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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Happy Wednesday, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome into puck Time on wager Talk TV Andrew McGinnis,
Carma and Bianco and we are joined shortly by none
other than mister Brian Leonard breaking down Detroit and Florida.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We got a handful of games today, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're gonna touch on all of them and shout out
to all of you guys that are here live in
the comments section or to tune in afterwards.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We appreciate you guys all as well. Guys.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
A smaller slate today in the NHL, but one that
we can certainly make some money on. I don't love
a lot of sides today, but I do have some
props that I like for you. He's looking forward to
cashing some tickets and speaking of which, I know Karm
cash the ticket yesterday easily with the.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Preds and Toronto over.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I had a great night myself, including a nice empty
net goal with four seconds to go when it's going well,
it's going well, and we got that empty net goal
for the team total over the Vegas Golden Nights. So
a real good good day yesterday, and we keep on rolling.
Harm you just needed one team man yesterday for you're
over seven goals for the Mayple Leafs. How about that
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bounce back game?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, I love the I love the spot yesterday. I'll
be on the screen eventually.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, how much screen time do you need? Where I
got it? It's just voiceovers, and but I love I
loved the spot yesterday. I thought we were going to
see a lot of goals in that game, and it
worked out to the best. I don't know why I
look a little crooked on that screen. Let's just fix
that up a little bit for you guys, But it
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gets there. And then I stayed up just because I
wanted to see the Anaheim Ducks and see if they
could do it as our bank roll builder play. And
once again, the Ducks fall into a two nothing hole
and claw their way back into that game. So I
was pretty happy about that. Everyone I think was happy
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about that. Yes, the bird is upstairs. It's hopefully a
bit a little quiet, Jake. I do not have any
pizza with me right now, but it sounds like a
fantastic idea for lunch today is some pizza and just
looking for another good day today, I will have a
bank will play today. It'll be half the size unit
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wise of what I normally do. It'll be a instead
of a two hundred dollars flat bet, it will be
one hundred dollars flat pet. But we'll have that at
the end of the show. And we're going to cover
all four games today. Andrew and I are going to
do Buffalo in Ottawa to kick it off. Brian Letter
comes in to tackle the Florida Panthers and Detroit Red Wings.
Andrew and I will finish it off with Saint Louis, Chicago, Calgary, Utah,
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and then of course the play of the day and
we will sign off. But yeah, I'm happy to get
the clients. A lot of people bought that play yesterday
as part of a five dollars Tuesday's customer appreciation Day,
so I thank you all of course for being a
part of it, to all you guys who were in
the chat as well too. So but that said, Andrew,
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we got to hit this and Okay, you know what,
I would be remiss if I didn't say this, because
I did say on yesterday's show the Seattle Kraken and
you and I are going to see completely different on this.
But that's no way was that a holding penalty on
Marchment that gave montreally chance to tie it up very
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late in the game and send it to ot where
they won it. It's like it's like the Kansas City
Chiefs referees. You guys had the officiating crew on that
one beach I think was the official Canadian Of course,
I don't know, you guys kind of stole on it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I've got my answer. I've got my answer.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, I know you got your answer with this.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There's two things.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Number One, anybody that watched the game, there was an
icing call that should have been negated because I think
that Lane Hudson beat his men all the way to
the hash mark, which is supposed to negate the icing.
But number two, I gotta ask you this, Karl, aren't
you ta Aren't you tired of seeing slashing calls being
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made just because a player's stick drops on the ground
like this person had the grip of a four year
old on their stick.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Coffield taps their stick.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And it falls out of their hand, and immediately the
second a referee sees that, they call it. It's like
the easiest It's it's like it's like the it's the
diving version of NHL.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Honestly, it really is because if.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You are good at dropping, like you have a light
grip on your stick and it drops, then it's easily.
The referee looks over, Oh, oh, that guy's stick is
on the ground. It has to be a slashing call.
So that's the one. I'm not gonna say you're wrong,
but I know you can agree with me on this one.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That Coffield not really the biggest guy.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
He they skates by, somebody taps their stick and it
drops to the ground.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's not really slashing. Come on now, so.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It is uh, I get it? Andrew listen, these are
like four and five hundred dollars sticks right now. Bring
me back to the old days of the coho wooden
sticks that when we broke them growing up as kids
in an Italian family, my mom just cut the blade
off of it and used them for tomato sticks in
the garden. Anyone who is old will know what that is.
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You stuck that stick in the garden. They tied a
little wrap around and they made the tomatoes grow and
stuff and plain hockey. This is how I age myself.
When my stick broke, you know what we did. We
cut off the bottom of it and we put the
plastic blade on yes, you and then you heat it
up the oven or the thing and you put the
curve on it. That is the olden days of how
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you used to play hockey, not this five hundred dollars
stick now that you breathe on it and it snaps
in half. But anyways, but that said, Ottawa Senators minus
one twenty one, the Buffalo Sabers even money at home
total sits here at six. Andrew and we now know
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I think he's out for four weeks. I did see
the slash or not the slash when you went in
pretty much head first but hands first into the boards
Brady to Chuck of the Ottawa Senators, and he did
stay on the ice for the power play. But it
looks like he's out for four weeks. How does that
affect this team and how does that affect your handicapping?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, Carl, I mean looking at this one here, it's
one of those types of situations where you kind of
think that maybe a team will rally around the injured player.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Theory, right, maybe a.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Team can rally around the fact that Brady Kuchuk is
out and it's not going to be easy about without him.
But I really think people forget that he is the
heart and soul of the team.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
He is that guy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But the problem is, Karl, I hate the way he
got injured. Like I know, injuries can happen in so
many different ways. He got injured in a scuffle. He
got injured in pushing players around, and and maybe it
was a hard check. He took a little bit as
well from Yosi and he had to brace himself to
catch himself along the boards. I don't like the way
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he ended up even getting that injury. But a lot
of times teams do rally around each other. But it's
the Buffalo Sabers coming in zero to three, and this number,
it seems weird, Karm. It seems like a short price,
like it's the same thing. I mean, it was minus
one zero five on the road for the Sabers against
the Bruins, and now without Brady could chuck, it's only
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minus one twenty, you know, for the visiting senators here.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It seems a bit confusing.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And I think at this point, if you're betting on
the Buffalo Sabers, you're betting on them doing something they
haven't really done before. And I think that if you
want to bet on them doing something they haven't done before.
You might as well just take the over because they're
going to give up goals. They've proven they're going to
give up goals. And what bothers me the most about
the Sabers so far, Karm, is that they've actually had
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good goaltending so far. Like, look at the games they've played.
They've had some games where their goalies have played well
and they still didn't even do anything about it. So
I do think we could see goals early on. You've
got a goalie making his first career start, I believe,
for Buffalo, but you've got Ottawa coming off a game
where they get up a ton of goals against Nashville.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Might not get much better.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I've got one play that I like here, Karm,
and just one play that I'm gonna mention. It's a
player prop And I wanted to bring this up because
some players they play better or not better, but they
do well in filling in for certain roles, and I
want to bring this up here. This is Drake Bathson's
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numbers and his last six games he has recorded at
least one point when Brady could shuck has been out
of the lineup. To me, that's pretty cool like to
look at. Like you can go on certain websites you
can find stats to look at how certain players perform
when another player isn't in the lineup and when Brady
could Chuck is out of the lineup. Drake Bathurson has
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gotten at least one point in six straight games. Now
he makes his return to the lineup today, Zeterlin Stutsla
and Bathurson projected to be the top line right winger.
I hate to give out a Chalky well not even
really Choky minus one forty five, but I feel like
Drake Bathurson comes into the game and immediately makes an impact.
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So sometimes players need to step up when a player
goes out, and I feel like he's the guy to
step up immediately coming into the game here.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Karen, Yeah, no, Andrew, I get that. It's sort of
the next man up mentality. You know, this is one
of those games where you know, I look at that.
I look at a couple of ways, and I can
see where you're the when you talk about goals. I
can see where that that logic or that thought process
comes from. You know, the Otawa senators. You look at it.
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If the Sabers are going to beat a team, and
they haven't done a great job of it. They actually
played very well against the Colorado Avalanche, but that given
they still lost that game three to one. And I
think it was on Monday, and the difference in that
game was was McKinnon. Definitely he was. The Savers just
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couldn't handle him, couldn't handle his speed, couldn't handle him
in the offense of his own But the Sabers in
their two losses at home, I've only scored one goal.
They were shut out by the Rangers. They lose three
to one to Colorado. But they're they're generating some XG.
They generated just a little over two and a half XG.
And for those of you tuning in who don't know
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what XG means, it means expected goals and it's a
good indicator of if it's a high number and a
team isn't scoring. Eventually, those lines on a graph will cross,
and when you see a team scoring get closer to
what their XG is. That is usually normally a signal
that you want to make them a bet on team.
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Sabers haven't been scoring, but now they get an Outawa
team that they've beaten Force three games in the regular season.
They've scored at least three goals in each of those games.
And this is not of a team that thus far
this year has been taking some dumb penalties. Travis Green
can't be happy with how this team is playing right now, Andrew,
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in spite of getting you know, a win to start off,
I think in Tampa the game against Florida, they took
some dumb penalties. They took definitely took them against Nashville.
They've got to be better from that perspective because if
you keep giving teams power plays, you're going to get
scored on eventually. So there's only so much that a
guy like Linus Almark could eventually do. The one thing
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that hurts the Sabers is, you know, and I talked
about this when pres was on the show, is it's
Alex lin again. And I'm not saying Alex Lion is
a bad goalie, Andrew, but he's not their number one
like Lucnan is their number one. He's injured, and so
it's been all alex Lyon thus far. They need to
get a one to two goalie combo in one guy
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can't take the brunt of it. So we'll see what happens.
But I have a feeling it's not a client play
that the Sabers get the victory tonight. So give me
the Sabers in this one. That's even money, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know what carm Dave Cochin used to say, and
I'm paraphrasing here, but he used to say, when a
line seems fishy, that's the side you want to be on.
And you've got an zero to three Buffalo Sabers team
against an Ottawa Senator's team that has projections to be
much higher, and yet the number is so short. It
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does seem a bit weird, does seem a bit fishy here, Miss.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Dave every day.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And I always think of games like this, uh or
Dave when I look at games like this, because it
does seem like kind of a weird number here for
an oh and three team.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
This kind of reminds me of NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know those stats we saw from Ralph like oh
and two versus a one and two or whatever, you know,
started the season.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It's like, how many games in a row will the
Buffalo Savers lose? Find out next time?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know it's listen and I get Andrew. You know
the thing is, and this is why I say to
everyone trying not to be reactionary with some of these games,
especially early on. Sometimes a good team is going to
lose two or three to start the season, and it
doesn't mean that you're you're you want to start betting
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against them. You know, you look at the Oilers a
couple of years back, or you know with with their team,
you know, I mean like they lost I think six
of seven out of the gates, ten of twelve, make
a coaching change and end up in the Stanley Cup finals.
So maybe they were bet against team early on, but
you don't want to bet against them when they start
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to win. And they did win sixteen in a row
at one point before unfortunately that Christmas All Star break
or whatever came about. But speaking of guys who love
to streak, let's bring in the one, the only Brian Leonard. There.
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It is there he is looking as my god, if
I had hair like that, dude, I wouldn't even be
on puck time. I'd be out at a bar at
like eleven am, just flashing my hair back and forth
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Brian, give some of your hair the car. Honestly, as us.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Said, I'm going to get a haircut Thursday. Does he
does he want my clippings?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I don't know. I'll read it to Marco. He was
pretty upset about it. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna go to Turkey and come back from Turkey in
like six months time, and I'm gonna have like a
full head of air. I'll just look like, you know whatever,
I'll look like one of you guys. But we need
a little boldness on this show. I'm like the it's
like the Oreo cookie with the I'm the cream in
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the middle there. So it's it's what it is. Brian,
Florida and Detroit and then we'll get to some other
stuff in a minute. The Panthers minus one for one
Detroit plus one sixteen off back to back wins against
the Leafs. One deserved, lea one they stole. But as
I mentioned before, you win the games you're supposed to
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win and then steal a few of the ones you're
not supposed to win, and that is the recipe for
making the playoffs. What do you like in this one? Yeah,
it definitely is.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
You've got to beat the teams you should beat and
then hang in with the other teams.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And either you've done that so far.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I do have concerns about Florida though, you know, the
back to back defending champions they've got not to a
nice three and want to start on the season. But
they've finally outscored the opposition by three goals. But you
know those games are at home. In the opposition was
Chicago Philadelphia. So far on the season soon they played
Chicago Philadelphia twice in Ottawa. That's not the best the
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conference has to offer, especially right now with the injury
in Ottawa. They'll probably lose more games than they were
hoping to at least. But with that Barkov, Kachuck, Nosik
and Kulikhov, you know this team is fighting an uphill battle.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yes, the names on.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The jerseys are still going to save Florida Panthers, and
they do have some good depth on this team, but
this is not the same team that's won the championship
the last two years. And I think because of the
all of their success, you know, you're paying a little
bit of a premium here, sort of like being in
LA or New York. When it comes to baseball, you're
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always going to play a premium for those teams. I
think Florida's earned the premium, no doubt about it. They've
been the best team the last two years, and they
have fared very well against this team. They've won that
of eleven in Detroit and overall they have dominated this series.
But you know, they are in the middle of a
second game of a five game road trip here, and
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if you take a look at Detroit, that would be
the team that would probably have this game.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Circle.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
If you've gotten beat up by a team for many
years and many times and now they come in really
banged up, you have to take advantage of that. And
Detroit right now, they're two to one on the season,
and they played the tougher competition. They played Montreal and
as you mentioned, they played Toronto twice. So this is
the first three straight at home for Detroit. I think
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this is a big game for them here and the
only problem I find is they've got Gibson in that
today against Bebrowski. Obviously, the host is in the negative
in that situation. Pebroski is much better than Gibson. But
if you look at Gibson's first game, a lot of
the problems he had or not of his own, make
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the defense just to not give him any help in
that game. So I'm lucky to play something with Detroit here,
either splitting the money line with the puck line. Normally
I just stick with the money line, but because they
have such a bad record against Florida, maybe the puck
line comes into that as well. Not willing to lay
the two hundred on the plus one and a half
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for a full you know, a full bet, but a
combination sort of like a minus one type of thing
you would do in baseball. I think that could get
you some money here. I prefer the Detroit side.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, Brian, you know Carmen and I talked about it
for years that we thought that Gibson needed to be moved,
like somebody had to grab Himccarlen was the one that
was all over it, like someone's got to go out
and get Gibson. But Craig, maybe this is a wrong
comparable here, And hopefully I'm wrong about this as well,
because this pitcher is starting Game four for the for
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the Blue Jays. But you know Max Shure's there was
once a great picture, but every pitcher loses their strength
and ends up having a bad er. Well, if you
wait too long to trade for John Gibson. His GAA
is going to be pretty bad. And so I kind
of worry that the Detroit Red Wings thought they solved
their problem by picking up John Gibson, and then all
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of a sudden, you know, it's like, hey, guys, do
you remember how old he is that you should have
traded for him three years ago? So I wanted to yeah,
you already touched on. I wanted to ask if that
was a problem for you. But the one thing that
stood out to me for this game that worried me,
I'm much. I don't I'm not trying to be the
Teddy Covers with the follow up question, but uh, the
the you know, the fact that Detroit and Toronto are
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so close to each other that you know how much
those games mean to Detroit to beat Toronto and those
back to back victories for them. You know, even though
it is a big game against Florida, does it worry
you at all that they were just like so up
for those games against Toronto.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No, I think it's too early in the season in
that regard. And and you know, I've never played professionally,
but I played softball for many, many years, and if
you play a team, you know that has your number,
and you look over at that sideline and these guys
that have killed you are not on that sideline. That
gives you the opportunity to say, hey, this is the
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chance for us to get there.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Who knows what's going to happen before the game or
when the game's played. But I don't see that as
a negative for Detroit here. I think it's a positive.
And you talked about the injury to Ottawa in that
first game, since we're talking about each other's games here,
with the injury to Kachuck on that team, is that
going to help the opposition's offense or from a defensive standpoint,
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do you think that makes a difference in that game?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Kar I mean, for me, I think it's going to
help the other team because he's so damn hard to
play against. I mean, he is just so hard to
play against. So it's it's similar to it's similar to
like Marner, honestly, even though Kitchuk is more of a
tougher guy and Maurner is more of a skills guy.
But people people don't often correlate forwards not being there
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anymore with defense. They just think defensemen mean defense. But
forwards have to play defense too, So it's a good
question we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I guess, Brian, Yeah, I think it's the leadership that
they end up missing in the end. You know, they've
got a lot of good guys in that dressing room,
but I think the leadership from that point is what
ends up Pertinum, you know what I mean? You know
the thing about you know you're looking at some teams
and you talk about, like you mentioned like scoring, Brian,
is you look at Detroit in their games thus far,
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and they've played what three games, They've created nine point
four x G, scored ten goals. So when I talked
about creating XG and following up with actually scoring the
amount of goals that you're creating, they're right there. They're
right in the line of they are doing exactly what
needs to be done and taking advantage of their chances.
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And I'll use another example is last night, for the
first time in NHL history, a team started the season
with three straight shutouts on home ice. The New York
Rangers have not scored a goal in three games at home.
But if you've watched the games, and I have their game,
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the game against the others, they played extremely well, probably
one of their best games they've played. The game prior
to that, they looked good. The Rangers have created at
home in three games nine point two eight of XG
and have zero goals scored. Now, it's easy to write
off the Rangers and say this team is terrible because
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you bet on it. So you get frustrated and you
see they're not scoring and it pisses you off even more.
This is where I talk about a team that at
some point is going to break out, and you've got
to keep an eye on it because the minute they
start to score some goals, the gap between the XG
created and the goals actually scored is going to shorten thoughts. Brian, Yeah,
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I agree.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
They they are much better team than what you have
seen out of the actual results. I almost got there
with Edmonton yesterday and I saw, you know, I pay
a lot of attention to the short books. They had
the best line right before game time. I think they
were laying one sixteen or something or one nineteen on
Edmonton on the road, where a lot of places were
at one thirty five. And I don't think Pinnacle is
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the NHL go to source when it comes to wisekuy action,
but to lay that, they were a good six points
or six cents off of any other place across there,
so they were looking for some some money on the
road visitor there Edmonton, and I wish I had gotten
in enough to early enough to get part of that.
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But yeah, it's they're a very good team, they're injury
a very good team, and you're going to find this
somethingce in a while. They'll go on the road, they
score seven goals, I'm home score zero and I think
in the long run it all evens out when you
look at home road in that situation, especially it's a
veteran team.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah. I was joking around with Andrew this morning, uh
and talking about the Anaheim game last night and uh,
and they're winning against Pittsburgh on the lead power play goal.
I'm like, Chris Kreider got the game winning goal. Man.
The Rangers could really use a guy like Chris Kreder.
But who knows what happens in New York what happens.
It's kind of like what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas,
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except for like, uh, whatever menial diseases those well stop
that's why with that said, tell Us what you have
up at wager talk and any promos that you want
to toss out there.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah, I don't know if I'll get anywhere. In hockey today,
all the numbers are pretty close to the way I
made it. The one I gave is probably I'll probably
use that as a free play.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
In baseball, I.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Do have a play up there right now, and we've
been very good in baseball this year obviously.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
And then the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I think we're up about thirteen net units yet so far,
and I've got a nice three star play up there,
three unit play in Major League Baseball and once again
number one in the history of wager talk in hockey
and Major League Baseball net profit. But I love the show.
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I love the way you guys are going over the games,
and I just wanted to make it. The reason why
I asked about the Cacheck thing was I thought his
physicality would help the Buffalo offense a little bit because
they don't have to worry about that. And Andrew had
already mentioned he kind of liked them to be able
to score. That's something I also like in hockey today.
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Maybe the Buffalo team total.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Over and we had a comment saying how well that
Buffalo has actually done I think five and one last
six against Ottawa, so hey, maybe it's a day for
them to find their offense.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
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part about this is that three people can look at
a game, look at it different ways, and come up
with different picks, and that's what makes it so awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So good to see as always, Brian.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Thank you, good luck, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Carm Yeah, Andrew, you know, if you I and Brian
were running the Buffalo Sabers organization. I think we can
get him into the playoffs, or at the very least
just bet every single over in the game, because I'd
be pulling the goalie in the third period and playing
the whole third period six on five. But that said,
let's head to a game Andrew in Saint Louis Blues.
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Look at this price. Man, the Blues I cashed on
a play, the play of the day with them at
plus one o two plus one oh four, but minus
two thirty two here against the Chicago Blackhawks. Plus one
eighty seven is the take back on the Hawks. Total
sits here at five and a half. Give me your
thoughts on this one.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
My thoughts are, what the hell is going on with
this price here? That's my thought.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean, this is just a little bit of a
number here that I don't know if I want to
really be involved in when it comes down to it.
I mean, looking at this game, I'm tempted to play
the Chicago Blackhawks in this spot.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I really am.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And you know you got the Blackhawks coming off that
three to one victory. You know you have this Saint
Louis Blues team the last two games for them, it's
looked like a breeze.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Called that great one for them against the Vancouver Canucks.
They beat the Calvy Flames. I mean they didn't look
good in their first game, they got slapped around five
ways all game long against the Minnesota Wild. Since then,
they've looked pretty good and they're really well coached with
Jim Montgomery. And you know what, as situational cappers, I
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mean you can really say, oh, maybe there's no such
thing as flat spots or look aheads and all that
stuff early in the season. I think we can all
agree though, that there are some games that mean more
than others. And I think I don't want to compare
the two teams, but a lot of people came into
Montreal last year Carmen didn't take them serious, and people
are saying now the Canadians are going to have more
of a target on their back. Well, I think Chicago's
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going to be that team that might catch teams off guard.
They're better than they were last year, but no one's
going to really take them serious. So I'm looking at
maybe a Chicago first period money line. Maybe we'll get
some goals from them early on, and the best part
is here, Maybe I don't have it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
In me to play the full game money line car.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Maybe I just don't have the stones to do that,
if we're allowed to say that on Wager Talk programming.
But I think I want to look at the first
period team total over I'm trying to get the number here,
but I can't find it while I'm alive on the show.
Here we go minus won twenty, so I know we're
turning a plus price into minus here. But the first
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period money line is plus one sixty and the first
period team total over a half goal is minus one twenty.
So kind of interested in that. We're pretty much banking
on a good twenty minutes out of the Chicago Blackhawks.
You cash the ticket with the Blues last time out,
carm Can they do it again?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think they're gonna win. I wouldn't play against the
Saint Louis Blues. They're just especially at home Andrew where
they're extremely tough. Like you know, they lost that game too.
I think it was to Minnesota, which snapped fifteen fifteen
game or more win streak on home ice. They play
so well at home, defend at home, make it tough
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for teams that are coming in to beat you, and
you're going to make the playoffs if you can win
some on the road, but you win the majority of
your games at home, and that's how you get into
the playoffs. All the good teams do it, and the
Saint Louis Blues were doing it at the end of
last season and even in the playoffs, where they won
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their games at home. So you know, with that said,
it's tough to go against them. Do I want to
take the two thirty two? Likely not. I would think
that if you were dead set I'm playing this game,
and I'm not trying to advocate parlays or what have you,
but you probably take the two teams I believe should
win tonight, which is the Blues and Utah. And I'm
not sure if that two thirty two and two twenty
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seven can pretty much get you even money or not.
I was just about to calculate that right now. I
think it's too early in the season to start delving
into like puck lines just because we're seeing you know,
someone asked me about the puck line and the Leafs
game yesterday, and I said I wouldn't take it until
the Leafs start to gel as a team. Now, these
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courts having goals, but there were some empty netters mixed
in there as as well too, and again against a
backup goalie and Justin nin and so we shall see.
But I am shining away from from any puck lines
right now. Maybe this is that game is a complete
pass for me on Saint Louis. But if you're gonna
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take it, if you want to bet, I want, I
have an astex so so my lean guys, I'm gonna
say it is. I'm going to pass on the game.
But if you do want to take it, I would
think the Blues in Utah, which we're going to discuss
next as a two teamer, is probably a good idea
if you can get even money on it. Here's my
question for Andrew Yep, sorry, go ahead. No is Connor Berdard.
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We are into what season three of Connor Bdard. He
was supposed to he was supposed to be and I
get it's the Chicago Blackhawks and not a lot of
talent on that team throughout the lineup, even though they
do have some players. He was supposed to be the
next generational player, the talent, the next uh Connor McDavid,
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the next Nate McKinnon hasn't come to fruition as of yet.
And do you think it's because of where he is
in that with that organization.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, some people think that he can't drive a line himself,
and you know, I've actually heard rumbling some people think
he'd be better off as a winger than a centerman.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So it's tough.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But when you look at the for the Blackhawks, it
also makes you question, like, hey, is this lineup good enough?
Are they surrounding him with enough talent? But every single
player should be able to create goals on their own
if you're a number one draft pick, if you're a
number one guy. I feel bad for him because you
know what, last year, Macklin CELEBRAINI comes into the league
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car and every single Canadian was like, oh no, this
young kid is better. If one player should be on
the Olympic team, it should be Maclin and not Connor.
It's tough because I kind of compare like San Jose
and Chicago like the same team, except for I think San.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Jose is doing the rebuild the right way.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I mean right now that both teams have a ton
of talent around them. This year, Chicago was a lot
more talented than they were last year. But I think
that mentality wise, Connor just needs to see other guys
around him do better, like Ryan Donado and Frank Nazar
and some of those guys being around will will certainly
help him out. But we'll see Carl because they need
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him to be the All Star that he is. You know,
he didn't he didn't sign a deal this year, right,
You Typically you sign a deal going into your final
year of your contract. He didn't do that, so obviously
they're going to sign him. But he's trying to put
on a showcase and absolutely, you know, sign the bag.
So we'll see what ends up happening here. If you haven't,
do you have any more comments on that? If not,
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I got a funny graphic I want to bring up.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Okay, so yeah, So my only comment is is this
is uh the guy. He's got a talent. I don't
think it's been completely unleashed the way it's supposed to. Uh,
it's it's going to be. Uh it might take a
couple of years. I don't even think Andrew. I'm gonna
go as far as saying I don't even believe he
is going to be on Team Canada's Olympic roster. I
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don't see. I don't see it. Maybe the next one
around I see in uh, you know, the four years
time or what have you. But I just don't see
him making the key the team Canada. And that's a
hard thing for a guy that young and with that
much talent. And then one quick note that partly pays
one oh six plus one o six. So if you're
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taking the Saint Louis Blues and Utah and that's at
minus two thirty two and minus two twenty seven, which
are the consensus numbers right now. I will say this, guys,
if partleys are hard to hit, it's tough enough to
pick one game, never mind two or three or four.
If you're gonna play one, don't lay vig. You should
always be getting plus money back because if you have
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to pick multiple legs two or more and you're laying viig,
you are just going to destroy your bankroll.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Anyways, Yeah, it's not good good, all right, Carmen. It's
not really that serious.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
But because I get to control things behind the scenes today,
which is why you've seen some mishaps so far, I
thought I would bring this up, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
You'd be able to get a laugh at it with me. Here.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh that's the wrong Brad graphics. See there we go.
We're already messing up. We're already messing up. Hold on,
bear with me, everybody, hold on, bear with me, hold on,
see if we can get this going all right. All
I wanted to do was make fun of the may
police for a second. It's all I really wanted to do.
And I saw so many people tweeting last night, like
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Matthews is back, Matthews is back, William neelanders back.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Look at this stat. Matthews and Neelander.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Combined four goals on an empty net and only one
goal on a goalie. Everybody is saying, Wow, they're gonna
be just fine without Mitch Murner. Yeah, they're gonna be
just fine without Mitch Murner when there's no goalie in
the net. So you Leaf fans, just remember that they
scored seven goals yesterday and the only two goals these
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guys scored well empty net goals. And yeah, Matthews scored
another one, but it was just a tap in anyway.
That's that's my shot of the day at the maple
Leafe carme. I know you don't want me to get
off track, but I thought this was hilarious. Four goals
combined on an empty net and just one goal on
an actual goalie.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, Andrew, I'm I'm shocked that you would take a
shot at the TORONTOAE beliefs like I would never do
anything like that personally, you know, I mean I I
My favorite team is the one that I have money
on on any given night, and sometimes it's multiple teams,
much like tonight, because I got have three plays up
for clients. Uh, and it'll be it'll show up on
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my page shortly after the show. But let's talk about
the Calgary Flames and Utah here and this is going
to be my bank role building play of the day.
So I will start with that, Andrew, and then I'll
go to you for your thoughts. So someone had asked,
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I think a pocket sunshine, you're going for half of
your normal size. So I every bet and every month,
I will, I will, Andrew, every The plan is this,
every month, I will look at what the new ending
balance is and that becomes the new starting balance, and
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then it'll be like four percent of that new amount,
but it's a four percent of the original starting bank role, right, now,
which was five k. So they're all two hundred dollars
flat bets, like last night was two hundred to win
one three. If it is a prop bet, I cut
it in half and it's just a flat one hundred
dollars prop bet. So with that said, let's get this
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ready because I'm going to use this one Andrew as
a short on our YouTube channel. But today's play of
the day is not the guy with the big forehead there.
Let's try this again. Today's play of the day is
none other than the Utah Mammoth team total over three
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and a half minus one thirty. Current bank role is
fifty three four eight, so just a flap of one
hundred at odds of minus one thirty. There are lower
prices out there. All my prices are coming from the
same book. It's one thirteen at some places, one thirty
at DK. So that's what price I'm going to use,
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and I'll explain to you why I'm taking this play.
First of all, Utah beat Calgary all three meetings last season,
scoring five to five and three in those games the
second of a back to back for Calgary last year
nine games on the second of a back to back,
they win three and six and allowed an average of
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four goals exactly four goals per game in those ones.
And then the final one is it's Devin Cooley starting
goal for Calgary tonight. In his limited NHL career, he
has made six starts, allowed four or more goals in
four of those six starts, and allowed twenty five total
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goals in six starts. It looks like a very bad
spot for the Calgary Flames tonight off of a loss
last night to the Vegas Golden Knights in which they
blew a third period lead. Utah over three and a
half minus one thirty is your play of the day.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Andrew Calm, congrats on that great start man, that great
start to the bankroll builder.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Two great wins.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I'll tell you what that game last night a little
bit of a sweat, A little bit of a sweat,
but a fun game to watch there with the Anaheim
Ducks a real exciting team and as you mentioned to
Brian Man, if only the Rangers had a player like
Chris Pryder that can score the grease teams.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Did you before you give me your thoughts on this game,
did you see what the Anaheim Ducks did yesterday for
their home opener. They gave everyone those duck masks. I
absolutely love it. This is I wouldn't be walking, want
to be wanting. I wouldn't want to walk on a
dark street at night with five guys behind me with
those masks on. I can't run that fast, but in
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fear of getting mugged. But man, that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, Carl, I feel like you got to go all out,
especially if you're sort of a rebuilding team. But they're
not really a rebuilding team anymore. They've got faith they're
gonna be a lot better. I'll put it this way, guys.
This is the only playoff released so far, and I've
got props coming, but I'm not sure if I'm going
to have a side or total coming out besides this one.
So here it is. First period. Puck line is the
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move for me on this Utah team. I gave it
out on my show last night, The pre Scout ten
pm Eastern. We're live, we're going over games, we're giving picks,
and last night we were literally handicapping live on the show.
Didn't have all my picks together and we decided to
handicap together.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Shout out to occupancy. How's it going waiter talk.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Love the new pre Scout show talking about Detroit team
to little under two and a half.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Great stuff there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
For me, I am looking at the first period puck
line for Utah strictly because of that flat effort they
had against the Blackhawks car and this offense here is
gonna show up for their home opener at the Delta Center.
They're gonna get absolutely packed, a lot of noise in
that building. I think they're gonna get behind their team,
and the offensive weapons are gonna come ready to play.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And you talked about it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
This is a team that I'm really, really confident in that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Can bounce back off poor losses.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And when I look at this goaltending situation, to your point,
they've got a guy that allowed thirteen goals combined his
last two starts, and he hasn't started since like twenty
twenty four. So I'm confident here we'll get off to
a good start. Minus a half goal in the first
period plus one point fifteen for the Utah Mammoth. And
it's gonna get weird getting used to saying the Utah Mammoth.
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But I kind of like that logo, and I got
to give you credit for what you did there with
the bank roll play. They're getting the Mammoth up there.
It looks real good.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I would like to thank my friends at chat GPT
for doing those graphics for me. But Andrew, the other
day the Mammoth played the Nashville Predators. I saw a
tweet that said, congratulations to the NHL on your first
prehistoric meeting the NHL season, the Preds and the Mammoth.
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So that was pretty cool as well too. Someone made
a comment much earlier in the day about this buffalo
Bill's had. If they don't smarten up soon, it's going
to go on to the lower shelf and Sydney Crosby
is going to move over to to where we can
see him a little bit better. So, Andrew, three plays
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up for me in the NHL tonight. You get him
over at my page WT Dot buzz backslash CB. The
package will be up shortly in the next five minutes.
The plays are already loaded and NFL five percent play
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you can get ten dollars off of that play as
well too. Let's just see if we can keep on
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keep on putting some w's in the column for our clients.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Carm wishing you best of luck.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
And I think that with this read you had yesterday
on the Leafs over and one team scoring seven goals,
you're gonna go on a big run here. And I'm
excited as well about tonight's prop plays. Not really a
lot of sides and totals I love on tonight's slate,
but I do like a lot of props. Guys usually
do well in the preseason. Didn't do well in the
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preseason this year. Things didn't really go my way. We
dropped nine units in the preseason. But we're off to
a really good start as far as the NHL regular
season is concerned. This promo code is still active, guys.
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or WT Dot Buzz slash CB for Carmine guys, I'm
up twenty one unit already in NHL this regular season.
We're cash and tickets Vegas over three and a half
Washington Capital's money line. We got the first period puck
line with the Maple Leafs. It was a good day
on Tuesday. We'll manage the bank roll properly. We'll ride
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our way into a really good season. And I'm feeling
awesome off to a good start, and I think the
pre scouts helped me out a lot. Guys, look at
the games early ten pm Eastern every single night. You
guys can join me on my show and carm not tonight,
but tomorrow. Guess who's joining me. Chris Auto, the guy
with the awesome first period.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He right on the show. Yeah, I can't wait for that.
I can't wait for that.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
That's good. And uh, maybe you can get one of
the referees that officiated yesterday's Montreal Seattle game and on
the show and see, if you know, thank them for
giving you that unnecessary penalty that got you, guys the
tie against the Kracking. But you know, whatever aggress, what's
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the Savers win a game? I can talk.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, the Savers on the way to go oh and
eighty two. All right, that we'll do it for today, guys,
let's wrap up the show. Awesome, awesome stuff. If you're
watching on YouTube, hit the like button. We appreciate it.
Comment below let us know who you are betting on
this Wednesday night. Find Carmine at wager Talk, myself at
wager Talk, and always a special thanks to Brian Leonard
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for joining us here on punk time. Best of luck,
we'll see you guys next time, same time, same place,