October 28, 2025 • 44 mins
Looking for the best World Series picks, predictions and betting tips for Tuesday, October 28, 2025? Tune in to Total Bases with expert handicappers Adam Trigger, Bryan Leonard and Tokyo Brandon as they break down today’s MLB matchups with sharp insights and actionable advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is Tuesday, it's five dollars Tuesday. It's time for
total basis. And I just got to sleep a few
minutes ago, and now I'm back up ready to talk baseball.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think that went till I think I finally fell
asleep around three o'clock Eastern, and here we are, nine
o'clock eastern, ready to talk about Game four. Not nearly
as big of a deal as the guys that have
to turn around and play this game after playing eighteen innings.
The Dodgers, of course get it done. If you were sleeping,
it did eventually end. The Dodgers walked it off none
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other than Freddie Freeman. Of course he was going to
do that, and now the Dodgers have a two to
one lead in the series. John Burk in the chat says,
what a game. I really no other way to sum
it up. A tremendous game, in Brian Leonard, A game
that was played like, you know, we had a close
marathon game in the Mariners Tiger series that went fifteen innings,
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but this one was played at a high level throughout.
I think that might get a lot like there was
so many good there. It was like relay play to
cut down a run, big time hit pitchers game. I mean,
that was a game that was eighteen innings but played
at a high level the entire time.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It just really doesn't get better than that. It really was.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And for the first time in a while, the key
player in that game comes back and has to pitch.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Today, and it's I'm sitting there as I'm watching the game,
you know, if this happens whatever tomorrow, and the whole
time you're thinking, how is this going to affect the
next day?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And when you go back and you looked and basically
for the most part, both pitching staffs. I mean, Yamamoto
was in the in the bullpen, so he just pitched
a complete game two days ago. It tells you what
the playoffs are. And I just if you like high scoring,
you got the first half of the game. If you
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like pitching and tight you know defense, you got second
half of that game. That was probably one of the
greatest games I've ever seen in my life. And for
it to be in the playoffs, and we just talked
about this yesterday that they scheduled three straight days, so
that is going to really make a difference because a
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lot of these pitches. They had guys yesterday, go thirty
innings your close her for Toronto went with thirty pitches
or whatever yesterday. A lot of key guys may not
be available today, and so this is probably the most
convoluted handicap I can remember in a really long time.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, some props to give and some poops to give.
So first the props props to she and he impressed
me yesterday watching that game. I knew when Trying and
went in, I knew the Dodgers were in a little
bit of trouble. Of course, he gives up three hits
in it and run, of course. Uh, But I thought
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she had pitched really well. Uh. And I also kind
of knew as soon as Little winning the game. I've
been bad mouthing Little since the postseason started. I knew
when he went in the Dodgers won this game. So
and he did, And that's exactly what happened. Yeah, man,
managerial mistakes. I mean, there's no excuse to pull Springer,
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Boschett and Kirk.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, he'll be off for the rest of the series.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I would guess, all right, Pulling, pulling, pulling Baschett, pulling
Kirk pulling Barger, I mean, are you trying to win
the game? Really? I mean, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Made a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, I was gonna say, then it can't it can't
play it all today. The only the only one that
I think might have been a little bit questionable, but
I understand it was was Barger because like, here's the thing, like,
you're not as the game is going. There's no way
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that you're anticipating an eighteen inning game. Uh, George Springer
got hurt, so that's a that's not even a question.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He had to come out of the game. Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Butshet, I guess he's you know, there was a that
was the umpire's fault that the umpire, I don't know.
The umpire needs to be someone needs to pull him
aside and say, hey, pal, you need to make the call,
like like if it's a strike, you got to make
the call. Because there was like four different scenarios where
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the batter did not realize it was a strike until after,
like like significantly later. And that's kind of what happened
to Bashett. People are going to be like, well, the
sheeck got caught off. It's like there no one knew
what was going on because he made that call so late,
but still, like Bashett, he had it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, he hasn't been around.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
The first base first base coach didn't even call him back,
so right, it was well it was Bashet's Paul he
and the first basis coach because you can't leave that
base until you know for a product that's a wall.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's yes, But what I'm saying is Brian I didn't
have a problem with him coming out and Kirk, what
are you going to have in catch eighteen innings like
that would have that would have been crazy, So.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Dight you can't take him out. Look, the Dodgers. The
Dodgers only took out two guys. They took out They
took out pahes for a call, which I understand because
call has decent batting average, and they took out Enrique Hernandez,
is one of the best postseason performers for Rojas, which
I thought was a bad move, but uh, you know,
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I mean, we can it's easy to say it's a
bad move after we after we know what happened in
the game, But when you take out two of your
best hitters, I mean, are you trying to win? Are
you trying to win.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
If Paz is in the starting line up today, tells
you all you need to know about the Dodgers manager.
He's clearly he's had like hit in the last thirty
eight batch or something. He's swinging up. He's trying to
hit a home rounds every single time, and he's popped
out every single time. He can't be in the lineup
right now. He's had a great season, sort of like
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the trying and thing a great pitcher in the past.
You can't let him in the game right now.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You shouldn't even be on the lot right So I
understand it. It's easy to nitpick all these moves, but honestly,
are you trying to win the game?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I mean, you can't think about tomorrow. You have to
win this game in front of you. That and I've
seen so many games, so many managers lose games trying
to win tomorrow's game today, and it's never gonna happen.
You can't win tomorrow's game today. Look that they were
both gonna empty out their bullpens. Heck, like you said
they were gonna use Yamamoto, who just pitched a complete game.
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So the pitching moves I'm not going to question anyone
on the pitching moves because they didn't have a choice.
Their hands were tied on the pitching moves. But I
don't know why you take the Shed out. I don't know,
you know, leave kirk in is a dh I mean,
you just can't the guy hit a home run in
the game. He's what if what if the Dodgers took
Freeman out, they wouldn't have won the game? Right? I mean,
leave your best hitters in the game, please, is all
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I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
All I'm saying, yeah, I got it, just like we
gotta get to a show.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I again, I don't have maybe leeve Barger in because
like I will say this the one to your point
that when it got to the fifteen sixteen seventh, seventeenth inning,
that that Blue Jay's lineup certainly felt light as you're
watching it turn over and then you get to the
end and it's like there's a spot where they can
get a big hit and you're going, Heineman Straw like
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that that was like, you know, the lineup felt light,
but you're obviously putting Miles Straw in for defense, and
you know he's he did. Everyone has a place so
you good question those moves. I I have really have
no problem with how that game went either way. It
was just a tremendous game and took to your point, Brian,
I'm gonna go to you to start this off. The
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convoluted nature of coming off an eighteen A game and
now having two games to play is actually probably gonna
make this. Now we're probably gonna be able to bet
these games because there's uncertainty, and that's the thing that
the books are gonna have. The line pegged in a
world series very rarely. Obviously we talked about yesterday. The
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line value was probably with the Blue Jays, but very little.
You know, they're gonna be able to shade it one
way or another, but it's they're usually gonna peg it. Well,
now you've got actually like there's a probably a couple
different ways into this, because how does Atomic respond from
having to play? What do you have nine at bats
and now he's got to pitch? You get you got
a laundry list of bullpen arms, some of which are available,
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some are which not on both sides. I think this
makes game four better. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I agree? I don't know what your process was, but
as the game's going on, we already knew what these
darting picture situation is going to be. And in my head,
you know, we've been doing this for so long. I
was I had a number, and I said, this is
the number it's going to be. And I'm a bit
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surprised by this number. Where you we're currently getting the Dodgers.
It's Bieber against Otani, and currently getting the Dodgers in
the two hundred range. I'm seeing anywhere from one ninety
five up ar t two twenty. You mentioned Otani. He's
on base nine times, had to run nine times, obviously
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he's an athlete, and two of them were dogs because
there were home runs. Just a fantastic situation for him.
And I walked five times in a row, four of
them intentional going down the Just just a tremendous thing.
And people are gonna look at that and they'll say, well,
here he is again, And how could you bet against Atani?
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I think I think Toronto's got some value here. I
wasn't expecting it. I was expecting a number closer to
the minus one eighty minus one seventy five, and it's
two dollars, And so that has me pointed towards the
underdog in this one. And when you take a look
at the stack cast numbers, obviously we've got Shane Bieber
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going out there, and a couple times I've gone against him,
but they're going to need a good audio out of
him because of all the usage yesterday. And he comes
in his regular season three point five seven ERA, four
point five seven expected one point two whip, and when
you take a look at the game logs for the playoffs,
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we're looking at basically he's coming in with a four
point three eighty RA a one point five four whip.
His whip has been poor, and as we talked about,
when you come back from major surgery like that, that's
your extra major problem. But he faced the Yankee, he
faced the Mariners, and he also faced the Mariners twice,
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so it will be the first time he is pitched
against the Dodgers, and he's given up two urn runs
in each of those games. But because of the situation
that we're in, I'm not afraid to use uh Bieber here.
He's uh, He's got a good ground ball percentage, doesn't
give up as many home runs. He's getting hit hard
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though He's berrel and hard hit rate on the season
of not being good and when you get to uh,
you know a town in your town has been great,
no doubt about it. So we've got two pitchers and
in the starting edges. Definitely with with the Dodgers, but
you know you got the Blue Jays team now they're
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starting the game back off other than Springer, who is
going to be out. You know that that's the major problem.
They're gonna have to bring in ty France to d
h and and go with Springer was dhing so that
doesn't hurt him in the outfield. They'll probably bring ty
France and alrighty going against Otani. So France when he
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does play, he has been okay. They added him. He's
very fresh because he didn't play in the last series,
last two serieses. I believe maybe maybe just last series.
But I like the situation here for Toronto, and I
said it yesterday. You get this far into the season,
the playoffs have been around. You know, this is the
third round, third round of the playoffs, and you've got
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got teams that are here for a reason. They've been
able to win on the road. So I'm looking at
the underdog here. I'm going to figure out trying to
figure out as the show goes on, which way we're
going to play. It depends on what you guys think.
But the Dodgers were lucky to get that victory last night.
Toronto would take a walk on a three and three ball.
Count Lucas three straight balls he's flying for if he
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takes one of those resolver and we don't worry about it.
So Steve's are total eavily matched. There's no way daughters
should be.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I agree with most of what Brian said. Uh, speaking
of taking walks, I did win my bet yesterday which
was glass now over one and a half walks, because
you know, if you look at how he's faced these
Blue Jays, he's walked three and four in his last
two starts against him. I thought one and a half
was really light, and he walked three in the end,
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I believe, even though they pulled him a little bit early.
So I think today's game is going to be kind
of who's less, who is less fatigued, and who's got
pictures who are fresh? And I think David in the
comments said it, well, you know, the the Blue Jays
still have Bassett. I think they used did they use
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Hoffman last night. I believe they did, but they've got
but they have Bassett, who's actually and and can give
them at least three or four innings in the middle
relief if they need him. So I kind of think
the Blue Jays have a bit of an advantage here today.
Otani's got to be a little bit tired, and to
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be honest, his his uh you said, Brian, like it's
like it's a matter of fact that the Dodgers have
the pitching advantage. But I don't know about that. Actually,
I think Bieber Biaber's got pretty good numbers against these guys.
But yes, on the surface, you're right, anyone looking would
say Otani's a better picture than Bieber. But Biaber's got
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great numbers against these guys in his career, fifty eight
at bats against, a one ninety average against and a
five seventy nine OPS. Those are really good numbers against
these Dodger batters. And after going eight at bats yesterday,
these guys are going to be a little fatigued, including Otani.
I wouldn't be surprised if Otani might not. Well, there's
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no way they can pull his bad out of the lineup.
But I he might get a little rest today, because
that's taxing to go eight at bats yesterday and then
pitch today and be that leadoff. That's I mean, he's
a unicorn. So if anyone can do it, it's him.
But I don't expect a lot of production out of him.
Hard to say that the guy who hit three home
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runs and struck out ten guys in his previous start.
But Otani's got pretty bad numbers against these guys. He's
got an eight to ten ops eight twenty ops against
these batters in his career. So I don't know. I
give the Blue Jays a little bit of an edge here.
They've got a guy who can go long middle relief
who's fresh, and I think fresh is going to be
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the key in this game today.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, there's a lot going on here.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
First off, I would say, like, I mean, if you
will get Otani's numbers offensively, there were twenty pitches like that,
you could go back the whole season, go through his
whole career his offensive numbers. I mean, now, granted you
would take you would take Otani in the lineup pitching
over most other major league players, but like it's a
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it's a fact that his offensive numbers dip a little
bit when he's on the mount, which which makes complete sense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Know why anyone would think that that would be any
different like when when he pitches. I mean, it's obviously
gonna be harder to have like a four to four
game with three jacks when you when you're also pitching
nine innings. So again, I don't think that that's like
some huge revelation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But when you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
About, you know, a guy that the Blue Jays literally
would did not want to pitch you even when, like
even when it was a matter of putting the winning
run on base at times. Last night, it's it's it's
worth bringing up here.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know. You look at the usage yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Like again, people are gonna I already see I've already
seen this on Twitter. Oh well they use like no,
they used all the pitching. It's like, let's let's relax
for a second. They used they did use a lot
of pitching. But you gotta remember that this is these
teams play one hundred and sixty two games in a year.
Oftentimes they will play fourteen days without a day off. Okay,
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anytime you're coming off of an off day, you're probably
you probably got some pitching. So I'm looking at it
like flu already can go today, Bassett could go. You know,
I think there was at least one that Blue Jays
didn't use at all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I could be wrong about that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Banda can go trying, can go dry, or can go
for the Dodgers. Kershaw only through eight pitches, so it's
like there's there's options there for me. Like I do
think you make a good point, TV, Like I do,
like I do like the idea of maybe Bassett coming
into this game at some point, but like there's no question,
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Oh Tani's a better pitcher than Shane Bieber, but this
is like I think I trust Shane Bieber in this
spot a little bit more like Shadier didn't have to
have have to have nine at bats yesterday. He's you know,
this is Otani's probably his first What would you say
that this is his first start in like a spot
of this magnitude, like because because really, like last you know,
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at any other point in the playoffs, he really hasn't
been in a spot this massive in my opinion, So like, is.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He gonna come out?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Is he is Otani in his head gonna feel like
he needs to give his team six seven innings because
of what happened yesterday. Like, those are all the questions
I'm asking myself here. You know, does he come out
to jacked up? He just got on.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Base nine times. He is the star of this team.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Now, okay, now we need you to go out and
give us a little length because we did have usage yesterday.
I think Bieber's much in a much better position to
do that because that's just what he's done his whole career.
So those are like the things that again, as I
talked this out with you guys, I'm with you, Brian,
I'm with you TV. I think there's value on the
Blue Jays, and I'm looking at by odd screen and
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this is this line continues to shoot up.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We like, what am I missing? Why does everyone think
the Dodgers did?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I think people are in the mindset and I'll go
around the horn here and see get your guys thoughts.
I think people are in the mindset that that loss
was so crushing to the Blue Jays that there's no
possible way they could come back and win today.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I totally disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking, also, have we had
not have we have we not seen the Blue Jays
through this entire playoffs with the heart that they have,
with the lineup one through nine that they have. Uh,
they were stuck. They made some managerial moves and nobody
knows that game is going eighteen things. So they were
stuck at the end with Miles Straw in the game,
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who should never be in the game unless he's a pitcher,
runner or but I understood that. I understood it. He's
a better defensive player. At the time, they had no
idea it was going to be, but they had. They
had all these guys in the game that would never
even play. The Dodgers are just the opposite. I think
he may his moves too late in the game. He
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doesn't change, he doesn't change the the players in the game.
He keeps him in there all game long. And you know,
I have not been impressed by either manager in these playoffs. Granted,
I think they know a lot more than I do.
I couldn't do what they do. As much as I
disparage Roberts, he's a better manager than I am. I'm
just going from the outside. He knows his players more
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than I do. I try to give everybody every benefit
of the doubt, but if you're Toronto, you're pretty upset
about the way that game played out. And he's gonna
tell me. He said, hey, you know you started the game,
he took some walks. As the game went on, you
wouldn't take any walks. And you know it was clear
that these you have to extend these starters because the
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Dodgers bullpen isn't nearly as good as the starting rotations.
She and had to pitch long yesterday. Kershaw they made.
I'm a big Kershaw and I'm glad he has success,
But if he's got a guy up there batting that
could take a ball, he's the loser of that game.
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And we hear the same shit about Kershaw that we've
heard in the playoffs for all these years. So this
is one of those games that could have gone either
way so many times. Just because you ended after eighteen
innings and this team hit the home run does not
mean that they were the better team through the entire game.
That was a game that was a coin flip through
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the entire game, and now you're given the team that
lost the coin flip has more motivation. This price I
don't buy it. I'm finding a way to play Toronto one.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Way or the other.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Here's the other side of the coin. They lose a
game like that, they need this one worse, so, you know,
I mean, maybe that's the extra motivation. I'm not a
big believer in the motivation factor though, because when these
guys are up at the plate looking at a ninety
mile an hour fastball and trying to crack it, they're
not thinking what happened yesterday. And also regarding fatigue, all
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of these guys, I've been around them. All of these
guys think in their head that they are Superman, that
they are indestructible. So the only the fatigue doesn't play
in your mind. The fatigue plays when you think you
can do something and physically you can't. It's like getting old,
you know, like like me, you know, I think I
can climb those stairs, but I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
So these guys think they can hit a home run
every time they're batting, right, they're Superman, They're the best
in the world. So I think oppositely that the defeat
was so crushing that they're gonna just lay down and die.
I think the opposite. I think that defeat was so
crushing they need this game even worse.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A couple comments, So Danny el Cabron is right. I
think Otani just cramped up. If he had a hams,
if his hamstring was tweet tea would not be he
would not be out running the basis.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That that as a as a in my athletic career,
which was mostly soccer. You know, as I got to
an older age, the worst injury I ever had was
with my hamstring. That that is, if you want the
second you do up your hamstring, you're not out there
just stealing bases, running the bases.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You are limping back in.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So I do think he's right about I think Danny
is right because someone else said hamstring injury. I think
Danny's right. I think he just cramped up. He also, Danny,
I'll go to your other comment, Will Smith caught the
entire game. Listen, look at will Smith and look at
Kirk next to each other, and you tell me which
one is in better shape to catch the whole game.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But it is a I mean, it's notable. And again like.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I I don't I don't mind the move there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What was the thing? I had another point I wanted
to make now ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I'm sorry. Kirk's bat is a lot more important than
his defense. So I would not pull Kirk out of
the game under any circumstance, even if you don't want
him catching. DHM, put your backup catcher in, but leave
his bat in the lineup, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Because because Smith had to catch all those innings, how
could he put him back at catcher today. They've got
to play a game tomorrow. Also, they won't they put
him at H. And he's got a gun, which helps
the Toronto running. I talked about this when they played Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
They can't.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Oh that's true, Well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He might sit well yeah, yeah, yeah, what do they do?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You know, these guys have played double headers and played
a game after a double header, right, so it's not
really that rare of a thing.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
They did a double header that's played straight through, that
had all the intensity of the World Series.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I understand that. Yeah, understood, taken. But uh yeah, these
guys think they're Superman. What they'll probably do is start
off with the same lineups they started off today. Their
strongest lineups will Smith catching as well and maybe sub
them out today. But with both I agree with Dave
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Roberts yesterday. And I don't say that very often because
I've always said he's he's the Angel Hernandez of managers.
But I agree with him leaving his starters industry because
you got to win today. You can't play for tomorrow,
and every time you play for tomorrow, you're gonna lose
today and tomorrow. So and I've seen it so many times.
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You have to win today and then deal with tomorrow
when it comes. That's just how you have to do it.
Out of great.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
If we're grading managers, like Roberts has been much better
in the playoffs than Schneider, I'm a higher manager grade
than Schneider, and I don't have it. I don't have
an issue with Schneider. I think listen, I will, but
as I am gonna say that because it's more complimentary
to Dave Roberts, I think he's had a pretty good
post season in terms of like the decisions he's made.
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And when you're you know, it's one of those things
where you're like, you know, Trigg, you're not a great driver.
Mallory's always like.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You're you're a terrible driver.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
But if I'm driving a Ferrari I'm gonna look pretty
good driving that car, right, So you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's kind of Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean, he's driving the Ferrari, So how bad can
you look?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
When it's like, well, I guess I'll just leave oh
Tani in the game Freeman, it's like, what do we decisions?
Strider's over here, Like, you know, I've got to make
some decisions if I want to win this game.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So it's not Apple Sapples. The thing.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
The point I couldn't remember that I wanted to say
was so TV back to your point about you're one
hundred percent right, no one, there's there's no lack of
motivation in the World series where the Blue Jays being
down to one as opposed to up to one comes
into play would maybe be a decision like Yama Modo
going into the game. I don't think you see the
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Dodgers worried about warming him up or doing anything like that.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
With a two to one lead in the series.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Now a one to one series where you are facing
the possibility of going down to one, knowing that Game
six and Games severn are on the road, the thought
process is different. The reason I bring that up is
because the Blue Jays are now in the They're in
a much more desperate scenario where I truly believe they
look at this.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Game and they're like, we gotta win today.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If we lose this one, beating this Dodgers team three
times in a row is going to be very difficult.
So and Schneider has shown that he'll go for broke,
So that's kind of you know, you want.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To talk about making a play here.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm probably gonna be on Blue Jays plus one and
a half because I love the fact.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That you're getting the visiting team getting the extra run.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And I think Schneider's got to go for broke here
because if he goes down three to one, the Dodgers
may be celebrating this world series on their home field
tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't know what the roles are. It's it's clear
that Springer is not going to play anymore in this series,
so you can replace them an injury replacement.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
They came into this and the and they brought in
an extra hitter and went with a less less amount
of pictures, which I thought was strange considering they were
going to have to play this condensed such schedule where
they would only have the travel day is their only
day off. If the Dodgers happened to win, they've got
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a chance to never go back to Toronto again. So I
think they can't sit still and say, well, hopefully Springer
comes back. They need to get spring around of there,
bring in another picture that could give them some innings,
so they if they if they do like I think,
they'll have a better situation in the bullpen than what
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they had yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Here's an interesting comment. Do you guys think after the
game yesterday? And thank you to made this comment, David Barker,
thank you for here. I'll highlight it'll hijack. So after
a game like that, do you think it tends to
an over and under today? My thoughts on this, because
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this is how I'm approaching the game is I think
at the beginning of the game, we're going to see
some fatigue from the hitters. But Bieber hasn't pitched for
a while. He's not fatigued at all. He feels fine. Oh,
Tany might be a little fatigued, but he is a
unicorn and he's just he's just a cyborg. So I
think under to start the game and then once we
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get into the sixth and seventh and eighth innings, the
guys who pitched yesterday coming back out, I think we're
going to see a little bit of fatigue there where
the runs start coming up. But like I said earlier,
we got what's his name, I'm losing my memory. Anyways,
I think the Blue Jays have a mid reliever that
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can come in who's very fresh. So that's why I
think they have the advantage there.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Here's my problem with the fatigue argument, and this is
what I'll go back to. Do you think guys are
more fatigued in August going from Boston down to DC
over to Tampa. Ten game in ten days, or the
fact that they stayed up till two am last night?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Like I just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I don't think you have like and this is the
World Sieries and they had yesterday off. I would sell
the fatigue the fatigue argument to like the players playing
in the game. I think there's there's two Like, clearly, O, Tommy,
you got nine times you have to pitch. That's not
I mean, who else has to deal with that? Who
else in the history of baseball has had to deal
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with that? They had nine at bats and then the
starting pitcher the next day. So that's the argument. That's
argument number one that it's legit. Argument number two is
just straight up bullpen usage, like you're gonna have guys
that threw enough pitches yesterday where they can not pitched today.
Outside of that, I don't want to hear about fatigue.
It's a World Series Game four. Everyone get yourself a
bang energy, and let's fucking everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I will say David Edgington talked about Santander. Santander's also hurt,
so he's not an answer. And to be honest with you,
I think I think the pitching is more important than hitting.
At this point, you've already got, You've already gotten in
your lineup. You know, you don't want to have to
play those batteries that they had to useless again at
the end of last night's game. So hopefully they everybody
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says healthy and they can get to their patch today.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Who notes on fatigued. I've seen so many guys at
the home run derby and they say that just tires
them the hell out to swing a bat over and
over and over again. So I I do think swinging
about that many times yesterday will get to you today
on your third and fourth at bat. I do think
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it'll play somewhat of a factor because they're not just
like they're not like with balling like we do when
we go out to the park. These guys are intensely
professionally swinging a bat. So that's one point. The other
point is they're human beings and sleep does matter. You're right,
you can. You can drink a twenty four energy or
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a monster or something like that and and and get
a little bit of a rush, but sleep matters. And
after a game like that, it's pretty hard to wind
down and get to sleep. So it might be a fable,
but I've seen too many guys at the home run Deer.
We say how much their arms hurt? Yeah, that's swing
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the bats.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah that's different. They're not swinging that hard that long.
I'm not as concerned about that. Ol Tomy did decay.
They caught him on the way to the dugout and
he said, like, what are you doing? He goes, I'm
going to bed. I mean, he's a guy that stripped.
Is a lot of Japanese players are. They're trained that way.
They've got to got that routine that you talk about
all the time on Tokyo and uh yeah, that was
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his major thought at the time. So I think you'll
be ready. But it does make a difference. We'll see,
we're guessing because we haven't seen this before and this situation,
so it's all a guest on our part. It's all
a guest for the manager's part. You know, they haven't
been in the situation. So I just love that game yesterday.
If we get anything close to that today, I'll be
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a heavy camp.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I think that the one So the one thing I
don't feel like i'm I'm is a guest for me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
At this point, we've now had three games in this series.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I don't think that there is any question in my mind,
there's any question like these are two very evenly matched teams,
and I think we'll go back to the point that
we'll go back to the point that Brian made very
early in the show. It's like I watched eighteen innings yesterday.
I've now seen these teams play three times. That game
could have been a coin flip. Really, any game in
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this I mean, Okay, so you go up like, yes,
the Blue Jays win big in Game one, the Dodgers
pull away in Game two.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We've now seen these teams play thirty.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Six innings so far in this series, right, eighteen yesterday
eighteen in the first two games. I'm not seeing a
huge difference between the two teams.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I think the bullpens are evenly matched.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I think there is you know, big time offensive players
on both sides.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Can you even like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
The defense was incredible yesterday? Everyone making plays. So when
you when you talk about it like that, I'm with you, Brian,
how are you getting to minus two? I'm watching this
go up still, it's like minus two fifteen, minus two, twenty.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I can only play back against that. I think i
gotta go Blue Jay's plus one and a half.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Here's a question, Uh, here's a question for you, guys.
I'd like to bounce it off for you. Do the
Dodgers have someone like Bassett that they can use today?
Who do you think because Dryer did pitch yesterday, but
it was short, I mean one pace, Yeah, he's he Oh,
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he just pitched one out.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Okay, one guy and he should have walked him.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Which again, if I'm the Jays, I'm like, I'm all
for that.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You want to throw Kershaw out there for an inn
and go ahead.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
You think Kershaw is better than Bassett or worse than Bassett,
though I think scenario.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I think Kershaw is worse than Bassett in this scenario,
I prefer Basket out of the bullpen for a couple
of innings over Kershaw of the bullpen for a couple
of innings.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That that's just I've never been to basket Bassett. I've
never been a huge basket fan. But he's, uh, he's
been on a pretty good run. And Kershaw, you know,
like I said, he doesn't have the best reputation in
the playoffs. I believe it's just a small sample size,
but in his head he's heard it before. And uh yeah,
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we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
But well, do the Dodgers have they can it's fresh
that can go middle relief though. I mean, the other point.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I want to make about that is I think bassett
stuff plays up in the relief role a little bit
more than Kershaws does. So that would be like if
you were, like, I think his stuff when he's only
going to be a couple of innings, like plays up
more than like Kershaw was on the ropes last night.
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I almost they still can't believe he got out of
that spot.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'm sorry, go go ahead. I just that that's one
point I wanted to make.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
That was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You think he gave him a call there. I'm trying
to remember that at that I know.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
I think they should not have the.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hitter swung at ball four at one point three times.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Yeah, I think calling the base runner out in that
situation when it wasn't clear if it was a ball
or strike at that point, I think that was a
poor call on the rest. I think they should have
left the base runner there in my opinion, but in.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
The early game, with it earlier, Yeah, they can't. They
can't do that. I mean, here was August. It was
his fall for going off the base. There's nothing in
Major League Baseball that says that could be challenged or
something like that. Where yeah, they whatever the call was,
they had to stick to that.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, that would have given him a one run lead.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that was a major mistake.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah, Kershaw got lucky. I think Trining got pretty lucky too.
A lot of guys got lucky. Like I said, I
don't blame the managers at all for any of the
pitching decisions. That they made. Why didn't they use Basket
yesterday instead of Little though, that's kind of curious.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Pitched yesterday.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Oh he pitched earlier. Okay, my mistake. Well, I knew
in Little when in that they were in trouble. Yeah,
kind surprised me and she and was amazing, I thought, so,
props to the Dodgers there. Do the Dodgers have someone
that can do middle relief like Bassett can today? Hmm?
Not sure. Dryer was used, but he can go longer.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Probably No, he went more in yesterday. Kershaw will be
one of the guys they could use.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Lesaki went one one in two thirds. He probably won't
unless it's another marathon game. She him went two point two.
She was a starter earlier in the season when they
had a lot of injuries. Roblelski or however, he.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I like the way they used him yesterday. He kept
him in the game for a while. I'm not even
sure they should have taken him out, to be honest
with you. Yeah, but he pitched very well. He's been
very good once the senters of the bullpen, once he
found his role, he's been very good for them.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And Enriquez was and Riquez was great too, and I
didn't even know about him. I mean, he came out
of nowhere and pitched well. So a lot of guys
stepped up yesterday and pitched well. So I again, I
don't blame managers for that, but man, you got to
keep your hitters in the game. You just got to
keep them in no matter what.
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Speaker 1 (41:07):
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Speaker 2 (41:10):
I couldn't think of like two worse football teams to
go down and watch. But that is a primetime game
on Friday night. I bet ESPN thought they were gonna
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Friday night earlier this year. But it will be just
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don't know, maybe maybe I'll be in attendance.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
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Speaker 2 (41:36):
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Speaker 5 (41:39):
Unfortunately Tom Brady is not quarterbacking at North Carolina. So
how about those Devils? Brian? Speaking of hockey man, the
Devils are on fire, aren't they really will too?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's yeah, a lot of interesting things in hockey. They've
got some teams that everybody had written off, and we've
got to We've got the names you's gotten off good
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Sometimes it happens a baseball too, We've we've seen it.
That's why I love betting baseball and hockey, because you
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can find good underdog value.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
I agree what Adam said earlier though. These teams are
very evenly matched. Two very shaky bullpens, two extremely powerful lineups.
Uh And I think the Dodgers' biggest advantage here is
the rotation. But like we've talked about, Otani might be
shaky today, and Bieber's numbers against these Dodgers really good
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in his history, So this line should not be minus
two hundred under any circumstance, in my opinion, and in
both of your opinions too.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Being the Devil's advocate, I will say those numbers were
back when before he had Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Nevertheless, I think he's going to be better. I don't know.
I won't say he's a better pitcher than Otani. But
I think he might pitch better today the notes on
me it's.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Possible, Yeah, I mean, I haven't bet it yet, but
to see this line go the direction it's going is
probably the most.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Surprising thing to me.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I thought for sure that like we would see like
blue Jay's money. Maybe we will at some point, But
the fact that this is now sort of minus two ten,
I truly believe that this game is going to come
down to a big spot one way or the other,
kind of like yet you know yesterday's game did and
if that happened and you've got the plus one and
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a half with the road team, I feel like there's
more often than not you're probably cashing that it's minus
like between minus one fifteen and minus one twenty right now.
I would love to get another like five to ten
cents on that. I don't that might be getting greedy
on my part, so maybe I'll lock it in soon.
But for just from a straight value perspective, I don't
know how you can look toward the Jays here that's.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Just really need it.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, they both it's the World Series. In the chat
talking to Hockey, I'd love to see that he's a
very good NFL handicapper, and yeah, another one of our
stars on Wait to Talk. So yeah, good luck to Jesse,
good luck to everyone. I gotta get out of here.
I got a hot wrap it up.
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All right, welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is Tuesday, it's five dollars Tuesday. It's time for
total basis. And I just got to sleep a few
minutes ago, and now I'm back up ready to talk baseball.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think that went till I think I finally fell
asleep around three o'clock Eastern, and here we are, nine
o'clock eastern, ready to talk about Game four. Not nearly
as big of a deal as the guys that have
to turn around and play this game after playing eighteen innings.
The Dodgers, of course get it done. If you were sleeping,
it did eventually end. The Dodgers walked it off none
(00:37):
other than Freddie Freeman. Of course he was going to
do that, and now the Dodgers have a two to
one lead in the series. John Burk in the chat says,
what a game. I really no other way to sum
it up. A tremendous game, in Brian Leonard, A game
that was played like, you know, we had a close
marathon game in the Mariners Tiger series that went fifteen innings,
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but this one was played at a high level throughout.
I think that might get a lot like there was
so many good there. It was like relay play to
cut down a run, big time hit pitchers game. I mean,
that was a game that was eighteen innings but played
at a high level the entire time.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It just really doesn't get better than that. It really was.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And for the first time in a while, the key
player in that game comes back and has to pitch.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Today, and it's I'm sitting there as I'm watching the game,
you know, if this happens whatever tomorrow, and the whole
time you're thinking, how is this going to affect the
next day?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And when you go back and you looked and basically
for the most part, both pitching staffs. I mean, Yamamoto
was in the in the bullpen, so he just pitched
a complete game two days ago. It tells you what
the playoffs are. And I just if you like high scoring,
you got the first half of the game. If you
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like pitching and tight you know defense, you got second
half of that game. That was probably one of the
greatest games I've ever seen in my life. And for
it to be in the playoffs, and we just talked
about this yesterday that they scheduled three straight days, so
that is going to really make a difference because a
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lot of these pitches. They had guys yesterday, go thirty
innings your close her for Toronto went with thirty pitches
or whatever yesterday. A lot of key guys may not
be available today, and so this is probably the most
convoluted handicap I can remember in a really long time.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, some props to give and some poops to give.
So first the props props to she and he impressed
me yesterday watching that game. I knew when Trying and
went in, I knew the Dodgers were in a little
bit of trouble. Of course, he gives up three hits
in it and run, of course. Uh, But I thought
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she had pitched really well. Uh. And I also kind
of knew as soon as Little winning the game. I've
been bad mouthing Little since the postseason started. I knew
when he went in the Dodgers won this game. So
and he did, And that's exactly what happened. Yeah, man,
managerial mistakes. I mean, there's no excuse to pull Springer,
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Boschett and Kirk.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, he'll be off for the rest of the series.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I would guess, all right, Pulling, pulling, pulling Baschett, pulling
Kirk pulling Barger, I mean, are you trying to win
the game? Really? I mean, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Made a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, I was gonna say, then it can't it can't
play it all today. The only the only one that
I think might have been a little bit questionable, but
I understand it was was Barger because like, here's the thing, like,
you're not as the game is going. There's no way
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that you're anticipating an eighteen inning game. Uh, George Springer
got hurt, so that's a that's not even a question.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He had to come out of the game. Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Butshet, I guess he's you know, there was a that
was the umpire's fault that the umpire, I don't know.
The umpire needs to be someone needs to pull him
aside and say, hey, pal, you need to make the call,
like like if it's a strike, you got to make
the call. Because there was like four different scenarios where
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the batter did not realize it was a strike until after,
like like significantly later. And that's kind of what happened
to Bashett. People are going to be like, well, the
sheeck got caught off. It's like there no one knew
what was going on because he made that call so late,
but still, like Bashett, he had it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, he hasn't been around.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
The first base first base coach didn't even call him back,
so right, it was well it was Bashet's Paul he
and the first basis coach because you can't leave that
base until you know for a product that's a wall.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's yes, But what I'm saying is Brian I didn't
have a problem with him coming out and Kirk, what
are you going to have in catch eighteen innings like
that would have that would have been crazy, So.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Dight you can't take him out. Look, the Dodgers. The
Dodgers only took out two guys. They took out They
took out pahes for a call, which I understand because
call has decent batting average, and they took out Enrique Hernandez,
is one of the best postseason performers for Rojas, which
I thought was a bad move, but uh, you know,
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I mean, we can it's easy to say it's a
bad move after we after we know what happened in
the game, But when you take out two of your
best hitters, I mean, are you trying to win? Are
you trying to win.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
If Paz is in the starting line up today, tells
you all you need to know about the Dodgers manager.
He's clearly he's had like hit in the last thirty
eight batch or something. He's swinging up. He's trying to
hit a home rounds every single time, and he's popped
out every single time. He can't be in the lineup
right now. He's had a great season, sort of like
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the trying and thing a great pitcher in the past.
You can't let him in the game right now.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You shouldn't even be on the lot right So I
understand it. It's easy to nitpick all these moves, but honestly,
are you trying to win the game?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I mean, you can't think about tomorrow. You have to
win this game in front of you. That and I've
seen so many games, so many managers lose games trying
to win tomorrow's game today, and it's never gonna happen.
You can't win tomorrow's game today. Look that they were
both gonna empty out their bullpens. Heck, like you said
they were gonna use Yamamoto, who just pitched a complete game.
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So the pitching moves I'm not going to question anyone
on the pitching moves because they didn't have a choice.
Their hands were tied on the pitching moves. But I
don't know why you take the Shed out. I don't know,
you know, leave kirk in is a dh I mean,
you just can't the guy hit a home run in
the game. He's what if what if the Dodgers took
Freeman out, they wouldn't have won the game? Right? I mean,
leave your best hitters in the game, please, is all
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I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
All I'm saying, yeah, I got it, just like we
gotta get to a show.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I again, I don't have maybe leeve Barger in because
like I will say this the one to your point
that when it got to the fifteen sixteen seventh, seventeenth inning,
that that Blue Jay's lineup certainly felt light as you're
watching it turn over and then you get to the
end and it's like there's a spot where they can
get a big hit and you're going, Heineman Straw like
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that that was like, you know, the lineup felt light,
but you're obviously putting Miles Straw in for defense, and
you know he's he did. Everyone has a place so
you good question those moves. I I have really have
no problem with how that game went either way. It
was just a tremendous game and took to your point, Brian,
I'm gonna go to you to start this off. The
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convoluted nature of coming off an eighteen A game and
now having two games to play is actually probably gonna
make this. Now we're probably gonna be able to bet
these games because there's uncertainty, and that's the thing that
the books are gonna have. The line pegged in a
world series very rarely. Obviously we talked about yesterday. The
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line value was probably with the Blue Jays, but very little.
You know, they're gonna be able to shade it one
way or another, but it's they're usually gonna peg it. Well,
now you've got actually like there's a probably a couple
different ways into this, because how does Atomic respond from
having to play? What do you have nine at bats
and now he's got to pitch? You get you got
a laundry list of bullpen arms, some of which are available,
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some are which not on both sides. I think this
makes game four better. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I agree? I don't know what your process was, but
as the game's going on, we already knew what these
darting picture situation is going to be. And in my head,
you know, we've been doing this for so long. I
was I had a number, and I said, this is
the number it's going to be. And I'm a bit
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surprised by this number. Where you we're currently getting the Dodgers.
It's Bieber against Otani, and currently getting the Dodgers in
the two hundred range. I'm seeing anywhere from one ninety
five up ar t two twenty. You mentioned Otani. He's
on base nine times, had to run nine times, obviously
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he's an athlete, and two of them were dogs because
there were home runs. Just a fantastic situation for him.
And I walked five times in a row, four of
them intentional going down the Just just a tremendous thing.
And people are gonna look at that and they'll say, well,
here he is again, And how could you bet against Atani?
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I think I think Toronto's got some value here. I
wasn't expecting it. I was expecting a number closer to
the minus one eighty minus one seventy five, and it's
two dollars, And so that has me pointed towards the
underdog in this one. And when you take a look
at the stack cast numbers, obviously we've got Shane Bieber
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going out there, and a couple times I've gone against him,
but they're going to need a good audio out of
him because of all the usage yesterday. And he comes
in his regular season three point five seven ERA, four
point five seven expected one point two whip, and when
you take a look at the game logs for the playoffs,
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we're looking at basically he's coming in with a four
point three eighty RA a one point five four whip.
His whip has been poor, and as we talked about,
when you come back from major surgery like that, that's
your extra major problem. But he faced the Yankee, he
faced the Mariners, and he also faced the Mariners twice,
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so it will be the first time he is pitched
against the Dodgers, and he's given up two urn runs
in each of those games. But because of the situation
that we're in, I'm not afraid to use uh Bieber here.
He's uh, He's got a good ground ball percentage, doesn't
give up as many home runs. He's getting hit hard
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though He's berrel and hard hit rate on the season
of not being good and when you get to uh,
you know a town in your town has been great,
no doubt about it. So we've got two pitchers and
in the starting edges. Definitely with with the Dodgers, but
you know you got the Blue Jays team now they're
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starting the game back off other than Springer, who is
going to be out. You know that that's the major problem.
They're gonna have to bring in ty France to d
h and and go with Springer was dhing so that
doesn't hurt him in the outfield. They'll probably bring ty
France and alrighty going against Otani. So France when he
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does play, he has been okay. They added him. He's
very fresh because he didn't play in the last series,
last two serieses. I believe maybe maybe just last series.
But I like the situation here for Toronto, and I
said it yesterday. You get this far into the season,
the playoffs have been around. You know, this is the
third round, third round of the playoffs, and you've got
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got teams that are here for a reason. They've been
able to win on the road. So I'm looking at
the underdog here. I'm going to figure out trying to
figure out as the show goes on, which way we're
going to play. It depends on what you guys think.
But the Dodgers were lucky to get that victory last night.
Toronto would take a walk on a three and three ball.
Count Lucas three straight balls he's flying for if he
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takes one of those resolver and we don't worry about it.
So Steve's are total eavily matched. There's no way daughters
should be.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I agree with most of what Brian said. Uh, speaking
of taking walks, I did win my bet yesterday which
was glass now over one and a half walks, because
you know, if you look at how he's faced these
Blue Jays, he's walked three and four in his last
two starts against him. I thought one and a half
was really light, and he walked three in the end,
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I believe, even though they pulled him a little bit early.
So I think today's game is going to be kind
of who's less, who is less fatigued, and who's got
pictures who are fresh? And I think David in the
comments said it, well, you know, the the Blue Jays
still have Bassett. I think they used did they use
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Hoffman last night. I believe they did, but they've got
but they have Bassett, who's actually and and can give
them at least three or four innings in the middle
relief if they need him. So I kind of think
the Blue Jays have a bit of an advantage here today.
Otani's got to be a little bit tired, and to
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be honest, his his uh you said, Brian, like it's
like it's a matter of fact that the Dodgers have
the pitching advantage. But I don't know about that. Actually,
I think Bieber Biaber's got pretty good numbers against these guys.
But yes, on the surface, you're right, anyone looking would
say Otani's a better picture than Bieber. But Biaber's got
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great numbers against these guys in his career, fifty eight
at bats against, a one ninety average against and a
five seventy nine OPS. Those are really good numbers against
these Dodger batters. And after going eight at bats yesterday,
these guys are going to be a little fatigued, including Otani.
I wouldn't be surprised if Otani might not. Well, there's
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no way they can pull his bad out of the lineup.
But I he might get a little rest today, because
that's taxing to go eight at bats yesterday and then
pitch today and be that leadoff. That's I mean, he's
a unicorn. So if anyone can do it, it's him.
But I don't expect a lot of production out of him.
Hard to say that the guy who hit three home
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runs and struck out ten guys in his previous start.
But Otani's got pretty bad numbers against these guys. He's
got an eight to ten ops eight twenty ops against
these batters in his career. So I don't know. I
give the Blue Jays a little bit of an edge here.
They've got a guy who can go long middle relief
who's fresh, and I think fresh is going to be
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the key in this game today.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, there's a lot going on here.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
First off, I would say, like, I mean, if you
will get Otani's numbers offensively, there were twenty pitches like that,
you could go back the whole season, go through his
whole career his offensive numbers. I mean, now, granted you
would take you would take Otani in the lineup pitching
over most other major league players, but like it's a
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it's a fact that his offensive numbers dip a little
bit when he's on the mount, which which makes complete sense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Know why anyone would think that that would be any
different like when when he pitches. I mean, it's obviously
gonna be harder to have like a four to four
game with three jacks when you when you're also pitching
nine innings. So again, I don't think that that's like
some huge revelation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But when you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
About, you know, a guy that the Blue Jays literally
would did not want to pitch you even when, like
even when it was a matter of putting the winning
run on base at times. Last night, it's it's it's
worth bringing up here.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know. You look at the usage yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Like again, people are gonna I already see I've already
seen this on Twitter. Oh well they use like no,
they used all the pitching. It's like, let's let's relax
for a second. They used they did use a lot
of pitching. But you gotta remember that this is these
teams play one hundred and sixty two games in a year.
Oftentimes they will play fourteen days without a day off. Okay,
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anytime you're coming off of an off day, you're probably
you probably got some pitching. So I'm looking at it
like flu already can go today, Bassett could go. You know,
I think there was at least one that Blue Jays
didn't use at all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I could be wrong about that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Banda can go trying, can go dry, or can go
for the Dodgers. Kershaw only through eight pitches, so it's
like there's there's options there for me. Like I do
think you make a good point, TV, Like I do,
like I do like the idea of maybe Bassett coming
into this game at some point, but like there's no question,
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Oh Tani's a better pitcher than Shane Bieber, but this
is like I think I trust Shane Bieber in this
spot a little bit more like Shadier didn't have to
have have to have nine at bats yesterday. He's you know,
this is Otani's probably his first What would you say
that this is his first start in like a spot
of this magnitude, like because because really, like last you know,
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at any other point in the playoffs, he really hasn't
been in a spot this massive in my opinion, So like, is.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He gonna come out?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Is he is Otani in his head gonna feel like
he needs to give his team six seven innings because
of what happened yesterday. Like, those are all the questions
I'm asking myself here. You know, does he come out
to jacked up? He just got on.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Base nine times. He is the star of this team.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Now, okay, now we need you to go out and
give us a little length because we did have usage yesterday.
I think Bieber's much in a much better position to
do that because that's just what he's done his whole career.
So those are like the things that again, as I
talked this out with you guys, I'm with you, Brian,
I'm with you TV. I think there's value on the
Blue Jays, and I'm looking at by odd screen and
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this is this line continues to shoot up.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We like, what am I missing? Why does everyone think
the Dodgers did?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I think people are in the mindset and I'll go
around the horn here and see get your guys thoughts.
I think people are in the mindset that that loss
was so crushing to the Blue Jays that there's no
possible way they could come back and win today.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I totally disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking, also, have we had
not have we have we not seen the Blue Jays
through this entire playoffs with the heart that they have,
with the lineup one through nine that they have. Uh,
they were stuck. They made some managerial moves and nobody
knows that game is going eighteen things. So they were
stuck at the end with Miles Straw in the game,
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who should never be in the game unless he's a pitcher,
runner or but I understood that. I understood it. He's
a better defensive player. At the time, they had no
idea it was going to be, but they had. They
had all these guys in the game that would never
even play. The Dodgers are just the opposite. I think
he may his moves too late in the game. He
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doesn't change, he doesn't change the the players in the game.
He keeps him in there all game long. And you know,
I have not been impressed by either manager in these playoffs. Granted,
I think they know a lot more than I do.
I couldn't do what they do. As much as I
disparage Roberts, he's a better manager than I am. I'm
just going from the outside. He knows his players more
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than I do. I try to give everybody every benefit
of the doubt, but if you're Toronto, you're pretty upset
about the way that game played out. And he's gonna
tell me. He said, hey, you know you started the game,
he took some walks. As the game went on, you
wouldn't take any walks. And you know it was clear
that these you have to extend these starters because the
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Dodgers bullpen isn't nearly as good as the starting rotations.
She and had to pitch long yesterday. Kershaw they made.
I'm a big Kershaw and I'm glad he has success,
But if he's got a guy up there batting that
could take a ball, he's the loser of that game.
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And we hear the same shit about Kershaw that we've
heard in the playoffs for all these years. So this
is one of those games that could have gone either
way so many times. Just because you ended after eighteen
innings and this team hit the home run does not
mean that they were the better team through the entire game.
That was a game that was a coin flip through
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the entire game, and now you're given the team that
lost the coin flip has more motivation. This price I
don't buy it. I'm finding a way to play Toronto one.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Way or the other.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Here's the other side of the coin. They lose a
game like that, they need this one worse, so, you know,
I mean, maybe that's the extra motivation. I'm not a
big believer in the motivation factor though, because when these
guys are up at the plate looking at a ninety
mile an hour fastball and trying to crack it, they're
not thinking what happened yesterday. And also regarding fatigue, all
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of these guys, I've been around them. All of these
guys think in their head that they are Superman, that
they are indestructible. So the only the fatigue doesn't play
in your mind. The fatigue plays when you think you
can do something and physically you can't. It's like getting old,
you know, like like me, you know, I think I
can climb those stairs, but I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
So these guys think they can hit a home run
every time they're batting, right, they're Superman, They're the best
in the world. So I think oppositely that the defeat
was so crushing that they're gonna just lay down and die.
I think the opposite. I think that defeat was so
crushing they need this game even worse.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A couple comments, So Danny el Cabron is right. I
think Otani just cramped up. If he had a hams,
if his hamstring was tweet tea would not be he
would not be out running the basis.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That that as a as a in my athletic career,
which was mostly soccer. You know, as I got to
an older age, the worst injury I ever had was
with my hamstring. That that is, if you want the
second you do up your hamstring, you're not out there
just stealing bases, running the bases.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You are limping back in.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So I do think he's right about I think Danny
is right because someone else said hamstring injury. I think
Danny's right. I think he just cramped up. He also, Danny,
I'll go to your other comment, Will Smith caught the
entire game. Listen, look at will Smith and look at
Kirk next to each other, and you tell me which
one is in better shape to catch the whole game.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But it is a I mean, it's notable. And again like.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I I don't I don't mind the move there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What was the thing? I had another point I wanted
to make now ahead.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I'm sorry. Kirk's bat is a lot more important than
his defense. So I would not pull Kirk out of
the game under any circumstance, even if you don't want
him catching. DHM, put your backup catcher in, but leave
his bat in the lineup, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Because because Smith had to catch all those innings, how
could he put him back at catcher today. They've got
to play a game tomorrow. Also, they won't they put
him at H. And he's got a gun, which helps
the Toronto running. I talked about this when they played Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
They can't.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Oh that's true, Well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He might sit well yeah, yeah, yeah, what do they do?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You know, these guys have played double headers and played
a game after a double header, right, so it's not
really that rare of a thing.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
They did a double header that's played straight through, that
had all the intensity of the World Series.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I understand that. Yeah, understood, taken. But uh yeah, these
guys think they're Superman. What they'll probably do is start
off with the same lineups they started off today. Their
strongest lineups will Smith catching as well and maybe sub
them out today. But with both I agree with Dave
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Roberts yesterday. And I don't say that very often because
I've always said he's he's the Angel Hernandez of managers.
But I agree with him leaving his starters industry because
you got to win today. You can't play for tomorrow,
and every time you play for tomorrow, you're gonna lose
today and tomorrow. So and I've seen it so many times.
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You have to win today and then deal with tomorrow
when it comes. That's just how you have to do it.
Out of great.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
If we're grading managers, like Roberts has been much better
in the playoffs than Schneider, I'm a higher manager grade
than Schneider, and I don't have it. I don't have
an issue with Schneider. I think listen, I will, but
as I am gonna say that because it's more complimentary
to Dave Roberts, I think he's had a pretty good
post season in terms of like the decisions he's made.
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And when you're you know, it's one of those things
where you're like, you know, Trigg, you're not a great driver.
Mallory's always like.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You're you're a terrible driver.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
But if I'm driving a Ferrari I'm gonna look pretty
good driving that car, right, So you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's kind of Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean, he's driving the Ferrari, So how bad can
you look?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
When it's like, well, I guess I'll just leave oh
Tani in the game Freeman, it's like, what do we decisions?
Strider's over here, Like, you know, I've got to make
some decisions if I want to win this game.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So it's not Apple Sapples. The thing.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
The point I couldn't remember that I wanted to say
was so TV back to your point about you're one
hundred percent right, no one, there's there's no lack of
motivation in the World series where the Blue Jays being
down to one as opposed to up to one comes
into play would maybe be a decision like Yama Modo
going into the game. I don't think you see the
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Dodgers worried about warming him up or doing anything like that.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
With a two to one lead in the series.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Now a one to one series where you are facing
the possibility of going down to one, knowing that Game
six and Games severn are on the road, the thought
process is different. The reason I bring that up is
because the Blue Jays are now in the They're in
a much more desperate scenario where I truly believe they
look at this.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Game and they're like, we gotta win today.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If we lose this one, beating this Dodgers team three
times in a row is going to be very difficult.
So and Schneider has shown that he'll go for broke,
So that's kind of you know, you want.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To talk about making a play here.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm probably gonna be on Blue Jays plus one and
a half because I love the fact.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That you're getting the visiting team getting the extra run.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And I think Schneider's got to go for broke here
because if he goes down three to one, the Dodgers
may be celebrating this world series on their home field
tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't know what the roles are. It's it's clear
that Springer is not going to play anymore in this series,
so you can replace them an injury replacement.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
They came into this and the and they brought in
an extra hitter and went with a less less amount
of pictures, which I thought was strange considering they were
going to have to play this condensed such schedule where
they would only have the travel day is their only
day off. If the Dodgers happened to win, they've got
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a chance to never go back to Toronto again. So I
think they can't sit still and say, well, hopefully Springer
comes back. They need to get spring around of there,
bring in another picture that could give them some innings,
so they if they if they do like I think,
they'll have a better situation in the bullpen than what
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they had yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Here's an interesting comment. Do you guys think after the
game yesterday? And thank you to made this comment, David Barker,
thank you for here. I'll highlight it'll hijack. So after
a game like that, do you think it tends to
an over and under today? My thoughts on this, because
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this is how I'm approaching the game is I think
at the beginning of the game, we're going to see
some fatigue from the hitters. But Bieber hasn't pitched for
a while. He's not fatigued at all. He feels fine. Oh,
Tany might be a little fatigued, but he is a
unicorn and he's just he's just a cyborg. So I
think under to start the game and then once we
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get into the sixth and seventh and eighth innings, the
guys who pitched yesterday coming back out, I think we're
going to see a little bit of fatigue there where
the runs start coming up. But like I said earlier,
we got what's his name, I'm losing my memory. Anyways,
I think the Blue Jays have a mid reliever that
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can come in who's very fresh. So that's why I
think they have the advantage there.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Here's my problem with the fatigue argument, and this is
what I'll go back to. Do you think guys are
more fatigued in August going from Boston down to DC
over to Tampa. Ten game in ten days, or the
fact that they stayed up till two am last night?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Like I just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I don't think you have like and this is the
World Sieries and they had yesterday off. I would sell
the fatigue the fatigue argument to like the players playing
in the game. I think there's there's two Like, clearly, O, Tommy,
you got nine times you have to pitch. That's not
I mean, who else has to deal with that? Who
else in the history of baseball has had to deal
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with that? They had nine at bats and then the
starting pitcher the next day. So that's the argument. That's
argument number one that it's legit. Argument number two is
just straight up bullpen usage, like you're gonna have guys
that threw enough pitches yesterday where they can not pitched today.
Outside of that, I don't want to hear about fatigue.
It's a World Series Game four. Everyone get yourself a
bang energy, and let's fucking everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I will say David Edgington talked about Santander. Santander's also hurt,
so he's not an answer. And to be honest with you,
I think I think the pitching is more important than hitting.
At this point, you've already got, You've already gotten in
your lineup. You know, you don't want to have to
play those batteries that they had to useless again at
the end of last night's game. So hopefully they everybody
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says healthy and they can get to their patch today.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Who notes on fatigued. I've seen so many guys at
the home run derby and they say that just tires
them the hell out to swing a bat over and
over and over again. So I I do think swinging
about that many times yesterday will get to you today
on your third and fourth at bat. I do think
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it'll play somewhat of a factor because they're not just
like they're not like with balling like we do when
we go out to the park. These guys are intensely
professionally swinging a bat. So that's one point. The other
point is they're human beings and sleep does matter. You're right,
you can. You can drink a twenty four energy or
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a monster or something like that and and and get
a little bit of a rush, but sleep matters. And
after a game like that, it's pretty hard to wind
down and get to sleep. So it might be a fable,
but I've seen too many guys at the home run Deer.
We say how much their arms hurt? Yeah, that's swing
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the bats.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah that's different. They're not swinging that hard that long.
I'm not as concerned about that. Ol Tomy did decay.
They caught him on the way to the dugout and
he said, like, what are you doing? He goes, I'm
going to bed. I mean, he's a guy that stripped.
Is a lot of Japanese players are. They're trained that way.
They've got to got that routine that you talk about
all the time on Tokyo and uh yeah, that was
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his major thought at the time. So I think you'll
be ready. But it does make a difference. We'll see,
we're guessing because we haven't seen this before and this situation,
so it's all a guest on our part. It's all
a guest for the manager's part. You know, they haven't
been in the situation. So I just love that game yesterday.
If we get anything close to that today, I'll be
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a heavy camp.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I think that the one So the one thing I
don't feel like i'm I'm is a guest for me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
At this point, we've now had three games in this series.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I don't think that there is any question in my mind,
there's any question like these are two very evenly matched teams,
and I think we'll go back to the point that
we'll go back to the point that Brian made very
early in the show. It's like I watched eighteen innings yesterday.
I've now seen these teams play three times. That game
could have been a coin flip. Really, any game in
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this I mean, Okay, so you go up like, yes,
the Blue Jays win big in Game one, the Dodgers
pull away in Game two.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We've now seen these teams play thirty.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Six innings so far in this series, right, eighteen yesterday
eighteen in the first two games. I'm not seeing a
huge difference between the two teams.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I think the bullpens are evenly matched.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I think there is you know, big time offensive players
on both sides.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Can you even like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
The defense was incredible yesterday? Everyone making plays. So when
you when you talk about it like that, I'm with you, Brian,
how are you getting to minus two? I'm watching this
go up still, it's like minus two fifteen, minus two, twenty.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I can only play back against that. I think i
gotta go Blue Jay's plus one and a half.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Here's a question, Uh, here's a question for you, guys.
I'd like to bounce it off for you. Do the
Dodgers have someone like Bassett that they can use today?
Who do you think because Dryer did pitch yesterday, but
it was short, I mean one pace, Yeah, he's he Oh,
(35:02):
he just pitched one out.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Okay, one guy and he should have walked him.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Which again, if I'm the Jays, I'm like, I'm all
for that.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You want to throw Kershaw out there for an inn
and go ahead.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
You think Kershaw is better than Bassett or worse than Bassett,
though I think scenario.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I think Kershaw is worse than Bassett in this scenario,
I prefer Basket out of the bullpen for a couple
of innings over Kershaw of the bullpen for a couple
of innings.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That that's just I've never been to basket Bassett. I've
never been a huge basket fan. But he's, uh, he's
been on a pretty good run. And Kershaw, you know,
like I said, he doesn't have the best reputation in
the playoffs. I believe it's just a small sample size,
but in his head he's heard it before. And uh yeah,
(35:49):
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
But well, do the Dodgers have they can it's fresh
that can go middle relief though. I mean, the other point.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I want to make about that is I think bassett
stuff plays up in the relief role a little bit
more than Kershaws does. So that would be like if
you were, like, I think his stuff when he's only
going to be a couple of innings, like plays up
more than like Kershaw was on the ropes last night.
(36:17):
I almost they still can't believe he got out of
that spot.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'm sorry, go go ahead. I just that that's one
point I wanted to make.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
That was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You think he gave him a call there. I'm trying
to remember that at that I know.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
I think they should not have the.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hitter swung at ball four at one point three times.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Yeah, I think calling the base runner out in that
situation when it wasn't clear if it was a ball
or strike at that point, I think that was a
poor call on the rest. I think they should have
left the base runner there in my opinion, but in.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
The early game, with it earlier, Yeah, they can't. They
can't do that. I mean, here was August. It was
his fall for going off the base. There's nothing in
Major League Baseball that says that could be challenged or
something like that. Where yeah, they whatever the call was,
they had to stick to that.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, that would have given him a one run lead.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that was a major mistake.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah, Kershaw got lucky. I think Trining got pretty lucky too.
A lot of guys got lucky. Like I said, I
don't blame the managers at all for any of the
pitching decisions. That they made. Why didn't they use Basket
yesterday instead of Little though, that's kind of curious.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Pitched yesterday.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Oh he pitched earlier. Okay, my mistake. Well, I knew
in Little when in that they were in trouble. Yeah,
kind surprised me and she and was amazing, I thought, so,
props to the Dodgers there. Do the Dodgers have someone
that can do middle relief like Bassett can today? Hmm?
Not sure. Dryer was used, but he can go longer.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Probably No, he went more in yesterday. Kershaw will be
one of the guys they could use.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Lesaki went one one in two thirds. He probably won't
unless it's another marathon game. She him went two point two.
She was a starter earlier in the season when they
had a lot of injuries. Roblelski or however, he.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I like the way they used him yesterday. He kept
him in the game for a while. I'm not even
sure they should have taken him out, to be honest
with you. Yeah, but he pitched very well. He's been
very good once the senters of the bullpen, once he
found his role, he's been very good for them.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And Enriquez was and Riquez was great too, and I
didn't even know about him. I mean, he came out
of nowhere and pitched well. So a lot of guys
stepped up yesterday and pitched well. So I again, I
don't blame managers for that, but man, you got to
keep your hitters in the game. You just got to
keep them in no matter what.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
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Speaker 5 (39:10):
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I have something out already, and I'm sure these guys
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Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, I have a football game going today. I have
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I have a those getting those plays usually cost twenty
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(40:31):
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Speaker 2 (40:34):
If it's if you see in a Major League baseball play,
it's going to be Blue Jays plus one and a half,
So just save save you the five bucks that that
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Speaker 1 (40:42):
This baseball game.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We've got a Korean a Korean series fair version of
the World Series Game three, which will go early in
the morning. If I haven't played there, that could be
a five dollars play. And what we'll see about a
football play? I don't know what player. You know what
we have on Friday? Someone someone just invited I had
a friend like U invite me to the Syracuse UNC
(41:06):
game on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm just an absolute thriller right there. I mean I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I couldn't think of like two worse football teams to
go down and watch. But that is a primetime game
on Friday night. I bet ESPN thought they were gonna
get much better when when that game was scheduled on
Friday night earlier this year. But it will be just
too dreadful. ACC programs battling it out there, and I
don't know, maybe maybe I'll be in attendance.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I haven't decided yet, but was a good coach.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, q's hasn't been much better the fact that their
favorite there.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Unfortunately Tom Brady is not quarterbacking at North Carolina. So
how about those Devils? Brian? Speaking of hockey man, the
Devils are on fire, aren't they really will too?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's yeah, a lot of interesting things in hockey. They've
got some teams that everybody had written off, and we've
got to We've got the names you's gotten off good
starts and toy hockey is a hockey. Hockey is very
evenly matched. You could see a four dollars favorite lowise.
Sometimes it happens a baseball too, We've we've seen it.
That's why I love betting baseball and hockey, because you
(42:13):
can find good underdog value.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
I agree what Adam said earlier though. These teams are
very evenly matched. Two very shaky bullpens, two extremely powerful lineups.
Uh And I think the Dodgers' biggest advantage here is
the rotation. But like we've talked about, Otani might be
shaky today, and Bieber's numbers against these Dodgers really good
(42:37):
in his history, So this line should not be minus
two hundred under any circumstance, in my opinion, and in
both of your opinions too.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Being the Devil's advocate, I will say those numbers were
back when before he had Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Nevertheless, I think he's going to be better. I don't know.
I won't say he's a better pitcher than Otani. But
I think he might pitch better today the notes on
me it's.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Possible, Yeah, I mean, I haven't bet it yet, but
to see this line go the direction it's going is
probably the most.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Surprising thing to me.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I thought for sure that like we would see like
blue Jay's money. Maybe we will at some point, But
the fact that this is now sort of minus two ten,
I truly believe that this game is going to come
down to a big spot one way or the other,
kind of like yet you know yesterday's game did and
if that happened and you've got the plus one and
(43:33):
a half with the road team, I feel like there's
more often than not you're probably cashing that it's minus
like between minus one fifteen and minus one twenty right now.
I would love to get another like five to ten
cents on that. I don't that might be getting greedy
on my part, so maybe I'll lock it in soon.
But for just from a straight value perspective, I don't
know how you can look toward the Jays here that's.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Just really need it.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, they both it's the World Series. In the chat
talking to Hockey, I'd love to see that he's a
very good NFL handicapper, and yeah, another one of our
stars on Wait to Talk. So yeah, good luck to Jesse,
good luck to everyone. I gotta get out of here.
I got a hot wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Wrap it up five dollars Tuesday at wager Talk. Check
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and we will be with you here tomorrow for Game
five no matter what. So uh, we'll see you guys
in the morning for more total bases. Enjoy the game tonight,
maybe a nine inning game. I don't know if I
(44:45):
can do another eighteen inning game and come do a
show on Wednesday. So let's go for maybe a nine
inning game tonight and we'll see you guys in the morning.
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