Total Bases | World Series Game 1: Dodgers vs Blue Jays Betting Predictions & Series Preview

Looking for the best World Series picks, predictions, and betting tips for Friday, October 24, 2025? Tune in to Total Bases with expert handicappers Adam Trigger, Bryan Leonard and Tokyo Brandon as they break down today’s MLB matchups with sharp insights and actionable advice.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, welcome in everybody. It is time for Total Bases.
It's Game one of the World Series, and I just
built the stream very quickly here, so I'm going to
give people a minute to find it because I'm assuming
it's just popping up right now. So in the meantime,
Tokyo brand and let's you know, for all the people

(00:24):
that care out there, we officially have a Korean series.
We officially have a Korean series set as of a
couple of minutes ago. So if you've been grinding this
all season with us all the different leagues, the Hanwa
Eagles have gotten it done in Game five of the
KBO playoffs and they will now face the LG Twins

(00:46):
in the Korean Series. So before we get into the
World Series, Tokyo Brandon, did you have any action in
that game today?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Were you?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I absolutely did. I had Homa five percent play on
Hamwa today. I thought the last game where Punce gave
up six runs, I thought that was kind of an
aberration for him. I mean he was seventeen and one
on the season with a one to seven eight er.
I mean, the guy is gold. He was not that

(01:16):
good in Japan. He was in Japan last last year
or a year before, he was definitely not that good.
But in Korea, I've never seen a season seventeen and
one with a one to seven eight year I've never
seen it. Kim Kwing Hume wasn't even that good when
he was in his prime.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, I saw it the same way as you did TV.
I ended up with a four percent play Hanua minus one.
It was an easy win. And listen, since I've been
really focused on Korea baseball, which was basically back to
the pandemic. I know you've been following the league a
lot longer than I have, but really twenty twenty was
the year I got really into KBO and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean, the only guy I.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Can remember even close to that was Eric Fetti a
couple of years ago, where he was just and I
actually don't even think he was as dominant as Cody
Ponts was this year in KBO, So yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Something to be said. He was.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He definitely wasn't as good as he's been all year
in either of the playoff games, but he I was
with you, I didn't think there was any way they
could could do a ton of damage, and I figured
probably like you did that we might see Ryan Weiss
after him, and we did. So it a great start
in the morning or too great end to the night
for you. In Japan, we started off with a winner,

(02:33):
so King.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Actually was also minus one just like you've I got
it for minus one thirty, I think, and Choi Wante
was just not up to par on the same level
as Cody Ponce and I thought I thought that line
should have been like minus two fifty for Hamah, considering
they had the much better bullpen as well, and they
didn't need their bullpen like you said, they put Ryan

(02:55):
Weiss in, So we'll see how they We'll see how
they do against LG. It's pretty evenly matched.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, So I want to make sort of a parallel
to that game and then the kind of like you know,
cause because again we're still talking playoff series and just
in general.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So I'll go back to our show on Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I know, I know some folks were a little disappointed
on Monday because you know, and I kind of watched
our show back and we didn't really give much out
of substance. But I think that that also speaks to
how difficult it is to start betting, to bet these games,
the later it gets in the series, and I'll even
use the Hanwa series as an example. By that game,
like game five, you know, I now you might have

(03:37):
saw the you might have thought that there was a
little bit of value on Hanwa. I kind of did
as well, but like, really, you know, I'm sitting there
like minus one, minus one thirty minus one thirty five.
I think I laid. I think I ended up giving
out the minus one thirty five at DraftKings whatever it was.
Point was like, there wasn't a ton of value at
that point, but like, if you like your handicap, you

(03:58):
just kind of have to roll with it. That's sort
of where I was at at the end of the
jays Mariner series, where it's like, listen, we're at game seven.
The value has kind of been sucked out. We've been
talking about this matchup for a week. The likelihood that
you're going to really be able to find something to
bet at a good number that's anything other than like
flipping a coin. It is tough. But the nice thing

(04:19):
is now we have a new series. So we go
into game one of the World series. No one knows
anything yet. We haven't seen these two teams play, and
so I'm excited to talk about this game with you,
Tokyo Brandon, because I think there's a lot more to
unpack here than maybe there.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Was in the game seven.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So opening thoughts, we've got game any general thoughts about
the series first, and we'll get into the breakdown of
this game.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
My first impression when I saw that the Blue Jays
we're going to start Ya Savage was I was a
little surprised because I think they started the last series
with Gusman if I'm not mistaken. And by the way,
my show on Monday was probably my worst show of
the entire season. I was terrible in our show and

(05:07):
I got to tell everyone why. The day after our show,
I had to go to the tax office here because
I'm being audited, so I was. I was a little
stressed now, but my audit went well. So just to
let everyone know, the audit went well. They saw all
my fireball receipts and I just explained that I'm an alcoholic,
so everything was good.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Anyway, you write off the fireball areball, I write it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Off as a business expense because I drink it to
do my capping.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So yeah, I mean, if they needed proof of that TV.
If they needed proof of that, they just have to
watch the show you get exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You can just show them the show.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just hold the bottles up. Yeah, so I need it.
I need it to to for my professional skills. So anyways, Monday,
like the day after that, I had to go to
the tax office and give them my taxes for the
last five years, my pay slips for the last five
years and get grilled in Japanese about why I'm getting

(06:05):
all this money from overseas. They're a little sensitive about
that here. Yeah, since marijuana is completely illegal and yeah, terrorists,
all kinds of stuff going on, so yeah, they don't
like when foreigners get a lot of cash from overseas.
But anyways, that went well, so I'm back. I'm going

(06:27):
to have a good show today. So my first impression was,
if you're starting a rookie in game one, it doesn't
it doesn't give me a lot of confidence in your
starting rotation. Because I knew that Snell was going to
start Game one for the Dodgers. You know it's gonna
be Snell, Yamamoto, Glass now and Otani and I'm guessing.

(06:49):
I'm guessing, but I'm pretty much going to be right
on that guess, I think. But the Blue Jays kind
of are one of those you know, we saw it
up to this series as well, in the divisional series
as well. When when when teams like the Brewers don't
know who they're pitching the next day, twenty four hours
ahead of time, good chance they're gonna lose the game,
and almost always did in that situation. So I don't

(07:12):
have a lot of confidence in Toronto's starting rotation here.
I think I think they could be in a little
trouble with their starters.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, now, I'll go back to Monday for a minute.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And for me, I just I just felt like I
didn't have much to say that hadn't that we that
I hadn't already said through the first six games of
the series, And and I wish, I wish I just
basically said all the same things again, because I forget
that some people may have just been tuning in for
that show and maybe didn't watch the first you know,
kind of our our discourse over the first sort of

(07:45):
six games of the series, and that's and that's just
the challenge when you get into these seven game series.
Uh now, So I'll just start off before we really
break out down the matchup, I don't think so. Over
the last what have we had about about a week
since the Dodgers clinched and about four or five days
since the matchup has been set. I don't think the

(08:08):
Dodgers are are the sort of foregone conclusion that I
think maybe they were being made out to be when they, like,
right after that sweep of the Brewers, I mean you
you pretty much if you listen to the quotes you
listen to, most people's reaction was doesn't matter who wins
Blue Jay's Mariners, just give it to the Dodgers, right

(08:30):
and hey, nothing, I mean, sho he o Tani. Incredible game,
maybe the best game I've ever seen an individual play
on the baseball diamond.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The Dodgers were great in that series.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But I think the point I'm going to probably harp
on here and what needs to be really like driven home,
is it's zero zero and this is a new matchup, right,
and it's like, if you go back to that Dodgers
Brewers series, Let's say the Brewers get that timely hit
in Game one and beat Sasaki and suddenly they're up
one nothing in this series. Now I'm not saying the

(09:01):
outcome is different, but the series could play out much differently.
And I think that's the point that needs to be made,
is it's a new series, this game's in Toronto. The
Dodgers haven't won anything yet, and you know, to me, like,
don't tell the Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
That they're if this isn't their world series to win.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So again, i think I'll personally be looking for ways
in with the Blue Jays because I'm just not sure
the Dodgers should be as big of a favorite as
they are going into the series.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
For the series price, I think it was minus two
twenty or minus two forty, something in that range. I agree.
I think that's kind of ridiculous because up to now,
my opinion is that the Dodgers had an advantage over
everyone they've played up to now, including the Brewers in
the six through nine. But this series, their advantage in

(09:48):
the six through nine hitters not quite as big as
it has been up to now. I mean, blue Jays
have the Blue Jays can almost go toe to toe
with the Dodgers regarding the hitting, So I think the
difference in this series will be more like the bullpens
and the starting rotation up to now. I think the
Dodgers are just overpowering teams because they're six through nine.

(10:11):
When Otani, Betts and Freeman are cold, you know, Hernandez
can pick up the slack. Monsey can pick up some slack,
and the other Hernandez can pick up some slacks. So
but the Blue Jays also if Laddie's not hitting, there's
other guys who can pick up the slack in that lineup.
So I think this will be the Dodgers' biggest test

(10:32):
for sure, and I think we do have the two
best teams here.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Shout out to Ski Prophet. I know he's a Dodgers fan.
LA guy says, let's go Dodgers, Ski prop It's NBA season,
so if you're into the NBA, you should absolutely be
checking out his stuff. Great NBA, great basketball handicapper at
wager Talk and you know, listen, like I want to
talk about you Savage for a second, because yep, I

(10:59):
feel like you know you're gonna see a lot of.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
The story is gonna come out.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I mean, we've been talking about this since God may
or June, Like we we kind of pointed him out
before he ever threw a pitch in the big leagues
on this show. I feel like, you know, we were
very much ahead of that and knowing that he was
going to be really good. And you know, he started
the year at low A. Okay, and that's you're gonna
hear that constantly, Like started the year at low A.

(11:26):
Now he's pitching in the in the World Series. Listen,
that's the new normal in baseball. That's that's what Schlitler
would have been doing if the Yankees were here. It's
probably what Connolly early would have been doing it. The
Red Sox made it this far, so that to me
is just like I wouldn't look at that as like
a negative. Now I will say that like the thing
with him, the reason he slipped, So let me backtrack

(11:47):
for a second. The reason you Savage is starting Game
one and the reason that the Blue Jays are going
to go with him here is very simple. He has
the best stuff of anyone in that on that team.
When you're us looking at stuff, his stuff is the best.
And when you look at when you look at the
Dodgers lineup, you have to look and see you have

(12:08):
to think, like you nasty stuff is what's going to
beat this lineup right, Like Gossman's a better pitcher, Chris
Bassett's probably a better Like these guys are better major
league pitchers at this point, but they don't have the
stuff that's going to totally wipe out a Dodger's lineup.
So that, in my opinion, is why you try you
Savage here in Game one because if that split fingers on,

(12:30):
I'll tell you what, no one on the Dodgers is
hitting it either, yep.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And that's just it's just that simple.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, he's got a pitch that he calls a split change,
and it's it's it's a really nasty pitch and he
could I've said it in shows before, he could call
that pitch to the hitter and they still can't hit
it if he's locating it properly. So I agree with
you there. The thing is, he only has fourteen innings
of experience in Major League Baseball, and this is the

(12:59):
World Series and he's facing the best lineup in the league.
So we're gonna either see him just absolutely implode and
barf on the mound, or we're gonna see him have
a dominating performance. That park is not a pitcher's park, though,
so need to be careful here.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, though, that's a really good point, because I do
think I do think that's another reason you go you
Savage in game one, because it's it's high risk hy reward.
It's essentially exactly what you just said, high risk khy reward.
If his stuff's out, if he can get some swing
and myths or like when you're so the pitch you're
talking about, that splitter, if he can throw that at
the bottom of the zone, I don't care if Otani

(13:40):
has nine straight at bats he's not hitting it.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I agree, throw that.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Pitch and hit the bottom of the zone where it's borderline.
It's gonna be really, really tough to hit. Where he
could get in trouble in this game is if is
if the Dodgers, and this is very possible, because the
Dodgers may be as good at this as any team
in the league. If they're really patient, if they're getting
ahead and counts, suddenly they get a couple guys on base,

(14:04):
and they force him to either throw that slider that
he so you Savage throws three pitches.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
He's four seamer slider splitter.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And the slider is the one that tends to leak
out over the plate a little bit. This Dodgers lineup
will punish that, and that's really where it's like high risk,
high reward.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yep, right there.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And one thing to note. I mean, yes, he does
have really good stuff, but his regular season in the
RA was three two one and his regular season whip
was one four three, not very good numbers. And this
park is a hitter's park. So like you said, I
totally agree with you. If he's locating that split change,

(14:48):
it's unhittable. How long can he go into the game,
how long can he hold them down? And how much
faith do you have in the Toronto bullpen? We could
say the same thing, how much faith do you have
in the Dodger bullpen with Vesia missing?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So that's let's go there, and then we'll obviously we
can't leave you guys without talking about Blake Snell. We'll
get to him in a minute, but I want to
go to the bullpens first because Ethan says Dodgers missing
Vessia could prove costly. I very much agree, because you're
likely replacing him with Tanner Scott, who hasn't pitched in
about a month as far as I know, so Scott

(15:25):
had an infection that he needed to get an operation on.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Also, he was just not very good.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I think he probably blew more, probably blew more saves
than like anyone in the He was right up there
with blown saves. And I don't believe he's pitched since
the end of the regular season. I don't or maybe
he pitched in Game one, maybe he pitched against the Reds.
I'd have to go back and look at that. But
he's been out for like three four weeks. At this point,
he's likely the guy that's going to replace Vessia on

(15:54):
the roster.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
That to me is a downgrade.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
And I actually I think the Blue Jayson I've been
critical about the Blue Jays bullpen Tokyo Brandon. I think
the Blue Jays had the better bullpen here. You look
at Jeff Hoffman. He struggled during the regular season, he's
sort of gotten it together in the playoffs. I don't
think either of these bullpens is top notch. But right now,
I think the Blue Jays have the better group of
guys that I'd rather have in a game in their

(16:19):
home here.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
So who are you giving the bullpen edge to in
this game?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Maybe not the series because Bessie, it could be back
by Game three, but this game tonight.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think it's a push. And i'll tell you the
aside from Hoffman, none of the Blue Jay bullpen guys
have a whip under one point two. So that's to me,
that's a little scary. And I don't have a lot
of faith in the Dodgers bullpen either. I've been watching
Sasaki since his three years in Japan. He was injured

(16:52):
off and on, so he only pitched actually one real
full season in Japan. But he cracks under pressure. Now
they put him at closer and he's been doing he's
been doing okay, but in his last start at closer
against the Brewers, he was shaky. Yeah, he was putting
guys on base. He he lost his control a little.
And mentally he's not like he's not like rock solid

(17:15):
like normal Japanese pitcher, like a Darvish or a Kuroda.
When Kuroda was pitching in MLB, those guys mentally are
rock solid. He's not so. And Yamamoto wasn't either last year.
Yamamota has put it together this year, but Sasaki has
a little mental I don't say mental instability, I don't
mean he's got mental issues. I mean he cracks under pressure,

(17:39):
is what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want to go back and just backtrack with Sasaki
a little bit because that's a great point and if
you know, people will forget he he didn't close that
game out. He got taken out of that game. It
was trying, and that ended up getting the last out.
And listen, I think I think Churio hit a ball
hard that ended up turning into a sacrifice fly to
make it one. I mean that ball could have gone anywhere.

(18:02):
If that ball finds grass, the Brewers are winning that game.
So it's like he was very fortunate to not give
that game up. And then if you talk about, you know,
talk about Sasaki now, I think it was it was
earlier this season where he kind of he definitely had
confidence issues as a starter.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
And then he got hurt right like that, he cried
what happened with him?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
He did cry, He actually cried. But but give him
a break because that was I think his an MLB
debut or his second start, and he got crushed. I
think I forgot who it was, maybe the Padres. Someone
just crushed him, and he actually was like teary eyed
in the bench and he got he got a lot
of flack for that. That never happened to him in

(18:43):
Japan because he was a stud here in Japan, hitters
are not Major League Baseball hitters. So yeah, he faced
a lot of scrutiny, and he faced a lot of pressure,
and he cracked under it. Uh, he almost cracked against
the Brewers. So he's not the most stable. And now
that you bring up trying a lot of a lot

(19:05):
of hitters around the league.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
But that trying to you're I know, I figured you
were going to have a whole segment dedicated to how
bad he is or has been.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Well a lot, Well, Scott's been worse than trying to.
But trina has been injured a lot of the season.
But a lot of people in the Dodgers and around
MLB say that Trinan has the best stuff of anyone
in the Dodgers rotation or bullpen when when he's on.
But he hasn't been on this season, So will he

(19:36):
or will he not be? And now that we bring
Trinan and and Scott replacing Vessia, Actually I might agree
with you that that the Blue Jays have an advantage
in the bullpen here maybe a slight one.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, this is where I feel like TV, this is
where I feel like home Field might play for the
Dodgers a little bit, because you talk about like, okay,
so now Vessia, we know he's not playing, so so
take him out trying.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's been shaky at the end of games.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It feels to me like right now the Dodgers, at
least everything I'm reading, they're kind of committed to Sasaki
being the closer. And it's like he's twenty three years old.
It's his first year in the US. He had issues
with with, you know, underperforming early in the year. If
you go back to his season, the reason he was

(20:23):
in the bullpen in the first place was because during
his rehab. I don't think they were thrilled with how
his rehab went when he was coming back from injury,
and they kind of were like looking and they're like
all right, Like right around the same time, I think Snell,
you know that that their starting rotation was starting to
take shape, and I think they looked and said, I
don't know if we really trust him in the starting

(20:44):
rotation right now, and they had, you know, so they
had moved him back to the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That was part of his rehab.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
They had him coming out of the pen in Oklahoma
City and they I think they just kind of said, well,
let's keep it going and see if he, uh, you know,
succeeds out of the bullpen. It's very important to note
that most of his bullpen appearances in the minors and
then toward the end of the season weren't in the
closer role.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
They were kind of these like long relief type roles.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And even going back to like the Philly series, I
think that's kind of how they used him.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
If going off memory, kind of two to three innings.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I know he pitched in Game four, which was the
game that the Phillies ended up losing an extra innings
on that play at the plate and that was a
tie game. But listen, that was in Dodger Stadium and
they had a two to one lead in the game.
This is going to be on the road. That crowd
was unhinged for Game seven in Toronto. I don't know

(21:38):
that I fully want to be at the end of
the game with the Dodgers on the road, with that
guy on the mound, and then if they take him out,
it's trying and who's had trouble in those spots as
well this year.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So yeah, I give the Blue Jays a bullpen edge.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Go ahead, I actually will too. I said that none
of the Blue Jays have a whip under one point
two except for one. Uh the Dodgers man, you know,
is Kopek gonna be here? Uh He's got a one
to eight whip. Trianon's got a one seven whip, and

(22:11):
Tanner Scott, who has looked like absolute garbage, has a
one to two whip. Sosaki has a one four whip.
So yeah, what are you gonna rely on? Kirby Yates?
I mean, yeah, they do have bullpen problems. I think
a lot of these games are gonna be going over. Uh.
The Dodgers, I think have a rotation advantage because if

(22:34):
if if Otani is going to be pitching five innings
as the fourth starter, that's a heck of a that's
a heck of a weapon you have as a fourth starter.
It's kind of like Brian Wu for the Mariners being
their third starter. That's like a serious weapon you got there.
Glass now is number three. Glass now has been shaky,
but uh he can. He's a veteran. He can hold

(22:56):
hold things down. I think he's even if he's shaky.
He doesn't like throw up on the mound. He's he
rarely gives up a six burger or something like that.
He might give three earned runs, which is a bad
start for Glass now, but you know, are you going
to rely on Max scherz Er if you're the if
you're the Blue Jays, how many innings is shures are
gonna get you? He had a great start his last one,

(23:17):
and I actually backed him in that start. I took
the Blue Jays and Max Scherzer in the first five
and I won that. But is that someone you want
to rely on? He comes up in big games, but
for how long? So rotation Dodgers huge advantage bullpen. I
would agree with you. Blue Jays probably have a have
an advantage there.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
So Christian, I'll answer this question. So Christian says.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Scott is not eligible, I don't think they. So here's
here's what the roster. Here's the deal with the roster.
I researched this a little bit before coming on. I
think they have until I haven't seen the graphic on
Twitter yet. So usually once the roster is finalized, which
I think needs to happen early today. I think they
have until like early today to actually like submit the roster.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I know that we mostly know what it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I have not seen either team post their graphic yet,
so I'm assuming they still have to. Like I think
with the Alcs and the other series, it's like maybe
like it's usually the morning of is when they'll put
out the official here's what the roster is. I do
think Scott has said that he is good to go.

(24:28):
So the reason you haven't seen Scott in the playoffs
is because he had an operation done. Well, no that,
but he also had like a sister removed or like
something weird like that. He had like a little operation
on something that was infected. He says he's fine. Now
alex Vesia is gonna be. Here's what they're gonna allow

(24:48):
the Dodgers to do. They are going to put him
on the roster and then he's gonna likely be able
to use the emergency family leave stipulation, which I think
means you have to leave the team for a minimum.
David says one PM. Yeah, that sounds right. I was
gonna say, like one sounds right. So what they're gonna
do is Vessio will be on the World Series roster.

(25:11):
He'll be able to use the family emergency sort of
leave thing, which I believe means you have to leave
the team for a minimum of three days and then
they can and then they'll be they'll have an alternate,
which I'm guessing will be Scott. Right, So it's like so,
so Vessia effectively will be out for Game one and
Game two. I believe he'll be eligible to come back

(25:34):
for Game three, but doesn't have to. I think he
can stay out for up to seven days. So that's
kind of how that that's gonna work out. And I
do believe you see Tanner Scott on the roster because
he said that he's good to go, and I don't
think they have. And to answer your point about Copek,
I don't believe he's had knee inflammation. He's been out
since mid September. I think his his season is likely done,

(25:56):
so I.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Don't think you see him out there.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay. The Dodgers do have some nice middle relief though
in Banda Banda, Banda, Casparius and Dryer. Those are decent
middle relief guys, and they also have Shehan uh If
he's available who has performed well for a spot starter.
They won't need spot starters for the World Series, but
spot starters can be used for three innings of middle reliefs.

(26:20):
So what do you.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Think talk to me, Talk to me about, talk to
me about. Like, here's here's what burned me once I
played one. I made one bet in that Brewer series
on the Brewers and I lost. And and the thing
that kind of burned me in that game was part
of my angle was hoping to play against some of
these Dodgers bullpen guys. And the Dodgers never needed to
use their bullpen. How how likely is that with Lake

(26:45):
Snell on the mount here?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, it's interesting because Roberts. Yeah, uh, Dodgers have the
worst manager in MLB. So uh, he learned. He he
made the mistake once by pulling his starter early in
Game one. They barely got by. And you notice how
he used his starters after that. He left him in

(27:07):
for six innings almost every single game. Right, He even
left Otanian for six innings? Right, I think it was six.
So I think he learned. I think Dave Roberts learned
his lesson in from Game one, and I give him
credit because normally he doesn't learn his lesson and he
stays stupid. But he he he taught himself not to

(27:28):
be stupid. Incidentally, Blake Snell's over under outs is seventeen
and a half, so the books think he's either gonna
finish six innings or one out short over under. So
I think Dave Roberts believe his starters in as long
as possible, especially with Vessaut.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So I think, so here's the thing with the with
the books saying that that to me, that number, to
me tells me that the books think that the Blue
Jays can put together at bats against him. Because even
though Snell is is awesome, and like, you know, you
go back to that last game or the last start
he made against the vers I think I think Roberts
probably puts him out for the ninth inning if they

(28:06):
don't get the extra run. I don't think Dave Roberts
would have put Sasaki in a one nothing game. I
think it would have probably let Snell go back down
there the Dodgers after they tacked out, after they tacked
that run on, I think he was like, well, I
definitely don't want to bring Sasaki into an inning where
there's already runners on base. But like going back to
that line, like that, see that line right there, which

(28:28):
I didn't know until you just brought up. That makes
me like the Blue Jays because Vegas is saying, well,
we think he's gonna clock in right around six innings.
And the reason for that is this Blue Jays lineup
has great, great at bats one through nine.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
There's not there's no bad at that in this lineup.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's what I was saying. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
This is the best lineup the Dodgers have faced that
they haven't faced a team that can challenge them six
through nine.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, and even if it's Snell, like are you are you?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
If you're Dave Roberts and you're the Dodgers, Like, how
are you dying to have a vlad? Get a third
look at Snell? Right, Springer, Get a third look at Snell.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
But you know I'd rather.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Him face Snell than Casparius.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
But if you can get if you can sort of
force them into that decision in the sixth or seventh inning,
at some point, the Dodgers are probably gonna have what
you're banking on if you're betting the Blue Jays is
two things. One, ya Savage has his good stuff, because
if he doesn't, and you fall in like a three
nothing hole. See this is this is also very very
important in terms of betting this game. If y Savage

(29:34):
doesn't have as good stuff, the Dodgers score early and
then they fall into a little bit of a hole.
As the Blue Jays, you almost have to like you
almost have to manage with game two in your head,
like you almost I'm not saying that you're gonna just
wade the white flag, but you have to start sort
of managing resources for the next game, like and then

(29:56):
just hope that your offense like somehow goes off because like,
let's say the Blue Jays find themselves in a three
nothing hole because your Savage puts a couple of guys
on and then someone hits a three run bomb. Well,
now you almost have to look like if I'm Schneider,
I'm like, I might just take you Savage out because
I need to have I need to have three chances

(30:16):
with the Savage.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's another reason he's starting game one.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I need to have three chances with the Savage to
have his best stuff, meaning if it's here, then it's
his game and we got to ride and we gotta
try to win game one.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
If it's not here and he walks a couple.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Guys, I gotta get him out of there because I'm
probably gonna need to try him in game four because
you're just not gonna likely. You're not likely to beat
this Dodgers team, going like Sure's or gossiping Bassett, like
one of them might have a good game, but the
likelihood that the three of those can hold up against
this lineup is slimmed.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
So that's something I would look for.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And that might be an in game angle, like if
you see a Savage get in trouble or he doesn't
have it and then they go down a little bit,
This could could get ugly because you might see the
Blue Jays use just their back end guys in hopes
that they can come back tomorrow and then you know,
stack the good relievers. So that that is like something
to look out for in this game. It's it's really

(31:14):
going to be relying on how you Savage pitches those
first couple of innings.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
In my opinion, he Savage's out prop is fourteen and
a half so the book is asking you, will he
or will he not finish five innings? He has never.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Had his good stuff he will. If he has his
good stuff, he will. I'm confident he's never.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's never finished six innings in his MLB career. I'm
sure in the miners you've seen him. In the miners,
you said he went deep, but single a is like
playing against high school kids, So, uh, he's never. In
the playoffs, they're stretching him a little further. He's pitched
into the sixth inning, but he's never finished it. So

(31:52):
Schnyder left him in for the sixth inning two times
in the postseason, so that's something to consider. I'm not
touching his outs props because I have no idea if
we're if he's going to be on or not, if
the Dodgers can touch him or not, So I really
don't know what to expect there. His strikeouts prop is
five and a half, which I think is really high.

(32:14):
Snell's is six and a half, which I think is
also kind of high. So but but ya, Savage has
an eleven k per nine rate, and the Dodgers strikeout
eight k per nine, So if he goes five innings,
he might get those six strikeouts. So speaking of props,
but I have no idea if the Savage is gonna
go deeperor not. I do know he's not going to
finish well. I don't know. I would not expect him

(32:38):
to finish six innings because he never has in fourteen
innings of his career.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
David David Edgington says, what does Roberts do if Snell
gives up early runs? The answer is nothing, He's just
it's Snell leaving. He's just gonna leave him.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is see, that's the thing, Like the Dodgers have
the luxury of the far deeper rotation Tokyo. Brandon already
pointed that out earlier, that it's not even close. The
Dodgers' rotation is so much better, and they are they
are the probably the bett I mean, you shouldn't write
the Blue Jays off, but like the Dodgers are the

(33:16):
better team. So like you're not gonna see if Snell
gives up early runs, it's just gonna be business as usual.
He'll probably get his hundred pitches in, they'll go to
the lesser bullpen guys, and they'll regroup to go to
Game two. The Dodgers can win this series just with
their usual going Snell, Yamamoto, whoever's that, you know, whatever

(33:37):
order they want to use. The Blue Jays are the
team that's gonna have to get creative in my opinion,
so I don't think that that's gonna do anything. I
don't think if Snell gives up early runs, they're just
gonna let him settle in. And that's the other thing
with Snell, you kind of have to get I feel
like you have to get him early.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
That's when you can get Snell.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
If not, once he settles in, he's going seven seven
and he's probably gonna give up nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
So it's kind of a tale of two different managing
necessities here. Dave Roberts has to leave his starters in longer.
He has to. I think Game one of the last
series taught him when he had I think three to
nothing four nothing lead, took Snell out early, but ah,
this is in the bag and the bullpen just gacked

(34:20):
it away immediately. So he learned his lesson, and since
that game he's left his starters in almost six innings
I think almost every game. On the other hand, the
Blue Jays can you rely on Max Scherzer to go
six innings. I realized his last start he did and
he was awesome. But can you rely on that every
start from him? I don't know. I love Max Scherzer.

(34:41):
I think he's great. He's an older guy, he's like
a Verlander. So can you rely on six innings from
him against the Dodgers? I don't think so. So the
Blue Jays, like you said, are gonna have to be creative.
They're gonna have to use middle relief a lot more
than the Dodgers do. I think Dave Roberts learned his lesson.
He's scared to use his bullpen, So I think I

(35:02):
think the over on that Snell seventeen and a half
would be a decent bed. Although I haven't played.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
It, I don't think he's scared to use his bullpen
as much as it's just like hit, the strength of
the pitching staff is clearly the starting pitching So why
even like, why would you even do that to yourself?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Like where as I whereas like the Blue Jays, like,
if you're you are really asking for it. If you
let this Dodgers lineup see Scherzer for a third time,
dash it for a third time, so like uh uh,
Gossman's probably earned the right a little bit more at
this point.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But like the one guy who can.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Go along in that rotation.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah right, But it's like, I mean, he's still like
it's not like his stuff is so good that you
would I still would be very very concerned giving like
Otad letting him, letting him, especially a right handed pitcher,
go Otani Freeman, that third time through the order. Like
that's that's so, and you see, know, David says, Schneider

(35:59):
learned his lesson to you know little like That's the
other thing with the Blue Jays. They don't there's a
couple of good arms down there, but there's no there's
pretty much since Imy Garcia got hurt, which was early July,
in my opinion, they don't the the the wipeout arm.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
There's two.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's just Savage, who they're now using as a starter,
and it's Louis Louis Varland and you you pretty much,
if you're Snyder Schneider and you're the Blue Jays, you
have to pray that those two guys have their best stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That's that that literally is that you John Schneider went
to bed last night TV saying his prayers, please have
Trey Savage have his best stuff because if he doesn't,
we're not winning this game.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like that's just it's just that simple.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
And so for me as a better the way I
look at it is this, I want I see value
on the Blue Jays in this at least in these
first couple of games at home. And it goes back
to what we said earlier in the series or earlier
in the show. I don't mind the fact I wouldn't
mind getting the Blue Jays on their home field, maybe

(37:05):
in a situation late in the game where they've got
Sasaki on.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
The mound or maybe they're maybe they're going they have
a lead.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
And I've got the plus one and a half it's
currently minus one thirty. The upside to that bet is
if Treya Savage has this good stuff and he and
he goes see that's the thing, Schneider's gonna ride him here.
If he has this good stuff and he has a lead,
like if you know, so, if if he's if he
just just if he's just mowing dudes down, because that
splitters working and he's putting where he wants it like

(37:33):
the upside is tremendous. So that's the way I'll be
playing this. It's either gonna be Blue Jays plus one
and a half or pass for me here it's minus
one thirty. I kind of am gonna wait. I'm kind
of hoping the Dodgers money shows up at some point
and knocks that down a little bit. That's the way
it would play it. But again, I'm sitting here telling
you that's the way I would play it. But man like,

(37:53):
there's there's things that can happen where I could be
down eight one, and I just have to say all
right on the game too.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I think I think I like Gaussman maybe more than you.
I I equate Gaussman to Glass. Now it's kind of
like a solid guy. You're not really sure what you're
gonna get every outing, but it's probably gonna be pretty decent.
It's kind of And then I kind of equate Scherzer
to Otani. I understand Otani has more talent, but there
are two guys who could get pulled kind of early,

(38:20):
but they have electric stuff. So I kind of equate
those guys. And then it goes to Snell versus you
Savage well, Snell obviously has more pedigree, the Savage only
has fourteen innings in Major League Baseball, and then second
starter Yamamoto is gonna definitely be better than Bassett. So

(38:40):
I just think the Dodgers have the better rotation here.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, oh, I don't disagree with you there. What I
will say is that so this is how. This is
also how how I will be watching this game, like
whether I have action or not, the way I will
be watching.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
This is so.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And we could talk about this game because we're not
gonna have a show tomorrow, so we can we can
touch on this for a minute. I'm thinking that it's
probably Gossman in Game two up against Yamamoto.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I agree, probably, I was surprised Gosman wasn't in Game one.
But yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
If I can't get if I can't convince myself to
do it today, what I will likely hope for is
a scenario, regardless of who wins, where the.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Blue Jays don't use Louis Varland tonight.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I now, if I bet the blue Jays tonight, I
want them to use everyone they possibly can of get
that win. But the way I would kind of like
the Blue Jays tomorrow. In game two is let's say
the Dodgers come out and and roll tonight, win seven
to one. It's over early. Snell's kind of on cruise control,

(39:50):
and the Blue Jays don't really have to use any
of their bullpen guys. Going back to your point, I
do like Gossman as well, so David says in the
chat Gossman too, and games two and six makes sense.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
If I had gosspmin tomorrow, and you would have to think, like, Okay,
looking at where the game is priced today, you're probably
gonna get similar prices tomorrow. With Yamamoto on the mound,
Yamamoto and Sneller in that same sort of category gossiping,
I think they'll price him similar to their pricing your
savage here. Maybe maybe even a little bit more value tomorrow,
especially if the Blue Jays lose here.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Maybe yeah, for the plus one and a half. Yeah,
I agree. Yeah, if I could.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Get definitely will have the edge with the books.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
If I could get Gossman, I knew he was going
to be followed by Violin tomorrow, that would be the setup.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'd probably be looking.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
A good value Jays good value. So actually, if the
J's are going to lose Game one, to build on
your point, it's in their best interest to get smashed, yeah,
or not a close game, right, Or they get smashed,
then they can just throw throw Little out there and
let him give up six runs like he always does
so and not care.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Right, And that is my concern.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
You savage, get hammered for six innings and then throw
Little out there to give up six more, right.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
That is my That is my main concern and the
reason I haven't bet this yet because I don't even
think they need to get smashed to do that TV.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And I'll tell you why I think.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I think that the Blue Jays are likely using guys
like Little or like the back end of their pen,
even if it's like three to one, even if it's
four to one, because I think that they have to.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Schneider has to manage.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
With the mindset that, all right, if I have a
lead or if I'm tied, I've got to go for it.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I've got to try to win, even if I'm down
three to one.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Like it's not to say that they're not playing to win,
but he has to manage with like, hey, if Laddie
or Springer gets into one and all of a sudden
we're tied or take the lead. That's awesome, and we'll
we'll we'll sort of revert course if you will. But
if they're trailing, I just don't think the Blue Jays
have enough resources to justify using any of their good

(42:10):
resources here if they're trailing. That's that's the tough part
about back in the Jays in game one. I almost
feel like you need to be tight er in the
lead or that plus one and a half probably doesn't hold.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Up instead of strategizing them are like hoping.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
No, yes, but that is part of the strategy because
you have to because you're looking and saying, okay, do
we have a better chance to win trying to come
back against Snelling the Dodgers with all this rest or
do we have a better chance to win with Gosspin
backed by our best relievers in Game two against Yamamodo.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
That's what they're going to say to themselves.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Don't get us wrong. We're not saying that the Blue
Jays don't have a chance in game one. We're just
saying if it's a grinded out two to two game,
that goes to twelve innings, it's definitely Dodgers' advantage.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
No, see, that's thee I disagree. That's where that is
where I would like the Blue Jays. If it's like,
if the J's are tied, here's the thing. If the
J's are tied in this game, even if they're down one,
I think they're probably in total grind out mode. I
think I think Schneider would go all in on that,
especially if it's tied. Maybe not down one, but if
he is a leader, if he's tied, he will go

(43:18):
all in. But if they're down three to one, he's
probably gonna put the back end bullpen guys in because
he knows that he's just gonna try to buy himself time.
And then if little or someone like that gets blown up,
it's gonna be like, all right, we'll see tomorrow. Right,
we'll see you tomorrow. We'll have our best guys behind Gossman.
We'll try to get to LA one to one. So
that is that is like, that's the thing, and that

(43:41):
when you're when you're talking about betting a plus one
and a half, you kind of like, you know, it's
harder to justify betting a plus one and a half
if you if you know that, the second you go
down three runs, then a team might wave the white flag.
And again, I want to make this very clear, because
I know there's someone out there.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
This is the World Series.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I'm not saying that they're not trying their absolute hardest,
but it's all it's resource management. Schneider is going to
have to save his best guys to put behind Gossman
to give them a chance to win a game at home.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
That's the predicament you get yourself in.

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(44:37):
going to go longer because Brian's not here. So there's
so much to break down though, because I really like
this matchup because in my opinion, like I said at
the beginning of the show, I think the Blue Jay
is pretty much the only team that can go toe
to toe with the Dodgers lineup wise, and they're not
quite toe to toe with them, but they're almost there.
So you know, you got other guys like Springer and

(45:00):
and stuff. I mean the equal or better than Taskar
Hernandez or Max Munsey. So I think the Blue Jays
have a real shot if it's a if it's a
like a war of runs, I think the Blue Jays
can go toe to toe with them, which I did
not think the Brewers could, and I definitely didn't think
Cincinnati could either. So this is a good matchup. I

(45:23):
like this matchup because the Jays have an advantage in
the bullpen, as we talked about, and man, the Dodgers
bullpen is just decimated right now. I mean, are they
gonna put Kirby in the game or is he off
the roster? I mean, Kirby's been awful as well. I mean,

(45:43):
you know, Casparius and they got a couple of mid
middle relievers who are okay, but I mean the reliable guys. Man,
when they got Scott from what was it San Diego
and they got Kirby, just thinking, wow, this bullpen is
stacked and all those guys have barfed completely. So I
expect a lot of runs in this series. This is
gonna be an exciting series and is not a picture's park.

(46:07):
It's definitely hitters parks.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
So so the way we'll finish this show up, I
think so, David says Game two analysis. I think the
way we'll finish up this show is any any bets
you would make in game one, you know, just throw
them out there and then what you would look to
do in game two or like you know, I it's
really so, David, I'll say this, I can't give you

(46:30):
game two analysis without knowing what happens in game one.
Like it's it's just not the way I would ever bet.
So my game two analysis is very simple. I'm looking
for a spot to play the Blue Jays. The two
things I think make sense today, and I think there's
some correlation here, is you Savage over his outs PROP
and Blue Jays plus one and a half, because I

(46:53):
think I think for the blue Jays to cover plus
one and a half in this game, y Savage has
to pitch well. If the Savage does not pitch well,
he's likely not hitting his outs PROP and the Blue
Jays are likely not covering the plus one and a
half in this game, so I think there's some correlation there.
I have absolutely no interest on the total whatsoever, because

(47:15):
I just don't even know how you handicap a total
for this game. It could be it could be nine
to one, it could be two to one, it could
be fourth. Like, there's just too many different things that
could happen in the way this game could play out
where I want no part of an over under seven
and a half. So my bet if I was to
give a best bet, and probably if if you see

(47:35):
a baseball play up for sale for me today, you'll
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It would be Blue.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Jay's plus one and a half and I am and
I would be willing to roll the dice with the
Savage pitching. Well, So if you don't like the Blue
Jays run line, don't like the plus one and a half,
you don't see me put up a play, then you
know if you want.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
A little prop little action on the game.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I think Schneider's gonna ride with the Savage as long
as he's got a good stuff. So maybe the over
over make And to touch on game two analysis, I already.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Pretty much gave you my roadmap.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
If the Blue Jays don't use their best relievers, and
I can get Gossman with the better relievers tomorrow, and
I can get plus one and a half in a
playable range.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
That will be my play.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
So that's my Game two analysis, and now I'll go
over to TV if you want to sort of give
what you're looking to do in the first couple games
of the series.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
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(48:48):
believe it will be Amamono versus Gusman, and I believe
both of those pitchers are capable of going six innings,
so I think we'll see a lot less bullpen usage
in Game two. And I would go look at Goussman
has pretty good stats against the Dodgers in his career
and Yamamoto. I expect him to have decent stats against

(49:09):
the Blue Jays in Game two, So I think Game
two should be lower scoring than Game one because two
pitchers that can go rather deep into the game will
be starting Game one. I really don't know how much
how deep your Savage is going to go. Like I said,
he has fourteen innings of Major League Baseball experience, and
he's never finished six innings in his career. However, the

(49:31):
World Series can bring out the amazing souls of people,
and they tend to do amazing things or they tend
to absolutely explode. So we'll see how he Savage performs today.
I'm looking forward to it. If you change split or
what is it called a change splitter or whatever he

(49:53):
calls it, if he locates that pitch, if he locates
that pitch, he's going to pay it's five.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah, I mean if if like it's like if you
go to a pitching ninja. Rob Friedman, great account on
Twitter who shows like overlays of pitch.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
He's it's all about pitching.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
He's kind of pointed out, like if if he's able
to hit the bottom of the zone with that pitch,
there's pretty much no one on planet Earth. That's that's
doing much of anything with it. Problem is it? The
problem is it's a it's a pitch that moves a ton,
and there's almost like a splitter as you know, like
if I mean, if it's up a little bit, it's

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suddenly it's not as good of a pitch. If it's
if it's too far down where hitters can identify it,
then then he's getting behind an accounts and you can't
that that pitch doesn't really work if you're behind an
account because more likely than not it's going to be
a ball. So it's like, you know what I mean,
it's more likely than not it's going to finish either
just outside of the zone. It's really difficult to nail

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the spot with that pitch. That's why it's like, you know,
it's it's a little bit different than like, well, if
he's locating his heater, like, yeah, a lot of these
guys can can locate a four steamer, much tougher to
do that with a pitch that moves like that pitch does.
But yeah, Friedman will be tweeting that out all day.
So take a look at his account on Twitter. He

(51:17):
posts a lot of good stuff with pitching, David, what
do you do if the Jays win game one? Well,
it's not that simple. How did they win Game one?
Did they tee off on Snell and suddenly it's eight
to one JS and they just coast it? Because if
that's the case, you'll probably have a decent opportunity to
come back with the game with the Jays in game two.

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That being said, did the books overreact if the Jays
win big? Suddenly? Is there no value to do? So
that's the tough question. That's why it's virtually impossible to
give a actual handicap for game two, because we need
to see how this game plays out. There's just too
many different things that could happen that would alter the way,
at least me personally, that I would look at game two.

(51:58):
So it's it's really how it happened. And I can't
even say that I would look to do one thing
or another. I just the reason I say I'm looking
for a spot to bet the Blue Jays is I
think the Blue Jays is where the value is right now,
and so that's why I'm sort of looking that way.
If the J's come out here and te off and
it's eight if they win the game said and nothing,

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maybe the value in the series changes and I have
to start looking in the other direction.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I'm looking forward to seeing how you Savage performs, young
guy rookie fourteen innings of experience? Is the World's series
pressure gonna get to him? So far in the postseason,
he's been solid mentally. You know a lot of people
don't think about this, but a lot of pitching is mental.

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Your mental state. I mean, you have to have the ability,
but a lot of pitching is the mental state. Which
pitch you're going to throw?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Here?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Are you going to challenge someone? You get three balls
and no strikes? Do you have the testicular fortitude to
throw a fast ball right at the middle against Latt,
against Laddie or Bushett? So a lot of things are mental.
So how does a rookie handle that mental game when
he's getting grinded and grinded by the best lineup in

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MLB facing Otani, Bets, Freeman, Hernandez Muncie. I mean, that's
a grind for a picture. How does a rookie handle that?
I really look forward to seeing that game two. Though
I do think Gausman and Yamamoto both have the ability
to go six, five or six innings though, so I
think we'll see less bullpen in Game two.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I think the first couple batters of this of this
game are so important. Like if you think, if you're
Savage and and you come out and dot a couple
of corners and corners against Otani and Freeman and have
a clean first inning, I mean, that's to me, it's
it's it's you're gonna know. I really truly believe you're
going to know in the first inning. And that goes

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to the point of I think it was a David
in the chat I'll play live OL six and a half. Well, listen,
that's not a terrible angle. If I'll tell you right now,
if the Blue Jays fall behind early in this game,
it's probably gonna go over. Now, I wouldn't take a
bad number. But let's say, like let's say it's like

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two nothing early, like or something like that. I don't
know what that's gonna do the live over, but like
or if you I mean, listen, you might have to
get a little uh, you know, you might have to
take a chance. But like let's say suddenly there's a
bunch of base runners on or maybe maybe he gets
out of a jam or something. If the Blue Jays
fall behind in this game, I think it's gonna get

(54:36):
out of it. I think you're gonna have some runs
at the end of the game that are just like
you know, like like too nothing could turn into like
seven to two. So that so I don't I don't
totally disagree with David. I think if the Blue Jays
have a lead and they're not hitting you savage, it's
far more likely to end under right and two to one.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
So that was yow thing.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
One more thing I'm going to be looking for as
far as live betting is concerned. Does Otani get on
base in his first at bat? Now, if Otani gets
on base, you got a guy on first base with
no outs, you're facing murderers row here, and you're a
rookie with fourteen innings of experience. You got to be thinking,
oh my god, how am I going to get out

(55:20):
of this game? Already? So if he puts Otani on
base the first at bat, it'll be interesting to see
how he pitches out of that, because you know, Otani
is one of the best bas dealer you see out
a fifty to fifty season last last last year, the
Dodgers might be pretty aggressive against a rookie pitcher. And
if Otani gets walked on his first at bat and

(55:42):
steal second base, this rookie, how is he going to respond?
It's going to be very interesting. I look forward to it.
But if he responds poorly to that, Katie bar the door,
I bet the Dodgers team total over in live betting
for sure.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So the key for that, and it depends on how
the Dodger struck or their lineup, I'm assuming. So if
you know they they may flip around three and four,
like you know, you know who it's gonna be. Sometimes
Freeman it hits third, sometimes he hits four, like I.
If Otani gets on, it's it's gonna be like Bets
would be the best matchup for you, Savage, Like that

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would be like what I consider a good matchup. So
if it goes Otani, Betts, Smith, Freeman, let's I'm just
I'm not saying that's what it's gonna be, but that's
what they use.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
That was the lineup.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Freeman, Hernandez is what it's been most of the time.
But I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Let me go back to the last lineup they had
against a right handed pitcher because they used it a slightly.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Let's see what they used against Miserawski hold on I.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Otani, Betts, Smith Freeman was the was the lineup for
the Dodgers in Game three and Game four of the series.
I would trust you need a Savage to get Freeman
and Betts or one of those. Yes, if they like,
let's say it, let's say all of a sudden, it's
first and second, one out and Freddie Greeman's up, that
might be your That might be where you live met

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and try to front run the damage, because that's probably
what would happen.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That would be that.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
I'm just gonna be I really look forward. If Otani
gets on in his first at that, how does how
does the Savage react to that? Because Otani could steal second.
I mean they could be aggressive and say, let's let's
make this rookie sweat. You know, and a steel base
is better than anyone. His legs are longer than a giraffe.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
So if you're live betting, what you should be looking
for is like, especially in that first at bat against Otani,
how how does he attack him? Does he just does
he go right after him, because like, that's what I
want to see, is someone that would be backing the
Jay's backing a Savage or on the flip side, someone
that would want to potentially go against him. How does
he attack you Otani in that first at bat? Does

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he come right after him and say, yeah, like my
best stuff against yours?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Or is he nibbling? And then is he does he
fall behind?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Like I, if I'm if, I'd almost rather see If
I'm like someone that wants the Blue Jays, I'd almost
rather see Otani hit one four point fifty off of
him one pitch would be down one nothing with the
Savage having gone after him.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Then like a scenario where.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
He nibbles and like runs the count three to one,
three two and then throws a non competitive pitch and
puts him on first base.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Right, Totally agree with you. Totally agree with you. And
that's what I mean about a lot of pitching is mental.
A lot of these great pictures have just as good
as stuff as an average pitcher, but the mentally they
use it well, Like that's why Trevor Bauer was so good,
because mentally he didn't have the best stuff. His fastball
only was like a ninety two or something. He wasn't

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he didn't have the best stuff in the world, but
mentally he was one of the best pictures I've ever seen.
Guys like match sures, they just blow it by you.
But there are pictures who are smart and have above
average stuff and they're excellent pictures. Right, So I agree
with you if and I have a feeling being a
real in his first World Series Game one in your hands,

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I have a feeling we're going to see him nibble
and get into trouble. And if we do, bet the
Dodgers team total over right away. What interesting though, the
Dodgers team total was four and a half, which I
thought was really high, which is kind of suspicious too.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
You can get Dodgers team total over juiced around minus
one thirty five minus one forty three and a half
right now, So Dodgers team total over three and a
half is minus one forty and like again, like it
really depends on like what live options that you have.
I don't disagree with the thought process there, like and

(59:40):
again it's it's I don't know if I'll I'll get
to the window whe the Jay's or not. But I
think that's a great way to look at it is
I'd really be watching how he attacks O Tommy and
go from there, because again, you're not You're just not
gonna get away with with nibbling. The You're just not
gonna get get away with nibbling against this Dodgers lineup,

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putting a couple guys on and then hoping you get
the inning ending double play. That's not that happened a
lot against the Mariners in that series. It's just not
gonna happen against this Dodgers lineup. Like, you're more likely
to be down three nothing if you do that. So
that's that's what what i'd be looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
You have no breathing room here. Someone says you're seething
that I keep interrupting here. I didn't notice I was
interrupting you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I don't think you're I don't think you're interrupting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
It's tougher, just you know, Yeah, And it's it's much
tough tougher to do a two man show because it's
like when we've got Brian here and we've got the trio,
we we kind of have a little bit of an
order that we typically talk in, Whereas it's like if
it's two of us. It's just us kind of going
back and forth, winging it to an extent. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
But but we made it an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I think we've I I don't think we've really left
any stone unturned at this point. You pretty much know
what I'm looking at today and tomorrow. TV has given
on a bunch of stuff. I think you have a
couple of plays up for sale.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I do in this I do, uh, and you probably
don't know what they are from which is going. But yeah,
MLB plays for anything but a five percent just one,
a five percent tonight nine and three five percent runs.
So uh, Adam and I both cashed on the Hamwa Eagles.

(01:01:19):
That was kind of easy money in my opinion, that
was kind of easy money. I mean, punce, no way
should punce be a be a minus one thirty under
any circumstances minus one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, that was a the kind of just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
As it took me four It took me four games
to make money in that series.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Like I, I pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Had Hanma like minus won the whole time, ridiculous pushing
game one. They had a nine to six league going
into the ninth inning, and so I think I was
one one and one and I just said it's Game five.
I fully expected Ham to win this series. I've just
gotta it is what it is. I'm gonna lay the
minus one thirty and yeah, in hindsight, when you think
about getting pot, it's getting weiss Hanwa at home. Minus

(01:02:03):
one minus one thirty was probably.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Absolutely I kept betting unders in that series, so I'm
like you, I kept losing money on this series until tonight,
but definitely were not the way to go, as every
game was like fourteen nights.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I think that I think every game went over, every
game is interfected.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Given the fact that Hama has one of the best
rotations and one of the best bullpens, that kind of
surprised me. But I had Samsung the number one hitting team,
so I shouldn't be betting unders. So there's me right,
We'll see how LG does against Hama. But like I said,
I'm really looking forward to seeing you savage. How is
he gonna Is he gonna crack? Is he gonna attack?

(01:02:42):
Is he gonna nibble? If he nibbles, he's in trouble.
You can't nibble against these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Well, by the next time we see By the next
time we see each other, we will have. We will
know the answers to those questions, at least through the
first two games in this series. Uh the schedule for
total Bases the rest of the way. Any weekday that
there is a World Series game, we will have a show.
That means next week we're gonna go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Friday if they're still playing, so we'll see. I hope
they are. I hope we're still doing a show on Friday.
That means this series has gone to six games and
it's a it was a worthwhile watch, but we'll see.
UH enjoy you enjoy the games this weekend. Hopefully you
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