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November 20, 2025 50 mins
The NHL is in full swing and so is PuckTime! Join Carmine, Andrew & Guests for PuckTime as we look at NHL picks and predictions for November 20, 2025!  What games should we be betting tonight? What totals show some betting value for Thursday? Find out LIVE on Pucktime, EVERY weekday at 11am!

Opening 00:00
Lawrence: Columbus Blue Jackets at Toronto Maple Leafs 5:30
Andrew/Carm:  New York Islanders at Detroit Red Wings
Bryan: Seattle Kraken at Chicago Blackhawks 21:55
Andrew/Carm:  New York Rangers at Colorado Avalanche 40:28
Carm's Pick Of the Day 43:12
Andrew's SGP 46:10
Mark as Played
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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I love Wednesday NHL best bets you will not want
to miss. We've got them right here on Puck Time,
here on wager Talk, TV, Sides Totals, Props, team totals.
It's a pretty good slate here on a Thursday. I'm
gonna break it down with you. Of course, I'm Andrew.
I've got Carmine the Pres and Brian Leonard with me

(00:20):
to break down all kinds of great games. Karm It
was a pretty good Wednesday slate. Kind of funny the
way it started with two games that were completely lobsided,
and then the late slate ended up having two very
very good games, both ending with the same score line
of four to three. So I'm feeling a bit tired

(00:40):
today after being up for that those late games. But
the Ducks keep on rolling, man, The Ducks get the
job done. And you and I said yesterday that as
much as the books were trying to tell us that
it was a kill spot for the Buffalo Sabers, those
flames they showed up. Just when we think the flames
weren't gonna show up, they showed up. Any quick thoughts

(01:03):
on last.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Night, Yeah, Firstly, I always check the free play section
because I will put up a play in the free
play section on NHL normally after put time if there's
something that pops up that I think is the right play.
And from an analytics point of view, I took Calgary
first period plus one fourteen and that cashed for anyone

(01:27):
who was checking out that site. And then the late games, yeah,
two very good ones. Cashed my Anaheim Boston bet in
the first six minutes of the game over one and
a half. I figured we'd see some goals. A little
disappointed the Minnesota or sorry the other game with Carolina,

(01:47):
I had under six in that game and just an
ugly goal sends it to overtime, tied at three. At
worst thought, I thought I could have ended up with
a push at four to two with an empty netter.
But one in one night for me, and I had
a five percent play for today. But I've taken it
down because there was an overnight line move that just

(02:08):
doesn't make it playable. It's out outside of my range
for that game. So that's it happens when you if
you buy it overnight, you got to play it overnight
because if the line moves the next day, you're you're
getting the worst of it instead of the best of it.
So that's a good thing about having an all access
package for NHL or even that ninety nine dollars ten

(02:30):
day package that we have up as well too. With
that said, we got a lot to talk about Andrew.
We're bringing in Lawrence. He's going to do Columbus and
the Toronto Mayple Leafs. Brian's going to do the Seattle
and Chicago game. You and I are going to talk
about Detroit and the New York Islanders, and then we're
going to finish it off with the Rangers in Colorado.

(02:52):
I'm not sure if you have the same game, Parlay.
I hope you do. And I've got a pod play
for tonight as well too. So with that said, let's
get right too. Let's get bringing the guy who cashed
his five percent play on the Leafs the mash Unit.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, easy winner, Easy winner. How you guys doing, brother,
Nice to be here, Hey, consistently getting over you guys
are consistently getting over three thousand views a day on
the show. I want to shout out to your listeners
because they are so loyal, but we do need more

(03:32):
comments in that comment section, guys. So that's my only complaint,
as one of the owners of wager Talk is I'm
loving what you guys are doing, but I need to
see some more comments. Christopher Ferrari, unknown M and M
count at fort ethan Og Jeffrey just put something up

(03:54):
in the comments for us.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Please, thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Sorry, guys, that is okay, You're right.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
We need more comments, man, we need more comments because
people are watching, they're liking, but the comments they're on
and off. They're on and off.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Algorithm.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, that stuff is that a lot of times people
comment it's negative, So everybody's just I don't care negative.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So we don't have anything negative going on. So that's
why no one's commented. So guys feel free to comments
some positive stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Call me a douche.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So who predicted William Leelander to score in overtime to
to bring your to resuscitate your five percent play and
turn it into a winner.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You did, carm I did I have proof on my
own as I was freaking out all game. I was
just so angry over that first goal that went in,
and you're like, don't worry, he's gonna score the overtime goal.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
To win it.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And you were right, and Yeah, that was an easy
winner for sure, but it's in the past. Let's move
on to today and Toronto is playing Columbus. This Toronto
team is sixteen and four to the over on the urine.
How interesting is that we would have thought they would
have been an underteam coming into this year. This is

(05:23):
a team that's really trying to change their style, more
of a trying to stop cycling and playing in circles,
more up and down, more for checking, more dirty corner work.
This is a team that we expected to be a
very good team defensively, same d unit as last year,

(05:46):
same goaltending tandem as last year, and they can't seek
to get out of their own way. And they went
over ten games in a row before they played Chicago,
and the last two games have both been three to
two hockey games, both playing to the under. So where
am I going here? I'm going to the under karm

(06:06):
and Andrew. I know that at sixteen and or we
should be betting overs, but I think that Toronto is
going to become an under team moving forward. I think
finally with Joseph wall back, they are a little bit
better settled in net. You know, Chicago put up thirty
two shots on them, came away with three goals. Saint
Louis put up twenty nine, came away with two. These

(06:28):
are the type of numbers that I think we're gonna
see on a regular basis. I think Toronto is going
to start averaging less than three goals a game. And
I think they're playing a Columbus team, you know, that
has their moments every now and again, they go out
and put up a four or five spot. But this
is a team that also is looking to play to

(06:48):
the under. They just put up two against Winnipeg one
against the Rangers. This is a team that has scored one, two,
three or five six out of eight games three or
less goals. I like the under here boys, and we're
getting six and a half, which is awesome. Protects us

(07:09):
from that empty net. I also think their a bet
should be made on the Leafs. Now. I know I'm
a homer, but I do think the Leafs are going
to get their act together. They lost five in a
row and frankly, we're lucky to win Saint Louis. I
feel like that Saint Louis game might propel them to
a couple of victories, and this Columbus team is not

(07:31):
very good, to say the least. That this team has
lost like six of their last eight games. So yeah,
I'm not high on the Leafs right now, but I
think this is a really good spot for them. I
like the Leafs that I like the under. Hope that
was an okay breakdown. Oh, the under is a client play.

(07:53):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, that was awfully nice of you to give this out.
These teams played before Halloween, I think the twenty ninth
of October, Columbus winning that game six to three. Now,
the Leaves were on a great run at the time
as far as over unders go, and that was just
another one that hit. The Leafs are currently sixteen and
four to the over but two of the last three

(08:16):
games of state under. A lot of that has to do, obviously,
with the injuries to this team. Austin Matthews being out
six and a half just seems I think you're right here.
Six and a half does seem a little high, especially
given that first game was six to three. Andrew and
we always talk about first game over, second game under.

(08:36):
We'll see if that actually applies here. I was a
little surprised that Columbus is actually taking money in this
one and our favorites in this one minus one point fifteen.
I'm seeing minus one oh six for the Leafs. Any
thoughts on that, press.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, I just told you I like the Leafs at
minus one oh six, and.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Any thoughts of why the number is where it is.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
No, it's shocking to me why it's based on the injuries.
That has to be the only reason. But I don't
think this Columbus team is a good team. And they're ten.
They're ten to eight and two on the season. I
think they're gonna go eight, ten and two in their
next maybe even worse. So I think we're getting the

(09:20):
leaf set of very very low market value. This is
why they deserve to be. They're all injured. Yeah, they're
all injured.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
This is why I thought that was the starting lineup.
I'm like, when did they put Anthony Stolart's on the
number one lineup?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
For Their center depth right now is just abysmal, Like
they have no center depth. And I think people won't realize,
but the two guys on the right, with Nicholas Wall
and Scott Lawton, those are probably two of the biggest
losses on this whole sheet. Hopefully nice can be back
tonight present. I'm not too sure what the deal is.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Those are the those are the biggest two losses. Not
Matthews or Tana or Nice, not those three, the other
two guys that nobody's heard of.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, exactly, that the people that the you know, the
diehards would know about. And I think that when you
look at it though, Look who scored the game winner
for the Leaps yet last game. Who assisted it? Tavares.
They're gonna need somebody besides those two players to make
something happen.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
A goal. Who Bobby McCann or a goal?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, I'll take that, guys.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I got to.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Promote and run and I apologize. I'm taping the best
betting show ever in a few minutes. I appreciate. I
really appreciate that you guys get me on a couple
of times a week. I love doing the show and
always will. I just want to really quickly make mention
that I'm on an absolute heater.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm on a tear. I am nine and two since
Monday in all, in all my bets, nine and two
in my bets, I'm on a huge NHL run.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Huge.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I got two customer plays up tonight you have one
of them. I'm on an eight and three NBA run.
I got an NBA play up tonight. But my NFL
is my NFL. Parlays and ATS bets are killing it,
and I have a huge ATS bet up for Sunday
and a parlay for tonight. So, guys, we got a

(11:28):
great promo up ninety nine dollars for the next ten
days of plays. Please use that on me. I'm really
seeing things well and I'm excited about the next ten
days anyway, Carmen Andrew, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I got a run though.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, listen, good luck with the taping of the second
best sports show around, because this is the best one,
but we wish.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
This is a hockey show. Anyway. I'm not arguing with you.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Bye, get him out of here, Dan, get him out
of here. I'd say, kind of like Jazz when you
get thrown out of the house on Fresh Prince of
bel Air. We've tossed pres off the show. Andrew, let's
give a shout out to Keaton or else. He's going
to keep repeating the same message over and over again
to him, and jumbo slice of pizza to him as

(12:16):
well too, and the other guy who d money. Do
not have a slice of pizza with pineapple on it?
That is just not right. Why don't you just put
a slice of watermelon on it as well too, while
you're at it. It's like, there's certain things that don't
belong on pizzas, and pineapple is one of them. I
talked to when I was in Italy Andrew for two
weeks earlier this year. I would talk to some of

(12:40):
the really good pizza places in Naples in Rome and
we joke around about pineapple, and they're like, if someone
comes in and asks for pineapple, he goes, We just
tossed him out of the store. It does not belong
on a pizza. It's funny, that's what they would say.
So with that said, we got Brian Leonard coming up soon.
But Andrew, let's talk about this New York and anders
Detroit Detroit minus one thirty five the Islanitors plus one

(13:03):
point fifteen another one of those spots total six here.
I get it. The Isiters are playing well. At some point,
They're starting to show a little bit of regression on
this team. I'm liking Detroit here, I'm just not sure
it won thirty five seasons about the right price. If
this goes up any higher, I probably stay off of it.

(13:24):
It's just because the Islanders can score goals. I've shown
they can score goals in their games this year as
they've been a pretty good team and they are number
ones in goal tonight. Eli Sarokan is confirmed for the game.
John Gibson confirmed for Detroit. But I like the Wings.
I like the game that they played at I think

(13:46):
it was their last home game. Andrew it's Wings for me.
What about you, Yeckharam.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'll tell you I don't really love this game because
this Islanders team is a team that I just really
don't want to go against right now. But if you
look at all the city situational spots, like it kind
of tells us that we should be going against them,
you know, just looking at the travel situation, looking at
some of the metrics, look at how that they've kind
of gotten worse as every road game has gone on.

(14:13):
So kind of want to go against them. But this
team keeps on playing really quality hockey. So what I'm
gonna do is go back on the first period over now.
I lost on the first period over in the Islanders
and Dallas game, and immediately we ended up seeing goals
in that second period and the game ended up almost
getting there as far as the full game is concerned.

(14:35):
But this is the last game of the road trip.
It has been a busy road trip for them. And
taking a look at some of these games that they've
played against the Mammoth, against the Avalanche, against the Stars,
even the games that haven't gone over and it's been
pretty much all of them but one, there's been a
ton of pace and a ton of scoring chances for

(14:55):
both teams. And when I look at that last game
against the Stars, game ended the first period ended zero zero,
but there were a ton of chances. And I think
that this is going to be one of those games
that is the last game of the road trip that
does see some sloppiness, that does see the fatigue, the
jet lag, whatever you want to call it. They've been

(15:15):
traveling around a little bit here and every now and then,
carm you see some travel situations that don't really bug
you too much. Right, A team plays against the Sharks,
the Ducks, the Kings, Okay, you're not too worried about.
A team plays against the Canadians, the Senators, and you
know the maple leafs. You're not too worried about it,

(15:36):
but this is kind of some unique traveling here for
this Islanders team. Now I'm no geography expert, but I
like to think I know a little bit about where
every place is and I think that this has been
a little bit of a travel spot here for this
Islanders team. And you know, they could be a little
bit fatigue now looking at this Red Wings team. Their
offense is clicking. They're scoring goals right now. Mason Raymond

(16:00):
and Dylan Larkin, the top guns are playing well. They're
getting scoring from the from the third fourth liners as well. So, guys,
when you lose on a bet, sometimes it's okay to
go back to it. I lost on a New York
Islanders first period over one and a half, and hey,
I'm going right back to it tonight here, karm So
could be a good player prop game as well. Look

(16:21):
at some of those post on X if I do
have any of they are not in the same game parlay,
But I'm rolling the dice with the first period over
zero zero first period last game for the Islanders. I'm
thinking that changes here in tonight's game here, Karen.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, you know the one thing. You know, I look
at it's been a very good road trip for them,
obviously for the New York Islanders. And you know, I've
liked betting on this team this season, and I think
I've picked I picked the right spots on betting the Islanders.
You know, when I look at my dad as sheet
as far as profitability, and it's been good with the Islanders.

(16:58):
So one thing, Andrew is, you know, it's the end
of the road trip, and you know, you look at
despite a five to one record, they have allowed teams
just a high x G number pretty much in every
single game. I think the total across those six games
is about nineteen. But you look at it, you go

(17:19):
five back and with their first one and I'm just
having a quick look at it here. Okay, so last
game against the Stars two point sixty five. Okay, that's
the lowest one on the board. Three eleven, three twenty seven,
five four five. At some point, their goaltending isn't going

(17:40):
to keep those chances out. And I know it's soroken
for them tonight, but at some point the goals against
them are going to start to go in. And that's
when we start we sort of see that the script
gets flipped andrew and they go into a bit of
a tailspin. Does it happen here in Detroit? Well, Detroit's
three to zero to one their last four games should
probably be four to o their last four games because

(18:03):
they blew that lead to the Buffalo Sabers and allowed
the Sabers to come back and win that game five,
four and overtime at Little Caesars. So it's just one
of the ways that I'm looking at this game and
why I'm leaning Detroit's wave. Detroit can get some scoring going,
They'll keep this nice little run that they have going
and collecting some points. So it's the Red Wings for me, thoughts.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I don't blame you. I don't blame you. I want
to get to the window with the Red Wings as well.
Just with this out way the Islanders are playing, it's
kind of holding me back a little bit here. But yeah,
I got to give respect to the Red Wings. I
think they do deserve this tag and maybe we will
see some regression from this Islanders team. Also, let me
see if I'm gonna do what you just did it,
I'm gonna try and pull something up while we're live

(18:49):
on the show, shooting percentage on all shot attempts. And
when you look at this number, like this Islanders team,
they start the season off on a really, really good note.
Now in the last ten games, they're really starting to
shift back. They're at ninth, they're at twenty now, you know, so, Car,

(19:10):
things for them were they were like top ten to
start the season out. Every single time they shot, or
every third or fourth game or goal shot they put
on net was scoring. It was crazy. And now things
are starting to level out. And that's one stat that
I look at quite a bit guys in the analytics department,
is shooting percentage on all shot attempts. And I think

(19:34):
we're gonna start to see things fade out a little
bit for them, just hopefully not in the first period. Car.
I don't mind if it's two nothing. I don't mind
if it's three nothing for the Red Wings or two
to one, but let's just cast that first period over
for me. So that's all I got in this game.
Shout out to my guy NHL All Star Bets. He
went to the Canes and Wild game yesterday. We were

(19:54):
on a video together actually a couple of days ago.
That is awesome, except for I will tell you the
wild where a client play for me, and I waited
until the number got higher because the money was coming
in on the Canes. I got the plus one fifty.
They blew a two to nothing lead. Caren, this team
has more than one goalie now, they have Philip Gustavson

(20:16):
and Walstead. Walstead was unbelievable last night, So shout out
to him for seeing that one.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, it was a good game until it wasn't. Unfortunately.
You know, I was joking around this morning with Prez
about that Minnesota game, the Minnesota game, and it's like,
if you saw the end of that game. Obviously, the
Canes tied up with about a minute and six seconds
left on the clock. The puck goes through Walstad, and
Walstead was very good last night. I really liked this

(20:47):
goalie for Minnesota. But it goes between his legs and
it's kind of rattling around the pads and then slowly,
kind of like a curling shot, just goes over the
over the goal line before one of the Minnesota's defensemen
could sort of knock it back between his thing. If
I needed that goal, because I had over six, that

(21:10):
thing doesn't go in, I get it I'm giving you
an opinion as a better because we always look at
and we're like, oh, it is the worst puck luck ever.
I should have hit it, I should have gone to
and oh I should have had a better night's sleep
than I did. But yeah, one in one day. I'm
not happy about it. Congrats to the over betters. You

(21:34):
got one that brutally shouldn't have. Yeah, it's uh. We
talk about puck luck and I did fall asleep. Eventually.
All I did was have a shot of Bailey's. Speaking
of a shot of Bailey's, it is time for Brian Leonard.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
What's up? Brian?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
There?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He is? How you're doing? You're wondering how I was
going to segue in with that shot at Bailey's. Huh,
bright power tower things. Man, everything is great.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
It wouldn't be a Thursday show without Press coming in,
liking the Toronto Maple Leaves and Carmine talking about how
bad pineapple pizza is and I kind of disagree. Well,
I know I disagree with the pineapple pizza. I love
pineapple pizza. For a guy who eats a lot of
meat on his pizza, it's a nice change to get

(22:22):
a green pepper on there everyone once in a while
or a pineapple. But yeah, everything's going great. Had a
big five percent winter yesterday on the Washington Capitals and
about a four percent going today. Hockey has been great,
eleven or four run college bat. Everything's been great right now.
So very excited for this upcoming schedule and hopefully we

(22:43):
can get you some winters today.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Kretz. Congratulations. I didn't
even know you had a five percent plate.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, and what a way to bounce back, Brian.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Andrew, Andrew, you get it? Andrew, did you get a
text message?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, my phone. My phone's not working, Brian. I guess
it's long distance. He couldn't text me.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
I would have led, you know, but I didn't decide
until I was intercepted at the border to make sure
I was going to be able to keep that number
because you said like you said, Carma, and you lost
your number, and I didn't want to give out a
play that people couldn't bet into.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
So it worked out well. Unfortunately i'd lost my previous
five percent, so I was able to get that back
for people.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, congratulations and nonetheless, and I'll just mention quickly because
he is one of our regular guests as well. To
don Buster has a five percent play up I believe
in the NHL tonight, So you can find that over
on his page, and then we'll talk about a little
later on. But Andrew, who's been killing NFL props as
an NFL five percent play up for tonight. But Brian,

(23:39):
you know, I look at this one. It's such an
intriguing game. The Blackhawks are playing some fun hockey there.
It's fun to watch the Hawks play minus one thirteen,
Seattle's one oh seven. The total sits here like five
and a half, and you would normally think the way
some of these teams are playing that that five and
a half seems a low. But I think it's right

(24:02):
where it should be. I think Chicago's playing better defensively.
I'm not sure where you're gonna go with this one,
so I have no idea, but I'm loving the fact
that the young kids, you know, like Celebrini and Connor
Berdard now are starting to make their stamp in the NHL.
They are starting to play extremely well. Because I'd be

(24:23):
one of those guys that Connor Berdard Andrew. You know this,
I've said it to you many times, Connor Berdard, it
seems to be wasting away in Chicago, but that's not
happening anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, they finally got some guys around him. I don't
care what sport it is. It's not like the NBA
where you can be on a bad team and put
up thirty ten and eight like it's you need good
players around you. I don't care what it is like.
You just need to have some good players around you.
So nice to have that for Badard for sure. And
the black Hawks are more exciting. Brian, I'm gonna ask
you this. I know they're not comparable, and I I

(25:00):
have no clue what your play is on this game.
But I said coming into the year that I thought
everyone was going to be in love with the Ducks.
And it's so far, so good. It's worked out for everybody.
And I finally jumped in on the fun last night.
I was tired of missing out. Do you feel that
sort of the same thing's going to start to happen
in the Chicago Blackhawks in this particular situation like this

(25:22):
has opened up as a pick. Do you feel like
we're going to start seeing people in love with this
Blackhawks team? As well.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I don't think so. I was on here on Tuesday,
I believe was the last time I was a guest
and I used Chicago, I believe that day, and it
was a nice play for us. And you know, once again,
I'm finding value on the Chicago Blackhawks. You know, as
we see a young team gaining confidence and backing it
up with consistent play on the ice, and you know,

(25:50):
you take a look at what Chicago's done this season.
They ever played with a fifteen plus fifteen net scoring
advantage on the season, which is actually second best in
the Western Conference behind Colorado. You would sit at the
bar and you would ask somebody that question. Nobody would
get there, right. They didn't expect it. But they've had
a terrific season. They're six to two and two in
the past ten games, so it's not like they're fading

(26:12):
at all right now. And you know, the Blackhawks have
played more games on the road than they have at
home this year, and they played just once in the
last four days. So they're come into this game rested
and they're looking to end their four game homestand and
Chicago travels to Buffalo tomorrow and then they come right
back to Chicago and play four more games at home.
So the scheduling advantage here for Chicago is very strong.

(26:35):
And when you take a look at Seattle, you know
they've played ten of the nineteen games at home, but
their minus three in that gold differential. They are only
four three and three in their last ten games, and
they've won just three games on the road all season,
only once in regulation. And we're getting basically a pick
them line here. This is similar to the game I
used the other day and I said, there's no way

(26:56):
just Chicago should be in this price range. And because
of that, I think getting value again on Chicago here,
just because the last few years they haven't been very good.
In fact, they've been bad. But you know you mentioned Anaheim.
I'm not giving up on Anaheim. Look at the teams
they beat when they were on their winning streak. They
were bidding the best teams in the NHL. I still

(27:17):
think this team's going to be very good come the
end of the season. I think they're gonna be a
playoff team. So a lot of these teams this year
that have not performed well in the past. San Jose's
made us money all season long just because you were
good in the past does not mean you're going to
be good every year. And that's the one thing I
like about baseball and hockey is you fight a lot

(27:37):
of these teams before that they've just got great camaraderie
in the locker room, and those are the teams are
looking to bet on, and you know these veteran clubs
that have been there before. Yeah, a lot of times
it's injuries. You know, Florida's got injuries right now. A
lot of teams got have injuries Toronto, as was mentioned.
But you've got to play with the guys that are

(27:59):
on the ice and rather play a team in Chicago's
playing with a lot of confidence, playing at home, with
a better scheduling situation, and you're getting them in a
near picking price.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah it, Brian, it's a little surprising to me that
the price is where it is. I would have thought
it's not going to be that much higher. But I
would have thought overnight we'd see some movement in Chicago
and they probably be somewhere in a one twenty five
range one thirteen. And I know a lot of guys
will probably think, well, there's no real big difference between

(28:31):
one twenty five and one thirteen. But over the course
of a year, if you're laying one twenty five instead
of one thirteen on every single bet you make, it
is tough. You have to hit a higher percentage, a
much higher percentage to ecote the same profit then at
playing a game at one thirteen. That's why you know,

(28:53):
you look at NFL sides and you find books that
have like eight cent lines. That's where you want to
be betting. If the number the same, you're betting because
you have multiple outs and you're getting the best price
and best big price. Uh with that, Brian, you know, Uh,
Dave the late great, the late great Dave Cocaine, you know,

(29:14):
we used we used to talk about this during the season,
and this was when he was down in Florida and
he was just a backup to Verbrovsky. But I think
this is before the Cup runs for Florida. But Lebroski
wasn't having a good time of it, and Cocaine and
I had the same opinion. Spencer Night is the goalie

(29:35):
of the future for Florida. Didn't turn out that way.
He was still a very good goalie there, but he's
he's showing his worth right now. He really is showing
his worth with with Chicago, and he's the projected started
tonight against Joey Decord.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, you get a lot of guys that look great
once season and terrible the next. Something clicks for him.
I don't know if it's the coaching or just the experience.
I've seen it enough, so yeah, I I you know,
I've talked in the past. At least the way I
look at it, there's probably four five legit eight, you know,
cass and hockey for goalies that are there every year.

(30:13):
But every other year everything is up and down, up
and down, and if a guy's feeling it, you can
ride that. So yeah, it's the goalies don't make as
much difference to me. And uh, well, we'll look at
look at Edmonton. How many times, how many different goalies
they brought in there and none of them, none of
them work. It's just not the goalies and Edmonton.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's that defense.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
From a prop perspective. In this one, the number isn't
out yet, but I mentioned this on my show I
recorded last night. Spencer Knight has been going over on
his saves at a really high clip. He's been bailing
his team out, but he's such a good goalie that
it's not really going anywhere. He's just that good. But

(30:56):
Seattle is thirty thirtieth or thirty first in the league.
Don't quote me, guys here thirtieth or thirty first in
shots on goal per game. So a lot of people
love betting save prop overs, but this is one that
I actually isolated could be a save prop under, and
I've been diving more into these props for goalies, whether

(31:19):
it's specific goals against, like here's a good example, Like
there's some games where a team will have not one
but two empty net goals. So if you want to
take like a team total under or team total over
for a team, you can actually take a specific goalie
under over this many goals allowed or this many saves,

(31:41):
so not what you don't have to worry about what
ended up happening if the net is pulled or whatever
it might be. But if you guys can get somewhere
around the twenty five to twenty six and a half
number for Spencer Night today, I'm going with the under
on save prop. Just wanted to mention that there, guys,
but it's kind of interesting. Hopefully they don't need to
rely on him too much night, Brian.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, and someone asking I think it was GC the third.
I think that's GC the third. If it's the Chords
first came back. He did miss five games obviously with
the injury, but he did play in that loss to
the Detroit Red Wings a couple of days ago, so
he's had two days off since that was the eighteenth,
so he's had one day off. Should be fine. They

(32:25):
wouldn't list them. And as I said, if you're a
goalie dependent better and it's something that Dave Cocaine. I
think that's why he kind of hated doing the show
so early in the mornings Monday to Friday, was that
he likes to see the goaltender, so he would put
his plays out a little later, but also makes it
tougher to comment on them as as well too. The

(32:47):
quick before we get what's going on with Brian, a
quick note to one of the guys in our comment section, Jeffrey. Jeffrey,
there's gonna be a lot of chatter on this show.
We get our picks in the show's thirty forty minutes.
We're going to a preview four or five games, give
you a pod, give you the same game, parlay If
you need games real fast, there's probably other shows, but

(33:12):
stick around because the thought process is what's more important.
How we get to a game, whether you agree with
it or not, it's the thought process that you should
be learning from and saying, Okay, well, I can see
where they're coming from here, I can see what sites
that they're using and to help that formulate it. If
you need six picks and sixty seconds, tune in on

(33:32):
Fridays for six and sixty. But sometimes you have to
embrace the chaos. Now, Andrew, I'm going to put you
to the test. Embrace the chaos. Where does that line
come from?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I have no idea, no idea.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Come on, man, this is your type of movie. You
would pay to go watch this movie.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I wonder if I'm going to know what movie it is?
What is it?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Hot Tub time Machine?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, okay, I actually ano that movie.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Embrace the chaos, Brian, you're embracing the chaos. What do
you have to promote? Waed your talk?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
By the way, I was in the front I was
in the front row with my brother in law for
that movie, and I was falling on the floor in
that bathroom saying I just great overall, movie Love of Fun. Yeah,
I talked about how well we're doing and everything. We're
on the twenty two and seven overall run, twelve and
four college basketball, number one in net profit and college basketball,

(34:31):
college football, the last seven weeks eleven and four run
in hockey, twelve and six, NBA thirty three and sixteen
college football. So needless to say, it was talked about
earlier when pres was on here, the ten day Special
or the Weekend Warrior Special. It's a great way to
get all of our selections right now. I've got an

(34:52):
NFL play, I've got an NBA play, I've got a
hockey play up and you can get all those for
those great prices. It's a really great way to save
some money. I do want to mention we haven't talked
about the Edmonton Tampa Bay game on today's card, but
look at that Edmonton schedule. I think that has got
to be the one of the worst scheduling spots.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
That I have seen in years.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
They've really put it taken it to the Edmonton Oilers
on this trip. So I put that up as my
free play today. If you want to check the free
plays up on the site, you can go there right now,
and you get a lot of free plays in all sports,
and it doesn't take you a lot of time to
do it, so you could save some time and money
by looking at that. But yeah, I've got a free
play on that, and I think that's got a pretty

(35:39):
good chance of cashingals as well on today's card.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, those they're not be The schedule makers haven't been
friendly to the Edmonton Oiers. I think every team's going
to go through it at some point, probably when I
do a lot of these advanced look aheads and stuff.
And it's just because of the Olympic break, we're going
to see some congested schedules. We're gona see some three
and four nights, four and six nights, some five and sevens,
and you're like, how are these teams even lasting? You

(36:05):
know the five and sevens happened because you play a
majority of the games at home, and then you if
you're an East coast team, it's a quick East coast
trip let's say New Jersey to New York type of
thing through the tunnel and what have you. But yeah,
there's as Betters is recognizing it, not just looking at
the odds board and saying okay, well, I like this.

(36:27):
Look at the situations some of these teams are in
and you can find a few little gems. So hopefully
that works out. Brian, we always love having you on here. Man.
You have a four percent play up for tonight. We
wish you the best of luck with it, knock it
out of the ballpark, and we hope to see you
on more often.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I appreciate it, and good luck to everyone on the
five percent place today.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Andrew, you have a five percent place tonight. You and
I are also going to talk the New York Rangers
and Colorado. I'm going out tonight. I haven't been out
in a while. It sounds like I'm the guy in
the penitentiary, but I'm not. I've just been a homebody
of late. I just like staying home when it's cold.
You would think as a Canadian, I'm a woos As

(37:11):
a Canadian, I don't want to be out in the cold.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I'm the worst with it too. I hate it. I
hate it. Look that's why I'm wearing this sweater today.
I just got this sweater like two weeks ago. I'd
never used to wear camo, and now I'm wearing this
comfy oft sweater. I have right now.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I've got the wager Talk hoodie that Kelly in Vegas
sent to me. Very appreciative of that. But yeah, I
went out to get the snow tires done and that's
about it. I don't even know why I put them
on because I don't feel like driving. I'm just gonna
take Ubers everywhere I go because the vehicle shows up warm.
But you have a five percent play up in the NFL.

(37:47):
Just tell us about it real quickly before we get
to this next game and then the same game parlays
and the pod play.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, carm On, I am pretty good run in the
in the NFL, and and pretty much I've stopped it
with the sides. I pretty much haven't been given out totals.
It's just been the player props long term plus thirty
three unit run twelve and three short term, twenty two
and eight long term. It's been really really good with
the NFL player props. Prime time has treated me very

(38:17):
well as well. We cashed an easy ticket on a
Monday night and we're back again, except for it's a
five percent play tonight. Texans and Bills got a promo
code for you guys to use right here. Promo code
is save fifteen, Save fifteen. We'll take fifteen dollars off,
pretty self explanatory. Get you guys the five percent play
for just twenty bucks. So we've got long term deals

(38:40):
going right now. We've got the one year special, We've
got ninety days specials, We've got all kinds of stuff
going on. But if you guys are interested in this
one play alone, which is my favorite play of the
week in the NFL, favorite play of the day. Really,
no four percent plays for me in NHL today, just
three percent and two percent. So you want my best
bet in NFL action as I'm plus thirty three unit

(39:01):
run in the NFL prop department. You know, it always
makes me laugh because I know that some people will say, well,
I don't want a prop, I want a side or
a total. So I guess they're just choosing how they
want to make money. Because the props to me have
been the most profitable so far this season. We can
all be like you, karm and going five and zero
with our sides every week. Props have been my thing.

(39:24):
So five percent play save fifteen and just ride with
me with the props. We've been doing pretty good on
props and parlays with Andy Lang on Monday, so you
guys can check out that show as well. Karm, Look,
if if I went like you did with the sides
on Circa, then I would be able to release them.
But just the props guy, man, I'm just the props guy.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah. No, I enjoyed my five and a week. Dan
Alexander and I are trusted producer. Are going to talk
right after this show to bounce. He's already got for
his five plays locked in that he likes. I think
I've got four or five plays locked in as well too,
but we're gonna we'll talk about that at another time,

(40:07):
but definitely pick up Andrew's play this way, he can
fill the second the other half of the wall with
another picture up there, or hire someone to center that picture.
I know, Andrew, I'm just kidding with you. Colorado Avalanche. Yes,
we're going to talk about the Avalanche minus two ten,
the New York Rangers plus one seventy. The total sits
here at six. And the reason we're going to talk

(40:29):
about is because Andrew's gonna break this game down and
then I am going to segue into a pod play
out of this game. So Andrew Where are you going
with this one.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Carm This is a game here for the New York
Rangers that's going to be questioning some of the leadership
on this roster. I don't know if you saw that
video floating around, but it was a very very bad
leadership type video with JT. Miller being caught pretty much

(41:01):
giving up. He's the captain of the team. And if
you guys searched up on x or on YouTube, whatever,
it's pretty much a video and ended up leading to
the game winning goal in Vegas where JT. Miller was
battling along the boards and he just straight up stopped trying.
I don't know if his controller died, I don't know
if his brain turned off, but he's the captain of
the New York Rangers and he stopped trying, and all

(41:24):
of a sudden, Vancouver Canucks fans were having a field
day because they said, oh man, we're so happy we
got rid of this guy. We're so happy we kept
Elias Petterson and we didn't keep JT. Miller. That was
a bad game for the New York Rangers the other night.
This is gonna be a game I think that they
get back on track in karm and just looking at
the updated number here in this one, what are we

(41:47):
seeing for the updated number like minus two to eight,
minus two hundred, but the totals at six some spots
do show six and a half. I like the under
in this game. I think we're gonna see full on defense,
a little bit of traveling here from this New York
Rangers team. Not the best schedule for them by any means.
I know people look at the Avalanche and they automatically

(42:08):
think overs, they automatically think goals. But I think the
offensive play is going to start to run dry for
this New York Rangers team a little bit because they
haven't been getting depth scoring. It's been the top guys
or nothing. And when it comes down to this Avalanche team,
they do have the ability to play low scoring and
under games. I just think this is one of those
games for the Rangers where it's gonna be a real

(42:31):
test on leadership, how they can play defensively, how hard
they can work. Because if you watch that tape, the
best players on that team they got burnt multiple times.
They did not play their best hockey. So I will
be looking at the under in Colorado and New York tonight,
and I'm happy I didn't have a side play, Karen,
because I believe you do. What do you have for us?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, so we are going to segue right into the
pod play on this one. When I looked over this car,
there's a lot of spots and I'm going to throw
some out there that I do like before we get
to the actual image of what this play is. But
there's a lot of plays that stood out to me
Andrew that are not yet client plays. I do have
a two pack up tonight of the two games I

(43:16):
believe are the ones that best fit, you know, the
model that I have. And then I had a third one,
but I took that game off the board. That was
a five percent play. Clients couldn't get the price I wanted,
so I took it down. I want you guys buying
a play that you're not getting the best number on,
So that one's off the board. But you know, I

(43:38):
look at listen to Montreal Canadians. I get a Washington
scored a bunch of goals yesterday. They now head to Montreal,
a team that looks like they're hurting. But this is
a good spot for the Montreal Canadians at Mius one
thirty eight. So I want to toss that one out
there and then you guys will remember on the look
ahead I did have the Florida Panthers on the look Ahead.

(43:59):
I still like that one, even with the big at
one fifty five. But this game here, Andrew, listen this.
You know, the Rangers started this road trip with a
Las in Vegas, losing that game three to two, and
it's now a couple of games for them where they
went through that really good spurt of scoring some goals
and especially on the road, and now it seems to

(44:21):
be drying up, and it's like, were those games sort
of like patchwork. It worked for a while, but they
need some replacements in that lineup. It's not looking good
for them, and it's not looking good for them going
into face an Avalanche team that is not only scoring
goals but are winning games. They're first in the West.
This team has thirteen wins, twelve of them have come

(44:42):
in regulation, and of those twelve in regulation, ten of
those games they have won by two or more goals.
That is a great number. When you're winning games like that,
you're winning by margin, and that's not just them just
winning by two they're winning by three by four. Hell,
they went into Edmonton and put a ninth spot up
on the Oils as well too. So I'm going to

(45:06):
take Colorado here, minus one and a half plus one
twenty six game win streak for this team. I believe
it'll be seven tonight with a multi goal win. We're
gonna take it two to win, two forty as your pod.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Play, Kara, it's building, man. The bankroll is being built slowly,
and surely you're making some Christmas money with those bets
and just kind of one step at a time. So
Avalanche tonight, and I love the fact that it's a
nice little plus money price there, and I do feel
like they're getting the Rangers in a tough spot. That's
why I think the Rangers are going to try and

(45:40):
make it defensive as long as they possibly can, because
let's be real, they don't want to get in a
track meet with the Avalanche. But I lean to that
same side as you with the minus one and a half.
I want to mention karm if I can pull this
up here, three trends that we should all be aware of.
But good friend Ian Cameron passed along to me the

(46:01):
updated numbers Toronto thirteen and two overrun, Montreal ten and
one overrun, and Vancouver ten and oh overrun. So those two,
those three teams, if you're betting overs in their games,
you're having success. If you're betting player props in those games,
you're having success as well. And Karm, ever since you
said that about my my half wall, I'm gonna have

(46:25):
to get something going up here that Literally my girlfriend
was like, why didn't you put in the middle, And
I was like, eventually, I'm gonna have something over here.
And then now every time I talk, it's just weird.
The fact that there's something here.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
And something that I have.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
That's life.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
That's life. Drop me your address. I have a signed
I have a signed photo that I received. I will
send you and you can put it up on that wall.
It is a signed photo of Dan Alexander.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Ai Dan.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
It's a one of one, so it's a one on
one so it's worth a lot of money. Those one
and are very tough to get your hands on and stuff. Andrew,
but yes, embrace the chaos. Give us a pod play.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
This is what I got here for today. Guys. We've
got four plays and I'll tell you what somebody commented earlier,
and I got to respect the comment because carm yesterday,
all four people I had in my same game parlay
got a point. We just didn't get there with these shots.
We just didn't get there with the shots. That was frustrating.
Somebody commented, yeah, joy, I played all of your guys

(47:32):
for a point, and I cashed my parlay. He altered
my parlay and was able to cash the ticket. That
was kind of kind of funny to mention there. But yeah, Alexandrovechkin,
he gets a goal in the first period, but somehow
only gets two shots. That was frustrating. But this monshal
Acadience team is on a huge overstreak. They've been involved

(47:53):
in a lot of high scoring games. Kind of a
weird and tricky traveling situation here for the Washingtonpitals. I
know it's not that big of a deal, but the
same time, they did play a really competitive game last night,
put up a seven piece on the the Edmonton Oilers.
Then they got to travel to the Montreal Canadians. Canadians
have not played the game since Monday. Should be a

(48:14):
good spot for two of the top guys on the
team to get a point at least Nick Suzuki and
you Ryce Levkowski, both guys, of course on the number
one power play unit. Jason robertson three plus shots on goal.
You guys can sprinkle on that four plus shots because
that's where you're gonna get good plus money. But we'll
take the three plus alternate line for the same game
parlay purpose Vancouver ranks twenty seventh in shots on goal allowed,

(48:37):
and of course, as I mentioned, they're on that huge overrun.
And we're also gonna take Wyatt Johnston to get at
least one point. He's been on a roll for the
Dallas Stars. That's it for me with this same game parlay,
the prop parlay plus four forty five reasonable price here, guys,
shop around. You're always gonna get better places, better spots

(48:58):
with better prices. I have no afiliation with some of
these books that I'm putting on here. It's just simply
putting on some books that I think you guys might
have access to. So that's the reason for that. But
that's it. That's it for me. And don't forget guys.
We got the five percent play going tonight in the NFL.
The promo code once again is save fifteen plus thirty

(49:18):
three unit NFL prop run. Feeling pretty good about tonight's play.
WT dopas slash am for my five percent NFL play.
That's it for me, Karl.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
All right, Andrew, wish you the best of luck with
that play. I do like it. The NFL game tonight,
just speaking of that real quickly. I don't like this game,
and I'm a Bills Mafia fan. I just I think
the defense of Houston could give the Bills a lot
of trouble, especially if the Bills continue to turn over
the ball like they have. You can't turn over the
ball three times and continue to win games like they

(49:52):
have the last few weeks, citing two of the last
three weeks. So that's not making my circuit card this
week for sure. But I do have three plays up
in the NFL for Sunday. Really really like these ones.
They're all four percent plays. I'm going to have a
five percent play on Saturday in the NHL. So pick
up that ten days for ninety nine dollars and you'll

(50:15):
get all of these plays, including the return of Domestic
League Soccer NHL tonight. A couple of plays up if
you guys want to hit those ones. Up and then
of course the Friday card. So that's pretty much. It's
Andrew looking forward to the next few days and looking
forward to going out, meeting up with some friends and
watching a ton of hockey and some football tonight cheering

(50:37):
on your five percent play along with Don Busters. So
for myself Andrew McInnis and Dan Alexander and our guests
the Pres and Brian, this is part time. We will
see you on Friday and the six and sixty
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