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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, welcome in everybody. It is Beast week day two.
It's Tuesday. That's not Brian Power or Rob Veto, but
that's Matt Winnick. He's filling in today. Matt, introduce yourself
to the Full Court Press Chat.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
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to have you fill in today and and a couple
of times this week, as as my co hosts are
traveling for Thanksgiving. That's something I don't have to do
this year, and I am. I couldn't be happier about
it because I just get to sit home and watch
games all day. It's it's been great. But Matt, we're
gonna get right into it. So we pick a feature
game and then we let it rip off the chat
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for the rest of the hour. Today's feature game, let's
go to the two ranked teams. Let's go out to
the players era Houston, Tennessee. How are you seeing this one?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The first thing that comes to my mind when I
think about this game is Tennessee being first in the
country in offensive rebounding rate forty nine percent. And then Houston,
where you like immediately think oh, elite offensive rebounding and
their two games against Power Conference teams Auburn and Syracuse,
they're plus three in offensive rebounding, so they're not dominating
the offensive glass that they have in previous years. Jojo Tugler,
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for all his strengths, he's a good offensive rebounder, but
he's not physically extremely strong, right. It's his arms. He's
tipping balls out, he's not grabbing these and going back
up with it, and he's been awful around the rims.
So you think you know big man advantage pretty clearly
Tennessee here. So if Tennessee's dominating the boards, if they
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have the better big men grouping at least on the
glass and offensively, then Houston has to win the guard
game pretty significantly. Obviously, Nata Meant and Jacoby Gillespie were
both unbelievable in their game against Rutgers, but it was
ruckers and they were red hot from the field, and
they're not gonna be red hot in this one. So
if the trio of Kingston Flemings, Emmanuel Sharp and use
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Ends significantly outplayed Tennessee's perimeter, then Houston still probably finds
a way despite the rebounding battle it they'll probably lose.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, So I should have mentioned at the top.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We have a rematch of an Elite eight matchup last
year in a game where I felt like Tennessee had
a very solid game plan. In that game, they just
dug themselves far too big of a hole. If I'm
going off memory, but I think that was the game
where they were still in single digits, like almost fifteen
minutes into the half.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Just could not hit a shot in the early.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Stages of that game, and it turned into a pretty
competitive game when it was all said and done, but
they just dug themselves far too big of a hole
in that game. Just going back kind of, you know,
reading through the box score of that one quickly and
just remembering that the flow of that game, I feel
like there's gonna be it's going to be tough to
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get shots off, maybe for both teams good shots at least.
So I'm not a huge I've told the chat many
times a total sandicapper.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's not really how I go about it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But this is one where I could see points being
at a little bit of a premium, so I sort
of lean to the under, but not with any sort
of real conviction.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And the other thing with that is both teams, you know,
you think very physical get to the free throw line
a lot. They don't. They don't get into the free
throw line at all. So this is just going to
be a lot of shot making from two teams with
yes body shot making. Now, of course that one under
in March Madness, but Tennessee shot seventeen percent from three.
They'll probably shoot better this game. But for those that
were watching Tennessee's exhibition game against Duke, probably the most
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physical team Tennessee's played so far this year, obviously that
game didn't count. Aman and Gillespie had serious trouble getting
good shots off, and that's probably happening again. It's just
going to come down to which team hits shots.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, and I think back to our conversation about Tennessee
Rutgers yesterday and thinking that, you know, we were all
kind of wrong on that game, and and I'll address
I'll address how wrong we were on the show yesterday
in just a second, because that was not our best
work on the show yesterday. But like Matts, Matt said
before we got out on the area, He's like, I
wasn't here for that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I said, yeah, no, you're you're right. This is a
clean slate.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But uh, I thought Rutgers would give Tennessee a little
bit more trouble than they did in terms of like
open looks and stuff like that, and I chalk that
up more to just Rutgers is really like starting at
the bottom right now. So it's like, I'm not gonna
give Tennessee just a ton of credit for blowing that
team out. You know, Rutgers is a loss to Central
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Connecticut State. They're just that that's not something like I
don't I don't view Tennessee's huge win over Rutgers as like, oh,
like this team is is is that much better than
I thought they were prior to yesterday when I thought
Rutgers might cover that number. So uh, yeah, it'll be
an interesting game. I'm fine, Like these are these are
tougher games to bet, these sort of neutral core your
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edges are likely not going to be in those, but uh,
we're gonna get hit some of the bigger ones now again.
Yeahyesterday it was probably our worst show from a like
win loss perspective, so we apologize for that now. I
personally had one of my best days of the season.
I went four and one on my five picks for clients.
But all the stuff we talked about on the show
just went up and flames. So we're gonna try to
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switch that here. And as always we you know, we
we're gonna hit the games that you want to talk
about in the chat. If you're gonna donate to the channel,
we're gonna hit you right away. And so Garth wants
to go way off the way off the board here,
way off the beaten path. I love this stuff. This
is this is what I live for eight and four
in chat plays. So yeah, we've done well for Garth.
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Every time he brings up a play, we talk about
it and it hits. He wants to talk about Hampton tonight,
and Matt, I gotta ask you, like, when was the
last time Maryland Eastern Shore had a home non conference
game of like with an actual opponent. I feel like
they don't get these very often, and so I'll give
you a second to navigate there.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But this is Hampton. They are too.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I believe it's Princess and Maryland tonight to take on
Maryland Eastern Shore.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Garth leans Hampton. I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I'll let you sort of start it off, but I'm
higher than the market on Hampton.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So we'll see what you have to say about this one.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, well, Hampton hasn't shot a lick as of late. Now,
granted they're not a very good shooting team, but they
started season thirty eight percent from three against Milwaukee in
a tight four point loss at Milwaukee, pretty impressive result.
And then since then twenty three percent, fifteen percent, twenty
five percent, seventeen percent, thirty percent. The shots aren't going
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in not a lot of shooters, but the shots still
aren't going in. Maryland Eastern Shore is going to make
you hit threes, and they're due for some defensive regression.
They're allowing teams to shoot twenty five percent from three.
So if you're a trends person, if you think steatus
quo is going to continue, then Hampton's gonna have a
lot of trouble scoring. But if you believe that Hampton
is not a twenty five percent three point shooting team,
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and you don't believe that Maryland Eastern Shore is a
twenty five percent defensive three point shooting team, then Hampton
probably scores at least some points. Here. Maryland Eastern Shore
got it pretty significant nine point Ken Palm boost for
beating Binghamton in the Nobody was watching cancious mte over
the weekend. Binghamton was down to basically six players. It
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was a disaster and Maryland Eastern Shore as the longest
bench in the country, so they were able to sort
of outwill Binghamton on a back to back, but the
day prior they lost to Canisius, one of the worst
teams in the country. Hampton just has to be good here.
They had to crash the offensive glass. They have to
use their size and athleticism advantage and they have to
just shoot okay from three. And if they do that,
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I know Maryland Eastern Shore gets like one Division One
home game non con a year, and this might be
a big spot for them. Granted students might be home
for Thanksgiving. Hampton should win this game by more than three.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I was at so I got to go out to
Saint Francis last year to see a game and their coach,
Coach Krimmel, who I ended up becoming. When I went
out there, I didn't think St. Francis was just going
to become like a national news story, but he came
in so we I got to go into like the
pre thing for season ticket holders. I was there as
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a media person and he he came in and it
was cool. You don't always see this, but he came
in and talked to everyone like twenty minutes before the game,
talked about who was in, who was out, and one
of the things he said was, listen, if we have
a hard time getting home games, if someone wants to
come play you like, and it's a you know a
team that's like I think it was Lehigh that came
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in for them. In this case it's Hampton. You just
have to schedule it whenever. The reason I bring that
up is Marylyn Eastern Shore was up here playing like
three games and three days they get like a day off.
Now they're turning around and essentially stepping up in class
on their home for because Hampton is still a step
up in class from a from a MEAC school. Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The thing I've noticed about Hampton.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So I got to go down there two seasons ago
as well, and it was a complete circus. Ivan Thomas
is really instilled like a somewhat of a professional atmosphere
down there.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He of course comes from Georgetown.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He was one of ed Ed Cooley's guy's Providence and
then you know, I believe he's from the DC area.
But that team is functioning at such a higher level
than they have in past years. And I think last
year was kind of obviously year zero. Get some people in.
I think Hampton could surprise some folks. And and Garth,
I'm kind of with you. I I Hampton is one.
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I'm going to give a lot more thought if that,
if that number is still there.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And they have your guy, they have your guy, Mike Ealy.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's right, Yeah, that's right, former former Sienna saint there.
I feel like if you're a guard at Sianna, you
put in two years and then you just go wherever
you want. Pretty much at this point, guys like Jalen
pick At, JV on a column, Jordan King, so many yes,
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Mike Eely was a little bit of a bust at Sienna.
It's always hurt, it was always hurt. Hopefully he'll be
better for for Hampton. And Garth, I think you, uh,
I think you've got a good bet on the Hampton
side there. All right, let's hit the chat. Let's see
these Northern schools kicking ass last night.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Someone.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Let's let's go all right, well, we'll do this. I'm
gonna get one more. I'm gonna go to the big
to big game number two, which I was gonna put
behind Tennessee, the Tennessee game, and then we'll get back
into the chat. So my kind of co feature for today,
I know you've got a chance to see this team
in person. A couple of weeks ago looked awesome. Uh
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Saint John's taking on Baylor. Rematch of a game from
last year that was down in the Bahamas, which had
a tremendous finish and and was just one of the
sort of the games of Feast week last Here you
got to see Saint John's up close and personal a
couple of weeks ago against Alabama. How do you think
they match up with Baylor here?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't think Baylor's good. I don't think Baylor's good.
There are two by games, non covers against Tarleton and
UTRGV granted too decent mid majors teams that could win
their league. They beat Washington. Washington shoots fifteen percent from
three three of twenty. They beat Crayton. Creighton is in
all sorts of shambles, getting killed left and right, lose
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their starter in Jackson, MC Andrew and Baylor needs a
late surge to beat them. So what have they proven
outside of they can beat Washington at home when Washington
can't shoot, and they can beat a reeling Creighton team
with the late poll away Saint John's in their two
games against any team worth something like down to the
wire with Alabama down or the wire with Iowa State,
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two teams that could very easily make the final four
Sweet sixteen. At bare minimum, those are two teams. One
team has proven they can compete with the top of
the country, and one team has proven basically nothing. Baylor
has been without Justlin Bodoboto all season. He continues to
be out. He should be their starting center, he is
their best defender, and then their leading scorer Cameron Carr
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is shooting fifty three percent from three, so that's bound
to get down at some point. There's just not a
lot of love with this Baylor team. They're not overly big,
they're not overly athletic. They're only shooting thirty six percent
from deep. Despite Cam Carr's hot start, I think Saint
John's kills them here.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I'm with you on this one.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I would even you could even talk me into making
this one of the parlay legs. I too, am not
high on Baylor at all. I think it's been very
interesting to watch Baylor since they won a national championship
back in twenty twenty one, and just how good that
Baylor team was defensively and how bad they've been almost
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on a how it's almost like they've dropped off on
an annual basis defensively from what they were when they
were like a true elite team, which which is really
you'd have to go back to twenty twenty one to
find a really elite Baylor team, when when Scott Drew
was being getting praised for incredible defense and stuff like that.
They still get good offensive players, but the defense has
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just dropped off every year. If I remember correctly that
game last year, I mean, they were on skates in
the first half and they couldn't stay in front of
a single Saint John's player. Believe they were down twenty
at one point early and they almost just kind of
willed their way back into that. But I also think
that that Baylor team maybe was a little bit more talented.
It was just like they just kind of willed their
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way back into the game. Hit a big shot. A
lot had to go right for Baylor to win that game.
I kind of think their Saint John's is just going
to abuse them up front. You kind of mentioned it,
the where's the rim defense gonna come from the front
line of.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Baylor being weak?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think, you know, you go back to yesterday, Iowa
State maybe a little bit better equipped to disrupt Saint
John's guards and I don't know that Baylor does that
to them. So I too like Saint John's in a
bounce back spot here.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And so uh yeah, we will. We will do what
we do on a daily basis. We will lock in
the three team er. I'll get a quick promotion and
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So so check my page out, check all the handicappers page.
That is the promo on Tuesday. And yeah, well we'll
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keep we'll kind of you know, lock it in the
parlay as we go along. But that's certainly a clubhouse leader.
I think right now, what would be Saint John's minus
the points? All right, let's go to the chat because
while I'm while I'm on the topic, so I'll i'll
I'll give one out that I bet that I that's
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not going to go in the parlay, and I'll explain why,
and then I'm also going to give a chance to
tell me if I should play back or not. So
I am pretty confident that Lipsey is out for Iowa
State today. I think the line move would suggest that
I put this in late last night while I was
up sweating out Maryland UNLV at like one in the morning.
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I took Creighton plus nine and a half. Had a
feeling I was going to I was going to end
up with a good number there, and part of my
reasoning for that was my number already leaned Crayton. Regardless
at that number, even if Lipsey was in. Now he's out.
Now I have a good number. But like matchup wise,
would do you do you like Iowa State at the
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new number? How are you seeing Iowa State Creyton?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
These teams already played the game didn't count, but they
played this October in the exhibition slate Iowa State, who
I'm almost certain had no tame and lipsy in that one. Actually,
I do know they had no tame and Lipsey in
that one they killed Craton. I think they won by seventeen.
And essentially the way the game went was Creighton, like
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they always do, forced a lot of isolation and non
Taman Lipsey guards stunk at it because Killion Toure and
Jamie jamri On Bateman, who will have to play much
bigger roles here, are just role players. They're not on
ball guys. And Mala mom Chilovich is more of an
off ball than a non ball as well. And then
Iowa States pressure and aggression just killed Creighton, who doesn't
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have a lead guard. Nick Graves is on the ball
the most, but he's not a great shooter. Blake Harper
is a little bit shaky kind of point forward, but
stepping up three levels of competition after Howard, and this
was just a defensive slug fest. Now, obviously teams were
tinkering trying things out. Owen Freeman didn't play, though granted
Owen Freeman barely played yesterday because he couldn't get a rebound.
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Iowa State is good enough to win this game by
ten without Tam and Lipsey, but it is going to
be a lot tougher. The margin for Era is going
to be small, They're gonna have to play an a game.
I don't know if they play an a game after
a super emotional win. I do think they hang on
and win this one. But obviously double digits is a
pretty significant number to cover when you were talking about
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a Creighton team that is pretty desperate for a win
at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, So that that was my thought process with playing
the nine and a half and just saying, you know what,
I'll play it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'll go to bed, I'll see what happens in the morning.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Like worst case scenario, I think I'm gonna end up
with a good number at nine and a half. If
I'm right about Lipsey being out, You're gonna have a
young backcourt in Iowa State. It's still like, you know
you still I think you made a really good point.
You still have to win by ten, Like Iowa State
can very well win this game. Maybe it's not by ten.
The I guess the devil's advocate would be, you know,
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Iowa Statesmen a team the last couple of years that
like they'll have a guy out, the sharp guys will
bet the other side and they just come out and
win by twenty five. Anyway, Like it's no big deal,
and that is certainly a concern of mine.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I do see that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Like, as soon as this hits six and a half,
it seems to have popped back up to seven most places.
So if we're just having a betting conversation here, it
looks like it looks like the resistance point is six
and a half, where folks are just like, yeah, like,
I'll roll the dice with Iowa State without Lipsey at
minus six and a half, and I can't really disagree
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with that. I'll have to you know, again, this is
a two PM tip. I am locked in with a
good number on Creton. Maybe I'll play for a middle
for a little bit less, but at the very least,
it is going to be difficult, in my opinion, without
Lipsey for Iowa State to win this game by double digits.
Well they still win, maybe I think double digits could
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be difficult. It's fair, all right, let's hit chat and
by you bets. That's my buddy, Keith Landry, he says,
Otzenburger coach and McDermott for years. These two highly respect
each other and know each other well. Could see this
game being within ten by you. I hope you are right.
Because if I do play back, it won't be for
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the full amount, so it will be uh, you know,
I will I will need a Creighton cover of nine
and a half one way or another. All right, let's go,
Let's go back to the MIAK here. Costly says, anyone
got action on Rider Compenstate. Rider's kind of a mess
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right now. Riders school might be closed if they don't
get some money. Like I think they're one hundred and
thirty million in debt at that school right now. It's
a it's kind of a mess. I know, Kevin Badget's
been there forever. He's like vowed to like help any
way possible. The reason I bring it up is I
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wonder if that's crept into athletics at all. I mean,
this is the this is like, I mean, this drop
off for them is like in the MAC Conference, Like
they sort of went from a team that was always
kind of in the mix to now they're just they're
probably gonna finish last this year. At least they are
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projected to finish very close to the bottom of the league.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Let me head over to the extra board to find
a current number on this one.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
See now my problem here, Matt is Copp and State,
I think is one of the worst teams in the country.
So is Ryder bad enough where you're willing to take
cop and State with the points or where you lay
it with Ryder?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That is the question everyone's dying to know.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't think that Riders should be nine points fit
and favorites about anyone in the country other than Mississippi
Valley State. Now, the flip side of that is, if
you're looking at Kenpom, Copp and State is the second
worst team in the country behind Mississippi Valley State. So
the thing with Ryder, it's hard to really think about
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because you see the results and they got absolutely murdered
by Houston. They got murdered by Rutgers, who then turn
around and lost by fifteen the Central Connecticut Ryder has
the second toughest schedule in the country so far.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
They've played junior Rutgers, Texas, Houston.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Sorry I didn't mean to cut you offense.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They've played the second hardest and number one in terms
of defensive ratings. So they've played the toughest defensive schedule
in the country. So when you look and see that
they have the worst shooting numbers in the entire country. Well,
that makes sense. They've played four really good defensive teams
compon state, much better defensive than offensive, but they're not
particularly good. And they've played two sub two hundred teams,
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but they got murdered in both of them. LaSalle twenty eight,
Central Michigan twenty three, two completely non competitive teams. When
you hear that, you think close, like when Bingham, Like
we just talked about it. Maryland Eastern Shore went Tokenisius
and played Canisius and Minghamton, two awful teams the final spreads,
and those ones were both relatively close. This this is
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probably close. I don't think you should do anything with that,
but yeah, Ryder nine is a lot of plaints.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Hampton is up to minus five since we talked about it,
so they someone agreed out there, because Hampton has gotten
slammed over like the last twenty minutes or so, probably
up to where it should be.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
So uh, I think it was Garth.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think you have a good bet with Hampton if
you took minus two and a half back to this
as far as this game is concerned.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So my buddy Aaron Kidd.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Very he's a ball knower and he's also a very
big Virginia fan goes to a lot of games, texting
me when he was at that Virginia Rider game and said,
you know, Flashburton looks like he's a stud that should
be very good in the MAC.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I agreed with him on that standpoint.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I guess that that come you know, I come back
to like Zion Cruz was a guy as a MAC guy.
I watch a lot of Mac basketball, m AAC. I
know we're changing the name finally apparently of the conference,
so there's no more confusion. But I really liked I
was very high on Cruise coming in last year.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Now he's in year two at Ryders.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So it's like, I look at this Rider team, I
look at comp and State like Riders like significantly better
in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Still, but I'm kind of with you, Like laying.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Nine is is awfully difficult based on just sort of
what they look like so far, what they look like
on paper outside of those guards. It's it's very difficult
to lay nine.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, no, it's a it's a lot of points in
a game that will be very slow and not a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Steven I I, well, I disagree a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Ryder has a little bit of a home court edge.
That was.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's always when the Mac schools don't like to go
there for whatever reason. But it's like when I ever
Sienna is good. I feel like they always get tripped
up at Ryder. But maybe to that point, like that's February.
It's a small gym, they have a crowd. I don't
know how the crowd's gonna be Thanksgiving Tuesday at Riders,
so we'll see about that. But I don't think they've
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had a home game yet outside of a non board game,
non d one, so maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
They will get some fans in attendance.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Let's go back. Let's go back to the chat.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Someone says it's a first live show. We very much
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Speaker 3 (25:41):
While you're there, drop a comment.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I know I saw a lot of the comments yesterday
or like yeah, you guys were trash. Yeah, yesterday was
probably our worst show, but I also have we've had
shows where we've hit like everything, so we needed to
keep that same energy.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And I had one of my best days yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So I'll trade the bad show for the big client
pick day sort of any day of the week, I guess.
But we want to win them all. That's always the goal,
and we are going to try to win more bets today.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
That's that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
We'll lock in a parlay by the end of the
show and yeah, let's get Let's.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Go to Ethan.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Ethan came to the Bowling Green game with Brian Power
and I great time with him checking out Bowling Green
Lamoyne a couple of weeks ago. I know he's a
Michigan State fan, So Ethan any opinion on East Carolina
Michigan State.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He's not super familiar with ECU. Matt.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think this is kind of like one of the
lesser tournaments. I was a little surprised to see Michigan
State pop up in this field.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
They're a big.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Favorite against East Carolina. What can you can you tell
Ethan about this game?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, this is less of a tournament and more of
Michigan State and North Carolina wanted to play each other,
and they wanted to also get a secondary game in there,
so they were able to find two teams in this
case Aint Moantaventure, East Carolina that wanted to play a
power conference team. Everyone's happy. Everyone gets two games. We
can all they are unwarmed. I believe they're in Florida. Yeah,
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pt Meyers. Everyone's happy East Carolina. If you're a regression
type person, which I definitely can be in certain situations somehow,
and it feels impossible. Bottom fifteen in the country in
three point offense and three point defense, that's impossible through
four games to be shooting under twenty three percent and
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to be allowing forty one and a half percent. That
three point gulf of nineteen percent is insane, like you,
that cannot last for any longer. Michigan State, of course,
the whole story when they just played Kentucky was they
can't shoot, and they had the best shooting game in
their lives. So if you don't believe in regression, I
would say, watch that game. Regression is real. But then
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they went right back to under thirty percent against Detroit
Mercy in the game they won by twenty eight. I
believe they were favored by more. Michigan's State not much
of a look ahead team because tom Izzo is a
very focused man. But obviously you got to think about
look ahead at least a little bit. They get North
Carolina in two days. East Carolina is going to allow
teams to shoot a little bit worse than three. Eventually
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they're gonna hit the couple. Eventually they have like under
fifteen makes in the year, and they have a couple
of massive, massive dudes. They're the starting center GEO m
Maajuru also former Siena guy. He's one of the biggest
just like physically largest men in the country. They have
two other six to ten guys, then they got sorry,
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they have three other six to ten guys and then
a six eight guy. So they have the physicality to
not get absolutely overwhelmed by Michigan State. Think about the
huge line, think about Michigan State not dominating down low
with ECUs size atypical of the mid major, and think
about East Carolina getting so three point luck, and then
you're thinking twenty might be a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So the day that you went to that Saint John's
Alabama game, I was up in East Lansing and I
got to see Michigan State play Arkansas. Great game was
an awesome time, fantastic environment. My big takeaway from that
game was if Michigan State could make a three, they
would have won this game by fifteen twenty points. I
mean they were, they led the majority of the game,
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a lot of the game, and I think they were
like one for fourteen from three. So you goes back
to something that you talked about right at the top.
If East Carolina is gonna give three pointers up like
that's you know, if you're helping Michigan State right there,
if you know, if you're gonna kind of not defend
the three point arc and they're gonna get good looks
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because they're obviously going to create and transition.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
They've got size they can get in the paint.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So this is a huge number and I think it's
I think it's ticked.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Up even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I think at the opener I would have maybe leaned
Michigan State. Now I know I had the opener jotted down.
Is twenty one and a half? Are we up to
like twenty three and a half twenty four right now?
I think that might be where we're at.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I know, there's so many there's so many games, like
even like two huge screens, I still lose my spot
with how many time one and a half? So that
that's come down, so twenty one and a half down
to twenty. These twenty point spreads are tough for me. Typically,
if I'm like, I'll play a twenty plus point underdog.
If I like it, like I had Radford last night,
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that was a winner. I yeah, Ethan, I see it.
Opener was twenty three and a half down to twenty
and a half. Michigan is minus twenty. I'm not big
on laying twenty points, like almost regardless of what the
scenario is. I just it's not the way I really
care to bet, so I'll probably I'm just gonna sit
that one out of making a sort of play there
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either way. But I do think if Michigan State's hitting threes,
it's probably getting out of hand at.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Something less likely even likely.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, yes, yeah, because they turned around and didn't shoot
it particularly well against San Jose State, that that's gonna
be their undoing this year is the ability.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
To knock down an outside shop for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay, let's move on. Let me get the I threw
the NC State and zip up bond just because I
needed something to wear today. But we should talk about
that game you talked about. You brought up Michael Ellie
and then you know, it made me think of a
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time at Siana when we had guys like Jordan, like
Jalen Pickett, like Jvon McCollum, Jordan King, all all of
these these good players, and that era was Shaheen Holloway
era at Saint Peter's and I can remember, like it's
tail is all this time, Sianna's rolling along, everything's working great,
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We're blowing teams out by ten to fifteen points and
then we have to go play Shaheen Holloway Saint Peter's
team and get.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Punched right in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And that is what happened to NC State yesterday, punched
in the mouth by Seaton Hall. They lose a game
that I don't think many thought they were gonna lose.
Now they play Boise State. I kind of think they
bounce back here. What do you think NC State Boise State.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What Shaheen Holloway did was he exposed the one serious
flaw of NC State, which is they have no riom protection.
Van Allen Lubin at six' nine as they're five man
and he is he has one block this. Season he's
one block all. Season Darien williams at the flour at sixty.
Sixth they're. Small obviously they're, aggressive that's What willway. Does
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but if you can get past their first line of
defense and get towards the, rim you're gonna score a
lot of. Points And Seaton hall was sixty five percent from.
Two Boise state is two hundred and forty ninth in
the country at two point field goal. Percentage they're not,
big they're not, athletic they don't have a post, presence
they're not overly. Physical that is like music TO Nc
state years when when you can't score, inside EVEN, vcu
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who almost took DOWN Nc state fifty eight percent from,
two if you can't dominate on the, interior you have
no chance AGAINST Nc state And Boise state cannot do.
That they they struggled to score inside Against Montana. State
they were sub forty percent from two Against Montana. State,
uh they're not going to dominate, inside which MEANS Nc
state's gonna win this game and probably buy a.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Lot. YEAH I i was In albuquerque last year for a.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Game it Was New. Mexico Boise.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
State shout out to the folks In New mexico because
they really took care of.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
ME i got to basically stand on the court for that.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Game the pit is awesome and and and the REASON
i bring that up is like one of my biggest
takeaways from that game When boise just got run out
of the building was how it was just how on
athletic they look next to a lot of other teams
THAT i already seen that year up close that were
in sort of like similar like like a similar or
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like you, know a Ten Mountain west type. Teams and
that was my big takeaway Was boise just really lacks.
Athletes AND i would say that the same is probably
true this. YEAR i haven't been overly impressed with their
half court, offense and, so like you, know this is
this is the type of game in my, opinion where
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like you, SAID Nc, state the athleticism should sort of reign,
supreme AND i just don't Think boise can do What
Seaton hall did to. Them so that this was one
on the on the opener of mine six and a,
HALF i had a pretty strong lean TOWARD Nt. STATE
i had not bet it, yet but it would only
BE Nc state in this one for me or pass
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what is, uh let me see IF i can again
navigating through the board. Here, yeah still six and a.
HALF i mean my numbers like eight and changed. There
that might be a big enough edge to play as
long as like The boise's just as long as those
rims aren't so soft that Every boise SHOT's GOING i
THINK i think you're good WITH Nc, state probably a
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double digit win for the Wolf. Back, yeah all, right
let's head back to the comments where we're getting to
more games. Today it, is, uh it, is you, know
one of the one of the pluses OF i Guess
i'm only having two of us as we kind of
are are just flying through. Games So ethan appreciate you tuning.
(35:23):
In appreciate you all tuning. In we're here to help
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Speaker 3 (35:39):
Doing we very much appreciate.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It and for twenty five more, minutes we're going to
keep rattling off thoughts and opinions and give out a
couple best. Bets SO i knew it was gonna get
brought up at some. POINT i, LISTEN i told you
before the. Show as someone that lives thirty minutes outside Of,
syracuse and even Though i'm not A i didn't grow up,
HERE i root for the local team LIKE i Want
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syracuse to do well BECAUSE i like.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Going to big games at The dome and The.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Lot we haven't had like a team that was really
worth going to see the last couple of. Years and after,
yesterday even Though i'm so disappointed that they missed seventeen
file shots and lost that, GAME i would say The
syracuse team might be worth going to.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
See they showed me something. YESTERDAY i thought the defense
was really.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Good they didn't Have Donnie, freeman yet they hung around
with a very Good houston.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Team quick.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Turnaround tricky matchup With kansas is this Where freeman being
out hurts them a little.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Bit syracuse's interior defense is. Awesome they're really good around the,
rim and that's really important Because, kansas with That Darren
peterson cannot. Shoot the four games they've played now since
he's gotten hurt eight, five four and six. Threes that's
twenty three threes and four. Games that's a very low.
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Number that's barely over. Five and those two games At
peterson played in ten and twelve, threes big. Difference so
If kansas's only action is really getting, Downhill melbourne councilill
get in the rim, florid but doing the post ups
it's a big problem Against. Syracuse that has proven now
even Against power conference team In, houston who shot thirty
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three percent from inside the. Arc syracuse can defend the
hoop at a very high. Level And i'll often like
throw a red flag if a team is defending the
two point arc or the two point area if they're
not blocking. Shots syracuse is seventeenth in the country and block,
rate so they're blocking shots and they're defending the. Rim
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kansas has become a defensive team Since peterson went. Out
syracuse's offense is way better With Donnie freeman he's. OUT
i don't think a lot of points in this. Game
that is my. Inclination both teams are going to slow
it down a little, bit and in a slower game
where not a lot of points are, happening you've got
to lean the dog at least a little.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Bit, yeah THAT'S i think that's you've kind of nailed.
IT i would say under it is probably the best
way to. GO i think if they didn't JUST i
would probably Like syracuse more in this. Spot had they
not just like played a game like the one they played,
yesterday lost in the fashion that they, lost left it
all out, there went to, Overtime i'd like them a
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little bit more. Today BUT i could definitely see a
lower scoring. Game how About William, KYLE i, mean he's,
like what a difference it is Watching syracuse play defense
when It's William kyle down there instead Of Eddie.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
LAMPKIN i Think william klea could jump Over Eddie.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
LAMPKIN i think you're probably. Right you talked about. Blocks
he had six blocks Against Delaware, state ten plus rebounds
in three of the five games he's, played and then
yesterday his first double of the season twelve point ten. Boards,
Yeah syracuse defense was awful the last couple of years at,
times like downright, awful especially last, year like they were
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just such a. Mess the first year Of, autrey it was, Like,
okay we're we're gonna try to play some, man but
really all that is is just running up and down
the floor and not playing the. Zone and then we
will play the zone a little. Bit this is such
a better defensive team Than syracuse the last couple of
years that you have to almost Play syracuse unders right
now when you can because you're still getting some of
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that prior from the past couple of. Years like this
is just a much better Defensive syracuse. Team So i'm with.
YOU a low scoring, Game.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Syracuse zero possessions of zone this. Year.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Zero, yeah that's what he always wanted to.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Do that was that was like Something autrey said when
he took, over was we're really going to get away
from from playing zone.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Now maybe maybe it's just the.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Personnel maybe he's got the personnel to not have to
fall back on, it or he's been able to successfully
phase it out at this. Point BUT i agree that
the defense was, very very impressive because Really, houston Typical
houston's gonna get in the paint and do whatever they,
want and they were not able to do that. Yesterday,
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okay let's head back to the. Chat, So, OKAY i,
KNEW i knew the the early games were coming at
some point by. You bets, says let's talk some breakfast
Ball Towson. Liberty, yeah this is a good. Game this
is this definitely deserves a spot on the. Show, uh
is this in our ELEVEN am tip. TIME i know
(40:23):
it's one of the early ones. Today Towson. LIBERTY i
believe we have a seven.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
And a half on the.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Number hold on by. You we're Gonna we're gonna give
me a second to pull this game. Up T, yeah
here we, go tows And. Liberty this one IS i
believe In, Orlando liberty opened a seven and a half point.
Favorite it looks like we're down to six some. Places
do you agree with the Towsand?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Money? YEAH i, mean, listen when the market sees a
team leads the country in three point percentage two weeks
from the, season they're always gonna. Do they're alway gonna
against that. Team it's gonna happen every. Time liberty shooting
forty six percent from, Three so they're, like, okay well
they're not this, Good we're going to go against. It
if there's a team that could actually shoot forty six
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percent from three on the, year it's This liberty. Team
they have so many elite shooting options THAT i think
it's totally possible you flipped that. Switch. Thousand we were
talking earlier About East carolina and how they were impossibly
bad at both offensive and defensive three point. Shooting towsand
is impossibly bad at shooting and impossibly good at defending.
(41:30):
It tousand games, combined on average have both teams shooting
a collective twenty four percent from. Three basic, math that's
half of What liberty is shooting from. Three so one
thing is going to. Break either nobody hits threes In
towsand games Or liberty hits a lot of. Threes there
is something is going to change in this. One so
(41:51):
it's very tough to predict which side of that pendulum
is going to. Go so you got to think about
extras or other things that aren't prepunt. Shooting even though
the aggression is a big piece of. Games right, Now
liberty is the smallest team in the, country the single
shortest team per Kenbom And towsand's elite on the offensive
and defensive. Glass If liberty has any ability to rebound this,
(42:14):
basketball they'll win this, game probably by more than the spread.
Suggests But liberty has not played a single team the
top one hundred in offensive rebounding right Yet towsand is
very much in the top one. Hundred If towson wins
the rebounding battle by ten fifteen, points they could win
this game out. Right SO i think if you're a
believer In towson's, rebounding you're a believer in them on this.
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Spread and if you're a believer In liberty, shooting you're
going to take them with the. Points you.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
KNOW i haven't gotten involved for or Against tawson, yet
but coming into the, season knowing they Had Tyler tahata
And Dylan williamson, BACK i thought that they would improve
offensively this, year LIKE i thought like looking at this.
Team so of Course towson ends up having a GREAT
caia season last, year gets upset in the in the conference.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Tournament they return.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Guys THAT i don't know THAT i fully expected them
to be able to. Retain so that was like very
positive that they were able to bring those guys. Back
and yet to your, point through what five or six,
games they're still outside the top three hundred nationally in
field goal percentage forty two point two percent from the,
field and they are one of the worst three point
shooting teams in the, Country so it looks like that
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hasn't really. Changed and, YEAH i, mean if you're if
you can't hit shots And liberty gets, hot like it's
it could be a ten point game pretty, Quickly SO
i don't. KNOW i certainly am not going to take
a worse number THAN i could have got at the. Open,
LIKE i THINK i could only play back at it
at this, point it would be probably it would probably
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be liberty.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Or pass for. Me just at the current.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Number this game is also going to be insanely. Slow
it's so.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Slow Jay buff's in the, Chat buff's acues. FAN i
know he's. HE i feel like he was was about
that performance yesterday though IF i remember, correctly he was
sort of, saying like they're gonna they may come up
(44:16):
and show. Up BUT i agreed with the just like
the sheer, TALENT i thought could at least keep it within.
Fourteen but we'll go to another player's air game For.
Buff he, says DID i miss? This? No you did
not feel like we're getting some value With rutgers now
at the current? Number do you? Agree he doesn't Think
Notre dame is seven points? Better so back To, Vegas, Matt,
(44:37):
Rutgers Notre. Dame how do you see this?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
One So rutgers is one cover this year they have
not covered in any of their other. Games in the
one game they. Covered they got to the free throw
line an insane amount that took thirty three free, throws
and they haven't covered any other. Game and then the
one game where they were, significantly significantly significant we below
(45:01):
projected was. There they were eighteen point favorites Against Central.
Connecticut they lose that right by. Thirteen in that, game
they get to the free throw line ten, times by
far the. Lowest Notre dame is not a great defensive,
team but one thing they're very good, at at least
historically Under Michael, shrewsbury is preventing free. Throws you're gonna
play really soft. Defense they're gonna let make you beat
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them from over the. Top they're not gonna let you
get into the. Paint they're not gonna let you get
to the free throw. Line If rutgers doesn't get to
the paint or the free throw, line they're not. Scoring
so as much as this is a big, number as
much As Notre dame struggles to score in their own,
RIGHT i just don't see How rutgers scores enough points
to compete.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Here, YEAH i kind of agree with.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
That the trying to think the one game That rutgers,
COVERED i believe WAS i THINK i can tell you
off off. MEMORY i believe it was The rider game
BECAUSE i Had rider plus the points in that game
and it was just, yeah they they lived at the foul.
Line they also LIKE i feel like they kind of you,
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know it almost is a testament maybe to how Bad
rider is this, year much much worse THAN i thought
they were on A november, Fifth Like i've Downgraded ryder
Since november, fifth so.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You, know notre.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Dame i'll point out they definitely took some respected money
yesterday Against.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Kansas it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
OUT i have a feeling that's probably why the number
is gone to where it, is like a lot of
times if you see if you see some sharp money
come in and hit a team and it, Loses especially
in this, FORMAT i feel like often you'll see the
same team get hit the next. Day almost it almost
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LIKE i don't even know if there's a reason for,
it it's just like how it works. Out SO i
got to my screen is not showing like a correct
opener at this?
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Point what did this?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Open like five and a? Half do you know what
the opener?
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Was off?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Hand that was MY i don't, either but, anyway it
looks like it looks like we're at like seven seven
and a half most. Places But i'm also with. YOU
i just LIKE i think right Now rutgers long term
is doing what they have to.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Do i've talked about it a couple of.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Times last, Year Ace Bailey Dylan harper was not A
Steve pikel type. TEAM i think he needs to start
from scratch and. Rebuild but there is no talent on this,
roster so it's it's hard to make a case For.
RUTGERS i didn't mind them like plus sixteen and a half,
yesterday but that was more of a fade Of tennessee
(47:36):
and they were just non. Existent SO i have no
interest in coming back with them. Here this is an interesting.
One this is an early one THAT i kind of
have a little bit of an opinion. On trev, says
let's Talk DELAWARE. Uncg delaware has the size and can
Abuse greensboro from. Three they also Have Justin fernandez, back
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WHO i think is gonna matter at some. Point AND
i know it didn't matter Against Southern, illinois but that
might have been a bad matchup for. THEM i kind
of Like delaware. Here how are you Seeing Delaware? GREENSBOROUGH
i don't like either team really at.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
All they're similar in the sense that both of them
are gonna allow a ton of, threes and Obviously delaware
is the better three point shooting team and that favors.
Them But Jamal brown missed their last. Game he's at
fifty three percent from. Three if he's, out that's a huge.
Loss and then talk about you AND. Cg delaware, is
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like you, mentioned a, lot much way taller of a
team U ncg bottom ten in the country can. Height
But delaware is not going to crash the glass at.
All they're not gonna get to the paint at. All
there's gonna be no free throws in this. Game both
teams are gonna protect the, paint pack it, in shoot
a lot of, threes and not get to the rim
in a three point shooting. Contest, YEAH i Prefer. Delaware
(48:52):
i'd love to know That Jamal brown is. BACK i
would imagine unlikely given they last played two days ago
and he was. Out But delaware makes, sense especially in
the game that should be pretty slow given both teams
have very small.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Benches, YEAH i think my motivation for A delaware play
would be more of a fate Of, greensboro like this
is the worst team that they've had in a couple of.
YEARS i, mean if you just look at the sheer
amount of talent that has left That greensboro roster in
the past couple of, years it kind of makes sense
that they're like way down from what they were really
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like two years ago and then even last year to
be able to, like you, know they lost so much
from that team two years ago and then they kind
of went out and like lucked their way into Like
Kenyon GILES i, think was, like you, know just awesome
there last, year and then he leaves and they lost
a couple of other guards from that. Team SO i
kind of want to play Against Greenboro greensboro in. SPOTS
(49:51):
i don't know If i'm confident enough In, delaware but
it's certainly the WAY i Lean at this. Point my
number was like right, On so If delaware has an,
INJURY i don't know IF i want to mess with that,
game which is of course early tip neutral.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Court crazier things have.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Happened.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Matt there's ten minutes left in the. Show i'm going
to put you on the.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Spot do you have a best bet or a leg
for the parlay that you want to lock.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
In let's Go Georgia southern minus one and a half
AGAINST utsa at nine pm. TONIGHT utsa is a. Disaster they're, really,
really really not. Good they have one cover Against. Denver
in that, game they shot forty eight percent from three on.
Volume it's not happening. Again there's thirty percent on the.
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Year lost by seventeen at home Against, siue lost by
eleven At Texas. State then on a neutral yesterday they
score fifty points and lose by eleven To Abilene. Christian
they're down to eight guys in their. Rotation they don't
Have Vishauna, lett who was supposed to be there starting point.
Guard he has not played yet this. Year the talent
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is extremely. LOW i don't Trust Awesome klanch at. All
and Then Georgia. Southern they're a talent not structure. Team
like if they're playing a team that's, structured that has
a style that is well, disciplined they'll lose that game
because they get killed on the. Glass they take some
bad shots, sometimes but they are very. Talented they're very,
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athletic and they're gonna run up and down the floor
and make you play a lot of, possessions which means they'll.
Win with the talent, disparity they're ranked about the same
And Ken, pom But Georgia southern plus fort plus forty
Four Ken pom spots on the year and THEN utsa
minus ninety and there's not insane three point regression where
it's like this team's, unlucky this team's. Lucky Georgia southern
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is trending up because they're, better AND utsa is trending
down because they're. Worse i'm not going to get remotely
close to THINKING i have any faith in THIS utsa
team to turn it around with their current, personnel and,
basically even spread give me the better, Team i'm Taking Georgia.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Southern, yeah and it looks Like Georgia southern's taken some.
Money but as far as the parlay is, concerned since
we're doing a three team Or i'm just gonna Put
Georgia southern money line in the, PARLAY i mean it's
gonna gonna turn out plus odds, Anyway so, yeah we'll
Go Georgia southern money line in the. Parlay and of,
COURSE i, mean if you want to be if if
viewers want to bet it STRAIGHT i think you could
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probably still lay three here if you had.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
To, now, okay, yeah three or like one and a,
Half like.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah that's the one fun thing about this. Show
slot ten to eleven Am, Eastern this is when the
board tends to light. Up like a lot of games
move in this. Hour we find him moving on the show.
Often but, yeah for the, PARLAY i think that's a great,
call and people can make their own. DECISIONS i, mean
you can play a minus one sixty money line if
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you if you play, accordingly there's nothing wrong with. That
so uh but, YEAH i got so So bayo bets
in the chat as a friend of, mine and he
texted me yesterday it was just like how did.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
We not Slam Abilene?
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Christian and it was like probably one of the things
that with so many games just.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Maybe fell through the cracks for.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
ME i also had a lot of other, plays but,
yeah that was ONE i WISH i could have gone
back and bet because for a lot of the things
that you pointed out right, there WHICH i hope continue
to continue to play out, Tonight i'm gonna Go i'll
go way off the board here to lock one. In
people people want early, games, WELL i got an early
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game for. You you're probably not gonna want to watch,
this but it. Is it is an early, game, nonetheless
and this will be the first leg of our. Parlay
we're gonna head to the extra board IF i can find. It,
MATT i right at the beginning of the, YEAR i
read all your. RANKINGS i looked at your, spreadsheet and
two teams that we seem to really agree on from
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a ranking standpoint that stood out to me were how
low you Had bryant BECAUSE, i as A cia, Guy
jamie And christian stopped in for a, day and you,
KNOW i didn't think he was going to do.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Much they are.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Terrible and then the other one Was, army WHO i
think is one of the worst teams in the. Country
that's another one that they very questionable coaching, change AND
i think is kind of coming back to bite them
a little bit because that seems terrible AND i don't
really know what the purpose of the coaching change. Was
the program is. NOW i think this is as bad
as they've been in, years And i've Got army like
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probably a bottom ten team in the. Country they are
going to play a neutral court game In hackensack. TODAY
i believe at the home Of Fairley dickinson Against East
TEXAS a AND, m AND i think this number is
way too. LOW i could not believe That army started
to take. Money it's the REASON i kind of haven't
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that it. Yet, also like, LISTEN i, MEAN i get,
It texas At East TEXAS a AND m coming up
here for AN Mte armies closer in. PROXIMITY i doubt
anyone's going to these games, anyway So i'm Still i'm
still looking at it as a true neutral. Court but
my number is much higher than three and a half
or even three some, Places but for the parlay's, Sake
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i'm gonna call it three and a. Half last week
on the, SHOW i talked About army AND i, said
when this team finally plays someone in their weight, class
meaning like a competitively lined, game because most Of army's
games recently fifteen point dog To, maris fifteen points up
to eighteen points Against, cornell huge underdog To Saint. Thomas and,
actually To army's, credit they're finding ways to not get
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completely run out in these, games which is surprising to.
ME i Thought Saint thomas was going to run them.
OUT i Thought cornell was going to run them, out Even,
marist they managed to keep it a little bit closer
THAN i. Expected this is the spot WHERE i kind
of want to finally go against them in a game
where it's like like team versus like, team and we
only have to HAVE i only have to cover a couple,
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points So i'm gonna Throw East TEXAS a AND m.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
In it is just a fade Of.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
ARMY i think this team is bad and any follow
up to, that BECAUSE i know you Had army ranked very.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Well, Yeah army is not. Good they've been feist to
you despite the fact that they haven't hit any. SHOTS
i bet you the market Likes East, texas Likes army
Because East texas is on a back to back Against Bairley.
Dickinson East texas is. Deep they play a lot of.
Guys it was a slow. GAME i don't think that
actually really. MATTERS i would say that you have something
on your.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Hands, yeah and, Again i'm just kind of LIKE i
was kind of, shocked being as it's an extra board,
game it's. EARLY i kind of Expected East TEXAS a
AND m and gets slammed at some, point and and
the fact that it's gone the other way LIKE i
may have to jump in and add this as a client.
Play I'LL i don't know If i'll know If i'm
going to do that prior to this, show but certainly
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if this gets to three and it's like a widely
available three like, that MGM's got three and a half
minus one oh five right. Now if that goes to,
THREE i might have no. Choice my numbers might force
me to uh to PLAY a AND m minus the points,
There and that's What i'm gonna for the.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Parlay we'll USE.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
A AND m minus three and a. Half So i'll
put the spread in uh to juice the odds up
a little. Bit and that means with three minutes, left
we got to decide what our what our consensus leg
is you want to Go Saint. John's we kind of
agree on that. One, well what is the what is
our current number for The? JOHNNIES i think it's minus.
SIX i think it's up to. Six does that change
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Your are you good with? That johnny is minus?
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Six all? Right so.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
We've got three minutes, left so one more. Time if
they missed it at the, top tell the folks where
they can find your stuff.
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Then i'll hopefully be respond. To. Yeah twitter is where
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Interact is THAT i see The basket Under review? Squad
is that like a friendly competition for picks on the?
Weekend now you do in a fantasy football thing where
the worst record has to like do something crazy OR.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
I think it's a little too late for, that but
that would have been probably a good idea BECAUSE i
KNEW i wasn't gonna finish.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
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thanksgiving we're gonna hit The Thanksgiving day. SLATE i wanted
to make sure that we got a show For thanksgiving
one more time before we sign. Off today's three, teamer
which is gonna Be matt's play my play in a
consensus leg plus four ninety two, Odds matt's gonna Go
Georgia southern on the money.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Line i'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Go Texas East TEXAS a AND m not to be
confused With TEXAS a AND m laying about one hundred,
tonight But East TEXAS a AND m minus three and
a half Against, army and then the consensus Leg matt
AND i both Agree Saint john's is Running baylor out
of the. Gym so that's your three, Teamer Saint john's minus,
Six East TEXAS a AND m minus three and a
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Half Georgia southern on the money. Line we'll see you
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