March 26, 2025 • 50 mins
Want to embrace Quantum Shifting as you Unlock Your Potential for Massive Change in your mental health in today's stressful world? Join host NaRon Tillman on Walk in Victory for an in-depth conversation with emotional intelligence expert Pankaj Singh. This episode explores practical mindfulness techniques, including box breathing, and delves into Singh's personal journey from aggression to mindfulness through Indian percussion and Tibetan meditation practices. Discover how to cultivate leadership presence, emotional agility, and a strong sense of purpose. Singh offers actionable advice for integrating micro-practices into daily life, empowering you to transform your life by being present and mindful. Plus, just as Singh emphasizes the importance of creating a mindful environment for personal growth, we believe in investing in quality comfort. That's why we're proud to partner with Cozy Earth, offering premium bedding and loungewear designed to enhance your well-being and promote restful sleep. Visit cozyearth.com and use our exclusive code VICTORY1 to enjoy an incredible 40% off.
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Key Takeaways:
- The importance of mental health and mindfulness in today's world.
- Practical mindfulness techniques, including box breathing.
- Singh's personal journey from aggression to mindfulness.
- The connection between mindfulness, leadership presence, and emotional agility.
- Actionable advice for integrating micro-practices into daily life.
- 00:00 Introduction and Greetings
- 00:55 Public Service Announcement
- 01:31 Mental Health and Social Climate
- 02:25 Teaching Movement and Mental Strength
- 05:08 Guest Introduction and Emotional Intelligence
- 09:20 Mindfulness and Leadership
- 18:16 Practical Exercises for Mindfulness
- 24:30 Challenges in Modern Mindfulness Practices
- 28:39 Introduction to Transformative Tools
- 28:56 The Leadership Compass Framework
- 29:56 Daily Practices for Transformation
- 32:05 The Progress Framework
- 33:04 Repurposing Time for Growth
- 38:29 The Importance of Purpose and Stress Assessments
- 44:56 Breathwork and Manifestation Techniques
- 49:38 Conclusion and Call to Action
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're spending twenty hours a day telling yourself you're
not worth it, You're not going to get it. Everything
is bad. What is going to happen? You're just writing
your own future.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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the time you're listening or were you're listening from? Shaboy
your host and Laura tell me, and.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You are waiting for another episode of Walk in Victory,
Speaking of victory walk.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
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You may not want to evolve. Then tune into another
bleeping podcast. Everyone else enjoy the show. And here's our host.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I don't know the time you're listening or were
you're listening from.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's your boy, you're hosting r tell me and you
are with me for another episode of Walk in Victory.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Speaking of victory, walks have to take you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'll hear it now.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Consideration our mental health, especially in this climate, So what's
going on around us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It doesn't matter if you read or blue or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The hyperverbally that's going around, Social security, mass fireman's deportations
on top of all of the other stuff that you
got going on in your own personal life brings up
(01:32):
inks and anxiety. We have employees that are looking for employers,
employers that's looking for employees, people not showing up, people
just scared, they don't know what to do, and how
we deal with the mentality. I just got through teaching
my class and I was talking to my seniors. When
(02:02):
I first started teaching movement Yellow movements, I thought it
was about the physical body, that's the external. As I
got better, I started to realize that it was the
non material body. That's the part that you don't see.
(02:25):
If I can think myself to be strong, then I'll
be strong. If I think that I'm weak, then I'm
always going to be weak, even if I have the
physical strength, just having a body. I grew up in
the streets, and I'll bring myself. I've seen guys come out.
(02:51):
We used to call them cock diesel. He's probably got
stands to do all that. And the little boy, little
skinny dude, me and him with big because in his mind,
her mind, they're hot teaser, they strong.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Boom.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It might not be just one boom. It might have
to be a combination of booms is when you when
you small and foot, you do certain things hit him
in the ribs and then say, everybody, go for the
smallest part. That not showing y'all how to fight. But
I'm just telling you what. And you see the big
guy with a way because internally, maybe maybe he didn't
(03:41):
strengthen his core, maybe his arms are too tight and
he can't extend. It's a lot of things that go
into it. So what I'm saying is the same thing
that I'm into health. Yeah, you may not have came
from a prestigious family, may don't have a lot of
(04:04):
money in your bank account, but how are you approaching
life through the lens of what it is that you
already have? Because we all bring something tangible to the table.
Use your twos, it could be agility, use your tuoes,
it could be your strings.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You could be the dude.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But learn how they extend the balms, learn how to
keep a person up off you, and learn how to
take somebody blows sing how.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You doing good? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But so when we talk about mental the mentality, we're
going to get dive deep into that. I want you
to express to our audience what it is that you
do and what it is that you've been through to
get you to the place where you are. One of
the masters are helping others uncurr these things that we
(04:55):
just listen it to.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So in a nutshell, I am an emotional intelligence expert.
In last five to seven years, the explosion in digital
world has trained most of us to not focus more
than twelve seconds. Okay, what is the least amount of
time that you can focus? Twelve seconds? When in twelve
(05:18):
seconds you can take two breaths, Right, and that's all
you need to start your leadership journey, to start your
we get so hung up in what we desire to
get in the future. We get so emotionally carrying the
(05:43):
bag of every experience we have in the past that
we forget the fundamental human present experience that matters.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So I help cultivate five minute presence power or superpower
for leaders and teams and through the frameworks that I
have developed for both personal as well as organizations, to
get them to two simple things. One understand and realize
(06:21):
what is your purpose? What is the best you have
to give to others? There's always something. You just have
to think a bit, work a bit, and you get
out of there. There's a first ever assessment out there
that we have started teaching people on finding purpose. It's
(06:43):
a twenty minute assessment and one session nineteen minutes, we
can sit down and write your flag strategy. So I
just launched my first book, Ascendancy awakeant One thing I've
learned is use of work that sticks, and I had
to be very precise of why I chose certain words.
(07:07):
So the book I released is Ascendency Awaken a surprising part.
It is a surprising path because you already have it.
You just have to take that two breadth and come
in the presence, check in with you, and come in
the presence your point of mindset. You can have all
(07:27):
the body, you can have all the ribs, right, but
if you don't check in with yourself every moment you do,
you're gonna get numbed out.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Something that was a famous fight and because we talked
about mindset, Muhammad Ali was fighting and I don't go,
I'm going on.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
This whole pack.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's I'm pretty sure they turn together. I trust my energy.
Mohammada only was fighting George Forman, m brush Froman was
knocking people out. Boom boom, Muhammad I league put up
his dag like this, and Jeorge Frueman was here, But
(08:15):
how long did you do this? How long did you just?
Right before you know, George Trumman is tired and.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Then he gets one mom.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Archeologically he said, I'm hitting him with everything and he
won't go down him. Muhammed a lead like I got
him I water. So it's a thing of Captain bows.
Right when we talked about mindset mentality, because one one
guy is saying, I'm deserting all of my energy to
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the other, I'm saying I knew that if I could
get him past a certain moment.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I teach you mine from this singioga.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm going to say, go where your paint, where the
pain threshold is at, and then we're going to take
micro movements. See if you can get past the threshold.
But if you can't, it's okay. It may take three weeks,
take four weeks, it may take five weeks, but we're
(09:21):
going to keep moving towards the pain threshold, moving towards
the traumatic experience in your brain and when you when
your body tenses up. Now we're going to start identifying
what happens when you're done. What happens in what happens.
And so when we talk about micro movements, how much
(09:42):
can we get out of those micro reps? Because I
know I'm saying micro movements, and now we want to
do how much can we get out of the micro
breast so we can start identifying where the trauma lit
lace in our body.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We all all of our bodies after trauma.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Absolutely, and it is such a a simple process. Right,
human body is the best engineering marvel ever. Bit right
to your point, each cell in our body has its
own brain. Right, So when you talk about trauma, when
you talk about that pain, that pain that exists in
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your different parts of your body is connected to emotion
and a thought in your brain. So every time you
take that break and sets check in for two seconds,
the goal is for you to become the observer and
not a participant. Right. And when you bring that concept,
(10:48):
when you bring that concept to life with people as
a leader, when you bring that concept, if you get
in a meeting and the statistics that we have done
research with ten thousand plus hours, and it's so disturbing,
seventy five percent of leaders in corporate life, no matter
what kind of industry, no matter which country, because my
(11:12):
program is all over the map, no matter at what level.
Seventy five percent of leaders are not present in the
first five to ten percent of the meeting. Think about that, right,
It is not only loss of productivity, it is disrespecting
(11:36):
to the people who have come prepared to present yourselfing. Right,
and we all know the first few minutes interaction creates
the quorum for rest of the meeting or rest of
the show. You have to gather and connect with people.
(11:57):
And how will you do it if you have not
children with yourself?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We all live our life in autopilots. All the No,
I mean the last fluff you had? Do you remember
the paste, the flavor, the temperature. No, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
No. I was watching a movie and the guy said
it was called The Menu. It's a bit of a
dark movie. But in the beginning he says, I don't
want you to eat the food. Yeah, I want you
to take the time absorb mhm, the flavors, the mixtures.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So this is what you this is what you do.
How did you come about to get to this place? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, that's that's that's a good one, and I think
the formation of the proper program started in uh late
twenty twenty early twenty one. So I was chief technology
office in a company and we had a full blown
ransomware attack and with the right mindset, with the right
(13:07):
team and the right partners, we were able to come
out of that in thirty forty arts without being that
sun right. So that was a big thing, and it
just speak of COVID, and then we had to orchestrate
the hundreds of people who are working from home right
how to change their devices so that it's all clean now.
And you know, it was a lot of work. But
(13:28):
what happened after that I got invited in a podcasts
and interviews, and after the fifth or six interview, I
had to sit down and think through we're not traveling
at that time, so we give me enough time to
reflect the type of quotions and being asked. It is
very common sense for me, White people are asking this
kind of quotions, right. And then I started looking at
(13:53):
at a very early age, fourteen years old. I was
very aggressive kid growing up, and my parents gave me
introduced me to Indian percussion music classical and I had
already done postmasters of classical Indian percussion by the age
of thirteen fourteen. But my aggressiveness was not going away.
So they've had me go to tippet with tu Alama
(14:15):
and really two and a half months in summer I
spend my time learning my full cactus. But that became
a second habit for me. I never thought that, you know,
it would be so impactful fast forward, I have. When
I started looking back in twenty twenty one, that was
not the only incidance. I saw how there were multiple
(14:37):
incidences where I had gone through something that was very
different just because of the techniques that I could use.
And the other thing I observed, interestingly, every time I
had a success in building a powerful team, I had
taught every one of them Michael practices and that's where
(15:03):
I brought everything together as a framework.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But but you know, you know what's funny, It's like,
I don't want to out your age. How long have
you been practicing?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Thirty years?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Sorry, thirty years, So I've been I've been most of
the same thirty years. So I started in a different
but it's still still over said. We think that because
we see through our lens, we think that everybody knows
this this is going to go off the beaten rails.
(15:41):
How do you feel when you see these gurus taking
these simple practices and making them more complex, doing thirty
day trials, seminars and so I don't want to project
(16:02):
my filming thoughts, but how do you feel they now
project my feelings afterwards?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I want to get your film.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So I'll put it this way. I always teach everyone
to learn to appreciate limitation, suffer them. I don't want
to say anything that hurts anybody's shore, right, That's that's
how they're earning their bread. That's how they're live, earning
their lively, right. So I'm not any who guess that.
But the fact about mindful practice is it starts with
(16:30):
simple breathing. It's not about dancing and rotating and getting
into postures on your head right. I would rather I
would rather have you go and do gymnasium exercise. I
would rather have you go do a very dancing right
things that because it still can pick motion right, things
(16:54):
that you can get the emotions out. And I see
the I don't want to use the word frustration, but
it's very close to that kind of definition of frustration.
When I get when people come to me and I
start talking to like, Oh, I have been doing in
yoga for three years and this is okay. If you
have been doing yoga for three years, can you do
me a quick favor? Can you just do a simple
(17:17):
thirty six second box breathing? What is that? Can you
just take a breath counter four, hold for a counter four,
release for a counter fold, and hold for count. Just
do it for imputations. Have you ever done that? Oh?
(17:38):
I have never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Everyone, So this is important and I want to slow
down right here because this is what you want to
get the meat out of the bond. I learn the
importance of brand h early on in mynd in my journey,
(18:02):
But when I learned the importance of breadth because I
had really good teachers. The first breath that you've learned
for you can any complications. It's what they call box breathing.
And why they sing do they call it box?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
They call it box because two reasons. One, that's not
an if. If you go back to the history of
yoga and meditations, it's called something else, right, But it's
called box breathing because it is like a box for
each side on four and you're doing it four counts,
so it's like and you have new four deputations, right,
that's one full cycle. That's why it's called box breathing.
(18:48):
I would say, I have done this from the stage.
I've done this in seminars, I've done this in workshops
in one of montha chain. If you become honest with
yourself and the first box breathing full sighted eighty five
percent of the time, you will realize how loud, how
(19:08):
loud your brains. Right, if I ask someone just to
close your eyes and inhale and exhale and just feed
your breath nothing else, you will see how much data
is being processed in our brain every microsecond, and we
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are not using it. We are not using the power
of the senses that we have been given.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's funny that you said that.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So today I was doing the class, right, and I
am my singers, and I'm teaching them down. So I'm like,
put all of your weight on a heel of your
left foot, so we breathe in lift the right foot
of the ground.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
They to lift the right foot of the ground without
the chair.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They seem so we it's supposed to be cheer yoga,
but I'm not gonna be there doing cheer yoga, like,
let's do something, let's get something going on, right, And
when I say close your eyes, the thing that they
could do with their eyes open, they couldn't do with
their eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And the same movement, it's the same breath.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Mhm, it's the same.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What happens when we.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Close our eyes even taking up doots breath, We're gonna
use that.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's going to be our foundation. Taking that box breath.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
When a person will now they start to close their eyes,
what happens to the mind.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
The mind starts to do what Okay, so the mind
starts to excrete No, it's not because here, here, here
is a foundational thing on that, right, and it's a
it's a it's a very very very basic, but very
important thing. People forget. Even though we are living on autopilot, right,
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one of our senses is doing the real guard for
our life. And for people who have visioned, the eye
is doing that fully right. So the first alert that
you get something wrong in your autopilot, it's through your vision,
through your eyes, right, So when you close your eyes,
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you just let go of your guards, and the brain
is saying that, hey, where is my guard rain. I
cannot run an autopilot. So the moment your brain is
now breaking out of autopilot, it's trying to go into
everything that has ever calculated, ever thought, ever recorded to
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figure out how to react to this right Because your
eyes are closed, you're not speaking, You're a way right
now at that point when you focus just on the
air coming in and out of a nostrils and forcing
your brain to count one two three four one two
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three four, that is the training. That is the first
mindful training that you gave your brain to come out
of autopilot. Think how effective your hour will be if
every startup power you checked in with yourself. Just by
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that right you you turned off the autopilot of your brain.
Focus and yeah, by focusing, by closing your eyes and
focusing on the brain. The moment you close the autopilot
of the brain, what does that mean? You have all
the information being registered from all your five senses to
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use in the moment. And if I do this exercise,
sometimes I'll meet people that cafeteria or having coffee. There's
a very common exercise. I recommend you to try it.
So it's fun. So you go to a shop, you
sit down you get your coffee right, two or three people,
and then I will ask them to do this exact
thing for thirty six seconds, and I'll ask them, don't
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open your eyes up to that right now, you from
your nose nostrils moves over to your ears and you
can very quick in that thirty six seconds, you can
listen to multiple sounds that you were not really string before.
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So it's is very powerful. It's just that how do
you go step by step, one step at a time,
micropractices and make it a life that you're supposed to
death in the present. And that's another frustration.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I have another question, but I would be a frustration.
I want to hear these frustrations.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So the other first session I have is whether I
said down with people are a very common statement. You
will get Hey, that is not my past experience, that
is not I have planned for future. I always say, okay,
forget past the future. What are you experiencing right now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, so so oh, I'm glad that you brought that
up because that let me get my first question out,
because now you're ppping into some stuff that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
We're about to get.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
All Right, anybody who who's listening, if you don't want
to get nervy, then turn it off.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But we're about to get deep and nerdy. Can we
get deep a little bit saying I got you?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So we're conditioned in America, we're planned to get into
the one mentality?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The world?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Won is a low viperational word.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Although we're talking about micro movements, you're you're helping the
person to get out of a want mentality, which is always.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Focused on past.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Or future yep, into an M mentality, which is focused
even for.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Two seconds in the present.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
In the present.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's so difficult for us to get focused on the
N mentality from a one mentality because everything we consume
is either honoring something that happened or excited about the expectation.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Expectations.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, if I'm focused on something that happened, the Holocaust happen.
So the what mentality will always person eights mhm. Wouldn't
you look at.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
The culture, when you look at the things that's gone around.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
In the culture, what how you chip away? Because we
talked about micro movements, where we still talk about movement
mm hm, Yes, just put the move into accelerate a movement.
How do you chip away what is something the twos
and techniques that you had to learn to articulate to
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people that's always looking at that lives.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
In wan, Right, I want to, I want to? I
wanted to? Did this? I want to? I want I
want to?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So I think that that's it's a it's a true part,
very big question better. Right. So the first part of
that is talking about the way we are conditioning. And
it's unfortunate that in today's day and age, with all
information and able to us, the only time because is
(27:04):
when something bad happens. Right, and when I say bad
not in sense of relativity that right, an accident happens,
everybody stops. Everybody wants to see that. But if there
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is a cheerity going on, only people involved in that
event will be watching that, not people were just passing by.
Why you don't want to enjoy, You don't want to
participate in the fun things that's happening in front of you,
and you just want to focus on things that brings
(27:49):
suffering to something. Right, So when you talk about conditioning,
it's very deep conditioning that we have to start undoing
using those micro practices. Right. So that's one part of it.
When you talk about tools, they are two very specific
framework that I always have people use, and I believe
(28:13):
in transformation in action. Right, So I'll give this tool
out to your audience that's listening today. You can use
one of two methods. The first method is going through
a proper framework. Right. So, there is a leadership compass
that I have put together. It has got four cardinals.
The first cardinal is presence power, the second cardinal direction
(28:38):
is emotional agility, the third one is cognitive clarity, and
the fourth one is action.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So if you just stay with the concept of micro
movement and micro exercise, micro breathing and for that two seconds,
if you can be present in the moment, right, you
will have if ability to modulate your emotions the moment
you are able to modulate your emotions, you are able
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to have clarity in your thought and whatever action you
take will be transformational. So that's one. Then people tell me,
this is a very common question by the way, that Okay,
what is that I can do on a daily basis.
That's not like I have to you know, take out
the yoga mat every hour, or I have to go
(29:31):
to a retreat, or I have to write a book
and a novel. I said, no, no, you don't have
to do anything. Just start doing this. Start doing six
times in a day. Put a reminder on your cloth.
Let it be at least one hour gap between each exercise,
no matter what you're doing. When the cloth rings, just
(29:53):
talk what a way you're doing, and ask yourself two
simple questions. What is the outcome of this activity that
I'm participating in and what else I could be doing
if I was not doing this? Just this one exercise.
You'll be amazed at how many leaders and team members
(30:16):
have come and told me that you took care of
my digital addiction, because it ties. The next time you
pick up something to scroll, you should be first question
should be what am I getting out of it? You're
searching for something, you're trying to find something, you're doing
some research. Those things are pertinent. But if you're just
(30:37):
gazing for twelve seconds. Every twelve seconds, you're just moving
your finger without being actively present. See even if you
are an auto pilot, right, So what else I could
be doing when I'm not doing that? So that's first thing.
Whatever that thought is. Take a piece of paper and
I say, foresting an index card and right down in
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that moment, I am grateful for three words. So by
doing this exercise, what you get think about the cardinal
directions I talked about the moment you do self check
in right, you have control on your emotions quality, and
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you did not waste time. You put your time to
do something creative, something more affirmative, something better. I was
getting this workshop and I talk about the progress framework.
The progress is purpose, reflection, organizing, great resilience, empowerment, support
and self discipline. And the reason I had to put
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that framework together is because in today's day and age
with everybody has everything available on their fingertips. But the
problem is they are looking word from their eyes what
you mentioned earlier, right, they are looking from their viewpoint,
so they can create a different definition together. And if
I'm working with a team, then I have to bring
the entire team to that level. So I created that framework. Now,
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purpose is what is the best you have to give
to others? That is your purpose in life. Right. The
reflection is when you start doing that. Micro Journaling is
what I call that small journaling. I check in every
hour of journaling and then comes organizing. Organizing is what
are the small things that you can do in your
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life on a daily basis to make a difference. So
I'm doing this workshop with traveling nurses. Okay, this is
about a year back, right around I would say spring
last year, and I go through this whole framework, and
one of the traveling nurses says, hey, saying I'm a
coast tenness. I said, sure, so I am the sole
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bread earner in my family. To get to my next
level where I can truly get to my purpose, I
have to do some certification. But I have to go
and read and learn some things. I'm running always with
my traveling job, and I don't have time to participate.
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I'm sure you guess my question. So my question is
how do you travel? Oh? I drive or I take
a train out of us? What it is? I said, Okay,
what do you do in those two hours? Nothing? Right?
Can those two hours in fact be repurposed? Right? Listening
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something again and again, and if you listen to a
chapter three times, you'll remember the exact.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Chapter for God's sake, right, Yeah, yeah, you know it's
talking that. You said that, and I really appreciate you
coming on and sharing. You've got someone understand if you
apply it's a little bit of this stuff that we
just talked about. You just got to master the class
for free on on on how how to bury yourself.
(34:01):
And we're going to talk about the book and all
of those other things too. But people want to change overnight.
So the phenomenon of what you're talking about micro you're
not saying it won't transform you. It just won't happen overnight.
(34:26):
So we repurpose our time. I did a I'm I'm
working on a book, and I did a class called
the Mindful Marketer on a listenable app. And one of
the things that we discussed it doesn't work for people
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who like if you're a construction worker, if you're a musician,
because your time frame is really stuck in a certain form.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You'd have to think outside of that so you can
be My first business was construction.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
If you asked me to hand you certain tools, I
don't know it. My business was construction. I didn't have
to know how to lay breaks. It's a difference in mindset.
(35:26):
If you gave me a job right now to this day,
all I would have to do is go cruise around
home deepot and look at the number prices for about
twenty and thirty minutes, and I can give you an estimate.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I don't need three days. I know what it takes to.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Do a job because when the number prices go up,
that's when else go up, the lumber prices.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So you just acted, Okay, this is what we have.
I'm calling you. I can tell you right.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Now, this is what is. This is the estimated price.
Because we're talking about estimation.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
But you know how many micro movements that I had
to get to that place? Where have muscles were now there?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
So talk about how a micro movement take you from
the journey.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Bring the journey.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
If I bring you into my organization, somebody listen and
bring you into the orgization. How many days of journeying
do you spend with them, hours, moments, minutes, and what
what do they because I know you take inventory, what
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are sences when you finished?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So a couple of things on that. That's again a
fully lot of question for me because they have even
much to it, right, So I'll start I'm trying to
go through the way you started. People trying to change overnight. Yes,
I can almost guarantee, I can almost bet and challenge
and am open for any individual to take this challenge
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with me. If you commit to doing just two things.
I just said that every hour you do a check
in and you write one sentence at that point, and
you do that for three straight days, then I want
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to sit on with you and go through the inventory.
In that inventory that you documented yourself. You did it,
nobody else. You are doing it when you have checked in.
You're doing it in your consciousness, right, not an auto
pilot that tells the path that you should be on. Right. So,
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when I get involved with individuals or means, the very
first step is some kind of baseline. Because I believe
in stats. I believe in data. Anything that cannot be
measured cannot be improved. It's as simple as that, right.
So I had to create workbooks and tests to start
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creating baseline of stress. One interesting fact, there is any
company where the senior leadership has got a higher stress
level individually, that company is not performing financially. No matter
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who is humming up and how good everybody is. If
the senior leadership team has a higher stress on that
baseline question that we do financially, they're losing. Think about
it for a second, right second, If the people leader
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in the organization. People leader not necessarily a position, a
person that has responsibility of managing people in the organization.
If they don't have clarity in their own purpose. Mm hmm, right,
they are the most what we term as polluting leaders.
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They are all over the place, They cannot give give
a clear direction. They are only good for micromanaging.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Ye want to make sure we call Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, why Yeah, That's that's why leadership, right, I mean,
if you just look at those fundamentals, right, that's why
every engagement that we have we start with those two
simple tools. One is a purpose assessment for Indian inividuals
and a stress assessment. Right, it's black and white at
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that one.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, okay, this is why we are walking victory have
conversations to help you evolutionize. It's black and white stress
or what's the other one? It's a stress and the
other one I can purpose if you don't know. First
(40:28):
of all, So when I was doing my child or certification,
we went through this whole session on I am itself.
I started preaching when I was twenty four, and one
of the heavy theological lessons I is the Iamic nature
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of Christ. So we're talking Christ, I am and in
the Book of John and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
This is not religious. I have a religious podcast. Want
treat you some podcasts.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
But that lesson when we dealing with the I AM
nature of Christ, just to show you how micro movements.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Some ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Later, when I'm doing i AMS and a chroper certification
from our meditation all crystallized, I was like, oh, because
when we were doing.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Theology, we were looking outward.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Christ the curtain or the fictian person with a house.
I'm past that, and we don't believe that. You don't
believe in the last that doesn't matter. But historically we
can take that book, look at that and now when
fifteen maybe twenty years later it was fifteen years I'm
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doing that I Am and all the sin.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah. So I do a lot of preaching myself. The
special lessons have bought a hole following on that one.
But I don't remember the exact phrase. But in Bible,
I think it's in in in one of the John's
things that it says, as you think.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
So should happen.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, right, I mean that is so deep. If you
are an autopilot, you have lost your capability to think.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
If you have lost the capability to think. How can
you imagine outcomes?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
If the system is sorry, the system is.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Create it suck out the imagination. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, And even if you go back, and I tell people,
if you get ever in your life, to become a
true leader, one book you have to read is the
twenty one Laws of Leadership. And in that just read
the first law law of live right. And I said,
that is so basical humanity. Right as you think, so
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shall happen.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
As such as a man think you solf shall be.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
M And then if you're spending twenty hours a day
telling yourself you're not worth it, you're not going to
get it. Everything is bad. What is going to happen?
You just writing your own future?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, as a self conscious mind is going to run
on all of power and get you yourself.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
God.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
So one point thing I'll tell you, said, I said,
so people go through my workshop and they start meditating,
and then they'll come back here. Don't all this meditation
but nothing is happening. I said, no, it is not
important for the hours you sat down. It matters after that,
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every breath that you're taking, what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You know what's funny saying.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
And then because you're a practitioner and you can tell
my audience will happened to me.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So I teach you breath work. M h.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I start by four by four, when he moves to
six by six, finally get people that eight y.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Because the body. So my first introduction.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Of birth work was to pakua mm hmm, hold the
breath so that the pause can open up. And when
you when you start to hold your break for a
certain amount of time, your heartbreak increases. Everything starts to
happen you. You get nervous, and then there's a sense
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of content wants you fast that some people can't push fast,
crazy in their nervousness.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Right, And that's why I start always with a small
fourth breath. So you brought something important. And like I'm
always about giving, right, I'm always giving out truths to
people fear cox. I mean, they don't have to come
to my seven ars and webinars. So I'll give another one. Right.
So people talk about manifestation, right, there's a did that work?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
What you said?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
They're talking it wrong, And so I don't use the
word manifestation, but I tell them, if you really want
an answer of something that you are immensely involved in
and worried about. You have to do only one thing,
any activity that you're doing, hopefully you're not driving at
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that time, but walking, sitting, lying down, whatever, Take normal breath,
right and for ten fifteen seconds, and take a deep
breath and hold as long as you can, and then
(46:10):
slowly release it and again hold your breath. What is happening?
I talked about the census earlier. Right, The brain is
always waiting for oxygen. The moment you cut that oxygen unexpectedly, right,
unexpectedly is you're not doing any exercise. You're not doing
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anything that the brain is saying, Okay, I'm expecting this.
You're normally breathing, and suddenly you start it bring goes
into fight and flight more for itself and says, I
will give you whatever you want. So all it is
doing is the thought that you have for which you're
wanting answers. It's looking at its entire data it has
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collected in your lifetime and tells you an answer. I
know it's very deep.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
No, No, that's but that's good because that's exactly what
I'm saying when you start holding your bread. But most
people can't push past their fight.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, six to eight.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
They can't push past it because they start to get nervous.
Nothing's going to happen, is only going to batter you, right,
So we talk with the micro the micro restore the box,
Go get the boat.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
What's the name of the books? Thing?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Sorry, all of the information is in our description description.
Hit the link in the description, so I don't know
if you notice like and our description has the thing.
And when I introduce the guests, there's.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
A line under it. That line will.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Take you to the website. The website will take you
to the book book. We'll take you to all the
same social media, to social media. Who will bring you
into sings, Echo fear. What happens is whoever you listen to.
We just talked about that. Whenever you read gets into
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the census, then it starts the center rehearsing. I can
tell you about your algorithms, what you're into, but that's
a whole nother story. We have conversations that evolve lives
sing thank you for coming on. He's now a part
of walking Victory family. I've only asked that you hit
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We just gave you a whole wealth knowledge, your like,
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people that need it.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
That ship trying to say to.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Me and my target for twenty twenty five, My personal
goal for twenty twenty five is to get one minute
mindful micropractice to two hundred and fifteen thousand people. So
every person that you can share with, every person adds
to that count of to fifty thousand. So I'll sincerely
(49:23):
appreciate you guys passing it on to hers. Everyone needs
a minute of mindful practice. A minute from mindful practice.
All right, So I'm gonna put you on the spots
saying I want you to come back and will work through.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
This will be a working right, will do a session
because your sessions are micro. It's not oh yeah yeah,
if you're listening, we're gonna do that. We're gonna work
it out. I'm talking about a lot right now. Still,
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will work through so that people can.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Learn.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
You can watch my full experience. I'll give you how
I'm feeling it and I'm going to be totally honest.
When I come in and when I come out, the structures,
so you'll have real working understanding because he has the stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That he can share with you. But you need to
hear it from.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
People like, yeah, people experiencing it.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Absolutely, Absolutely, I'm experiencing I want I want you to
hear because Sing gives. Sing is a man of accountability
and as you know, he's a man of knowledge. And
they don't want making excuses. You don't need want man
to change your life. Don't want breathe it through your
mouth because when you breathe through your mouth, you bring
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disease into your body that don't have hairs for a reason.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
As we get older, is get longer because we need
more filter. Enjoy the rest.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Thank you, Thank you,
If you're spending twenty hours a day telling yourself you're
not worth it, You're not going to get it. Everything
is bad. What is going to happen? You're just writing
your own future.
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Speaking of victory, walks have to take you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'll hear it now.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Consideration our mental health, especially in this climate, So what's
going on around us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It doesn't matter if you read or blue or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The hyperverbally that's going around, Social security, mass fireman's deportations
on top of all of the other stuff that you
got going on in your own personal life brings up
(01:32):
inks and anxiety. We have employees that are looking for employers,
employers that's looking for employees, people not showing up, people
just scared, they don't know what to do, and how
we deal with the mentality. I just got through teaching
my class and I was talking to my seniors. When
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I first started teaching movement Yellow movements, I thought it
was about the physical body, that's the external. As I
got better, I started to realize that it was the
non material body. That's the part that you don't see.
(02:25):
If I can think myself to be strong, then I'll
be strong. If I think that I'm weak, then I'm
always going to be weak, even if I have the
physical strength, just having a body. I grew up in
the streets, and I'll bring myself. I've seen guys come out.
(02:51):
We used to call them cock diesel. He's probably got
stands to do all that. And the little boy, little
skinny dude, me and him with big because in his mind,
her mind, they're hot teaser, they strong.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Boom.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It might not be just one boom. It might have
to be a combination of booms is when you when
you small and foot, you do certain things hit him
in the ribs and then say, everybody, go for the
smallest part. That not showing y'all how to fight. But
I'm just telling you what. And you see the big
guy with a way because internally, maybe maybe he didn't
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strengthen his core, maybe his arms are too tight and
he can't extend. It's a lot of things that go
into it. So what I'm saying is the same thing
that I'm into health. Yeah, you may not have came
from a prestigious family, may don't have a lot of
(04:04):
money in your bank account, but how are you approaching
life through the lens of what it is that you
already have? Because we all bring something tangible to the table.
Use your twos, it could be agility, use your tuoes,
it could be your strings.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You could be the dude.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But learn how they extend the balms, learn how to
keep a person up off you, and learn how to
take somebody blows sing how.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You doing good? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But so when we talk about mental the mentality, we're
going to get dive deep into that. I want you
to express to our audience what it is that you
do and what it is that you've been through to
get you to the place where you are. One of
the masters are helping others uncurr these things that we
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just listen it to.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So in a nutshell, I am an emotional intelligence expert.
In last five to seven years, the explosion in digital
world has trained most of us to not focus more
than twelve seconds. Okay, what is the least amount of
time that you can focus? Twelve seconds? When in twelve
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seconds you can take two breaths, Right, and that's all
you need to start your leadership journey, to start your
we get so hung up in what we desire to
get in the future. We get so emotionally carrying the
(05:43):
bag of every experience we have in the past that
we forget the fundamental human present experience that matters.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So I help cultivate five minute presence power or superpower
for leaders and teams and through the frameworks that I
have developed for both personal as well as organizations, to
get them to two simple things. One understand and realize
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what is your purpose? What is the best you have
to give to others? There's always something. You just have
to think a bit, work a bit, and you get
out of there. There's a first ever assessment out there
that we have started teaching people on finding purpose. It's
(06:43):
a twenty minute assessment and one session nineteen minutes, we
can sit down and write your flag strategy. So I
just launched my first book, Ascendancy awakeant One thing I've
learned is use of work that sticks, and I had
to be very precise of why I chose certain words.
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So the book I released is Ascendency Awaken a surprising part.
It is a surprising path because you already have it.
You just have to take that two breadth and come
in the presence, check in with you, and come in
the presence your point of mindset. You can have all
(07:27):
the body, you can have all the ribs, right, but
if you don't check in with yourself every moment you do,
you're gonna get numbed out.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Something that was a famous fight and because we talked
about mindset, Muhammad Ali was fighting and I don't go,
I'm going on.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
This whole pack.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's I'm pretty sure they turn together. I trust my energy.
Mohammada only was fighting George Forman, m brush Froman was
knocking people out. Boom boom, Muhammad I league put up
his dag like this, and Jeorge Frueman was here, But
(08:15):
how long did you do this? How long did you just?
Right before you know, George Trumman is tired and.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Then he gets one mom.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Archeologically he said, I'm hitting him with everything and he
won't go down him. Muhammed a lead like I got
him I water. So it's a thing of Captain bows.
Right when we talked about mindset mentality, because one one
guy is saying, I'm deserting all of my energy to
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the other, I'm saying I knew that if I could
get him past a certain moment.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I teach you mine from this singioga.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm going to say, go where your paint, where the
pain threshold is at, and then we're going to take
micro movements. See if you can get past the threshold.
But if you can't, it's okay. It may take three weeks,
take four weeks, it may take five weeks, but we're
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going to keep moving towards the pain threshold, moving towards
the traumatic experience in your brain and when you when
your body tenses up. Now we're going to start identifying
what happens when you're done. What happens in what happens.
And so when we talk about micro movements, how much
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can we get out of those micro reps? Because I
know I'm saying micro movements, and now we want to
do how much can we get out of the micro
breast so we can start identifying where the trauma lit
lace in our body.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We all all of our bodies after trauma.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Absolutely, and it is such a a simple process. Right,
human body is the best engineering marvel ever. Bit right
to your point, each cell in our body has its
own brain. Right, So when you talk about trauma, when
you talk about that pain, that pain that exists in
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your different parts of your body is connected to emotion
and a thought in your brain. So every time you
take that break and sets check in for two seconds,
the goal is for you to become the observer and
not a participant. Right. And when you bring that concept,
(10:48):
when you bring that concept to life with people as
a leader, when you bring that concept, if you get
in a meeting and the statistics that we have done
research with ten thousand plus hours, and it's so disturbing,
seventy five percent of leaders in corporate life, no matter
what kind of industry, no matter which country, because my
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program is all over the map, no matter at what level.
Seventy five percent of leaders are not present in the
first five to ten percent of the meeting. Think about that, right,
It is not only loss of productivity, it is disrespecting
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to the people who have come prepared to present yourselfing. Right,
and we all know the first few minutes interaction creates
the quorum for rest of the meeting or rest of
the show. You have to gather and connect with people.
(11:57):
And how will you do it if you have not
children with yourself?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We all live our life in autopilots. All the No,
I mean the last fluff you had? Do you remember
the paste, the flavor, the temperature. No, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
No. I was watching a movie and the guy said
it was called The Menu. It's a bit of a
dark movie. But in the beginning he says, I don't
want you to eat the food. Yeah, I want you
to take the time absorb mhm, the flavors, the mixtures.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So this is what you this is what you do.
How did you come about to get to this place? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, that's that's that's a good one, and I think
the formation of the proper program started in uh late
twenty twenty early twenty one. So I was chief technology
office in a company and we had a full blown
ransomware attack and with the right mindset, with the right
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team and the right partners, we were able to come
out of that in thirty forty arts without being that
sun right. So that was a big thing, and it
just speak of COVID, and then we had to orchestrate
the hundreds of people who are working from home right
how to change their devices so that it's all clean now.
And you know, it was a lot of work. But
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what happened after that I got invited in a podcasts
and interviews, and after the fifth or six interview, I
had to sit down and think through we're not traveling
at that time, so we give me enough time to
reflect the type of quotions and being asked. It is
very common sense for me, White people are asking this
kind of quotions, right. And then I started looking at
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at a very early age, fourteen years old. I was
very aggressive kid growing up, and my parents gave me
introduced me to Indian percussion music classical and I had
already done postmasters of classical Indian percussion by the age
of thirteen fourteen. But my aggressiveness was not going away.
So they've had me go to tippet with tu Alama
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and really two and a half months in summer I
spend my time learning my full cactus. But that became
a second habit for me. I never thought that, you know,
it would be so impactful fast forward, I have. When
I started looking back in twenty twenty one, that was
not the only incidance. I saw how there were multiple
(14:37):
incidences where I had gone through something that was very
different just because of the techniques that I could use.
And the other thing I observed, interestingly, every time I
had a success in building a powerful team, I had
taught every one of them Michael practices and that's where
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I brought everything together as a framework.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But but you know, you know what's funny, It's like,
I don't want to out your age. How long have
you been practicing?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Thirty years?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Sorry, thirty years, So I've been I've been most of
the same thirty years. So I started in a different
but it's still still over said. We think that because
we see through our lens, we think that everybody knows
this this is going to go off the beaten rails.
(15:41):
How do you feel when you see these gurus taking
these simple practices and making them more complex, doing thirty
day trials, seminars and so I don't want to project
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my filming thoughts, but how do you feel they now
project my feelings afterwards?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I want to get your film.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So I'll put it this way. I always teach everyone
to learn to appreciate limitation, suffer them. I don't want
to say anything that hurts anybody's shore, right, That's that's
how they're earning their bread. That's how they're live, earning
their lively, right. So I'm not any who guess that.
But the fact about mindful practice is it starts with
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simple breathing. It's not about dancing and rotating and getting
into postures on your head right. I would rather I
would rather have you go and do gymnasium exercise. I
would rather have you go do a very dancing right
things that because it still can pick motion right, things
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that you can get the emotions out. And I see
the I don't want to use the word frustration, but
it's very close to that kind of definition of frustration.
When I get when people come to me and I
start talking to like, Oh, I have been doing in
yoga for three years and this is okay. If you
have been doing yoga for three years, can you do
me a quick favor? Can you just do a simple
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thirty six second box breathing? What is that? Can you
just take a breath counter four, hold for a counter four,
release for a counter fold, and hold for count. Just
do it for imputations. Have you ever done that? Oh?
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I have never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Everyone, So this is important and I want to slow
down right here because this is what you want to
get the meat out of the bond. I learn the
importance of brand h early on in mynd in my journey,
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But when I learned the importance of breadth because I
had really good teachers. The first breath that you've learned
for you can any complications. It's what they call box breathing.
And why they sing do they call it box?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
They call it box because two reasons. One, that's not
an if. If you go back to the history of
yoga and meditations, it's called something else, right, But it's
called box breathing because it is like a box for
each side on four and you're doing it four counts,
so it's like and you have new four deputations, right,
that's one full cycle. That's why it's called box breathing.
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I would say, I have done this from the stage.
I've done this in seminars, I've done this in workshops
in one of montha chain. If you become honest with
yourself and the first box breathing full sighted eighty five
percent of the time, you will realize how loud, how
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loud your brains. Right, if I ask someone just to
close your eyes and inhale and exhale and just feed
your breath nothing else, you will see how much data
is being processed in our brain every microsecond, and we
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are not using it. We are not using the power
of the senses that we have been given.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's funny that you said that.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So today I was doing the class, right, and I
am my singers, and I'm teaching them down. So I'm like,
put all of your weight on a heel of your
left foot, so we breathe in lift the right foot
of the ground.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
They to lift the right foot of the ground without
the chair.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They seem so we it's supposed to be cheer yoga,
but I'm not gonna be there doing cheer yoga, like,
let's do something, let's get something going on, right, And
when I say close your eyes, the thing that they
could do with their eyes open, they couldn't do with
their eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And the same movement, it's the same breath.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Mhm, it's the same.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What happens when we.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Close our eyes even taking up doots breath, We're gonna
use that.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's going to be our foundation. Taking that box breath.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
When a person will now they start to close their eyes,
what happens to the mind.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
The mind starts to do what Okay, so the mind
starts to excrete No, it's not because here, here, here
is a foundational thing on that, right, and it's a
it's a it's a very very very basic, but very
important thing. People forget. Even though we are living on autopilot, right,
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one of our senses is doing the real guard for
our life. And for people who have visioned, the eye
is doing that fully right. So the first alert that
you get something wrong in your autopilot, it's through your vision,
through your eyes, right, So when you close your eyes,
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you just let go of your guards, and the brain
is saying that, hey, where is my guard rain. I
cannot run an autopilot. So the moment your brain is
now breaking out of autopilot, it's trying to go into
everything that has ever calculated, ever thought, ever recorded to
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figure out how to react to this right Because your
eyes are closed, you're not speaking, You're a way right
now at that point when you focus just on the
air coming in and out of a nostrils and forcing
your brain to count one two three four one two
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three four, that is the training. That is the first
mindful training that you gave your brain to come out
of autopilot. Think how effective your hour will be if
every startup power you checked in with yourself. Just by
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that right you you turned off the autopilot of your brain.
Focus and yeah, by focusing, by closing your eyes and
focusing on the brain. The moment you close the autopilot
of the brain, what does that mean? You have all
the information being registered from all your five senses to
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use in the moment. And if I do this exercise,
sometimes I'll meet people that cafeteria or having coffee. There's
a very common exercise. I recommend you to try it.
So it's fun. So you go to a shop, you
sit down you get your coffee right, two or three people,
and then I will ask them to do this exact
thing for thirty six seconds, and I'll ask them, don't
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open your eyes up to that right now, you from
your nose nostrils moves over to your ears and you
can very quick in that thirty six seconds, you can
listen to multiple sounds that you were not really string before.
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So it's is very powerful. It's just that how do
you go step by step, one step at a time,
micropractices and make it a life that you're supposed to
death in the present. And that's another frustration.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I have another question, but I would be a frustration.
I want to hear these frustrations.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So the other first session I have is whether I
said down with people are a very common statement. You
will get Hey, that is not my past experience, that
is not I have planned for future. I always say, okay,
forget past the future. What are you experiencing right now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, so so oh, I'm glad that you brought that
up because that let me get my first question out,
because now you're ppping into some stuff that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
We're about to get.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
All Right, anybody who who's listening, if you don't want
to get nervy, then turn it off.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But we're about to get deep and nerdy. Can we
get deep a little bit saying I got you?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So we're conditioned in America, we're planned to get into
the one mentality?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The world?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Won is a low viperational word.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Although we're talking about micro movements, you're you're helping the
person to get out of a want mentality, which is always.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Focused on past.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Or future yep, into an M mentality, which is focused
even for.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Two seconds in the present.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
In the present.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's so difficult for us to get focused on the
N mentality from a one mentality because everything we consume
is either honoring something that happened or excited about the expectation.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Expectations.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, if I'm focused on something that happened, the Holocaust happen.
So the what mentality will always person eights mhm. Wouldn't
you look at.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
The culture, when you look at the things that's gone around.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
In the culture, what how you chip away? Because we
talked about micro movements, where we still talk about movement
mm hm, Yes, just put the move into accelerate a movement.
How do you chip away what is something the twos
and techniques that you had to learn to articulate to
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people that's always looking at that lives.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
In wan, Right, I want to, I want to? I
wanted to? Did this? I want to? I want I
want to?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So I think that that's it's a it's a true part,
very big question better. Right. So the first part of
that is talking about the way we are conditioning. And
it's unfortunate that in today's day and age, with all
information and able to us, the only time because is
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when something bad happens. Right, and when I say bad
not in sense of relativity that right, an accident happens,
everybody stops. Everybody wants to see that. But if there
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is a cheerity going on, only people involved in that
event will be watching that, not people were just passing by.
Why you don't want to enjoy, You don't want to
participate in the fun things that's happening in front of you,
and you just want to focus on things that brings
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suffering to something. Right, So when you talk about conditioning,
it's very deep conditioning that we have to start undoing
using those micro practices. Right. So that's one part of it.
When you talk about tools, they are two very specific
framework that I always have people use, and I believe
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in transformation in action. Right, So I'll give this tool
out to your audience that's listening today. You can use
one of two methods. The first method is going through
a proper framework. Right. So, there is a leadership compass
that I have put together. It has got four cardinals.
The first cardinal is presence power, the second cardinal direction
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is emotional agility, the third one is cognitive clarity, and
the fourth one is action.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So if you just stay with the concept of micro
movement and micro exercise, micro breathing and for that two seconds,
if you can be present in the moment, right, you
will have if ability to modulate your emotions the moment
you are able to modulate your emotions, you are able
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to have clarity in your thought and whatever action you
take will be transformational. So that's one. Then people tell me,
this is a very common question by the way, that Okay,
what is that I can do on a daily basis.
That's not like I have to you know, take out
the yoga mat every hour, or I have to go
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to a retreat, or I have to write a book
and a novel. I said, no, no, you don't have
to do anything. Just start doing this. Start doing six
times in a day. Put a reminder on your cloth.
Let it be at least one hour gap between each exercise,
no matter what you're doing. When the cloth rings, just
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talk what a way you're doing, and ask yourself two
simple questions. What is the outcome of this activity that
I'm participating in and what else I could be doing
if I was not doing this? Just this one exercise.
You'll be amazed at how many leaders and team members
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have come and told me that you took care of
my digital addiction, because it ties. The next time you
pick up something to scroll, you should be first question
should be what am I getting out of it? You're
searching for something, you're trying to find something, you're doing
some research. Those things are pertinent. But if you're just
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gazing for twelve seconds. Every twelve seconds, you're just moving
your finger without being actively present. See even if you
are an auto pilot, right, So what else I could
be doing when I'm not doing that? So that's first thing.
Whatever that thought is. Take a piece of paper and
I say, foresting an index card and right down in
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that moment, I am grateful for three words. So by
doing this exercise, what you get think about the cardinal
directions I talked about the moment you do self check
in right, you have control on your emotions quality, and
(31:25):
you did not waste time. You put your time to
do something creative, something more affirmative, something better. I was
getting this workshop and I talk about the progress framework.
The progress is purpose, reflection, organizing, great resilience, empowerment, support
and self discipline. And the reason I had to put
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that framework together is because in today's day and age
with everybody has everything available on their fingertips. But the
problem is they are looking word from their eyes what
you mentioned earlier, right, they are looking from their viewpoint,
so they can create a different definition together. And if
I'm working with a team, then I have to bring
the entire team to that level. So I created that framework. Now,
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purpose is what is the best you have to give
to others? That is your purpose in life. Right. The
reflection is when you start doing that. Micro Journaling is
what I call that small journaling. I check in every
hour of journaling and then comes organizing. Organizing is what
are the small things that you can do in your
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life on a daily basis to make a difference. So
I'm doing this workshop with traveling nurses. Okay, this is
about a year back, right around I would say spring
last year, and I go through this whole framework, and
one of the traveling nurses says, hey, saying I'm a
coast tenness. I said, sure, so I am the sole
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bread earner in my family. To get to my next
level where I can truly get to my purpose, I
have to do some certification. But I have to go
and read and learn some things. I'm running always with
my traveling job, and I don't have time to participate.
(33:11):
I'm sure you guess my question. So my question is
how do you travel? Oh? I drive or I take
a train out of us? What it is? I said, Okay,
what do you do in those two hours? Nothing? Right?
Can those two hours in fact be repurposed? Right? Listening
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something again and again, and if you listen to a
chapter three times, you'll remember the exact.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Chapter for God's sake, right, Yeah, yeah, you know it's
talking that. You said that, and I really appreciate you
coming on and sharing. You've got someone understand if you
apply it's a little bit of this stuff that we
just talked about. You just got to master the class
for free on on on how how to bury yourself.
(34:01):
And we're going to talk about the book and all
of those other things too. But people want to change overnight.
So the phenomenon of what you're talking about micro you're
not saying it won't transform you. It just won't happen overnight.
(34:26):
So we repurpose our time. I did a I'm I'm
working on a book, and I did a class called
the Mindful Marketer on a listenable app. And one of
the things that we discussed it doesn't work for people
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who like if you're a construction worker, if you're a musician,
because your time frame is really stuck in a certain form.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You'd have to think outside of that so you can
be My first business was construction.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
If you asked me to hand you certain tools, I
don't know it. My business was construction. I didn't have
to know how to lay breaks. It's a difference in mindset.
(35:26):
If you gave me a job right now to this day,
all I would have to do is go cruise around
home deepot and look at the number prices for about
twenty and thirty minutes, and I can give you an estimate.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I don't need three days. I know what it takes to.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Do a job because when the number prices go up,
that's when else go up, the lumber prices.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So you just acted, Okay, this is what we have.
I'm calling you. I can tell you right.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Now, this is what is. This is the estimated price.
Because we're talking about estimation.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
But you know how many micro movements that I had
to get to that place? Where have muscles were now there?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
So talk about how a micro movement take you from
the journey.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Bring the journey.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
If I bring you into my organization, somebody listen and
bring you into the orgization. How many days of journeying
do you spend with them, hours, moments, minutes, and what
what do they because I know you take inventory, what
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are sences when you finished?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
So a couple of things on that. That's again a
fully lot of question for me because they have even
much to it, right, So I'll start I'm trying to
go through the way you started. People trying to change overnight. Yes,
I can almost guarantee, I can almost bet and challenge
and am open for any individual to take this challenge
(37:09):
with me. If you commit to doing just two things.
I just said that every hour you do a check
in and you write one sentence at that point, and
you do that for three straight days, then I want
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to sit on with you and go through the inventory.
In that inventory that you documented yourself. You did it,
nobody else. You are doing it when you have checked in.
You're doing it in your consciousness, right, not an auto
pilot that tells the path that you should be on. Right. So,
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when I get involved with individuals or means, the very
first step is some kind of baseline. Because I believe
in stats. I believe in data. Anything that cannot be
measured cannot be improved. It's as simple as that, right.
So I had to create workbooks and tests to start
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creating baseline of stress. One interesting fact, there is any
company where the senior leadership has got a higher stress
level individually, that company is not performing financially. No matter
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who is humming up and how good everybody is. If
the senior leadership team has a higher stress on that
baseline question that we do financially, they're losing. Think about
it for a second, right second, If the people leader
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in the organization. People leader not necessarily a position, a
person that has responsibility of managing people in the organization.
If they don't have clarity in their own purpose. Mm hmm, right,
they are the most what we term as polluting leaders.
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They are all over the place, They cannot give give
a clear direction. They are only good for micromanaging.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Ye want to make sure we call Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, why Yeah, That's that's why leadership, right, I mean,
if you just look at those fundamentals, right, that's why
every engagement that we have we start with those two
simple tools. One is a purpose assessment for Indian inividuals
and a stress assessment. Right, it's black and white at
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that one.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, okay, this is why we are walking victory have
conversations to help you evolutionize. It's black and white stress
or what's the other one? It's a stress and the
other one I can purpose if you don't know. First
(40:28):
of all, So when I was doing my child or certification,
we went through this whole session on I am itself.
I started preaching when I was twenty four, and one
of the heavy theological lessons I is the Iamic nature
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of Christ. So we're talking Christ, I am and in
the Book of John and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
This is not religious. I have a religious podcast. Want
treat you some podcasts.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
But that lesson when we dealing with the I AM
nature of Christ, just to show you how micro movements.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Some ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Later, when I'm doing i AMS and a chroper certification
from our meditation all crystallized, I was like, oh, because
when we were doing.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Theology, we were looking outward.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Christ the curtain or the fictian person with a house.
I'm past that, and we don't believe that. You don't
believe in the last that doesn't matter. But historically we
can take that book, look at that and now when
fifteen maybe twenty years later it was fifteen years I'm
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doing that I Am and all the sin.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah. So I do a lot of preaching myself. The
special lessons have bought a hole following on that one.
But I don't remember the exact phrase. But in Bible,
I think it's in in in one of the John's
things that it says, as you think.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
So should happen.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, right, I mean that is so deep. If you
are an autopilot, you have lost your capability to think.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
If you have lost the capability to think. How can
you imagine outcomes?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
If the system is sorry, the system is.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Create it suck out the imagination. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, And even if you go back, and I tell people,
if you get ever in your life, to become a
true leader, one book you have to read is the
twenty one Laws of Leadership. And in that just read
the first law law of live right. And I said,
that is so basical humanity. Right as you think, so
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shall happen.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
As such as a man think you solf shall be.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
M And then if you're spending twenty hours a day
telling yourself you're not worth it, you're not going to
get it. Everything is bad. What is going to happen?
You just writing your own future?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, as a self conscious mind is going to run
on all of power and get you yourself.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
God.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
So one point thing I'll tell you, said, I said,
so people go through my workshop and they start meditating,
and then they'll come back here. Don't all this meditation
but nothing is happening. I said, no, it is not
important for the hours you sat down. It matters after that,
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every breath that you're taking, what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You know what's funny saying.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
And then because you're a practitioner and you can tell
my audience will happened to me.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So I teach you breath work. M h.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I start by four by four, when he moves to
six by six, finally get people that eight y.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Because the body. So my first introduction.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Of birth work was to pakua mm hmm, hold the
breath so that the pause can open up. And when
you when you start to hold your break for a
certain amount of time, your heartbreak increases. Everything starts to
happen you. You get nervous, and then there's a sense
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of content wants you fast that some people can't push fast,
crazy in their nervousness.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Right, And that's why I start always with a small
fourth breath. So you brought something important. And like I'm
always about giving, right, I'm always giving out truths to
people fear cox. I mean, they don't have to come
to my seven ars and webinars. So I'll give another one. Right.
So people talk about manifestation, right, there's a did that work?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
What you said?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
They're talking it wrong, And so I don't use the
word manifestation, but I tell them, if you really want
an answer of something that you are immensely involved in
and worried about. You have to do only one thing,
any activity that you're doing, hopefully you're not driving at
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that time, but walking, sitting, lying down, whatever, Take normal breath,
right and for ten fifteen seconds, and take a deep
breath and hold as long as you can, and then
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slowly release it and again hold your breath. What is happening?
I talked about the census earlier. Right, The brain is
always waiting for oxygen. The moment you cut that oxygen unexpectedly, right,
unexpectedly is you're not doing any exercise. You're not doing
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anything that the brain is saying, Okay, I'm expecting this.
You're normally breathing, and suddenly you start it bring goes
into fight and flight more for itself and says, I
will give you whatever you want. So all it is
doing is the thought that you have for which you're
wanting answers. It's looking at its entire data it has
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collected in your lifetime and tells you an answer. I
know it's very deep.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
No, No, that's but that's good because that's exactly what
I'm saying when you start holding your bread. But most
people can't push past their fight.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, six to eight.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
They can't push past it because they start to get nervous.
Nothing's going to happen, is only going to batter you, right,
So we talk with the micro the micro restore the box,
Go get the boat.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
What's the name of the books? Thing?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Sorry, all of the information is in our description description.
Hit the link in the description, so I don't know
if you notice like and our description has the thing.
And when I introduce the guests, there's.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
A line under it. That line will.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Take you to the website. The website will take you
to the book book. We'll take you to all the
same social media, to social media. Who will bring you
into sings, Echo fear. What happens is whoever you listen to.
We just talked about that. Whenever you read gets into
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the census, then it starts the center rehearsing. I can
tell you about your algorithms, what you're into, but that's
a whole nother story. We have conversations that evolve lives
sing thank you for coming on. He's now a part
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Speaker 2 (49:00):
That ship trying to say to.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Me and my target for twenty twenty five, My personal
goal for twenty twenty five is to get one minute
mindful micropractice to two hundred and fifteen thousand people. So
every person that you can share with, every person adds
to that count of to fifty thousand. So I'll sincerely
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appreciate you guys passing it on to hers. Everyone needs
a minute of mindful practice. A minute from mindful practice.
All right, So I'm gonna put you on the spots
saying I want you to come back and will work through.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
This will be a working right, will do a session
because your sessions are micro. It's not oh yeah yeah,
if you're listening, we're gonna do that. We're gonna work
it out. I'm talking about a lot right now. Still,
(50:00):
will work through so that people can.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Learn.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
You can watch my full experience. I'll give you how
I'm feeling it and I'm going to be totally honest.
When I come in and when I come out, the structures,
so you'll have real working understanding because he has the stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That he can share with you. But you need to
hear it from.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
People like, yeah, people experiencing it.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Absolutely, Absolutely, I'm experiencing I want I want you to
hear because Sing gives. Sing is a man of accountability
and as you know, he's a man of knowledge. And
they don't want making excuses. You don't need want man
to change your life. Don't want breathe it through your
mouth because when you breathe through your mouth, you bring
(50:45):
disease into your body that don't have hairs for a reason.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
As we get older, is get longer because we need
more filter. Enjoy the rest.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Thank you, Thank you,
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