December 27, 2024 • 43 mins
Feeling burnt out and stuck in a rut? This episode of Walk in Victory is for you! Host NaRon Tillman chats with Heather Steward, a yoga instructor and coach who used yoga and mindfulness to completely transform her life. Heather shares her inspiring journey, from a high-pressure corporate career to becoming a wellness entrepreneur. You'll learn about the power of consistency in yoga practice, overcoming limiting beliefs, and using mindfulness to achieve your goals.
Key Takeaways:
Heather Steward is a yoga instructor and coach who helps individuals achieve balance and success through yoga and mindfulness practices. Visit her website to learn more: https://heatherstewart.coach/
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Key Takeaways:
- The impact of yoga and mindfulness on personal and professional growth.
- The importance of consistency in yoga practice.
- Overcoming limiting beliefs and embracing curiosity.
- The power of manifestation with action.
- Holistic wellness for personal transformation.
Heather Steward is a yoga instructor and coach who helps individuals achieve balance and success through yoga and mindfulness practices. Visit her website to learn more: https://heatherstewart.coach/
Timestamps:
- 00:00 A Stroke of Insight: My Wake-Up Call
- 00:16 Welcome to Walk in Victory Podcast
- 00:38 NaRon Tillman's Journey: From Sports to Running
- 02:33 Joining a Run Club: The Challenge Begins
- 04:05 Discovering Yoga: A New Path
- 05:08 Energy Work and Meditation: A Deeper Dive
- 08:21 Embracing Change: From CPA to Life Coach
- 09:37 Overcoming Adversity: Lessons from a Stroke
- 14:36 Finding Humor in Hardship: A Broken Wrist in Jordan
- 16:22 The Courage to Start Over: Embracing New Beginnings
- 18:00 Embrace Curiosity and Trust Your Instincts
- 18:36 From CPA to Yoga Coach: Leveraging Business Skills
- 21:21 The Journey to Yoga and Personal Transformation
- 23:46 Experiences in India: Yoga Training and Challenges
- 26:12 The Power of Consistency in Yoga Practice
- 29:54 Manifestation and Achieving Goals
- 31:42 Overcoming Challenges and Personal Growth
- 40:22 Recommended Reads and Final Thoughts
- 41:37 Conclusion: Walk in Victory
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So on. Instead of being upset about having a stroke,
I said, okay, universe wildly here, like, what are you
trying to tell me? You know? So I waited for
the lessons to come and then I said, Okay, I
got it, I got it. I'm going. I'm on my
road now. Okay, thanks for the wake up call. Here
I go. Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is a public service announcement. This is the Walk
in Victory podcast. Here we have conversations that provides insight
on how you can craft and design your future from
the inside out. If that's not you, then tune into
another bleeping podcast. Everyone else enjoy the show. And here's
our host.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good afternoon, today, good evening. I don't know what time
you're listening and or where you listening from. It's shit boy,
you host Tom, and you are with me for another
episode of Walk in Victory. Speaking of victory walks, I
did a five hour run. This is aptter. I was running.
(01:01):
Played every sport, so you know, you grew up and
grew up into projects. We played football in the concrete,
we ran, I ran track. I was on the baseball team.
I was on the football team. It's on the basketball team.
You know. He did these things. We ran all the time.
We created games out around my minds. The tari it
(01:25):
was leco and want us to sitting around in the
house doing nothing. And you got to think about the
community going up. Was you go to school, do your home?
Me I had to do my horn first. A lot
of my mom was trick about that, and you go outside.
But when we go outside. I lived on the thirteenth floor.
(01:46):
You're knock on doors, hey man. So we were all
loomed together. We grew up. That's a community. That was
what we were. And then for me, my sister is
a year older than me, so I was in the
middle because my sister was a older than me, but
I hung out around a lot of her friends. Then
(02:09):
I had a group that was a year younger than me,
and so I had friends on both sides older because
I was just like that that guy that was right
there in the middle. I mean, we have I have
a bunch of friends that's turning fifty next year with
me too. But I'm just talking about in my building.
(02:30):
And so I was like, all right, I want to
get back into shape again. And I went running and
I joined the run club and boom went out there
did the intermediate to beginners, and I'm like, ah, this
is not challenging, like I want to rub any. Yeah,
(02:53):
So I took the advanced class. And in this advanced
class it was on Union Third. Practice started from Union's
Turning Pracic and we ran a feel to my old college,
which is Queensboro College. And it was Upper Hill down there.
I didn't even know that the trail was there. Ran
to the forest Harding Highway, go back around, go back
(03:17):
through the trail, ups and down peaks and valleys. So
it was a five mile run five miles ship. It
took thirty minutes to forty minutes. Let's just say when
I got back, because that you know, you leave your
car kids there to start owner, they looking like this
(03:37):
somebody abdupt them because I didn't have no phone. I didn't.
And the thing about running is I ran out, So
me running out it didn't take me out as long
out running put me walking back to bath. On top
of it, my back was stiff and I tookn't move
(04:01):
and it looked like I had a cor And I
remember going to yoga for the first time. I was
riding by the Cupcak Yoga, the Patwalk Fardy class Master Eli.
Then it was in Balustream, New York, and on the
(04:23):
sign he says he teached yoga. Ally went in. He said,
what's wrong with you? Did you have a car act
to me or something? Now he runs five miles a day.
I said, no, I was running in my back went
(04:48):
when that was my first introduction to yoga. Fast forward.
Then I'm the president of our yogis oh been teaching
yoga for haang roughly since Hurricane Sandy, a little bit
after Hurricane Sandy. So it's been it's been a while meditation,
(05:09):
and I work with some of the leaders in the industry.
But I just thought that funny story of how he
get on the path, and and it's not through an
energy work. We date yoga together. But I did energy
waves one, energy rays two. So it's rule about energy
(05:31):
and energy work, energy protection, energy massages which some will
call reiki, but in the plack wid it's just energy waves,
energy waves one, energy waves two. So I did what
energy ways two is the more advanced class where? And
then I'll bring in our guess where we where? Most
(05:54):
people say, oh, the chakra right, we got the shop,
but they point from the crown to the bottle or
in energy ways, it expands through all of the open points,
all of the folding joints, so the aligning from the
(06:18):
top of the crown down. We look at both whole alignment,
which includes about twenty four twenty four to twenty four
entry points and in the body and sometimes my classical
yoga truck. Look know what you're talking. No, you don't
(06:39):
understand that that line from here to hear it spans
out from from all over and and the energy or
the chi or the chakras are expansive, They're not just
with you. But anyway, that's a whole another debate for
(06:59):
yoga nerds, however.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Have a lot so hey, fellow yoga nerds. Yeah, there's
the hundreds of chakras. I mean, we talked about seven,
I think because that's all we can get our brain around.
It's like, listen, I can only deal with seven right now.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, and then seven is like the perfect number even
I think it's like twenty four, so it's like seven
times seven. So it's but it's just so unique how
the body is formulated, and the more that we understand
the body, the more we can help people get over
their limited beliefs or they get through hard times.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And there's even a zero one, right, there's a zero one,
and there's an eight one down below and in the ground. Right,
It's like they don't even have to be in the body.
They're just like sorry, just like.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The body with most people like duties breathing techniques. And
I work now a lot with seniors, so I don't
want to do this with my seniors where we hold
our breath and just feel the body bring because the
porson our body is actually breathing on their own. And
the reason why we get pippos or post clothes is
(08:13):
because we don't allow the body to breathe. But again, yeah,
can tell about writings about yourself and what it is
that you do.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Absolutely, I guess I'm a yoga nerd, But originally, yeah,
I was. I was a CPA for fifteen years, so
that was you know, it's kind of a weird flipover right.
I took a right turn at one point and said
this is not my right plath. So now I'm a coach,
call myself a real life coach because whatever whatever we
(08:43):
come up with, whatever it is that you need out
with and asked to fit your real life or you're
not going to do it right. It's like asking someone
to go to and you know, high level ashtanga class
and they're never going to come back again. You're like,
you got to start where you are. So I do coaching,
but I've had this background where I've been teaching yoga
(09:05):
now twenty years. I started with ashtanga and because everybody does,
and meditation, and i was a massage therapist for fourteen years,
so I've got all this like body wellness knowledge. But
in all that I realized that when people would come
for massage, she'd come for like an hour of asking
me questions about their life. I said, so one day
(09:26):
with somebody said to me, you should just talk to
people and help them. I'm like, that's a good idea,
so I moved it out. I had actually small short story.
I had a stroke in twenty twenty one, and that
was kind of like my wake up call. I was
in the emergency room for three days because they didn't
have any beds, COVID all this stuff, and no one
(09:49):
could visit me and I couldn't see properly. So it
was my silent retreat. I got the gift of a
three day silent retreat, and while I was laying there,
I realized, Okay, to retire from massage. It's time to
move beyond just helping people with physical illness. I was
also doing some business coaching because I have that CPA background,
and said, I got to move outside that. So got
(10:12):
the download of you know, my program is holistic helping
people look at their whole lives. And my podcast came
that week that those three days as well. It's called
back to Me. It's like I got to teach people
how to make sure that if something like this happens
to them, they're okay. Like I'm I was okay, I
(10:32):
was like, okay, I'm in the hospital. So on, instead
of being upset about having a stroke, I said, okay, universe,
why am I here? Like what are you trying to
tell me? You know? So I waited for the lessons
to come and then I said, okay, I got it.
I got it, and I'm going. I'm on my road now. Okay,
thanks for the wake up call. Here I go. So
(10:53):
the short sort long story, short, short story, long is,
you know, I help people figure out what they're really
meant to be doing, and it doesn't have to be
something us all. It doesn't have to be INtime. It
could just be something your fart needs to express. I
haven't figured out how to help them get there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's it's it's amazing that that this is what you do.
But it was a tribute for time in your life
that brings you to the place you know, this is
trials produces patience, right, Yeah, And you could have took
that time in that bed. I could take the time
with my back and just lay down. But it was like, no,
(11:37):
it's something, it's stop going right, I have to keep going.
You know. He had a time of introspective and where
most people where some people I don't want to characterize
some people where he said, oh my, why am I
vothing it on?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And this is not from there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
What do you think that your many years of being
a practitioner exchangeing energy now is the time that you
need to apply And you think that that is what
kept you from falling apart in actually discovering what it
was that you are doing now.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's so interesting, Yeah, because I think because I had
been a meditator for so long, I think part of
my part of my thing was oh, Kenny, no problem.
We got this silent retreat. No problem, We're just going
to meditate. And there was a part of my brangling,
oh my god, are you kidding me? You had a stroke?
Do you know what that means? And you know the
cascade of doom and gloom that comes, And that voice
(12:42):
was there because I think it's normal. But a bigger
voice said, are you kidding me? Stop being so foolish.
You're in the hospital. This is the best place to
be if there's something wrong, So take advantage of it
and chill out and just see what happens. And it's
funny because I was so calm and relaxed. It was
Halloween weekend, so the emergency room was crazy. Like the
(13:08):
people in there, Oh my goodness, there was some crazy
stuff going on in the emergency room. But I was
in my little cubicologists wearing a mask watching it all
go down. I was like, wow. It was also a
great place to observe, observe how people deal with that
kind of crisis. Some people you could tell they were scared,
(13:29):
they were in denial. They just wanted to go home.
I don't care, I'm fine, I'm fine, Just let me
go home. Some people were having breakdowns, some people were
under arrest, Like there was a lot of really there
was a lot of really interesting things going on, So
I could have gone down that road. And I think
it's meditation and being okay, like having enough knowledge of
(13:56):
I've like did a scan of myself, like okay, I
think I'm okay, I feel okay, I'm in the right spot.
Because at first I was fighting against the doctors, and
then part of me went, why are you arguing with
the doctors? Just let them take care of you, you
know that pushing away. So once I did that and
just went it's like, okay, that's when when you're just
(14:18):
let what's happening be there, good or bad, whatever you
want to label it, it's just a label. You can
actually let yourself be open to whatever it's supposed to
be there for you. Because nothing, I don't think anything
happens to you. It's all happening for you. Right. So
even like December last year, I was in Jordan and
(14:40):
I fell and broke my wrist. Wow, it's so classic,
Like I tripped over the only rock in the middle
of the desert, and I just it was so comical.
I was just like I went up to the guide
to like, I think I hurt myself, and so it
took free cars and three hospitals and all these x
(15:04):
rays because they just kept she was SHOs shitching up,
shas along and people were like, oh my god, did
it hurt. I was like, I don't actually remember. I
just thought it was hilarious because I was watching all
this happen.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And it probably hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, it probably hurt, But I just thought it was
so interesting, like watching this this comedy show of having
to go from this car to this car to this
car and this hospital and over that hospital and yeah,
it's broken, but we don't fix that here, you have
to go over there. And also the people were so
fascinating because what is the white woman doing in a
(15:42):
hospital in Jordan? Right, So they're all like oh, and
they would come up and pat me and give me
a blessing or something. I don't know what they were saying,
but it was it was so fun, like I hadn
such a good time even though I had a broken wrist. Whatever, painkillers,
you're good.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So you had three careers, ah, and so far in
most yes, yes, And most people like if they're lucky,
they get to do two careers right and be successful
at them. What do you think, as a woman entrepreneur,
what do you think is your secret to not being
(16:22):
afraid to start over and then to build, and then
not being afraid to start over and then to build
a game. Yeah, it's the secret in not being afraid
to start, or is the secret in building?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think the secret is not being afraid to start
because you can give yourself, oh my goodness, a million
reasons not to do something. I was actually talking to
somebody last night who she's at this cusp where she
needs to go all in or go get a job
at dunkin Donuts, and she's having all the feels like
(17:00):
I saw every feel in that conversation yesterday, cry and
laugh and scream, and it's like when you're trying, when
you have to think about it, when you have that
I need to make a decision energy, it's like tense
and feels. It doesn't feel good a lot of the times.
But once you make it, Bill, you're on the road
and you just go. So it only takes that ten
(17:22):
seconds of courage to say yeah, I'm good, I got it.
And trust for me is a lot of trust as well,
So it is it is hard I understand for people
to take that first step, to take that I'm going
to do this. I mean, people can have as many
careers as they want. I'll probably reinvent myself again at
some point down the road. I don't know. I just
keep adding more step, but I follow where my heart
(17:46):
calls me. So or if that's too heavy, just follow
your curiosity. Right, So that's really interesting because I'm also
a kayaking instructure. That's really interesting. I want to try that.
That's really interesting. I want to try that that's really interesting.
And that doesn't mean you have to make a career
of all of them. But go and be curious and
(18:07):
try things out, and if you feel called to go
do that. Be brave enough to give yourself the grace
to do that and trust trust that if you have
the curiosity and the desire to do something, that there's
a reason for that. So there's probably something behind that
and you should follow it. Right. That doesn't mean.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, as a former CPA, right, do you still how
how important was that part of your life even for
what you're doing now, because you know to build the
business you have to you still have to have some
level where a lot of businesses fail. Is they they
(18:54):
are good at doing yoga but they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, that is funny. It's funny to say that because
when I started coaching, I started coaching the yoga teachers
and the massage therapists on business because that's you know,
I was working as a massage therapist and the people
that I worked with found out what I used to
do with so they would come to me with all
(19:18):
these letters from the government. Will you help me? Will
you help me? It's like, yeah, I'll help you. Of
course I'll help you. So but it's interesting. People sometimes
ask me, like, do you regret spending all those years.
I'm like, hell no, because one, I made a lot
of money back then, right, So that has given me
(19:39):
the ability to downsize myself and be okay. Like some
people it's like, oh my god, what if I lose
my house. I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm like I'm good,
I'll be okay. So, and it set up that knowledge
of business like I'm not perfect by any means, like
(20:01):
I'm still learning. I've taken tons of Like I didn't
know marketing. I had to take marketing when I started
being an entrepreneur. But I knew how to manage the
back end, and I was coaching the health and wellness
people like, yes, you got to send an invoice. You
can't just visualize and money pours in. You got to
actually take an action. Manifestation requires action, to ask Abraham.
(20:32):
So it totally set me up to be able to
like see where things are going wrong where you know,
and not be and also not to be afraid of money,
like a lot of people in that wellness space think
money is bad. Oh I shouldn't bill people. Oh it's bad.
I'm like no, I'm sorry, Like, it's not bad. It's
(20:56):
a tool. The more you have, the better you can
do things, things to do the things you want to do.
Just because you're rich doesn't make you an asshole. There's
lots of poor assholes too, right.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, it's the assholes walking in every corner, some driving
one hundred thousand dollar cars. So when when you started
to feel the shift? How how long did it take
you to pivot or was it something? Are you a procrastinator?
(21:33):
Are you? Are you excuse my French bulls to the wolves?
Really I'm gone?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Or are you like it's totally funny? I like I
have this fantasy of being a really good planner. But
what will happen is I'll get an idea. And I
actually started doing yoga because one of the vice presidents
where I worked said, hey, do you want to do
some yoga? And I was super stressed out. I was like,
I hear a script, rest stress, I'll go do it.
(22:01):
But I went like one hundred percent and I'm like,
I'm doing it every day, which was so bad, you know,
bad bad, So it was like it was starting to percolate, right,
it was starting to percolate. And when I but when
I decided to do it, like I didn't plan it.
I just waited until it felt like the water was
hot enough and for the coffee and I was like, okay,
(22:24):
I'm done off and I went and I didn't have plans.
When I left my corporate job. I actually went traveling.
I went traveling for three months to India because I said,
I think I'll go to India. So if I went,
and when I came back, because I had given I
was totally blessed like that I could go and take
(22:45):
off for three months and not worry about anything. When
I came back, I said, Okay, I'm going to go
to massar school, became a personal trainer, and I'm going
to open my own yoga studio. Bill done, did I
have that? I'll plan dow in advance new But I
(23:05):
had an idea of the direction I wanted to go,
and then I let kind of the universe deliver. Because
when I decided to go back for massage school, my
boyfriend's father called and said, hey, I've got a place
for you guys to live. And I looked at the
address and it was right down the street from where
my massage school was, and it had a studio that
(23:28):
I could teach yoga. And I was like, are you
kidding me? Of course, we're gonna take it like it
was gorgeous. It was crazy. It's like when I came back,
it was just like here you go, Here you go,
here you go, because I had stuck my stick in
the sand and said this is the direction I'm going.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So yeah, so I'm about to actually nerdy. So who
did you practice when you was in in India?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I practiced with this guy, Shuva Jas. I practiced with
this really old school. I didn't practice one of the
end of the named dudes. I practiced with all these
local old school guys who were the classes were like
three hours long. You're like, I think I'm gonna die,
(24:14):
and they're like, that's your camera. No, no really, I'm
just this.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's and then he woke behind you and they need
mash it down, like go like no, you can love.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, right, well even eve and here. I took a
class with David Life once and I was in his
shoulder stand and I didn't know it at the time,
but I attreniated my discs. I disc in my back
because I countant I sit all the time, and I
was in the shoulder stand, going oh, I'm in pain.
He comes and he pulls my feet and he kicks
(24:56):
my elbows. I'm like, touch me, it's your kama. It's
just no, this is berniated daisty exactly. I think I'm
gonna callide down now.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So like we're laughing at these experiences. However, because you
know been in those rooms and you're listening to us,
you understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, exactly, I don't pull me down.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're like, oh, you know, my stomach hurt?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh n, what's funny? Was I like? I went after
his David Life's class I went to one of the
Cripollu classes and no Seawankorn and she was like, I
don't want to bash Shawn Corn. I think she was
having a bad day, but she was doing chalker opening
and making us feel bad. So I was weeping at
(25:51):
the end of class. And I went to a Krypoli class.
I like, I've got this disc in my back and
I feel like my chalkers had been raped. This guy
comes up to me, he goes, it's okay. I'm just like,
let's just do a little restorative yoga. I'm like, okay, yeah,
let's do that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know, so that's that's great. These are the two
pushbacks to two of the things that I hear when
I when I talk about some of my friendy lyft
waights and not lift weights resistance stuff, and so one
of the things I just need a real exercise, like
oh you think that, well, you can know who happened.
(26:35):
Let me go this, lift some weights with you and
you come on a mat with me for an hour
and a half and let's see.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Oh so when you hear that like it's not and
we're just talking about from tractic food, I understand that
there's a whole internal work that happens with yoga. Book.
We're a practical standpoint when we start to see the
body shaping, and most most people don't like to take
the time. Yoga works fast, it gets you strong fast,
(27:05):
but it's it works from the inside out. So you
may still have a roundness in the pality or wide
shoulders and you're not seeing the definition immediately. But if
you stay on the mat, what what how does that
transformation begins to evolve?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think that it like I used to when I
had I've closed my yoga studio, but when I had
my yoga studio, people can because they wanted the yoga butt, right,
I want a yoga butt. I want a yoga butt.
And I think that like with anything that you do,
there has to be consistency. Like you can't go once
(27:43):
a week to lift weights and think you're going to
get big pythons, right, you can't go to yoga once
a week and think you're going to reach the stadium's
you know, yoga butt enlightenment. But what I found was
the people who struck the yoga butt can be enlightening, right,
why not? But I think what people find when they
(28:05):
start doing it because I same thing. I had a
personal trainer who was training me for a while. He
was a Toronto argonaut, the football player, and he thought, oh,
yoga's like so lame. I said, Okay, I'm just going
to take you to your one son's salutation because it's
not about how money reps you can do. It's not
about how big a way you can curl. It's your
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staying relaxed and calm in your inner being, breath control
and precision of movement. Right, so being able to understand
that this alignment is a place of strength. This alignment
and this breath is a way to strengthen me. So
I think what yoga does to help people be stronger
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and healthier is a greater understanding of how their body
works and how the things that they do. So people
come up to me, like, I'm actually fifty eight, So
people will come up to me and say, wow, your
posture is so good and like, but it's from consistency
(29:12):
and consistency and consistency that I don't. I'm not aware
of my posture. But when I see other people who
are that, like, I bet you they're an account by
the way they said it, because they're not aware of
what's going on. Everything is in the head, everything's cerebral.
We forget that we've got a body until it starts
to hurt us. So yoga helps you to see you union, right,
(29:37):
uniting the mind and the body, among other things, but
helping you recognize this vehicle that's carrying you around can
be really strong and doesn't have to look like the
cover of Muscle and Fitness, right, So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know, that's that's an amazing point. And earlier we
were starting about the manifestation and how people goes catchphrases, manifestation, gratitude,
all those things like really turns my stomach to count. However,
I understand it. I understand it. I understand for industry,
I get it. But earlier in the year, I was
(30:14):
saying that one of our goals for our podcast is
to get our for a sponsor, and we before they
years over, I didn't know where it was, how it
was going to come. I was like, befoty years old,
we're going to have a sponsor. And when you know,
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The holidays are coming well by the time you listen
the holidays over the New Years here? Why not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Uh, treat yourself to some great lenen How important was
it for you in this last shift to rest up,
to get the mind ready for you're new She would
embrace and feel And then how in telling everyone else
(31:43):
that I'm shifting again, you'll be fine? How was that conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It was? It was interesting. First of all, congratulations, way
to go woo woo. Got a sponsor, yeahho, And maybe
i'll declare that of my January first episode, I'm going
to get a sponsor this year. So my massage clients,
some of them were in tears. And because when you're
(32:14):
like when you're a massage therapist. For some people, you're
also their emotional support right stuff they're going through, And
so that was hard, Like I did, you don't want
you don't want people to feel lost. So I did
a lot of work to make sure that I could
(32:34):
find them someone who would match them to help them
continue on their journey, like someone who i've I wasn't
going to say, oh, here's a list of massage therapist.
I actually went out and I because I know a bunch,
I'm like, I think you should see this person. I
think you should see that person. So I did all
of that work, and I was already coaching on the side,
(32:56):
but that stroke was the it's time to it's just
time to maybe focus on one thing, Heather, maybe just
two things. I don't know. But I had to rest
because brains are so interesting. Like I felt fine physically,
but I could work for about twenty minutes. Then I
(33:20):
had to sleep, Like I could not continue. I had
to lie down and sleep. I couldn't see properly, couldn't
see properly. Still, I was still a bit off. If
I wore my glasses that they made me nauseous. So
I actually had to project my computer onto my TV
and sit six feet away from it to answer emails
and then I'd have to go sleep. So it was
(33:42):
like my body knew what I needed, so it made
sure that I did it and I had no options.
So that took It took me about a year before
because I do lifts weights like two three days a week.
It took me a year before I was really felt
like one day I went, oh, act like I'm back
to my old level. I wasn't, you know, doing nothing
(34:06):
during that year. I was doing the things I could
do that were focused and would move me forward, and
then resting and then resting and then resting. And you know,
nutrition matters. Now we were talking earlier. I still love
potato chips and chocolate, but I'll also have my kale
and whatever smoothie and you know, all the things that
(34:29):
are going to feed my body to make it healthy.
And part of that is also knowing what your body needs.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, how important was that? Seasoning your life for what
you're doing now?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hearing the details, being able to only do work for
twenty and lie down. And so if I put to
you and you're coaching me, and I'm giving you all
these excuses, like, man, you know I know you best,
not your approach, but the.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well sometimes sometimes people get Sometimes people get a little
tough love, Like I won't tough love people right from
the skip, from the get go. First I get to
feel them out to see if they can handle the
tough love. When I point out to them that they're
lacking integrity, and they're lacking because people will go, I've
got tons of integrity. It's like you can keep your
(35:22):
promise to everybody but yourself. That's a like lack of integrity.
So being responsible enough to keep your promises to yourself.
So I I'm not always perfect, Oh my gosh, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not perfect, But helping people recognize their
(35:45):
excuses bullshit. And they're trying to hide from something, can
I swear on here?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Your father?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And they're trying to hide from something, and if they're
not ready to see it, what it is they're hiding from,
like sometimes well let's go over here, like something that
will take them maybe around the back door, the side door,
if they're really having problems bumping up against something, because
you bump up against a lot when you're like I've
(36:13):
had I could tell tons of stories about all the
crap that I've done. But you bump up against a
lot of stuff, You're like, okay, here comes another lesson
down the pipe. But yeah, it's like finding if you
can't go straight into it and you keep hitting that
wall and you can't help them climb over it, you
got to help them find a way around, maybe find
a back door. Right.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's funny that you would say that, Like we bump
into stuff and after a while it becomes almost like
all right, it's cloudy outside, it's about to ring because
you start to your life, our life ebbs and flows
and kunding it. So for me, every time I was
(36:53):
doing something in business, anytime I had a bunch of
resistance or things happen, like oh wow, break news. Because
that's just the way that my weather, my gps, my life.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
But some people think that's the universe telling them not
to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's like, well, no, it staying all right when you
have it is on the other side of the rainbow's
coming exactly. But we don't want people want the rainbow.
They don't want to go through the store.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
They don't want the rain They just want the rainbow.
They want the easy way. When I was a massage sapist.
When lady said to me one day she was she
was concrete, her shoulders, her traps were like, get me
a hammer and chisel. And I was asked, she's telling
me about her job. She worked in some kind of
corporate office. I said, she said, well, can you just
(37:52):
give me a pill for this? I thought, there is
what's wrong. We want the easy way, and it's not
like it's that hard, but you got to be able
to put in a little bit of effort. If you
want muscles, you gotta go put a little bit of effort.
Don't just take ozambic or whatever the latest crap is
(38:12):
that they're telling you to take. I mean, do the thing,
eat their good food, do the work, sit on your mat,
like all of the things that we know we want
to do, but we don't want to do it. I
actually had a dream last night. I was trying to
find my piece of paper where I wrote it down
where I was writing an article which apparently I'm going
to write because it's in my dream called Welcome to
(38:36):
your belief Story. So everything you do in your life
is based on a belief that you installed. At some
point your software got installed. You didn't arrive here hustle, unhappy,
like your rove arrived on the planet. Yehamah, let's play it,
let's eat, let's pooh, let's have fun. Right, So at
some point you installed these weird beliefs that came from
(38:58):
somewhere talk past life, but let's just stick to this
life where you like, you went out in the rain
and you're like, oh, that was crappy, I'm unhappy, I'm wet,
so you don't ever want to go out in the
rain again, or that was too hard and I'm too tired,
and instead of like that was interesting, afterwards, I felt better,
(39:19):
so that work was actually worth it because I feel
better in the end. So these beliefs that are in
your head are running you and you don't even realize it.
So when you've got that kind of decision, like you're
wired to say, yeah, breakthrough, let's go, some people are
wired for is too harge. I'm just going to go
over here and how live the life that I wasn't
(39:40):
meant too. But it's easier. And the people who watch
The Secret, I think they think that it's supposed to
just land in your lap, but it's not. There has
to be action, and there has to be effort on
your part. They'll deliver if you put in the work right.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
See, everybody, I told you we set you out. The
feet of the master is walking. Victory will re build
from inside. Oh, you're not looking to superficially build the machine.
We're like the people that build the six million dollar man.
And if you're young, you don't know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Nice, I'm there, man, I gotcha.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Three. My last question for you, what books have impacted
you or influenced you? Could be fiction. Non fiction doesn't
have to be something that you recently. Right, And we
were sitting down with some young lady. You said, you
know what, read this book?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think get a help who that I really love
and actually have read more than once Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
So did you read it?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh so good. Her audiobook, by the way, she said,
got such a great voice. I've listened to it over
and over. I didn't read Eat Pray Love because I'm
not interested in that, because I already did my own
Eat Pray Love. But Big Magic is awesome. And Jen Cinciro,
you're a badass, you are, yes, yes, And when she
(41:07):
reads her audiobook, she's really good too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You have such a great speaking voice. You come across.
I can't really see you telling someone your food.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Now. I'm the oldest of four kids, so.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You have to have that conversation in a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. My sister and brothers will tell
you I can do it.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
But there you have it. Everyone listen. You don't have
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(42:00):
a hospital stay to bring you down. In fact, you
can use that time and say, hey, I'm having a
mini retreat when I leave from a quick my old
business and start a new one. Why because I walk
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So enjoy the rest of your day. Don't walk with
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of all, walk in victory, peace,
So on. Instead of being upset about having a stroke,
I said, okay, universe wildly here, like, what are you
trying to tell me? You know? So I waited for
the lessons to come and then I said, Okay, I
got it, I got it. I'm going. I'm on my
road now. Okay, thanks for the wake up call. Here
I go. Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is a public service announcement. This is the Walk
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good afternoon, today, good evening. I don't know what time
you're listening and or where you listening from. It's shit boy,
you host Tom, and you are with me for another
episode of Walk in Victory. Speaking of victory walks, I
did a five hour run. This is aptter. I was running.
(01:01):
Played every sport, so you know, you grew up and
grew up into projects. We played football in the concrete,
we ran, I ran track. I was on the baseball team.
I was on the football team. It's on the basketball team.
You know. He did these things. We ran all the time.
We created games out around my minds. The tari it
(01:25):
was leco and want us to sitting around in the
house doing nothing. And you got to think about the
community going up. Was you go to school, do your home?
Me I had to do my horn first. A lot
of my mom was trick about that, and you go outside.
But when we go outside. I lived on the thirteenth floor.
(01:46):
You're knock on doors, hey man. So we were all
loomed together. We grew up. That's a community. That was
what we were. And then for me, my sister is
a year older than me, so I was in the
middle because my sister was a older than me, but
I hung out around a lot of her friends. Then
(02:09):
I had a group that was a year younger than me,
and so I had friends on both sides older because
I was just like that that guy that was right
there in the middle. I mean, we have I have
a bunch of friends that's turning fifty next year with
me too. But I'm just talking about in my building.
(02:30):
And so I was like, all right, I want to
get back into shape again. And I went running and
I joined the run club and boom went out there
did the intermediate to beginners, and I'm like, ah, this
is not challenging, like I want to rub any. Yeah,
(02:53):
So I took the advanced class. And in this advanced
class it was on Union Third. Practice started from Union's
Turning Pracic and we ran a feel to my old college,
which is Queensboro College. And it was Upper Hill down there.
I didn't even know that the trail was there. Ran
to the forest Harding Highway, go back around, go back
(03:17):
through the trail, ups and down peaks and valleys. So
it was a five mile run five miles ship. It
took thirty minutes to forty minutes. Let's just say when
I got back, because that you know, you leave your
car kids there to start owner, they looking like this
(03:37):
somebody abdupt them because I didn't have no phone. I didn't.
And the thing about running is I ran out, So
me running out it didn't take me out as long
out running put me walking back to bath. On top
of it, my back was stiff and I tookn't move
(04:01):
and it looked like I had a cor And I
remember going to yoga for the first time. I was
riding by the Cupcak Yoga, the Patwalk Fardy class Master Eli.
Then it was in Balustream, New York, and on the
(04:23):
sign he says he teached yoga. Ally went in. He said,
what's wrong with you? Did you have a car act
to me or something? Now he runs five miles a day.
I said, no, I was running in my back went
(04:48):
when that was my first introduction to yoga. Fast forward.
Then I'm the president of our yogis oh been teaching
yoga for haang roughly since Hurricane Sandy, a little bit
after Hurricane Sandy. So it's been it's been a while meditation,
(05:09):
and I work with some of the leaders in the industry.
But I just thought that funny story of how he
get on the path, and and it's not through an
energy work. We date yoga together. But I did energy
waves one, energy rays two. So it's rule about energy
(05:31):
and energy work, energy protection, energy massages which some will
call reiki, but in the plack wid it's just energy waves,
energy waves one, energy waves two. So I did what
energy ways two is the more advanced class where? And
then I'll bring in our guess where we where? Most
(05:54):
people say, oh, the chakra right, we got the shop,
but they point from the crown to the bottle or
in energy ways, it expands through all of the open points,
all of the folding joints, so the aligning from the
(06:18):
top of the crown down. We look at both whole alignment,
which includes about twenty four twenty four to twenty four
entry points and in the body and sometimes my classical
yoga truck. Look know what you're talking. No, you don't
(06:39):
understand that that line from here to hear it spans
out from from all over and and the energy or
the chi or the chakras are expansive, They're not just
with you. But anyway, that's a whole another debate for
(06:59):
yoga nerds, however.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Have a lot so hey, fellow yoga nerds. Yeah, there's
the hundreds of chakras. I mean, we talked about seven,
I think because that's all we can get our brain around.
It's like, listen, I can only deal with seven right now.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, and then seven is like the perfect number even
I think it's like twenty four, so it's like seven
times seven. So it's but it's just so unique how
the body is formulated, and the more that we understand
the body, the more we can help people get over
their limited beliefs or they get through hard times.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And there's even a zero one, right, there's a zero one,
and there's an eight one down below and in the ground. Right,
It's like they don't even have to be in the body.
They're just like sorry, just like.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The body with most people like duties breathing techniques. And
I work now a lot with seniors, so I don't
want to do this with my seniors where we hold
our breath and just feel the body bring because the
porson our body is actually breathing on their own. And
the reason why we get pippos or post clothes is
(08:13):
because we don't allow the body to breathe. But again, yeah,
can tell about writings about yourself and what it is
that you do.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Absolutely, I guess I'm a yoga nerd, But originally, yeah,
I was. I was a CPA for fifteen years, so
that was you know, it's kind of a weird flipover right.
I took a right turn at one point and said
this is not my right plath. So now I'm a coach,
call myself a real life coach because whatever whatever we
(08:43):
come up with, whatever it is that you need out
with and asked to fit your real life or you're
not going to do it right. It's like asking someone
to go to and you know, high level ashtanga class
and they're never going to come back again. You're like,
you got to start where you are. So I do coaching,
but I've had this background where I've been teaching yoga
(09:05):
now twenty years. I started with ashtanga and because everybody does,
and meditation, and i was a massage therapist for fourteen years,
so I've got all this like body wellness knowledge. But
in all that I realized that when people would come
for massage, she'd come for like an hour of asking
me questions about their life. I said, so one day
(09:26):
with somebody said to me, you should just talk to
people and help them. I'm like, that's a good idea,
so I moved it out. I had actually small short story.
I had a stroke in twenty twenty one, and that
was kind of like my wake up call. I was
in the emergency room for three days because they didn't
have any beds, COVID all this stuff, and no one
(09:49):
could visit me and I couldn't see properly. So it
was my silent retreat. I got the gift of a
three day silent retreat, and while I was laying there,
I realized, Okay, to retire from massage. It's time to
move beyond just helping people with physical illness. I was
also doing some business coaching because I have that CPA background,
and said, I got to move outside that. So got
(10:12):
the download of you know, my program is holistic helping
people look at their whole lives. And my podcast came
that week that those three days as well. It's called
back to Me. It's like I got to teach people
how to make sure that if something like this happens
to them, they're okay. Like I'm I was okay, I
(10:32):
was like, okay, I'm in the hospital. So on, instead
of being upset about having a stroke, I said, okay, universe,
why am I here? Like what are you trying to
tell me? You know? So I waited for the lessons
to come and then I said, okay, I got it.
I got it, and I'm going. I'm on my road now. Okay,
thanks for the wake up call. Here I go. So
(10:53):
the short sort long story, short, short story, long is,
you know, I help people figure out what they're really
meant to be doing, and it doesn't have to be
something us all. It doesn't have to be INtime. It
could just be something your fart needs to express. I
haven't figured out how to help them get there.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's it's it's amazing that that this is what you do.
But it was a tribute for time in your life
that brings you to the place you know, this is
trials produces patience, right, Yeah, And you could have took
that time in that bed. I could take the time
with my back and just lay down. But it was like, no,
(11:37):
it's something, it's stop going right, I have to keep going.
You know. He had a time of introspective and where
most people where some people I don't want to characterize
some people where he said, oh my, why am I
vothing it on?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And this is not from there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
What do you think that your many years of being
a practitioner exchangeing energy now is the time that you
need to apply And you think that that is what
kept you from falling apart in actually discovering what it
was that you are doing now.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's so interesting, Yeah, because I think because I had
been a meditator for so long, I think part of
my part of my thing was oh, Kenny, no problem.
We got this silent retreat. No problem, We're just going
to meditate. And there was a part of my brangling,
oh my god, are you kidding me? You had a stroke?
Do you know what that means? And you know the
cascade of doom and gloom that comes, And that voice
(12:42):
was there because I think it's normal. But a bigger
voice said, are you kidding me? Stop being so foolish.
You're in the hospital. This is the best place to
be if there's something wrong, So take advantage of it
and chill out and just see what happens. And it's
funny because I was so calm and relaxed. It was
Halloween weekend, so the emergency room was crazy. Like the
(13:08):
people in there, Oh my goodness, there was some crazy
stuff going on in the emergency room. But I was
in my little cubicologists wearing a mask watching it all
go down. I was like, wow. It was also a
great place to observe, observe how people deal with that
kind of crisis. Some people you could tell they were scared,
(13:29):
they were in denial. They just wanted to go home.
I don't care, I'm fine, I'm fine, Just let me
go home. Some people were having breakdowns, some people were
under arrest, Like there was a lot of really there
was a lot of really interesting things going on, So
I could have gone down that road. And I think
it's meditation and being okay, like having enough knowledge of
(13:56):
I've like did a scan of myself, like okay, I
think I'm okay, I feel okay, I'm in the right spot.
Because at first I was fighting against the doctors, and
then part of me went, why are you arguing with
the doctors? Just let them take care of you, you
know that pushing away. So once I did that and
just went it's like, okay, that's when when you're just
(14:18):
let what's happening be there, good or bad, whatever you
want to label it, it's just a label. You can
actually let yourself be open to whatever it's supposed to
be there for you. Because nothing, I don't think anything
happens to you. It's all happening for you. Right. So
even like December last year, I was in Jordan and
(14:40):
I fell and broke my wrist. Wow, it's so classic,
Like I tripped over the only rock in the middle
of the desert, and I just it was so comical.
I was just like I went up to the guide
to like, I think I hurt myself, and so it
took free cars and three hospitals and all these x
(15:04):
rays because they just kept she was SHOs shitching up,
shas along and people were like, oh my god, did
it hurt. I was like, I don't actually remember. I
just thought it was hilarious because I was watching all
this happen.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And it probably hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, it probably hurt, But I just thought it was
so interesting, like watching this this comedy show of having
to go from this car to this car to this
car and this hospital and over that hospital and yeah,
it's broken, but we don't fix that here, you have
to go over there. And also the people were so
fascinating because what is the white woman doing in a
(15:42):
hospital in Jordan? Right, So they're all like oh, and
they would come up and pat me and give me
a blessing or something. I don't know what they were saying,
but it was it was so fun, like I hadn
such a good time even though I had a broken wrist. Whatever, painkillers,
you're good.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So you had three careers, ah, and so far in
most yes, yes, And most people like if they're lucky,
they get to do two careers right and be successful
at them. What do you think, as a woman entrepreneur,
what do you think is your secret to not being
(16:22):
afraid to start over and then to build, and then
not being afraid to start over and then to build
a game. Yeah, it's the secret in not being afraid
to start, or is the secret in building?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think the secret is not being afraid to start
because you can give yourself, oh my goodness, a million
reasons not to do something. I was actually talking to
somebody last night who she's at this cusp where she
needs to go all in or go get a job
at dunkin Donuts, and she's having all the feels like
(17:00):
I saw every feel in that conversation yesterday, cry and
laugh and scream, and it's like when you're trying, when
you have to think about it, when you have that
I need to make a decision energy, it's like tense
and feels. It doesn't feel good a lot of the times.
But once you make it, Bill, you're on the road
and you just go. So it only takes that ten
(17:22):
seconds of courage to say yeah, I'm good, I got it.
And trust for me is a lot of trust as well,
So it is it is hard I understand for people
to take that first step, to take that I'm going
to do this. I mean, people can have as many
careers as they want. I'll probably reinvent myself again at
some point down the road. I don't know. I just
keep adding more step, but I follow where my heart
(17:46):
calls me. So or if that's too heavy, just follow
your curiosity. Right, So that's really interesting because I'm also
a kayaking instructure. That's really interesting. I want to try that.
That's really interesting. I want to try that that's really interesting.
And that doesn't mean you have to make a career
of all of them. But go and be curious and
(18:07):
try things out, and if you feel called to go
do that. Be brave enough to give yourself the grace
to do that and trust trust that if you have
the curiosity and the desire to do something, that there's
a reason for that. So there's probably something behind that
and you should follow it. Right. That doesn't mean.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, as a former CPA, right, do you still how
how important was that part of your life even for
what you're doing now, because you know to build the
business you have to you still have to have some
level where a lot of businesses fail. Is they they
(18:54):
are good at doing yoga but they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, that is funny. It's funny to say that because
when I started coaching, I started coaching the yoga teachers
and the massage therapists on business because that's you know,
I was working as a massage therapist and the people
that I worked with found out what I used to
do with so they would come to me with all
(19:18):
these letters from the government. Will you help me? Will
you help me? It's like, yeah, I'll help you. Of
course I'll help you. So but it's interesting. People sometimes
ask me, like, do you regret spending all those years.
I'm like, hell no, because one, I made a lot
of money back then, right, So that has given me
(19:39):
the ability to downsize myself and be okay. Like some
people it's like, oh my god, what if I lose
my house. I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm like I'm good,
I'll be okay. So, and it set up that knowledge
of business like I'm not perfect by any means, like
(20:01):
I'm still learning. I've taken tons of Like I didn't
know marketing. I had to take marketing when I started
being an entrepreneur. But I knew how to manage the
back end, and I was coaching the health and wellness
people like, yes, you got to send an invoice. You
can't just visualize and money pours in. You got to
actually take an action. Manifestation requires action, to ask Abraham.
(20:32):
So it totally set me up to be able to
like see where things are going wrong where you know,
and not be and also not to be afraid of money,
like a lot of people in that wellness space think
money is bad. Oh I shouldn't bill people. Oh it's bad.
I'm like no, I'm sorry, Like, it's not bad. It's
(20:56):
a tool. The more you have, the better you can
do things, things to do the things you want to do.
Just because you're rich doesn't make you an asshole. There's
lots of poor assholes too, right.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, it's the assholes walking in every corner, some driving
one hundred thousand dollar cars. So when when you started
to feel the shift? How how long did it take
you to pivot or was it something? Are you a procrastinator?
(21:33):
Are you? Are you excuse my French bulls to the wolves?
Really I'm gone?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Or are you like it's totally funny? I like I
have this fantasy of being a really good planner. But
what will happen is I'll get an idea. And I
actually started doing yoga because one of the vice presidents
where I worked said, hey, do you want to do
some yoga? And I was super stressed out. I was like,
I hear a script, rest stress, I'll go do it.
(22:01):
But I went like one hundred percent and I'm like,
I'm doing it every day, which was so bad, you know,
bad bad, So it was like it was starting to percolate, right,
it was starting to percolate. And when I but when
I decided to do it, like I didn't plan it.
I just waited until it felt like the water was
hot enough and for the coffee and I was like, okay,
(22:24):
I'm done off and I went and I didn't have plans.
When I left my corporate job. I actually went traveling.
I went traveling for three months to India because I said,
I think I'll go to India. So if I went,
and when I came back, because I had given I
was totally blessed like that I could go and take
(22:45):
off for three months and not worry about anything. When
I came back, I said, Okay, I'm going to go
to massar school, became a personal trainer, and I'm going
to open my own yoga studio. Bill done, did I
have that? I'll plan dow in advance new But I
(23:05):
had an idea of the direction I wanted to go,
and then I let kind of the universe deliver. Because
when I decided to go back for massage school, my
boyfriend's father called and said, hey, I've got a place
for you guys to live. And I looked at the
address and it was right down the street from where
my massage school was, and it had a studio that
(23:28):
I could teach yoga. And I was like, are you
kidding me? Of course, we're gonna take it like it
was gorgeous. It was crazy. It's like when I came back,
it was just like here you go, Here you go,
here you go, because I had stuck my stick in
the sand and said this is the direction I'm going.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So yeah, so I'm about to actually nerdy. So who
did you practice when you was in in India?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I practiced with this guy, Shuva Jas. I practiced with
this really old school. I didn't practice one of the
end of the named dudes. I practiced with all these
local old school guys who were the classes were like
three hours long. You're like, I think I'm gonna die,
(24:14):
and they're like, that's your camera. No, no really, I'm
just this.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's and then he woke behind you and they need
mash it down, like go like no, you can love.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, right, well even eve and here. I took a
class with David Life once and I was in his
shoulder stand and I didn't know it at the time,
but I attreniated my discs. I disc in my back
because I countant I sit all the time, and I
was in the shoulder stand, going oh, I'm in pain.
He comes and he pulls my feet and he kicks
(24:56):
my elbows. I'm like, touch me, it's your kama. It's
just no, this is berniated daisty exactly. I think I'm
gonna callide down now.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So like we're laughing at these experiences. However, because you
know been in those rooms and you're listening to us,
you understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, exactly, I don't pull me down.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're like, oh, you know, my stomach hurt?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh n, what's funny? Was I like? I went after
his David Life's class I went to one of the
Cripollu classes and no Seawankorn and she was like, I
don't want to bash Shawn Corn. I think she was
having a bad day, but she was doing chalker opening
and making us feel bad. So I was weeping at
(25:51):
the end of class. And I went to a Krypoli class.
I like, I've got this disc in my back and
I feel like my chalkers had been raped. This guy
comes up to me, he goes, it's okay. I'm just like,
let's just do a little restorative yoga. I'm like, okay, yeah,
let's do that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know, so that's that's great. These are the two
pushbacks to two of the things that I hear when
I when I talk about some of my friendy lyft
waights and not lift weights resistance stuff, and so one
of the things I just need a real exercise, like
oh you think that, well, you can know who happened.
(26:35):
Let me go this, lift some weights with you and
you come on a mat with me for an hour
and a half and let's see.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Oh so when you hear that like it's not and
we're just talking about from tractic food, I understand that
there's a whole internal work that happens with yoga. Book.
We're a practical standpoint when we start to see the
body shaping, and most most people don't like to take
the time. Yoga works fast, it gets you strong fast,
(27:05):
but it's it works from the inside out. So you
may still have a roundness in the pality or wide
shoulders and you're not seeing the definition immediately. But if
you stay on the mat, what what how does that
transformation begins to evolve?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think that it like I used to when I
had I've closed my yoga studio, but when I had
my yoga studio, people can because they wanted the yoga butt, right,
I want a yoga butt. I want a yoga butt.
And I think that like with anything that you do,
there has to be consistency. Like you can't go once
(27:43):
a week to lift weights and think you're going to
get big pythons, right, you can't go to yoga once
a week and think you're going to reach the stadium's
you know, yoga butt enlightenment. But what I found was
the people who struck the yoga butt can be enlightening, right,
why not? But I think what people find when they
(28:05):
start doing it because I same thing. I had a
personal trainer who was training me for a while. He
was a Toronto argonaut, the football player, and he thought, oh,
yoga's like so lame. I said, Okay, I'm just going
to take you to your one son's salutation because it's
not about how money reps you can do. It's not
about how big a way you can curl. It's your
(28:29):
staying relaxed and calm in your inner being, breath control
and precision of movement. Right, so being able to understand
that this alignment is a place of strength. This alignment
and this breath is a way to strengthen me. So
I think what yoga does to help people be stronger
(28:51):
and healthier is a greater understanding of how their body
works and how the things that they do. So people
come up to me, like, I'm actually fifty eight, So
people will come up to me and say, wow, your
posture is so good and like, but it's from consistency
(29:12):
and consistency and consistency that I don't. I'm not aware
of my posture. But when I see other people who
are that, like, I bet you they're an account by
the way they said it, because they're not aware of
what's going on. Everything is in the head, everything's cerebral.
We forget that we've got a body until it starts
to hurt us. So yoga helps you to see you union, right,
(29:37):
uniting the mind and the body, among other things, but
helping you recognize this vehicle that's carrying you around can
be really strong and doesn't have to look like the
cover of Muscle and Fitness, right, So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know, that's that's an amazing point. And earlier we
were starting about the manifestation and how people goes catchphrases, manifestation, gratitude,
all those things like really turns my stomach to count. However,
I understand it. I understand it. I understand for industry,
I get it. But earlier in the year, I was
(30:14):
saying that one of our goals for our podcast is
to get our for a sponsor, and we before they
years over, I didn't know where it was, how it
was going to come. I was like, befoty years old,
we're going to have a sponsor. And when you know,
Cozy Earth is one of our first sponsors of the
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(30:36):
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The holidays are coming well by the time you listen
the holidays over the New Years here? Why not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Uh, treat yourself to some great lenen How important was
it for you in this last shift to rest up,
to get the mind ready for you're new She would
embrace and feel And then how in telling everyone else
(31:43):
that I'm shifting again, you'll be fine? How was that conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It was? It was interesting. First of all, congratulations, way
to go woo woo. Got a sponsor, yeahho, And maybe
i'll declare that of my January first episode, I'm going
to get a sponsor this year. So my massage clients,
some of them were in tears. And because when you're
(32:14):
like when you're a massage therapist. For some people, you're
also their emotional support right stuff they're going through, And
so that was hard, Like I did, you don't want
you don't want people to feel lost. So I did
a lot of work to make sure that I could
(32:34):
find them someone who would match them to help them
continue on their journey, like someone who i've I wasn't
going to say, oh, here's a list of massage therapist.
I actually went out and I because I know a bunch,
I'm like, I think you should see this person. I
think you should see that person. So I did all
of that work, and I was already coaching on the side,
(32:56):
but that stroke was the it's time to it's just
time to maybe focus on one thing, Heather, maybe just
two things. I don't know. But I had to rest
because brains are so interesting. Like I felt fine physically,
but I could work for about twenty minutes. Then I
(33:20):
had to sleep, Like I could not continue. I had
to lie down and sleep. I couldn't see properly, couldn't
see properly. Still, I was still a bit off. If
I wore my glasses that they made me nauseous. So
I actually had to project my computer onto my TV
and sit six feet away from it to answer emails
and then I'd have to go sleep. So it was
(33:42):
like my body knew what I needed, so it made
sure that I did it and I had no options.
So that took It took me about a year before
because I do lifts weights like two three days a week.
It took me a year before I was really felt
like one day I went, oh, act like I'm back
to my old level. I wasn't, you know, doing nothing
(34:06):
during that year. I was doing the things I could
do that were focused and would move me forward, and
then resting and then resting and then resting. And you know,
nutrition matters. Now we were talking earlier. I still love
potato chips and chocolate, but I'll also have my kale
and whatever smoothie and you know, all the things that
(34:29):
are going to feed my body to make it healthy.
And part of that is also knowing what your body needs.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, how important was that? Seasoning your life for what
you're doing now?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hearing the details, being able to only do work for
twenty and lie down. And so if I put to
you and you're coaching me, and I'm giving you all
these excuses, like, man, you know I know you best,
not your approach, but the.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well sometimes sometimes people get Sometimes people get a little
tough love, Like I won't tough love people right from
the skip, from the get go. First I get to
feel them out to see if they can handle the
tough love. When I point out to them that they're
lacking integrity, and they're lacking because people will go, I've
got tons of integrity. It's like you can keep your
(35:22):
promise to everybody but yourself. That's a like lack of integrity.
So being responsible enough to keep your promises to yourself.
So I I'm not always perfect, Oh my gosh, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not perfect, But helping people recognize their
(35:45):
excuses bullshit. And they're trying to hide from something, can
I swear on here?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Your father?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And they're trying to hide from something, and if they're
not ready to see it, what it is they're hiding from,
like sometimes well let's go over here, like something that
will take them maybe around the back door, the side door,
if they're really having problems bumping up against something, because
you bump up against a lot when you're like I've
(36:13):
had I could tell tons of stories about all the
crap that I've done. But you bump up against a
lot of stuff, You're like, okay, here comes another lesson
down the pipe. But yeah, it's like finding if you
can't go straight into it and you keep hitting that
wall and you can't help them climb over it, you
got to help them find a way around, maybe find
a back door. Right.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's funny that you would say that, Like we bump
into stuff and after a while it becomes almost like
all right, it's cloudy outside, it's about to ring because
you start to your life, our life ebbs and flows
and kunding it. So for me, every time I was
(36:53):
doing something in business, anytime I had a bunch of
resistance or things happen, like oh wow, break news. Because
that's just the way that my weather, my gps, my life.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
But some people think that's the universe telling them not
to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's like, well, no, it staying all right when you
have it is on the other side of the rainbow's
coming exactly. But we don't want people want the rainbow.
They don't want to go through the store.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
They don't want the rain They just want the rainbow.
They want the easy way. When I was a massage sapist.
When lady said to me one day she was she
was concrete, her shoulders, her traps were like, get me
a hammer and chisel. And I was asked, she's telling
me about her job. She worked in some kind of
corporate office. I said, she said, well, can you just
(37:52):
give me a pill for this? I thought, there is
what's wrong. We want the easy way, and it's not
like it's that hard, but you got to be able
to put in a little bit of effort. If you
want muscles, you gotta go put a little bit of effort.
Don't just take ozambic or whatever the latest crap is
(38:12):
that they're telling you to take. I mean, do the thing,
eat their good food, do the work, sit on your mat,
like all of the things that we know we want
to do, but we don't want to do it. I
actually had a dream last night. I was trying to
find my piece of paper where I wrote it down
where I was writing an article which apparently I'm going
to write because it's in my dream called Welcome to
(38:36):
your belief Story. So everything you do in your life
is based on a belief that you installed. At some
point your software got installed. You didn't arrive here hustle, unhappy,
like your rove arrived on the planet. Yehamah, let's play it,
let's eat, let's pooh, let's have fun. Right, So at
some point you installed these weird beliefs that came from
(38:58):
somewhere talk past life, but let's just stick to this
life where you like, you went out in the rain
and you're like, oh, that was crappy, I'm unhappy, I'm wet,
so you don't ever want to go out in the
rain again, or that was too hard and I'm too tired,
and instead of like that was interesting, afterwards, I felt better,
(39:19):
so that work was actually worth it because I feel
better in the end. So these beliefs that are in
your head are running you and you don't even realize it.
So when you've got that kind of decision, like you're
wired to say, yeah, breakthrough, let's go, some people are
wired for is too harge. I'm just going to go
over here and how live the life that I wasn't
(39:40):
meant too. But it's easier. And the people who watch
The Secret, I think they think that it's supposed to
just land in your lap, but it's not. There has
to be action, and there has to be effort on
your part. They'll deliver if you put in the work right.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
See, everybody, I told you we set you out. The
feet of the master is walking. Victory will re build
from inside. Oh, you're not looking to superficially build the machine.
We're like the people that build the six million dollar man.
And if you're young, you don't know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Nice, I'm there, man, I gotcha.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Three. My last question for you, what books have impacted
you or influenced you? Could be fiction. Non fiction doesn't
have to be something that you recently. Right, And we
were sitting down with some young lady. You said, you
know what, read this book?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think get a help who that I really love
and actually have read more than once Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
So did you read it?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh so good. Her audiobook, by the way, she said,
got such a great voice. I've listened to it over
and over. I didn't read Eat Pray Love because I'm
not interested in that, because I already did my own
Eat Pray Love. But Big Magic is awesome. And Jen Cinciro,
you're a badass, you are, yes, yes, And when she
(41:07):
reads her audiobook, she's really good too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
You have such a great speaking voice. You come across.
I can't really see you telling someone your food.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Now. I'm the oldest of four kids, so.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You have to have that conversation in a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. My sister and brothers will tell
you I can do it.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
But there you have it. Everyone listen. You don't have
to send cash, apps of venmos or anything. We leave
with value. We have conversations that you can apply to
your life. These are conversations that we want you to
walk away from from listening to us and get some
actionable steps. You don't have to allow a stroke or
(42:00):
a hospital stay to bring you down. In fact, you
can use that time and say, hey, I'm having a
mini retreat when I leave from a quick my old
business and start a new one. Why because I walk
in victory. Walk with your head down, don't walk make
an excuses. Your likes. Your subscriptions are valuable to us.
If you've made it this far, you might as well
(42:21):
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(43:02):
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