October 10, 2025 • 25 mins
On today's episode, Prez, Joe and Art discuss where money is going so far in MLB Playoffs, College Football Week 7, NFL Week 6 and they also give their NFL Week 6 best bets before Sunday's action!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
00:22 NFL: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
08:07 FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
09:08 CFB SATURDAY: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
10:00 PARLAY OF THE DAY | NFL 3 TEAM
14:39 PREZ NFL BETS WK 6
16:50 JOE'S NFL BETS WK 6
19:07 MLB RUNDOWN
21:17 MAILBAG | VIEWER QUESTIONS!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
00:22 NFL: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
08:07 FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
09:08 CFB SATURDAY: WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING?
10:00 PARLAY OF THE DAY | NFL 3 TEAM
14:39 PREZ NFL BETS WK 6
16:50 JOE'S NFL BETS WK 6
19:07 MLB RUNDOWN
21:17 MAILBAG | VIEWER QUESTIONS!
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the best betting show ever. We're here to
make you money. There are three college football games, one
baseball game, no NHL games, but we got a whole
weekend of betting opportunities. How do we make money? Stay
with us all the way through. I'm Lawrence Presman. This
is the best betting show ever. Art the Caesar and
Joe and Aary like always, let's get it moving, let's
(00:22):
keep it going Art. NFL Week six Eagles didn't show up.
Who cares? It's in the rearview mirror. Where is the
money going for Sunday?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, some good games to talk about. Chargers go to
the Dolphins. We took very sharp money on the under
in that game. Forty four and a half are now
forty three and a half. Chargers are a four point
road favorite. That's actually seem pretty good two way action.
So nothing to really speak of on the side. Monday
Night Bills in Atlanta. There are two Monday Night games.
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Sharp money came in on the under at fifty and
a half now forty nine, and they bet Atlanta when
it was as high as five and a half. Bills
are now a four and a half point road favorite,
and obviously we were going to talk more about the
Sunday night game Lions and Chiefs. Really good game total
of fifty three. I know that the total has been
something we've been talking about all week. We haven't moved
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higher than that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Have we hit the peak of that total, I don't know.
I mean there have not. I don't even see fifty
threes out there, so maybe we are at the peak,
but we haven't seen the buyback on the under yet,
so waiting to really see on how that total moves.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And then the side.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know, we at Kansas City minus one and a half,
we went up to two and a half on the game,
took some Lions money at two and a half. We're
now back on Chiefs minus two. So that seemed pretty
good two way action as well.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
What about it appeared that there there might have been
a pros versus Joe's situation in that Carolina Dallas game
as well, art where it looks like we saw a
whole lot of Dallas maybe lover but that line just
moved to Caroline.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Is it still there right right?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think if you look at Dallas, that's an interesting
spot for them, which that game basically is a look
adline was a pick em or Dallas minus one and
then for it to get to three. Listen, Caroline is
no good. But they are at home. Now you're you know,
now you have Dallas laying a field goal on the road.
Dalla's going to be very popular with the public.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We know that. So I think you know, any wise
guy who's out.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
There who wanted to look for a three, they're probably gonna,
you know, want to get that before it probably goes under.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The fool goal.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. I want to talk to
you conceptually about what Joe just mentioned, and that is
that how to spot sort of you know, smart money
versus public money. And then sticking on that Dallas game.
What what Joe is alluding to is Dallas was minus
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three and a half, yet they're now three. Yet eighty
percent of the money is coming in on Dallas, seventy
three percent of the tickets on Dallas. So Art, can
we just stop for a second and maybe go deep
into that? So tons more money is coming in on Dallas,
(03:18):
most of the tickets being written on Dallas, yet the
line is moving in Carolina's direction. Could you explain that
to our listening audience.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, I mean you could take ten bets and eight
or nine of them could be Dallas, But the one
or two bets you take on Carolina or you know
is someone you respect. I mean, you can have general
public players on the other side, yep, betting one side.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And you know it's funny too. Sometimes even you know
someone we.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Respect, it doesn't mean that they have to come in
here and put twenty K down on an NFL game
for us to move the number. It could be a
five K bet and we just see the market moving
that way and we respect that side and want a.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Book to that side. Sometimes that happens as well.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, So on that note, Art and I know you're
pressed for time on Fridays, but most people are sitting
there thinking, why aren't you looking for even money on
both sides? If if you're getting nine bets on one
side and one bet on the other, and those nine
dwarf the one, why are you moving in the direction
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of the one bet.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's a great question. I think the oldest kind of
tail in the sportsbook industry is we want equal action
on every game. Obviously, sure you do, but that rarely happens.
You rarely get equal action. They say, most of the times,
you're lopsided on every game. You know, most of the
time you're in the seventy seventy five percent on one
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side or the other, maybe sixty forty. You know, to
book NFL games all week, let's say there were no
buys and you have sixteen games, maybe you get one
that's like a fifty to fifty draw. It's that you
get that. I mean, yes, sure, would it be nice
for us to do that, of course, but it's rare
that you get those type of games.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yep, right, Yeah, what about major League baseball before we
go to college football? Because we got a pretty good
one here tonight in Game five between the Tigers.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And the Mariners. What are we seeing so far? Anything?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, could could we see a four and a
half before it's all said and done?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, it's a great it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Obviously, we have a total of five and a half
over minus one twenty Now when these guys picked the
last time, that's what the total was. You got a
first five of three juice to the under, minus one
twenty five to the under. You know, we were as
high as minus one thirty five on the Tigers we're
now sitting minus one twenty three. Now we do we
do deal a ten cent line, so we are pretty
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fair on both sides. So you know, we're gonna be
a little bit lower on you know, kind of both
sides of that because we don't want to deal too
much out on the underdog. So you know, that line
crashing for us really wasn't because we took a ton
of Seattle money.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We're just trying to stay within market on that game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, before we turn our attention to college football.
And I want to go through both Friday nights, all
three Friday night games, and my headphones and tomorrow's card,
I want to ask you a question. My wife bets
on DraftKings. And last night there was an in game
bet on the Philly Kansas City game, a Philly New
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York Giants game twenty seven to seventeen. Right when it happened,
Philadelphia was plus one forty two to win in game
and the Giants were minus one eighty eight. Is this
where the industry is right now? Where both of those
bets are so freaking horrible it's ridiculous, and there's a
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forty five cent line in play? Is this like I was.
She was reading this to me of her own and
I was like, read that again.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
What there's people heading the button, isn't there?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh there's yeah, press. I can only speak to what
we do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And like I said, to us, dealing a ten cent
line in baseball, you still see in playoff baseball people
dealing thirty and thirty five forty cent line. So I mean,
were trying to stay as fair as we can.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Listen, there are some things you have to kind of
move with the times, and yeah, I think that's kind
of where it is headed. But you know, we're trying
to stay pat with dealing the fairest lines and splits
weekend yep.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I mean I literally turned to Vivian and said, both
those bets suck and normally one might be good. Yeah, yeah, Anyway,
I was in shock, and I don't bet with any
of those, you know, dk fds, So I don't see
these forty five set. Anyone who sees a forty five
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cent line needs to go to a place where they
don't see a forty five sent line. Let's get into
some Friday night lights college football three games. Obviously the
big one is none of them. But with that said,
where's the money coming in.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Washington and Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We took early Washington money minus ten, went up to eleven,
then we took Rutgers money at eleven, so we've kind
of settled in the middle. The Presdent State Colorado State,
that's the least bet of the three games, really nothing
to speak of. The North Texas South Florida game is
actually a really good game, really big game for the
Power five schools. You know, one of those teams can
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make a playoff run here, right. You know, we've seen
South Florida as a favorite in the game. We've seen
North Texas as a favorite in the game. We basically
were sitting at pick for the last day and a half.
This morning we moved to North Texas minus one and
a half on the game total is very high.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
In the game.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know Joe had mentioned that earlier in the week.
We have a total of sixty seven in that game. So,
like I said, we did move from pick to one
and a half on North Texas this morning.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Strength the schedule. That what that is all about. Right there?
In that game.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
There a couple of interesting ones also total wise, Air
Force UNLV as well as San Diego State Nevada and
of course UCLA is gonna win two in a row,
right art, What are you seeing on these.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, of course sharp money on unlv at minus six
and a half. We're now up to seven at home
against air Force. You mentioned the big totals sixty five
and a half on that game San Diego State and
Nevada gave is very interesting. We took sharp money at
six and a half and seven on San Diego State,
and then this morning when we were up to seven
and a half, we did see a sharp nibble on
Nevada at seven and a half, so we're back.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
To seven on that game.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That seemed pretty good two way action a lot of
times that happens with these seven games. When it's under
the touchdown, you get it. When it goes over the touchdown,
you get bunny as well. And then UCLA took money
a plus eight and a half Michigan State now seven
and a half at home. You would think there'd be
a letdown spot here for UCLA after their enormous win,
but they did at Ucla early in the week.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's why we had to move.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
All right, the season joining us Everyone, guys, if you
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hundred and sixteen comments yesterday. So fun. The comments section
on our show is so fun. I read it, Art
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reads it, Joe reads it. So please keep putting those
comments up and listen. We got our parlay of the day.
It's a three team NFL parlay. What is yours? So
put up in the comment section your three team NFL parlay.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Art.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm going to start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers miyus
against San fran I will explain that bet later. But
the Tapa Bay Buccaneers minus three for me?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Ooh you like Art, I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm gonna take the Bears on Monday Night plus four
and a half coming off the buy. Caleb and that
team have gotten better every week. I know Washington's good,
but overfield goals too many. Give me the Bears plus
four and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Wow. All right, you guys are gonna make this difficult.
Not really Chargers money line for me, guys, make it
simple here. I do not trust anything about the Dolphins
or the defense. I'll take the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
On the money line.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, yeah, that makes sense to me. And off of
a bad loss to Boot, there we go Art to Caesar.
You have yourself a wonderful day. Brother. I hope Westgate
wins every bet they make they take, except for obviously Joe,
Mine and our clients. Be good. We'll see you on Tuesday.
(11:55):
Thanks for doing this many art, but yeah, art to
see that. That was a killer segment, Joe. We're so
lucky to have this guy and the people in the
chat room are understanding the importance of art and the
information that he provides us. Brother, we're going to get
to our NFL bets, yours and mine. You're going to
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do an MLB rundown. There's no NHL today, and we'll
go through the mail bag section before we get into
any of that. We both Joe and I have a
big weekend planned. Yes, it's time for some business. Joe's
promo is uh, what's the promo code?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You might want to put that in there by the way, Joe,
there you go seven and you get seven days for
sixty nine dollars. That includes Joe's baseball, NFL, college football,
and are you betting NHL this year?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Of course it is every time that you bet against
the Panthers, you'll know exactly where I'm going, So yes,
I will, But I'm like you, I don't want nothing
to do with the craziness the first couple of days
and byway schedule at NHL and batement. Great job, give
us ninety eight games yesterday and nothing today with just
one Yeah, great, great job.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And there's no sport going on today except for a
baseball game in two small markets, like what ridiculous? Not
one single hockey game, like they couldn't put like Ov
versus Crosby or McKinnon versus Connor like some showcase moment.
(13:41):
I mean, okay, Ov versus Crosby wouldn't be a showcase
maybe so, but yeah, but you get my point. You
get my point anyway. My promo is PRES one ninety nine.
That's thirty day all access. A bunch of you guys
took advantage of that today, and that's because I have
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a five percent playoff in baseball tonight. So instead of
paying the thirty five bucks for my baseball play, grab
a month of all my plays. I went two and
o last night in hockey, so I'm back two and
three to start the season. So the wins are coming.
My NFL football I won last night. I had the over.
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That one was easy. Sixty three percent on the season,
and college football is slightly underprofit, but lots still to come.
Pres one nine nine, okay, brother, four segments to go
two minutes each. Okay, guys, two NFL bets. Let's get
into it. I told you, guys, I like Tampa Bay
and the parlay of the day, and I said, I
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talk about it here. I actually gave out Tampa Bay
earlier in the week. So we're going to get to
two totals. But I really do like the Tampa Bay
Bucks against San Francisco. And you want to hear all
my thoughts on every single NFL game on the check
out the NFL Presidential Address. It's about a twenty minute
long show. It's up at wager Talk TV, and I
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go through every single game on the board. Here are
my two totals, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. We're gonna look at
under the total and that makes total sense to me. Look,
I understand head to head, these guys, strangely have been
putting up scores forty one last time they played forty
three the time before. They've gone over the total like
six of their last seven or five of their last six.
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This is a whole different team personally. We've got a
Cleveland defense that really is playing some exceptional ball. Now,
I understand twenty one was put up by Minnesota seven
at the very end of that game, but they really
really played good. The thirty four against Detroit is a
bit oney as well. They held Detroit down with three quarters.
This Pittsburgh offense is not great. The Cleveland offense is horrible.
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Pittsburgh's defense is not played outstanding yet. But I think
we're gonna a huge improvement, and we already have seen
an improvement in their last two games. Thirty eight and
a half is just too high. Take the under as
far as the over goes. Take that. In the La
Rams Baltimore game, now, I understand, who the hell's gonna
score on Baltimore. Well, they're gonna get ten to seventeen points.
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But defensively, they've allowed forty four to thirty seven, thirty eight, seventeen,
and forty one and twenty seven. So in their last
six games, well five games. In their last five games,
four of them were over thirty seven points. The Rams
are gonna get them some and defensively the Rams have
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allowed twenty six twenty thirty three. They're not as good
a defensive unit as we thought. That is a very
low total for a Baltimore game, forty four and a half.
Take the over, Joe, I like that one.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Pres for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
All Right, I'm gonna focus on a couple of games,
and I think one of them is gross. But it
really isn't because I think the line is off here.
And that's the New England Patriots laying three and a
half here on the road against the New Orleans Saints.
And while a lot of people appoint and say, well,
isn't this a flat spot? And you know after beating
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Buffalo on the road now that they got yes, they
do if they were playing anybody else other than the
New Orleans Saints. And this to me is all about
the injuries in the secondary right now.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
With the Saints.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They'll have backup safeties and two backup cornerbacks in this
game here, which means they're gonna have to play off
the ball. They're gonna have to protect what's gonna happen
here with none other than Stefan Diggs, who's coming off
one hundred and forty six receiving yards. He's gonna have
a fourth round backup cornerback trying to cover him. I
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don't think this is gonna work out. New Orleans the
second most run heavy offense in the NFL right now,
how do you think that's gonna work against that Patriots
run defense. Don't trust Spencer Rattler, you damn right. I
trust Drake May and of course Josh McDaniels, who's.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Doing a great job with him. I think this number
is short.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I am all over the Patriots in this game here,
Prez and the other absolutely disgusting game that we're gonna
go with here has to do with while the Raiders
and the Titans. I like the over in this game.
I think this game is a little bit undervalued in
the total. I think Gino Smith and company. They're gonna
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have to run the ball, They're gonna have to throw
the ball to as well at home. I think the
only way that they're able to get it done here
is they're gonna have to put up twenty eight to
thirty five points somewhere in that ballpark there, and with
all the injuries to that secondary of the Raiders would
not shock me if Tennessee builds off that win pres
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and we get more than the forty one and a
half points that they're saying we're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Joseph, well done, good job. Let's keep it moving. MLB
rundown one game. Why don't you throw in your huge
bet you made on the Toronto Blue Jays plus three
hundred to win it all.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'm looking for that. No, I don't have that press,
but I will tell you about this big game. We
talked to Art earlier. Of course, winner take all. The
reality of this game is that if there's been one
team that has had success against Tarik school Ball this season,
it has been the Mariners. They've done an amazing job.
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They have somehow figured out the Rubet's cube, that is
to Reek School bull three times in four tries this season,
including twice at home. We're talking about school has got
a five point nine to one ERRA. It's the highest
against any team in Major League Baseball with at least
a minimum of ten innings pitch this season. I oh,
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By the way, Seattle at te Mobile Park have been
pretty good over the last couple of seasons, one hundred wins,
only sixty two loss and don't sleep on George Kirby either.
He already faced this team in game one and outside
of a Kerry Carpenter two run home run, struck out
eight guys. I don't see why we should think we're
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going to get anything even remotely close to some sort
of crazy high scoring affair here. I know the total
is five and a half. I think it's gonna keep
going down. Quite honestly, would not shock me in a
winner take all spot, much like you watched last night
with Philadelphia and the Dodgers, which by the way, cashed
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our five percent bet. Earlier this week we gave you
to Dodgers to win in four games as our five
percent best bet. They did that last night in a
two to one game, and pres would all you know, winner.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Take all for all the marbles and all.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Hands on deck would not shock me at all if
we have exactly what we got last night, where this
is a two to one game, one nothing kind of
game when it is all said and done. So to me,
it's an absolute under tonight in that one.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So to summarize, I'm hearing you say bet the over.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yes only in the first ending though run score in
the first ding definitely yes, No, don't do that, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's get to our mail bag section of the show
right off the bat. One of our listeners asked if
I can do an NHL section like we do our
present our NFL bets in our college football bets, So,
in other words, isolate one NFL bet or two NFL bets. No,
but what I will do is I will isolate a
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bet inside of the NHL rundown moving forward. So I
will run down every game and I will single out
my favorite bet in that environment, so kind of like
a compromise, if you will. Okay, Joe, we asked everybody
yesterday to put up the dogs that they think we're
going to win. Now I've put them into two sections. Okay,
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The Dolphins, the Lions, and the Panthers were mentioned many
many times. Out of those three teams, I pick the Lions,
then the Panthers, then the Dolphins in that order as
the chance for the upset you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I kind of like all three of those teams in
any sort of teaser situation this week. Quite honestly, I
don't like the Dolphins defense at home. I don't trust
them at all against that Chargers defense. I think Carolina
the only place that you can bet them pres is
when they play at home, and that's exactly what they're
and that's a pro versus Joe's game for sure. And
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Detroit same thing. If you want to give me Detroit,
that's a high total though. But if you want to
give meet Detroit at what eight somewhere along those lines
eight and a half, I'm good to go with that too.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah. I mean the problem with teasing both Carolina and
Miami is that neither of them fit the Wong strategy. Okay,
my next one is the most common one. Two was
Cleveland and Baltimore. Which team of those two is most
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likely to pull the upset? Cleveland or Baltimore. I picked Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I agree Baltimore absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Baltimore will not be They are not going to get
run over. And I'll tell you why A Hamilton is
back now. They're all pro safety. He'll be playing, and
so will they're all pro left tackle.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
He'll be back in as well for this game.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So they are getting healthier, just not with Lamar, but
as long as they've got other key guys on the defense,
I'm good to go with back in them here.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I couldn't agree with you more, brother, that's the show.
This was a fun week. Listen everybody real quick. On
Monday's show, Brian Power will be joining us. Yes, our
first guest. And what we're going to do moving forward
is we're going to bring a guest on Monday only
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Art is with us Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we'll bring
a guest on on Monday to talk Monday Night football
with Joe and I and then next Thursday and Friday,
I will be in Montreal playing in the Canadian Poker Championships.
So Brian Power will actually be sitting in my chair
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hosting this show. I handpicked Brian Power to sit in
my chair and do my stick. So put up in
the comment section if you thought I picked wrong or right,
Joe Man, think Sexy Devil the Best? When are you
(24:55):
putting music to that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's coming next week when you get back, it'll be here.
But yes, I am looking forward to destroying Brian Power
on Monday Press Actually, so yes him ship, I am
looking absolutely wonderful you and him of wonderful chemistry, and
he's and he's a quirky, entertaining communicator.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
So yes, you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Trying to keep the show fun.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yes, I can't wait it I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'll get the hell out of here by everyone kicking.
It's all win together
Welcome to the best betting show ever. We're here to
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is the best betting show ever. Art the Caesar and
Joe and Aary like always, let's get it moving, let's
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keep it going Art. NFL Week six Eagles didn't show up.
Who cares? It's in the rearview mirror. Where is the
money going for Sunday?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, some good games to talk about. Chargers go to
the Dolphins. We took very sharp money on the under
in that game. Forty four and a half are now
forty three and a half. Chargers are a four point
road favorite. That's actually seem pretty good two way action.
So nothing to really speak of on the side. Monday
Night Bills in Atlanta. There are two Monday Night games.
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Sharp money came in on the under at fifty and
a half now forty nine, and they bet Atlanta when
it was as high as five and a half. Bills
are now a four and a half point road favorite,
and obviously we were going to talk more about the
Sunday night game Lions and Chiefs. Really good game total
of fifty three. I know that the total has been
something we've been talking about all week. We haven't moved
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higher than that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Have we hit the peak of that total, I don't know.
I mean there have not. I don't even see fifty
threes out there, so maybe we are at the peak,
but we haven't seen the buyback on the under yet,
so waiting to really see on how that total moves.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And then the side.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know, we at Kansas City minus one and a half,
we went up to two and a half on the game,
took some Lions money at two and a half. We're
now back on Chiefs minus two. So that seemed pretty
good two way action as well.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
What about it appeared that there there might have been
a pros versus Joe's situation in that Carolina Dallas game
as well, art where it looks like we saw a
whole lot of Dallas maybe lover but that line just
moved to Caroline.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Is it still there right right?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think if you look at Dallas, that's an interesting
spot for them, which that game basically is a look
adline was a pick em or Dallas minus one and
then for it to get to three. Listen, Caroline is
no good. But they are at home. Now you're you know,
now you have Dallas laying a field goal on the road.
Dalla's going to be very popular with the public.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We know that. So I think you know, any wise
guy who's out.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
There who wanted to look for a three, they're probably gonna,
you know, want to get that before it probably goes under.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The fool goal.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. I want to talk to
you conceptually about what Joe just mentioned, and that is
that how to spot sort of you know, smart money
versus public money. And then sticking on that Dallas game.
What what Joe is alluding to is Dallas was minus
(02:56):
three and a half, yet they're now three. Yet eighty
percent of the money is coming in on Dallas, seventy
three percent of the tickets on Dallas. So Art, can
we just stop for a second and maybe go deep
into that? So tons more money is coming in on Dallas,
(03:18):
most of the tickets being written on Dallas, yet the
line is moving in Carolina's direction. Could you explain that
to our listening audience.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Sure, I mean you could take ten bets and eight
or nine of them could be Dallas, But the one
or two bets you take on Carolina or you know
is someone you respect. I mean, you can have general
public players on the other side, yep, betting one side.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And you know it's funny too. Sometimes even you know
someone we.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Respect, it doesn't mean that they have to come in
here and put twenty K down on an NFL game
for us to move the number. It could be a
five K bet and we just see the market moving
that way and we respect that side and want a.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Book to that side. Sometimes that happens as well.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, So on that note, Art and I know you're
pressed for time on Fridays, but most people are sitting
there thinking, why aren't you looking for even money on
both sides? If if you're getting nine bets on one
side and one bet on the other, and those nine
dwarf the one, why are you moving in the direction
(04:23):
of the one bet.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's a great question. I think the oldest kind of
tail in the sportsbook industry is we want equal action
on every game. Obviously, sure you do, but that rarely happens.
You rarely get equal action. They say, most of the times,
you're lopsided on every game. You know, most of the
time you're in the seventy seventy five percent on one
(04:47):
side or the other, maybe sixty forty. You know, to
book NFL games all week, let's say there were no
buys and you have sixteen games, maybe you get one
that's like a fifty to fifty draw. It's that you
get that. I mean, yes, sure, would it be nice
for us to do that, of course, but it's rare
that you get those type of games.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yep, right, Yeah, what about major League baseball before we
go to college football? Because we got a pretty good
one here tonight in Game five between the Tigers.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And the Mariners. What are we seeing so far? Anything?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, could could we see a four and a
half before it's all said and done?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, it's a great it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Obviously, we have a total of five and a half
over minus one twenty Now when these guys picked the
last time, that's what the total was. You got a
first five of three juice to the under, minus one
twenty five to the under. You know, we were as
high as minus one thirty five on the Tigers we're
now sitting minus one twenty three. Now we do we
do deal a ten cent line, so we are pretty
(05:49):
fair on both sides. So you know, we're gonna be
a little bit lower on you know, kind of both
sides of that because we don't want to deal too
much out on the underdog. So you know, that line
crashing for us really wasn't because we took a ton
of Seattle money.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We're just trying to stay within market on that game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, before we turn our attention to college football.
And I want to go through both Friday nights, all
three Friday night games, and my headphones and tomorrow's card,
I want to ask you a question. My wife bets
on DraftKings. And last night there was an in game
bet on the Philly Kansas City game, a Philly New
(06:31):
York Giants game twenty seven to seventeen. Right when it happened,
Philadelphia was plus one forty two to win in game
and the Giants were minus one eighty eight. Is this
where the industry is right now? Where both of those
bets are so freaking horrible it's ridiculous, and there's a
(06:55):
forty five cent line in play? Is this like I was.
She was reading this to me of her own and
I was like, read that again.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
What there's people heading the button, isn't there?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh there's yeah, press. I can only speak to what
we do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And like I said, to us, dealing a ten cent
line in baseball, you still see in playoff baseball people
dealing thirty and thirty five forty cent line. So I mean,
were trying to stay as fair as we can.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Listen, there are some things you have to kind of
move with the times, and yeah, I think that's kind
of where it is headed. But you know, we're trying
to stay pat with dealing the fairest lines and splits
weekend yep.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I mean I literally turned to Vivian and said, both
those bets suck and normally one might be good. Yeah, yeah, Anyway,
I was in shock, and I don't bet with any
of those, you know, dk fds, So I don't see
these forty five set. Anyone who sees a forty five
(08:02):
cent line needs to go to a place where they
don't see a forty five sent line. Let's get into
some Friday night lights college football three games. Obviously the
big one is none of them. But with that said,
where's the money coming in.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Washington and Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We took early Washington money minus ten, went up to eleven,
then we took Rutgers money at eleven, so we've kind
of settled in the middle. The Presdent State Colorado State,
that's the least bet of the three games, really nothing
to speak of. The North Texas South Florida game is
actually a really good game, really big game for the
Power five schools. You know, one of those teams can
(08:43):
make a playoff run here, right. You know, we've seen
South Florida as a favorite in the game. We've seen
North Texas as a favorite in the game. We basically
were sitting at pick for the last day and a half.
This morning we moved to North Texas minus one and
a half on the game total is very high.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
In the game.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know Joe had mentioned that earlier in the week.
We have a total of sixty seven in that game. So,
like I said, we did move from pick to one
and a half on North Texas this morning.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Strength the schedule. That what that is all about. Right there?
In that game.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
There a couple of interesting ones also total wise, Air
Force UNLV as well as San Diego State Nevada and
of course UCLA is gonna win two in a row,
right art, What are you seeing on these.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, of course sharp money on unlv at minus six
and a half. We're now up to seven at home
against air Force. You mentioned the big totals sixty five
and a half on that game San Diego State and
Nevada gave is very interesting. We took sharp money at
six and a half and seven on San Diego State,
and then this morning when we were up to seven
and a half, we did see a sharp nibble on
Nevada at seven and a half, so we're back.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
To seven on that game.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That seemed pretty good two way action a lot of
times that happens with these seven games. When it's under
the touchdown, you get it. When it goes over the touchdown,
you get bunny as well. And then UCLA took money
a plus eight and a half Michigan State now seven
and a half at home. You would think there'd be
a letdown spot here for UCLA after their enormous win,
but they did at Ucla early in the week.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's why we had to move.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
All right, the season joining us Everyone, guys, if you
like what you're hearing. Take a second, literally a second
out of your day and hit that like button. Subscribe
to our channel. Make sure to comment. We had one
hundred and sixteen comments yesterday. So fun. The comments section
on our show is so fun. I read it, Art
(10:36):
reads it, Joe reads it. So please keep putting those
comments up and listen. We got our parlay of the day.
It's a three team NFL parlay. What is yours? So
put up in the comment section your three team NFL parlay.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Art.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm going to start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers miyus
against San fran I will explain that bet later. But
the Tapa Bay Buccaneers minus three for me?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Ooh you like Art, I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm gonna take the Bears on Monday Night plus four
and a half coming off the buy. Caleb and that
team have gotten better every week. I know Washington's good,
but overfield goals too many. Give me the Bears plus
four and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Wow. All right, you guys are gonna make this difficult.
Not really Chargers money line for me, guys, make it
simple here. I do not trust anything about the Dolphins
or the defense. I'll take the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
On the money line.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, yeah, that makes sense to me. And off of
a bad loss to Boot, there we go Art to Caesar.
You have yourself a wonderful day. Brother. I hope Westgate
wins every bet they make they take, except for obviously Joe,
Mine and our clients. Be good. We'll see you on Tuesday.
(11:55):
Thanks for doing this many art, but yeah, art to
see that. That was a killer segment, Joe. We're so
lucky to have this guy and the people in the
chat room are understanding the importance of art and the
information that he provides us. Brother, we're going to get
to our NFL bets, yours and mine. You're going to
(12:16):
do an MLB rundown. There's no NHL today, and we'll
go through the mail bag section before we get into
any of that. We both Joe and I have a
big weekend planned. Yes, it's time for some business. Joe's
promo is uh, what's the promo code?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You might want to put that in there by the way, Joe,
there you go seven and you get seven days for
sixty nine dollars. That includes Joe's baseball, NFL, college football,
and are you betting NHL this year?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Of course it is every time that you bet against
the Panthers, you'll know exactly where I'm going, So yes,
I will, But I'm like you, I don't want nothing
to do with the craziness the first couple of days
and byway schedule at NHL and batement. Great job, give
us ninety eight games yesterday and nothing today with just
one Yeah, great, great job.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And there's no sport going on today except for a
baseball game in two small markets, like what ridiculous? Not
one single hockey game, like they couldn't put like Ov
versus Crosby or McKinnon versus Connor like some showcase moment.
(13:41):
I mean, okay, Ov versus Crosby wouldn't be a showcase
maybe so, but yeah, but you get my point. You
get my point anyway. My promo is PRES one ninety nine.
That's thirty day all access. A bunch of you guys
took advantage of that today, and that's because I have
(14:03):
a five percent playoff in baseball tonight. So instead of
paying the thirty five bucks for my baseball play, grab
a month of all my plays. I went two and
o last night in hockey, so I'm back two and
three to start the season. So the wins are coming.
My NFL football I won last night. I had the over.
(14:24):
That one was easy. Sixty three percent on the season,
and college football is slightly underprofit, but lots still to come.
Pres one nine nine, okay, brother, four segments to go
two minutes each. Okay, guys, two NFL bets. Let's get
into it. I told you, guys, I like Tampa Bay
and the parlay of the day, and I said, I
(14:45):
talk about it here. I actually gave out Tampa Bay
earlier in the week. So we're going to get to
two totals. But I really do like the Tampa Bay
Bucks against San Francisco. And you want to hear all
my thoughts on every single NFL game on the check
out the NFL Presidential Address. It's about a twenty minute
long show. It's up at wager Talk TV, and I
(15:08):
go through every single game on the board. Here are
my two totals, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. We're gonna look at
under the total and that makes total sense to me. Look,
I understand head to head, these guys, strangely have been
putting up scores forty one last time they played forty
three the time before. They've gone over the total like
six of their last seven or five of their last six.
(15:30):
This is a whole different team personally. We've got a
Cleveland defense that really is playing some exceptional ball. Now,
I understand twenty one was put up by Minnesota seven
at the very end of that game, but they really
really played good. The thirty four against Detroit is a
bit oney as well. They held Detroit down with three quarters.
This Pittsburgh offense is not great. The Cleveland offense is horrible.
(15:55):
Pittsburgh's defense is not played outstanding yet. But I think
we're gonna a huge improvement, and we already have seen
an improvement in their last two games. Thirty eight and
a half is just too high. Take the under as
far as the over goes. Take that. In the La
Rams Baltimore game, now, I understand, who the hell's gonna
score on Baltimore. Well, they're gonna get ten to seventeen points.
(16:18):
But defensively, they've allowed forty four to thirty seven, thirty eight, seventeen,
and forty one and twenty seven. So in their last
six games, well five games. In their last five games,
four of them were over thirty seven points. The Rams
are gonna get them some and defensively the Rams have
(16:39):
allowed twenty six twenty thirty three. They're not as good
a defensive unit as we thought. That is a very
low total for a Baltimore game, forty four and a half.
Take the over, Joe, I like that one.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Pres for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
All Right, I'm gonna focus on a couple of games,
and I think one of them is gross. But it
really isn't because I think the line is off here.
And that's the New England Patriots laying three and a
half here on the road against the New Orleans Saints.
And while a lot of people appoint and say, well,
isn't this a flat spot? And you know after beating
(17:14):
Buffalo on the road now that they got yes, they
do if they were playing anybody else other than the
New Orleans Saints. And this to me is all about
the injuries in the secondary right now.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
With the Saints.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They'll have backup safeties and two backup cornerbacks in this
game here, which means they're gonna have to play off
the ball. They're gonna have to protect what's gonna happen
here with none other than Stefan Diggs, who's coming off
one hundred and forty six receiving yards. He's gonna have
a fourth round backup cornerback trying to cover him. I
(17:48):
don't think this is gonna work out. New Orleans the
second most run heavy offense in the NFL right now,
how do you think that's gonna work against that Patriots
run defense. Don't trust Spencer Rattler, you damn right. I
trust Drake May and of course Josh McDaniels, who's.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Doing a great job with him. I think this number
is short.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I am all over the Patriots in this game here,
Prez and the other absolutely disgusting game that we're gonna
go with here has to do with while the Raiders
and the Titans. I like the over in this game.
I think this game is a little bit undervalued in
the total. I think Gino Smith and company. They're gonna
(18:30):
have to run the ball, They're gonna have to throw
the ball to as well at home. I think the
only way that they're able to get it done here
is they're gonna have to put up twenty eight to
thirty five points somewhere in that ballpark there, and with
all the injuries to that secondary of the Raiders would
not shock me if Tennessee builds off that win pres
(18:51):
and we get more than the forty one and a
half points that they're saying we're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Joseph, well done, good job. Let's keep it moving. MLB
rundown one game. Why don't you throw in your huge
bet you made on the Toronto Blue Jays plus three
hundred to win it all.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'm looking for that. No, I don't have that press,
but I will tell you about this big game. We
talked to Art earlier. Of course, winner take all. The
reality of this game is that if there's been one
team that has had success against Tarik school Ball this season,
it has been the Mariners. They've done an amazing job.
(19:32):
They have somehow figured out the Rubet's cube, that is
to Reek School bull three times in four tries this season,
including twice at home. We're talking about school has got
a five point nine to one ERRA. It's the highest
against any team in Major League Baseball with at least
a minimum of ten innings pitch this season. I oh,
(19:52):
By the way, Seattle at te Mobile Park have been
pretty good over the last couple of seasons, one hundred wins,
only sixty two loss and don't sleep on George Kirby either.
He already faced this team in game one and outside
of a Kerry Carpenter two run home run, struck out
eight guys. I don't see why we should think we're
(20:14):
going to get anything even remotely close to some sort
of crazy high scoring affair here. I know the total
is five and a half. I think it's gonna keep
going down. Quite honestly, would not shock me in a
winner take all spot, much like you watched last night
with Philadelphia and the Dodgers, which by the way, cashed
(20:35):
our five percent bet. Earlier this week we gave you
to Dodgers to win in four games as our five
percent best bet. They did that last night in a
two to one game, and pres would all you know, winner.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Take all for all the marbles and all.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Hands on deck would not shock me at all if
we have exactly what we got last night, where this
is a two to one game, one nothing kind of
game when it is all said and done. So to me,
it's an absolute under tonight in that one.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So to summarize, I'm hearing you say bet the over.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yes only in the first ending though run score in
the first ding definitely yes, No, don't do that, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Let's get to our mail bag section of the show
right off the bat. One of our listeners asked if
I can do an NHL section like we do our
present our NFL bets in our college football bets, So,
in other words, isolate one NFL bet or two NFL bets. No,
but what I will do is I will isolate a
(21:38):
bet inside of the NHL rundown moving forward. So I
will run down every game and I will single out
my favorite bet in that environment, so kind of like
a compromise, if you will. Okay, Joe, we asked everybody
yesterday to put up the dogs that they think we're
going to win. Now I've put them into two sections. Okay,
(22:02):
The Dolphins, the Lions, and the Panthers were mentioned many
many times. Out of those three teams, I pick the Lions,
then the Panthers, then the Dolphins in that order as
the chance for the upset you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I kind of like all three of those teams in
any sort of teaser situation this week. Quite honestly, I
don't like the Dolphins defense at home. I don't trust
them at all against that Chargers defense. I think Carolina
the only place that you can bet them pres is
when they play at home, and that's exactly what they're
and that's a pro versus Joe's game for sure. And
(22:48):
Detroit same thing. If you want to give me Detroit,
that's a high total though. But if you want to
give meet Detroit at what eight somewhere along those lines
eight and a half, I'm good to go with that too.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah. I mean the problem with teasing both Carolina and
Miami is that neither of them fit the Wong strategy. Okay,
my next one is the most common one. Two was
Cleveland and Baltimore. Which team of those two is most
(23:21):
likely to pull the upset? Cleveland or Baltimore. I picked Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I agree Baltimore absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Baltimore will not be They are not going to get
run over. And I'll tell you why A Hamilton is
back now. They're all pro safety. He'll be playing, and
so will they're all pro left tackle.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
He'll be back in as well for this game.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So they are getting healthier, just not with Lamar, but
as long as they've got other key guys on the defense,
I'm good to go with back in them here.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I couldn't agree with you more, brother, that's the show.
This was a fun week. Listen everybody real quick. On
Monday's show, Brian Power will be joining us. Yes, our
first guest. And what we're going to do moving forward
is we're going to bring a guest on Monday only
(24:11):
Art is with us Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we'll bring
a guest on on Monday to talk Monday Night football
with Joe and I and then next Thursday and Friday,
I will be in Montreal playing in the Canadian Poker Championships.
So Brian Power will actually be sitting in my chair
(24:33):
hosting this show. I handpicked Brian Power to sit in
my chair and do my stick. So put up in
the comment section if you thought I picked wrong or right,
Joe Man, think Sexy Devil the Best? When are you
(24:55):
putting music to that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's coming next week when you get back, it'll be here.
But yes, I am looking forward to destroying Brian Power
on Monday Press Actually, so yes him ship, I am
looking absolutely wonderful you and him of wonderful chemistry, and
he's and he's a quirky, entertaining communicator.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
So yes, you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Trying to keep the show fun.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yes, I can't wait it I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'll get the hell out of here by everyone kicking.
It's all win together
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