January 2, 2025 • 41 mins
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What Does your car and watch say about you? a breif psychological profiling from Carol to see what these items say about your character. But as always more casual watch talk, and possible look into what future episodes will cover.
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What Does your car and watch say about you? a breif psychological profiling from Carol to see what these items say about your character. But as always more casual watch talk, and possible look into what future episodes will cover.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:26):
met a guy in Taiwan. He has a compass within
a watch.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So I know you're looking for a compass. I don't
know if it's pilot worthy, but if he's just into
compasses and watches, whoever it is would appreciate it that
if you could send me any information on it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I wonder if I thank him for Christmas. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Originally these watches were made for Muslims because they need
to know where Mecca was at all times, so there's
a compass built inside the watch. What this guy does
he finds new stock, vintage new stock, or old new stock.
So he's found a bunch of watches that haven't ever
(01:13):
been manufactured. He's got the cases, he's got all the mechanics.
So he just puts it together and sells it as
new vintage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is the wildest idea I've ever heard. But it's
so creative and so good that he can make the
assembly based off of vintage arts that never got put
together in the first place. That is that is the
neatest thing. That's like me remembering when I can't afford
a chanel piece of jewelry, and they have people that
(01:45):
take like the buttons off of the jackets or trinkets
off of purses and they string it into a necklace
or an earring and sell it for that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's cool. Oh my god, I found it. I just
found it. Sorry, I'm sending it to you right now.
If you're phone buzzes see it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you, Havan to Vali, thank.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You so Hello Carol, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Thank you, thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Hopefully I can get you on our show well. With
the Detroit Auto Show coming up and the Toronto Auto
Show coming up, there's a strong crossover between cars and watches,
and I thought we should talk more about cars and watches.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What is on your mind in that association, because I
have as much knowledge as perhaps the average driver to
know your car should have some kind of watch your
timekeeping peace. But what else might you delve us into
for conversations.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's fun, but it's legitimate because you got to understand
I do work with a lot of single people. With
single people they're dating or there wanting to date, or
they want to be successful. I'm dating. What's more important
a car or watch to a potential suitor. Let's say interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, firstly, your definition of single as someone who's dating
is interesting. I'll leave that alone. Hmm. There could be
some gender studies on that piece. And then there's also
a piece on what you can call profiling. I'll take
(03:36):
that from forensic psychology, but is like the biggest joy
in my life. But to go back to the first
point about gender studies on value of a relationship based
on a watch or a car, I think it really depends.
When I speak to the single people, they oftentimes seem
(03:59):
to for the car because it's an obvious piece, and
it's just it's more out there to share and show watches.
Most of my friends who are single or are avid
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hobbyists of some kind tend to have more than one watch,
so therefore it depends on the occasion, then they'll pick
the watch less. So for a car, some people have
a winter versus a summer car, but most of the
time they seem to spend more time showcasing their car
than their time pieces. And I think the underlying assumption
(04:43):
is most women probably don't care to look at their
wrist if we're looking at like a male suitor to
a potential female companion. Right, So that's what I've seen.
If you speak to women that are very utilitarian and
practical and independent and curious, they tend to pick the
(05:12):
watch over the car because from a financial perspective, a
car is a depreciating asset, so it's an expense, but
a watch is an asset. I remember saying that one
time in one of our other episodes. So a woman
who is financially sensitive might say, Wow, you just spent
(05:32):
two hundred k on this car depreciating value. But that's
different if you spend two hundred k on a JLC,
because that's an appreciating value. I like that style and
the way you think, because you're fiscally responsible, for.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Example, this is great I am. I think from a
guy's point of view, from my social group, I have
to say they look at a watch more for some reason.
I don't know if it's because these guys are watch fanatics,
or maybe they're old school you know what I mean, Like,
(06:10):
they pick up the person, they take them out on
the date, so it's their car. Now, you know what,
I'm gonna stop right there because Mark talk about it.
I'm like, yeah, these guys are dinosaurs, they're old fashioned.
Never mind, My point is moot because I'm talking about
a modern person, and I doubt they're very modern.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I think there's merit to that, even within the social
studies of what generation do you represent and then how
do you show value? So perhaps in your case, the
older generation sees a vehicle as a vehicle just your
solution to get from point A to point B and
bring your suitor along, your companion along. The newer generation
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or younger generation might say, the first impression I'm going
to have when I land on their doorstep is what
car I'm driving. And it's actually an interesting story because
I remember one of my first dates with my current partner.
He told me, Hey, so just so that you're prepared,
I'm driving a van and I said, okay, that's great.
(07:18):
Then we can go on road trips and I can
lie down.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's awesome, amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, And he resides in a mid to older generation,
so it seems maybe that I've talked myself out of
the idea that it's age related. I would ask a
question to the group of friends that prefer the watch
for value. Are they considered introverted or like to keep
to themselves or are they very like high self advocate,
(07:45):
out there and extrinsic and exuberant and like to be
the spotlight in the room.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Interesting point, They are definitely out there. They they probably
prefer the spotlight more than they prefer not to be
in it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The watch is still their preference that undes some profiling
for me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
This is their suitor, So they still spend probably a
little too much on their own vehicle, but in terms
of their suitor, they don't care as much. Or I
guess they do, because when you think of being in
a spotlight outside of a car, for example, it's the
watch that you know, kind of shines, whether it be
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a restaurant or a social event. The car doesn't go
beyond the valet. So well, maybe oh interesting, okay, yeah, yeah,
they yeah, prefer the spotlight. They like the shine. I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There is one thing that's interesting about cars and watches
that I This notion might stick with you or not.
The choice of whether you pick whatever or watch you pick,
or whatever car you pick, says something about a person.
So I'll give an easy example for cars to start.
You pick a Ferrari, a roaring throws you off down
(09:14):
the street and makes your heart skip a beat. Ferrari
versus an Aston Martin, What do you think that says
about a person in terms of what their personalities might
be like? And then think about it from a watch perspective.
If I chose eighteen carrot Daytona that's like multi colored,
(09:36):
I don't know there is one out there. I can't
remember what it's called. Versus an ap What does that
say about a person?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You beat me to the punch. I was gonna ask
you this question. I think it's funny because with certain cars,
certain watches, especially at the upper echelon, like when we're
talking Ferraris and I think you're talking about I think
it's the rainbow Daytona with all the different colored diamonds. Yes,
(10:10):
when you're getting up to there. We're talking about people
who both understand the market of cars or watches, and
they are in a certain lifestyle where they want the best.
I think I did an episode a little while ago
different brands will speak about the nature of a person.
(10:34):
So a driven success oriented and this is just a generalization,
so driven, success oriented, goal oriented person. They might seek
a Ferrari, they might seek that rainbow Daytona just because
it's a it's a landmark, it's another goal, it's a
it's a statement of their success. Right Whereas and this
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can be true with an AP and an ascid Martin
just so I imagine they're the same thing, success oriented, goal focus,
but maybe not a connoisseur as let's say I watch
connoisseur or a car connoisseur, but definitely both speaks of
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a person that's success driven, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So let's take an example of a character from Billions.
If you've watched it's a hedge fund series, fantastic learning
about analysts and how they bind hedge opportunities to invest
in it's really good. And you have someone like Bobby Axelrod.
Now in this series, he wears an AP, but he
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does eventually end up driving a Ferrari. So what do
you make of that?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So when you say hedge fund, already, I'm thinking a
certain type of Wall Street characteristic that pops in my mind.
You know, a certain a brow, a certain brow that
pops to my mind, and I have to think that
they just want the high ticket price without even knowing
(12:16):
its significance or value in its own niche So he
probably wanted to ask Martin, really, good car, great car,
has a lot of prestige, But probably someone said a
Frari's better, so he switched over to a Ferrari just
because it it might be better.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That brings me to a question. Do you think that
there is a difference between watch and or car preferences
based on whether you had generational wealth or you've built
your own wealth.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh, this is a good one, basically old money versus
new money. Right, Yes, again, I think a new money
person would be more in flying to oh, man, you're
gonna make me like you're putting Carol, You're gonna make
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me sound like a bad person, like I'm judging people.
But I imagine old money would be more interested in some
of the bigger brands, or I should say not the
bigger brands, brands that have been around longer, like the Pattec, Philips,
the JLC, just because their parents probably had that and
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just because their parents probably talk down other brands, whereas
the new money. I imagine they're getting their information within
their social group, probably also getting their information from influencers
on You Too and Hollywood, So they're probably looking at
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what's on people's wrists, like an ap AP's a big
one with hip hop, Rolex is a great one. I
imagine they're getting more of that. The new money is
geting more of their information that way.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think that's an interesting evaluation of old versus new
money and how their mental models are constructed based on
their source of information. Do you think that quality or
functionality ever come into the picture that could be used
as a distinguishing factor between the two, or do you
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think that those are part and person of all luxury
brands as an assumed right of passage, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Let's say rite a passage. Yeah, definitely, because if they
wanted accuracy, they'd get a G. Shock's fair. They want
to functionality, get a G shaw. Okay, let me ask
you this, just as a fun game. A Ferrari driver,
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what do you think he wears?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you mean like his watch?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What's his watch?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That rainbow prodox I was telling you about? Okay, probably
something like that where it's probably encrusted with diamonds or
customized you know what, our watch group, we have a
guy like that, don't we in our WhatsApp group chat.
He probably's got a couple of blinging items in there.
Let's see. Oh, as we speak, someone does a risk check.
(15:38):
He probably has some ornate pieces. It doesn't really matter
so much what it is, it's the design of it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Maybe you've got a terbillion Trump Victory one which is
like this really blinged out? Was it one hundred thousand
dollars prices for only one hundred and forty seven supply
out there? Maybe it looks like that versus someone who
didn't drive a Ferrari. That's my assumption. The louder, the
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louder looking watches.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And what would someone who drives, let's say, a Prius
wear on the wrist.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, they're eco friendly. They chose a Prius either because
of price point and affordability and or the expertise of
toyotas in the electric car world. In that market, they're
probably more utilitarian. I don't know if I would say
g shock necessarily, but probably something like a citizen.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, like an eco drive sys and their solar.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Power right on, or it could be a TIMEX.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, is that a good thing? Or oh no, no,
I like time X. Now there's a place, time and
place for time X. Absolutely I have three, So.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
There you go. It's from functionality and sustainability standpoint. I
think it falls in line with choice of car as well.
That's why I picked the time X. They've got a
good legacy going as well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, and how about a Tesla. I'm my own opinions
of Tesla, But what would the Tesla have a driver
of a Tesla have on the wrists?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, So this one's interesting as well because it depends
on what country or continent you're driving the Tesla on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Interesting Okay, So I heard.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And this came from a local, So I don't think
I can get bashed for this. Tesla's are all over,
La all over. It's like the trending thing to do
is you have one next to certain other cosmetic surgery
tendencies that you have. So I think about a Tesla
driver as having something maybe mid tier, but even even
(18:11):
like the new rich would probably drive a Tesla as
well or have one as a daycar. So I would
say an Apple Watch, I agree, or a Rolex GMT
at best interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yes, I agree. I know Tesla owners who are all
about They love the Elon musk, and they're like Apple people,
they love Steve Jobs. They're more in love with the
man behind the brand than the actual product. I see that.
I could see that love fest between Apple and Tesla.
(18:57):
But there's so many Tesla owners right now that I
talk to have this air of arrogance. Not all of them,
but a lot of them. They're like, my Tesla, this
my Tesla, that I have a Tesla. I you know, well,
I call them cars, but you can call it Tesla whatever.
(19:21):
But I could see them gravitating to a Rolelex because
Rolex is such a powerful, world recognized brand, a standard
of success. I could totally see them going for that.
When I say this, it's not a knock against Rolex,
(19:42):
trust me, it's a knock against Tesla owners because I
love Rolex and Rolex are amazing watches. But people who
drive a Tesla and probably buy a Rolex are buying
it for just the symbol I that interesting Rolex or
(20:03):
smart watch. That's yeah, you got your finger on the pulse, Carol.
There's a lot of the psychology you're talking about. This
gender psychology and gender profiling. There's a lot too to this.
I didn't know you were big. I didn't know you're
a student of that at all.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That was the love of my undergraduate life was taking
all these different psychology courses that focused on development, language forensics.
All of that comes together in adulthood in a way
I never thought I could apply. And it makes life
interesting when you get these inferences right, and it makes
(20:45):
it exciting when you get new information that changes the
way you interpret certain driving factors and social effects, you know.
So that is my hobby, unfortunately to all, and it's
a free one because just takes my mind and my
eyeballs to make.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That connection, and that leads me to a next vehicle,
which you don't have to you can choose to skip.
So what does a mini van driver where I want
to pass? Or are you gonna give a biased point
of view? Or what's the psychology there? All?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right? Van drivers probably a person of family. You don't
need all those seven seats unless you have children and
pets and a house full of love. They are also
reliable and focused around comfort and is a journey vehicle,
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one that you would pick to take road trips, go
to campsites, all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It should market minivans. You should should be on the
frame journey love it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Did you watch the recent Marvel with Wolverine and Deadpoole
and they said the audissy fan was like barely a car.
I laughed, but I also cringed at the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's right, I forgot. Yeah, the minivan plays a crucial role,
you know, all that just decide.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't really know in terms of a watch pattern
that they might wear. I think they're also you know, functional, reliable, comfortable,
and timely. If you're someone who's running around between schedules
and you know, picking up your people for their extracurriculars,
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and you're also trying to track scheduled dates, and you're
probably going to get like an Apple watch or a
Garment or an Android watch because you've got all your
specs in one place, your calendar and the time and messaging.
If you're not into digital watches, I think they would
pick something robust but not necessarily luxury, but reliable, so
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a Cassio, maybe an Omega. They are a lady, I
think I don't really know if do a lot of
women wear watches. I'm thinking more from the men.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Women wear watches. Absolutely. I'm just trying to recall all
the people I saw in the last week in my head,
and women wear watches. A lot of them smart watches.
Oh my godness. The only two not wearing a smart
watch right now? Oh my god. They all have Rolexes.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's funny. That's a big extreme, like on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hey, I should be hanging out with more on them.
They got great taste. I think I think I just
saw roletts on your and right. No, yeah, they all
had Rolexes this week. Yeah, everyone that encountered was oh no,
sorry one tag Hoyer, Tag Hoyer. Yeah, but everyone else
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was a Rolex. So everyone had good taste. That was
a good company, now you You also brought up an
amazing article about going back full circle, going back to
the dash and having an analog clock on the dashboard
of a car. I loved how the high ends do
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have analog, some have both analog digital, and I love
that it brings back the history because a lot of
these car manufacturers were coach makers right for a horse
and buggy, and as they became motorized, they wanted not
only a timepiece, but a timer and at the time
(24:56):
it was watch companies and coach makers, right, So I
love that in your article and in our conversation you
mentioned one particular brand, and I want you to talk
about a little bit about that because we did a
podcast a while back, Kevin and I where we talked
about different analog time pieces and cars. When I went back,
(25:20):
we didn't talk about your brand. Your brand is like
wildly popular, wildly sought after. Well, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
If you never if you didn't tell me that analogs
are only associated with high end cars, I would have
not known that association and appreciated the history that reminder
of them being coach manufacturers, because then it kind of
brings in this idea of you've got coach makers that
make luxury cars with analog watch clocks because of the
(25:53):
timepiece and timekeeping capabilities and the austerity of it all.
Then I think about equestrians and the coach and the
so it all just kind of comes together in this
Like what comes up for me is this beautiful English
backcountry with all those things lined up in front of
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a castle or something. Me too that I always said
that if I was to ever get a wedding I
wanted to be in a coaching carriage and go down
my street. That was my only request. So it's just
funny how that reminded me of that memory. But going
back to your question, I guess I'll start with the
origin story how it even came upon it in the
first place. I was sitting in a car of my
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one of my bosses when I was working in Asia,
and he was like, check this out. I bought this
new Mercedes Benz station wagon. I'm like, I don't even
know Mercedes Benz has had station wagons. And so I'm
sitting there and I'm like, where's your clock and he's like,
it's right there. I said, that is a watch. That
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is the clock, and like does it even work or
is that just like an orning piece? And he's like, no,
no that. He's like, all Mercedes have analog clocks. I'm like,
why are they for old people? And he said I
don't know, and I'm like what. And this was me
and at my best obviously, right, I was very young,
and I didn't understand. It was just it was such
a nuanced look of a car dashboard. I never expected
(27:24):
it to literally be like a ticking clock. Then I
realized when I sent you that article, a lot of
Mercedes benz Is still kind of kept that as a
symbol of a status and of the luxury brand that
they are. And I said, oh, and even reading in
Quora forms and Reddit forms that people are devastated that
they're actually switching over to digital. And so I looked
(27:48):
into that and realized that the Porsche also has an
analog and has that time that stopwatch capability you spoke of,
and the Range Rover, Land Rover Defender series, and I thought, oh,
my gosh, it's a status symbol. I didn't even realize.
And here I am laughing at the fact that they
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were analog watch or something as intemporary as events.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I wonder what your boss was thinking at the time.
But Mercedes was classic. Well, yeah, a lot of them
didn't have an analog. I know the S class had
IWC do their dashboards.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That is so okay. That changes it only because now
I know what that is. It was so weird. I
was just talking to my sister two weeks ago about saying,
should I get a Portuguese. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They're great price points, I love the classic design, great
history behind it too.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I also think about sound systems in some of these
luxury vehicles as well that go with like the Seinheisers
or the bow, there's the anchor and you know, so
it's kind of all kind of coming together, these extra
finishing touches that really amp up with the social class
of the vehicle. So then you know, rounding back to
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your first question, what has higher value a car or
a watch? I'm like, can't you have.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It in both? You're absolutely right, you can have both
high luxury car and high luxury watch without the concern
one day, you know, maybe I should drive a minivan well,
comfort and practicality.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Compare that to if you're driving a fun jeep or
an suv, right, Like, it's a different kind of ride,
it's a different kind of maneuverability. So you certainly can't
take your suv driving skills to a van. You might
skid out. So just a defense.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Again, when they win the lotto, price and maintenance and
the time to do both like shop and maintain these
find automobiles and fine watches, then I would buy.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, there's a debate about the buying and the leasing too.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh right, right, yeah, maintenance.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Packages, I think you're good with if you win the
lottery cry cuts for all that was. I think that's
a beautiful gift.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I gotta check my numbers now, I know you only
have ten minutes. Laugh. Is there anything else you want
to add in terms of cars and watches?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I do you mentioned the Detroit and Toronto Auto Show.
Curious to know when you go there, will you bring
up any of these watch topics that we discussed today
to them.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So in the past with the Toronto Auto Show, we
talked to a few of the influencers about their cars.
Trying to think, Oh, I forgot the name of their channel,
but Jacob and Uri their Toronto YouTuber great show. Was
it straight Pipes or loud Pipes or something like that.
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And then there's a husband wife team from BC. We
talk to them and they were watch collectors as well.
I've seen their channel a few times on YouTube. If
you are an avid YouTube automobile person, they're always the
one that says hit us for a subscribe. We would
all often bring up watches with them and they would
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just go on about whatever piece they're wearing, which is
fun because you can see, like the light the excitement
they have for cars. Is still there for watches. It's great.
So when we go to Detroit, and hopefully you'll be
coming to Detroit maybe in the minivan, we'll see if
(31:47):
what happens down there, if we're going to run into
the same influencers, or I would love to talk to
some of them manufacturers, because in the Toronto Auto Show,
when you have a press pass, you're just lost in
the sea of press. So all the CEOs they're talking
to the old school news press. They're still talking to
(32:07):
Toronto's star Sunday Sun. But it's the influencers that kind
of talk to each other. So it'd be interesting to
see what happens with Detroit. Wow, I'm still waiting for
our press past. So Detroit, if you're listening to this episode,
hopefully this is the Carol, this is the David. There's
a Kevin. He's not here, he's behind the scenes. I
(32:28):
promise you that on the email.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, thank you. That is a generous offering that you're
looking to have that as an invitation extended to me.
I've not been to an auto show before, let alone
out of country.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, I can't talk about Detroit. The last time I
was there was a pre pandemic. But Toronto Auto Show,
I think they have an amazing press day that I
think you'll appreciate because it's not just about automobiles, but
it's also to promote the Canadian International Auto Show. More importantly,
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it's an event that they try to make very friendly
for everyone, and also there's space given for you to
meet other influencers. Whether it's intentional or not, it happens
and there's a lot of sharing and collaboration, and of
course there are activities also again to promote not necessarily
(33:31):
a brand, but the Canadian International Auto Show as a
family event or an event to do while in Toronto.
Even though you're not an automobile enthusiast, you come down
there and you're afraid that you might be bored, you
won't be because it's about the show and what it
has to offer.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That is so beautiful. The way that you've described this
painting of family and collaboration and support between neighbors, I
think that is that's a different message altogether. It wasn't
expecting all of that coming from an event like that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
No one does, and that's what makes it really special
for people listening. I didn't mute that you might have
heard him hacking in the background. That's my dog. Oh
he fell asleep again and just woke up, and oh
that's the first thing he does, is hacked. Oh sorry,
old guy, poor guy. As always what happens, We always
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fall off topic and take these sidebars. But I really
find that profiling that you're talking about very interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It can be my detriment too when I get it wrong.
It's a time saver in some senses as well. I'm
sure you have as a coach as well. His idea
of they don't serve me, then I'm not going to
invest more time and energy in it. So it just
helps me create my own bubble of self care that
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I don't end up over extending myself to everybody. So
that's why I've kind of used it, is to help myself.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Good life hack, because time is precious, right, you don't
want to waste time on the wrong people. You know,
you know what that is a little judge. Actually, oh man,
this is horrible. I'm going to come off as a
horrible person, or you could be.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Saying the thing that everybody else is afraid to say.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I saw something where I don't know if I forwarded
it to you, but mind of to your spa sense.
Cano Reeves was saying, there's what seven billion people in
this world, and when one person's being mean to you,
they're doing you a favor because then you know not
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to waste your time on them.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That's a gift. Actually, they just help to weed themselves up.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, can take that filtered themselves out. So maybe judgment
is what we need, I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
In the animal world survivalship. I think it makes a
lot of sense. And humans don't have that exception in
our spheres and environment as well.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Animals don't they judge as well.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Five, But we take it into our social environment for protection,
I guess, and maintaining a safety from the people that
might be too far off the beaten path from what
you're comfortable with. And it's the fear of the unknown,
right just totally out of your any past experience. Probably
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better to stay away or you're curious and then you
you lean into that. So I think it probably comes
from a more primordial instinct of us as to why
humans can be judgmental. I'm excusing myself from it. If
anybody's read between them lives there.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's not our personality that's being judging. It's our evolution. Yeah,
I guess looking at the animal worlds cats they're a judging.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I agree with you. I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
We will definitely have to talk more about cars and
watches because you know, I'm going to try to get
Kevin involved, because if it's just the two of us,
we're just man all over the place. I have to
get Kevin and then do the three of us. And
he's such a person. Yeah, he's a He's a great
guy to have to keep focused and on track. Okay,
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what's accountable?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Okay, someone gets to have an accountability partner.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I know he wanted to do one with you earlier,
but his timing is just you know, when when we
all meet person one day, we could talk about what's
been happening in their lives, and he just hasn't had
the time to participate as much.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You're his accountability partner for that.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But Carol, thanks, I know you have to go as always.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, Lo, it's a pleasure to talk about that. I've
not considered cars and watches in tandem before, but it does.
It does make sense. And now we're going to add
equestrians and the whole writing culture to this.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Possibly, Yeah, you know these equestrian events, if I'm not mistaken,
they do have time pieces, and I think it's sponsored
by Rolex right these events, I'm not too sure. I'm
trying to think.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I know Citizen and Lon Jeans.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Does for the past Olympics. Omega did some for the
equestrian events, but not the standalone events. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Rolex is mostly tennis. I've seen. There must be something
there because you see lot of watch ads for equestrian
like that sort of theme in that backdrop.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Maybe my god. Yeah, the JLC reversal was made for polo.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Oh my goodness. Oh I didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I think they slipped over so it doesn't get damaged
during polo play.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I did not know. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
See we have to do this now.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
No, I have to get the reverso when.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You play polo. See, oh my god, you've been wearing
the wrong watch when you play polo.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I need to learn how to ride too, play with
the one life clothes right there?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, potential topics in the future when we talk about
horses and watches, we can talk about psychology and profiling.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh I would love that. I love that. On for
car choices as well. I've had some many a good
banter about people's choices and cars and maybe what that
might infer about preferences and lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
There's so much more we could talk about cars and
watches and in the relationship with engineering and mechanical and
gears and all that, and more topics for us to
talk about here. Again, thank you for your time. We'll
see you real soon, okay, Carol.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thank you David. It was always fun. As you know,
you always bring some riveting topics and I never know
if I'll be able to answer them impromptu, but it's
always been a pleasurable conversation experience.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You always take it to a level that I do
not expect, and that's probably why we fall off track.
But thanks Carol.
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met a guy in Taiwan. He has a compass within
a watch.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So I know you're looking for a compass. I don't
know if it's pilot worthy, but if he's just into
compasses and watches, whoever it is would appreciate it that
if you could send me any information on it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I wonder if I thank him for Christmas. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Originally these watches were made for Muslims because they need
to know where Mecca was at all times, so there's
a compass built inside the watch. What this guy does
he finds new stock, vintage new stock, or old new stock.
So he's found a bunch of watches that haven't ever
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been manufactured. He's got the cases, he's got all the mechanics.
So he just puts it together and sells it as
new vintage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is the wildest idea I've ever heard. But it's
so creative and so good that he can make the
assembly based off of vintage arts that never got put
together in the first place. That is that is the
neatest thing. That's like me remembering when I can't afford
a chanel piece of jewelry, and they have people that
(01:45):
take like the buttons off of the jackets or trinkets
off of purses and they string it into a necklace
or an earring and sell it for that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's cool. Oh my god, I found it. I just
found it. Sorry, I'm sending it to you right now.
If you're phone buzzes see it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you, Havan to Vali, thank.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You so Hello Carol, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Thank you, thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Hopefully I can get you on our show well. With
the Detroit Auto Show coming up and the Toronto Auto
Show coming up, there's a strong crossover between cars and watches,
and I thought we should talk more about cars and watches.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What is on your mind in that association, because I
have as much knowledge as perhaps the average driver to
know your car should have some kind of watch your
timekeeping peace. But what else might you delve us into
for conversations.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's fun, but it's legitimate because you got to understand
I do work with a lot of single people. With
single people they're dating or there wanting to date, or
they want to be successful. I'm dating. What's more important
a car or watch to a potential suitor. Let's say interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, firstly, your definition of single as someone who's dating
is interesting. I'll leave that alone. Hmm. There could be
some gender studies on that piece. And then there's also
a piece on what you can call profiling. I'll take
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that from forensic psychology, but is like the biggest joy
in my life. But to go back to the first
point about gender studies on value of a relationship based
on a watch or a car, I think it really depends.
When I speak to the single people, they oftentimes seem
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to for the car because it's an obvious piece, and
it's just it's more out there to share and show watches.
Most of my friends who are single or are avid
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hobbyists of some kind tend to have more than one watch,
so therefore it depends on the occasion, then they'll pick
the watch less. So for a car, some people have
a winter versus a summer car, but most of the
time they seem to spend more time showcasing their car
than their time pieces. And I think the underlying assumption
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is most women probably don't care to look at their
wrist if we're looking at like a male suitor to
a potential female companion. Right, So that's what I've seen.
If you speak to women that are very utilitarian and
practical and independent and curious, they tend to pick the
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watch over the car because from a financial perspective, a
car is a depreciating asset, so it's an expense, but
a watch is an asset. I remember saying that one
time in one of our other episodes. So a woman
who is financially sensitive might say, Wow, you just spent
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two hundred k on this car depreciating value. But that's
different if you spend two hundred k on a JLC,
because that's an appreciating value. I like that style and
the way you think, because you're fiscally responsible, for.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Example, this is great I am. I think from a
guy's point of view, from my social group, I have
to say they look at a watch more for some reason.
I don't know if it's because these guys are watch fanatics,
or maybe they're old school you know what I mean, Like,
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they pick up the person, they take them out on
the date, so it's their car. Now, you know what,
I'm gonna stop right there because Mark talk about it.
I'm like, yeah, these guys are dinosaurs, they're old fashioned.
Never mind, My point is moot because I'm talking about
a modern person, and I doubt they're very modern.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I think there's merit to that, even within the social
studies of what generation do you represent and then how
do you show value? So perhaps in your case, the
older generation sees a vehicle as a vehicle just your
solution to get from point A to point B and
bring your suitor along, your companion along. The newer generation
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or younger generation might say, the first impression I'm going
to have when I land on their doorstep is what
car I'm driving. And it's actually an interesting story because
I remember one of my first dates with my current partner.
He told me, Hey, so just so that you're prepared,
I'm driving a van and I said, okay, that's great.
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Then we can go on road trips and I can
lie down.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's awesome, amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, And he resides in a mid to older generation,
so it seems maybe that I've talked myself out of
the idea that it's age related. I would ask a
question to the group of friends that prefer the watch
for value. Are they considered introverted or like to keep
to themselves or are they very like high self advocate,
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out there and extrinsic and exuberant and like to be
the spotlight in the room.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Interesting point, They are definitely out there. They they probably
prefer the spotlight more than they prefer not to be
in it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The watch is still their preference that undes some profiling
for me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
This is their suitor, So they still spend probably a
little too much on their own vehicle, but in terms
of their suitor, they don't care as much. Or I
guess they do, because when you think of being in
a spotlight outside of a car, for example, it's the
watch that you know, kind of shines, whether it be
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a restaurant or a social event. The car doesn't go
beyond the valet. So well, maybe oh interesting, okay, yeah, yeah,
they yeah, prefer the spotlight. They like the shine. I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There is one thing that's interesting about cars and watches
that I This notion might stick with you or not.
The choice of whether you pick whatever or watch you pick,
or whatever car you pick, says something about a person.
So I'll give an easy example for cars to start.
You pick a Ferrari, a roaring throws you off down
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the street and makes your heart skip a beat. Ferrari
versus an Aston Martin, What do you think that says
about a person in terms of what their personalities might
be like? And then think about it from a watch perspective.
If I chose eighteen carrot Daytona that's like multi colored,
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I don't know there is one out there. I can't
remember what it's called. Versus an ap What does that
say about a person?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You beat me to the punch. I was gonna ask
you this question. I think it's funny because with certain cars,
certain watches, especially at the upper echelon, like when we're
talking Ferraris and I think you're talking about I think
it's the rainbow Daytona with all the different colored diamonds. Yes,
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when you're getting up to there. We're talking about people
who both understand the market of cars or watches, and
they are in a certain lifestyle where they want the best.
I think I did an episode a little while ago
different brands will speak about the nature of a person.
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So a driven success oriented and this is just a generalization,
so driven, success oriented, goal oriented person. They might seek
a Ferrari, they might seek that rainbow Daytona just because
it's a it's a landmark, it's another goal, it's a
it's a statement of their success. Right Whereas and this
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can be true with an AP and an ascid Martin
just so I imagine they're the same thing, success oriented, goal focus,
but maybe not a connoisseur as let's say I watch
connoisseur or a car connoisseur, but definitely both speaks of
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a person that's success driven, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So let's take an example of a character from Billions.
If you've watched it's a hedge fund series, fantastic learning
about analysts and how they bind hedge opportunities to invest
in it's really good. And you have someone like Bobby Axelrod.
Now in this series, he wears an AP, but he
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does eventually end up driving a Ferrari. So what do
you make of that?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So when you say hedge fund, already, I'm thinking a
certain type of Wall Street characteristic that pops in my mind.
You know, a certain a brow, a certain brow that
pops to my mind, and I have to think that
they just want the high ticket price without even knowing
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its significance or value in its own niche So he
probably wanted to ask Martin, really, good car, great car,
has a lot of prestige, But probably someone said a
Frari's better, so he switched over to a Ferrari just
because it it might be better.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That brings me to a question. Do you think that
there is a difference between watch and or car preferences
based on whether you had generational wealth or you've built
your own wealth.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh, this is a good one, basically old money versus
new money. Right, Yes, again, I think a new money
person would be more in flying to oh, man, you're
gonna make me like you're putting Carol, You're gonna make
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me sound like a bad person, like I'm judging people.
But I imagine old money would be more interested in some
of the bigger brands, or I should say not the
bigger brands, brands that have been around longer, like the Pattec, Philips,
the JLC, just because their parents probably had that and
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just because their parents probably talk down other brands, whereas
the new money. I imagine they're getting their information within
their social group, probably also getting their information from influencers
on You Too and Hollywood, So they're probably looking at
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what's on people's wrists, like an ap AP's a big
one with hip hop, Rolex is a great one. I
imagine they're getting more of that. The new money is
geting more of their information that way.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think that's an interesting evaluation of old versus new
money and how their mental models are constructed based on
their source of information. Do you think that quality or
functionality ever come into the picture that could be used
as a distinguishing factor between the two, or do you
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think that those are part and person of all luxury
brands as an assumed right of passage, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Let's say rite a passage. Yeah, definitely, because if they
wanted accuracy, they'd get a G. Shock's fair. They want
to functionality, get a G shaw. Okay, let me ask
you this, just as a fun game. A Ferrari driver,
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what do you think he wears?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you mean like his watch?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What's his watch?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That rainbow prodox I was telling you about? Okay, probably
something like that where it's probably encrusted with diamonds or
customized you know what, our watch group, we have a
guy like that, don't we in our WhatsApp group chat.
He probably's got a couple of blinging items in there.
Let's see. Oh, as we speak, someone does a risk check.
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He probably has some ornate pieces. It doesn't really matter
so much what it is, it's the design of it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Maybe you've got a terbillion Trump Victory one which is
like this really blinged out? Was it one hundred thousand
dollars prices for only one hundred and forty seven supply
out there? Maybe it looks like that versus someone who
didn't drive a Ferrari. That's my assumption. The louder, the
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louder looking watches.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And what would someone who drives, let's say, a Prius
wear on the wrist.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, they're eco friendly. They chose a Prius either because
of price point and affordability and or the expertise of
toyotas in the electric car world. In that market, they're
probably more utilitarian. I don't know if I would say
g shock necessarily, but probably something like a citizen.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, like an eco drive sys and their solar.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Power right on, or it could be a TIMEX.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, is that a good thing? Or oh no, no,
I like time X. Now there's a place, time and
place for time X. Absolutely I have three, So.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
There you go. It's from functionality and sustainability standpoint. I
think it falls in line with choice of car as well.
That's why I picked the time X. They've got a
good legacy going as well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, and how about a Tesla. I'm my own opinions
of Tesla, But what would the Tesla have a driver
of a Tesla have on the wrists?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, So this one's interesting as well because it depends
on what country or continent you're driving the Tesla on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Interesting Okay, So I heard.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And this came from a local, So I don't think
I can get bashed for this. Tesla's are all over,
La all over. It's like the trending thing to do
is you have one next to certain other cosmetic surgery
tendencies that you have. So I think about a Tesla
driver as having something maybe mid tier, but even even
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like the new rich would probably drive a Tesla as
well or have one as a daycar. So I would
say an Apple Watch, I agree, or a Rolex GMT
at best interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yes, I agree. I know Tesla owners who are all
about They love the Elon musk, and they're like Apple people,
they love Steve Jobs. They're more in love with the
man behind the brand than the actual product. I see that.
I could see that love fest between Apple and Tesla.
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But there's so many Tesla owners right now that I
talk to have this air of arrogance. Not all of them,
but a lot of them. They're like, my Tesla, this
my Tesla, that I have a Tesla. I you know, well,
I call them cars, but you can call it Tesla whatever.
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But I could see them gravitating to a Rolelex because
Rolex is such a powerful, world recognized brand, a standard
of success. I could totally see them going for that.
When I say this, it's not a knock against Rolex,
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trust me, it's a knock against Tesla owners because I
love Rolex and Rolex are amazing watches. But people who
drive a Tesla and probably buy a Rolex are buying
it for just the symbol I that interesting Rolex or
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smart watch. That's yeah, you got your finger on the pulse, Carol.
There's a lot of the psychology you're talking about. This
gender psychology and gender profiling. There's a lot too to this.
I didn't know you were big. I didn't know you're
a student of that at all.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That was the love of my undergraduate life was taking
all these different psychology courses that focused on development, language forensics.
All of that comes together in adulthood in a way
I never thought I could apply. And it makes life
interesting when you get these inferences right, and it makes
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it exciting when you get new information that changes the
way you interpret certain driving factors and social effects, you know.
So that is my hobby, unfortunately to all, and it's
a free one because just takes my mind and my
eyeballs to make.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That connection, and that leads me to a next vehicle,
which you don't have to you can choose to skip.
So what does a mini van driver where I want
to pass? Or are you gonna give a biased point
of view? Or what's the psychology there? All?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right? Van drivers probably a person of family. You don't
need all those seven seats unless you have children and
pets and a house full of love. They are also
reliable and focused around comfort and is a journey vehicle,
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one that you would pick to take road trips, go
to campsites, all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It should market minivans. You should should be on the
frame journey love it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Did you watch the recent Marvel with Wolverine and Deadpoole
and they said the audissy fan was like barely a car.
I laughed, but I also cringed at the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's right, I forgot. Yeah, the minivan plays a crucial role,
you know, all that just decide.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't really know in terms of a watch pattern
that they might wear. I think they're also you know, functional, reliable, comfortable,
and timely. If you're someone who's running around between schedules
and you know, picking up your people for their extracurriculars,
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and you're also trying to track scheduled dates, and you're
probably going to get like an Apple watch or a
Garment or an Android watch because you've got all your
specs in one place, your calendar and the time and messaging.
If you're not into digital watches, I think they would
pick something robust but not necessarily luxury, but reliable, so
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a Cassio, maybe an Omega. They are a lady, I
think I don't really know if do a lot of
women wear watches. I'm thinking more from the men.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Women wear watches. Absolutely. I'm just trying to recall all
the people I saw in the last week in my head,
and women wear watches. A lot of them smart watches.
Oh my godness. The only two not wearing a smart
watch right now? Oh my god. They all have Rolexes.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's funny. That's a big extreme, like on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hey, I should be hanging out with more on them.
They got great taste. I think I think I just
saw roletts on your and right. No, yeah, they all
had Rolexes this week. Yeah, everyone that encountered was oh no,
sorry one tag Hoyer, Tag Hoyer. Yeah, but everyone else
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was a Rolex. So everyone had good taste. That was
a good company, now you You also brought up an
amazing article about going back full circle, going back to
the dash and having an analog clock on the dashboard
of a car. I loved how the high ends do
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have analog, some have both analog digital, and I love
that it brings back the history because a lot of
these car manufacturers were coach makers right for a horse
and buggy, and as they became motorized, they wanted not
only a timepiece, but a timer and at the time
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it was watch companies and coach makers, right, So I
love that in your article and in our conversation you
mentioned one particular brand, and I want you to talk
about a little bit about that because we did a
podcast a while back, Kevin and I where we talked
about different analog time pieces and cars. When I went back,
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we didn't talk about your brand. Your brand is like
wildly popular, wildly sought after. Well, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
If you never if you didn't tell me that analogs
are only associated with high end cars, I would have
not known that association and appreciated the history that reminder
of them being coach manufacturers, because then it kind of
brings in this idea of you've got coach makers that
make luxury cars with analog watch clocks because of the
(25:53):
timepiece and timekeeping capabilities and the austerity of it all.
Then I think about equestrians and the coach and the
so it all just kind of comes together in this
Like what comes up for me is this beautiful English
backcountry with all those things lined up in front of
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a castle or something. Me too that I always said
that if I was to ever get a wedding I
wanted to be in a coaching carriage and go down
my street. That was my only request. So it's just
funny how that reminded me of that memory. But going
back to your question, I guess I'll start with the
origin story how it even came upon it in the
first place. I was sitting in a car of my
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one of my bosses when I was working in Asia,
and he was like, check this out. I bought this
new Mercedes Benz station wagon. I'm like, I don't even
know Mercedes Benz has had station wagons. And so I'm
sitting there and I'm like, where's your clock and he's like,
it's right there. I said, that is a watch. That
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is the clock, and like does it even work or
is that just like an orning piece? And he's like, no,
no that. He's like, all Mercedes have analog clocks. I'm like,
why are they for old people? And he said I
don't know, and I'm like what. And this was me
and at my best obviously, right, I was very young,
and I didn't understand. It was just it was such
a nuanced look of a car dashboard. I never expected
(27:24):
it to literally be like a ticking clock. Then I
realized when I sent you that article, a lot of
Mercedes benz Is still kind of kept that as a
symbol of a status and of the luxury brand that
they are. And I said, oh, and even reading in
Quora forms and Reddit forms that people are devastated that
they're actually switching over to digital. And so I looked
(27:48):
into that and realized that the Porsche also has an
analog and has that time that stopwatch capability you spoke of,
and the Range Rover, Land Rover Defender series, and I thought, oh,
my gosh, it's a status symbol. I didn't even realize.
And here I am laughing at the fact that they
(28:10):
were analog watch or something as intemporary as events.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I wonder what your boss was thinking at the time.
But Mercedes was classic. Well, yeah, a lot of them
didn't have an analog. I know the S class had
IWC do their dashboards.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That is so okay. That changes it only because now
I know what that is. It was so weird. I
was just talking to my sister two weeks ago about saying,
should I get a Portuguese. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They're great price points, I love the classic design, great
history behind it too.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I also think about sound systems in some of these
luxury vehicles as well that go with like the Seinheisers
or the bow, there's the anchor and you know, so
it's kind of all kind of coming together, these extra
finishing touches that really amp up with the social class
of the vehicle. So then you know, rounding back to
(29:13):
your first question, what has higher value a car or
a watch? I'm like, can't you have.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It in both? You're absolutely right, you can have both
high luxury car and high luxury watch without the concern
one day, you know, maybe I should drive a minivan well,
comfort and practicality.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Compare that to if you're driving a fun jeep or
an suv, right, Like, it's a different kind of ride,
it's a different kind of maneuverability. So you certainly can't
take your suv driving skills to a van. You might
skid out. So just a defense.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Again, when they win the lotto, price and maintenance and
the time to do both like shop and maintain these
find automobiles and fine watches, then I would buy.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, there's a debate about the buying and the leasing too.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh right, right, yeah, maintenance.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Packages, I think you're good with if you win the
lottery cry cuts for all that was. I think that's
a beautiful gift.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I gotta check my numbers now, I know you only
have ten minutes. Laugh. Is there anything else you want
to add in terms of cars and watches?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I do you mentioned the Detroit and Toronto Auto Show.
Curious to know when you go there, will you bring
up any of these watch topics that we discussed today
to them.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So in the past with the Toronto Auto Show, we
talked to a few of the influencers about their cars.
Trying to think, Oh, I forgot the name of their channel,
but Jacob and Uri their Toronto YouTuber great show. Was
it straight Pipes or loud Pipes or something like that.
(31:05):
And then there's a husband wife team from BC. We
talk to them and they were watch collectors as well.
I've seen their channel a few times on YouTube. If
you are an avid YouTube automobile person, they're always the
one that says hit us for a subscribe. We would
all often bring up watches with them and they would
(31:26):
just go on about whatever piece they're wearing, which is
fun because you can see, like the light the excitement
they have for cars. Is still there for watches. It's great.
So when we go to Detroit, and hopefully you'll be
coming to Detroit maybe in the minivan, we'll see if
(31:47):
what happens down there, if we're going to run into
the same influencers, or I would love to talk to
some of them manufacturers, because in the Toronto Auto Show,
when you have a press pass, you're just lost in
the sea of press. So all the CEOs they're talking
to the old school news press. They're still talking to
(32:07):
Toronto's star Sunday Sun. But it's the influencers that kind
of talk to each other. So it'd be interesting to
see what happens with Detroit. Wow, I'm still waiting for
our press past. So Detroit, if you're listening to this episode,
hopefully this is the Carol, this is the David. There's
a Kevin. He's not here, he's behind the scenes. I
(32:28):
promise you that on the email.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, thank you. That is a generous offering that you're
looking to have that as an invitation extended to me.
I've not been to an auto show before, let alone
out of country.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, I can't talk about Detroit. The last time I
was there was a pre pandemic. But Toronto Auto Show,
I think they have an amazing press day that I
think you'll appreciate because it's not just about automobiles, but
it's also to promote the Canadian International Auto Show. More importantly,
(33:09):
it's an event that they try to make very friendly
for everyone, and also there's space given for you to
meet other influencers. Whether it's intentional or not, it happens
and there's a lot of sharing and collaboration, and of
course there are activities also again to promote not necessarily
(33:31):
a brand, but the Canadian International Auto Show as a
family event or an event to do while in Toronto.
Even though you're not an automobile enthusiast, you come down
there and you're afraid that you might be bored, you
won't be because it's about the show and what it
has to offer.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That is so beautiful. The way that you've described this
painting of family and collaboration and support between neighbors, I
think that is that's a different message altogether. It wasn't
expecting all of that coming from an event like that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
No one does, and that's what makes it really special
for people listening. I didn't mute that you might have
heard him hacking in the background. That's my dog. Oh
he fell asleep again and just woke up, and oh
that's the first thing he does, is hacked. Oh sorry,
old guy, poor guy. As always what happens, We always
(34:32):
fall off topic and take these sidebars. But I really
find that profiling that you're talking about very interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It can be my detriment too when I get it wrong.
It's a time saver in some senses as well. I'm
sure you have as a coach as well. His idea
of they don't serve me, then I'm not going to
invest more time and energy in it. So it just
helps me create my own bubble of self care that
(35:01):
I don't end up over extending myself to everybody. So
that's why I've kind of used it, is to help myself.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Good life hack, because time is precious, right, you don't
want to waste time on the wrong people. You know,
you know what that is a little judge. Actually, oh man,
this is horrible. I'm going to come off as a
horrible person, or you could be.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Saying the thing that everybody else is afraid to say.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I saw something where I don't know if I forwarded
it to you, but mind of to your spa sense.
Cano Reeves was saying, there's what seven billion people in
this world, and when one person's being mean to you,
they're doing you a favor because then you know not
(35:54):
to waste your time on them.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That's a gift. Actually, they just help to weed themselves up.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, can take that filtered themselves out. So maybe judgment
is what we need, I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
In the animal world survivalship. I think it makes a
lot of sense. And humans don't have that exception in
our spheres and environment as well.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Animals don't they judge as well.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Five, But we take it into our social environment for protection,
I guess, and maintaining a safety from the people that
might be too far off the beaten path from what
you're comfortable with. And it's the fear of the unknown,
right just totally out of your any past experience. Probably
(36:40):
better to stay away or you're curious and then you
you lean into that. So I think it probably comes
from a more primordial instinct of us as to why
humans can be judgmental. I'm excusing myself from it. If
anybody's read between them lives there.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's not our personality that's being judging. It's our evolution. Yeah,
I guess looking at the animal worlds cats they're a judging.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I agree with you. I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
We will definitely have to talk more about cars and
watches because you know, I'm going to try to get
Kevin involved, because if it's just the two of us,
we're just man all over the place. I have to
get Kevin and then do the three of us. And
he's such a person. Yeah, he's a He's a great
guy to have to keep focused and on track. Okay,
(37:40):
what's accountable?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Okay, someone gets to have an accountability partner.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I know he wanted to do one with you earlier,
but his timing is just you know, when when we
all meet person one day, we could talk about what's
been happening in their lives, and he just hasn't had
the time to participate as much.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You're his accountability partner for that.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But Carol, thanks, I know you have to go as always.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, Lo, it's a pleasure to talk about that. I've
not considered cars and watches in tandem before, but it does.
It does make sense. And now we're going to add
equestrians and the whole writing culture to this.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Possibly, Yeah, you know these equestrian events, if I'm not mistaken,
they do have time pieces, and I think it's sponsored
by Rolex right these events, I'm not too sure. I'm
trying to think.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I know Citizen and Lon Jeans.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Does for the past Olympics. Omega did some for the
equestrian events, but not the standalone events. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Rolex is mostly tennis. I've seen. There must be something
there because you see lot of watch ads for equestrian
like that sort of theme in that backdrop.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Maybe my god. Yeah, the JLC reversal was made for polo.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Oh my goodness. Oh I didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I think they slipped over so it doesn't get damaged
during polo play.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I did not know. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
See we have to do this now.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
No, I have to get the reverso when.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You play polo. See, oh my god, you've been wearing
the wrong watch when you play polo.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I need to learn how to ride too, play with
the one life clothes right there?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, potential topics in the future when we talk about
horses and watches, we can talk about psychology and profiling.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh I would love that. I love that. On for
car choices as well. I've had some many a good
banter about people's choices and cars and maybe what that
might infer about preferences and lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
There's so much more we could talk about cars and
watches and in the relationship with engineering and mechanical and
gears and all that, and more topics for us to
talk about here. Again, thank you for your time. We'll
see you real soon, okay, Carol.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thank you David. It was always fun. As you know,
you always bring some riveting topics and I never know
if I'll be able to answer them impromptu, but it's
always been a pleasurable conversation experience.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You always take it to a level that I do
not expect, and that's probably why we fall off track.
But thanks Carol.
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