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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, guys, welcome into Full Court Press and bear
with me. Lots of pop up boxes just now. But apparently,
drop us a comment, let us know if we're live.
Apparently we're working through like a worldwide internet outage here,
but we're here. We didn't think we were going to
be here fifteen minutes ago, but we are here. Someone

(00:24):
in the chat is saying Sienna is overrated.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
While we're waiting.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Someone was like, he's still talking to the Starbucks barista.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I haven't been to a Starbucks in a long time.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't know where that comic came from, but I
want to say this while we're waiting for people to
file in, get your notebooks out, Get your notebooks out,
because here's what I learned about Sienna and Colgate last night.
I learned that Sienna cannot handle a zone and it's
going to be a real issue for them. They had
poor numbers against his zone last year, and that Coldgate

(00:57):
zone is suddenly very very athletic without their big six
to eleven center that's no longer on the team that graduated.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
So uh but yeah, Cianna really.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Struggled with the one three one from Colgate, nearly willed
their way to a win. They tie the game with
two seconds left and then Jalen Cox bangs a fifty
foot are in my face for the win. It was
it was a sight to see. UH left very disappointed
from that game, but UH got it back with Tulsa.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So one in one for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Enough rambling, Well, you know, well we trigg While you're
being falsely accused of talking off the ear of a
make believe burist and Starbucks, I'm being accused of holding
up the show from by choking my chicken. Still, I mean,
that was That's why I was done. That's why I
was show. Oh come on, no, guys, I'm a happily

(01:49):
married man. Come on, I get something at least twice
a month.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh, so we are we are?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
We are once, if twice, if I beg.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
We are, we are off and running. Now let's get
Rob Vino in here again.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't think there's that many in the live chap,
but we'll get through this, and this will be up
on demand of course, so if anything happens throughout the
course of the show, it'll be there on demand.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We got a lot to talk about though.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
There's a lot of games today, and there is a
great double header at Madison Square Garden, which will be
our feature game.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So I'll go right to Rob and welcome in. First
of all.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Second of all, you can kick us off Michigan State
Kentucky the first leg of that double header down at
the garden.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
How are you seeing this matchup? I think you're muted?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Rob? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, good now there were good y'all get here?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah I was. I was running that printer overtime. I
didn't want the listeners to hear my printer going. Yeah,
msg'll be rocking tonight, guys with this doubleheader. Obviously for
your more high profile teams. I'm going to defer to
you guys on the Michigan State side simply because you
saw them live. But I'll go from the Kentucky side here.

(03:13):
At first glance, I thought five was a little too
much to ask, But when I went back over it
and it's actually been bent down to four and a half. Now, guys,
been with us because we had no access to our
OD screens for a while here this morning, But now
four and a half and fifty three and a half.
Let's go from there, guys, the Louisville Kentucky game, because

(03:34):
what we're gonna pull from here. At least in my
handicap is games that were meaningful played by both of
these teams. On the Kentucky side, that was the Louisville game,
where they just couldn't hang with Louisville in the same
type of pace game as one another. Here, it's a
different style. You get Tom Mizzo's a little slow down
style team for Kentucky. I don't know that the total

(03:58):
move here, guys, is correct up to one fifty three
and a half, although I'll say I don't know that
it's incorrect either. I could see it going either way,
simply because at the end of a game we might
get free throw action here in this one that could
send it over. But I like the guard side from
a Kentucky perspective. I like the pay side from a

(04:18):
Kentucky perspective. Michigan State, we've talked about it once already
this year, maybe twice. The three point shooting that this
team brings to the table just isn't in my mind
established enough to play a game at this level. And
now they could go out and shoot lights out tonight,
but I don't think that'll happen. I think Kentucky's got

(04:38):
enough interior defense here to stop Michigan State from scoring
enough inside to win this game. I also think that
Kentucky can get out and run enough to win this game.
So for my money, it would probably be Kentucky. However,
very skeptical of laying more than two buckets with this team.

(05:01):
Two threes, I guess you could say inside of two
threes and total wise, I thought the odds maker comes
real closer. Like I said, I don't want to play
it under even though that's my slight feeling. Might look
over at some point today if I can get to it.
I'll say in closing here really quick, guys that the

(05:24):
Michigan State side against San Jose State. When I saw
that game, which just was one more game, nineteen point win,
that was kind of unimpressive. And I don't know what
to make of Michigan State. The thing is, I don't
want to sell them short because it's an ISO team
and a big game. But from what I've seen of them,
I think Kentucky's the better squad. Like I say, backcourt, enough,

(05:47):
front court, and even though they lost that game to Louisville,
I kind of think Louisville's better than both of these teams.
So I'm gonna lean Kentucky. I won't stand firm with Kentucky,
but I'll lean Kentucky's way in this one. And if
this thing cranks up to maybe one fifty four and
a half, I think I might get to the under.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Okay, I think, what's the first thing that jumped out
to me? You know, I always I constantly, and I'll
talk about this all season long, all the way through March.
Compare my own power ratings to you know what the
pollsters have, and I think one thing that's interesting here
is I'm not in line with the ap top twenty
five they have. This is number twelve versus number seventeen.

(06:30):
I've got Kentucky power rated inside the top ten, while
Michigan state outside the top twenty five. Believe it or not,
I would concur the gentleman to my right, said Rob.
I think Louisville's better than both of these teams. Obviously,
Louisville will beat Kentucky. You would think, though, based on
the disparity in my own power rings, I'd be showing
some value here in Kentucky. But even with that disparity,

(06:52):
I'm pretty close to market here. At least at the
open I made the number Kentucky minus five point eight.
But with it's still being so early in the season,
I'll let you guys know when it comes by powerings.
Not a tremendous gap between number ten and number thirty.
Those teams are very close, very congested, so let's make
that clear right here. As for the matchup, Rob mentioned it,

(07:14):
Trigg and I obviously caught this Michigan State team in
person two saturdays ago. A very impressive win over Arkansas.
Impressive in the cents Trig that Sparti was able to
win while going just one of fourteen from three. The
margin of victory wasn't impressive, but if you can beat
a quality opponent when you shoot one for fourteen from three,
you're doing something else right now. Tom Rob mentioned the

(07:37):
San Jose State game for Michigan State that was their
next game after beating Arkansas. Tom Izzo pretty critical of
his performance. If you caught this show last Thursday, we
identified and I think a lot of people would have
identified it as well as a likely flat spot for
Michigan State. For the record, they end up winning by nineteen.
Do not covers twenty four point chalk. Meanwhile, Kentucky, after

(07:59):
losing the Louis, they respond by blowing out Eastern Illinois
ninety nine to fifty three on Friday. Mark Pope's team
guys averaging ninety eight points per game so far, three
and oh to the over. That probably explains the move
on the total that Rob referenced earlier. I think the
big story though for the Wildcats Jalen Lowe point guard
is out. You got Aberdeen Chandler Johnson to lead the offense.

(08:21):
But Trig, I know you're really good with this matchup stuff.
I think the lack of a true point guard here
could really hurt against a team like Michigan State, who
we've already seen against our another SEC team, Arkansas, Michigan
State was able to slow the tempo down, make the
opponent play in the half court. I think ISO can
do that here. I think Spartan size is another thing

(08:42):
to watch out for Kohler. He's averaging a double double.
You got Carson Cooper as well up front. Michigan State
guys fourth nationally offensive rebounds per game. I think that's
a critical stat. Maybe they could stag some extra possessions
my leans here, and I do stress the word leans
would be towards the dog and to the under in
this first game at MSG.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I I so if this was a normal scenario,
like everyone healthy, I'd look to Kentucky because my thing
would be, well, they'd be able to create transition opportunities,
they would be able to push the pace, and that's
absolutely what Michigan State does not want. You know, we
got a good look at this Michigan State team against Arkansas,

(09:25):
and the reason Michigan State was able to win that game, Brian,
in my opinion, was they they got Arkansas to do
enough in the half court. And it wasn't even that
they just gave up that that Arkansas couldn't get transition
or create transition. It was that when Michigan State, you know,
over the course of forty minutes, they were able to

(09:47):
deny transition enough that put Arkansas in a half court set.
And you and I were sitting next to each other,
you know, we were a few spartas deep, but we
knew that they weren't there.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You turned to me either, you were like, what is
that possession? What was that?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Like?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
What you know?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And that is Michigan State's half court defense, which would
do the same thing in the Kentucky. Now, if Kentucky
can turn this into a track meet, Michigan State's in trouble.
That being said, the absence of Low makes it less
likely that they're going to be able to do that.
So that's Michigan State's path to victory is being physical,
slowing the game down, limiting the number of possessions in

(10:23):
this game, uh one fifty four on the total. Let's
say Michigan State can do that, I think, Robbi, you'd
have to probably like the under if they can do that.
But again, if Kentucky can dictate tempo here, then it's
a different ballgame. But without Low, I think you have
to think that that might hurt Kentucky from a pay standpoint.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think that's what you said. You made the point, Brian.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's interesting like these these sort of made for TV
neutral court games, I really struggle to usually get to
the window on and I'm kind of struggling here though.
I do think if Michigan State can slow this game down,
and there's some correlation between Michigan State's success and the
game playing undergo ahead, Brian.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's exactly I think, and correctly. If
I'm wrong, maybe you guys remember better this Champions Class.
It's it's usually, you know, early in the season, the
books are trying to still figure these teams out. I
think historically it's been and you know, we still got
one of the game to go with Duke and Kansas.
It's been historically profitable back the underdogs, I think in
the in this particular MT if memory serves correct.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I gotta I'm trying to remember if this was
what Duke lost in last year when Flag had that
sort of like horrible possession where he tried to like
dribble through three guys or the game on the line
and then got the ball stone.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I think it was, Yeah, I think it was. I
think it was, yes.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And and Kentucky would have been the dog in that game.
So yeah, So it's a good point, Brian, and and
you know, you get it. It's a good point. I'll
bring Rob back in here, because the other game that
is our part of our our feature in the other
leg of this event, you got an underdog that's now
quite a bigger underdog in a matchup where normally they

(12:08):
want to be as big of an underdog, and that is,
of course Duke and Kansas trying to get organized again here.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
As you said, the screens were all wacky.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But yeah, we have a double digit favorite with Duke.
We have Kansas who's likely likely without their best player
or one of their best players.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And I don't know, Rob, is that is that too
many points? Or do you think Duke runs away with
this one?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
And to answer Brian's question about the dogs generally, are
thinking that the dogs generally are good in this tournament.
I don't know that we ever see dogs of this
size in this tournament when you put these four types
of teams together plus eleven, not really seen. But I'm
a little higher on this game, guys, I like this
Duke team total over eighty and a half. I mean

(12:55):
Darren Peterson. Obviously we just talked about low, big deal
Darren Peterson, bigger deal KU. Their last game without him
against Princeton something miserable from three point range. I do
have notes here now that tell me five of twenty
one twenty three point eight percent from three point range
in that Gi Peterson came out of the gates as

(13:17):
the main guy offensively, and then you lose him, and
like I say, the Princeton game they played without him,
they didn't shoot well from three. Duke's pace has been
incredible so far this season. They shoot the ball sixth
fastest in the country thirteen point eight seconds per possession length.
That's getting it down and getting the ball up, and
they're shooting it real well. Now, you know, opposition hasn't

(13:40):
been great, but they beat Texas by fifteen, So for
what that's worth, that's a major college program winning by fifteen.
There everybody else they've absolutely swamped. Contrary to what we
just said about Kentucky needing transition and possibly not being
able to get it, because again tom Izzo, you know,
his focal point will be transition defense. They'll go to

(14:01):
the offensive glass. It won't be like a Princeton style
transition defense where you shoot the ball and send all
five back, but Izzo will make sure they have somebody
back to defend against transition. I don't know that Kansas
can stop Duke from running in this game. Their team
total is eighty and a half. I don't see an
issue with that here, guys. I think Kansas will be

(14:22):
forced to play a little bit quicker. I think Kansas
will be forced to play from behind. Not sure yet
on Duke defensively, which is why I won't commit to
Duke covering this number. Obviously, if they get over eighty
and a half, they're going to be in position to
possibly cover. But this thing's liable to rise a little
bit higher, even during the day, because we know betting

(14:45):
these games every day that people bet or fade injuries
like crazy and especially an injury like Darren Peterson. It's
like when the public gets to it, it's liable to
rise even higher. So I think at this point in
time the way to go here and the total has
even been bet down because of no Darren Peterson. I'm
not so sure I agree with that either as far
as full game is concerned. But to me, and again,

(15:05):
I'm way more betting wise into this game than the
previous game. I think Duke team total asking them to
get to eighty one here I don't think is too much.
I think they'll be the pace will be there. The
Boozer kids have been really good so far this year.
Give me Duke over eighty and a half. I like
that play quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I have Duke power rate is number one team in
the country. Right now. I don't think that's, you know,
an earth shattering hot take and like that Kansas power
Rings perspective just kind of inside the top twenty five
for me and too, you know, for the you know,
this is a very well educated chat. Obviously, we have
Trig here on full court Press and Rob as well.
These people know what they're talking about. Just for those

(15:47):
of you who may not understand, you know, the loss
of Peterson. This is a guy who's projected to the
number one pick in next summer's NBA Draft by a
lot of people. So that is a significant loss for
the Jayhawks. Peterson had twenty two points. For what it's
worth in Cana This is lone loss so far. That
loss was by thirteen at North Carolina jay Aawkxon bounced
back since then seventy seven to forty six over Texas
Sandam Corpus Christi, seventy six to fifty seven over Princeton.

(16:09):
But obviously, as Rob alluded to just a moment ago,
facing Duke a much taller order. Quite literally, in fact,
the Blue Devils had a tremendous size in the front
court opponent, shooting thirty nine percent against Duke on two
point attempts below forty percent inside the arc just thirty
two percent overall. Offensively for the Blue Devils, you got

(16:32):
Cameron Boozer. He went for thirty five last time out.
That was the second most points ever scored in a
game by a Duke freshman. For the record, Boozer thirteen
to sixteen from the field in that game. It was
against Indiana State last Friday. We should mention, from a
betting perspective, Duke's four to zer against the number so far.
So that's another reason I think the public may gravitate

(16:52):
towards the Blue Devil's side. Not only did they open
up with that impressive win over Texas that Rob mentioned,
also three straight covers as a favorite of thirty four
or more points, So the big spreads have not been
a problem for Duke. You know, obviously beating week competition
is what you'd expect, But when you're covering as a
favorite of thirty four or more three straight times, I
think that's pretty impressive. Personally, Now, the contrarian and me

(17:16):
Trig doesn't really want to play a four and oats
team that's favored by double digits in this spot. That's
just how my brain works. I see this, and I say,
is this a potential sell high spot on the Blue Devils.
You know, I think Rob's points well taken. Once the
public gets wint to the Peterson injury, this line could
take off even more. My thought was actually to go

(17:38):
with the under at the open. The full just Kansas
is some offensive issues fifty fifth per Ken Palm inefficiency.
I think they're gonna struggle to score against this duke defense.
I look at Kansas defensively, they're eleventh inefficiency. Bill Self
in the past has done well against Shire two and zero.
He's held duke, those duke offenses in check. But with

(18:01):
this size, I don't Maybe maybe it's just Kansas team
total under is an angle worth looking here. I don't
see Kansas winning this game, that's for sure. I think
they struggle to score points against that size of duke.
It is worth noting though Boozer was scoreless in the
first half against Texas, if memory serves me correct, So

(18:22):
you know, maybe Self can devise a game plan to
keep him in check. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't have a ton to add here.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'll tell you that the one thing I had circled
so my number came out Duke minus nine and a half.
It's very close to where it opened Duke minus ten
and a half. I understand, you know why it's moving.
It certainly hasn't moved enough for me to really like
be confident punching back. And the reason for that is
the one thing I had big circled on my note

(18:52):
Kansas might not have an answer for the Duke offense,
and I think that's what.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Sort of Rob alluded to.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Looking at total, It's probably the way I would play
it as well. So yeah, I'm going to We've got
a lot of games, a lot of different questions in
the chat today. I'm not gonna, you know, waste any
more time on this one since I don't have a
strong opinion, but I'm not I don't disagree with with
you know what you guys are saying. Bunch to get
to Jay buff I see you in there. We'll get

(19:18):
to that Gartham coming to year game, but first we
have a sort of chat debate on one that you know,
quite a few people are talking about. And I feel
like this is going to be a popular sort of
game tonight because you have the Tennessee Martin Skyhawks who
have been as fun as can be.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Pulling upsets, Brian Power, Do I do?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I dare call them America's team right now, at least
the part of America that pays attention to mid majors
pulling upsets in November, and they are on the road
as a large underdog to Florida State, and we have
so the chat debate right now is people saying Tennessee Martin,
They're gonna do it again. We've got the other folks
saying Florida State's gonna run him out by forty Brian Power,

(20:05):
what is it? What do you have any interest in
this one?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
My only concern is when you know, when everyone falls
in love with the dog, that's typically when I go,
when I when I back away. Right in terms of you,
in terms of this game, let's take a look. I
am gonna laugh at you, j Buff. I don't care
what you say. Okay, I'm gonna laugh every time your

(20:31):
name's your name's Wrench. Let's just go and see, for instance,
what I would Power rate this game at here, U
T Martin Florida State. Here. Let me just let me
just go to this real quick.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Sorry and I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
We we finally our back end server at wager Talk
was was down for like all morning. So you see
me over here, it's it's trying. I'm trying to put
plays out that I would have had up.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think this
numbers too. I'm gonna be honest you. I think this number.
You know, I just what through the numbers are, because
again Rob mentioned just everyone in case you're just joining
the stream late. The Internet, A large portion of it
was down this morning, including our odd screen. Twitter was down,
some other a lot of sites were down. I'm gonna
be honest, I think this numbers too high. That's my

(21:15):
initial I actually do. I'm surprised. I think this number
is actually way too high based on my Power ratings.
I'll dig into this a little bit. I'll let Rob
speak on this first, but I kind of actually lean
you t Martin right now from a Power Ratings perspective,
as much as you know. MY initial thought was when

(21:35):
so many people like, oh I love this dog, I
love this dog. Yeah, they're probably gonna be overvalued. I
actually don't think they're overvalued here, Trigg at all. I'll
dig a little bit deeper for you in a second.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, I'll hop in real quick. Guys. I'll tell you
what I don't think is too high. Is that total.
I mean, I can see this game serve they've bet
it up already. Probably isn't high enough FSU for what
it's worth. Obviously, you've got two fast paced teams, right,
and Florida State is extreme tempo, top ten fastest possessions

(22:08):
in the country. They're going to run it at UT Martin.
I think UT Martin will run it back at them.
But from the Florida State perspective, what I look at
is they score seventy six points against that Florida front line,
and the Tennessee Martin front line is not even comparable
to the Florida front line. So the seventy six that
they scored against Florida probably turns into eighty eight, eighty

(22:32):
nine to ninety something in that vicinity. They've been really
good shooting the basketball. Tennessee Martin's been even better. I
don't know that I trust the Florida State defense to
do anything earth shattering in this game. I think they'll
encourage a track me, so to speak. So for me,
I don't think that this total's gotten high enough. I

(22:53):
know that the chat is debating on the side, and
every time it comes to me over here on the
far right, I want to talk about total rather than side.
But I think it's the right way to go ahead.
I think that's the type of game you're going to get.
I think Florida State will be comfortable in it. I
think Florida State feels superior in that type of game,
and not having to see the rim protection that Florida

(23:13):
presented against them from UT Martin just means more buckets.
And these fast paced games, guys a lot of times
end up with I'm just going to use a rough
number here at forty five to fifty free throws, and
from a free throw perspective, when you get that many
extra opportunities, that's usually a good sign for overs. Florida State,
for what it's worth, almost shoots eighty percent from the

(23:36):
free throw line. I can see this thing getting to
one seventy. So it's something that I had a little
blue check mark next to on the overnights, and it
was the total was lower than I think I may
get to this one as far as over is concerned.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, So here's here's how I see this playing out.
And this is this is what makes this game so interesting.
And so I'll just point out too, like I made
the number Florida State minus twenty two. Okay, it opened twenty,
it got bet up to twenty two, and now you
see there's definitely like some market support for Tennessee Martin
at twenty two because we're now going back toward that

(24:13):
opening number of twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
So I think there are people.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
That are on the side of like, Okay, this is
where Tennessee Martin's gonna get run out, and then there's
people like Brian Power who are like, no, that's actually
like twenty two is actually probably a good number. And
you know, because when it hit twenty two, there was
some clear buying to knock that back off in the
other direction. I am kind of with Rob though, I
think I have more interest in playing this over than

(24:39):
trying to get involved with the side, because like Tennessee
Martin gets a lot of shots up and they get
them up quick. So really, like I think, if you
if you like Florida State, the bet is really like, Okay,
this is finally where Tennessee Martin misses some shots, right,
because the volume of shots that they're taking the you

(25:00):
know what they're giving up. Like if they have a
cold shooting night, if Martin goes on the road here
as a cold shooting night, they're losing by probably twenty
five thirty points. But if they make some of those shots,
they're probably in this game a little bit, at least
from a spread perspective.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But like either way, just because.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Of how Florida State has played in some of these
games where it seems like they're going to do it
for forty minutes, I you know, there's been a couple
of scenarios already this year where they've really let it
rip for all forty hasn't matter what the score is.
That like, even if you do get cold shooting from
Tennessee Martin, maybe you get this over because Florida State
dropped a hundred spot on them. So it's like, I

(25:37):
just think the over gives you more opportunities to win
regardless of how this game plays out, which could go
like many different directions depending.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
On if the shots are falling or not. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Bryant, Yeah, so you know Rob talks about Florida State
getting to seventy six against Florida and how that's a
good sign for them scoring here. Well, I'll tell you
what really makes it a good sign for them scoring here.
They got to seventy six against Florida despite shooting thirty
four percent overall from the floor twenty six percent from three.

(26:09):
Do we think you t Martin is gonna hold Florida
State to those kinds of percentages. No, I don't think
even no matter what my power ratings say, No, I
don't think we do. And Florida State. Also, here's the
thing you talk of, maybe a cold shooting. This is
the other bad sign. Florida State has defended the three
pretty well so far, and I think your points will
take a trick a few t mart as a cold
night from three. They're obviously in a lot of trouble.

(26:31):
Florida State also forces a lot of turnovers too, So
if you t mart isn't hitting them from outside and
is turning the ball over, obviously they're dead. I those
are and those are high variant stats. Obviously you know
it's something you're gonna know. You're not gonna know, so
you click on the game and we're a few minutes
in how it's playing out. But I suppose there is
a path schematically for Florida State to cover this big

(26:54):
number even though my power ratings say no, my power
ratings actually really like you t mart In.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
This fun.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
All right, let's stay on the topic of totals for
a second, because this one's very intriguing and we got
to get my guy Garth in here. Thank you for
I gotta say this like well, first of all, thank
you for the donation of the show.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Much appreciated.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
But like every time we talk about Garth's game, we
pretty much get it right. We've been on a tear
for Garth. Yesterday he brought up West Georgia. They ended
up going off plus four. They won the game outright.
I think we even may have touched on I don't
remember if we touched on the under there, but it
stayed under, much to the chagrin of Brian Power, who
needed that poor shooting last time West Georgia played. Yes,

(27:37):
they finally yet like you said, they went on the
road and missed a lot and still ended up winning
the game. Was so we got that right, and we're
gonna try to get one right here for Garth again.
He wants to know Army team total under seventy two
and a half tonight against Cornell and this This is
an interesting game to me because you want to talk
about an Army team total under against a Cornell team

(28:01):
that is going to just let it rip, play as
fast as humanly possible, get up and down, press the
whole game, and typically plays high scoring games. So that's
a little bit of a conundrum to me because Cornell
is is so much better than Army, like they're going
to control the tempo of this game.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Without question. There is I have zero f eighth in
Army being able to slow them down. I have a
very long list of potential plays today. One of the
plays on that list, which which I haven't locked in yet,
and again it's a very long list that needs pairing
down is Cornell minus fourteen and a half. On the
basis that I don't think Army can dictate how this

(28:41):
game goes. I just think Cornell is so far superior
to them that if they want to play up and
down and press the whole game and get crazy, it'll
look similar to the Lafayette game. Now.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
The only difference is I think that Cornell Lafayette line.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
What did we lay.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Four and a half with Cornell in that game on
the road against Lafayette? Now, we're being asked to lay
fourteen and a half with Cornell might be a little
bit of an equalizer, even though I personally make this nineteen.
So I do still see an edge there. But as
far as your question is concerned, and I'll bring Robin
here sort of our resident totals expert, it's tough because

(29:18):
Cornell could press them so hard that it turns into
a blowout and Army just gives up, and that would
be your that's your path to the under in my opinion,
Like Cornell wins this game by twenty and Army just
packs it in and says, all right, we're like going
to walk the ball up the floor. We're sick of
getting pressed, we're sick of turning it over every possession,
and we score sixty something points and get blown out.

(29:40):
But I don't know if that's I don't know if
I want to bet on that. And so I'll open
the floor to the other two to see if they
can make some sense out of this.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Well, I'll say real quick, Adam, that you know, Army's
kind of a well, let's put it this way. You
want to go very slow off the And yet we
were talking about tom Izzo and transition defense Earlier when
you look at Armies defensive metrics and I get that.
You know, they played a you know, a Duke team

(30:11):
that wants to go pretty quick, but Saint Thomas doesn't
want to go quick. They're just efficient. Harvard doesn't want
to really go quick, and yet they're allowing shots at
the number sixty nine rate as far as seconds per
possession is concerned in the country, like you say, Cornell
another extreme tempo team, and if you're going slow offensively

(30:34):
but allowing the ball to be rebounded and moved out
of there as quick as humanly possible, I would use
I always try to find a comp game when I'm
playing these tots, and for me, the comp game would
be the Duke game. It goes one fourteenth to fifty nine.
Is Cornell going to get to one fourteen like Duke did?
Probably not. Can Cornell get to within fifteen points of

(30:55):
that the way they play and get ninety nine? Probably
can the way that they play offense. And then the
other side of that is Army could only get fifty
nine points against Duke with their humongous team. I mean,
Army obviously is in you know, physical difficulty playing that game.
As far as size is concerned against Cornell, they'll give

(31:18):
you buckets for free at times. So can they get
more than fifty nine? Absolutely they could probably, even though
they're a bad shooting team, they could probably get to
sixty eight sixty nine by mistake, you start doing mathematics
in that form and you come up with over. I
know this game has been bet down a little bit,
maybe because of Army. Question is you know, for somebody

(31:39):
who's gonna bet over, do you get trust Army enough
to score sixty nine seventy points? If you don't, then
you just bet the Cornell team total over and again. Guys,
I don't know if it's happened to you, but it
looks to me like my odd screen is going down
against it. I can't even give you what the current
team total is in that game. You have it at them.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I was gonna say, my, my, I don't have the
team totals in front of me, But my odd screen
is working. And Cornell has moved quite a bit since
we got on air. It was fourteen and a half
up to up to eighteen some places. Makes complete sense.
Fully expected it to be in that direction. The totally yeah,
the game total has ticked down from one sixty four
now to one sixty one and a half. Garth, I

(32:22):
would say you're like your path to hitting that bet
is the fact that there's probably zero extension at the
end of this game. It's likely a blowout, and you
may see Army just decide to like live to play
another day, as opposed to like try to score a
bunch of points in the meaningless game at the end,
Rob you talked about Army and just there, I think

(32:43):
this is one of the worst ten teams in the
country this year. So like for me, I'm not betting
on Army to do anything good. Like so so team
total under I think makes some sense in the respect
that like you almost need them to get the over
by accident, Like this Army team is a bad basketball team,
will be the worst team in a bad Patriot League,
one of the worst teams in the country.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Go ahead, Brian, yeah, drig I oh, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Right real quick. I'll take two seconds here. I guess
indirectly I answered your question, Garth, because I was talking
about you're going to trust Army to get the sixty
eight sixty nine points, and your question was will they
stay under seventy two and a half, So I guess
indirectly I answered it right there by saying, you know,
for them to get the seventy is a big deal
in this game.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, I was just gonna add this real quick, Drigg.
I apologized. We're scrambling this morning with all the Internet
things going out, and I apologize if I missed you references.
Do you put any like in terms of the handicap
this being Cornell's first home game, you obviously have traveled
the Northeast more than well.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Is that like ery'll be no one there tonight.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's not what you don't. You don't you don't think
it's worth anything, Okay, I'm just I'm just having You're
looking at a team they started traversing this fine country
of ours with three road games, now they're back home.
I didn't know if if that was worth anything to
you in terms of of on the Cornell side.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Will get a turnout every once in a while for
like a good IVY opponent or like maybe on like
a Saturday, But I I don't this game is gonna
have no atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I don't think anyone's going to this game.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Home opener. Nobody shows.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, worst Bowling Green Lemoyne.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
No like I I yeah, I think there'll be less
people than that game that was.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's tough though.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's a Sunday during NFL football, Like you know, no
name opponent for Bowling Green, Like I just I've been
to some Cornell games that I thought were like gonna
be like decent crowds and stuff, and and it's just
they just don't get a huge turnout for games that
they'll get. They'll get a turnout if Princeton comes to
town middle of IVY season, but they're not gonna I

(34:47):
don't think they'll have much of a showing on a
weeknight for this game.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
One of those schools you have to study at. That's
why I didn't go there or protest.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
H Jay Buff. Let's let you know what Jay Buff says.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Hate to say it, but I think mom myth plus
twenty two has some value tonight. Can't bet against my boys,
but it seems high starling first game back, look ahead
to two tough games in Vegas, Jay Buff, I agree
with you, and I'm gonna use mom myth plus twenty
two as my parlay leg here oh three for me? Yes,

(35:23):
I did so I will take a second to acknowledge
I did kill the parlay yesterday. Both of you boys
got it done and the Sienna Saints did not, So
that's on me. We need to we need to win
one of these though we're on a little bit of
a parlay swoon where we keep hitting two of three,
which is.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think correct me if
I'm wrong, and I'm sure the chat will. But this
show has now been in existence. We've done eleven shows
so far. I believe nine of them we've won at
least two of the three parlay like I believe there's
only been two occasions where we didn't. At least if
you just played the three plays straight, you wouldn't have

(36:01):
gone at least two and one.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Can I interest anybody in round robins? Yes, there we are.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's an option really, it's just a fun way to
get you out some information and you know, kind of
track if we have success, whether or not, still plus
nine point two two units on the year, and we'll
still be locking one in every day whether they win
or lose, so hopefully we can win more of them
then we lose. But this is also you could also
play this straight this will be a three percent play

(36:28):
for my clients, and I think Jay buff nailed the handicap,
so I was you know, this actually opened twenty two
and a half. Twenty two, it was announced that JJ
Starling would play tonight, and I'm thinking, I'm sitting here waiting.
I'm like, oh, please, someone bet Syracuse based on that information,
which I think is totally irrelevant to the outcome of
this game. Not that he doesn't like help the team significantly,

(36:50):
but like, in this game with a twenty two point spread,
I just don't think like the fact that he'll probably
play limited minutes is moving the needle. And it started
to get bet the other way. So I didn't want
to lose the twenty two. I took the twenty two.
I still think twenty twos are out there might be
twenty one and a half most places, but yeah, like
it's a spot that historically Syracuse has not done well.

(37:14):
These are if you go back the last couple of years,
which we'll call the Adrian Autrey era for Syracuse basketball,
they are horrific as the as a huge home favorite.
They just so you want to talk about a venue
that doesn't have a ton of juice, the Dome. Listen,
you need to put twenty thousand in the dome just

(37:36):
to have a reasonable atmosphere. You need thirty thousand in
the dome for a really good atmosphere. And these early
season sort of by game type games that Syracuse schedules
at home just typically don't have that juice. Like I
usually subtract home court for Syracuse in these types of
games because I just don't think it's worth anything, Like

(37:58):
I'll typically won't add any anything to my number for
QS being home here because of that, Whereas the books
are almost always going to put a point or two
for home court for a Power five Power Conference school
against a team like Monmouth.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Now go back to the weekend.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You know, Syracuse wins that game by thirty and covers,
but that was a monster run they closed that game on.
Brian is nodding his head. Do you have any do
you want to throw it?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I think Syracuse outscored Drexel forty three to eighteen in
the second half of that game and covered when it
was a close game in the first half.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, I mean, you talk about a Syracuse team that
is eighth nationally with a plus thirty six scoring margin.
But be aware that that can be a little bit misleading.
As Trigg just alluded to, Qus was only a five
at the half against Trexel. They and they were getting
out rebounded, they were getting out worked on the boards,
King they lost the rebounding edge for the game. They
were dominated on the glass. As a matter of fact,

(38:55):
in the first half they lost the rebounding battle nineteen
to eight over the first twenty minutes. You would not
expect that at all from the favorite. And then you
look at the Monmouth side. Okay, all, First of all,
they just played another big East team, Seat and Hall.
They go down by twelve, but the Hawk they were
up by as many as nine in the first half again,

(39:18):
actually led by seven at the half. So this is
a game, if you're just looking at final scores from
last time up, very very misleading because you had Syracuse
up by a very thin margin against Drexel while Monmouth
was actually beating Seaton Hall on the road at half. So, yeah,
I think you're onto something here. Trigg would completely co

(39:40):
sign with you, and you, Jay buff I know you
want me to say that as well. I think Monmouth
plus the points would be the way to play this.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, and one more thing I'll add in regards to
the Monmouth side, which I didn't really offer much of
a handicap on the Mommet's side like they're perceived to
be this year, because of course Abbey Bashire goes to
Kansas State. Madison Durr I believe ended up somewhere in
the same conference, maybe un C Wilmington and those were

(40:10):
like the high volume scorers for them last year. But
like last year's team had issues like those two did
a lot of scoring. Jarrett Valencia was hurt for most
of the years or for most of the year, and
they like there was like that that team kind of
fell apart at times. So even though this team doesn't
have the star power of last year's team, like King

(40:32):
Rice is a very good coach. He's been a very
good coach for a long time. I almost think as
a unit they might be like better than what their
market projection is. And Brian alluded to some of that
in the recent game against Seaton Hall where they had
a lead for a long period of time in that
game and were competitive. So Jay buff listened though, you
got to cash the ticket if you want your flowers.

(40:54):
No flowers until tomorrow, except I think he might want
his flowers for the Lemoyne call last night.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
We'll give him that.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
We just need to know if you're leading Syracuse out
of the court tonight, we can't bet this, so we
need to know that. Hopefully you're gonna watch this one
in the comfort of your own home. It's cold and
windy as hell out. You don't want to be walking
down on the streets of Syracuse tonight. It's gonna stay home,
don't lead the team out, and let's cash marsh mom
myth plus twenty two, which is a client plate for

(41:23):
me three percent, and he's saying he did last night.
If you led Lemoyn onto the floor, I'll lose. That
is just I can't. I need to believe see that
to believe it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
But you got you gotta tell Brian Power if you're
gonna do that, because he needs to, I mean.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
He would I can't be Yeah, I can't bet again
on jab.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
At any rate. We'll move it along.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Mom myth plus twenty two first leg of the parlay
three percent played for Trigg and we'll leave it at that.
All right, let's get back into the you know what, Actually,
I'm gonna go to Rob. We gotta we gotta hear
from Rob. Little dealer's choice.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
For Rob.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
We'll see if he wants to lock in his par
parlay leg or not. Throw something out there that we
can can chat about here.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
All right, two things, very quickly, I will throw out
a parlay leg that we've already talked about. I just
think Duke over eighty and a half team total is
an absolute way to go here. One last thing I'll
throw in in that particular game is that Kansas has
already faced this style, and faced this style with Peterson

(42:31):
and gave up eighty seven to UNC. And UNC is
not as good offense quick, not as quick as Duke
pace wise so far this year, not as good shooting
the basketball as Duke this year to me getting to
eighty one here, I don't know that Kansas can do
much about it. Secondly, Adam, I'll throw one out there
because we've talked a lot about these two teams so

(42:51):
far this year, and again, odd screen down, I apologize, guys,
I don't have exact current numbers to give you here,
but Little Rock and Murray State. Little Rock's been on
a journey all season long, right that there's a couple
of games in Wisconsin. I think it was I played
that team or that full game total against Marquette over

(43:13):
didn't work out because Little Rock came through with forty
nine points after Shaka Smart had said he was mad
at his defense, and they proved to be right. Little
Rock comes back. They score a little better. But Murray
State from the Missouri Valley we've talked about a little
bit here to Adam and they didn't get the money. Yeah,
they've like plus ten and a half and they're within

(43:36):
ten with like I don't know, thirty seconds left to go,
and they don't get the money in that particular game.
Trying to forget who the bear of trying to remember
who the big favorite even was in that game. Now, anyway,
I think Murray State comes through here. I just don't
like the Little Rock offen. You know again, I've said
before that they're scattered shooting, they're sporadic. There's knights. They're

(43:58):
gonna have good nights. You played thirty four games in
college basketball, and the volume is good enough or enough
to on a night where you can shoot forty six
from the floor where you're gonna score big numbers. But
Little Rock just doesn't do that consistently enough for me
and to me, Murray State is going to be a
challenger in the MVC this year.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Solid offense we've seen it so far, pretty good defense.
I think that in this particular game, in this particular matchup,
they can do what Little Rock does and even better.
So without having that number in front of me, I'm
gonna leave you with the thought that Murray State is
the right side in this game. Let me you know what.

(44:40):
I have an overnight though, Unless you guys can give
me a current, I'll tell you because I had to
check mark next to this game. That's why we're talking
about it. Murrays You guys got it?

Speaker 3 (44:56):
No, I got Murray State fourteen.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Guys on the over fourteen it's in fourteen and a half.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
It's in fourteen and a half now.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, and I think they're more than capable here. It
may sound like a lot, but Arkansas Little Rock is
a team that, just under Daryl Walker, they've got a
tendency to go with the huge droughts where Mury will
take advantage. So I think Murray State is worth a
look here in this game. Guys. Somewhere in the I
don't know I'm gonna call it somewhere in the eighty
four sixty eight vicinity something like that. I could see

(45:26):
that very well happening.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
All right, I'm gonna work so oh, go ahead, Brian.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
I was going to close the parlay out when I.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Was gonna go yeah, Page as usual, That's what I
was going for.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, Well, I'm going to your neck of the woods here, Trig.
I'm going to talk Princeton. Iona. I thought about giving
you T Martin now as my leg of the parlay,
but I agree with somebody of the chat who said,
maybe ut Martin's a little bit of a public dog.
I don't like those public dogs. I like dogs where
nobody's taking them. But here I'm giving out a favorite
I like here. It'd still get three and a half. Iwona, guys,

(46:04):
is off to a great start. Why is Ion off
to great start? Well, we talk about three point variants
all the time, and there aren't many teams in the
country right now winning the three point variance battle more
than the Iona Gales. This is a team shooting over
forty two percent from behind the arc. Their opponents are
barely making twenty percent. Will that discrepancy sustain over the

(46:25):
course from full season Adam trigger Robbino, No, it absolutely
will not. But at home lay in a short number here.
I think even if that, if those numbers begin to tighten,
I think we're okay. Princeton's a team I'm looking at.
They lose their top three scorers from last year. The
offense isn't there, They're not getting second chance opportunities. I

(46:47):
own a as a short favorite, is going to be
how I close out this parlay?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, I hate to say it, but because of course
that's you know, as a Siana guy, Iona, we hate them,
hate hate you all, but those are two rivals. I
have been like more, I've been as impressed with Iona
as maybe any any team in the country this year
in terms of like, so new head coach Dan Dreau

(47:15):
comes in, he's an NBA guy. They went the route
of like NBA assistant, and you know, they kind of
are doing things that you know, the rest of the
Matt Conference maybe poked fun at them a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Like for going the route that they did.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Of course, the guy that the guy that they fired,
Tobin Anderson, famously provided Brian and I with one of
the best moments of our lives in the steakhouse with
Fairley Dickinson knocking off or just with trash in the place,
which is awesome. Uh, he goes to Iona kind of
get like gets ousted from his job. A lot of

(47:50):
people didn't think he deserved to get fired, but they
wanted to just switch it up, go a different route.
They bring in an NBA assistant in and all of
like I heard some mixed things this summer with like
you know, people that have that got to go attend
practice and stuff, and but like the comments he was making,
I feel like, I feel like Dure came out and

(48:12):
was like listen, we're it's going to be a slow
build and stuff like that, because he just didn't want
to like set unnecessary expectations. But everything I heard from
people going to watch Iona in practice was like, this
team's going to be really good and they are just
like you know, the practices were like super dynamic, a
lot of different things going on, and and I just

(48:33):
think that they might be onto something. And there's probably
a reason that they They must have had a really
good feeling about the guy that they were bringing in,
because like by all accounts, Tobin Anderson's a pretty good
coach and a lot of Like even the coaching community
was like, can't believe they let him go.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
So I'm just.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Trying to like read the tea leaves a little bit.
But like, now I've got to watch Iona a couple
of times and they get like a plus marks from me.
Are they gonna regress at some point? Probably can't hit
shots like they've been hitting all season long, But until
they do, I'd be scared to bet against them. So, Brian,
I'm gonna I'm not gonna go against that leg and

(49:14):
I'll be rooting. Unfortunately, you'll make me root for Iona
for tonight.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I do want to add one thing, well, it was
a different coaching staff for this is a revenge spot
for the Gaels as well. They lost the season opener
last year by one to Princeton on last second free throws,
and that was a game on the road. Iona led
by twelve at the half. The players remember. It may
be different coaches, but the players remember, give me give

(49:40):
me Iona.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Treg remembers because he was in the building for that game.
I was in the building for that game. Of course,
they totally but but remember that Princeton team xaviian Lee
won that.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Game for them.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
And he was the guy. Yes he made the free throws,
Yes yes, yes, yes, he.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Single handedly won that game.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Iona was the better team the entire time, and they
had a great look to win it, which you could
still probably find in my Twitter history if you go
back and go through, and I posted that I was
at that game last year and I ownA had just
a dream look from the elbow to win and rimmed out. Yeah,
twelve and a half point dog. Back when I used
to cash tickets in person. Now I just lose when

(50:19):
I go to games and bet on the team that
I need.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
So but anyway, uh.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Let's so we are going to go the full hour,
even though we started late. We're gonna go the full hour.
And actually I don't think we have like the usual
hard stop today, So we'll get you.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
We'll get some more of these.

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it quicker than that place? We went to an East
Lasts Okay, that was something else.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, that was like they were yeah, like they had
to go procure the beans from somewhere like that was
that was incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I want to go to UH. I want to go
to the chat here.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Because this is an interesting one and I'll bring Rob
back in, uh, because we've had opinions on the team
all year, and that team would be the Xavier Musketeers.
Now the chat question is ODU money line? Is that
worth a sprinkle? My gut says no, this is Xavier
probably gets a win here.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
And I made the number nine and a half.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
But like Rob, I was kind of hoping that the
market was still out of whack on Xavier. I think
I would have taken Odu with a few more points.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
At the current number. I couldn't do it. What about you?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, I couldn't do it with Xavier at any point
until we see something different.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Now.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I will say from a Xavier perspective, the schedule has
been not the easiest of well. I mean, it's not
a cake walk type of schedule. So maybe some of
the results we're seeing is the is the product of
them playing up above their heads here. I'm not sure

(52:52):
that they're playing up and above their heads. Sometimes you
come back to, you know, regress back to the mean
of where you should be placed play better basketball. But
all that being said, Xavier is not a team at
this point in time that you would have any interest
in laying points with. It's in fact, I'll tell you this,
it's a game where, like I said my overnight sheet

(53:13):
here last night, I absolutely crossed it off because I
want to see Xavier playing against some lesser competition first
and just see if I can get a true read
on them. Are they just a team that's not going
to compete in Big East Basketball this year, or are
they a team where, you know, against lesser competition, maybe
they have a chance. I looked at total in this game, guys,

(53:34):
because that's where my eyes are always first drawn to.
But in watching Patinos and the other night against Iowa,
I had Iowa lane fifteen and a half, and Xavier
was in that game for I don't know half of
the game, and then the damn just broke and Iowa
poured it on. There was a time when I thought, man,

(53:54):
I might not make this fifteen and a half. Then
it teetered fourteen sixteen, fourteen sixteen until Iowa got the
to get the cover. So they hung in a little
bit against a very good Iowa team in Carver Hawk eye.
That's not the easiest thing to do. I would in
my personal case, I'm gonna stay away from Xavier until
I get a couple more reads on them. We know
they're not what they usually are, but what does that

(54:18):
mean exactly? I'm not so sure, so I'll stay off
of this game. I can't argue anybody off of ODU
after the results we've seen so far.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Up muted, thank you, mute trick.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Sorry, I'll point out something that came to mind as
I look at Xavier's like recent results, I'm having similar
pause that I had with the Drake Charleston game last night,
like where it's like a couple of just such horrific results,
and you know, you look at you talk about like Xavier,
you know, you get blown out at home by Santa Clara,

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you end up losing by nineteen to Eyewall, the like
Rob said, there was some like redeeming qualities in that
in that game, listen, at some point, like it's still
Richard Patino, He's still got some talent. At some point
they're gonna probably have a good one at home. And
my whole thing is like Old Dominion, I probably i'd
probably have a different opinion if I didn't watch that

(55:19):
ODU George Washington game over the weekend, because I thought
Old Dominion was gonna be a live dog there and
they just got run out of the building by George Washington.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Now George Washington's good this year. I like them.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
They're a better team than Xavier, but like they were also,
I think laying like seventeen to Old Dominion in that
game destroyed them. So now it's like only again. I
think the books got this number right. I would have
liked a number closer to I would have been more
willing to take Old Dominion if I was getting the
same number that I was getting in that that George

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Washington ODU game. But now that I'm only it's only
nine and a half. Like, I don't know. Something tells
me if Xavier puts together a game, they're gonna win
this by ten, ten, eleven, twelve. So I'm kind of
out on this one. No play for me, Rob, I'm
gonna kick it back to you because you're the West
Coast guru and we have a rivalry in Riverside tonight

(56:14):
that Garth would like to talk about. So let's bring
Garth back in. Let's talk about two schools that are
about eight minutes apart, and that would.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Be cal Baptist and Uce Riverside.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I don't know much about this rivalry, but I'm sure
the fact that they're eight minutes apart makes it a
big deal locally. And Garth wants to talk about totals,
so that's kind of West Coast and totals is right
in your wheelhouse, so we'll go to you here.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
First. Inclination where cal Baptist is involved is to probably
try and stay under again. Rick Froyd is a guy
who we've I remember best from Mississippi State at the time.
Slower paced guy brings that to Baptist. As I look
at the analytics now, three hundred and ninety average possession length,

(57:01):
so that goes right with who he is trying to
slow this game down against Riverside. Riverside, I think we
talked about guys. Was it the New Mexico game? It
was some game where we talked about them a little bit.
Gus Arginal a guy who has tried to change styles
for Riverside two and two so far, the schedule has

(57:21):
not been better. It's interesting that you play North Dakota
in a home and home. Those games were very close
four and two points lose by fourteen, however, to New
Mexico and a team that's actually in a complete grassroots
rebuilding stage at this point in time, so that's not
a good sign. I think my best advice on this

(57:45):
game comes to something we've been saying for about two
and a half weeks now, is that some of these
teams that have some philosophical changes in their style take
time to gel. To me, Riverside is one of those.
Baptist knows who they are. I think they can control
the game here and a half Brian. I think we

(58:07):
said it earlier this year. When you get involved in
games like this, a lot of times you don't realize
how hard it is to get to one forty. When
you have the crawlers on the floor. It's just and
it's not like you're going to get a ton of
foul shot opportunities in this game. So the odds maker
probably has this price in a really good place at
this point in time, and I would be hesitant to

(58:29):
play either way. I'm not going to talk anybody off
of a off of a feeling that they have on
a game, especially if I don't have a stance on it.
So if you want to play over Garth, I would
play over. But to me, the numbers are too tough
of a place for me to give really solid advice
either way.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
You know, if you're looking for a team who's scoring
points to night, I'm just going to do a hard
right turn here trick before the parlay recap when we
get out of here for team team that I think
is going to put some points on the board. And
it's a team we've talked about on this program, Forced
State University playing Eastern Kentucky. Eastern Eastern Kentucky is a team.
The way they are going to play defense, they give
up a lot of open looks from three. And what

(59:12):
has Kent State been doing so far this year? They've
been knocking them down. This is a team that we've
mentioned the show. They're shooting a lot better from three
than they did last year. I think that continues today.
I would look at the Kent State team total over
against Eastern Kentucky and that number real quick here I
forgot I wrote it down on the I didn't write
it down eighty four and a half. I think they

(59:32):
can get to it. They cleared it their first three
games of the year. Kept they scored one ten, eighty
six and one two their first three games before scorredill
only seventy six against Wright State that one to two
against Cleveland State. By the way I was played, the
game was playing in Greenbrier, a resort out in the
middle of nowhere in West Virginia by the National Department

(59:54):
for those keeping squirredal Yeah, for those keeping score at home.
So this is a kent State team that can score
no matter where they're at home. Tonight, I think Eastern
Kentucky struggles get stops.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I just realized someone said, you sound good trigging. That
was definitely when I was muted. So outstanding troll right there.
That's I'll tip my cap to that one. Absolutely love it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I don't like the sound of my voice either, but
I some things in life you don't get to choose,
and that is you know that, that's one of them.
I'm just scrolling here because we typically have to get
out right at the hour mark.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Today we have another minute.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm trying to get one at the horn and then
we'll recap the parlay because I know we got other
shows to be on and stuff. I'm just doing a
quick walk today. Yeah, Brian Power will be on Wager
Talk today. It is five dollars Tuesday. Check out our pages.
I'll put one of my pages up, or I'll put
one of my plays up on the page. But also
I'm gonna have a pretty big card today college Hoop

(01:00:55):
because I've already got three plays out and there's like
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Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
It's a great deal for three days and you get
all the plays for three days, and in college basketball season,
for me, that's gonna be much more volume than it
will the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I got one I want to finish it up with
because I just think that this game deserves a little
bit of attention out here in Western New York. Tonight
we have a couple four and oh teams going at it,
and that would be the Vermont Catamounts and the Buffalo Bulls.
Figured Vermont would be four and oh at this point,
did not expect Buffalo another Max school Brian to be four.

(01:01:36):
Power rating wise, I think Vermont is the superior team.
It opened minus one and a half. I agree with
the move up to three. I think it got to
three and a half and some folks punched back with
Buffalo have I think it's gonna be a really good game.
Slightly into Vermont toward me for me there, just because
I think they're the superior team. I don't give Buffalo

(01:01:57):
like this huge home court edge. They tend to not
get like a very you know that they if I
recalled this, Buffalo plays football tonight too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Somewhere? Are they playing in one of the Mac games tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Is it tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
They played?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
They played tomorrow against Miami Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Oh, actually so they have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think that's a game that's in Buffalo. Is that
game in Buffalo?

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, the quitter.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Dick one again will not be a companying Miami Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Yeah, maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
You'll get some folks out of that game. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
My my initial gut on the open was that if
you could get a Vermont money line at like minus
one twenty five, like they're just a superior of those
two teams. And I wish I had more of a
handicap there for you. But should be a good game.
And uh, you know, just to touch on before I
closed out, did you enter any of you have have
a thought on Vermont Buffalo in college basketball tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
I'll pass.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yeah, it's fine. Hey, I actually think that that's probably
the play. But you know, sneaky matchup there with a
couple of teams that have kind of started four and
oh uh, you know, I certainly don't think anyone had
Buffalo four. And now at this point outright went over
to Paul as an eighteen and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Point dog on the road for the Bulls.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
So it should be an interesting game, a lot of
interesting games, a lot of plays to check out our
respective pages. It's five dollars Tuesday, so you're gonna be
able to grab a five dollars play from each of us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
A bunch of good specials up there right now. I
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Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
My client plays in the parlay that's going to be
Monmouth plus twenty two and plus twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I saw twenty one and a half's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
That's fine if you can, you know, if you have
to take twenty one and a half in that, I
think that's still fine for a three percent play, which
is what I gave to my clients. We have Brian Power,
He's going iona minus three and a half and then
Vino's gonna close it out in the nightcap of that
New York City Big Time feature doubleheader tonight with Duke

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over eighty and a half. So mom myth plus twenty two,
ion A minus three and a half and then Duke
over eighty and a half. Thank you guys for bearing
with us today. Sorry about the technical difficulties. It looks
like it wasn't just us. Seems like a few people
had Internet problems this morning. So we got through the show.
Hopefully we got you some winners and we will be back,

(01:04:13):
you know, as long as the Internet allows it. We'll
be back at ten am tomorrow for another edition of
Full Court Press.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
We'll see you guys then,