September 25, 2025 • 25 mins
September 25, 2025: Welcome to the Best Betting Show Ever featuring The Prez, Joe Raineri, and Art DiCesare! The Best Betting Show Ever is your ultimate destination for NFL and college football betting picks, predictions, odds, and best bets all season long! 🏈💰
On today's episode, Prez, Joe and Art discuss where money is going so far in College Football Week 5 and NFL Week 4, as well as a free picks for today's MLB slate!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
01:34 WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING CFB
04:47 WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING NFL
05:47 TNF: SEATTLE VS ARIZONA PICKS
10:19 CFB PARLAY OF THE DAY
15:27 PREZ CFB BEST BETS
17:26 JOE'S CFB BEST BET
19:45 MLB RUNDOWN
21:25 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS
On today's episode, Prez, Joe and Art discuss where money is going so far in College Football Week 5 and NFL Week 4, as well as a free picks for today's MLB slate!
00:00 INTRODUCTION
01:34 WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING CFB
04:47 WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING NFL
05:47 TNF: SEATTLE VS ARIZONA PICKS
10:19 CFB PARLAY OF THE DAY
15:27 PREZ CFB BEST BETS
17:26 JOE'S CFB BEST BET
19:45 MLB RUNDOWN
21:25 MAILBAG! VIEWER QUESTIONS
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seattle on the road playing Arizona, sixty one percent of
the money coming in on Seattle, it's up to minus
one and a half, seventy six percent on the under,
it's down to forty three. We're gonna tell you exactly
how to make money on that game. We're gonna delve
into the college football game that's going tonight. We're gonna
(00:21):
take apart the entire MLB card and Joe and myself
have got two college football and NFL best bets for you, plus,
of course, our parlay of the day. If you faded
all three yesterday, you had a winner. Joe Naii, Art
de Caesar, How are you boys, Art? What's going on
over at the west Gate now?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Much press? Ready to roll on a fun weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, Art, we all three lost our parlay of the
day yesterday, and you know, I'd rather all three of
us lose than just me. Feels better, I would agree. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't have that graphic, by the way, I'm just
throwing that out there. I don't know what happened to it. Art.
I had it lined up and I just I can't
find the graphic.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I just want to shout out, we have a mail
bag section. Every day you guys put comments up we
talk about him. Yesterday we had a person put up
a comment about how his female boss was looking over
his shoulder saw Joe Naii and well, Joe, do you
want to shout her out at all? Maybe give her
(01:27):
your phone number and email address. You guys could go
on a date there you go called Jo Naii.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Art.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How do we How do we look at this college
football game tonight East Carolina Army? What kind of bets
are you're taking on this game? And what should we
do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's a very interesting game, Army at East Carolina. Our
early initial money came in on East Carolina at minus
three and a half. That was Monday morning. We got
all the way up to five on the game. Then
the Army buy back game five and four and a half.
We're now four on the game, so all the late
Army money has kind of overwhelmed the early East Carolina money.
(02:10):
We'll need East Carolina in the game, really no much.
Not much as far as movement on the total goes
or need on the total. And just a couple of
quick Saturday games to just throw out there. Indiana goes
to Iowa. Indiana is a seven and a half point
road favorite. They laid seven with Indiana, they took eight
with Iowa. That's why we're in the middle game of
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the year. Line on that boys was Iowa minus one,
so there's been a huge adjustment on that. And then
you have to mention this game just because the line
is ridiculous. Ucla goes to Northwestern. Northwestern is a six
point favorite. Ucla obviously has fired their coach. Usually that's
(02:52):
a good angle next game after the coach gets fired.
But it's just it's of note that Northwestern is such
a big favorite against UCLA.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's kind of crazy, art because they haven't been a
favorite since the COVID year of more than six points,
and that was against Illinois and they've been a train
wreck ever since. It's are you seeing any money on
the total side too, as well? Because I gotta feel
like there's gonna be money coming in on Ucla late
in this one. I think.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think that's the thing, because we really haven't seen
money either way, Joe, But I think eventually we will
see people take the six and I think people are
gonna take shots with Ucla on the money line as well,
because you know that's gonna be a nice plus price
basically like a two dollars price on a team that
you know, like we said, shouldn't be that big of
a dog. Obviously it has not gone well from UCLA
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early year, but man, that line is just seems out
of whack.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
All right, this hea'son enjoining us everyone, guys, hit that
like button. Hit it twice. Please subscribe to our channel
and make sure to put up some comments. The word
of the day is coffee. Coffee. I freaking love coffee.
You guys, where are you at with coffee?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I have the ip right here, fress double express own
expresso machine hooked up next to me.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A friend of mine prefers drip coffee over anything anyway.
College football tomorrow, we're going to discuss Oregon, Penn State, Bama,
Uga and Auburn and A and M. Is that correct? Art?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh yeah, we could definitely talk about the big games
again see some movement. But there's also three Friday games,
so we'll touch a log as well. Yeah yeah, well no,
we should definitely revisit kind of where the money has
shifted over the week with those big games, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, okay, so make sure to tune in tomorrow. Let's
talk NFL, and before we get into tonight's game, art,
let's look at the overall picture. What's going on with
Sunday and Monday. Any big bets you've made, you've taken
and that we need to know about. Let's stay conceptual
with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean, just before we touch on a Thursday game,
a couple of games that we just really have not
hit on this week. Washington goes to Atlanta and is
now a pick them. Obviously, we're booking the game assuming
that Daniels doesn't play on a look aheadline. If Daniels
was playing, that would be two two and a half
three for Washington when we had it at one. We
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took sharp money on Atlanta at plus one and on
the money line, so right now Washington will be a
need for us. Colts go to the ram That was
a look aheadline of six and a half. It's now
three and a half. Obviously the Colts have really been
upgraded in the power rankings a lot of over money
as well. We were forty eight now forty nine and
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a half on that game.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Okay, let's talk to night Seattle against Arizona, and I know, Joe,
you have a playoff for your clients tonight. I don't, guys,
I really struggle to find any thing in this game,
and I spent a lot of time. I mean I
went from sides to totals, to team totals to prop bets,
and you know, my issue here is that I don't
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know who these teams are. We got an Arizona team
that defensively has been outstanding, except they haven't played anybody.
We have an Arizona team that could score really fast
once a game. We have a Seattle team that has
a quarterback that could lay an egg in a minute
or go eleven for fourteen with two hundred and two tds.
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I find a lot of inconsistencies with both of these teams.
I'm gonna lay off this game completely. Joe, what do
you like? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I want to art walk me through what we've seen
from where this open to where we are right now,
because it feels like the Joe's and the pros are
on the same side here this week, and this numbers
is not even higher before kick.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, yeah, I mean look aheadline on this was Cardinals
two and a half. Obviously we're Seattle one and a half.
Now totals really come down as well. You know, on
a look ahead, we were forty six, we're now forty three.
We're gonna need Arizona in the game, unless something comes
in late or we get overwhelmed at some point with
some Arizona money, which I don't see. More of the
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Arizona bets have been little nibbles, the real sharp respected money,
and even the public nickel bets, you know, the five
hundred dollars bets that were taken from general public players
have been on Seattle. So Arizona's gonna be a need
for us, no doubt. And a couple of props I
want to throw out there that we've seen good money on.
We see Trey Benson, Trey Benson under rushing guards fifty
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eight and a half and fifty six and a half
were now fifty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And Joe and.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Kyler Murray his rushing yards under thirty and a half.
We're now twenty seven and a half. So both those
Cardinals they think will go under their rushing total.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, Joe, we've.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Seen a lot of money pouring on Seattle. Is this
a reflection of their outstanding victory against the Saskatchewan rough
Riders last week or is this more a play against
Arizona who beat the Edmonton Elks last week? That you
(08:18):
get my point.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, I get your point, But I think it's a combination.
I mean, number one, you're talking about under coach McDonald
since he's taken over Seattle, they're eight and one straight up,
five and three against the number when playing on the road. Wow,
they have absolutely dominated this matchup too. With Gannon and Murray.
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Murray can't beat them. The Cardinals are three and ten
against division opponents under Gannon. They are not. This is
not a spot that I want to back the Cardinals
or Kyler Murray, especially given the fact that they are
so banged up. They got cluster injuries on the offensive
line right now, and their secondary is a mess. They've
got three starters, two of which likely aren't playing here.
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One is questionable. They are very vulnerable right now. And
keep in mind pressed they just lost to the backups
of the forty nine ers. The backups, no Bosa, no party,
no nothing, and they couldn't get anything done there. This
is the healthiest Seattle's defense, by the way. They're getting
Witherspoon back, They're getting their safety back and they rushed
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the quarterback better than anybody. So to me, this is
a bad spot to look for Arizona to do good things.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Jesus Art, I think I'm talked into Seattle here. Oh yeah, yeah,
that was a hell of a breakdown, Joe NII just
saying saying, okay, so there we go. Art gave you
guys two prop bets, although you missed both of them.
Would have been nicer to know him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean, you know, it's smoove. I'll only giving you
the information. Listen, you can go find different numbers. I mean,
you know, we just are low one pension now because
of the money we've taken. We got hit twice on them.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, guys, let's turn our attention to the parlay of
the day and then Art, there is a question I've
got to find from one of our listeners for you
that I do want to go through. But the parlay
of the day college football, Thursday, three legs, all college.
I will start with Houston minus thirteen and a half.
(10:30):
They're playing Oregon State. I will break this game down later,
but that is my leg one of our college football parlay.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Joe, that's impressive there Art, let me get to you
here so we can get you the hell out of here,
because I know you got places to go, and then
I'll clean it up. And since we lost this yesterday,
let's mix it up here. Who you going with?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm going to take Washington at home plus eight. I
know Ohio State's one of the best teams in the country,
but they got to go on the right with a
young quarterback. I think Washington's a little bit better than
people think. That's not an easy place to play. I'm
getting over a touchdown. Give me the Huskies plus e nice.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'll explain this game a little bit later as well, though,
but give me the Duke Blue Devils on the road
against a over hype Syracuse who just lost their starting
quarterback for the year with Achilles Tair. I'll lay it
with Duke here press there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We go, and that is your parlay of the day. Art, Caesar,
I know you're up against it real quick. Raid Jommy
seven four eight seven interesting name creative parents they he
wants to know. Do humans set the lines or is
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it a I I think you got some kick ass
computers back in that room. That's what he writes. Now
we don't need the specific to the Westgate, but you
can answer it specific to the West Gate or overall.
Who's adding the lines these days? Is it AI or
human beings?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, you know, I can only speak for the room
I sit in, and it's humans.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm sure there are other places that use a lot
of different models. They might use some AI. But as
I think you boys know, we're a pretty old school
book where you know, don't get me wrong, we look
at the markets and we have all that going on.
But you know, we put up NFL lines a week
ahead of time. You know, there's no other lines out there.
It's us putting our lines up, adjusting our numbers, obviously,
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adjusting and booking to the sides we need from respected
and sharp money. So we're still pretty old school in
that regard where it's really the human element for us
at the West Gate.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Great question seven four eight seven Art, thank you for
doing this.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen, I hope you guys win at the Westgate. Every
single bed except the ones Joe myself and all our
clients make and our listeners and our viewers and well
basically everybody. So you know what I detract. I hope
you get killed get out of here Art to Caesar.
Everyone see him tomorrow, same time. Guys, hit that like button.
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Speaker 3 (14:41):
We can't.
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We cannot provide free content without being able to pay
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right, I agree a lot of games here, Eric Prez.
It's only going to get crazier as the college hoops
and the NHL is just a round the corner as well,
So buckle up. Going to be a fun couple of months.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to do the NHL rundown like
you're doing the baseball rundown. I'm gonna do the NHL rundown.
You'll do the NBA rundown. We'll get somebody else to
do the college basketball rundown and we'll put them on air.
They'll just talk at nauseum for four months because there's
pretty much no other way to do a college basketball rundown. Brother,
(15:23):
we got or segments left two minutes each college football
best bets Q that clock. I got two college football
best bets to give you, guys. Let's start right off
the bat with Houston minus thirteen and a half against
Oregon State, and I think this might be the biggest
mismatch on the entire board. This Oregon State Beavers team
is horrendous on both sides of the ball. They might
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be statistically, no, they are statistically the worst team in
the country. They have the one hundred and twenty six
best offense or the one hundred and twenty six worst offense.
They are one hundred and twenty nine in preventing scores.
That is as bad as it gets. And now they're
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playing a Houston team that is three to zero on
the season, coming off of a bye, feeling good about themselves,
and ready to totally annihilate this Houston team. I don't
understand this line at all. I think it's at least
three to six points short.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Many like I would say that this line should be
probably minus seventeen and a half. When all said it done,
I think Houston blows Oregon State out. Take Houston minus
thirteen and a half all the way up to seventeen.
Ole miss on the money line against LSU. Look this
LSU team. Everyone thinks they're good. They just beat Clemson
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in Florida. Clemson and Florida are a combined one and
six against real football teams, and I mean real football
teams one and six. By this Ole Miss team, They're
an absolute bustle. The Rebels are averaging seven and a
half yards per play. They don't even have a punter.
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They are explosive, they are consistent. I don't know how
LSU stops this team. I love Ole Miss on the
money line. Here take Houston minus thirteen and a half
Ole Miss on the money line, and Joe, what do
we do with your two games?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I like that? Praz all right, we're gonna start with
that Duke Syracuse game I talked about a little bit earlier,
and listen, I'm shocked this isn't a little bit more.
It appears that the public has fallen in love because
they watched Syracuse dismantle Clemson while News slash Clemson isn't
that good. And unfortunately, I might have been on the
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same page, would have had they not lost their starting
quarterbacks Steve and Gali there with an achilles injury for
the season. It's not like he won. Isn't a big
part of what this team was doing. He's thrown for
over thirteen hundred yards. He had ten touchdowns on the
season before that injury. And yes, we've talked about Duke
a lot on this show, Prez, but the reality is
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this is a real offense that's capable of putting up
a ton of points. That means Syracuse is gonna have
to play from behind in this game. I like Duke
to get it done in this one. And the complete
opposite is going to take center stage when San Diego State,
Prez takes on Northern Illinois. Yes, Northern Illinois. Now, San
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Diego State did the unthinkable. They just shut out California
at home last game, thirty four to nothing. It also
helped that California turn the ball over nine hundred times
in that game and gave San Diego State short fields.
But now they're traveling to a different time zone for
the first time this year. The Huskies awful offense, defense real,
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they always have a good defense. Don't see a ton
of points coming in this game here, Prez. I also
watched San Diego State only score thirteen points against an
awful Washington State team so I think the easy play
here is back to defenses. Expect less scoring forty three
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forty three and a half is the prevailing number here.
I am looking at the under when it comes to
San Diego State and Northern Illinois this weekend, Pres.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Joe, Yesterday you did an MLB rundown. I think you
were seventy percent yes, top to bottom. So you gave
out a lot of winners yesterday. The MLB season is
winding down, the playoffs start next week, A lot of
dramas still in play. How do we bet this card?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
All right? Pres? So? A couple of things that are
going on right now here in Major League Baseball Afternoon Baseball,
Reds and Pirates, as well as the o's in the Rays,
most likely going to be done by the time we're
finished here. In the meantime, though, Twins and Range. Is
Tyler Moley back on the mound against Bailey over who
has been horrific. I think the Rangers keep rolling here.
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The Astros have been horrific, and they're sending Framber Valdez
to the mound, who's also been terrible, down to stretch
for him. The problem is they can't score any runs.
If you can't score runs, can't win games. I like
the Athletics to get it done once again. Diamondbacks going
up against Yamamoto. It's a bullpen game for the Diamondbacks.
They lost in extras. Still keeping pace with the Mets.
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I'm gonna take the Diamondbacks here to get it done
this afternoon. The Marlins and the Phillies junk against Bueller,
junk against Yeah, that's an over. I'm just gonna go
with the over in that one. Prez. Tigers can't win
a game to save their lives. Guardians again, especially against
the Tigers, so I'll be back in the Guardians. The
Yankees will destroy the White Socks the Red Sox and
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they might be in trouble in this one here with bo.
I think the Blue Jays finally bounce back, get one,
don't avoid the sweet to the Red Sox and keep
pace with the Yankees. The Mets will be the Cobbs.
The Mariners, even though they clinched and are probably still hungover,
likely still to beat the Rockies here tonight. The Royals,
with Lorenzen on the mound, should be able to get
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it done against the Angels and press that which just
a couple of days left here in the Major League
Baseball season. Is our rundown here for today, A lot
of afternoon baseball here today.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Guz go Blue Jays, Joe, we got a little extra time.
We got some juicy stuff in this mailbag section. Let's go. So,
one of our listeners' rights a really interesting question, and
I'm going to answer it, and then I'd like you
to answer it. And what that question is is have
you ever gotten to the point where you're just tired
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of betting on games? It's such a grind. So two
quick things to that. One. This is what most of
us do for a living, So it would be the
equivalent of saying, have you ever gotten tired of being
a construction worker? Have you ever gotten tired of going
to work and being a teacher, or a marketing assistant
or a bank manager. Yes, yes, we're all tired of
(22:06):
our jobs. With that said, I don't spend my nights
watching sports anymore, Joe, I almost never watch college basketball,
I almost never watch NBA, and I almost never watch
Major League Baseball, and I for sure never watch college football.
So I can win in all those sports by studying
(22:28):
the numbers, understanding what's going on I'm not living inside
of that grind anymore. I was for the first like
ten to fifteen years. You know I've slowed down.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You yeah, well to me. I mean the ultimate grind
sports wise is major League Baseball when you have one
hundred and sixty two game season, and I love it.
I've always loved the game of baseball, played the game
of baseball, and I love Major League Baseball this season
here because there's a lot of new ice is an
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intricacy throughout one hundred and sixty two game season that
give you an opportunity to get edges on a consistent basis.
The problem is you can't handicap that's for two weeks,
take three weeks off, come back for a week, and
then think you're going to have any consistency. So the
guys who truly enjoyed the grind are probably some of
the better Major League Baseball handicappers that you'll meet. Press
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here you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Go, guys, right questions, we'll answer them. Joe, I want
to read one last thing. I know we're out of time,
and so be it. Nick s Rights. Most betters are
meat heads, and pres is a hippie meet head. Now, Joe,
I don't know what a meathead is. I don't know
if that's a good thing. I do know what a
meathead is, but I want to just give my response
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quick and sort of Mike drop my way out of here.
So I'm a hippie meathead that has built and sold
five businesses. I'm a hippie meathead that retired at forty eight.
I'm a hippie meathead that owns one of the owners
of wager Talk, and a hippie meathead that owns a
playhouse in Whistler. Joe, I'm the hippie meathead that all
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of you guys want to be.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Brad, I think we just read it wrong. I think
maybe many meant meathead was that extremely successful individual here.
That's I think that's what he meant. Yah, I'm pretty
sure we eat meat, correct correct meat.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm a I'm a wagoo meat Oh wow, wagoo meathead
like that. I love you guys. That was a great
post man. It was funny. I know you're not starting
with me. What a fun show. Everybody. Make sure to
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Sp I will see you tomorrow
Seattle on the road playing Arizona, sixty one percent of
the money coming in on Seattle, it's up to minus
one and a half, seventy six percent on the under,
it's down to forty three. We're gonna tell you exactly
how to make money on that game. We're gonna delve
into the college football game that's going tonight. We're gonna
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take apart the entire MLB card and Joe and myself
have got two college football and NFL best bets for you, plus,
of course, our parlay of the day. If you faded
all three yesterday, you had a winner. Joe Naii, Art
de Caesar, How are you boys, Art? What's going on
over at the west Gate now?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Much press? Ready to roll on a fun weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, Art, we all three lost our parlay of the
day yesterday, and you know, I'd rather all three of
us lose than just me. Feels better, I would agree. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't have that graphic, by the way, I'm just
throwing that out there. I don't know what happened to it. Art.
I had it lined up and I just I can't
find the graphic.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I just want to shout out, we have a mail
bag section. Every day you guys put comments up we
talk about him. Yesterday we had a person put up
a comment about how his female boss was looking over
his shoulder saw Joe Naii and well, Joe, do you
want to shout her out at all? Maybe give her
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your phone number and email address. You guys could go
on a date there you go called Jo Naii.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Art.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How do we How do we look at this college
football game tonight East Carolina Army? What kind of bets
are you're taking on this game? And what should we
do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's a very interesting game, Army at East Carolina. Our
early initial money came in on East Carolina at minus
three and a half. That was Monday morning. We got
all the way up to five on the game. Then
the Army buy back game five and four and a half.
We're now four on the game, so all the late
Army money has kind of overwhelmed the early East Carolina money.
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We'll need East Carolina in the game, really no much.
Not much as far as movement on the total goes
or need on the total. And just a couple of
quick Saturday games to just throw out there. Indiana goes
to Iowa. Indiana is a seven and a half point
road favorite. They laid seven with Indiana, they took eight
with Iowa. That's why we're in the middle game of
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the year. Line on that boys was Iowa minus one,
so there's been a huge adjustment on that. And then
you have to mention this game just because the line
is ridiculous. Ucla goes to Northwestern. Northwestern is a six
point favorite. Ucla obviously has fired their coach. Usually that's
(02:52):
a good angle next game after the coach gets fired.
But it's just it's of note that Northwestern is such
a big favorite against UCLA.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's kind of crazy, art because they haven't been a
favorite since the COVID year of more than six points,
and that was against Illinois and they've been a train
wreck ever since. It's are you seeing any money on
the total side too, as well? Because I gotta feel
like there's gonna be money coming in on Ucla late
in this one. I think.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think that's the thing, because we really haven't seen
money either way, Joe, But I think eventually we will
see people take the six and I think people are
gonna take shots with Ucla on the money line as well,
because you know that's gonna be a nice plus price
basically like a two dollars price on a team that
you know, like we said, shouldn't be that big of
a dog. Obviously it has not gone well from UCLA
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early year, but man, that line is just seems out
of whack.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
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Speaker 3 (04:09):
I have the ip right here, fress double express own
expresso machine hooked up next to me.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A friend of mine prefers drip coffee over anything anyway.
College football tomorrow, we're going to discuss Oregon, Penn State, Bama,
Uga and Auburn and A and M. Is that correct? Art?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh yeah, we could definitely talk about the big games
again see some movement. But there's also three Friday games,
so we'll touch a log as well. Yeah yeah, well no,
we should definitely revisit kind of where the money has
shifted over the week with those big games, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, okay, so make sure to tune in tomorrow. Let's
talk NFL, and before we get into tonight's game, art,
let's look at the overall picture. What's going on with
Sunday and Monday. Any big bets you've made, you've taken
and that we need to know about. Let's stay conceptual
with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean, just before we touch on a Thursday game,
a couple of games that we just really have not
hit on this week. Washington goes to Atlanta and is
now a pick them. Obviously, we're booking the game assuming
that Daniels doesn't play on a look aheadline. If Daniels
was playing, that would be two two and a half
three for Washington when we had it at one. We
(05:26):
took sharp money on Atlanta at plus one and on
the money line, so right now Washington will be a
need for us. Colts go to the ram That was
a look aheadline of six and a half. It's now
three and a half. Obviously the Colts have really been
upgraded in the power rankings a lot of over money
as well. We were forty eight now forty nine and
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a half on that game.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Okay, let's talk to night Seattle against Arizona, and I know, Joe,
you have a playoff for your clients tonight. I don't, guys,
I really struggle to find any thing in this game,
and I spent a lot of time. I mean I
went from sides to totals, to team totals to prop bets,
and you know, my issue here is that I don't
(06:10):
know who these teams are. We got an Arizona team
that defensively has been outstanding, except they haven't played anybody.
We have an Arizona team that could score really fast
once a game. We have a Seattle team that has
a quarterback that could lay an egg in a minute
or go eleven for fourteen with two hundred and two tds.
(06:36):
I find a lot of inconsistencies with both of these teams.
I'm gonna lay off this game completely. Joe, what do
you like? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I want to art walk me through what we've seen
from where this open to where we are right now,
because it feels like the Joe's and the pros are
on the same side here this week, and this numbers
is not even higher before kick.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, yeah, I mean look aheadline on this was Cardinals
two and a half. Obviously we're Seattle one and a half.
Now totals really come down as well. You know, on
a look ahead, we were forty six, we're now forty three.
We're gonna need Arizona in the game, unless something comes
in late or we get overwhelmed at some point with
some Arizona money, which I don't see. More of the
(07:21):
Arizona bets have been little nibbles, the real sharp respected money,
and even the public nickel bets, you know, the five
hundred dollars bets that were taken from general public players
have been on Seattle. So Arizona's gonna be a need
for us, no doubt. And a couple of props I
want to throw out there that we've seen good money on.
We see Trey Benson, Trey Benson under rushing guards fifty
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eight and a half and fifty six and a half
were now fifty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And Joe and.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Kyler Murray his rushing yards under thirty and a half.
We're now twenty seven and a half. So both those
Cardinals they think will go under their rushing total.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, Joe, we've.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Seen a lot of money pouring on Seattle. Is this
a reflection of their outstanding victory against the Saskatchewan rough
Riders last week or is this more a play against
Arizona who beat the Edmonton Elks last week? That you
(08:18):
get my point.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, I get your point, But I think it's a combination.
I mean, number one, you're talking about under coach McDonald
since he's taken over Seattle, they're eight and one straight up,
five and three against the number when playing on the road. Wow,
they have absolutely dominated this matchup too. With Gannon and Murray.
(08:39):
Murray can't beat them. The Cardinals are three and ten
against division opponents under Gannon. They are not. This is
not a spot that I want to back the Cardinals
or Kyler Murray, especially given the fact that they are
so banged up. They got cluster injuries on the offensive
line right now, and their secondary is a mess. They've
got three starters, two of which likely aren't playing here.
(09:02):
One is questionable. They are very vulnerable right now. And
keep in mind pressed they just lost to the backups
of the forty nine ers. The backups, no Bosa, no party,
no nothing, and they couldn't get anything done there. This
is the healthiest Seattle's defense, by the way. They're getting
Witherspoon back, They're getting their safety back and they rushed
(09:25):
the quarterback better than anybody. So to me, this is
a bad spot to look for Arizona to do good things.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Jesus Art, I think I'm talked into Seattle here. Oh yeah, yeah,
that was a hell of a breakdown, Joe NII just
saying saying, okay, so there we go. Art gave you
guys two prop bets, although you missed both of them.
Would have been nicer to know him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean, you know, it's smoove. I'll only giving you
the information. Listen, you can go find different numbers. I mean,
you know, we just are low one pension now because
of the money we've taken. We got hit twice on them.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, guys, let's turn our attention to the parlay of
the day and then Art, there is a question I've
got to find from one of our listeners for you
that I do want to go through. But the parlay
of the day college football, Thursday, three legs, all college.
I will start with Houston minus thirteen and a half.
(10:30):
They're playing Oregon State. I will break this game down later,
but that is my leg one of our college football parlay.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Joe, that's impressive there Art, let me get to you
here so we can get you the hell out of here,
because I know you got places to go, and then
I'll clean it up. And since we lost this yesterday,
let's mix it up here. Who you going with?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm going to take Washington at home plus eight. I
know Ohio State's one of the best teams in the country,
but they got to go on the right with a
young quarterback. I think Washington's a little bit better than
people think. That's not an easy place to play. I'm
getting over a touchdown. Give me the Huskies plus e nice.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'll explain this game a little bit later as well, though,
but give me the Duke Blue Devils on the road
against a over hype Syracuse who just lost their starting
quarterback for the year with Achilles Tair. I'll lay it
with Duke here press there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We go, and that is your parlay of the day. Art, Caesar,
I know you're up against it real quick. Raid Jommy
seven four eight seven interesting name creative parents they he
wants to know. Do humans set the lines or is
(11:46):
it a I I think you got some kick ass
computers back in that room. That's what he writes. Now
we don't need the specific to the Westgate, but you
can answer it specific to the West Gate or overall.
Who's adding the lines these days? Is it AI or
human beings?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, you know, I can only speak for the room
I sit in, and it's humans.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm sure there are other places that use a lot
of different models. They might use some AI. But as
I think you boys know, we're a pretty old school
book where you know, don't get me wrong, we look
at the markets and we have all that going on.
But you know, we put up NFL lines a week
ahead of time. You know, there's no other lines out there.
It's us putting our lines up, adjusting our numbers, obviously,
(12:29):
adjusting and booking to the sides we need from respected
and sharp money. So we're still pretty old school in
that regard where it's really the human element for us
at the West Gate.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Great question seven four eight seven Art, thank you for
doing this.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen, I hope you guys win at the Westgate. Every
single bed except the ones Joe myself and all our
clients make and our listeners and our viewers and well
basically everybody. So you know what I detract. I hope
you get killed get out of here Art to Caesar.
Everyone see him tomorrow, same time. Guys, hit that like button.
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Speaker 3 (14:41):
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We cannot provide free content without being able to pay
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right, I agree a lot of games here, Eric Prez.
It's only going to get crazier as the college hoops
and the NHL is just a round the corner as well,
So buckle up. Going to be a fun couple of months.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to do the NHL rundown like
you're doing the baseball rundown. I'm gonna do the NHL rundown.
You'll do the NBA rundown. We'll get somebody else to
do the college basketball rundown and we'll put them on air.
They'll just talk at nauseum for four months because there's
pretty much no other way to do a college basketball rundown. Brother,
(15:23):
we got or segments left two minutes each college football
best bets Q that clock. I got two college football
best bets to give you, guys. Let's start right off
the bat with Houston minus thirteen and a half against
Oregon State, and I think this might be the biggest
mismatch on the entire board. This Oregon State Beavers team
is horrendous on both sides of the ball. They might
(15:47):
be statistically, no, they are statistically the worst team in
the country. They have the one hundred and twenty six
best offense or the one hundred and twenty six worst offense.
They are one hundred and twenty nine in preventing scores.
That is as bad as it gets. And now they're
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playing a Houston team that is three to zero on
the season, coming off of a bye, feeling good about themselves,
and ready to totally annihilate this Houston team. I don't
understand this line at all. I think it's at least
three to six points short.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Many like I would say that this line should be
probably minus seventeen and a half. When all said it done,
I think Houston blows Oregon State out. Take Houston minus
thirteen and a half all the way up to seventeen.
Ole miss on the money line against LSU. Look this
LSU team. Everyone thinks they're good. They just beat Clemson
(16:47):
in Florida. Clemson and Florida are a combined one and
six against real football teams, and I mean real football
teams one and six. By this Ole Miss team, They're
an absolute bustle. The Rebels are averaging seven and a
half yards per play. They don't even have a punter.
(17:12):
They are explosive, they are consistent. I don't know how
LSU stops this team. I love Ole Miss on the
money line. Here take Houston minus thirteen and a half
Ole Miss on the money line, and Joe, what do
we do with your two games?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I like that? Praz all right, we're gonna start with
that Duke Syracuse game I talked about a little bit earlier,
and listen, I'm shocked this isn't a little bit more.
It appears that the public has fallen in love because
they watched Syracuse dismantle Clemson while News slash Clemson isn't
that good. And unfortunately, I might have been on the
(17:51):
same page, would have had they not lost their starting
quarterbacks Steve and Gali there with an achilles injury for
the season. It's not like he won. Isn't a big
part of what this team was doing. He's thrown for
over thirteen hundred yards. He had ten touchdowns on the
season before that injury. And yes, we've talked about Duke
a lot on this show, Prez, but the reality is
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this is a real offense that's capable of putting up
a ton of points. That means Syracuse is gonna have
to play from behind in this game. I like Duke
to get it done in this one. And the complete
opposite is going to take center stage when San Diego State,
Prez takes on Northern Illinois. Yes, Northern Illinois. Now, San
(18:34):
Diego State did the unthinkable. They just shut out California
at home last game, thirty four to nothing. It also
helped that California turn the ball over nine hundred times
in that game and gave San Diego State short fields.
But now they're traveling to a different time zone for
the first time this year. The Huskies awful offense, defense real,
(18:57):
they always have a good defense. Don't see a ton
of points coming in this game here, Prez. I also
watched San Diego State only score thirteen points against an
awful Washington State team so I think the easy play
here is back to defenses. Expect less scoring forty three
(19:17):
forty three and a half is the prevailing number here.
I am looking at the under when it comes to
San Diego State and Northern Illinois this weekend, Pres.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Joe, Yesterday you did an MLB rundown. I think you
were seventy percent yes, top to bottom. So you gave
out a lot of winners yesterday. The MLB season is
winding down, the playoffs start next week, A lot of
dramas still in play. How do we bet this card?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
All right? Pres? So? A couple of things that are
going on right now here in Major League Baseball Afternoon Baseball,
Reds and Pirates, as well as the o's in the Rays,
most likely going to be done by the time we're
finished here. In the meantime, though, Twins and Range. Is
Tyler Moley back on the mound against Bailey over who
has been horrific. I think the Rangers keep rolling here.
(20:06):
The Astros have been horrific, and they're sending Framber Valdez
to the mound, who's also been terrible, down to stretch
for him. The problem is they can't score any runs.
If you can't score runs, can't win games. I like
the Athletics to get it done once again. Diamondbacks going
up against Yamamoto. It's a bullpen game for the Diamondbacks.
They lost in extras. Still keeping pace with the Mets.
(20:29):
I'm gonna take the Diamondbacks here to get it done
this afternoon. The Marlins and the Phillies junk against Bueller,
junk against Yeah, that's an over. I'm just gonna go
with the over in that one. Prez. Tigers can't win
a game to save their lives. Guardians again, especially against
the Tigers, so I'll be back in the Guardians. The
Yankees will destroy the White Socks the Red Sox and
(20:50):
they might be in trouble in this one here with bo.
I think the Blue Jays finally bounce back, get one,
don't avoid the sweet to the Red Sox and keep
pace with the Yankees. The Mets will be the Cobbs.
The Mariners, even though they clinched and are probably still hungover,
likely still to beat the Rockies here tonight. The Royals,
with Lorenzen on the mound, should be able to get
(21:10):
it done against the Angels and press that which just
a couple of days left here in the Major League
Baseball season. Is our rundown here for today, A lot
of afternoon baseball here today.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Guz go Blue Jays, Joe, we got a little extra time.
We got some juicy stuff in this mailbag section. Let's go. So,
one of our listeners' rights a really interesting question, and
I'm going to answer it, and then I'd like you
to answer it. And what that question is is have
you ever gotten to the point where you're just tired
(21:45):
of betting on games? It's such a grind. So two
quick things to that. One. This is what most of
us do for a living, So it would be the
equivalent of saying, have you ever gotten tired of being
a construction worker? Have you ever gotten tired of going
to work and being a teacher, or a marketing assistant
or a bank manager. Yes, yes, we're all tired of
(22:06):
our jobs. With that said, I don't spend my nights
watching sports anymore, Joe, I almost never watch college basketball,
I almost never watch NBA, and I almost never watch
Major League Baseball, and I for sure never watch college football.
So I can win in all those sports by studying
(22:28):
the numbers, understanding what's going on I'm not living inside
of that grind anymore. I was for the first like
ten to fifteen years. You know I've slowed down.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You yeah, well to me. I mean the ultimate grind
sports wise is major League Baseball when you have one
hundred and sixty two game season, and I love it.
I've always loved the game of baseball, played the game
of baseball, and I love Major League Baseball this season
here because there's a lot of new ice is an
(23:00):
intricacy throughout one hundred and sixty two game season that
give you an opportunity to get edges on a consistent basis.
The problem is you can't handicap that's for two weeks,
take three weeks off, come back for a week, and
then think you're going to have any consistency. So the
guys who truly enjoyed the grind are probably some of
the better Major League Baseball handicappers that you'll meet. Press
(23:24):
here you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Go, guys, right questions, we'll answer them. Joe, I want
to read one last thing. I know we're out of time,
and so be it. Nick s Rights. Most betters are
meat heads, and pres is a hippie meet head. Now, Joe,
I don't know what a meathead is. I don't know
if that's a good thing. I do know what a
meathead is, but I want to just give my response
(23:46):
quick and sort of Mike drop my way out of here.
So I'm a hippie meathead that has built and sold
five businesses. I'm a hippie meathead that retired at forty eight.
I'm a hippie meathead that owns one of the owners
of wager Talk, and a hippie meathead that owns a
playhouse in Whistler. Joe, I'm the hippie meathead that all
(24:10):
of you guys want to be.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Brad, I think we just read it wrong. I think
maybe many meant meathead was that extremely successful individual here.
That's I think that's what he meant. Yah, I'm pretty
sure we eat meat, correct correct meat.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm a I'm a wagoo meat Oh wow, wagoo meathead
like that. I love you guys. That was a great
post man. It was funny. I know you're not starting
with me. What a fun show. Everybody. Make sure to
watch us tomorrow. Make sure to like the show, comment
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