on that,
so we're now one and a half on the game,
and Vandy's kind of been a darling for a lot
of people who got in on them early in the season.
Now there's some people coming and maybe a little late
to the party, but Vandy now feels like every week
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they take money, so you know Vandy is one of
those teams. The Michigan Statement Consoda game is it's fascinating, right.
I mean, you had Minnesota. We opened as high as
a five point favorite, and then Michigan State took money
at five and four. We're now Minnesota as a three
point favorite in that game. And then you mentioned the
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Arizona State quarterback res We opened Iowa State as a
four and a half point favorite. Sharp money came in
instantly on that. It's six. Now here's the question, how
high can we get on this game? Because I think
even with the quarterback being out, if it hits seven,
they're gonna take Arizona State at seven. So do we
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get there? We probably do, But then there's the complete
buyback on that football number of seven, So be interesting
to monitor that game for the rest of the week.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I don't get it. I don't get the whole Iowa
State a love. I don't care who's playing quarterback for
Arizona State. I had BYU against Iowa State last week,
and I think Iowa State has been overrated for I'm
the get go here. If that thing hits seven, I
would imagine the buyback.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Is gonna happen pretty pretty instantaneous.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Now, Oh, I think there's no doubt about it. And
I think you know it moving a point and a
half quickly yesterday, and you know on Monday. I always
want to say this. On Monday totals, you could see
move two two and a half points. You know, aside
to move a point is very normal. When you start
to get to one and a half two two and
a half on a side, those are the ones that
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really stand out to you on an early Monday. Now.
I get that this has to do with a quarterback injury,
which is always going to move a number, but I
think the early side moves, when you get to the
point point and a half and higher, those are the
ones you really have to kind of circle and see
what's the apex of the number going to be? What's
the buyback? You know, we're gonna probably need to avoid
middles on those type of games, so those are always
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really things that we want to avoid on a Saturday
because you never want to get middle done again.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Unbelievable information from art to Caesar, what's the difference between
instantly and instantaneously Joe the spelling. There we go, Mike
dropped from Joe and Airy Boys. Lots of show left.
Parlay of the day still to come to aid or not.
We're gonna look at the NFC division leaders. We're gonna
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go through a couple of college football bets, couple of
NFL bets, every NHL game and every NBA game, and
we'll end the show with our mailbox segment Art the
Caesar parlay of the day. I'll go first, Edmonton Oilers.
Uh in regulation plus it's a pick them at art.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I like it all right. So my Rangers cannot score goals, Yes,
they can't under in their game. They just can't score
on the playoffs. So I'm going under six minus one
twenty in their game versus Vancouver tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Nice, wait, you got a six on that game. That's incredible. Okay,
Oh yeah, okay, I I love that bet. I just
I love that bet. Thank you. I thought it was
almost all five and a half's Joe?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Interesting?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Uh, Miami heat on the money line here tonight at
home against Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There we go, stylish shirt, you got there going Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh, thank you very much, Travis, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You're going to tell us what brand the damn shirt is?
Who you think you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
To take it? Well you because I know that was
going to be the next thing is that? I thought?
Is it?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
VIORI like what? Yes? I know that was coming. So
that was he's on the rings.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, he's on the red carpet at the Emmys. Who
are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So I knew it was coming on.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I just cut that ship right off right there, and
we ended good done.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The Caesar supposedly Joe Niari is playing bass on today's show.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
No No, No, No tomorrow, Tomorrow, tomorrow. It was Wednesday.
It wasn't Tuesday. It was no listen, listen christ let
me just show you guys here, so you guys here. Okay,
it's here, Prez I got so it's that and it's
happening tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, Okay, okay, I'm gonna can we request a
song people in the comment section, request what song as
your favorite?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Somebody already wanted like another one bites the dust. I'm
told I can teach you how to play that press
in about three minutes, so we're.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We're going to go. Well, I would say, what what
songs your favorite bassline of all time? I mean, so
you know what, Joe, let's go with a flea song,
Red Hot Chili Peppers. If you're going to pull out
the bass play, I want you in diapers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
No not playing.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Okay, we're going blues. We're going all blues. We're all
Phoebe King, We're all going Albert King. We're going all blues.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, the season, you're an area. Let's keep moving, brother
fade or not made. We're talking NFC Division leaders will
start with the Philadelphia Eagles. This Philadelphia Eagles team happens
to be on a bye week for them, but moving forward,
they are a bet on team for me.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Art Yeah, I mean, you know, you've kind of been
on this where they were gonna find their mojo in
the middle of the season, and maybe they broke out
last week against my Giants, had a really nice game. Yeah, listen,
I still think Hurts is a little iffy, but I
guess when you look at the division moving forward, they're
clearly the best team. All the other teams have so
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many problems, So yeah, I guess they probably are a
bet on team.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The Eagles are toughs man. I feel like they're heading
in the right direction. I think health is a concern
for them here, and I just think there's a few
other NFC teams were probably gonna cover here that are
our better bets long term. But I do think the
Eagles are never gonna be a value play brands from
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here on out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't see the market adjusting and giving us a
chance any value on them.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So firstly, move the alo to fade or not fade,
And secondly, thank you to quote a very smart Orange man.
We had no value on the Tom Brady error either.
We have no value on the Patrick mahomes there are either,
and yet all they do is cover This Philadelphia team
is underrated in every facet. The Green Bay Packers guys
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five and one. They are a huge favorite at minus
thirteen minus twelve and a half against Carolina makes total
sense to me. Their defense is excellent, their offense is
well balanced. This is a.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Bet on team.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I don't know if I can get to the window
at minus thirteen, but I gotta tell you, boys, I'd
be very surprised if they don't cover that number. Art.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm with you, Chris. I know it's an enormous number,
but Carolina's not good. I don't care a couple of
the you know, the wacky wins they've had this year.
The defense is starting a round into shape for green Bay,
which you love. I think love gets better every week.
Tucker Craft, you know how good he is. The running backs,
they got a lot of weapons, and I love the coach.
I think moving forward, green Bay definitely a bet on team.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
We said the same shit about this team after they
destroyed Detroit in game one and then they go to
Dallas as a huge favorite.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And then they ship the bed and it's a tige
in Cleveland and then Dallas where they tied the Like,
I don't know, this team is Heckle and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's just it's Jekyl and Hyde. To me, I'm a
wait and see.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They looked great against Pittsburgh, But let me ask you, guys, Art,
can they put two goddamn games together that look like
what we got against Pittsburgh Because they haven't done it yet, guys.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And to be fairy, yeah, they didn't even put two
halves together. Yeah, yeah, I mean, first half they roll,
but they if they they're getting it done in that
second Yeah, I'm I like Green Bay do.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, they're getting it done. Uh. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I mean,
I can't bet against this team. Uh. It just Baker's
doing something great. There's no wide receivers and they're still
all they do is when they play horrible and all
they do is cover. They've got to have some type
of regression. I'm concerned about the Tampa Bay team. But
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with that said, they're going to be getting guns back.
I don't know what to do here, Art, I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm with you. It's a wait and see for me. Obviously,
they've been excellent there on this by thereby this week.
They need guys back like Bucky Irving and some of
their other guys. They just need to get guys back.
But it might be you know, pick your spots with
dam Joe.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Just bet them now to win the division. I don't
care what the price is. Atlanta Raheem Mars is going
to be fired in the next four games. There is
nobody catching them in that division. It's an easy bet.
I don't know what their prop is to make the playoffs.
But they are They're an easy bet as far as
Hompkins are moving forward with Tampa.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The Seattle Seahawks and the Rams. Seattle now, Joe Art,
it came out at two and a half, it's now
three and a half on the road against Washington. This
is a team I'm gonna be looking to take unders with.
I don't think I can get to the window this week.
I'm wait and see approach on the actual team, but
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I will look to bet on the under. The Rams
are going to crush New Orleans this week, but I
don't think they're a bet on team in a big
favorite role. I don't know if they're going to create
a lot of distance for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Art, I really like both teams. Obviously, that division is
wonderful when you throw San Francisco in there. I love
Seattle's interior play, sides of the ball. I think Donald's
good enough, obviously, the receivers maybe the best receiver in
the league, and the coach is good. Seattle I like
and I like. I mean, there's what's there not to
like about the Rams. Their coaching, quarterback are amazing. They
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have a pass rush. I'm with your press. Maybe you
don't want to lay fourteen fourteen and a half this week,
but I think both teams have real legitimate shots to
say they could represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't know if Seattle does art, but I mean
I still think there's you know, you've still got Detroit,
Green Bay, Philly. Yeah. I don't think either of those
teams are gonna rep get to the Super Bowl, but
I would take the Rams over the Seahawks, Joe, what
are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Seattle on the road has been absolute money, uh when
under Midal here since he's taken them, and that goes
back to last year too, they have been absolutely phenomenal,
great defense, championship style defense there. They got a good
running game. Sam Donald is the question mark, but if
they don't ask him to do a whole lot, they're legit.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They can beat anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah and good, he's got good ball management, Sam Darnold
right now. So that's the credit of their coach. He's
really Trent dulfering his way down the field.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Other than that, well, he actually there's the ball though,
like that was not Trent till.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He does he does well, Trent threw the ball twenty
one times or so.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And he screen passes like you never three he didn't have,
you know, Jas said, he certainly didn't have, or like.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Flacco with the Lewis coming out of the backfield exactly Art,
What does the west Gate have to promote anything? A
special going on over there?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, just listen, you know, this is obviously an enormous
time of the year. Listen, We've got college basketball Monday,
so you know, throw another, throw another sport into the hopper,
and you know, away we go. This is a great
time to be working in sportsbook, to be betting all
that type of stuff. So you know, listen, I'll be
back tomorrow with plenty more information.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
One question before you go, one question before you go, though,
Number one, any movement tonight in these two college football games?
And what about the World Series? Are you seeing after
that craziness last night? Are you seeing anything at the
book one way? Or is everyone just backing Otani tonight?
What do you see in anything?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, the college football games really nothing to speak of.
The midweek games are just they're so tough. I mean,
they just get lost to the shuffle with so much
going on. Obviously, if there's ever anything to you know, report,
I always will do that. The world series interesting to night.
I mean, obviously the Dodgers are up to a two
dollars even higher favorite. You know your totals at eight.
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I think a lot of people will of course come
in and back Otani tonight. They'll be the sweetener for
a lot of people's moneyline parlays today. Just throw the
Dodgers in there. Then you're gonna get the people who
lay the run line, the people lay the alternate tune
hof online. And then I think because every picture was
used and it was a forty hour game last night,
I think you're going to see a lot of people
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coming and.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Bet the over.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I think we gonna get a lot of public over
money just just thinking that way. And that's that's first
first five, that's team totals, that's game. I think you're
going to see a lot of that tonight with the total.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I agree, well, said Art Caesar. Get out of here, brother,
thanks for doing this Joberary. It's time to take care
of some business.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh you love your business, damn it.
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Speaker 2 (26:03):
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Speaker 4 (26:04):
I love these early week college football matchups here and
Art said it not a lot of action on them
from a book perspective, which means, yeah, we can get
some real value if you follow the Sunbelt in Conference USA,
and I think there's some good value here tonight.
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Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's a Canada version of Price Is Right? Yeah, and
who's with that? Drew Carrey?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I have no freaking clues, but I've made it
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in why are you rolling your eyes, Joe? How much
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fun with that?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It'd have been much more impressed if you got like
fear Factor Canadian edition.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That would have been that I would fly up to watch.
That would be a.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Gookay college football early bets. Let's go que the clock
two minutes each. I will begin Washington State minus three
against Oregon State. It's a new error for this Washington
State Cougars team, and it's a new era for Oregon State.
They've just fired their coach. Well, not just but a
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few weeks ago. The Cougar's recently battle ranked teams down
to the wire on the road, they beat macintender Toledo.
New coach Jimmy Rodgers has kept WSU in the mix
for a Bowl invite. No one saw that coming. They
got a balanced offense. Their run and pass are both
exactly two hundred and fifty times. They've run two hundred
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and fifty four times, they've passed two hundred and fifty
four times. They've a dual threat playmaker at QB. None
of this is happening for the Beavers. The Beavers are
a disaster. Oh and seven start can't get out of
their own way. Washington State minus three. That's short. I
think they win this game by between seven and thirteen.
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Take the Washington State Cougars minus three against the Oregon
State Beavers and we'll all catch that one together.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Joe, I love that one, Prez.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Actually to tell you the truth, because Oregon State is
a nightmayor. But we do have a game coming up
here this week with the Academies, Press, Army and Air
Force are getting ready to go at it now. These
two teams have been anything but ordinary when it comes
to totals. Right used to be where you just go
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ahead and hit the under, not making there was what
it is when the academies face one another. It's under
problem is both of these teams no longer are under teams.
They're over teams, mostly because Air Forces defense is hot trash.
They can't stop anybody, so they give up a million points.
The line opened up right around fifty pres. I think
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the total is in this one. I think it's starting
to tick down a little bit, but I'm not falling
for it. I think we're getting points in this one.
So I am gonna go against the Green and go
over in the Service Academy Army versus Air Force.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
This weekend, Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Dari nf Al, I'm gonna look at We spoke about
this a little earlier, Denver playing Houston. I'm very interested
in the total here, Joe, and I think this might
be a client play. I'm looking at taking the over.
I understand that the Houston defense has played outstanding of late.
They allowed Rand to put up fifteen Rand totally injured team.
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Fifteen feels more like twenty one twenty two to me.
Seattle put up twenty seven on them, but before that
it was zero seventeen twenty fourteen. They really have a
great defensive unit, and Denver's defensive unit, although I think
is overrated, is still pretty rock solid. They did allow
Dallas to put up twenty four in the Giants thirty two,
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and they have lot lost. Patrick's certain With all that said, Joe,
this is more of a play on the play action
pass on or Denver and Houston. I think this game
goes over the total. I think this is a very
short number. Frankly, Denver's put up forty four and thirty
three in their last two games. Houston's put up twenty
six nineteen forty four and twenty six. Both these offenses
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are in rhythm right now. Finally, both of them are
making long plays. This total is too short, Joe, I
think this goes over. It is one of my favorite
totals of the week.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
You're gonna go up and over in that one and present.
I cannot argue with that in the least bit.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Bucks. What I can argue is that I don't think
we're going to get a ton of points, or rather
a lack of points. When it comes to the Bengals
taking on the Bears.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Here, that opened up at forty seven and a half,
it's now up to fifty two pres. Fifty two and
a half, and boy to the Bengals defense suck, and
boy is the Bears defense all banged up. This is
a perfect opportunity for both of these teams offensively to
light up the scoreboard. We just saw the Bengals drop
over sixty total points against the lowly Jets. Now the
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Jets can drop almost forty points on the Bengals defense.
I think the Chicago Bears can get theirs as well.
So I got no problem back in the over even
at this price, Pres, I think that's the way to look,
the only way to look with Bengals and Bears.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me. Joe.
I agree with you as well, and I don't like
to agree with you on a whole NHL rundown. It's
frozen frenzy. Every single team on the board. I got
two minutes. Let's go. Pittsburgh playing Philadelphia. I'm looking to
take the over. I'm looking to take the over in
every single game Pittsburgh's involved in. I lean on Philadelphia
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and regulation minus one twenty Toronto against Calgary. I like
Toronto in regulation here. I like them a lot, and
I like Calgary under team total Vegas Carolina. I'm looking
to bet the under six in this game Columbus and Buffalo.
If you can find a six, go over. I do
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like over six and a half as well, not as much.
It's gonna be a high scoring game. Florida playing Anaheim.
I like Anaheim team total under in this game. New
York Islanders playing Boston, Joe, this is not last year's
New York Islanders team. This is a team that is scoring.
I like the over six in the New York Islanders
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Boston game. I do not like over six and a half,
So don't bet a it. Well, you can get a
six and a half. I like Nashville against Tampa Bay Joe,
nice plus one forty dog for you. Minnesota playing Pitts Winnipeg.
I like under the total of six. I like that
a lot. Detroit paying Saint Louis. I like over the
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total of six. There are five and a halfs out there.
You can get a five and a half on that
Detroit Saint Louis over. That's one of my favorite plays.
Dallas playing Washington. I like Dallas and minus one thirty
Ottawa playing Chicago. I like Chicago as a plus one
twenty dog. Colorado playing New Jersey Colorado in regulation short
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revenge spot. Edmonton is going to annihilate Utah and start
rolling with that said, shout out to Utah. They're playing incredible.
I like the under in the Vancouver game. I like Seattle,
and I like the over in the San Jose LA
Kings game. That's every game on the board, Joe, what
you got in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That was crazy, Prez, well done.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Not as many games in the NBA here tonight, buts
we are going to start with the seventy six ers
taking on the lowly Washington Wizards and congratulation Sixers. Joel
Embiid is back. Yeah, park his ass on the bench.
This is a much better team without him anywhere near
the court. Hence what you saw last night against the
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Orlando Magic, which we gave out to our clients in
winning fashion. Here, listen, the Wizards not good. The Sixers.
They could score enough points to help get this thing
up and over one way or the other. Speaking of
over man, you don't want to sweat out and under
with the Miami Heat and the Hornets. Miami Heat playing
at one of the fastest ten that we have seen
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in a very long time. They've scored what three hundred
and sixty some odd points in a couple of games here.
They have been on fire, but so have the Hornets here.
I think this is going to be a fun one.
The Heat are now laying five and a half six points.
That's a tad too many for a team like the
Hornets that could match them here for a little while
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point for point, But I would only look at the
over there. The Knicks and the Bucks. Knicks on the
road taking on a Milwaukee Bucks. Neither of these teams
are on the second of a back to back. They
are coming with a little bit of rest. It feels
like this is going to be whoever has the ball last.
I think the Bucks at home getting points is the
right way to look. And then the thunder who played
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last night did not cover against Dallas are back home
taking on the Kings. Keep an eye on chet Holgrim's status.
He's been questionable for the last three games. He may
sit this one out. And then, of course the Warriors
and the Clippers. This is true the AA RP game
of the week. As both teams hovering around a median
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age of about seventy five Warriors played last night, I
would imagine an under is happening in this game here.
I don't see either of these teams running up and
down the court. I'm gonna look at the under in
that one there, pres.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Joe, I love our mailback section of the show. We
get incredible comments from everybody, and I'm so appreciative of them.
Matt Bartley rights, how do you guys usually approach future
bets on a whole, Joe? I have. I make very
little future bets, almost none. I'm eight and two. I
think on future bets lifetime, but I really you know,
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I'll tell you the easiest way to look at future bets.
For me is if I actually release a future bet bet,
because I try my hardest to not make future bets.
What about you?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
To me?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Pres And this is one of the beauties of the
addictive markets, right the Calshie's and the poly markets. Press,
because that's the only place I would look to tie
up money in a future event. Why because I don't
need the outcome to be finished one way or the
other in order to make money on it. Right, If
I buy the contract at a certain price, I can
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sell it at any point until that event eventually happens,
so I.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Don't have to tie up to money.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
If I get I can always you know, if I
make money on it, I can cash it out at
any time and go someplace else. So I would only
look at future events in the predictive markets from this
point on.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Press.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's a really, really great point, Joe, A bunch of
our people, Brian Davis mentions it. A few others A
kels fade the wise guys. Please don't do that, guys.
I understand we're having a moment in time here where
maybe the wise guys didn't look so good this past
week in the NFL, or maybe last week in the NFL.
But firstly, you did not take into account how they
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did in college football. You didn't take into account how
they did in NHL or baseball. And on a whole
there's a reason they are wise guys. Don't make a
habit of fading wise guys. It's not gonna go well
in the long run, Joe.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
You can't fit. The wise guys are the bucks. The
wise guys are always on the same sides.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
As the books.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And while no, they're not going to win every week,
the reality it is you do not want to find
most of your bets on the public side. That is
not a winning proposition long term, So be very very
careful with just blanket statements the world faith the why
because they lost a couple of games this week please ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
And lastly, Brian Davis writes, pres you can't bet NFL favorites,
but you can bet the Jets. Every week they take
everyone's money except this week. Yeah, it's a really good point, Brian,
because I could be wrong here, but Joe, I think
the Jets are four and four ats, so people should
not be scared about betting the Jets.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Listen, they have been a couple of games they were competitive,
a couple of games they got absolutely blown out in,
and of course they won one. As a big dog bot,
I'll tell you this, the longer the season goes, and
we just saw it this weekend, right, Expecting bad teams
to do good things at a consistent level is absurd.
So congratulations four and four is great, But I think
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the time has come to stop playing the Saints, stop
backing the Jets. It's all gonna come crashing down here
at some.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Point, and I never do Mike Clients will never get
to play on the Saints or Carolina and the Jets.
What a show. Tomorrow we do it again, same time,
same place, Art de Caesar, myself, Joe Ranieri. Supposedly Joe's
gonna play bass for us tomorrow. We'll find out about
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