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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in to wager Talks Last Call.
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
Talk, has him going viral and that is because he's
been red hot here in the NFL. I'm gonna bring
Art onto the stage. See what he's doing here this morning.
Good morning Art. I know it's bright and early there
on the West Coast, so always appreciate you hanging out
with us. Let's just get right into this week's college
football card.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, let's start with the early stuff. And there's a
lot of early action that we've seen on these nine
AM Vegas kickoff times. Oklahoma, South Carolina. It's actually been
sharp on both sides. We've seen him lay Oklahoma as
low as four, take South Carolina as high as five
and a half.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Pretty good two way on that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yukon at bc BC was a one and a half
point favorite on the opener. Yukon has taken money. Yukon
now one point favorite in that game. This is a
game I remember talking about earlier in the week, and
it feels like he got faked down and that happens sometimes.
They took Georgia Tech. Early in the week at plus three,
we saw Duke as low.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
As one and a half.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We got up to Duke three and a half this morning,
and then there was a bite back on the three
and a half, so we're back to the original number,
Duke minus three.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I want to interject on that game because here's my thing.
A lot of people are texting me back and forth,
and I'm like, well, we know what got dummied up
because VR told me on bet on It about this game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But here's the real reality.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They didn't. Can you kind of let's let me back
it up for everybody who doesn't understand what's going on.
Can you kind of explained what the process is there
and what they did and how they set up that game?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Absolutely, I mean think about it earlier in the week,
right Sunday, when we open the lines Monday morning, lower limits,
but it doesn't mean things can't be moved. So if
you see money and it gets moved and the market
starts moving that way, absolutely you're gonna go with it.
And then obviously as we get closer to game time,
the limits increase and then they get the side they want.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It happens all the time. So does it always work.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, But it looks like Duke is the preferred side here,
So I think that is evident on what has happened
with that, you know, kind of fake movement early on
in the week and.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
US shooting up to his highest three and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Now, people are gonna buy all football numbers when they're
three and sevens.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
They're always going to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They see it three and a half, they're gonna take it,
especially if they laid one and a half with Duke.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They're looking for a middle.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So happens a lot, Okay, So the move was to
pump fake Georgia Tech so that they could come back
on the other side with Duke.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Duke.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Interesting that ranked versus unranked getting points, same thing we've
seen in a couple other games this year that actually
hasn't worked out in their favor.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So a very interesting line move there.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Go ahead and tell me what else we've got here
for this early morning slate.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, early morning Washington took money at Michigan plus six
plus five as low as four on Michigan. Arizona flipped
to the favorite against Houston. Houston was a slight favorite
minus one when we open Arizona. Now one and a
half on that game and LSU Vanderbilt has been back
and forth, respected people on both sides. That's been tremendous
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two way handle.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I find that really interesting. That was one of the
games that I just didn't get involved in.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm in the Westgate College Football contest. My partner ct
bet said, Hey, I love LSU.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let's add it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This was one of those weeks where we're trying to
find seven that we also had in common heart. We
had three right out of the gate and then the
other four. We're kind of plug and play. Talk to
me about that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Game because this is the first time I think I
saw a tweet.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's like in seventy years, that's the first time Vanderbilt
has been favored over LSU.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, you know, I think people are starting to come
to the party on Vanderbilt and realize that they are
really good and LSU with their signature win early and
season against Clemson doesn't look that great now, you know,
I mean it does, and that listen, they still went
into the you know, the other death Valley in one
at night.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I understand that, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think Vanderbilt being where it is and that game
kind of going back and forth. And it's funny too,
because when it's under the field goal like that, you
see the money line on both sides, they almost take
the points out of it. You know, they'll lay minus
one twenty five, they'll take plus one ten, They'll you know,
kind of play around like that with the money line
when it comes to a game that's that tight spread wise.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right, let's talk about some of these bigger matchups
here today. There's some great games in the SEC, there's
some great games in the Big twelve, and as you mentioned, some.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Of these teams are getting a.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Little bit of love as an underdog and that always
concerns me. I was a little concerned about South Carolina
this morning, seeing that I'll call them. Some of the
square books albeit are very heavy on South Carolina. But
to hear you say you guys have two way action
is very interesting. Let's talk the Ole Miss game, the
Bama Tennessee game. I kind of want to hear some
(05:58):
of your thoughts on BYU or Utah Dyu here.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This one's gonna be an interesting Holy war this year.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, just start with the two SEC games. I mean
Georgia on the opener for six and a half. We
got to seven and a half and that was sharp money.
That took the six and a half once again under
the touchdown. If they feel good about a team, they're
always going to make that bet. Now, once it hits
seven and a half, we saw a flood of Ole
Miss money and have even seen it at seven. So
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we need Georgia in the game. Tennessee and Bama, it's
really been one way traffic. Bama was eight, now up
to nine and a half. I've even seen some tens
out there. We've really yet to rid a Tennessee bet.
So nothing about Alabama money. And the Utah and BYU
game has been one of those that's been going back
and forth. When it's on the low end, they lay Utah,
when it's on the high end, they take BYU. That
(06:49):
has seen pretty significant, you know, two way action. That's
one of those games where we just kind of have
to maybe avoid four and we'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
But that's a game that right and good handle.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, last week, you guys wanted to avoid three with
that Alabama Mazoo game, and of course that's exactly where landing.
That's kind of a difficult spot to be in from
a bookmaker's perspective, but it is going to happen from
time to time, especially when you're getting that two way action.
Let's kind of talk about some of these other games
here that I find really interesting that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Have really flown under the radar. Washington was a six.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I believe in the it was either in your contest
or one of the Splash contests. So I did play
the stale number there. But this is a game I
feel like nobody's talking about.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I think when you look at some of these earlier
nine AM games, which it's in that slot, you know,
LSU Vanderbilt is going to get some more love, even
Oklahoma South Carolina. Now Michigan's they've kind of been a
weird team and they have question marks with their running
back as well, but he'll probably play. Like I said,
we're gonna be rooting for Michigan. I mean, I haven't
seen much Michigan money come in because, like I said,
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you saw the six and the five.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Get bet with Washington.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All right. A couple other games and I think are
flying under the radar for whatever reason. Notre Dame has
gotten just absolutely steamed over the past few days against
the Trojans, I said, I'm not a shock eating weasel.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm bet on it this week, but if I have
to play it, I'm gonna lay it now. I feel
like it's almost too late to lay it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well, yeah, you missed it. I mean, you know, got
up to ten and a half. We're at ten now,
and okay, we were as low as nine. You know,
game of the year line on this was Notre Dame
eleven and a half. So obviously, you know, L's use
power ratings gone up a little bit. Notre Dame's probably
dropped a little bit, but it's kind of settled back
into that ten range.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Okay, cool, anything else worth noting before you give me
your needs and of course your best bet.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean, here's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Wisconsin took Money a plus twenty seven and a half
at home against Ohio State. It's a low total forty
one and a half, so they just figure, hey, let
me take almost the four touchdowns. It should be a
tight game, low scoring game with a total like that.
So I think that's, you know, something to keep of note.
And UNLV hometown team, man.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's been done.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But Boise Money that was ten and a half, it's
now thirteen and a half. I'd be shocked if we
get to fourteen because I think you'll see money with
U and LV at fourteen.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But a three point move to Boise.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That is very interesting there.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I believe Marco D'Angelo gave out the under in that game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Anything else worth note?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Our biggest need of the day, who you're going to
be cheering for the most?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, I mean some of those games.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, Georgia really is a significant need for us
in a game that we didn't touch on because the
quarterback situation, Like everybody piled on SMU this week, of course,
you know, so everybody, and they kept taking the worst number,
the worst number, the worst number, and now we're Clemson four.
I mean, I don't know, That's just one of those
games where it happens that way. I mean, we need
a miracle out of Clemson, obviously, because nobody wants to
(09:54):
take Clemson with their quarterback not playing, so obviously that's
going to be a need for us. But yeah, it's
going to be tough to get there on that one.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Let's talk about quarterback play really quick.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Sounds like Sam Levitt is going to be a go
for the Sun Devils, which is why we saw.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A ton of money flood in that direction.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Are you guys gonna still be cheering for Arizona State
even though with that news people started piling on the
sun Devils.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, they did, they did, And that's a crazy game
in the line year move. That was Arizona State by three,
you know, and now you're looking at now you're looking
at Texas Tech seven seven and a half. So yeah,
obviously when Levitt plays, that's going to help Arizona State.
They looked lost without him. So I think Arizona State
at home catching those points as good as Texas Tech
has been, that's going to be the move.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, that's gonna be the move for me.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That is one that I am going back and forth
on because I put them in my parlay in case
they happen to win. Out Right, I do have a
nice ticket on Texas Tech overwins and of course to
win the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So I'm kind of like, damn it. That's what's hard
about these futures, bet right.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Sometimes they put you in those precarious situations throughout the year.
Give me your best, bet Art, I know you got
to get back behind the counter and in the risk room.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You've got a lot of work to do before kickoff.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, I love to throw weird ones out there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Thank you u.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
El Monroe plus five and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, plus five and a half. It is Art to
Caesar guys at Art Dice.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You guys can catch him on the best betting show
ever with Joe Ranieri. In the press, it's called the
best betting show ever because Art's on it and he's
the best ever. We appreciate him every single Saturday morning
tuning in with all of you, answering any of your
questions in the chat and bringing us those needs from
the behind the counter. Art, thank you so much and
we'll see you next week. Guys, let's bring in VR.
(11:38):
He is here, Yanni the Greek. He's actually not here,
he's in Vancouver for the UFC, So we're gonna bring
him in.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Right now and see what he's got going on.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Every single Wednesday on bet on It, he brings us
the early information and then we decide here on Saturday
morning whether we're gonna codifire it or not. So bottom line,
what did you hear from Art? What did you What
do you agree with? What do you say on.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Your side, I like ul Monroe. I have them circled
as well. I think you just confirmed them for me.
I had already bet Georgia. We're on the Georgia side,
so that was good news. Otherwise, it's pretty much the
same stuff that I've been seeing. A lot of the
you know, we talked about earlier in the week, some
of the games that got dummied up now getting hit later.
(12:20):
As the betting limits get bigger and bigger, we don't
have really the big high profile games. I mean, there's
some decent matchups, but not that that big profile game
that that's getting all the volume that's you know, one
sided or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
So it's a good day for college football.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
This kind of day you could make some good money
because it's spread out, so there's a lot of good
numbers still valuable real quickly. I just got an added
board game. These I only give out to subscribers where
I know we could beat the number, and I only
send them out for like one percent two percent, just
so they could have the information because they do so well.
But I know not everyone could get down. But we
just bet Butler Butler plus three and a half against
(13:01):
Dayton plus three's good there as well. Let me give
you two player props real quickly. Also that we bet these.
I don't release the subscribers just because the lines move
quickly and I know not everybody's gonna be able to
get down. Georgia running back Nate Fraser, Georgia's running back
Nate Fraser went under forty and a half rushing yards.
(13:22):
That's under forty and a half rushing yards. And then
Vanderbilt's running back Cedric Alexander also under forty seven and
a half. So that's Cedric Alexander for Vandy under forty
seven and a half rushing yards, Nate Fraser for Georgia
under forty and a half rushing yards.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
If they're still available, These props really do.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, but again it's hard getting that money down at
those numbers. So anything else to let me know what
you want. I got so much information, Kel, there's so
much going on today.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's yeah, let's see what we got here going on
in the chat. We got Teddy Covers coming up here
in a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Then of course we've.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Got Kyle Anthony see so heyvyr Georgia tech versus Duke
A stay away ranked row team is the dog. So
we kind of talked about this with Art just a
minute ago and what got dummied up? And you told
me on Wednesday Georgia Tech was kind of that spot.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, what are we doing with this game?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I got a winner for you. You go under, you
go under, you go under for the full game, okay,
and then you go and you also go under Georgia
Tech team total first half, So we're going under Georgia
Tech first half team total under fourteen and then we're
going under sixty one Georgia Tech Duke full game. You're
(14:42):
good there, Okay, under go under in that game. And
it's if you see that total move a little up,
don't let.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It scare you.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
It's so one sided public money that they're trying to
limit their risk by getting guys like me to come
in and bet that under. They know we like the
under at sixty one. They're giving us sixty one. Sixty
one and a half's out there because of.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
All the over money.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
This is an early game and there's a lot of
risk already tied into that over with later stuff, so
any line movement up, they're just trying to get some
under money, and we oblige them by going under Georgia
tech Duke.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
All Right, just a couple of questions in the chat
that I want to answer because there are games that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
We haven't touched on, and I feel we haven't touched
on them at all.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Texas A and M at Arkansas Arkansas Fires are coached
two weeks ago and things look to be on the mend.
I've been betting against A and M all season long, Like,
let's just be real, I'm done stepping in front of
A and M at least not with this Arkansas team.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
This that what sticks out here is the betting line
because I'm seeing I haven't seen wise guy money on
this game except on the under. They steamed the under
at sixty and a half and sixty, and that's opposite
what the public's doing. So if you want one of
those sharps on one side, public on the other, go
with the under.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
But also on the.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Side, it's a lot of one sided action, kell on
the dog. So they're taking Arkansas plus the seven and
a half. That's what sticks out to me. Why isn't
this one at seven? We haven't seen the wise guys
come in and attack the side on this game. And
I'm telling you from looking at the back end, and
(16:23):
I don't think that the books you know here in Vegas,
back in Vegas will have any different. It's a lot
of Arkansas money, Like you just touched on Texas A
and M. No confidence in them. And now not only
are they a touchdown, but they're above a touchdown, so
they now got it by two scores to cover that game.
There's a lot of love on this two and four
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Arkansas team.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
They play a lot better at home than on the road.
They're own three on the road too, and one at
host that's a real strong home field advantage. And Texas
A and M has outperformed the betting market, winning five
six straight games and more importantly, covering three of their
last or But something doesn't sit right because Arkansas played
a really good game against Tennessee but didn't get there.
(17:07):
They lost by a field goal. I have a feeling
this one might turn into more of look like the
Notre Dame the.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Week prior where they got blown out like that, Remember
what happened?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They played a tough game against Memphis, lost by one,
then got blown out. Now they played another tough game.
I think they're that kind of team. They're at home,
but they were at home against Notre Dame as well.
I think they end up getting blown out here by
Texas saying them Mike one, I don't think Arkansas puts
up a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay, that's fair. A couple other questions here.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Another game that we barely touched on, but Art did
say that there were some sharp sides taking the plus
money with Wisconsin because of the low total. David here
in the chat wants to know Ohio State or Wisconsin
that is a lot of points. Br you talked about
on bat on it power ratings. Where do you guys
have Ohio State power rated and should they be?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Basically, what are we talking here?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Four touchdown favorites over I mean, I don't have my
odds logic screen up.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I apologize high.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
It's now down to twenty five, a little bit too high.
Ohio State's the best team in the country. They were
number one when the season started. They're still number one.
Now they're about four or five points better than the
number two team, so their gap is widening. It was
only like a field goal maybe two weeks ago. Now
(18:29):
it's starting to wide. Guess who's number two right behind them?
It was Alabama.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's not Miami, It ain't Miami.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
It's no to Dame. No, the guy that I trust most.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Has Notre Dame as his second higher highest power rated team,
followed by Alabama, Oregon, Georgia, Texas.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Believe it or not?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
All right, let's see, we got a couple more minutes
here with VR four.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We let him go.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Anything you want to share in regards to UFC Vancouver,
I know we have Kyleie Anthony coming on to take
some of those questions, but that is why you are
in Vancouver. So any insight, anything you're hearing rumblings of
that our audiences know about.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
First fight of the night, Melissa Croden. It's her first
fight in the UFC. She's Canadian, Okay, She's a big, big,
strong girl, and pre UFC she had already been tested
three fights in the LFA one two of those. All
her wins are by finish. The only losses she has
is by decision. But more importantly, pre UFC her she
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hadn't fought a single opponent with a losing record. Usually,
like I see on the Contender series, they come in
they're not really tested you know they're they're fighting oh
and no opponents, ohero and five opponents, Like they're just
getting some wins as pros. That's not the case with
this girl because of being such a high prospect at
one twenty five.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I was shocked. I was shocked.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
She should be at least like a minus one six.
He won seventy favorite. I like crowding a lot a
lock on the card, but it's minus three hundred, Like
if someone said, give me one lock on the card,
it's azamat Bekov. He's not losing this fight, bel Guru.
He's he's like a duck kickboxer, a good kickboxer. This
kid's gonna destroy him like that. That's the one that
(20:19):
that should be like a minus six hundred fight. Honestly,
the fact that it's minus three hundred, to me, it's
a steal at minus three hundred. Ooh even money for you? Uh,
Kyle Nelson over for Matt For Bola, I'm a fan
of for Bola.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I like for Bola.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Not a good matchup for him, and he got he
looked really really drained for the weigh in, and then
even after the weigh in, seeing them like rehydrating and
just didn't look all that great, and I'd already like
Nelson at even money.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
I think that's a steal.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
And then comene Evet Mike Malott the Canadian Kevin Holland's
gonna get some love like he always does. But I
think it's the wrong side being able to get Malot
at minus one ten. I thinks another steal should be
at least the minus one fifty wins this fight six
out of ten times, So let's go with Malot, Nelson,
Becoev and Crowden.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
All right, you guys got your UFC fix.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
If you have any more questions about UFC, you have
to wait till the end of the show when Kyle
pops on, I'm done bothering VR on this beautiful Saturday morning.
He's gonna be back tomorrow morning with Harry l Epstein
before he flies back to Las Vegas. So shout out
to VR, the hardest working man here in sports these days.
Love to see it. Thank you so much for coming
on at Greek underscore gambler Mikes. You guys are giving
(21:36):
him a follow on the social channels. We're gonna bring
in Teddy Covers to answer all these other college football questions.
Because there's a ton in the chat. We're gonna start
off right out of the gate. Good morning, Teddy. Thank
you for being here, bright and early there on the
West Coast at Teddy Underscore covers on social media. Teddy
and I do the opening line report on Monday mornings
for the NFL. If you guys have not got a
(21:57):
chance to check that out, you are missing out on pertinent,
life changing, well maybe not life changing, but very good information.
He has helped my NFL handicapping immensely this year and
my every NFL game, Teddy, I'm in the contest. Then
we have to pick every single NFL game every single week,
and I've done it for years my buddy Stephen, and it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Frustrates me because I would never do this.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Of course, this year we are tied in third place
fifty six and thirty eight on the season, and I
attribute a lot of that to the early information from Teddy,
and probably if I stopped playing garbage teams like the
Titans plus six would also help me out. But we're
going to talk college football today with Teddy. We got
some questions here. We're gonna start off with one game
that we haven't touched on at all. I think there's
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been some really nice marquee games, Teddy, and then there's
like that just second tier right below, like one A
is Old miss one B is Alabama, and then no
one's talking about Mazoo flipping to the favorite here at Auburn.
Do you have an opinion here or any information that
maybe you think are audience is no prior to betting
this game.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
So it's a pickham game in my mind. It really is.
So when you talk about a favorites flipping, you know,
the points spread inside of a field goal. It's not
a game where I had a strong opinion and I worry.
So I worry about Missouri finding that same energy that
they had last week against Alabama, you know, a game
where they kind of left it all on the field.
(23:22):
That being said, I think Missouri is a better team,
you know. So it's not a game that I'm close
to betting. Well, haven't been close all week. It would
take it would take a three year higher for me
to get to a seriously consider either side, and that
would only be fading this team, all.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, fading this team. I kind of don't blame you there.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
This is just not one of those spots where I
loved either side. As you mentioned, it's a pickham game.
All right, let's teddy how much?
Speaker 6 (23:48):
How much do you do with totals in knowledgeable Not
much but some.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Okay, I'm very picky with my totals in college football,
and that has led to very good results with my
totals in college football. But I don't play a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I like that, all right, because a lot of guys
are asking Andrew and the question asking two totals this morning,
Ucla Maryland fifty two and a half, Cincinnati Oklahoma State
fifty seven and a half. If you have any information
or any opinion, maybe why you didn't play either one
of these.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
So I mean, Ucla totals wise, is a hard team
for me to play right now. You know the Bruins.
We've seen the offense come to life the last two
games we really have against and if we see the
same level of production they had against Penn State Michigan State,
this game will fly over the total. All right. If
we're talking modern you see, you know, the Tim Skipper
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version of the Bruins, there's certainly that potential for points
in bunches. That said, I watched enough of Ucla the
first five weeks of the season that I don't I
don't know that this isn't necessarily something that's going to continue.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And let's real quick, let's touch on the side than Teddy,
because this is a Maryland team. I cannot quit. I
cannot quit the terms, even though they break my heart
on the money line every single week. The cover's been
virtually not in doubt when they've been an underdog. This
one opened three and a half, now two and a half.
I took the three and a half early. I took
it in a lot of my sale lines in my contests.
(25:20):
But I'm kind of wondering if maybe UCLA didn't turn
a corner there right there becomes pinnacle spots in the season, right,
they fire their coach, they get back to back underdog wins.
Maryland now loses two heartbreakers in a row. Maybe I
should have quit the terps prior to this week, man.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
And certainly, when you're talking about traveling across the country,
all right, I need if I need a reason, a
specific reason why I want the team that's traveling twenty
five hundred miles for their game. You know, if they're
not the if you look at the basic ats results,
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just all teams traveling ease and all teams shelving west.
It's less than forty percent ats in the Big Ten,
you know, I mean it's been the travel spots. If
you're just playing the home team, you're doing fine. You're
making money, You're making consistent money. So you need a
rationale to play that road team. And Maryland's a team,
you right, They've been snatching victory from the defeat from
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the jaws of victory each of the last two ball games. Obviously,
when you have a twenty to nothing leading, as Washington
blow that and then last week kind of this it
wasn't as big a lead, but a comparable result against Nebraska,
which looks even worse after what Nebraska did last night
in Minnesota. I don't trust the terms, so I guess
it's you know, Ucla might be a team to ride here.
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And if you're playing Ucla, maybe look at the overuse.
Maryland's Maryland's an over team, Okay, Malik, Washington wants to
throw the football around. Their defense is not great, The
red zone defense isn't great. And when you have a
pass heavy team who doesn't have a great defense, I
have no arguments playing overs in their ball game. So
I guess I kind of talked myself into the over
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lean to the over lean to UCLA in that one.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
All right, So maybe that question was kind of correct.
Maybe that is a good spot there. All right, let's
see what we got for other questions here in the
chat Teddy it.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Was kelch just real quick. That was the second game
you asked me about.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Saty Oklahoma State.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
So Oklahoma State is fair. You know, Oklahoma State can't
stop anyone, all right, they can't. That's that's as as
weak a power for conference defense and you're gonna find
so I would leave. I think if if Cincinnati stays focused,
they can score on every possession against that defense, for
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whatever that's worth. But that's if Cincinnati played five. I thought,
since we're gonna have a high scoring game last weeknd's
UCF and that game finished twenty to eleven. H So
you know, the over and never sniffed an over in
that contest. So I was dead wrong. That being said that,
you know, colleg football has been pretty good. I'm not mad.
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I'm mad when I have a loser, but I can
handle having a wrong side loser on a day where
I have more right size or a weekend you have
more right size and bos.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What do you got going on over at wager Talk
in terms of college football for today?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Three? Only three good ones? I think you know we've
been we've been in an action all week put I mean
that's I usually run on a call on a Saturdays.
You know, between three and five plays as standards, Sometimes
you get six or seven, sometimes only find one or two.
But we got three going a college football run what
fourteen and six the last four weeks seventy percent? Uh
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Speaker 2 (29:02):
Teddy, give me a college football game that narrowly missed
your card, maybe you would have put up as a
free play, or maybe it's one that you talked about
on Widgter Talk today or one of the other shows
that you were on.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
So we talked about UNLV Boise a little bit. I
heard you guys talking about that game or earlier on
and I've seen so the Rebels are a team that
I think is an undervalued commodity. All right, UNLV. Their
statistical profile is not pretty, and they've won multiple games
this year that are lucky, lucky, lucky. We talked about
the Miami O game and people are going back to
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Week one, and I look at UNLV as a pretty
good team, a team that lost to Boise in the
Mountain West Championship game last year. The office didn't really
work in that game. So you want to talk about
a little bit of extra motivation, you know it's there
for the Rebels. Last week they didn't cover. There's no
betting bandwagon. The wise guys hate UNLV. The money's been
(29:56):
pouring in against them. If I'm playing, I'm taking the
dog in that one. UNLV correlates with over. I'm not
convinced they're gonna shut down Boise, but I would not
be surprised at all if they trade points with them
all taking long. So rebels were on my short list.
Didn't pull the trigger, but certainly in their.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Direct All right, rebels on your short list, Let's look
at my short list. Let's see what we got left
here that we haven't really doven in deep to there's
a game. I feel like nobody's talking about Indiana with
a huge upset last week at Oregon, and now nobody's
talking about them. They just gave Kirk Signetti a truck
bed full of money. What are your thoughts here on
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this Big ten matchup?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Here's my thought. Never bet on the team the week
after the coach just got paid.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Why coaches could?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
What's coach what Signetti doing this week? Sure he's focused,
he's focused, But I just got paid, Bro, you know
what I mean? And so and I talked about this
on WAYD. You talked today yesterday. All right, Kirk Signetti
will be fired before his contract ends. Just leave it
into dead.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Wait, okay, you can't say hon takes like that and
not have a follow up. Please please elaborate as to
why you think Kirk Signetti is gonna get fired.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
They will pay his buyout before Okay, Indiana is having
an impressive run. All Right, last year was great. They
snuck up on everyone. This year. He brought in a
bunch of big name recruits and they're beating the crap
out of people. All Right? Can he do that in
Bloomington the same way into his seventies or are they
gonna start getting frustrated too? You know? So look what
(31:37):
happened with James Franklin at Penn State?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
All right, well, what's.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Happening with my kse wildcouts Teddy?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We're we're nobody team, and I am livid that we're
not gonna win ten games this year because the expectation
level that was set previous to the season. When you
get fans an expectation level, you will get fired in
a James Franklin position. James Franklin was expected to go
back deep into the college Football Playoff and fight for
a national championship. And losing that game at UCLA and
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then turning around and losing the Northwestern was inconceivable, and
I agree with it. Everybody thinks I'm crazy as a
k State fan because their answer is who are you
gonna get that's better? And I think Penn State is
now finding out.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Penn State will wish for James Franklin. I know, Okay, Signetti,
who's who I agree with the concept of stay, Hey,
sign the fat contract here. They love me and I
can win eight, nine, ten games here and some expectations.
You're gonna have to Hey, you have to be you
have to win the national championship every year. We're gonna
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fire you, you know, or play for it. I mean
that's the Penn State. Like, Okay, loo did did.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You guys really think that Nick Saban and everything that
he worked so hard for he was just going he
wanted to leave because he saw the riding on the
wall with Nil and the transfer portal and everything else.
Like you're you're get I'm gonna get a Bill Snyder
once in my lifetime. You're gonna get a Nick Saban
once in your lifetime. Like as as fans have to
take a step back and realize what the reality is
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in the changing of college football.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
And note we just talk at frank how can they
sign these guys to ten year contracts? You know because
five to who knows we're gonna play And Signetty just
signed a nine year contract. You can't give those kind
of contracts. And yet but he want to do this
kind of contract because's where it takes to keep the guy,
so you end up with bad contracts later on, just
like free agency. You know, it's like NBA free agency
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in particular, where you get all these guys who are
making you know, twenty million dollars a year or thirty
million dollars a year, and the last guy in the
bench and you trade him as an expiring contract for
some boto feed rule takes them.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
All right, Well, let's go to a couple more questions
before we get to Kyle Anthony.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
We went on a little tangent.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
This is kind of like the opening line report, except
I don't get it follow up with Teddy because we
got to hit every single game like Teddy and I
could do a two hour opening line report if available,
because we have so so many follow ups. All right, Kelly,
you talk about Florida every week. How you feel about
the Gators this week? Andrew did not see my parlay.
I am all over Mississippi State. There's an interesting game, Teddy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I live.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
My dad lives right outside of Gainsville, of three and
a half hours south of Gainesville.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You get all these little rumblings, right, Billy Napier is
gonna get fired this weekend, win or lose is what
I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Okay, disclosure you.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Time about coaches getting paid, what about coaches that are
seats are literally on fire?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Again, it comes down to expectations. The expectations of Florida
are very very high, yes, right, And in a conference
like the Big Ten or like the where the Mississippi
States of the world, you know, and the Indianas of
the world are, there's pressure there, there's urgency there, you know,
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where it's it's very difficult to stay on top. And
it's very difficult if you're not the top team, as
you know, one of the next four or five. Michigan's
finding that out now, you know. It's a whole different world.
And when you're talking about eighteen team conferences, In sixteen
team conferences, only one team's gonna win, all right, So
(35:15):
there's a conference title that's not being given out, you know.
So I'm so any of the So certainly I don't
want to lay with Florida today. I'd rather take the
Gators away from home than that home right now, because
if things go south, the crowd is not amused in
the swap. That being said, I bet against Mississippi State
(35:36):
in their last game against A and M and cast
that one with room to spare, and I wouldn't be
surprised they have another craft game on the road here.
They're not at Florida's level and the Gators a game
will destroy Missippi State.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, if listen, if Florida comes to play like they
did when the jersey said taxes across the front of it, absolutely,
but I took them again versus A and M, and
that offense just isn't good. The defense to play, but
when they are gassed by the fourth quarter, there's only
so much you could do. I've been less than impressed
with DJ Lagway. I mean, even when he's not throwing
(36:09):
five interceptions against LSU, like, there's just there's just been
an expectation that, hey, he's gonna take a big step
forward and it did not happen for the Gators.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Let's get one more question here from Teddy.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Uh. Let's go okay here, this is the game ever
we want to talk about because it' kicking off here soon.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Oklahoma, South Carolina. I'm all over the dog.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Marco gave off the dog because Oklahoma's coming off that
Texas lost. They're zero and three there with Brent Vintables
after playing Texas. South Carolina has been so frustrating to
me last week. I took him versus LSU this week,
As I said, there wasn't a lot of dogs that
I liked. So I was like, all right, Marco, I'll bite.
We're gonna go one more time here with the game
(36:51):
Cocks at home. This is a winnable game in a
gauntlet of a stretch of their schedule.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well, it makes Oklahoma win. I mean Oklahoma was really good.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
John my tears not that healthy.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I think we saw that last week versus Texas, coming
off that thumb surgery.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I thought they rushed him out there a little bit
too early.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Look, there was arguments right after Week one that maybe
Leonora Sellers could be in the Heisman race, and then
those quickly dwindled.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But I do think they have a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I think they have a great special teams, and that
special teams and defense always seems to be good for
not only a turnover but possibly a score.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I don't disagree with that. I just think Oklahoma is
a better team, and I think they're the better team
by more than a few points. You know, South Carolina
is not a team that I'm particularly high on this year.
They certainly haven't done a whole lot to be particularly
excited about them. Sellers has banged and banged up as
well this season. He's not at one hundred percent and
hasn't been one hundred percent. Now. If Matier plays the
game he played last weekend Tech, I think get Texas's
(37:48):
defense at a different level. True, all right, but if
the tier plays that game, Oklahoma's not winning, they're not covering.
I haven't bet Oklahoma, but I would certainly lean in
that direction. I think that they should be able to
control the trenches on both sides of the football in
this game. And if you control the line of scrimmage,
you can lay four on the road.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
All right, guys, this is Teddy Covers. I will see
him again bright and early Monday morning. For the opening
line report. We give you all of the information you
need to get ready for the NFL week.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
We kind of touch on what happened.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The week prior when we should not be overreacting, or hey,
we got some of those.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Emergency batting alerts.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I always like to bring crops to the show, guys,
so we will see you Monday, eleven thirty excuse me,
eleven am Eastern, eight am Pacific at Teddy Anderscore Covers.
Give Teddy a Fall. You can also watch the rewatch
of the show right here on the Wager YouTube channel.
If you guys have a u FC question, dropping in
the chat because we're gonna bring in Kyle Anthony here
in one minute. Some of the guys saying, hey, where
(38:50):
can I catch your socials? Right there at Kelly and Vegas, guys,
so you can see all of my parlays. They are
going to be ooh, South Carolina money line. Interesting, we'll see.
I'm a little nervous. But Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, it's all
over the place. Can't miss it, don't you guys worry.
We're gonna see what we got here. Use your computer's notes.
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Everybody's over here sharing note ideas. I'm old school piece
of paper every single week and then I trash it.
Hopefully got to cash it. That's what VR likes to say.
Kyle Anthony coming in for UFC Vancouver. We're gonna take
you guys up until kickoff or when the question stop.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Kyle we're gonna get to.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Your two games or your two games, your two fights.
Excuse me, my brain is in college football mode. But first,
I kind of wanted to talk about some of the
ones that VR mentioned because I love when you guys agree.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That's kind of a fun thing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
He threw out some big favorites, and you do a
hero parlay every week. Sometimes some big favorites sometimes sprinkle
some money line underdogs. You hit that last week correct
eighteen to one. You're welcome, it's because I didn't bet it.
Talk to me about the hero parlay. Then I'm gonna
bring up I'm sure you didn't hear all of them,
and I'm not going to be able to pronounce these
(40:03):
people's last names, but I'm curious to hear if maybe
the three guys or gals two guys in one gal
that VR gave us are also on your radar.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
What was the one that he gave He gave now
Kyle Nelson, Well, Kyle Nelson was one. Well, Kyle Nelson
was one. I actually don't agree with him on that.
I actually do like for Vola there and there's a
lot of reasons, to be honest, but one of the
biggest reasons is that I think that Kyle Nelson is
extremely extremely hittrble. I do think the wrestling will be
(40:38):
there for for Bola. I think the Tate downs will
be there. I think he's got the power to do it.
And I think that Kyle Nelson has kind of really
kind of has outperformed his number over the last few fights.
He got knocked out recently, so I think this is
a great bounce back spot here for Matta Bowl and
be honest, Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Cool, All right, guys, we got almost forty five of
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on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Kyle, one of the gate.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
One of the I'm gonna do it again, one of
the bights that you and.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
N VR both agree on.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Mike Malott versus Kevin Holland Mike Malott minus one ten
coin flip fight here. I have to get involved. Both
of you guys are giving this one on. I gotta
get involved now.
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Yeah, So in this one here, like you said, Mike
a lot, it's a pick um price tag here, and
you've got Kevin Holland, who is a rangy striker, very
good at utilizing his reach, has good boxing, does have
some power there. And one of the things that he
does well also is if you stick out your neck
or leave a limout. He's very good at opportunistic submission game.
He's gonna go out there, look for these takedowns, look
(41:42):
for the opportunity.
Speaker 9 (41:43):
Where the hell did I go?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I know, I this is why I That's where I
screwed it up because I was trying to do something else.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And now Kyle's off the screen.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I'm just gonna let Louis we go, we go it.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Uh but uh but yeah, you know, Holland has a
lot of great things that he does on the feet.
The biggest issue for him in this fight is a
going to be the fact that Holland has terrible takedown defense.
Now again, he has some submission game, but terrible takedown defense.
And not only just that, but he's facing a lot
who is a wrestler, who is a grappler, and there's
opportunities there, but he can be taken down. But also
(42:15):
the fact that a lot of the situation where Holland
just gets.
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Stuck on his back.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
He's a guy that you know, he's gonna throw up
very low percentage submissions off of his back. He can
be taken down, he can be kept there, and that's
really right into maloc game, and malt is a guy
that's going to take the path at least resistance here.
I think the takedowns will be there. I think that
if he wants to get the takedown it's there. Then
once he's down, I think he can bank the round.
(42:40):
I think that he can keep the round, look for
submission ability, to look to finish that fight. And I
also don't think that there's anything that really Holland can
do to really defend that. And obviously one of the biggest,
probably the biggest downside on Mallet because there, you know,
there is one, and it is a little bit to
vulnerability and cardio. Now, a couple of fights ago, we
fought Neil in a fight where Malat was winning the
(43:02):
first two rounds. He gassed out and got knocked out
with ten seconds left. It wasn't the greatest look for him.
He's bounced back with a couple wins. But the difference
here between Neil Magni and Kevin Holland is the fact
that they don't fight the same you know, Neil Magni
weaponizes his cardio, he comes forward, he keeps opponents working.
He's trying to really drain on you to get that
finish in that later round. That's not Kevin Holland's game.
(43:23):
Kevin Holland is very low paced. He lacks the days
of coal with his offense. You know, he's a guy
that's not really going to really be pushing any type
of pace at all. And you've also gotten the fact
that Holland is incredibly inconsistent. He's a guy that has
said even in interviews, he doesn't want to fight high
level guys.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
He doesn't want to fight for a title. He just
wants to.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
Fight for money and fight these middling fighters and some
fighters that maybe are looking to be on the rise,
like malat Is, And that's kind of it, and that's
not something you want to hear from someone you're backing here.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
So I think that malat.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
Can dictate the pace, get the takedowns, you know, bank rounds,
and I think this submission is absolutely live here. But
I think, you know, this line has, you know, come
in here, because people do. I think br said it,
you know, they people just like love Kevin Holland. You
know he's he's a character, but I think this is
a great spot from a lot in Canada, in home soil,
so I think he gets the job done here.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
As somebody who knows very minimal about the UFC, when
I recognize one name and see that they're at a
pick'em coin, flip course, I do recognize Kevin Holland I
love to Oh yeah, everybody loves when I pronounced the
fighters' names and just completely Butcher hockey would also be hard,
just like your last name, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I'm not even going to try.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
All right, there is one that I can Ranier de
Ritter versus Brendan Allen.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Talk to me about this fight, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
And then also before you get into it, let everybody
know what you've got up for UFC Vancouver over at wager.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Talk dot com.
Speaker 9 (44:47):
Yeah, so right now, I've got six plays up. I
have a big slate, a lot of plays that I
do like.
Speaker 8 (44:52):
I have a five percent max bet play, which actually
is at plus money. I love the spot there. I've
always got plus money in my packs. This is another
great spot here. We're hitting at seventy five percent clip
on these five percent plays, So love the.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
Spot and Uh, you know we're gonna get the get
the job done today.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
All right, let's get into this second fight and who
you like to go to the distance.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
Yeah, So we have Rainder de Ridder here, he's minus
two ten and the comeback. We've got Brendan Allen. He's
sitting around plus one seventy. Now you've got Rander de
Rider here. He's a former dision two division champion over
at one FC. Since he's come over, he's really looked great.
You know, he's on a four to zero run. He'd
just be former champion Robert Whitaker in a great fight.
And that fight really answered a lot of questions where
(45:39):
you know, we were really sure, you know, is he
at the ability, is he at this height? Is he
able to really fight at this level?
Speaker 7 (45:45):
And he was.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
You know, he went through some adversity, got dropped early
and was able to really push through and was able
to really find a lot of success there. He showed
that you know, he does have cardio, you know, he
does have durability, and he is tough. Now, one of
the biggest advantages here, I think for are is going
to be the fact that he is massive for this division.
Speaker 9 (46:04):
He's huge you know, he's the.
Speaker 8 (46:05):
Guy that really utilizes that and bullies people, you know, leverages,
his size, is able to lean on his opponents, look
for those takedowns, you know, get the get top control,
push him up against the fence, and he's able to
really utilize that heavy forward pressure. And that's just going
to be something that again he squeezes down to this division,
he's gonna you know, when he rehydrates, he gets massive,
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and he's gonna have that strength and physicality advantage here
that I think he can really start to really utilize
that throughout this fight. Now, Allen is a well rounded fighter,
there's no doubt, but he has a lot of flaws,
and one of his biggest flaw is really fact he's
got terrible cardio and this is that's a terrible thing
for him coming into this matchup here. Where yes, early
he can have some nice you know, combinations, he has
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some nice wrestling exchanges, he can mix it up, but
really outside of like the first eight nine minutes, he
can start to slow down in the fight. And this
these are in three round fights. This is now going
to be a five round fight. And the biggest issue
here in one of the big red flags is the
fact that this is short notice for Brendan Allen as well.
So for a guy that already has suspect cardio, you know,
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durability can be a little bit iffy. You know, this
is a tough spot for him to really come And
I talked about it a little bit last week.
Speaker 9 (47:13):
We did hit on our four percent on Charles Olavera.
Speaker 8 (47:15):
A big reason why I liked him at Pickham was
the fact that Gamrack's coming in on short notice of
like two weeks, five round fight and they were shipping
him to Brazil.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
A lot of moving parts.
Speaker 8 (47:24):
There for a guy that he won't be in optimal.
Speaker 9 (47:26):
Peak physical condition.
Speaker 8 (47:28):
Now Rainer on the other side here that I just
think everything that he does can really nullify what Allan
does well. And you're talking about takedowns, you're come out wrestling.
I don't think that really materializes here for RDR. I
think he's able to kind of, you know, dictate the pace.
He's the one that's going to be able to defensive
brestle and then offensive brestle and get his takedowns here.
He's very unorthodox, He's very awkward in his movements, very
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tough to prepare for. And I think he's able to
muscle takedowns, get top control, and I think he finds
a finish here. I think that again, the fact that
this is on short notice, I think highly favors RDR.
And that's where I think that he's gonna he's gonna
drain him. He's gonna be able to melt him as
this fight goes on. So you have a RDAR he's
minus around the minus two ten mark. You can get
him inside the distance around plus one ten. I think
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that is really a fantastic number. I think it's a
great number, and I think he gets the job done
inside those five rounds.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
All Right, We've got to take a couple of questions
from the chat before we get out of here. This
one's interesting. Uh Ma, Lot knockout in the second. Okay,
so you like malt VR likes me Lot. Is there
any of these I would call the exotics if you
will knockout to win bye decision, things like that. Are
there anything else that you like in this fight, particularly
(48:39):
how malt may win it?
Speaker 8 (48:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think inside the distance is extremely
live here, and I think especially the fact that the
home crowd we Lot's a guy that really likes to
fight in front of his home crowd.
Speaker 9 (48:50):
He's always fighting there.
Speaker 8 (48:50):
I think that does push these guys, you know, whether
in Brazil, whether it's going to push the home crowd,
they're gonna be backing you.
Speaker 9 (48:56):
They love Mike Malott here.
Speaker 8 (48:58):
So I lean more towards in the distance because I
think that that if you're going to go a path,
get a little bit more, but take both methods here
because if the fight goes to the ground, a lot
absolutely has a chance to submit Holland he has such
a grappling disadvantage that it could be there, and I
don't really unless it's a ground and pounds, but I
don't really see him wanting to stand and strike with
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Holland because of the eight inch reach advantage. He's much larger.
He's going to utilize that. So I think the takedowns
is where it's at. Yes, it could be the knockout,
but I think inside the distance, taking both methods is
probably the a little bit of the safer route there.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
All right, we got about ten minutes until kickoff.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I don't see any more questions in the chat, But Kyle,
anything else you'd like to leave our audience with.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
Mike could quickly give out Charles Jordayne versus Davy Grant.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Here.
Speaker 8 (49:45):
Now you've got Charles Jordain, he's minus one seventy. Davey
Grant's about plus one thirty. And you know, this one here,
I think is actually a great fight for another hometown
guy in Jordaane here. And you know you've got Jordayanne,
who is high risk, high reward kind of guy. He's
going to do a lot of spinning shit, He's gonna
jump around. You know, his nickname is Air Jordaine. He
really kind of sticks with the flashy stuff that he
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does do. But you've got Grant thirty nine years old,
ten years older than Jordaine, and yes he's got some victories,
but they're against very low level opposition. And where I'm
going with this is, I like Jordaine double chance, which
is going to be submission or by points, which is
sitting around plus one oh five. And I think that's
a great spot here because the last time that charge
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Jordaine had a knockout was back in twenty twenty one.
The last five wins for Jordayne were submissioned or by decision.
And also you've got to add in that out of
Grant's seven losses, he's never been knocked out, So it
really pins you to two really methods that you know,
Jordain not really the finisher of the knockout side. I
(50:48):
think that the submission can definitely materialize, but I think
he pitter patter shots works on the outside and just
dominates over three rounds. So plus one plus one oh
five I think is a nice spot.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
All right, And when the hero parlay be out for today.
Speaker 8 (51:02):
I will be probably in the next twenty thirty minutes
check out again. Like you said, Kelly, we hit on
eighteen to one is a nice spot there.
Speaker 9 (51:10):
Now wait, here's here's a question.
Speaker 7 (51:11):
Though.
Speaker 9 (51:11):
The big question is are you betting it?
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (51:14):
All right, exactly listen. Every once in a while I'll
catch it. I really should pay more attention to once
some of these guys are on, especially if it's a
fun card and I know I'm going to be out
watching college football and the UFC card is going to.
Speaker 9 (51:25):
Be on right right.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
No, just I will.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Not bet it today, but you guys can get it
out on social media at Kyle Anthony UFC. Good luck
to you, Kyle, good luck. I already did bet a lot,
so just everybody.
Speaker 9 (51:39):
All right, all right, oh boring.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
You can blame me in the comment session. Thank you
Kyle for coming on. When we see you next Saturday,
is there. I don't have the UFC schedule for Mere.
Speaker 9 (51:49):
Yeah, big, big, big, big card next week.
Speaker 8 (51:52):
Two title fights Tom aspinall defending the heavyweight title Versyril Gone.
It's actually going to be starting at New So when
we come on here, it's just gonna be kicking off.
Speaker 9 (52:03):
It would be a good time to kind of discuss everything.
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Talk, has him going viral and that is because he's
been red hot here in the NFL. I'm gonna bring
Art onto the stage. See what he's doing here this morning.
Good morning Art. I know it's bright and early there
on the West Coast, so always appreciate you hanging out
with us. Let's just get right into this week's college
football card.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, let's start with the early stuff. And there's a
lot of early action that we've seen on these nine
AM Vegas kickoff times. Oklahoma, South Carolina. It's actually been
sharp on both sides. We've seen him lay Oklahoma as
low as four, take South Carolina as high as five
and a half.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Pretty good two way on that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yukon at bc BC was a one and a half
point favorite on the opener. Yukon has taken money. Yukon
now one point favorite in that game. This is a
game I remember talking about earlier in the week, and
it feels like he got faked down and that happens sometimes.
They took Georgia Tech. Early in the week at plus three,
we saw Duke as low.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
As one and a half.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We got up to Duke three and a half this morning,
and then there was a bite back on the three
and a half, so we're back to the original number,
Duke minus three.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I want to interject on that game because here's my thing.
A lot of people are texting me back and forth,
and I'm like, well, we know what got dummied up
because VR told me on bet on It about this game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But here's the real reality.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They didn't. Can you kind of let's let me back
it up for everybody who doesn't understand what's going on.
Can you kind of explained what the process is there
and what they did and how they set up that game?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Absolutely, I mean think about it earlier in the week,
right Sunday, when we open the lines Monday morning, lower limits,
but it doesn't mean things can't be moved. So if
you see money and it gets moved and the market
starts moving that way, absolutely you're gonna go with it.
And then obviously as we get closer to game time,
the limits increase and then they get the side they want.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It happens all the time. So does it always work.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, But it looks like Duke is the preferred side here,
So I think that is evident on what has happened
with that, you know, kind of fake movement early on
in the week and.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
US shooting up to his highest three and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Now, people are gonna buy all football numbers when they're
three and sevens.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
They're always going to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They see it three and a half, they're gonna take it,
especially if they laid one and a half with Duke.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They're looking for a middle.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So happens a lot, Okay, So the move was to
pump fake Georgia Tech so that they could come back
on the other side with Duke.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Duke.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Interesting that ranked versus unranked getting points, same thing we've
seen in a couple other games this year that actually
hasn't worked out in their favor.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So a very interesting line move there.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Go ahead and tell me what else we've got here
for this early morning slate.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, early morning Washington took money at Michigan plus six
plus five as low as four on Michigan. Arizona flipped
to the favorite against Houston. Houston was a slight favorite
minus one when we open Arizona. Now one and a
half on that game and LSU Vanderbilt has been back
and forth, respected people on both sides. That's been tremendous
(04:14):
two way handle.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I find that really interesting. That was one of the
games that I just didn't get involved in.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm in the Westgate College Football contest. My partner ct
bet said, Hey, I love LSU.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let's add it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This was one of those weeks where we're trying to
find seven that we also had in common heart. We
had three right out of the gate and then the
other four. We're kind of plug and play. Talk to
me about that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Game because this is the first time I think I
saw a tweet.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's like in seventy years, that's the first time Vanderbilt
has been favored over LSU.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, you know, I think people are starting to come
to the party on Vanderbilt and realize that they are
really good and LSU with their signature win early and
season against Clemson doesn't look that great now, you know,
I mean it does, and that listen, they still went
into the you know, the other death Valley in one
at night.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I understand that, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think Vanderbilt being where it is and that game
kind of going back and forth. And it's funny too,
because when it's under the field goal like that, you
see the money line on both sides, they almost take
the points out of it. You know, they'll lay minus
one twenty five, they'll take plus one ten, They'll you know,
kind of play around like that with the money line
when it comes to a game that's that tight spread wise.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right, let's talk about some of these bigger matchups
here today. There's some great games in the SEC, there's
some great games in the Big twelve, and as you mentioned, some.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Of these teams are getting a.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Little bit of love as an underdog and that always
concerns me. I was a little concerned about South Carolina
this morning, seeing that I'll call them. Some of the
square books albeit are very heavy on South Carolina. But
to hear you say you guys have two way action
is very interesting. Let's talk the Ole Miss game, the
Bama Tennessee game. I kind of want to hear some
(05:58):
of your thoughts on BYU or Utah Dyu here.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This one's gonna be an interesting Holy war this year.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, just start with the two SEC games. I mean
Georgia on the opener for six and a half. We
got to seven and a half and that was sharp money.
That took the six and a half once again under
the touchdown. If they feel good about a team, they're
always going to make that bet. Now, once it hits
seven and a half, we saw a flood of Ole
Miss money and have even seen it at seven. So
(06:27):
we need Georgia in the game. Tennessee and Bama, it's
really been one way traffic. Bama was eight, now up
to nine and a half. I've even seen some tens
out there. We've really yet to rid a Tennessee bet.
So nothing about Alabama money. And the Utah and BYU
game has been one of those that's been going back
and forth. When it's on the low end, they lay Utah,
when it's on the high end, they take BYU. That
(06:49):
has seen pretty significant, you know, two way action. That's
one of those games where we just kind of have
to maybe avoid four and we'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
But that's a game that right and good handle.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, last week, you guys wanted to avoid three with
that Alabama Mazoo game, and of course that's exactly where landing.
That's kind of a difficult spot to be in from
a bookmaker's perspective, but it is going to happen from
time to time, especially when you're getting that two way action.
Let's kind of talk about some of these other games
here that I find really interesting that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Have really flown under the radar. Washington was a six.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I believe in the it was either in your contest
or one of the Splash contests. So I did play
the stale number there. But this is a game I
feel like nobody's talking about.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I think when you look at some of these earlier
nine AM games, which it's in that slot, you know,
LSU Vanderbilt is going to get some more love, even
Oklahoma South Carolina. Now Michigan's they've kind of been a
weird team and they have question marks with their running
back as well, but he'll probably play. Like I said,
we're gonna be rooting for Michigan. I mean, I haven't
seen much Michigan money come in because, like I said,
(07:56):
you saw the six and the five.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Get bet with Washington.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
All right. A couple other games and I think are
flying under the radar for whatever reason. Notre Dame has
gotten just absolutely steamed over the past few days against
the Trojans, I said, I'm not a shock eating weasel.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm bet on it this week, but if I have
to play it, I'm gonna lay it now. I feel
like it's almost too late to lay it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well, yeah, you missed it. I mean, you know, got
up to ten and a half. We're at ten now,
and okay, we were as low as nine. You know,
game of the year line on this was Notre Dame
eleven and a half. So obviously, you know, L's use
power ratings gone up a little bit. Notre Dame's probably
dropped a little bit, but it's kind of settled back
into that ten range.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Okay, cool, anything else worth noting before you give me
your needs and of course your best bet.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean, here's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Wisconsin took Money a plus twenty seven and a half
at home against Ohio State. It's a low total forty
one and a half, so they just figure, hey, let
me take almost the four touchdowns. It should be a
tight game, low scoring game with a total like that.
So I think that's, you know, something to keep of note.
And UNLV hometown team, man.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's been done.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But Boise Money that was ten and a half, it's
now thirteen and a half. I'd be shocked if we
get to fourteen because I think you'll see money with
U and LV at fourteen.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But a three point move to Boise.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That is very interesting there.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I believe Marco D'Angelo gave out the under in that game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Anything else worth note?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Our biggest need of the day, who you're going to
be cheering for the most?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, I mean some of those games.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, Georgia really is a significant need for us
in a game that we didn't touch on because the
quarterback situation, Like everybody piled on SMU this week, of course,
you know, so everybody, and they kept taking the worst number,
the worst number, the worst number, and now we're Clemson four.
I mean, I don't know, That's just one of those
games where it happens that way. I mean, we need
a miracle out of Clemson, obviously, because nobody wants to
(09:54):
take Clemson with their quarterback not playing, so obviously that's
going to be a need for us. But yeah, it's
going to be tough to get there on that one.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Let's talk about quarterback play really quick.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Sounds like Sam Levitt is going to be a go
for the Sun Devils, which is why we saw.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A ton of money flood in that direction.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Are you guys gonna still be cheering for Arizona State
even though with that news people started piling on the
sun Devils.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, they did, they did, And that's a crazy game
in the line year move. That was Arizona State by three,
you know, and now you're looking at now you're looking
at Texas Tech seven seven and a half. So yeah,
obviously when Levitt plays, that's going to help Arizona State.
They looked lost without him. So I think Arizona State
at home catching those points as good as Texas Tech
has been, that's going to be the move.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, that's gonna be the move for me.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That is one that I am going back and forth
on because I put them in my parlay in case
they happen to win. Out Right, I do have a
nice ticket on Texas Tech overwins and of course to
win the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So I'm kind of like, damn it. That's what's hard
about these futures, bet right.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Sometimes they put you in those precarious situations throughout the year.
Give me your best, bet Art, I know you got
to get back behind the counter and in the risk room.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You've got a lot of work to do before kickoff.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, I love to throw weird ones out there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Thank you u.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
El Monroe plus five and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, plus five and a half. It is Art to
Caesar guys at Art Dice.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You guys can catch him on the best betting show
ever with Joe Ranieri. In the press, it's called the
best betting show ever because Art's on it and he's
the best ever. We appreciate him every single Saturday morning
tuning in with all of you, answering any of your
questions in the chat and bringing us those needs from
the behind the counter. Art, thank you so much and
we'll see you next week. Guys, let's bring in VR.
(11:38):
He is here, Yanni the Greek. He's actually not here,
he's in Vancouver for the UFC, So we're gonna bring
him in.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Right now and see what he's got going on.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Every single Wednesday on bet on It, he brings us
the early information and then we decide here on Saturday
morning whether we're gonna codifire it or not. So bottom line,
what did you hear from Art? What did you What
do you agree with? What do you say on.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Your side, I like ul Monroe. I have them circled
as well. I think you just confirmed them for me.
I had already bet Georgia. We're on the Georgia side,
so that was good news. Otherwise, it's pretty much the
same stuff that I've been seeing. A lot of the
you know, we talked about earlier in the week, some
of the games that got dummied up now getting hit later.
(12:20):
As the betting limits get bigger and bigger, we don't
have really the big high profile games. I mean, there's
some decent matchups, but not that that big profile game
that that's getting all the volume that's you know, one
sided or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
So it's a good day for college football.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
This kind of day you could make some good money
because it's spread out, so there's a lot of good
numbers still valuable real quickly. I just got an added
board game. These I only give out to subscribers where
I know we could beat the number, and I only
send them out for like one percent two percent, just
so they could have the information because they do so well.
But I know not everyone could get down. But we
just bet Butler Butler plus three and a half against
(13:01):
Dayton plus three's good there as well. Let me give
you two player props real quickly. Also that we bet these.
I don't release the subscribers just because the lines move
quickly and I know not everybody's gonna be able to
get down. Georgia running back Nate Fraser, Georgia's running back
Nate Fraser went under forty and a half rushing yards.
(13:22):
That's under forty and a half rushing yards. And then
Vanderbilt's running back Cedric Alexander also under forty seven and
a half. So that's Cedric Alexander for Vandy under forty
seven and a half rushing yards, Nate Fraser for Georgia
under forty and a half rushing yards.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
If they're still available, These props really do.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, but again it's hard getting that money down at
those numbers. So anything else to let me know what
you want. I got so much information, Kel, there's so
much going on today.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's yeah, let's see what we got here going on
in the chat. We got Teddy Covers coming up here
in a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Then of course we've.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Got Kyle Anthony see so heyvyr Georgia tech versus Duke
A stay away ranked row team is the dog. So
we kind of talked about this with Art just a
minute ago and what got dummied up? And you told
me on Wednesday Georgia Tech was kind of that spot.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, what are we doing with this game?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I got a winner for you. You go under, you
go under, you go under for the full game, okay,
and then you go and you also go under Georgia
Tech team total first half, So we're going under Georgia
Tech first half team total under fourteen and then we're
going under sixty one Georgia Tech Duke full game. You're
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good there, Okay, under go under in that game. And
it's if you see that total move a little up,
don't let.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It scare you.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
It's so one sided public money that they're trying to
limit their risk by getting guys like me to come
in and bet that under. They know we like the
under at sixty one. They're giving us sixty one. Sixty
one and a half's out there because of.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
All the over money.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
This is an early game and there's a lot of
risk already tied into that over with later stuff, so
any line movement up, they're just trying to get some
under money, and we oblige them by going under Georgia
tech Duke.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
All Right, just a couple of questions in the chat
that I want to answer because there are games that.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
We haven't touched on, and I feel we haven't touched
on them at all.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Texas A and M at Arkansas Arkansas Fires are coached
two weeks ago and things look to be on the mend.
I've been betting against A and M all season long, Like,
let's just be real, I'm done stepping in front of
A and M at least not with this Arkansas team.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
This that what sticks out here is the betting line
because I'm seeing I haven't seen wise guy money on
this game except on the under. They steamed the under
at sixty and a half and sixty, and that's opposite
what the public's doing. So if you want one of
those sharps on one side, public on the other, go
with the under.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
But also on the.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Side, it's a lot of one sided action, kell on
the dog. So they're taking Arkansas plus the seven and
a half. That's what sticks out to me. Why isn't
this one at seven? We haven't seen the wise guys
come in and attack the side on this game. And
I'm telling you from looking at the back end, and
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I don't think that the books you know here in Vegas,
back in Vegas will have any different. It's a lot
of Arkansas money, Like you just touched on Texas A
and M. No confidence in them. And now not only
are they a touchdown, but they're above a touchdown, so
they now got it by two scores to cover that game.
There's a lot of love on this two and four
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Arkansas team.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
They play a lot better at home than on the road.
They're own three on the road too, and one at
host that's a real strong home field advantage. And Texas
A and M has outperformed the betting market, winning five
six straight games and more importantly, covering three of their
last or But something doesn't sit right because Arkansas played
a really good game against Tennessee but didn't get there.
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They lost by a field goal. I have a feeling
this one might turn into more of look like the
Notre Dame the.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Week prior where they got blown out like that, Remember
what happened?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They played a tough game against Memphis, lost by one,
then got blown out. Now they played another tough game.
I think they're that kind of team. They're at home,
but they were at home against Notre Dame as well.
I think they end up getting blown out here by
Texas saying them Mike one, I don't think Arkansas puts
up a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay, that's fair. A couple other questions here.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Another game that we barely touched on, but Art did
say that there were some sharp sides taking the plus
money with Wisconsin because of the low total. David here
in the chat wants to know Ohio State or Wisconsin
that is a lot of points. Br you talked about
on bat on it power ratings. Where do you guys
have Ohio State power rated and should they be?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Basically, what are we talking here?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Four touchdown favorites over I mean, I don't have my
odds logic screen up.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I apologize high.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
It's now down to twenty five, a little bit too high.
Ohio State's the best team in the country. They were
number one when the season started. They're still number one.
Now they're about four or five points better than the
number two team, so their gap is widening. It was
only like a field goal maybe two weeks ago. Now
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it's starting to wide. Guess who's number two right behind them?
It was Alabama.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's not Miami, It ain't Miami.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
It's no to Dame. No, the guy that I trust most.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Has Notre Dame as his second higher highest power rated team,
followed by Alabama, Oregon, Georgia, Texas.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Believe it or not?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
All right, let's see, we got a couple more minutes
here with VR four.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We let him go.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Anything you want to share in regards to UFC Vancouver,
I know we have Kyleie Anthony coming on to take
some of those questions, but that is why you are
in Vancouver. So any insight, anything you're hearing rumblings of
that our audiences know about.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
First fight of the night, Melissa Croden. It's her first
fight in the UFC. She's Canadian, Okay, She's a big, big,
strong girl, and pre UFC she had already been tested
three fights in the LFA one two of those. All
her wins are by finish. The only losses she has
is by decision. But more importantly, pre UFC her she
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hadn't fought a single opponent with a losing record. Usually,
like I see on the Contender series, they come in
they're not really tested you know they're they're fighting oh
and no opponents, ohero and five opponents, Like they're just
getting some wins as pros. That's not the case with
this girl because of being such a high prospect at
one twenty five.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I was shocked. I was shocked.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
She should be at least like a minus one six.
He won seventy favorite. I like crowding a lot a
lock on the card, but it's minus three hundred, Like
if someone said, give me one lock on the card,
it's azamat Bekov. He's not losing this fight, bel Guru.
He's he's like a duck kickboxer, a good kickboxer. This
kid's gonna destroy him like that. That's the one that
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that should be like a minus six hundred fight. Honestly,
the fact that it's minus three hundred, to me, it's
a steal at minus three hundred. Ooh even money for you? Uh,
Kyle Nelson over for Matt For Bola, I'm a fan
of for Bola.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I like for Bola.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Not a good matchup for him, and he got he
looked really really drained for the weigh in, and then
even after the weigh in, seeing them like rehydrating and
just didn't look all that great, and I'd already like
Nelson at even money.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
I think that's a steal.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
And then comene Evet Mike Malott the Canadian Kevin Holland's
gonna get some love like he always does. But I
think it's the wrong side being able to get Malot
at minus one ten. I thinks another steal should be
at least the minus one fifty wins this fight six
out of ten times, So let's go with Malot, Nelson,
Becoev and Crowden.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
All right, you guys got your UFC fix.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
If you have any more questions about UFC, you have
to wait till the end of the show when Kyle
pops on, I'm done bothering VR on this beautiful Saturday morning.
He's gonna be back tomorrow morning with Harry l Epstein
before he flies back to Las Vegas. So shout out
to VR, the hardest working man here in sports these days.
Love to see it. Thank you so much for coming
on at Greek underscore gambler Mikes. You guys are giving
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him a follow on the social channels. We're gonna bring
in Teddy Covers to answer all these other college football questions.
Because there's a ton in the chat. We're gonna start
off right out of the gate. Good morning, Teddy. Thank
you for being here, bright and early there on the
West Coast at Teddy Underscore covers on social media. Teddy
and I do the opening line report on Monday mornings
for the NFL. If you guys have not got a
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chance to check that out, you are missing out on pertinent,
life changing, well maybe not life changing, but very good information.
He has helped my NFL handicapping immensely this year and
my every NFL game, Teddy, I'm in the contest. Then
we have to pick every single NFL game every single week,
and I've done it for years my buddy Stephen, and it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Frustrates me because I would never do this.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Of course, this year we are tied in third place
fifty six and thirty eight on the season, and I
attribute a lot of that to the early information from Teddy,
and probably if I stopped playing garbage teams like the
Titans plus six would also help me out. But we're
going to talk college football today with Teddy. We got
some questions here. We're gonna start off with one game
that we haven't touched on at all. I think there's
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been some really nice marquee games, Teddy, and then there's
like that just second tier right below, like one A
is Old miss one B is Alabama, and then no
one's talking about Mazoo flipping to the favorite here at Auburn.
Do you have an opinion here or any information that
maybe you think are audience is no prior to betting
this game.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
So it's a pickham game in my mind. It really is.
So when you talk about a favorites flipping, you know,
the points spread inside of a field goal. It's not
a game where I had a strong opinion and I worry.
So I worry about Missouri finding that same energy that
they had last week against Alabama, you know, a game
where they kind of left it all on the field.
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That being said, I think Missouri is a better team,
you know. So it's not a game that I'm close
to betting. Well, haven't been close all week. It would
take it would take a three year higher for me
to get to a seriously consider either side, and that
would only be fading this team, all.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, fading this team. I kind of don't blame you there.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
This is just not one of those spots where I
loved either side. As you mentioned, it's a pickham game.
All right, let's teddy how much?
Speaker 6 (23:48):
How much do you do with totals in knowledgeable Not
much but some.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Okay, I'm very picky with my totals in college football,
and that has led to very good results with my
totals in college football. But I don't play a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I like that, all right, because a lot of guys
are asking Andrew and the question asking two totals this morning,
Ucla Maryland fifty two and a half, Cincinnati Oklahoma State
fifty seven and a half. If you have any information
or any opinion, maybe why you didn't play either one
of these.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
So I mean, Ucla totals wise, is a hard team
for me to play right now. You know the Bruins.
We've seen the offense come to life the last two
games we really have against and if we see the
same level of production they had against Penn State Michigan State,
this game will fly over the total. All right. If
we're talking modern you see, you know, the Tim Skipper
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version of the Bruins, there's certainly that potential for points
in bunches. That said, I watched enough of Ucla the
first five weeks of the season that I don't I
don't know that this isn't necessarily something that's going to continue.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And let's real quick, let's touch on the side than Teddy,
because this is a Maryland team. I cannot quit. I
cannot quit the terms, even though they break my heart
on the money line every single week. The cover's been
virtually not in doubt when they've been an underdog. This
one opened three and a half, now two and a half.
I took the three and a half early. I took
it in a lot of my sale lines in my contests.
(25:20):
But I'm kind of wondering if maybe UCLA didn't turn
a corner there right there becomes pinnacle spots in the season, right,
they fire their coach, they get back to back underdog wins.
Maryland now loses two heartbreakers in a row. Maybe I
should have quit the terps prior to this week, man.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
And certainly, when you're talking about traveling across the country,
all right, I need if I need a reason, a
specific reason why I want the team that's traveling twenty
five hundred miles for their game. You know, if they're
not the if you look at the basic ats results,
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just all teams traveling ease and all teams shelving west.
It's less than forty percent ats in the Big Ten,
you know, I mean it's been the travel spots. If
you're just playing the home team, you're doing fine. You're
making money, You're making consistent money. So you need a
rationale to play that road team. And Maryland's a team,
you right, They've been snatching victory from the defeat from
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the jaws of victory each of the last two ball games. Obviously,
when you have a twenty to nothing leading, as Washington
blow that and then last week kind of this it
wasn't as big a lead, but a comparable result against Nebraska,
which looks even worse after what Nebraska did last night
in Minnesota. I don't trust the terms, so I guess
it's you know, Ucla might be a team to ride here.
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And if you're playing Ucla, maybe look at the overuse.
Maryland's Maryland's an over team, Okay, Malik, Washington wants to
throw the football around. Their defense is not great, The
red zone defense isn't great. And when you have a
pass heavy team who doesn't have a great defense, I
have no arguments playing overs in their ball game. So
I guess I kind of talked myself into the over
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lean to the over lean to UCLA in that one.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
All right, So maybe that question was kind of correct.
Maybe that is a good spot there. All right, let's
see what we got for other questions here in the
chat Teddy it.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Was kelch just real quick. That was the second game
you asked me about.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Saty Oklahoma State.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
So Oklahoma State is fair. You know, Oklahoma State can't
stop anyone, all right, they can't. That's that's as as
weak a power for conference defense and you're gonna find
so I would leave. I think if if Cincinnati stays focused,
they can score on every possession against that defense, for
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whatever that's worth. But that's if Cincinnati played five. I thought,
since we're gonna have a high scoring game last weeknd's
UCF and that game finished twenty to eleven. H So
you know, the over and never sniffed an over in
that contest. So I was dead wrong. That being said that,
you know, colleg football has been pretty good. I'm not mad.
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I'm mad when I have a loser, but I can
handle having a wrong side loser on a day where
I have more right size or a weekend you have
more right size and bos.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What do you got going on over at wager Talk
in terms of college football for today?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Three? Only three good ones? I think you know we've
been we've been in an action all week put I mean
that's I usually run on a call on a Saturdays.
You know, between three and five plays as standards, Sometimes
you get six or seven, sometimes only find one or two.
But we got three going a college football run what
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Speaker 2 (29:02):
Teddy, give me a college football game that narrowly missed
your card, maybe you would have put up as a
free play, or maybe it's one that you talked about
on Widgter Talk today or one of the other shows
that you were on.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
So we talked about UNLV Boise a little bit. I
heard you guys talking about that game or earlier on
and I've seen so the Rebels are a team that
I think is an undervalued commodity. All right, UNLV. Their
statistical profile is not pretty, and they've won multiple games
this year that are lucky, lucky, lucky. We talked about
the Miami O game and people are going back to
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Week one, and I look at UNLV as a pretty
good team, a team that lost to Boise in the
Mountain West Championship game last year. The office didn't really
work in that game. So you want to talk about
a little bit of extra motivation, you know it's there
for the Rebels. Last week they didn't cover. There's no
betting bandwagon. The wise guys hate UNLV. The money's been
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pouring in against them. If I'm playing, I'm taking the
dog in that one. UNLV correlates with over. I'm not
convinced they're gonna shut down Boise, but I would not
be surprised at all if they trade points with them
all taking long. So rebels were on my short list.
Didn't pull the trigger, but certainly in their.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Direct All right, rebels on your short list, Let's look
at my short list. Let's see what we got left
here that we haven't really doven in deep to there's
a game. I feel like nobody's talking about Indiana with
a huge upset last week at Oregon, and now nobody's
talking about them. They just gave Kirk Signetti a truck
bed full of money. What are your thoughts here on
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this Big ten matchup?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Here's my thought. Never bet on the team the week
after the coach just got paid.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Why coaches could?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
What's coach what Signetti doing this week? Sure he's focused,
he's focused, But I just got paid, Bro, you know
what I mean? And so and I talked about this
on WAYD. You talked today yesterday. All right, Kirk Signetti
will be fired before his contract ends. Just leave it
into dead.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Wait, okay, you can't say hon takes like that and
not have a follow up. Please please elaborate as to
why you think Kirk Signetti is gonna get fired.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
They will pay his buyout before Okay, Indiana is having
an impressive run. All Right, last year was great. They
snuck up on everyone. This year. He brought in a
bunch of big name recruits and they're beating the crap
out of people. All Right? Can he do that in
Bloomington the same way into his seventies or are they
gonna start getting frustrated too? You know? So look what
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happened with James Franklin at Penn State?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
All right, well, what's.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Happening with my kse wildcouts Teddy?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We're we're nobody team, and I am livid that we're
not gonna win ten games this year because the expectation
level that was set previous to the season. When you
get fans an expectation level, you will get fired in
a James Franklin position. James Franklin was expected to go
back deep into the college Football Playoff and fight for
a national championship. And losing that game at UCLA and
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then turning around and losing the Northwestern was inconceivable, and
I agree with it. Everybody thinks I'm crazy as a
k State fan because their answer is who are you
gonna get that's better? And I think Penn State is
now finding out.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Penn State will wish for James Franklin. I know, Okay, Signetti,
who's who I agree with the concept of stay, Hey,
sign the fat contract here. They love me and I
can win eight, nine, ten games here and some expectations.
You're gonna have to Hey, you have to be you
have to win the national championship every year. We're gonna
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fire you, you know, or play for it. I mean
that's the Penn State. Like, Okay, loo did did.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You guys really think that Nick Saban and everything that
he worked so hard for he was just going he
wanted to leave because he saw the riding on the
wall with Nil and the transfer portal and everything else.
Like you're you're get I'm gonna get a Bill Snyder
once in my lifetime. You're gonna get a Nick Saban
once in your lifetime. Like as as fans have to
take a step back and realize what the reality is
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in the changing of college football.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
And note we just talk at frank how can they
sign these guys to ten year contracts? You know because
five to who knows we're gonna play And Signetty just
signed a nine year contract. You can't give those kind
of contracts. And yet but he want to do this
kind of contract because's where it takes to keep the guy,
so you end up with bad contracts later on, just
like free agency. You know, it's like NBA free agency
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in particular, where you get all these guys who are
making you know, twenty million dollars a year or thirty
million dollars a year, and the last guy in the
bench and you trade him as an expiring contract for
some boto feed rule takes them.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
All right, Well, let's go to a couple more questions
before we get to Kyle Anthony.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
We went on a little tangent.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
This is kind of like the opening line report, except
I don't get it follow up with Teddy because we
got to hit every single game like Teddy and I
could do a two hour opening line report if available,
because we have so so many follow ups. All right, Kelly,
you talk about Florida every week. How you feel about
the Gators this week? Andrew did not see my parlay.
I am all over Mississippi State. There's an interesting game, Teddy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I live.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
My dad lives right outside of Gainsville, of three and
a half hours south of Gainesville.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You get all these little rumblings, right, Billy Napier is
gonna get fired this weekend, win or lose is what
I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Okay, disclosure you.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Time about coaches getting paid, what about coaches that are
seats are literally on fire?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Again, it comes down to expectations. The expectations of Florida
are very very high, yes, right, And in a conference
like the Big Ten or like the where the Mississippi
States of the world, you know, and the Indianas of
the world are, there's pressure there, there's urgency there, you know,
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where it's it's very difficult to stay on top. And
it's very difficult if you're not the top team, as
you know, one of the next four or five. Michigan's
finding that out now, you know. It's a whole different world.
And when you're talking about eighteen team conferences, In sixteen
team conferences, only one team's gonna win, all right, So
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there's a conference title that's not being given out, you know.
So I'm so any of the So certainly I don't
want to lay with Florida today. I'd rather take the
Gators away from home than that home right now, because
if things go south, the crowd is not amused in
the swap. That being said, I bet against Mississippi State
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in their last game against A and M and cast
that one with room to spare, and I wouldn't be
surprised they have another craft game on the road here.
They're not at Florida's level and the Gators a game
will destroy Missippi State.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, if listen, if Florida comes to play like they
did when the jersey said taxes across the front of it, absolutely,
but I took them again versus A and M, and
that offense just isn't good. The defense to play, but
when they are gassed by the fourth quarter, there's only
so much you could do. I've been less than impressed
with DJ Lagway. I mean, even when he's not throwing
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five interceptions against LSU, like, there's just there's just been
an expectation that, hey, he's gonna take a big step
forward and it did not happen for the Gators.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Let's get one more question here from Teddy.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Uh. Let's go okay here, this is the game ever
we want to talk about because it' kicking off here soon.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Oklahoma, South Carolina. I'm all over the dog.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Marco gave off the dog because Oklahoma's coming off that
Texas lost. They're zero and three there with Brent Vintables
after playing Texas. South Carolina has been so frustrating to
me last week. I took him versus LSU this week,
As I said, there wasn't a lot of dogs that
I liked. So I was like, all right, Marco, I'll bite.
We're gonna go one more time here with the game
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Cocks at home. This is a winnable game in a
gauntlet of a stretch of their schedule.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well, it makes Oklahoma win. I mean Oklahoma was really good.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
John my tears not that healthy.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I think we saw that last week versus Texas, coming
off that thumb surgery.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I thought they rushed him out there a little bit
too early.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Look, there was arguments right after Week one that maybe
Leonora Sellers could be in the Heisman race, and then
those quickly dwindled.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But I do think they have a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I think they have a great special teams, and that
special teams and defense always seems to be good for
not only a turnover but possibly a score.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I don't disagree with that. I just think Oklahoma is
a better team, and I think they're the better team
by more than a few points. You know, South Carolina
is not a team that I'm particularly high on this year.
They certainly haven't done a whole lot to be particularly
excited about them. Sellers has banged and banged up as
well this season. He's not at one hundred percent and
hasn't been one hundred percent. Now. If Matier plays the
game he played last weekend Tech, I think get Texas's
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defense at a different level. True, all right, but if
the tier plays that game, Oklahoma's not winning, they're not covering.
I haven't bet Oklahoma, but I would certainly lean in
that direction. I think that they should be able to
control the trenches on both sides of the football in
this game. And if you control the line of scrimmage,
you can lay four on the road.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
All right, guys, this is Teddy Covers. I will see
him again bright and early Monday morning. For the opening
line report. We give you all of the information you
need to get ready for the NFL week.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
We kind of touch on what happened.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The week prior when we should not be overreacting, or hey,
we got some of those.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Emergency batting alerts.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I always like to bring crops to the show, guys,
so we will see you Monday, eleven thirty excuse me,
eleven am Eastern, eight am Pacific at Teddy Anderscore Covers.
Give Teddy a Fall. You can also watch the rewatch
of the show right here on the Wager YouTube channel.
If you guys have a u FC question, dropping in
the chat because we're gonna bring in Kyle Anthony here
in one minute. Some of the guys saying, hey, where
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can I catch your socials? Right there at Kelly and Vegas, guys,
so you can see all of my parlays. They are
going to be ooh, South Carolina money line. Interesting, we'll see.
I'm a little nervous. But Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, it's all
over the place. Can't miss it, don't you guys worry.
We're gonna see what we got here. Use your computer's notes.
(39:12):
Everybody's over here sharing note ideas. I'm old school piece
of paper every single week and then I trash it.
Hopefully got to cash it. That's what VR likes to say.
Kyle Anthony coming in for UFC Vancouver. We're gonna take
you guys up until kickoff or when the question stop.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Kyle we're gonna get to.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Your two games or your two games, your two fights.
Excuse me, my brain is in college football mode. But first,
I kind of wanted to talk about some of the
ones that VR mentioned because I love when you guys agree.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That's kind of a fun thing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
He threw out some big favorites, and you do a
hero parlay every week. Sometimes some big favorites sometimes sprinkle
some money line underdogs. You hit that last week correct
eighteen to one. You're welcome, it's because I didn't bet it.
Talk to me about the hero parlay. Then I'm gonna
bring up I'm sure you didn't hear all of them,
and I'm not going to be able to pronounce these
(40:03):
people's last names, but I'm curious to hear if maybe
the three guys or gals two guys in one gal
that VR gave us are also on your radar.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
What was the one that he gave He gave now
Kyle Nelson, Well, Kyle Nelson was one. Well, Kyle Nelson
was one. I actually don't agree with him on that.
I actually do like for Vola there and there's a
lot of reasons, to be honest, but one of the
biggest reasons is that I think that Kyle Nelson is
extremely extremely hittrble. I do think the wrestling will be
(40:38):
there for for Bola. I think the Tate downs will
be there. I think he's got the power to do it.
And I think that Kyle Nelson has kind of really
kind of has outperformed his number over the last few fights.
He got knocked out recently, so I think this is
a great bounce back spot here for Matta Bowl and
be honest, Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Cool, All right, guys, we got almost forty five of
you watching. Make sure you guys give us that like
hit the subscribe buttons you never missed another episode here
on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Kyle, one of the gate.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
One of the I'm gonna do it again, one of
the bights that you and.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
N VR both agree on.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Mike Malott versus Kevin Holland Mike Malott minus one ten
coin flip fight here. I have to get involved. Both
of you guys are giving this one on. I gotta
get involved now.
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Yeah, So in this one here, like you said, Mike
a lot, it's a pick um price tag here, and
you've got Kevin Holland, who is a rangy striker, very
good at utilizing his reach, has good boxing, does have
some power there. And one of the things that he
does well also is if you stick out your neck
or leave a limout. He's very good at opportunistic submission game.
He's gonna go out there, look for these takedowns, look
(41:42):
for the opportunity.
Speaker 9 (41:43):
Where the hell did I go?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I know, I this is why I That's where I
screwed it up because I was trying to do something else.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And now Kyle's off the screen.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I'm just gonna let Louis we go, we go it.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Uh but uh but yeah, you know, Holland has a
lot of great things that he does on the feet.
The biggest issue for him in this fight is a
going to be the fact that Holland has terrible takedown defense.
Now again, he has some submission game, but terrible takedown defense.
And not only just that, but he's facing a lot
who is a wrestler, who is a grappler, and there's
opportunities there, but he can be taken down. But also
(42:15):
the fact that a lot of the situation where Holland
just gets.
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Stuck on his back.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
He's a guy that you know, he's gonna throw up
very low percentage submissions off of his back. He can
be taken down, he can be kept there, and that's
really right into maloc game, and malt is a guy
that's going to take the path at least resistance here.
I think the takedowns will be there. I think that
if he wants to get the takedown it's there. Then
once he's down, I think he can bank the round.
(42:40):
I think that he can keep the round, look for
submission ability, to look to finish that fight. And I
also don't think that there's anything that really Holland can
do to really defend that. And obviously one of the biggest,
probably the biggest downside on Mallet because there, you know,
there is one, and it is a little bit to
vulnerability and cardio. Now, a couple of fights ago, we
fought Neil in a fight where Malat was winning the
(43:02):
first two rounds. He gassed out and got knocked out
with ten seconds left. It wasn't the greatest look for him.
He's bounced back with a couple wins. But the difference
here between Neil Magni and Kevin Holland is the fact
that they don't fight the same you know, Neil Magni
weaponizes his cardio, he comes forward, he keeps opponents working.
He's trying to really drain on you to get that
finish in that later round. That's not Kevin Holland's game.
(43:23):
Kevin Holland is very low paced. He lacks the days
of coal with his offense. You know, he's a guy
that's not really going to really be pushing any type
of pace at all. And you've also gotten the fact
that Holland is incredibly inconsistent. He's a guy that has
said even in interviews, he doesn't want to fight high
level guys.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
He doesn't want to fight for a title. He just
wants to.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
Fight for money and fight these middling fighters and some
fighters that maybe are looking to be on the rise,
like malat Is, And that's kind of it, and that's
not something you want to hear from someone you're backing here.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
So I think that malat.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
Can dictate the pace, get the takedowns, you know, bank rounds,
and I think this submission is absolutely live here. But
I think, you know, this line has, you know, come
in here, because people do. I think br said it,
you know, they people just like love Kevin Holland. You
know he's he's a character, but I think this is
a great spot from a lot in Canada, in home soil,
so I think he gets the job done here.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
As somebody who knows very minimal about the UFC, when
I recognize one name and see that they're at a
pick'em coin, flip course, I do recognize Kevin Holland I
love to Oh yeah, everybody loves when I pronounced the
fighters' names and just completely Butcher hockey would also be hard,
just like your last name, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I'm not even going to try.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
All right, there is one that I can Ranier de
Ritter versus Brendan Allen.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Talk to me about this fight, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
And then also before you get into it, let everybody
know what you've got up for UFC Vancouver over at wager.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Talk dot com.
Speaker 9 (44:47):
Yeah, so right now, I've got six plays up. I
have a big slate, a lot of plays that I
do like.
Speaker 8 (44:52):
I have a five percent max bet play, which actually
is at plus money. I love the spot there. I've
always got plus money in my packs. This is another
great spot here. We're hitting at seventy five percent clip
on these five percent plays, So love the.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
Spot and Uh, you know we're gonna get the get
the job done today.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
All right, let's get into this second fight and who
you like to go to the distance.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
Yeah, So we have Rainder de Ridder here, he's minus
two ten and the comeback. We've got Brendan Allen. He's
sitting around plus one seventy. Now you've got Rander de
Rider here. He's a former dision two division champion over
at one FC. Since he's come over, he's really looked great.
You know, he's on a four to zero run. He'd
just be former champion Robert Whitaker in a great fight.
And that fight really answered a lot of questions where
(45:39):
you know, we were really sure, you know, is he
at the ability, is he at this height? Is he
able to really fight at this level?
Speaker 7 (45:45):
And he was.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
You know, he went through some adversity, got dropped early
and was able to really push through and was able
to really find a lot of success there. He showed
that you know, he does have cardio, you know, he
does have durability, and he is tough. Now, one of
the biggest advantages here, I think for are is going
to be the fact that he is massive for this division.
Speaker 9 (46:04):
He's huge you know, he's the.
Speaker 8 (46:05):
Guy that really utilizes that and bullies people, you know, leverages,
his size, is able to lean on his opponents, look
for those takedowns, you know, get the get top control,
push him up against the fence, and he's able to
really utilize that heavy forward pressure. And that's just going
to be something that again he squeezes down to this division,
he's gonna you know, when he rehydrates, he gets massive,
(46:25):
and he's gonna have that strength and physicality advantage here
that I think he can really start to really utilize
that throughout this fight. Now, Allen is a well rounded fighter,
there's no doubt, but he has a lot of flaws,
and one of his biggest flaw is really fact he's
got terrible cardio and this is that's a terrible thing
for him coming into this matchup here. Where yes, early
he can have some nice you know, combinations, he has
(46:47):
some nice wrestling exchanges, he can mix it up, but
really outside of like the first eight nine minutes, he
can start to slow down in the fight. And this
these are in three round fights. This is now going
to be a five round fight. And the biggest issue
here in one of the big red flags is the
fact that this is short notice for Brendan Allen as well.
So for a guy that already has suspect cardio, you know,
(47:07):
durability can be a little bit iffy. You know, this
is a tough spot for him to really come And
I talked about it a little bit last week.
Speaker 9 (47:13):
We did hit on our four percent on Charles Olavera.
Speaker 8 (47:15):
A big reason why I liked him at Pickham was
the fact that Gamrack's coming in on short notice of
like two weeks, five round fight and they were shipping
him to Brazil.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
A lot of moving parts.
Speaker 8 (47:24):
There for a guy that he won't be in optimal.
Speaker 9 (47:26):
Peak physical condition.
Speaker 8 (47:28):
Now Rainer on the other side here that I just
think everything that he does can really nullify what Allan
does well. And you're talking about takedowns, you're come out wrestling.
I don't think that really materializes here for RDR. I
think he's able to kind of, you know, dictate the pace.
He's the one that's going to be able to defensive
brestle and then offensive brestle and get his takedowns here.
He's very unorthodox, He's very awkward in his movements, very
(47:51):
tough to prepare for. And I think he's able to
muscle takedowns, get top control, and I think he finds
a finish here. I think that again, the fact that
this is on short notice, I think highly favors RDR.
And that's where I think that he's gonna he's gonna
drain him. He's gonna be able to melt him as
this fight goes on. So you have a RDAR he's
minus around the minus two ten mark. You can get
him inside the distance around plus one ten. I think
(48:12):
that is really a fantastic number. I think it's a
great number, and I think he gets the job done
inside those five rounds.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
All Right, We've got to take a couple of questions
from the chat before we get out of here. This
one's interesting. Uh Ma, Lot knockout in the second. Okay,
so you like malt VR likes me Lot. Is there
any of these I would call the exotics if you
will knockout to win bye decision, things like that. Are
there anything else that you like in this fight, particularly
(48:39):
how malt may win it?
Speaker 8 (48:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think inside the distance is extremely
live here, and I think especially the fact that the
home crowd we Lot's a guy that really likes to
fight in front of his home crowd.
Speaker 9 (48:50):
He's always fighting there.
Speaker 8 (48:50):
I think that does push these guys, you know, whether
in Brazil, whether it's going to push the home crowd,
they're gonna be backing you.
Speaker 9 (48:56):
They love Mike Malott here.
Speaker 8 (48:58):
So I lean more towards in the distance because I
think that that if you're going to go a path,
get a little bit more, but take both methods here
because if the fight goes to the ground, a lot
absolutely has a chance to submit Holland he has such
a grappling disadvantage that it could be there, and I
don't really unless it's a ground and pounds, but I
don't really see him wanting to stand and strike with
(49:19):
Holland because of the eight inch reach advantage. He's much larger.
He's going to utilize that. So I think the takedowns
is where it's at. Yes, it could be the knockout,
but I think inside the distance, taking both methods is
probably the a little bit of the safer route there.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
All right, we got about ten minutes until kickoff.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I don't see any more questions in the chat, But Kyle,
anything else you'd like to leave our audience with.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
Mike could quickly give out Charles Jordayne versus Davy Grant.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Here.
Speaker 8 (49:45):
Now you've got Charles Jordain, he's minus one seventy. Davey
Grant's about plus one thirty. And you know, this one here,
I think is actually a great fight for another hometown
guy in Jordaane here. And you know you've got Jordayanne,
who is high risk, high reward kind of guy. He's
going to do a lot of spinning shit, He's gonna
jump around. You know, his nickname is Air Jordaine. He
really kind of sticks with the flashy stuff that he
(50:07):
does do. But you've got Grant thirty nine years old,
ten years older than Jordaine, and yes he's got some victories,
but they're against very low level opposition. And where I'm
going with this is, I like Jordaine double chance, which
is going to be submission or by points, which is
sitting around plus one oh five. And I think that's
a great spot here because the last time that charge
(50:28):
Jordaine had a knockout was back in twenty twenty one.
The last five wins for Jordayne were submissioned or by decision.
And also you've got to add in that out of
Grant's seven losses, he's never been knocked out, So it
really pins you to two really methods that you know,
Jordain not really the finisher of the knockout side. I
(50:48):
think that the submission can definitely materialize, but I think
he pitter patter shots works on the outside and just
dominates over three rounds. So plus one plus one oh
five I think is a nice spot.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
All right, And when the hero parlay be out for today.
Speaker 8 (51:02):
I will be probably in the next twenty thirty minutes
check out again. Like you said, Kelly, we hit on
eighteen to one is a nice spot there.
Speaker 9 (51:10):
Now wait, here's here's a question.
Speaker 7 (51:11):
Though.
Speaker 9 (51:11):
The big question is are you betting it?
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (51:14):
All right, exactly listen. Every once in a while I'll
catch it. I really should pay more attention to once
some of these guys are on, especially if it's a
fun card and I know I'm going to be out
watching college football and the UFC card is going to.
Speaker 9 (51:25):
Be on right right.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
No, just I will.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Not bet it today, but you guys can get it
out on social media at Kyle Anthony UFC. Good luck
to you, Kyle, good luck. I already did bet a lot,
so just everybody.
Speaker 9 (51:39):
All right, all right, oh boring.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
You can blame me in the comment session. Thank you
Kyle for coming on. When we see you next Saturday,
is there. I don't have the UFC schedule for Mere.
Speaker 9 (51:49):
Yeah, big, big, big, big card next week.
Speaker 8 (51:52):
Two title fights Tom aspinall defending the heavyweight title Versyril Gone.
It's actually going to be starting at New So when
we come on here, it's just gonna be kicking off.
Speaker 9 (52:03):
It would be a good time to kind of discuss everything.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Wonderful love that for us.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Thank you to Kyle, thank you to Teddy, thank you
to VR, and of course thank you to Art. A
big thank you to all of you guys hanging out
here with us on Saturday morning on the wager Talk
YouTube channel, almost five thousand of you across YouTube, social media,
et cetera, et cetera. Again, if you guys are looking
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(52:28):
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after last call.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
And if you are an insider, you get to join
for free.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Usually that's only open two premium subscribers, to make sure
you guys check that out Tomorrow. Last Call eleven thirty
am Eastern, eight am Pacific, Era Epstein hosting. We got
Carmine Bianco, Steve Merrill, We've got John Murray from the
West Gates and Book and of course Von good luck today, guys,
thank you again, and we'll see you next week.
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